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regular humans the right i saw for stopping by
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was like have escaped actually with fire
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racist morning
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, man how are you on great
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things happened your things happened so floater
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on twitter yesterday and you immediately
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became a mean i went back and watched part
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of the speech he did of the as a as in tampa
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and was amazing and a new smoke
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truth to power in that when
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we see these videos of women better
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pushing for more abortions pushing
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for so called women's reproductive i health
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rights arm they generally speaking
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i'm or the runway model that we would see
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per se but you said what
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we thought out loud and loud and
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are unabashed about it will fill me in had you
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just had enough of playing around with
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no these people
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who show up like cheering
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on
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murder
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hearing on the destruction of a life they
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are the lowest form of protester
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right i mean like people show up protest to the environment
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maybe like one around a hacky sack
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or a drum circle and any get like the
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human rights crowd the you know about what's going
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on and dar for whatever the outrageous
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you as of the day split to show
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off there's you you believe
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that the destruction of life is some sort
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of positive thing is it was
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just the worst to me and i think
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that when you're that ugly on the inside
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it manifests on the outside now
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isn't afraid to say so and you did say so
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and i appreciate that because ah
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you've got people covering this and they're they're
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obviously avoiding the the obvious
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on it's evident that if you said
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to somebody well why are you worried about this
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she'd have to give an answer a and the it's
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your wouldn't be because you know i'm
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i'm having a lot of sad the lot of really great looking
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people theater would be because eighty
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something to fight for because i have no job because
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you know i i really have no life other than in mom's
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basement on the computer but you again
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said it out loud and a reporter
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as enterprising reporter decide to come up to make gates
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and ask about this and want to play this piece video
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the paper say that be some of your comments
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i'm just saying that these women out these
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abortion rallies are ugly and overweight
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yes
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what do you for the people who think that those comments are offensive
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be offended and respect simplicity man
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weekly or week we can be offended by
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the fact that we want to kill unborn children we
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can be offended that that forty percent of the
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aborted children are black in this country
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and black lives matter doesn't care you
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we should be offended that you call them fat
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mowgli fill me in yeah i
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just think there's an exhaustion right now with
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the cancel culture in this notion that like
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every take has resulted everyone
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clutching their pearls and so i just
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sort of dismissed the question and mean i'd i'd
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observes what i observed i a
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lot though people liked one call me a massage
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nurse and wanna try to smear me like
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they don't actually argue with my underlined
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contention like a haven't seen the
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internet react with some wave
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of light of the you know a d attractive
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people who are out there chanting for
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murder for right in strikes tucker
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carlson and i get a lot of criticism
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about the great replacement theory was
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actually from our perspective doesn't have anything to
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do with race race and yet like
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maybe what we need to replaces like both white
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women in this country added see a single guatemalan
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marching outside of john kavanagh us house of
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if they were there were there actually very busy are
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probably going to work and jobs at americans will
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do it's magic is when republicans
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the great state of florida gates that house dot gov
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nice firebrand check out his podcast
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firebrand get his book also com firebrand
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when there's this guy who represents
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mike pence note man i interview a lot of
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people have had trump on eleven times i've
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had mike pence on once it was during the campaign
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and in fifteen or sixteen nice guy
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i thought it was a pretty good representative pretty good radio
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talk shows in fact in india what
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he did it but i don't get what he'd where
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he's getting this alleged power that
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that i guess he's feeling as though he could be the face the
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republican party want to give you on this
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this dweeb i'm i'm nervous guy's name is always see
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it and or msnbc as i cnn and
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the reports is the host is doing this as
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if it's really important illicit of his guys on
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a here's a you had to say when asked about your
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comments that mike pence will not be
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the next post
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wow out on love my pencil run for president
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dwight way for but i don't think
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my case i have an impact on that fact
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i'd be surprised if you're still voting is more
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likely still be in prison for a child
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sex trafficking by twenty twenty four
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i'm actually surprised the for the law enforcement
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so out on the speaker teenage conferences
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like that so i'm not to worry about mackey
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to lose this guy it would is is problem
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with you because he eats he didn't really address
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the question at all he decided to make it an
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attack and mack gates it sounds
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like i hit a nerve with my fists
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games fall like they can go to cnn
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which by the way as a media organizations
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there was literally caught on camera
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by project their tasks saying that there
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were animating lies about me to try
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to propagandize my life right because
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i'm an effective congressmen was like
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of course at cnn the kind of platforms
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this nonsense but what they can't
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dispute is that that
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was my best applause line of that speech your
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they can begin repeat de bont
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conspiracies and lies about me but
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what mike pence in his political hacks
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tend to not in any way disputes
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is that the people in that audience the activists
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the people to go out and win elections in the diff
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or define the ideas of our party
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they reject mike pence they don't want him
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to be the leader of our movements and i think mike
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pence is going to find that very frequently
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out on the campaign from the thing i don't get mad
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and and when the allegations came out you immediately
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when i'm tucker you are my show two or three days later
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you in for direct questions about with the reality
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of the situation about bribes that we're going
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on about this investigation it was being we'd
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nothing obviously has stuck because
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it's not true so why did he get away
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with continuing to make these allegations about
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you mean is that libel is that slender a
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is or it's are you immune or is he immune
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because you're a public figure it's one of people
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keep doing this unfortunately
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in the united states you can pretty much
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say anything you want about a public figure and
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it's very difficult to hold people
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accountable because of the actual malice standard
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but folks should still i think mine their p's
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and q's and you know the last
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person who talked like
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our shores
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ended up pleading guilty to a criminal
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shakedown that involved my family so
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such roof and mine are it's mack gates
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are of course this is one republican the great state of
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florida are met when it comes to mike pence
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he's reminiscent now of mitt romney of
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lose cheney of adam kinsey your why
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is there this division allegedly
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the republican party america should the republicans i'm a
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conservative a madness oh we're republican senate
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very conservative because the very wishy washy
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and their argument is never here's how i
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see america in the next generation
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their argument is trump bed gates bad
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mtg bad maybe two pieces
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argue but it's not going to work on for
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anybody who's are true conservative and they want
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america to be first one easing the keep
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doing this and the left never does it's
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our ideas that fill the stadiums
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and that animate the people who actually
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make up our party you
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know the unit party that i think poses
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a great threat to the contrary it's no longer
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the red team against the blue team's it
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is the establishment against the rest
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of us and that establishment includes people
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like liz cheney and adam
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kinsey or and it also includes democrats
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like nancy pelosi and chuck schumer
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and so are we have to have that populist
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energy that america first spirits
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and we as to show it in terms of the
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policies that we embrace and also
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the ideas that were going to push hopefully after
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the two thousand twenty two election where we take power it's
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i hope that means securing our border embracing
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and economic nationalism in our country
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for the sake of our workers and having
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a focused foreign policies that
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ensures that were not allowed
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laughing stock on the world stage like we have been
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under job
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would you make about of a mitt romney mitt romney
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would he make of a mike pence a mit rodgers
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get a little backstory you know everything about mitt romney but
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it's going to say for those were watching and listening he
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was the gutter governor of massachusetts pro choice
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had an epiphany became pro life he did
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romney care which was i guess legal
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because it's not constitutional to be federally done
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he did it in the state but it was basically what obama
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care was based on then when he ran
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for president trump backed him of
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support supported him monetarily and publicly
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romney turn dominant in in twenty sixteen
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from wins one he wanted to be the secretary of state's
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that didn't work out romney wanted to be the said
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the senator new toth trump helped him
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and then he attacked trump again and voted to impeach the guy
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who would you make of a romney or a mike pence
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who i would even though the guy's name had trump
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not put him on the ticket why they turning on the guy
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i think that there is an establishment in
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both parties that hopes to reconstitute
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after trump isn't so easy trump isn't
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isn't corrupt to stop ahold and to
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the special interests to the lobbyists
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of foreign interests abroad and they
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want us to be a beholden nation a
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beggar nation and i think that
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they want trump to sort of just get
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through everyone's political digestive system
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so that they can return to normal being vallese
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for those special interests and the reality
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is president from again
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sub think it is very powerful that
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is very enduring in the american people
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were now they expect a government that
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is more responsive to their needs that is more
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honest and it actually puts the needs of the people
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central in washington d c that
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that hadn't happened in a very long time and
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wheat with or the bureaucrats on the run
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and with some of the lobbyists on the run or
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there's a real sense that we're going to be able to get
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the ship back on in the right direction
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a people are stupid i mean some of these people are out
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there touting the praises of trump's policies
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while saying we should be post trump specifically
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says the guy still very he's sweet listen
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i'm cute as ages he can what he can go three hours
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off teleprompter and white of twenty five
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thirty thousand people the guy still has
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it and his policies ones that we really reaped
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the benefits of for four years what do they
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think they got a guy on yesterday wrote a book he
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said trump's policies were great we should all
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day but we just civil passed from why
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i don't wish they'd only it's is
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it the personality map is that with their
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products or finale let me be let me
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be a defender of the personality of ice and sometimes
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it's it's trump's kind of animated
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nature it's is hyper engagement
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sticking get the most out of people and i do
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think sometimes it's is savage taunts
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they can get to the core of issues milk the reason
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you wanted to talk to me today because i gave
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a speech about these hideous abortion
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activists that both struck
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a nerve and drew a great
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deal of criticism and i are friends sometimes
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president trump did the same thing but what it did was it
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accelerated change washington
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changes very slowly because the people
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who have power now still want to be changed
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that threatens that powers and when donald
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trump accelerates the decision making process
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with is abundant energy or i'm
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i'm here for the personality that that
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that that that creates i think a lot of people voted
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for him because of personality or without
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that personality without without that i'm not
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in the swamp mentality you might not have one
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that have you ever had a somebody on your level
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are aimed and you're a very high profile representatives
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walk up to you you know in these now was going to go
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ups a mac can you be a little more like us
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because i do people keep saying trump should be more
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presidential and like what else presidential
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are you a musket i had a back and forth on
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twitter a week ago where musk is talking
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about how we don't want from he should move on and
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i listed all of his policies as it would you disagree
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with and must seems to me on twitter
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was or none of those things but
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do we really want to bomb the china shop and i'm like well
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yes i do i'm have had people
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try to get you to taper down yeah
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me i remember when i first got here i had a member
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of leadership say bill gates you know we've kind
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of assess the you're not really a team player i'm
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afraid see players just you all are not my not
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by my for the people in my district to send
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me here and expect stamina put their interests
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first not be willing to trade my vote
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away because some deputy web
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of something made a promise to a lobbyist
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somewhere in exchange for a campaign contributions
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which by the way happens every day in washington
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dc it's that's what that's a big a team
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player means that's what's being part
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of being part of kind of the vr
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ethos of congress since it's the same
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way with the presidency donald trump
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was not in that office
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to just be responsive to the administrative
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state and the bureaucratic states he was there
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to provide leadership and boldness
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and a chart of paths and there are many of us that
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works so encouraged to be part of it and have to
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be a part of it yet again but i don't want
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someone who comes to washington to write
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out a list of a bunch of policies
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that maybe i agree with but that they're not willing
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to fight force and it was that spirit
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within trump's that actually cause the policies
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to go from conception to
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actual implementation and to see
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the improvements in people's lives as a consequence
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gave our nation's hope and promise
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and vigor and we took on the spirit
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of are ambitious president spouses kind
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of feels like we're sad depressed kind
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of puttering around to around the
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spirit of our current president the a new cause
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a beggar nation which is something we should never ever
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ever never be that's exactly what
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we are plus we're going release a bunch more oil from
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the us this is the strategic petroleum
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reserves that's post be strategic the it's
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not offer some reason it's mandate is a
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firebrand go check out his podcast called firebrand
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and go also get his book called firebrands
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let me ask you about nationalism i'm older than you
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are but i'm sure you've studied this when
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when jimmy carter was an office me the misery
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index became a thing it was horrible
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interest rates are jason unemployment it
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was nuts we didn't like the christmas tree because
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iran wouldn't give up or hostages only was just
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a horrible time in america and ronald
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reagan wins because he was a nationalist
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what does that mean he needs a legalization
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and have to be christian so i guess he was a christie nationalist
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for some reason when marjorie killer
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green says it and when makeweight says it in when i
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say it when president trump says they were
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nationalist we love the country america first and
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it's we have to be christians were suddenly
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hitler you've got rachel maddow literally
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doing an entire show on why marjorie
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tiller green or you might be
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out of the next right after hitler on
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because you dare say i love my
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country i'll do anything for the country
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and i also have to be christian met unpack
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that formula to how do we get here that
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being christian was bad and loving america
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was best though we should
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be proud of the values
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and christianity that we see reflected
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in the principles that have created
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the most prosperous the most loving
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and the most gracious nation has ever existed
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in all of human history gets to me
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being a nationalist means i love
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my country and more than that i love
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the land i love the people here
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i want every americans whether they
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agree with me or disagree with me to thrive
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and prosperous i want this to be a beautiful
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place that we preserve and conserve
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i want this to be a plus people are proud test
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have their churches on and test raise
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their families are in the scrape place
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that we call america that being a nationalist
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isn't about divisions it's about uplifting
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our entire people and realizing
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that we are our brother's keeper and a
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glut there's a billion chinese and there's
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like three or and fifty million of us and so if we're
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going to win our nation as to pull together
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and we after have everybody's contributing
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and working and that's the type of inspiration
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that i try to provide in the congress and i know that's
15:20
a march retailer green does his wealth
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your you reference the national malays
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of jimmy carter and yeah
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you compare the nasa's you compare what we're
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going through right now with joe biden
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i mean it makes the national
15:34
malays look like the eight nights of hanukkah
15:36
you're right it was a hoax and and and
15:39
as with people so concerned about their
15:41
jobs and investment in
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their careers and where
15:45
the opportunity for homeownership is going
15:47
to a you really have a lot of the signs of a
15:49
healthy society continuing to
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degrade while we see the president himself
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continue to degrade the and that's that's why reagan
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won he was an actual to love the countries
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and he restored nationals we said keeping usa
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ago we started waving the flag against which
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interesting that i've traveled to not too too many
16:05
different places but canada i've gone to italy
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and if you are pro italy in italy they
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love you have your pro canada in canada the love you have
16:11
your pro mexico mexico they love you if
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you pro you i say you're a racist i'll
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understand how it ever got that way and
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it's not that i think the leadership of the left believes
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it they think that they can get traction out of it's biggest
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some of those who follow them blindly do believe it's
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can we disabuse those who he the country
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i'm from doing that and make them come on our
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side go you know it's a pretty great list but
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i think the to do that, we have to be happy
16:34
warriors we have to speak the truth
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to people, but we also have to have a politics
16:38
that is invited, right? there's nothing
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inviting about critical race theory about
16:44
showing up to a political and
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having someone bark 37 pronouns
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at you and so, i that's the challenge
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of the left they've used division
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so much that they've divided into
16:54
a smaller and smaller group of,
16:57
basically woke white elites, and
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you have working class people of
17:01
every background of every ethnicity saying
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hey, you know what, i'm i'm grateful to be
17:05
in this i want work hard i want
17:08
to live the american dream and
17:10
if people are more worried about their equity
17:12
and inclusion training on ensuring
17:15
that i have skills and that my skills
17:17
result in economic output for my family
17:19
will, then they're not really putting my best interest
17:21
at the forefront of the public policy discussion
17:24
and so that's the lane that sky opened
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up for us during the trump era and
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if we if we are to
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liberate ourselves from the
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the k street lobbyists of,
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from some people who try to control politics,
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i think we've got really not an opportunity
17:39
just to win an election but to drive
17:41
a mandate to hold the vitamins stration
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accountable and then to get control the government again,
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he's the firebrand watches podcast called
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the same name also the book called firebrand florida
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matt gaetz matt, thanks emily for coming out and
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thank you so for speaking, truth to thank you
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all right thanks jo [unk] anytime or brother were backed up to
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