0:01

I actually you know I normally

0:03

don't bring notes, but I was good

0:05

to see you my friend Wow that was

0:08

fast good to see you my friend Wow

0:10

that was fast good to see you too,

0:12

brother. We just got right into it

0:14

You got down at roll. You're organized

0:16

you're a rare guest. I actually you

0:19

know what I normally don't bring notes,

0:21

but I was talking to Cali means

0:23

on the way over here and you

0:26

know we're we're really supporting Bobby Kennedy's

0:28

whole maha you know, movement and trying

0:30

to officially put a committee together to

0:32

really give him some great talking points

0:35

and then bring some of the big

0:37

influencers together to help him message, you

0:39

know, around the media. And I was

0:41

like, what are some of the wins

0:43

that we've had in the last week that

0:45

I don't know about? And so he just

0:48

rattled them off and I just shouted them

0:50

down. Well, I mean, you know, so Trump

0:52

formed this strong kids commission and if you

0:54

remember when he first got into office,

0:56

he actually, by executive order, he

0:58

authorized Bobby to do a study with the

1:01

you know health and human services to to

1:03

look into the genesis of chronic disease because

1:05

nobody nobody's talking about it the National Institute

1:07

of Health or National Library of Medicine or

1:09

in our you know public health policy nobody's

1:12

talking about what's causing this yeah I wonder

1:14

why they're not talking about it well I

1:16

could give you a couple of I could

1:18

give you a money you do with it

1:21

no way your conspiracy theorist dude you're down

1:23

the rabbit hole that's my problem you think

1:25

that just because people get paid they do

1:27

things that are shady Yeah, I know. That's

1:30

a weird thing to think. I should

1:32

stop thinking that way. Yeah, I mean,

1:34

for you, you know, we make a

1:36

hundred and ten billion dollars a year

1:38

on type two diabetes. You, they're trying

1:40

to put that out of business for

1:42

sure. Yeah, they don't want that money.

1:44

No, no, no. They're like, hey, Stan,

1:46

how do we get this off the

1:48

balance sheet, bro? How do we, how

1:50

do we get rid of, just eating

1:53

pie and drinking soda until their body

1:55

just starts to cave in? Yeah, but

1:57

don't worry we got. That's worth how

1:59

much a year? 110 billion dollars. Type

2:01

2 diabetes is a lot. It's not

2:03

like that would change anybody's opinions on

2:05

things. Well, I mean, a lot of

2:07

people could live on that. There's a

2:09

lot of people that could live on

2:11

that. Is that funny? A lot of

2:13

people could live on what's killing other

2:15

people. Yeah. Isn't that funny? Like a

2:17

lot of people are buying yachts on

2:20

what is killing people. Wild. The interesting

2:22

thing is is. You know, look at

2:24

our food stamp program, which is, you

2:26

know, the SNAP program, which is one

2:28

of the biggest subsidies that we have

2:30

in the government, $120 billion a year.

2:32

Ten billion of that is going to

2:34

subsidize sodas. I mean, tell you need soda,

2:36

it's a part of the fear food

2:38

pyramid, I think. It's right up there

2:40

with Lucky Charms, right? Yeah, Lucky Charms

2:42

is above, right above ground beef. Yep,

2:44

and grasshead steak. And then

2:47

you get to the top and

2:49

you got soda. And so it's

2:51

just, it's phenomenal. And then the

2:53

American Heart Association, just. ironically comes

2:55

out in favor of soda in

2:57

the snap food program. And we

3:00

went over that and we found

3:02

out that they're paid by Pepsi

3:04

and by Coca-Cola. Wow, it's just so

3:06

dark. Yeah, it's so it's so crazy

3:08

it is American Heart Association gets money

3:10

from Coca-Cola and Pepsi Yeah, you know,

3:12

I checked into my air BB here

3:14

in Austin which which by the way

3:16

love Austin man I see that I

3:18

see why you came here We covered

3:20

it all on my podcast. Well, I

3:22

won't go down that rabbit hole, but

3:24

it truly is man. People are amazing

3:26

went to this little restaurant called the

3:29

well which I love and they catered

3:31

all my food, but there's like a

3:33

Yeah, a lot of healthy people. So

3:35

I check into the Airbnb and I go

3:37

into the closet, like the owner's closet wasn't

3:39

locked and I went into the owner's closet.

3:41

Of course, it's like all Cheerios and cookies

3:44

and crackers and I pulled a couple of

3:46

bottles of these seed oils out and I

3:48

did a little post about it because I

3:50

was like, look at all the heart healthy

3:53

labels on this. And we talked about seed

3:55

oils last time, but it's, you know,

3:57

and I get attacked a lot for

3:59

it for saying that these. polyensaturated fatty

4:01

acids are bad for you but a

4:04

lot of times it's it's actually not

4:06

the the plant itself it's the distance

4:08

from the plant to the table right

4:10

you explain that because you were explaining

4:13

the other day to us the process

4:15

that that takes to turn rapeseed oil

4:17

which is what canola oil Joe They

4:20

just said their rape seed was problematic.

4:22

So they changed the canola oil. I

4:24

always thought it was corn oil. Corn's

4:26

good for you. Corn oil must be

4:29

great for you. Oh, we're using canola

4:31

oil. Cool. Peanuts. Please explain, though, the

4:33

process. Because it's so vile. It's insane.

4:36

So, rape seed, canola, is a plant.

4:38

Essentially, you put it in a commercial

4:40

press. And it will come out gummy.

4:42

And so to de-gum it, you use

4:45

something called hexane. And hexane, if you

4:47

go to National Institute Health or National

4:49

Library Medicine, you'll see that that is

4:52

a known neurotoxin. It's classified as a

4:54

neurotoxin. Same as fluoride, same as fluoride,

4:56

right? Which is actually fluorosolic acid. We'd

4:58

get to that later. But so we

5:01

degum it with hexane. And then you

5:03

take this degummed oil and you heat

5:05

it to 405 degrees, which turns it

5:08

rancid. I mean, I mean, there's no

5:10

mechanism on earth for temperatures on earth

5:12

for temperatures to reach for temperatures to

5:14

reach for temperatures to reach that much.

5:17

of temperature. So now with denatures it

5:19

turns rancid. So now you, it's putrified

5:21

and it smells. So now you have

5:24

to deodorize it. So we deodorize it

5:26

with sodium hydroxide. So we degum it

5:28

with a powerful neurotoxin. We heat it

5:30

to four and five degrees and turn

5:33

it rancid and then we deodorize it

5:35

with a very powerful carcinogen. And then

5:37

in some cases we bleach it and

5:40

bottle it and put it on the

5:42

shelf. You ever look at, go to

5:44

the grocery store and you see the

5:46

entire. Grocery isle it's it's all these

5:49

like Wesson oils or vegetable oils, but

5:51

they're all exactly the same color Mm-hmm.

5:53

Like exactly they have that same beautiful

5:56

clear here. That's out. They're super healthy.

5:58

You know, no a few squeezed 10,000

6:00

watermelons into watermelon juice and put it

6:02

all in shelf. They would vary a

6:05

little bit. They would vary a little

6:07

bit. But there's no variance there. And

6:09

so this is a chemically controlled process.

6:12

And it's, you know, again, it's not

6:14

back to the polyunsaturated fatty acids per

6:16

se. It's these. it's the pro-inflammatory process

6:18

that they cause in these foam cells

6:21

and the the inflammation in our arterial

6:23

wall which actually calls cholesterol to the

6:25

site of inflammation and we blame cholesterol

6:28

for a lot of the heart disease,

6:30

atherosclerosis, arterial sclerosis because it's at the

6:32

scene of the crime but it you

6:35

know rarely pulls the trigger I mean

6:37

it's cholesterol is kind of like a

6:39

fireman right it gets called to the

6:41

fire to put the fire out right

6:44

and So the theory that if we

6:46

had fewer firemen, we'd have less fires

6:48

is kind of absurd. Right, but that's

6:51

the theory. That's the theory in healthy

6:53

or cholesterol. It might work in California.

6:55

They would, I can see them passing

6:57

that legislation. You know what we need?

7:00

We need less firemen. But, but, you

7:02

know, so the theory that if we

7:04

push down. the firemen, which was called

7:07

to the site of inflammation, meaning we

7:09

reduced the cholesterol, which was called to

7:11

the site of inflammation to cause the

7:13

repair, rather than ask what started the

7:16

fire. That notion is about to be,

7:18

I think, blown out of the water

7:20

by big data. I think you're going

7:23

to see big data, artificial intelligence, and

7:25

early detection, and the next five years

7:27

are just going to circumvent the entire

7:29

system. Do you think there's a possibility

7:32

of removing food oils from the market?

7:34

I don't think that will ever replace.

7:36

I want food oils, excuse me. Seed

7:39

oils. I don't think that will ever

7:41

replace seed oils. Why not? I think

7:43

what's really interesting is the chemical processing.

7:45

So another really good thing, and I'm

7:48

helping to author this paper with Callie

7:50

Means and a bunch of other folks

7:52

to present it to Bobby Kennedy in

7:55

looking at the genesis of chronic disease.

7:57

Because if you just, and I know

7:59

lots of people have talked about this

8:01

on your show, so I won't belabor

8:04

the point, but if you look at

8:06

this. of $4.5 trillion a year on

8:08

health care in the United States. And

8:11

then you say, well, what do we

8:13

lead the world in? Well, as of

8:15

December 6th, we rank 66 in the

8:17

world in life expectancy. We lead the

8:20

world in morbid obesity, type 2 diabetes,

8:22

multiple chronic disease in the single biome,

8:24

meaning not just our population has multiple

8:27

different chronic diseases, but multiple chronic diseases

8:29

in the same body, because most people

8:31

don't just have one autoimmune immune disease,

8:33

or they're not just hyperintensive and diabetic.

8:36

they're hypertensive diabetic and hypotheroid with an

8:38

autoimmune, usually multiple autoimmune. We lead the

8:40

world in infant mortality, maternal mortality, and

8:43

so you gotta ask yourself, how is

8:45

four and a half trillion dollars a

8:47

year in spending leading to these kinds

8:49

of consequences? And very often, it's actually

8:52

not the food, it's the distance from

8:54

the food to the table. So it's

8:56

not necessarily the plant. it's what we're

8:59

doing to process these plants to get

9:01

them on the table. And so I

9:03

think what you're going to see is

9:05

these grass guidelines generally regarded as safe,

9:08

which is essentially how the FDA decides

9:10

whether or not you can micropoise in

9:12

the population. So we are allowed to

9:15

micro poison the population, right? We're allowed

9:17

to put certain amounts of pesticides, herbicides,

9:19

insecticides, preservatives. That is a great way

9:21

of putting it too. It's micro poisoning.

9:24

Yeah. So that's really what's happening. It's

9:26

exactly what's happening. And a lot of

9:28

experts will say that dosage determines the

9:31

poison. And that's largely untrue when you

9:33

talk about cumulative dose toxicity, meaning... If

9:35

I give you this sandwich and this

9:37

piece of tuna fish and it has

9:40

a very small, safe amount of lead

9:42

or mercury, it's probably not going to

9:44

hurt you. But if you don't methylate

9:47

that metal out of your body and

9:49

you keep eating that same kind of

9:51

fish, I mean, nobody got mercury poisoning

9:53

from a single piece of tuna fish.

9:56

What they got mercury poisoning from was

9:58

continuing to eat the same thing over

10:00

and over and over and over again,

10:03

and they got a cumulative dose toxicity.

10:05

So, in other words, I can't just

10:07

say if I put, you know, one

10:09

drop of arsenic in this glass, is

10:12

that going to kill you? It might

10:14

make you mildly sick, cause an inflammatory

10:16

process, maybe it's not going to kill

10:19

you. But if you drink one of

10:21

those five times a day, seven days

10:23

a week, Now you're toxic and that's

10:25

what's happened to our country. We didn't

10:28

get here quickly. We got here by

10:30

slowly stacking these micro poisons. Right, but

10:32

is it possible to change all of

10:35

like whatever we use seed oil for?

10:37

Is it possible to swap that out

10:39

for olive oil or beef tallow? Yes.

10:41

I know there's some companies doing like

10:44

Masa makes these great tortilla chips. Love

10:46

most. Organic Corn, tallow, they taste like

10:48

it too. Like you feel like you're

10:51

eating food. Yeah. You know, we talked

10:53

about those Vandri chips too. Vandee, Vandee,

10:55

Vandee chip, I love those. I do

10:57

too. They're so good. It's just potatoes

11:00

and beef tallow with a little salt.

11:02

Yeah. And it tastes like food. Like

11:04

when I eat them, I don't feel

11:07

like a piece of shit. Like if

11:09

I eat a delicious. yourself here. I

11:11

do. I'm so disappointed in you. But

11:13

isn't it possible to just replace those

11:16

or would it require? Is it one

11:18

of those things like there's an issue

11:20

with factory farming? Everybody thinks factory farming

11:23

is disgusting when it comes to animals.

11:25

It's it's vile what they do to

11:27

chickens and pigs, but is it possible?

11:30

to give everyone cheeseburgers in food deserts

11:32

without factory farming? Like have we gotten

11:34

so far ahead of ourselves that we

11:36

don't have sustainable regenerative agriculture as an

11:39

option? I don't think so at all.

11:41

So you think that all the foods,

11:43

all the salad dressings and all the

11:46

French fries and all the things that

11:48

are cooked in food oil, we have

11:50

enough beef tallow, we have enough olive

11:52

oil, we have enough avocado, we have

11:55

enough avocado oil, that we could... switch

11:57

off. those things out and everything would

11:59

be great. There is no question that

12:02

we have the capacity to to produce

12:04

these and we have the capacity to

12:06

produce them now. I mean a lot

12:08

of these farms don't use the bones

12:11

from these cattle, they don't use the

12:13

hide from these cattle, they don't use

12:15

the hide from these cattle, they don't

12:18

use the hide from these cattle, they

12:20

don't boil on the collagen from these

12:22

cattle, they don't use the hide from

12:24

these cattle, they don't boil a lot

12:27

of bones, a lot of... They will

12:29

use the entire animal. They'll boil down

12:31

the bones. They'll use the hide. They'll

12:34

use the bone marrow. It's kind of

12:36

crazy because there's a big market for

12:38

bone broth. There's a big market for

12:40

beef tallow. Why wouldn't they? I mean,

12:43

they're just wasting money. I think you

12:45

have the perception that there's a big

12:47

market for because you're kind of in

12:49

a no. Right, you're probably in the,

12:52

I hate to use this term,

12:54

but woke 1%, right? If you,

12:56

if you went, you went into

12:58

it. He's like, did he call me

13:00

woke? It used to be cool.

13:02

When I mean woke 1%, I

13:04

hate that word woke. Well, it's,

13:06

you're using it the correct way,

13:08

though. You're using the way African Americans

13:10

used to use it. Black people

13:12

used to call woke, like, like,

13:14

you're awake, like, you're awake, I'm

13:16

woke, you can't sneak that. Like a

13:19

lot of things. Exactly. Did we? Did we

13:21

fuck that up to us? Not us. But the

13:23

ones with blue hair. Yeah, now means a

13:25

whole different. Yeah, a whole different body. Well now

13:27

it's essentially a pejorative. They can't even use

13:29

it in a positive way. You know, that's

13:31

beaten down. But I like it because it's

13:33

kind of like you can just be triggered

13:35

about anything now so it's so it's so

13:37

convenient. Yes. You know, because I can really

13:39

silence you if you start out like out

13:41

like out like out. intellectualizing

13:44

me. I can just be like, dude,

13:46

you're triggering me. You're hurting my feelings.

13:48

You're triggering me with information. I kid

13:51

you not. I've never talked about this.

13:53

I'm probably gonna lose half my

13:55

audience, but I was, I went to

13:57

Harvard University for this thing, this longevity.

14:00

summit through a very good friend of

14:02

mine. I won't mention his name because

14:04

I don't give away the event that

14:06

I was at. I call my wife

14:08

on day two and I was like,

14:10

babe, I feel like I landed on

14:12

Mars. I go, I gotta get out

14:14

of here. And she goes, what is

14:16

going on? I said, I just listened

14:19

to a panel of PhDs for four

14:21

hours debate about whether or not a

14:23

micro aggression is something that could happen

14:25

to you. that you don't recognize that

14:27

was causing a micro trauma. That the

14:29

other person didn't realize they were doing,

14:31

but it was still creating an unsafe

14:33

environment. I think there should be mandatory

14:35

judicitsu classes for those people. My head

14:37

was so twisted. Here's your micro trauma.

14:39

Yeah, when they passed the microphone to

14:41

me, I got so much trouble. I

14:44

won't say his last thing about Daniel.

14:46

He's still mad at me right now.

14:48

a bunch of people. This whole this

14:50

whole panel up here, you guys sound

14:52

like you boarded a spaceship and literally

14:54

left Mother Earth because I have no

14:56

idea what you're talking about. You are

14:58

talking about trying to identify something that

15:00

you by its very nature say you

15:02

don't know if you have it or

15:04

you don't. So let's just admit that

15:07

it's a ghost. So how are we

15:09

gonna we can't measure it? We can't

15:11

find it. We can't prove you don't

15:13

have it. So how are we gonna

15:15

trade it? What's this culture of victimization

15:17

and the monetization? It's like there's a

15:19

there's status in victimization You know, that's

15:21

the thing they've essentially made it like

15:23

a virtue to be a victim. So

15:25

you're looking for little things that have

15:27

possibly I believe there's a micro aggression.

15:29

I think I felt it possibly rolled

15:32

his eyes I mean that is gonna

15:34

haunt me. I'm neat therapy now I

15:36

think he might have rolled his eyes.

15:38

And that's absolutely acceptable. That is micro

15:40

aggression, like maybe rolling your out, like

15:42

you say something, man, I go, okay.

15:44

And I leave, oh my God, that

15:46

was a microagression. But what I just

15:48

did, going, okay. But here's the micro

15:50

aggression. Is you're kind of off the

15:52

hook? Because if you didn't intentionally create

15:55

the microagression, I just perceived it as

15:57

a micro-aggression. Depends on the land. If

15:59

I'm a white heterosexual, cis male, I

16:01

got problems. And you're screwed. So anyway,

16:03

back to the food supply. We took

16:05

a you turn there for a second.

16:07

30,000 foot view and you say, let's

16:09

just look at the broad strokes on

16:11

the blue zone research, right? There's no

16:13

continuity between diets in these blue zones.

16:15

So it's not keto, paleo, pesceterian, vegan,

16:18

vegetarian, you know, raw food, Atkins. It's

16:20

whole food, just what you were just

16:22

saying. Whole food and a lot of

16:24

healthy lifestyle. Whole food, well the two

16:26

things that were non-interchangeable were sense of

16:28

purpose in community and activity into later

16:30

in life. So you didn't have any

16:32

of the blue zones where people didn't

16:34

feel a sense of purpose and community

16:36

in life. In fact, there were no

16:38

such things as assisted care living facilities.

16:40

assisted care in those countries as mom

16:43

and dad moved back in with the

16:45

kids until the day that they die.

16:47

And there's a lot to be said

16:49

for that because... Maybe grandma's only purpose

16:51

is to go out and get vegetables

16:53

for dinner that night, but she has

16:55

a purpose. And she's a part of

16:57

the community. And she's not locked up

16:59

in a home with a bunch of

17:01

people who don't really care about her.

17:03

Yeah, you know, we knew something in

17:06

the mortality space because I used to

17:08

study mortality and mortality research and we

17:10

knew that if you wanted to cut

17:12

somebody's life expectancy in half at any

17:14

age, and I mean at any age,

17:16

you put them in isolation. create isolation,

17:18

you dramatically reduce, if not half, the

17:20

life expectancy. Now later in life, we

17:22

would call this broken heart syndrome, caregiver

17:24

syndrome, and these were actually very valid

17:26

syndrom. So if we actually were doing

17:28

the life expectancy on an elderly spatter...

17:31

spouse who was

17:33

still applying for insurance

17:35

or we were

17:37

looking at what's called

17:39

a second to

17:41

die claim on life

17:43

insurance policy and

17:45

one spouse had passed

17:47

away, we would

17:49

dramatically reduce the life

17:51

expectancy of the

17:54

second spouse. The reason

17:56

why that's important

17:58

is I think that

18:00

people don't realize

18:02

that we are actually

18:04

being isolated in

18:06

plain sight, right? I

18:08

mean, we are

18:10

trying to create connection

18:12

through our phones,

18:14

we're trying to create

18:16

connection through social

18:19

media, and these are

18:21

not human connections.

18:23

In fact, if you

18:25

look at the

18:27

rates of depression, suicide,

18:29

suicidal ideation, obesity, chronic

18:33

mental illness, and I think we actually

18:35

have a chronic lack of mental fitness, not

18:37

necessarily a mental illness crisis in this

18:39

country. And if you look at the skyrocketing

18:41

rates of these conditions and how they

18:43

are creeping into younger and younger and younger

18:45

generations, you've got nine year olds being

18:47

treated for depression now, right? So

18:50

what's happening? What's happening is isolation in

18:52

plain sight, we don't problem solve anymore,

18:54

we don't have communities with our friends

18:57

anymore, we actually don't build social connections,

18:59

we've lost our connection to mother nature.

19:01

That's why I like going out to

19:03

my place in Colorado, it's probably like

19:05

you like bow hunting and just old

19:07

school connection to mother nature and how

19:09

freaking good do you feel? Yeah, it's

19:12

very, very good. I really wish I

19:14

lived in nature, I'd really like to

19:16

be living in the woods again. I'm

19:18

working on it, man. Would you say

19:20

you're trying to get something outside of

19:22

town? I think that's the move. Yeah,

19:24

I think nature is a vitamin. I

19:26

really do. I think it's a mental

19:29

health vitamin. I think there's something about

19:31

being in nature. There's a feeling you

19:33

get, especially when your phone doesn't work,

19:35

when you get out there and you

19:37

look at your phone like zero bars,

19:39

and you're out there in like real

19:41

woods, you just feel better, you just

19:44

feel more tuned in, your birds and

19:46

branches snapping, things going on, coyotes, and

19:48

it's like, God damn, it feels good.

19:50

We have this place in Colorado. My

19:53

wife and I, she's been going to

19:56

for 35 years since she was a

19:58

little, little girl. When we got together

20:00

10 years ago, she started bringing me

20:02

and my family. out there and her her father's got 10

20:04

acres or her uncle's got 10 acres and then this 50 acre piece came

20:06

on the market so we bought it we bought it we're

20:08

building these old school like really authentic

20:11

log cabins on there and I write

20:13

about this all the time because in

20:15

Miami I have this really fancy place

20:17

and I've got all this fancy equipment

20:20

you know red lake therapy beds hyper

20:22

barracks hydrogen beds all that

20:24

stuff but I'll go out to this

20:26

Colorado home Put on a 20 pound ruxac.

20:28

I know you do a 150 pound

20:31

ruxac, so I feel like a complete

20:33

most of the time I do 45

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21:37

wells. Oh shit no I really I'm not

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is a short burst. This is not like

21:44

long distance. You know it's just I just

21:46

do it to tax my system Well,

21:49

I do farmer's carries foot, too. I do

21:51

that too. Yeah, farmer's carries, I actually like

21:53

that. Well, that's what I mean by that.

21:55

Yeah. I think farmer's carries, like, suitcase carries,

21:57

are actually better. You know, what? One hand?

21:59

One. Oh, one hand. Yeah, because then

22:01

it makes you balance on the

22:03

other side and then you swap

22:05

it out to the other side.

22:07

Oh, okay. Yeah, I've heard from

22:10

a lot of people that it's,

22:12

instead it's actually better. Actually, that

22:14

makes a lot of sense to

22:16

me because, you know, you're not

22:18

just, you're not just, you know,

22:20

you're not just, you know, you're

22:22

not just, you know, you're not

22:24

just, you know, just load bearing

22:26

the spine, you know, in my,

22:28

you know, vest and go, but

22:30

it's just kind of funny, I

22:32

took a picture of myself in

22:34

the woods the other day, posted

22:36

on social media, and I had

22:38

sidearm people with bananas. Ah, because

22:40

I've got... Yeah, you don't want

22:42

to get eaten by a mount

22:44

line. It does happen. It probably

22:47

won't happen, but guess what, if

22:49

I have a gun? It's not

22:51

going to happen, yeah. There's a

22:53

fucking great video of a bow

22:55

hunter who is being attacked by

22:57

a mountain line, and the mountain,

22:59

Get back! Get back! Get back!

23:01

And you see the thing lock

23:03

on him and start closing in.

23:05

It's like 15 feet away and

23:07

then bang! And then you see

23:09

the thing twitching and it's got

23:11

a hole in its face. He

23:13

was above on it. Yeah, but

23:15

he had a side arm. That's

23:17

why he had a pistol on

23:19

him. Yeah, it happens in Colorado.

23:22

I mean, bear attacks, I mean,

23:24

it fucking happens. Bear attacks are

23:26

fairly rare in Colorado. It's only

23:28

when you cross the... Apparently if

23:30

you just come upon the Cubs

23:32

and the mother, that's the issue.

23:34

The real issue is not the

23:36

bears that are in Colorado though.

23:38

The real issue is the bears

23:40

in Wyoming and Montana, brown bears.

23:42

Brown bears, which you have to

23:44

worry about, black bears, not as

23:46

much. But occasionally, like a big

23:48

black bear will go after people.

23:50

Yeah, but anyway, I take a

23:52

sidearm and I'll mark around in

23:54

there, but when I'm done, I

23:56

feel like I took a limitless

23:59

bill. Mm-hmm. Just something, I totally

24:01

agree with you, something out there.

24:03

And I get this little squirrels,

24:05

so funny man, I leave my

24:07

house and start climbing up in

24:09

the woods, I have this little

24:11

four mile kind of track, and

24:13

there's a squirrel, I don't know

24:15

if it'll be there this year,

24:17

but every year that I go

24:19

out there, and he barks at

24:21

me, right? And he kind of

24:23

growls, it doesn't sound like a

24:25

little bark, and then he choose

24:27

a... acorns off and grabs him

24:29

with both hands and throws him

24:31

down on me. It's so funny

24:33

and he'll follow me from limb

24:36

to limb. I shit you not

24:38

and I look forward to seeing

24:40

him every day. Like I feel

24:42

like he's pissed off. Maybe it's

24:44

a sign of love. I don't

24:46

know. It's definitely pissed off. He

24:48

doesn't love you. Yeah. Somebody probably

24:50

hunted one of his family. We

24:52

don't take a sign arm. People

24:54

do hunt squirrels. You know, they

24:56

eat squirrels. we have the capacity

24:58

to replace these oils. We actually

25:00

have a way to get, you

25:02

know, back away from industrial farming

25:04

and get back to local farming.

25:06

You know, there's a, I have

25:08

a very good frame named Alfie

25:10

Oaks, and he owns one of

25:13

the more profitable grocery stores in

25:15

America. It's in Naples, Florida, called

25:17

Seed to Table. And He took

25:19

me out by helicopter one time

25:21

and we hopped around to a

25:23

bunch of his organic fields. He's

25:25

got thousands of acres in the

25:27

middle of the state of Florida.

25:29

And he showed me how he's

25:31

not only able to grow produce

25:33

for less money than he would

25:35

grow it if he had to

25:37

use herbicides and pesticides and chemicals.

25:39

He's able to pick it at

25:41

9 o'clock in the morning and

25:43

have it on the grocery store

25:45

shelf by 2 o'clock in the

25:48

afternoon. And I watched the whole

25:50

process go down. Thousands and thousands

25:52

of these acres. And you know,

25:54

white flies are the pest flies

25:56

they're trying to avoid. Instead of

25:58

spraying for these white flies they're

26:00

trying to avoid. Instead of spraying

26:02

for these white flies, what they

26:04

do is they just use this

26:06

reflective sprayed on these. There's no...

26:08

preservatives. His team picks this stuff

26:10

by 9 o'clock in the morning.

26:12

It goes into a processing center

26:14

and by processing I mean it

26:16

gets washed. That's it. And then

26:18

it's on a truck and it's

26:20

on the shelf by 2 o'clock

26:22

in the afternoon. So you can

26:25

grab a strawberry in this grocery

26:27

store. and eat it, and it

26:29

was growing at 9 AM that

26:31

morning. And there are mechanisms for

26:33

us to do that, yes, I

26:35

get, some stuff needs to be

26:37

shipped and stored. But most regenerative

26:39

farming practices are not only green

26:41

and good for the environment, they're

26:43

economically feasible. They actually make economic

26:45

sense. And you know, when he

26:47

talks about the fact that we've

26:49

been spraying some of these fields

26:51

for so many decades with... or

26:53

so many years with these herbicides

26:55

and insecticides, that there is not

26:57

a pest for in some cases

26:59

hundreds of miles, but we are

27:02

still spraying for those pests. He

27:04

said you got to start to

27:06

question what the motivation is. Yeah,

27:08

probably financial. And yeah, you know,

27:10

we're talking about you said something

27:12

earlier interesting that you think it's

27:14

not, what was the term that

27:16

you used? It's not a mental

27:18

health problem, it's a lack of

27:20

mental strength. Mental fitness. Mental fitness.

27:22

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, if you

27:24

think about it. You got any

27:26

of those hydrogens? Yeah, yeah, you

27:28

want to have them? Maybe, come

27:30

on. I love these. I'm addicted.

27:32

I love these too, yeah. Explain

27:34

to people what these are. So

27:36

hydrogen gas, I mean, this is

27:39

probably my favorite bio hack in

27:41

the world, because it'll cost you

27:43

about a dollar a dollar a

27:45

day. These are called H2 tab.

27:47

and get them a drink H2

27:49

tab.com, you can actually read the

27:51

science on it. I think there's

27:53

two people in the world now,

27:55

I mean those that have read

27:57

the science and take hydrogen gas,

27:59

drink hydrogen water and those that

28:01

don't, or just haven't read the

28:03

science because hydrogen gas, first of

28:05

all, it's the lightest element in

28:07

the universe. It's also the most

28:09

prevalent element in the universe. 10%

28:11

of your body weight is hydrogen.

28:14

I think in fact if you

28:16

took hydrogen, oxygen, oxygen, carbon and

28:18

nitrogen, carbon and nitrogen, that's 96%

28:20

of your mass, that's 96% of

28:22

your mass. elements. So hydrogen is

28:24

about 10% of your body weight.

28:26

And hydrogen is not just an

28:28

antioxidant. selective antioxidant. Right, so if

28:30

you look at oxidative stressors like

28:32

nitric oxide or superoxide or hydrogen

28:34

peroxide, okay, so all of these

28:36

these these oxidative stressors, they can

28:38

be good in certain amounts. You

28:40

need a certain amount of nitric

28:42

oxide, right, in your body, but

28:44

but too much nitric oxide is

28:46

bad. So if you were to

28:48

take an antioxidant like vitamin C,

28:51

and take very very high doses

28:53

of antioxidants. This can be very

28:55

bad for you because you're suppressing

28:57

too much oxidation in the body.

28:59

You're actually suppressing these oxidative stressors

29:01

too much. Hydrogen, on the other

29:03

hand, uses the body's homeostatic process

29:05

to suppress inflammation. So in other

29:07

words, it works through something called

29:09

the NRF2 pathway. It affects a

29:11

protein called NRF2, which moves into

29:13

the DNA. binds to the DNA

29:15

and then the DNA spits out

29:17

the instructions for catalase, superoxide dismutase,

29:19

and glutathion. So in other words,

29:21

you're actually using the body's regulatory

29:23

system to actually control inflammation instead

29:25

of externally trying to control inflammation.

29:28

And the second thing it does

29:30

is it targets the only oxidative

29:32

free radical that I think all

29:34

of the signs points to as,

29:36

which is hydroxyl radical. having no

29:38

use in the body. So it

29:40

selectively targets that and regulates the

29:42

rest of the inflammatory process by

29:44

using the body's homeostasis. So I

29:46

guess a very long-winded way of

29:48

saying that hydrogen gas can go

29:50

anywhere in the body. It reduces

29:52

inflammation, proves memory. There's really interesting

29:54

study published on the Journal of

29:56

Experimental Gerontology, and it was published

29:58

in November of 2021. And most,

30:00

you know, of these clinical research

30:02

studies, they'll look at younger populations,

30:05

like healthier younger populations, but this

30:07

actually looked at a six-month study

30:09

on... hydrogen water versus non-hydrogen water

30:11

in 70-year-old and older folks. And

30:13

they use something called tattoo to

30:15

measure methylation. They measure cognitive function,

30:17

sleep scores, sit-stand ratios, how well

30:19

they're able to sit and stand,

30:21

telomere lengths in their chromosomes. And

30:23

the really fascinating thing about this

30:25

study is it done during COVID.

30:27

So these seniors were basically imprisoned.

30:29

So they were not mobile. And

30:31

the only difference between the groups

30:33

that they that they controlled for

30:35

was the presence of hydrogen water.

30:37

At the end of this six-month

30:39

period during the lockdown, the non-control

30:42

group had lost 11% in their

30:44

telomeres. The non-control group had gained

30:46

4%. They had better short-term recall,

30:48

better cognitive scores, better circulation, improving

30:50

cardiac cardiac markers, improving cardiac markers

30:52

like C-reactive protein. I think it's

30:54

I think it's the greatest bio

30:56

hack on earth that and like

30:58

some sea salt and some amino

31:00

acids like a perfect amino I

31:02

mean just covering your bases I

31:04

think those are those your foundational

31:06

basics for for off the mile

31:08

and it's like delicious comes to

31:10

good flavors and it's easy to

31:12

drink it's like a pain free

31:14

thing that you can do you

31:17

can bathe in it too Can

31:19

actually bathe in hydrogen gas? How

31:21

many tabs you put in the

31:23

water? You can actually put, oh

31:25

it's called a hydrogen bomb, which

31:27

just looks like a big bath

31:29

bomb, it just creates hydrogen gas.

31:31

It's elemental magnesium. Will you do

31:33

for it when you bathe in

31:35

it? It goes right transdermal, it

31:37

goes right to the skin. So

31:39

remember hydrogen is the smallest lightest

31:41

element that we know of. So

31:43

it will go right transdermal. And

31:45

these hydrogen gas will form in

31:47

between water molecules. So water molecules

31:49

H2O, but hydrogen gas can actually

31:51

exist outside of the water molecule.

31:54

And when you put excess hydrogen

31:56

gas into the water, it will

31:58

go right transdermal. And you know

32:00

I have two of these baths

32:02

at my house. I never talk

32:04

about it like on social media.

32:06

I guess I'm about to talk

32:08

about it now. But I have

32:10

literally put people into these tubs.

32:12

I'm kidding you not. Crippled with

32:14

arthritis. And they will skip out

32:16

of my unit like they won

32:18

the lottery. It's incredible. I mean.

32:20

So transdermal reduction of inflammation in

32:22

joints from these hydrogen bombs. How

32:24

long is it last? Or from

32:26

a hydrogen bath. You can get

32:28

these machines. You can get these

32:31

machines. One for your house is

32:33

about $7,500, $8,000, $8,000. They make

32:35

some that make nanoparticles, which are

32:37

about 1,500th, the diameter of a

32:39

human poor. So if you run

32:41

these things on your face, it'll

32:43

actually push all the seble amount

32:45

of your skin. It'll get rid

32:47

of dandruff, psoriasis, eczema. If you

32:49

have any kind of inflammatory condition,

32:51

like knees, shoulder, shoulder, rotator cuff,

32:53

arthritis, low back. you can add

32:55

it to a cold plunge. And

32:57

what's interesting about adding it to

32:59

a cold, in fact, I use

33:01

this cold life cold plunge, and

33:03

I've got these guys trying to

33:05

see if we can incorporate the

33:08

hydrogen gas into the cold plunge.

33:10

So where the motor pulls the

33:12

cold water out, it's going to

33:14

send it into a hydrogen generator

33:16

and then push it back into

33:18

the tub because as the temperature

33:20

drops in water, you can saturate

33:22

more gas. So a 48-degree, quote

33:24

me exactly on this, but a

33:26

48-degree cold plunge will hold about

33:28

twice as much gas as a

33:30

102-degree, you know, warm tub. So

33:32

if you're like, it's taking like

33:34

a warm bath. So you're going

33:36

to be cold plunging for three

33:38

to six minutes every day, or,

33:40

you know, that's what you and

33:43

I do. You might as well

33:45

be in there with hydrogen gas.

33:47

And so I'm working with these

33:49

guys from goal life to see

33:51

if we can plumb these hydrogen

33:53

generators. It creates a hydrogen gas

33:55

by taking distilled water and breaking

33:57

distilled water apart and then throwing

33:59

the gas. into the water and

34:01

it is noticeably different when you

34:03

bathe in this gas or not. Like I

34:05

had Sean Ryan over to my house for

34:08

a podcast one time and you know he's

34:10

all panged up from being a

34:12

Navy SEAL and he's got nips

34:14

and bibles all over his body

34:16

and he just thought it was

34:18

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34:21

dude you gotta get my bathtub.

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in. He's talked about it before

36:03

Sean, big shout out brother, but

36:05

he was like, he's like, dude,

36:07

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36:10

I was like, I don't know.

36:12

It's okay, I'm not gonna get

36:14

in there with you. I'll sit

36:16

on the chair outside the top.

36:18

He's like, it freaks me out

36:20

a little bit. I'm gonna be

36:22

honest with you. I said, dude,

36:24

I gave him a fair short.

36:26

So, because I was like, does

36:28

anything on your body hurt? You

36:30

know, your knees, your hips, your

36:32

shoulders, is anything hurt? And he's

36:34

like, dude, everything in my body

36:36

hurts. So, I was like, get

36:38

in there man. And I put

36:40

him in there for 25 minutes

36:42

for 25 minutes. He said it

36:44

was like the first time he

36:46

had slept eight hours and woken

36:48

up net without pain in probably

36:50

15 years. Wow. Yeah, John Jones,

36:52

same thing, you know, I mean,

36:54

John Jones has been very public

36:56

about when I, you know, working

36:58

with me, I've been, I've been

37:00

talking a little while, but right

37:02

before his last fight, I brought

37:04

him one of these hydrogen machines

37:06

to bathe in, and we just

37:08

set up the tub at his

37:10

house. and we ran hydrogen gas

37:12

into the tub so we would

37:14

do red light therapy on he

37:16

would drink hydrogen water and and

37:18

he would bathe in this hydrogen

37:20

gas and it was about 15

37:22

or 20 days after I kind

37:24

of parachuted into his camp and

37:26

and then set all this up

37:28

that he taxed me he was

37:30

like holy shit brother I can't

37:32

believe him you know I'm out

37:34

of pain I'm adding a six

37:36

day to my training routine I'm

37:38

waking up not in pain you

37:40

know I'm sleeping better So it's

37:42

really incredible what hydrogen gas can

37:44

do in the body. And don't

37:46

take my word for it. I

37:48

mean, there's, there actually is a

37:50

really interesting study published by Dr.

37:52

LeBaren, Tyler LeBaren. He's a PhD.

37:54

And he actually, I think his

37:57

PhD is in molecular hydrogen. So

37:59

I should tease him about where

38:01

his life went wrong, then he

38:03

got a PhD in hydrogen. But

38:05

he published a study looking at.

38:07

electrolyzed alkaline water. And when they

38:09

removed the hydrogen gas, all of

38:11

the benefits of alkaline water went

38:13

away. So the benefits from alkaline

38:15

water are coming from the excess

38:17

presence of hydrogen gas. And even

38:19

when you add hydrogen gas to...

38:21

regular water it will drop the

38:23

ERP. It will make the oxygen

38:25

reduction potential negative. So it has

38:27

more of a capacity to donate

38:29

electrons. So I just think it's

38:31

a phenomenal discovery and it's dirt

38:33

cheap. When you were telling me

38:35

that these bottles, water bottles that

38:37

generate hydrogen, they're great in the

38:39

beginning, but that over time they

38:41

deteriorate. Would the same issue happen

38:43

with the hydrogen generators that you

38:45

would use for the coal plunges?

38:47

you know they're a lot more

38:49

robust they're a commercial generator so

38:51

they're they're not actually working under

38:53

pressure so the water flows through

38:55

these so a lot of the

38:57

ways that you create high part

38:59

per million hydrogen gas in these

39:01

water bottles and and I I

39:03

actually just want I'm about to

39:05

put a press release out about

39:07

it I actually just want a

39:09

16 million dollar civil judgment against

39:11

a a fake hydrogen water bottle

39:13

company that used my name, image,

39:15

and likeness to run a bunch

39:17

of ads and sold tens of

39:19

millions of dollars in these bottles.

39:21

But essentially at the bottom of

39:23

these bottles there's something called a

39:25

proton exchange membrane and this proton

39:27

exchange membrane comes in contact with

39:29

the water through electrolysis and it

39:31

creates the hydrogen gas. The problem

39:33

with these bottles is that this

39:35

electrolysis process if you put tap

39:37

water in there and use chlorine

39:39

can actually create... chlorine gas. You

39:42

can also create something called hypochloric

39:44

acid. So what happens is over

39:46

time the bottles that I tested

39:48

because I used to be a

39:50

huge fan of these bottles and

39:52

I carried them everywhere. And I

39:54

would notice that it didn't bubble

39:56

as much, you know, four or

39:58

five months after I, you know,

40:00

had this, had the bottle. And

40:02

so I send it to a,

40:04

be tested, and lo and behold,

40:06

these proton exchange membranes break down

40:08

over time. So the first time

40:10

you use the bottle, you're getting

40:12

very high part per million hydrogen.

40:14

But four or five months later,

40:16

you're getting almost not, you don't

40:18

send you into. Proton Exchange membrane.

40:20

Now some of them you can

40:22

screw off the bottom and they

40:24

theoretically could send it to you,

40:26

but they're expensive. They're like 250,

40:28

300 bucks. I mean, an H2

40:30

tab, like a hydrogen tab, it'll

40:32

cost you a buck a day.

40:34

Right. And so it can travel

40:36

with it. And it gives you

40:38

a higher part per million than

40:40

almost all those bottles. And it's

40:42

consistent. So every single time I

40:44

put one of those tablets in

40:46

the water, it's just a consistent

40:48

dose of hydrogen gas. And I

40:50

used to get a lot of

40:52

shit online because I was promoting

40:54

these bottles so heavily because I

40:56

believed in them tremendously. But the

40:58

average person's out of pocket, 250,

41:00

300 bucks. Right. So there's a

41:02

lot more financially cost effective. Yeah.

41:04

So with the coal plunge thing,

41:06

you're saying so because it's a

41:08

commercial unit, it would work differently

41:10

and it'd be more robust. Well,

41:12

it's not using pressure using pressure.

41:14

Okay. Right? So it's circulating through

41:16

this machine and it's creating, you

41:18

know, using electrolysis and creating the

41:20

hydrogen gas going back to the

41:22

tub because you don't need, you're

41:24

not trying to drink a therapeutic

41:27

dose, you're trying to bathe in

41:29

a dose, you don't need as

41:31

high part per million, so you

41:33

don't need the pressure. But the

41:35

really cool thing is, because if

41:37

you do it in a cold

41:39

plunge, the more... you can do

41:41

it, dissolve more gas in that

41:43

volume of liquid. So ideally you

41:45

would have the hydrogen generator outside.

41:47

your cold plunge, let your cold

41:49

plunge run and fill with hydrogen

41:51

gas and then you're getting in

41:53

there for the inflammatory response anyway

41:55

a lot of times plus the

41:57

brown fat activation and cold shark

41:59

protein release and all the peripheral

42:01

vaso constriction all of that. But

42:03

you would now be exposing yourself

42:05

to very high doses of hydrogen

42:07

gas. You'd feel amazing getting out

42:09

of there. When I bathed in

42:11

that hydrogen gas so my wife

42:13

Sage had a really bad car

42:15

accident right. right before we met

42:17

10 years ago and she severely

42:19

damaged her spine her her L5

42:21

best one and ended up having

42:23

to have a spinal fusion and

42:25

so her L5 S1 is fused

42:27

and even though she's thin she's

42:29

fit she she gets a lot

42:31

of low back pain and when

42:33

her back pain flares up there's

42:35

no chance she's sleeping but when

42:37

we put her into that hydrogen

42:39

nano bath I mean 25 minutes

42:41

in there, she seems like a

42:43

little baby. And it's very calming

42:45

too. It's that shifting you from

42:47

that sympathetic state, that kind of

42:49

fight or flight to that pair

42:51

of sympathetic state of rest and

42:53

digest. You can feel that if

42:55

the effects of that hydrogen gas

42:57

when it goes transdermal and starts

42:59

to relax you, you know, feels

43:01

good. Well, it seems like the

43:03

more effective way is to do

43:05

it in a warm tub though,

43:07

because you can stay in there

43:09

for longer, so you'd get more

43:11

exposure. So you would get less

43:14

hydrogen but more exposure than the

43:16

three minute coal plunge? Yeah, I

43:18

mean, this is where... you know,

43:20

I like to see some data

43:22

which I don't have. So I

43:24

do know that if you if

43:26

the water is cold, you're going

43:28

to you're going to dissolve more

43:30

gas because you're so you're going

43:32

to have a higher part per

43:34

million in cold water than you

43:36

are in warm water. But then

43:38

you got to look at what's

43:40

happening in warm water. You're probably

43:42

having in warm water. You're probably

43:44

having your pores are dilated. You're

43:46

probably having your pores are dilated.

43:48

because it's a higher to higher.

43:50

dose, but I don't have any

43:52

clinical data to say that one

43:54

is better than the other. Have

43:56

you done the coal plunge hydrogen?

43:58

Oh yeah, 100%. I mean, I

44:00

did it with a bath bomb.

44:02

I didn't do it with a

44:04

bath bomb. I did it with

44:06

the one in my house that

44:08

actually have three of these machines.

44:10

I did it with the one

44:12

in my house that recirculates it.

44:14

You throw a hose over one

44:16

side over one side and it

44:18

sucks the water out of your

44:20

coal plunge and then you... throw

44:22

a hose over the other side

44:24

and it puts the hydrogen gas

44:26

back in. How long does the

44:28

process take to hydrogen? I let

44:30

it run for like 15 or

44:32

20 minutes because I wanted it

44:34

to be really saturated and the

44:36

water looks kind of milky. In

44:38

fact I did it, I had

44:40

Laura Trump over for, we shot

44:42

this Fox News. event for her

44:44

show for her large home show

44:46

and I did it for us

44:48

to do this cold plunge shoot.

44:50

I added the hydrogen gas to

44:52

the to the coal punches before

44:54

we got in there felt amazing

44:56

getting out of there. Now I'm

44:59

trying to actually plummet right into

45:01

the coal plunge so it's just

45:03

in line so it just runs

45:05

either all the time or I

45:07

can turn a valve and turn

45:09

the hydrogen gas on and have

45:11

the gas go into the go

45:13

into the coal plunge. So that's

45:15

the next thing but right now

45:17

for people you can just go

45:19

get these hydrogen bath bombs. You

45:21

can get these hydrogen bath bombs.

45:23

Where would you get one of

45:25

those? Drink H2 tab. Okay. Yeah,

45:27

if you go there and get

45:29

the bath bomb. I mean, try

45:31

it. I mean, just throw one

45:33

of those bath bombs in there

45:35

and feel how much different your

45:37

body feels when you're bathing in

45:39

hydrogen gas. It's incredible. I really

45:41

feel like it is one of

45:43

the best. Hacks that so few

45:45

people are using I mean so

45:47

many people aren't any inflammatory so

45:49

many people are suffering from inflammation

45:51

not just neural inflammation in the

45:53

brain But non-specific markers of inflammation

45:55

like C react to protein homocysteine

45:57

that are causing all kinds of

45:59

havoc. I mean you think about

46:01

the fact that about 70% of

46:03

our circulation is not done by

46:05

our heart. Our heart circulates about

46:07

30% of the blood in our

46:09

body, but the other 70% of

46:11

the circulation is an activity called

46:13

vasomotor or vas emotion. I think

46:15

of a snake swallowing a mouse.

46:17

And we don't really cater to

46:19

this part of our circulatory system.

46:21

Explain what you're saying with a

46:23

snake swallowing a mouse? So think

46:25

of a snake. So if the

46:27

heart doesn't circulate... roughly

46:30

70% of the blood in our

46:32

body. How is that circulation occurring?

46:34

Because obviously blood is still moving.

46:36

You have about 63,000 miles of

46:38

blood vessel in your body. And

46:41

so there is, your heart is

46:43

not strong enough in a single

46:45

contraction, your left ventricle, your heart

46:47

that's ejecting that blood is not

46:49

strong enough to push the blood

46:52

through 63,000 miles of vessel. So

46:54

how does the majority of this

46:56

circulation occur? Well, the majority of

46:58

our circulation is microvascular, right? So

47:00

the microvascular circulation does not move

47:03

blood by pressure. It moves blood

47:05

by something called vas emotion or

47:07

vasomotor. And the best way I

47:09

can describe vasomotion or vasomotor is

47:11

to think of a snake swallowing

47:14

a mouse. And the reason why

47:16

I say that is because there's

47:18

no pressure coming in. the front

47:20

of the snake, right? It's not,

47:22

it's not being pushed down the

47:25

snake's throat, it's being muscularly moved

47:27

down the snake's throat. So it's

47:29

a wave-like motion, right? It's a,

47:31

it's this wave-like motion called vasomotor

47:33

or vasomotion. And vascular laxity, how

47:36

the laxity that's in your vessels,

47:38

matters, your blood viscosity matters, and

47:40

inflammation. matters. This is why when

47:42

you look at the percentage of

47:44

high blood pressure diagnoses, for example,

47:47

if you were to just Google,

47:49

what percentage of hypertension, primary hypertension,

47:51

essential hypertension. or you know, high

47:53

blood pressure is idiopathic, right, of

47:55

unknown origin, you'd see that 85%

47:58

of all high blood pressure, high-intensive

48:00

diagnosis, are idiopathic. We don't know

48:02

the origin. And so we examine

48:04

these people's heart, EKG, E-E-E-G, heart

48:06

sounds, lung sounds, maybe a die

48:09

contrast study, maybe a CT and

48:11

geogram, maybe, you know, some other

48:13

kind of diagnostic heart imaging. We

48:15

can't find anything wrong with the

48:17

heart. And we medicate the heart

48:20

anyway, generally for a crime it's

48:22

not committing. When there's an 85%

48:24

chance, it's actually something other than

48:26

the heart. And we never look

48:28

to the microvascular circulation. We never

48:31

look to the 70% of our

48:33

circulation that's actually not done by

48:35

our heart. What are we doing

48:37

to cater to that 70% of

48:39

our circulation? Well, things like respiratory,

48:42

hydrogen gas, lowering our homocysteine, which

48:44

is for most people, it's very

48:46

simple to do. I use an

48:48

amino acid called trimethyl glycoglycylic. to

48:50

help people metabolize homocysteine because there's

48:53

microvasculature is very susceptible to high

48:55

levels of homocysteine. And there's so

48:57

many people that have ailments that

48:59

are consequences of poor circulation and

49:01

we're treating something completely different. So

49:04

for example, we're focusing concentration. lots

49:06

of autoimmune conditions. If you look

49:08

at the circulation in the brain,

49:10

liver, lungs, pancreas, kidneys, you'll see

49:12

that the majority of this circulation

49:15

is micro vascular. You know, I've

49:17

talked about why you and I

49:19

both had a positive experience, for

49:21

example, with red light. What is

49:23

red light doing to our eyes?

49:26

Is it fixing the rods, the

49:28

macula, the cones, the retina? Was

49:30

there something damaged that red light

49:32

fixed? No, it just restored healthy

49:34

vasomotor activity to the vaca motor

49:37

activity to the back? in a

49:39

red light bed. Now am I

49:41

saying a red light bed is

49:43

going to cure your eye? I

49:45

say no. I'll get so beat

49:48

up for that. But red light

49:50

therapy. is extraordinarily good for vasomotor

49:52

circulation. Why do you think it

49:54

improves your skin, the collagen, the

49:56

lastin, the fibrin? Why do you

49:59

think it reduces fine lines and

50:01

wrinkles? Why does it improve? Why

50:03

can it improve our eyesight? Because

50:05

it restores healthy vasomotor activity. And

50:07

there's so much vicarvascular in our

50:10

body that we don't really cater

50:12

to this entire segment of our

50:14

circulatory system. Think about how small

50:16

a capillary an artery artery has

50:18

to be. to carry a fluid

50:21

to the edge of the lung,

50:23

exchange a gas with the inside

50:25

of the lung, pull that gas

50:27

into the fluid and not bleed

50:30

into the lung. So just think

50:32

about how tiny that tube has

50:34

to be and how many of

50:36

those you have to have, because

50:38

don't forget, right outside of your

50:41

lungs, you got fluid, those alveoli

50:43

are grabbing gas and throwing that

50:45

into a fluid. Well, at some

50:47

point, that pipe has to meat.

50:49

a piece of tissue. How is

50:52

it not bleeding into that tissue?

50:54

It is that small. It's microvascular.

50:56

This is also where hydrogen gas

50:58

comes into play. So I don't

51:00

know where I was going with

51:03

that point, but I just find

51:05

it fascinating that we've got so

51:07

many things that we can do

51:09

to cater to a lot of

51:11

these ailments that people chalk up

51:14

to a consequence of aging, and

51:16

they can be as simple as

51:18

catering to that portion of your...

51:20

your circulatory system. It would be

51:22

so fascinating to run a study,

51:25

a long-term study on twins, identical

51:27

twins, and have one person just

51:29

eat the standard American tie, and

51:31

the other person follow all these

51:33

protocols. Hydrogen gas, fitness, healthy food,

51:36

no seed oil, no drinking, and

51:38

just see. Yeah. What do they

51:40

look like after 20 years? 20

51:42

years. 20 years would be wild.

51:44

Wild. Be like in one of

51:47

them to space, you know. And

51:49

it's so funny because, you know,

51:51

you know, We're so wrapped around

51:53

our medical system that's really 50,

51:55

60 years old, 70 years old,

51:58

and how important a randomized clinical

52:00

trial is. and placebo-controlled, randomized clinical

52:02

trial that's been peer-reviewed and all

52:04

of this. But we negate the

52:06

Eastern philosophies that very often have

52:09

been around for thousands of years.

52:11

And I almost have more, lend more

52:13

validity to something that's actually stood the

52:15

test of time. Like something that doesn't

52:18

work is not going to last a

52:20

thousand years. You know, by virtue of the

52:22

fact that it doesn't work. When we

52:24

were in the mortality space, we never

52:27

used randomized clinical trials. We used big

52:29

data. And I think what you're

52:31

about to see now that

52:33

I was alluding to before

52:36

is we built an entire

52:38

system on, you know, the

52:40

most rigorous scientific study being

52:42

the randomized clinical, you know,

52:44

placebo controlled, randomized clinical trial.

52:46

And so that is the

52:48

gold standard. And if it

52:50

hasn't been through this process,

52:53

it is not valid. Well, we've

52:55

never done randomized clinical trials on

52:57

parachutes. Okay, stand. You line up

52:59

here, you're getting the knapsack and

53:02

a prayer book and we're getting

53:04

a parachute. It's a very good

53:06

point. It's a very good point

53:08

for there's some things you really

53:11

can't run randomized controls studies on.

53:13

Yeah, I mean, sometimes we just

53:15

have data, right? We have really

53:17

good data. And one of the

53:20

things I used to get just

53:22

absolutely slaughtered for was I spoke out

53:24

about the... The simple LDR hypothesis

53:26

of cholesterol saying that

53:28

there is no correlation

53:30

between elevated levels of

53:32

LDL cholesterol on its own

53:35

and cardiovascular disease. You had

53:37

to have corresponding increases in

53:40

triglyceride, you had to have

53:42

inflammatory factors, usually had to

53:44

have other metabolic factors

53:46

like hypertraglycerideemia,

53:49

hyperinsulinemia, and yet

53:51

everybody would really... come after me

53:54

for that. And now we're starting

53:56

to see that the data on

53:58

statins is really falling apart. I

54:00

mean, big data is starting to

54:02

tell us that the extension of

54:04

life is near zero, but the

54:06

extension of all cause mortality is

54:08

near zero. And then the complications

54:10

downstream, which we never study, I

54:12

mean, you'll never find a randomized

54:14

clinical trial looking at more than

54:16

one pharmaceutical compound in the same

54:19

biome. Yet almost everybody at the

54:21

age of 60, is on five

54:23

or more prescriptions. But we don't

54:25

study prescriptions in... in concert with

54:27

one another, we study them independently.

54:29

We say, okay, if you have

54:31

high cholesterol, you're on a statin.

54:33

Okay, that's independent. If you have,

54:35

you know, your hemoglobin A1C is

54:38

over 6.4, you're now insulin dependent.

54:40

Okay, so now you're on insulin.

54:42

And you've been a little sad

54:44

lately, so now you're on an

54:46

SSRI. And, you know, your blood's

54:48

gotten a little thick because you're...

54:50

on hormone therapy so now you

54:52

are on a blood thinner. We've

54:54

never studied the compounding effect of

54:57

all of these different pharmaceuticals in

54:59

the same biome. We just assumed

55:01

that the randomized clinical trial in

55:03

these independent silos is valid even

55:05

though we're gonna smack all of

55:07

these things together. One of the

55:09

things that we learned in the

55:11

mortality space was the more pharmaceuticals

55:13

you were on. the easier it

55:15

was for us to predict your

55:18

life expectancy. It was extraordinarily accurate,

55:20

for example, if somebody started a

55:22

corticosteroid, which is very common for

55:24

rheumatoid arthritis and, you know, other

55:26

forms of joint pain and whatnot.

55:28

If you started a corticosteroid, you

55:30

had, by our data, six years

55:32

and one day, that was the

55:34

average. So let's say for example

55:37

that. Why is that? Because initially

55:39

corticosteroids are any inflammatory. but then

55:41

they eat the joint like a

55:43

termite. Oh, God. And you know,

55:45

we knew this in professional sports,

55:47

and a lot of careers were

55:49

ended early, but from cortisone injections.

55:51

You know, a lot of athletes

55:53

had their careers actually end early

55:56

because they got too many, too

55:58

many cortisone injections. How many is

56:00

too many? You know, it sort

56:02

of depends on the joint and

56:04

the location. One of them can

56:06

be beneficial. One of them can

56:08

be very beneficial. In the acute

56:10

phase of pain or injury, they

56:12

can be very beneficial. But what

56:14

they used to do is because

56:17

these were repetitive use injuries and

56:19

very often they would just dose

56:21

the athlete up before a game.

56:23

So I mean, Joe Theisman. I

56:25

mean, not Joe Theisman. Joe Montana.

56:27

He's one of those careers that

56:29

entered early very likely because of

56:31

cortisone injections. And you keep injecting

56:33

the same ligamentous tissue with cortisone,

56:36

eventually you will weaken that tissue

56:38

and it will snap. you know,

56:40

first it has an inflammatory reaction,

56:42

but then it starts to break

56:44

down the cartilage like a termite.

56:46

In fact, it was so accurate

56:48

that very often what would happen

56:50

is people would get misdiagnosed with

56:52

conditions like rheumatoid because they had

56:55

the same symptomology as rheumatoid, but

56:57

what they actually had was a

56:59

long-term clinical deficiency in vitamin D3.

57:01

And and you would see that

57:03

they would have single-digit vitamin D3

57:05

for decades, and then all of

57:07

a sudden they would start to

57:09

present with symptoms that mimics rheumatoid.

57:11

They would say, hey Doc, you

57:13

know, my souls of my feet

57:16

and ankles are sore when I

57:18

got out of bed in the

57:20

morning to go take my first

57:22

peeve, my first peeve, my, I

57:24

feel like I had to work

57:26

out the night before when I

57:28

haven't, you know, my low back

57:30

hurts, and my knees and hips

57:32

and hips and shoulders are stiff,

57:35

now it's spread to my upper,

57:37

now, spread to my upper, spread

57:39

to my upper back, spread to

57:41

my upper back, symptoms to the

57:43

wrong primary care doctor, maybe without

57:45

doing any confirming diagnosis, without said

57:47

rates, without RA factors, they go,

57:49

you know what Joe, you've got

57:51

rheumatoid arthritis. But don't worry, I'm

57:54

going to put you on something

57:56

called a corticosteroid. You're going to

57:58

take this pill every morning. And

58:00

you're going to be fine, methotrexate,

58:02

whatever it is. And initially you

58:05

feel great, because it kills the

58:07

inflammation, but then it starts to

58:09

erode the cartilaginous surface. So if

58:11

you think about the fact that

58:13

you had a nutrient deficiency, that

58:15

you're now being treated with a

58:17

pharmaceutical, and six years and one

58:19

day later, now by the way,

58:21

the methotrexate, for example, will give

58:23

you a gene mutation, a Oh,

58:25

that one. That one. The motherfucker

58:28

gene. The motherfucker gene. So even

58:30

if you don't have MTHFR, um,

58:32

let's try one of those. Yeah,

58:34

I might, I might as we'll

58:36

try it. Um, even if you

58:38

don't have MTHFR, if you take

58:40

methadrexate, you inhibit your folate metabolisms.

58:42

Cheers, pro. No hydrogen gas, no

58:44

coffee. I actually saw you sniffing

58:46

something on one of your podcast.

58:48

What was that? I don't want

58:50

to do it by the way.

58:53

You can do it? No, I'm

58:55

not. No, no, no, no, no.

58:57

Give me a fresh shot. Give

58:59

me a fresh shot. Give me

59:01

a fresh shot. Give me a

59:03

fresh shot. Here we go. I

59:05

just see all this shit over

59:07

here. There's a fresh one. This

59:09

one. This one. Do you know

59:11

who Juufu is? Crazy. Juu Mufu.

59:13

Yeah, super. Well, he's an influencer,

59:16

but he's like very impressive athlete.

59:18

Like super Jack. Dude, if you

59:20

got a name like Ju-ju-mufu-foo. You

59:22

gotta be able to beat ass.

59:24

Incredibly flexible. This is the guy.

59:26

Oh yeah, I've seen him. He's

59:28

a freak. Like a real freak.

59:30

I mean, for sure he's not

59:32

natural. There's not a fucking chance

59:34

in hell, but I don't care.

59:36

But what, uh, he makes this

59:38

stuff. We have no affiliation with

59:41

him, we buy it. It's not,

59:43

we're not sponsored. So people, oh,

59:45

you're making it. Brian Simpson took

59:47

his headphones off and ran out

59:49

of the room. No, I'm not

59:51

getting anywhere near that. No, this

59:53

is a good one. I'm going

59:55

to, I'm going to, I'm going

59:57

to sniff it with the top

59:59

on it. Just a bag. Oh,

1:00:01

and it's sealed. Give me the

1:00:04

bag. I'll do the bag. Just

1:00:06

take a sniff of the bag.

1:00:08

This is so wrong. It is

1:00:10

wrong. I feel so dirty. Oh

1:00:12

my God, dude. Nothing. That's nothing.

1:00:14

That's just the bag that the

1:00:16

smelling salts have been sitting in.

1:00:18

Oh my God. So what power

1:00:20

lifters do is they take a

1:00:22

sniff of this shit right before

1:00:24

they lift weights. You ready? Here

1:00:26

we go. No. Oh, Lordy. Dude.

1:00:29

There is... Come on, bro. Zero

1:00:31

chance. Get on in, get on

1:00:33

in, bro. Come on. Peer pressure.

1:00:35

Get it about six inches from

1:00:37

the nose. Take a haul. It's

1:00:39

good. Get it about six inches

1:00:41

from the nose. Take a haul.

1:00:43

It's good for you. I can't

1:00:45

guarantee it's good. No, no, no,

1:00:47

no. That was nothing. Oh, you're

1:00:49

such a baby. You're a bio

1:00:52

hacker hacker. You're a real man.

1:00:54

Get in there. Get in there.

1:00:57

That's what I'm talking about. That's

1:00:59

what I'm talking about. Let's go.

1:01:01

And that was a freshy. The

1:01:03

fresh ones are the really hard

1:01:06

ones. We have these in the

1:01:08

green room with the comedy club.

1:01:10

People get addicted. They're all I'll

1:01:12

take it snips before they go

1:01:14

on stage. My left. Yeah, we'll

1:01:16

come back better. Come back stronger.

1:01:19

I have no data to support

1:01:21

that. Now I'm going to go

1:01:23

down the rabbit hole of that.

1:01:25

I prefer my high gym water.

1:01:27

About five minutes, you don't say

1:01:29

anything. Give me round two. Yeah.

1:01:32

Where were we, dude? We're actually

1:01:34

something important. I wanted to try.

1:01:36

M MHFR, I think. I did

1:01:38

want to ask you about cholesterol

1:01:40

before I forget. Where did the

1:01:42

narrative come from that there's good

1:01:45

cholesterol and bad cholesterol and that

1:01:47

HDL is good, LDL is bad,

1:01:49

you want to lower your LDL

1:01:51

and you want to take a

1:01:53

statin? Where did all this? So,

1:01:55

you know, high density liver protein

1:01:58

and low density liver protein, you

1:02:00

know, the HDL, the high... of

1:02:02

proteins generally consider the good cholesterol

1:02:04

in the LDL, the low density

1:02:06

or VLDL, very low density lipoproteine

1:02:08

are considered the bad cholesterol because

1:02:11

they're softer, right? But what we

1:02:13

know now is that the size

1:02:15

of the cholesterol molecule matters a

1:02:17

lot. In other words, the smaller

1:02:19

the particulate size of cholesterol, the

1:02:21

easier it is to cross into

1:02:24

the arterial wall. gets eaten by

1:02:26

macrophage and it forms something called

1:02:28

a foam cell, which is essentially

1:02:30

this this foam cell process of

1:02:32

oxidized cholesterol is what is the

1:02:34

genesis of narrowing of the arteries,

1:02:37

right? But again, we have to

1:02:39

remember that cholesterol is called to

1:02:41

the site of inflammation. So if

1:02:43

you had two people, one with

1:02:45

cholesterol of 100 and ILDL cholesterol

1:02:48

and another one with cholesterol of

1:02:50

129, does a person with 129

1:02:52

have a higher instance of cardiovascular

1:02:54

disease? No. Does the person of

1:02:56

129 have a greater risk of

1:02:58

a cardiovascular event? No, just because

1:03:01

they have elevated LDO cholesterol. Now

1:03:03

if you start to look at

1:03:05

other markers like C-reactive protein, which

1:03:07

is a great market for cardiovascular

1:03:09

risk, if you look at triglyceride

1:03:11

cholesterol ratio, because remember, fat triglyceride

1:03:14

is largely transported around the body

1:03:16

on the surface of cholesterol. So

1:03:18

if cholesterol was a tennis ball.

1:03:20

The fuzzy yellow surface would be

1:03:22

a fat triglyceride. And if you

1:03:24

remember from high school geometry, as

1:03:27

the size of a sphere gets

1:03:29

smaller, its surface area two volume

1:03:31

ratio goes up. So what that

1:03:33

means is if I had two

1:03:35

baskets, dude, I can still, that

1:03:37

thing is, I gotta seal this

1:03:40

thing, dude. It's like, it's, I'm

1:03:42

going to go blind in my

1:03:44

left eye. I'm trying to be

1:03:46

smart and I can't see out

1:03:48

on my left eye. That's a

1:03:50

good question. Ammonia? Oh, it's no

1:03:53

joke, man. I remember. I remember

1:03:55

my clinic when Dr. Sardis used

1:03:57

to tape these things to the

1:03:59

wall because she would do these

1:04:01

shoulder injections on people and they

1:04:03

would get woozy and she would

1:04:06

just crack one of those smelling

1:04:08

cells. They used to use them

1:04:10

for boxers when they got knocked

1:04:12

out, when they got knocked out,

1:04:14

when they got rocked and they

1:04:16

got knocked out when they got

1:04:19

rocked and they got into the

1:04:21

corner, they'd give them smelling sauce

1:04:23

and wicker it. So let's say

1:04:25

you had two basketballs with cholesterol.

1:04:27

And let's say I add more

1:04:29

triglyceride to the bloodstream, right? Which

1:04:32

happens when you eat high sugar,

1:04:34

high glycemic carbohydrate. Why? Because part

1:04:36

of insulin's role is to block

1:04:38

forms of energy metabolism that would

1:04:40

allow you to burn fat, or

1:04:42

at least slow those pathways down.

1:04:45

So essentially you have two basketballs

1:04:47

of cholesterol. And now I want

1:04:49

to add more fat to the

1:04:51

table. Those two basketballs become four

1:04:53

softballs. If I had more triglyceride

1:04:56

to the table, they become eight

1:04:58

baseballs. If I had more triglyceride,

1:05:00

they become 16 golf balls. And

1:05:02

if I continue to raise triglyceride,

1:05:04

they'll become 32 little bbbs. So

1:05:06

the point is, the amount of

1:05:09

cholesterol stayed stable. The amount of

1:05:11

triglyceride went up, the size of

1:05:13

the cholesterol molecule got smaller. So

1:05:15

the two basketballs, and the 32

1:05:17

BBs are the same volume of

1:05:19

cholesterol, same nanogram per decileter of

1:05:22

cholesterol. Just vastly different sizes. Those

1:05:24

32 BBs, very dangerous. Those two

1:05:26

basketballs, very little danger. One is

1:05:28

actually a marker for longevity. One

1:05:30

is a marker for cardiovascular disease

1:05:32

and it is the same amount

1:05:35

of cholesterol. Just different sizes. So

1:05:37

different sizes. I got my blood

1:05:39

drawn a couple years ago and

1:05:41

the doctor asked me if I

1:05:43

was on cholesterol medication. your cholesterol

1:05:45

is really low. Because are you

1:05:48

on medication?" I said, no. When

1:05:50

I eat mostly meat. Yeah. Your

1:05:52

triglycerides would usually go down. Your

1:05:54

LDL cholesterol will go up if

1:05:56

you're on ketogenic diet. Dr. I

1:05:58

think it's in the deer sing

1:06:01

is his name. Did it. Unbelievable.

1:06:03

a YouTube video on this. I

1:06:05

actually did a podcast with Dr.

1:06:07

Asim Malhotra, who is a cardiologist.

1:06:09

Has he been here too? Yeah.

1:06:11

Unbelievable. Love that guy. Hey, shout

1:06:14

out to Asim. He's an incredible,

1:06:16

incredible guy. And Asim would tell

1:06:18

you the same thing, that, you

1:06:20

know, he fought the British Medical

1:06:22

Journal and got publications that he

1:06:24

was trying to have published, you

1:06:27

know, pulled because he was fighting

1:06:29

the narrative on statins. One of

1:06:31

the biggest drugs in the... in

1:06:33

the world. We knew in the

1:06:35

mortality space that the centenarians that

1:06:37

we were processing death claims on.

1:06:40

I don't recall a time during

1:06:42

my career when we had a

1:06:44

death claim on a centenarian, somebody

1:06:46

over the age of 100. that

1:06:48

did not have elevated levels of

1:06:50

LDL cholesterol at the time of

1:06:53

their death because very often these

1:06:55

people would die either in hospitals

1:06:57

or cystic care living facilities and

1:06:59

we'd process the death claim and

1:07:01

in order to get the death

1:07:03

claim processed you'd have to know

1:07:06

you know day date time location

1:07:08

cause of death they'd have to

1:07:10

and we'd have to get a

1:07:12

death certificate and these people were

1:07:14

dying with elevated levels of LDL

1:07:17

cholesterol which you would think well

1:07:19

when they have died a lot

1:07:21

younger of cardiovascular disease. And now

1:07:23

the data is starting to come

1:07:25

out to support these other metabolic

1:07:27

issues like hyperincelymia, hypertriglyceridemia, high blood

1:07:30

sugar that these are villains that

1:07:32

precede cholesterol, you know, attaching to

1:07:34

the arterial wall. And so when

1:07:36

we talk about metabolic health, we

1:07:38

really. shouldn't just isolate LDL cholesterol.

1:07:40

We should. be looking at our

1:07:43

blood pressure, you know, our abdominal

1:07:45

obesity, our sugars mainly, whether or

1:07:47

not, you know, what our fasting

1:07:49

blood glucose is, what the three-month

1:07:51

average of our blood sugar is,

1:07:53

our hemoglobin A1C, making sure that's

1:07:56

below preferably 5.4. looking at our

1:07:58

insulin because insulin resistance develops a

1:08:00

long time before a lot of

1:08:02

these things show up and looking

1:08:04

at other inflammatory markers like sea

1:08:06

react to protein and just generalized

1:08:09

markers of inflammation because most people

1:08:11

are eating a very pro-inflammatory diet

1:08:13

and this is why you can't

1:08:15

isolate one thing and say seed

1:08:17

oils are what's killing Americans you

1:08:19

know vaccines or what's killing Americans

1:08:22

aluminum vaccines or you know fluoride

1:08:24

and drinking water it's the cumulative

1:08:26

dose toxicity of all of these

1:08:28

things. You know our water is

1:08:30

toxic. and we have floride, we

1:08:32

have chlorines, we have PFAs, polyfluoralkles,

1:08:35

we have microplastics, we have bisphenols.

1:08:37

You know, I actually did a

1:08:39

test on myself and my entire

1:08:41

family called a vibrant wellness test.

1:08:43

And you, it's a blood and

1:08:45

urine test and essentially it tells

1:08:48

you whether you got mold, microtoxins,

1:08:50

heavy metals, all of these different

1:08:52

things. The amount of BPAs in

1:08:54

my blood and I would consider

1:08:56

myself pretty... on top of my

1:08:58

diet game. The amount of BPAs,

1:09:01

there are traces of jet fuel,

1:09:03

there are affilotoxins. Jet fuel. There

1:09:05

are traces of jet fuel. From

1:09:07

all you're flying? Like accelerants, like

1:09:09

aerosol accelerants, maybe from flying, a

1:09:11

fly a lot. My daughter had

1:09:14

it in her blood too, and

1:09:16

so did my wife. And then

1:09:18

we all had very similar species

1:09:20

of mold, which we got rid

1:09:22

of, and I felt a lot

1:09:25

better. And it was in your

1:09:27

home? It was in, it was

1:09:29

actually in my daughter's apartment. We

1:09:31

actually ended up having our doctor

1:09:33

write a letter and break her

1:09:35

lease and we moved her into

1:09:38

a apartment right next to us

1:09:40

in Coconut Grove in Florida. But

1:09:42

she was starting to have, and

1:09:44

she's a nurse, and she was

1:09:46

starting to have these strained symptoms,

1:09:48

just brain fog, her joints were

1:09:51

just killing her in the morning

1:09:53

by the end of the day,

1:09:55

her ankles were swollen, her mood

1:09:57

started to collapse, like the peaks

1:09:59

and valleys of her mood kind

1:10:01

of went away. And she was...

1:10:04

I mean, I was bringing her

1:10:06

over to the house and obviously,

1:10:08

as a biohecker, I'm trying to

1:10:10

solve everything. So I was like,

1:10:12

we got to do this vibrant

1:10:14

one, this test medicine, we got

1:10:17

to figure out what's going on.

1:10:19

And then, boom, the mold just

1:10:21

jumped off the chart. Our younger

1:10:23

starter too is suffering from recurrent

1:10:25

sore throats. And you know that

1:10:27

viruses and I mean, bacteria and

1:10:30

mold have been. mortal enemies for

1:10:32

years. I mean think penicillin and

1:10:34

bacteria, right? And so we live

1:10:36

in the mold capital of the

1:10:38

world and very often when you

1:10:40

get mold toxicity, it doesn't just,

1:10:43

it's not just a constant infection,

1:10:45

it has a latent phase, a

1:10:47

dormant phase, and then a sporulating

1:10:49

phase. And so these mold infections,

1:10:51

which a lot of doctors will

1:10:53

tell you are complete nonsense. are

1:10:56

absolutely valid. I mean, there are

1:10:58

people that right now that have

1:11:00

severe brain fog, they have joint

1:11:02

pain, they have really poor focus

1:11:04

and concentration, short-term memory issues, they've

1:11:06

got hormone imbalance, they've got water

1:11:09

retention, and they've got swollen ankles,

1:11:11

and they cannot really figure it

1:11:13

out, and they'll do a standard

1:11:15

blood test, and you don't see

1:11:17

this on a standard blood test.

1:11:19

And when you do something like

1:11:22

a vibrant, you look at these...

1:11:24

this mold toxicity get rid of

1:11:26

it in the you see the

1:11:28

entire blood panel you know comes

1:11:30

back into optimal ranges and they

1:11:33

feel amazing just like my my

1:11:35

daughter we did EBO2 we did

1:11:37

sauna we did gut binders activated

1:11:39

charcoal binders high doses glutathione and

1:11:41

over the next few weeks we

1:11:43

slowly walked you know this mold

1:11:46

right out of her her system

1:11:48

but people suffer from this all

1:11:50

the time. In fact, I've been

1:11:52

deep down the rabbit hole of

1:11:54

a lot of the foundations of

1:11:56

these autoimmune diseases because in my

1:11:59

previous clinic we had 150,000 patients

1:12:01

come through our clinic system and

1:12:03

nearly everyone that we saw that

1:12:05

had an autoimmune disease was told

1:12:07

by their doctor. You just woke

1:12:09

up one day and your immune

1:12:12

system went haywire, right? So you

1:12:14

have crones disease because one day

1:12:16

you woke up and your immune

1:12:18

system is manufacturing antibodies to your

1:12:20

colon or you have hypotheroid because

1:12:22

you woke up one morning and

1:12:25

your your immune system is manufacturing

1:12:27

antibodies to your thyroid. So now

1:12:29

you have Hashimoto's land in your

1:12:31

eye and you have chagrins or

1:12:33

your blood, you have lupus. And

1:12:35

we immediately just assumed that God

1:12:38

made a mistake that God made

1:12:40

a mistake that the immune system

1:12:42

is malfunctioning. taking a step back

1:12:44

and saying, you know, what if

1:12:46

actually the immune system is acting

1:12:48

properly? What if God didn't make

1:12:51

a mistake? What if it's attacking

1:12:53

the colon for a reason we

1:12:55

just have to figure it out?

1:12:57

And if you just eliminate it

1:12:59

four things, mold microtoxin, heavy metals,

1:13:01

viruses, and parasites, just those four

1:13:04

categories, I believe that you would

1:13:06

get to the majority of the

1:13:08

genesis of... of autoimmune diseases. Some

1:13:10

of these autopsy studies on multiple

1:13:12

sclerosis, for example, were 100% positive

1:13:14

for certain colonies of helmets. Helmens?

1:13:17

Helmens, which are parasites. And these

1:13:19

helmet colonies, or the larvae from

1:13:21

these, were actually in the myelin

1:13:23

sheath of 10 of 10 autopsies

1:13:25

that they did on multiple sclerosis

1:13:27

patients. I'm not by any way.

1:13:30

means saying that everybody that has

1:13:32

multiple sclerosis has parasitic infection. But

1:13:34

there are... healthy parasites. There's categories

1:13:36

of helmets that are very very

1:13:38

healthy and some of the underdeveloped

1:13:41

countries in the world where actually

1:13:43

they have these healthy parasites which

1:13:45

we've wiped out for the large

1:13:47

part here they don't get multiple

1:13:49

sclerosis or they have very very

1:13:51

low incidents of multiple sclerosis and

1:13:54

one of the theories is that

1:13:56

because we have We have disrupted

1:13:58

the balance of not only bacteria

1:14:00

but parasites in our guts, specifically

1:14:02

TSO parasites, which are healthy parasites,

1:14:04

that the pathogenic parasites proliferate and

1:14:07

they burrow their larvae burrow into

1:14:09

the myelin sheath and they're part

1:14:11

of the genesis of multiple sclerosis.

1:14:13

My whole point in saying that

1:14:15

is if you take any pathogen,

1:14:17

let's just take this one right

1:14:20

here. This is, it looks like

1:14:22

a Donald Trump coin. So I

1:14:24

don't know if the audience could

1:14:26

see this, but let's say this

1:14:28

was a mold spore, mycotoxin, or

1:14:30

this was a heavy metal, or

1:14:33

even a virus. And this was

1:14:35

a healthy cell. You see that

1:14:37

they don't hide like this, right?

1:14:39

Metals, mycotoxins, mold, you know, viruses,

1:14:41

even in some cases, parasites, they

1:14:43

don't hide outside of the cell

1:14:46

like this. They hide like this.

1:14:48

And inside the cell. I mean,

1:14:50

but when a virus, when the

1:14:52

nucleicaps the protein of a virus

1:14:54

attaches to a cell and injects

1:14:56

its DNA, that's the way that

1:14:59

it takes over that cell. It's

1:15:01

kind of like being bitten by

1:15:03

the zombie, right? I mean, a

1:15:05

virus is not a living thing.

1:15:07

It's an envelope that's wrapped around

1:15:09

DNA. But when that envelope attaches

1:15:12

to the cell wall, and it

1:15:14

squirts the DNA inside the DNA

1:15:16

inside, now the virus has taken

1:15:18

over the host cell, right? So

1:15:20

it's inside the cell. The immune

1:15:22

system is not after this. It's

1:15:25

not after the cell. It's after

1:15:27

this. So how does it get

1:15:29

to this? It has to kick

1:15:31

down this wall. It has to

1:15:33

break through this cell wall. And

1:15:35

very often, in order to do

1:15:38

that, it needs to manufacture an

1:15:40

unantibody to this. cell. If you

1:15:42

look for example at, you know,

1:15:44

for Hashimoto's, which a lot of

1:15:46

people have, you know, these people

1:15:49

have Hashimoto's and they're told, okay,

1:15:51

well, you woke up one day

1:15:53

and your immune system decided to

1:15:55

attack the thyroid, you know, your

1:15:57

manufacturing antibodies, your thyroid, and so,

1:15:59

well, why is it attacking my

1:16:02

thyroid? Well, we don't know. Let's

1:16:04

look at your family history. Oh,

1:16:06

your mom's sister had it. And

1:16:08

your dad's brother had it. Oh,

1:16:10

you have familial Hashimoto's. Even though

1:16:12

there is no gene for Hashimoto's,

1:16:15

so you couldn't have inherited it

1:16:17

from your ancestor, because it now

1:16:19

runs in your family, you're told

1:16:21

that you have a genetically inherited

1:16:23

disease, and now you have to

1:16:25

subscribe to a lifetime of medication.

1:16:28

Instead of taking a step back

1:16:30

and saying, well, what would have

1:16:32

called my immune system to that

1:16:34

site? Look at the incidence of

1:16:36

heavy metal toxicity of heavy metal

1:16:38

toxicity mercury in Hashimoto. and look

1:16:41

at the amount of lead and

1:16:43

mercury poisoning in Hashimoto's because the

1:16:45

thyroid has an affinity for heavy

1:16:47

metals and very often when they

1:16:49

retreat into the thyroid the immune

1:16:51

system will chase them there. And

1:16:54

look at the genesis of a

1:16:56

lot of crones disease. I mean

1:16:58

a lot of crones disease has

1:17:00

to do with the disruption of

1:17:02

the single cell layer in your

1:17:04

gut that allows bacteria and other

1:17:07

pathogenic contents that should stay inside.

1:17:09

the luminal wall of your gut,

1:17:11

they leak out and they're in

1:17:13

an area that they don't belong

1:17:15

and the immune system is attacking

1:17:17

them there. And then we want

1:17:20

to hold the immune system responsible

1:17:22

for the crime and say, hey,

1:17:24

we're going to arrest the police

1:17:26

officer for what this criminal did.

1:17:28

I mean, those contents are in

1:17:30

areas of the body where they

1:17:33

don't belong. And so... we're going

1:17:35

to put you on an immunosuppressant

1:17:37

or we're going to put you

1:17:39

on an an inflammatory and we're

1:17:41

actually going to stop the immune

1:17:43

system from protecting you instead of

1:17:46

saying what contents could be leaking

1:17:48

from my gut that are causing

1:17:50

the immune system to light up

1:17:52

and you could just keep going

1:17:54

through lots of autoimmune diseases like

1:17:56

this. you know, multiple sclerosis, a

1:17:59

lot of these conditions. But mold,

1:18:01

microtoxins, metals, parasites, I mean, if

1:18:03

I was ever told that I

1:18:05

had an autoimmune disease, I would

1:18:07

not accept it until I'd done

1:18:10

those kinds of tests. Interesting. So

1:18:12

back to the narrative of HDL

1:18:14

and LDL, how did it get

1:18:16

formed that LDL is the bad

1:18:18

cholesterol? because the majority of people

1:18:20

that had high LDL cholesterol also

1:18:23

had high other factors going on

1:18:25

in their body. And just like

1:18:27

a lot of these randomized clinical

1:18:29

trials, we look at things in

1:18:31

isolation. We study one thing in

1:18:33

isolation. One of the worst things

1:18:36

we do, in my opinion, in

1:18:38

modern science, is study... human anatomy

1:18:40

or human physiology or biochemistry in

1:18:42

isolation. So we say we're going

1:18:44

to take a cell out of

1:18:46

the body, we're going to put

1:18:49

it in a lab, we're going

1:18:51

to look how it behaves in

1:18:53

a Petri dish, and then we're

1:18:55

going to assume that when I

1:18:57

put that cell back into the

1:18:59

body it's going to behave the

1:19:02

same way. And so we didn't

1:19:04

solve for all of these other

1:19:06

factors. Well what was the person's...

1:19:08

insulin level. What was their fasting

1:19:10

glucose? What was their hemoglobin A1C?

1:19:12

What were their other inflammatory markers

1:19:15

like C-reactive protein, Cretin phosphokinease? What

1:19:17

were the other lifestyle factors that

1:19:19

were going on? And what you'll

1:19:21

find is it correlation between high

1:19:23

levels of cholesterol and people that

1:19:25

have cardiovascular disease, but not because

1:19:28

of the cholesterol, because of all

1:19:30

of the diet and lifestyle risk

1:19:32

factors that go around it. But

1:19:34

we can build a multi-billion dollar,

1:19:36

in fact a trillion dollar industry,

1:19:38

by just lowering this one biomarker.

1:19:41

And when we lower this biomarker,

1:19:43

if that biomarker were directly linked

1:19:45

to all-cause mortality, if it were

1:19:47

directly linked to the incidence of

1:19:49

cardiovascular disease, then we would see

1:19:51

in the population where we lowered

1:19:54

this biomarker, we would see an

1:19:56

extension of mortality, right? Because we

1:19:58

said this biomarker was high, LDL.

1:20:00

So if we lower it. with

1:20:02

satin. Then we're going to see

1:20:04

an extension of mortality and loan.

1:20:07

behold we see no extension of

1:20:09

mortality. So how has it continued

1:20:11

to be used? Because it's continued

1:20:13

to be marketed that way. You

1:20:15

have to understand that there's a

1:20:18

box that is called the standard

1:20:20

of care and I don't subscribe

1:20:22

to the fact that physicians are

1:20:24

trying to harm you. In fact,

1:20:26

I have the deepest respect for

1:20:28

people that are licensed to practice

1:20:31

medicine because I'm not one of

1:20:33

them. And you know, they go

1:20:35

through a schooling to learn to

1:20:37

practice within something called the standard

1:20:39

of care. If you're outside of

1:20:41

the standard of care, your malpractice

1:20:44

is at risk, your reimbursement is

1:20:46

at risk, your career is at

1:20:48

risk. So you may very well

1:20:50

be doing something that is in

1:20:52

your scope of practice, but it

1:20:54

is outside the standard of care.

1:20:57

So most physicians will migrate back

1:20:59

into the standard of care. So

1:21:01

even if you go around to

1:21:03

a bunch of alopathic doctors and

1:21:05

get multiple opinions, they'll all be

1:21:07

within this box. When you jump

1:21:10

outside of that box, you've got

1:21:12

to be talking to somebody who's

1:21:14

willing to say, okay, you probably

1:21:16

have to pay me cash. You

1:21:18

probably have, you put my malpractice

1:21:20

at risk. I don't have malpractice

1:21:23

coverage for this type of treatment.

1:21:25

Not because they're breaking the law,

1:21:27

but because they're not within the

1:21:29

standard of care. It's just like

1:21:31

when physicians and millions of scripts

1:21:33

written for. these pharmaceuticals that were

1:21:36

proven to be extraordinarily safe. I

1:21:38

mean, our doctor used to have

1:21:40

to write it for joint pain

1:21:42

during COVID. So she wouldn't potentially

1:21:44

risk her license. So what happens

1:21:46

is you develop a herd mentality

1:21:49

because the system for reimbursement, how

1:21:51

they get Someone with elevated LDL

1:21:53

cholesterol is to put them on

1:21:55

a stand. If you don't do

1:21:57

that, you could be risking your

1:21:59

life. And why is that the

1:22:02

standard of care? Because pharma dictates

1:22:04

that that's the standard of care.

1:22:06

They also dictate the reimbursement rates.

1:22:08

And so if you look at

1:22:10

the study that was done in

1:22:12

2016 by Harvard, which determined that

1:22:15

medical error was the third leading

1:22:17

cause of death, I think it

1:22:19

was repeated by Hopkins in 2019,

1:22:21

but the Harvard study in 2016

1:22:23

is very clear that the third

1:22:26

leading cause of death in America.

1:22:28

is medical error. And when you

1:22:30

look into the study for why,

1:22:32

you know, where doctors just killing

1:22:34

people, no, what happened was they

1:22:36

looked at ICD-9, ICD-10, ICD-11 codes,

1:22:39

how they're coding, you know, the

1:22:41

diagnosis of what's happened to you.

1:22:43

I have to, as a doctor,

1:22:45

I've got to sort of slot

1:22:47

you into a diagnostic code so

1:22:49

I can get reimbursed and you

1:22:52

can get medication and we can

1:22:54

all get paid. And we can

1:22:56

all get paid. But if I

1:22:58

don't have a diagnosis to slot

1:23:00

you into, I got to pick

1:23:02

sort of the next nearest one.

1:23:05

And there is no diagnosis or

1:23:07

way for me to be reimbursed

1:23:09

or to make a living if

1:23:11

I go, look Joe, your hemoglobin

1:23:13

A1C is like 5.7. Your early

1:23:15

stage pre-diabetic. You know, you've got

1:23:18

a little abdominal obesity going on.

1:23:20

Your blood pressure is creeping towards

1:23:22

the high side. Your fasting glucose

1:23:24

is really high. Let's talk about...

1:23:26

some diet and lifestyle choices. Tell

1:23:28

me what's going on in your

1:23:31

life. What's a typical day of

1:23:33

your diet look like? You know,

1:23:35

can I put you on a

1:23:37

treadmill for 25 or 30 minutes?

1:23:39

Can I talk to you about

1:23:41

intermittent fasting? You know, can I

1:23:44

talk to you about things like

1:23:46

a whole food diet? Actually, no.

1:23:48

None of that. All of that

1:23:50

is outside the standard of care.

1:23:52

If something happens to you, and

1:23:54

I haven't practiced within the standard

1:23:57

of care, I'm at risk. Bobby

1:23:59

Kennedy and His team,

1:24:01

again in my opinion, you're going

1:24:03

to see Bobby Kennedy and his

1:24:06

team which have been empowered to

1:24:08

make real change, not just getting,

1:24:10

you know, poisoned out of our

1:24:13

food supply and having the generally

1:24:15

regarded as safe guidelines look at

1:24:17

food safety before we put it

1:24:20

into the public domain. But you're

1:24:22

really going to see him go

1:24:24

after corruption in our nutritional research,

1:24:27

corruption in our... in our governmental

1:24:29

oversight bodies, you know, how is

1:24:31

it that we can have people

1:24:34

that sit in the food and

1:24:36

drug administration and regulate private industry

1:24:38

and at the end of that

1:24:41

regulatory career go in to work

1:24:43

for the same industry that they

1:24:45

purported to regulate? And sometimes for

1:24:48

10 times what they would make

1:24:50

as a regulator. Kind of kooky.

1:24:52

It seems to me like you

1:24:55

would get arrested for that in

1:24:57

another industry. Yeah. Right. I mean,

1:24:59

if you did that in the

1:25:01

securities industry, the securities industry. the

1:25:04

banking industry, you wouldn't get away

1:25:06

with it. And you know, 70,

1:25:08

north of 70%, I think the

1:25:11

number 74% of our nutritional research

1:25:13

is funded by private industry. You

1:25:15

know, we privatize the profit, but

1:25:18

we socialize the expense. And by

1:25:20

this, I mean, like, we socialize

1:25:22

through the tax subsidized medical system,

1:25:25

Medicaid, Medicare, the expenses, right. So

1:25:27

the expenses go on to the

1:25:29

taxpayer. But the payments go to

1:25:32

private industry. So we privatize the

1:25:34

profit and we socialize the risk.

1:25:36

And then the private industry that

1:25:39

benefits from this doesn't even have

1:25:41

a fiduciary to the patients that

1:25:43

they serve. They actually have a

1:25:46

fiduciary to the investor. And they

1:25:48

can go to prison for not

1:25:50

performing for their patient. So if

1:25:53

I make a pharmaceutical that goes

1:25:55

into your body, but somebody lent...

1:25:57

you know invested in my company

1:26:00

to make that pharmaceutical my responsibilities

1:26:02

to them not you. So now

1:26:04

you get harmed, you get harmed,

1:26:07

I'm held harmless. But if I

1:26:09

harm him by not selling it

1:26:11

to you for the right margin,

1:26:14

he gets to put me in

1:26:16

prison. I mean, it's mine. It's

1:26:18

so as backwards and it's such

1:26:20

an uphill sludge. I mean, what

1:26:23

the current administration has to do,

1:26:25

what Bobby Kennedy has to do,

1:26:27

is sort of re- Restructure decades

1:26:30

and decades of what's essentially corruption.

1:26:32

Yeah, and there's a there's a

1:26:34

lot of people fighting them on

1:26:37

it man. Wow, I could only

1:26:39

imagine because the amount of profit

1:26:41

you know when you're talking about

1:26:44

these industries The the amount of

1:26:46

money they generate is astronomical and

1:26:48

they're responsible for So much of

1:26:51

the advertising revenue of mainstream media

1:26:53

that mainstream media not only will

1:26:55

not cover the negative aspects of

1:26:58

their drugs But will heavily criticize

1:27:00

anyone who tries to go outside

1:27:02

the narrative Very true. I mean,

1:27:05

you know, look at this, you

1:27:07

know, this strong kids commission You

1:27:09

know, it's the idea is go

1:27:12

to schools, put physical education back

1:27:14

into schools, get highly processed foods

1:27:16

out of the schools, and actually

1:27:19

not do fat chain kids, but

1:27:21

to pro-body morphic. Encourage them like

1:27:23

yes, it's okay to not want

1:27:26

to be sloppy and out of

1:27:28

shape and to call that out

1:27:30

and to actually be physically physically

1:27:32

fit and healthy It's not that

1:27:35

you have to be there to

1:27:37

be sick to gain status But

1:27:39

it's okay to not want to

1:27:42

be fat. Well, there's also there's

1:27:44

the real look I don't think

1:27:46

you should shame people I don't

1:27:49

agree to them. However if someone

1:27:51

pulls you aside and says hey

1:27:53

Bobby You're overweight and it's fucking

1:27:56

up your health and you know,

1:27:58

it's it's really bad for you.

1:28:00

If that makes you feel bad

1:28:02

and that feeling bad inspires a

1:28:05

change in your lifestyle, in your

1:28:07

diet, in exercise routines and

1:28:09

what you do, that's positive and

1:28:11

sometimes you have to feel bad.

1:28:14

Like someone has to give you an

1:28:16

F for you to realize, oh my

1:28:18

God, I'm going to fail on this

1:28:20

class unless I study harder. Yeah. Like

1:28:23

that's part of life and you

1:28:25

can't just coddle people and it

1:28:27

expects success That's not how it

1:28:29

works. I totally agree. It's one

1:28:31

of the most important aspects of

1:28:33

athletics Because athletics are a very

1:28:36

clear It's a very clear formula

1:28:38

that the more work you put

1:28:40

in the harder you train the

1:28:42

more results you'll get as long

1:28:44

as you're not over training, you

1:28:46

know, you do correctly if you

1:28:48

put in the effort. Yeah you work

1:28:51

hard, you will get results.

1:28:53

And that's, that's, it's

1:28:55

a vehicle for the rest

1:28:58

of your life. If you

1:29:00

can learn that at a

1:29:02

young age, I think athletics

1:29:04

are so important for young

1:29:07

people, if you can learn

1:29:09

that at an early age,

1:29:11

that the discomfort is necessary

1:29:13

for growth, like being tired,

1:29:15

pushing yourself, and grow, and

1:29:18

become stronger. is a part

1:29:20

of this process and it's

1:29:22

beneficial and through doing that

1:29:24

you will actually feel better.

1:29:26

It is actually a medicine. If you

1:29:29

could get the way... If you get

1:29:31

the way I feel... After I have

1:29:33

a heart, if I coal plunge,

1:29:35

have a hard workout, get in

1:29:37

the sauna, stretch out, and then

1:29:39

go about my day. If you

1:29:42

could put that in a pill,

1:29:44

people are like, oh my god,

1:29:46

my new anti anxiety medication is

1:29:48

so incredible. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

1:29:50

take it every day. It's so

1:29:52

incredible. I'm so happy that I

1:29:54

went to this doctor because he

1:29:56

put me on the right stuff.

1:29:58

But getting people. to feel discomfort

1:30:01

voluntarily is so difficult when

1:30:03

people have this sedentary lifestyle

1:30:05

and this lazy mind and

1:30:07

this entitlement that so many

1:30:10

people have where they feel

1:30:12

like the world owes them

1:30:14

something. Yeah. Instead of, I've

1:30:16

owe myself, I've got to

1:30:19

work for myself, I've got

1:30:21

to put off these feelings,

1:30:23

I've got to delay these

1:30:25

feelings of... you know, relaxation

1:30:27

and comfort and delay it

1:30:30

and give myself some voluntary

1:30:32

discomfort so that it can

1:30:34

feel true peace. Yeah, I

1:30:36

actually trademarked the statement. Aging

1:30:39

is the aggressive pursuit of

1:30:41

comfort. By the way, if you

1:30:43

want to use that, just use it.

1:30:45

I won't sue you. But well, also,

1:30:48

aging is the aggressive pursuit of comfort.

1:30:50

And if you think about that for

1:30:52

a minute. It truly is. The more

1:30:55

aggressively we see comfort, the faster we

1:30:57

age. It's like, we really got to

1:30:59

stop telling grandma not to go outside

1:31:02

is too hot, not to go outside

1:31:04

is too cold. It's not even really

1:31:06

aging, right? It's deterioration. It's deterioration. It's

1:31:08

deterioration. Yeah, you're going to add, your

1:31:11

muscles will atrophy, your bone density

1:31:13

will decrease, your ligaments and

1:31:15

your ligaments not sucked. Every

1:31:17