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NPR. A
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little over a year ago, something
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mysterious happened in the skies over
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Russia. Caught on camera, unverified footage
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of the plane tumbling from the
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sky with a missing wing then
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bursting into flames north of Moscow.
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Unbelievably on board that plane, a
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man named Yevgeny Pragozhin, the head
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of a company, a private military
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contractor, hired by Russian President Vladimir
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Putin. Ten bodies have been recovered.
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President Putin didn't confirm Pragozhin's death,
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but spoke of him in the
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past tense. I
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knew Pragozhin for a very long time. He
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was a man with a complicated fate, and
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he made serious mistakes in life. This
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ominous sequence of events may have been
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the end of Pragozhin, but it wasn't
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the end for the private army he
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built, the Wagner Group. This
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is the Indicator for Planet Money. I'm Adrian Ma. Today
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on the show, I talk to Sean McFate,
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who studies mercenary groups. And
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he explains how the Wagner Group was
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rebranded, why he's called it
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the world's most dangerous private army,
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and how Wagner's business model creates
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a blueprint for others to follow.
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Listen to the How to Do Everything podcast
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from NPR. Dan
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and Chad and Regina Faso.
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And they're trying to create
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this swath of
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Russian-influenced territory and
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also that they extract natural resources
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like gold and diamonds, which they
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smuggle into Russia to fund the
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war in Ukraine. And
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so the basic business model of the
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Wagner Group continues in Africa under
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new management. And it's
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going to produce 5,000 more mercenaries that
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are skilled in Africa. Because
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remember, they're in an industry
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vested in conflict and the
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most conflict-prone continent in the
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world. And if that scenario
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were not concerning enough, Sean
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says Wagner's business model has created
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a sort of blueprint for other
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mercenary groups to follow. We're
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going to see probably more of that,
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especially as the world turns to
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rare earth minerals over, say, oil.
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The only places left to tap
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in the world are under conflict
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zones like Afghanistan and Africa. And
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it's going to take pirate oil companies and
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mining companies to go in there protected
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by bands of mercenaries. So
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there's a lot of opportunity for
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this model to develop in the decades to
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come. Kind of a scary
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thing to think about. Well, it
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is because I think what oil was to the
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20th century, rare earths are becoming
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to the 21st. Because everything that
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sounds like electronics in it is
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powered by rare earths. I
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can't help but wonder whether
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what Wagner is doing,
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kind of at the behest of Vladimir Putin,
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is something that the US should worry about.
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The US has missed some
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opportunities. The mercenary army of
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Wagner and the Russian military
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have this ongoing friction between the two
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of them, which is frankly
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pretty typical history between private
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and public warriors. And
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we should have...
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