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Yeah, give her. If

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people who were comfortable with their

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open relationship, which is better

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for keeping them together. And we

1:03

had some great phone calls.

1:05

One person we couldn't get to.

1:08

Hey, Jim, I've been listening to

1:10

you for years now. Uh, this

1:12

is why I feel comfortable doing

1:14

this, uh, in your presence. Okay.

1:21

Alright, thank you. I'm glad we played

1:23

that one. Uh, maybe not. Thank

1:25

you, though. I think, by the way,

1:27

you can do better than that

1:29

by sending us a talk, maybe not

1:31

sending us a talk back on

1:33

and through the app. Okay. If you

1:35

were listening to John Moore this

1:37

morning, they were talking about the shooting

1:39

of a 16 year old when

1:41

the police pulled over a car. Still

1:43

do not know why, but apparently

1:45

the back, uh, license plate was obstructed.

1:47

There were five, there were, there

1:50

were, uh, six people in the

1:52

car and there was no

1:54

front license plate. But the,

1:56

sorry, somebody had released a

1:58

body cam video that showed

2:00

the shooting. That's not

2:02

the way things are supposed to

2:04

work. I think a lot of

2:06

people are like, oh, that's not

2:08

how the SIU works. No, that

2:10

would not be how things usually

2:13

work in this system in terms

2:15

of if there's evidence. So

2:17

if you want to change it for the police,

2:20

If you agree with Jerry and

2:22

Amanda this morning, they think that

2:24

this information should be out

2:26

as soon as something like this

2:28

happens. Olivia Chow, the mayor.

2:30

That's outrageous. It is.

2:32

Yeah, I don't know who. Are we

2:34

going to find out who leaked it?

2:36

hope so. I hope so. There can't be

2:38

that many people that had access to

2:41

that footage. No, it would be either SIU

2:43

or the police. I can't imagine anybody

2:45

else because it looks like it came from

2:47

the body cam. So, I mean, the

2:49

cops... what do I know? But I mean,

2:51

I think everybody who's seen the video

2:53

thinks that the cops are going to be

2:55

exonerated. But maybe people would be like,

2:58

hey, why would that police officer need this

3:00

hanging over their head for however many

3:02

months before the SIU makes that decision? Well,

3:04

you know what? The same with any civilian

3:06

who gets themselves in trouble, who goes to court

3:08

and then is found innocent of whatever that

3:10

charge might be. Why

3:13

would it be any different? Why?

3:17

But Jerry thinks and maybe we

3:19

want this like any evidence should

3:21

be whatever the case is whether

3:23

it's a police officer or whether

3:26

it's a civilian all the evidence

3:28

gets out there for the court

3:30

of public opinion even though that

3:32

person won't go to trial for

3:34

What third 12 months if you're

3:36

lucky I like transparency I

3:39

mean, and I guess I have to come

3:41

from the perspective that if it's illegal for

3:43

the cops to do that, they shouldn't be

3:45

doing it. They should be lobbying for a

3:47

change in the law, which is what I

3:49

would do, because I think we could have

3:51

had all kinds of scenarios developed by all

3:53

kinds of people as to what took place

3:55

with the police killing a young man. And

3:57

after a while, it becomes what the what

3:59

the public believes. And, you know, a

4:01

year and a half from now, the

4:03

SIU comes out with some kind of statement.

4:06

Listen, am I being disrespectful to the

4:08

police if I say, yeah, but the same

4:10

with anybody? charged with anything like how

4:12

is that different is that

4:14

disrespecting the police because the

4:16

police aren't above the

4:18

law unless they

4:21

release a video

4:23

where I know this

4:25

guy would be this person

4:27

if it is a police officer

4:30

would be punished severely if and

4:32

when they find out who

4:34

released the video but I

4:36

Get it. Okay

4:38

that poor police officer and

4:40

I'm not I'm not trying

4:42

to minimize things when I

4:44

say that I'm not Trying

4:47

to Make light of a situation where

4:49

I do believe in this circumstance

4:51

people were defending their lives not

4:53

knowing what that person with that

4:55

gun would do the 16 year

4:57

old but Do

4:59

process that's the way it works and

5:01

it's the way to a certain

5:03

extent it works with civilians too

5:06

But I don't know if Jerry

5:08

is saying, hey, police are different.

5:10

We need to get them off

5:12

the hook earlier, which

5:16

I disagree with Amanda Galbraith as

5:18

well. More sunlight is good for everyone. It's

5:20

good for communities who are concerned about how they're

5:22

being policed. It's good for the rest of us who

5:24

are concerned about both, like, you know, myself, like,

5:26

the reputation of the police here in the city. I

5:28

know a lot of the time they're putting their

5:30

weight, they're putting themselves in harm's way. That's a very

5:32

difficult job. And I would not disagree

5:34

with that. Do

5:37

we want two rules of

5:39

law here? That

5:41

if a shooting, again, the SIU are only

5:43

going to be involved if the police are

5:45

around. But if there's

5:47

some sort of evidence, should

5:50

it all be released whenever

5:52

and not in a court?

5:56

There are different scenarios where I'm guessing

5:58

that you could get everybody all worked

6:00

up about whatever it is.

6:02

I don't think it always involves

6:04

the police, but you're talking

6:06

about a different rule for police.

6:09

It seems to me, Monty McGregor is a

6:11

criminal lawyer and he joins us right now. Monty,

6:13

thank you very much. I know you patiently hold

6:15

it held on and you're probably wondering if this

6:17

guy's ever going to get to you. Thank you

6:19

for your time. Not at all, Jim. It's always

6:21

a pleasure to be on and you're hitting a

6:23

lot of key points on a lot of the

6:25

questions that should be asked about what's happening here. Okay,

6:28

so I mean, Jerry and Amanda

6:30

earlier today, respectfully to them, they

6:32

think that perhaps the evidence should

6:34

be out there because it's unfair

6:36

to taint the reputation of this

6:38

police officer who I do believe and

6:40

I'm not the SIU was defending himself

6:43

and his fellow officers. But is that

6:45

the reason to release it when if

6:47

you're going to be doing that? aren't

6:49

you doing that with every case? Like,

6:51

do we believe, and I'll take some

6:53

phone calls later, that there should be

6:55

a different rule for police officers? Absolutely

6:58

not. I mean, the rule of law

7:00

that governs everything we do is that

7:02

everybody is treated equally under the law, no

7:04

matter who you are, how much you

7:06

earn, what your job is. So absolutely,

7:08

everybody's got to play by the same rules.

7:10

And when I was listening to you

7:12

talk, I was thinking it's about the

7:14

one year anniversary from the Umar Zemir,

7:17

not guilty verdict. And that was the gentleman

7:19

that ran over the police officer downtown.

7:21

And you'll remember that when he was

7:23

released on bail, there was such such upheaval.

7:25

by members of the government because they're

7:27

like how can this guy be released

7:29

and then at the end like and

7:31

his lawyer who I know personally tried

7:33

to get information out in the public

7:35

to help them understand the nature of

7:37

the case and it was not released

7:39

because we don't want cases decided in

7:41

the court of public opinion and the

7:43

only way you can look at this

7:45

police video, this body cam evidence, which

7:47

can be so crucial on every case

7:49

being released, is to put some sort

7:51

of positive spin on a police officer

7:53

shooting. So that's an example where a

7:55

member of the public was not afforded

7:57

the opportunity to say, hey, these are all

7:59

the circumstances about the Umar Zanir case,

8:01

and then he had to

8:03

wait for two years after he

8:05

gets bail on exactly the

8:07

standard that wasn't applied here, where

8:09

it's being released. And

8:12

I agree with the other person who

8:14

said, well, police officers have the most

8:16

difficult job. They take that job on.

8:18

And I have so much respect for

8:20

them for going into the public and

8:22

putting themselves in dangerous situations. But when

8:24

it comes down to adjudicating what they've

8:26

done, that's got to follow the

8:28

due process that everybody follows. That would be,

8:30

and it sounds like the argument here

8:32

is that because of that, and I

8:34

agree with you on that. that

8:36

they would get an easier way

8:39

out of perhaps jumping the line

8:41

on due process because I don't

8:43

know shortage of police officers bad

8:45

for the entire police forces reputation

8:47

because of one person who may

8:49

have been doing the job or

8:51

may have been rogue. But you

8:53

would have to extend that. That

8:55

would have to go to every

8:57

case murder case. If there was

9:00

video or evidence, it would all have

9:02

to be released into the court of

9:04

public opinion before it makes it into.

9:06

court of law, so it's not just

9:08

for police. It would be every case

9:10

if you want that. Right. And

9:13

that's a standard that can apply, Jim,

9:15

because when you come to court and you're

9:17

going to be a juror or a

9:19

trier effect on somebody's guilt or innocence, you

9:21

want to come into the court and

9:23

not have any preconceived notions about what happened

9:25

based on what you see in the

9:27

media. That's why there are publication bands on

9:29

bail hearings and things of that nature,

9:32

because you want somebody to come here and

9:34

not rely on anything that they hear

9:36

outside of the court to determine that person's

9:38

innocence. And that's why I would think

9:40

it would be extraordinarily to

9:42

allow a standard where information

9:44

is immediately publicized on

9:46

every case because, you know,

9:48

cases are vast in

9:50

their investigation, and they want

9:52

a lot of consideration of all factors

9:54

in determining whether or not somebody's

9:57

committed an unlawful act. Even here with

9:59

this officer, as you look at this video,

10:01

it seems to afford him a self -defense, but

10:03

that's not the end of it. The SIU

10:05

doesn't look at that video. Then

10:07

close it all off and say, OK, he hasn't

10:09

done anything wrong. I mean, maybe he shot too

10:11

many times. Maybe they were blanks in that gun.

10:13

Maybe something else happened before the detention. I

10:15

mean, these are all things that need to

10:17

be known before you've come up with the

10:19

complex ultimate determination of whether or not the

10:21

officer's done anything wrong. And he may very

10:24

well not. Monty, thank

10:26

you. Great insight. Appreciate it. Jim, it's

10:28

always a pleasure. You have a great day.

10:30

Thanks for having me on. Monty McGregor is

10:32

a barrister and solicitor, and he

10:34

is a criminal defense lawyer. Thank you very

10:36

much for your time. So I want to

10:38

take your phone calls on this. Do you

10:40

think the evidence should come out? Do you

10:42

think that in a case like this where

10:44

a police officer would perhaps have months, maybe

10:46

six months before they would decide whether or

10:49

not going to lay a charge that that

10:51

needs to be fast tracked? Is

10:53

it a good idea? Do you agree

10:55

with Jerry that these videos should be

10:57

released? 416 -872 -1010,

10:59

416 -872 -1010.

11:01

Yeah, I don't know who.

11:03

Are we going to find out who it? I

11:05

hope so. I hope so. There can't be that many

11:07

people who had access to that footage. No, it

11:10

would be either SIU or the

11:12

police. I can't imagine anybody else

11:14

because it's... It's talking about the video

11:16

from the body cam of the police

11:18

officer who shot and ended up,

11:20

I don't know the circumstances of... and

11:22

we don't know the names of

11:24

what officer but the end result in

11:26

that car that was pulled over

11:28

on Sunday with six people in it

11:30

that apparently had an obscured license

11:32

plate and no license plate on the

11:34

front is that a 16 year

11:36

old is dead. It

11:38

looks like to me

11:40

my opinion that the

11:42

police officer acted within his

11:45

right to defend himself and his

11:47

fellow officers. So that's not my question.

11:49

The outrage is about The

11:51

video being released and

11:53

so in upholding law somebody

11:55

has broken the law and

11:58

That either is important

12:01

or it's not important. I

12:03

Have a feeling that we're gonna

12:05

argue about this case. Well, it

12:07

should be released in this case

12:09

now It's either you want all

12:11

the evidence out all the time

12:13

in every case not just involving

12:15

police But if you think involving

12:17

police and only involving police that

12:20

they get a Short track on

12:22

how the system works and I

12:24

understand that charging a police officer

12:26

with yes I use a whole

12:28

different thing that if I get

12:30

charged for a murder But if

12:32

there is similar evidence out there

12:34

It's usually not disclosed until the

12:36

trial if it involves me So

12:38

you can't call me up and

12:40

say yeah, but in this case

12:42

blah blah blah. I don't care

12:44

There has to be a standard

12:47

The standard for charging police officers

12:49

works through the SIU and the

12:52

standard is that if that video

12:54

became important in if there were

12:56

charges ever laid That it would

12:58

be important in the court of

13:00

law But the lawyer that we

13:02

talked to Monty McGregor is right

13:04

that there would have been footage

13:07

of The dude who just wanted

13:09

to get away from people who

13:11

he thought was mugging him in

13:13

the underground parking on

13:15

Canada Day a couple of years ago and

13:17

ended up running over a police officer. And it

13:19

turns out that all of the evidence, I

13:21

don't want to say the police officers were lying,

13:23

but they were not telling the truth. And

13:26

why wasn't that leaked? So

13:31

my question is for

13:33

you, are you okay with

13:35

that? Because

13:37

if we're going to say the evidence

13:39

for every trial, all of this should

13:41

be out there all the time in

13:43

the court of public opinion, then that's

13:45

cool. But if you're

13:47

going to call me up and split

13:49

hairs about this one case, it's not

13:51

about this one case. And that's why

13:54

I found like Jerry talking about, yeah,

13:56

you know, you got to clear the

13:58

cops really quickly because it's hanging over

14:00

their head. Everything is hanging over our

14:02

head for civilians charged with stuff. So

14:05

we're either good with all of it or

14:07

good with none of it. Is that nuts? And

14:11

I think you might be able

14:13

to convince me of a double

14:15

standard why it might be important

14:17

to clear a police officer because

14:19

maybe it's painting the entire police

14:21

force with a bad brush. Is

14:24

that your argument? Because you could maybe bend my

14:26

ear on that and I could change my mind.

14:29

But if you're like well look

14:31

he did the right thing

14:33

here, so it should be released

14:35

And we're not picking and

14:38

choosing policies based on what our

14:40

eyeballs see from day to

14:42

day there has to be a

14:44

policy and It can't just

14:46

be for cops am I am

14:48

I wrong? 416

14:50

8 7 2 10

14:52

10 416 8 7

14:54

2 10 10 here's

14:56

Carlos Carlos go ahead

15:02

Carlos, dude, where are you? Okay,

15:06

I'll come back to Carlos.

15:08

Greg, go ahead. Hey,

15:10

Jim, I just wanted to say. Are

15:14

you on topic? A

15:16

16 year old. Are you on

15:18

topic? I know what you're

15:20

worried about. I'm worried about you not going on topic,

15:22

but go say whatever you want to say. You want

15:24

to say a 16 year old with it. It's not

15:27

the topic, but go ahead. Why

15:30

is society allowing a 16 year old

15:32

to have a handgun and why isn't the

15:34

law doing something about it to begin

15:36

with? We wouldn't have this conversation if we

15:38

had tougher criminal laws. And I bet

15:40

you tend to one that 16 year old

15:42

has prior convictions and why are them

15:44

or six of them in the car with

15:46

wrong license plates? Okay, they're up

15:48

to no good. Anyways, these police officers are

15:50

heroes. I have three of them in my this

15:52

is not the question, dude. I agree that

15:54

this police officer is a hero. It's not the

15:57

question. Um,

15:59

if we had this society

16:01

that wouldn't allow this stuff to

16:03

happen, we wouldn't be having

16:05

this conversation. That's the point. Okay.

16:07

I care about that. Oh,

16:09

it's six years with the head.

16:11

We do that topic all

16:13

the time. Come on. We do.

16:15

We do those topics all

16:17

of the time, all the time

16:19

when it comes to shooting

16:21

shootings with young people and, um,

16:24

I don't disagree with that

16:26

guy, but that is not the

16:28

question. The question is

16:30

for people who are like, yeah, the

16:32

video should be released. Okay,

16:34

convince me that that's

16:37

how our system should

16:39

work all of the

16:41

time, not just when

16:43

it is a front

16:46

burner police shooting. That

16:48

is one of the

16:50

most alarming things that

16:52

I've seen on video

16:54

in policing in Canada

16:56

since Sam Utein Convince

16:58

me that this is

17:00

the way that it

17:02

should be Convince me

17:04

that it should be

17:06

different for police officers

17:08

That's what the topic

17:10

is Why

17:13

is it different for police officers than if

17:15

I committed a crime and there was some sort

17:17

of video? And

17:20

maybe, like, I think there is a

17:22

real, like, if people are marching in the

17:24

streets and they're angry at the cops

17:26

and they don't know what happens, that's a

17:28

good compelling reason to say, yeah, okay,

17:30

maybe there's a double standard that I don't

17:32

understand and there should be a faster

17:34

track to clearing police officers. And

17:36

we do have, air all the

17:38

evidence in the court of

17:40

public opinion. And

17:43

because I mean the problem right

17:45

now is that the system is so

17:47

slow that if you don't get

17:49

to a court in 16 months and

17:51

You have baked in let's say

17:53

I don't know what a different scenario

17:55

would be but let's say you

17:57

have baked in like yeah The cops

17:59

did the right thing, but there

18:01

was another video that didn't get released

18:03

in this scenario can't think of

18:06

something that would disqualify the what what

18:08

our eyeballs have seen but If

18:11

there was, and it's baked in that

18:13

this cop did that example, I don't want

18:15

to use this as an example, but

18:17

there's a different scenario and it's baked in

18:19

that what our eyeballs saw, there couldn't

18:21

be any other explanation. And for

18:23

16 months, that's what the narrative is. And then

18:25

there's a different video that shows us something

18:27

else. That's why we don't

18:29

allow that video out. So

18:32

in a nutshell, to

18:34

say, yeah, we got to clear these

18:36

videos and put them out there. It's

18:39

not how the system works. Here's

18:41

Darren on news talk 10 10

18:43

Darren. I Understand

18:45

the frustration. Hi. Thanks for picking

18:47

my call I understand the frustration

18:49

of last caller and I with

18:51

all due respect to the incredible

18:53

work that please do and how

18:56

dangerous it is I have to

18:58

agree with you if we don't

19:00

have a standard What what what

19:02

do we have left? I think

19:04

that releasing the body cam whoever

19:06

did it and it was wrong

19:08

to do it really has to

19:10

do with your last comment which

19:13

is a lack of faith that

19:15

the police have in how quickly

19:17

these... If it's so, does every

19:19

wrongly charged person, right?

19:21

I know maybe there's not tons of them,

19:23

but the system says everybody's innocent until you're

19:25

proven guilty. So if we're

19:27

going to, like the police say, hey,

19:29

we're convicted in the court of

19:31

public opinion unless people see this, same

19:34

with all of us. So the

19:36

system either changes for everybody or it

19:38

doesn't change for the police as

19:40

far as I'm concerned. I

19:42

wanted to put a panel together

19:44

about the final days. of this

19:46

election and what we see going

19:48

on, some of our thoughts with

19:50

some of our most fond pundits

19:52

are on the way. It's 531,

19:54

News Talk 1010, time saver traffic. The

20:14

voting early thing

20:16

is like the best.

20:19

Get it out of the way so

20:21

you can sit back and enjoy all

20:23

of the... Although I feel like this,

20:25

this may be a bad analogy because

20:27

maybe you don't follow sports. I always

20:30

love the awkwardness of the covering of

20:32

the NHL trade deadline day when you

20:34

have to sit back and watch because

20:36

it's great broadcasting when you can talk

20:38

for 12 hours nonstop when there are

20:40

no trades. It's a real gift. And

20:42

I wonder what election day is going

20:44

to be like. I think it's going

20:47

to be one of these ones that

20:49

we might not know until maybe the

20:51

next day. Perhaps I'm wrong. We're joined.

20:53

right now in the last days of

20:55

this election wanted to put together a

20:57

panel today. We'll do another one tomorrow. Tim

21:00

Powers, chairman of Summa Strategies

21:02

and managing editor of Abacus, a

21:04

job that I used to have, and

21:07

Bob Richardson, News Talk 1010

21:09

contributor and public affairs consultant. Guys, thank

21:11

you very much for your time. Greetings.

21:13

to see you here, Jim. What

21:16

would you guys say? Do you

21:18

find anything interesting? Do you find

21:20

this last week boring? What's going

21:22

on first you Tim? Well,

21:25

I'm on route to

21:27

watch your Leafs lose to

21:29

my senator interesting

21:33

thing today. But what

21:35

has been interesting in the

21:37

last couple of days

21:39

is watching the stories come

21:41

out about Paulie potentially

21:43

losing his riding. Yet,

21:45

at the same time, different stories suggesting the

21:48

conservatives still feel they have momentum. I can

21:50

tell you, and Bob would know this, too,

21:52

because he spent a lot of time in

21:54

Ottawa. If Pierre Polyev is

21:56

actually losing his riding, then

21:58

Monday night is going to be a

22:00

terrible night for the conservatives. I still

22:02

find the story a little hard to

22:05

believe, but I'm told there's some accuracy

22:07

to it. Could that be just a

22:09

dirty politics thing that somebody is planting

22:11

because it helps make people feel bad?

22:13

But I don't know. think that that

22:15

would have the opposite. If the Liberals

22:17

were just planting that, wouldn't it force

22:19

more conservatives to go out and vote?

22:22

But it's not the Liberals who

22:25

are planting it. It seems to

22:27

be coming from Queens Park. Oh,

22:31

interesting. Bob? The

22:33

plot thickens, but yeah, I

22:36

wouldn't put too too much credence

22:38

in that story I still

22:40

think mr. Paul I have will

22:42

probably win the riding by

22:44

seven eight points But the liberal

22:46

candidates been nominated for over

22:48

two years. He's banged on tons

22:50

of doors They're out there.

22:52

They're working hard. The liberal vote

22:54

will definitely be up. Can

22:56

he catch the guy? I don't

22:59

think so, but he's a

23:01

he's a formidable campaigner and he's

23:03

and he's doing pretty well

23:05

And by the way, when I'm

23:07

done on this show... I'm

23:09

going up to the local pub

23:11

to watch the Leafs whoop

23:13

the Senators tonight for D3. All

23:15

right. Let me ask you

23:17

guys, though, if it is planted

23:19

by, I don't know, it sounds

23:21

like you're suggesting alleging maybe the

23:23

whispers from the Queen's Park people,

23:25

maybe the Cory tonight crowd. Why

23:27

would you want to float that

23:29

if it's going to blow up

23:32

in your face, Tim? Well,

23:34

I don't think they think it's

23:36

going to blow up in their face

23:38

because Mr. Poliev, excuse

23:41

me, hasn't done a great job

23:43

to understate it of building Allied

23:45

ship among a bunch of others.

23:47

You know, it's not just Doug

23:49

Ford. It's Tim Houston and Nova

23:51

Scotia. So I think again

23:54

it's part of the narrative that

23:56

those who would like to see

23:58

Mr. Polly have failed are putting

24:00

out there that he's had every

24:02

chance to win this thing and

24:04

he can't win it. It's a

24:06

long game story instead of a

24:08

short game one. Bob, is it

24:10

a story that Carney it's alleged

24:12

and I don't think it's a

24:14

fair allegation? didn't portray

24:16

his conversation with Trump accurately.

24:18

People are now hearing, oh,

24:21

he did bring up 51st state. And

24:23

Carney, after that phone call with

24:25

Trump when he was made prime minister,

24:27

said that he had respect for

24:29

sovereignty. I think you can have an

24:31

overall conversation where the takeaway was

24:34

that he has respect for sovereignty and

24:36

still think, hey, I want to

24:38

bring up the 51st state thing. I

24:40

don't think it trumps that the

24:42

overall tone might have been respectful. but

24:44

is there any gotcha there? I

24:46

don't think there is. I don't think

24:48

there is. Look, there'll be

24:50

three or four of these stories

24:52

before we get to the deadline on

24:54

Monday. It's sort

24:56

of silly season for the last

24:58

72 to 96 hours, and

25:01

that's what we're heading into here.

25:04

He could have sent

25:06

it in passing, and

25:09

Carney decided just to give it a pass and

25:11

move on to other issues. We

25:14

don't know what the context is of

25:16

it. I don't think there's any gotcha

25:18

here, but You know, it's it's better

25:20

to disclose these things than not. Carney

25:22

might have left himself a little bit

25:24

more, a little bit vulnerable here, but

25:26

I do not see this as a

25:29

major issue. When we look at some

25:31

of these polls, the Nanos one, I

25:33

know, I don't know what your recent numbers

25:36

that advocates are saying, Tim, what are they

25:38

saying? 4037, 4037. Wow. So

25:40

that's closer than the Nanos one,

25:42

which is, I think still, well,

25:44

this margin of error. Do

25:46

you think there's any reason for

25:49

that? I see on the campaign

25:51

trail, Carney kind of sticking

25:53

to the Trump kind of thing

25:55

and it seems like Pierre is

25:57

like alive and bringing up new

25:59

policies and maybe that's hitting people,

26:01

I don't know. That

26:06

could be it, but I think

26:09

he really, where he has, he being

26:11

Pierre, in this case, has the

26:13

opportunity, seems to be

26:15

still around change, change, change.

26:18

And what did he say? 57

26:20

times yesterday, apparently. He's

26:22

got a... Heighten the rhetoric a little

26:24

bit around that and the fourth term stuff.

26:26

If he's going to make gains, he's

26:28

got to get back into those people who

26:31

believe, you know, they don't want a

26:33

fourth term of the liberals and that there

26:35

really is change coming with Pierre Polyev.

26:37

He's not going to win on Trump and

26:39

he's probably not going to win on

26:41

a line by line policy. The way you

26:43

bring policy out in the last few

26:45

days is very specifically targeted at different voting

26:47

cohorts and or writing. So that's why

26:50

that's happening. You don't sense that

26:52

they're getting closer. What is your take on

26:54

it, Bob? I think

26:56

the Liberals are still

26:58

probably somewhere around 180,

27:00

185 seats. People forget

27:02

it's not the popular vote, it's

27:04

seats that matter. So liberals

27:06

ahead in the Atlantic, in Quebec, in

27:09

Ontario, in Winnipeg, competitive in

27:11

some seats in Calgary and Edmonton,

27:14

and doing better than they have

27:16

ever done in British Columbia. You

27:18

total that all up, you get

27:20

roughly 180, 185 seats. And that

27:22

really hasn't budged for a couple

27:24

of weeks now. Okay, Tim, in

27:26

the final days here, what do

27:28

you think we'll see from both

27:30

sides? Sorry, I'm discounting the NDP. Mr.

27:34

Singh is going to file a complaint with

27:36

Bell Media. What are we going to see in

27:39

the final days? A heavy

27:41

push from the Liberals in Ontario. Maybe

27:43

one quick sort team to Quebec, though

27:45

I'm not sure that they will do

27:47

that. Their opportunity now, because Quebec and

27:49

Atlantic are lining up nicely for them

27:51

is in Ontario. And Mr. Polyev is

27:53

going to play defense in Ontario and

27:56

maybe touch a couple of areas where

27:58

he thinks he can win a seat.

28:00

What about you, Bob? The

28:02

Liberals will be charming and

28:04

aerodite for the next four

28:07

days Everybody's dad and a

28:09

corny will be everyone's dad

28:11

and everyone's good friend and

28:13

We will be smiling incessantly

28:15

to secure your vote While

28:18

you guys are enjoying the

28:20

game I will be off

28:22

at the Skydome or the

28:24

Roger Center enjoying the enter

28:27

the Sandman concert with the

28:29

Metallica orchestra so Enjoy

28:32

the game, and thank you very much

28:34

for your time. We really appreciate it.

28:36

Thanks, Jim. I promise to text you

28:38

updates of how you're losing, OK? OK,

28:40

please do. All right.

28:42

All right. In a moment,

28:44

I didn't think that anybody

28:47

would ever have a, I

28:49

just brought up to Ben I was saying. There's

28:52

certain things that I buy that I

28:54

can't figure out like I'll buy bananas when

28:56

they're green and they're like Yeah, I

28:58

gotta check back with you bananas in three

29:00

four five days to make sure when

29:02

the bananas are like or avocados or buy

29:04

avocados and then like now they're gone

29:07

now They're not ripe any longer or pears.

29:09

I love pears, but it takes a

29:11

while for a pear to be Juicy and

29:13

not break a teeth on are there

29:15

any other things that you buy and you're

29:17

like I got to wait a couple

29:19

of days. I want a juicy pear right

29:21

now, but the pair is not ready.

29:23

Are there anything other things that you buy?

29:25

And does anybody like will set a

29:27

calendar reminder to check the pairs? I thought

29:30

that was ridiculous, but we'll hear from

29:32

somebody who does that in a moment. 545

29:34

and News Talk 10 10

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Talk 10 10 Toronto is different

29:43

than any election, certainly in

29:45

my lifetime. It's about who's going

29:47

to stand up. best to

29:49

President Trump. That's a little bit

29:51

of Mark Carney there. I

29:53

bring that up because I'm looking

29:55

at some of the polls

29:57

and Nick Nanos is on our

29:59

sister's station right now talking

30:01

to Vashigopellos and their numbers are

30:04

interesting in that I think

30:06

you've heard the discussion over the

30:08

last little while in the

30:10

conversation that Vashigopellos was having earlier

30:12

today. The numbers from Nanos

30:14

have the liberals up by... 32

30:18

.9 and the

30:21

Conservatives at 39%.

30:23

Man, that is

30:25

amazing. Not

30:27

that the Conservatives have

30:29

39, but you could have

30:31

39 and be in

30:34

second place in a country

30:36

where sometimes high 30

30:38

is, and I mean 37

30:40

.8 means a majority most

30:42

of the time because

30:44

the NDP have

30:46

double digits. But in

30:48

the latest polling here, it's

30:51

42 .9 to 39

30:53

.3. The NDP

30:55

have 7 .2. And

30:58

that seat projection

31:00

from Nanos, just on

31:02

with Vashe moments ago, does not

31:04

have a liberal majority. It

31:07

takes 172, 172 seats to

31:09

have a majority. Nanos

31:11

has the seat projection

31:13

at 170 to 99 and

31:15

the NDP only having

31:17

two seats that That would

31:19

be shocking but also

31:21

please keep that in mind

31:23

for the I don't

31:26

believe the polls crowd because

31:28

the polls clearly are always changing. And

31:30

that is a poll to keep in

31:32

mind when you're like, oh, the polls

31:35

were wrong. Well, that one shows that

31:37

the liberals aren't going to win a

31:39

majority if that's what you're quoting going

31:41

into the race. And it's also to

31:43

say that many of them are pretty

31:45

tight. Abacus was

31:47

40, I think 43,

31:49

42. So

31:51

it's insanely tight.

31:54

Whatever party you're gonna vote for

31:56

please do that because maybe

31:58

it's not gonna be one seat

32:00

there That could have gone

32:02

one way because some people decided

32:04

to stay home. I

32:07

I'm wondering does anybody

32:09

have a a Thing

32:11

that they do for

32:13

and I was asking

32:15

people what other fruits

32:17

and or vegetables fall

32:19

into the category of

32:21

when you buy them

32:23

across the street at

32:25

this no frills. It's

32:28

not that it's particular to

32:30

this grocery store, but the bananas

32:32

are always green. They're

32:34

not yellow. Yeah, no kidding. When you buy

32:36

them, they're green. You have to wait a

32:38

while for them to get yellow. I seem

32:40

to buy them when they're green. Forget about

32:42

them. Miss the yellow window, and it goes

32:45

right to brown. And

32:47

the same with avocados, I love

32:49

buying pears, but they're as hard as

32:51

a rock when you buy them.

32:53

And by the time that they're in

32:55

that perfect, juicy sweet spot, I

32:58

forget about them and it goes too

33:00

late. So

33:03

does anybody have

33:05

any, maybe you

33:07

put them in a place that you're gonna

33:09

see them all the time, you're not gonna

33:11

forget about them. Does anybody have a go -to,

33:13

I don't know if you wanna call it

33:15

a trick? But Ben

33:17

When Ben told me this I

33:19

did not well I don't

33:21

know that there's anybody else out

33:23

there that does this that

33:26

when you buy bananas you put

33:28

it in your calendar to

33:30

check bananas on your device. You

33:32

go into your device on your

33:34

calendar, check bananas in two days

33:36

when they are going to be

33:38

perfect. I'm like, I'm the worst

33:40

shopper because, you know, they say

33:42

if you go shopping hungry, I

33:44

go shopping and I'm like, I'd

33:46

like a banana now. So I

33:48

buy green bananas and then I

33:50

forget about them. But Ben you

33:52

honestly do this you buy avocados

33:54

and you'll put it in your

33:56

calendar check avocados in two days

33:58

Jim I use the notes app

34:00

and I a list of when

34:03

I need to cook things by

34:05

when I need to use things

34:07

by I am very very very

34:10

attentive to what's in my fridge. I

34:12

can tell you what's in my fridge

34:14

right now, what I'm going to use,

34:16

when I'm going not even a smart

34:18

fridge. Smart fridges will do that, I

34:20

think, but this is just you. You're

34:22

unpacking your groceries and you're entering it

34:24

into your phone. I've got

34:27

bananas. Sorry, I've got... or

34:29

you've got whatever the best before

34:32

date on this steak is Saturday or

34:34

the 26th or whatever Saturday is

34:36

that's what you do Basically, yeah, I

34:38

can tell you at any point

34:40

what I need to use how I'm

34:42

going to use it I meal

34:44

plan I meal prep my biggest pet

34:47

peeve is letting food Yeah,

34:49

me too. But I

34:51

do it quite often because I'm lazy, and

34:53

I'm like, oh, I'm buying groceries this week, and

34:55

then I'm having eating out. I'm eating out

34:57

again. I'm eating out again. Let's

34:59

take a couple of phone calls on whether or

35:01

not people have, like, I don't know, there

35:03

needs to be a banana app. Check your bananas

35:05

now. Sue, do you have

35:08

a, and maybe I'm the only

35:10

one who doesn't, and this happens, Sue, do you

35:12

have a way that you prevent this kind

35:14

of stuff? I mean,

35:16

I've got two teenagers in the house that will

35:18

eat me out of my fridge. But

35:20

I have to have a system

35:22

where less is actually more. So I

35:24

will always pick up bananas and

35:26

one other consumable fruit right away. So

35:28

I know that they are going

35:31

to have to wait on those bananas.

35:33

But they can eat the strawberries right away.

35:35

And so they'll take two days to

35:37

eat the strawberries. And I've now

35:40

given time for the bananas to

35:42

ripen, or it'll be like with

35:44

the avocado. I love that. So

35:46

you're buying an eat now thing and something

35:48

for later in the week. So you know it's

35:50

going to be there, and they won't eat

35:52

it when it's not ready. Exactly

35:54

and there isn't like five other

35:56

things that they can choose from because

35:58

that often becomes the too Like

36:01

if you have and bananas, and you've

36:03

got strawberries, you know they're always

36:05

going to go for everything and then

36:07

the bananas or the avocados or

36:09

whatever end up by you know dying

36:11

on the counter there So with

36:13

avocados I usually pair them up with

36:16

like cucumbers or tomatoes and it's

36:18

like well yeah, some stuff here but

36:20

good to know guys. Thank you. Good

36:23

idea. Thanks to

36:25

Ben and also to

36:27

Mike. I'm Jim

36:29

Richards. Go Leafs, go. Enjoy

36:32

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