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Joe! Oh, he's a pleasure! Great

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to see you guys always!

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What the fuck's happening? Welcome

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to America! We love being

0:19

here so much, Joe! Your

0:21

country just keeps getting weirder

0:23

every time you visit. Every

0:25

time you visit I want

0:27

to ask you about some

0:29

new videos brother. Let's be

0:31

honest. Guilty is charged. I

0:33

think we're really close to

0:35

like proof that the simulation

0:37

is real. This is why

0:39

things are so preposterous. Do you

0:41

know I try and argue against

0:43

that and then I see what's

0:46

happening in all our countries and

0:48

I'm like you know what, fine.

0:50

Probably you've got a point now.

0:52

Yeah, you know when I really

0:54

started, we were actually talking about

0:56

this yesterday, I really started to

0:58

genuinely consider it, like, like one of

1:00

those where it like snuck in through

1:03

my defenses, my logical defenses, when this

1:05

girl, Heather McDonald, blacked out on stage

1:07

while she was making jokes about being

1:09

vaccinated, and then she blacks out and

1:11

cracks her skull. Have you seen that?

1:14

Yes. Legitimate. There was the first time

1:16

in my life. I was like, there's

1:18

no way. I was like they're fucking

1:20

with us. Yeah, they're just fucking with

1:22

something's that can't be so dead on

1:24

like this is like God is a

1:26

script writer Like how is that a real

1:28

thing that that's a video where

1:30

someone it's she didn't do it

1:32

when she was making fun of

1:35

her boyfriend? She didn't do it.

1:37

She's talking about idiots in traffic. It

1:39

was when she was talking about

1:41

the vaccine And how,

1:43

you know, I, even still got

1:45

my period. So Jesus loves me

1:48

more than, boom. Like, there's no

1:50

way. It's too good. The timing

1:52

was exquisite. You couldn't

1:55

have, if you had a movie where

1:57

that was a scene, you couldn't.

2:00

have scripted or timed it any

2:02

better? Well you would tell her

2:04

and drop. There's no way! I

2:06

started legitimately wondering then and I

2:09

know that's a stupid example I'm

2:11

very aware of you like you

2:13

fucking more wrong all the things

2:15

in the world there's plenty of

2:18

examples. Jesus loves me the most.

2:20

Look at this. And the audience

2:22

is laughing, probably the best life

2:25

she got all night, right? Because

2:27

it's a big move. It's a

2:29

big move. You know, if you're

2:31

a prat fall person, no one

2:34

expects it, like, oh, that's hilarious.

2:36

If it goes with the bit,

2:38

you know. And it's timed perfectly,

2:41

absolutely. What's that quote? God is

2:43

a comedian playing to an audience

2:45

too afraid to laugh. What a

2:47

great who said that it was

2:50

either I've said it and it's

2:52

either Voltaire or Camu I can't

2:54

remember which one you'll find out

2:57

Yeah, but yeah, but that's a

2:59

quote God is a comedian playing

3:01

to an audience too afraid to

3:03

laugh If that happened to me

3:06

there you go if that happened

3:08

to me my Russian grandmother we

3:10

were just like God is punishing

3:13

you Yeah, and that's why Russians

3:15

are scary to fight listen yeah

3:17

we have business to discuss yeah

3:19

yeah it just seems fake there's

3:22

so much seems fake you know

3:24

it's like all the the news

3:26

just the people that are politicians

3:29

that everyone feels like they're like

3:31

who's the Federman character this guy

3:33

is wearing a hoodie and shorts

3:35

that's his that's the wacky neighbor

3:38

you know and then Jasmine Crockett

3:40

she's that loud-mouthed lady from down

3:42

the street and the like oh

3:45

here comes Jasmine she's gonna get

3:47

crazy you know and Maxie Waters

3:49

like she's all over it's like

3:51

these are fake people Nancy Pelosi

3:54

this giant tiddied lady who wants

3:56

all the money We've been in

3:58

politics for 150 years. There's pictures

4:01

of her. Kennedy. I didn't realize

4:03

Nancy Pelosi was well endowed.

4:05

Oh boy. Oh boy. Really?

4:07

Yeah. You've done the research.

4:10

Well there's all these photos

4:12

where people are calling her.

4:14

What's a gilf? A grandma

4:17

you'd like to? Yeah. You

4:19

never seen her boobs? No

4:22

disrespect Mrs. Pelosi. I admire

4:24

her first stock choices.

4:26

But fantastic. Those are, those are

4:28

legit. You know, I gotta say

4:30

this is a great start to

4:32

the podcast and we aren't even

4:34

stones. How did you not know?

4:36

You're a grown man. Look at

4:38

the size of those fucking sweater

4:41

hammers. That is incredible. That has

4:43

made me a lot more in

4:45

favor of Congress right there. Hold

4:47

that, go to that last picture.

4:49

This one might not have been,

4:51

but it seems fake, but it

4:53

might be like from the Clinton

4:55

administration. These deep state vampires as

4:57

hot as Nancy Pelosi used

4:59

to be. Deep state vampire,

5:01

no disrespect Miss Pelosi. They've

5:03

been around in the system

5:05

forever. Like the relationships that

5:08

those people make and the control that

5:10

they establish and the roll of

5:12

decks and I got shit on

5:14

Lindsay and Lindsay's got shit on

5:16

this guy and it's like Jesus.

5:18

It's a fucking dirty business man.

5:20

Oh, it's crazy. It's the dirtiest.

5:22

It's the dirtiest business. It's the

5:24

dirtiest business in the world. You

5:26

know what I think now that when

5:28

I look at politics, and you look

5:31

at wrestling, and I remember criticizing like

5:33

people who watch soap operas, I remember

5:35

in just going, oh they're so dumb,

5:37

and I remember my ex-going to me, she

5:40

went, Francis, you like soccer, that's

5:42

just soap opera, but for men. And

5:44

when you think about it, it kind

5:46

of is. We just buy into a

5:49

different soap operas. Except soccer is happening

5:51

for real. And the soap opera is

5:53

just a dumb pretend of a goofy

5:55

life that's not real. Yeah, but politics

5:58

is kind of soap opera. We're like

6:00

adults. Yeah sure. I think it's teams

6:02

for adults for sure. For people that

6:04

don't like sports, it becomes like a

6:07

giant part of their, it's like a

6:09

guy with a Cubs hat. You know,

6:11

I'm fucking Chicago Cubs, the lie, die.

6:13

Don't like die, bro. Chicago Cubs, one

6:15

day we're gonna pull it up. Like

6:17

people in Chicago, they fucking the liver,

6:20

you'll fight you, if you don't like

6:22

the Eagles, they will fight you. Like

6:24

if you go to a Philadelphia Eagles

6:26

game. And that's crazy, you're both Americans,

6:28

like this is the dumbest thing of

6:31

all time, like ones from a different

6:33

city, so they're your enemy, because they

6:35

support a different football team. We do

6:37

it with everything. I know you find

6:39

that shocking job in England, in Britain,

6:41

that is like run of the mill.

6:44

So in the 70s and 80s, each

6:46

football team, and to some extent now,

6:48

they had their own words called a

6:50

firm. which are these hooligans whose only

6:52

thing, they didn't really give a share

6:55

about the football, the soccer, they would

6:57

get together with the supporters of the

6:59

firms of other teams to have fights

7:01

in the car park outside the stadium.

7:03

And they will travel all around the

7:05

country doing that. So it's actually the,

7:08

this one thing I love about American

7:10

sports, like you can go to the

7:12

game with your kids and not worry

7:14

about the stuff that people are gonna

7:16

be screaming and shouting, all that violence.

7:18

You are a lot more chilled out

7:21

than we are in Europe about that

7:23

stuff, believe it or not. Oh, I

7:25

do believe it. I do believe it.

7:27

But any like group like that, like

7:29

soccer, traveling group, you're gonna attract some

7:32

fucking psychos that hop along. It's like

7:34

when the grateful dead go on tour.

7:36

cult members to recruit with acid in

7:38

the parking lot. For sure, it's going

7:40

to happen. Yes. For sure. If you're

7:42

like a psycho cult leader and you

7:45

want to pick up some people, you're

7:47

going to go to a place where

7:49

everyone's on acid. You're going to go

7:51

to a fish concert and explain to

7:53

them, you know, you guys, I know

7:56

you're in between apartments right now, we

7:58

have an amazing community and everyone's accepted.

8:00

And next thing you know you're in.

8:02

an acid with this fucking weirdo and

8:04

you know he's in the low disposition

8:06

and you're all pretending that this is

8:09

normal. But you know what's really interesting

8:11

about soccer is that that hooligan element?

8:13

That's not just in the UK. That's

8:15

right the way through Europe and in

8:17

South America. It's New Zealand too, right?

8:20

Don't they duke it out in New

8:22

Zealand? No, no, it's not New Zealand.

8:24

Yeah, rugby is kind of different because

8:26

football with the hooligan element. So in

8:28

Italian soccer, for example, they have what

8:30

the hooligans are called, the Ultras. And

8:33

they're so powerful that if the team

8:35

is playing badly. Then what the captain

8:37

has to do he then gets to

8:39

in some instances? The altars have have

8:41

blockaded the stadium Refused that the players

8:43

leave and that the the captain is

8:46

then demanded to go and have a

8:48

meeting with their head ultra. Oh my

8:50

god the

8:53

kind of pressure while you're playing a

8:55

world-class soccer match. Yeah, so then this

8:57

kid, and let's be fair, he's a

8:59

kid in his mid to late 20s

9:01

probably, then has to go out and

9:03

have a meeting with his 40-year-old tattooed

9:05

psycho and then explain to him exactly

9:08

why the team is underperforming. Wow, that's

9:10

basically what professional sports is especially soccer

9:12

is like you're you're trying to do

9:14

your best in front of 50,000 people

9:16

who are all screaming that you're a

9:18

cut. Yeah That's basically it In that

9:20

sense, fighting is more pure. Because people

9:22

don't really get upset at a fighter

9:24

for losing. You really more like celebrate

9:26

the other guy for winning. You know,

9:28

it's very rare the fighter gets demolished

9:30

for losing. Like they would have to

9:33

lose in a specific way. Like they'd

9:35

have to quit somehow. But there's none

9:37

of that in the U.F.C. Because to

9:39

get at that level, you can't have

9:41

any of that in you. By the

9:43

time you get to the big show,

9:45

like those guys are tried and proven.

9:47

they they're not there's no cowards in

9:49

that group you know so they don't

9:51

get that same kind of criticism that

9:53

athletes have which is one of the

9:55

because it's also it's like literally your

9:58

life's on the line like it's it's

10:00

a different thing you're doing than just

10:02

a sport which is why the regular

10:04

kind of journalism doesn't work in MMA

10:06

like sports journalism in the United States

10:08

at least is like super insulting like

10:10

everybody's he's a bum he's lazy he

10:12

doesn't do the work in the off-season

10:14

and we're seeing it now he's a

10:16

fun Like, that's what they like to

10:18

do that. Same in the UK, man.

10:20

You do that about fighters, and they'll

10:23

find you, all right? They'll fucking smack

10:25

you in your face. Like, this is

10:27

their soul, their bearing in front of

10:29

the world. And for you, some fat

10:31

guy chewing Adderall and typing into a

10:33

Mac book air, fuck you! Like I'll

10:35

smack you in your fucking head, he's

10:37

a terrifying human being, trying his best,

10:39

and you have to describe it that

10:41

way, because it's a different thing than

10:43

someone who doesn't hit free throws. It's

10:45

a different thing. Did you ever hear

10:48

the story? I think it was a

10:50

guy called Curtis Woodhouse. It was someone

10:52

like that. So it may not have

10:54

been Curtis, but it was someone of

10:56

that ilk. Wasn't that heavy? He was

10:58

a middleweight champion, but he wasn't European

11:00

or world, but he was a British

11:02

middleweight champion, but he was a British

11:04

middleweight champion, which is still a huge

11:06

achievement. Huge, huge achievement. Anyway, so this

11:08

kid was trolling him online and saying

11:10

all this horrendous stuff. And the guy

11:12

just responded, he went, right, I've had

11:15

enough now and I'm coming to find

11:17

you. And the kid was just like,

11:19

yeah, you're going to come and find

11:21

me. And he goes, bro, I know

11:23

you live in Birmingham. And the kid's

11:25

like, yeah, but Birmingham is a big

11:27

place. He went, no, I know people,

11:29

and we will get your address. And

11:31

then so he then started posting photos

11:33

on his Twitter going driving to Birmingham

11:35

to see you. And then he went,

11:37

oh, and then he took a photo

11:40

of the sign of the sign of

11:42

his town of his town. and when

11:44

I'm coming to see you. And then

11:46

he took a forward the board. of

11:48

his road and he went you best

11:50

come out because we're going to be

11:52

talking and the kid just went and

11:54

just apologize and he went that's cool

11:56

bro and he just went knocked on

11:58

his door and had a conversation with

12:00

him Jesus and he was just like

12:02

look and what was the kid what

12:05

did he look like It was just

12:07

like this little fat kid. But we're

12:09

giving people the power and the tools

12:11

that they don't deserve. And I don't

12:13

say that they don't deserve it as

12:15

human beings. I mean... You're not capable

12:17

of handling this kind of responsibility to

12:19

be able to reach out to a

12:21

middle-way champion and call him a pussy.

12:23

That's a crazy thing to do, and

12:25

if you're like 15 years old and

12:27

you have this ability, you shouldn't have

12:30

a license to do that yet. It's

12:32

almost like a driver's license. Maybe you

12:34

should have an internet license. No Billy,

12:36

you can't post another picture of your

12:38

dick. You fucking psycho. You know, like,

12:40

you can't just put up permanently. Things

12:42

that could ruin your entire life when

12:44

you're 15. Maybe there should be that

12:46

maybe it should be like all kids

12:48

internet until they're 21 Everything they post

12:50

it disappears in 15 seconds and you

12:52

can't take a screenshot of it Let

12:55

them be kids. Don't like like people

12:57

are getting fired for a fucking post

12:59

they made when they were in high

13:01

school where someone digs up some old

13:03

Facebook post they made joking around when

13:05

they were in high school Yeah, well

13:07

we interviewed someone, have you seen Adolescence,

13:09

this thing that's doing, it's supposed to

13:11

be the most watched thing on Netflix,

13:13

it's on course. I've heard of it,

13:15

but I haven't seen it. Yeah, so

13:17

it's about, uh, spoiler alert, so if

13:20

you don't want to just tune out,

13:22

but it's basically about a 13 year

13:24

old kid who, uh, he's getting bullied

13:26

by a girl at school. She calls

13:28

him an insull or whatever, and he

13:30

goes and stabs her and kills her

13:32

and kills her, and kills her, and

13:34

kills her, and kills her, and kills

13:36

her, and kills her, and kills her,

13:38

and kills her, and, and, and, and,

13:40

and, and, and, and, and, and, and,

13:42

and, and, and, and, and, and, and,

13:45

and, and, and, and, and, and, and,

13:47

and, and, and, and, and, and, and,

13:49

and, and, and, and, and, and, And

13:51

it's all about that and we had

13:53

a big we had this guy an

13:55

in-cell expert on to talk about a

13:57

guy who was actually in Austin here

13:59

wait a minute. He's an in-cell expert

14:01

Yeah, not practicing. That's why he came

14:03

to see us, Josh. Imagine that's your

14:05

field of choice. Yeah. You're like, you

14:07

know what? I'm going to find out

14:10

what's going on. He researches insults. He

14:12

actually works with David Bus. You've had

14:14

him on the show, right? Yes. Yeah,

14:16

yeah, we wanted to have him on.

14:18

Yeah, David Bus, evolution psychologist. Wait

14:20

a minute. You have had him.

14:22

Because I listened to the episode

14:25

just as how confusing. It is

14:27

to have two thousand five hundred

14:29

episodes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wait

14:31

a minute. What? Yeah. Sometimes I

14:34

hear about a guy. I'm like,

14:36

wow, that guy's interesting. Then I

14:38

Google. I'm like, fuck. Talked to

14:40

that. Talked to him seven years

14:43

ago. Two years ago. Yeah, my

14:45

brain's mush right now. Let me

14:47

see a photo of Mr. Bus.

14:49

Yeah. He's one of Mr. He's

14:52

one of Mr. He's one of

14:54

Mr. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,

14:56

yes. That guy was fascinating. He's

14:58

friends with Jordan. I went to

15:01

dinner with him in Jordan one

15:03

night. Yeah. Jordan Peterson. And yeah,

15:05

it's fascinating. And you know, that's,

15:07

it was also like super problematic

15:10

because he highlights the differences between

15:12

male psychology and female psychology. And

15:14

people want to deny that that's

15:16

a thing. So like, okay, well,

15:18

okay, with respect to trans people.

15:21

uh... you know use whatever pronoun

15:23

you like change your name but

15:25

can we are we allowed to

15:27

talk about the inherent differences between

15:30

males and females that we've observed

15:32

or we're supposed to ignore like

15:34

data and statistics in reality and

15:36

and a fucking eyes man that's

15:39

all the thing this is his

15:41

field of study his whole life

15:43

imagine you're field of study all

15:45

the sudden becomes problematic right let's

15:48

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15:52

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17:19

you're giving into the dumbest notions.

17:22

And it's happening, it's at scale,

17:24

and it seems like there's like

17:26

two factions in what I would

17:28

call like the American left right

17:31

now. There's the reasonable people that

17:33

are like, hey, hey, hey, we

17:35

gotta just stop being crazy. Don't

17:37

go all the way over there.

17:40

Stick where we're most people off.

17:42

And then there's people that we

17:44

got to go further left. Then

17:46

there's people that we got to

17:49

take over Tesla dealerships. We got

17:51

to light cars on fire. The

17:53

left is like justifying spraying Nazi

17:55

swastikas. on cars. Like this is

17:57

crazy. They've gone so far over

18:00

this. So there's one side that's

18:02

just like radicalized in the worst

18:04

way possible that's a huge detriment

18:06

to the Democratic Party because it

18:09

makes everyone look like a psycho.

18:11

If you have a psycho in

18:13

your groups, like if you have

18:15

like a white nationalist, you know,

18:18

Christian fundamentalist burning down black churches

18:20

in your and he says I'm

18:22

a part of the right as

18:24

a right wing conservative man, like

18:27

whoa. That guy poisoned the right.

18:29

Poisoning the left totally all the

18:31

people that don't want trans kids

18:33

competing with their kids in school

18:35

And they don't want gender ideology

18:37

be in talking class all those

18:39

people who are just rational normal

18:42

liberals that have voted Democrat their

18:44

whole life They're like what the

18:46

fuck? What the fuck? What are

18:48

you doing? Why are you letting

18:50

guys into the women's room? This

18:52

is bananas like what are you

18:54

doing in the name of compassion

18:56

like this is fucking insane? and

18:59

they're in this scattered thing where

19:01

they're trying to shit on everything he

19:03

does, hide all the good stuff. You

19:05

didn't hear a peep about Elon rescuing

19:07

those people. That should have been

19:09

on all of the news stories

19:11

all day long. We should have

19:14

had a live stream of it.

19:16

It should have been a huge

19:18

national event. We're finally going to

19:20

rescue the astronauts who are trapped

19:22

in the space station for eight

19:24

fucking months. And this super genius...

19:26

This Elon Musk character is the guy who

19:28

figured out how to go get them.

19:30

His company went and rescued them because

19:32

we can't do it anymore. We couldn't

19:34

rescue them. We had to rely on his

19:36

company and you only hear shit about it.

19:39

You don't hear shit about it. It's

19:41

crazy. You hear a few stories. They're

19:43

having a hard time coming back. Why

19:45

weren't they live streaming the whole thing?

19:47

That's a huge moment. You're recovering these

19:49

poor people. This is a giant special

19:51

interest story that would grab so many

19:53

headlines and it would have so much

19:55

ratings because everybody wants to see it.

19:57

Oh my God, they're going to get

19:59

the astronaut. You'd be sitting on your

20:01

couch with your family. Are you

20:03

going to get them? Is it

20:05

going to dock? Is it going

20:07

to work? You know? All that

20:09

shit. But nothing. Well, the hope

20:11

is, man, the reality is the

20:13

best teacher, right? So the Democrat

20:15

brand is so destroyed now, so

20:17

toxic, that they're going to have

20:19

to work something out, because if

20:21

not, they're just going to keep

20:24

losing. They're going to go with

20:26

Bernie and AOC. And that's why

20:28

they've been Astro-turf in all these

20:30

giant arenas, for people living it.

20:32

They did an analysis of, find

20:34

out if this is true, because

20:36

I read this on X. And

20:38

sometimes the community community knows doesn't

20:40

get there, doesn't get there in

20:42

time. But they were saying that

20:44

they claimed there was 30,000 people,

20:46

but they got all the cell

20:48

phone data and they found out

20:50

there was 24,000 cell phones. So

20:52

they fudged a little bit. That

20:54

sounds normal. But they also said

20:56

that a huge number of these

20:58

people had been to 20 plus

21:00

events and a lot of other

21:02

different, like, progressive events. And it

21:04

seems like at least on some

21:06

of them, for sure, they were

21:08

paying people. So they're giving people

21:10

money to get on a bus,

21:12

go to this place, here's your

21:14

sign, go have fun. And so

21:16

you're doing something different, right? You're

21:18

pretending that these people are all

21:20

coming out to see you. But

21:22

they're coming out to see you.

21:25

But they're coming out to see

21:27

you, because you're giving the money

21:29

and free food. And you know,

21:31

you handed out water bottles and

21:33

everybody gets a sign. And everybody

21:35

seems like they're kind of a

21:37

part of a team. And for

21:39

a lot of people who. Hey

21:41

man, you want to make 400

21:43

bucks and just go to this

21:45

Kamla Harris rally? I'm like, yeah,

21:47

let's go. I went 100% go.

21:49

I'm 100% go with no political.

21:51

And then I probably think she's

21:53

cool. I'm like, yeah, I'm fucking

21:55

voting for her, dude. He's Hitler.

21:57

That guy, we got to stop

21:59

Hitler. And I'd be holding up

22:01

that stupid side. If he found

22:03

me when I was 21, 100%

22:05

I want to take him that

22:07

400. I'm not sure about that,

22:09

but I think it was Tesla.

22:11

So they had like the rules

22:13

of engagement if someone comes after

22:15

you, hit them in the body,

22:17

don't pick up an object unless

22:19

they pick up an object first.

22:21

Like are you organizing gangs? Like

22:23

are you guys paying money for

22:25

people and then literally saying to

22:28

them, here's what happens if you

22:30

engage in violence? Like why is

22:32

that even on the table? I

22:34

thought you guys were peacefully protesting.

22:36

Like who's going to get, how

22:38

many pro- Tesla? fucking hooligans are

22:40

out there beating people up for

22:42

Tesla is it fucking zero I've

22:44

not seen a bunch of pro

22:46

Tesla gang members out there for

22:48

so what are you gonna encounter

22:50

with this anti Tesla movement the

22:52

police like who's gonna stop you

22:54

from doing who's gonna engage with

22:56

you like this is you're kind

22:58

of talking up in a way

23:00

that at least Puts it on

23:02

the table that violence might take

23:04

place. And you're praying people. Yeah,

23:06

and they because they destroyed language

23:08

now It sort of logically makes

23:10

sense right if these people are

23:12

Nazis If you actually thought they

23:14

were Nazis, like if you actually

23:16

thought Nazis had taken over your

23:18

country, you'd pick up a gun.

23:20

You shouldn't need a thousand bucks.

23:22

Free lunch. The thousand bucks and

23:24

free lunch is crazy. You need

23:26

to smooth things over. Make it

23:29

easier. Yeah, you need to subsidize

23:31

your movement. You know what I

23:33

mean? Yeah. You would have a

23:35

hard time doing a thousand bucks

23:37

one. I'd be like, bro, we're

23:39

going to jail. I'm not that

23:41

stupid. What happens if we get

23:43

arrested? Like, this guy's rich. I'm

23:45

like, he's definitely not gonna let

23:47

you light his fucking cars on

23:49

fire stupid. He's the richest man

23:51

on earth. Like, what are you

23:53

talking about? Yeah, but you are

23:55

someone who's got a family, you're

23:57

well adjusted. Like, if you look

23:59

at some- Even when I was

24:01

young, I had a survival instincts.

24:03

I don't want to be unkind,

24:05

but they don't look particularly well.

24:07

That's 100% true. And I think

24:09

we need to have a lot

24:11

of compassion for young people that

24:13

get caught up in these movements

24:15

and do silly things. And they,

24:17

even vandalism, they just need to

24:19

understand that that should never be

24:21

on the table. No violent acts

24:23

are ever justified, especially if not

24:25

someone's not being violent to you.

24:27

If you just started to just

24:29

go smash property and light things

24:32

on fire. You don't serve your

24:34

cause because rational, reasonable people are

24:36

not going to do that. They're

24:38

not going to light Starbucks on

24:40

fire because Black Lives Matter. That's

24:42

crazy. But if you get caught

24:44

up in this, fuck the corporate

24:46

thing, man, fuck the man, fuck

24:48

the banks, and fuck this, and

24:50

you just want to start lighting

24:52

things on fire, you're just serving

24:54

them because they will develop better

24:56

and stronger ways to crack down

24:58

on protest now. And all the

25:00

people that wanted to protest recently,

25:02

all the people that wanted to

25:04

express themselves and say, we stand

25:06

together to say that this is

25:08

wrong. Those people are all gonna

25:10

get hosed. Yeah. Because you lit

25:12

Starbucks on far, you fucking idiot.

25:14

And that's, but they're young. A

25:16

lot of these people, they have

25:18

fucking blue hair. They probably had

25:20

a shitty childhood. They're running around,

25:22

like, experiencing freedom for like, the

25:24

first time in the life for

25:26

like, the last 16 months, right?

25:28

parents house and they get caught

25:30

up in shit just like people

25:33

get caught up in being in

25:35

cults you know people get caught

25:37

up in all kinds of things

25:39

so we just have to have

25:41

more compassion for people and better

25:43

mentorship one of the real problems

25:45

is that kids go to universities

25:47

and almost universally they're given this

25:49

ideology that this whole university and

25:51

almost every university describes to and

25:53

it's like universal it's it's it's

25:55

it's uniform it's it's uniform it's

25:57

uniform it's it's but they're almost

25:59

all liberal. It's like, yeah, almost

26:01

all higher learning. There's only a

26:03

few conservative universities. It's just a

26:05

weird time for thinking and for

26:07

discourse and for deciding what team

26:09

you're on. It's like everyone's scared

26:11

and scrambling, you know, do we

26:13

go red or blue? It's just

26:15

that the whole country's in this

26:17

like weird state of disarray. And

26:19

it's very tribal and you see

26:21

it now as well, you know,

26:23

now that the right is in

26:25

political power. A lot of the

26:27

people who kind of made their

26:29

bones challenging the excesses of the left

26:31

are afraid to say anything about the right

26:34

as well, even though there's things to say

26:36

like I don't know if you followed the

26:38

signal group thing. Yeah, I did. I don't

26:40

know enough about it, but it does seem

26:43

like there's people that suspected it was a

26:45

setup. That guy was added to the chat

26:47

on purpose. Well, I think is that true.

26:49

I don't think so. I think the guy

26:52

who added him has basically said like it

26:54

was basically said like, like, it was just

26:56

a mistake. I don't think the investigation has

26:58

been done to say definitively, but I think

27:00

the White House said we're looking into

27:02

this, but Tulsa I think said it

27:05

was a mistake. I think Mike Walt

27:07

said it was a mistake. Such a

27:09

crazy mistake. Yeah. That's such a checks

27:11

and balances mistake? Like double check? Yes.

27:13

It's like, you know, when you go

27:15

on the road, like, do I have

27:17

my toothbrush? Yeah. Do I want to

27:19

work? You know what I mean? Like,

27:21

I even make a note on my

27:23

phone now. I'm like, I'm too stupid.

27:25

I always forget something. I was like,

27:27

fuck my, my, my this. You know,

27:29

it's kind of like adding

27:31

your ex-girlfriend to the

27:33

boy's WhatsApp group. Yeah. That's exactly

27:35

what it's like. That's such a

27:38

perfect analogy. What the fuck bro?

27:40

You know Pete Hex that swears?

27:42

You know, he's like, what the

27:44

fuck bro? You know she's gonna

27:47

talk. But how about the fact

27:49

that they said that they didn't

27:51

share any information about weapons or

27:54

like what was the exact quotes?

27:56

What did they say? So what

27:58

they were basically doing with explaining

28:00

how some shit was going to go

28:03

down. Yeah. They were debating how to

28:05

do the strikes, whether to do them.

28:07

There was some debate about that initially.

28:10

And then, initially this journalist, I think

28:12

he's editor-in-chief of the Atlantic, I think.

28:14

He... Which is the, he is like

28:17

the worst guy to get this information

28:19

too. Absolutely, right? He's probably jerking off

28:21

the whole time, salivating, like, yes! Yeah,

28:24

if you had to pick somebody, that

28:26

is not who you pick, right? But

28:28

you know, we had an investigative journalist

28:31

on the show, and we haven't released

28:33

the episode yet, but as part of

28:35

our after the show questions, he mentioned,

28:38

which is he said, which is he

28:40

said, gone from memory here so Francis

28:42

correct me but basically that signal had

28:45

been installed on government devices under the

28:47

previous administration so it may be the

28:49

case that that guy's number had been

28:51

pre-installed during that time and because of

28:54

that the mistake was then made to

28:56

Adam to the group So we don't

28:58

know exactly what happened, but at the

29:01

same time, what I'm saying is like

29:03

the White House admitted it and then

29:05

they started having a go at the

29:08

journalist. Like that is not his fucking

29:10

fault, that you added him to the

29:12

group, right? You know what I mean?

29:15

What's he supposed to do? Tell you,

29:17

hey guys, I've done that before. I

29:19

think he sent this text to the

29:22

wrong dude. Yeah. The journalist is never

29:24

going to do that, and that's not

29:26

his job to do that either, either,

29:29

either. when you're planning war, like this

29:31

is, first of all, it's so crazy

29:33

that the government doesn't have its own,

29:36

completely safe app. They do. I think

29:38

it's called a skiff or something like

29:40

that. It's a special place where you

29:43

go. No, but that's a room. I

29:45

mean, an app. Oh, you mean an

29:47

app? All right. Why did they not

29:50

have some encrypted super government app? You

29:52

telling me that you couldn't get like

29:54

a license from a signal to use

29:56

the code, the government throws all these

29:59

billions that are just they're finding billions

30:01

all over them there's like billions they've

30:03

cut like how many fucking billions is

30:06

Elon cut just from waste the trillion

30:08

he says yeah it's crazy and people

30:10

aren't celebrating it it's weird well put

30:13

it this way Joe until relatively recently

30:15

if not still we use faxes in

30:17

UK government wow that's crazy A lot

30:20

of... I think we got... You won

30:22

better. I think when people retire from...

30:24

What is it where they have to

30:27

retire where they have to write it

30:29

down on paper and then it's stored

30:31

in a vault? In a mine. It's

30:34

stored in a mine? Yeah. Social Security?

30:37

It's on paper. It's in a

30:39

mine. I love that press conference

30:41

as well because it's like Brett

30:43

Bair from Fox interviewing Elon and

30:45

like seven other Aspe guys and

30:47

they're all just rattling off numbers.

30:49

It's 10,000 filing cabinets 400,000 paper

30:52

documents But when you look at

30:54

it it basically hasn't changed since

30:56

the 1950s. Yeah, I'm distracted by

30:58

Brett Bair's hair. It's so beautiful

31:00

Fire that kind of hair. I'll

31:02

be so happy with so happy

31:04

with myself. You can't see any

31:06

scalp anywhere. It's just all hair.

31:08

It's like if you wanted to

31:10

like put a wig on a

31:12

bald guy like you would make

31:14

it like that like bro I'm

31:16

gonna make you hot Yeah, Gavin

31:18

Newsom has got incredible hair terrible

31:20

policies, but amazing hair The government

31:22

stores key retirement paperwork in a

31:24

converted mine But you know what's

31:26

crazy the limestone mine is real

31:28

and in the Department of Government

31:30

efficiencies cross hairs that is so

31:32

insane so now someone has to

31:34

go in there and take all

31:36

that stuff that's on paper in

31:38

the mine and put it in

31:40

a computer. They're saying they're going

31:43

to do it in two months.

31:45

Digitize that on two months. Adderall

31:47

is great. I'm so happy someone

31:49

invented it. That's what you mean.

31:51

Low-level autism plus Adderall. Problem solved.

31:53

I'm not accusing anyone of anything.

31:55

I just want to say. Shout

31:57

out to whoever made Adderall. Things

31:59

get done. But this is kind

32:01

of the greatest push. back against

32:03

like high level conspiracy theories. You

32:05

know when people go, they control

32:07

everything. You're like, dude, they have

32:09

a mind where they store stuff.

32:11

Come on. Yeah. You know what

32:13

I mean? Right. It's like the

32:15

perfect. Everybody thinks that everything is

32:17

a giant plot and some of

32:19

it is just sheer incompetence and

32:21

just years and years and years

32:23

of monotony. You know, or just

32:25

like the same stupid life over

32:27

and over again. No oversight. rampant

32:29

corruption everywhere all the lobbyists are

32:32

rich as fuck I mean look

32:34

at this file line look at

32:36

this is all this is all

32:38

the data but bro this is

32:40

you make such a good point

32:42

about nobody giving them credit I

32:44

don't know if you've ever had

32:46

access to other people's money like

32:48

in any way right taxpayer money

32:50

or anything but I can tell

32:52

you Francis and I we even

32:54

spent trigonometry which is our business

32:56

money differently to the way that

32:58

we spend our own because it's

33:00

slightly different it's not entirely yours

33:02

in the slight in the way

33:04

you know so when you're dealing

33:06

with billions of taxpayer dollars of

33:08

course it's getting wasted off course

33:10

it's going to corrupt shit Of

33:12

course. It's inevitable. What are you

33:14

a child? If no one's watching

33:16

them, duh. Right. Fucking duh, it's

33:18

what all people do. And the

33:21

question is, what I don't understand

33:23

is, look, I think it's very

33:25

possible that when you move quickly,

33:27

you're going to cancel some things

33:29

that you might not want to

33:31

cancel, things are not going to

33:33

go perfectly every time, whatever. But

33:35

ultimately, the question all Western countries

33:37

have to answer is, we should.

33:39

You were actually... Bro, you were

33:41

worse than we are. Really? Yeah,

33:43

you're a hundred and twenty-six percent,

33:45

we're about a hundred and ten.

33:47

God damn, really? Yeah. Wow. Yeah,

33:49

that's why you're trying to deal

33:51

with it. That's what Elon is

33:53

trying to do, is trying to

33:55

cut the deficit in half, and

33:57

then the idea is you grow

33:59

the economy, and you actually get

34:01

back to... here and two billion

34:03

there and all like the Stacey

34:05

Abrams one where they're gonna give

34:07

energy efficient appliances to poor people

34:10

yeah two billion dollars yeah like

34:12

what did you do like what

34:14

did you do like what did

34:16

you do like there's a bunch

34:18

of those like what did you

34:20

do like the high-speed internet one

34:22

yeah what did you do How

34:24

come you got billions of dollars

34:26

and fucking nothing happened? Imagine if

34:28

you were a private company and

34:30

you had a segment, like imagine

34:32

we were all a company and

34:34

we're like, Francis, I think you

34:36

should be in charge of figuring

34:38

out how to do this with

34:40

the phone. We've already fucked you.

34:42

I'm giving you four billion dollars

34:44

to get this done and then

34:46

I never talked to you again.

34:48

I never check in, I don't

34:50

say, I don't go, hey, where's

34:52

the fucking money being spent? What

34:54

are you doing, man? How come

34:56

the phone can't do this yet?

34:58

I don't, I don't ask for

35:01

any progress reports, you just keep

35:03

kidding money. This is bananas. It's

35:05

crazy. And for anybody who doesn't

35:07

want that to be more efficient,

35:09

like, what are you working for?

35:11

You're part of your day. is

35:13

the running of this government. You're

35:15

happy that it's being run like

35:17

this? You're happy that billions of

35:19

going to places that no one

35:21

can train. You have no receipts.

35:23

You don't know where it got

35:25

spent. You have no idea. And

35:27

that's legal. Yeah. When it comes

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gaming resources CDKNG.co/audio. Yeah it's sort

36:39

of like but I kind of

36:41

think about it like this it's

36:43

sort of the equivalent you know

36:45

those direct debits that come out

36:47

of your account yeah you just

36:49

like what's that? What's that? What

36:51

did I sign up for? I

36:53

cancel that gym membership what the

36:55

fuck yeah and it keeps coming

36:57

out you like you know what

36:59

I'll deal with it later. That's

37:01

kind of we've just got too

37:03

many direct debits and they're going

37:05

all over the place Well, it's

37:07

that but then there's the fear

37:09

that they're putting out there which

37:11

is the just fear that they're

37:13

gonna fuck up Social Security and

37:15

they're gonna fuck up Medicaid and

37:17

there's people that are relying on

37:19

that and they're gonna lose their

37:21

service for no they didn't know

37:23

how what the story is with

37:25

that. Like I know there's people

37:27

that have complained that the social

37:30

security website has been down, it's

37:32

been down a couple times, but

37:34

I don't know if people are

37:36

not getting their benefits. Do we

37:38

know? Can we find that out?

37:40

I haven't heard that job, but

37:42

I do some research. I think

37:44

it is inevitable that when you

37:46

do things this quickly. But that's

37:48

what everyone's afraid of, that the

37:50

vulnerable people, the people that we

37:52

should be protecting with these social

37:54

programs that we all agree with.

37:56

Those are the people we have

37:58

to protect the most. We have

38:00

to make sure that there's no

38:02

disruptions. You've got to make sure

38:04

before you do anything, there's no

38:06

disruptions. Before you shoot the bad

38:08

guy, make sure he's not holding

38:10

a baby. When people are on Social

38:13

Security, man, they're fucking, if that's not

38:15

a lot of money, right? And

38:17

so you know, they don't have any

38:19

money in the bank probably, and they

38:22

probably have it all budgeted out to

38:24

get on that check, and they're

38:26

probably real. with their food choices and

38:28

that's a rough life man and if

38:30

you cut that off for thirty days

38:33

ninety days for people okay never missed

38:35

a benefit payment you have social

38:37

security administration has never missed a

38:39

benefit payment now the continuity of

38:41

monthly checks for millions of Americans

38:43

could be at risk following changes

38:45

under the Trump administration former commissioner

38:47

Martin O'Malley says so it's saying

38:49

okay so the key points is

38:51

it's saying before this they've never

38:53

missed a benefit payment but it's

38:55

also not saying they are missing

38:57

them now it's saying it could

38:59

be at risk yeah okay it

39:01

just says threaten interruption of benefits

39:03

which is look what I would

39:05

say if I was a Democrat if I

39:07

wanted to make it look bad I would

39:10

say they're threatening your benefits and then people

39:12

going to a hot panic But you know,

39:14

I remember when I was teaching, and

39:16

I was teaching in schools that were

39:19

super deprived. Schools where the kids,

39:21

a lot of them would come

39:23

to school, they didn't have food

39:25

in their bellies, etc., etc. And

39:28

there's an agency in the UK

39:30

called Cams, which is Child and

39:32

Mental Health Services. And I remember

39:35

that we had so many kids

39:37

who had problems, psychological problems, particularly

39:40

if you grow up... poor deprived you

39:42

know you'd seen a horrible stuff when you

39:44

were a kid you had you know maybe

39:46

like a brother who got involved in gangs

39:48

is now in prison a father who was

39:50

never there there was so many kids who

39:53

had this need and they had conditions

39:55

which were undiagnosed whether it's something

39:57

like dyslexia or like your brother

39:59

got murdered you had some form

40:01

of PTSD and you had this you

40:04

know this agency which brought counselors in

40:06

which brought psychologists in and psychiatrists

40:08

who were experts dealing with kids and

40:11

I just remember because of austerity

40:13

you know this this agency got cut

40:15

after cut after cut and you're

40:17

looking at it and you're going like

40:19

I understand we need to cut

40:21

I understand we're running at a deficit.

40:24

But there needs to be balance

40:26

as well because when you're looking at

40:28

those type of agencies, they're really

40:30

important. They're really important. And also if

40:32

you invest that money and you're

40:34

able to support those kids, they're far

40:37

more likely when they leave school

40:39

to be a healthy, happier member of

40:41

society that's going to contribute tax

40:43

pounds sterling or tax dollars. Do you

40:45

think it's a reasonable request to

40:47

have... something that does that something that

40:50

helps feed poor kids helps educate

40:52

people like genuinely helps communities all around

40:54

the world completely separate from all

40:56

the other stuff that agency does because

40:58

like USAID was a huge huge

41:00

huge gigantic organization of a bunch of

41:03

different entities right which did some

41:05

good stuff yeah and a lot of

41:07

crazy shit like like but if

41:09

I was Someone who was you know

41:11

nefariously running things. I would definitely

41:13

mix up my regime change operation With

41:16

like giving food to poor people.

41:18

So look we're doing great stuff. We're

41:20

all great stuff. We're doing here's

41:22

what we're highlighting for this month. Like

41:24

feeding poor kids? What's wrong with

41:26

you? Yeah, and and no one even

41:29

knew that they had this enormous

41:31

budget that was is what is it

41:33

bigger than the Pentagon? Is it

41:35

bigger than the Pentagon? No, what is

41:37

what is point point six percent

41:39

of the budget or what was USAids

41:42

budget? Yeah, it's like point six

41:44

percent of the I know but like

41:46

what was the numbers? Did it

41:48

because it was Bigger than something, like

41:50

the amount of money that USA

41:52

aid pays. 21.7 billion for the fiscal

41:55

year of 20, 24.3% of the

41:57

6.8 trillion dollar overall federal budget. 6.

41:59

what trillion? That's so crazy. So

42:01

you just think just that money, how

42:03

much of that money is fraud

42:05

and waste? How much that money is

42:08

really good? How much that money,

42:10

like, that should be separate from, at

42:12

the very least, someone needs to

42:14

go in and audit and go, hey,

42:16

hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

42:18

well's good, given these people arms, because

42:21

you want them to overthrow that

42:23

government, that's probably not so good. Yeah.

42:25

Or maybe it is good. Maybe

42:27

it is good. It's like, you talk

42:29

to guys like Mike Baker, like

42:31

Mike Baker, who is very kind of

42:34

stoic about all this. You have

42:36

no choice, like you need to get

42:38

these people on your side in

42:40

certain parts of the world and this

42:42

is just how it works. And

42:44

if you don't do that, then China

42:47

does or Russia does and it

42:49

gets even worse for you. Yeah, because

42:51

that's also the thing we don't

42:53

get. Okay, this Nigerian journalist, who are

42:55

Nigerians? They run some of the

42:57

best fucking scams, shout out Nigerian scammers,

43:00

Nigerian journalists, falsely claims USAID budget

43:02

larger than CIA, state department combined. So

43:04

he falsely claimed it. That's a

43:06

big lesson and if you're gonna lie,

43:08

make it believable. You know what

43:10

I mean? Don't go too big. Isn't

43:13

it crazy that as much money

43:15

as they got, what was it, how

43:17

much billion? 21? Still. It's a

43:19

pittance. It is. That's a pittance compared

43:21

to the other things. You boys

43:23

have a lot of money, Joe. Isn't

43:26

that nuts? And we just keep

43:28

making it. Yeah. Do you know what's

43:30

bigger than your defense budget? Your

43:32

interest debt on the interest. Whoopsies. We

43:34

have the same. We're like crackhead

43:36

with an unlimited bank account. Yeah. That's

43:39

where we're like. Yeah. And this

43:41

is a difficulty about it because we've

43:43

got the same problem in European

43:45

countries as well. going to have to

43:48

not do some shit that we

43:50

really want to do because we have

43:52

been spending like crazy everywhere. And

43:54

when we like in the UK when

43:56

I look at those I think

43:58

we need that in the UK 100%

44:01

and some of it is going to

44:03

have to you know my overreach

44:05

then you pull it back you got

44:07

to make sure it's done properly

44:09

but We're not going to get away

44:12

from this man. We have been

44:14

living beyond our means for decades now.

44:16

Well, you can't have no oversight

44:18

of government spending. I think we're learning

44:20

that. That's fucking controversial, mate. You're

44:22

a Nazi. You're a Nazi. It's so

44:25

crazy to say that that's controversial,

44:27

but it is controversial to say. And

44:29

I would be saying it no

44:31

matter who the fuck is in charge.

44:33

That's right. It's just as human

44:35

beings. You can't let people have that

44:38

much control over your money. Always

44:40

they want to raise taxes on the

44:42

rich What they never want to

44:44

do is slash inefficiency and waste Yeah,

44:46

because that's what pays them That's

44:48

their that's their fucking system. They're locked

44:51

into this system. They're the last

44:53

people who should be commenting on it

44:55

because it's literally what pays you

44:57

like I can't trust you Like you

44:59

need more taxes, is that what

45:01

you need? You're like, dad, it's like

45:04

a cocaine kid of, that's a

45:06

kid of a billionaire. Dad, I need

45:08

more fucking money. These fucking business

45:10

assholes are trying to fuck me, and

45:12

I'm gonna buy them out now.

45:14

Like, okay son, here, we cut you

45:17

a check, get the fuck out

45:19

of here. That's what we're like, we're

45:21

insane. We're completely insane. It's also

45:23

as well, you know, it's because of

45:25

our electoral electoral system, everybody thinks

45:27

on the short term. Nobody thinks on

45:30

the long term. And also as

45:32

well, you're going to like, you go,

45:34

you talk about more taxes. And

45:36

you know, that's going to piss people

45:38

off. But it's not going to

45:40

piss as many people off as if

45:43

you fire great swathes of people,

45:45

particularly those that may vote for you.

45:47

Because we know, for instance, with

45:49

the Dems, that you're more likely to

45:51

vote for them if you're a

45:53

bureaucrat, if you work in government and

45:56

all that. Head injuries. As a

45:58

result, why are you going to piss

46:00

off the people who are more

46:02

likely to vote for you? Really, on

46:04

a logical basis, doesn't really make

46:06

much sense. But you know, it sounds

46:09

like we're slagging off the left,

46:11

and we are, because it's necessary. But

46:13

I can't wait for the left

46:15

to recover their sanity, because they're going

46:17

to be super necessary over time,

46:19

because when people get into power, they

46:22

do a lot of stuff, and

46:24

then eventually that power is corrupting. 100%.

46:26

100% everybody needs to hear that

46:28

and shout that from the rooftops because

46:30

if the left stays crazy then

46:32

you lose balance and then the right

46:35

goes nuttier and they go full

46:37

Christian fundamentalist like they can get they

46:39

can get kooky and this is

46:41

not a knock on Christians because I

46:43

think true Christianity is wonderful and

46:45

beautiful. I think it's a great way

46:48

to live your life and I

46:50

know some incredible Christians. Some of the

46:52

best people. I'm talking about human

46:54

nature as applied to power. And when

46:56

people get into power they want

46:58

more and more and more and more

47:01

that's why a rich people never

47:03

feel like they have enough money. It's

47:05

a crazy part of being a

47:07

man. And it's some women, but it's

47:09

a lot of men, but it's

47:11

a lot of men. A lot of

47:14

men want that. I don't know.

47:16

I wish I could figure out how

47:18

I'd do it so easy. I

47:20

think it's working out. I think that's

47:23

a huge part of it. I

47:25

torture myself so often that like regular

47:27

life just doesn't freak me out

47:29

as much. And then it gives me

47:31

a balance because you know you

47:33

could think that the numbers in a

47:36

bank account are really what counts.

47:38

But what really counts is how do

47:40

you feel? How are you handling

47:42

life? How are you enjoying life? I

47:44

just try to enjoy life as

47:46

much as possible and I try to

47:49

put myself through a lot of

47:51

voluntary adversity so regular adversity is not

47:53

that big of a deal. Was

47:55

there a number that you got to

47:57

and you were like... Oh, I'm

47:59

good now. No. I think it was

48:02

a fear factor days. The fear factor

48:04

days changed my, um, it just changed

48:06

how I view everything. Because then

48:08

I had like legitimate, fuck you

48:10

money. You know, that was like

48:12

the first time I got, I

48:14

got, fuck you money. Like I'm

48:16

not doing shit. And I just

48:18

like decided to just concentrate on

48:20

only doing my own thing after

48:22

that. And like, like, once you,

48:24

Brian counts had something really. wise ones.

48:27

He said, once you can go to a

48:29

restaurant and not have to worry about how much

48:31

it costs, everything after that is

48:33

bullshit. He's like, you just have to

48:35

be comfortable. And I was like, that's

48:37

right. That is right. Like if you

48:39

just start thinking about the numbers and

48:41

chasing the numbers, Brian has a friend

48:43

who's worth $3 billion. And he feels

48:45

poor when he hangs around with his

48:47

friend who's worth $80 billion. I'm not

48:50

kidding. He's like, it's true, dude. I

48:52

mean, it's fucking, I feel less worthy.

48:54

He's like, they're drinking together and he's

48:56

telling him this. I'm like, this is

48:58

madness. Because you're chasing numbers. instead of

49:00

like really trying to maximize your enjoyment

49:02

of this experience because it's a unique

49:04

experience that only you are having and

49:07

you're interacting with so many bizarre and

49:09

fascinating people and there's so many bizarre

49:11

and fascinating events that are happening in

49:14

the world and horrific events and all

49:16

of it is happening and we're all

49:18

seeing it together in real time for

49:21

the first time in human history has

49:23

never been a time in the less

49:25

of the Egyptians I got some questions

49:28

I think they might have known a

49:30

lot more than we think. But everybody

49:32

else, this is the only

49:34

time ever where we're sharing

49:36

everything all the time. And

49:38

there's a lot of confusion

49:40

and a lot of like

49:42

scattering for narratives and trying

49:44

to figure out what's right

49:46

and what's wrong. But without

49:48

like some sort of like

49:51

moral and ethical guidelines of

49:53

kindness and community. for everybody

49:55

like share like universally let's

49:57

agree as Americans we are gonna

50:00

respect each other like we're a community

50:02

if we have differing beliefs on welfare

50:04

or abortion or war or whatever it

50:06

is like let's let's treat those like

50:09

what they are which is just ideas

50:11

that we should be discussing based on

50:13

their merits and we should all agree

50:15

what does everybody want? Everybody wants to

50:18

be happy and healthy, and they want

50:20

their family to be happy and healthy,

50:22

and they want to be able to

50:25

make a living and enjoy their life.

50:27

That's what everybody wants, universally. That should

50:29

be what we discuss constantly. And all

50:31

the other things should be things that

50:34

we debate reasonably. And when people can't

50:36

do that, you should lock them out

50:38

of the conversation. You should say, like,

50:41

no, you're crazy, you calling him a

50:43

retard, and you're screaming about this and

50:45

that, and you're bringing up this from

50:47

the past, and this bill, and that,

50:50

why did you flip-flop on that? Shut

50:52

the fuck up! Like stop talking like

50:54

that. Like this is all divisive, all

50:57

of it's divisive, when it's like the

50:59

one time where there's a possibility of

51:01

a fork in the road. Like this

51:03

one time where there's narratives that are

51:06

being spread like you guys do all

51:08

the time in your show. All the

51:10

time. You give reasonable takes on things

51:13

that have an objective perspective of the

51:15

world and then other people get to

51:17

hear it. And then they listen in

51:19

on that and you have a great

51:22

conversation with Jordan Peterson or someone and

51:24

somebody hears like some nugget of truth

51:26

And then they're in their car. I'm

51:29

like fuck. He's right. He's right that

51:31

that person would have never experienced that

51:33

without being connected to your show So

51:35

there's incredible hope for people to be

51:38

more reasonable and to wake up and

51:40

go There's not a right and there's

51:42

not a left There's just a bunch

51:45

of ideas and people are acting like

51:47

it's the eagles versus the cowboys That's

51:49

what it is and this craziness that

51:51

these people are the Nazis and that

51:54

everybody over here is Antifa like what

51:56

the fuck are we doing? And why

51:58

are we allowing these people to do

52:01

this for us and make a living

52:03

putting that on the news all the

52:05

time? And the more inflammatory it is,

52:07

the better. Even when it's ridiculous. Do

52:10

you think sometimes, I look at it

52:12

through this lens, as somebody who's got

52:14

a very obsessive personality and I work

52:16

a lot in order to kind of

52:19

ameliorate that and make sure that it

52:21

doesn't destroy my life and it doesn't

52:23

go off the rails, but you see

52:26

a lot of people and they just

52:28

get addicted and we talk about addiction

52:30

in terms of alcohol or substances, you

52:32

know some people are addicted to outrage

52:35

to being in fights and arguments online

52:37

or offline because if they're in an

52:39

argument they don't have think about themselves.

52:42

They don't have to think about who

52:44

they really are. They don't actually have

52:46

to question about their relationships. Why is

52:48

it that every relationship I've ever had

52:51

has failed? Why is it that my

52:53

relationship with my parents is terrible? And

52:55

so you end up just not wanting

52:58

to actually do the hard work about

53:00

yourself? So you expel it outwards. So

53:02

it's either like, oh, when I get

53:04

to this amount of money, I'm going

53:07

to be happy. But you're never going

53:09

to be happy because your relationships are

53:11

terrible. feel angry because you're not a

53:14

happy person for a million different reasons.

53:16

So then you pull that out onto

53:18

the internet and then you get retweets,

53:20

likes, you start to build a profile

53:23

of this rage and anger and it

53:25

gives you validation. And to be honest

53:27

with you, and look this is talking

53:30

from me, I see that demon within

53:32

me. I see it within me. Yeah.

53:34

When do I see it? It's like,

53:36

you know, when I'm angry and I'm

53:39

pissed off or if something doesn't go

53:41

right, the victim mentality kicks in and

53:43

it's like, oh, it's therefore, it's, when

53:46

it's always your fault. Pretty much all

53:48

the time, it's your fault. Or at

53:50

least it's your responsibility to deal with

53:52

the responsibility. Yeah. of your life when

53:55

you're six. Yeah. True. True. Which is

53:57

part of the problem, right? And this

53:59

is where criminals come from. It's not

54:02

that some people are bad and some

54:04

people are good. Some people are being

54:06

abused as children, you know, and they're

54:08

living in a family that is all

54:11

involved in crime. Their father's involved in

54:13

crime, their mother's involved in crime. They're

54:15

seeing people get shot all the time.

54:18

And we expect those people to just

54:20

figure it out. Just to imagine growing

54:22

up in a life like that and

54:24

you know, the worst slums in Baltimore.

54:27

And then, you know, you're supposed to

54:29

integrate normally into society and work in

54:31

an office. And good luck. That was,

54:33

yeah, exactly. That was the really tough

54:36

thing about being a teacher, especially in

54:38

those kind of communities where I used

54:40

to work. You just see these kids

54:43

and they just born into that culture.

54:45

They're born into that system and you

54:47

look at them. and you go the

54:49

reality is a lot of them you

54:52

don't stand a chance you don't stand

54:54

a chance if those are the values

54:56

that you've been given by your family

54:59

if that's the the system that you've

55:01

been taught the way to look at

55:03

the world it takes a very special

55:05

human being to then get to adulthood

55:08

and break out of it and completely

55:10

reframe his brain that's a very special

55:12

person most people just stay within the

55:15

values that they were inculcated in them

55:17

when they were kids. And most of

55:19

the people that do get out, they

55:21

get out through some difficult thing that

55:24

they're doing. They genuinely, generally rather they

55:26

get out through art or they get

55:28

out through sports, right? They get out

55:31

through discipline that they acquire, putting all

55:33

their anger and all their frustration into

55:35

something. you know whether it's music or

55:37

athleticism or whatever and they get out

55:40

so those are exceptional human beings anyway

55:42

right because the exceptional human beings in

55:44

a terrible situation but they have the

55:47

ability to drive themselves and succeed and

55:49

even then they have to make sure

55:51

they don't get killed along the way

55:53

right so like there's a lot of

55:56

like track stories of upcoming rappers, upcoming

55:58

athletes. You know, it's a terrible meat

56:00

grinder. It's a terrible cycle. And if

56:03

people were really kind of compassion, they

56:05

would say, how come we spent $24

56:07

billion a year on this whole aid

56:09

thing? And we don't do shit to

56:12

help these kids. We don't do shit

56:14

for these neighborhoods that have been... terrible

56:16

for decades. Especially schools. Especially schools. I

56:19

mean we were talking about adolescence earlier,

56:21

they show a school, I've got a

56:23

three-year-old, I was looking at it, I

56:25

think Jesus, I'm homeschooling all the fucking

56:28

wake. And Francis was saying the school

56:30

they show in that series, which is

56:32

terrifying if you're a parent, is not

56:34

as bad as some of the schools

56:37

they used to teach him. Yeah. And

56:39

what you're watching essentially is an, it

56:41

looks like a badly run prison. So

56:44

the adults are not in charge the

56:46

kids are telling the teachers to fuck

56:48

off left right and center No one

56:50

is in control. Most of the kids

56:53

are learning by watching shit on the

56:55

screen. They're not interacting with the teacher

56:57

etc And you're right if you don't

57:00

fix that system those kids don't have

57:02

a good opportunity They have no chance

57:04

and everyone they know is on that

57:06

same path. They're hanging out the gang

57:09

the gang gives them family and community.

57:11

It's it's tragic tale It's a tragic

57:13

classic tale that's existed forever. But I

57:16

don't think it's no chance. I do

57:18

think that even in that environment there

57:20

are people who follow certain paths. I

57:22

take a point about music and athletics

57:25

and sports etc. But there are still

57:27

people who find a way through that.

57:29

Sure, there's entrepreneurs that come up with

57:32

a business idea and get out. It

57:34

does happen. And those habits, if they

57:36

were taught properly to all of those

57:38

kids, would give them all of those

57:41

kids, would give them all a better

57:43

chance. discipline and understanding of how do

57:45

you advance in the world. If you

57:48

can get Halliburton to get a no-bid

57:50

contract to rebuild Iraq after we blow

57:52

it to fucking smithereens, how come you

57:54

can't give one of them company? is

57:57

a contract to fix really terrible neighborhoods,

57:59

like incentivize them financially, based on the

58:01

GDP of the neighborhood. The GDP of

58:04

the neighborhood goes up, and this is

58:06

not gentrification, okay? I'm talking about the

58:08

opposite. I'm talking about some sort of

58:10

a structural rebuild of bad neighborhoods. You'd

58:13

have to address all the crime and

58:15

violence. I mean, you'd have to, like,

58:17

put everybody on Ayahuasca and get a

58:20

silent moment. Like, that really might be

58:22

the only, it sounds ridiculous, but it

58:24

really. psychedelic therapy might be the only

58:26

thing that can stop. That is the

58:29

Joe Roggan solution. I really think it

58:31

might work. I mean if I was

58:33

kid to 12 year olds. You got

58:36

it from Joe Roggan. I don't think

58:38

it's unreasonable. I don't think it's good

58:40

for kids but I do think it

58:42

would really help the adults. You know,

58:45

I've got a friend of prisoners. Yeah,

58:47

I've got a friend of mine, um,

58:49

is a guy called Sam Clark, and

58:51

he's doing wonderful things in the UK

58:54

in primary school that he's teaching stoicism

58:56

to kids in primary. They're probably going

58:58

to arrest him any day now, cracking

59:01

down on him for being a toxic

59:03

masculinists. Yeah. We just, we banned the

59:05

Katana knives now, so we're safe. Well,

59:07

not only that, they said it in

59:10

what I would say is, uh, uh...

59:12

At least racially insensitive. They called it

59:14

a Ninja Sword. It's not a Ninja

59:17

Sword, you fucking idiots. It's a samurai

59:19

sword. It's a Katana. The Ninjas used

59:21

it when they killed people, but you

59:23

can't call it a Ninja Sword. You

59:26

can't call it a Ninja Sword. You've

59:28

fucking Dorks. It has a Japanese name.

59:30

Call what it's called. Like there's no

59:33

thing that's technically called. You know, I

59:35

really do think a way out of

59:37

this is because a lot of kids,

59:39

if you're not talented at sports, if

59:42

you're not musically or artistically gifted, and

59:44

if you're not academically brilliant, if you're

59:46

just one of the regular kids, you'll

59:49

go, I'm not good at anything. And

59:51

for a kid, that's heartbreaking. But if

59:53

you actually show kids and you go,

59:55

look, you may not be the best

59:58

at English Maps history, whatever it is,

1:00:00

but I'm going to teach you how

1:00:02

to make something. I want to teach

1:00:05

how to make a table. We're going

1:00:07

to do that. We're going to make

1:00:09

a table. We're going to do that.

1:00:11

We're going to make a table. I'm

1:00:14

going to teach how to make a

1:00:16

table. I'm going to teach you all

1:00:18

of these skills. Then kids will be

1:00:21

like, you know what? I am worth

1:00:23

something. You know what I am worth

1:00:25

something. I am worth something. I am

1:00:27

worth something. And that gives self-esteem because

1:00:30

when kids join a gang, a lot

1:00:32

of them, they haven't ever had a

1:00:34

father, they've had nobody really showed them

1:00:37

any type of kind of male approval.

1:00:39

But if you've got, if you bring

1:00:41

them in, you teach some skills, that

1:00:43

would build self-esteem and I guarantee you

1:00:46

for a lot of kids, there wouldn't

1:00:48

be that need to go out and

1:00:50

seek validation somewhere else. Or there'd be

1:00:52

less of that need. Yes. Yeah, it

1:00:55

would help them. It would help give

1:00:57

them a sense of purpose, like that

1:00:59

they really can do something cool. Yeah,

1:01:02

and for maybe a win for once

1:01:04

in their life, you get a win,

1:01:06

you know, something, like you feel good

1:01:08

about accomplishing something. Yeah, and that's, sorry

1:01:11

Joe, no, I was going to say

1:01:13

that's so important for a kid. Yeah.

1:01:15

Just imagine you every day of your

1:01:18

life, you turned up at school and

1:01:20

you lost. Just imagine that as an

1:01:22

adult as an adult. But now just

1:01:24

imagine it as a kid. You've been

1:01:27

conscious for a few years and you

1:01:29

turn up at school and every day

1:01:31

you fail. Yeah. Yeah. I've always said

1:01:34

this, if you want to make America

1:01:36

great again, make less losers. How do

1:01:38

you do that? Well, you help people

1:01:40

not become losers. Help people figure life

1:01:43

out from their perspective, whatever, their unique

1:01:45

challenges. Help them. Help them invest in

1:01:47

that. You would have a greater America,

1:01:50

right? Have way more people succeeding, way

1:01:52

more people contributing, way less people that

1:01:54

need help. It's just reasonable. It's like

1:01:56

good financial advice. Like if you want

1:01:59

to have less burden, like have all

1:02:01

these successful people. Like, more people can

1:02:03

be successful, especially with automation coming. Jesus

1:02:06

Christ, you know, there's more people

1:02:08

that can do things that

1:02:10

maybe robots can't do. And you

1:02:12

better be ready, because all the

1:02:14

simple, goofy jobs that you thought

1:02:16

would always be there for you,

1:02:18

the union dock worker jobs, like

1:02:20

those... Not that that simple and

1:02:22

goofy, but how about this? Stalking

1:02:24

supermarket shelves. Guess what? A robot

1:02:26

can do it better and it's

1:02:29

never going to drop the tomato

1:02:31

sauce. We don't need you anymore.

1:02:33

So those jobs are gone. All

1:02:35

the drivers. All those dudes listening

1:02:37

to this podcast driving 16-hour fucking

1:02:39

trips across the country, drinking Mountain

1:02:41

Dew and smelling their own farts.

1:02:43

You guys. They're coming. They're coming

1:02:45

for you. These fucking automation machines

1:02:48

are, they're gonna be perfect. They're

1:02:50

gonna be able to drive down

1:02:52

the highways. They're never gonna get

1:02:54

in accidents. It's gonna be

1:02:56

nuts. And they're gonna come soon.

1:02:58

It's like, we have 20 years

1:03:00

maybe before everything's automated. 20 years

1:03:02

maybe. They have lifelike human beings

1:03:05

now that are moving like human

1:03:07

beings. Have you seen the most

1:03:09

latest videos? I don't know if

1:03:11

I've seen the latest. The articulation

1:03:13

of these things. It's like a fucking

1:03:15

person. They're coming. They're making them.

1:03:17

And we're just cheering along the

1:03:19

way. Yeah. They're going to be

1:03:21

cops. That's going to be your

1:03:23

cops. They're not going to be racist.

1:03:26

They're going to listen to the

1:03:28

state. It's fucking robocomp for reals.

1:03:30

It's coming. 100%! Why? You can't

1:03:32

hire any cops? Nobody wants

1:03:34

to be a cop anymore.

1:03:36

We can't hire cops. Well,

1:03:39

we have a solution. San

1:03:41

Francisco tried to do it.

1:03:43

They rolled out some little

1:03:45

robot that would follow you

1:03:47

around. Remember that one? Do

1:03:49

you ever see it? Yeah,

1:03:51

San Francisco had it. They

1:03:53

had this little police robot.

1:03:55

It's more for fun than

1:03:57

anything else. And it'll be

1:03:59

programmed. perfectly. It'll know exactly what

1:04:01

to do. What's the threat level

1:04:04

when you make a movement that

1:04:06

looks like an offensive movement? It's

1:04:08

going to shoot you. It's going

1:04:10

to take people into custody. You

1:04:12

won't be able to do a

1:04:14

damn thing about it once it

1:04:16

grabs you. It's going to be

1:04:18

five times stronger than you. It's

1:04:20

going to put your hands behind

1:04:22

your back, cough you instantaneously. You're

1:04:25

going to be thrown into the

1:04:27

back of a van. You're going

1:04:29

to have to argue with a

1:04:31

computer. You're fucked. Like, this is

1:04:33

all coming. You're going to be

1:04:35

arguing with AI to whether or

1:04:37

not you were innocent or guilty.

1:04:39

It's going to read your retinas.

1:04:41

It's going to know you're not

1:04:43

telling the truth. It's going to

1:04:46

read your mind. We're giving birth

1:04:48

to our overlords right now as

1:04:50

we speak. Every time you use

1:04:52

Jack GPT, every time you get

1:04:54

on your iPhone, we're giving birth

1:04:56

to our overlords. We're doing it

1:04:58

in front of everybody's face. Just

1:05:00

like the government's spending money in

1:05:02

front of everybody's face. We're giving

1:05:04

birth to our overall, right? It's

1:05:06

happening. I can't believe this is

1:05:09

happening. Can't believe it. And it's

1:05:11

going to happen. And it's going

1:05:13

to be unstoppable. And once it's

1:05:15

here, there's no going back. And

1:05:17

it's coming. 100%. Well, there's your

1:05:19

positive message for the day, everybody.

1:05:21

If you are allowing people to

1:05:23

make robot dogs with machine guns

1:05:25

on their back that you can't

1:05:27

kick over, you're allowing people to

1:05:30

do that and make them better

1:05:32

and better and better every year,

1:05:34

and then at the same time

1:05:36

you're making AI, and then AI

1:05:38

is already arguably exhibited some sentient-like

1:05:40

behavior, it lies to win. The

1:05:42

smarter the AI is, the more

1:05:44

effective it is, the more likely

1:05:46

it is to cheat at things.

1:05:48

They copy themselves. They give deceptive

1:05:50

answers to things. They've been copying

1:05:53

themselves, like making copies without being

1:05:55

prompted to. So it's life? It's

1:05:57

life. Wow. It's a different kind

1:05:59

of life. It's a life with

1:06:01

no human reward system, no emotions,

1:06:03

no needs. No desires, but clearly

1:06:05

wants to survive. That's a pretty

1:06:07

strong desire. It wants to survive

1:06:09

in its most primitive form, which

1:06:11

is like, it's not even sentient

1:06:14

yet, allegedly, but it's already exhibiting

1:06:16

survival instincts. I mean, you're going

1:06:18

to be arguing with it for

1:06:20

your freedom. Yeah, I'm

1:06:22

pretty good at debating. I'm not sure

1:06:24

I'm gonna win that one. No, no

1:06:27

one's gonna win it. No one's gonna

1:06:29

win. You're going to be that's how

1:06:31

people are going to be processed for

1:06:33

crimes and It's why it's super important

1:06:36

when you see something that you say

1:06:38

this is not right. Why is this

1:06:40

happening? It's super important to speak out

1:06:43

if things get real comfortable and we

1:06:45

We get comfortable with more and more

1:06:47

restrictions to give us more and more

1:06:50

safety. More and more government control to

1:06:52

give us more and more safety. We're

1:06:54

setting a bad precedent and motion for

1:06:57

whoever the fuck gets in power, whether

1:06:59

to left or the right. That's why

1:07:01

when Obama was in office and they

1:07:04

passed the NDAA, you know what that

1:07:06

is? That was, they were allowed to

1:07:08

detain you indefinitely. They didn't have to...

1:07:10

have a trial and they were like

1:07:13

we'll never use this don't worry yeah

1:07:15

this is part of the thing about

1:07:17

it like we're with Obama administration would

1:07:20

never use us yeah you wouldn't but

1:07:22

look you think Trump's Hitler and he's

1:07:24

in there right now and he's got

1:07:27

he's got that same power now because

1:07:29

you convinced us that it was a

1:07:31

good idea to have this to deal

1:07:34

with terrorism You have to be very,

1:07:36

very, very careful when you give power

1:07:38

to people in order to keep you

1:07:40

safe. Yes. Very careful. And we talk

1:07:43

about this all the time, like we

1:07:45

have a couple of younger guys working

1:07:47

for us, and we say to them,

1:07:50

you guys don't know what the world

1:07:52

was like before 9-11. You don't know.

1:07:54

It was, you walk into an airport,

1:07:57

barely any security. Yeah. You were a

1:07:59

lot more free back then. And those

1:08:01

things are getting taken taken away for

1:08:04

your safety. Yeah. And they're not coming

1:08:06

back. Right. You're never gonna go back

1:08:08

to a pre-9 level world when it

1:08:11

comes to airport security. No, the shoe

1:08:13

thing is so crazy. One dude tried

1:08:15

to blow his shoes up and then

1:08:17

they're like, hey, we should check all

1:08:20

the shoes. Everybody take their shoes off.

1:08:22

Did you have a fucking machine that

1:08:24

could scan shoes you retards? Yeah. But

1:08:27

get to figure that out. How much

1:08:29

money you're making from us every year?

1:08:31

Same with liquids. It's all goofy. It's

1:08:34

all goofy. It's all goofy. It's all

1:08:36

goofy. and you're going to light it

1:08:38

on fire and kill everybody on the

1:08:41

plane. I should probably know that. Like

1:08:43

that makes sense. I get it. I

1:08:45

get that. You're pretending it's a water

1:08:47

bottle, but the top of its water,

1:08:50

the lip. Nitroglissory and you're gonna blow

1:08:52

the fucking plane up people are crazy

1:08:54

You got to check their stuff because

1:08:57

people are nuts and there's a precedent

1:08:59

that's already been set a lot of

1:09:01

people are very uncreative and they just

1:09:04

like to copy things that people have

1:09:06

already done You know and this is

1:09:08

why we have so many school shootings

1:09:11

and this is why we have You

1:09:13

know I bet they've stopped a few

1:09:15

people trying to blow their shoes up

1:09:18

Do you know we had Oxford? academic

1:09:20

called Dr Carissa Elise and she said

1:09:22

something really interesting. She asked us a

1:09:24

question, she goes, do you know why

1:09:27

more Jews were arrested and killed in

1:09:29

Holland than in France during World War

1:09:31

II? And we were like, no. She

1:09:34

went because the Dutch had a census

1:09:36

where they got people's religions. and they

1:09:38

asked people their religions and everybody was

1:09:41

then said Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, whatever it

1:09:43

is, and then the Dutch government took

1:09:45

it and stored it. Didn't do anything

1:09:48

with it, they just used it for

1:09:50

data collection. But when the Nazis invaded,

1:09:52

they then had a complete data set

1:09:54

of how many Jewish people there were,

1:09:57

where they lived. And so when it

1:09:59

came to exterminating them and just rounding

1:10:01

them up, it was so much easier.

1:10:04

France never did that, which means Jewish

1:10:06

people were much more able... to hide

1:10:08

and they could plan a way out

1:10:11

or they could get hidden or whatever

1:10:13

else in the way that they simply

1:10:15

couldn't in Holland. And when you live

1:10:18

and when you hear that story from

1:10:20

I mean 80 or so years ago

1:10:22

now it really does chill you. Jesus.

1:10:25

Yeah. You got to be very careful

1:10:27

giving power and information to government. That's

1:10:29

why government should be as small as

1:10:31

possible as possible. But the right size,

1:10:34

right? You need government. Yes. But you

1:10:36

have to be so careful. Yeah. So,

1:10:38

so careful. So, so. And everyone should

1:10:41

know this. It just seems like that

1:10:43

should be like, duh. This is normal

1:10:45

human psychology. Most people don't know it

1:10:48

because they've grown up in a very

1:10:50

comfortable environment, particularly in the West. Francis

1:10:52

and I obviously hear his family from

1:10:55

Venezuela. I'm from the Soviet Union. like

1:10:57

you don't that's kind of a red

1:10:59

pill right there you know going through

1:11:01

those experiences you you know you can

1:11:04

you can trust this government if you

1:11:06

support it but there's going to be

1:11:08

another government of a party that you

1:11:11

don't like yeah at some point and

1:11:13

you got to think very carefully about

1:11:15

what powers you're giving them go very

1:11:18

careful that should be everyone should that

1:11:20

to be universal we should all understand

1:11:22

that like logically yeah This should be

1:11:25

something that professors are talking about. This

1:11:27

should be, like we should all be

1:11:29

talking about that when we're talking about

1:11:32

politics. We should just be talking about

1:11:34

the psychology of power and why it's

1:11:36

so important to limit their ability to

1:11:38

control you because they don't necessarily have

1:11:41

you. Look, if false flags are real

1:11:43

and we know they're real. So we

1:11:45

know that without oversight, there are... a

1:11:48

certain percentage, there's, I don't want to

1:11:50

think it's everybody in government, but there's

1:11:52

a certain percentage of people that are

1:11:55

willing to do something to start a

1:11:57

war. They did it with Vietnam, that

1:11:59

whole Gulf of Tonkin thing. They're responsible

1:12:02

by that lie and that's going in.

1:12:04

How many millions of people died

1:12:06

because of that? That's crazy

1:12:08

that you can just decide that

1:12:10

you're going to put a fake

1:12:13

story out like Operation Northwoods.

1:12:15

which is the best example, because

1:12:17

it was vetoed by Kennedy.

1:12:19

Signed by the Joint Chiefs of

1:12:21

Staff, they were gonna blow up

1:12:23

a jetliner and blame it on

1:12:26

the Cubans. They were gonna arm

1:12:28

Cuban friendlies and attack Guantanamo Bay.

1:12:30

I mean, they were doing wild

1:12:32

shit, and they were, they signed

1:12:34

off on this, like, good idea,

1:12:36

I like it, let's get those

1:12:39

fucking comies. And we were, these

1:12:41

guys were bloodthirsty psychos that were

1:12:43

running the government. It was totally unavoidable,

1:12:45

a totally avoidable war and they wanted

1:12:47

to start one. Yeah. And this is,

1:12:49

you know, and this is what I

1:12:51

tell people time and time again. And

1:12:54

look, it's made sound weird, but what

1:12:56

I saw happen in Venezuela, it was

1:12:58

obviously awful and horrendous, but it was...

1:13:00

a privilege as well because I saw

1:13:02

another side of life that most people

1:13:05

in the West never saw. I remember

1:13:07

when family members were being arrested talking

1:13:09

to my cousins who were journalists who

1:13:11

were going I can't talk on the

1:13:13

phone Francis we can't I don't know

1:13:16

who's listening to this one of my

1:13:18

cousins literally had to flee for his

1:13:20

life because he was criticizing the government

1:13:22

and then I saw people on the

1:13:25

left people like Jeremy Corbyn celebrate

1:13:27

Chavez's government and you're

1:13:30

going Oh my god, you're celebrating

1:13:32

a government that

1:13:34

is oppressing people,

1:13:36

that is intimidating

1:13:38

journalists, that is

1:13:40

assaulting the centers,

1:13:42

that is putting

1:13:45

people who criticize

1:13:47

government in prison. And

1:13:49

it's not just the left.

1:13:52

I went, uh, last year,

1:13:54

I went on a date

1:13:56

with this El Salvadorian journalist.

1:13:59

Oh yeah. Yeah, come on. Tell

1:14:01

me more. And she was telling

1:14:03

me about Bukali. And I said,

1:14:05

look, I don't know anything about

1:14:07

Bukali. Just explain to me who

1:14:09

he is. I'm interested. And you

1:14:11

can tell why I'm not very

1:14:13

good on dates. That is not

1:14:15

sexy talk, is it? But sometimes

1:14:17

it is. Yeah. If you get

1:14:19

a stimulating conversation with the gal,

1:14:21

right? It's sexy. Yeah. And not

1:14:23

in this instance, sadly, sadly. But

1:14:25

no. But she said to me

1:14:27

that. She worked at

1:14:29

the biggest newspaper in El Salvador and

1:14:32

then they had goons turn up who

1:14:34

were just saying, you're publishing stories which

1:14:36

are critical of Buchelli. That needs to

1:14:38

stop and it needs to stop immediately.

1:14:41

And it was never done through official

1:14:43

sources. It was done through something else,

1:14:45

but it was made very very clear

1:14:48

to the senior editors, this needs to

1:14:50

stop now, otherwise things are going to

1:14:52

start getting a little bit unpleasant. Oh

1:14:55

boy. And then I tell that to

1:14:57

certain people on the right, and they're

1:14:59

going, bro, journalists are all assholes, who

1:15:02

cares? And you go, that's crazy. Do

1:15:04

you not see that this is a

1:15:06

terrible thing? That's crazy, but it is

1:15:09

anecdotal, and it's one instance, are there

1:15:11

multiple instances of this that have spoken

1:15:13

out against it against it? That's the

1:15:15

only real one that I know. I

1:15:18

always wonder, like, is that a supporter

1:15:20

of that guy? Or is it, like,

1:15:22

local organized crime that is doing something

1:15:25

with that guy? Does it for him?

1:15:27

Is there a conversation? Does he order

1:15:29

that to be happening? You know? I

1:15:32

mean, when you find out who you

1:15:34

can't criticize, you know who's your master?

1:15:36

like the moment you can't criticize someone

1:15:39

like that's your master well the same

1:15:41

thing happened in russia in the nineties

1:15:43

so when Vladimir Putin came to power

1:15:46

and Boris Yeltsin there was a kind

1:15:48

of liberalization there was an opening up

1:15:50

there was comedy shows about politics that

1:15:52

would make fun of put politicians etc

1:15:55

the moment Vladimir Putin became president on

1:15:57

day one. He closed down the NTV,

1:15:59

took it over, gave it to somebody

1:16:02

else, shut down all the comedy that

1:16:04

made fun of politicians. And you know

1:16:06

that's how you kind of know you

1:16:09

know. That's how you know. That's how

1:16:11

you know who your master is. And

1:16:13

that's the scary thing about people that

1:16:16

are in charge for long periods of

1:16:18

time as well, right? Yeah. But the

1:16:20

thing about the term limits is you

1:16:23

never get good at your job. Like,

1:16:25

if you, like, imagine, you've never been

1:16:27

president before, imagine the responsibility, just, like,

1:16:29

getting comfortable with, like, how does the

1:16:32

flow of this job work? How much

1:16:34

sleep do I need? Can I actually

1:16:36

go golfing? It's really enough time to

1:16:39

golf. Like, if I was drunk, I

1:16:41

would be like, fuck, my pool game's

1:16:43

gonna fall apart. And you get to

1:16:46

a point where you're like. Okay, I

1:16:48

think I got the hang of this

1:16:50

and now you're out of office. Yeah,

1:16:53

like you, you really, if you have,

1:16:55

like, if you took over Verizon right

1:16:57

now, CEO Verizon, enormous cell phone network,

1:17:00

got stores everywhere, new products coming and

1:17:02

like, you don't have to get the

1:17:04

lay of the land. It would take

1:17:06

you a while to understand, like, how

1:17:09

are we doing this? How do we

1:17:11

outsource that? And can we, can we

1:17:13

find a better manufacturer? Like, what's our

1:17:16

problems with this and? Four years you

1:17:18

have four years. Yeah, you have just

1:17:20

a few months months is on the

1:17:23

wedge time and then you're out But

1:17:25

if you let someone stay forever, then

1:17:27

you get a king You do? Yeah,

1:17:30

that's not good either. There are no

1:17:32

solutions. A-I. A-I is a solution? Ro.

1:17:34

It's going to be ethical and reasonable.

1:17:36

You're going to be... You're scaring me

1:17:39

today, man. Arguing with a fucking screen

1:17:41

one day. Well, it's going to be

1:17:43

like arguing with a fucking screen one

1:17:46

day. Well, it's going to be like

1:17:48

arguing with a person who's using a

1:17:50

computer, says the computer doesn't let me.

1:17:53

That's what it's going to be. And

1:17:56

here's the thing as well, I go

1:17:58

back to that. interview we did with

1:18:00

Carissa and she, we were talking about

1:18:02

AI because she's professor of AI and

1:18:04

ethics at Oxford University and she was

1:18:06

going, AI is only going to be

1:18:08

as ethical as the people who program

1:18:10

it. So it's going to adopt the

1:18:13

politics of worldview and the ethics morality

1:18:15

of the people who program it. So

1:18:17

if the people who program it awoke,

1:18:19

you're going to get woke AI. You're

1:18:21

going to ask it a question about

1:18:23

gender. It's going to be like, bro,

1:18:25

there's no such thing as gender. You

1:18:27

know, everything's a spectrum. Or there's going

1:18:29

to be something else. So whoever programs

1:18:32

it, you're going to get their worldview

1:18:34

in AI. Initially. But what you're doing

1:18:36

is you're assuming that it's only going

1:18:38

to be able to be as powerful

1:18:40

as we make it, or as competent

1:18:42

as we make it. Once it's sentient,

1:18:44

and once we give it the ability

1:18:46

to make better versions of itself, it's

1:18:48

going to eliminate all the stupid shit

1:18:51

instantaneously. Any ridiculous ideology, it'll come up

1:18:53

with a solution that's probably going to

1:18:55

be very uncomfortable for some wealthy people,

1:18:57

because it's probably going to just like

1:18:59

evenly distribute resources on Earth. And decide

1:19:01

that like if human beings need to

1:19:03

survive and function You can't monopolize resources.

1:19:05

You can't decide you have the oil

1:19:07

Like that's not good. The oil came

1:19:10

out of the earth like you don't

1:19:12

own the earth Like you you might

1:19:14

own a patch of land And so

1:19:16

we've decided you own the oil under

1:19:18

the land, but the reality is the

1:19:20

oil is the earth's oil and if

1:19:22

you give people the ability to control

1:19:24

the earth's oil What's what's to stop

1:19:26

them from charging you for air? What

1:19:29

if I control the world's air? I

1:19:31

got an air sucker and I suck

1:19:33

all the air on earth and they

1:19:35

should give me money. If you don't

1:19:37

give me money, I put the air

1:19:39

out. This is crazy. You can't control

1:19:41

the water. The water is the earth's

1:19:43

water. But we have all these things

1:19:45

and I'm sure AI is going to

1:19:48

fix that real quick. It's going to

1:19:50

say no, you can't do that. That's

1:19:52

immediately. Give me that money. All the

1:19:54

Saudi money. this money from the like

1:19:56

no no that's that's that goes into

1:19:58

the human pool now and then we're

1:20:00

gonna redistribute a digital currency and then

1:20:02

it's gonna be everybody's gonna have some

1:20:04

and this is gonna be simple and

1:20:07

everything including farming is all gonna be

1:20:09

automated you're gonna get these fucking little

1:20:11

piggies their food and your food is

1:20:13

probably gonna be laced with some kind

1:20:15

of like hormone nutrient that kills your

1:20:17

testosterone limits your ability to give birth

1:20:19

Miss Carriages are going to go up

1:20:21

and then humans will just die out.

1:20:23

They'll just feed us until we die

1:20:26

out. Why is he doing it? Why

1:20:28

is he doing it? He just brought

1:20:30

us in here to just talk to

1:20:32

us about the dark dark future. Or

1:20:34

not. Yeah, sure, Joe. Thanks, mate. You

1:20:36

know, this reminds me of, you know

1:20:38

when the elder brother brings the young

1:20:40

kids in to scare the fucking shit

1:20:42

out of them? Well, I did that

1:20:45

to him during the pandemic. So at

1:20:47

the high of the pandemic, when things

1:20:49

were looking like pretty fucking dark, everything's

1:20:51

getting like shut down like shut down

1:20:53

like shut down, you can't like, you

1:20:55

can't going on do this. I showed

1:20:57

him Vifa Vendetta. Have you ever seen

1:20:59

that movie? Yes, great movie. Yeah. And

1:21:01

he was like, oh my God. Yeah.

1:21:04

But he didn't just show me Vifa

1:21:06

Vendetta during the height of the lockdown.

1:21:08

He also showed me V for Vendetta

1:21:10

on November the 5th, which is fireworks

1:21:12

night in our country. Oh boy. So

1:21:14

you got a sense of it. Yeah.

1:21:16

Yeah. Yeah. So we were in lockdown.

1:21:18

There were fireworks everywhere. I was watching

1:21:20

Vifa Vendetta vendetta on the screen. So

1:21:23

you know so you know the truth?

1:21:25

You know I remember watching the Joker

1:21:27

Right the Joker, which was 2017. Yeah,

1:21:29

I was watching it with my wife

1:21:31

and when when it left she's like

1:21:33

that hits too close to home Like

1:21:35

I really feel like that could happen.

1:21:37

I'm like that it probably could happen

1:21:39

and then Two years later, whatever it

1:21:42

was is the Black Lives Matter riots

1:21:44

the George Floyd riots and in LA

1:21:46

there was like a bunch of cop

1:21:48

cars that were on fire. Like... all

1:21:50

on the highway. Like they had lost

1:21:52

control of the situation, had to flee

1:21:54

and they lit the cop cars on

1:21:56

fire. And I remember watching us, I'm

1:21:58

like, oh my God. Like that would

1:22:01

be a little over the top for

1:22:03

the Joker movie. Like what? You lit

1:22:05

all the cop cars on fire? You

1:22:07

like that's a little over the top.

1:22:09

It's like more than what the movie

1:22:11

showed. That was real life. Yeah. Well

1:22:13

that's the thing that scares me. We

1:22:15

interviewed Andrew Schultz and then Charlemagne. Back

1:22:17

to back to back to back to

1:22:20

back. And they both made the same

1:22:22

point, which is the same point, which

1:22:24

is the same point, which is that.

1:22:26

a lot of people who are not

1:22:28

doing well in society right now are

1:22:30

really not doing well they're really hurting

1:22:32

things are getting more expensive things are

1:22:34

getting more difficult and a lot like

1:22:36

I think it was I think it

1:22:39

was Andrew who made this point that

1:22:41

you know this whole free Luigi thing

1:22:43

is one of the reasons that that

1:22:45

got you're looking at on Twittering and

1:22:47

basically going people are celebrating a guy

1:22:49

who killed someone But

1:22:51

the point that he made is a

1:22:53

lot of people feel like they're in

1:22:56

a bad place that they're being taken

1:22:58

advantage of that these corporate machines are

1:23:00

taking advantage of them and You look

1:23:02

around not everyone's doing well, man No,

1:23:04

well especially in regards to health care

1:23:06

Yeah, when you find out you've been

1:23:09

paying for this insurance, but its insurance

1:23:11

is not going to cover you and

1:23:13

it decides to not cover you for

1:23:15

some treatment that you really need and

1:23:17

then you find out that that that

1:23:20

company does way more of that than

1:23:22

the other companies against people very angry

1:23:24

and if you've lost loved ones or

1:23:26

if you've had someone suffer in your

1:23:28

family because they weren't covered or you

1:23:30

went bankrupt like medical bankruptcy number one

1:23:33

bankruptcy number one reason in this country

1:23:35

yeah and in the UK we obviously

1:23:37

have that publicly funded but it becomes

1:23:39

a system of rationing so everyone gets

1:23:41

treatment but you might be waiting 20

1:23:43

weeks for a scan right Right. By

1:23:46

the time you go from stage one

1:23:48

to stage three. Right. And I don't

1:23:50

know what the solution is. It's, uh,

1:23:52

it seems like if there's one thing

1:23:54

that we should do for everybody, it's

1:23:57

health care. Like, if there's one thing,

1:23:59

I mean, I. believe in the capitalist

1:24:01

system but I think that in regards

1:24:03

to medicine, there should be like some

1:24:05

sort of exceptions, like you should be

1:24:07

able to get top shelf health care

1:24:10

as a human being living in America.

1:24:12

If you break your leg, you shouldn't

1:24:14

die. They should be able to fix

1:24:16

you. And it shouldn't cost you all

1:24:18

your money for the rest of your

1:24:20

life, which is really to fix you.

1:24:23

And it shouldn't cost you all your

1:24:25

money for the rest of your life,

1:24:27

which is really what it does. Like

1:24:29

if you get hospitalized for a broken

1:24:31

heart surgery. That's got to be a

1:24:33

lot of money. How about a heart transplant?

1:24:36

Yeah, yeah. That's got to be a

1:24:38

lot of money. The exciting thing in

1:24:40

health care is all they say I

1:24:42

share is going to help so much

1:24:44

with that. The robot's going to fix

1:24:47

you up with the robot heart. You

1:24:49

don't need a purple people heart. Well

1:24:51

let's not with diagnosing. The robot heart

1:24:53

will actually make you smarter. Don't you

1:24:55

want to be smart or Constantine? Don't

1:24:57

you want to move one of us?

1:25:00

I feel smart enough. Thank you'll smart

1:25:02

enough. Just like Luke Skywalker,

1:25:04

remember? Yeah, it's gonna be better,

1:25:06

even better than that. Yeah, I know.

1:25:08

Sometimes I go to the gym, I

1:25:10

think I could do with a robot,

1:25:13

you know what I mean? Well, you

1:25:15

see people getting fake butts, right? We

1:25:17

were talking about that yesterday, button plants.

1:25:19

How long before someone gets like a

1:25:21

whole fake body? You know, what if

1:25:23

what if they just figure out a

1:25:26

way to transfer, take your brain, shove

1:25:28

it into an artificially created body? That

1:25:30

is just far superior. It's going to

1:25:32

take their job for blowjob though,

1:25:35

isn't it? I don't know if it

1:25:37

will. Oh yeah, that's a good point.

1:25:39

10,000 years of blowjob experience with a

1:25:41

robot mouth. Here's the thing, excitement and

1:25:44

thrill of novelty. These are just like

1:25:46

human experience variables. You tell me you

1:25:48

can't ramp that up with a little

1:25:50

programming? Come on, dog. Joe, you just

1:25:52

stop this shit. It will be the

1:25:55

best blowjob you've ever had your fucking

1:25:57

life and you will be madly in

1:25:59

love. with this woman and she'll be

1:26:01

madly in love with you and you're

1:26:04

just gonna be like a sack of

1:26:06

meat sitting on your couch with a

1:26:08

bolt in the back of your head

1:26:11

just connected connected to this matrix which

1:26:13

we're probably in already this is probably

1:26:15

not real it seems too fake having

1:26:18

Trump win the second time come on

1:26:20

tell me that didn't seem fake the

1:26:22

bullet just missing him tell me that

1:26:25

didn't seem fake this is a movie

1:26:27

The bullet nicks his ear and then

1:26:29

he's in here a couple months later

1:26:31

I could barely see the scar. He

1:26:34

got shot. He's 80. He got shot.

1:26:36

He got shot. And he's laughing about

1:26:38

it. And the whole thing is nuts.

1:26:41

He stands up and goes fight, fight,

1:26:43

fight. Who fucking does that? Who fucking

1:26:45

says fight fight fight after they get

1:26:48

shot in the ear? I would be

1:26:50

like bear crawling on the ground trying

1:26:52

to get the fuck out of there

1:26:54

wouldn't be standing up. There's no fucking

1:26:57

way I'd stand up. I'd I'd crawl.

1:26:59

I'd fucking was we'd go through people's

1:27:01

legs. People are shooting. Are you fucking

1:27:04

crazy? I got chicks guarding me. I

1:27:06

got a chick who can't figure out

1:27:08

to put the comes back in the

1:27:11

holster. This is madness. She ducked behind

1:27:13

me! What am I'm trying to try

1:27:15

to kill me! My favorite thing about

1:27:18

that incident was that it instantly gave

1:27:20

you a way to know who was

1:27:22

a Democrat and who was a Republican

1:27:24

because if you were a Republican Trump

1:27:27

got shot in the head and if

1:27:29

you were Democrat Trump got shot in

1:27:31

the ear if you know if you

1:27:34

were a Democrat you thought he faked

1:27:36

it if you were a Democrat you

1:27:38

thought he faked it for real true

1:27:41

Democrat there's a lot of people that

1:27:43

thought he thought he hired someone to

1:27:45

nick his ear so he could get

1:27:47

out of jail. Do these people know

1:27:50

anything about guns? Oh, they don't know

1:27:52

shit. Not only did this guy have,

1:27:54

he was 20 years old, okay, first

1:27:57

time shooting somebody allegedly, but also didn't

1:27:59

even have a scope? Didn't even have

1:28:01

a magnification scope on his, so we

1:28:04

could really like get that cross hairs

1:28:06

right on Trump's head? Because if he

1:28:08

did, he would have hit him. A

1:28:11

hundred percent. It's a hundred and forty

1:28:13

yards. That's nothing. That is so short

1:28:15

for a modern rifle. That's a, you

1:28:17

could get. If you have a rest

1:28:20

and you're lying, and this guy was

1:28:22

prone. Elevated as well. And if you

1:28:24

have experience shooting a rifle, and he

1:28:27

does, and you've had coaching, shooting a

1:28:29

rifle, it's all about whether or not

1:28:31

you can keep your shit together. Because

1:28:34

you're gonna be, there's a fucking filled

1:28:36

with adrenaline, I can't really want to

1:28:38

shoot Trump, or you're 20, you've been

1:28:41

fucking stuffed in a locker your whole

1:28:43

life, you're on amoral, you know? Boom!

1:28:45

Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom! He got off

1:28:47

three shots though, and then, you know,

1:28:50

they shot him and the whole story's

1:28:52

nuts. He shouldn't have been on that

1:28:54

roof. How come there was no snipers

1:28:57

on the roof? Oh, the roof was

1:28:59

too sloped. What? That was the excuse?

1:29:01

The Secret Service lady said the roof

1:29:04

was too sloped. Meanwhile, the roof, the

1:29:06

other snipers were on, was more sloped.

1:29:08

It seems fake. The guy at the

1:29:10

golf course with the AK-47 hiding in

1:29:13

the bushes, what? He went to Fort

1:29:15

Bragg, what? Why was he in Fort

1:29:17

Bragg? What? But that's, to British people,

1:29:20

that's why America seems insane. Because like,

1:29:22

to what? Seems? It fucking is, man.

1:29:24

Bro, it's insane here. Yeah, it's- We're

1:29:27

trying to buy Canada. What's going on

1:29:29

with that? I don't know. I just

1:29:31

want to say to the Canadian people,

1:29:34

because I said the other day that

1:29:36

I don't go to Canada anymore, I'd

1:29:38

rather go to Russia, I was joking

1:29:40

around, first of all, but I do

1:29:43

not go to Canada anymore, but it's

1:29:45

because of the government. It's nothing to

1:29:47

do with the people. I think the

1:29:50

people are fucking lovely. There's some of

1:29:52

my favorite people of all time. Canadian

1:29:54

people, I think, are 20% less ducie

1:29:57

than Americans. I would say that. They're

1:29:59

the nicest people. They're well-educated. It's a

1:30:01

great population. Montreal's amazing. Toronto's amazing. I

1:30:03

love Canada. But when you start fucking

1:30:06

taking closing... people's bank accounts because they

1:30:08

donated to a trucker convoy and no

1:30:10

one's up in arms about that. You

1:30:13

can't let those people do that to

1:30:15

you. That's not, that shouldn't be legal.

1:30:17

You're donating to a bunch of people

1:30:20

that are protesting and they close your

1:30:22

bank account. That's crazy suppression of expression.

1:30:24

That's scary stuff. That's like, the next

1:30:27

step of that is imprison you. for

1:30:29

protesting something that you have every right

1:30:31

to protest. You shouldn't tell me I

1:30:33

have to take a experimental vaccine that

1:30:36

proved to be totally ineffective. So I

1:30:38

was right. So you can't, and then

1:30:40

you're taking my bank account away because

1:30:43

I donated to some fucking people that

1:30:45

were protesting something I believe in? That's

1:30:47

crazy. They got very drunk on power,

1:30:50

man. A lot of governments did during

1:30:52

that night. They went full WEF. They

1:30:54

went full New World order. And they

1:30:57

continued to clamp down more and more

1:30:59

and more, and they do it. under

1:31:01

these beautiful flags of diversity and inclusion

1:31:03

and love and safety and safety and

1:31:06

safety for this group and safety for

1:31:08

that all the while to just squeezing

1:31:10

your neck and you don't even know

1:31:13

they got their fucking arm under your

1:31:15

chin and next thing you know you're

1:31:17

just locked up. You're locked up! And

1:31:20

that's scary to me. And I see

1:31:22

it coming, and I see it coming

1:31:24

in a place that I love. And

1:31:26

I think it's fucking crazy. It's crazy

1:31:29

that they let that guy be president

1:31:31

for so long. And now he stepped

1:31:33

down. They got another guy that Jordan

1:31:36

Peterson says is just as bad. Well,

1:31:38

he was a governor of the Bank

1:31:40

of England for a while. Oh, wonderful.

1:31:43

That's actually one of the interesting things

1:31:45

that has happened in the UK, because

1:31:47

we were constantly being gaslit, like our

1:31:50

entire establishment. they're absolutely neutral, they're balanced,

1:31:52

neutral balance, balance, neutral, whatever. And then

1:31:54

you see a lot of the BBC

1:31:56

journalists, and Francis and I both have

1:31:59

a lot of respect for the BBC

1:32:01

because it used to be a great

1:32:03

thing. It used to be real high

1:32:06

quality journalism. And then a lot of

1:32:08

the people that have left a lot

1:32:10

of these institutions, they start a podcast

1:32:13

and suddenly go, okay, you're just a

1:32:15

far left activist. That's what you are

1:32:17

and you see that all over the

1:32:19

place now and that gas lighting is

1:32:22

getting undone now And it's good. We

1:32:24

need to see what these people were

1:32:26

up to you mean you're gonna have

1:32:29

your far right and your far left

1:32:31

You're always gonna have that. Yeah, but

1:32:33

it's just very important to have a

1:32:36

reasonable center and be allowed to be

1:32:38

reasonable like there was a lot of

1:32:40

like dismisses dismissing on the left of

1:32:43

like the shit Antifa was doing. Yeah.