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Welcome to part two of

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this amazing conversation with Gabby

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Bernstein. I gotta tell you,

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Jamie, this is one of

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my favorite interviews I've ever

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done. I mean that, I

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hope you can really feel

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it. Ever. This is the

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work, baby. This moment right

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here is your chance to

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change your life. So

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the thing that I often feel

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the most, oh I'm not

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enough. We transform, not because

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we stop a behavior, force

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ourselves, or judge ourselves, or

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will ourselves into stopping. It's

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because we befriend these parts

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of ourselves. I'll just like

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wipe my tears off while

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you're doing that. in the

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personal development space that people

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can oftentimes get into this

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pattern of spiritually bypassing the

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actual issue. If you miss

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the miracle if you try to

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override the experience. I'm getting so

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emotional. Like, I just ride away,

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I felt like she's like, I

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just need to be seen. Like,

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I just need you to just

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be here with me and just see

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me. I'm here to tell

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everyone. But these are just

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parts of who you are

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that are working really, really

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hard to numb impermissible feelings

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from your past. My addiction?

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She worked hard. When I

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got sober early in my

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recovery, someone said to me,

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I wish you a slow

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recovery. And I love that

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because it's in the slow

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steadiness of our recovery that

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the miracles happen. Are you?

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ready to master manifesting and

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become your own inner healer.

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Gabby Bernstein has been hailed

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as a next generation thought

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leader. She's also the creator

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and host of the podcast, dear

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Gabby, and today I am so

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excited to share that she's releasing

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her 10th book. called self-help.

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This is your chance

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to change your life.

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Jamie Kern Lima is

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her name. Everybody needs

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Jamie from Lima and

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their wife. Jamie Kern

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Lima. Jamie you're so

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inspiring. Jamie Kern Lima.

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Can you talk about

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the role of spirit guides? This

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is like the best conversation ever. I

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believe that we all have. these guides

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of great wisdom. So we have human

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people who left their bodies like Louise

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Hay and Wayne Dye or my

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grandmother or ancestors who we once knew

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in the human form who have now

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deceased and take on a form of

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guidance. So they become a spiritual guide

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and now in this lifetime. And we

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also have angelic realm of guides

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and angelic realm of guides. And these

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guides, their pure mission is to help

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guide our thoughts back to love. So

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when we... have a fear-based thought

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and we call on a prayer,

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it's the angels that will come through

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and help us reorganize our belief systems

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to be the bridge from fear to

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love, to bring our thoughts back

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to God. Do we all have them?

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Even if we don't believe in them,

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even if someone's like, that's a bunch

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of crap, they still have them.

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We all have them. If you don't

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believe in it, that's no problem, whatever

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is right for you. But if you,

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the more faith you have, the more

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you have, the more you have, the

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more you'll hear, the more you'll hear.

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We have to ask. There are instances

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where people be like, you know, I

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was in a car accident and I

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heard, you know, get out the left

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door and I heard it as a

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voice inside. Like that's an angelic guide

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or a spirit guide. And even

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if they don't believe it

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can, there can be those

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moments of intervention when it's

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not your time. But... Most of

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the time day to day you can have that presence like

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a best friend by your side or it can be completely

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shut off if it but they're there. And there's

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also just the presence of that

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energetic field that's what is the

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resonance of the guides and angels.

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So the way to connect to

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this energy to these spirits is

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to attune your energy, to be

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in spiritual conversation like this, or

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to be grounded in meditative state,

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or to be in joy with

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a child, or often when I'm

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in... a therapy session or with

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someone that's like a healer, I'll

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see those sparks of light. Or

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right here with you, just talking

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about my son, he just gave

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me that little signal. Like I'm

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here. It's like a little spark

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of light, kind of like a

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tinsul coming through the sky. That

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can be an image of an

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angel. Or you can feel a

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sensation move through your body. You

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can see I'm channeling now because

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my left hand goes numb. So

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I'm a medium also, I'm not

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sure how much you know about

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that, but I can channel these

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angels and guides. And so, you

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don't have to speak about it,

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I speak for it. You know,

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sometimes they'll tell you the wildest

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thing. Yeah. You know how we

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turn that light off behind you?

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Yes. It keeps going on? Yes.

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Is it really going off? Yeah,

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yeah. It's just been on and

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now it's off. And I'm like,

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what is happening? But I keep

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going. Okay. That's what's happening. That's

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what's happening. That's what's happening. That's

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what's happening. Because the angels and

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guides will play with technology. because

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I want to know this. So

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with our spirit guides, and this

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for everyone listening as well, are

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your spirit guides always somebody that

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maybe was in your life, but

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as past, or can it be

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someone you don't, you know that?

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No, you can have guides that

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were, that were, maybe a teacher,

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maybe a figure in your religion,

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or guides can come in many

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forms. Yeah, okay. And then you

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can have guides that are, that

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are just have like symbolic meanings,

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yeah. Okay. Okay, and you can't

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choose them, right? Do they choose

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you? They choose you, and the

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deceased... family members you can invoke,

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you can ask them, you can

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say, but here's the key is

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always to just invoke this presence

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with a message like this. I

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welcome the guidance of the highest

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truth and compassion because just like

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a party in the real world.

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in the physical realm, you're not

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going to open your door in

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Montecito and be like, hey, everybody,

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come on in, right? Like, Oprah,

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you can come in and Gabby,

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you can come in and you're

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going to have a guest list,

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right? Your neighbors, right? And you're

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not going to, you're going to

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have a guest list, right? Your

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neighbors, right? And you're not going

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to, and you're going to have

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a guest list, right? Your neighbors,

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right, right, your friends, and you're,

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you're your friends, you're, you're, you're,

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you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're,

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you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're,

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you're, their spirit guides into their

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life. So for everyone watching us

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right now or listening to us

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and maybe this is the very

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first time, they're going to actually

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go, you know what, right now

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in this moment, I'm going to

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welcome my spirit guides into my

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life. What exactly should they say

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right now? And I'm going to

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invite them to say it with

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us too. You would say thank

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you guidance of the highest truth

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and compassion for entering into my

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life right now. or thank you

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guidance of the highest truth and

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compassion for revealing to me what

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I need to know about whatever

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it is that we want to

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know. But the thank you is

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very important because it's affirming that

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we know and believe that that

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guidance is real and that it's

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present in our life. And do

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you do the same for calling

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on your angels? Thank you angels.

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And when you say thank you

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guidance of the highest truth and

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compassion, I think you're calling on

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your angels, calling on your guides.

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But sometimes I'll talk directly to

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the angels, like at night my

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son and I go to sleep

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and we talk to the angels,

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like at night my son and

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I go to sleep and we

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talk to the angels every single

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night. He has such faith because

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I've just gone like this. Does

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your little symbol, your little, I

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love you symbol? And he just...

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Thank you for, now every time

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I see you doing this, I

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think of my son doing that

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with his angels. And he pulls

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all of his angels in and

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we talk about the sparks of

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light and he sees them. And

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it's just incredible. I mean, it's

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the truth of who we are

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and we just turn it off.

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We just turn it off. What's

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the difference between guides and angels?

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Well, I think that guides often

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can have a different. energy as

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well, and say with angels too,

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but you can feel the energy

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of the presence. So for instance

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when Wayne Dyer comes to me,

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who's with me quite often, he's

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my late mentor and friend, Dr.

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Wayne Dyer, if he comes to

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me, it's really calm energy, I'd

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call on Wayne before I give

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a talk because he was just

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a masterful speaker and I'll just

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call on his energy and it

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just puts me just into the

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seat of my truth and anything

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I say is exactly what it

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needs to me often. usually very

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rapid energy kind of like I

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got something to tell you we

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got to get to work and

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I know that she's using me

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now to carry the message and

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so I'm in the devotional commitment

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to her mission and carrying out

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her mission in this lifetime and

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then I have an angel guide

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called Lily and I just know

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her name is Lily because I've

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always just known it I can

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see her in my mind's eyes

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she's very young and she's like

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very long blonde hair and she's

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very very very angelic psychic reading

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and she goes who's Lily and

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I was like okay thank you

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for the confirmation and now every

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time I have a different reading

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with somebody else giving me a

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reading they'll always ask me who's

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Lily or they'll say I hear

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an L name and it's just

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confirming that that is my guide

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so I've had this happen twice

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to me where in a reading

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they've said Mary Magdalene yes exactly

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is like all around you Mary

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Magdalene I'm like Mary Magdalene and

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and So what do you think

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that means? Well, I think that...

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kinds of beautiful archetypes and figures

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and and present the presence of

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spiritual essence can come to us

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in unique ways so I think

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that that's funny that you said

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that Mary Magdalene was the energy

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because it was actually one of

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the examples I was going to

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give because it's like some people

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can feel like they have like

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a Christ-like nature around them and

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energy of Jesus around them or

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some people might feel like they

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have an energy of Gandhi around

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them but when you were saying

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it earlier I was thinking about

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Mary Magdalene and so it's not

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a surprise that that's who you've

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chosen to come to you. And

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sometimes it's because it's coming in

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a form that we might resonate

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with, right? So the images that

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we might see as an angel

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or a guide could be in

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a physical vision in our minds,

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because that's how we can interpret

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it, as maybe this archetypal figure

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or as a family member or

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an image of an angelic presence

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that we can resonate with. And

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I think, you know, we're in

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a loneliness epidemic. It's only getting

11:30

worse in some ways as we

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get higher and higher and more

11:34

and more advanced with technology. And

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would you say, Gabby, that like,

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us learning how to, how to

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call upon our guides and angels

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is also a way, much like

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people practice faith in this for,

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in part for this as well,

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a way to Feel less alone

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and to know we're not alone.

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Absolutely. Yeah, I believe that when

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we have that relationship We no

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longer feel alone And it's a

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relationship that I access daily You

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know I let me give you

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an example like I Was you

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know struggling with some of this

12:07

hormonal stuff recently and I was

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was in a pharmacy kind of

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like, okay, I got to get

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on track and a while back

12:15

my very dear friend had told

12:17

me about this doctor in LA.

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And I was like. okay but

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I was seeing somebody else at

12:23

the time who I really trusted

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and she was amazing and I

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just sort of filed that name

12:30

away and then I was in

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the the pharmacy like looking for

12:34

some estrogen kind of supplement or

12:36

whatever and I looked at this

12:38

woman she looked middle-aged like myself

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and I was like middle-aged like

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myself and I was like Harry

12:44

menopause and menopause and she looked

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me she goes oh and she

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said the name of the of

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the center right and she's like

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this is where I friend had

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referred me to several months earlier.

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Fast forward, you know, that day,

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I was like, I'm not going

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to ignore this sign. My guides

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have led me to this sign.

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I spoke up randomly to a

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woman in a store. She gave

13:09

back to me the exact referral

13:11

I had six months ago. I'm

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not going to ignore it. And

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last night I had the appointment

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with her and it was just

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like, she just opened my eyes

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to so much more. our guides,

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whether we acknowledge that's what it

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is or feel that's what it

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is or agree that's what it

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is. They've all told us, oh,

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you're dating the wrong person. Oh,

13:33

they really didn't lose their phone

13:35

for three days. Oh, they didn't.

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They're not telling the truth. And

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it's easy to tell. I'm going

13:41

to ignore that and all that.

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But then when we choose to

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listen, do you believe, Gab, we

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all have divine callings in our

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life? I do. I believe that

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when we are in spirit before

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we enter the body, that we

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sit down and we look at

13:58

a checklist and we say, okay,

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I'm going to go through this

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and this and this and this

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and this because my soul needs

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to experience all these things so

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that I can transcend them and

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learn X, Y, Z lesson in

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this lifetime. And so I know

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for myself that my soul looked

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at that list and said to

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my guides, here's what I want

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to go through. And it didn't

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look so easy, but it had

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a purpose. And the purpose for

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me was to transcend fear and

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know what love, living in love

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and living in light means. to

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know it. And I've said yes

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to those difficult moments so that

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I could be here now. And

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be where I've been along the

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way because you can be going

14:43

through really tough stuff and still

14:45

do great healing work in the

14:47

world, even in the midst of

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some of your darkest moments. You

14:51

know, sort of a one thing

14:53

you've talked about a couple times

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now, just in this conversation that

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I want to call out for

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everyone listening at home, is... you

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are so in flow with instantly

15:04

assigning a meaning or a belief

15:06

to the things you've gone through

15:08

as if they were absolutely for

15:10

you because now you're helping other

15:12

people get through them or now

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you're right and so what most

15:16

people what most people default to

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you sometimes without knowing it is

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oh I just went through X,

15:22

Y, or Z, it could be

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I went through some of the

15:26

things we've talked about today that

15:28

already postpartum where I've went through

15:30

a really tough setback or I've

15:32

struggled with addiction or, you know,

15:34

I'm in menopause or any of

15:36

those things and then they sit

15:38

in that space as though this

15:41

is my hardship I'm in. You

15:43

know and everyone everyone listening and

15:45

watching maybe you picked up on

15:47

this too with Gabby, but you're

15:49

so quick to say you know

15:51

I transcended that and of course

15:53

share you've shared how and and

15:55

That was meant to happen to

15:57

me Because then I'm sharing and

15:59

now helping so many other people

16:01

through that and I think that

16:03

that is such a beautiful place

16:05

not only of your journey of

16:07

how you heal through things, but

16:09

also your purpose and your power.

16:11

And I think a lot of

16:13

people, they may not be able

16:15

to do a profession that has

16:17

to do with the thing that

16:20

they have gone through. but they

16:22

can do a profession but separately

16:24

to be able to tap into

16:26

the things in their life and

16:28

get to a place where they

16:30

go wow maybe this happened for

16:32

me even though I would never

16:34

wish it on anyone else maybe

16:36

it happened for me and maybe

16:38

actually I can get to that

16:40

place where I can help other

16:42

people go through it and then

16:44

getting that deep sense of purpose

16:46

from that. Because a lot of

16:48

people feel that they don't know

16:50

what their purpose or their divine

16:52

calling is and they feel like

16:54

something's missing. How can people help,

16:56

I guess, especially when they're not

16:59

in the, when they haven't put

17:01

in the reps of being able

17:03

to, or maybe, you know, they

17:05

haven't. been able to transcend a

17:07

hardship yet. You know, how, how

17:09

would you say in the most

17:11

simplistic terms I guess is the

17:13

way to start going, well, wait

17:15

a minute, maybe I look at

17:17

that hardship and instead of saying

17:19

this idea, this defines me, maybe

17:21

it's like, oh, maybe learning to

17:23

transcend it and turn it into

17:25

purpose. I'd be careful not to

17:27

do it too soon because we

17:29

don't want to. We don't want

17:31

to give purpose to our pain

17:33

when we still need to experience

17:35

that pain. Yeah, oh talk more

17:38

about that. When we're in a

17:40

moment of grieving or we're in

17:42

an experience of discomfort, we don't

17:44

want to override that experience. We

17:46

can be curious about it. We

17:48

can be compassionate towards ourselves. We

17:50

can do, we can do, I

17:52

mean, it's perfect segue because it's

17:54

exactly. It's exactly what I've been

17:56

talking about in this new era

17:58

of my teaching, which is really

18:00

about being not overriding our experiences,

18:02

and whether it's an actual life

18:04

experience or it's an experience inside

18:06

an emotional experience. And so when

18:08

we, there's a balance between being

18:10

the victim and being and moving

18:12

too quickly into. possibility. And so

18:14

we want to just stay in

18:17

sometimes this space that we're in

18:19

and you can have the inquiry

18:21

of, okay, what would you have

18:23

me learn from this? That's a

18:25

beautiful prayer. What would you have

18:27

me learn from this? But also,

18:29

I don't want to rush past

18:31

it. When I got sober early

18:33

in my recovery, someone said to

18:35

me, I wish you a slow

18:37

recovery. And I love that because

18:39

it's in the slow steadiness of

18:41

our recovery that the miracles happen.

18:43

And it's slow doesn't mean that

18:45

we have to be living in

18:47

this victim mentality. Slow means that

18:49

we're taking our time to nurture

18:51

the activated parts of ourselves that

18:53

have needed our attention for so

18:56

long. And so when something terrible

18:58

happens to us as a child

19:00

or even in adult life, we

19:02

need it. It needs attention. It

19:04

can't be pushed past. And it's

19:06

in the spiritual space and in

19:08

the personal development space that people

19:10

can oftentimes get into this pattern

19:12

of spiritually bypassing the actual issue.

19:14

This is so good. And then

19:16

if you do that, right, or

19:18

you go on TikTok and go,

19:20

I need some positivity. And then

19:22

you're like, I'm just gonna, then

19:24

you may never actually heal the

19:26

thing. And it's not that we

19:28

wouldn't want to lean into the

19:30

possibility or lean into positivity. It's

19:32

exactly correct. You miss the miracle

19:35

if you try to override the

19:37

experience. How do you, this is

19:39

so good, this is going to

19:41

give someone permission today to be,

19:43

to just be, how do you

19:45

know, like how do you know

19:47

where you're at in that process,

19:49

this for everyone listening, watching, how

19:51

do you know when it's time

19:53

to go, oh, I'm ready to

19:55

kind of transcend. Well, I think

19:57

that. Every moment of titration into

19:59

the experience and opportunity to heal

20:01

is an expansion. It is a

20:03

trend. Yeah. Because it's not transcendence

20:05

as it means, okay, I'm in

20:07

perfect harmony right here right now.

20:09

It's about the glimmers of hope

20:11

and harmony. And as we, like

20:14

I said, the word titrate is

20:16

an important word. As we titrate

20:18

into the feelings or the sensations

20:20

or the experience or the parts

20:22

of us that are activated. And

20:24

then we do a little adjustments.

20:26

And then we can come out

20:28

and just live our lives and

20:30

maybe we want to do a

20:32

little like, you know, Instagram scrolling

20:34

or Netflix binging or whatever we

20:36

need to do. And then we

20:38

titrate in a little bit more

20:40

next day. And it's those little

20:42

moments of work. So it's about

20:44

not ripping off the band-aid, but

20:46

slowly opening the door. So it's

20:48

a slow pacing of. relief, right?

20:50

You don't want to just like,

20:53

you know, when you have a

20:55

pressure cooker, if you just turn

20:57

that pressure cooker on, it just

20:59

explodes, right? But if you let

21:01

it simmer, let it simmer, and

21:03

the tetrani is sort of like

21:05

an entering into the feeling and

21:07

then a release and then an

21:09

entering into the experience and then

21:11

a release. And then an entering

21:13

into the experience and then a

21:15

release. And so, you know, that's

21:17

why that's actually why, what's going

21:19

on in our life. good or

21:21

bad. There's parts of us that

21:23

can get really activated. So even

21:25

when good things happen, we might

21:27

have a part of us, it's

21:29

like, this is too good to

21:32

be true, and there's a self-sabotage,

21:34

right? Or if a bad thing

21:36

is happening, there's a part of

21:38

us, it's like, loves that victim

21:40

mentality. Or just living normal life,

21:42

there's parts of us that will

21:44

just control everything or be obsessing

21:46

over some kind of obsession because

21:48

we don't want to feel something

21:50

else. Uh, yeah,

21:52

all I'll notice granular details that

21:54

aren't perfect when I'm overwhelmed. There

21:56

you go. Yeah. So you seek

21:59

perfection when you feel overwhelmed. So

22:01

it's like a little bit of

22:03

a perfection. How can I control

22:05

something when everything else is out

22:08

of control? Yeah. Yeah. Very, very

22:10

familiar for most entrepreneurs, right? Is

22:12

we seek control to feel safe.

22:14

Yeah. And so I had a

22:17

controller part, which I'll just call

22:19

it a part of me. And

22:21

that part of me had been

22:23

around for many, many years, right?

22:25

And it was trying to keep

22:28

me safe ultimately, but it was

22:30

creating a lot of... issues, right?

22:32

So it might have been a

22:34

little aggressive at work or it

22:37

might have been a little bit

22:39

obsessive about things or, you know,

22:41

making things difficult in my marriage

22:43

and that controller really ran the

22:45

show for most of my life.

22:48

In fact, at one point it

22:50

was a need to control was

22:52

so extreme that it turned to

22:54

drugs to create that control, right?

22:57

And so that control is actually

22:59

a protection mechanism. And who is

23:01

that control protecting? For me? that

23:03

control protection mechanism has most of

23:06

my throughout my life, the majority

23:08

of my life, been protecting the

23:10

little girl who experienced trauma as

23:12

a child and had nowhere to

23:14

go with it. And the only

23:17

way that she could survive was

23:19

to try to control the experiences

23:21

and control the life that felt

23:23

so out of control. And as

23:26

a little girl, I did it

23:28

by freaking out about my pigtails

23:30

not being straight. And as a

23:32

teenager, I did it by being

23:35

completely anxious and trying to make

23:37

all the plans and know every

23:39

plan. 20-year-old, I was doing it

23:41

through cocaine and relationships and just

23:43

controlling all of the outcomes in

23:46

my work. And then in my

23:48

late 20s and 30s, I did

23:50

it through my work. And so

23:52

that controller isn't a bad part

23:55

of who I am. It's a

23:57

bad quality. It's a protection mechanism.

23:59

And so throughout this book, I'm

24:01

helping the reader recognize that. these

24:03

extreme patterns and behaviors that we

24:06

have, whether it's binging or drugs

24:08

or alcohol or control or businessiness

24:10

or rage or checking out with

24:12

enough. or dissociation, or even things

24:15

that might be seemingly great, right?

24:17

Those of us who are really

24:19

big workers, workaholism, is something that's

24:21

praised in our society, but it's

24:24

actually a protection mechanism, right? Because

24:26

if I'm working, I don't have

24:28

to feel those impermissible feelings. Or

24:30

if I'm in control, I don't

24:32

have to feel that things are

24:35

out of control, or I don't

24:37

have to feel the fear. And

24:39

so there's young exiled parts of

24:41

us that were traumatized as children.

24:44

and they were never tended to,

24:46

and we shut them down, we

24:48

said, I never want to feel

24:50

that again. It could also be

24:53

in adult experiences, like if you've

24:55

had, if someone's had violence or

24:57

if they've lived through a catastrophic

24:59

event, that's, they exile those feelings.

25:01

I never want to feel that

25:04

again. And so I'm going to,

25:06

you know, even spiritually bypassing as

25:08

a protector, and I'm calling it

25:10

a protector part. It's a part

25:13

of you. And so we have

25:15

all these parts of us inside

25:17

that are managing these big feelings,

25:19

the little children. And so what

25:21

do we do? We live our

25:24

lives from trigger to protector, trigger

25:26

to protector, trigger to protector. I

25:28

mean, anyone that's walking through life

25:30

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25:33

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25:35

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25:37

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25:39

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Together. And now more of this

27:55

incredible conversation together. We live our

27:57

lives from trigger to protector, trigger

28:00

to protector, trigger to protector. I

28:02

mean... anyone that's walking through life

28:04

feeling anxiety is anxiety is a

28:06

protector if we're living with if

28:09

we're living with just you know

28:11

we can't actually manage our feelings

28:13

or we're enraged or whatever it

28:15

is these are protection mechanisms we

28:18

numb through food or numb through

28:20

work numb through work so self-help

28:22

yes this is your chance to

28:24

change your life this is Gabby's

28:26

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28:29

you've got to grab it. I'm

28:31

so excited about this. And you

28:33

say self-help offers a revolutionary practice

28:35

to radically shift your core beliefs

28:38

and help you become your own.

28:40

inner healer, the book leverages the

28:42

teachings of internal family systems, IFS

28:44

therapy that you say has been

28:47

life changing for you. Oh my

28:49

gosh, let's dive in. We've already

28:51

started diving. Of course, I know.

28:53

I just shared is the beginning

28:55

of it. And so much in

28:58

the beginning, yeah, this whole conversation.

29:00

Yes. So ever you're picking up

29:02

in the conversation, for sure. So

29:04

many elements of the book. And

29:07

can you explain? for

29:09

everyone listening at home watching what this

29:11

book will do for that. So on

29:13

the the cover says self-help and then

29:16

the subtitle is this is your chance

29:18

to change your life. Yes. And I'm

29:20

going to stand behind that with full-body

29:23

conviction because the four-step practice that I've

29:25

created in this was based on a

29:27

therapy that changed my life, and it

29:30

was my mission, I went and got

29:32

trained in this therapy called Internal Family

29:34

Systems Therapy, and I got trained by

29:37

the IFS Institute, and with that training,

29:39

I knew it was my mission, literally

29:41

God told me, to democratize this work,

29:44

to take it out of the therapist's

29:46

office and give it to people in

29:48

everyday life. And maybe they will go

29:51

on to do IFS therapy, or maybe

29:53

they'll just use my four-step, step, self-help

29:55

practice that's informed by I F-IFS. really

29:58

what I started teaching. already, and I

30:00

know it will change their life if

30:02

they choose to do it. That's it.

30:05

And the four-step practice is exactly what

30:07

I've already begun to share. In IFS,

30:09

we are taught that we have these

30:12

young children, these little experiences that were

30:14

so these extreme experiences to little parts

30:16

of ourselves, any type of experience that

30:19

was too big for us to handle,

30:21

and we exile it. So that's called

30:23

the exiles. There's a little people inside

30:26

that we don't want to feel those

30:28

feelings ever again. And then we build

30:30

up the protectors, all the protection mechanisms.

30:33

We talked about the binging, you know,

30:35

overworking, controlling all the stories. And... We

30:37

live our lives and we're just like

30:40

why do I have chronic pain or

30:42

why do I have anxiety all the

30:44

time or why am I ruining my

30:47

marriage or why am I Making everybody

30:49

at my and my job hate me?

30:51

You know, what is it? Why like

30:54

we don't we or maybe we don't

30:56

even ask the why we're just sort

30:58

of like well This is who I

31:01

am and I deserve to be like

31:03

this and we're very righteous about these

31:05

behaviors or we are But I'm here

31:08

to tell everyone that these are just

31:10

parts of who you are that are

31:12

working really, really hard to numb impermissible

31:15

feelings from your past. And my addiction,

31:17

she worked hard. That addicted part worked

31:19

really hard to push it down. The

31:22

workaholic, she worked really hard. And they're

31:24

not bad parts of us. They've just

31:26

been put into extreme roles. And so...

31:29

The work in this four-step practice is

31:31

to bring self-energy, right? So we talked

31:33

about earlier, that God energy, that spiritual

31:36

presence, and self-energy is that inner parent

31:38

inside of us, the God within us,

31:40

the love within us, the truth within

31:43

us, the truth within us, is to

31:45

connect to these younger parts from that

31:47

self-energy. And so self to just simplify

31:49

it is just sort of this. energy

31:52

of these sea qualities, so calm, courage,

31:54

creativity, curiosity, connectedness, compassion, and confidence, and

31:56

these sea qualities that we have when

31:59

we're in our resource itself. And so

32:01

the steps are based on these qualities

32:03

and extending these qualities to these young

32:06

protection mechanisms inside of us. Let's say

32:08

you woke up this morning, Jamie, and

32:10

you were like, I'm in that controller

32:13

part. Okay, she's trying to get everything

32:15

done. She's making me a little crazy,

32:17

or you know, I'm feeling it. You

32:20

could practice it like this. You could

32:22

say, I'm going to choose to check

32:24

in. That's step one. I'm going to

32:27

choose to check in. I'm going to

32:29

choose to check in. And that's really

32:31

important. The choice is important. So you

32:34

have to just make sure, like, am

32:36

I in the mood to do this

32:38

right now? Okay? So choose to check

32:41

in, and that's when you just get

32:43

a yes inside, like, okay, I can

32:45

do this, and you focus your attention

32:48

inward. The second step is just curiosity.

32:50

So offering curiosity questions to that feeling,

32:52

or maybe you call it the controller,

32:55

maybe you just have a feeling inside,

32:57

and you just start noticing that experience

32:59

inside, and you start asking it questions.

33:02

Okay, what images or thoughts or sensations?

33:04

Do you want me to see right

33:06

now? Or how old are you? Or

33:09

is there a shape that you are?

33:11

Is there an energy that you are

33:13

in my body? Or where do I

33:16

hold this feeling in my body? And

33:18

why do you ask a question? You

33:20

want to become curious, instead of overriding

33:23

this part and just pushing past it,

33:25

and checking out more, you check in.

33:27

This is why it's called the four-step

33:30

check-in. So the curiosity lets this part

33:32

of you reveal information. And so it

33:34

might say to you, how old are

33:37

you part? And the part would be

33:39

like, I'm really young. How long have

33:41

you been around? I've been around forever.

33:44

And you start to flush out this

33:46

information. It might give you an image.

33:48

You might see yourself on the playground

33:51

when that kid was bullying you. Or

33:53

you just start to, it creates. connection,

33:55

right? Curiosity creates connection. So that extending

33:58

of curiosity to this younger part of

34:00

us creates a connection from our resourced

34:02

self to the part. And then the

34:05

third step is compassionate connection. And this

34:07

is where we would say, what do

34:09

you need? Asking that part of us,

34:12

what do you need? And it might

34:14

say, I need to rest or I

34:16

need to play. Or I need to

34:19

feel seen. I need to dance. Needs

34:21

to go back into its child role

34:23

that it was taken out of at

34:26

such a young age. And then once

34:28

it feels a little sense of that

34:30

compassion, I want to do it with

34:33

you. You'll check and you'll see. The

34:35

fourth step was, do I see those

34:37

sea qualities? And I see in your

34:40

eyes right now. that there's motion coming

34:42

through right now, because I think you

34:44

were doing the check-in with me. Doing

34:47

it with you. Yeah. I'm getting so

34:49

emotional, because while we're talking about controlling

34:51

stuff earlier, I'm thinking, okay, what is

34:54

the thing I often feel the most?

34:56

And I'm going through this step with

34:58

you, and you know, so, you know,

35:01

I write about self-worth, right? So the

35:03

thing that I often feel the most

35:05

is, oh, I'm not enough. That's sort

35:08

of where I go. what's so powerful

35:10

about what you just took us through

35:12

that I'm doing with you right now

35:15

is like okay you know I check

35:17

in it's like oh I feel I'm

35:19

not enough and when I ask you

35:22

know well what age what age are

35:24

you and I go right to like

35:26

little girl little girl and then when

35:29

you said the next you know you're

35:31

curious you say what age are you

35:33

what you know I literally see myself

35:36

right now as a little girl yeah

35:38

I see moments. When you ask her

35:40

what she needs, and it's slowing you

35:43

down a little bit, okay, because it's

35:45

easy to go right back into the

35:47

interviewer, but if we want to work

35:50

with this girl for one moment, if

35:52

you asked her what is she need,

35:54

what did she say, or do you

35:56

know what she says? That's the part

35:59

that got me emotional. When I ask

36:01

her, what does she need? Gabby,

36:04

I'm gonna cry. Yeah, bring

36:06

it on. Like, I just,

36:08

right away, I felt like

36:10

she's like, I just need

36:12

to be seen. I just need

36:14

to be seen. Like, I just

36:17

need you to just be

36:19

here with me and just

36:21

see me. Yeah. Does she feel

36:23

my presence with her?

36:25

Does she feel that I'm seeing

36:28

her right now? Yeah. It

36:32

feels great. It feels really

36:35

great. Does she feel a little

36:37

bit more calm? Yeah, and

36:39

also just like kind of

36:41

just hearing enough versus kind

36:44

of like looking everywhere else

36:46

to. Yeah, really locked in,

36:48

right? Yeah. Really, really locked

36:51

in. How else does she

36:53

feel? Describe it. And

36:55

it's kind of joyful

36:58

right now. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

37:01

Mm-hmm. When it was

37:03

interesting, when I saw

37:06

her, she's alone. And

37:08

I saw the ages,

37:11

like, like, four, six,

37:13

eight, alone. Does she

37:16

know that you're here

37:18

right now? Hmm.

37:20

That's a really

37:22

profound question.

37:28

I think so. I think

37:30

now she does. Yeah, I

37:32

think I've never ever

37:34

ever done this or

37:36

thought of this before

37:39

and this is really

37:41

powerful. How does she

37:43

feel towards you right

37:46

now? Mm. Like I'm

37:48

strong enough to have

37:50

her back. Mm. Yeah. Mm.

37:52

And I'm strong enough

37:55

to like hold her

37:57

hand. And

38:03

I'm strong enough to see

38:06

her. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you feel

38:08

any sensations of

38:11

compassion towards her? Yeah.

38:13

Yeah. Like literally my

38:15

whole heart is warm right

38:18

now. Nice. Nice. Nice.

38:20

Nice. Yeah. Yeah.

38:22

This is self-energy.

38:24

So that compassion

38:26

and that connection

38:28

that you're describing.

38:30

You're describing connection.

38:32

the safety that you

38:35

are establishing for her. Right?

38:37

That's that confidence.

38:40

These are the sea

38:42

qualities of self. And so

38:44

you're letting her, the little

38:47

girl, know that self is

38:49

here. And if she knows that,

38:52

now from this one

38:54

experience, she now knows

38:56

that she can check in. She

38:58

can check in. She can check

39:01

in. All day long,

39:03

she can check in

39:05

once a day, she can

39:07

check in whatever

39:10

she needs you. Because

39:12

she knows you're

39:14

here now. Mm. And

39:17

does doing this help

39:19

her feel safe

39:21

and protected so

39:24

that maybe I'm

39:26

not seeking that

39:28

elsewhere? Yeah, she feels

39:31

magnificent. She feels

39:33

magnificent, right? Like,

39:35

like her magnificence

39:37

is seen. Her

39:40

magnificence is seen. She's

39:42

just her girl. And she's

39:44

kind and she's like a

39:47

light. Yeah, uh-huh. Yeah, she's

39:49

free. She's free to be

39:51

a little girl. Yeah. This is

39:53

the work, baby. This moment

39:55

right here. is your chance

39:58

to change your life Jamie

40:00

because you're experiencing right here

40:02

in this moment That

40:05

she can know that you are

40:07

here that self is here

40:09

And that she's not

40:11

alone That she's seen

40:14

and that she's safe

40:16

And now she can

40:18

just exercise this practice

40:20

and just build more

40:23

and more trust in

40:25

this in this self

40:27

energy that you have

40:29

And the more she relaxes, the

40:31

less the protectors are on guard

40:33

all day. The protectors can say,

40:36

oh, okay, well, no, no, no, we've

40:38

got self. We've got Jamie, got self

40:40

with the capital S. We could always

40:42

go to self. And as we start

40:45

to accept that and know that,

40:47

whatever we're faced with, whatever

40:49

trigger comes to us, or the desire

40:51

to go act out, or even

40:53

an hour into doing the

40:55

extreme behavior, the extreme behavior.

40:58

Come back to self. There's

41:00

always a place to turn

41:02

to now. And the stronger

41:04

and more in practice we

41:07

get in this, the less

41:09

likely the protectors that

41:12

maybe come out in all kinds

41:14

of ways. don't need to be

41:16

there. The nice thing is, is

41:18

the protectors don't have to go

41:20

anywhere. They just need to take

41:22

a break. They just need to

41:24

relax. Because you know what, your

41:26

controller, Mama? Like my controller, Mama,

41:28

like my controller wrote 10 books

41:31

in 14 years. Like we need

41:33

her, right? But we just need

41:35

her to be a little less

41:37

extreme. Yeah. For me, it's always

41:39

been achievement, work addiction, food, those

41:41

three things. And these protectors can

41:43

stop being extreme, right? They can

41:45

take on their natural role.

41:48

Okay, so the achiever can

41:50

be in that natural leader

41:52

continuing to achieve, create, and

41:55

serve, right? And the controller

41:57

can run this big empire.

42:00

that you've been running

42:02

forever, including your family

42:04

and your home and your

42:07

world, and do it with ease.

42:09

And even the binging, right,

42:11

can now that it can relax,

42:13

what can it do now? It

42:15

can enjoy its food. It can

42:18

relish in tasting things and

42:20

can just really enjoy

42:23

the experience and nourish

42:25

you. It can nourish you. And

42:27

we transform, not because we

42:29

stop a behavior or force

42:31

ourselves or judge ourselves or

42:33

will ourselves into stopping. It's

42:35

because we befriend these parts

42:37

of ourselves. We befriend them.

42:39

We let them know that

42:41

they're not alone. We remind

42:43

them that they're safe. And

42:45

we really show them through

42:47

this four-step simple inquiry. There's

42:50

a presence of lots of

42:52

love and security inside. Gabby

42:55

Burns, Steve, just crying my

42:58

makeup off and saying. You

43:00

know, it still looks great.

43:03

Oh my goodness. The four-step

43:05

check-in process. And Gabby goes,

43:07

of course, so deep into

43:10

how to do this in

43:12

self-help, in self-help. And, you

43:14

know, I am... I first also want

43:16

to say... Thank you for that. For

43:19

that. I'm always here to see that

43:21

coming. I'm always here to check in

43:23

with you. Yeah, I know you are.

43:25

You're an amazing, you are an amazing

43:27

friend and I love to just throw

43:29

things out here because there's going to

43:31

be a lot of people also who

43:33

have already been impacted by your work

43:35

who are joining us right now and

43:37

you never know how people are behind

43:39

the scenes. And I'll never forget one

43:41

of the first times that we met

43:43

and I think I was launching my

43:46

very first book believe it. You know,

43:48

you are so generous and you're

43:50

like, oh, and I remember you

43:52

like promoted my event and you're

43:55

just so generous and

43:57

Not everybody is and I think

43:59

that it's It's just beautiful.

44:01

It's beautiful to

44:03

acknowledge when someone does amazing

44:05

in real life and behind

44:07

the scenes as people who

44:09

follow their work hope they

44:11

are. So I just want

44:13

to say thank you for

44:15

that too. When you mention

44:17

I'm always here for you.

44:19

I mean I mean you

44:22

start texting you be like

44:24

watch again. And this is

44:26

also just like. you know,

44:28

it's so congruent and that's

44:30

what's so beautiful. And with,

44:33

you know, with your journey so

44:35

far, you know, of all of it,

44:37

you know, manifesting spirit

44:39

guides, the course and miracles,

44:42

you know, IFS, and to

44:44

have the founder of IFS

44:46

write the forward for your

44:48

book, that is a really,

44:51

really big deal because

44:53

to... support it in a way

44:55

and say, oh, I'm actually not afraid

44:57

of someone else doing this. This is

44:59

actually really powerful and spot on and

45:01

I read his forward and it's beautiful

45:04

and he starts it out with tears

45:06

in his eyes. Oh goodness, he's a

45:08

very dear friend. I mean, that was

45:10

one of the greatest gifts I've ever

45:13

received in my life. You know, for

45:15

somebody who is maybe brand

45:17

new to your work. Can

45:19

they start and dive in?

45:21

Because we got 10 really

45:24

good books that Gabby's written

45:26

and all best sellers, several

45:28

number one, New York Times

45:30

best sellers. I remember long

45:32

before I even saw you

45:35

on a stage, people were

45:37

recommending your books to me.

45:39

But for someone who's

45:41

maybe brand new today,

45:43

is self-help a great book

45:46

to start with. Yeah, I think

45:48

that I would work backwards. Yeah,

45:50

because if you get this, that

45:52

all the manifesting books and all

45:54

of the spiritual books will just

45:56

lock in so much faster for

45:58

you. Because we. can we can

46:01

do all of the manifesting methods

46:03

and we can have all the

46:05

spiritual faith in the world and

46:07

all of that matters and it

46:10

counts and it gets us closer

46:12

and closer to consciousness and it

46:14

gets us closer and closer to

46:16

the healing modalities that we need

46:19

to get to this place of

46:21

knowing this self inside but if

46:23

you can start with self oh

46:25

my god like Work backwards people.

46:28

I spent 20 years figuring this

46:30

out for you So go backwards.

46:32

Yeah, yeah, I mean at the

46:34

same time I really think you

46:37

read it when you need it

46:39

And so if someone's like something

46:41

of a book's calling them or

46:43

sometimes books will fall off the

46:46

shelf or maybe I'll buy a

46:48

book like self-help It'll sit on

46:50

your shelf for a year and

46:52

then a year later you read

46:55

it. It's like it you read

46:57

it when you need it And

46:59

I look I put the cover

47:01

as self-help. It's for the willing

47:04

And so if that's too much

47:06

for somebody right now, don't push

47:08

it. Go read the universe as

47:10

your back. Go read Super Attractor.

47:13

It's okay, whatever feels right. Or

47:15

read Worthy, whatever they need. A

47:17

spirit junkie. I love you. You

47:19

keep a very spirit junkie. I

47:22

love it. And that's like a

47:24

big book. I, you know, right

47:26

now self-help is available anywhere. Anywhere

47:28

you get your books, anywhere books

47:31

are sold. Gabby also has, you

47:33

know, oh my gosh, first of

47:35

all. one of the most sought-after

47:37

keynote speakers in the world speaking

47:40

in on all types of stages

47:42

from big corporations to Oprah all

47:44

kinds of stages and and you

47:46

also have courses all of it

47:49

so can you share for everyone

47:51

in addition to picking up their

47:53

copy of self-help today where's the

47:55

best place that's just kept with

47:58

you and the best place is

48:00

get inside my Gabby coaching membership

48:02

app. It's an It's like having

48:05

me as your coach in your

48:07

pocket. So I'm going to make

48:09

sure that it's in your pocket

48:11

because what we just. There's actually

48:14

a whole self-help section. So there's

48:16

like 11 check-ins that I do

48:18

with the listener. So they can

48:20

actually do the check-ins with me.

48:23

But there's hundreds of meditations and

48:25

daily two-minute practices. And you can

48:27

pull an affirmation card. You can

48:29

get hundreds of meditations workshops. It's

48:32

literally like having me as your

48:34

coach in your pocket all year

48:36

long. And it's my way of

48:38

making these principles accessible to people

48:41

anywhere, any time. And I'm so

48:43

proud of it. Like we've been

48:45

a year in this technology space

48:47

and it's like a whole new

48:50

world for me to recognize what's

48:52

possible. And so yes, I would

48:54

just go to dear Gabby.com/app. Okay.

48:56

Dear Gabby.com/app. That's how they find

48:59

out. I feel like we need

49:01

to pull a card for you.

49:03

I'll just like wipe my tears

49:05

off while you're doing that. Let's

49:08

go into the Gabby coaching app.

49:10

Okay. and you're going to scroll

49:12

to the right and then tap

49:14

on a card and or scroll

49:17

to the left wherever you want

49:19

and I want to see what

49:21

card you pick. When I surrender

49:23

my will to the care of

49:26

spirit and the universe I attune

49:28

my energy with an ever-present stream

49:30

of well-being. Here we go. Let

49:32

me see the card. Yes ma'am.

49:35

When I surrender my will to

49:37

the care of spirit and the

49:39

universe, I tune my energy with

49:41

the ever-present stream of well-being. And

49:44

this is exactly what we've been

49:46

talking about. When you're in that

49:48

presence of self, you're in the

49:50

stream of well-being. When you're in

49:53

that presence of self, you're free.

49:55

And that's the secret to manifest.

49:57

So we started this conversation with,

49:59

how do I manifest? How do

50:02

I attract? That work we just

50:04

did, that four step process, put

50:06

you into the stream of well-being,

50:09

your own words. I feel magical,

50:11

I feel joyful, I feel free.

50:13

That is the energy that manifests

50:15

greatness. So that's the pathway in.

50:18

You know what I love so

50:20

much about our conversation is, you

50:22

know, everyone in my audience, just

50:24

like every audience has so many

50:27

different beliefs, somehow are very strong

50:29

and rooted in a particular religion

50:31

or faith. And you know, they're

50:33

all different. Some do not believe

50:36

at all. And I feel like

50:38

what you've done such a beautiful

50:40

job with is no matter what

50:42

your beliefs are. Here's how you

50:45

apply these tools and here's how

50:47

you apply this practice. Here's how

50:49

the book self-help. fits into your

50:51

life. Because for people who believe,

50:54

okay, I'm made in God's image,

50:56

then self-energy becomes that, right? For

50:58

people that believe. So I just

51:00

think this is beautiful and powerful

51:03

and I want to thank you

51:05

so much for this experience and

51:07

doing this live with you. This

51:09

is, um... So deep and so

51:12

personal, holy moly, so personal and

51:14

so deep. And you know, you

51:16

shared this earlier in the conversation

51:18

that we really truly can learn

51:21

so much from other people's stories.

51:23

And I think, you know, whether

51:25

it's you guiding me in this

51:27

beautiful experience and me doing the

51:30

four-step check-in and... bawling my eyes

51:32

out. Maybe someone at home is

51:34

doing alongside with us in their

51:36

own way and having a revelation

51:39

in their own journey or it's

51:41

them connecting with some other things

51:43

you shared that you've gone through

51:45

as well. I just think that

51:48

this is really powerful and I

51:50

want to thank you. I got

51:52

to tell you Jamie this is

51:54

one of my favorite interviews I've

51:57

ever done. I mean that. I

51:59

hope you can really feel it.

52:01

Ever. courage to go there and

52:04

your curiosity, it's all self-energy. And

52:06

then just sort of the spontaneous

52:08

experience of having self come through

52:10

is just everything. I'm so grateful

52:13

that our friendship has deepened in

52:15

this last hour and a half.

52:17

Oh my gosh, I never had

52:19

lights. on and off, but in

52:22

the middle of a show. Oh

52:24

my goodness. Everyone get your copy

52:26

of self-help and go to dear

52:28

Gabby.com and of course if you

52:31

want to get in the coaching

52:33

app go through all of the

52:35

check-ins and then all of it.

52:37

Dear Gabby.com/app. I love you. I

52:40

love you. If you love today's

52:42

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53:11

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53:22

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53:25

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53:27

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53:29

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53:31

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53:34

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53:36

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53:38

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If you love this incredible episode

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