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NPR. This
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is the Indicator for Planet Money. I'm Adrienne Ma. And I'm
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Weyland Wong. We are still in the thick
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of Olympic season. The Paris
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2024 Paralympic Games kicked off this week,
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and the athletes that competed at the Olympics earlier
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this summer are back home now. Maybe taking a
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victory lap. Or a victory nap. That's
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what I would do. I
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would get a gold medal in napping. Some
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of these athletes are entering or returning to
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college in the U.S. Maybe
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with a higher profile post-Olympics. Now,
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in a previous era, these college Olympians wouldn't
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be able to capitalize on their fame by,
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say, signing endorsement deals with companies. But
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college athletes can do this today.
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That's because back in 2021, the
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National Collegiate Athletic Association loosened its rules
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around how athletes are allowed to
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make money off their image. This
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is a big boon for students like Frederick
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Richard. He's a gymnast at the University of
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Michigan, and he was part of the U.S.
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men's gymnastics team that won a bronze medal
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in Paris. Oh, he also has almost
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850,000 followers on TikTok. You
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know, the TikTok world, the social media world, it's
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like, wow, you can reach new people that have
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never seen your face. The
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NCAA rule changes opened up a whole
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new level of economic opportunity for athletes
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like Frederick. Today on the
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show, we look at how the Paris
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Olympics have boosted the earning potential for
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college athletes, especially in sports that historically
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have been kind of overlooked. And
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Frederick tells us how his business life
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has changed after the Olympic Games. It's
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not every day you get to talk to
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a famous athlete like Frederick Richard. So given
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the opportunity to ask a question of an
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honest to God Olympian, I did not throw
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away my shot. changes
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were too new for many Tokyo Olympians
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to really take advantage of the opportunity.
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But they came just in time for
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Frederick, even if he didn't immediately recognize
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how significant these changes would be. When
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it happened, it's before I even got into college, so I
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was like, oh, I don't really know what
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this means, but cool. I'll get an extra couple bucks, you
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know what I mean? As a high
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school student in Massachusetts, Frederick had already built
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up a following on social media for his
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gymnastics videos. He entered the
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University of Michigan in 2022, and he
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saw that companies were really interested in
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sponsoring college athletes. He
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realized he could make more than just an
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extra couple bucks off this. So
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Frederick used a stipend from USA Gymnastics
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to hire two videographers. They helped shoot
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and edit the content for his social
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media accounts. I definitely felt like a
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risk, but I knew I have full scholarship
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here. I have no debt. I could stay
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living off the dining
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meal plans for a little longer. I
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don't need to use this money
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for anything else. I have a goal that I want to reach.
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I realized, okay, treat this like a business,
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invest in the right areas, and the money
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will come back. The
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money did come back. Frederick's
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first brand deal was with a company
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called Flips that makes chocolate-covered pretzels. And,
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just so happens that Frederick's Instagram
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and TikTok handle is Frederick Flips.
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So I think this is what
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people in the ad business call synergy. Frederick
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also signed deals with Google, Marriott, and
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Celsius, the energy drink company. He has
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his own clothing line now. This
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profile made him a social media star even
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before he made the team for the Paris
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Olympics. Yeah, pretty unusual for
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a male gymnast, because Frederick doesn't
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compete in, you know, one of
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the major money-making sports for colleges.
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He doesn't play football or men's
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basketball. There are only 12
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schools in the country that even have a
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Division I men's gymnastics program. Compare
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that now to over 350 D1 basketball programs. or
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the footballs where there's a big lump
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sum of money in contract waiting for you. I
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want to be making the same amount of
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money as these guys, nowhere near yet, but that's
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still the goal to get to that level. And
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so I had to get creative and say, okay,
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the money's going to come from building
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amazing businesses and using my name and
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image to do big things rather than
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just the gymnastics part. College
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athletes can be part of the influencer
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economy now. And a lot
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of companies see athletes as the ideal way
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to reach young customers. That's according
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to Aidan Syell. He's the co-founder and
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CEO of Mogul, an online marketplace that
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matches up college athletes with brands. Ultimately,
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what brands are looking to get out
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of the athletes is to reach college
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students and Gen Z consumers. So
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all of these athletes are on campus and
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are the same age demographics, use
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the same products, have similar likes
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and interests. It doesn't matter what sport you
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play. It frankly doesn't really
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matter how good you are either, though
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that helps. Yeah, you know what else
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helps? Being an Olympic caliber
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athlete like Frederick Richard. He
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says his DMs on Instagram basically exploded
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after he competed in Paris. So now
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he lets his agent sift through all
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the inbound requests from potential sponsors. I
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don't know how my agent juggles the amount
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of things coming. You need a team
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to make the process easy. Another
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big difference post-Olympics for Frederick is that
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the brand deals he's negotiating now are
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for like four year terms, before they
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were usually for one year. And
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this suits Frederick just fine. He says
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he's playing the long game and going
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for more lucrative partnerships than something like
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free food in exchange for an Instagram
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post. At Michigan, I door
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dash every single day and I get
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sweet green. Sweet green, you know, the
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national chain of salad restaurants. And
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every time I get sweet green, people come up to me like, hey,
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why don't you do a deal with sweet green? You can
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easily get free sweet green every day. And
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they don't realize like it's not about just getting free.
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food, like that's undervalued myself, you know, I
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can just sign a deal that values me
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right and it pays for my sweet green.
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I'm thinking five, 10 years out because
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I'm going to be doing my sport for five,
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10 years. If a brand isn't going to help me
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get closer to that, I don't really care about working with
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them. Frederick says he ultimately wants
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to raise the entire profile of men's gymnastics
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in the US. That's a goal that will
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outlast his own college career at the University
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of Michigan. When I look at my brand, I'm
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really thinking about how am I growing the sport? How am
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I giving opportunities to younger kids, kids like me, like growing
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up, I didn't see a lot of black kids in the
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gym and like I want the sport to be 20 times
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as big. So are we going to
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see Frederick on a Wheaties box soon? Or,
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you know, whatever this is the 2024
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equivalent of the Wheaties box? Well,
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Frederick couldn't divulge too much about deals in
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the works, but he does have a new
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bobble head. Man, I feel like
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gymnasts are the new moguls if Frederick
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is any sign of the future. Yeah,
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I mean, he's presiding over a business
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empire. This
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episode was produced by Corey Bridges with Engineering by
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Quacy Lee. It was fact checked by Cyr Juarez.
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K Kincanet edits the show and the indicators of
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production of NPR.
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