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You just said something that's

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like very important. Can't be

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dogmatic when you're talking

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about vaccines or about

0:18

anything. Yes, it is good to keep

0:21

an open mind, isn't it, and

0:23

be flexible and look at...

0:25

a 360 degree view of

0:27

things rather than your tunnel

0:29

vision and what you're indoctrinated

0:31

into isn't it? Yeah and especially

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if you know that that indoctrination

0:36

has been on purpose and profitable

0:38

and you know one of the

0:40

great things about your book is

0:42

first of all your books called

0:45

Dissolving Illusions I know I've talked

0:47

about on the podcast a bunch of

0:49

times but you you will

0:51

also highlight a lot of

0:54

things that we know are

0:56

beneficial that somehow or another

0:58

get lumped into nonsense. Like

1:00

even cinnamon? Yeah, cinnamon is a

1:02

powerful... herb actually and it's known to

1:05

be helpful in glucose handling for a

1:07

lot of diabetics taking it in capsule

1:09

form now. I noticed at the end

1:11

of my nephrology career that a lot

1:13

of my own patients were taking cement

1:15

capsules but it's also has a lot

1:17

of vitamin C in it and I

1:20

think that was probably one of the

1:22

keys. A lot of those old remedies

1:24

that we wrote about the magic and

1:26

then probably was the vitamin C in

1:28

them. I dismissed all that stuff as

1:31

total nonsense. I was like, oh

1:33

that's hippie nonsense, like echinacea, like get

1:35

out of here, it's hippie nonsense,

1:37

garlic, come on, get out of here.

1:39

Then the more I've read things,

1:41

especially like garlic is incredible for staff

1:44

infections for some reason. It is, and

1:46

it doesn't develop drug resistance, like a

1:48

lot of the drugs that are engineered

1:50

for it. Yeah, the hippies seem to

1:52

have got it right, I think. Well,

1:54

it's just that that whole

1:57

idea of natural remedies is

1:59

so Just universally

2:01

dismissed by non-silly people You know

2:03

when you say natural remedies. That's

2:06

great if you have a heart

2:08

attack go to a doctor stupid

2:10

You know, that's generally people's appeal

2:13

to authority Right, but it's the

2:15

doctor should be recommending those things

2:17

too like they're they're good too

2:20

like vitamin D Super important, and

2:22

one of the things that you

2:24

talked about in the book is

2:27

that I think this is really important

2:29

when you're talking about the measles vaccine.

2:31

You were saying that either if you

2:33

get an infection with measles, just a

2:35

natural infection, or if you get the

2:37

vaccine, you're still going to get depleted

2:39

of vitamin A. Like if you get

2:41

vaccinated for the measles, you should be

2:44

taking vitamin A as well. Your body's

2:46

going to get depleted just by getting

2:48

that shot. They don't tell you that.

2:50

No, they don't tell you anything. Just

2:52

Tylenol, which actually makes the vaccine not

2:54

work as well, in addition to causing

2:57

all kinds of immunological disturbances at the

2:59

time that you're supposed to be upregulating

3:01

your immune system against this dreaded disease.

3:03

Yeah, but one of the things about

3:06

the recommended by the, you know, the

3:08

white coats and the authorities is that

3:10

they... The public believes that so many

3:13

drugs and remedies are standardized that

3:15

the conventional medical system gives out.

3:17

And when you go to actually

3:19

look at them, and this includes

3:22

vaccines, even though they're standardized, meaning

3:24

that the manufacturers are told... what

3:26

the regulations should be in terms of

3:28

production when people go and look

3:30

at them they find it's anything

3:32

but standardized. It's very variable, which

3:34

is why we see such variability

3:36

in the results when people receive

3:38

them. That's only one reason why

3:40

there's so much variability. And

3:43

do you think it's the immunity?

3:45

to any legal consequences that has

3:47

allowed them to sort of operate

3:49

like this? Well, we certainly

3:51

saw an explosion of their

3:54

creativity since 1986. So, actually,

3:56

in 1986, you're referring to

3:59

the National... child vaccine injury

4:01

act that was passed in 1986

4:03

but before 1986 we had 1976

4:05

which was the swine flu vaccine

4:07

fiasco and that was that was

4:09

a situation where there was so

4:11

much injury that the vaccine producing

4:13

companies were no longer able to

4:15

get insurance. And so they went

4:17

to the government and they said,

4:19

we need you to indemnify us.

4:21

And they did. And so the

4:23

government absorbed all the lawsuit cases

4:25

that happened as a result of

4:27

the Guillaubere that happened from then.

4:29

And so that kind of set a

4:31

precedent for 1986. So back then, vaccines

4:33

were just kind of, you know, pieces

4:36

of microbes or maybe a live attenuated

4:38

virus. And then they would. put a

4:40

background of all kinds of hard things

4:42

inside of it and tell you it

4:45

was just a clear beautiful pure solution

4:47

but that's beside the point. So then

4:49

1986 comes along and because there's so

4:51

many lawsuits happening because of the dip

4:53

theory of pertussis tetanus vaccine that again

4:56

the vaccine companies couldn't continue to go

4:58

on the way they were because they

5:00

were being sued so much. So then this

5:02

this horrible act was passed which to some

5:04

people seemed like a good idea and this

5:06

is always how out of but it's going

5:09

to be okay because we're going to pay

5:11

out these lawsuits and you're going to be

5:13

fine. If your kid takes one for the

5:15

team, you're going to be okay. And what

5:17

happens is after time, after they get their

5:19

foot in the door, they narrowed down the,

5:22

they basically have a kangaroo court that decides

5:24

if you're eligible. And so the qualification tables

5:26

got narrowed down because in the beginning they

5:28

were paying out so much of this. So

5:30

not only did it make the vaccine

5:32

companies very, very wealthy and indemnified, but

5:34

as you alluded to just a minute

5:37

ago. the creativity of the vaccine companies

5:39

expanded. So after that they could add

5:41

different, what do we call, adjuvants, things

5:43

that stimulate the immune system so the

5:45

vaccine works better. Then they start, that's

5:47

why we're able to be in a

5:49

messenger RNA vaccine situation today, which that

5:51

wouldn't have happened if it weren't for

5:54

the symptomification that, you know, the vaccine

5:56

trials have always been a bit of

5:58

a joke, but they're even more. a joke

6:00

today than they were in the

6:02

beginning. We've never seen a vaccinated,

6:04

unvaccinated study that is accepted by

6:06

the powers that be as. you

6:09

know, good enough. The vaccinated on

6:11

vaccine studies that they have, they

6:13

use another vaccine for you probably

6:15

know that. So if you're testing

6:17

a measles vaccine, you could test

6:19

it against a diphtheria vaccine or

6:21

a flu shot vaccine is tested

6:24

against a hepatitis A vaccine. There's

6:26

no saline placebo because the few

6:28

studies that exist with saline pasebos

6:30

show. how bad the vaccine actually is

6:32

and how it makes you not only

6:34

not respond to the disease when it

6:37

comes around but more susceptible to it

6:39

in many cases. Have there been

6:41

any instances where vaccines have

6:43

been helpful? the

6:45

question of the century, isn't it? Okay,

6:47

now we have to back up a

6:50

minute because I had that same question

6:52

and I had to go dig deep

6:54

to all the questions you have in

6:56

your head right now. I had them

6:58

too at one point. So here I

7:00

am, a medical doctor, working in the

7:02

field, believing it, pretty much everything I

7:04

was told, giving hundreds if not thousands

7:06

of vaccines out to my patients, hepatitis

7:09

B vaccines in particular, flu shots for

7:11

sure. I was a nephrologist, kidney specialist,

7:13

and dialysis, etc. And

7:16

initially, you know, we all kind of have

7:18

an aversion to needles. I think it's

7:20

a natural human aversion. So we're kids,

7:22

we don't, no one's going, oh, I

7:24

want to go get my vaccines. We're

7:27

like, you know, okay, fine, sore arm,

7:29

you get over it. Most of us

7:31

were lucky enough to get over it.

7:33

So by the time, the first instance

7:35

of a problem occurred in front of

7:37

my eyes. I was already a fully

7:39

seasoned professor of medicine, you know, working

7:42

in a tertiary care medical center, okay?

7:44

And so it's been a bit of

7:46

a process because for me it was

7:49

the influenza vaccines in 2008, 2009 that

7:51

showed me without a doubt that vaccines

7:53

can and do cause kidney failure and

7:55

put people on dialysis, that that does

7:58

happen. It can cause hypertension. So we're

8:00

not told to take a vaccine

8:02

history in medical school. We're not

8:04

told to even look there. It's

8:06

not even part of, especially in

8:08

adults, but when I did start

8:10

looking there, I started to see

8:12

more and more associations. Let's just

8:14

put it that way. And so

8:16

first I had to go down

8:18

the flu vaccine bunny trail. And

8:20

every time I went down that

8:22

flu vaccine bunny trail, guess what

8:24

I was asked? What about polio?

8:26

Right. So I thought all right.

8:28

Even though this has absolutely zero to

8:30

do with polio because I'm watching

8:32

people crap out in front of

8:35

me after influenza vaccines, let's see

8:37

about polio. Because I knew very

8:39

little about polio, just like most

8:41

people walking around out there do,

8:43

that, you know, it was invented by

8:45

this guy named Jonas Salk and

8:47

it saved humanity. We don't see

8:49

this little crippled kids anymore. We

8:51

don't have iron lungs anymore. Yay.

8:53

Well, I would have to say

8:55

that the polio bunny trail was

8:57

the darkest one of all. So after

8:59

polio then became smallpox, and I

9:01

thought, you know, we still have

9:03

people walking the earth that have

9:05

experienced polio years. So I kind

9:07

of like to stick to polio

9:09

because most of the smallpox... you

9:11

know, people that would have been familiar

9:14

with it or off the planet.

9:16

But there's still some doctors around

9:18

that will talk about smallpox, like

9:20

a guy named Thomas Mac who's

9:22

probably close to 90, who was

9:24

kind of ground zero in the

9:26

1940s and knows a lot about it

9:28

and still says we shouldn't be

9:30

vaccinated for smallpox today. So then

9:32

there was that and then everyone

9:34

in their dog was talking about

9:36

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10:42

once we've breached that because that's

10:44

the big one yeah right this

10:46

is the one that everybody points

10:48

to we don't have triple kids

10:50

yeah what when you look at

10:52

the historical timeline of polio what

10:54

do you think caused it to go

10:56

it's essentially not be a problem

10:59

anymore Okay. You don't think vaccinations

11:01

had anything to do with that?

11:03

Well, I also, it's not what

11:05

I think because that's the thing.

11:07

Like, look, when I got into

11:09

this, I didn't say, oh, you know,

11:11

I want to argue that vaccines

11:13

are great. I said, look, I

11:15

don't care. I didn't have vaccines

11:17

are great. I said, look, I

11:19

don't care. I didn't have skin

11:21

in the game. I didn't have

11:23

vaccine injured kids. I couldn't have. What

11:25

the facts line up to show

11:27

you is that polio is still

11:29

here. polio is still alive and

11:31

well. polio is called different things

11:33

today. Whereas back in the 1940s,

11:35

1950s, the criteria for diagnosing polio

11:37

were completely different to the year that

11:40

the vaccine was introduced. The playing

11:42

field, the goal post, everything was

11:44

changed so that despite the fact

11:46

that there was more paralytic polio

11:48

in the years after that vaccine

11:50

was introduced, they were able to

11:52

show a complete cascading drop of paralytic

11:54

polio simply because of the way

11:56

they changed the definitions of what

11:58

polio is and what could cause

12:00

it. started testing for the virus

12:02

or before they would never test

12:04

for the virus. And when they

12:06

started testing for the virus later, what

12:08

they would find that people had

12:11

Guillaumere syndrome, they didn't have virus,

12:13

or they had Coxacke virus, or

12:15

Echovirus, or they were lead poisoned,

12:17

or mercury poisoned, which was the

12:19

mercury and lead, were the leading

12:21

treatments of the day, including blood letting.

12:23

They were telling people to put,

12:25

take your cigarette and put a

12:27

little bit of arsenicic in there,

12:29

it's good for your lungs. Yeah,

12:31

they were literally blowing smoke up

12:33

people's butts like that that's where

12:35

the term comes from because there if

12:37

you want to Google that now

12:39

you'll see that there's an instrument

12:41

that does it. Yeah, so yeah

12:43

the polio story where to even

12:45

begin and so there's about 70

12:47

pages and so that became my

12:49

obsession. So when people said what about

12:52

polio and I started digging this

12:54

up, I went deep into it.

12:56

Did you dive into pesticides? Yes,

12:58

yes, you have to dive into

13:00

pesticides because the tonnage of production

13:02

of DDT absolutely mirrored the diagnosis

13:04

for polio in the days and the

13:06

countries that still make DDT today

13:08

is where we're still seeing this

13:10

paralytic polio situation happen. And also

13:12

weren't the first cases, did they

13:14

break out in a rural community?

13:16

The first case is a polio.

13:18

Yes, very good. Yes, it was out

13:20

in the countryside. Well, that was

13:23

probably more because of the sheep

13:25

and cow dipping. So arsenic, you'd

13:27

have to look at arsenic, you

13:29

have to look at the mercurials,

13:31

you have to look at the

13:33

calcium arsenate, lead arsenic, you have to

13:35

look at the mercurials, you have

13:37

to look at the calcium arsenate,

13:39

lead arsenate, sprays, you have to

13:41

look at the calcium arsenate, lead

13:43

arsenate sprays, that were put the

13:45

calciumate. through and I'd be soaked

13:47

with the stuff by the end of

13:49

the day. Oh my god. Yeah

13:51

so they're basically soaking and bathing

13:53

and arsenic which is great for

13:55

killing fleas and ticks. But it's

13:57

not really great for keeping your

13:59

nervous system happy because the fact

14:01

of the matter is and this

14:03

again I've got medical references everything I

14:06

can't get away with making stuff

14:08

up okay I have to put

14:10

a reference everything but arsenic causes

14:12

the exact same spinal pathology that

14:14

and fevers and everything it literally

14:16

mimics what they were calling polio

14:18

and a polio virus back in the

14:20

day. I read this crazy statistic

14:22

and I still can't believe it's

14:24

real that 95 to 99% of

14:26

all polio is asymptomatic. That's exactly

14:28

right. So polio virus is what

14:30

we call a commensal, just like

14:32

you have staff on your skin and

14:35

strep on your skin and it

14:37

actually serves a purpose. It keeps

14:39

other microbes in check as long

14:41

as you don't get a cut

14:43

and have not a good immune

14:45

system to deal from the inside

14:47

out. So polio, the reason I can

14:49

say that polio is a commensal

14:51

is because again, there are medical

14:53

studies that showed that people who

14:55

dared to get on the edge

14:57

of some of these wild native

14:59

tribes down in South America or

15:01

elsewhere, but in particular I'm talking about

15:03

about a South American tribe called

15:05

the Javante Indians. So the Indian

15:07

Health Service got to the edge

15:09

of it and bargained that they

15:11

would get some stool and some

15:13

blood from the tribes so that

15:15

they could test it for polio. And

15:18

what they found was 98 to

15:20

99% of every person they tested

15:22

and 99% of every person they

15:24

tested and it was hundreds of

15:26

people had all had evidence of

15:28

immunity to all three strains of

15:30

polio. And they said to them, well

15:32

where are your crippled children? Where

15:34

are the people that died of

15:36

respiratory failure? We don't have any

15:38

of any of that problem. So

15:40

it was well known. Could it

15:42

possibly be that whatever you're calling

15:44

polio evolved and became less powerful over

15:47

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15:49

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don't become more problematic as they

16:42

go through the human, the human system.

16:44

They become less problematic. Remember, remember

16:46

the whole COVID thing? Like in

16:48

the beginning, people were getting super,

16:50

super sick. It was, it wasn't

16:52

as contagious, but it was more

16:54

virulent. And as it attenuated into

16:56

the human bodies, it sort of felt,

16:59

it kind of fizzled out a

17:01

bit. And then we got the

17:03

amochron, which was, you know, less,

17:05

it was more spreadable, but it

17:07

was much less pathological. real problems

17:09

with microbes, they're usually going to

17:11

be reverse attenuated, meaning made more

17:13

lethal in a lab, and then they're

17:15

introduced into the population. And look,

17:17

I'm not making this up either.

17:19

1916, upper east side Manhattan, there

17:21

was a Rockefeller lab that their

17:23

specific stated goal was to try

17:25

to create the most pathological neuropathological

17:27

strain of polio possible. And they did

17:29

that by taking monkey brains and

17:31

human spinal serum serum and injects.

17:33

it into monkeys and there was

17:35

a big problem with that which

17:37

was released into the public by

17:39

accident and the world experienced the

17:41

worst polio epidemic on record 25% mortality

17:44

that's unheard of really freaked the

17:46

public out but as it as

17:48

it cut in that you can

17:50

see the epicenter as it fanned

17:52

out and as time went on

17:54

never heard of it again, it

17:56

attenuates as it moves through the body

17:58

because it's a normal human commensal

18:00

that goes back to its normal

18:02

state when it's in a human.

18:04

And that's just what happens. If

18:06

you have a highly lethal virus

18:08

and it kills a lot of

18:10

people, those people are dead. They can't

18:13

spread anything. So that's kind of

18:15

a different story. If you want

18:17

to talk about hauntavirus or something

18:19

like that. But as far as

18:21

polio goes, no, polio was only

18:23

made more lethal by the stupid

18:25

things that humans did around it. So

18:27

make it more invasive into the

18:29

body, just like you can go

18:31

do stupid things and end up

18:33

with herpes outbreaks and, you know,

18:35

staff outbreaks. polio virus is a

18:37

normal, a normal commensal it used

18:39

to be until we obliterated vaccines and

18:41

replaced it with vaccine strain, but

18:43

the wild strains are normal human

18:45

condensals. So there's vaccine strain polio

18:47

that just comes from a vaccine

18:49

and is transmissible? Absolutely. Today, it

18:51

would be the oral polio vaccines

18:53

because they're the live strains and they're

18:56

still giving them pulse fashion all

18:58

throughout India. They did a campaign

19:00

a few years back in Israel

19:02

and they always say that a

19:04

nomad came and pooped in the

19:06

sewage system and they find it

19:08

in the sewage system and they don't

19:10

want an outbreak to happen so

19:12

they treat everybody. So that's today

19:14

the most common reason to see.

19:16

polio myelitis disease from a virus.

19:18

If you test for a virus,

19:20

they'll usually find the vaccine virus.

19:22

And that's why today we don't remember

19:25

when we were kids, because we're

19:27

about the same age, I think,

19:29

they would give us the sugar

19:31

cube. Maybe you didn't, but I

19:33

did. I got the sugar cube

19:35

and that was the live vaccine.

19:37

Well, they stopped doing that because after

19:39

a while, the only cases of

19:41

polio, and it became so obvious

19:43

that the only cases of polio

19:45

we were seeing related to a

19:47

virus when they tested for polio

19:49

were tested for polio, when they

19:51

tested for polio, were seeing related to

19:53

a virus, when they tested for

19:55

polio, were vaccine for polio, when

19:57

they tested for polio, when they

19:59

tested for polio, when they tested

20:01

for polio, people don't understand when

20:03

they're they're cast. Well, that's not

20:05

true because the iron lung is now

20:08

called a ventilator. So that's out

20:10

the window. Transverse myelitis, which there

20:12

are about 13... 100 cases, I

20:14

think it's a month diagnosed in

20:16

one particular, I put a quote.

20:18

put a quote in here on

20:20

that, but transverse myelitis is actually something

20:22

that would have absolutely, it follows

20:24

the same pathology as polio would

20:26

have been called polio back in

20:28

the day. So we still have

20:30

polio that we had in 1953

20:32

because in 1953 all you had

20:34

to be diagnosed is polio, any

20:36

one could diagnose you, just one examination

20:39

with one set of muscles being

20:41

paralyzed, there was no time frame

20:43

on it, there was no testing

20:45

done on it, and then it

20:47

was considered a public service to

20:49

do it because then you were

20:51

eligible for funding for funding. So what

20:53

do they call it again? Can

20:55

you say that word again? Myelitis?

20:57

Polyomylitis is the definition of the

20:59

actual pathology, you know, so it

21:01

basically means inflammation of the gray

21:03

matter of your spinal cord. That's

21:05

what polio and Greek, polyomylitis. It means

21:07

gray matter inflammation, polyomylitis. Polyomylitis is

21:09

what happens in the body. Okay,

21:11

if you want to talk about

21:13

what causes it, then okay, maybe

21:15

in some cases a poliovirus causes

21:17

it. And all the other things

21:19

we just mentioned, arsenic, lead, arsenate, calcium,

21:22

arsenate, injections, tonsilectomies were huge cause

21:24

of some of the worst cases

21:26

of polio myelitis. And in fact,

21:28

injections and tonsilectomies and unnecessary surgeries

21:30

were put on hold during the

21:32

years where the epidemics were the

21:34

worst. So that's just proof that even

21:36

the surgeons knew that. Why, why,

21:38

how does it affect it? Okay,

21:40

so if you happen to have

21:42

polyomyelite circulating in your body that's

21:44

not just sitting in your intestines

21:46

and say it made its way

21:48

into your body, because we can, things

21:51

can go from your intestines into

21:53

your body, and you happen to

21:55

have it close to a nerve

21:57

that's up, say, around your throat,

21:59

and then you go and take

22:01

tonsils out, then what you've done

22:03

is you've given that access to the

22:05

blood compartment, the lymph compartment, and

22:07

the brainstem, which is right there

22:09

local. what was called bulbar polio,

22:11

which is the ones that put

22:13

you on a ventilator. And it's

22:15

highly lethal. It's the worst kind

22:17

of polio to get bulbar polio. And

22:19

it was very well known to

22:21

have been coincident with tonsilectomies. Not

22:23

only that, but tonsilectomies changed the

22:25

structure and antibodies and the immunity

22:27

that occurred in the throat, and

22:29

it changed it for the worse,

22:31

not for the better. Do you think

22:34

they're unnecessary? Is there some times

22:36

when people have to get their

22:38

tonsils removed or is it just

22:40

a nonsense practice? Okay, so again,

22:42

it's not just a cut and

22:44

dry answer because let's just say

22:46

that anyone who's ever brought their child

22:48

to me because the tonsils were

22:50

touching or they were snoring has

22:52

not had to have a tonsilectomy.

22:54

Now, does that mean that a

22:56

tonsilectomy won't solve that problem where

22:58

you're snoring and, you know, your

23:00

kids maybe not oxygenating? No, if you

23:03

let it go that long, probably

23:05

you're going to need a tonsilectomy,

23:07

but I've seen so many cases

23:09

reverse. It's a very easy thing

23:11

to do, but as doctors, we're

23:13

not taught about all the things

23:15

that you were talking about earlier, the

23:17

natural remedies, but just simply gargling

23:19

with a solution of... of sodium

23:21

escorbate, vitamin C, can make a

23:23

huge difference because tonsils are like,

23:25

they're like poorest golf balls if

23:27

you want to think of them

23:29

that way. They've got pits in them

23:31

and so food you eat and

23:33

bacteria and pus can build up,

23:35

but if you just start rinsing

23:37

the outside of them and start

23:39

nourishing the body from the inside

23:41

and getting rid of things that

23:43

the kid might be allergic to,

23:45

which almost every kid's going to eat

23:48

if your parent doesn't know better,

23:50

I think everything else should be

23:52

done first before taking out the

23:54

tonsils if there's time because I'd

23:56

say 95 to 99% of the

23:58

time you can prevent that child

24:00

from needing their tonsils removed. Before we

24:02

go to smallpox I want to

24:04

talk about this because he just

24:06

brought it up. One of the

24:08

things that Brett Weinstein has explained

24:10

to me is that aluminum... The

24:12

concept is that giving someone a

24:14

shot with aluminum in it and triggering

24:17

an immune response, if they're eating

24:19

certain foods during that time, they

24:21

can then develop an allergy to

24:23

those foods, like certain people with

24:25

peanuts and various things like that

24:27

that used to be very common

24:29

for people to eat, but then a

24:31

bunch of people developed like pretty

24:33

severe food allergies. And he makes

24:35

this connection. that he believes he

24:37

is a reasonable, it's a reasonable

24:39

connection to say that there's something.

24:41

Absolutely, 100% and it's not just

24:43

something he's dreamed up. Again, provable medical

24:45

literature in the book, dissolving illusions,

24:47

the physiology, the pathologies known, it's

24:49

very well known that. the vaccines

24:51

that have aluminum in them, skew

24:53

the immune system. So the immune

24:55

system kind of, just if you

24:57

want to break it down, it's really

25:00

simply. You have your TH1 arm

25:02

and your TH2 arm. Your TH1

25:04

arm is a really important one.

25:06

Those are the, those are your

25:08

T cell's, your T cell's, your

25:10

lymphocytes, your lymphocytes, the cells, the

25:12

cells, the cells, you know, your lymphocytes,

25:14

the things like that, and it's

25:16

mostly an antibody. arm of immunity.

25:18

That's when the vaccinologists are obsessed

25:20

with making sure there's enough antibody.

25:22

So the vaccines that have aluminum

25:24

in them as opposed to the

25:26

live attenuated vaccines which don't have aluminum.

25:29

All the other ones do so

25:31

you DDAP is going to have

25:33

aluminum in them. All your killed

25:35

vaccines are going to have aluminum

25:37

in them and that is very

25:39

well known to trigger that TH2

25:41

response which is the allergic response which

25:43

can set up your body for

25:45

auto immunity. And so Part of

25:47

the purpose of breastfeeding, which is

25:49

part of the blueprint for humanity

25:51

and every other mammal, is that

25:53

the mother is able to introduce

25:55

antigens in the world to her baby

25:57

through her own breast and things

25:59

that she's been eating and breathing

26:01

in, and then the baby's able

26:03

to develop tolerance. You know, while

26:05

vaccine scientists are obsessed with getting

26:07

antibodies and ramping up an infant's

26:09

inadequate immune system, the fact of the

26:12

matter is, is that it's more

26:14

important to learn what not to

26:16

react to when your immune system's

26:18

developing rather than to becoming defensive

26:20

against every microbe that could get

26:22

you. So that's kind of the

26:24

paradox there and one of the battlegrounds

26:26

for, you know, immunology within immunology.

26:28

And for those of us out

26:30

here that are going, what are

26:32

you doing here, you know? Anyway,

26:34

you're also talking in your book

26:36

about the importance of breast milk

26:38

and the The amount of nutrition that's

26:41

in breast milk for a child

26:43

and what it does for a

26:45

child And the differences in their

26:47

mean system the differences in a

26:49

lot of different aspects of their

26:51

development Which is pretty fascinating and

26:53

most people kind of just assume it's

26:55

food. It's just food. But it's

26:57

a lot more than that It's

26:59

so much more than that. And

27:01

I was actually quite startled when

27:03

I really went down that rabbit

27:05

hole to see not only... I

27:07

mean, it is food. It's excellent

27:09

nutrition with short chain fatty acids and

27:11

sugars that the baby needs. It

27:13

actually trains your gut to be

27:15

healthy in the long run as

27:17

an adult, which trains your immune

27:19

system as well. But what that

27:21

mother is putting through her breast

27:23

milk, you know, things like something called

27:26

hamlet, H-A-M-L-E-T, which stands for human

27:28

alpha lactal buman made lethal to

27:30

tumors. And this is a substance,

27:32

this is a protein, it's like

27:34

a transformmer protein that can literally...

27:36

turn into a cancer-busting molecule that

27:38

is being used by the oncology industry,

27:40

okay? And when it's not in

27:42

that form, it's a powerful protein

27:44

that fights off pertussis, all kinds

27:46

of pneumococcal bacteria, and when it's

27:48

not doing that, it's food. Okay,

27:50

so it's like, it's got so

27:52

many different purposes. stem cells are coming

27:55

through that mother's milk. Activated T

27:57

cells. Activated T cells have another

27:59

substance in them that is kind

28:01

of hijacked by the oncology industry.

28:03

and that is when they're immunosuppressing

28:05

kids for leukemia or whatever and

28:07

they come in contact say with chicken

28:09

pox what they can do is

28:11

get somebody like me who's immune

28:13

to chicken pox naturally and take

28:15

my memory tea cells that remember

28:17

that and there's a substance in

28:19

there called dializable leukocyte extract when

28:21

you put that into another child even

28:23

if whether they eat it or

28:25

inject it into them it transfers

28:27

cellular that TH1 important arm of

28:29

immunity I just told you it

28:31

transfers it onto them and protects

28:33

them for a long time so

28:35

that's kind of in the old days

28:38

when when mothers had measles in

28:40

the old days and normal and

28:42

they were able to pass this

28:44

powerful immunity through that that DLE

28:46

factor as well as all these

28:48

other things including pre-formed immune globulins

28:50

I mentioned something like 80,000 stem cells

28:52

it's it's just incredible all and

28:54

we still have only hit the

28:56

tip of the iceberg in terms

28:58

of what we know about breast

29:00

milk but breast milk also It's

29:02

been proven again that if you're

29:04

going to, if you are going to

29:07

vaccinate your baby, if you're breastfeeding,

29:09

the vaccine will bring that baby

29:11

more into a TH1. If you're

29:13

not breastfeeding and you're giving formula,

29:15

that baby's going to move more

29:17

into a TH2 in response to

29:19

that vaccine. So, like, if most women

29:21

understood the powers of breast milk,

29:23

they would do everything possible to

29:25

be able to do it. I

29:27

think you make a very compelling

29:29

point for that. that we could

29:31

assume that we could replace something

29:33

with a, I mean, you ever read

29:35

the ingredients of formula? Like, how

29:37

could that be good? I know.

29:39

Paracites, we have parasites that have

29:41

been parasites upon humanity for such

29:43

a long time, and that's what

29:45

happens, is that something is discovered,

29:47

and for some people, maybe it can

29:50

be a good idea, but then

29:52

the parasites take it and want

29:54

to, so when it came to

29:56

breastfeeding, dairy cow, just strap them

29:58

down, the milk will stop, and

30:00

then you can start putting this

30:02

wonderful, when I was a kid, I

30:04

was fed soy milk in a

30:06

warm plastic bag. That was the

30:08

fad then grown up. So the

30:10

formula industry is a huge moneymaker,

30:12

and some women do prefer it.

30:14

Fortunately, 75% of women in the

30:16

USA today do initiate breastfeeding. So

30:18

that's very much better than the polio

30:21

days when almost nobody was breastfeeding

30:23

and they were using milk in

30:25

the infant formula that had been

30:27

contaminated by what the cows were

30:29

eating. Oh my God. And so

30:31

that was another part of the

30:33

polio story that's not been told. So

30:35

the cows were all eating these

30:37

pesticides? Yes. and herbicides. Yes. And

30:39

the cows were getting sick with

30:41

it and then these people were

30:43

drinking the milk from that cow

30:45

and getting sick as well. Eating

30:47

the meat? Well the cows wouldn't have

30:49

been getting necessarily getting sick from

30:51

it but it would be concentrating

30:53

in their milk and so the

30:55

milk would have been expressed but

30:57

what you just brought me back

30:59

to another place. Cows were also

31:01

used during the smallpox era and what

31:04

you're saying is true about that.

31:06

So they would basically take what

31:08

they thought... Sorry, it's just so

31:10

dark that sometimes you have to

31:12

laugh. But they would take pus

31:14

from other animals, scratch it into

31:16

the belly of a cow, then take

31:18

the pus off of the big

31:20

pimples that would form on the

31:22

belly of a cow. The cow

31:24

could become very sick, and yet

31:26

that cow could still be butchered

31:28

up at the butcher shop. The

31:30

butcher would get sick with pemphagus or

31:33

some hand in mouth disease or...

31:35

you know, the things that the

31:37

cows normally catch. And so those

31:39

cows could still be used to

31:41

produce meat in those cases. I

31:43

don't know that it was used

31:45

to produce milk. I don't think that

31:47

would have, I don't know, but

31:49

I know it was used to

31:51

produce meat because the butchers were

31:53

getting sick and the people that

31:55

were eating the meat were getting

31:57

sick. And certainly the people that

31:59

took the vaccines that had certain who

32:01

knows what in them because it

32:03

was shown like into the 1970.

32:05

eight years and even recently I

32:07

have a reference from after the

32:09

year 2000 that there was more

32:11

bacteria and fungus in the smallpox

32:13

vaccines than there was smallpox virus. So

32:16

it was because they had this

32:18

thing called pure lymph which was

32:20

pus that came out of the

32:22

horse of a horse's foot or

32:24

a donkey's pus skin or a

32:26

cadaver of a human or a

32:28

cow's ulcerating utters and scraped into glycerin

32:30

and called pure lymph and marketed

32:32

all over the world as a

32:34

citizen. This is the look Joe

32:36

this was our success. This is

32:38

the one vaccine that eliminated eradicated

32:40

a disease. Can you believe that

32:42

fairy tale? I'll tell you another one.

32:45

Like it doesn't get crazy. This

32:47

is our success. This vaccine that

32:49

I had described in great detail

32:51

with what was in it and

32:53

what people saw under microscopes and

32:55

then later tested genetically was what

32:57

was called a quasi-species, meaning they don't

32:59

even, after a while it became

33:01

its own thing. It wasn't... from

33:03

a horse anymore, it wasn't from

33:05

a human anymore. They called it

33:07

humanized horsepox when they genetically characterized

33:09

the dry vacs and then ordered

33:11

that every dry vac specimen on the

33:13

planet be destroyed. I think that

33:15

was around 2009. Why did they

33:17

do that? Good question. I don't

33:19

know. Hiding the evidence possibly, but

33:21

they now have a new vaccine,

33:23

which doesn't work. But they wanted

33:25

to bring this one back when

33:27

I when I was in my peak

33:30

of my career in 2003. I

33:32

got a letter on my desk

33:34

stating that they needed people to

33:36

get vaccinated for smallpox so that

33:38

those other people that were getting

33:40

vaccinated would have somebody that could

33:42

treat them that would be immune to

33:44

smallpox because it's well known that

33:46

if you get a smallpox vaccine

33:48

you get these horrible scabs that

33:50

you are going. you're going to

33:52

spread smallpox and you're going to

33:54

have a horrible itchy time of

33:56

it secondary infections you will need a

33:59

doctor at some point. Well it

34:01

turns out that the trials that

34:03

they did on super healthy people,

34:05

soldiers that were in top shape

34:07

were so bad in terms of

34:09

cardiac disease and other diseases that

34:11

the government put it on hold for

34:13

a second and said, oh no,

34:15

no, we can't do this. Meanwhile,

34:17

guess what? They were using the

34:19

same vaccine in the 1700s and

34:21

1800s. late, yeah, late, late, late

34:23

1700s, all through the 1800s into

34:25

the 1900s, they would sometimes, you probably

34:27

saw the picture of the child's

34:29

arm, considered a good take, five

34:31

huge ulcers on the arm, with

34:33

sanitation being what it was, no

34:35

antibiotics. Can you imagine having your

34:37

baby have five scars on its

34:39

arm, ulcerating from these things, having fevers?

34:42

Sometimes the arms became necrotic, sometimes

34:44

the disease spread all over the

34:46

place, and there was nothing to

34:48

give them except bloodless... letting mercurials

34:50

and arsenicals and heating them up

34:52

in a dark room with no

34:54

sunlight. That was the treatment for smallpox.

34:56

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well what's fascinating also is that most

36:10

people aren't aware of the just the

36:13

general public health conditions during the time

36:15

of the smallpox outbreak that's right and

36:17

just the way the way people lived

36:20

is almost unheard of. You wouldn't be

36:22

able to imagine just the smell of

36:24

human feces everywhere. Like streets were filled

36:27

without houses, there was animal shit in

36:29

the streets, there was no sanitation, there's

36:31

no running water, it's a disaster. It's

36:34

a disaster and there's no good food.

36:36

So you got malnutrition, you're exposed to

36:38

numerous pathogens and just waste. You probably

36:41

have fecal matter on everything. It's probably

36:43

unavoidable, attracts in your house. It's everywhere

36:45

you go. It's your drinking water. The

36:48

drinking water was a pet, you would

36:50

skim the top off for your drinking

36:52

water back then. And we know that

36:55

co-infections make any primary infection worse. You

36:57

know, if you have measles and you

36:59

get a co-infection, it makes it worse.

37:02

anything makes it worse, you end up

37:04

with, you know, pneumonias and pus pockets

37:06

in your lungs. So yeah, thank you

37:09

for that description. I don't think I

37:11

could have done it much better myself.

37:13

But that's the, that was normal. Go

37:16

watch gangs of New York. Like, that's,

37:18

that's. obviously a drama and you know

37:20

it's probably not completely accurate but I

37:23

bet it's pretty close. But it's pretty

37:25

close to how people live back then.

37:27

Yeah the slums like you can you

37:30

can actually like in here it's not

37:32

all medical articles quoted some of the

37:34

quotes that we use are historical quotes

37:37

from you know anthropologists that would go

37:39

through the slums in New York you

37:41

know the Ellis Island was just bringing

37:44

people in bringing people in and these

37:46

they would sometimes have 20 people in

37:48

one room with no privy dark you

37:51

know Like you say, the sewage would

37:53

run underneath the house, so the smell

37:55

of it would be coming up through

37:58

the whole time. And then you'd have

38:00

them working 16 hours a day. at

38:02

the age of anything upwards of four

38:04

to five years old could be sent

38:07

to either coal mines or canneries to

38:09

bring money in for the families to

38:11

barely survive so people weren't being paid

38:14

very well but you just said smallpox

38:16

being what it was but what people

38:18

don't realize is that in the 1600s

38:21

late 1680s doctors were describing smallpox as

38:23

one of the easiest diseases to treat

38:25

if you simply just supported the human

38:28

again quoted that And then what happened

38:30

is the Industrial Revolution, and people were

38:32

taken with the land enclosure acts out

38:35

from the farms and brought into cities,

38:37

which didn't have the pigs basically, were

38:39

the garbage men back then. So the

38:42

pigs ran wild. Thank God, because if

38:44

they didn't, it would have been even

38:46

worse. Horses were your cars, so your

38:49

horse were dumping everywhere. you know, some

38:51

people just, they said there was a

38:53

foot of horse manure to get through

38:56

to walk across the street. So it

38:58

was, it was horrible in pretty much

39:00

every way you can think of, and

39:03

then the human oppression on top of

39:05

it in terms of the poverty that

39:07

was there and the wealthy elite at

39:10

the top kind of, you know, living

39:12

the good life, but it was starting

39:14

to filter up to them at some

39:17

point, which is probably partly to... save

39:19

themselves because if you can stop disease

39:21

from running rampant through society, look, they

39:24

still had to go into the cities

39:26

to get things. Right. And even if

39:28

you sent your servant into the city,

39:31

your servant could bring you home something

39:33

lovely from the city. Yeah. This is

39:35

not the picture that was painted when

39:38

we were children of what society was

39:40

like. No, we were told that this

39:42

vaccine was so important and it was

39:45

so effective that we don't need it

39:47

anymore. I actually ended up with one

39:49

when I was very young. I think

39:52

what we're talking about when we're saying

39:54

the conditions, that these conditions aren't known

39:56

to most people and that these conditions

39:59

coincide with these diseases and that's probably

40:01

not just a correlation. So the conditions

40:03

cor- with the diseases and the conditions

40:05

also correlate with the death rates. Okay.

40:08

And so there were many of the

40:10

diseases that were talking, say just diarrhea.

40:12

Do you know diarrhea killed more people

40:15

in the civil war than bullets? Yeah.

40:17

And lots of other wars, diarrhea, and

40:19

lots of other wars, diarrhea. Diary can

40:22

be caused by lots of things, nothing

40:24

that we vaccinate for essentially. Well, I

40:26

mean, today there's road of virus, but

40:29

that wasn't a thing then. It was

40:31

more, you know, typhus and things like

40:33

that things like that. Yeah, that's what

40:36

that would have been because they would

40:38

be out, you know, in the in

40:40

the in the bush or the trenches,

40:43

you know, drinking what they could. So,

40:45

um, redirect me again. We're just talking

40:47

about the, um, okay, so the the

40:50

diseases that there were never any vaccines

40:52

for, we see the death rate come

40:54

down at the same exact avalanche as

40:57

the diseases that we did vaccinate for.

40:59

And in some cases there is a

41:01

little blip when the vaccine comes up

41:04

and things get worse for a bit

41:06

and then come back down. So again,

41:08

the point of the book was just

41:11

interpreting the data that's existed for a

41:13

really long time, vital statistics throughout the

41:15

world as to the... decline in death

41:18

rate. In some cases the disease rates

41:20

went down too, but the most important

41:22

thing was the death rate because that's

41:25

what people, your baby could die, you

41:27

have to have a vaccine, right? It's

41:29

not your baby could have a rash.

41:32

You know, so different diseases have different

41:34

severities and and different solutions and different

41:36

ways to treat them so that they

41:39

never have to present to a hospital.

41:41

But like you said, you know, back

41:43

in those days, you know, there wasn't,

41:46

the pharmacies basically had your materials, arsenicals,

41:48

if you were lucky, some homeopathics. That

41:50

was pretty much medicine back then, until

41:53

aspirin was invented, which was probably one

41:55

of the reasons why the 1918 flew,

41:57

looked as bad as it did, because

41:59

they were giving people up to 10

42:02

grams of aspirin a day, which can

42:04

cause pulmonary pulmonary adema and a healthy

42:06

person. What was this logic behind the

42:09

Arsenx and the Mercurials? Like how did

42:11

that become an approach? that they used

42:13

for medicine. Well, I don't know actually,

42:16

don't know the answer to why they

42:18

started doing that. Those are two really

42:20

bad things. Well, I'll tell you how

42:23

they prescribed it is they would say,

42:25

give one grain until emissus occurs. That

42:27

means throwing up. So give it until

42:30

a person throws up, because back then

42:32

they believed that if they could get

42:34

you to throw up, they thought if...

42:37

bringing stuff out of your body was

42:39

good blood letting throwing up and diarrhea

42:41

and so that's how that was the

42:44

threshold for giving a lot of these

42:46

drugs so they thought instead you know

42:48

how can you get someone to have

42:51

diarrhea with as a doctor okay well

42:53

we can give them materials and arsenicals

42:55

that will do the trick and so

42:58

they thought that they could purge the

43:00

body by doing that. Oh, okay. Paradoxically

43:02

as a therapeutic agent that has been

43:05

used since ancient times for the treatment

43:07

of multiple diseases. So does it actually

43:09

cure some stuff? In small doses? Well,

43:12

what good is it cure if you

43:14

have a dead patient or a patient

43:16

with neuropathy? You haven't really cured anyone,

43:19

have you? Right. Well isn't it dose

43:21

dependent, right? It says arsenic, trioxide, the

43:23

active ingredient in the traditional Chinese medicine

43:26

was shown to produce dramatic remission of

43:28

acute, you could say that wordly, ma'am.

43:30

Pro-mylocytic leukemia. Thank you. Yeah, similar to

43:33

the effect of vitamin A could do

43:35

it, okay? Right, trans, retinolic acid, which

43:37

is vitamin A. Yeah. Okay, that's interesting.

43:40

There are still a lot of poisons

43:42

used in oncology. I'd say it's less

43:44

risky for vitamin A than arsenic. But

43:47

is it a different kind of arsenic?

43:49

Slightly different kind of arsenic or a

43:51

lower dose of arsenic? Is that... They

43:53

measured things in grains back then, so

43:56

I guess that's probably like maybe like

43:58

a milligram, something like that. But the

44:00

Chinese medicine is probably the root of

44:03

it, right? Why they thought it was

44:05

medicine? Could be. But maybe they used

44:07

the wrong arsenic or... That's possible. I

44:10

guess you can't you start trying the

44:12

things that you have right mercury is

44:14

a crazy one though How would they

44:17

know that's poison forever? Like, it... Wasn't

44:19

that quicksilver though? They used... Wasn't it

44:21

in the same thing or no? I

44:24

don't know. It's a fascinating metal because

44:26

it's liquid. It's a liquid metal. A

44:28

lot of people played with it when

44:31

they were kids. I know some of

44:33

the smartest people I know talk about

44:35

how they played with the mercury ball

44:38

when they were little. Yikes. And it's

44:40

in thermometers. it was actually in the

44:42

MMR vaccines and some of the flu

44:45

vaccines is because it's an antimicrobial. They'll

44:47

kill everything. So maybe that was part

44:49

of that, because it will kill everything,

44:52

will kill the microbes in a Petri

44:54

dish. So in order to, because this

44:56

is one of the realities of vaccine

44:59

manufacture, which I want your audience to

45:01

understand on, is that vaccines, while it

45:03

might look like just a clear liquid,

45:06

in order to make a vaccine, you

45:08

have to have either a cow that

45:10

you put ulcers on and scrapeurbsorps off.

45:13

as it had evolved to maybe getting,

45:15

you know, some tumorous cells that came

45:17

out of a cocker spaniel's kidney or

45:20

monkey balls or monkey kidneys and you

45:22

plate those cells out and then you

45:24

inoculate it with what you want to

45:27

grow to put in your vaccine later.

45:29

But in order to keep those cells

45:31

alive, you have to put animal blood

45:34

on it, you have to put different

45:36

nutrients on top of it, you have

45:38

to put antibiotics, kinemisin, you know, things

45:41

like that related to the COVID. here

45:43

mercury. Okay, so in the end you

45:45

can kill, you can make sure when

45:48

you have your final product that if

45:50

you put a little bit of mercury

45:52

in there, that it's less likely for

45:54

any of the fungus or the spores

45:57

or the bacteria or the adventitious viruses

45:59

that you didn't know about that were

46:01

there before will be in your final

46:04

product. Wonderful. So you have a product

46:06

now that you can be not completely

46:08

sure has any of these. deadly microbes,

46:11

but now has mercury, which the only

46:13

places it's actually okay to have on

46:15

the planet mercury is in vaccines, your

46:18

tooth, or top... So if you were

46:20

to drop a vaccine at a vaccine

46:22

clinic onto the floor, the hazmat guys

46:25

were coming. You're not allowed to just

46:27

pick it up if it's a mercury-containing

46:29

vaccine. hazmat people have to come and

46:32

take that away. Yet we're okay to

46:34

take a portion of that vial and

46:36

inject it into a child, a three-month-old

46:39

child. How does that work? It doesn't

46:41

sound logical. Six month old actually. There

46:43

was also the issue with the different

46:46

types of mercury, right? There was, is

46:48

it methyl and ethyl? The two different?

46:50

Yeah. Apparently ethyl is good and methyl

46:53

is bad according to Paul Offett. well,

46:55

senior vaccine scientist. But the fact of

46:57

the matter is, once mercury is methylated,

47:00

like fish can methylate mercury and they

47:02

can get rid of it. Once we

47:04

demethylate mercury, it's in us until you

47:07

do something like something called kelation where

47:09

you can put a chemical into the

47:11

body that can grab onto it and

47:14

pull it out through your urine. Otherwise,

47:16

you're stuck with it. In my opinion,

47:18

all mercury is bad, shouldn't be put

47:21

into humans, shouldn't be in our food

47:23

sources, shouldn't be in our environment, except

47:25

for in the net. Look, you can

47:28

even find uranium in nature, right? It's

47:30

what people do to it to concentrate

47:32

it and how they use it, that

47:35

becomes a problem. Wasn't the issue that

47:37

one of them, I don't know, it's

47:39

methyl or ethyl mercury, leaves the body

47:42

quicker? Yes, it's ethyl mercury that leaves

47:44

the body quicker because methyl is a

47:46

it's a it's a chemical that gets

47:48

put on to it naturally and Apparently

47:51

I'm not an expert on mercury poisoning,

47:53

but apparently methyl mercury. We don't have

47:55

the ability to excrete but ethyl mercury

47:58

we do Yeah, but wasn't there also

48:00

an issue that it crosses the blood-brain

48:02

barrier? Well Anytime there's inflammation anything can

48:05

cross the blood brain barrier. It's the

48:07

aluminum that we really know crosses the

48:09

blood brain barrier and that's still in

48:12

back. scenes today. Yeah, anyway, we'd get

48:14

into blood brain barrier if you want

48:16

to. That's a whole other story. But

48:19

yeah, so mercury, obviously it can get

48:21

into the brain. It's found in the

48:23

brain. It can get into, you know,

48:26

your adrenals and your other glands and

48:28

important areas of your body. And even

48:30

the thing is that even at such

48:33

low levels can cause problems, no neurotoxin.

48:35

There's no place for circulating or being

48:37

deposited in the human body in any

48:40

form. But isn't it fascinating that they've

48:42

done such a good job? promoting this,

48:44

that people are going to get outraged

48:47

at what you're saying. They've done such

48:49

a good job. Welcome to my life.

48:51

And you've got a lot of courage.

48:54

I don't want to commend you for

48:56

that because writing that book and being

48:58

here talking about it takes a lot

49:01

of courage. And it's from regular people

49:03

who want to believe the vaccine. They're

49:05

scarier than anybody. The people that are

49:08

just rabid vaxers. and they stand for

49:10

science, like they're the warriors for science,

49:12

and they get very aggressive about it,

49:15

and they don't even want to breach

49:17

the subject. They don't even want to

49:19

look at it. Because the more you

49:22

look at it, if you're a logical

49:24

rational person without like a deep-seated ideology

49:26

attached to vaccines, and you just look

49:29

at the reality of it, you just

49:31

go, what is this? Like how did

49:33

you trick people and do injecting, how

49:36

many a year now for kids? What

49:38

is it? In the 70s? We're in

49:40

the 70s. I believe we're in the

49:42

70s. That's insane. Yeah. And then you

49:45

want to demonize anybody who says anything

49:47

about vaccine side effects. You are the

49:49

craziest of kooks. They come down you

49:52

with the hardest publicity campaign. It's so

49:54

transparent. You see it coming a mile

49:56

away and you're still shocked by how

49:59

blatant it is. And no one wants

50:01

to look at the actual issue itself.

50:03

And no one wants to say, like,

50:06

well, is she right? If you're right.

50:08

And I think you're right. Like, we've

50:10

been. lied to and we've been tricked

50:13

into thinking that this is all settled

50:15

science and that's what's infuriating it's not

50:17

that it's anti-science it's like this is

50:20

not science what you guys are doing

50:22

it's not science you've subverted you've you've

50:24

perverted that notion and you've you've done

50:27

it an amazing way I mean hats

50:29

off to you what they've done in

50:31

terms of like brainwashing people to believe

50:34

that all this is It's not just

50:36

necessary, but it saved millions of lives

50:38

in anybody that is against it in

50:41

any way, shape, or form, is it

50:43

quack and you should be deplatformed and

50:45

never talked about again and polite public

50:48

society and cocktail parties, you'll be shunned.

50:50

Yeah. Well, the way they were able

50:52

to get away with it is 226

50:55

years worth of propaganda, because the fact

50:57

of the matter is that ever since

50:59

the beginning of the smallpox vaccines, there

51:02

have been vaccine deaths. The reason, and

51:04

look, we've added, I brought you a

51:06

special copy. This is a limited edition.

51:09

In the 10th anniversary edition, we added

51:11

200 pages. We added a chapter called

51:13

the white plague. The white plague is

51:16

also tuberculosis. Turiculosis was a side effect

51:18

of the... of the smallpox vaccine. Tuberculosis

51:20

rates were rampant. In fact, the inventor

51:23

of the smallpox vaccine, his child died

51:25

of tuberculosis and so did his two

51:27

test subjects that he used. And it

51:30

was well known to follow smallpox. Lots

51:32

of doctors talked about it. But in

51:34

about two or three years after the

51:37

vaccine was... accepted in England, you hear

51:39

doctors speaking out about it, cursing the

51:41

day they ever agreed to do it

51:43

to people, to children, to anybody. And

51:46

so what happened is that the government

51:48

came down harder and started making it

51:50

mandatory and would take your furniture away

51:53

and started intimidating the doctors. And that's

51:55

an age-old thing as well. And I

51:57

experienced it. And any doctor that's ever

52:00

stepped out of line and said something

52:02

bad about vaccines will either be intimidated

52:04

or worse. 220 years of propaganda. And

52:07

so I'm just going to give you

52:09

one example. And I'll give you a

52:11

copy of this to have. And you

52:14

can put it up later if you

52:16

want. But in 1984, so much going

52:18

on in so much going on in

52:21

terms of the public learning about the

52:23

problems with the diphtheria tetanus pertus vaccine

52:25

and the polio vaccines, that a federal

52:28

register was issued by the government and

52:30

went to all health departments in the

52:32

United States, which is supposed to have

52:35

just kept there and never circulated. And

52:37

it said quote. Any doubts whether or

52:39

not well-founded about the safety of the

52:42

vaccination program must not be allowed to

52:44

exist. That's literally what it said. It's

52:46

straight out of, you know, London. So

52:49

you had that and then you have

52:51

the changing of the goalposts and the

52:53

outright lies within scientism because it's not

52:56

science, it's the religion that calls itself

52:58

science and we still are a victim

53:00

of that today. Most science today is

53:03

sponsored by the very people that are

53:05

going to profit from it and I

53:07

think Even, look, even Jenner who invented

53:10

the smallpox fancy never did a scientific

53:12

study. He never did a controlled study.

53:14

He never did non-vaccinated people, vaccinated people,

53:17

and then exposed them to smallpox in

53:19

a large enough group. He would cowpox

53:21

them and then expose them to smallpox,

53:24

and it was well known that smallpox

53:26

followed cowpox. So it's just been... Look,

53:28

again, I never expected to be here.

53:31

I just wanted to be a healer.

53:33

I just wanted to be a doctor.

53:35

I wanted to be a nephrologist and

53:37

teach medical students and make the world

53:40

a better place for people. That's all

53:42

I ever wanted. This is a nightmare

53:44

for me actually, too. While I've met

53:47

some incredible people and I've had a

53:49

really good life and I have no

53:51

regrets and I would do it all

53:54

again, no doctor wants to be put

53:56

in a position where their integrity is

53:58

doubted. called it is called Rational wiki,

54:01

I think maybe Maybe. Anyway, I'm

54:03

considered a sith lord, a very, and

54:05

in fact I didn't know what a

54:07

sith lord was back then. I had

54:09

to actually look it up, so I'm

54:12

like Darth Vader. So it was a

54:14

bit of a compliment, but on the

54:16

other hand, most doctors can't tolerate being

54:18

called quacks or having the reputation destroyed.

54:20

And, you know, I went from treating

54:23

the CEO of, actually the head of

54:25

the laboratory at my hospital for hypertension

54:27

for hypertension to becoming, you know, somebody

54:29

that was doubted on every levels after

54:31

which was, can we stop giving vaccines

54:33

to my sick patients, to people who are

54:35

having chemotherapy while they're having chemotherapy, to my

54:38

patient before I've even seen them on the

54:40

ward? Can we just hold this up and

54:42

give it to them on the ward? That

54:44

was my request in the day of discharge.

54:46

That was my request in the beginning. That's

54:48

how this all landed here. And had they

54:51

not tried to intimidate me, doubt me and

54:53

pushed me to research and show that what

54:55

I saw was actually real, I would still

54:57

be lockstep working as a regular doctor because

54:59

there were some good things about it. Look,

55:01

even if you look at what happened

55:04

with COVID, let's just look at that.

55:06

Like how did they pass this off?

55:08

Look at the media today. Do you

55:11

know that they're giving COVID vaccines to

55:13

six-month-old children now? We know how bad

55:15

is, we know that it ruins stem

55:18

cells in pregnant women. They don't give

55:20

stem cells to their babies. The industry

55:22

is upset because the placentas no longer

55:25

have stem cells. They used to use

55:27

those stem cells in research and cosmetics,

55:29

etc. They're not getting them anymore because

55:32

of the COVID shots, because of the

55:34

cosmetics, etc. They're not getting them anymore

55:36

because of what the COVID shots did

55:38

to the COVID-40. There were two snake

55:41

genes in there. You know, it's a

55:43

definite gain of function. Nope, we gotta

55:45

put it on the vaccine, the baby

55:47

vaccine schedule. Because any doubts whether or

55:49

not well funded about the vaccination must

55:52

not be allowed to exist. That's why.

55:54

That sounds like a religion. And it's been

55:56

gone on. It sounds like a crazy cult

55:58

that the whole world's been sucked. into giving

56:00

a COVID shot to a baby today is

56:03

insane. Three of them. They get three by

56:05

the certain. You'd have to look up the

56:07

schedule, but I believe it starts at

56:09

six months and they get three of

56:11

them kind of boom, boom, boom. Are

56:13

doctors really recommending this?

56:15

It's on the, look, there's a

56:17

group of people called ACIP, the

56:19

doctors, usually with vaccine interests in

56:21

their bank accounts, that make the

56:23

recommendations for the vaccines. And they've

56:26

recommended that. that's six month old.

56:28

So if your doctor is following

56:30

the ACIP program, you have to

56:32

be offered that vaccine. And now

56:34

that doctor, this is another part

56:36

of the story, is that doctor's

56:38

likely to lose $250,000 a year

56:40

if they don't do that because

56:42

there's incentive given to hospitals and

56:44

doctors, which is what. Naively, I

56:46

was on the other end of when

56:49

I woke up in 2008 and said,

56:51

wait a minute, why are we doing

56:53

this stuff to my sick inflamed patients?

56:55

You're giving more inflammation. It's because the

56:57

hospital would lose something like $40,000 if

56:59

they didn't give a vaccine within the

57:01

first 24 hours of admission. Oh my God.

57:04

and they would get 40,000 if it

57:06

was all a money game. That's really

57:08

the bottom line of it. And I

57:10

didn't know that until a nurse years

57:12

ago who was a high-level administration, she

57:14

said, Suzanne, this is why they did

57:16

that to you. Oh, wow, okay. Well,

57:18

at least it makes sense now. Nobody

57:20

wants to think of it as

57:23

a business. Nobody wants to think

57:25

you're making business decisions at the

57:27

expense of someone's health and

57:29

possibly whether or not they make it. Well,

57:32

that's been the case since, you

57:34

know, basically the medical profession was

57:36

infiltrated in the early 1900s by,

57:38

you know, high-level interests that didn't

57:40

want us thinking for ourselves and

57:42

carrying on with the natural cures

57:44

that actually work, carrying on with

57:46

normal midwifery. There was just so

57:48

many changes that happened as a

57:50

result of best practice medicine, not

57:53

to mention, you know, the forming

57:55

of the AMA by a couple

57:57

of real quacks. That's a really

57:59

good story. the AMA would give

58:01

their stamp of approval. So

58:03

say you created an infant

58:05

formula, well, they would say

58:07

AMA approved and your infant

58:09

formula would sell even better.

58:11

Remember when doctors smoked camels because

58:14

camels were bad? Those are the

58:16

days. And this is also the

58:18

time when this coincides with when

58:21

Rockefeller was designing the school

58:23

system, right? Well, first Rockefeller,

58:25

I think oil was one of their primary investments.

58:27

Oh, so you want to talk about the school

58:30

system? No, but he did both, right? He was

58:32

a part of both. So he was a part

58:34

of, he, the reason why natural cures are so

58:36

easily dismissed and why it's so dismissed, because

58:38

Rockefeller put the entire medical establishment on oil-based.

58:40

That's right. So all pharmaceutical drugs that are

58:42

made by using oil. Yeah. And he did

58:45

it because he sold oil. You know that

58:47

one of the ironies? It kind of works.

58:49

Yeah. Yeah, like, like, I got, I got, I got rid

58:51

of a really bad case of a really bad case of a

58:53

really bad case of a really bad case of a case of

58:55

mange of mange a mange and a mange and a dog by

58:57

keros. but in kerosene diluted in olive

58:59

oil and they had been through everything.

59:01

They could not get rid of this

59:03

mange on this beautiful dog. Oh wow.

59:06

It was a cane corso dog and

59:08

yeah so uh... Manes is horrible for dogs.

59:10

Really bad but one spray it was done.

59:12

I had a dog that I picked up, careful around

59:14

the you know flames and stuff. I

59:16

had a dog that I picked up off

59:19

the street and took her in and she

59:21

had horrible mange but it all went away

59:23

with just food. I just gave her healthy

59:25

food. No, we can't. Joe, come on, you had to

59:27

have an expert help you. No care scene.

59:29

No nothing. Just love food and love.

59:31

Food and love. That was an argument

59:33

I had in the hallway once with

59:36

the senior chief of medicine. He was

59:38

like, he would always say, so how

59:40

are you today? Normally be like, good.

59:42

You know, superficial conversation. I said, I'm

59:44

having real trouble with, you know, the

59:47

H1N1 vaccine. My patients getting, kidney failure

59:49

after getting kidney failure after getting, after

59:51

getting kidney failure after getting it. No, they

59:53

just didn't have time to take effect. And of course, and

59:55

I heard every kind of sound bite in the book from

59:57

them, which I didn't know were sound bites at the time.

1:00:00

And then he said, well, what do you

1:00:02

think has happened with meningitis in these college

1:00:04

kids? I'm like, oh, come on, that's a

1:00:06

total no-brainer. It's like their nutrition goes down

1:00:09

the tubes when they leave home. They're smoking,

1:00:11

they're staying up all night long, they're hanging

1:00:13

out with their pals. They're doing everything they

1:00:15

couldn't do when they were, oh. you've got

1:00:18

to be kidding me, so you think it's

1:00:20

their food that's causing problems? And I was

1:00:22

like, well, what medical school did you go

1:00:25

to? Like, I was actually taught that nutrition

1:00:27

matters and how it matters and why it

1:00:29

matters. But that's been almost completely thorough.

1:00:31

Like, if you want to sneak vitamin

1:00:33

C into somebody's hospital room, you know

1:00:36

the best way to do it? Don't

1:00:38

bring in jar vitamin C, because they

1:00:40

will stop. say, off you go, that's

1:00:42

perfectly fine, that's going to be great

1:00:45

for this person, this child. That's how

1:00:47

you can get it in, because they

1:00:49

think that McDonald's is wonderful. In fact,

1:00:51

McDonald's are kind of situated proximal to

1:00:54

a lot of hospitals, and the McDonald's,

1:00:56

Ronald McDonald's, Ronald McDonald's houses are there

1:00:58

and everything else. But bring in a

1:01:00

homeopathic or magnesium or vitamin C, and you've got

1:01:02

to get permission for it and go through so

1:01:04

much red tape, and a lot of time you'll

1:01:06

be told. No, you can't give it because,

1:01:08

oh, you'll cause bowel necrosis, you'll

1:01:10

cause diarrhea, you'll cause kidney stones,

1:01:13

everything in the book that doesn't

1:01:15

actually happen with vitamin C. It's

1:01:17

what most, look, they've measured vitamin

1:01:19

C levels on people that enter

1:01:21

hospitals, and pretty much everybody's deficient

1:01:24

or on the border of deficient

1:01:26

when they enter, and pretty much

1:01:28

everybody when they leave has got borderline

1:01:30

scurvy. If not full. full scurvy. Fortunately

1:01:33

they go home and start doing other

1:01:35

things and can rebuild some of their

1:01:37

vitamin C scores, but there's a lot

1:01:39

of subclinical scurvy walking around out there

1:01:41

and those are the people that are

1:01:43

going to do the worst with a

1:01:45

vaccine and then they're going to do

1:01:47

the worst with a vaccine and they're

1:01:49

going to do the worst with subclinical

1:01:51

scurvy in modern society just from poor

1:01:53

diet. Well you know it's not just

1:01:55

the poor diet so any kind of

1:01:57

stress will consume vitamin C, vitamin C.

1:01:59

and they tell you that you only

1:02:02

need 190 milligrams a day, that's the

1:02:04

FDA requirement. Wow. So you just have

1:02:06

a few cigarettes and you've depleted your

1:02:08

stores, so we don't make our own

1:02:11

vitamin C as humans, humans and guinea

1:02:13

pigs, you know, that's, we don't, we

1:02:15

don't do that. And so we have

1:02:17

to consume it. And we're reliant upon

1:02:20

our fruits and vegetables or supplements to

1:02:22

do, or if you eat organ meat,

1:02:24

you can eat the adrenals that are

1:02:26

loaded with it. But aside from that,

1:02:28

your fruits and vegetables that are going

1:02:31

to give it to you. So if

1:02:33

you're under a lot of stress or

1:02:35

you're taking medication or you have a

1:02:37

lot of inflammation or you have a

1:02:40

lot of inflammation or arthritis, whatever, that's

1:02:42

going to consume vitamin C, because vitamin

1:02:44

C is an antioxidant as well as

1:02:46

an antiviral. If you have, you can

1:02:48

see kind of a red line on

1:02:51

some people's gums. They're probably vitamin C

1:02:53

deficient. If your gums are bleeding a

1:02:55

lot when you floss, you probably need

1:02:57

some vitamin C. and you know you

1:03:00

could have an infection too but it

1:03:02

will deal to the infection as well

1:03:04

as the integrity and the collagen inside

1:03:06

of your bones and your soft tissues

1:03:09

I mean it's it's like one of

1:03:11

those things that's so important it should

1:03:13

be given upon admission to every hospital

1:03:15

and what's really crazy is if you're

1:03:17

one of those people that thinks that

1:03:20

all you need is a balanced diet

1:03:22

and you're eating like a piece of

1:03:24

chicken and some lettuce yeah if you're

1:03:26

not consuming like some sort of liposomal

1:03:29

vitamin C supplement if you're not taking

1:03:31

something on top of that you're probably

1:03:33

not at an optimal level to survive

1:03:35

anything which is it's also it's like

1:03:38

part of why we have so many

1:03:40

metabolic diseases we have bad metabolic health

1:03:42

we have metabolic diseases like they shit

1:03:44

it should be super obvious like oh

1:03:46

everyone's like really unhealthy doesn't have any

1:03:49

nutrients in their system and they're all

1:03:51

getting really sick from all these different

1:03:53

things yeah You need medicine. You need

1:03:55

a shot. You need a this. You

1:03:58

need a this. You need to get

1:04:00

on this. You need to get off

1:04:02

that. Get back on. this. And you're

1:04:04

a hippie, if you want to just

1:04:07

eat Kewi fruits and get your vitamin

1:04:09

C from that or have oranges or

1:04:11

broccoli, oh my gosh broccoli makes you

1:04:13

a total hippie or kale, forget about

1:04:15

it. Nuts. See we have a different

1:04:18

kind of malnutrition today than then we

1:04:20

describe in the book. Back then it

1:04:22

was people were toxic from basically drinking

1:04:24

poop water and being worked to death

1:04:27

and having diseases all around them. And

1:04:29

so they were... protein calorie malnutrition as

1:04:31

well as vitamin as well. Today we

1:04:33

have kind of disnutrition, you know, like

1:04:36

D.Y.S. disnutrition and that everyone's fat so

1:04:38

they don't really look malnourished. Pretty much,

1:04:40

you know, you go on a cruise

1:04:42

or you go to the beach. You

1:04:44

even skinny people have big bellies now.

1:04:47

Big belly is the thing. What was

1:04:49

that? I said, go to Bert Chrysler's

1:04:51

house. Who's that? My friend? Okay. But

1:04:53

you know, so today we've got inflamed

1:04:56

guts from, you know, glyphosate and, you

1:04:58

know, the wheat that's been altered to

1:05:00

make us inflamed and then just the

1:05:02

chemicals that are added to our food

1:05:05

and the vitamins that actually don't help

1:05:07

us and set us back that are

1:05:09

fortifying our, you know, bread and milk,

1:05:11

lack of vitamin D. So we have

1:05:13

a different kind of a problem, but

1:05:16

essentially causing the same bodily dysfunction. Yeah,

1:05:18

the wheat thing I used to think

1:05:20

was nonsense until I ate pasta and

1:05:22

bread in Italy. And I was like,

1:05:25

okay, why do I feel so much

1:05:27

better? Yeah. Why do I not feel

1:05:29

like I just ate poison? Because I

1:05:31

love, like pizza. Oh, I love it.

1:05:34

I love lasagna. Oh, I love it.

1:05:36

I love it. It's so good. But

1:05:38

after it's over, I'm like, I'm incapacitated

1:05:40

for like an hour or two. for

1:05:42

like a two hour period, you're just

1:05:45

like a shadow of yourself, just ugh.

1:05:47

You think, oh, maybe it's just the

1:05:49

high carbs, but you just proved that

1:05:51

it wasn't because in Italy you were

1:05:54

okay with it. I ate a whole

1:05:56

pizza in Italy and I was waiting

1:05:58

for it. I was like, I'm gonna.

1:06:00

I eat this margarita pizza, it's so

1:06:03

good, they made it in a brick

1:06:05

oven. I was like, this is so

1:06:07

good, I'm eating the whole pizza, I

1:06:09

don't care, I don't care what it's

1:06:11

gonna feel like afterwards. I ate that

1:06:14

whole pizza, and then I was like,

1:06:16

where is it? Is it coming? It

1:06:18

never came. Never came. I felt normal.

1:06:20

I felt like I just ate food.

1:06:23

I was like this is nuts like

1:06:25

no crash Yeah, the bread in Scandinavia

1:06:27

same That's what people used to eat

1:06:29

people don't know What's that? I said

1:06:32

that's what people used to eat like

1:06:34

real food people need to understand like

1:06:36

what they did was and this is

1:06:38

according to Maynard from tool. You know

1:06:40

Maynard Keenan the lead singer of tool

1:06:43

No. He actually runs a farm. He

1:06:45

has vineyards and he has like, like

1:06:47

he's Caducius is his wine label and

1:06:49

he's like really good at growing things.

1:06:52

Because he has a restaurant. He was

1:06:54

explaining to me that what they did

1:06:56

is they just engineered it to have

1:06:58

higher yield. So they put more, it's

1:07:01

got more complex gluten in it. So

1:07:03

it's not the normal organic wheat that

1:07:05

grows in Italy where they don't have

1:07:07

genetically modified crops. Right. So you still

1:07:09

get that flower and you can still

1:07:12

get that. pasta from Italy and it's

1:07:14

much more consumable. Yeah, definitely. But the

1:07:16

American stuff is just thick. It's just,

1:07:18

your body's like, what is this? It

1:07:21

just comes in like sludge. It is

1:07:23

interesting. It feels like I ate glue.

1:07:25

That's what it always feels like. Unless

1:07:27

it's really good sourdough bread, that doesn't

1:07:30

seem to have that. Yeah, kind of

1:07:32

agree. Like I'm not gluten sensitive, but

1:07:34

I definitely feel more awake when I

1:07:36

don't have it. Yeah, it's not good

1:07:38

for it. It's good on holiday. But

1:07:41

it's so delicious. You know, I know.

1:07:43

It's so delicious. But this is also

1:07:45

a problem. And this goes back to

1:07:47

when R.J. Reynolds was going through all

1:07:50

their stuff. It's so delicious. But this

1:07:52

is also a problem. And this goes

1:07:54

back to when RJ Reynolds was. and

1:07:56

it would. Thank you for smoking. Well

1:07:58

there's that. There was a movie where

1:08:01

Leonardo DiCaprio was young. and he was

1:08:03

sick and his doctor was prescribing cigarettes

1:08:05

to him. And like the mother was

1:08:07

saying, did you smoke your cigarettes? That

1:08:10

the doctor told you. You're like, you're

1:08:12

not smoking. Like you need to keep

1:08:14

up your health. Well, you know, there's

1:08:16

something to that. Well, you know, there's

1:08:19

something to that, because you know about

1:08:21

the nicotine receptors and you know the

1:08:23

smokers got less COVID than the rest

1:08:25

of us. Well, what happens? So. The

1:08:27

spike of COVID, which is the evil

1:08:30

part of COVID, has all these horrible

1:08:32

lab-engineered proteins encoded into them. And two

1:08:34

of them are snake toxin proteins that

1:08:36

bind on to your nicotineic receptors. Okay,

1:08:39

so if you can smoke nicotine or

1:08:41

take nicotine gum, then you're gonna block

1:08:43

those receptors up so that so you

1:08:45

can trade off some of the stuff

1:08:48

that's from the spot. What about like

1:08:50

nicotine pouches? Yes, like that would probably,

1:08:52

if you're having, you know, long COVID

1:08:54

or, you know, any kind of post-coVID

1:08:56

syndrome that's related to the nicotineic receptors,

1:08:59

you only know by trying it, but

1:09:01

listen, I always say start small. what

1:09:03

happens? Because nicotine is a powerful drug.

1:09:05

Try a cigar. Pick up the cigar.

1:09:08

Yeah, there you go. It's a wonderful

1:09:10

habit. Yeah, that was an uncomfortable thing

1:09:12

in the beginning of COVID that they

1:09:14

were saying that for some reason smokers

1:09:17

seem to be having a much easier

1:09:19

go of it. Like what? How do

1:09:21

you have a respiratory disease where smokers

1:09:23

are statistically speaking, getting less COVID? Yeah,

1:09:25

well I mean I've been around, I

1:09:28

did a tour one time and there

1:09:30

were two heavy heavy smokers on the

1:09:32

bus with me and they were the

1:09:34

only two people that didn't come down

1:09:37

with whatever flu with all the rest

1:09:39

of us got. Not even that flu

1:09:41

couldn't even live in their throats. It

1:09:43

kind of makes sense if you think

1:09:46

about it. Well it changes the polarity

1:09:48

of your mucus membranes, the charge of

1:09:50

the cells on your mucus membranes and

1:09:52

that... That's probably part of why even

1:09:54

the viruses can't adhere properly. We're not

1:09:57

encouraging cigarettes. No, we're not at all.

1:09:59

But we are saying it should be

1:10:01

non-cured, naturally cured, non-chemical, like American spirits,

1:10:03

like those kind of deals. I get

1:10:06

all my smoking friends to convert to

1:10:08

that brand. Does that help? Totally help.

1:10:10

Come on. Are you kidding me? You

1:10:12

know how many horrible carcinogens there are?

1:10:15

Do you know back in the native

1:10:17

days when they were smoking and people

1:10:19

were smoking natural cigarettes and people and

1:10:21

people were smoking natural cigarettes? American Spirit

1:10:23

cigarettes are not healthier. They're absolutely wrong.

1:10:26

It is. Market is natural and additive

1:10:28

free, which may lead people to believe

1:10:30

that they are a safer option. However,

1:10:32

there's no scientific evidence to support this

1:10:35

claim. They may even have higher levels

1:10:37

of nicotine than some other brands. But

1:10:39

the nicotine is not the problem. So

1:10:41

that's exactly right. Just by them saying

1:10:44

that there, that leads me to think

1:10:46

that this might be propaganda. Okay. But

1:10:48

I understand, but AI should understand that.

1:10:50

As Tony is Cliff. Oh, he smokes.

1:10:52

I know, I know he does. I'm

1:10:55

just saying, AI doesn't make sense. What

1:10:57

doesn't make sense is that it's saying

1:10:59

they might have more nicotine, but that

1:11:01

doesn't matter. They're not addressing the actual

1:11:04

question. I'm not saying to you, I'm

1:11:06

just saying to them, like, what their

1:11:08

writing seems to kind of be silly.

1:11:10

Marketing of American spirits as natural can

1:11:13

create a false sense of healthiness. which

1:11:15

may make it more difficult for people

1:11:17

to quit smoking. I think smoking companies

1:11:19

wrote this. I think the other companies

1:11:21

fed this information. I love the packages

1:11:24

to have the people spitting up blood

1:11:26

on the packages and stuff. Do you

1:11:28

see them? Oh, in England you get

1:11:30

those? Oh, they have it now. Oh,

1:11:33

they have an America here? They used

1:11:35

to have it in England. You go

1:11:37

to England and they had photos of

1:11:39

people with like rotten faces. That's right.

1:11:42

That's where I first saw it. But

1:11:44

it. But it's moved to the rest

1:11:46

of the rest of it. I know.

1:11:48

I know it. I know it. I

1:11:50

know it. I know it. I know

1:11:53

it. I know it's hilarious. I know

1:11:55

it. I know it's hilarious. I know

1:11:57

it. I know it's hilarious. I know

1:11:59

it. I know it's hilarious. I know

1:12:02

it's hilarious. I know it. It's hilarious.

1:12:04

It's hilarious. It's hilarious. It's hilarious. It's

1:12:06

hilarious. It's hilarious. It's hilarious. It's hilarious

1:12:08

It's like and they still buy them

1:12:11

and smoke them. Well the interesting thing

1:12:13

is, and I'm glad you brought this

1:12:15

up, is just cancer in general. There's

1:12:17

things that cause cancer that they're just

1:12:19

everywhere and there's a lot of things

1:12:22

in the environment can cause cancer, but

1:12:24

sometimes things get into medications that can

1:12:26

cause cancer. And what is SV40? I

1:12:28

just wrote down SB 40 while you

1:12:31

were talking. And I'm just going to

1:12:33

give you an example of what you're

1:12:35

saying is correct. The fact of the

1:12:37

matter is that all cancers and humanity

1:12:39

have gone up since the inception of

1:12:42

vaccination. In my opinion, my educated opinion

1:12:44

is that our lifespan should be 120

1:12:46

years. And I think with the knowledge

1:12:48

that we have and the wealth that

1:12:51

we have on this plan, ingenuity we

1:12:53

have on this planet, we should be

1:12:55

able to be touching the 120 year

1:12:57

mark more commonly than we do. So

1:13:00

when vaccines started... coming into humanity. We

1:13:02

started introducing animal disease into humanity through

1:13:04

the skin. And then we started doing

1:13:06

intermuscular injections after the hypodermic needle was

1:13:08

created, and then you started having deeper

1:13:11

injections of animal disease and of chemicals

1:13:13

and and mercuries and things like that.

1:13:15

So along comes polio research, and the

1:13:17

polio vaccine, even to this day, is

1:13:20

made on African-green monkey kidney cells. Now

1:13:22

the African green monkey kidneys early on

1:13:24

were basically taken out of their wild

1:13:26

habitat in India and millions of monkeys

1:13:29

were brought to the USA for use.

1:13:31

Unbeknownst to them and discovered by a

1:13:33

scientist named Dr. Bernice Eddie is that

1:13:35

there was a cancer-causing entity inside of

1:13:37

the... the substrate that they

1:13:40

were using to make the vaccine

1:13:42

on the Petri dishes. And that

1:13:44

entity was Simeon virus 40, called

1:13:46

SV40, because before there were 39

1:13:48

others discovered before it, now we're

1:13:50

up over 100. So that information

1:13:52

was suppressed heavily. Bernice Eddie was

1:13:54

offered a ticket to wherever she

1:13:56

wanted to go, and as much

1:13:58

money she wanted, and she said,

1:14:00

no, I'm staying. Long story short

1:14:02

is they just kept taking her

1:14:04

away from her work and distracting

1:14:06

her and there was another doctor

1:14:08

Jay Anthony Morris as well Anyway,

1:14:10

so the SB 40 was around

1:14:12

and then Maurice Hillman validated it

1:14:14

later and said it came from

1:14:16

the African Green monkey kidneys Now

1:14:18

it's benign in African Green monkey

1:14:20

SB 40 is not benign in

1:14:22

human beings in human beings. It

1:14:24

was called the perfect war machine

1:14:26

by Dr. Michelle Carboni who was

1:14:28

one of the primary researchers looking

1:14:31

at the carcinogenic potential of Simean

1:14:33

virus 40 would have been in

1:14:35

the live polio vaccines because there

1:14:37

was nothing to kill it, but

1:14:39

it was most likely also in

1:14:41

the killed and African green monkey

1:14:43

cells are actually still a listed

1:14:45

ingredient on vaccines. So you can

1:14:47

go ahead and look that up.

1:14:49

It's a fact. So how this

1:14:51

affects me is that I'm a

1:14:53

kidney specialist and I looked at

1:14:55

the curve of kidney cancers that

1:14:57

have gone up since the inception

1:14:59

of polio vaccines and SV40 introduction.

1:15:01

So what this virus does is

1:15:03

it enhances two cancer promoting genes

1:15:05

and it inhibits two cancer suppressors.

1:15:07

Okay, that's why it's called the

1:15:09

perfect war machine. So that was

1:15:11

in the vaccines that were injected.

1:15:13

And so the bad news is

1:15:15

that we don't need vaccines to

1:15:17

give it to us anymore because

1:15:19

we're going to give it to

1:15:21

each other forever and it's never

1:15:23

going anywhere. That was introduced to

1:15:25

humanity like a lot of other.

1:15:27

into some of them, and the

1:15:29

research was just put, this is

1:15:31

the other thing, the research that's

1:15:34

really important just gets killed, the

1:15:36

funding gets killed. In terms of

1:15:38

SV40 kidney cancers, there's no doubt

1:15:40

that the rate of kidney cancer

1:15:42

has gone up alongside with the

1:15:44

infection rate of humanity for SV40,

1:15:46

as well as diseases like glomerulonophitis,

1:15:48

which they do find. the pathogen

1:15:50

genetic material inside. And even in

1:15:52

the old days, they found it

1:15:54

in the tumors but not the

1:15:56

surrounding areas. So that just tells

1:15:58

you that it was a stimulant

1:16:00

for the tumor cells to just

1:16:02

start. propagating. So that's just one

1:16:04

of the things that, that's just

1:16:06

one of many, many of the

1:16:08

obvious ones. And even though it's

1:16:10

been well defined in the medical

1:16:12

literature, you will still see that

1:16:14

they only admit that it causes

1:16:16

mesotheliomas and one other thing, not

1:16:18

that it causes all the other

1:16:20

things that it does, that it's

1:16:22

been shown to cause in the

1:16:24

other medical literature that got its

1:16:26

funding revoked. So SV40 is now

1:16:28

contagious amongst people? Most of us

1:16:30

probably have had it one time

1:16:32

or other, you know, whether it's

1:16:34

lying dormant in our kidneys. It

1:16:37

depends on, it'll, everything depends on

1:16:39

your background immunity, which depends on

1:16:41

what you're doing for fun and

1:16:43

not fun and how you're eating

1:16:45

and how much you're sleeping, etc.

1:16:47

How much sun you're getting, sweating,

1:16:49

sweating gets rid of a lot

1:16:51

of stuff. It's really good to

1:16:53

sweat. It's just such a disturbing

1:16:55

thought that this was introduced to

1:16:57

people through vaccines and now is

1:16:59

spreading. And what is the what's

1:17:01

the like the worst health impact

1:17:03

that it could have if it

1:17:05

spreads to you and not through

1:17:07

a vaccine? If you didn't get

1:17:09

it through this vaccine and you

1:17:11

just get it from another person.

1:17:13

Oh, it's the same thing. It's

1:17:15

not going to make much difference

1:17:17

in terms. It'll it'll gravitate to

1:17:19

your kidneys. Obviously, it probably goes

1:17:21

to lung as well. brain tumors

1:17:23

were a big problem with it

1:17:25

back in the polio days. Dr.

1:17:27

Michel Carboni was looking at the

1:17:29

brain tumors with that. There's a

1:17:31

really good book called The Virus

1:17:33

and the Vaccine by Book Chin

1:17:35

and Schumacher. It's an incredible book

1:17:37

that details everything about those years.

1:17:40

The scientists involved the suppression, the

1:17:42

oppression, the lies, the skull dugery.

1:17:44

Then they would bring in the

1:17:46

scientists who had no experience in

1:17:48

actually detecting SV40 and actually detecting

1:17:50

SV40 and lo and behold he

1:17:52

couldn't find it. He was the

1:17:54

one that got to make the

1:17:56

ultimate statement on whether... S.V. 40

1:17:58

causes human disease or not. And

1:18:01

just how could they keep injecting that

1:18:03

into people if they know this? Oh,

1:18:06

and the stocks that contained SV40 were

1:18:08

still basically being used by the vaccine

1:18:10

manufacturers up into the 1990s and probably

1:18:12

beyond, because there's two different kinds of

1:18:14

SV40. You're making me remember a whole

1:18:17

bunch of things that I thought I

1:18:19

forgot, but there's the fast. dividing and

1:18:21

there's the slow dividing there's two different

1:18:23

kind of strains of it and the

1:18:25

original test though when they made a

1:18:28

vaccine they would test it for 14

1:18:30

days looking for SV40 if it didn't

1:18:32

have it off you went your your

1:18:34

vaccine was good to go but The

1:18:37

problem is there was a slower dividing

1:18:39

SV40 that remained in the vaccines that

1:18:41

were injected and probably in the stocks

1:18:43

that are, the stock is basically like

1:18:45

your mother tincture or whatever. It's what

1:18:48

you use to kind of inoculate all

1:18:50

the new batches over time. And so

1:18:52

the stocks were found, again, quote, Dr.

1:18:54

Terny Stanley Cops quote in the book

1:18:56

about the SV40 still being in the

1:18:59

stock up and through the 1990s. And,

1:19:01

you know, God only knows if there's,

1:19:03

if it's, if it's still. if they're

1:19:05

still using those same stocks, I don't

1:19:08

know, because I haven't gone into the

1:19:10

more modern times of SV40. But yeah,

1:19:12

we all have it, and there's no

1:19:14

doubt in my mind that it's just

1:19:16

like another one of the things that

1:19:19

the parasites have finally pretty much put

1:19:21

into us to set us back. Demons.

1:19:23

It's like real world demons. It's so

1:19:25

crazy that someone would know this and

1:19:27

still have this as an ingredient in

1:19:30

a vaccine. Well, they'll say that it

1:19:32

was just an unfortunate set of events

1:19:34

that happened because they took wild monkeys

1:19:36

from India. See, I could work for

1:19:39

them. That's their excuse. And they say,

1:19:41

we cleaned it up, you know, we

1:19:43

started our own monkey colonies, and we

1:19:45

started breeding our own monkey colonies that

1:19:47

were now found to be free of

1:19:50

SV40. The only problem with that is

1:19:52

that, as I said, they had already

1:19:54

inoculated humanity, and it's with a virus

1:19:56

that can be spread vertically and horizontally

1:19:59

as the scientists would describe. given it

1:20:01

to each other. I think there are

1:20:03

going to be very few people walking

1:20:05

around today that haven't been introduced to

1:20:07

it. Have there ever been a comparison

1:20:10

of pre cancer rates, pre SV 40,

1:20:12

and post SV 40? Yeah, that's what

1:20:14

I'm talking about. That's what I did

1:20:16

is I... And one of my videos

1:20:18

I did that and looked at the

1:20:21

cancer rates since they were, you know,

1:20:23

so again, what they'll say is, well,

1:20:25

we just didn't look at the rates

1:20:27

beforehand, but the rates were quite low

1:20:30

before. You can know what the surgical,

1:20:32

what the neph rectumies were. So it's

1:20:34

kind of an easy thing to look

1:20:36

at because that's the treatment for kidney

1:20:38

cancer. You take the kidney out because

1:20:41

you got another kidney and it's a

1:20:43

slow growing tumor even though it can

1:20:45

metastasize. the rate has skyrocketed for kidney

1:20:47

cancers. Pretty much everybody knows somebody who

1:20:49

had a kidney cancer. And that was

1:20:52

not common? No. And

1:20:55

also these protein losing diseases, which is,

1:20:57

again, it's not controversial. It was documented

1:20:59

when they looked at the areas that

1:21:01

were affected in the kidney, which with

1:21:04

these horrible disease that makes people lose

1:21:06

the proteins that need to stay in

1:21:08

their blood in their body, out into

1:21:10

their urine, that the SV40 was related

1:21:12

to that. It's called focal and segmental

1:21:14

chlameral sclerosis sclerosis, and it's a real

1:21:17

problematic disease in children and adults. Ultimately,

1:21:19

you have to go on horrible chemotherapy

1:21:21

drugs that ruin your immune system, and

1:21:23

then transplant... if you can't stay on

1:21:25

top of it. Big money maker. Now

1:21:27

do I think that that was the

1:21:30

purpose? Look, I don't know what was

1:21:32

in the hearts and minds. I don't

1:21:34

know what was accidental or what wasn't,

1:21:36

but I do know that there was

1:21:38

intentional suppression of the truth. Any doubts

1:21:40

whether or not well-funded must not be

1:21:43

allowed to exist. That is a fact,

1:21:45

and it's always been that way, and

1:21:47

there have been scientists and doctors talking

1:21:49

about that since the beginning of vaccination.

1:21:51

It's just too horrible to believe for

1:21:53

most people I think and then also

1:21:56

you're correct it goes against religious dogma

1:21:58

You know especially with people that are

1:22:00

like firmly on the left, trusting the

1:22:02

science and trusting the experts. Those are

1:22:04

two things at the front. It's kind

1:22:06

of a child like. situation that humanity

1:22:09

and most of humanity is in is

1:22:11

that there you know I think most

1:22:13

people are good and they want to

1:22:15

believe everybody else is good and they

1:22:17

want to believe that the government is

1:22:19

looking out for them and it's really

1:22:22

it's a kind of horrifying imagine if

1:22:24

it was true that your government actually

1:22:26

wasn't looking out for you and that

1:22:28

might be the one of the causes

1:22:30

of your decreasing lifespan imagine that if

1:22:32

the government might not care so much

1:22:35

if your baby ends up with no

1:22:37

stem cells or your baby gets cancer

1:22:39

or autism which will Hello. Like do

1:22:41

we, how many, I don't even want

1:22:43

to start with that, but that was

1:22:45

another thing where there was no doubt.

1:22:47

whether or not well-funded allowed to exist

1:22:50

what came to autism. And every autistic

1:22:52

parent of an autistic child will tell

1:22:54

you this. Everyone that's tried to lobby

1:22:56

and get to the truth with autism

1:22:58

will tell you that the brick walls

1:23:00

and the plexiglass and the lead walls

1:23:03

that went down were intense and still

1:23:05

are intense. And the lying studies that

1:23:07

they used to uphold vaccines don't cause

1:23:09

autism are so easy to dismantle. But

1:23:11

you know, Joe, you know, the lie

1:23:13

gets around the earth three times before...

1:23:16

the truth has a chance to get

1:23:18

out of bed. And that's just pretty

1:23:20

much what happens when the media is

1:23:22

owned. And like, you're like one of

1:23:24

the cracks in the matrix here, quite

1:23:26

frankly. I think for a lot of

1:23:29

people, it's too horrible to believe, especially

1:23:31

if they have an autistic child, that

1:23:33

this was caused by a vaccine. having

1:23:35

autism, and then later was shaming people

1:23:37

for not taking the COVID vaccine. That's

1:23:39

how strong the impulse is, and that's

1:23:42

how good the propaganda was, and that's

1:23:44

how cowardly a lot of people are

1:23:46

when it comes to fighting against a

1:23:48

narrative. They get very scared of being

1:23:50

socially ostracized and they just they can't

1:23:52

speak their mind. They can't tell the

1:23:55

truth and they'll whisper it to maybe

1:23:57

this one guy that they're friends with

1:23:59

like hey, you know, I don't want

1:24:01

to take it man, but I have

1:24:03

to for work like yeah, I don't

1:24:05

trust them either. But you know, I

1:24:08

don't trust them either. But you know,

1:24:10

don't tell anybody said that. You know,

1:24:12

you don't want anybody thinking. saying that

1:24:14

it's it may be goulish to laugh

1:24:16

when unvaccinated people die but it might

1:24:18

be necessary like what? A few of

1:24:21

us have to take one for the

1:24:23

team. It was just the weirdest propaganda

1:24:25

campaign and people were doing the job

1:24:27

of the man. It wasn't the man

1:24:29

forcing the people to do this thing.

1:24:31

It was people doing the job of

1:24:34

the man. and going after the people

1:24:36

that hadn't stepped in line and I

1:24:38

think for a lot of people it's

1:24:40

like they felt terrible that they had

1:24:42

to do it but if they did

1:24:44

it now I'm righteous now I'm on

1:24:47

the good side why don't you do

1:24:49

it too man I fucking did it

1:24:51

you should do it too you should

1:24:53

do it too you're fucking selfish you

1:24:55

get a lot of that you know

1:24:57

you get a lot of people who

1:25:00

they know they made a mistake and

1:25:02

they want you to make that mistake

1:25:04

too you know Yeah, it would be

1:25:06

good to know what really goes through

1:25:08

their heads. I think COVID was, again,

1:25:10

it was unique, but when you talk

1:25:13

to parents who have autistic children, the

1:25:15

vast majority of them, not only know

1:25:17

absolutely without a doubt that their child

1:25:19

became autistic, usually within 24 to 48

1:25:21

hours after a certain vaccine, but that

1:25:23

every doctor told them it wasn't the

1:25:26

case, and then they go digging deep

1:25:28

into the scientific literature and learn how

1:25:30

to sometimes resuscitate that child's brain or

1:25:32

detox them and then recover them. and

1:25:34

then they're actually beaten up even worse

1:25:36

for doing that because they're just narrow

1:25:39

diverse you know there's nothing wrong with

1:25:41

your child they're just quirky no your

1:25:43

child banging its head against the wall

1:25:45

walking around the baby bottle and a

1:25:47

diaper at the age of 18 your

1:25:49

big hairy son doing that. That is

1:25:52

not neurodiverse quirkiness. That is a serious

1:25:54

pathological disease that probably could have been

1:25:56

dealt to at the time and should

1:25:58

have been prevented. It should have never

1:26:00

happened. So most parents that have that

1:26:02

situation are on fire. It's a minority

1:26:05

that will say have the situation that

1:26:07

you have right now. Most of them

1:26:09

that's a wake-up call, which is why

1:26:11

they get beat up and suppressed even

1:26:13

worse than I do. But when it

1:26:15

comes to COVID, there was, the psychological

1:26:18

campaign I think was very effective in

1:26:20

that people that I would have never

1:26:22

imagined took the jab. Like friends of

1:26:24

mine who in a million years would

1:26:26

have, I would have bet my life

1:26:28

that they would say no to it,

1:26:31

didn't want it, we're really upset about

1:26:33

it later, but nonetheless did it. I

1:26:35

see I didn't lose any friends during

1:26:37

COVID because I had already lost them

1:26:39

back in like 2009. My family and

1:26:41

friends were solid. My tribe is here.

1:26:44

But yeah, so, but. I still love

1:26:46

this person and she's like really upset

1:26:48

about it, but it's like it just

1:26:50

shows you that the psychological campaign like

1:26:52

to get into that person's brain was

1:26:54

really into like, but I don't know

1:26:57

about you, but there was, I never

1:26:59

had a doubt. I never had a

1:27:01

doubt. I never, I was like, well,

1:27:03

you're going to shut me down, shut

1:27:05

me down, you know, it's not me

1:27:07

from traveling. I hadn't read your book

1:27:10

yet. And I was all gung-ho to

1:27:12

get the vaccine. And the UFC had

1:27:14

allocated 150-something vaccines for all their employees.

1:27:16

We were doing shows during the pandemic.

1:27:18

So I showed up in Vegas, asked

1:27:20

for the shot. They said I couldn't

1:27:23

do it. I had to do it

1:27:25

on Monday at the clinic. I couldn't

1:27:27

do it at the UFC. I was

1:27:29

like, OK, fine. And they said, can

1:27:31

you come back in two weeks and

1:27:33

do it during the next UFC fight?

1:27:36

I said, fine, I'll do it then.

1:27:38

During that time, it got pulled from

1:27:40

the market. for bloodclots. Which one, which

1:27:42

job was it? Johnson-Johnson. Okay. And then

1:27:44

two people I knew who got it

1:27:46

at strokes. Okay. In that two weeks.

1:27:49

Yes. Well you've got a few angels,

1:27:51

don't you? Yeah, and I was like,

1:27:53

hold on. And then my whole family

1:27:55

got it. There was like a bunch

1:27:57

of things that happened. My whole... family

1:27:59

got it and everybody was fine and

1:28:02

I didn't get it and I was

1:28:04

trying to get it like I had

1:28:06

sex with my wife I hugged my

1:28:08

kids no I didn't get it but

1:28:10

you didn't get the jab either no

1:28:12

Yeah. No, I didn't, but I didn't

1:28:15

get it first time around. I was

1:28:17

like, this is crazy. There was two

1:28:19

days when I went to the, because

1:28:21

I was trying to get it, and

1:28:23

it was, which sounds horrible, but I

1:28:25

was like, I just wanted to not

1:28:28

get it. I just wanted to get

1:28:30

over it. Like, my kids got over

1:28:32

it so fast. My kids got over

1:28:34

it so fast. My kids got over

1:28:36

it so fast. It's so fast. My

1:28:38

kids got over it. It's got over

1:28:41

it. It. It's over it. It's over

1:28:43

it. It's over it. Like, it. Like,

1:28:45

it. It's over it. Like, it. It's

1:28:47

over it. Like, it. Like, it. It's

1:28:49

over it. It's over it. It's over

1:28:51

it. It. It's over it. It. It.

1:28:54

It. It. It's over it. It. It.

1:28:56

It. It. It's over it. It's over

1:28:58

it. It. It. It. It. for them

1:29:00

I was like no way like it's

1:29:02

not I'll do it if I have

1:29:04

to work just say no way like

1:29:07

what what did you think about it

1:29:09

that you didn't even want your child

1:29:11

to get it just in case totally

1:29:13

unnecessary so no need to risk it

1:29:15

totally unnecessary They got COVID, they got

1:29:17

over it like that. Before the vaccine.

1:29:20

Before the vaccine. But this is before

1:29:22

the vaccine. So after the vaccine. So

1:29:24

after that, I was like, there's no

1:29:26

way. Because there was pressure from their

1:29:28

friends to get vaccinated. I was like,

1:29:30

you're not getting vaccinated. You have seven

1:29:33

times better immunity than someone who gets

1:29:35

vaccinated, which is just antibodies. Right. That's

1:29:37

right. So, uh, it's that TH2 slant

1:29:39

that we were talking about. For me,

1:29:41

with my kids, it's, it's like they're

1:29:43

vaccinated. But we did it on a

1:29:45

delayed schedule because that's what my doctor

1:29:48

recommended and we had a really good

1:29:50

pediatrician and it worked out great. They're

1:29:52

fine. But I was a little worried.

1:29:54

I thought it was quack-like to be

1:29:56

worried, like this is science, like back

1:29:58

then what could vaccines could do to

1:30:01

the kids? The regular ones. hepatitis B

1:30:03

one. That one was like, when I

1:30:05

hear that, I'm like, what are you

1:30:07

talking about? You're going to give a

1:30:09

kid for a sexually transmitted disease, a

1:30:11

vaccine when they're a baby. A one

1:30:14

day old baby. That's crazy. And also,

1:30:16

is there immune system even working? Right?

1:30:18

I mean, will it even accept this

1:30:20

and turn it into an antibody? Have

1:30:22

you approved that? Like you're just jabbing

1:30:24

kids? They've proven that the child, the

1:30:27

infant will make antibody and that's all

1:30:29

they ever have to prove. What they

1:30:31

don't ever want to prove is that

1:30:33

when you give, like say your child

1:30:35

had gotten a COVID vaccine, there's something

1:30:37

called original antigenic sin, they changed the

1:30:40

term to linked upitope suppression, it happens

1:30:42

with flu shots, it happens with lots

1:30:44

of different vaccines, is that if you

1:30:46

program your body to attack, you know,

1:30:48

a virus rather than you are injecting

1:30:50

against, and then a different strain comes

1:30:53

along. It actually has negative efficacy. You

1:30:55

are one that's more likely to succumb

1:30:57

to terrible problems from the infection than

1:30:59

because of your vaccine rather than actually

1:31:01

protecting you. And that's been a well-known

1:31:03

look. Anthony Fauci writes about it. Morins

1:31:06

and Fauci wrote a paper basically admitting

1:31:08

everything. I think it was in 2023

1:31:10

or 2024 about these shots, and he

1:31:12

said the COVID shots are exactly the

1:31:14

same as the flu shots. Despite that,

1:31:16

despite Bouchy and Morin's talking about how

1:31:19

these shots would never have been licensed

1:31:21

if they were held to the same

1:31:23

standards of DPT, etc., etc., that they

1:31:25

don't provide lung immunity, only provide blood

1:31:27

immunity, negative efficacy, their conclusion at the

1:31:29

end of it is that we must

1:31:32

make better vaccines, more effective vaccines, to

1:31:34

add to the already existing vaccine program.

1:31:36

It's not that we shouldn't do this.

1:31:38

It's not that we should pull this

1:31:40

off the market. That's always the logic.

1:31:42

Again, they are not, they never will

1:31:45

admit to any problem with vaccines to

1:31:47

take it off the market. It's always

1:31:49

adding to it, not removing a vaccine.

1:31:51

Okay, you think it was bad? Let's

1:31:53

start six months now. Six month old

1:31:55

babies with parents that are just like

1:31:58

you back in the day going, okay,

1:32:00