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Floyd. Welcome
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With the unherited but
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talented Jordan Wellwood. Untalented
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but inherited? that what he said? I'm
2:17
trying to do some forward speech. Kamara,
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you want to go over the
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guest list so we can do what
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we fucking do? I'd love to. I
2:26
think we all had a matrix moment
2:28
because 2274, Mike Baker in the house
2:31
to straighten everything out. It's a big
2:33
fucking surprise. Balled by 2275 Magnus Carlson. Who
2:36
invented chess? That's what I still am
2:38
wondering. 2276,
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Philippe Asparaza and 2277
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Woody Harrelson's in the
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house finally after all
2:47
these years. God,
2:49
this week. Stunk. You
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know, when you told me when when you texted me
2:54
Saturday and said Woody Harrelson, I was like, oh, incredible. Was
2:57
not literally might be the
2:59
worst week in the history
3:01
of the Joe Rogan podcast.
3:03
And we've had weeks where
3:05
it was like Hunter fucking
3:07
fitness. And yet somehow a
3:09
week with Woody Harrelson has ended
3:11
up just fucking bottoming the charts. Yeah,
3:14
felt like if you just read
3:16
the names out like it wouldn't. It's
3:18
not like the worst, you know.
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Well, if you think Magnus Carlson is
3:22
like a Viking or something, you
3:24
know what I mean? You didn't know
3:26
the greatest chess player in the
3:28
world. That sounds interesting. The most interesting
3:30
thing about that guy was the
3:32
one thing he refused to talk about.
3:34
Yeah, yeah, the only thing that
3:37
made him interesting. I agree. But
3:41
again, on paper, I
3:43
mean, Simon, at least give Joe credit
3:45
that at least in that episode, he
3:47
brought up the thing right away as
3:49
opposed to just not talking about it. Period.
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Yeah. OK. Fair enough. Right. Like four minutes in,
3:53
he was like, what happened with the guy
3:55
with the butt plug and Magnus was like, I
3:57
don't know, that was a fucking. in
4:00
your net chat rooms. But I can't talk about
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it. You'll have to buy the book. Yeah, yeah, for
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you. All right, what do you rate
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it? a tough one. It's a fucking tough one.
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It's gonna get a low rating. I'll tell you that.
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I mean, it can't get
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more than a 0 .25. That's
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pretty low. That's pretty low. That's not that
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low. Really, you give it a 0 .25? Do
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we rate this on like, in terms
4:23
of my enjoyment of the week? Is that
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what I'm doing? No, that's what amateur
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does. No, I'm pretty
4:30
sure that is the scale. That's what I
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do get. It's based on much did I
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enjoy listening to this week? Then
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I'm going negative 0 .25. Wow.
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Yeah, I have to give this week a one.
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Really didn't enjoy listening this week. can't
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wait for this. Kamar, are
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you gonna rate it? Yeah, I'll give it a one. There
4:50
you go. That's what I expected. That's
4:52
about right. This week was really
4:54
bad. No, just respect to
4:56
Joe. No, no. just the whole disrespect
4:58
to Joe. sure. Well, we'll get to
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that, I guess, yeah. Pretty
5:02
glaring, yeah, sure. All
5:05
right, Kamar, fire it up. 2277,
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Woody Harrelson, actor,
5:09
playwright, activist. So,
5:11
you can just start. Just start. Just
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go. I know you want to go.
5:16
Cook. Well, I'm trying to like, change
5:18
my life and just live by love.
5:20
You know what I mean? How's that
5:22
going? Well, when you have fucking
5:24
podcasts like this, it makes it really
5:26
hard. Like, all I want to do
5:28
is say nice things about Woody Harrelson.
5:31
But I can't because they
5:33
never spoke about anything, even
5:36
remotely Woody Harrelson. So
5:39
can I ask you this, if they had spoken
5:41
about like his career, but not mentioned the JFK
5:43
stuff? Like if he, just hear me out. If
5:45
he had come on and been like, hey, listen,
5:47
I know you talk a lot about this. It's
5:49
kind of something I don't like to bring up.
5:51
You know what I mean? Like a Bill Burr.
5:53
Did Ted Danza really wear a toupee on Cheers?
5:55
There were unanswered questions that we could have got
5:57
to the bottom of. Natural. killers
6:00
the guy has done a true detective
6:02
like he's done some great fucking
6:04
work zombie land need I say more
6:06
indecent proposal he was the indeed
6:08
the guy who indecent proposal no that
6:10
was Robert Redford oh he was
6:12
the husband to me he was the
6:15
cock what about white man can't
6:17
jump oh what am i favorite incredible
6:19
you're being facetious but that was
6:21
one of my favorite movies growing up
6:23
vegetables that begin with the letter
6:25
q what makes me no liar that's
6:27
right she's on jeopardy i saw
6:29
the fucking movie what makes me no
6:32
liar is i did enjoy money
6:34
train which many people think was a
6:36
really bad money train i'm not
6:38
the one with Brad Pitt Wesley Snipes
6:40
what is money train i
6:44
don't think you've ever watched it i
6:46
think this is bit he did another
6:48
movie with Wesley train flips in the
6:50
station and yeah he yeah what's this
6:52
types and what he does it again
6:54
and it didn't it didn't they were
6:56
like the Jackie Chan and um he
6:58
described an action movie Chris Tucker he
7:00
described an action movie trope that's been
7:02
in 50 movies and then it's like
7:04
you know the movie he said he
7:06
said the the subway train turns over
7:08
on its side in the fight and
7:10
rolls through the station yeah okay he
7:13
said i love this movie and i
7:15
said oh really what's it about and
7:17
he's looked at me like i was
7:19
insane you know it's funny too typing
7:21
away on his computer what's really crazy
7:23
it's called money train you couldn't have
7:25
put some together you fucking 1995 action
7:27
comedy film starring Wesley Snipes Woody Harrelson
7:29
and Jennifer Lopez directed by Joseph Rubin
7:31
feels like this would have been a
7:33
good money it's about a train that
7:35
you know the movie follows two foster
7:37
brothers John Snipes and Charlie Harrelson who
7:39
work as transit cops in New York
7:41
City there we are struggling with gambling
7:43
debts hatches a risky plan to rob
7:45
the money train the heavily guarded subway
7:47
train i do remember i do remember
7:49
it all yes yes yes yes and
7:51
they were brothers and you're like you're
7:53
clearly not from the same mom and
7:55
it's just white man jumped but in
7:57
New York City this is with zero
7:59
Yeah, yeah, but all that being said,
8:01
this one's called white man can't get
8:03
him old Can't ride
8:05
trains Woody Harrelson 63 years old
8:07
looking good for himself. He's only
8:10
63 only 63 Okay, well, I'm
8:12
just thinking to myself like we're
8:14
I'm watching cheers as like a
8:16
13 year old boy And he's
8:18
already 63
8:20
make sense. I'm that makes math adds
8:22
up. Yeah. Yeah, my math isn't
8:24
good The worst is when the math
8:26
adds up to they were actually
8:28
the same age as you That's
8:32
a real problem. Yeah stop when
8:34
you were calling them geezers and you're
8:36
like whoa hold on a sec
8:38
That's me now like when they're like
8:40
LeBron James about to be 40.
8:42
I'm like that motherfucker was doing this
8:44
when I was damn Well, you're
8:46
having a baby. Yeah, and my youngest
8:48
is turning 22. Yeah, so what
8:50
does that even mean? What does that
8:52
even mean? It means
8:54
I'm old and your turn in the
8:56
corner gonna be old Yeah, I listened to
8:58
this episode a little bit sped up
9:01
because of Woody has a weird draw But
9:04
me and Simon were commenting that
9:06
it's hard to believe that the this
9:08
guy can snap into any of
9:10
the roles That we just listed off
9:12
of the movies. Yeah, it has
9:14
been to what a great actor he
9:16
is You like to
9:19
lie. What do you like
9:21
themselves? No, and don't don't
9:23
forget the one with the
9:25
Javier Bardem Oh, yeah, he
9:27
was in no country for old men
9:29
He's his role is his role is
9:31
so good that I almost wanted like
9:33
a whole other movie He's a very
9:35
small character. I know but he's very
9:37
good. Yeah, so amazing the cowboy Yeah,
9:39
Chad GPT and you're on your way,
9:41
but when when he did some specific
9:43
impressions of Presidents
9:45
and namely Jimmy Carter and Nixon
9:47
you saw him just dial in so
9:49
I mean that was the only performative thing
9:51
We saw he's got a movie that
9:54
comes out on February 28th. It Joe's like
9:56
your people made me watch that was
9:58
that was crazy Crazy.
10:00
Lied to me. Joe must have
10:02
really wanted him on the show because
10:04
Joe doesn't go out of his
10:06
way for anybody ever. was a prerequisite
10:08
of the interview. Also Joe makes
10:10
it sound like his life is so
10:12
difficult. Like I was forced to
10:14
go to a premiere of a film
10:16
for a movie star that wants
10:18
to be on my multi -billion dollar
10:20
podcast. He doesn't have enough time to
10:22
go to Egypt, Matt. Yeah, you're
10:24
right. I'm sorry. Now, Woody. He's
10:26
the most busy man in America.
10:28
It started off weird where Joe
10:31
was like, yeah, vaccines are poisonous
10:33
all day. And Woody was like,
10:35
whoa, whoa, whoa, no, no, no,
10:37
Joe, I'm talking about profiteering. that
10:39
is what everyone gripes about with
10:41
any of these things that at
10:43
the end day we find out
10:46
it's money. Yeah. Well,
10:48
the vaccine company's making the money
10:50
off the. Correct. Pandemic
10:52
the. And the more
10:55
money there is to made, more money
10:57
there is to be made the greasier there
10:59
seems to be people involved. And we
11:01
all get to a weird point. He mentioned
11:03
Lyme disease being a government thing. And
11:05
we had joked about not joked about it,
11:07
but we had mentioned that as like
11:09
a conspiracy theory along. But Joe was saying
11:11
it today, like it's a done fact.
11:13
Like that is how Lyme disease. Hold on.
11:15
That's how Joe talks now. No,
11:17
but I'm asking, like, is that a
11:19
that's like a fact? That's how Lyme disease
11:22
was started was through. No, I believe
11:24
I know it was started in Lyme, Connecticut.
11:26
Or Connecticut, believe it's Connecticut. I thought he
11:28
said New Jersey for some reason, or Long
11:30
Island. I thought it was Lyme, Connecticut. That's
11:32
why it's called Lyme. But an experiment that
11:34
got out of control or something went wrong. Was
11:37
it on Rogan where they were
11:39
talking about how things are named
11:41
after people? Like
11:43
Lyme disease, you know,
11:46
that's after Connecticut. don't think so, Simon.
11:50
Who are you talking to? you
11:52
mean? We had the pre -show
11:54
meeting. talked about FaceTime. It's Lyme, Connecticut.
11:56
Yeah, by the way, so it's Connecticut.
12:00
think Joe said something. Yeah, Lou Gehrig's
12:02
disease. It's not
12:04
actually called that though. It's not. No. That's
12:06
like a colloquialism. I think it's
12:08
ALS. That's pretty shitty that your claim
12:10
to fame is a colloquialism. He
12:13
doesn't even get the disease like. Well,
12:15
I mean, most people know
12:18
Lou Gehrig as a Yankee
12:20
legend. I was saying his
12:22
only claim to fame is I think
12:24
more people know him from Lou Gehrig's
12:26
disease than from the Yankees. Yeah. That's
12:28
interesting. mean, just your average person who
12:30
doesn't give a fuck about sports. Everybody
12:32
knows Lou Gehrig's disease. I
12:34
mean, listen, in your defense, like if 50 years
12:36
from now Lou Gehrig's disease is still around, then
12:38
it will have outlived anyone who you know, you're
12:41
going to be few and far between people are
12:43
going to remember Lou Gehrig the Yankee. I
12:47
didn't even know he was a Yankee, frankly.
12:49
Okay. So there you go. No, he played for Murderer's Row.
12:51
They won. They lost, what, games
12:53
that season or something I don't remember. So
12:57
they were singing the praise.
12:59
Just a sidebar for me. There's
13:02
a lot of criticism
13:04
of the glazing for Elon
13:06
from Joe. mean, no
13:08
one should glaze anyone as much
13:10
as they glaze. It's just I'm like,
13:14
I've heard Joe, I've heard Joe be
13:16
like, I would never get another man tattooed on
13:18
my body. Like, dude, said you let one come
13:20
on your back. Like, I don't get it. Sorry,
13:23
I didn't understand what you said.
13:25
You're saying that Joe's constantly glazing
13:27
you wrong, Joe. And
13:29
he's getting a lot of flak from
13:31
people or from us. Oh,
13:33
no, I left the
13:36
left left wing sphere.
13:39
Yeah, here comes a glazing. That's the
13:41
main criticism. That's my problem is that
13:43
I'm I don't like that the people
13:45
who are agreeing with me right now
13:47
are people like Elizabeth Warren. Do you
13:49
know what I mean? So like I
13:51
hold true to what I'm saying, I've
13:53
been saying it long before they were
13:55
saying it. But the fact that they're
13:57
saying it now is making me like
13:59
well hold on a sec here I
14:01
still don't like Elon but I don't
14:03
like something's amiss here's the problem here's
14:05
the problem you're okay with the okay
14:07
you're okay with it not being called
14:09
doge but them cleaning up their government
14:12
hundred P that's what you're okay with
14:14
I clean this one here's the thing
14:16
she's get to that with she's clearly
14:18
against that yeah and you know that
14:20
Elon Musk is a piece of shit
14:22
separate from yes you know that if
14:24
they put some fucking bookworm in charge
14:26
of this who really was not a
14:28
part of the system who didn't give
14:30
a shit the same way Elon does
14:32
but no one knew him you believe
14:34
that could get done the same a
14:36
hundred percent I just at the same
14:38
time hate that she's like the one
14:40
who's on my side you know be
14:42
on a different side she's just saying
14:44
it because she doesn't want him to
14:46
buck the go against Vance you know
14:48
have your own fucking thoughts well here's
14:50
the thing this is how I feel
14:52
I'm like I agree with them and
14:54
if I'm an American and I find
14:56
out that you're wasting seven trillion dollars
14:59
of year a year of my tax
15:01
money and Flint doesn't have clean water
15:03
I'd be fucking live it of course
15:05
I want to know that yeah I
15:07
want it to be cleaned up I
15:09
don't want Elon Musk involved yeah you
15:11
shouldn't have any clearance we said this
15:13
last week I don't need to rehash
15:15
go ahead with the pushback to that
15:17
is just who was running the president
15:19
the country the last four years I
15:21
don't understand how that's the pushback for
15:23
four years someone else is running the
15:25
country doing sing oh so it's okay
15:27
that Elon is none of it's okay
15:29
but it's it's the hypocrisy but but
15:31
back to RFK back to RFK how
15:33
about this in just in closing I
15:35
miss when I didn't know the shady
15:37
billionaire pulling the strings of the president
15:39
mm -hmm how about that mm -hmm we
15:41
were eating steak and we were happy
15:44
there you go now now we see
15:46
now now they're standing directly behind the
15:48
desk in the shot your son is
15:50
telling the president of United States to
15:52
shut the fuck up you're not the
15:54
president Elon shaves a bit of flesh
15:56
off his But
16:00
back to RFK. he's on the clock now. Yeah.
16:02
Because we heard him on the show.
16:04
If I had this shot and, you
16:06
know, in the beginning, it's like no
16:08
one's ever going to vote this guy
16:11
in. And as Joe said, why can't
16:13
they fix his voice? Which is an
16:15
honest statement or have a some sort
16:17
of voice box. Maybe he doesn't want
16:19
to it. You think the voice box
16:21
is better? In 2025? No, no, no,
16:23
it makes it normal. It's like the
16:25
opposite of a voice box. Stephen
16:29
Hawking? does Kanye use
16:31
or whatever? Auto -tune. It
16:33
just. That's hilarious. Dude, that'd
16:35
be hilarious. would be. No more
16:37
SSRIs. We're doing things. That's
16:41
a funny skit. Then he gets that and
16:43
he puts it on the wrong one. It's
16:46
just he's not the hype bitch yet.
16:48
But he's. I think nothing's going to
16:50
happen with him. I don't think
16:52
he's going to revolutionize anything. Maybe he'll get Red
16:54
Die Out or something like that. Some sort of
16:56
notable thing. Well, that would be a win. That'd
16:58
be a win. But like, do you know who
17:00
you're placed? Some out
17:02
of shape transvestite, I suppose.
17:04
a trans person, my apologies. It
17:07
seems like there's a cabinet position that doesn't really have
17:09
that much. I think he's
17:11
there to do the cuts. He
17:13
can do, but we'll see. It's funny watching the
17:15
left freak out about him because they're like, this
17:17
is the guy you want being your health minister.
17:19
And I'm like, I'm like, I'm pretty sure you
17:22
can go back like eight health ministers and they're
17:24
all out of shape, disgusting pigs. You can go
17:26
to other countries, health ministers and they're all fat
17:28
out of shape pigs. Like, at least this guy's
17:30
doing push -ups and jeans on Dick Talk. And
17:32
the other thing is, I think all these people
17:34
at the end day are just spokespeople. They
17:37
really aren't doing a lot. You know,
17:39
they're told what to do and they do
17:41
it. You don't think RFK is, you
17:43
think he's a spokesperson? For Donald
17:45
Trump. How
17:47
so? They're elaborate. There
17:50
are other people that work in his agency
17:52
that probably know a lot more than he
17:54
does about the agency. Or maybe not if
17:56
they all got fired by accident. But
17:58
they're, they're, it be. by accident. There's
18:00
no by accident. They did it on purpose.
18:02
you know, it can be by accident
18:04
when you're just blank at firing. When you're
18:06
looking at these people, just refer to
18:08
Veep. Yes. Yeah. I
18:11
get what he gives, uh, Joe,
18:13
some weed. I'd love to try
18:15
some woody weed. I would love,
18:17
I would, I would do anything
18:20
to part with woody. Oh,
18:22
that's a good question. Who's like your number?
18:24
you could smoke weed with anyone in history, who
18:26
would it be? Well,
18:28
less so now that woody, I had this time
18:30
with woody because I sure I smoked a
18:32
joint while I was listening. Sort
18:34
of off the bucket list. But,
18:37
um, Justin
18:39
Trudeau. Shut the fuck you know, I want to
18:42
know, like I just, know what he's like on the
18:44
way out. What do you want to know? What
18:46
would you ask him just out of the total douche
18:48
bag or is he a cool guy? Well,
18:50
you obviously don't think he's a cool guy, but
18:52
we don't know anything about anyone until we meet
18:54
them. I mean, I think we can categorically say
18:56
that Justin Trudeau is not a cool guy. Well,
19:00
yeah, you're willing to take your one
19:02
person need in all of history. Yeah, he
19:04
could have said Jesus, Genghis Khan alive,
19:06
alive, alive. Well, still even alive. There are
19:09
some amazing people that you want to
19:11
waste it to see if Justin Trudeau is
19:13
a cool dude. I don't know. Angle
19:15
of Merkel, like I think she'd be fun
19:17
to get high with like what are
19:19
you talking about? Like there's no fucking way.
19:21
Well, then it would be my real
19:23
dad. Oh, that's such a depressing
19:25
answer. Fuck. Okay, you ruin the
19:28
game. Yeah. Really? really shoves it right
19:30
up her ass. get it.
19:32
You don't want to play. It's fine. I
19:34
would go meet my one of my
19:36
relatives murdered in the Holocaust. How about that?
19:38
on. Just trump your dad. If
19:42
I wasn't so lazy, I'd take a bow
19:44
and I'd go smoke a joint with one
19:46
of my relatives that killed Simon's family. And
19:49
the worst part is Simon has to
19:51
smoke the joint through the fence. Oh
19:53
my God. Oh my God. Oh, sorry.
19:55
Too far. Too far. far. I can
19:57
say that you can't. space
20:00
um so the guy told us
20:02
he wanted to do semi blackface today
20:04
i want to put down a
20:06
white base but then have fucking stripes
20:08
is that okay no i said
20:10
lace i know so okay i got
20:12
you oh no we got it
20:15
and then you pair the black it's
20:17
like a bank see thing no
20:19
it's like fan of the opera what
20:21
are you talking about bank see
20:23
yeah i guess it's you don't know
20:25
have you seen fan of the
20:27
opera no you don't know this come
20:30
on it's cool thank you man
20:32
yeah um civilization resets civilization resets yeah
20:34
did you know between 1300 and
20:36
1850 there was like a deep freeze
20:38
on the planet i did not
20:40
know very hard time there was one
20:42
there were summers but no it
20:44
was a very hard time no but
20:47
the 1850s like the wars they
20:49
came out of it and and we
20:51
really started thriving after this deep
20:53
freeze for about 300 years just as
20:55
far as there was a 300
20:57
year deep freeze not deep freeze but
20:59
it just was cold it was
21:02
just cold and crops weren't as good
21:04
he started this thing so quick
21:06
it was a deep freeze for 300
21:08
years so i'm gonna could you
21:10
look it up from a deep freeze
21:12
i'm going to what year was
21:14
it come on between 1300 and 1850
21:16
but here that's 500 years as
21:19
the news is about doom and gloom
21:21
and luckily now we have i
21:23
don't know if you heard but there's
21:25
a meteor coming yeah but what
21:27
if they they knew 40 years till
21:29
the resets coming we
21:31
get that far ahead it joe
21:33
suggests there could have been three
21:36
already like full civilization podcast about
21:38
it then the holding blows up
21:40
start some scratch again grows and
21:42
if they knew would that be
21:44
motivation like we say look at
21:46
the he knows it's true we're
21:48
like why didn't i know about
21:50
this it would just make life
21:52
a lot harder psychedelics everyone should
21:54
do psychedelics to leave some
21:56
mushrooms some mushroom just to say
21:58
it's not good or good Uh,
22:00
Nixon's fault. Yeah. I
22:02
can't see anything like that, but
22:04
I do see articles that
22:06
are talking about a 1300 year
22:08
deep freeze, which was the
22:11
younger dry as you know, but
22:13
that happened 13 ,000 years ago.
22:15
Okay. Well, that's way back
22:17
on, um, we'll be right back.
22:19
The media is dying as, uh,
22:22
Angie Schultz foretold, just maybe
22:24
not as fast. He said Netflix
22:26
was dying. Yeah. You're, you're,
22:28
you're inflating things. Well, maybe Netflix
22:30
is next on the job.
22:32
Netflix is killing it. They're charging
22:34
me more. They're giving me
22:37
less. They're fucking maximizing. Everything does
22:39
that before it crashes. But
22:42
okay. So if, if
22:44
they get these $5 ,000
22:46
checks out and the economy
22:48
is going well and
22:50
it's good, then, uh,
22:53
but that's fake. Well, no, but you
22:55
see what I'm saying, right? If
22:57
you, if you, if you find $1
22:59
.7 trillion and then just dump it
23:01
into the economy, it's not real.
23:03
Like, no, no, no, that's going to
23:05
create, that's going to create, of
23:07
course, but it doesn't matter. The people
23:09
who don't have money will see
23:11
it as, wow, Donald Trump went in
23:13
there, cleaned up a bunch of
23:15
stuff, found a bunch of money that
23:18
doesn't go, I need to go
23:20
anywhere and gave it back to us.
23:22
Even though it has, we understand
23:24
it's money owed and they'd be borrowing
23:26
that money from the money though,
23:28
but to the everyday American, it would
23:30
seem like, wow. I think it
23:32
seems like, wow, like Matt
23:34
said, until you blow through that
23:36
on fixing a car that you
23:38
fuck up by driving through the
23:40
parking brake or something, you know
23:43
what I mean? And then it's
23:45
gone. And then you've already forgotten
23:47
by the next election that that
23:49
guy gave you $5 ,000 because you're
23:51
$50 ,000 in debt and that
23:53
$5 ,000 didn't make a goddamn lick
23:55
of a difference. Well, what everyone
23:57
is saying is that whatever the
23:59
state. of the economy in America
24:01
is, we'll talk about it again,
24:04
Mike Baker is at the midterms
24:06
will be the things are good.
24:08
What are the midterms exactly? They
24:10
have elections that are not to do with the
24:12
president and Congress and
24:15
Senate will know. Yeah, like I
24:17
think governors, Senate seats,
24:19
House of Representatives, that sort of
24:21
thing. So what Trump just
24:23
won everything of. Yeah. They
24:25
have another vote in. Two
24:27
years. The houses. Is it
24:29
halfway through midterms? Yeah,
24:31
midterm. What
24:35
could happen is the economy could be
24:37
really bad and the Democrats will win a
24:39
lot more seats in the midterms and they'll
24:41
just freeze everything. Right. But by giving everybody
24:43
five thousand dollars, that kind of buys your
24:45
way. Matt said, he saw it on Reddit.
24:47
I've seen it been said it's been
24:49
floated. Wait till happens. I thought it was
24:51
bullshit. I just thought it was rhetoric to
24:53
like make you hate Elon Musk. Because and
24:56
the only reason I say that is because
24:58
like if your whole thing was I want
25:00
Donald Trump to go and clean up
25:02
the government so that we're not so in
25:04
debt, then I don't think it's smart to
25:06
find two trillion dollars and divvy it out
25:08
to everyone. I think the smarter thing to
25:10
do is pay down the thirty one trillion
25:12
and that's what a lot of people
25:14
were pushing back against that. Yeah, or especially
25:16
like you said, you and I know that
25:18
the argument is you have to give it
25:21
to every American, but like you there's some
25:23
Americans aren't even going to know and that'll
25:25
be the angle. Why you give me
25:27
the money I don't even want the guy
25:29
one of the guys I saw who actually
25:31
it was his brainchild was saying, we're taking
25:33
the money that you guys sent to Ukraine
25:36
and we're sending it to you,
25:38
which we've always said. But again, there's
25:40
the debt. So you know that
25:42
the government in the room. I'm sorry.
25:44
Do you know you know that
25:46
the government bailed Elon out for like
25:49
the tune of like seven billion
25:51
dollars or something that Elon is singlehandedly
25:53
the biggest recipient of government grants
25:55
than anybody else in America. Too big
25:57
to fail. First of
25:59
all, that's a. huge conflict of
26:01
interest, but how with a clean
26:03
fucking conscience and a straight face,
26:05
do you get up in front
26:07
of us or them claiming about
26:09
going in doge and this and
26:11
that and you're the guy who's
26:13
taking all the fucking money, Matt,
26:15
to get to fucking Mars, like
26:18
not something that's going to help
26:20
anybody. I'm sure
26:22
it's defense contracts. I'm sure it's I'm
26:24
sure they're labeling it said it. Well,
26:26
no, he's definitely sending rockets somewhere. So
26:28
unless those are going up there to
26:30
put up military satellites, which they very
26:32
well might be saying you didn't believe
26:35
NASA forever. And now you might fall
26:37
for the same ploy again. What
26:39
do you mean? I'm just saying
26:41
if you land a few rock, if you catch
26:43
a few rockets, then you're like, Oh, yeah, how
26:45
much did they give them? Oh, six billion. Yeah,
26:47
that makes sense. He's sending rockets to Mars. in
26:49
reality, all they did was, I mean, you
26:51
don't even know if that shit's real. I'm sure
26:53
it is. I'm not saying I think it's
26:55
doctored. But what I'm just saying is like, just
26:57
like the moon landing, you've seen video of
26:59
that you didn't see it with your own fucking
27:01
eyes. It could easily be doctored. I mean,
27:03
it probably was. It probably wasn't. I know I've
27:05
seen plenty of people that are like the
27:08
moon landing, not the moon landing. I'm talking about
27:10
Elon's rocket. Yeah, I have no idea. I
27:12
mean, I've seen people sitting there watching it. So
27:15
we're sure I'm just saying I assume in
27:17
this day and age, I assume there
27:19
were people eyeball witnesses that are alive right
27:21
now. catching is happening on earth, right?
27:23
Yeah. Yeah. But my point again is, of
27:25
course, you catch a few on earth,
27:27
you have eyeball witnesses that say I saw
27:29
it. So that again, it gives you
27:31
more clout to be like, oh, we gave
27:33
Elon $50 billion to for Mars calling
27:35
it. And in reality, he's like, it's a
27:37
defense contract. I'm making them satellites, like
27:39
you said. That would be hilarious. If Doge
27:41
finally comes around to dealing with SpaceX and
27:43
finds out they're wasting all the money.
27:45
It's it's crazy. Sorry. Just one thing. I
27:47
don't even want to give this guy the time of
27:49
day. This isn't Elon. This is just space. In
27:52
that show, I was telling you about the one that
27:54
you told me the watch and then I told you to
27:56
watch. mankind. Yeah. For all mankind. It's
27:58
really interesting when they're up in space
28:00
like they're around the moon and they
28:02
have this one tiny opportunity to land
28:05
and if they miss it for whatever
28:07
reason yeah you get slung shot around
28:09
you go back to earth like that's
28:11
your chance like so many things have
28:13
to go right you know what i
28:15
mean and they all go right on
28:17
that for it come on it's just
28:19
it doesn't make any sense in a
28:21
sardine can dude you guys have already
28:24
convinced me you know mean i don't
28:26
need to be reconvinced no it just
28:28
it's just insane do you guys uh
28:30
know that mike white is a guy
28:32
that created white lotus yeah the guy
28:34
from survivor yeah did you know that
28:36
yeah so he was a he was
28:38
a hollywood guy that went on survivor
28:41
he did school of rock with jack black
28:43
he was on survivor yeah and then
28:45
he was a celebrity one no he was
28:47
a regular content they have i mean
28:49
they always bring on like a basketball player
28:51
right so mike white but he was
28:53
a celebrity on the show i think i
28:55
think it was his name he had
28:57
a different name mr mr schneebly is what
28:59
they called him because he was that
29:01
on school of rock and shoot sleep yeah
29:03
yeah but he he told them all
29:05
he told them all i like how you
29:07
gave him the right name and he
29:09
still said they're wrong um so we do
29:11
it baby no yeah he was he
29:13
even uh white lotus season one has i
29:15
think one or two people from survivor
29:17
that were not oh no way yeah yeah
29:19
they um are you watching the new
29:21
white lotus well there's only been one episode
29:23
but yeah you watched the problem with
29:25
white lotus is because it's one of those
29:27
new seat they have to release it
29:29
all at once whenever you do one of
29:31
these not a continuous story ones i
29:34
think they're better off binged because just
29:36
get to where we've been for years
29:38
there simon well it's just it's too it's
29:40
the build -up's too slow because you're reintroducing
29:42
all these new characters and a new
29:44
well that's the problem of all these shows
29:46
is like you might not get to
29:49
they're meant as like a one thing story
29:51
they're not meant to be broken i
29:53
think he's wait i can't i yeah i
29:55
mean listen i always watch every episode
29:57
weekly and then when it's done i and
29:59
rewatch it all as one. I
30:02
just don't have that. I don't have the
30:04
willpower you do to wait 15 weeks or 12
30:06
weeks. weird moment me and Simon also talked
30:08
about this prior at the baby shower. Oh yeah,
30:11
congratulations. That was
30:13
very demeaning. Woody lives
30:15
in Austin. Yeah,
30:17
they had like no idea. Joe's
30:19
chagrin. Joe really wanted him
30:21
to live in LA because he asked him like
30:23
three times. What's really great though is Woody said
30:25
right off the rip like, I live in Austin.
30:27
Like I came from just and Joe
30:30
didn't catch that at all. And then later on again,
30:32
he was like, yeah, you live in LA, right? And
30:34
he's like, he's like, motherfucker, I told you three times
30:36
already. No, I live in Austin.
30:39
Because we're neighbors in the neighborhood. live
30:41
across the street from you every
30:43
year. But what I said to Simon
30:45
is Joe is just a human
30:47
movie star. You've got the French
30:49
Riviera home. You got this, which where are you
30:51
at right now? Yeah, he lives in Austin right
30:53
now, obviously. You know that theater you were trying
30:55
to buy? I was selling it. also
30:59
actually kind of shows you the arrogance
31:01
of Joe in a way where he feels
31:03
like before he moved there, no one
31:05
of value was in Austin. was just like
31:07
a, it was like, you know, Vegas
31:09
before any of the gangsters got there. always
31:11
had a really cool cache for me
31:13
because Austin said limits, not knowing ever what
31:15
that meant. South by Southwest,
31:17
there's a CIA. The Austin
31:19
Comedy Festival, like that a lot.
31:21
CIA. South by Southwest, there's something
31:23
sketchy about that. There might be my point
31:26
USAID. don't know, get to that. My point remains,
31:28
Joe is like, I moved here four years
31:30
ago. Before I got here, there was no one.
31:32
And what he's like, do I've been here?
31:34
We've been here, yeah. Yeah, he's like, no, no,
31:36
no, no, no. You live in LA. Again,
31:38
this is the American thing. term
31:41
reinvent oneself and other things
31:43
that other have done is
31:45
not frowned upon. Yeah,
31:48
you just move somewhere else and you start
31:50
making up shit about yourself because nobody knows
31:53
you. But stuff still managed to go on
31:55
where you come from and whatnot. Like LA
31:57
is still fine. We just don't hear about
31:59
it because. No one's at those. Well, it
32:01
was on fire. It had a problem. quarters
32:03
of it burnt to the ground. Sorry, the
32:05
comedy stories. Yeah, right. Right, right.
32:07
I hear you. Which is
32:09
probably true, right? Like I assume
32:11
the comedy story is doing fine. Yes.
32:14
I would. I don't. It was actually
32:16
probably the biggest blessing for everyone in
32:18
LA because they could now get... Smart
32:20
spots. ...stage time. Yeah, not taken up
32:22
by, you know... Great point. ...the 10
32:24
best comedians on earth. Yeah. Great point
32:27
in the podcast where I think really
32:29
Joe missed an opportunity, whereas Woody says,
32:31
I don't care if you shoot up
32:33
right now, Joe said that
32:35
was the only thing holding me back.
32:38
But that means that if you went
32:40
to party with Woody Harrelson, you
32:42
want to go, oh, I'm out. He
32:44
would have everything. be no
32:46
reason to go out and get anything
32:48
for assume he'd be like the heroin
32:50
spoons have a place over there, the
32:52
decorative heroin spoons. Kamara said he has
32:54
all the drugs at home. Everything. believe,
32:56
yeah. Cookie jars. know how you have
32:58
cookies? He's Matthew McConaughey.
33:00
In case Matthew McConaughey comes over.
33:02
so that's what you're robbed
33:04
of, maybe, and maybe
33:06
we never know what they talk
33:09
about, but wild party stories, this
33:12
and that, the other. I
33:14
feel like McConaughey is probably
33:16
a T. Totler. No,
33:18
he drinks. I know he does. I've seen
33:20
him on like Burton. Oh, really? Yeah, he
33:22
drinks, yeah. I think they're probably good friends
33:24
because they are good friends. You think? Thank
33:26
God that Woody waited until the very last
33:28
minute to be like, I eat just a
33:30
raw diet. Yes. Vegetables uncooked.
33:33
Yeah. I was like, oh, this could
33:35
be ugly. Joe's like, I only eat
33:37
cooked meat on an open fire like
33:39
a man. I cook it naked and
33:41
I get a very cold bath. It
33:43
is funny how he'll be like, yeah,
33:45
I don't fuck with vegetables ever. Yeah.
33:47
Maybe a couple of jalapenos. proud of
33:49
it. Like I don't. It's
33:52
like people that hate vegans. I don't understand.
33:54
doesn't affect you. Well, no, my point
33:56
is, I guess that like, look, I eating
33:58
all meat is probably. a good thing,
34:00
but I imagine that vegetables
34:02
are doing you a lot of harm.
34:04
You know, you were the vegetables are
34:06
trying to kill you guys. are actually
34:08
trying to kill you. But by eating
34:10
a carrot, I like, I don't think
34:12
you're doing your body. disservice. picking up
34:14
what you're putting down. Yeah. They are
34:16
trying to kill you. Every vegetable on
34:19
the low, low. They just
34:21
aren't very good at slow slow. Yeah. On
34:23
the low, low and the slow, slow. Come
34:26
on, can we be done with Woody?
34:28
That was my big analysis. That was the
34:30
crescendence. perfect. I give it. I give
34:32
it a nail. Nailed it. I still like
34:34
Woody Harrelson, just the stuff we could
34:37
have talked about. I can't give it a
34:39
three because I mean, it
34:41
almost feels like I'm I'm giving it a
34:43
lower score because of the excitement I
34:45
had going in. I give it a one.
34:47
I wanted like could have been a
34:49
five. I give it a point five and
34:51
I find it insane that we can
34:54
go through three, well, two and a half,
34:56
two hours and 37 minutes with Woody
34:58
Harrelson. And I don't think they mentioned one
35:00
name of one movie, except for this
35:02
new one that Joe was forced to go
35:04
see, which I still don't know the
35:06
name of. Not one
35:08
movie he was in, not a
35:10
TV show he was in. Like
35:13
the only movie shit they talked
35:15
about was Woody telling Joe that
35:17
they had to wear masks on
35:19
set. Yeah. Here's the
35:21
thing, too, is they all mentioned .F .A.
35:23
But just kept flying through. And how
35:25
many times has Joe been on this
35:27
on his show and mentioned the fact
35:29
that Woody Harrelson's dad may have killed
35:31
J .F .K.? That's why it's not a
35:33
five for me. I mean, OK, let's
35:35
just stop for one second before we
35:37
move on. Do we really like it?
35:39
Just stop and ask yourself, do we
35:41
really think we even live in a
35:43
world where Joe goes, hey, Woody. Should
35:46
I kill J .F .K.? And Woody
35:48
just Woody just 50 years secret goes,
35:51
you know what, Joe? Yeah. No, I expect
35:53
Joe to say something like, isn't it crazy
35:55
that there's the rumor out there that you're
35:57
and Woody says, yeah, I think. That's fucking
35:59
crazy. My dad wasn't even in the CIA
36:02
and we just put it to rest. I
36:04
don't disagree with that. Go
36:08
ahead. Come on. Let's move on. So
36:11
that got a total combined score of
36:13
2 .25 or 2 .5. Come on. I
36:15
gave it a three. I gave it
36:17
a one. I gave it a 4
36:19
.5 combined, but that's 4 .5 out of
36:21
15. Yeah. So bad. No,
36:23
it's a 31. It's a fail.
36:25
Yeah. That's interesting. If you count
36:27
up all the scores in the end, what do you
36:29
mean? 2 ,274, Mike Baker. That
36:31
actually makes a lot of sense. Yeah.
36:34
Overall from the three of us, well, just
36:36
to give people an idea of how good or
36:38
bad the, I think I'm sure someone out
36:40
there had worked at the math previously. I mean,
36:42
I had never thought about it before six
36:44
years. Yeah. I'm just your average guy. Okay. Come
36:46
on. What was the name? What was the
36:48
number? Sorry,
36:53
274, Mike Baker. Oh, yes,
36:55
you did say that. The bike maker. Getting
36:57
to the bottom of it in the fog of war. Someone
37:00
knows the answers. The
37:02
prom Iran. Always.
37:05
And who created Iran? I
37:07
don't even know. I guess it would be,
37:09
it'd be soft power. would be to see
37:11
that soft power or for a simple speak,
37:13
you got to keep your bitches in check.
37:16
And that's what USA it is. Cause
37:18
when he's, I thought there'd be a
37:20
point cause Ben's, he was using a
37:22
lot of Ben's information said, you know, uh,
37:25
he says USA eight is when it's too
37:27
dirty for the CIA to do and that
37:29
we, that could have been in, but I
37:32
like that. No, I don't know if you
37:34
caught it, but Mike Baker scoffed at that
37:36
as if like, there's nothing too dirty for
37:38
us. You don't know. Yeah,
37:40
you don't know. I'm, he's like, I'm the
37:42
spokesperson, but there's guys out there doing dirt
37:44
brother. We tried to kill Castro 500 times.
37:46
How many times did you try and kill
37:48
Castro? But wait, I want to go back
37:50
to this Iran thing. Cause it's a, it
37:53
actually brings up a great point. His whole
37:55
thing, his whole overlying thing was. If
37:57
we don't do this, other people are doing this.
37:59
And we only do it to keep Americans safe
38:02
and happy and rich and fed and fat. Yes,
38:04
of course. And if you're American, you kind of
38:06
have to get behind that and go like, sure,
38:08
I guess I don't care if we crack a
38:10
few fucking eggs on the way. Like that's the
38:12
cost of doing business and I live pretty. But
38:15
then you create an Iran, because
38:17
that's 100 % what happened. Iran was
38:19
a great place before the U .S.
38:21
intervened. And it was
38:23
100 % the CIA and now they're
38:25
their biggest enemy. And now the
38:27
CIA is constantly like, they're our
38:29
biggest threat. They're who we have
38:31
to worry about. And it's weird
38:33
to be like 70 years ago,
38:35
you did this. Well, listen, two
38:38
things can be true at the
38:40
same time. America created, like you're
38:42
saying, this situation where if
38:44
they don't fill the
38:46
void, somebody other
38:48
no, created the void.
38:50
I understand. But they
38:52
have created it. If they
38:55
don't fill it, somebody else
38:57
will fill it. If they
38:59
hadn't created it, we're having
39:01
a different discussion. But the
39:03
reality right now is the
39:06
way the system is set up, if America
39:08
doesn't fill that void, somebody else is going
39:10
to come in there and fill that void.
39:12
So wouldn't you rather it be? No, but
39:14
there was no void. You're missing my point
39:16
is like if the U .S. just doesn't
39:18
if they just leave Iran alone to be
39:20
a country, they might be a thriving, wonderful
39:23
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39:25
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40:00
sort of what they want to do.
40:02
Yeah, but the problem that's that's the
40:05
problem Okay, but the problem was this
40:07
we're talking about 1950s and Israel
40:09
had just become a country. So it was
40:11
a weird. You couldn't really use it. Oh,
40:13
no I'm 100 % in agreement with you.
40:15
This is their own problem that they made.
40:17
Yeah, I agree with you now Now they're
40:19
saying they will blow up Israel and we
40:21
can't have that probably by design Let's
40:24
probably by design so we
40:26
can oh because you we all
40:28
are they they need the
40:30
boogeyman Well, I'm afraid
40:32
of Russia. I'm trying to be
40:34
afraid of ram having Israel which They
40:37
kind of made Gives
40:40
them a reason to always be at
40:42
war with somebody over there because they're protecting
40:44
Israel, right? So it's like but that's
40:46
the weirdest thing is Donald Trump's whole deal
40:48
was like I'm getting out of every
40:51
war And I'm not giving money to anyone
40:53
and Israel is still clocking a fucking
40:55
huge towel That's the irony of this whole
40:57
thing, right? Like and even crazier if
40:59
you're an American and you vote over Donald
41:01
Trump You can't be happy when he's
41:03
like we're gonna rebuild Israel the Gaza. I
41:05
I would well Everyone
41:07
says everything Trump says is
41:09
like a crazy thing
41:11
and then it actually here
41:14
even Mike Baker said He
41:16
said that and that made the states
41:18
around so I go on okay He's
41:20
talking this crazy shit. We've got to
41:22
do something and I think we all
41:24
agree something has to be done and
41:26
personally The more I think about the
41:29
hostages like they should have given them
41:31
back like it's and they sent some
41:34
One back and it wasn't the right body.
41:36
It's so like oh since it's just
41:38
something's got to be tank care of
41:40
because it's just Out of control so since
41:42
you guys think I don't tell you
41:44
anything I remember the Member
41:46
during Desert Storm. There was hostages in
41:49
Iraq that got freed you're related to
41:51
one of them, too I am indeed
41:53
this I think this guy's a CIA
41:55
He's our Mike Baker right here. Yeah
41:57
Baker over here No, my grandmother side's
41:59
crazy like a million stories like that
42:01
weird shit. Yeah. Yeah, that's fucking nuts
42:03
But yeah, Mike Baker doesn't think that
42:06
he's actually going to do that He
42:08
thinks it's to people say he's gonna
42:10
actually do that small
42:12
sidebar Apparently the
42:14
51st state how that started Was
42:17
a conversation between Trump and Trudeau
42:20
Trump was talking about tariffs and Trudeau said
42:22
if you were to do that We
42:24
would cease to be a country Thinking he
42:26
was having a normal conversation with the
42:28
guy and Trump said really then maybe you
42:30
shouldn't be a country And that's how
42:32
it got to the 51st state. So it's
42:34
Trudeau Yeah, he was talking to a
42:36
normal person. He doesn't like governor Trudeau at
42:38
all cares back to what
42:40
they're saying is one of the disingenuous thing
42:43
the pearl clutches are coming out right now
42:45
with his Trump said he lowered the price
42:47
of eggs. Yeah, and the eggs
42:49
are going up in price Maybe
42:51
because inflation but also because they might
42:53
have killed because they're killing all these
42:55
chickens But they won't they're just saying
42:57
eggs to be Cheaper and our friend
42:59
was just in Minnesota and eggs are
43:01
cheaper. They're still then we are getting
43:03
them. Yeah, of course Well, that's always
43:05
how it is the prices that they
43:07
won't stand for are they are normal
43:09
No, the prices that they're complaining about
43:11
or are normal in 2010 You
43:14
know what the biggest Bill of
43:16
goods they ever sold us here
43:19
in Canada was they were like
43:22
Yeah, our dollar is lower than
43:24
their dollar, but like that's
43:26
a good thing No,
43:28
no, but like down there You
43:31
know The cost of
43:34
living is higher or whatever like things
43:36
are cheaper, but it's not true at
43:38
all No,
43:40
like a millionaire there is the same as
43:42
a millionaire here except that their million
43:44
is worth more than our million Yeah,
43:46
right now they're million worth substantial
43:48
lot more for your million Well, yeah,
43:51
and like if you take two
43:53
jobs and stack them against each other.
43:55
Yeah, we're just getting paid less
43:57
We're like the women in the argument
44:00
Like, Simon, sometimes, sometimes I see,
44:02
sometimes I see prices of like when
44:04
the housing market crashed in the States
44:06
and they're like, people were foreclosed on
44:08
like 275 ,000 hour homes. I'm like, a
44:11
what? That doesn't exist. Sometimes
44:13
just for listeners, for American
44:15
listeners, that's a trailer. 275 ,000
44:17
hour home ceases to exist in
44:19
this country. It just is
44:21
not a thing that does 175
44:23
,000. Yeah. Not in the city,
44:26
not in the country, nowhere.
44:28
Really? I'm really. Kamar, I swear
44:30
on my life. Yeah, there
44:32
is nowhere. 275 ,000
44:34
is the down payment for us
44:36
in this country now. No,
44:38
it's just so nuts. And look,
44:40
like if you want, if
44:42
we're agreeing with you, fucking three
44:44
terms of Trudeau has turned
44:46
this country into a fucking. They
44:48
can't even plow the snow
44:50
here anymore. Dude, listen, there
44:52
was a point when I was like
44:54
playing a lot of poker stars,
44:56
buying those fucking vanilla master cards. annoying.
45:00
It was. But there was like a six
45:02
month period just before Trudeau, probably probably
45:04
a couple of years before Trudeau took power
45:06
where like our dollar. I remember putting
45:08
money on poker stars and it being like
45:10
you put on 100, you have one
45:12
hundred and nine dollars and being like, what
45:14
the fuck? Because normally you put one
45:16
on and it's like, here's seventy five, you
45:18
piece of shit, because it only I
45:20
don't know why they gave us American money.
45:22
But I remember our dollar being at
45:25
82 cents American. And I thought we were
45:27
like fucking living in Shangri -La. But what
45:29
we should have been doing or someone
45:31
should have been doing is buying American money.
45:33
We should have had Canada aid just
45:35
to manipulate America this whole time. Yeah,
45:37
writing hit songs in America. can't live. Well,
45:40
no, that's what Drake. I was just
45:42
going to say. But just making
45:44
them the psychological warfare that you can't live
45:46
without us or whatever. And we haven't
45:48
done that. You know, we should have done
45:50
as a country when our dollar
45:52
was worth more than theirs. We should have
45:54
borrowed a trillion dollars and
45:56
bought U .S. currency, but apparently Canada
45:58
owned. a lot like China owns a
46:00
lot of the U .S. debt which
46:02
I don't understand at all. How
46:04
can we be in debt and own
46:06
their debt? But the situation comes
46:08
down to this that as the Arctic
46:10
is melting Russia and China want
46:13
it and we either decide to we
46:15
have to be with America or
46:17
we have to fight them or join
46:19
them. We don't have a choice.
46:21
I think it's weird that - What
46:23
part of the Arctic do you want
46:25
because most of Russia is the
46:27
Arctic so I'm just curious. want Antarctica?
46:30
Ars. Antarctica is nowhere
46:32
near. No, our part of the Arctic.
46:34
Equal it. All that. The
46:36
point being is it's going
46:38
to happen at some point and
46:40
we could have invested in crazy
46:42
military that people say there's no way you
46:44
guys are building that base up there to
46:46
defend us but we didn't. And now in
46:48
the business where - Yeah, but you think
46:50
one base is going to do it? We
46:52
would have had to invest. We would have
46:54
crippled our country. We would have but How
46:57
is that better? We're going to lose our whole country
46:59
to America or somebody now. That's why it's better. I don't
47:01
think that's going to happen. I think
47:03
inevitably it will happen. I
47:06
don't. Like in your lifetime it
47:08
will happen? I think
47:10
someone is born today
47:12
will experience Canada being
47:14
absorbed into something. That's
47:16
your child. Yeah, it's
47:18
going to be American or Chinese or
47:20
Russian one of the three. I really think
47:23
so because everyone's saying now that is
47:25
the weakness. We are so exposed up there.
47:27
But what do you mean? We're exposed
47:29
everywhere. Well, no, we're not on this border
47:31
and water is a pretty good - But
47:33
even to say - Oh, I see what
47:35
saying. say we're exposed, the US, it
47:37
doesn't matter how they feel about us. They
47:39
don't want Russia and China that close
47:41
to them. So at that alone finish my
47:44
thought is when people are saying what
47:46
Russia did with China, when Russia's doing the
47:48
Ukraine, the reason why you have to
47:50
fight Ukraine is because Russia China
47:52
will think it can take Taiwan. Well,
47:54
no, people think they're going to
47:56
take Canada because we would be
47:59
a lot less of a fight.
48:01
Then Ukraine was they have a
48:03
million person army. We have 80 ,000
48:05
people in army. Are you also
48:07
forgetting though? I thought the whole
48:09
thing with Russia was that the
48:11
Crimean people were mostly loyal to
48:13
Russia and the Darmas Yeah, isn't
48:15
that a huge difference? Well what it
48:17
turns out to is at the
48:19
end day What America wants now
48:21
to end the war is half
48:23
of Ukraine so instead of using
48:25
their country to They're losing
48:27
it to America and Zelensky has
48:29
just said he will quit as president
48:31
if Ukraine can join NATO Which
48:33
is interesting because that's kind of the
48:35
same thing he wants to do
48:37
with Palestine Is there like a
48:39
trend here you guys are seeing where
48:42
they just want if shit goes bad enough
48:44
The Trump's just gonna come in and
48:46
be like well, it's mine now You guys
48:48
can't get along. It's my but I
48:50
said when Trump is saying that Nate that
48:52
those things about 51st The king's supposed
48:54
to say no no Germany's
48:57
supposed everyone's so I don't think any
48:59
of them buy it supposed to happen isn't
49:01
playing out Trump's supposed to go over
49:03
there and say you guys can't agree well
49:05
Then I'm gonna cut it in half
49:07
at which point somebody says no don't cut
49:10
it in half take it whole and
49:12
then the judge says It's clearly theirs, but
49:14
apparently he's like you guys can't decide
49:16
in that According to school schoolyard rules that
49:18
makes it mine the one ironic thing
49:20
I think is that apparently Macron is going
49:22
to America to tell Trump he's got
49:24
to stand his ground like what are you
49:27
talking about France? They hate
49:29
each other. No, they surrender They're
49:31
cowards, but that is a historic
49:33
example of surrendering working out well for
49:35
someone or better than complete death
49:37
I meant to ask you cork and
49:39
I I saw Trump this week
49:42
and this wasn't doctored. I actually saw
49:44
this with no no context Where
49:47
he was like, yeah, we did it
49:50
and he's like was it legal? I don't
49:52
know, but we did it. Is that
49:54
not concerning to you? What was he talking
49:56
about something that they did involving this
49:58
fucking firing of people or doge is but
50:00
That's happening everywhere all the time. What?
50:03
Illegality. No, I forget the illegality. We
50:05
know that I'm not talking about that.
50:07
My concern. My
50:09
concern is simply that. If
50:12
Trump supporter, is your, you should be worried
50:14
that the next person who gets in is not
50:16
going to be afraid to break the law
50:18
to hurt the other side of the country. Is
50:20
that not the, like I'm concerned about that. Cause
50:23
I don't want this turning into a
50:25
pissing contest where everyone, we're half the
50:27
country hates the other half. Again, what
50:29
I said before is what everyone said
50:31
was happening was actually happening the opposite.
50:33
The Biden was a crying family and
50:35
they were doing this. And now they've
50:37
gotten this point. Um, cash
50:40
metallurgists got in, we'll
50:42
see. If they start putting
50:44
heads on, um, pikes
50:47
or whatever you want to say. Mike
50:49
Baker for whatever he is said,
50:51
he does, he greases this bloat
50:53
and stuff and doesn't like the
50:55
way Trump's doing it and doesn't
50:58
like the messaging. But
51:00
I'm sure based on what Mike
51:02
Ben saying, it takes 50 years. If
51:04
you start to go, okay, we'll
51:06
start the committee of downsizing your
51:08
upsizing to downsize. And I, I
51:10
think this has never been done
51:13
before. So it looks really dangerous
51:15
and drastic and only time will
51:17
tell if what they're doing is
51:19
better. But again, uh,
51:21
in Canada, they're talking about tariffs in
51:23
two countries. It's, it's, it's lit a fire
51:25
under everyone. I would like my concerns.
51:27
Sorry. My concerns just that I see a
51:29
lot of Trump supporters kind of like,
51:31
uh, who four years ago
51:33
would have been quoting the constitution
51:35
now kind of being like, fuck it,
51:37
throw it out the window, which
51:40
is a little bit concerning. But what
51:42
they're saying is some of this
51:44
money that taxpayer paid was used by
51:46
the government to tell the people
51:48
everyone likes Democrats and Republic, like the
51:50
government, yeah, seems more
51:52
illegal than anything they've done. I'd like to
51:54
believe that if this was Trump's first
51:56
term in office and he had eight years,
51:58
he would. do this at a better
52:00
pace?" Well, there's no better pace. You got
52:02
to just pull the band -aid off. I'm
52:04
fine with that. I don't care about
52:06
the pace. My term, again, my
52:08
concern is like, you don't
52:10
swear. When you're sworn into whatever
52:12
fucking position it is, you swear to
52:15
the Constitution. That's it. You
52:17
swear to uphold the Constitution. nothing to
52:19
do with Donald Trump or Joe Biden
52:21
or any of that. You're just, these
52:23
rules up here, they're all that matters.
52:25
And my concern is just that now
52:27
people are trying to usurp that in
52:29
weird ways. Both sides, by the way,
52:31
I'm not saying it's just a Trump
52:33
thing. My concern is when the Democrats
52:35
do it too. Is Adam Schiff made
52:37
up a whistleblower to get an impeachment
52:39
of the president, so
52:41
fraudily fraud? Yeah, that whole Well, he should
52:43
to jail. So, again, I'm
52:46
No, no, no, but I agree or I
52:48
think you more say bygones be bygones.
52:50
This got really dirty. Let's stop it here.
52:52
Because if you're saying it's illegal, then
52:54
he should be brought up, but it's going
52:56
to look like this is just - Hear
52:59
me out. I'm not saying Trump - Listen,
53:01
I'm not saying that if he's proved what
53:03
he's doing is illegal, he should go to
53:05
jail. I'm not one of these like Trump
53:07
is a criminal. I'm not saying that. What
53:09
I'm saying is my concern is just that
53:11
like, if you're going to break the rules
53:13
to do what you want now in four
53:15
years, if you're not in, the Democrats can
53:17
just go and break the same rules to
53:19
make it shitty again. My concern about that.
53:21
Just because it has, it happens to be
53:23
for the better good, for the better doesn't
53:25
mean you can break the rules to do
53:27
it. Well, the other Well, mean,
53:29
okay, sorry, technically it does actually. I mean,
53:31
isn't that the whole idea of like the
53:33
Second Amendment? Is that you have
53:35
guns and if you don't trust these
53:37
people, you take over? Like, that's the whole
53:39
idea. So like, if Donald Trump thinks
53:41
that the government is not being run by
53:44
the - Well, no, it's to protect yourself
53:46
from a tyrannical government. That doesn't mean
53:48
if you disagree with the government, you can
53:50
use your guns to take them over.
53:52
That means in case of the worst case
53:54
scenario that the government comes to your
53:56
door with guns to try and make you
53:59
do whatever you protect your - saying is
54:01
he's not using guns he's saying I
54:03
think there is someone else controlling the government
54:05
and I will I'm willing to bend
54:07
the rules that they're clearly breaking anyway. No,
54:09
I was agreeing with you But I
54:11
think that's probably people's you know, if it's
54:13
for the better good, then we're okay
54:16
with him You know bending the Constitution or
54:18
whatever. Yeah, which shouldn't be the case
54:20
everybody that like if that's your law Then
54:22
that's your law. I was I was
54:24
gonna say this for the post job But
54:26
we I've just got to get to
54:28
because we're into my have you heard the
54:31
post -national state No, does that
54:33
sound like a good thing? A
54:35
post -national state refers to
54:37
a concept where countries identity
54:39
and governance are no longer
54:41
Primarily defined by traditional notions
54:43
of nature such as shared
54:45
ethnicity language or a singular
54:47
cultural narrative instead of emphasize
54:49
diversity global interconnectedness in Super -national
54:52
institutions i .e. the EU
54:54
the UN over a unified
54:56
national identity in this framework
54:58
So this is ship might
55:00
focus more on universal values
55:02
like inclusivity in human rights
55:04
rather than historical or territorial Cohesion
55:07
the term suggests a shift away from
55:09
the 19th century model of Nation
55:11
-state toward a more fluid cosmopolitan entity.
55:13
Does that sound good to you?
55:15
Well, it doesn't sound as terrible as
55:17
you're making out to say it
55:19
seems like a Fork
55:22
in the road of how you decide a
55:24
country to be okay, and so big because
55:26
this is what But
55:28
let me ask you a question if we
55:30
were sitting here 300 years ago And
55:33
there was four slaves hanging in my backyard Do
55:35
you not think that someone might have the same
55:37
conversation we're having and they're like Does this sound
55:39
like a good world to you where I don't
55:41
have five slaves where you know what I mean
55:43
like it The way you
55:45
framed it first of all was you framed
55:47
it as if we should be afraid of
55:49
this And then you read out something that
55:51
sounds like well, no, I I had the
55:53
complete reaction because It was
55:55
quoted by Justin Trudeau in 2015 with
55:57
the new york time Shortly after
55:59
becoming Prime Minister Trudeau said there's no
56:02
core identity. No mainstream in Canada
56:04
Those qualities are what make us the
56:06
first post -national state So this is
56:08
all by design and I I
56:10
want to go the other way. Well,
56:12
a close swab thing then Right,
56:16
you'll you have no money and you'll
56:18
be happy and no identity It's just
56:20
we're all for common values. It doesn't
56:22
matter where you're from or what you
56:24
do Which on paper sounds good, but
56:26
does yeah, but mean that's not true
56:28
Provinces are so different from each other
56:31
So we obviously that's why I
56:33
think when they say the United
56:35
States of America. It really should
56:37
be United 50 countries That
56:39
all working like that's what it is. be like
56:41
a country. It is that's why they all
56:43
make their own rules You got you gotta remember
56:45
car. It's built the idea the idea is
56:47
simple every 50 states follows this constitution and each
56:49
one of those states gets to write its
56:51
own constitution and With in that constitution
56:54
as long as you're following that one you can do
56:56
whatever you want That's why there's no gambling in
56:58
Utah. Oh, that's interesting. That is how it works Well,
57:01
and then that leaves me how it
57:03
works here is what the hell is the
57:06
federal government doing? Well, the federal government
57:08
is making the rules that all the countries
57:10
follow to make sure that one country
57:12
doesn't beat up on another Country or whatever
57:14
the case with standing clauses is anytime
57:16
a province doesn't agree with that they can
57:18
pull that clause Sorry,
57:20
what the notwithstanding clause
57:25
Whether fellow government says something they want to
57:27
do and one provinces I don't want to
57:29
do that they invoke the notwithstanding clause and
57:31
then what happened standing is doing it all
57:33
together Well, they just don't do it or
57:35
it goes a lot. It goes to court
57:37
and they decide whether they have to be
57:39
forced to follow at all so wait, let
57:41
me get this straight like Canada
57:43
has no death penalty, right?
57:46
No, so if Newfoundland decided they wanted
57:48
a death penalty They would just
57:50
pull out this notwithstanding clause and then
57:52
do whatever the fuck they want
57:55
I think so. Well, how come that's
57:57
never happened before in the history
57:59
of Canada all of Canada is Basically
58:01
Democrats That's not true
58:03
No, but the Conservatives are the Republicans
58:05
Yeah, but even most of them
58:07
are Democrats compared to their their sensibilities
58:09
in America You understand? but I
58:11
was just giving you an example There's
58:13
capitals up here that hate Trump.
58:15
I think the problem is you live
58:17
here Mm -hmm. Yeah, and like we
58:20
live in a very sort of
58:22
Democratic liberal not even Ottawa Eastern Eastern
58:24
Ontario Eastern Canada if you go
58:26
to Alberta Those are true and tried
58:28
and hard 100 % I'm sure new
58:30
if you go to any little
58:32
town. It's the same thing. It's just
58:34
in the cities No, you're right
58:36
But what I'm saying is metropolitan city.
58:39
I'm saying you go to metropolitan
58:41
Calgary and It's
58:43
but everyone Everyone says that
58:45
if Canada were to become the
58:47
51st state or the 52nd
58:49
state after my joke Yeah, it
58:51
would be a blue state
58:53
So would not it'd be Disadvantages
58:56
to America for Canada to
58:58
join And I think
59:00
that's true. I think we would
59:02
be more a democratic then does does
59:04
all of the post does all
59:06
of Ontario Population
59:09
-wise make up the other
59:11
provinces combined almost 50
59:14
million It is not Ontario
59:16
and Quebec are half
59:18
the country Simon if you
59:20
take Quebec City to Windsor Half
59:22
the country lives in that little corridor
59:24
right there, but come begs the
59:26
question. Why don't we have a fucking
59:28
high -speed fucking real coming? It is
59:30
coming. Yeah. Oh great. I'll be
59:32
fucking. Oh, no not your lifetime. Yeah.
59:34
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah exactly when they
59:36
said it's 3 .5 billion design
59:39
phase Just
59:44
a bunch of coffee meetings
59:46
and who wants yeah Our
59:48
o -train is any
59:50
indication bankrupt this country trying to
59:52
build high -speed rail So the one thing
59:55
I want to tell that military the
59:57
one thing I want about to say this
59:59
USAid is I think the
1:00:01
media's portrayal is a lot worse than
1:00:03
it is. And if they find
1:00:05
something that is doing something good, they
1:00:07
probably do do it. And I
1:00:09
think we've also, or continue the funding,
1:00:11
but I think we must agree
1:00:13
that there could be a point where
1:00:15
this funding is not enabling the
1:00:17
other country to get off its own
1:00:19
two feet. Especially
1:00:22
if that money is not going directly
1:00:24
to people, which a lot. they have,
1:00:26
they have even gone to, I've
1:00:28
seen some stuff about what happened
1:00:31
with Haiti in USAID. Yeah,
1:00:33
they just robbed all of it. They just stole
1:00:35
all of it. Yeah, none of that went to Haiti.
1:00:37
I did like, I'll give Joe some flowers. I
1:00:39
did like that he brought up, he had obviously seen
1:00:41
the same thing I did when he brought up
1:00:44
the social security in the 150 years. Yes,
1:00:46
the computer doesn't. Well, then I, yeah, that
1:00:48
I was saying it's an older coding thing
1:00:50
and that these young hotshot coders, go ahead.
1:00:52
Again, that seems like something that should be
1:00:54
updated. So this was a light shine on
1:00:56
it. No, no, I said that at the
1:00:58
time. I said that. The other thing I
1:01:00
wanted to say is remember I've always said
1:01:02
that they should do something like that here
1:01:05
with voting. People
1:01:07
flying all the way to these houses
1:01:09
to discussing matters seems a little archaic. Like
1:01:11
it's a hundred years old. And that's
1:01:13
the one thing I think everyone should do.
1:01:16
like, yeah, there should be an overhaul
1:01:18
and it would be difficult no matter who's
1:01:20
in power. I mean, that
1:01:22
overhaul wouldn't. You give every member
1:01:24
of Parliament a fucking camera and they
1:01:26
can sit in their fucking office
1:01:28
and then you just have a projector
1:01:30
where whoever wants to talk. Someone's
1:01:32
losing their job and there is clatter
1:01:34
off. don't give a fuck. finally,
1:01:36
it was the same people who said
1:01:38
everyone's got to get vaccinated for
1:01:40
the good of everyone is turning around
1:01:42
now and saying, we've got to
1:01:44
protect these couple jobs. But this theoretically
1:01:46
cutting people, people losing jobs is
1:01:48
for the good of the whole country.
1:01:50
And that is disingenually not being communicated
1:01:53
by the media right now. And that's why
1:01:55
they're fighting back. We'll see what happens though. mean,
1:01:57
here's the thing. are like, you know, it's
1:01:59
easy for us sitting up here, not losing our
1:02:01
jobs to just callously be like whatever it's
1:02:03
people losing their jobs. Um, that does
1:02:05
matter to people. There's probably good people that
1:02:07
lost their job. You admitted that we said that
1:02:09
just like there's good people lost their jobs
1:02:11
because they wouldn't get vaccinated. No, on. I'm not.
1:02:13
No, no, but you didn't let me finish.
1:02:15
You didn't let me finish my point. My point
1:02:17
was just that, um, like
1:02:19
I saw this thing the other day. And again,
1:02:21
it's to me, it was like rhetoric. And I'll tell
1:02:23
you why it was this park ranger who, you
1:02:25
know, he was like, this is my dream job. I've
1:02:27
had this job for 25 years. And
1:02:29
because of these cuts, they just blindly fired me. And it
1:02:31
was this long spiel about, you know, I wanted my son
1:02:33
to have this job and I want to pass on to
1:02:36
him. And I thought to myself after I read it, I
1:02:38
was like that's jobs onto sons. No, he just like,
1:02:40
you know, my son will be bred into this job. And
1:02:42
when I when I was done reading, I was
1:02:44
like, that is sad. This is this seems like a
1:02:46
nice guy who probably didn't deserve to lose his
1:02:48
job. And he got caught up in this bullshit, the
1:02:50
government bloat, but he probably did deserve to keep
1:02:52
his job. But then I also thought to myself, in
1:02:55
reality, this guy will probably go and reapply and
1:02:57
get the job. Because he seemed like he was good
1:02:59
at it and cared. And so at the end
1:03:01
of the day, that's it. And so part of me
1:03:03
was like, I'm just falling for this rhetoric where
1:03:05
I'm like, angry for this guy who lost his job
1:03:07
in a country I don't live in, where they're
1:03:09
cutting jobs that don't affect you know mean? Well, you're
1:03:11
also making an assumption that he can just reapply
1:03:13
for his job and get it. I think he can.
1:03:16
Yeah, I don't like that he's necessarily gonna
1:03:19
get it, I guess is my point. My
1:03:21
point was this, if everything this guy wrote
1:03:23
in this thing was true, they would be
1:03:25
crazy not to hire him back. They're I
1:03:27
don't believe the US is just now not
1:03:29
looking for good qualified people. I
1:03:31
think Kamar's point is like, you fire everyone
1:03:33
in one fell swoop, it's ugly as
1:03:35
shit. Everyone who reapplies who's worth
1:03:37
their salt gets their job back if their
1:03:40
job was needed. If your job wasn't
1:03:42
needed. Unfortunately, go to the private sector. Yeah,
1:03:44
maybe use one they did. But
1:03:47
can I ask you a question? got an email
1:03:49
saying, what have you done last week? If you
1:03:51
don't respond, you're fired. I
1:03:53
gotta ask you a question because I was
1:03:55
crunching the numbers and we were blown
1:03:57
away that there's three million federal US employees
1:03:59
like we were shocked by that number,
1:04:01
right? Like you're like, it's so high. No.
1:04:04
No what? Well, there's a lot of
1:04:06
federal employees in Canada. Governments
1:04:08
are big. No, I know, but
1:04:10
the way I looked at it was this.
1:04:12
There's 360 million people there. there's 3 million
1:04:14
federal employees, that's basically like. for every 10
1:04:16
people? Every 100. There's
1:04:19
3 million employees. Every 100 people
1:04:21
has it. Yeah. No, that makes
1:04:23
sense. This is the DMV.
1:04:25
is it, is when I started quenching the numbers,
1:04:27
I was like, that number actually makes sense.
1:04:29
Parking attendance. is it is all I started. Well,
1:04:31
no, that's that's I don't think that's federal. That's
1:04:33
probably on a city level. I'm talking about
1:04:35
federal employees. OK, yeah, yeah. But even then, like
1:04:38
if you think about it for for every 100.
1:04:40
NCC part, I'm just trying to be the
1:04:42
same here. That's the thing is a lot of
1:04:44
the times we get caught up in numbers where
1:04:46
it's like, there's 3 million federal employees. You're like,
1:04:48
holy shit, what a bloated government. But then
1:04:50
when you break it down to something like I
1:04:52
just said, you're like, well, it doesn't seem that
1:04:54
crazy. And I think as in a a
1:04:56
first world country or G7, it is common to
1:04:58
have a shit. The government, yeah, yeah, yeah. I
1:05:00
mean, again, I think there's stability. That doesn't
1:05:02
mean I don't think there's a shitload of bloat
1:05:04
and waste in the government. I know that exists.
1:05:06
But I'm just saying is when you start to
1:05:08
break down the numbers, you're like, yeah, you
1:05:10
probably need one employee for every 100 people. Well,
1:05:12
I'm going to go back to what I said
1:05:14
before, whether if it's three million people, yeah, then
1:05:17
just hire a force of people
1:05:19
to do the cuts so you don't
1:05:21
have to do them blindly. And
1:05:23
then you you put them on like
1:05:25
you're not hiring them. It's a
1:05:27
contract, a contract. And when it's done,
1:05:29
those people go off and do
1:05:31
whatever the fuck they were doing before.
1:05:34
Instead of having 10 guys do it and
1:05:37
then saying, well, we have to do it
1:05:39
this way because otherwise it would take too
1:05:41
long. That's how the military always worked, right? You
1:05:44
get out of high school, you join the
1:05:46
military, you do three years, they give you $30
1:05:48
,000. They send you up to school, you can
1:05:50
go to school, do something else, stay with
1:05:52
the military. Like, the conception
1:05:54
of that, it sounds so barbaric when
1:05:56
you're 19 or 17 about this idea of
1:05:58
two years. with the
1:06:00
army, I gotta get my hair cut or
1:06:02
whatever, but now it's like, got my
1:06:04
hair cut. That's what's it called, public service.
1:06:07
It really makes sense, government should be
1:06:09
the same thing. You come in,
1:06:11
you get your three years, get, for
1:06:13
sure you're gonna get $1 ,000 every two weeks
1:06:15
as a pension no matter what you do
1:06:17
in your life because of your service, but. No,
1:06:19
that's interesting, but that's not what I was.
1:06:21
I was talking about the people cutting the jobs
1:06:23
in the doge. Come on,
1:06:25
I don't it. The nerdy? The 10
1:06:27
people. The squad, they shouldn't be,
1:06:30
what gives them the right? No, I'm
1:06:32
saying have them head it, but
1:06:34
just hire on 1 ,000 people or
1:06:36
10 ,000 people. However many people you
1:06:38
need to be able to cut the
1:06:40
right people without doing this blanket
1:06:42
cut. Like they're not doing that because
1:06:45
they don't wanna spend the money and it's
1:06:47
not an everlasting salary. It's a one
1:06:49
shot deal. And trust me, it'll save you
1:06:51
a lot of money in the long
1:06:53
run because you won't be having to rehire
1:06:55
it. Like somebody has to do that
1:06:57
job, man. The one thing I'll say. You
1:06:59
know what I mean? To rehire all
1:07:02
the people you just fired, I guess, yeah.
1:07:04
Or the evilest thing, not only are
1:07:06
they firing all these people, they're also putting
1:07:08
an AI that can do their jobs. Well,
1:07:11
that would be pretty fucking sneaky. But
1:07:13
the people are saying kids are old
1:07:15
enough to decide where they could cut
1:07:17
off their penis are the ones saying
1:07:19
these kids are too old to go
1:07:21
over the books or too young to
1:07:23
go over the books. So it's again,
1:07:25
we walk in a lot of contradictions.
1:07:27
Yeah, no, that's not my opinion on
1:07:29
these 10 kids. I don't care how
1:07:32
old they are. I'm just like, why
1:07:34
are there only 10 people doing this
1:07:36
job? My only issue with them would
1:07:38
be security clearance. That would be my
1:07:40
only issue. Just that everyone
1:07:42
who gets access to all that
1:07:44
data usually has to pass a lot
1:07:46
of security clearance. But whatever, let's
1:07:49
move on. Yeah, the thing I, the
1:07:51
exciting thing the most is all
1:07:53
this is going to be seen as
1:07:55
what happens. Oh, Lassie, in
1:07:57
the 2008, it was very hard.
1:07:59
In America and the two which one
1:08:01
was that all that the housing
1:08:03
crisis stuff Yeah, you tell you about
1:08:05
it. We didn't feel well. I'm sure we felt it. We
1:08:07
paid a You know eight hundred
1:08:09
dollars more a year, but it didn't We
1:08:12
thought there'd be people around barrels
1:08:14
with fire. Well, there should have been
1:08:16
no No, we have they hadn't
1:08:18
availed them out there would have been
1:08:20
people around barrels not country No
1:08:22
in America, but I'm just saying it
1:08:25
seems like this the
1:08:28
unintended consequence stuff is less than when
1:08:30
they had to bail out all
1:08:32
those banks and just flood the economy
1:08:34
Which got us into this mix Sorry,
1:08:36
I'm not sure I'm understanding that
1:08:38
seemed a lot more Agree time
1:08:41
at that time than all this
1:08:43
so far. Then yeah, well, I
1:08:45
mean, they're totally different, right? We're
1:08:47
they're we're not saying that there's
1:08:49
gonna be a collapse Well, no,
1:08:51
I mean maybe Obama decided
1:08:53
we're gonna bail out all these
1:08:55
banks Trump is deciding we're gonna cut
1:08:57
the shit of this government and
1:08:59
first off the economy The economy is
1:09:02
100 % about to collapse. Yeah. Yes,
1:09:04
that may be no, I'm not
1:09:06
saying again I'll I'll restate this point.
1:09:08
I'm not saying doge is a
1:09:10
bad thing. I mean the name is
1:09:12
terrible But the idea of cleaning
1:09:14
the swamp we've all been saying to
1:09:16
do that. I'm questioning their methods Everyone
1:09:19
is I just think we've never seen this
1:09:22
happen before and when something happens that you
1:09:24
don't Think it looks bad or
1:09:26
whatever fair enough, but we also how
1:09:28
all can like use our
1:09:30
brains and the last stage won't say
1:09:32
Mike Baker when Joe's throwing in
1:09:34
this stuff about, you know Manipulating
1:09:38
governments Mike was
1:09:40
like What did you think
1:09:42
you're doing? Obviously, so he was very honest
1:09:44
there and we're at the bottom of
1:09:46
it Because usually he comes on he's like
1:09:48
manipulating the government. What are you talking? Fucking
1:09:52
retard I've been trying to wink at you
1:09:54
the whole time Yeah,
1:09:56
I give this a one though. I
1:09:59
mean out of all all the Mike Baker
1:10:01
episodes that have ever happened. I think this
1:10:03
was probably the best one, but
1:10:05
I'll still, I'll give you, I'll go
1:10:07
with your one. Oh, and one more
1:10:09
thing, instead of riding across on camels
1:10:11
to raise money, which probably costs a
1:10:13
million dollars, just give them the money.
1:10:15
Again there, or sell chocolate bars. It
1:10:17
seemed like a bit of a indulgent
1:10:19
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1:10:21
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Philippe. Esparza.
1:12:02
Felipe. Esparza.
1:12:06
Whenever, whenever
1:12:08
conversation follows
1:12:10
apart. Conversation,
1:12:12
whenever conversation follows apart.
1:12:14
Follows apart. It always
1:12:16
goes to movies. Because
1:12:20
you can talk about movies and
1:12:22
who's in that forever. But I'm
1:12:24
cool with that. If that's the
1:12:26
worst, like that's, I'm fine. I
1:12:28
could talk about movies forever too,
1:12:30
couldn't you? I'd rather them talk
1:12:32
about movies than start asking Joe
1:12:34
about his fitness routine or any
1:12:36
number of things or everything. Well,
1:12:38
that's what that's why the next
1:12:40
podcast after that is a unicorn,
1:12:42
so to speak. But
1:12:44
craziness produces art. How do we not
1:12:46
do true romance for the fucking
1:12:48
movie game to Mike Baker and Joseph
1:12:50
Rogan spoke about it. They spoke
1:12:52
about the scene, the moors. Remember Joe
1:12:54
was like I'm 2 % African because
1:12:56
I'm Italian. Well, it was Felipe
1:12:58
Esparza, the one we're on right now.
1:13:00
But yeah, I said why didn't
1:13:02
you know he hasn't a chance yet?
1:13:04
No, I said we did Mike
1:13:06
Baker. Oh, he's been done. He's saying
1:13:09
it happened in Felipe, our sponsor. Yeah,
1:13:11
the one he's gonna do is what you're saying.
1:13:13
The one we're doing right now. Yeah. Oh, we're
1:13:15
now doing the movie. I'm pretty sure we've done
1:13:17
true romance. know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they
1:13:19
didn't have anything to talk about. They talked about
1:13:21
so many movies. But back to
1:13:24
cocaine. You
1:13:26
know, when Felipe was like, yeah, sure, sure,
1:13:28
you've done it. But Joe, I'm sure hasn't. But
1:13:30
the people who have done it, it makes
1:13:32
you crazy. And then you
1:13:34
can make art. But it's
1:13:36
definitely, except in the,
1:13:38
you know, rare cases of the
1:13:40
rolling stones or whatever, you,
1:13:42
you, you burn up and fade away.
1:13:45
Sam Kinnison. Yeah,
1:13:47
I don't think cocaine is like a prolonged,
1:13:50
it'll get you. And
1:13:52
it gets you, but it makes
1:13:54
you crazy. And not everyone should do
1:13:56
cocaine and try to be an artist, but
1:13:59
some that do. It helps. I
1:14:02
thought like all the great artists were
1:14:04
on heroin, not cocaine. Well,
1:14:07
no, like Stephen King wrote everything on
1:14:09
Coke and cigarettes, right? there are some
1:14:11
people that... But I think the cocaine
1:14:13
is the performance enhancing. The
1:14:15
heroin is more the... Creative. No,
1:14:18
to deal with fame, because they talked
1:14:20
about it a bit, but being famous,
1:14:23
if you're young, it's a, it said
1:14:25
it's a curse or whatever, but it totally is
1:14:28
because it's a once in a lifetime thing for
1:14:30
you to be at any point in your
1:14:32
life at any age. That's how I justify in
1:14:34
my head. I'm like, it's good. I didn't
1:14:36
get famous or do anything because I would have
1:14:38
ruined it. so I've actually done the right
1:14:40
thing by % and
1:14:42
if by chance you become famous now.
1:14:45
Yeah, it's a blessing. You would
1:14:47
say, thank God this didn't happen. 100%.
1:14:49
100%. 100%. Although that being said,
1:14:51
no, it was standing. I'd like to
1:14:53
be famous when I was young.
1:14:55
Or anyone does, but we are mature
1:14:58
and old enough to see all
1:15:00
the cases that it never works out.
1:15:02
Joe really is a unicorn in
1:15:04
that regard because he was famous right
1:15:06
from the start. From
1:15:08
the very first second he set
1:15:10
foot in Hollywood, he had
1:15:12
a job, he didn't have to
1:15:14
do any auditions. Listen,
1:15:17
managed to be relevant all
1:15:19
this time. Joe has a
1:15:21
1920s Hollywood story. Yeah. Like
1:15:24
I'm Greta Garbo, I just actually
1:15:26
walked into the executive's office past his
1:15:28
secretary who was smoking and
1:15:30
I said, put me in a movie and next thing you
1:15:32
know, I'm on the set and I'm in a movie. Again,
1:15:34
I auditioned to be an extra and they gave me the
1:15:36
lead role. Like it really
1:15:39
feels like a... A
1:15:41
CIA op, like like aid.
1:15:44
Yeah, like... You remember the rehearsal, the Nathan
1:15:46
Fielder thing when he's trying to plant the
1:15:49
trivia answers on the guy? It's almost like
1:15:51
the CIA was like, okay, we can get
1:15:53
this kid, we'll get him tickets to a
1:15:55
Red Sox game, okay? And when he leaves
1:15:57
the Red Sox game, we'll have
1:15:59
like a... loudspeaker of a guy kicking
1:16:01
a bag because that'll fucking get him
1:16:03
and you know what I mean and
1:16:05
like the whole His trip down this
1:16:07
weird fucking path to a billionaire. I
1:16:09
love that one How Nathan builds the
1:16:11
whole thing and cost him like a
1:16:13
million dollars and then the guy
1:16:15
doesn't want to do it because he doesn't want
1:16:17
to I don't want to throw the answers so
1:16:19
funny Nathan's like,
1:16:21
you know, I just built like this bar
1:16:23
and this thing The pièce de résistance is
1:16:26
the very end where he's gonna tell the
1:16:28
guy that he set the whole thing up
1:16:30
the best And you think he's telling him
1:16:32
and you find out it's the actor dude
1:16:34
It's so good. It's so good And
1:16:36
even better is in the next episode when
1:16:38
he's in when he's on the west coast
1:16:40
And you find out that it was so
1:16:43
expensive to build the bar that they had
1:16:45
to ship it over there and built it
1:16:47
inside and then He's dude when he's like
1:16:49
due to Oregon State law. I had to
1:16:51
build a hundred fifty foot attachment It's an
1:16:53
amazing show like it doesn't get the credit
1:16:55
it deserves Yeah, I mean his whole show
1:16:57
and Nathan ruins everything some of them are
1:17:00
like Fucking the most hilarious,
1:17:02
but it's so funny. It's sort of like
1:17:04
kids in the hall Which bigger but
1:17:06
still Joe had never seen it clean talk
1:17:08
Dave Foley as it's in the hall
1:17:10
is incredible um, but with
1:17:12
fame I listened
1:17:14
to Joey's podcast The
1:17:17
corner with Joey Diaz
1:17:19
and he has he had
1:17:21
chas pulmonary pulmonary on
1:17:23
who wrote um
1:17:26
Bronx tale one of my favorite
1:17:28
movies has pulmonary wrote that and
1:17:30
directed wait wait So the story
1:17:32
is it started out as a
1:17:34
five minute story. He told Not
1:17:37
like comedy but in this sort
1:17:39
of Theater bar where
1:17:41
you tell you tell stories and
1:17:44
built it over a year into
1:17:46
a one -man show So we'd
1:17:48
sit up there and say the whole movie
1:17:50
And in no way but but just just
1:17:52
as an act sold out shows Everyone
1:17:55
in Hollywood Was
1:17:57
coming to the show and saying you
1:18:00
$100 ,000 for that story. And he would
1:18:02
hold out just like Stallone and eventually held
1:18:04
up to a million or two million and
1:18:06
Robert De Niro bought it. Robert,
1:18:08
Redford was there and
1:18:11
he was super successful with not
1:18:13
making a lot of money and
1:18:16
no one knew who he was.
1:18:18
Then he sold it to Robert
1:18:20
De Niro and then
1:18:22
it had to wait a year
1:18:24
before it hit like. Well,
1:18:26
I don't think it ever did great. Like
1:18:29
it wasn't like an Uber popular No,
1:18:31
but at the same time that that came
1:18:33
out, he also booked the usual suspects. Like
1:18:36
he was 40 or 38 years old
1:18:38
or whatever, had crafted this story. It
1:18:40
was his story, starred in it. It
1:18:42
wasn't a huge smash hit, but he
1:18:44
was the toast of the town, anything
1:18:46
he did. And he was saying, you
1:18:49
don't understand with fame, you
1:18:51
can't turn it off. You can
1:18:53
have anything you want, but
1:18:55
this machine to stop. And then
1:18:57
it goes away. And
1:19:00
you may wanna relive something,
1:19:02
but you can't. So it's very
1:19:04
important as Joe said, I
1:19:06
forget one episode, but a gratitude.
1:19:09
But if you're too young, we know with anything.
1:19:12
You don't know what you got till it's gone.
1:19:14
Yeah, youth is wasted on the young.
1:19:17
And so that's probably
1:19:19
why Joe is somewhat
1:19:21
tolerable. I think Joe forgets
1:19:23
a lot of people he's had on the show. When
1:19:26
they talked about the rock, he talked about
1:19:28
him almost like I had met him once,
1:19:30
but he was on in November 2023, but
1:19:32
two years ago. Joe always forgets who he's
1:19:34
had on. in his events, if I had
1:19:36
2000 plus guests on, don't think I'd remember.
1:19:38
There's no way he forgot having the rock
1:19:40
on, though. The guy came and worked out
1:19:42
with them. That's true, his cronies. That's true.
1:19:44
I forgot he was on death because when
1:19:46
he talked about it, like, oh yeah, did
1:19:48
he forget maybe? Well, it was a very
1:19:50
forgettable episode. I can tell you that much.
1:19:53
We always knew it would be. The
1:19:55
rock's never gonna come on and be like, oh,
1:19:57
I snorted coke off the stripper ones and like that
1:19:59
you're in Bangladesh. You're never gonna get that the
1:20:01
rocks are the most clean no, but again, you know,
1:20:03
you could talk about the WWE There's a lot
1:20:05
you could have gone into with the rock that they
1:20:07
didn't bother But again, he's not the type to
1:20:09
spill any beans on Vince or any of the you
1:20:11
know what? I mean, he's not the type to
1:20:13
smear the organization Even after the fact
1:20:15
he's the type of guy to sit in front
1:20:18
of a chair and be like I love
1:20:20
my time at the WWE It was great. I
1:20:22
mean listen. He has an interesting backstory. He's
1:20:24
related to all those guys in the WWE like
1:20:26
there All they talked about was
1:20:28
his fitness routine what he ate on his
1:20:30
cheat day like come on. It was
1:20:32
a fucking Do you remember when
1:20:34
I'm being ventriloquist was a thing?
1:20:37
Yeah, and which little yeah That just
1:20:39
morphed into comedians doing impressions of people
1:20:41
But it used to be a thing
1:20:43
for someone to just come out and
1:20:45
do voices We know what you're doing
1:20:47
here. I mean Jeff Dunham was like
1:20:50
in the early 2000s. He was big He's
1:20:52
still big. He's well. He has a
1:20:54
vague. I mean he has a vagus rest.
1:20:56
Hold on a ventriloquist ventriloquist is different
1:20:59
You're talking about imitate or Impressions
1:21:03
Ventriloquist is with the dummy. Yeah, that's what
1:21:05
Jeff Dunham did. No, I know that's
1:21:07
not what he's totally I totally messed it
1:21:09
up. Oh, sorry. You said ventriloquist at
1:21:11
first. There are still Jeff Dunham But yeah,
1:21:13
I meant just an impressionist But he
1:21:15
would be a guy who just little is
1:21:17
a great example Presidents and and it
1:21:20
was always such a skill. Maybe
1:21:22
it doesn't seem as impressive now,
1:21:24
but now it's like So
1:21:26
we'll do that in their comedy act I
1:21:28
think everyone does a Christopher Walken getting
1:21:30
groceries or whatever you can do that. I
1:21:32
feel like it's moved to Online
1:21:35
maybe like you'll see a lot of people who
1:21:37
have a page where all they do is impressions It's
1:21:39
still a thing, but it's just not yeah, it's
1:21:41
just moved mediums Like I don't know that it work
1:21:43
because like you you're one of those purists where
1:21:45
you're like I don't like crowd work. That's just
1:21:47
a personal thing. No, I can't do crowd work If
1:21:55
I can't do it, it's it's
1:21:57
it's illegitimate I envy I envy you
1:21:59
guys who do crowd work. Listen,
1:22:01
I love your honesty. Um,
1:22:03
taking comedic advice from club owners.
1:22:06
Yeah, that's hard, hard to
1:22:08
swallow. Being,
1:22:10
yeah, can I ask you a question? you take, have
1:22:12
you, do you often take advice from other comedians? I
1:22:15
wish they would give me advice. But
1:22:17
if like, if, if there was a comedian you respected
1:22:19
in Ottawa and they were like, I think I
1:22:21
can punch that up a bit. You would take, you
1:22:23
would take it if you thought it was good.
1:22:25
100 % interesting. And hope they told me before I
1:22:27
was going up. So I just get out of the
1:22:29
way. No, but I meant like it, like first,
1:22:31
like, if it's the first time they've seen you try
1:22:33
out a joke that you've been doing for like
1:22:35
three weeks, you know mean? It's still fresh, but you've
1:22:37
done it a few times and then they tell
1:22:39
you after like no attachment that it would be. But
1:22:41
like even this guy who's, I did that show
1:22:43
last week in Peterborough, he's
1:22:45
hosting the same, some of the same people
1:22:47
are coming to the show that he's promoting, but
1:22:49
he's only been doing it like four years. He
1:22:52
doesn't have any new jokes. And I
1:22:54
said, try telling your jokes, but changing
1:22:56
a word. Yeah,
1:22:59
yeah, just to mix it up because
1:23:01
you have and we also have this
1:23:03
feeling like, oh, you, you know, my
1:23:05
act because you care so much about
1:23:07
me, but people sort of don't remember
1:23:09
and get the gist, the certain misdirections
1:23:11
that are after three times, everyone's going
1:23:13
to know it won't be funny. But
1:23:15
I'm not precious. Yeah. If you do
1:23:17
something better than I can, that's smart.
1:23:22
Bone capabilities. It's
1:23:25
much like you used to
1:23:27
say we only use 10 %
1:23:29
of our brain. Yeah, I'm sure
1:23:31
I'm only using 2 % of
1:23:33
my phone. hundred percent. And
1:23:35
and I've seen videos about what
1:23:37
to unlock the power of
1:23:39
it. Just because it's too much.
1:23:42
I mean, I'll give you guys this, like even
1:23:44
me. But I also
1:23:46
don't think you're meant to use 100 % of
1:23:48
your phone. I think that's a big thing
1:23:50
too. But I even me, I probably only
1:23:52
use 40%. Just keep on eating the steak,
1:23:54
use 2 % of your phone and be
1:23:56
happy. No, but like to give
1:23:58
you an example, I hated Facebook. but I
1:24:00
liked that it told me birthdays. So
1:24:03
I just went through one day. took
1:24:05
an hour and I literally just clicked on
1:24:07
birthdays and it lists everyone. On all
1:24:09
of your friends it lists their birthdays in
1:24:11
order from January 1st to the end.
1:24:13
Everyone that meant anything to me, I just
1:24:15
wrote it in my Google calendars, set
1:24:17
it to remind me every year. I've
1:24:19
never been on Facebook since. My phone
1:24:21
literally will send me a prompt that
1:24:23
says, we think it's Matt Floyd's birthday
1:24:25
today because last year or the year
1:24:28
before, I wished you a happy birthday
1:24:30
on your birthday, yeah. So that's great.
1:24:32
But that's just, I didn't do anything
1:24:34
special. That's the iPhone, it does it.
1:24:36
But that's how into your fucking shit
1:24:38
it is. know what mean? What's even
1:24:40
weirder is when it's like, hey man,
1:24:42
where you been? Post something,
1:24:44
play a game of tennis, come on man.
1:24:46
Search up something, where you been? You're missing out
1:24:49
on the fun. I mean Simon, what's really
1:24:51
creepy is like, I'll get in my car Monday
1:24:53
at, you know, and they'll tell you Ward
1:24:55
is home. Yeah, it's like, no, no, it's like
1:24:57
Ward is only seven minutes away. And I'm
1:24:59
like, yeah, I know. You don't need to tell
1:25:01
me. And how do you know where I'm
1:25:03
going? But isn't that funny that it's like, hey,
1:25:05
that place you go every Monday at six?
1:25:08
This is how you get there. And you're like,
1:25:10
yeah, I know, shithead. Like, I don't, I'm
1:25:12
not that dependent on you. It would be hilarious
1:25:14
if one day at reminding you, like, holy
1:25:16
shit, it's trivia. Yes, yeah, oh my God. How
1:25:18
do I get there again? I've
1:25:22
woken, I'm like Encino man. I've woken up
1:25:24
from a coma. It's like vanilla sky. Yeah.
1:25:27
But come on, like, do you use your,
1:25:29
you use the notes in your iPhone?
1:25:31
Yeah, I really do use notes a lot.
1:25:33
I Yeah, and I use it for
1:25:35
comedy too. I use notes and voice memos.
1:25:37
Yeah. So there you go. mind most
1:25:39
things. And I bet if you needed to level
1:25:41
something, you would use your phone. To
1:25:44
level? Yeah, there's a level. didn't even
1:25:46
know there was a level. There's a fucking
1:25:48
level. you go, yeah. For real? real.
1:25:51
I was looking for a level
1:25:53
the other day. See this measure thing?
1:25:55
You hit measure, and then you
1:25:57
go to level. Shut the fuck up.
1:25:59
Wow. there's a studfire. There's a
1:26:01
stud finder in there. haven't cut off
1:26:03
my hand. Listen, Gory, if
1:26:05
you go and buy a stud finder right
1:26:07
now, it barely works. They're pieces of shit. You
1:26:11
know works? Stop.
1:26:15
You gotta be here for it. You
1:26:17
know where somebody has really missed the
1:26:19
boat? Go on. Is a phone case
1:26:21
that is like a Swiss Army knife.
1:26:23
They've made that the Swiss Army. I
1:26:25
need tweezers all the time and don't
1:26:27
have them. Swiss Army has a phone
1:26:29
phone on me. I don't have a
1:26:31
fucking pair of tweezers. See, I'm going
1:26:33
to make a note in my phone
1:26:35
on your birthday. Simon wants a Swiss
1:26:37
Army phone case. See what I'm saying?
1:26:39
Can people believe we smoked in bars? I
1:26:44
mean, it's funny. As disgusting as I
1:26:46
think it is now, I still romanticize about
1:26:48
it. I want 100 % romanticize about it.
1:26:50
And like right now, if I walked
1:26:53
into a movie theater to watch a film,
1:26:55
and just before the movie started, an
1:26:57
attendant walked in and was like, just so
1:26:59
everyone knows, smoke him if you
1:27:01
got him. I'd be ecstatic. I'd
1:27:03
go and buy a pack of cigarettes. Speaking
1:27:05
of true romance, it's playing at the buy
1:27:07
town. No, the Mayfair this week. What's
1:27:10
the double bill? I
1:27:12
can't remember. I'm going. Oh, I
1:27:14
probably work. But my roommate asked
1:27:16
me to go watch The Wizard
1:27:18
of Oz. Yeah. I
1:27:21
said I'm not going to. It's going to be two
1:27:23
guys and all these kids, but I maybe wouldn't because
1:27:25
I've never seen it on the big screen. You've seen
1:27:27
a hundred. Oh, yeah. That's the beauty of the Mayfair
1:27:29
is that you might catch a film. You never got
1:27:31
I if I wasn't, if I wasn't at the. You
1:27:33
can wear your Glinda costume club this week. I would
1:27:35
be going to true romance because I really liked it.
1:27:38
What else you got? Come on. Did
1:27:41
you see they live? They
1:27:43
live. No, the movie with the zombies
1:27:45
where they went where Roddy Roddie Piper wears
1:27:47
the glasses so you can see the
1:27:50
aliens or whatever. You've never seen that. No.
1:27:52
Oh, dude. That is like one of
1:27:54
the camp. Well, it has Roddy Roddie Piper.
1:27:56
I was going to say, yeah, but
1:27:58
that could that could. be like a resurgence.
1:28:01
think it's like the 90s or
1:28:03
something. It's it's a really
1:28:05
campy movie. Did you guys see
1:28:07
Bar Fly? With
1:28:09
making your work. That's what's his
1:28:12
name? The poet Charles because Charles
1:28:14
because well, they talked about it,
1:28:16
but it's it's also a very.
1:28:20
There's actually a book written by leaving
1:28:22
Las Vegas feel to it. Oh,
1:28:24
yeah, it's dark. I never saw
1:28:26
Bar Fly. OK, know, Bukowski,
1:28:28
though. Of course. Yeah, was
1:28:30
Bender's favorite author. So I think Bar
1:28:33
Fly was actually like a short story he
1:28:35
wrote or something. Woody Harrelson
1:28:37
was a no country for old men. Let's
1:28:39
do it. Game.
1:29:03
Come on, take it away, baby. It's the
1:29:05
movie game where Matt signed and go ahead
1:29:07
to find out what your mere year movie
1:29:09
came out, how much it cost to make
1:29:11
and how much it made the box office.
1:29:13
One of my top 10 films of all time.
1:29:16
This week, we're just throwing it all around
1:29:19
because it worth a lot of movies that
1:29:21
Felipe and Joe talked about. I didn't write
1:29:23
them down as much as I thought I
1:29:25
did. But I feel like Felipe
1:29:27
is sort of like the Hispanic Brian.
1:29:33
Feet don't fail me now. Brian Simpson. Feet
1:29:36
don't fail me now. Yeah,
1:29:39
I guess he's kind of, I guess. This
1:29:42
guy just feels like the ultimate pothead. This guy might be the
1:29:44
guy I'd want to get high with the most. I'll
1:29:47
just throw that out there. Way better
1:29:49
than Justin Trudeau. I guess it was off.
1:29:54
So I'm to have a year here. Yeah,
1:29:56
I have a year. What year did you
1:29:58
say? 2010. I said 06. 2007
1:30:01
oh fucker that was the first
1:30:04
thing I had written down and
1:30:06
I said no it's got to
1:30:08
be the year before what a
1:30:10
dumb but I thought it was
1:30:12
if you said 2015 I would
1:30:14
be so crafty what a shithead
1:30:16
well I went 37 million and
1:30:18
192 I said 35 and 220
1:30:20
that's too fucking close man too
1:30:22
high though budget 25 million oh
1:30:24
are you still right there box
1:30:26
office a hundred and seventy one
1:30:28
point six oh I'm pretty fucking
1:30:30
close 192 yeah I was a
1:30:32
little off but whatever not bad
1:30:34
good work Simon good work good
1:30:36
work all around and that's the
1:30:38
movie game brought to you by
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Pfizer who's I wish to I
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would I'd take that Pfizer I
1:30:44
didn't tell you I would tell
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yes they reached out to me
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personally I have I have a
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direct link I thought it was
1:30:52
interesting when they were talking about
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Lyme disease back to or was
1:30:56
that the one of the deer
1:30:58
that's the one with the deer
1:31:00
ticks ticks not no no that's
1:31:02
it's chronic wasting disease that's the
1:31:04
deer yeah no no take deers
1:31:06
get a lot of ticks they
1:31:08
do as well but they carry
1:31:10
Lyme disease I understand but dogs
1:31:12
humans can get Lyme disease as
1:31:14
well but I think the one
1:31:16
thing just here you can eat
1:31:18
the meat of a sick animal
1:31:20
well you should I think it
1:31:22
was the chronic wasting disease is
1:31:24
the one you're talking about you
1:31:26
could you shouldn't obviously but they
1:31:28
were saying that they would shoot
1:31:30
them so they don't since interact
1:31:32
so like social distancing yeah you
1:31:34
apply it but they're not making
1:31:36
the deer wear masks or anything
1:31:38
well that maybe they were shooting
1:31:40
them in the head and then
1:31:42
I think Joe should put a
1:31:44
metorium on the motor and more
1:31:46
moratorium first off in six years
1:31:48
he's spoken about Mr. Hands a
1:31:50
lot and listen I'm kind of
1:31:52
okay with that but I think
1:31:54
it should be retired fucking horses
1:31:56
you're okay with that what I
1:31:58
mean rather he didn't, but to
1:32:00
play the clip this time, dude,
1:32:03
I didn't need, I didn't. Yeah. It
1:32:06
was really discipline. I was really bummed
1:32:08
out. Like it was four in the
1:32:10
morning. I was really bummed
1:32:12
out. Everyone was really bummed out. was really
1:32:14
bummed out. like, I didn't need this. Be
1:32:16
it resolved. I'm a moratorium on Mr. Hands.
1:32:18
If you don't know, you better ask somebody,
1:32:20
but we're not going to do it. If
1:32:22
you don't know, thank your lucky stars. Like,
1:32:25
dude, what's he going to play two girls, one cup
1:32:27
again this week and let make us listen to that. Like,
1:32:29
there's no need for this. We're adults here. This
1:32:32
isn't 20 or four. you ever
1:32:34
seen the movie, Human Centipede? No,
1:32:37
no, thank God. you? Yes. And I
1:32:39
saw the recreation of it today with the
1:32:41
babies. Yeah. I
1:32:44
give it a two. Philippe
1:32:47
Esparaza. I guess
1:32:50
I'll give him a two because it's
1:32:52
not that I dislike any of the
1:32:54
guests this week. I just
1:32:56
disliked the week. You know, this
1:32:58
one gets a one. I'll
1:33:00
give it a two, two, two. I'm sticking with
1:33:02
two. I
1:33:04
have to maintain my negative point two five rating
1:33:07
and so we literally just gave him 20 minutes.
1:33:09
I love that. I love that. The only reason
1:33:11
we're cutting the short today gang is I had
1:33:13
a baby shower. Normally we record at one. It's
1:33:16
fucking it's late. Sounds weird
1:33:18
when you say that. I like you were
1:33:20
having a shower with a bunch of babies. Yeah,
1:33:23
I mean, listen, it's weird because we're three guys.
1:33:25
We shouldn't have been anywhere near it. We shouldn't
1:33:27
have been involved. I was having a baby shower
1:33:29
when women have a baby shower, you know exactly
1:33:31
what they're talking about. Yeah, I would have preferred
1:33:33
it was that. But I think Mary in her
1:33:35
defense didn't want that. so she was like, if
1:33:37
we just bring a bunch of people together, it
1:33:39
doesn't have to be so girly and stupid. I
1:33:41
get that. They don't have to like play pin
1:33:43
the tail on the. That's exactly what she was
1:33:46
trying to avoid. Yeah. Anyway,
1:33:48
go ahead. What do they pin the tail on
1:33:50
at a baby shower? The woman, I think.
1:33:52
Isn't that it? You put it on her belly.
1:33:54
Do you put a dick on the guy?
1:33:56
I don't know. The guys aren't there. I know
1:33:58
it's a cut out of you and they're
1:34:00
like all. going around sticking balls on to... You
1:34:02
talking about a wedding shower or something? Not
1:34:04
a baby shower. I digress. 2275
1:34:07
Magnus Carlson. I
1:34:09
was trying to make a joke. I
1:34:11
wasn't actually insinuating that they were gonna put
1:34:13
balls on. Right away I
1:34:15
wanna say this. This is weird. So he's like,
1:34:18
I think this guy was cheating because I've played
1:34:20
him before and he was playing too well. But
1:34:22
I have no evidence. I have no evidence and
1:34:24
I don't think he had a butt plug in.
1:34:26
And then Joe presses him on a little bit
1:34:28
and he's like, well... But if you
1:34:30
have no proof, like no evidence, you just... No,
1:34:32
he said the internet got this. It was not
1:34:34
me. I do not come out and say
1:34:36
anything, he's cheating. No, he never
1:34:38
got that far because he said we
1:34:40
have a documentary coming out and I
1:34:42
can't really talk about it. So you'll
1:34:44
get your answers soon enough. He just
1:34:46
didn't wanna... It was a buy my
1:34:48
book type of scenario, you know? I
1:34:50
guess here's my problem. Is like, if
1:34:53
you are a high level chess player and
1:34:55
I get it that there's levels to this shit.
1:34:57
So like, Magnus Carlson could be up here
1:34:59
and you could be up here, but the gap
1:35:01
there could be massive. I understand that. You
1:35:04
might just have that day, right?
1:35:06
Like this isn't me showing up at
1:35:08
the basketball court and all of
1:35:10
a sudden slam dunking on a six
1:35:12
foot eight black dude, you know
1:35:14
what I mean? This isn't some miracle.
1:35:17
This is like a potentially a somewhat high level
1:35:19
player who just had his day and he
1:35:21
seems to really have it in his. And again,
1:35:23
this guy might have cheated. I don't know. But
1:35:26
isn't that possible? Like poker,
1:35:28
poker is kind of a good example of
1:35:30
like... Yeah, when an amateur wins. And I get
1:35:32
it. There is a lot of luck involved
1:35:34
in poker versus chess. I understand that. There's far
1:35:36
more luck. Yeah, but just because
1:35:38
Matt Moneymaker won the World Series of Poker,
1:35:40
it doesn't mean he cheated. That's what
1:35:42
I'm saying. That's my point. No, I agree
1:35:44
with you. Like if this guy had
1:35:47
been like, I genuinely think he had the
1:35:49
butt plug in or there was some
1:35:51
sort of earpiece that I picked Well no,
1:35:53
he must have genuinely thought he was
1:35:55
cheating because they're making a documentary on it.
1:35:57
You're not making a six part documentary
1:35:59
based on a feeling. Based on the way
1:36:01
he played which I thought was really
1:36:03
interesting. It's like almost a signature, but what
1:36:05
do you mean? There are so many
1:36:07
different Gate, there's so much
1:36:10
different game theory to chess like you can
1:36:12
go out and play like you you
1:36:14
can also go out and play Somebody else
1:36:16
and he said that guy called in
1:36:18
and said are you this guy? He was
1:36:20
playing a bunch of anonymous chess and
1:36:22
the guy said and you're this guy this
1:36:24
guy this guy as well No, but
1:36:26
I'm saying that he was playing his game
1:36:28
He was just calling himself something else
1:36:30
I'm saying like you can go out and
1:36:32
use the Kasparov system to play chess
1:36:34
Yeah, when you're good enough, you can use
1:36:36
other people's fucking like I got what
1:36:38
come on This guy would recognize that didn't
1:36:40
recognize it. So thought he was cheating,
1:36:42
but I had no evidence of it at
1:36:44
all But here's the weird thing is
1:36:46
he also see this is what this is
1:36:48
what I found interesting is later on
1:36:50
He was talking about Woody Harrelson and how
1:36:52
Woody Harrelson had used his own opening
1:36:54
on him But reversed and now he had
1:36:56
never he had never processed that and
1:36:58
he was like I'd never processed it because
1:37:01
It's not something that someone at my level
1:37:03
would do and so there's almost a
1:37:05
part of that too We're like it's like
1:37:07
you are actually potentially that much better
1:37:09
than this Neiman guy But you're missing the
1:37:11
obvious because it's too obvious That's exactly
1:37:13
it and this guy just beat you on
1:37:15
your day because again and it's weird
1:37:17
He's like I also show up late because
1:37:20
I'm pretty lazy and don't really care
1:37:22
about this game Well, that's what it is.
1:37:24
He's a slack stoner chess On the
1:37:26
surface level. Hmm. This is the first podcast
1:37:28
in the history Joe Rogan that stuck
1:37:30
to one topic and one topic only Oh,
1:37:32
good point. Oh good point because he's
1:37:34
not great. I would not want to have
1:37:36
a beer with this guy Well, they
1:37:38
spoke absolutely not spoke about golf just because
1:37:40
it Tony got a word and edgewise
1:37:42
and I couldn't believe how Opposite
1:37:44
I felt to what Tony was
1:37:46
saying because I was an avid golfer
1:37:48
And I never felt even when
1:37:50
I golfed well I felt I would
1:37:52
only think about the thing the
1:37:54
putts that I missed and how I
1:37:56
could have turned that 85
1:37:58
into an eight if I had just fucking
1:38:01
buckled down on those two holes and
1:38:03
when I had a bad game Like
1:38:05
if I had a gun in my
1:38:07
car, we wouldn't be having this conversation. It
1:38:10
is not it's not Golf is
1:38:12
so much fun. Hold on. It's through
1:38:14
attrition. I think you were golfing
1:38:16
around your life I think you're also
1:38:18
forgetting too that everyone's different like
1:38:20
your disposition and I don't mean this
1:38:22
is oh No, no, but what
1:38:24
Tony said was there isn't a person
1:38:26
who goes out there. Oh, yeah,
1:38:28
okay? He was making these rationalization based
1:38:30
on him. his experience and I
1:38:32
just think you were saying that's not
1:38:34
the experience I lived. Yeah, when
1:38:36
you can golf every single day It's
1:38:40
a lot different than guys who go out
1:38:42
once a week and like there's so much pressure
1:38:44
on that You know what? I mean that
1:38:46
was like part of it is like you only
1:38:49
get to golf once or twice a week
1:38:51
or whatever it is But he's golfing every day.
1:38:53
He's probably going twice a day That's his
1:38:55
point Simon's point is like I will hit the
1:38:57
ball a hundred times in maybe a one
1:38:59
or two weeks span Whereas this guy's gonna hit
1:39:01
the ball If you could if
1:39:03
you you had to golf around like
1:39:06
yes, yeah No, I understand well No, that's
1:39:08
what it just seems to me like
1:39:10
another rich person Telling us how rich people
1:39:12
do things and that's not how though
1:39:14
it is for the rest of us Well,
1:39:16
I'm gonna golf this summer by the
1:39:18
way I'm doing it going out there and
1:39:20
Joe for sure would get hope so
1:39:22
you pick the time when you have absolutely
1:39:24
no time Coming to take up golf.
1:39:26
Yeah, nice try pal. You're gonna disappear for
1:39:28
four hours from your newborn child I
1:39:30
think I think the coolest thing from is
1:39:32
when he said He
1:39:34
didn't care much for chess Till
1:39:37
he wanted to be his sister As
1:39:40
a competitive thing and she didn't even
1:39:42
care, but He was at
1:39:44
the right age and that's a diff
1:39:46
interesting dynamic if you go into all
1:39:48
the people who are successful I agree
1:39:50
being a woman should always be Having
1:39:52
an older I
1:39:55
did want to get lost but I thought that
1:39:57
was very telling and then he talked about there's
1:39:59
a three year old. Yeah, it
1:40:01
was already I don't understand that.
1:40:03
Now back to the how can you
1:40:06
be a professional chess player and
1:40:08
lose to a three year old and
1:40:10
a not want to just immediately
1:40:12
get a gun gun in the
1:40:14
back of my throat. Like you would want
1:40:16
to just throttle that child. This is
1:40:18
the most interesting. would that child's
1:40:20
probably been beat up like four
1:40:22
or five times already, which I
1:40:24
think that kid should have come
1:40:26
up because we do talk about
1:40:28
ancient civilizations. And
1:40:30
grandma was telling me
1:40:32
that the church was always
1:40:34
against chess. Yeah.
1:40:38
Why? Well, exactly why. And
1:40:40
I thought maybe that's because it helps create a
1:40:42
logical thinking and then you pay enough chess, you might
1:40:44
be able to go, you know, some of this
1:40:46
God shit bullshit. So I
1:40:48
mean, you can also go back and find
1:40:50
articles written about how chess, like it sounds
1:40:52
like the same articles they write about video
1:40:54
games and TV and rock and roll. they
1:40:56
were like, this will rot the minds of
1:40:58
kids. They will spend their they will waste
1:41:00
their days away playing chess and it will
1:41:02
be a terrible pastime. I can see it
1:41:04
being like a Cold War thing because of
1:41:06
the Russians, you know what I mean? Where
1:41:08
we're just like, they're good at chess. So
1:41:10
chess is terrible. But upon some research, the
1:41:12
exact origins of chess are unclear. But
1:41:15
it is widely believed to have
1:41:17
been invented in India around the sixth
1:41:19
century AD. Interesting. The game
1:41:21
involved from an earlier Indian strategy
1:41:23
called chaturanga, which was played on
1:41:25
an eight by eight board and
1:41:27
featured pieces representing
1:41:29
infantry, cavalry, elephants and chariots, similar
1:41:31
to modern ponds, knights, bishops and
1:41:33
rooks. Because that's the whole battle
1:41:35
thing. You think it's something to
1:41:37
do with kings. But it
1:41:40
was there were some people were anti.
1:41:42
was it's the game that said that the
1:41:44
test of time. Do you know how
1:41:46
to play or have you ever looked into
1:41:48
how to play go? No, because
1:41:50
that really is the oldest game, right?
1:41:52
Go has been around very easy game.
1:41:54
No, the very not to be a
1:41:56
master at this is what I'm saying.
1:41:59
is the oldest game I said did
1:42:01
I say the oldest one of the
1:42:03
old rules simple rules maybe only have
1:42:05
four moves and go you can do
1:42:07
each time you have to jump here
1:42:09
yeah you know what I mean the
1:42:11
same thing with I don't know I've
1:42:13
never played go I've never looked at
1:42:15
you know you've played chess before I
1:42:17
haven't played on can only go to
1:42:20
the first time the one yeah this
1:42:22
can only go and go yeah the
1:42:24
rules make the game right because if
1:42:26
you do whatever you want to smash
1:42:28
the clean off I win who's are
1:42:30
the first to be aggressive I mean
1:42:32
the rules make the game of every
1:42:34
game but then this guy can play
1:42:36
this game with 10 people at the
1:42:38
same time that's with no board and
1:42:40
that's the blind right blindfolded yeah but
1:42:43
just like when you see the movie
1:42:45
there's two guys in cells and they're
1:42:47
playing this game do you want to
1:42:49
hear people like pawn to rook for
1:42:51
I'm like a guy you lost me
1:42:53
I'm out I have no idea there's
1:42:55
no way I can memorize like which
1:42:57
one's the wrong they've they or they've
1:42:59
done it in a movie where they
1:43:01
haven't seen each other two years yeah
1:43:03
through the mail yeah on this move
1:43:06
this remembering categorizing and I'm Tony loves
1:43:08
the brain and like no sloppy top
1:43:10
but people who excel at stuff and
1:43:12
I think it was right there to
1:43:14
see what this guy was ticking but
1:43:16
you think Tony is like that Tony
1:43:18
loves successful people and what goes on
1:43:20
their head how he like they were
1:43:22
asking is there a game ship and
1:43:24
trying to get in people's head you
1:43:26
would in MMA and he said I
1:43:29
really don't think so the only thing
1:43:31
that throws you off is if someone's
1:43:33
playing in a way that you think
1:43:35
they may be cheating which of course
1:43:37
you do I remember the one time
1:43:39
he got up and left and he
1:43:41
was going to take a shit yeah
1:43:43
but you know we hear about these
1:43:45
stories with him because he has seemed
1:43:47
like the bad boy of chess if
1:43:50
there wasn't but he just seems like
1:43:52
yeah the best is him when he's
1:43:54
like eight playing Kasparov and he looks
1:43:56
so bored and frustrated because Kasparov is
1:43:58
like deep in the tank for every
1:44:00
move maximum clock Slowly hitting it. Magnus
1:44:02
Carlson standing up. He looks so bummed.
1:44:04
I Don't mind person. I haven't seen
1:44:06
any videos of Magnus Carlson ever. You're
1:44:08
lucky. It's not it hasn't infested your
1:44:10
fucking yeah No, and he said there's
1:44:13
no he said there's no grandmaster whose
1:44:15
child is a grandmaster. I Could be
1:44:17
mistaken. I thought there was a girl
1:44:19
on YouTube who her mom is a
1:44:21
grandmaster That
1:44:24
was the girl from the gorge On
1:44:31
his purpose is to inspire people to
1:44:33
play chess Because
1:44:36
like who makes Can
1:44:38
anyone make a chessboard and sell it that
1:44:40
there's no copyright or Yes, anybody can
1:44:42
make a chessboard and sell it. Is that
1:44:44
not such an arrogant thing to say
1:44:46
though Like what did I say? That's not
1:44:48
you him. Oh just the thought of
1:44:50
like I think it's my job to keep
1:44:52
this 2000 year old game alive potentially
1:44:54
five thousand year old game alive. no
1:44:59
Way why is why are we talking to
1:45:01
you right now? It's not going anywhere You
1:45:04
want people like Queen's Gambit brought all this
1:45:06
dude chess has been around it's gonna stay But
1:45:08
I think the AI Maybe that's an
1:45:11
interest what he thought about it if
1:45:13
it but it just can just beat
1:45:15
you a chess And it actually knows
1:45:17
who probably remember God said saying that
1:45:19
if you yeah, he probably knows who
1:45:21
it's playing Yeah, it's like guys knows
1:45:23
who's going to win But that's dumb
1:45:25
because like when I play a video
1:45:27
game I know unequivocally that if if
1:45:29
it turned the AI up to ten
1:45:31
or a hundred that it would crush
1:45:33
me Time and time again. There's no
1:45:35
doubt in my mind That's why we
1:45:37
play against each other because I'm like
1:45:39
this Korean kid will also crush me
1:45:42
But I have a chance and right
1:45:44
Like if we play if I if I
1:45:46
sat you down to play FIFA right
1:45:49
now against the computer on super all -star
1:45:51
difficulty You get smashed, right? Whereas if you
1:45:53
played me who hasn't played in fucking
1:45:55
seven years The problem with the
1:45:57
video games just side note was always that
1:45:59
media was too easy, but hard was way
1:46:01
too hard. Yeah. For the AI, right? Yeah,
1:46:03
you really get a happy medium. In a
1:46:05
first person shooter, they couldn't hit you at
1:46:07
all on medium, and then you put it
1:46:09
on hard and headshot, you're dead. So then
1:46:11
you have to go back to medium and
1:46:14
just be like a king. Yeah. Of the
1:46:16
dummies. Well, that's, that's gonna
1:46:18
be the big competition now to chess,
1:46:20
I guess, but they'll just have chess
1:46:22
in it is GTA 6. They'll
1:46:24
have chess in GTA 6? Sure.
1:46:26
Well, Aiden Ross was on milk and
1:46:28
he said he's going to have
1:46:30
his own server in GTA with his
1:46:32
own coin. I know this sounds
1:46:34
sketchy, but he's saying you will be
1:46:37
able to make money in the
1:46:39
server. That already exists. There's nothing new
1:46:41
there. It sounds like a crypto
1:46:43
egg thing. If I kill you, you
1:46:45
lose everything. You can cash out.
1:46:47
If Aiden Ross kills you or you
1:46:49
kill. He's gonna make his own
1:46:51
sort of world where you can money.
1:46:53
So what does that mean? How
1:46:55
does that work? So you go play
1:46:57
GTA on his account? So
1:47:00
one of the Sidemen, Vic, the
1:47:02
Indian one. Yeah, I know him.
1:47:04
Yeah. He, uh, I
1:47:07
saw him in an interview where the guy asked
1:47:09
me was like, how much money did you
1:47:11
make off Minecraft servers? Like
1:47:13
all told. And he was like, Oh,
1:47:15
I think he's like over the years,
1:47:17
like 5 million. Yeah, he's the second
1:47:19
richest Sidemen. Yeah, behind KSI. Behind KSI.
1:47:21
But the point is got prime money.
1:47:23
There's a couple ways to do it.
1:47:25
What Kamara's talking about is different, but
1:47:27
a lot of people will just like,
1:47:29
uh, you rent servers. Like right now,
1:47:31
for example, GTA 13 years later, still
1:47:33
has people with servers online. Yeah, I
1:47:35
just why? Why would you participate in
1:47:37
somebody's server? Well, okay, so there's one,
1:47:39
for example, like money. I forget the
1:47:41
name of it, but it's so fucking
1:47:44
interactive, Simon. So you either log in
1:47:46
as a cop or a robber. have
1:47:48
to be, first of all, you have
1:47:50
to be approved. So like, if you
1:47:52
jump in this thing and you fuck
1:47:54
around, you're out and you're never coming
1:47:56
back. There's no like, so if
1:47:58
you play a cop, you literally drive around. as
1:48:00
a cop and you try to be the cop
1:48:02
yeah and dude you book people in you like
1:48:04
instead of playing the AI you're playing like real
1:48:06
life cops there's a hundred there's a hundred real
1:48:08
people on the map 50 of them are robbers
1:48:10
and 50 of them are cops and when they're
1:48:12
chasing someone they're like on the mic together like
1:48:14
he's on the fucking so that's what I'm saying
1:48:17
is like so those guys will pay like you
1:48:19
know five or ten bucks a month for access
1:48:21
to the server and whatever they want to jump
1:48:23
in they jump in and whoever's running the server
1:48:25
they pay a server fee where they have their
1:48:27
own server running and then they collect money from
1:48:29
so what Kamar is saying is like he's saying
1:48:31
he's gonna have a token attached to the server
1:48:33
so I'm not sure what that means well
1:48:35
okay you can do that a million ways
1:48:38
you could you could just so they're gonna pay
1:48:40
you and his token is that the idea
1:48:42
I mean what you could do is you could
1:48:44
just cash out I don't know like I'd
1:48:46
GTA hasn't been released yet so maybe there's something
1:48:48
within the game that allows you to do
1:48:50
that or you could just set up your own
1:48:52
bullshit cryptocurrency but this is just one guy
1:48:54
you can buy crypto through the game like your
1:48:56
character can buy crypto and you're think on
1:48:58
his server I mean keep in mind anyone if
1:49:00
you get a PlayStation could get into it
1:49:03
in the last game one of the big things
1:49:05
was on your phone you could access the
1:49:07
stock market like
1:49:09
so when you play GTA 5
1:49:11
your character could pull out your phone
1:49:13
and you could access the stock
1:49:15
market and you could buy stocks in
1:49:17
like 15 20 companies whatever for
1:49:19
your character yeah and the idea was
1:49:21
this you
1:49:23
you ran missions that you knew
1:49:25
we're gonna affect certain companies
1:49:28
so you would go and collect
1:49:30
all your money and then you'd go run
1:49:32
this mission where it's like you know it's gonna
1:49:34
shoot this company you buy Pfizer stock and
1:49:36
then you start a pandemic precisely yeah well sure
1:49:38
that's I mean yeah and it'd be stupid
1:49:40
if like you were gonna make this crazy video
1:49:42
game we'll have no crypto component to the
1:49:44
whatsoever yeah so what kamara saying is it's so
1:49:46
realistic that they were most likely be like
1:49:49
some sort of I mean I'm sure there'll be
1:49:51
a mission where like you get a million
1:49:53
in crypto or something like that who and what
1:49:55
I think kamara saying is the whole online
1:49:57
thing will revolve around but if Aiden kills you
1:49:59
you lose every So you are gambling but
1:50:01
let me give you an example Simon So
1:50:05
given that the last game ran for
1:50:07
13 years online and still has people playing
1:50:09
there is a world where rock star
1:50:12
could create a limited number of A cryptocurrency
1:50:14
not even limited They could say a
1:50:16
trillion right and each one's worth a penny
1:50:18
and it always stay at a penny
1:50:20
But that's how you interact on the game
1:50:22
you go on to the market and
1:50:24
again It could fluctuate it could go you
1:50:26
could buy like right now you could
1:50:28
go and buy, you know I don't know
1:50:31
a thousand dollars worth of GTA crypto.
1:50:33
There'll be tons of scammers. Of course This
1:50:36
is gonna be the best thing
1:50:38
ever But your
1:50:40
mate your brain just starts to go out
1:50:42
and then things like chess like where does
1:50:44
it come in someone's life? Only
1:50:46
they hear about Magnus Carlson as an
1:50:48
inspiration or their sister like Simon. I'm not
1:50:50
gonna lie I was thinking about it.
1:50:52
I was like when GTA drops. I was
1:50:54
thinking about doing Like just
1:50:57
trying it out like I know I'm 44
1:50:59
42 whatever the fuck I am but Doing
1:51:01
like a character and streaming two hours a night
1:51:03
So like I'd be like a cop like I
1:51:05
dress up like a cop every night. I'd
1:51:08
be like officer Floyd whatever I think
1:51:10
you just sounds like a cop. Yeah,
1:51:12
I think you just feel stupid Well
1:51:14
again, it was like we have to battle through
1:51:16
yeah Well, it's like that guy today that we saw
1:51:18
with the fucking The GoPro on
1:51:21
his head doing all that
1:51:23
shit like he looked ridiculous big
1:51:25
skill that I've discovered is
1:51:27
just talking to nothing And knowing
1:51:29
someone's listening chat. No knowing
1:51:31
that no one's listening at first
1:51:33
is the problem So you're
1:51:35
talking to no one. Yeah, but
1:51:37
you talk you talk as
1:51:39
if Someone is
1:51:41
listening and no one knows
1:51:43
anything That's the
1:51:45
other thing I think that is
1:51:47
a notable thing you're over descriptive
1:51:49
you Of course, we know
1:51:51
that but someone doesn't know that it's always
1:51:54
for kids who do not know everything Always
1:51:56
I mean I think that makes sense, right?
1:51:59
The weirdest thing to me about streamers is
1:52:01
like if you go into a stream and
1:52:03
the guys got 50 people watching And you
1:52:05
go in the chat and you say some
1:52:07
funny shit There's a good chance that he
1:52:09
sees that and maybe reacts to it or
1:52:11
is like all Floyd's you know what I
1:52:13
mean Aiden Ross like if you type something
1:52:15
in that chat, dude, it's fucking He's
1:52:19
getting paid for everyone that goes in. Yeah,
1:52:21
I know the super check Of course, I
1:52:23
know I know but those go by so
1:52:25
fast So you're hoping that somebody's it nobody
1:52:27
say it's just going to buy it like
1:52:29
fucking mock speed I do miss the era
1:52:31
where they had the text to chat. That
1:52:33
was like one of my favorite fucking They
1:52:35
all turned it off because people started spamming
1:52:37
it But that was the best when it
1:52:39
was like clog up their feed. Well, so
1:52:41
the idea was that you would pay $5
1:52:44
and You're so Simon you pay five bucks
1:52:46
and whatever you texted would be read out
1:52:48
So they didn't have a choice. They couldn't
1:52:50
miss it. This voice would be like Aiden
1:52:53
Ross's mom is so fat that there's a
1:52:55
you know what I mean, and I've seen
1:52:57
some yeah And then people started spamming it
1:52:59
where they would just hit L 75 Fucking
1:53:01
times and the text to chat would be
1:53:03
like a la la la la la la la.
1:53:05
It was fucking annoying as shit Why am
1:53:07
I 40 and still watching this garbage? It's
1:53:10
just because I think you're
1:53:12
we are mesmerized by the
1:53:15
Shameless just talking to no one and
1:53:17
it working sort of thing because
1:53:19
you're Thing is when you see anyone
1:53:22
doing like but they're not doing
1:53:24
anything But then you realize how much
1:53:26
they do It's not something
1:53:28
you'd want to do like you
1:53:30
what we're saying that guy who was
1:53:32
filming outside the cafe. Yeah, and James
1:53:36
called you said if they give you a
1:53:38
million dollars like I guess I would be but
1:53:40
what about if you were just following me Could
1:53:43
you do that be someone's because of
1:53:45
long as I have a Video that actually
1:53:47
seems kind of fun. Here's the thing
1:53:49
for a day Here's the thing with events
1:53:52
how interested your life is Well, you're
1:53:54
not you're filming someone your life doesn't matter.
1:53:56
I don't want you to take this
1:53:58
the wrong No, no, I'm saying it depends
1:54:00
how interesting your life. Yeah, yeah here
1:54:02
This is because I'm watching you walk around
1:54:04
if you're going out and fucking like
1:54:06
girls all the time and getting in fights
1:54:08
I mean, I'm tuned in you know.
1:54:11
Well, no, this is what I was gonna
1:54:13
say like if some Like good
1:54:15
-looking 22 year old gentleman came out to me
1:54:17
and was like you have some skills with a camera
1:54:19
And you know how to edit do you want
1:54:21
to start following me around? I have a minor YouTube
1:54:23
presence that I'm trying to build I would think
1:54:25
about it for sure Yeah, and again the reason
1:54:27
is is because like that's that could be your meal
1:54:29
ticket But if you're 20 you'd be doing it.
1:54:31
Oh if I was 20 I'd a hundred percent
1:54:33
be doing it a hundred percent Raring
1:54:36
the fucking thing I have it on my
1:54:38
head. Yeah a hundred percent. We just
1:54:40
missed a hundred percent But I mean Magnus
1:54:42
is only 34 so he's got a
1:54:44
long way to live fuck this guy This
1:54:46
was one of the most boring episodes
1:54:48
ever in the history one of the most
1:54:50
focused episodes though I will give that
1:54:52
to no hunting no MMA no cancel culture.
1:54:54
No USC totally and yet it was
1:54:57
still absolute trash No, no, but hear me
1:54:59
out if If
1:55:01
you're into chess which you're not and
1:55:03
I'm not this is actually the dream
1:55:05
because like come on saying if this
1:55:07
had been Lou Elizondo and He only
1:55:09
talked about he just stuck 100 %
1:55:11
to aliens and at no point veered
1:55:13
off You'd be ecstatic. Well if Lou
1:55:15
Elizondo comes on and talks about COVID.
1:55:17
I quit this podcast That's
1:55:20
symbol. That's why I call unicorn. Oh,
1:55:22
I forgot to mention earlier. There was
1:55:24
a great part where Joe was bragging
1:55:26
about how McCullough
1:55:29
know whoever one of the
1:55:31
COVID guys was his most
1:55:33
popular downloaded episode ever and He's
1:55:35
like yeah, we got like 125 million and
1:55:37
then you just hear Jamie in the back and
1:55:39
go actually Was
1:55:42
the most popular space that brought
1:55:44
me a little bit of which we
1:55:46
take for granted here That
1:55:48
we know what people really want
1:55:50
and that's Bob Lazier, I forgot
1:55:52
to say They did
1:55:54
talk a little bit a
1:55:56
bit, but I remember specifically when
1:55:58
Malone was on said,
1:56:00
if one thing he said was true, there's
1:56:02
gonna be a world to her to Joe
1:56:05
and the next day there was a world
1:56:07
to her that's on Joe, on Joe, on
1:56:09
Joe, I give it a, I give it
1:56:11
a three. Um,
1:56:14
who are this is Carlton. Yeah.
1:56:16
It's two hours. It's two hours. No.
1:56:19
Tony wanted to be there and then was like,
1:56:21
I fucked up. Oh, one and a half. Oh,
1:56:23
he fucked up. One and a half. This is
1:56:25
really what just. Yeah.
1:56:27
For me. Yeah. So I'm going to go
1:56:29
with zero. Oh, wow. Well, I have to get
1:56:31
to that minus 2 .5. Yeah. Well, I think
1:56:33
you missed the boat there. All right, gang.
1:56:35
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