Episode 330 - Week of February 17th - 23rd

Episode 330 - Week of February 17th - 23rd

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Episode 330 - Week of February 17th - 23rd

Episode 330 - Week of February 17th - 23rd

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Floyd. Welcome

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Kamar. Welcome to the party. And Simon. Shut

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go. Go check Kamara. Come on down.

2:09

With the unherited but

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talented Jordan Wellwood. Untalented

2:15

but inherited? that what he said? I'm

2:17

trying to do some forward speech. Kamara,

2:20

you want to go over the

2:22

guest list so we can do what

2:24

we fucking do? I'd love to. I

2:26

think we all had a matrix moment

2:28

because 2274, Mike Baker in the house

2:31

to straighten everything out. It's a big

2:33

fucking surprise. Balled by 2275 Magnus Carlson. Who

2:36

invented chess? That's what I still am

2:38

wondering. 2276,

2:40

Philippe Asparaza and 2277

2:42

Woody Harrelson's in the

2:45

house finally after all

2:47

these years. God,

2:49

this week. Stunk. You

2:52

know, when you told me when when you texted me

2:54

Saturday and said Woody Harrelson, I was like, oh, incredible. Was

2:57

not literally might be the

2:59

worst week in the history

3:01

of the Joe Rogan podcast.

3:03

And we've had weeks where

3:05

it was like Hunter fucking

3:07

fitness. And yet somehow a

3:09

week with Woody Harrelson has ended

3:11

up just fucking bottoming the charts. Yeah,

3:14

felt like if you just read

3:16

the names out like it wouldn't. It's

3:18

not like the worst, you know.

3:20

Well, if you think Magnus Carlson is

3:22

like a Viking or something, you

3:24

know what I mean? You didn't know

3:26

the greatest chess player in the

3:28

world. That sounds interesting. The most interesting

3:30

thing about that guy was the

3:32

one thing he refused to talk about.

3:34

Yeah, yeah, the only thing that

3:37

made him interesting. I agree. But

3:41

again, on paper, I

3:43

mean, Simon, at least give Joe credit

3:45

that at least in that episode, he

3:47

brought up the thing right away as

3:49

opposed to just not talking about it. Period.

3:51

Yeah. OK. Fair enough. Right. Like four minutes in,

3:53

he was like, what happened with the guy

3:55

with the butt plug and Magnus was like, I

3:57

don't know, that was a fucking. in

4:00

your net chat rooms. But I can't talk about

4:02

it. You'll have to buy the book. Yeah, yeah, for

4:04

you. All right, what do you rate

4:06

it? a tough one. It's a fucking tough one.

4:08

It's gonna get a low rating. I'll tell you that.

4:12

I mean, it can't get

4:14

more than a 0 .25. That's

4:17

pretty low. That's pretty low. That's not that

4:19

low. Really, you give it a 0 .25? Do

4:21

we rate this on like, in terms

4:23

of my enjoyment of the week? Is that

4:25

what I'm doing? No, that's what amateur

4:28

does. No, I'm pretty

4:30

sure that is the scale. That's what I

4:32

do get. It's based on much did I

4:34

enjoy listening to this week? Then

4:36

I'm going negative 0 .25. Wow.

4:41

Yeah, I have to give this week a one.

4:43

Really didn't enjoy listening this week. can't

4:46

wait for this. Kamar, are

4:48

you gonna rate it? Yeah, I'll give it a one. There

4:50

you go. That's what I expected. That's

4:52

about right. This week was really

4:54

bad. No, just respect to

4:56

Joe. No, no. just the whole disrespect

4:58

to Joe. sure. Well, we'll get to

5:00

that, I guess, yeah. Pretty

5:02

glaring, yeah, sure. All

5:05

right, Kamar, fire it up. 2277,

5:07

Woody Harrelson, actor,

5:09

playwright, activist. So,

5:11

you can just start. Just start. Just

5:14

go. I know you want to go.

5:16

Cook. Well, I'm trying to like, change

5:18

my life and just live by love.

5:20

You know what I mean? How's that

5:22

going? Well, when you have fucking

5:24

podcasts like this, it makes it really

5:26

hard. Like, all I want to do

5:28

is say nice things about Woody Harrelson.

5:31

But I can't because they

5:33

never spoke about anything, even

5:36

remotely Woody Harrelson. So

5:39

can I ask you this, if they had spoken

5:41

about like his career, but not mentioned the JFK

5:43

stuff? Like if he, just hear me out. If

5:45

he had come on and been like, hey, listen,

5:47

I know you talk a lot about this. It's

5:49

kind of something I don't like to bring up.

5:51

You know what I mean? Like a Bill Burr.

5:53

Did Ted Danza really wear a toupee on Cheers?

5:55

There were unanswered questions that we could have got

5:57

to the bottom of. Natural. killers

6:00

the guy has done a true detective

6:02

like he's done some great fucking

6:04

work zombie land need I say more

6:06

indecent proposal he was the indeed

6:08

the guy who indecent proposal no that

6:10

was Robert Redford oh he was

6:12

the husband to me he was the

6:15

cock what about white man can't

6:17

jump oh what am i favorite incredible

6:19

you're being facetious but that was

6:21

one of my favorite movies growing up

6:23

vegetables that begin with the letter

6:25

q what makes me no liar that's

6:27

right she's on jeopardy i saw

6:29

the fucking movie what makes me no

6:32

liar is i did enjoy money

6:34

train which many people think was a

6:36

really bad money train i'm not

6:38

the one with Brad Pitt Wesley Snipes

6:40

what is money train i

6:44

don't think you've ever watched it i

6:46

think this is bit he did another

6:48

movie with Wesley train flips in the

6:50

station and yeah he yeah what's this

6:52

types and what he does it again

6:54

and it didn't it didn't they were

6:56

like the Jackie Chan and um he

6:58

described an action movie Chris Tucker he

7:00

described an action movie trope that's been

7:02

in 50 movies and then it's like

7:04

you know the movie he said he

7:06

said the the subway train turns over

7:08

on its side in the fight and

7:10

rolls through the station yeah okay he

7:13

said i love this movie and i

7:15

said oh really what's it about and

7:17

he's looked at me like i was

7:19

insane you know it's funny too typing

7:21

away on his computer what's really crazy

7:23

it's called money train you couldn't have

7:25

put some together you fucking 1995 action

7:27

comedy film starring Wesley Snipes Woody Harrelson

7:29

and Jennifer Lopez directed by Joseph Rubin

7:31

feels like this would have been a

7:33

good money it's about a train that

7:35

you know the movie follows two foster

7:37

brothers John Snipes and Charlie Harrelson who

7:39

work as transit cops in New York

7:41

City there we are struggling with gambling

7:43

debts hatches a risky plan to rob

7:45

the money train the heavily guarded subway

7:47

train i do remember i do remember

7:49

it all yes yes yes yes and

7:51

they were brothers and you're like you're

7:53

clearly not from the same mom and

7:55

it's just white man jumped but in

7:57

New York City this is with zero

7:59

Yeah, yeah, but all that being said,

8:01

this one's called white man can't get

8:03

him old Can't ride

8:05

trains Woody Harrelson 63 years old

8:07

looking good for himself. He's only

8:10

63 only 63 Okay, well, I'm

8:12

just thinking to myself like we're

8:14

I'm watching cheers as like a

8:16

13 year old boy And he's

8:18

already 63

8:20

make sense. I'm that makes math adds

8:22

up. Yeah. Yeah, my math isn't

8:24

good The worst is when the math

8:26

adds up to they were actually

8:28

the same age as you That's

8:32

a real problem. Yeah stop when

8:34

you were calling them geezers and you're

8:36

like whoa hold on a sec

8:38

That's me now like when they're like

8:40

LeBron James about to be 40.

8:42

I'm like that motherfucker was doing this

8:44

when I was damn Well, you're

8:46

having a baby. Yeah, and my youngest

8:48

is turning 22. Yeah, so what

8:50

does that even mean? What does that

8:52

even mean? It means

8:54

I'm old and your turn in the

8:56

corner gonna be old Yeah, I listened to

8:58

this episode a little bit sped up

9:01

because of Woody has a weird draw But

9:04

me and Simon were commenting that

9:06

it's hard to believe that the this

9:08

guy can snap into any of

9:10

the roles That we just listed off

9:12

of the movies. Yeah, it has

9:14

been to what a great actor he

9:16

is You like to

9:19

lie. What do you like

9:21

themselves? No, and don't don't

9:23

forget the one with the

9:25

Javier Bardem Oh, yeah, he

9:27

was in no country for old men

9:29

He's his role is his role is

9:31

so good that I almost wanted like

9:33

a whole other movie He's a very

9:35

small character. I know but he's very

9:37

good. Yeah, so amazing the cowboy Yeah,

9:39

Chad GPT and you're on your way,

9:41

but when when he did some specific

9:43

impressions of Presidents

9:45

and namely Jimmy Carter and Nixon

9:47

you saw him just dial in so

9:49

I mean that was the only performative thing

9:51

We saw he's got a movie that

9:54

comes out on February 28th. It Joe's like

9:56

your people made me watch that was

9:58

that was crazy Crazy.

10:00

Lied to me. Joe must have

10:02

really wanted him on the show because

10:04

Joe doesn't go out of his

10:06

way for anybody ever. was a prerequisite

10:08

of the interview. Also Joe makes

10:10

it sound like his life is so

10:12

difficult. Like I was forced to

10:14

go to a premiere of a film

10:16

for a movie star that wants

10:18

to be on my multi -billion dollar

10:20

podcast. He doesn't have enough time to

10:22

go to Egypt, Matt. Yeah, you're

10:24

right. I'm sorry. Now, Woody. He's

10:26

the most busy man in America.

10:28

It started off weird where Joe

10:31

was like, yeah, vaccines are poisonous

10:33

all day. And Woody was like,

10:35

whoa, whoa, whoa, no, no, no,

10:37

Joe, I'm talking about profiteering. that

10:39

is what everyone gripes about with

10:41

any of these things that at

10:43

the end day we find out

10:46

it's money. Yeah. Well,

10:48

the vaccine company's making the money

10:50

off the. Correct. Pandemic

10:52

the. And the more

10:55

money there is to made, more money

10:57

there is to be made the greasier there

10:59

seems to be people involved. And we

11:01

all get to a weird point. He mentioned

11:03

Lyme disease being a government thing. And

11:05

we had joked about not joked about it,

11:07

but we had mentioned that as like

11:09

a conspiracy theory along. But Joe was saying

11:11

it today, like it's a done fact.

11:13

Like that is how Lyme disease. Hold on.

11:15

That's how Joe talks now. No,

11:17

but I'm asking, like, is that a

11:19

that's like a fact? That's how Lyme disease

11:22

was started was through. No, I believe

11:24

I know it was started in Lyme, Connecticut.

11:26

Or Connecticut, believe it's Connecticut. I thought he

11:28

said New Jersey for some reason, or Long

11:30

Island. I thought it was Lyme, Connecticut. That's

11:32

why it's called Lyme. But an experiment that

11:34

got out of control or something went wrong. Was

11:37

it on Rogan where they were

11:39

talking about how things are named

11:41

after people? Like

11:43

Lyme disease, you know,

11:46

that's after Connecticut. don't think so, Simon.

11:50

Who are you talking to? you

11:52

mean? We had the pre -show

11:54

meeting. talked about FaceTime. It's Lyme, Connecticut.

11:56

Yeah, by the way, so it's Connecticut.

12:00

think Joe said something. Yeah, Lou Gehrig's

12:02

disease. It's not

12:04

actually called that though. It's not. No. That's

12:06

like a colloquialism. I think it's

12:08

ALS. That's pretty shitty that your claim

12:10

to fame is a colloquialism. He

12:13

doesn't even get the disease like. Well,

12:15

I mean, most people know

12:18

Lou Gehrig as a Yankee

12:20

legend. I was saying his

12:22

only claim to fame is I think

12:24

more people know him from Lou Gehrig's

12:26

disease than from the Yankees. Yeah. That's

12:28

interesting. mean, just your average person who

12:30

doesn't give a fuck about sports. Everybody

12:32

knows Lou Gehrig's disease. I

12:34

mean, listen, in your defense, like if 50 years

12:36

from now Lou Gehrig's disease is still around, then

12:38

it will have outlived anyone who you know, you're

12:41

going to be few and far between people are

12:43

going to remember Lou Gehrig the Yankee. I

12:47

didn't even know he was a Yankee, frankly.

12:49

Okay. So there you go. No, he played for Murderer's Row.

12:51

They won. They lost, what, games

12:53

that season or something I don't remember. So

12:57

they were singing the praise.

12:59

Just a sidebar for me. There's

13:02

a lot of criticism

13:04

of the glazing for Elon

13:06

from Joe. mean, no

13:08

one should glaze anyone as much

13:10

as they glaze. It's just I'm like,

13:14

I've heard Joe, I've heard Joe be

13:16

like, I would never get another man tattooed on

13:18

my body. Like, dude, said you let one come

13:20

on your back. Like, I don't get it. Sorry,

13:23

I didn't understand what you said.

13:25

You're saying that Joe's constantly glazing

13:27

you wrong, Joe. And

13:29

he's getting a lot of flak from

13:31

people or from us. Oh,

13:33

no, I left the

13:36

left left wing sphere.

13:39

Yeah, here comes a glazing. That's the

13:41

main criticism. That's my problem is that

13:43

I'm I don't like that the people

13:45

who are agreeing with me right now

13:47

are people like Elizabeth Warren. Do you

13:49

know what I mean? So like I

13:51

hold true to what I'm saying, I've

13:53

been saying it long before they were

13:55

saying it. But the fact that they're

13:57

saying it now is making me like

13:59

well hold on a sec here I

14:01

still don't like Elon but I don't

14:03

like something's amiss here's the problem here's

14:05

the problem you're okay with the okay

14:07

you're okay with it not being called

14:09

doge but them cleaning up their government

14:12

hundred P that's what you're okay with

14:14

I clean this one here's the thing

14:16

she's get to that with she's clearly

14:18

against that yeah and you know that

14:20

Elon Musk is a piece of shit

14:22

separate from yes you know that if

14:24

they put some fucking bookworm in charge

14:26

of this who really was not a

14:28

part of the system who didn't give

14:30

a shit the same way Elon does

14:32

but no one knew him you believe

14:34

that could get done the same a

14:36

hundred percent I just at the same

14:38

time hate that she's like the one

14:40

who's on my side you know be

14:42

on a different side she's just saying

14:44

it because she doesn't want him to

14:46

buck the go against Vance you know

14:48

have your own fucking thoughts well here's

14:50

the thing this is how I feel

14:52

I'm like I agree with them and

14:54

if I'm an American and I find

14:56

out that you're wasting seven trillion dollars

14:59

of year a year of my tax

15:01

money and Flint doesn't have clean water

15:03

I'd be fucking live it of course

15:05

I want to know that yeah I

15:07

want it to be cleaned up I

15:09

don't want Elon Musk involved yeah you

15:11

shouldn't have any clearance we said this

15:13

last week I don't need to rehash

15:15

go ahead with the pushback to that

15:17

is just who was running the president

15:19

the country the last four years I

15:21

don't understand how that's the pushback for

15:23

four years someone else is running the

15:25

country doing sing oh so it's okay

15:27

that Elon is none of it's okay

15:29

but it's it's the hypocrisy but but

15:31

back to RFK back to RFK how

15:33

about this in just in closing I

15:35

miss when I didn't know the shady

15:37

billionaire pulling the strings of the president

15:39

mm -hmm how about that mm -hmm we

15:41

were eating steak and we were happy

15:44

there you go now now we see

15:46

now now they're standing directly behind the

15:48

desk in the shot your son is

15:50

telling the president of United States to

15:52

shut the fuck up you're not the

15:54

president Elon shaves a bit of flesh

15:56

off his But

16:00

back to RFK. he's on the clock now. Yeah.

16:02

Because we heard him on the show.

16:04

If I had this shot and, you

16:06

know, in the beginning, it's like no

16:08

one's ever going to vote this guy

16:11

in. And as Joe said, why can't

16:13

they fix his voice? Which is an

16:15

honest statement or have a some sort

16:17

of voice box. Maybe he doesn't want

16:19

to it. You think the voice box

16:21

is better? In 2025? No, no, no,

16:23

it makes it normal. It's like the

16:25

opposite of a voice box. Stephen

16:29

Hawking? does Kanye use

16:31

or whatever? Auto -tune. It

16:33

just. That's hilarious. Dude, that'd

16:35

be hilarious. would be. No more

16:37

SSRIs. We're doing things. That's

16:41

a funny skit. Then he gets that and

16:43

he puts it on the wrong one. It's

16:46

just he's not the hype bitch yet.

16:48

But he's. I think nothing's going to

16:50

happen with him. I don't think

16:52

he's going to revolutionize anything. Maybe he'll get Red

16:54

Die Out or something like that. Some sort of

16:56

notable thing. Well, that would be a win. That'd

16:58

be a win. But like, do you know who

17:00

you're placed? Some out

17:02

of shape transvestite, I suppose.

17:04

a trans person, my apologies. It

17:07

seems like there's a cabinet position that doesn't really have

17:09

that much. I think he's

17:11

there to do the cuts. He

17:13

can do, but we'll see. It's funny watching the

17:15

left freak out about him because they're like, this

17:17

is the guy you want being your health minister.

17:19

And I'm like, I'm like, I'm pretty sure you

17:22

can go back like eight health ministers and they're

17:24

all out of shape, disgusting pigs. You can go

17:26

to other countries, health ministers and they're all fat

17:28

out of shape pigs. Like, at least this guy's

17:30

doing push -ups and jeans on Dick Talk. And

17:32

the other thing is, I think all these people

17:34

at the end day are just spokespeople. They

17:37

really aren't doing a lot. You know,

17:39

they're told what to do and they do

17:41

it. You don't think RFK is, you

17:43

think he's a spokesperson? For Donald

17:45

Trump. How

17:47

so? They're elaborate. There

17:50

are other people that work in his agency

17:52

that probably know a lot more than he

17:54

does about the agency. Or maybe not if

17:56

they all got fired by accident. But

17:58

they're, they're, it be. by accident. There's

18:00

no by accident. They did it on purpose.

18:02

you know, it can be by accident

18:04

when you're just blank at firing. When you're

18:06

looking at these people, just refer to

18:08

Veep. Yes. Yeah. I

18:11

get what he gives, uh, Joe,

18:13

some weed. I'd love to try

18:15

some woody weed. I would love,

18:17

I would, I would do anything

18:20

to part with woody. Oh,

18:22

that's a good question. Who's like your number?

18:24

you could smoke weed with anyone in history, who

18:26

would it be? Well,

18:28

less so now that woody, I had this time

18:30

with woody because I sure I smoked a

18:32

joint while I was listening. Sort

18:34

of off the bucket list. But,

18:37

um, Justin

18:39

Trudeau. Shut the fuck you know, I want to

18:42

know, like I just, know what he's like on the

18:44

way out. What do you want to know? What

18:46

would you ask him just out of the total douche

18:48

bag or is he a cool guy? Well,

18:50

you obviously don't think he's a cool guy, but

18:52

we don't know anything about anyone until we meet

18:54

them. I mean, I think we can categorically say

18:56

that Justin Trudeau is not a cool guy. Well,

19:00

yeah, you're willing to take your one

19:02

person need in all of history. Yeah, he

19:04

could have said Jesus, Genghis Khan alive,

19:06

alive, alive. Well, still even alive. There are

19:09

some amazing people that you want to

19:11

waste it to see if Justin Trudeau is

19:13

a cool dude. I don't know. Angle

19:15

of Merkel, like I think she'd be fun

19:17

to get high with like what are

19:19

you talking about? Like there's no fucking way.

19:21

Well, then it would be my real

19:23

dad. Oh, that's such a depressing

19:25

answer. Fuck. Okay, you ruin the

19:28

game. Yeah. Really? really shoves it right

19:30

up her ass. get it.

19:32

You don't want to play. It's fine. I

19:34

would go meet my one of my

19:36

relatives murdered in the Holocaust. How about that?

19:38

on. Just trump your dad. If

19:42

I wasn't so lazy, I'd take a bow

19:44

and I'd go smoke a joint with one

19:46

of my relatives that killed Simon's family. And

19:49

the worst part is Simon has to

19:51

smoke the joint through the fence. Oh

19:53

my God. Oh my God. Oh, sorry.

19:55

Too far. Too far. far. I can

19:57

say that you can't. space

20:00

um so the guy told us

20:02

he wanted to do semi blackface today

20:04

i want to put down a

20:06

white base but then have fucking stripes

20:08

is that okay no i said

20:10

lace i know so okay i got

20:12

you oh no we got it

20:15

and then you pair the black it's

20:17

like a bank see thing no

20:19

it's like fan of the opera what

20:21

are you talking about bank see

20:23

yeah i guess it's you don't know

20:25

have you seen fan of the

20:27

opera no you don't know this come

20:30

on it's cool thank you man

20:32

yeah um civilization resets civilization resets yeah

20:34

did you know between 1300 and

20:36

1850 there was like a deep freeze

20:38

on the planet i did not

20:40

know very hard time there was one

20:42

there were summers but no it

20:44

was a very hard time no but

20:47

the 1850s like the wars they

20:49

came out of it and and we

20:51

really started thriving after this deep

20:53

freeze for about 300 years just as

20:55

far as there was a 300

20:57

year deep freeze not deep freeze but

20:59

it just was cold it was

21:02

just cold and crops weren't as good

21:04

he started this thing so quick

21:06

it was a deep freeze for 300

21:08

years so i'm gonna could you

21:10

look it up from a deep freeze

21:12

i'm going to what year was

21:14

it come on between 1300 and 1850

21:16

but here that's 500 years as

21:19

the news is about doom and gloom

21:21

and luckily now we have i

21:23

don't know if you heard but there's

21:25

a meteor coming yeah but what

21:27

if they they knew 40 years till

21:29

the resets coming we

21:31

get that far ahead it joe

21:33

suggests there could have been three

21:36

already like full civilization podcast about

21:38

it then the holding blows up

21:40

start some scratch again grows and

21:42

if they knew would that be

21:44

motivation like we say look at

21:46

the he knows it's true we're

21:48

like why didn't i know about

21:50

this it would just make life

21:52

a lot harder psychedelics everyone should

21:54

do psychedelics to leave some

21:56

mushrooms some mushroom just to say

21:58

it's not good or good Uh,

22:00

Nixon's fault. Yeah. I

22:02

can't see anything like that, but

22:04

I do see articles that

22:06

are talking about a 1300 year

22:08

deep freeze, which was the

22:11

younger dry as you know, but

22:13

that happened 13 ,000 years ago.

22:15

Okay. Well, that's way back

22:17

on, um, we'll be right back.

22:19

The media is dying as, uh,

22:22

Angie Schultz foretold, just maybe

22:24

not as fast. He said Netflix

22:26

was dying. Yeah. You're, you're,

22:28

you're inflating things. Well, maybe Netflix

22:30

is next on the job.

22:32

Netflix is killing it. They're charging

22:34

me more. They're giving me

22:37

less. They're fucking maximizing. Everything does

22:39

that before it crashes. But

22:42

okay. So if, if

22:44

they get these $5 ,000

22:46

checks out and the economy

22:48

is going well and

22:50

it's good, then, uh,

22:53

but that's fake. Well, no, but you

22:55

see what I'm saying, right? If

22:57

you, if you, if you find $1

22:59

.7 trillion and then just dump it

23:01

into the economy, it's not real.

23:03

Like, no, no, no, that's going to

23:05

create, that's going to create, of

23:07

course, but it doesn't matter. The people

23:09

who don't have money will see

23:11

it as, wow, Donald Trump went in

23:13

there, cleaned up a bunch of

23:15

stuff, found a bunch of money that

23:18

doesn't go, I need to go

23:20

anywhere and gave it back to us.

23:22

Even though it has, we understand

23:24

it's money owed and they'd be borrowing

23:26

that money from the money though,

23:28

but to the everyday American, it would

23:30

seem like, wow. I think it

23:32

seems like, wow, like Matt

23:34

said, until you blow through that

23:36

on fixing a car that you

23:38

fuck up by driving through the

23:40

parking brake or something, you know

23:43

what I mean? And then it's

23:45

gone. And then you've already forgotten

23:47

by the next election that that

23:49

guy gave you $5 ,000 because you're

23:51

$50 ,000 in debt and that

23:53

$5 ,000 didn't make a goddamn lick

23:55

of a difference. Well, what everyone

23:57

is saying is that whatever the

23:59

state. of the economy in America

24:01

is, we'll talk about it again,

24:04

Mike Baker is at the midterms

24:06

will be the things are good.

24:08

What are the midterms exactly? They

24:10

have elections that are not to do with the

24:12

president and Congress and

24:15

Senate will know. Yeah, like I

24:17

think governors, Senate seats,

24:19

House of Representatives, that sort of

24:21

thing. So what Trump just

24:23

won everything of. Yeah. They

24:25

have another vote in. Two

24:27

years. The houses. Is it

24:29

halfway through midterms? Yeah,

24:31

midterm. What

24:35

could happen is the economy could be

24:37

really bad and the Democrats will win a

24:39

lot more seats in the midterms and they'll

24:41

just freeze everything. Right. But by giving everybody

24:43

five thousand dollars, that kind of buys your

24:45

way. Matt said, he saw it on Reddit.

24:47

I've seen it been said it's been

24:49

floated. Wait till happens. I thought it was

24:51

bullshit. I just thought it was rhetoric to

24:53

like make you hate Elon Musk. Because and

24:56

the only reason I say that is because

24:58

like if your whole thing was I want

25:00

Donald Trump to go and clean up

25:02

the government so that we're not so in

25:04

debt, then I don't think it's smart to

25:06

find two trillion dollars and divvy it out

25:08

to everyone. I think the smarter thing to

25:10

do is pay down the thirty one trillion

25:12

and that's what a lot of people

25:14

were pushing back against that. Yeah, or especially

25:16

like you said, you and I know that

25:18

the argument is you have to give it

25:21

to every American, but like you there's some

25:23

Americans aren't even going to know and that'll

25:25

be the angle. Why you give me

25:27

the money I don't even want the guy

25:29

one of the guys I saw who actually

25:31

it was his brainchild was saying, we're taking

25:33

the money that you guys sent to Ukraine

25:36

and we're sending it to you,

25:38

which we've always said. But again, there's

25:40

the debt. So you know that

25:42

the government in the room. I'm sorry.

25:44

Do you know you know that

25:46

the government bailed Elon out for like

25:49

the tune of like seven billion

25:51

dollars or something that Elon is singlehandedly

25:53

the biggest recipient of government grants

25:55

than anybody else in America. Too big

25:57

to fail. First of

25:59

all, that's a. huge conflict of

26:01

interest, but how with a clean

26:03

fucking conscience and a straight face,

26:05

do you get up in front

26:07

of us or them claiming about

26:09

going in doge and this and

26:11

that and you're the guy who's

26:13

taking all the fucking money, Matt,

26:15

to get to fucking Mars, like

26:18

not something that's going to help

26:20

anybody. I'm sure

26:22

it's defense contracts. I'm sure it's I'm

26:24

sure they're labeling it said it. Well,

26:26

no, he's definitely sending rockets somewhere. So

26:28

unless those are going up there to

26:30

put up military satellites, which they very

26:32

well might be saying you didn't believe

26:35

NASA forever. And now you might fall

26:37

for the same ploy again. What

26:39

do you mean? I'm just saying

26:41

if you land a few rock, if you catch

26:43

a few rockets, then you're like, Oh, yeah, how

26:45

much did they give them? Oh, six billion. Yeah,

26:47

that makes sense. He's sending rockets to Mars. in

26:49

reality, all they did was, I mean, you

26:51

don't even know if that shit's real. I'm sure

26:53

it is. I'm not saying I think it's

26:55

doctored. But what I'm just saying is like, just

26:57

like the moon landing, you've seen video of

26:59

that you didn't see it with your own fucking

27:01

eyes. It could easily be doctored. I mean,

27:03

it probably was. It probably wasn't. I know I've

27:05

seen plenty of people that are like the

27:08

moon landing, not the moon landing. I'm talking about

27:10

Elon's rocket. Yeah, I have no idea. I

27:12

mean, I've seen people sitting there watching it. So

27:15

we're sure I'm just saying I assume in

27:17

this day and age, I assume there

27:19

were people eyeball witnesses that are alive right

27:21

now. catching is happening on earth, right?

27:23

Yeah. Yeah. But my point again is, of

27:25

course, you catch a few on earth,

27:27

you have eyeball witnesses that say I saw

27:29

it. So that again, it gives you

27:31

more clout to be like, oh, we gave

27:33

Elon $50 billion to for Mars calling

27:35

it. And in reality, he's like, it's a

27:37

defense contract. I'm making them satellites, like

27:39

you said. That would be hilarious. If Doge

27:41

finally comes around to dealing with SpaceX and

27:43

finds out they're wasting all the money.

27:45

It's it's crazy. Sorry. Just one thing. I

27:47

don't even want to give this guy the time of

27:49

day. This isn't Elon. This is just space. In

27:52

that show, I was telling you about the one that

27:54

you told me the watch and then I told you to

27:56

watch. mankind. Yeah. For all mankind. It's

27:58

really interesting when they're up in space

28:00

like they're around the moon and they

28:02

have this one tiny opportunity to land

28:05

and if they miss it for whatever

28:07

reason yeah you get slung shot around

28:09

you go back to earth like that's

28:11

your chance like so many things have

28:13

to go right you know what i

28:15

mean and they all go right on

28:17

that for it come on it's just

28:19

it doesn't make any sense in a

28:21

sardine can dude you guys have already

28:24

convinced me you know mean i don't

28:26

need to be reconvinced no it just

28:28

it's just insane do you guys uh

28:30

know that mike white is a guy

28:32

that created white lotus yeah the guy

28:34

from survivor yeah did you know that

28:36

yeah so he was a he was

28:38

a hollywood guy that went on survivor

28:41

he did school of rock with jack black

28:43

he was on survivor yeah and then

28:45

he was a celebrity one no he was

28:47

a regular content they have i mean

28:49

they always bring on like a basketball player

28:51

right so mike white but he was

28:53

a celebrity on the show i think i

28:55

think it was his name he had

28:57

a different name mr mr schneebly is what

28:59

they called him because he was that

29:01

on school of rock and shoot sleep yeah

29:03

yeah but he he told them all

29:05

he told them all i like how you

29:07

gave him the right name and he

29:09

still said they're wrong um so we do

29:11

it baby no yeah he was he

29:13

even uh white lotus season one has i

29:15

think one or two people from survivor

29:17

that were not oh no way yeah yeah

29:19

they um are you watching the new

29:21

white lotus well there's only been one episode

29:23

but yeah you watched the problem with

29:25

white lotus is because it's one of those

29:27

new seat they have to release it

29:29

all at once whenever you do one of

29:31

these not a continuous story ones i

29:34

think they're better off binged because just

29:36

get to where we've been for years

29:38

there simon well it's just it's too it's

29:40

the build -up's too slow because you're reintroducing

29:42

all these new characters and a new

29:44

well that's the problem of all these shows

29:46

is like you might not get to

29:49

they're meant as like a one thing story

29:51

they're not meant to be broken i

29:53

think he's wait i can't i yeah i

29:55

mean listen i always watch every episode

29:57

weekly and then when it's done i and

29:59

rewatch it all as one. I

30:02

just don't have that. I don't have the

30:04

willpower you do to wait 15 weeks or 12

30:06

weeks. weird moment me and Simon also talked

30:08

about this prior at the baby shower. Oh yeah,

30:11

congratulations. That was

30:13

very demeaning. Woody lives

30:15

in Austin. Yeah,

30:17

they had like no idea. Joe's

30:19

chagrin. Joe really wanted him

30:21

to live in LA because he asked him like

30:23

three times. What's really great though is Woody said

30:25

right off the rip like, I live in Austin.

30:27

Like I came from just and Joe

30:30

didn't catch that at all. And then later on again,

30:32

he was like, yeah, you live in LA, right? And

30:34

he's like, he's like, motherfucker, I told you three times

30:36

already. No, I live in Austin.

30:39

Because we're neighbors in the neighborhood. live

30:41

across the street from you every

30:43

year. But what I said to Simon

30:45

is Joe is just a human

30:47

movie star. You've got the French

30:49

Riviera home. You got this, which where are you

30:51

at right now? Yeah, he lives in Austin right

30:53

now, obviously. You know that theater you were trying

30:55

to buy? I was selling it. also

30:59

actually kind of shows you the arrogance

31:01

of Joe in a way where he feels

31:03

like before he moved there, no one

31:05

of value was in Austin. was just like

31:07

a, it was like, you know, Vegas

31:09

before any of the gangsters got there. always

31:11

had a really cool cache for me

31:13

because Austin said limits, not knowing ever what

31:15

that meant. South by Southwest,

31:17

there's a CIA. The Austin

31:19

Comedy Festival, like that a lot.

31:21

CIA. South by Southwest, there's something

31:23

sketchy about that. There might be my point

31:26

USAID. don't know, get to that. My point remains,

31:28

Joe is like, I moved here four years

31:30

ago. Before I got here, there was no one.

31:32

And what he's like, do I've been here?

31:34

We've been here, yeah. Yeah, he's like, no, no,

31:36

no, no, no. You live in LA. Again,

31:38

this is the American thing. term

31:41

reinvent oneself and other things

31:43

that other have done is

31:45

not frowned upon. Yeah,

31:48

you just move somewhere else and you start

31:50

making up shit about yourself because nobody knows

31:53

you. But stuff still managed to go on

31:55

where you come from and whatnot. Like LA

31:57

is still fine. We just don't hear about

31:59

it because. No one's at those. Well, it

32:01

was on fire. It had a problem. quarters

32:03

of it burnt to the ground. Sorry, the

32:05

comedy stories. Yeah, right. Right, right.

32:07

I hear you. Which is

32:09

probably true, right? Like I assume

32:11

the comedy story is doing fine. Yes.

32:14

I would. I don't. It was actually

32:16

probably the biggest blessing for everyone in

32:18

LA because they could now get... Smart

32:20

spots. ...stage time. Yeah, not taken up

32:22

by, you know... Great point. ...the 10

32:24

best comedians on earth. Yeah. Great point

32:27

in the podcast where I think really

32:29

Joe missed an opportunity, whereas Woody says,

32:31

I don't care if you shoot up

32:33

right now, Joe said that

32:35

was the only thing holding me back.

32:38

But that means that if you went

32:40

to party with Woody Harrelson, you

32:42

want to go, oh, I'm out. He

32:44

would have everything. be no

32:46

reason to go out and get anything

32:48

for assume he'd be like the heroin

32:50

spoons have a place over there, the

32:52

decorative heroin spoons. Kamara said he has

32:54

all the drugs at home. Everything. believe,

32:56

yeah. Cookie jars. know how you have

32:58

cookies? He's Matthew McConaughey.

33:00

In case Matthew McConaughey comes over.

33:02

so that's what you're robbed

33:04

of, maybe, and maybe

33:06

we never know what they talk

33:09

about, but wild party stories, this

33:12

and that, the other. I

33:14

feel like McConaughey is probably

33:16

a T. Totler. No,

33:18

he drinks. I know he does. I've seen

33:20

him on like Burton. Oh, really? Yeah, he

33:22

drinks, yeah. I think they're probably good friends

33:24

because they are good friends. You think? Thank

33:26

God that Woody waited until the very last

33:28

minute to be like, I eat just a

33:30

raw diet. Yes. Vegetables uncooked.

33:33

Yeah. I was like, oh, this could

33:35

be ugly. Joe's like, I only eat

33:37

cooked meat on an open fire like

33:39

a man. I cook it naked and

33:41

I get a very cold bath. It

33:43

is funny how he'll be like, yeah,

33:45

I don't fuck with vegetables ever. Yeah.

33:47

Maybe a couple of jalapenos. proud of

33:49

it. Like I don't. It's

33:52

like people that hate vegans. I don't understand.

33:54

doesn't affect you. Well, no, my point

33:56

is, I guess that like, look, I eating

33:58

all meat is probably. a good thing,

34:00

but I imagine that vegetables

34:02

are doing you a lot of harm.

34:04

You know, you were the vegetables are

34:06

trying to kill you guys. are actually

34:08

trying to kill you. But by eating

34:10

a carrot, I like, I don't think

34:12

you're doing your body. disservice. picking up

34:14

what you're putting down. Yeah. They are

34:16

trying to kill you. Every vegetable on

34:19

the low, low. They just

34:21

aren't very good at slow slow. Yeah. On

34:23

the low, low and the slow, slow. Come

34:26

on, can we be done with Woody?

34:28

That was my big analysis. That was the

34:30

crescendence. perfect. I give it. I give

34:32

it a nail. Nailed it. I still like

34:34

Woody Harrelson, just the stuff we could

34:37

have talked about. I can't give it a

34:39

three because I mean, it

34:41

almost feels like I'm I'm giving it a

34:43

lower score because of the excitement I

34:45

had going in. I give it a one.

34:47

I wanted like could have been a

34:49

five. I give it a point five and

34:51

I find it insane that we can

34:54

go through three, well, two and a half,

34:56

two hours and 37 minutes with Woody

34:58

Harrelson. And I don't think they mentioned one

35:00

name of one movie, except for this

35:02

new one that Joe was forced to go

35:04

see, which I still don't know the

35:06

name of. Not one

35:08

movie he was in, not a

35:10

TV show he was in. Like

35:13

the only movie shit they talked

35:15

about was Woody telling Joe that

35:17

they had to wear masks on

35:19

set. Yeah. Here's the

35:21

thing, too, is they all mentioned .F .A.

35:23

But just kept flying through. And how

35:25

many times has Joe been on this

35:27

on his show and mentioned the fact

35:29

that Woody Harrelson's dad may have killed

35:31

J .F .K.? That's why it's not a

35:33

five for me. I mean, OK, let's

35:35

just stop for one second before we

35:37

move on. Do we really like it?

35:39

Just stop and ask yourself, do we

35:41

really think we even live in a

35:43

world where Joe goes, hey, Woody. Should

35:46

I kill J .F .K.? And Woody

35:48

just Woody just 50 years secret goes,

35:51

you know what, Joe? Yeah. No, I expect

35:53

Joe to say something like, isn't it crazy

35:55

that there's the rumor out there that you're

35:57

and Woody says, yeah, I think. That's fucking

35:59

crazy. My dad wasn't even in the CIA

36:02

and we just put it to rest. I

36:04

don't disagree with that. Go

36:08

ahead. Come on. Let's move on. So

36:11

that got a total combined score of

36:13

2 .25 or 2 .5. Come on. I

36:15

gave it a three. I gave it

36:17

a one. I gave it a 4

36:19

.5 combined, but that's 4 .5 out of

36:21

15. Yeah. So bad. No,

36:23

it's a 31. It's a fail.

36:25

Yeah. That's interesting. If you count

36:27

up all the scores in the end, what do you

36:29

mean? 2 ,274, Mike Baker. That

36:31

actually makes a lot of sense. Yeah.

36:34

Overall from the three of us, well, just

36:36

to give people an idea of how good or

36:38

bad the, I think I'm sure someone out

36:40

there had worked at the math previously. I mean,

36:42

I had never thought about it before six

36:44

years. Yeah. I'm just your average guy. Okay. Come

36:46

on. What was the name? What was the

36:48

number? Sorry,

36:53

274, Mike Baker. Oh, yes,

36:55

you did say that. The bike maker. Getting

36:57

to the bottom of it in the fog of war. Someone

37:00

knows the answers. The

37:02

prom Iran. Always.

37:05

And who created Iran? I

37:07

don't even know. I guess it would be,

37:09

it'd be soft power. would be to see

37:11

that soft power or for a simple speak,

37:13

you got to keep your bitches in check.

37:16

And that's what USA it is. Cause

37:18

when he's, I thought there'd be a

37:20

point cause Ben's, he was using a

37:22

lot of Ben's information said, you know, uh,

37:25

he says USA eight is when it's too

37:27

dirty for the CIA to do and that

37:29

we, that could have been in, but I

37:32

like that. No, I don't know if you

37:34

caught it, but Mike Baker scoffed at that

37:36

as if like, there's nothing too dirty for

37:38

us. You don't know. Yeah,

37:40

you don't know. I'm, he's like, I'm the

37:42

spokesperson, but there's guys out there doing dirt

37:44

brother. We tried to kill Castro 500 times.

37:46

How many times did you try and kill

37:48

Castro? But wait, I want to go back

37:50

to this Iran thing. Cause it's a, it

37:53

actually brings up a great point. His whole

37:55

thing, his whole overlying thing was. If

37:57

we don't do this, other people are doing this.

37:59

And we only do it to keep Americans safe

38:02

and happy and rich and fed and fat. Yes,

38:04

of course. And if you're American, you kind of

38:06

have to get behind that and go like, sure,

38:08

I guess I don't care if we crack a

38:10

few fucking eggs on the way. Like that's the

38:12

cost of doing business and I live pretty. But

38:15

then you create an Iran, because

38:17

that's 100 % what happened. Iran was

38:19

a great place before the U .S.

38:21

intervened. And it was

38:23

100 % the CIA and now they're

38:25

their biggest enemy. And now the

38:27

CIA is constantly like, they're our

38:29

biggest threat. They're who we have

38:31

to worry about. And it's weird

38:33

to be like 70 years ago,

38:35

you did this. Well, listen, two

38:38

things can be true at the

38:40

same time. America created, like you're

38:42

saying, this situation where if

38:44

they don't fill the

38:46

void, somebody other

38:48

no, created the void.

38:50

I understand. But they

38:52

have created it. If they

38:55

don't fill it, somebody else

38:57

will fill it. If they

38:59

hadn't created it, we're having

39:01

a different discussion. But the

39:03

reality right now is the

39:06

way the system is set up, if America

39:08

doesn't fill that void, somebody else is going

39:10

to come in there and fill that void.

39:12

So wouldn't you rather it be? No, but

39:14

there was no void. You're missing my point

39:16

is like if the U .S. just doesn't

39:18

if they just leave Iran alone to be

39:20

a country, they might be a thriving, wonderful

39:23

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39:25

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40:00

sort of what they want to do.

40:02

Yeah, but the problem that's that's the

40:05

problem Okay, but the problem was this

40:07

we're talking about 1950s and Israel

40:09

had just become a country. So it was

40:11

a weird. You couldn't really use it. Oh,

40:13

no I'm 100 % in agreement with you.

40:15

This is their own problem that they made.

40:17

Yeah, I agree with you now Now they're

40:19

saying they will blow up Israel and we

40:21

can't have that probably by design Let's

40:24

probably by design so we

40:26

can oh because you we all

40:28

are they they need the

40:30

boogeyman Well, I'm afraid

40:32

of Russia. I'm trying to be

40:34

afraid of ram having Israel which They

40:37

kind of made Gives

40:40

them a reason to always be at

40:42

war with somebody over there because they're protecting

40:44

Israel, right? So it's like but that's

40:46

the weirdest thing is Donald Trump's whole deal

40:48

was like I'm getting out of every

40:51

war And I'm not giving money to anyone

40:53

and Israel is still clocking a fucking

40:55

huge towel That's the irony of this whole

40:57

thing, right? Like and even crazier if

40:59

you're an American and you vote over Donald

41:01

Trump You can't be happy when he's

41:03

like we're gonna rebuild Israel the Gaza. I

41:05

I would well Everyone

41:07

says everything Trump says is

41:09

like a crazy thing

41:11

and then it actually here

41:14

even Mike Baker said He

41:16

said that and that made the states

41:18

around so I go on okay He's

41:20

talking this crazy shit. We've got to

41:22

do something and I think we all

41:24

agree something has to be done and

41:26

personally The more I think about the

41:29

hostages like they should have given them

41:31

back like it's and they sent some

41:34

One back and it wasn't the right body.

41:36

It's so like oh since it's just

41:38

something's got to be tank care of

41:40

because it's just Out of control so since

41:42

you guys think I don't tell you

41:44

anything I remember the Member

41:46

during Desert Storm. There was hostages in

41:49

Iraq that got freed you're related to

41:51

one of them, too I am indeed

41:53

this I think this guy's a CIA

41:55

He's our Mike Baker right here. Yeah

41:57

Baker over here No, my grandmother side's

41:59

crazy like a million stories like that

42:01

weird shit. Yeah. Yeah, that's fucking nuts

42:03

But yeah, Mike Baker doesn't think that

42:06

he's actually going to do that He

42:08

thinks it's to people say he's gonna

42:10

actually do that small

42:12

sidebar Apparently the

42:14

51st state how that started Was

42:17

a conversation between Trump and Trudeau

42:20

Trump was talking about tariffs and Trudeau said

42:22

if you were to do that We

42:24

would cease to be a country Thinking he

42:26

was having a normal conversation with the

42:28

guy and Trump said really then maybe you

42:30

shouldn't be a country And that's how

42:32

it got to the 51st state. So it's

42:34

Trudeau Yeah, he was talking to a

42:36

normal person. He doesn't like governor Trudeau at

42:38

all cares back to what

42:40

they're saying is one of the disingenuous thing

42:43

the pearl clutches are coming out right now

42:45

with his Trump said he lowered the price

42:47

of eggs. Yeah, and the eggs

42:49

are going up in price Maybe

42:51

because inflation but also because they might

42:53

have killed because they're killing all these

42:55

chickens But they won't they're just saying

42:57

eggs to be Cheaper and our friend

42:59

was just in Minnesota and eggs are

43:01

cheaper. They're still then we are getting

43:03

them. Yeah, of course Well, that's always

43:05

how it is the prices that they

43:07

won't stand for are they are normal

43:09

No, the prices that they're complaining about

43:11

or are normal in 2010 You

43:14

know what the biggest Bill of

43:16

goods they ever sold us here

43:19

in Canada was they were like

43:22

Yeah, our dollar is lower than

43:24

their dollar, but like that's

43:26

a good thing No,

43:28

no, but like down there You

43:31

know The cost of

43:34

living is higher or whatever like things

43:36

are cheaper, but it's not true at

43:38

all No,

43:40

like a millionaire there is the same as

43:42

a millionaire here except that their million

43:44

is worth more than our million Yeah,

43:46

right now they're million worth substantial

43:48

lot more for your million Well, yeah,

43:51

and like if you take two

43:53

jobs and stack them against each other.

43:55

Yeah, we're just getting paid less

43:57

We're like the women in the argument

44:00

Like, Simon, sometimes, sometimes I see,

44:02

sometimes I see prices of like when

44:04

the housing market crashed in the States

44:06

and they're like, people were foreclosed on

44:08

like 275 ,000 hour homes. I'm like, a

44:11

what? That doesn't exist. Sometimes

44:13

just for listeners, for American

44:15

listeners, that's a trailer. 275 ,000

44:17

hour home ceases to exist in

44:19

this country. It just is

44:21

not a thing that does 175

44:23

,000. Yeah. Not in the city,

44:26

not in the country, nowhere.

44:28

Really? I'm really. Kamar, I swear

44:30

on my life. Yeah, there

44:32

is nowhere. 275 ,000

44:34

is the down payment for us

44:36

in this country now. No,

44:38

it's just so nuts. And look,

44:40

like if you want, if

44:42

we're agreeing with you, fucking three

44:44

terms of Trudeau has turned

44:46

this country into a fucking. They

44:48

can't even plow the snow

44:50

here anymore. Dude, listen, there

44:52

was a point when I was like

44:54

playing a lot of poker stars,

44:56

buying those fucking vanilla master cards. annoying.

45:00

It was. But there was like a six

45:02

month period just before Trudeau, probably probably

45:04

a couple of years before Trudeau took power

45:06

where like our dollar. I remember putting

45:08

money on poker stars and it being like

45:10

you put on 100, you have one

45:12

hundred and nine dollars and being like, what

45:14

the fuck? Because normally you put one

45:16

on and it's like, here's seventy five, you

45:18

piece of shit, because it only I

45:20

don't know why they gave us American money.

45:22

But I remember our dollar being at

45:25

82 cents American. And I thought we were

45:27

like fucking living in Shangri -La. But what

45:29

we should have been doing or someone

45:31

should have been doing is buying American money.

45:33

We should have had Canada aid just

45:35

to manipulate America this whole time. Yeah,

45:37

writing hit songs in America. can't live. Well,

45:40

no, that's what Drake. I was just

45:42

going to say. But just making

45:44

them the psychological warfare that you can't live

45:46

without us or whatever. And we haven't

45:48

done that. You know, we should have done

45:50

as a country when our dollar

45:52

was worth more than theirs. We should have

45:54

borrowed a trillion dollars and

45:56

bought U .S. currency, but apparently Canada

45:58

owned. a lot like China owns a

46:00

lot of the U .S. debt which

46:02

I don't understand at all. How

46:04

can we be in debt and own

46:06

their debt? But the situation comes

46:08

down to this that as the Arctic

46:10

is melting Russia and China want

46:13

it and we either decide to we

46:15

have to be with America or

46:17

we have to fight them or join

46:19

them. We don't have a choice.

46:21

I think it's weird that - What

46:23

part of the Arctic do you want

46:25

because most of Russia is the

46:27

Arctic so I'm just curious. want Antarctica?

46:30

Ars. Antarctica is nowhere

46:32

near. No, our part of the Arctic.

46:34

Equal it. All that. The

46:36

point being is it's going

46:38

to happen at some point and

46:40

we could have invested in crazy

46:42

military that people say there's no way you

46:44

guys are building that base up there to

46:46

defend us but we didn't. And now in

46:48

the business where - Yeah, but you think

46:50

one base is going to do it? We

46:52

would have had to invest. We would have

46:54

crippled our country. We would have but How

46:57

is that better? We're going to lose our whole country

46:59

to America or somebody now. That's why it's better. I don't

47:01

think that's going to happen. I think

47:03

inevitably it will happen. I

47:06

don't. Like in your lifetime it

47:08

will happen? I think

47:10

someone is born today

47:12

will experience Canada being

47:14

absorbed into something. That's

47:16

your child. Yeah, it's

47:18

going to be American or Chinese or

47:20

Russian one of the three. I really think

47:23

so because everyone's saying now that is

47:25

the weakness. We are so exposed up there.

47:27

But what do you mean? We're exposed

47:29

everywhere. Well, no, we're not on this border

47:31

and water is a pretty good - But

47:33

even to say - Oh, I see what

47:35

saying. say we're exposed, the US, it

47:37

doesn't matter how they feel about us. They

47:39

don't want Russia and China that close

47:41

to them. So at that alone finish my

47:44

thought is when people are saying what

47:46

Russia did with China, when Russia's doing the

47:48

Ukraine, the reason why you have to

47:50

fight Ukraine is because Russia China

47:52

will think it can take Taiwan. Well,

47:54

no, people think they're going to

47:56

take Canada because we would be

47:59

a lot less of a fight.

48:01

Then Ukraine was they have a

48:03

million person army. We have 80 ,000

48:05

people in army. Are you also

48:07

forgetting though? I thought the whole

48:09

thing with Russia was that the

48:11

Crimean people were mostly loyal to

48:13

Russia and the Darmas Yeah, isn't

48:15

that a huge difference? Well what it

48:17

turns out to is at the

48:19

end day What America wants now

48:21

to end the war is half

48:23

of Ukraine so instead of using

48:25

their country to They're losing

48:27

it to America and Zelensky has

48:29

just said he will quit as president

48:31

if Ukraine can join NATO Which

48:33

is interesting because that's kind of the

48:35

same thing he wants to do

48:37

with Palestine Is there like a

48:39

trend here you guys are seeing where

48:42

they just want if shit goes bad enough

48:44

The Trump's just gonna come in and

48:46

be like well, it's mine now You guys

48:48

can't get along. It's my but I

48:50

said when Trump is saying that Nate that

48:52

those things about 51st The king's supposed

48:54

to say no no Germany's

48:57

supposed everyone's so I don't think any

48:59

of them buy it supposed to happen isn't

49:01

playing out Trump's supposed to go over

49:03

there and say you guys can't agree well

49:05

Then I'm gonna cut it in half

49:07

at which point somebody says no don't cut

49:10

it in half take it whole and

49:12

then the judge says It's clearly theirs, but

49:14

apparently he's like you guys can't decide

49:16

in that According to school schoolyard rules that

49:18

makes it mine the one ironic thing

49:20

I think is that apparently Macron is going

49:22

to America to tell Trump he's got

49:24

to stand his ground like what are you

49:27

talking about France? They hate

49:29

each other. No, they surrender They're

49:31

cowards, but that is a historic

49:33

example of surrendering working out well for

49:35

someone or better than complete death

49:37

I meant to ask you cork and

49:39

I I saw Trump this week

49:42

and this wasn't doctored. I actually saw

49:44

this with no no context Where

49:47

he was like, yeah, we did it

49:50

and he's like was it legal? I don't

49:52

know, but we did it. Is that

49:54

not concerning to you? What was he talking

49:56

about something that they did involving this

49:58

fucking firing of people or doge is but

50:00

That's happening everywhere all the time. What?

50:03

Illegality. No, I forget the illegality. We

50:05

know that I'm not talking about that.

50:07

My concern. My

50:09

concern is simply that. If

50:12

Trump supporter, is your, you should be worried

50:14

that the next person who gets in is not

50:16

going to be afraid to break the law

50:18

to hurt the other side of the country. Is

50:20

that not the, like I'm concerned about that. Cause

50:23

I don't want this turning into a

50:25

pissing contest where everyone, we're half the

50:27

country hates the other half. Again, what

50:29

I said before is what everyone said

50:31

was happening was actually happening the opposite.

50:33

The Biden was a crying family and

50:35

they were doing this. And now they've

50:37

gotten this point. Um, cash

50:40

metallurgists got in, we'll

50:42

see. If they start putting

50:44

heads on, um, pikes

50:47

or whatever you want to say. Mike

50:49

Baker for whatever he is said,

50:51

he does, he greases this bloat

50:53

and stuff and doesn't like the

50:55

way Trump's doing it and doesn't

50:58

like the messaging. But

51:00

I'm sure based on what Mike

51:02

Ben saying, it takes 50 years. If

51:04

you start to go, okay, we'll

51:06

start the committee of downsizing your

51:08

upsizing to downsize. And I, I

51:10

think this has never been done

51:13

before. So it looks really dangerous

51:15

and drastic and only time will

51:17

tell if what they're doing is

51:19

better. But again, uh,

51:21

in Canada, they're talking about tariffs in

51:23

two countries. It's, it's, it's lit a fire

51:25

under everyone. I would like my concerns.

51:27

Sorry. My concerns just that I see a

51:29

lot of Trump supporters kind of like,

51:31

uh, who four years ago

51:33

would have been quoting the constitution

51:35

now kind of being like, fuck it,

51:37

throw it out the window, which

51:40

is a little bit concerning. But what

51:42

they're saying is some of this

51:44

money that taxpayer paid was used by

51:46

the government to tell the people

51:48

everyone likes Democrats and Republic, like the

51:50

government, yeah, seems more

51:52

illegal than anything they've done. I'd like to

51:54

believe that if this was Trump's first

51:56

term in office and he had eight years,

51:58

he would. do this at a better

52:00

pace?" Well, there's no better pace. You got

52:02

to just pull the band -aid off. I'm

52:04

fine with that. I don't care about

52:06

the pace. My term, again, my

52:08

concern is like, you don't

52:10

swear. When you're sworn into whatever

52:12

fucking position it is, you swear to

52:15

the Constitution. That's it. You

52:17

swear to uphold the Constitution. nothing to

52:19

do with Donald Trump or Joe Biden

52:21

or any of that. You're just, these

52:23

rules up here, they're all that matters.

52:25

And my concern is just that now

52:27

people are trying to usurp that in

52:29

weird ways. Both sides, by the way,

52:31

I'm not saying it's just a Trump

52:33

thing. My concern is when the Democrats

52:35

do it too. Is Adam Schiff made

52:37

up a whistleblower to get an impeachment

52:39

of the president, so

52:41

fraudily fraud? Yeah, that whole Well, he should

52:43

to jail. So, again, I'm

52:46

No, no, no, but I agree or I

52:48

think you more say bygones be bygones.

52:50

This got really dirty. Let's stop it here.

52:52

Because if you're saying it's illegal, then

52:54

he should be brought up, but it's going

52:56

to look like this is just - Hear

52:59

me out. I'm not saying Trump - Listen,

53:01

I'm not saying that if he's proved what

53:03

he's doing is illegal, he should go to

53:05

jail. I'm not one of these like Trump

53:07

is a criminal. I'm not saying that. What

53:09

I'm saying is my concern is just that

53:11

like, if you're going to break the rules

53:13

to do what you want now in four

53:15

years, if you're not in, the Democrats can

53:17

just go and break the same rules to

53:19

make it shitty again. My concern about that.

53:21

Just because it has, it happens to be

53:23

for the better good, for the better doesn't

53:25

mean you can break the rules to do

53:27

it. Well, the other Well, mean,

53:29

okay, sorry, technically it does actually. I mean,

53:31

isn't that the whole idea of like the

53:33

Second Amendment? Is that you have

53:35

guns and if you don't trust these

53:37

people, you take over? Like, that's the whole

53:39

idea. So like, if Donald Trump thinks

53:41

that the government is not being run by

53:44

the - Well, no, it's to protect yourself

53:46

from a tyrannical government. That doesn't mean

53:48

if you disagree with the government, you can

53:50

use your guns to take them over.

53:52

That means in case of the worst case

53:54

scenario that the government comes to your

53:56

door with guns to try and make you

53:59

do whatever you protect your - saying is

54:01

he's not using guns he's saying I

54:03

think there is someone else controlling the government

54:05

and I will I'm willing to bend

54:07

the rules that they're clearly breaking anyway. No,

54:09

I was agreeing with you But I

54:11

think that's probably people's you know, if it's

54:13

for the better good, then we're okay

54:16

with him You know bending the Constitution or

54:18

whatever. Yeah, which shouldn't be the case

54:20

everybody that like if that's your law Then

54:22

that's your law. I was I was

54:24

gonna say this for the post job But

54:26

we I've just got to get to

54:28

because we're into my have you heard the

54:31

post -national state No, does that

54:33

sound like a good thing? A

54:35

post -national state refers to

54:37

a concept where countries identity

54:39

and governance are no longer

54:41

Primarily defined by traditional notions

54:43

of nature such as shared

54:45

ethnicity language or a singular

54:47

cultural narrative instead of emphasize

54:49

diversity global interconnectedness in Super -national

54:52

institutions i .e. the EU

54:54

the UN over a unified

54:56

national identity in this framework

54:58

So this is ship might

55:00

focus more on universal values

55:02

like inclusivity in human rights

55:04

rather than historical or territorial Cohesion

55:07

the term suggests a shift away from

55:09

the 19th century model of Nation

55:11

-state toward a more fluid cosmopolitan entity.

55:13

Does that sound good to you?

55:15

Well, it doesn't sound as terrible as

55:17

you're making out to say it

55:19

seems like a Fork

55:22

in the road of how you decide a

55:24

country to be okay, and so big because

55:26

this is what But

55:28

let me ask you a question if we

55:30

were sitting here 300 years ago And

55:33

there was four slaves hanging in my backyard Do

55:35

you not think that someone might have the same

55:37

conversation we're having and they're like Does this sound

55:39

like a good world to you where I don't

55:41

have five slaves where you know what I mean

55:43

like it The way you

55:45

framed it first of all was you framed

55:47

it as if we should be afraid of

55:49

this And then you read out something that

55:51

sounds like well, no, I I had the

55:53

complete reaction because It was

55:55

quoted by Justin Trudeau in 2015 with

55:57

the new york time Shortly after

55:59

becoming Prime Minister Trudeau said there's no

56:02

core identity. No mainstream in Canada

56:04

Those qualities are what make us the

56:06

first post -national state So this is

56:08

all by design and I I

56:10

want to go the other way. Well,

56:12

a close swab thing then Right,

56:16

you'll you have no money and you'll

56:18

be happy and no identity It's just

56:20

we're all for common values. It doesn't

56:22

matter where you're from or what you

56:24

do Which on paper sounds good, but

56:26

does yeah, but mean that's not true

56:28

Provinces are so different from each other

56:31

So we obviously that's why I

56:33

think when they say the United

56:35

States of America. It really should

56:37

be United 50 countries That

56:39

all working like that's what it is. be like

56:41

a country. It is that's why they all

56:43

make their own rules You got you gotta remember

56:45

car. It's built the idea the idea is

56:47

simple every 50 states follows this constitution and each

56:49

one of those states gets to write its

56:51

own constitution and With in that constitution

56:54

as long as you're following that one you can do

56:56

whatever you want That's why there's no gambling in

56:58

Utah. Oh, that's interesting. That is how it works Well,

57:01

and then that leaves me how it

57:03

works here is what the hell is the

57:06

federal government doing? Well, the federal government

57:08

is making the rules that all the countries

57:10

follow to make sure that one country

57:12

doesn't beat up on another Country or whatever

57:14

the case with standing clauses is anytime

57:16

a province doesn't agree with that they can

57:18

pull that clause Sorry,

57:20

what the notwithstanding clause

57:25

Whether fellow government says something they want to

57:27

do and one provinces I don't want to

57:29

do that they invoke the notwithstanding clause and

57:31

then what happened standing is doing it all

57:33

together Well, they just don't do it or

57:35

it goes a lot. It goes to court

57:37

and they decide whether they have to be

57:39

forced to follow at all so wait, let

57:41

me get this straight like Canada

57:43

has no death penalty, right?

57:46

No, so if Newfoundland decided they wanted

57:48

a death penalty They would just

57:50

pull out this notwithstanding clause and then

57:52

do whatever the fuck they want

57:55

I think so. Well, how come that's

57:57

never happened before in the history

57:59

of Canada all of Canada is Basically

58:01

Democrats That's not true

58:03

No, but the Conservatives are the Republicans

58:05

Yeah, but even most of them

58:07

are Democrats compared to their their sensibilities

58:09

in America You understand? but I

58:11

was just giving you an example There's

58:13

capitals up here that hate Trump.

58:15

I think the problem is you live

58:17

here Mm -hmm. Yeah, and like we

58:20

live in a very sort of

58:22

Democratic liberal not even Ottawa Eastern Eastern

58:24

Ontario Eastern Canada if you go

58:26

to Alberta Those are true and tried

58:28

and hard 100 % I'm sure new

58:30

if you go to any little

58:32

town. It's the same thing. It's just

58:34

in the cities No, you're right

58:36

But what I'm saying is metropolitan city.

58:39

I'm saying you go to metropolitan

58:41

Calgary and It's

58:43

but everyone Everyone says that

58:45

if Canada were to become the

58:47

51st state or the 52nd

58:49

state after my joke Yeah, it

58:51

would be a blue state

58:53

So would not it'd be Disadvantages

58:56

to America for Canada to

58:58

join And I think

59:00

that's true. I think we would

59:02

be more a democratic then does does

59:04

all of the post does all

59:06

of Ontario Population

59:09

-wise make up the other

59:11

provinces combined almost 50

59:14

million It is not Ontario

59:16

and Quebec are half

59:18

the country Simon if you

59:20

take Quebec City to Windsor Half

59:22

the country lives in that little corridor

59:24

right there, but come begs the

59:26

question. Why don't we have a fucking

59:28

high -speed fucking real coming? It is

59:30

coming. Yeah. Oh great. I'll be

59:32

fucking. Oh, no not your lifetime. Yeah.

59:34

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah exactly when they

59:36

said it's 3 .5 billion design

59:39

phase Just

59:44

a bunch of coffee meetings

59:46

and who wants yeah Our

59:48

o -train is any

59:50

indication bankrupt this country trying to

59:52

build high -speed rail So the one thing

59:55

I want to tell that military the

59:57

one thing I want about to say this

59:59

USAid is I think the

1:00:01

media's portrayal is a lot worse than

1:00:03

it is. And if they find

1:00:05

something that is doing something good, they

1:00:07

probably do do it. And I

1:00:09

think we've also, or continue the funding,

1:00:11

but I think we must agree

1:00:13

that there could be a point where

1:00:15

this funding is not enabling the

1:00:17

other country to get off its own

1:00:19

two feet. Especially

1:00:22

if that money is not going directly

1:00:24

to people, which a lot. they have,

1:00:26

they have even gone to, I've

1:00:28

seen some stuff about what happened

1:00:31

with Haiti in USAID. Yeah,

1:00:33

they just robbed all of it. They just stole

1:00:35

all of it. Yeah, none of that went to Haiti.

1:00:37

I did like, I'll give Joe some flowers. I

1:00:39

did like that he brought up, he had obviously seen

1:00:41

the same thing I did when he brought up

1:00:44

the social security in the 150 years. Yes,

1:00:46

the computer doesn't. Well, then I, yeah, that

1:00:48

I was saying it's an older coding thing

1:00:50

and that these young hotshot coders, go ahead.

1:00:52

Again, that seems like something that should be

1:00:54

updated. So this was a light shine on

1:00:56

it. No, no, I said that at the

1:00:58

time. I said that. The other thing I

1:01:00

wanted to say is remember I've always said

1:01:02

that they should do something like that here

1:01:05

with voting. People

1:01:07

flying all the way to these houses

1:01:09

to discussing matters seems a little archaic. Like

1:01:11

it's a hundred years old. And that's

1:01:13

the one thing I think everyone should do.

1:01:16

like, yeah, there should be an overhaul

1:01:18

and it would be difficult no matter who's

1:01:20

in power. I mean, that

1:01:22

overhaul wouldn't. You give every member

1:01:24

of Parliament a fucking camera and they

1:01:26

can sit in their fucking office

1:01:28

and then you just have a projector

1:01:30

where whoever wants to talk. Someone's

1:01:32

losing their job and there is clatter

1:01:34

off. don't give a fuck. finally,

1:01:36

it was the same people who said

1:01:38

everyone's got to get vaccinated for

1:01:40

the good of everyone is turning around

1:01:42

now and saying, we've got to

1:01:44

protect these couple jobs. But this theoretically

1:01:46

cutting people, people losing jobs is

1:01:48

for the good of the whole country.

1:01:50

And that is disingenually not being communicated

1:01:53

by the media right now. And that's why

1:01:55

they're fighting back. We'll see what happens though. mean,

1:01:57

here's the thing. are like, you know, it's

1:01:59

easy for us sitting up here, not losing our

1:02:01

jobs to just callously be like whatever it's

1:02:03

people losing their jobs. Um, that does

1:02:05

matter to people. There's probably good people that

1:02:07

lost their job. You admitted that we said that

1:02:09

just like there's good people lost their jobs

1:02:11

because they wouldn't get vaccinated. No, on. I'm not.

1:02:13

No, no, but you didn't let me finish.

1:02:15

You didn't let me finish my point. My point

1:02:17

was just that, um, like

1:02:19

I saw this thing the other day. And again,

1:02:21

it's to me, it was like rhetoric. And I'll tell

1:02:23

you why it was this park ranger who, you

1:02:25

know, he was like, this is my dream job. I've

1:02:27

had this job for 25 years. And

1:02:29

because of these cuts, they just blindly fired me. And it

1:02:31

was this long spiel about, you know, I wanted my son

1:02:33

to have this job and I want to pass on to

1:02:36

him. And I thought to myself after I read it, I

1:02:38

was like that's jobs onto sons. No, he just like,

1:02:40

you know, my son will be bred into this job. And

1:02:42

when I when I was done reading, I was

1:02:44

like, that is sad. This is this seems like a

1:02:46

nice guy who probably didn't deserve to lose his

1:02:48

job. And he got caught up in this bullshit, the

1:02:50

government bloat, but he probably did deserve to keep

1:02:52

his job. But then I also thought to myself, in

1:02:55

reality, this guy will probably go and reapply and

1:02:57

get the job. Because he seemed like he was good

1:02:59

at it and cared. And so at the end

1:03:01

of the day, that's it. And so part of me

1:03:03

was like, I'm just falling for this rhetoric where

1:03:05

I'm like, angry for this guy who lost his job

1:03:07

in a country I don't live in, where they're

1:03:09

cutting jobs that don't affect you know mean? Well, you're

1:03:11

also making an assumption that he can just reapply

1:03:13

for his job and get it. I think he can.

1:03:16

Yeah, I don't like that he's necessarily gonna

1:03:19

get it, I guess is my point. My

1:03:21

point was this, if everything this guy wrote

1:03:23

in this thing was true, they would be

1:03:25

crazy not to hire him back. They're I

1:03:27

don't believe the US is just now not

1:03:29

looking for good qualified people. I

1:03:31

think Kamar's point is like, you fire everyone

1:03:33

in one fell swoop, it's ugly as

1:03:35

shit. Everyone who reapplies who's worth

1:03:37

their salt gets their job back if their

1:03:40

job was needed. If your job wasn't

1:03:42

needed. Unfortunately, go to the private sector. Yeah,

1:03:44

maybe use one they did. But

1:03:47

can I ask you a question? got an email

1:03:49

saying, what have you done last week? If you

1:03:51

don't respond, you're fired. I

1:03:53

gotta ask you a question because I was

1:03:55

crunching the numbers and we were blown

1:03:57

away that there's three million federal US employees

1:03:59

like we were shocked by that number,

1:04:01

right? Like you're like, it's so high. No.

1:04:04

No what? Well, there's a lot of

1:04:06

federal employees in Canada. Governments

1:04:08

are big. No, I know, but

1:04:10

the way I looked at it was this.

1:04:12

There's 360 million people there. there's 3 million

1:04:14

federal employees, that's basically like. for every 10

1:04:16

people? Every 100. There's

1:04:19

3 million employees. Every 100 people

1:04:21

has it. Yeah. No, that makes

1:04:23

sense. This is the DMV.

1:04:25

is it, is when I started quenching the numbers,

1:04:27

I was like, that number actually makes sense.

1:04:29

Parking attendance. is it is all I started. Well,

1:04:31

no, that's that's I don't think that's federal. That's

1:04:33

probably on a city level. I'm talking about

1:04:35

federal employees. OK, yeah, yeah. But even then, like

1:04:38

if you think about it for for every 100.

1:04:40

NCC part, I'm just trying to be the

1:04:42

same here. That's the thing is a lot of

1:04:44

the times we get caught up in numbers where

1:04:46

it's like, there's 3 million federal employees. You're like,

1:04:48

holy shit, what a bloated government. But then

1:04:50

when you break it down to something like I

1:04:52

just said, you're like, well, it doesn't seem that

1:04:54

crazy. And I think as in a a

1:04:56

first world country or G7, it is common to

1:04:58

have a shit. The government, yeah, yeah, yeah. I

1:05:00

mean, again, I think there's stability. That doesn't

1:05:02

mean I don't think there's a shitload of bloat

1:05:04

and waste in the government. I know that exists.

1:05:06

But I'm just saying is when you start to

1:05:08

break down the numbers, you're like, yeah, you

1:05:10

probably need one employee for every 100 people. Well,

1:05:12

I'm going to go back to what I said

1:05:14

before, whether if it's three million people, yeah, then

1:05:17

just hire a force of people

1:05:19

to do the cuts so you don't

1:05:21

have to do them blindly. And

1:05:23

then you you put them on like

1:05:25

you're not hiring them. It's a

1:05:27

contract, a contract. And when it's done,

1:05:29

those people go off and do

1:05:31

whatever the fuck they were doing before.

1:05:34

Instead of having 10 guys do it and

1:05:37

then saying, well, we have to do it

1:05:39

this way because otherwise it would take too

1:05:41

long. That's how the military always worked, right? You

1:05:44

get out of high school, you join the

1:05:46

military, you do three years, they give you $30

1:05:48

,000. They send you up to school, you can

1:05:50

go to school, do something else, stay with

1:05:52

the military. Like, the conception

1:05:54

of that, it sounds so barbaric when

1:05:56

you're 19 or 17 about this idea of

1:05:58

two years. with the

1:06:00

army, I gotta get my hair cut or

1:06:02

whatever, but now it's like, got my

1:06:04

hair cut. That's what's it called, public service.

1:06:07

It really makes sense, government should be

1:06:09

the same thing. You come in,

1:06:11

you get your three years, get, for

1:06:13

sure you're gonna get $1 ,000 every two weeks

1:06:15

as a pension no matter what you do

1:06:17

in your life because of your service, but. No,

1:06:19

that's interesting, but that's not what I was.

1:06:21

I was talking about the people cutting the jobs

1:06:23

in the doge. Come on,

1:06:25

I don't it. The nerdy? The 10

1:06:27

people. The squad, they shouldn't be,

1:06:30

what gives them the right? No, I'm

1:06:32

saying have them head it, but

1:06:34

just hire on 1 ,000 people or

1:06:36

10 ,000 people. However many people you

1:06:38

need to be able to cut the

1:06:40

right people without doing this blanket

1:06:42

cut. Like they're not doing that because

1:06:45

they don't wanna spend the money and it's

1:06:47

not an everlasting salary. It's a one

1:06:49

shot deal. And trust me, it'll save you

1:06:51

a lot of money in the long

1:06:53

run because you won't be having to rehire

1:06:55

it. Like somebody has to do that

1:06:57

job, man. The one thing I'll say. You

1:06:59

know what I mean? To rehire all

1:07:02

the people you just fired, I guess, yeah.

1:07:04

Or the evilest thing, not only are

1:07:06

they firing all these people, they're also putting

1:07:08

an AI that can do their jobs. Well,

1:07:11

that would be pretty fucking sneaky. But

1:07:13

the people are saying kids are old

1:07:15

enough to decide where they could cut

1:07:17

off their penis are the ones saying

1:07:19

these kids are too old to go

1:07:21

over the books or too young to

1:07:23

go over the books. So it's again,

1:07:25

we walk in a lot of contradictions.

1:07:27

Yeah, no, that's not my opinion on

1:07:29

these 10 kids. I don't care how

1:07:32

old they are. I'm just like, why

1:07:34

are there only 10 people doing this

1:07:36

job? My only issue with them would

1:07:38

be security clearance. That would be my

1:07:40

only issue. Just that everyone

1:07:42

who gets access to all that

1:07:44

data usually has to pass a lot

1:07:46

of security clearance. But whatever, let's

1:07:49

move on. Yeah, the thing I, the

1:07:51

exciting thing the most is all

1:07:53

this is going to be seen as

1:07:55

what happens. Oh, Lassie, in

1:07:57

the 2008, it was very hard.

1:07:59

In America and the two which one

1:08:01

was that all that the housing

1:08:03

crisis stuff Yeah, you tell you about

1:08:05

it. We didn't feel well. I'm sure we felt it. We

1:08:07

paid a You know eight hundred

1:08:09

dollars more a year, but it didn't We

1:08:12

thought there'd be people around barrels

1:08:14

with fire. Well, there should have been

1:08:16

no No, we have they hadn't

1:08:18

availed them out there would have been

1:08:20

people around barrels not country No

1:08:22

in America, but I'm just saying it

1:08:25

seems like this the

1:08:28

unintended consequence stuff is less than when

1:08:30

they had to bail out all

1:08:32

those banks and just flood the economy

1:08:34

Which got us into this mix Sorry,

1:08:36

I'm not sure I'm understanding that

1:08:38

seemed a lot more Agree time

1:08:41

at that time than all this

1:08:43

so far. Then yeah, well, I

1:08:45

mean, they're totally different, right? We're

1:08:47

they're we're not saying that there's

1:08:49

gonna be a collapse Well, no,

1:08:51

I mean maybe Obama decided

1:08:53

we're gonna bail out all these

1:08:55

banks Trump is deciding we're gonna cut

1:08:57

the shit of this government and

1:08:59

first off the economy The economy is

1:09:02

100 % about to collapse. Yeah. Yes,

1:09:04

that may be no, I'm not

1:09:06

saying again I'll I'll restate this point.

1:09:08

I'm not saying doge is a

1:09:10

bad thing. I mean the name is

1:09:12

terrible But the idea of cleaning

1:09:14

the swamp we've all been saying to

1:09:16

do that. I'm questioning their methods Everyone

1:09:19

is I just think we've never seen this

1:09:22

happen before and when something happens that you

1:09:24

don't Think it looks bad or

1:09:26

whatever fair enough, but we also how

1:09:28

all can like use our

1:09:30

brains and the last stage won't say

1:09:32

Mike Baker when Joe's throwing in

1:09:34

this stuff about, you know Manipulating

1:09:38

governments Mike was

1:09:40

like What did you think

1:09:42

you're doing? Obviously, so he was very honest

1:09:44

there and we're at the bottom of

1:09:46

it Because usually he comes on he's like

1:09:48

manipulating the government. What are you talking? Fucking

1:09:52

retard I've been trying to wink at you

1:09:54

the whole time Yeah,

1:09:56

I give this a one though. I

1:09:59

mean out of all all the Mike Baker

1:10:01

episodes that have ever happened. I think this

1:10:03

was probably the best one, but

1:10:05

I'll still, I'll give you, I'll go

1:10:07

with your one. Oh, and one more

1:10:09

thing, instead of riding across on camels

1:10:11

to raise money, which probably costs a

1:10:13

million dollars, just give them the money.

1:10:15

Again there, or sell chocolate bars. It

1:10:17

seemed like a bit of a indulgent

1:10:19

fundraiser. I go to one and a

1:10:21

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Philippe. Esparza.

1:12:02

Felipe. Esparza.

1:12:06

Whenever, whenever

1:12:08

conversation follows

1:12:10

apart. Conversation,

1:12:12

whenever conversation follows apart.

1:12:14

Follows apart. It always

1:12:16

goes to movies. Because

1:12:20

you can talk about movies and

1:12:22

who's in that forever. But I'm

1:12:24

cool with that. If that's the

1:12:26

worst, like that's, I'm fine. I

1:12:28

could talk about movies forever too,

1:12:30

couldn't you? I'd rather them talk

1:12:32

about movies than start asking Joe

1:12:34

about his fitness routine or any

1:12:36

number of things or everything. Well,

1:12:38

that's what that's why the next

1:12:40

podcast after that is a unicorn,

1:12:42

so to speak. But

1:12:44

craziness produces art. How do we not

1:12:46

do true romance for the fucking

1:12:48

movie game to Mike Baker and Joseph

1:12:50

Rogan spoke about it. They spoke

1:12:52

about the scene, the moors. Remember Joe

1:12:54

was like I'm 2 % African because

1:12:56

I'm Italian. Well, it was Felipe

1:12:58

Esparza, the one we're on right now.

1:13:00

But yeah, I said why didn't

1:13:02

you know he hasn't a chance yet?

1:13:04

No, I said we did Mike

1:13:06

Baker. Oh, he's been done. He's saying

1:13:09

it happened in Felipe, our sponsor. Yeah,

1:13:11

the one he's gonna do is what you're saying.

1:13:13

The one we're doing right now. Yeah. Oh, we're

1:13:15

now doing the movie. I'm pretty sure we've done

1:13:17

true romance. know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they

1:13:19

didn't have anything to talk about. They talked about

1:13:21

so many movies. But back to

1:13:24

cocaine. You

1:13:26

know, when Felipe was like, yeah, sure, sure,

1:13:28

you've done it. But Joe, I'm sure hasn't. But

1:13:30

the people who have done it, it makes

1:13:32

you crazy. And then you

1:13:34

can make art. But it's

1:13:36

definitely, except in the,

1:13:38

you know, rare cases of the

1:13:40

rolling stones or whatever, you,

1:13:42

you, you burn up and fade away.

1:13:45

Sam Kinnison. Yeah,

1:13:47

I don't think cocaine is like a prolonged,

1:13:50

it'll get you. And

1:13:52

it gets you, but it makes

1:13:54

you crazy. And not everyone should do

1:13:56

cocaine and try to be an artist, but

1:13:59

some that do. It helps. I

1:14:02

thought like all the great artists were

1:14:04

on heroin, not cocaine. Well,

1:14:07

no, like Stephen King wrote everything on

1:14:09

Coke and cigarettes, right? there are some

1:14:11

people that... But I think the cocaine

1:14:13

is the performance enhancing. The

1:14:15

heroin is more the... Creative. No,

1:14:18

to deal with fame, because they talked

1:14:20

about it a bit, but being famous,

1:14:23

if you're young, it's a, it said

1:14:25

it's a curse or whatever, but it totally is

1:14:28

because it's a once in a lifetime thing for

1:14:30

you to be at any point in your

1:14:32

life at any age. That's how I justify in

1:14:34

my head. I'm like, it's good. I didn't

1:14:36

get famous or do anything because I would have

1:14:38

ruined it. so I've actually done the right

1:14:40

thing by % and

1:14:42

if by chance you become famous now.

1:14:45

Yeah, it's a blessing. You would

1:14:47

say, thank God this didn't happen. 100%.

1:14:49

100%. 100%. Although that being said,

1:14:51

no, it was standing. I'd like to

1:14:53

be famous when I was young.

1:14:55

Or anyone does, but we are mature

1:14:58

and old enough to see all

1:15:00

the cases that it never works out.

1:15:02

Joe really is a unicorn in

1:15:04

that regard because he was famous right

1:15:06

from the start. From

1:15:08

the very first second he set

1:15:10

foot in Hollywood, he had

1:15:12

a job, he didn't have to

1:15:14

do any auditions. Listen,

1:15:17

managed to be relevant all

1:15:19

this time. Joe has a

1:15:21

1920s Hollywood story. Yeah. Like

1:15:24

I'm Greta Garbo, I just actually

1:15:26

walked into the executive's office past his

1:15:28

secretary who was smoking and

1:15:30

I said, put me in a movie and next thing you

1:15:32

know, I'm on the set and I'm in a movie. Again,

1:15:34

I auditioned to be an extra and they gave me the

1:15:36

lead role. Like it really

1:15:39

feels like a... A

1:15:41

CIA op, like like aid.

1:15:44

Yeah, like... You remember the rehearsal, the Nathan

1:15:46

Fielder thing when he's trying to plant the

1:15:49

trivia answers on the guy? It's almost like

1:15:51

the CIA was like, okay, we can get

1:15:53

this kid, we'll get him tickets to a

1:15:55

Red Sox game, okay? And when he leaves

1:15:57

the Red Sox game, we'll have

1:15:59

like a... loudspeaker of a guy kicking

1:16:01

a bag because that'll fucking get him

1:16:03

and you know what I mean and

1:16:05

like the whole His trip down this

1:16:07

weird fucking path to a billionaire. I

1:16:09

love that one How Nathan builds the

1:16:11

whole thing and cost him like a

1:16:13

million dollars and then the guy

1:16:15

doesn't want to do it because he doesn't want

1:16:17

to I don't want to throw the answers so

1:16:19

funny Nathan's like,

1:16:21

you know, I just built like this bar

1:16:23

and this thing The pièce de résistance is

1:16:26

the very end where he's gonna tell the

1:16:28

guy that he set the whole thing up

1:16:30

the best And you think he's telling him

1:16:32

and you find out it's the actor dude

1:16:34

It's so good. It's so good And

1:16:36

even better is in the next episode when

1:16:38

he's in when he's on the west coast

1:16:40

And you find out that it was so

1:16:43

expensive to build the bar that they had

1:16:45

to ship it over there and built it

1:16:47

inside and then He's dude when he's like

1:16:49

due to Oregon State law. I had to

1:16:51

build a hundred fifty foot attachment It's an

1:16:53

amazing show like it doesn't get the credit

1:16:55

it deserves Yeah, I mean his whole show

1:16:57

and Nathan ruins everything some of them are

1:17:00

like Fucking the most hilarious,

1:17:02

but it's so funny. It's sort of like

1:17:04

kids in the hall Which bigger but

1:17:06

still Joe had never seen it clean talk

1:17:08

Dave Foley as it's in the hall

1:17:10

is incredible um, but with

1:17:12

fame I listened

1:17:14

to Joey's podcast The

1:17:17

corner with Joey Diaz

1:17:19

and he has he had

1:17:21

chas pulmonary pulmonary on

1:17:23

who wrote um

1:17:26

Bronx tale one of my favorite

1:17:28

movies has pulmonary wrote that and

1:17:30

directed wait wait So the story

1:17:32

is it started out as a

1:17:34

five minute story. He told Not

1:17:37

like comedy but in this sort

1:17:39

of Theater bar where

1:17:41

you tell you tell stories and

1:17:44

built it over a year into

1:17:46

a one -man show So we'd

1:17:48

sit up there and say the whole movie

1:17:50

And in no way but but just just

1:17:52

as an act sold out shows Everyone

1:17:55

in Hollywood Was

1:17:57

coming to the show and saying you

1:18:00

$100 ,000 for that story. And he would

1:18:02

hold out just like Stallone and eventually held

1:18:04

up to a million or two million and

1:18:06

Robert De Niro bought it. Robert,

1:18:08

Redford was there and

1:18:11

he was super successful with not

1:18:13

making a lot of money and

1:18:16

no one knew who he was.

1:18:18

Then he sold it to Robert

1:18:20

De Niro and then

1:18:22

it had to wait a year

1:18:24

before it hit like. Well,

1:18:26

I don't think it ever did great. Like

1:18:29

it wasn't like an Uber popular No,

1:18:31

but at the same time that that came

1:18:33

out, he also booked the usual suspects. Like

1:18:36

he was 40 or 38 years old

1:18:38

or whatever, had crafted this story. It

1:18:40

was his story, starred in it. It

1:18:42

wasn't a huge smash hit, but he

1:18:44

was the toast of the town, anything

1:18:46

he did. And he was saying, you

1:18:49

don't understand with fame, you

1:18:51

can't turn it off. You can

1:18:53

have anything you want, but

1:18:55

this machine to stop. And then

1:18:57

it goes away. And

1:19:00

you may wanna relive something,

1:19:02

but you can't. So it's very

1:19:04

important as Joe said, I

1:19:06

forget one episode, but a gratitude.

1:19:09

But if you're too young, we know with anything.

1:19:12

You don't know what you got till it's gone.

1:19:14

Yeah, youth is wasted on the young.

1:19:17

And so that's probably

1:19:19

why Joe is somewhat

1:19:21

tolerable. I think Joe forgets

1:19:23

a lot of people he's had on the show. When

1:19:26

they talked about the rock, he talked about

1:19:28

him almost like I had met him once,

1:19:30

but he was on in November 2023, but

1:19:32

two years ago. Joe always forgets who he's

1:19:34

had on. in his events, if I had

1:19:36

2000 plus guests on, don't think I'd remember.

1:19:38

There's no way he forgot having the rock

1:19:40

on, though. The guy came and worked out

1:19:42

with them. That's true, his cronies. That's true.

1:19:44

I forgot he was on death because when

1:19:46

he talked about it, like, oh yeah, did

1:19:48

he forget maybe? Well, it was a very

1:19:50

forgettable episode. I can tell you that much.

1:19:53

We always knew it would be. The

1:19:55

rock's never gonna come on and be like, oh,

1:19:57

I snorted coke off the stripper ones and like that

1:19:59

you're in Bangladesh. You're never gonna get that the

1:20:01

rocks are the most clean no, but again, you know,

1:20:03

you could talk about the WWE There's a lot

1:20:05

you could have gone into with the rock that they

1:20:07

didn't bother But again, he's not the type to

1:20:09

spill any beans on Vince or any of the you

1:20:11

know what? I mean, he's not the type to

1:20:13

smear the organization Even after the fact

1:20:15

he's the type of guy to sit in front

1:20:18

of a chair and be like I love

1:20:20

my time at the WWE It was great. I

1:20:22

mean listen. He has an interesting backstory. He's

1:20:24

related to all those guys in the WWE like

1:20:26

there All they talked about was

1:20:28

his fitness routine what he ate on his

1:20:30

cheat day like come on. It was

1:20:32

a fucking Do you remember when

1:20:34

I'm being ventriloquist was a thing?

1:20:37

Yeah, and which little yeah That just

1:20:39

morphed into comedians doing impressions of people

1:20:41

But it used to be a thing

1:20:43

for someone to just come out and

1:20:45

do voices We know what you're doing

1:20:47

here. I mean Jeff Dunham was like

1:20:50

in the early 2000s. He was big He's

1:20:52

still big. He's well. He has a

1:20:54

vague. I mean he has a vagus rest.

1:20:56

Hold on a ventriloquist ventriloquist is different

1:20:59

You're talking about imitate or Impressions

1:21:03

Ventriloquist is with the dummy. Yeah, that's what

1:21:05

Jeff Dunham did. No, I know that's

1:21:07

not what he's totally I totally messed it

1:21:09

up. Oh, sorry. You said ventriloquist at

1:21:11

first. There are still Jeff Dunham But yeah,

1:21:13

I meant just an impressionist But he

1:21:15

would be a guy who just little is

1:21:17

a great example Presidents and and it

1:21:20

was always such a skill. Maybe

1:21:22

it doesn't seem as impressive now,

1:21:24

but now it's like So

1:21:26

we'll do that in their comedy act I

1:21:28

think everyone does a Christopher Walken getting

1:21:30

groceries or whatever you can do that. I

1:21:32

feel like it's moved to Online

1:21:35

maybe like you'll see a lot of people who

1:21:37

have a page where all they do is impressions It's

1:21:39

still a thing, but it's just not yeah, it's

1:21:41

just moved mediums Like I don't know that it work

1:21:43

because like you you're one of those purists where

1:21:45

you're like I don't like crowd work. That's just

1:21:47

a personal thing. No, I can't do crowd work If

1:21:55

I can't do it, it's it's

1:21:57

it's illegitimate I envy I envy you

1:21:59

guys who do crowd work. Listen,

1:22:01

I love your honesty. Um,

1:22:03

taking comedic advice from club owners.

1:22:06

Yeah, that's hard, hard to

1:22:08

swallow. Being,

1:22:10

yeah, can I ask you a question? you take, have

1:22:12

you, do you often take advice from other comedians? I

1:22:15

wish they would give me advice. But

1:22:17

if like, if, if there was a comedian you respected

1:22:19

in Ottawa and they were like, I think I

1:22:21

can punch that up a bit. You would take, you

1:22:23

would take it if you thought it was good.

1:22:25

100 % interesting. And hope they told me before I

1:22:27

was going up. So I just get out of the

1:22:29

way. No, but I meant like it, like first,

1:22:31

like, if it's the first time they've seen you try

1:22:33

out a joke that you've been doing for like

1:22:35

three weeks, you know mean? It's still fresh, but you've

1:22:37

done it a few times and then they tell

1:22:39

you after like no attachment that it would be. But

1:22:41

like even this guy who's, I did that show

1:22:43

last week in Peterborough, he's

1:22:45

hosting the same, some of the same people

1:22:47

are coming to the show that he's promoting, but

1:22:49

he's only been doing it like four years. He

1:22:52

doesn't have any new jokes. And I

1:22:54

said, try telling your jokes, but changing

1:22:56

a word. Yeah,

1:22:59

yeah, just to mix it up because

1:23:01

you have and we also have this

1:23:03

feeling like, oh, you, you know, my

1:23:05

act because you care so much about

1:23:07

me, but people sort of don't remember

1:23:09

and get the gist, the certain misdirections

1:23:11

that are after three times, everyone's going

1:23:13

to know it won't be funny. But

1:23:15

I'm not precious. Yeah. If you do

1:23:17

something better than I can, that's smart.

1:23:22

Bone capabilities. It's

1:23:25

much like you used to

1:23:27

say we only use 10 %

1:23:29

of our brain. Yeah, I'm sure

1:23:31

I'm only using 2 % of

1:23:33

my phone. hundred percent. And

1:23:35

and I've seen videos about what

1:23:37

to unlock the power of

1:23:39

it. Just because it's too much.

1:23:42

I mean, I'll give you guys this, like even

1:23:44

me. But I also

1:23:46

don't think you're meant to use 100 % of

1:23:48

your phone. I think that's a big thing

1:23:50

too. But I even me, I probably only

1:23:52

use 40%. Just keep on eating the steak,

1:23:54

use 2 % of your phone and be

1:23:56

happy. No, but like to give

1:23:58

you an example, I hated Facebook. but I

1:24:00

liked that it told me birthdays. So

1:24:03

I just went through one day. took

1:24:05

an hour and I literally just clicked on

1:24:07

birthdays and it lists everyone. On all

1:24:09

of your friends it lists their birthdays in

1:24:11

order from January 1st to the end.

1:24:13

Everyone that meant anything to me, I just

1:24:15

wrote it in my Google calendars, set

1:24:17

it to remind me every year. I've

1:24:19

never been on Facebook since. My phone

1:24:21

literally will send me a prompt that

1:24:23

says, we think it's Matt Floyd's birthday

1:24:25

today because last year or the year

1:24:28

before, I wished you a happy birthday

1:24:30

on your birthday, yeah. So that's great.

1:24:32

But that's just, I didn't do anything

1:24:34

special. That's the iPhone, it does it.

1:24:36

But that's how into your fucking shit

1:24:38

it is. know what mean? What's even

1:24:40

weirder is when it's like, hey man,

1:24:42

where you been? Post something,

1:24:44

play a game of tennis, come on man.

1:24:46

Search up something, where you been? You're missing out

1:24:49

on the fun. I mean Simon, what's really

1:24:51

creepy is like, I'll get in my car Monday

1:24:53

at, you know, and they'll tell you Ward

1:24:55

is home. Yeah, it's like, no, no, it's like

1:24:57

Ward is only seven minutes away. And I'm

1:24:59

like, yeah, I know. You don't need to tell

1:25:01

me. And how do you know where I'm

1:25:03

going? But isn't that funny that it's like, hey,

1:25:05

that place you go every Monday at six?

1:25:08

This is how you get there. And you're like,

1:25:10

yeah, I know, shithead. Like, I don't, I'm

1:25:12

not that dependent on you. It would be hilarious

1:25:14

if one day at reminding you, like, holy

1:25:16

shit, it's trivia. Yes, yeah, oh my God. How

1:25:18

do I get there again? I've

1:25:22

woken, I'm like Encino man. I've woken up

1:25:24

from a coma. It's like vanilla sky. Yeah.

1:25:27

But come on, like, do you use your,

1:25:29

you use the notes in your iPhone?

1:25:31

Yeah, I really do use notes a lot.

1:25:33

I Yeah, and I use it for

1:25:35

comedy too. I use notes and voice memos.

1:25:37

Yeah. So there you go. mind most

1:25:39

things. And I bet if you needed to level

1:25:41

something, you would use your phone. To

1:25:44

level? Yeah, there's a level. didn't even

1:25:46

know there was a level. There's a fucking

1:25:48

level. you go, yeah. For real? real.

1:25:51

I was looking for a level

1:25:53

the other day. See this measure thing?

1:25:55

You hit measure, and then you

1:25:57

go to level. Shut the fuck up.

1:25:59

Wow. there's a studfire. There's a

1:26:01

stud finder in there. haven't cut off

1:26:03

my hand. Listen, Gory, if

1:26:05

you go and buy a stud finder right

1:26:07

now, it barely works. They're pieces of shit. You

1:26:11

know works? Stop.

1:26:15

You gotta be here for it. You

1:26:17

know where somebody has really missed the

1:26:19

boat? Go on. Is a phone case

1:26:21

that is like a Swiss Army knife.

1:26:23

They've made that the Swiss Army. I

1:26:25

need tweezers all the time and don't

1:26:27

have them. Swiss Army has a phone

1:26:29

phone on me. I don't have a

1:26:31

fucking pair of tweezers. See, I'm going

1:26:33

to make a note in my phone

1:26:35

on your birthday. Simon wants a Swiss

1:26:37

Army phone case. See what I'm saying?

1:26:39

Can people believe we smoked in bars? I

1:26:44

mean, it's funny. As disgusting as I

1:26:46

think it is now, I still romanticize about

1:26:48

it. I want 100 % romanticize about it.

1:26:50

And like right now, if I walked

1:26:53

into a movie theater to watch a film,

1:26:55

and just before the movie started, an

1:26:57

attendant walked in and was like, just so

1:26:59

everyone knows, smoke him if you

1:27:01

got him. I'd be ecstatic. I'd

1:27:03

go and buy a pack of cigarettes. Speaking

1:27:05

of true romance, it's playing at the buy

1:27:07

town. No, the Mayfair this week. What's

1:27:10

the double bill? I

1:27:12

can't remember. I'm going. Oh, I

1:27:14

probably work. But my roommate asked

1:27:16

me to go watch The Wizard

1:27:18

of Oz. Yeah. I

1:27:21

said I'm not going to. It's going to be two

1:27:23

guys and all these kids, but I maybe wouldn't because

1:27:25

I've never seen it on the big screen. You've seen

1:27:27

a hundred. Oh, yeah. That's the beauty of the Mayfair

1:27:29

is that you might catch a film. You never got

1:27:31

I if I wasn't, if I wasn't at the. You

1:27:33

can wear your Glinda costume club this week. I would

1:27:35

be going to true romance because I really liked it.

1:27:38

What else you got? Come on. Did

1:27:41

you see they live? They

1:27:43

live. No, the movie with the zombies

1:27:45

where they went where Roddy Roddie Piper wears

1:27:47

the glasses so you can see the

1:27:50

aliens or whatever. You've never seen that. No.

1:27:52

Oh, dude. That is like one of

1:27:54

the camp. Well, it has Roddy Roddie Piper.

1:27:56

I was going to say, yeah, but

1:27:58

that could that could. be like a resurgence.

1:28:01

think it's like the 90s or

1:28:03

something. It's it's a really

1:28:05

campy movie. Did you guys see

1:28:07

Bar Fly? With

1:28:09

making your work. That's what's his

1:28:12

name? The poet Charles because Charles

1:28:14

because well, they talked about it,

1:28:16

but it's it's also a very.

1:28:20

There's actually a book written by leaving

1:28:22

Las Vegas feel to it. Oh,

1:28:24

yeah, it's dark. I never saw

1:28:26

Bar Fly. OK, know, Bukowski,

1:28:28

though. Of course. Yeah, was

1:28:30

Bender's favorite author. So I think Bar

1:28:33

Fly was actually like a short story he

1:28:35

wrote or something. Woody Harrelson

1:28:37

was a no country for old men. Let's

1:28:39

do it. Game.

1:29:03

Come on, take it away, baby. It's the

1:29:05

movie game where Matt signed and go ahead

1:29:07

to find out what your mere year movie

1:29:09

came out, how much it cost to make

1:29:11

and how much it made the box office.

1:29:13

One of my top 10 films of all time.

1:29:16

This week, we're just throwing it all around

1:29:19

because it worth a lot of movies that

1:29:21

Felipe and Joe talked about. I didn't write

1:29:23

them down as much as I thought I

1:29:25

did. But I feel like Felipe

1:29:27

is sort of like the Hispanic Brian.

1:29:33

Feet don't fail me now. Brian Simpson. Feet

1:29:36

don't fail me now. Yeah,

1:29:39

I guess he's kind of, I guess. This

1:29:42

guy just feels like the ultimate pothead. This guy might be the

1:29:44

guy I'd want to get high with the most. I'll

1:29:47

just throw that out there. Way better

1:29:49

than Justin Trudeau. I guess it was off.

1:29:54

So I'm to have a year here. Yeah,

1:29:56

I have a year. What year did you

1:29:58

say? 2010. I said 06. 2007

1:30:01

oh fucker that was the first

1:30:04

thing I had written down and

1:30:06

I said no it's got to

1:30:08

be the year before what a

1:30:10

dumb but I thought it was

1:30:12

if you said 2015 I would

1:30:14

be so crafty what a shithead

1:30:16

well I went 37 million and

1:30:18

192 I said 35 and 220

1:30:20

that's too fucking close man too

1:30:22

high though budget 25 million oh

1:30:24

are you still right there box

1:30:26

office a hundred and seventy one

1:30:28

point six oh I'm pretty fucking

1:30:30

close 192 yeah I was a

1:30:32

little off but whatever not bad

1:30:34

good work Simon good work good

1:30:36

work all around and that's the

1:30:38

movie game brought to you by

1:30:40

Pfizer who's I wish to I

1:30:42

would I'd take that Pfizer I

1:30:44

didn't tell you I would tell

1:30:46

yes they reached out to me

1:30:48

personally I have I have a

1:30:50

direct link I thought it was

1:30:52

interesting when they were talking about

1:30:54

Lyme disease back to or was

1:30:56

that the one of the deer

1:30:58

that's the one with the deer

1:31:00

ticks ticks not no no that's

1:31:02

it's chronic wasting disease that's the

1:31:04

deer yeah no no take deers

1:31:06

get a lot of ticks they

1:31:08

do as well but they carry

1:31:10

Lyme disease I understand but dogs

1:31:12

humans can get Lyme disease as

1:31:14

well but I think the one

1:31:16

thing just here you can eat

1:31:18

the meat of a sick animal

1:31:20

well you should I think it

1:31:22

was the chronic wasting disease is

1:31:24

the one you're talking about you

1:31:26

could you shouldn't obviously but they

1:31:28

were saying that they would shoot

1:31:30

them so they don't since interact

1:31:32

so like social distancing yeah you

1:31:34

apply it but they're not making

1:31:36

the deer wear masks or anything

1:31:38

well that maybe they were shooting

1:31:40

them in the head and then

1:31:42

I think Joe should put a

1:31:44

metorium on the motor and more

1:31:46

moratorium first off in six years

1:31:48

he's spoken about Mr. Hands a

1:31:50

lot and listen I'm kind of

1:31:52

okay with that but I think

1:31:54

it should be retired fucking horses

1:31:56

you're okay with that what I

1:31:58

mean rather he didn't, but to

1:32:00

play the clip this time, dude,

1:32:03

I didn't need, I didn't. Yeah. It

1:32:06

was really discipline. I was really bummed

1:32:08

out. Like it was four in the

1:32:10

morning. I was really bummed

1:32:12

out. Everyone was really bummed out. was really

1:32:14

bummed out. like, I didn't need this. Be

1:32:16

it resolved. I'm a moratorium on Mr. Hands.

1:32:18

If you don't know, you better ask somebody,

1:32:20

but we're not going to do it. If

1:32:22

you don't know, thank your lucky stars. Like,

1:32:25

dude, what's he going to play two girls, one cup

1:32:27

again this week and let make us listen to that. Like,

1:32:29

there's no need for this. We're adults here. This

1:32:32

isn't 20 or four. you ever

1:32:34

seen the movie, Human Centipede? No,

1:32:37

no, thank God. you? Yes. And I

1:32:39

saw the recreation of it today with the

1:32:41

babies. Yeah. I

1:32:44

give it a two. Philippe

1:32:47

Esparaza. I guess

1:32:50

I'll give him a two because it's

1:32:52

not that I dislike any of the

1:32:54

guests this week. I just

1:32:56

disliked the week. You know, this

1:32:58

one gets a one. I'll

1:33:00

give it a two, two, two. I'm sticking with

1:33:02

two. I

1:33:04

have to maintain my negative point two five rating

1:33:07

and so we literally just gave him 20 minutes.

1:33:09

I love that. I love that. The only reason

1:33:11

we're cutting the short today gang is I had

1:33:13

a baby shower. Normally we record at one. It's

1:33:16

fucking it's late. Sounds weird

1:33:18

when you say that. I like you were

1:33:20

having a shower with a bunch of babies. Yeah,

1:33:23

I mean, listen, it's weird because we're three guys.

1:33:25

We shouldn't have been anywhere near it. We shouldn't

1:33:27

have been involved. I was having a baby shower

1:33:29

when women have a baby shower, you know exactly

1:33:31

what they're talking about. Yeah, I would have preferred

1:33:33

it was that. But I think Mary in her

1:33:35

defense didn't want that. so she was like, if

1:33:37

we just bring a bunch of people together, it

1:33:39

doesn't have to be so girly and stupid. I

1:33:41

get that. They don't have to like play pin

1:33:43

the tail on the. That's exactly what she was

1:33:46

trying to avoid. Yeah. Anyway,

1:33:48

go ahead. What do they pin the tail on

1:33:50

at a baby shower? The woman, I think.

1:33:52

Isn't that it? You put it on her belly.

1:33:54

Do you put a dick on the guy?

1:33:56

I don't know. The guys aren't there. I know

1:33:58

it's a cut out of you and they're

1:34:00

like all. going around sticking balls on to... You

1:34:02

talking about a wedding shower or something? Not

1:34:04

a baby shower. I digress. 2275

1:34:07

Magnus Carlson. I

1:34:09

was trying to make a joke. I

1:34:11

wasn't actually insinuating that they were gonna put

1:34:13

balls on. Right away I

1:34:15

wanna say this. This is weird. So he's like,

1:34:18

I think this guy was cheating because I've played

1:34:20

him before and he was playing too well. But

1:34:22

I have no evidence. I have no evidence and

1:34:24

I don't think he had a butt plug in.

1:34:26

And then Joe presses him on a little bit

1:34:28

and he's like, well... But if you

1:34:30

have no proof, like no evidence, you just... No,

1:34:32

he said the internet got this. It was not

1:34:34

me. I do not come out and say

1:34:36

anything, he's cheating. No, he never

1:34:38

got that far because he said we

1:34:40

have a documentary coming out and I

1:34:42

can't really talk about it. So you'll

1:34:44

get your answers soon enough. He just

1:34:46

didn't wanna... It was a buy my

1:34:48

book type of scenario, you know? I

1:34:50

guess here's my problem. Is like, if

1:34:53

you are a high level chess player and

1:34:55

I get it that there's levels to this shit.

1:34:57

So like, Magnus Carlson could be up here

1:34:59

and you could be up here, but the gap

1:35:01

there could be massive. I understand that. You

1:35:04

might just have that day, right?

1:35:06

Like this isn't me showing up at

1:35:08

the basketball court and all of

1:35:10

a sudden slam dunking on a six

1:35:12

foot eight black dude, you know

1:35:14

what I mean? This isn't some miracle.

1:35:17

This is like a potentially a somewhat high level

1:35:19

player who just had his day and he

1:35:21

seems to really have it in his. And again,

1:35:23

this guy might have cheated. I don't know. But

1:35:26

isn't that possible? Like poker,

1:35:28

poker is kind of a good example of

1:35:30

like... Yeah, when an amateur wins. And I get

1:35:32

it. There is a lot of luck involved

1:35:34

in poker versus chess. I understand that. There's far

1:35:36

more luck. Yeah, but just because

1:35:38

Matt Moneymaker won the World Series of Poker,

1:35:40

it doesn't mean he cheated. That's what

1:35:42

I'm saying. That's my point. No, I agree

1:35:44

with you. Like if this guy had

1:35:47

been like, I genuinely think he had the

1:35:49

butt plug in or there was some

1:35:51

sort of earpiece that I picked Well no,

1:35:53

he must have genuinely thought he was

1:35:55

cheating because they're making a documentary on it.

1:35:57

You're not making a six part documentary

1:35:59

based on a feeling. Based on the way

1:36:01

he played which I thought was really

1:36:03

interesting. It's like almost a signature, but what

1:36:05

do you mean? There are so many

1:36:07

different Gate, there's so much

1:36:10

different game theory to chess like you can

1:36:12

go out and play like you you

1:36:14

can also go out and play Somebody else

1:36:16

and he said that guy called in

1:36:18

and said are you this guy? He was

1:36:20

playing a bunch of anonymous chess and

1:36:22

the guy said and you're this guy this

1:36:24

guy this guy as well No, but

1:36:26

I'm saying that he was playing his game

1:36:28

He was just calling himself something else

1:36:30

I'm saying like you can go out and

1:36:32

use the Kasparov system to play chess

1:36:34

Yeah, when you're good enough, you can use

1:36:36

other people's fucking like I got what

1:36:38

come on This guy would recognize that didn't

1:36:40

recognize it. So thought he was cheating,

1:36:42

but I had no evidence of it at

1:36:44

all But here's the weird thing is

1:36:46

he also see this is what this is

1:36:48

what I found interesting is later on

1:36:50

He was talking about Woody Harrelson and how

1:36:52

Woody Harrelson had used his own opening

1:36:54

on him But reversed and now he had

1:36:56

never he had never processed that and

1:36:58

he was like I'd never processed it because

1:37:01

It's not something that someone at my level

1:37:03

would do and so there's almost a

1:37:05

part of that too We're like it's like

1:37:07

you are actually potentially that much better

1:37:09

than this Neiman guy But you're missing the

1:37:11

obvious because it's too obvious That's exactly

1:37:13

it and this guy just beat you on

1:37:15

your day because again and it's weird

1:37:17

He's like I also show up late because

1:37:20

I'm pretty lazy and don't really care

1:37:22

about this game Well, that's what it is.

1:37:24

He's a slack stoner chess On the

1:37:26

surface level. Hmm. This is the first podcast

1:37:28

in the history Joe Rogan that stuck

1:37:30

to one topic and one topic only Oh,

1:37:32

good point. Oh good point because he's

1:37:34

not great. I would not want to have

1:37:36

a beer with this guy Well, they

1:37:38

spoke absolutely not spoke about golf just because

1:37:40

it Tony got a word and edgewise

1:37:42

and I couldn't believe how Opposite

1:37:44

I felt to what Tony was

1:37:46

saying because I was an avid golfer

1:37:48

And I never felt even when

1:37:50

I golfed well I felt I would

1:37:52

only think about the thing the

1:37:54

putts that I missed and how I

1:37:56

could have turned that 85

1:37:58

into an eight if I had just fucking

1:38:01

buckled down on those two holes and

1:38:03

when I had a bad game Like

1:38:05

if I had a gun in my

1:38:07

car, we wouldn't be having this conversation. It

1:38:10

is not it's not Golf is

1:38:12

so much fun. Hold on. It's through

1:38:14

attrition. I think you were golfing

1:38:16

around your life I think you're also

1:38:18

forgetting too that everyone's different like

1:38:20

your disposition and I don't mean this

1:38:22

is oh No, no, but what

1:38:24

Tony said was there isn't a person

1:38:26

who goes out there. Oh, yeah,

1:38:28

okay? He was making these rationalization based

1:38:30

on him. his experience and I

1:38:32

just think you were saying that's not

1:38:34

the experience I lived. Yeah, when

1:38:36

you can golf every single day It's

1:38:40

a lot different than guys who go out

1:38:42

once a week and like there's so much pressure

1:38:44

on that You know what? I mean that

1:38:46

was like part of it is like you only

1:38:49

get to golf once or twice a week

1:38:51

or whatever it is But he's golfing every day.

1:38:53

He's probably going twice a day That's his

1:38:55

point Simon's point is like I will hit the

1:38:57

ball a hundred times in maybe a one

1:38:59

or two weeks span Whereas this guy's gonna hit

1:39:01

the ball If you could if

1:39:03

you you had to golf around like

1:39:06

yes, yeah No, I understand well No, that's

1:39:08

what it just seems to me like

1:39:10

another rich person Telling us how rich people

1:39:12

do things and that's not how though

1:39:14

it is for the rest of us Well,

1:39:16

I'm gonna golf this summer by the

1:39:18

way I'm doing it going out there and

1:39:20

Joe for sure would get hope so

1:39:22

you pick the time when you have absolutely

1:39:24

no time Coming to take up golf.

1:39:26

Yeah, nice try pal. You're gonna disappear for

1:39:28

four hours from your newborn child I

1:39:30

think I think the coolest thing from is

1:39:32

when he said He

1:39:34

didn't care much for chess Till

1:39:37

he wanted to be his sister As

1:39:40

a competitive thing and she didn't even

1:39:42

care, but He was at

1:39:44

the right age and that's a diff

1:39:46

interesting dynamic if you go into all

1:39:48

the people who are successful I agree

1:39:50

being a woman should always be Having

1:39:52

an older I

1:39:55

did want to get lost but I thought that

1:39:57

was very telling and then he talked about there's

1:39:59

a three year old. Yeah, it

1:40:01

was already I don't understand that.

1:40:03

Now back to the how can you

1:40:06

be a professional chess player and

1:40:08

lose to a three year old and

1:40:10

a not want to just immediately

1:40:12

get a gun gun in the

1:40:14

back of my throat. Like you would want

1:40:16

to just throttle that child. This is

1:40:18

the most interesting. would that child's

1:40:20

probably been beat up like four

1:40:22

or five times already, which I

1:40:24

think that kid should have come

1:40:26

up because we do talk about

1:40:28

ancient civilizations. And

1:40:30

grandma was telling me

1:40:32

that the church was always

1:40:34

against chess. Yeah.

1:40:38

Why? Well, exactly why. And

1:40:40

I thought maybe that's because it helps create a

1:40:42

logical thinking and then you pay enough chess, you might

1:40:44

be able to go, you know, some of this

1:40:46

God shit bullshit. So I

1:40:48

mean, you can also go back and find

1:40:50

articles written about how chess, like it sounds

1:40:52

like the same articles they write about video

1:40:54

games and TV and rock and roll. they

1:40:56

were like, this will rot the minds of

1:40:58

kids. They will spend their they will waste

1:41:00

their days away playing chess and it will

1:41:02

be a terrible pastime. I can see it

1:41:04

being like a Cold War thing because of

1:41:06

the Russians, you know what I mean? Where

1:41:08

we're just like, they're good at chess. So

1:41:10

chess is terrible. But upon some research, the

1:41:12

exact origins of chess are unclear. But

1:41:15

it is widely believed to have

1:41:17

been invented in India around the sixth

1:41:19

century AD. Interesting. The game

1:41:21

involved from an earlier Indian strategy

1:41:23

called chaturanga, which was played on

1:41:25

an eight by eight board and

1:41:27

featured pieces representing

1:41:29

infantry, cavalry, elephants and chariots, similar

1:41:31

to modern ponds, knights, bishops and

1:41:33

rooks. Because that's the whole battle

1:41:35

thing. You think it's something to

1:41:37

do with kings. But it

1:41:40

was there were some people were anti.

1:41:42

was it's the game that said that the

1:41:44

test of time. Do you know how

1:41:46

to play or have you ever looked into

1:41:48

how to play go? No, because

1:41:50

that really is the oldest game, right?

1:41:52

Go has been around very easy game.

1:41:54

No, the very not to be a

1:41:56

master at this is what I'm saying.

1:41:59

is the oldest game I said did

1:42:01

I say the oldest one of the

1:42:03

old rules simple rules maybe only have

1:42:05

four moves and go you can do

1:42:07

each time you have to jump here

1:42:09

yeah you know what I mean the

1:42:11

same thing with I don't know I've

1:42:13

never played go I've never looked at

1:42:15

you know you've played chess before I

1:42:17

haven't played on can only go to

1:42:20

the first time the one yeah this

1:42:22

can only go and go yeah the

1:42:24

rules make the game right because if

1:42:26

you do whatever you want to smash

1:42:28

the clean off I win who's are

1:42:30

the first to be aggressive I mean

1:42:32

the rules make the game of every

1:42:34

game but then this guy can play

1:42:36

this game with 10 people at the

1:42:38

same time that's with no board and

1:42:40

that's the blind right blindfolded yeah but

1:42:43

just like when you see the movie

1:42:45

there's two guys in cells and they're

1:42:47

playing this game do you want to

1:42:49

hear people like pawn to rook for

1:42:51

I'm like a guy you lost me

1:42:53

I'm out I have no idea there's

1:42:55

no way I can memorize like which

1:42:57

one's the wrong they've they or they've

1:42:59

done it in a movie where they

1:43:01

haven't seen each other two years yeah

1:43:03

through the mail yeah on this move

1:43:06

this remembering categorizing and I'm Tony loves

1:43:08

the brain and like no sloppy top

1:43:10

but people who excel at stuff and

1:43:12

I think it was right there to

1:43:14

see what this guy was ticking but

1:43:16

you think Tony is like that Tony

1:43:18

loves successful people and what goes on

1:43:20

their head how he like they were

1:43:22

asking is there a game ship and

1:43:24

trying to get in people's head you

1:43:26

would in MMA and he said I

1:43:29

really don't think so the only thing

1:43:31

that throws you off is if someone's

1:43:33

playing in a way that you think

1:43:35

they may be cheating which of course

1:43:37

you do I remember the one time

1:43:39

he got up and left and he

1:43:41

was going to take a shit yeah

1:43:43

but you know we hear about these

1:43:45

stories with him because he has seemed

1:43:47

like the bad boy of chess if

1:43:50

there wasn't but he just seems like

1:43:52

yeah the best is him when he's

1:43:54

like eight playing Kasparov and he looks

1:43:56

so bored and frustrated because Kasparov is

1:43:58

like deep in the tank for every

1:44:00

move maximum clock Slowly hitting it. Magnus

1:44:02

Carlson standing up. He looks so bummed.

1:44:04

I Don't mind person. I haven't seen

1:44:06

any videos of Magnus Carlson ever. You're

1:44:08

lucky. It's not it hasn't infested your

1:44:10

fucking yeah No, and he said there's

1:44:13

no he said there's no grandmaster whose

1:44:15

child is a grandmaster. I Could be

1:44:17

mistaken. I thought there was a girl

1:44:19

on YouTube who her mom is a

1:44:21

grandmaster That

1:44:24

was the girl from the gorge On

1:44:31

his purpose is to inspire people to

1:44:33

play chess Because

1:44:36

like who makes Can

1:44:38

anyone make a chessboard and sell it that

1:44:40

there's no copyright or Yes, anybody can

1:44:42

make a chessboard and sell it. Is that

1:44:44

not such an arrogant thing to say

1:44:46

though Like what did I say? That's not

1:44:48

you him. Oh just the thought of

1:44:50

like I think it's my job to keep

1:44:52

this 2000 year old game alive potentially

1:44:54

five thousand year old game alive. no

1:44:59

Way why is why are we talking to

1:45:01

you right now? It's not going anywhere You

1:45:04

want people like Queen's Gambit brought all this

1:45:06

dude chess has been around it's gonna stay But

1:45:08

I think the AI Maybe that's an

1:45:11

interest what he thought about it if

1:45:13

it but it just can just beat

1:45:15

you a chess And it actually knows

1:45:17

who probably remember God said saying that

1:45:19

if you yeah, he probably knows who

1:45:21

it's playing Yeah, it's like guys knows

1:45:23

who's going to win But that's dumb

1:45:25

because like when I play a video

1:45:27

game I know unequivocally that if if

1:45:29

it turned the AI up to ten

1:45:31

or a hundred that it would crush

1:45:33

me Time and time again. There's no

1:45:35

doubt in my mind That's why we

1:45:37

play against each other because I'm like

1:45:39

this Korean kid will also crush me

1:45:42

But I have a chance and right

1:45:44

Like if we play if I if I

1:45:46

sat you down to play FIFA right

1:45:49

now against the computer on super all -star

1:45:51

difficulty You get smashed, right? Whereas if you

1:45:53

played me who hasn't played in fucking

1:45:55

seven years The problem with the

1:45:57

video games just side note was always that

1:45:59

media was too easy, but hard was way

1:46:01

too hard. Yeah. For the AI, right? Yeah,

1:46:03

you really get a happy medium. In a

1:46:05

first person shooter, they couldn't hit you at

1:46:07

all on medium, and then you put it

1:46:09

on hard and headshot, you're dead. So then

1:46:11

you have to go back to medium and

1:46:14

just be like a king. Yeah. Of the

1:46:16

dummies. Well, that's, that's gonna

1:46:18

be the big competition now to chess,

1:46:20

I guess, but they'll just have chess

1:46:22

in it is GTA 6. They'll

1:46:24

have chess in GTA 6? Sure.

1:46:26

Well, Aiden Ross was on milk and

1:46:28

he said he's going to have

1:46:30

his own server in GTA with his

1:46:32

own coin. I know this sounds

1:46:34

sketchy, but he's saying you will be

1:46:37

able to make money in the

1:46:39

server. That already exists. There's nothing new

1:46:41

there. It sounds like a crypto

1:46:43

egg thing. If I kill you, you

1:46:45

lose everything. You can cash out.

1:46:47

If Aiden Ross kills you or you

1:46:49

kill. He's gonna make his own

1:46:51

sort of world where you can money.

1:46:53

So what does that mean? How

1:46:55

does that work? So you go play

1:46:57

GTA on his account? So

1:47:00

one of the Sidemen, Vic, the

1:47:02

Indian one. Yeah, I know him.

1:47:04

Yeah. He, uh, I

1:47:07

saw him in an interview where the guy asked

1:47:09

me was like, how much money did you

1:47:11

make off Minecraft servers? Like

1:47:13

all told. And he was like, Oh,

1:47:15

I think he's like over the years,

1:47:17

like 5 million. Yeah, he's the second

1:47:19

richest Sidemen. Yeah, behind KSI. Behind KSI.

1:47:21

But the point is got prime money.

1:47:23

There's a couple ways to do it.

1:47:25

What Kamara's talking about is different, but

1:47:27

a lot of people will just like,

1:47:29

uh, you rent servers. Like right now,

1:47:31

for example, GTA 13 years later, still

1:47:33

has people with servers online. Yeah, I

1:47:35

just why? Why would you participate in

1:47:37

somebody's server? Well, okay, so there's one,

1:47:39

for example, like money. I forget the

1:47:41

name of it, but it's so fucking

1:47:44

interactive, Simon. So you either log in

1:47:46

as a cop or a robber. have

1:47:48

to be, first of all, you have

1:47:50

to be approved. So like, if you

1:47:52

jump in this thing and you fuck

1:47:54

around, you're out and you're never coming

1:47:56

back. There's no like, so if

1:47:58

you play a cop, you literally drive around. as

1:48:00

a cop and you try to be the cop

1:48:02

yeah and dude you book people in you like

1:48:04

instead of playing the AI you're playing like real

1:48:06

life cops there's a hundred there's a hundred real

1:48:08

people on the map 50 of them are robbers

1:48:10

and 50 of them are cops and when they're

1:48:12

chasing someone they're like on the mic together like

1:48:14

he's on the fucking so that's what I'm saying

1:48:17

is like so those guys will pay like you

1:48:19

know five or ten bucks a month for access

1:48:21

to the server and whatever they want to jump

1:48:23

in they jump in and whoever's running the server

1:48:25

they pay a server fee where they have their

1:48:27

own server running and then they collect money from

1:48:29

so what Kamar is saying is like he's saying

1:48:31

he's gonna have a token attached to the server

1:48:33

so I'm not sure what that means well

1:48:35

okay you can do that a million ways

1:48:38

you could you could just so they're gonna pay

1:48:40

you and his token is that the idea

1:48:42

I mean what you could do is you could

1:48:44

just cash out I don't know like I'd

1:48:46

GTA hasn't been released yet so maybe there's something

1:48:48

within the game that allows you to do

1:48:50

that or you could just set up your own

1:48:52

bullshit cryptocurrency but this is just one guy

1:48:54

you can buy crypto through the game like your

1:48:56

character can buy crypto and you're think on

1:48:58

his server I mean keep in mind anyone if

1:49:00

you get a PlayStation could get into it

1:49:03

in the last game one of the big things

1:49:05

was on your phone you could access the

1:49:07

stock market like

1:49:09

so when you play GTA 5

1:49:11

your character could pull out your phone

1:49:13

and you could access the stock

1:49:15

market and you could buy stocks in

1:49:17

like 15 20 companies whatever for

1:49:19

your character yeah and the idea was

1:49:21

this you

1:49:23

you ran missions that you knew

1:49:25

we're gonna affect certain companies

1:49:28

so you would go and collect

1:49:30

all your money and then you'd go run

1:49:32

this mission where it's like you know it's gonna

1:49:34

shoot this company you buy Pfizer stock and

1:49:36

then you start a pandemic precisely yeah well sure

1:49:38

that's I mean yeah and it'd be stupid

1:49:40

if like you were gonna make this crazy video

1:49:42

game we'll have no crypto component to the

1:49:44

whatsoever yeah so what kamara saying is it's so

1:49:46

realistic that they were most likely be like

1:49:49

some sort of I mean I'm sure there'll be

1:49:51

a mission where like you get a million

1:49:53

in crypto or something like that who and what

1:49:55

I think kamara saying is the whole online

1:49:57

thing will revolve around but if Aiden kills you

1:49:59

you lose every So you are gambling but

1:50:01

let me give you an example Simon So

1:50:05

given that the last game ran for

1:50:07

13 years online and still has people playing

1:50:09

there is a world where rock star

1:50:12

could create a limited number of A cryptocurrency

1:50:14

not even limited They could say a

1:50:16

trillion right and each one's worth a penny

1:50:18

and it always stay at a penny

1:50:20

But that's how you interact on the game

1:50:22

you go on to the market and

1:50:24

again It could fluctuate it could go you

1:50:26

could buy like right now you could

1:50:28

go and buy, you know I don't know

1:50:31

a thousand dollars worth of GTA crypto.

1:50:33

There'll be tons of scammers. Of course This

1:50:36

is gonna be the best thing

1:50:38

ever But your

1:50:40

mate your brain just starts to go out

1:50:42

and then things like chess like where does

1:50:44

it come in someone's life? Only

1:50:46

they hear about Magnus Carlson as an

1:50:48

inspiration or their sister like Simon. I'm not

1:50:50

gonna lie I was thinking about it.

1:50:52

I was like when GTA drops. I was

1:50:54

thinking about doing Like just

1:50:57

trying it out like I know I'm 44

1:50:59

42 whatever the fuck I am but Doing

1:51:01

like a character and streaming two hours a night

1:51:03

So like I'd be like a cop like I

1:51:05

dress up like a cop every night. I'd

1:51:08

be like officer Floyd whatever I think

1:51:10

you just sounds like a cop. Yeah,

1:51:12

I think you just feel stupid Well

1:51:14

again, it was like we have to battle through

1:51:16

yeah Well, it's like that guy today that we saw

1:51:18

with the fucking The GoPro on

1:51:21

his head doing all that

1:51:23

shit like he looked ridiculous big

1:51:25

skill that I've discovered is

1:51:27

just talking to nothing And knowing

1:51:29

someone's listening chat. No knowing

1:51:31

that no one's listening at first

1:51:33

is the problem So you're

1:51:35

talking to no one. Yeah, but

1:51:37

you talk you talk as

1:51:39

if Someone is

1:51:41

listening and no one knows

1:51:43

anything That's the

1:51:45

other thing I think that is

1:51:47

a notable thing you're over descriptive

1:51:49

you Of course, we know

1:51:51

that but someone doesn't know that it's always

1:51:54

for kids who do not know everything Always

1:51:56

I mean I think that makes sense, right?

1:51:59

The weirdest thing to me about streamers is

1:52:01

like if you go into a stream and

1:52:03

the guys got 50 people watching And you

1:52:05

go in the chat and you say some

1:52:07

funny shit There's a good chance that he

1:52:09

sees that and maybe reacts to it or

1:52:11

is like all Floyd's you know what I

1:52:13

mean Aiden Ross like if you type something

1:52:15

in that chat, dude, it's fucking He's

1:52:19

getting paid for everyone that goes in. Yeah,

1:52:21

I know the super check Of course, I

1:52:23

know I know but those go by so

1:52:25

fast So you're hoping that somebody's it nobody

1:52:27

say it's just going to buy it like

1:52:29

fucking mock speed I do miss the era

1:52:31

where they had the text to chat. That

1:52:33

was like one of my favorite fucking They

1:52:35

all turned it off because people started spamming

1:52:37

it But that was the best when it

1:52:39

was like clog up their feed. Well, so

1:52:41

the idea was that you would pay $5

1:52:44

and You're so Simon you pay five bucks

1:52:46

and whatever you texted would be read out

1:52:48

So they didn't have a choice. They couldn't

1:52:50

miss it. This voice would be like Aiden

1:52:53

Ross's mom is so fat that there's a

1:52:55

you know what I mean, and I've seen

1:52:57

some yeah And then people started spamming it

1:52:59

where they would just hit L 75 Fucking

1:53:01

times and the text to chat would be

1:53:03

like a la la la la la la la.

1:53:05

It was fucking annoying as shit Why am

1:53:07

I 40 and still watching this garbage? It's

1:53:10

just because I think you're

1:53:12

we are mesmerized by the

1:53:15

Shameless just talking to no one and

1:53:17

it working sort of thing because

1:53:19

you're Thing is when you see anyone

1:53:22

doing like but they're not doing

1:53:24

anything But then you realize how much

1:53:26

they do It's not something

1:53:28

you'd want to do like you

1:53:30

what we're saying that guy who was

1:53:32

filming outside the cafe. Yeah, and James

1:53:36

called you said if they give you a

1:53:38

million dollars like I guess I would be but

1:53:40

what about if you were just following me Could

1:53:43

you do that be someone's because of

1:53:45

long as I have a Video that actually

1:53:47

seems kind of fun. Here's the thing

1:53:49

for a day Here's the thing with events

1:53:52

how interested your life is Well, you're

1:53:54

not you're filming someone your life doesn't matter.

1:53:56

I don't want you to take this

1:53:58

the wrong No, no, I'm saying it depends

1:54:00

how interesting your life. Yeah, yeah here

1:54:02

This is because I'm watching you walk around

1:54:04

if you're going out and fucking like

1:54:06

girls all the time and getting in fights

1:54:08

I mean, I'm tuned in you know.

1:54:11

Well, no, this is what I was gonna

1:54:13

say like if some Like good

1:54:15

-looking 22 year old gentleman came out to me

1:54:17

and was like you have some skills with a camera

1:54:19

And you know how to edit do you want

1:54:21

to start following me around? I have a minor YouTube

1:54:23

presence that I'm trying to build I would think

1:54:25

about it for sure Yeah, and again the reason

1:54:27

is is because like that's that could be your meal

1:54:29

ticket But if you're 20 you'd be doing it.

1:54:31

Oh if I was 20 I'd a hundred percent

1:54:33

be doing it a hundred percent Raring

1:54:36

the fucking thing I have it on my

1:54:38

head. Yeah a hundred percent. We just

1:54:40

missed a hundred percent But I mean Magnus

1:54:42

is only 34 so he's got a

1:54:44

long way to live fuck this guy This

1:54:46

was one of the most boring episodes

1:54:48

ever in the history one of the most

1:54:50

focused episodes though I will give that

1:54:52

to no hunting no MMA no cancel culture.

1:54:54

No USC totally and yet it was

1:54:57

still absolute trash No, no, but hear me

1:54:59

out if If

1:55:01

you're into chess which you're not and

1:55:03

I'm not this is actually the dream

1:55:05

because like come on saying if this

1:55:07

had been Lou Elizondo and He only

1:55:09

talked about he just stuck 100 %

1:55:11

to aliens and at no point veered

1:55:13

off You'd be ecstatic. Well if Lou

1:55:15

Elizondo comes on and talks about COVID.

1:55:17

I quit this podcast That's

1:55:20

symbol. That's why I call unicorn. Oh,

1:55:22

I forgot to mention earlier. There was

1:55:24

a great part where Joe was bragging

1:55:26

about how McCullough

1:55:29

know whoever one of the

1:55:31

COVID guys was his most

1:55:33

popular downloaded episode ever and He's

1:55:35

like yeah, we got like 125 million and

1:55:37

then you just hear Jamie in the back and

1:55:39

go actually Was

1:55:42

the most popular space that brought

1:55:44

me a little bit of which we

1:55:46

take for granted here That

1:55:48

we know what people really want

1:55:50

and that's Bob Lazier, I forgot

1:55:52

to say They did

1:55:54

talk a little bit a

1:55:56

bit, but I remember specifically when

1:55:58

Malone was on said,

1:56:00

if one thing he said was true, there's

1:56:02

gonna be a world to her to Joe

1:56:05

and the next day there was a world

1:56:07

to her that's on Joe, on Joe, on

1:56:09

Joe, I give it a, I give it

1:56:11

a three. Um,

1:56:14

who are this is Carlton. Yeah.

1:56:16

It's two hours. It's two hours. No.

1:56:19

Tony wanted to be there and then was like,

1:56:21

I fucked up. Oh, one and a half. Oh,

1:56:23

he fucked up. One and a half. This is

1:56:25

really what just. Yeah.

1:56:27

For me. Yeah. So I'm going to go

1:56:29

with zero. Oh, wow. Well, I have to get

1:56:31

to that minus 2 .5. Yeah. Well, I think

1:56:33

you missed the boat there. All right, gang.

1:56:35

That's it. If you made it this far, thank

1:56:37

you so much. We appreciate you. It is

1:56:39

sweeps month. So if you want to support the

1:56:41

show, head over to patreon.com slash JRE podcast. Simon

1:56:46

can't hold it back. You

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can support the show for as

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little as $5 a month for

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that $5 a month. You

1:56:54

will get the post shows, the show, the show, we shoot the

1:56:56

shit. You might see the demise of the

1:56:58

show on that show. Who knows? Anyway, we

1:57:00

hope you have a great week. We

1:57:02

hope you enjoy your weekend and as

1:57:04

usual, keep your eyes open.

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