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2:42

Welcome back

2:44

to the

2:46

Honeydew y'all! We're over

2:48

here doing it in the Night

2:50

Pan Studios. I'm Ryan Sickler. Want

2:52

to start this episode like I

2:55

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2:57

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2:59

that I do. It is well appreciated.

3:01

Check out the Patreon. Get over there.

3:04

The shows are wild and that's the

3:06

biz man. We're just going to get

3:08

right into it. You know what we

3:10

do here, we highlight the low lights

3:13

and always say that these are the

3:15

stories behind the storytellers. And I am

3:17

very excited to have this guest here

3:19

with us today. Ladies and gentlemen, first

3:22

time on the honeydew. Joey McIntyre, welcome

3:24

to the honeydew, Joey McIntyre. Our clap

3:26

for me. Give it for yourself, bro.

3:29

Give it up for yourself. Is a

3:31

pleasure to have you here. Jimmy Hendricks

3:33

looking on, making sure everything, scope aesthetic.

3:35

He had it made for me as

3:38

a surprise and I'm a Hendrix

3:40

super freak and usually when I

3:42

see something I'm like, that's really

3:45

good. But it's just slightly off

3:47

the teeth or whatever. This fucking

3:49

thing? It's flawless. It's beautiful. Yes.

3:51

Han Solo and Carbonite right there

3:53

is what that is. Right. Now do

3:56

you have to be a guitar player

3:58

to like adore Jimi Hendrix? No. I'm

4:00

not a guitar player at all.

4:02

But he's your guy. The, just

4:04

coming out on stage at Monterey

4:07

and just literally three guys, wasn't

4:09

even a, there's no, no, seven,

4:11

eight, nothing. Three fucking dudes, he's

4:13

playing lead and rhythm. Yeah. And

4:15

everyone was like, who the fuck

4:18

is this guy? And Paul McCartney

4:20

brought him over. And was like,

4:22

this the guy that's been kicking

4:24

ass in England the whole time,

4:27

scared hair, clapped, and here in

4:29

those stories. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

4:31

And then they were like, and

4:33

then off he goes. I love

4:35

those back stories that, you know,

4:38

we only get now, you know,

4:40

from, you know, you get all

4:42

that content. But like, the fact

4:44

that it took that long to

4:47

figure out all those back stories

4:49

of. different bands and who toured

4:51

with what and the Beatles with

4:53

this one and that one and

4:55

that whole connection is is very

4:58

cool my my buddy of mine

5:00

he mixed all the new kids

5:02

hit records his name's Phil Green

5:04

character character but could play like

5:07

crazy and He always told the

5:09

story about something like you but

5:11

like he did something like He

5:13

just walked on stage and he

5:15

would light a joint. You know

5:18

what I mean? And then like

5:20

before you knew it he'd You

5:22

know spin around jump up in

5:24

the air and then a split

5:27

and gang gang. You know what

5:29

I mean? Like with a freaking

5:31

straight in his hand. So Yeah,

5:33

he's he's a good one. He's

5:35

legend. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just

5:38

feel like I want you to

5:40

plug things real quick. I'll say

5:42

there are certain people when you

5:44

look at them You're like, oh,

5:47

that person came here to do.

5:49

exactly what they were supposed to

5:51

do. Right. Then I think that's

5:53

one of those guys. Oh yeah.

5:56

No doubt. Oh yeah. No that's

5:58

a good. And you think about

6:00

fame like you were famous before

6:02

the internet. Yeah. Think about. that

6:04

today like how big you had

6:07

to be back then for the

6:09

world to be like you got

6:11

to hear this guy you got

6:13

to listen to this band you

6:16

got to see this comedian and

6:18

selling out arenas and shit back

6:20

then before before you could just

6:22

click a link and see it

6:24

everywhere in 10 seconds like That

6:27

blows my mind. The level of

6:29

faines, the way it used to

6:31

take place. Well, I mean, and

6:33

people debate this a lot. It's

6:36

like, was it easy without the

6:38

internet or with the internet or

6:40

is it blah blah? And it's

6:42

a fun conversation, right? Because it

6:44

makes it a good debate. To

6:47

me though, like one argument is.

6:49

Yes, but back then there were

6:51

gatekeepers, right? Very, you know what

6:53

I'm saying? There was a wall

6:56

that we, there was a gatekeeper,

6:58

you know, as a performer, as

7:00

a guy, you know what I

7:02

mean? Yeah, trying to make things

7:04

happen, it was, I gotta get

7:07

to this guy so he can

7:09

get me to this, you know,

7:11

instead of going right through the

7:13

world of everybody. Right, yeah, so

7:16

it's that. It's a good point.

7:18

You know, there's pros and cons,

7:20

right? Because sometimes it seems like

7:22

it was easier back in the

7:24

day if you could just get

7:27

to the back door and go,

7:29

just give me a shot. You

7:31

know what I mean? Hear me

7:33

out. And then one step at

7:36

a time. Now it's like, everybody's

7:38

got a shot. Yeah. Everyone does

7:40

have a shot. They really do.

7:42

Yeah, it's like it's like the

7:44

walking dead. You don't even rent

7:47

or at the back door. You

7:49

know, you're like what though, you

7:51

know, so real quick. Promote. Please

7:53

promote. You're about to go on

7:56

tour. Yes, do it. So well,

7:58

this week I kick off my

8:00

solo tour, which is starts in

8:02

Houston. I actually developed as one

8:04

of my pitches. I had fun

8:07

with it, but that I made

8:09

a little wrap for the date,

8:11

so I'll do it really quick.

8:13

Houston, Dallas, and Old St. Louis,

8:16

Chicago, Detroit, Toronto, too. Cleveland, Twovills,

8:18

Lewin, Nash. Birmingham, let's kick some

8:20

ash. Gainesville, Savannah, Raleigh, D.C., Philly,

8:22

Boston, and NYC. Freedom Tour, phase

8:24

one is here. Bucklep, baby, see

8:27

you there. So, that's, those are

8:29

the dates, but it starts April

8:31

4th, and... It's to, you know,

8:33

really just tee up my new

8:36

solo album, Freedom, and which I'm

8:38

very happy about, 10 songs. And

8:40

I wanted to get very specific

8:42

about how this tour is and

8:44

how I portrayed, if you will,

8:47

or presented this album. I like

8:49

to perform no matter what. I

8:51

guess I, in some ways, I

8:53

proud myself that, pride myself that.

8:56

I can get up and sing

8:58

a song anywhere. I don't have

9:00

to be too precious about it.

9:02

I've toured my solo stuff. You

9:04

know, the cabaret vibe is great

9:07

for me. Sit down, have a

9:09

cocktail, have something to eat, let

9:11

me entertain you. I like that,

9:13

and I'm lucky enough that I

9:15

can do that as a solo

9:17

artist, but this is a little

9:19

bit more, there's more of a

9:21

vision around it, so. I'm excited.

9:23

I'm really excited to do that.

9:25

Can I ask you this? When

9:27

it comes to the solo project,

9:29

things like that, do you write

9:31

your own songs? Do you write

9:33

some? Collaborate? Like what's the process?

9:35

Out of the 10 songs, me

9:38

and my collaborator, Sean, we co-wrote

9:40

eight of them and then the

9:42

other two I wrote by myself.

9:44

And Sean, this guy, Sean Thomas,

9:46

produced the record. He's 24

9:48

years old, he's from Vancouver, he's

9:50

phenomenal. You know, like, yeah, he's

9:52

in the room and I'm like,

9:55

what's he getting out of me?

9:57

24! How are you when he

9:59

started? And when he was born?

10:01

Yeah, yeah, exactly. So apparently we

10:03

do have a good time. He's

10:05

wise beyond his years and then,

10:08

you know, I like to think

10:10

combined with just like this, you

10:12

know, 37 year old dude. But

10:14

good for you for recognizing that

10:16

young can be great as well

10:18

and not just as green, you

10:21

gotta earn. Yeah, it's, it's, yes,

10:23

I've always written songs, especially for

10:25

my music. This album. Well, I

10:27

think we we like to think

10:29

that everything we do is better

10:32

and more evolved and you know

10:34

Show's growth and and I just

10:36

I hadn't done a full-length solo

10:38

album in 15 years I've written

10:40

a lot of one-offs I've written

10:42

for the new kids and That's

10:45

been great, but to do a

10:47

full You know a full album

10:49

is a commitment you really got

10:51

to go for it. And I

10:53

had the gusto and hung in

10:55

there and was inspired by all

10:58

kinds of things in my life

11:00

to stay the course and get

11:02

it done. So it's nice to

11:04

be happy with the project, you

11:06

know, because you can also be

11:09

like, oh, it's done, but damn,

11:11

I wish I could have done

11:13

this or done that. And I

11:15

don't have those, I'm not up

11:17

at night going, oh, I wish

11:19

I could have. So I'm very

11:22

happy with the. the finished product

11:24

and now it's just you know

11:26

supporting it without you know you

11:28

know you got a hustle you

11:30

know you know the hustle it's

11:32

a hustle you know what I'm

11:35

sitting here thinking too respectfully you've

11:37

been in this business a long

11:39

fucking time yeah how how are

11:41

you when you actually started I

11:43

mean I started when you start

11:45

I don't mean fame or popularity

11:48

when you started grind well I'm

11:50

a theater kid so I grew

11:52

up in community theater when I

11:54

was like six years old I

11:56

just love to do it was

11:59

fun No strings attached. You had

12:01

a blast. Of course, you learned

12:03

a lot and you wanted to

12:05

again get better, but it It

12:07

was just for fun. New kids

12:09

came and knocked when I was

12:12

12. And you're 52? I'm 52.

12:14

You've been in this business for

12:16

40 months. Well, I've known those

12:18

guys for 40 years. That's insane.

12:20

Yeah. And what I want to

12:22

get at is like, you're still

12:25

finding a passion for this that's

12:27

different. You know, you started in

12:29

a band, a group. And then

12:31

so one. Still. doing very well

12:33

with them. But I mean, you're

12:36

also able to offshoot independently and

12:38

you're still relevant, still finding it

12:40

enjoyable, still also hustling like a

12:42

motherfucker, not sitting on your ass

12:44

or thinking everybody's just gonna do

12:46

it because you said it earlier.

12:49

There's so much out there to

12:51

watch today, so much to see

12:53

and do. You're not gonna catch

12:55

it all. Yeah. and the fact

12:57

that you still after 40 years

12:59

you love I can tell you

13:02

love it I can really tell

13:04

you love it well here to

13:06

do what you were supposed to

13:08

do yeah I mean exactly what

13:10

you were supposed to do yeah

13:12

I think as I've been saying

13:15

the last couple of years turns

13:17

out I bring a lot to

13:19

the table you know what I

13:21

mean so and that's you know

13:23

I get to do other things

13:26

and you know movies or theater

13:28

or different projects, you know what

13:30

I mean? And, you know, it's

13:32

a catch-22, it's like, you can't,

13:34

you can't just suddenly have experience,

13:36

you gotta live it, you know,

13:39

it's like, you know, God willing,

13:41

as we get older, we learn,

13:43

there are tough times, but maybe

13:45

we can see the forest for

13:47

the trees a little bit more,

13:49

you know. But it's not always

13:52

like that, you know what I

13:54

mean? And that probably brings us

13:56

to, you know, your question of,

13:58

you know, the low lights. Funny

14:00

enough. Because when I was like,

14:02

when I was coming here, I

14:05

was like, oh yeah, that'd be

14:07

cool. But I'm like, what? Because

14:09

we all have them, you know.

14:11

specifically, but funny enough, you know,

14:13

as the universe would have it,

14:16

at the end of this road,

14:18

you know those two towers, the

14:20

two buildings, they're identical. For those

14:22

of you at home, we're in

14:24

Los Angeles, which your folks probably

14:26

know, but off of Santa Monica,

14:29

there's two big buildings there. I'll

14:31

always remember those two big buildings

14:33

because there was a there was

14:35

a casting director in there. There

14:37

might be a million of them,

14:39

but there was one. So, you

14:42

know, yes, I've been doing this,

14:44

you know, for a long time.

14:46

There's been down times, there's been

14:48

fricking biggest pop in in the

14:50

world, there's been, you're nobody, there's

14:53

been everything in between, you know

14:55

what I mean? I

14:57

was, sometimes I would feel like

14:59

I spread myself too thin, you

15:02

know what I mean? Because I

15:04

did love to act, I did

15:06

love to do a theater, I

15:08

did love music, so, but sometimes

15:11

I'm like, well, maybe you should

15:13

just focus on one thing. And

15:15

so, that could be true. Sometimes

15:18

I felt diluted, sometimes, you know,

15:20

energy is energy, right? So it's

15:22

gonna suffer. It's like, it's math.

15:24

You can only do so many

15:27

projects. before you start getting, you

15:29

know, maxed out and the work

15:31

is being compromised, right? So that

15:34

happened to me over the years.

15:36

And I would come out to

15:38

LA and I had a manager

15:41

and I had an agent and

15:43

all that jazz. And I would

15:45

get different gigs. I forget this

15:47

is before. I think this is

15:50

before. I think this is. I'm

15:52

gonna figure it out. It might

15:54

have been... The the life-changing gig

15:57

is when I came out here

15:59

and I got on Boston Public

16:01

which is a David E. Kelly

16:03

show and he was huge producer

16:06

and still is but now that's

16:08

wild to hear you say life-changing

16:10

because I would for sure would

16:13

have thought New kids would have

16:15

been the first life- Well I

16:17

meant acting wise okay that was

16:20

a big so well I had

16:22

a couple before then but but

16:24

life-changing in the sense I came

16:26

to LA and I met my

16:29

wife and a year later we

16:31

were married. So life changing in

16:33

that sense. Got you. So anyways,

16:36

let's just say it was a

16:38

it was a funky time. It

16:40

was a low time to. And

16:42

my manager's like, I'm like, I

16:45

don't know about this audition, right?

16:47

It was for a, um, Ed

16:49

Burns pilot. I think it was

16:52

made, it was called the Fight

16:54

and Fitz Gerald. So this is,

16:56

Ed Burns was doing his thing,

16:59

kind of in, you know, saving

17:01

prior to Ryan before that. I

17:03

mean, that wasn't, he didn't write

17:05

that, but you know, he was

17:08

doing his thing. And I was

17:10

like, yeah, it seemed like on

17:12

paper a good fit, you know,

17:15

Irish kid, it was probably New

17:17

Yorkers, you know what I mean?

17:19

I'm from Boston, the whole thing.

17:21

Manages, just go to the, go

17:24

to the, go to the, see

17:26

the casting agent, you know, you

17:28

know. And go from there. She'll

17:31

see us. So I went up

17:33

to her office and it wasn't

17:35

like, it was like this, but

17:38

it wasn't even filmed. I just

17:40

read with her, right? Okay. And

17:42

but I have my tail between

17:44

my legs. You know, it was

17:47

one of those. You know, you

17:49

just want to, you just want

17:51

to stand at the covers that

17:54

day. You know what I'm saying?

17:56

I finished and she said. It's

17:58

so funny, she said, um, well,

18:00

you know. You don't suck. And

18:03

I was like, wow, okay. Well,

18:05

you don't suck. Does that, does

18:07

that, does that just say it

18:10

all? Okay? Does that say it

18:12

all? Does that say it all?

18:14

Is that a honeydew moment or

18:17

what? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You don't

18:19

suck. And I was like, wow.

18:21

Okay. And I'm just in a

18:23

fog, I'm like wong, you know

18:26

what I mean? We'll come back,

18:28

come back in a couple of

18:30

hours and you'll read for Ed

18:33

and the producers and the thing.

18:35

I remember too, I remember, it's

18:37

gotta be right there, there's a

18:39

donut shop down there, I don't

18:42

know if there is. Throw in

18:44

a donut. Okay in the afternoon,

18:46

you know throw in a donut

18:49

in between what can make it

18:51

worse? You know what I'm saying?

18:53

There's there's like let's throw in

18:56

a Dona, you know to make

18:58

you feel you're hanging out in

19:00

the area for the two hours.

19:02

Yeah, killing time and area. You

19:05

know, totally. And there's there's no

19:07

tick talk or it's a grand

19:09

thing. You just you barely get.

19:12

text to check, you know what

19:14

I mean? You're calling your buddy

19:16

back home saying what's going on,

19:18

you know? And, you know, two

19:21

hours, you know, comes and goes

19:23

and I go up there. And,

19:25

you know, again, it's simple math.

19:28

It's like, did I really do

19:30

the work on the scene? Did

19:32

I have a partner to do

19:35

it? Did I have the infrastructure

19:37

at the time to take care

19:39

of myself? And the answer is

19:41

no. and golly. You know how

19:44

you just kind of black out?

19:46

You know, I've had auditions on

19:48

Broadway. The funny, I mean, maybe.

19:51

This is how I look at

19:53

it. It's like all the stuff

19:55

I got in my life, you

19:57

know, the three Broadway shows, the

20:00

David Kelly, the movies, all those

20:02

auditions, I was so like in

20:04

the zone, so present, so in

20:07

my own body, that it was

20:09

a no-brainer, right? And everything else,

20:11

not that I, you know, didn't

20:14

always shit the bed, but like

20:16

that feeling of you literally want

20:18

to jump out the window. You

20:20

want to be anywhere but where

20:23

you are. This is what I

20:25

want to ask you. What is

20:27

it, tell me for you, what

20:30

it feels like to go from

20:32

being confident as hell, being a

20:34

new kid and in this genre

20:37

of dance and music and being

20:39

like, fuck yeah, to then switching

20:41

gears and going completely vulnerable to

20:43

something else where you're not confident

20:46

in yourself. You know, does that

20:48

fuck with you? Well, to me,

20:50

it's the prep. I mean, to

20:53

answer that, you know, you know,

20:55

I'm a performing artist so I

20:57

see it as the same thing

20:59

you know what I mean it's

21:02

it's about communicating and if you

21:04

don't know what you're talking about

21:06

it's going to show or if

21:09

you haven't done the work I

21:11

mean it's as simple as that

21:13

and we all like to think

21:16

oh let's go in there we'll

21:18

wing it maybe the like I

21:20

don't know it's a cold read

21:22

it was amazing like I don't

21:25

know that doesn't that didn't happen

21:27

for me very often if ever

21:29

I need to do the work

21:32

so Yeah, that can be part

21:34

of the avalanche of making it

21:36

a darker time when you're like,

21:38

man, I was the guy or

21:41

I was, I was the man

21:43

and now, you know, man, I'm

21:45

good at this. Yeah. And I

21:48

need to work at this. Yeah,

21:50

I think, you know, I think

21:52

I'm good. You know, I think

21:55

I'm good. You know, over the

21:57

years and especially now, I have.

21:59

A lot of confidence. in myself

22:01

as an actor. So that was

22:04

sort of somewhere there, but I

22:06

had to do the work and

22:08

I didn't do the work. And

22:11

just to finish, there was one

22:13

other quote. It's like bookended. It's

22:15

like, you don't suck, donut. Then

22:17

I go in to Ed Burns.

22:20

And I couldn't tell you how

22:22

the scene went. We all knew

22:24

it was bad. We're all just

22:27

whatever. And I said, see you

22:29

later in Ed Burns. He said

22:31

he was sweet because he was

22:34

like very nice. He kind of

22:36

knew I was having a moment

22:38

and He said be good There's

22:40

that East Coast be good thing.

22:43

You know what I mean? He

22:45

had that he has that high

22:47

kind of high pit Be good.

22:50

I always remember that so You

22:52

know Can you avoid those

22:54

moments? I don't know. You know what

22:56

I mean? Everybody. Everybody. Not if you're

22:59

putting yourself out there. Right. If you're

23:01

going to be invulnerable, that's it. Right.

23:03

And the older I get, I try

23:05

to do, this is so stupid. So

23:08

I don't dance. I am not a

23:10

dance. I'm good in the car. I'm

23:12

good waist up. When I have to

23:15

get my legs involved, it's not a

23:17

good situation. Yeah. And my daughter's doing

23:19

cheer. right she's 10 now and at

23:21

the event they were like hey parents

23:24

if you come down and dance well

23:26

the cheerleaders will show you like a

23:28

quick routine outside it'll give more spirit

23:31

points for your kids and I was

23:33

like you know what oh I'm gonna

23:35

go fucking do it and help your

23:37

team out yeah this is something I

23:40

would never do right and I got

23:42

to get up in front of people

23:44

and do this but it's you know

23:46

mom's dad's men women I can hide

23:49

in the back it'll be probably a

23:51

bunch of people yeah it's in a

23:53

fucking middle school gym that's way bigger

23:56

in the middle school I went to

23:58

it's like 500 fucking people yeah we

24:00

go outside and they go okay ladies

24:02

over here guys over there I go

24:05

oh no no no no hold up

24:07

it's like fifth 60 women, it's like

24:09

four dudes. Yeah. And I'm like, no,

24:11

no, I thought we were all and

24:14

they're like, no, it's gonna be a

24:16

guys and a girls. I'm like, God.

24:18

So he teaches this young high school

24:21

girl. Oh, and they're teaching you stuff.

24:23

And she puts this music on and

24:25

she goes, do you guys know what

24:27

this is? I'm like, yeah, it's it's

24:30

tricky by run DMC. She had no

24:32

idea who that was. She just knew

24:34

the song. Oh, that's funny. So it's

24:36

her and his boy and they're like,

24:39

we're gonna just teach us simple routines.

24:41

Yeah. Do a whole routine, we gotta

24:43

do it. And we're like, no, that's

24:46

just the first round. And there's this

24:48

young black kid next to me, and

24:50

he goes, I'm not gonna lie, dude.

24:52

I'm struggling with these steps right now.

24:55

And I said, I'm not gonna lie.

24:57

You saying that right now gives me

24:59

the confidence I need to get through

25:02

this shit. So he's messing up. We're

25:04

all messing up. So then we go

25:06

in. And then you wait 20 minutes.

25:08

And I'm like, wait, we gotta wait.

25:11

Like I'm gonna forget this shit. She's

25:13

like, don't worry, we'll be out there

25:15

with you. The ladies all go. It's

25:17

like a hundred of them now at

25:20

this point. They get done. The guys

25:22

come out. Maybe there's 10 of us

25:24

at this point. Oh, front of this

25:27

500 seat gymnasium. I'm like, oh my

25:29

God. Diarrita diarrharrharr. Oh my God. And

25:31

then the lady goes real quick. We're

25:33

gonna do our routine. We're gonna do

25:36

our routine and then after the routine.

25:38

the freestyle begins and just so you

25:40

know that's the most important I was

25:42

like I'm not fucking freestyle out here.

25:45

So we start doing the routine and

25:47

and I'm you know I'm fine following

25:49

somebody up there yeah a little bit

25:52

and then fucking Young kid over here

25:54

with the I-K, I don't know the

25:56

steps. Maybe he wasn't good at five

25:58

steps. This motherfucker starts back flipping and

26:01

shit. I'm like, you son of a

26:03

bitch dude, you don't know this part.

26:05

Yeah. Dude, another guy's doing the worm

26:07

and shit, so Kendrick Lamar has created

26:10

a two-step that even white guys can

26:12

do. Okay. And I just two-step my

26:14

ass, like Kendrick Lamar, right off that

26:17

mother- she thinks she is damn. dance.

26:19

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm not.

26:21

Yeah, okay. This lady taps to my

26:23

back and goes, this is for you

26:26

and it's this trophy. I go, oh,

26:28

is that for my daughter? She goes,

26:30

no, that's for you. I go for

26:33

what? She goes for outstanding performance. Go

26:35

for you. Oh my god. And I

26:37

go back into the stands and like,

26:39

look at this y'all. They're like, that's

26:42

stellus. I'm like, that's my god. And

26:44

so I told my daughter, look at

26:46

that, I got out of my comfort

26:48

zone, we're both going home with awards.

26:51

Sometimes you just gotta do it. Sometimes

26:53

you gotta step up and do it,

26:55

dude. I wouldn't, and I'm done. I'm

26:58

going out on a high. And you

27:00

had no idea what you were getting

27:02

into, what you were getting into. Nothing.

27:04

Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. But that's

27:07

what you were getting what you were

27:09

getting, nothing. Nothing. But that's what you

27:11

were getting, nothing. Nothing. But that's what

27:13

you were getting, nothing. But that's what

27:16

you were getting, nothing. Nothing. But that's

27:18

what you were getting, nothing. Nothing. But

27:20

that's what you were getting, nothing. The

27:23

only way to learn is to suck.

27:25

You got to fail. You got to

27:27

fail. Stand up is not comfortable. Yes,

27:29

uncomfortable. Sure. For sure. So can we

27:32

go back to the beginning of your

27:34

story? Because you said 12 is when

27:36

they came calling. 12. Now were they

27:38

auditioning for this or you know, how

27:41

did that work? The new kids, sort

27:43

of. It was the way the new

27:45

kids came together was very unceremonious. It

27:48

was. Not a cattle call by any

27:50

means. I think a total of the

27:52

whole thing maybe eight kids auditioned Wow,

27:54

yeah, it was what happened was? There's

27:57

Mori Starr is this larger than life

27:59

character and He had produced new editions

28:01

first album candy girl. Yes, it's the

28:04

end the whole thing. So they're from

28:06

Boston. They were like our heroes before

28:08

we were even a group individually, we're

28:10

like, oh my God. They went their

28:13

separate ways and Maurice was like, I'm

28:15

gonna do this again, but I'm gonna

28:17

find some white boys. Okay, so they

28:19

go do Belbiv Devoe and Bobby Brown

28:22

goes off on his own and Ralph

28:24

Tredzvant and all that goes off on

28:26

their own. No, that's before. No, no,

28:29

no, no, this is years before that.

28:31

I'm saying. they were new edition. Oh

28:33

yeah. Yeah, those guys. Yeah, yeah. And

28:35

then they broke up and then they

28:38

all went and did their own project.

28:40

Exactly. And they're back together again. So

28:42

can I ask you this because I

28:44

know people like to say the Beatles

28:47

or the first Boy Band sort of

28:49

put together. Who would you say is

28:51

the next one? Because I was thinking

28:54

it was new edition. Yeah, well, I

28:56

mean... Is there a 70s? I think

28:58

the Beatles are, yeah, I get it.

29:00

That's normally they're not involved, but you

29:03

know. So who do you think's the

29:05

first? Well, the line though, yes, they

29:07

are in the lineage. I mean, they're

29:09

in that inspirational, you know, inspiration board

29:12

for sure. But you know, before the

29:14

new kids was no addition. Before New

29:16

Edition was the Jackson 5. Oh, duh,

29:19

Jackson 5. Yeah, I forget. Of course,

29:21

of course. So when the Osmans were

29:23

to really just apron, no, a, uh,

29:25

Jackson 5, I'd like to think we're

29:28

a little bit cooler. As far as

29:30

us, you know, stealing from New Edition.

29:32

But, but I love the Osmans too

29:35

for what they brought too, you know

29:37

what I mean? And they were very,

29:39

they were genuine, you know what I'm

29:41

saying. There's, there's got to be an

29:44

organic, to a boy band. And then,

29:46

you know, of course, the Jacksons learned

29:48

from the Motown, you know, the Four

29:50

Tops, and the, you know, all that.

29:53

So there's a line there. And it's

29:55

a blessing to be a part of

29:57

that, you know, pop sort of legacy.

30:00

Now, how are you in this little

30:02

world of these eight people? Because you're

30:04

already a theater kid stuff? Yeah, yeah,

30:06

yeah, yeah. So Donnie, met Maurice first

30:09

and you know, again, lightning in a

30:11

bottle, you know, Donnie Wahlberg was this,

30:13

you know, he was a born leader,

30:15

big personality, caring and loving, but But

30:18

you know, healthy enough ego to want

30:20

to make this happen. Big music lover,

30:22

very knowledgeable about rock and roll, but

30:25

also R&B. A lot of weird lines,

30:27

like he was in the record store

30:29

looking for freaking music. And he had

30:31

Maurice's album in his hand and another

30:34

album. And I don't know if he

30:36

picked Maurice's or whatever. things that the

30:38

universe sort of like teed up. And

30:40

so he meets Maurice. We all have

30:43

the same story. He lived in a

30:45

dilapidated brick building in Roxbury where my

30:47

parents grew up in Boston. A lot

30:50

of this is about six or seven

30:52

towns basically in Boston. A lot of

30:54

people say they're from Boston and you

30:56

say where and it's like an hour

30:59

outside. This is like Boston. And so.

31:01

He was very unassuming guy. It's super

31:03

sweet, but also Mori Starr was, you

31:06

know, big chip on his shoulder, wanted

31:08

to frick and make it. You know

31:10

what I mean? He had a chip

31:12

on his shoulder because he, you know,

31:15

New Edition left him and is, you

31:17

know, plus he was, he was like

31:19

a prize fighter. He was so talented,

31:21

talked a lot of trash, but he

31:24

backed it up, you know, but good

31:26

guy with us. Great. I mean, he

31:28

just really, it was, it was... a

31:31

great combination, but at the same time,

31:33

Maurice is sitting around, Donnie's like, I

31:35

gotta get this band together. So he's

31:37

like, you know, trying to pull things

31:40

out of a hat, he said, oh,

31:42

well, he went to school with Jordan

31:44

and John. He was friends with their

31:46

brother Chris, but he's like, oh yeah,

31:49

Jordan used to sing in the choir.

31:51

And so he calls Chris and Chris

31:53

tells Jordan and then Donny calls Jordan.

31:56

He's like, hey, I get this band.

31:58

I get this group trying to. What

32:00

do you think? Morey star, yada, yada.

32:02

He's like, Jordan's like, ah. That sounds

32:05

pretty cool. Then John gets wind of

32:07

it and he's like, I want to

32:09

get down with that too, right? So

32:11

it was sort of like a package

32:14

deal, which Maurice loved because he loved

32:16

that they were brothers. But Maurice didn't

32:18

need to hear a lot. I mean,

32:21

part of his ego was like, I'll

32:23

make anybody a star, which is, which

32:25

is, it's not true. You know, but

32:27

you got to have that attitude. incredibly

32:31

handsome couple of brothers. Jordan can

32:33

sing, John's shy, he's the shy

32:35

one, but he's ready to go.

32:37

And then when Danny found out

32:39

that Jordan was gonna be in

32:41

it, he was like, because at

32:43

first he said no, but Danny

32:46

and Jordan used to breakdance battle.

32:48

They were in different breakdance groups.

32:50

So when Danny hears Jordan, he's

32:52

like, wait a minute, because Donnie

32:54

and Danny were good friends. So

32:56

then you have four. And then

32:59

there was this kid Jamie, who

33:01

wasn't really a fit, but they

33:03

were good friends and he was

33:05

a good kid. But he was

33:07

like, eh, and funny enough, like

33:09

one of the sort of the

33:11

things was, his parents didn't want

33:14

him to be in it. He

33:16

said, and. The story is still

33:18

coming out, but recently Donnie said

33:20

that his parents that I don't

33:22

want my son going to Roxbury

33:24

Because Roxbury was a black town

33:27

and it was there was a

33:29

tough town So again how the

33:31

universe works out my parents grew

33:33

up in Roxbury so When I

33:35

said I'm going to Roxbury they

33:37

didn't bat an eyelash You know

33:39

what I mean? And back then

33:42

it was 1985 and it was

33:44

like, hey dad, some lady's picking

33:46

me up and taking me to

33:48

Roxbury. All right, be home by

33:50

five. You know, it was that,

33:52

you know what I mean? And

33:55

so the rest of the guys

33:57

were together for about, I don't

33:59

know, like. with trying to figure

34:01

out the dates, but no more

34:03

than a year, you know, hit or

34:05

miss, things were building, but people, slow

34:08

times, you know, it was like a

34:10

couple of shows here and there, and

34:12

then they started Mary Alfred,

34:15

who was Maurice's partner at

34:17

the time, trying to put this

34:19

thing together, she found Donnie

34:21

as well, sweetheart. She, she

34:24

called the local schools in

34:26

Boston, the local public schools.

34:28

and said, do you know any little

34:30

white kids who can sing and dance?

34:33

And there weren't many of us in

34:35

Boston at the time. Is that right?

34:37

Just cold calling the school. And I

34:39

didn't even go to the school except

34:41

it was in my hometown and I

34:43

was going to an after school

34:45

project, an after school just thing,

34:47

daycare thing, like when I was 12.

34:49

And they told me once and I was like,

34:51

I'm all sad, you know what I mean? I

34:53

like my little community theater,

34:55

you know. career happening. You know, I

34:58

was to have my buddies and the

35:00

whole thing. And then they called again

35:02

and then the New Edition Connection. I

35:04

was like, wait a minute, they were

35:06

with New Edition? Like I had, I

35:08

didn't have a lot of albums. That

35:10

was like it, the coolest now. I

35:12

feel like I still hold away today.

35:14

Oh, totally, totally. So, and then I

35:16

went up there, I sang a nacking,

35:18

whole song for him and you did.

35:21

The rest is history. I was in

35:23

the studio two weeks later, two weeks

35:25

later in 12. Was anyone else in your

35:27

family in show business is like where did

35:29

you find the love for this mom dad

35:31

like or were you just this a non?

35:33

I am my mother who we live four

35:35

blocks away from the oldest

35:37

community theater in America called

35:40

the Footlight Club. didn't know how

35:42

lucky we were until I moved to New

35:44

York and like this could be a theater

35:46

right black mom you know what I'm saying

35:48

I've been in plenty of this was a

35:50

good it's still living it's in great shape

35:52

through the members and grants and they they

35:54

redid it when I was growing up it

35:57

was everything was peeling and falling apart

35:59

it was like a 230-seat theater, like

36:01

gorgeous, like legit theater in

36:03

our hometown. And my mom

36:05

would get away. That was

36:08

her getaway. She had nine

36:10

kids and that was her

36:12

getaway. She was in plays,

36:14

musicals, and she would just

36:16

beam up there. So she

36:18

showed us the love of

36:20

theater. My father on the

36:22

other hand, as he would

36:25

say, it's all showbiz. It's

36:27

all showbiz. He was a

36:29

union guy into politics. You

36:31

talk about Boston politics Boston

36:33

Irish politics. I mean JFK's

36:35

grandfather honey fits was like

36:37

at the yeah at the

36:39

top like that's that's what

36:41

it was and it's sort

36:44

of Keep thinking of the

36:46

word What's the word prison?

36:48

What do you it's sort

36:50

of like future prisons. Let's

36:52

see let's see for teach

36:54

me a new word prison

36:59

Folks are don't, prison,

37:01

here we go. There

37:03

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37:05

having or showing knowledge

37:07

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37:09

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37:11

point is, my dad

37:13

said it was all

37:15

showbiz. 35 years

37:18

ago and here we have Donald

37:20

Trump in office. So if it

37:22

ain't showbiz like what the hell,

37:24

you know, and it always has

37:26

been Reagan, Clint Eastwood, Jayev, it

37:29

was all about, all these people

37:31

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37:33

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37:35

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to the do. So my dad

40:33

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40:35

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40:37

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40:39

that, you know, and I had

40:41

seven older sisters, so they all

40:44

loved to dance. Yeah, yeah, I

40:46

was the youngest of nine. Yeah,

40:48

so, so all that, I, I

40:50

was, the theater in the stage

40:53

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40:55

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40:57

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15 I think just putting myself

41:17

at 15. Yeah, like I'm in

41:19

10th grade. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

41:21

It was the And you're going

41:24

global? The other guys. Are you

41:26

going global? I mean, it all

41:28

happened fast, but you know, when

41:30

you're a kid, it doesn't go

41:32

fast. I bet. You know, that's

41:35

why I want to say, because

41:37

you're 15, like, yeah, that's. You

41:39

got non-stop energy. And go, go,

41:41

go. To me, I think of

41:44

the other guys when you asked

41:46

that question, because they were 18

41:48

and 19, which is a huge

41:50

difference. It is. You know, I

41:52

think Danny would in like, he

41:55

would look at the... the charts

41:57

every day. You know, even before

41:59

we were, he was just a

42:01

music fan before we made it.

42:03

So, you know, I was just

42:06

watching an old tape that of

42:08

us in Japan, like, when we

42:10

just started making it, we went

42:12

over there for the first time,

42:15

and it's like, we're all babies,

42:17

right? And he's like, what are

42:19

you saying, top? He goes, how

42:21

you feel about the next single,

42:23

which was gonna be right stuff?

42:26

after Pleads Don't Go Girl was

42:28

the first first single that was

42:30

top 10 and we're building or

42:32

whatever he's like in and Danny

42:34

said top five and the album's

42:37

going platinum now right stuff went

42:39

three number three and talk about

42:41

platinum I mean we the hanging

42:43

tough sold I don't know 20

42:46

million records so he was way

42:48

so you tell that kid oh

42:50

no Danny it's not only going

42:52

to go platinum it's going But

42:54

to answer your question for me,

42:57

I didn't really have that, oh

42:59

my God, because it was just

43:01

another stage for me. It was

43:03

exciting. It was fantastic. It was

43:06

fun. I realized that we were

43:08

playing arenas and it was, but

43:10

outside of the nobody's coming to

43:12

your house, no weird fan, you

43:14

know what I mean? Oh, you

43:17

know what I mean? Like, it's

43:19

one thing for you to perform

43:21

or to do what you're supposed

43:23

to do. I just wanted to

43:25

go home everyone one time. I

43:28

pulled up, I rented a car

43:30

because like, that's all you want

43:32

to do is, man, I can

43:34

rent a car, take my friends

43:37

to McDonald's. So I'd rush home

43:39

on a day off and I

43:41

went to my childhood home, oh

43:43

my dad's home and, um, I

43:45

don't know. 50 60 girls outside

43:48

of my house, right? Oh, yeah,

43:50

yeah. So, so, for some reason,

43:52

anybody in their right mind. would

43:54

have kept driving. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

43:56

But you have this sense of

43:59

like, no, I'm, I should be

44:01

able, I want to go home,

44:03

I'm going to go home. That's

44:05

my house, my house. And so

44:08

I pull up the driveway, which

44:10

I never do. You know, there's

44:12

some things you do when you

44:14

did, you just don't, like, we

44:16

never went through the front door,

44:19

because my mother said, come through

44:21

the back door, What the hell

44:23

are you doing here? You know,

44:25

I was like, so I finally

44:28

leave, I'm trying to back out

44:30

as they're coming up the driveway.

44:32

I'm trying to, it's tiny, it's

44:34

a tiny neighbor, it's like, I'm

44:36

surprised at him coming up on

44:39

the curb so I can, yeah,

44:41

it was, it was not normal.

44:43

What's heist? Are you just homeschooled

44:45

after that? Like, how do you

44:47

even show up? I did ninth

44:50

grade. And then that summer is

44:52

when it started blowing up. Yeah,

44:54

so did you ever go back

44:56

for a prom or anything like

44:59

that? I did, I did my

45:01

midterms on 10th, 10th grade. You

45:03

went in to take? Yes, but

45:05

it was an all-boy school. Okay,

45:07

so the girls weren't, okay, yeah,

45:10

you would not, probably not even

45:12

got out at the M school,

45:14

I see. And then out to

45:16

that, it was, it was all

45:18

homeschool, yeah. What would you say,

45:21

like, like, who are roughly that

45:23

age now looking back at seeing

45:25

looking at them through your lens

45:27

like what were some of the

45:30

hardest things to deal with being

45:32

that age even though you do

45:34

have all the energy that's the

45:36

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45:38

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48:03

you become branded. I mean, my younger

48:05

cousin, so I'm your age, so my

48:07

younger girl cousins, I mean, bro, I've

48:09

been looking at you on their walls

48:12

for years, you know, I mean, looking

48:14

at you on their, every time I

48:16

walk in, I'm like, Jesus Christ. Sure.

48:19

These guys are taking pictures left and

48:21

right, you're supposed to. Yeah, yeah,

48:23

yeah, yeah. Like, what. I

48:27

forgot what I wanted to fucking

48:29

answer. So you said, let's see,

48:31

so we said, we said, we said

48:34

kids and advice. Oh, yeah. You

48:36

guys are groving, you're in

48:38

it, you ever, have you ever fallen

48:40

on stage? We talked about being... Oh,

48:42

the bad stuff? Yeah, like trips? Yeah,

48:45

have you ever... I mean it happens

48:47

but I mean it and this is

48:49

before internet too so I imagine you're

48:51

not being the Beyonce falls not on

48:53

state but yeah what do we ever

48:56

ever here I got a great question

48:58

for you I was just telling my I

49:00

was working out my physical therapist today

49:02

and I was telling him you know

49:04

like back in the day when we

49:07

would do three shows a night the

49:09

third show sometimes me I would find

49:11

a little difficult at times because I

49:13

know I've already said this shit twice

49:15

tonight But did I already say it

49:17

in this hour? You know, and I

49:19

start getting in my own head away

49:22

from being present. I'm like, fuck. Look,

49:24

I'm supposed to say it two times.

49:26

Sure. You ever do that? You ever

49:28

fuck lyrics up? Well, I've been

49:30

pretty good with that. I mean, I'm,

49:32

again, I'm a theater kid and, you know,

49:34

on Broadway and in New York, you know,

49:37

you're doing eight shows a week, you know

49:39

what I mean? So I know that.

49:41

the Wednesday matinee or the

49:44

Sunday matinee? Yeah, right now.

49:46

Never falling off stage or

49:48

anything. You guys are moving so

49:50

much. I always look at you

49:53

guys like, man, how are they

49:55

not fall? The stuff that we

49:57

talk about, do you remember when?

50:00

blah blah blah I mean

50:02

well what one when we

50:04

would just sort of building

50:06

up steam because before please

50:08

don't go girl was really

50:10

taking off it would it

50:12

was on the black charts

50:14

the black music charts okay

50:16

and it was building up

50:18

scene and went to 55

50:21

and then we got a

50:23

break on a pop station

50:25

in Florida started playing it

50:27

and that was that was

50:29

it it's crazy so talk

50:31

about the gatekeepers right you're

50:33

right you know what I'm

50:35

saying jays back in the

50:37

day was it yeah you

50:40

could get your record play

50:42

man that was yeah time

50:44

so so We got

50:46

some steam or whatever. There's some

50:48

radio play and we had played

50:50

We had played this place out

50:52

outside of Boston and it was

50:54

like a church basement, but they

50:57

had a couple of things going

50:59

on and So We're going there.

51:01

We're excited. We're excited about any

51:03

show. You know what I'm saying?

51:05

And we this is it every

51:07

show was like the Super Bowl.

51:09

It was like, how are we

51:11

going to surprise them? What's the

51:14

gag? How are we going to,

51:16

you know, with no money, blah

51:18

blah blah, we'd always ripping something

51:20

off to like, it's exposed to

51:22

another cost of like something. So

51:24

we get there this time we're

51:26

working on like a little do-up

51:28

section, we're going to play some

51:31

instruments. And which we normally didn't

51:33

do, but we mixed it up.

51:35

And Donnie can play the drums,

51:37

but, Let me back it

51:39

up, Bill. We play, we drive up

51:41

to this place and it's always always

51:44

us five in one car, like Maurice

51:46

would rent a car or he'd, he

51:48

knew he had a few bucks or

51:50

he would, you know, finagle a deal

51:52

for a Cadillac. So we'd all pile

51:54

in a Cadillac and we drive up

51:57

to this church in the parking lot

51:59

is packed. And

52:01

we're like, oh my

52:03

God, right? And Maurice

52:05

Caban, the power of

52:08

radio, we got down

52:10

in the basement, no

52:12

one's there. It's bingo

52:14

upstairs. It's bingo upstairs.

52:16

It's bingo upstairs, bro.

52:18

It's bingo. There's eight

52:20

people in the audience.

52:23

And this is the

52:25

show, this is a

52:27

show, the bingo is,

52:29

and this is a

52:31

show we're going to

52:33

try out a big

52:35

instrumental. Donnie's on the

52:38

drums and he's playing

52:40

in the drum set

52:42

is like falling apart

52:44

as he's playing, you

52:46

know. So, yeah, I

52:48

mean, the power of

52:50

radio, man. Yeah. The

52:53

power of bingo, bro.

52:55

Yeah, exactly. Oh, man.

52:57

Yeah. Yeah.

52:59

Any, um, so weirdest or craziest

53:01

thing any fan has ever thrown

53:03

on stage at you. Oh, thrown?

53:05

Yeah, thrown. We'll come back to

53:07

Dunn. Yeah. It's wild to show

53:10

up at your fucking house. When

53:12

we're asked that, we go, oh,

53:14

you want to tell him A

53:16

or B? Like we've been asked

53:18

that a lot. But, um, throne,

53:20

I mean, you know, when we

53:22

got over to Europe, and in

53:24

the UK there's a there's a

53:26

rabbit quality like there's those soccer

53:28

fans and they're amazing but they

53:30

like kind of lose their shit

53:32

when they're in that in a

53:34

crowd all right okay like they'll

53:36

throw coins up and stuff like

53:38

that you know what I mean

53:40

like and you probably they're probably

53:42

drunk or maybe it's the boyfriend

53:44

who the hell knows yeah yeah

53:46

yeah but they did throw a

53:48

lot of stuffed animals and unfortunately

53:51

on our first tour over they'd

53:53

They threw a stuffed animal and

53:55

Danny was dancing and he twisted

53:57

his leg. Oh, he stepped on

53:59

it. Yeah, yeah. Oh shit. Had

54:01

to leave the tour for a

54:03

couple of weeks actually. For real?

54:05

Yeah, yeah, sadly. Yeah, because of

54:07

a stuffy. I know, exactly, bro.

54:09

Exactly, I remember him coming off

54:11

stage and he always, he's still

54:13

pissed at me because I couldn't

54:15

help but laugh because he's like

54:17

limping off. Yeah, what kind of

54:19

jobs? Yeah, I don't know if

54:21

you, I think he forgave, or

54:23

he forgave, or he forgave me,

54:25

or he said he did, or

54:27

he did, or he did. But

54:29

that was, I mean, we did

54:32

feel bad. That was crazy. You

54:34

had to go home and recoup.

54:36

What's the crazy? Now see, those

54:38

are, they're older guys. You're the

54:40

baby also of this group, right?

54:42

At this point, I'm just, you

54:44

know, I played at it. The

54:46

youngest. But I'm saying you're the

54:48

youngest. Just like you're the youngest

54:50

of your sisters. Right. Right. And

54:52

my brother. So you're watching, I

54:54

mean, you're right. You're looking at

54:56

a 10th grader. fresh, college freshmen.

54:58

There's a big, fucking difference there.

55:00

So what kind of, what's the

55:02

craziest thing? Give me A or

55:04

B, the fans ever done. Well,

55:06

my thing is, we were in

55:08

Korea, came back from the gym,

55:10

you know, ready to take a

55:13

shower, take my clothes off, I

55:15

walk into the bathroom, and I

55:17

closed the door and behind the

55:19

door, two Korean school girls. Get

55:21

the fuck out! And I screamed

55:23

like a... Korean school girls. Yeah,

55:25

they scream, we all scream. I

55:27

grab a towel, I run down

55:29

the freaking hotel, you know, lobby.

55:31

I'm like, there's girls in my

55:33

room. See, it sounds like a

55:35

dream, right? Sounds like every teenager's

55:37

dream to have two school girls

55:39

in there. But it's not when

55:41

it first happened. So, yeah, you

55:43

know, there was girls that gone

55:45

on the top of the bus

55:47

in Chile, you know, you know,

55:49

we're like. what's that sound on

55:51

the top of the bus we

55:54

open the hatch and some girls

55:56

like hanging on you know that

55:58

is not yeah yeah I get

56:00

that like a dude mentality, but

56:02

for girls, yeah. Yeah, yeah, no,

56:04

they were, it was, it was

56:06

intense, man. What's it like to

56:08

be a high schooler and walk

56:10

into a store, a target or

56:12

what a man, I don't even

56:14

know if they had targets back

56:16

then, Kmark, whatever. Chess King. Yeah,

56:18

and see, yeah, and see, okay,

56:21

a new kid's jacket or lunch

56:23

boxes. Back to school, is that

56:25

fucking wild, you know. I mean, I

56:27

know you're so used to it

56:29

now, but yeah, it's got to be

56:31

nuts. You guys were everywhere.

56:34

Your kids, your kids know how,

56:36

like, globally, well, out there,

56:38

everywhere you guys were. We've

56:41

been playing arenas again since

56:43

2008, so they, my kids

56:45

grew up walking, walking, so

56:48

they're saying it, okay. Oh,

56:50

oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's, um. By

56:52

the way, the credits don't

56:55

transfer, of course, you know,

56:57

I'm still dad in the

56:59

morning. Yeah, of course, they

57:02

don't give it. Whatever, dad,

57:04

you know, so that's, that

57:07

means nothing. Exactly, exactly. Big

57:09

time. You know, partly, you know,

57:12

we were a little dismayed

57:14

at how much of a brand

57:16

it became. you know, there were

57:19

mistakes made along the way. We

57:21

were teenagers, we were cool, and

57:23

then suddenly everything is pink and

57:25

fluorescent, you know, and the gatekeepers

57:28

unfortunately let the floodgates open with

57:30

us. My cousin's had like bed

57:32

sheets and shit with you guys,

57:34

pink. So that might have been

57:37

like, oh, there's another thing we

57:39

don't like, you know, they used

57:41

to use anything, but, um,

57:43

I mean, I guess it's partly... partly

57:47

it's like for new

57:49

kids when you say

57:51

wow there's because we

57:53

have gratitude all

57:56

the day long but like

57:58

when you say wow My

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dad would say take it easy

1:03:05

easy does it what he

1:03:07

say take five for yourself

1:03:09

that's a good advice. My

1:03:12

grandmother used to say I'm

1:03:14

gonna take five she'd always

1:03:16

say I'm gonna take five

1:03:18

she'd always say that I'm like

1:03:20

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