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Floyd. He's like the guy in

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the loudspeaker. Welcome to the Joe

1:05

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is always Y. Kumar. Welcome

1:11

to the party. Y'Shala. And Simon.

1:13

Hello. What we do here is

1:15

very simple. The three of us

1:17

have listened every episode of

1:20

the Joe Rogan experience

1:22

this week. We're gonna rate each episode

1:24

as well as the week on a

1:26

scale of one to five Jamie Vernon's.

1:28

We're not going to talk about each

1:30

guest, the talking points, give our opinions

1:33

this, that, and the next. Are you

1:35

too phoning it like a drug dealer right

1:37

now? Glad to ask. This is the

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only device that has our professional email.

1:42

Okay. I'll where I'd source patrons from.

1:44

Hello everyone, welcome back. And

1:46

it's good to be back. A big

1:48

shout out to the Patrons, past and

1:50

future and present. But this week, or

1:52

it was a couple weeks ago, we

1:54

give a shout out to

1:57

Archie. O'erchie! O'erchie!

2:01

Does it just Archie or

2:03

does it have a last

2:06

do they have a last

2:08

name you don't want to

2:11

try and say I

2:13

read it and then

2:15

I lost it was

2:17

around March 19th Archie?

2:19

Coonrod Yeah, I'm just

2:22

I'm just gonna assume

2:24

that you butchered that

2:26

Can I get a

2:28

selling? I can't see.

2:30

I still don't know where I'm

2:33

looking. Where are we looking? Whatever,

2:35

let's keep going. Where's his coon

2:37

rod? Where's his coon rod? I

2:41

thought he was going to be more

2:43

clear. Oh, it is. Yeah, wow. So

2:45

good to be back. I missed everyone.

2:48

My apologies, Kamar. That definitely says, Koon

2:50

Rod. I thought he was trying to

2:52

pronounce like a K-E-U-N. Yeah, I was

2:55

expecting like a C and a U,

2:57

like some sort of, I don't know,

2:59

anyway. Kamar, how was Morocco? It changed

3:02

my life. That was a lot. That

3:04

was the only patron. I'm sure there

3:06

were more we probably miss someone that's

3:08

on me. That's on me. I should

3:11

have been on top of all Khmer

3:13

was I am and that's on me

3:15

too I knew this moment was gonna

3:18

come Whatever we'll work it out next

3:20

week. We'll get to all the patrons.

3:22

We missed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Come on

3:25

the same one of the highlights of

3:27

Morocco was listening to you guys I

3:29

have a really tough time leaving that

3:32

but that's fine doing this podcast let

3:34

alone having to on the fourth night

3:36

on the fourth night in the Sahara

3:39

Yeah. And all it had was you

3:41

too in my ear. Well, that's... You

3:43

were lost in the desert. I got

3:46

lost in the desert. Well... You actually

3:48

right next to the house? No, no.

3:50

I went to some other structure or

3:52

something. Okay. But you can't just walk

3:55

in a straight direction in the deserts,

3:57

as you would hope, sort of... Got

3:59

a meander. Or walk on the, because

4:02

of the dunes. On the crest of

4:04

the dunes, yeah. Interesting. And so you

4:06

get off course, but I said, I'll

4:09

walk like an hour west and then

4:11

walk back an hour east and I'll

4:13

be back to where I started. And

4:16

it seems like a terrible idea. You

4:18

got about a half hour in, went

4:20

have a cigarette and didn't have a

4:23

lighter. So I guess I got to

4:25

walk back the way I. There's nothing

4:27

in the desert. Your sense of and

4:30

then even though my phone the shitty

4:32

compass was saying this way my instinct

4:34

was Arguing with it, and I just

4:36

ended up way the fuck anyways for

4:39

about an hour Was it right? It

4:41

was right. It was right. Yeah, who'd

4:43

have thought who'd have thunk it? But

4:46

on the acid you just second guess

4:48

you second guess yourself, but I swear

4:50

to God it might have been the

4:53

acid I swear I could see Almost

4:55

like a matrix and then the stars

4:57

on the other side like a giant

5:00

fibonacci structure, because I don't know when

5:02

it's no light at just 360 degrees.

5:04

The vastness. It's something, actually I think

5:07

you could experience in Saskatchewan, but six

5:09

hours north from anywhere. But just complete

5:11

nothing, no light. It's really interesting. And

5:14

the moon rises. The moon rises. Like

5:16

you think it's the Sun it tears

5:18

through the horizon and then you can't

5:21

see the stars anymore and it's bright

5:23

here. It's really I got some cool

5:25

pictures post them likely a scam Unbelievable

5:27

back to the back. All right, we

5:30

want to go over the guest list

5:32

this week. Yeah, it was amazing. I

5:34

have a couple stories about tell them

5:37

in the post Joe Good to be

5:39

back. We start off this week with

5:41

2298 Kurt Metzger And then it followed

5:44

it with 2299 Dave Smith. We finished

5:46

off with a Saturday episode, which I

5:48

really was resenting 2,300 Kyle. Yeah, baby.

5:51

I mean, it must have been nice

5:53

for you getting back and having a

5:55

light work sort of week. I thought

5:58

he was gonna get two episodes. I

6:00

was like, why can I get this?

6:02

I thought that too. But even then,

6:05

the third one was light work. Like

6:07

I knew when I saw it pop

6:09

up, I was like, this is gonna

6:11

be an easy two and a half

6:14

hours of like non. I listened to

6:16

Bert on a car ride and I

6:18

listened to that FBI guy just on

6:21

a day. So I did listen to

6:23

a couple, I didn't take the compete

6:25

off. This was disappointing to come back

6:28

to. But who's talking with the Homo

6:30

history? History Homos? Me. It would. And

6:32

Pat. It would. Pat put me on

6:35

it. It would. Well, no. Well, it

6:37

can't be. But it would lend itself

6:39

that there is a repeat of messaging.

6:42

Especially having Kurt Mesker and Dave Smith

6:44

on. And I think Kurt was just

6:46

on a couple months ago. He was

6:49

on the history homos? No, on. Oh,

6:51

on Joe. He was just, he was

6:53

just on, I swear. Yeah, not long

6:55

ago. I mean, Dave Smith was also

6:58

just on. I think there was a,

7:00

there was a theme though, interesting to

7:02

what we ask about, but again, it's

7:05

these, this reoccurring guess with just the

7:07

same message. You know what it feels

7:09

like? It feels like when Joe brings

7:12

these two guys on, this is him

7:14

being like, I'm bringing two people from

7:16

the left on to sort of see

7:19

it from the other side. And I'm

7:21

just like, I don't really, I don't

7:23

know if that's it. Yeah, no. But

7:26

do you agree with me though? This

7:28

is the counterpoint. that we were asking

7:30

for. But do you see what I

7:33

mean? Like, do you get what I'm

7:35

saying? It feels like it used to

7:37

be in this scenario. Maybe he'd have,

7:40

like, a Kyle Kalinsky or a David

7:42

Pacman. And they don't exist anymore to

7:44

Joe. Yeah. So now he's like, well,

7:46

Dave will come on and set everything

7:49

straight. I mean, so now he's like,

7:51

well, Dave will come on and set

7:53

everything straight. know who I'm talking about

7:56

Charlie Kirk yeah of course is not

7:58

the right guy I'm thinking of yeah

8:00

he like argues with college kids yeah

8:03

big head there's the others there's the

8:05

Canadian guy as well Crowder but you're

8:07

not talking about Crowder you're talking about

8:10

Charlie no I know I know I

8:12

know I know we consider him American

8:14

now okay whatever I'm much y'all but

8:17

I didn't even know Crowder was Canadian

8:19

I think he's full American I didn't

8:21

know he was either. He walks around

8:24

with a holstered gun. I'm not saying

8:26

he's not American. I'm just saying he

8:28

in arguments often is like, I'm Canadian.

8:30

I grew up in Canada. So he

8:33

says that. I mean, it gives you

8:35

a broader background. I'm just saying. Do

8:37

you want to rate this this week?

8:40

Is that what we do here? Yeah,

8:42

I can't see it being very, I

8:44

can't see it being wildly high. No.

8:48

I'm going to give it a

8:50

two. Yeah, I ring in with

8:52

the two. Welcome back, Khmer. We

8:55

have an agreement. I mean, just

8:57

the repeat of guests recently seems

8:59

like we're really just churning the

9:01

wheel here. Like, it feels like

9:04

he can't, some people are now

9:06

refusing to go on his show.

9:08

Yeah. And I also have issue

9:11

that, um, you do not read

9:13

any of my Josh, Dubin notes.

9:15

time to craft. We didn't read

9:18

any of them. None of them.

9:20

We didn't read one. Simon said,

9:22

well, look what he has here

9:24

and I just, I want to,

9:27

for the record, terrible, you're not

9:29

terrible. No, in all fairness though,

9:31

in that episode we talked about

9:34

nothing to do. So just for

9:36

the record, Ohio for questionable witness,

9:38

shitty lawyers, detective trying to bang

9:40

his wife. Hopefully this raises awareness

9:43

or. actually gets them out less

9:45

Joe talks better the cast so

9:47

you just went over your notes

9:50

that I didn't for Josh do

9:52

that okay okay Dave Smith you

9:54

know Give Dave credit that radar,

9:57

like at some point in this

9:59

podcast, he was like, look, if

10:01

we end up in a war

10:03

with, I don't know if it

10:06

was Syria, Yemen, wherever the fucking.

10:08

Syria, oh no, Iran, Iran. Sure,

10:10

he was like, if we, if

10:13

Trump ends up going to war

10:15

with Iran, I made a mistake

10:17

in voting for him. Because he's

10:20

like, it's just the status quo,

10:22

nothing has changed. Because Dave is

10:24

already, you can tell. He's like,

10:26

this guy's surrounding himself with people

10:29

that I don't like and that

10:31

I don't think are going to

10:33

help the, you know what I

10:36

mean? Well, I think Joe is

10:38

already feeling like he made a

10:40

mistake. You see, here's the thing

10:42

with Joe, he didn't have to,

10:45

he could have supported Trump and

10:47

said, I'm going to vote for

10:49

Trump, without like throwing all of

10:52

that. I just I don't I

10:54

don't get why he did that.

10:56

Oh, because he really thought Trump

10:59

was going to change the country

11:01

for the better. I mean, he

11:03

still stands by the. They brought

11:05

all these immigrants here to win

11:08

the election. Like he's despite them,

11:10

despite Trump winning the election and

11:12

the Democrats not winning the election

11:15

through illegal votes, he still stands

11:17

by that white places like. Paris

11:20

led in so many immigrants was

11:22

because they were trying to get

11:24

them to vote a certain way.

11:26

I don't know how their voting

11:28

system works. I couldn't comment. If

11:30

you were to do some research

11:32

and find that out, then I

11:34

think that would give proof that

11:36

that's probably what's happening in a

11:38

lot of places. Well, I mean,

11:40

that backfired horribly on them. And

11:42

it's on the backs of these

11:44

wars. Like usually the displacement was

11:46

mainly when the Syrian conflict broke.

11:48

Yeah talking to Pat last week

11:50

he obviously reads a lot no

11:52

didn't open my mind. I just

11:54

realized how little Like I don't

11:56

know a lot about. Oh, pats

11:58

on every fucking. A lot of

12:00

things. Pats on every message. I

12:02

know a lot about what I

12:04

know about. Well, I'll tell you

12:06

this though, when you're sitting someplace

12:08

else, you realize none of this

12:11

matters. What do you mean? Well,

12:13

it just doesn't. Who, who, how

12:15

much money they spend here, how

12:17

much they cut or how many

12:19

people lose their jobs from. Do

12:21

they talk about aliens over there?

12:23

Come? Apparently sailors do. So that

12:25

was it does not wait a

12:27

minute. I was only tell you

12:29

Fisher this how can you but

12:31

you one of the first things

12:33

you told us was that Morocco

12:35

is a 34% unemployment rate. How

12:37

did you know that if it

12:39

wasn't if it's on an issue?

12:41

So like you can't act like

12:43

all the numbers. No, no, it's

12:45

compared to compared to this country.

12:47

It's poor. It's poor country. Yeah,

12:49

I understand. This is fucked here

12:51

like people begging the streets for

12:53

food. Well, the goats are a

12:55

dead giveaway. Goats, yeah, goats help.

12:57

I think anywhere that has goats

12:59

on the street is... There's wealth

13:01

there though, I mean, and the

13:03

discrepancy is much worse than it

13:05

is here, but the middle class

13:07

is just lower. I guess inflation

13:09

hasn't hit it. I'm not sure

13:12

why. He's going to shoot Morocco

13:14

into everything here. How did this

13:16

come up? I'm going to try

13:18

not to. Dave Smith. Liberal outrage.

13:20

Crashing into the Tesla. That sort

13:22

of stuff they were there to

13:24

laugh about that and that's all

13:26

manufactured well and that that is

13:28

the second the bar is so

13:30

low hold on there's people get

13:32

paid to do it that shit

13:34

is manufactured I think the sentiment

13:36

oh I agree the sentiment is

13:38

real yeah is more than real

13:40

no no I agree but I

13:42

but are you just like the

13:44

left finally sees what I see

13:46

about Elon and they got it

13:48

right no I know I said

13:50

this all along like our I

13:52

happen to align with them in

13:54

my dislike for Elon but for

13:56

totally different reasons. Like I don't

13:58

hate Elon because he's with Trump.

14:00

Yeah. Elon long before that. Long

14:02

before Trump is even in the

14:04

fucking conversation. That's one thing we've

14:06

been steadfast with I think over

14:08

six years is a distaste for

14:10

Elon. That we've always felt that

14:12

Elon was a phony. Yeah. Well

14:15

they just made this documentary crash

14:17

and it feels like if they

14:19

what they're doing if say this

14:21

is what they call a correction

14:23

and it's about whatever they've done

14:25

or done is going to make

14:27

things go the right direction. People

14:29

are going to know in six

14:31

months. Here's what I have failed

14:33

to succeed. This is what I

14:35

don't understand. Okay. You have a

14:37

company who manufactures their shit in

14:39

America. Okay. Yeah. They still. Like

14:41

let's say you're making a fucking,

14:43

I don't know, a baby stroller.

14:45

Sure. In the US. In the

14:47

US. You are still going to

14:49

have to get parts from other

14:51

places. There are certain things that

14:53

just aren't made in the US

14:55

that probably go in that baby

14:57

stroller. Yeah, I think Trump's idea

14:59

is that every single thing now

15:01

made in that baby stroller he

15:03

wants manufactured in the US, top

15:05

to bottom. Well, I mean, you're

15:07

going to have to like create

15:09

the, listen, for all the things

15:11

you're going to have to make

15:13

across the board, forget just baby

15:16

strollers. It's impossible. You're not necessarily

15:18

getting those parts from Singapore because

15:20

they're cheaper. You're getting them because

15:22

that's where they're fucking made. Simon.

15:24

They're saying build of plant to

15:26

do that here and then you

15:28

don't obey the tariffs. And I'm

15:30

not saying that's right. Either way,

15:32

Kamar, the problem is this is

15:34

like your iPhone. Get ready for

15:36

it to be. Well, okay. So

15:38

think about it that way. If

15:40

I told you it's $15 for

15:42

them to make an iPhone manufactured.

15:44

When that iPhone cost them $400

15:46

to manufacture in the US, how

15:48

much do you think they're going

15:50

to sell it to you for

15:52

then? I feel like that's almost

15:54

arguing against your point because... They're

15:56

making such a crazy markup on

15:58

that iPhone. Oh, I agree. There's

16:00

plenty of room for them to

16:02

absorb these tariffs now. You know

16:04

what I mean? Even at $400,

16:06

Matt, selling you the phone for

16:08

$1,200, they're still tripling their money.

16:10

And a huge thing. But we

16:12

know that no company on earth

16:14

has ever just. had a 25%

16:16

tariff tax on them where they're

16:19

not passing that on to you.

16:21

No, a hundred percent. I agree,

16:23

there's room. I'm saying to get

16:25

it made here, to pay American

16:27

workers, to do all of that

16:29

stuff, to build that iPhone here,

16:31

because they're already charging you such

16:33

an insane price, they can probably

16:35

do that and still double their

16:37

money, which is what a normal...

16:39

The problem is, you need Americans

16:41

that want these jobs. Well, that's

16:43

interesting. Sorry, what did you want

16:45

to say? The job to the

16:47

factory. Well, I was saying our

16:49

cheese is so expensive because of

16:51

tariffs between provinces and countries. But

16:53

the value of something is based

16:55

on whether you want it or

16:57

you don't want it or how

16:59

much you want it. Like a

17:01

phone, whatever that tariff is be,

17:03

I'm going to just suck it

17:05

up for a year. Or how

17:07

much you need it. Like back

17:09

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17:11

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17:13

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52:10

Kurt Metzger. He's so funny,

52:12

Kurt Metzger is fucking hilarious. Yeah,

52:14

he is, yeah. Like, Joe misses

52:16

99% of all the jokes, but

52:18

he doesn't stop. It's weird that

52:20

he didn't, it just don't, I

52:22

mean, it's really didn't just have

52:24

Kyle and Kurt on together. Because

52:27

those guys work together so much. I

52:29

don't think they do anymore, do they?

52:31

They did. Yeah, I don't think they

52:33

do. Okay, maybe there's an issue there,

52:35

some sort of an issue with some

52:38

strife. Yeah, who knows? I would say maybe

52:40

it was suggested and they're

52:42

like, well, hopefully I can stand on

52:44

my own, it's like Kurt and or

52:46

Kyle and. Interesting. Which would

52:49

be? They couldn't. They no Kurt could

52:51

but fucking other guys was so like you

52:53

think some of the parts since we're doing

52:55

this together how it's funny how that worked

52:58

out there They would have better had they

53:00

just been on together No, I don't think

53:02

they would I like Kurt on his own.

53:04

I just wouldn't have had Kyle done again

53:07

on I guess is the stock market

53:09

insane? Yeah, because we're just talking

53:11

about that is it insane that it

53:13

exists you mean? It's insane how it

53:16

Exists or I mean it's the whole

53:18

reason why we do exist or have

53:20

anything we Like that's pretty listen

53:22

the idea the stock market is like

53:24

many things we've done where the

53:27

initial idea of it is Really great

53:29

and we've just done this thing to

53:31

it where we've perverted it. Yeah like

53:33

the idea of you investing in a

53:35

company that you believe in and then

53:38

that company having your money to make

53:40

that company better and then later on

53:42

when that company's worth a ton of

53:44

money you reap the rewards because you

53:46

were an initial investor like that's all

53:48

great and good and that's how we

53:51

innovate that's how companies become great

53:53

and good there's nothing wrong with that

53:55

we've just we've let banks create all

53:57

like the derivatives and all this fucking

53:59

crazy shit. Yeah, that only they really

54:01

know how do you, like if you

54:03

ask the average Joe, how does, how

54:05

do, how do, how do options work?

54:08

I mean, listen, right now, if I

54:10

logged on on my TD and I

54:12

tried to trade an option, they would

54:14

be like, you're not allowed. That's how

54:16

crazy options trading is, that like you

54:18

have to take a course for them

54:21

to feel like, because you can't want

54:23

your money. But they want to lose,

54:25

so if you, so if you, if

54:27

you lose all your money, the bank

54:29

no longer has you as a customer,

54:31

right? So they're like, especially someone like

54:34

me. They're like, listen, you got 1200

54:36

bucks in there. Like, I don't know

54:38

if this is the best idea. You

54:40

go into the fucking. But my point

54:42

is, is like, options is like one

54:45

of the most basic tools of the

54:47

market. Once you ever had any faith

54:49

in the markets, that should. Be the

54:51

moment where you pulled all your money

54:53

out and stuck it underneath your mattress

54:55

because nothing is safe Those those people

54:58

did the right thing. They should have

55:00

made their money But instead the business

55:02

was so big that it controlled the

55:04

stock market and and the business couldn't

55:06

lose and halted and and who lost?

55:08

Well, you know what's crazy Simon too

55:11

is when you think about it those

55:13

guys are investing retirement funds? So in

55:15

a way, they almost have to do

55:17

what they did. And I'm not, I'm

55:19

not defending it, like, hear me out,

55:21

what I'm saying is, if they just

55:24

let the market do what the market

55:26

should have done, then anyone with a

55:28

retirement fund in the US loses their

55:30

retirement. Yeah, no, listen, I get it,

55:32

but at the same time, you're like,

55:35

you made a system. Yeah, and now

55:37

you're drinking it didn't work for you.

55:39

Well, no, the second it worked the

55:41

way it worked the way it was

55:43

supposed to way it was supposed to

55:45

work the way it was supposed to

55:48

work, it was supposed to work, Because

55:50

that was the thing right right right

55:52

the system was like the market itself

55:54

was saying hey listen the reason the

55:56

stock is. what it is right now

55:58

is because you guys are short selling

56:01

the shit out of it and people

56:03

are buying the shit out of it.

56:05

Right. We see what you're doing. We're

56:07

going to get involved in what you're

56:09

up to. You don't like that we're

56:12

now going to make the money you

56:14

were supposed to make. And Simon, the

56:16

thing that's crazy is there's actually precedent.

56:18

So Volkswagen. This happened like 10 years

56:20

before GME. There was this weird short

56:22

sale. You don't have to go read

56:25

up because I'm not going to do

56:27

it any justice. Porsche was acquiring Volkswagen

56:29

or vice versa and I think it's

56:31

vice versa vice versa yeah yeah and

56:33

they said like if you're short selling

56:35

this stop right now because you're gonna

56:38

get fucking cooked and people kept short

56:40

that to the people they said that

56:42

to the invest to every investor in

56:44

the world they were like stop short

56:46

selling this it's gonna be your demise

56:49

Volkswagen stock shot up to $1,000 a

56:51

stock because of all the pressure. So

56:53

the point is, is like GME, which

56:55

got up to 250, whatever, 260, could

56:57

have easily gone to 1,000, to 1,200,

56:59

to whatever. And when it goes to

57:02

1,200, to whatever, and when it goes

57:04

to 1,200, you see all those fucking,

57:06

you see all those fucking, Robin Hood's

57:08

done, like everyone gets liquidated. And then

57:10

all the retirement funds are gone. So.

57:12

I lost, I mean I won, I

57:15

got out of it. So you think

57:17

that they should have done that? No.

57:19

You think they had no choice but

57:21

to do that? Yes. And that's a

57:23

problem? Of course. Yeah. You can't. Look,

57:25

you shouldn't have a system where there's

57:28

a point where you have to rip

57:30

off the people to save the people.

57:32

My point is, like, here's a good

57:34

example. I think if you're a hedge

57:36

fund and you're playing with a retirement

57:39

fund, I don't think you should be

57:41

able to be able to short the

57:43

market. I think shorting the market should

57:45

be an instrument for something else. Shorting

57:47

the market is a thing that should

57:49

be a thing. You have to make

57:52

money in a downward market. There has

57:54

to be a way... or else no

57:56

one, people have to take part in

57:58

a stock market for it to work.

58:00

And if there's no way to make

58:02

money, then everyone just fucks off. Right?

58:05

So you... Well, isn't the way to

58:07

make money the way you said in

58:09

the first place when we started this

58:11

conversation, you're investing in a company, that

58:13

company does well, they make money, and

58:16

you make money? The Warren Buffett School

58:18

of investing is so find a company

58:20

that you believe in long term and

58:22

invest Well, this is what I'm saying

58:24

everything else to do with the stock

58:26

market the shorting all the things that

58:29

I don't understand Those are superfluous to

58:31

how that market should function. They shouldn't

58:33

be there. Well, no, they're only there

58:35

because people have found loopholes No, no,

58:37

and we're okay with loopholes. Hold on

58:39

options. Okay. Let's look at the other

58:42

side of options the call side where

58:44

you think a stuff then you're just

58:46

Like companies use stock options as a

58:48

way to entice people right so it's

58:50

like You can buy our stock at

58:53

a hundred dollars of stock because of

58:55

your options and right now our stock

58:57

is trading at three hundred dollars and

58:59

you exercise those options It's the same

59:01

way like right now you could go

59:03

and you could say I believe that

59:06

four years from a Tesla's gonna be

59:08

back to a thousand dollars a share

59:10

or 400 whatever the fuck you know

59:12

and you can bet on that and

59:14

I'm saying that's not that's not the

59:16

worst I don't have a The problem

59:19

is that we don't have an understanding

59:21

of how the system works, and that's

59:23

the real issue. Us, like the three

59:25

of us, or us, like the collective

59:27

we- The collective layman, like, you should

59:29

be able to explain the stock market

59:32

to a child in a way, like,

59:34

it shouldn't take a fucking economics degree

59:36

to, I don't know. Do short tasks?

59:38

Mark, is that anything? No, they're talking

59:40

about retirement funds. Do you guys think

59:43

about your pension as a Canadian? And

59:45

what you're entitled to? I'm not entitled

59:47

to shit. Yeah, you are. If you

59:49

are lived in Canada for 40 years

59:51

after the age of 18, as of

59:53

2024, you receive $713 and 34 cents

59:56

a month. When what? When I hit

59:58

60? 65. 65. 65. So when I

1:00:00

hit 65, the government's going to give

1:00:02

me $700 a month for life? Till

1:00:04

you're 75? For 10 years. Bump it

1:00:06

up to 784 a month. Yeah. Yeah,

1:00:09

until you die. And that's what I

1:00:11

guess they're talking about, what their, the

1:00:13

government pension there, 401k. I'm not sure.

1:00:15

No, they were talking about Social Security.

1:00:17

Social security. That's the same thing. Yeah.

1:00:20

Yeah. I believe. I think so. So

1:00:22

yeah, I mean that's a lot of

1:00:24

money to live off of month if

1:00:26

you not written on this economy We're

1:00:28

talking about you have to own where

1:00:30

you live. Oh, he's gonna have property

1:00:33

taxes. That's gonna Clod to that. No,

1:00:35

you have to not own where you

1:00:37

live at that point because all of

1:00:39

that money will go to your property

1:00:41

taxes But I mean you can't pay

1:00:43

seven hundred dollars a month rent anywhere.

1:00:46

What Khmar saying is like if he's

1:00:48

saying in a perfect world you own

1:00:50

your home at that point So the

1:00:52

$700... Your overhead is the... Could only

1:00:54

go to like... But you're correct, because

1:00:57

the... That $700 is going to get

1:00:59

you nowhere. It doesn't seem like much.

1:01:01

I'm sure with inflation it'll be up

1:01:03

to $800 by the time we're 65.

1:01:05

If you're getting free room and bored,

1:01:07

then that's $100 is okay. Let's assume...

1:01:10

Let's assume I've paid this house off

1:01:12

by then. Let's assume I've paid this

1:01:14

house off by then. That's $700. Probably

1:01:16

leaves me like $150 bucks a month

1:01:18

for... Like after the property tax and

1:01:20

by that point my friend property taxes

1:01:23

will have tripled what they are today

1:01:25

and you Yeah every house will look

1:01:27

like the one next door maybe you'll

1:01:29

get 1400. Well, then I guess it's

1:01:31

a good thing. We don't think about

1:01:33

our pension I don't think about the

1:01:36

future period just depresses me No, Camar

1:01:38

like I honestly like Mary and I

1:01:40

were talking about this the other day

1:01:42

and I was like I'm just I

1:01:44

have no retirement option. That's on a

1:01:47

I can't retire I can't do trivia

1:01:49

for ever either so I have to

1:01:51

figure out what I can do for

1:01:53

the rest of my life to bring

1:01:55

in money. You guys can use your

1:01:57

experience that Mary got and... I know

1:02:00

Mary has a retirement. leverage your house

1:02:02

to buy an apartment and Airbnb it

1:02:04

out? Well, you can't Airbnb anymore. That's

1:02:06

not really a thing. Is that right?

1:02:08

Yeah. Well, I know a place where

1:02:10

you can and whether a village state

1:02:13

is cheap. Foreign investment anyways. No, I'm

1:02:15

just saying you asked, I don't have

1:02:17

a retirement plan. I don't have a

1:02:19

retirement plan. That's what changed me. I

1:02:21

now have a retirement plan. Which is

1:02:24

going to Morocco? Yes. But where are

1:02:26

you going to get the $200,000,000 for

1:02:28

that downtown apartment that you were talking

1:02:30

about that you were talking about? No,

1:02:32

this is just a go. No, no,

1:02:34

that would be, I'm just saying, for

1:02:37

something that would cost you a million

1:02:39

dollars here, it would cost you 200,000.

1:02:41

For something that costs you $200,000 here,

1:02:43

it would cost you $20,000 here. I

1:02:45

can rent a place just to sort

1:02:47

of get my feet wet for like

1:02:50

200 bucks a month. Gotcha. But not

1:02:52

sustainable. I know what you mean until

1:02:54

you find something. Yeah. And maybe in

1:02:56

that time, discover, it's not feasible, and

1:02:58

I can't live there. playing goal this

1:03:01

sort of an idea and that's really

1:03:03

made me excited something about Sean Ryan

1:03:05

I guess yeah Metzger doesn't like Sean

1:03:07

Ryan Metzger doesn't like Sean Ryan Mrs.

1:03:09

I'm sure he's a good guy which

1:03:11

is well he also he was like

1:03:14

I'm sure he's a good guy but

1:03:16

then he was like he's also a

1:03:18

killer he's a killer he's a good

1:03:20

guy but then he was like he's

1:03:22

also a killer chair across from someone

1:03:24

else he was the Iba game He's

1:03:27

a podcaster, he came from nowhere, according

1:03:29

to Kurt Metzger, and he also was

1:03:31

talking about... Simon, you definitely hear, I'll

1:03:33

show you a photo, you know who

1:03:35

he is, for sure. He's been on

1:03:37

Rogan before? Yes, he has a podcast

1:03:40

of his own. He's bald, he talks,

1:03:42

very. That is not him. By the

1:03:44

way, uh-up, Papuri's impression, he had to

1:03:46

go to pot. That guy. Oh Sean

1:03:48

Ryan yes I do yes yes yes

1:03:51

I do I think Kurt's point is

1:03:53

like this guy is an operator you

1:03:55

know what I mean like he Yeah,

1:03:57

he comes from the CIA. Yeah, yeah,

1:03:59

like his whole deal is just Mike

1:04:01

Baker, but with a better podcast and

1:04:04

has actually killed people, probably, like is

1:04:06

like a full-on operas, killed people. I

1:04:08

don't know. You don't think so? I've

1:04:10

never thought about it until you said

1:04:12

it. CIA agent in the field, I

1:04:14

think, probably a good chance that you've

1:04:17

killed somebody. I mean, I meant that

1:04:19

Sean Ryan was actually an operator, like,

1:04:21

like, like, full-on, like, like, kicking, like,

1:04:23

like, like, like, like, like, I mean,

1:04:25

so does Kurt Metzger hate anybody who

1:04:28

was in the military? No, I don't

1:04:30

believe that's his issue. I think his

1:04:32

issue is that this guy came out

1:04:34

of nowhere now has this super popular

1:04:36

influential podcast. Well, he didn't really meant

1:04:38

that was the problem is Kurt didn't

1:04:41

really get to it. It's like the

1:04:43

hook to a girl. I don't know.

1:04:45

He just kind of he glazed over

1:04:47

it. He said it's Joe likes him.

1:04:49

Joe wasn't like but but but again,

1:04:51

one of the hall of the hall

1:04:54

of the hall of fame. I mean

1:04:56

I thought he was going to mention

1:04:58

the guy who he had on the

1:05:00

knee and I'm cutting off a guy's

1:05:02

head but the people who's been like

1:05:05

Charlton and he did not mention Terrence

1:05:07

Howard in it like in one of

1:05:09

those names. Did Joe say names? No,

1:05:11

he always says there's been guys on

1:05:13

here who the Charlotteans. But he never

1:05:15

says names. We never says names. We

1:05:18

do not know of the unreleased episodes

1:05:20

that may or may not. Well, we

1:05:22

know one of the Charlotteans was that

1:05:24

guy. Remember he used to be on

1:05:26

all the time. He was like a

1:05:28

fitness type guy. Yeah, well, there was

1:05:31

the game changers guy, the vegan dude.

1:05:33

Not not him, but him, yeah, him.

1:05:35

But no, there was another guy. Remember,

1:05:37

he was on- Game something? I don't

1:05:39

remember what his name was, but he

1:05:41

was on all the time. He was

1:05:44

like one of Joe's go-to guys. He

1:05:46

was kind of like a Huberman. Okay.

1:05:48

But before a Huberman. Tim? Tim? Tim?

1:05:50

Tim? 24-hour body for our work week.

1:05:52

Tim? Or our work week? Tim? No,

1:05:55

I don't like some plates. More plates?

1:05:57

No, that's Derek. Oh, I'm sorry, Simon.

1:05:59

I wish I could find a story.

1:06:01

I thought you would know because we

1:06:03

used to always talk about him as

1:06:05

never being on anymore. You know what

1:06:08

with six years now that we've been

1:06:10

doing this show and listening to every

1:06:12

episode? I'd saw blended into whatever. I

1:06:14

believe Kurt was saying that in regards

1:06:16

to the USAID scandal or the USID

1:06:18

scandal, whatever you want to, you know,

1:06:21

the city's idea of the name of

1:06:23

that and just assumes for a good

1:06:25

thing, has all been like blocked or

1:06:27

still continuing. It was all theater. and

1:06:29

the spending and waste continues. I just

1:06:32

find right now it's so like when

1:06:34

Trump launched the tariffs against everyone in

1:06:36

the world, how the position was sort

1:06:38

of like Trump against the world, from

1:06:40

even America News, it just seems weird.

1:06:42

What seems weird? I'm trying to get

1:06:45

with you here. Our countries, it'd be

1:06:47

like if they'd taken the opposite stance

1:06:49

in the Iraq war. Like we can't

1:06:51

believe our government's going to war with

1:06:53

Iraq despite... but they were like weapons

1:06:55

of mass destruction they have this and

1:06:58

right now they're saying they could be

1:07:00

saying as a narrative Trump is playing

1:07:02

a hardball with the world going to

1:07:04

get money back just as a position

1:07:06

but they're saying no but it was

1:07:09

9-11 that way wait wait but to

1:07:11

go into Iraq how do you think

1:07:13

they're getting money back I'm just curious

1:07:15

through the terrorists that's no I have

1:07:17

no idea I have no idea I

1:07:19

have no idea I cannot believe that

1:07:22

the tariffs are just put up there

1:07:24

to make everyone's life worse and then

1:07:26

Huh, but there must be a mess

1:07:28

of the madness. I mean, you must

1:07:30

think if you're a Trump guy that

1:07:32

he's doing this for the betterment of

1:07:35

America. Yeah. He must truly believe that

1:07:37

this is going to benefit America, but

1:07:39

it's going to bankrupt America before it

1:07:41

benefits America. I mean, again, we're going

1:07:43

to find out. I don't think I

1:07:45

don't understand why you like six months

1:07:48

is not enough time for them to

1:07:50

set up even close to the infrastructure

1:07:52

needed to prop up these American companies

1:07:54

to start making things in America. It's

1:07:56

impossible. I think there's a. an election

1:07:59

or something that would, I mean, Simon

1:08:01

brought up, hold on, everyone's unhappy with

1:08:03

what's happening. No, no, but Simon brought

1:08:05

up a great point. Like, let's say

1:08:07

he had eight years, let's say right

1:08:09

now, this is his first term and

1:08:12

he has eight years, you may be

1:08:14

able to argue that at the very

1:08:16

end of his last term, you would

1:08:18

start to see a turnaround. Like if

1:08:20

you're saying, because I get you, you're

1:08:22

saying it could just be a market

1:08:25

reset, and that in five years were

1:08:27

higher up now because they've brought back.

1:08:29

I don't think that's going to happen

1:08:31

because this doesn't seem like it's going

1:08:33

well. First of all, if all of

1:08:36

these companies who are here who aren't

1:08:38

in America are suddenly losing a ton

1:08:40

of cash, a lot of them won't

1:08:42

have the money necessary to build this

1:08:44

infrastructure in America. Like the only ones

1:08:46

who will have that are the guys

1:08:49

who are so big that they can't

1:08:51

fail anyways, the Amazon's, like... The only

1:08:53

reason they're so big they can't fail

1:08:55

is because of things like USAID. Amazon

1:08:58

is too big to fail because of

1:09:01

USA. Well like you're like all these

1:09:03

companies that we prop up as like

1:09:05

Fortune 500 companies like oh they can't

1:09:08

be beat like what we found out

1:09:10

in the last couple months or years

1:09:12

is like. The Facebooks the Amazon's the

1:09:15

Tesla's they're all propped up by government

1:09:17

money Yeah, if they didn't get huge

1:09:19

government contracts like for example like I

1:09:22

brought a couple cuts could affect them

1:09:24

I brought it up a couple months

1:09:26

ago like Amazon the reason they can

1:09:29

ship you shit day of for so

1:09:31

cheap is because the CIA gives them

1:09:33

$600 billion a year for their cloud

1:09:35

service or whatever the you know, whatever

1:09:38

the insane amount of money is and

1:09:40

so you realize that it's actually on

1:09:42

the back end where they're doing all

1:09:45

this weird government shit that they're selling

1:09:47

you toilet paper at a discounted rate.

1:09:49

That's the only reason. I mean, if

1:09:52

the US government is so hit up

1:09:54

for cash that they need to implement

1:09:56

these tariffs, why don't they just start

1:09:59

closing some of the loopholes in their,

1:10:01

like Amazon doesn't pay taxes because they

1:10:03

find some loophole that allows them to

1:10:06

get away. with like $8 billion a

1:10:08

year. Yeah, well, no, you know, it's

1:10:10

hilarious. There's not even mentioning it. Just

1:10:12

fix that. Take the $8 billion and

1:10:15

then you don't have to put the

1:10:17

tariffs on. No, no, no, but it's

1:10:19

like, you have to lay off a

1:10:22

bunch of people. No, no, but let

1:10:24

me, hold on, let's do this. Why?

1:10:26

Wait, wait, I'm saying, sorry. Let's back.

1:10:29

on all their speculation. Yeah, so think

1:10:31

about it. A penny on a huge

1:10:33

stock. A penny on every transaction and

1:10:36

people were like, you can't do this,

1:10:38

this will bankrupt the economy, this. If

1:10:40

you had just called it a tariff,

1:10:42

you know what I mean? We're gonna

1:10:45

put a small tariff on the stock

1:10:47

market, very minute, you won't even notice

1:10:49

it. It could have flown, right? Like,

1:10:52

sanction. I just don't, like, listen, I

1:10:54

would understand, I guess, a little more

1:10:56

if he was like, okay, I'm going

1:10:59

on Canada and... Mexico and get the

1:11:01

best deal possible for our trade which

1:11:03

but going against the whole world all

1:11:06

at once just seems insane. Well no

1:11:08

hold on okay look what they did

1:11:10

was they looked at at the end

1:11:13

of the day what they did was

1:11:15

they said where's our biggest trade deficits

1:11:17

and then they did some And I'm

1:11:19

sorry, this is actually true, they did

1:11:22

some fucking wackadoo math. Wackadoo, you're talking

1:11:24

about his, uh, his chart? Yeah, his

1:11:26

chart, yeah. Because those weren't the numbers,

1:11:29

those were an equation that got to

1:11:31

those numbers. Yes, precisely. And that's what

1:11:33

they did. They just did a quick

1:11:36

math equation that said, this is our

1:11:38

trade deficit with them, and this is

1:11:40

what we need to tax them to

1:11:43

get it back. But. China. I was

1:11:45

just fine. I forget those two countries.

1:11:47

I'm just saying if you want to

1:11:50

pick your two biggest problems and tackle

1:11:52

them, that seems like good economics to

1:11:54

me. I agree. Just blatantly putting tariffs

1:11:56

on the whole rest of the planet?

1:11:59

He must think that the rest of

1:12:01

the world cannot function without the United

1:12:03

States And I just don't think that's

1:12:06

the truth like it's not going to

1:12:08

be the same Maybe we're not going

1:12:10

to get as many fucking Nike sneaker

1:12:13

releases a year, but like people will

1:12:15

figure it out countries will figure it

1:12:17

out, but do you think if you

1:12:20

live am I wrong? I was going

1:12:22

to let him finish if you live

1:12:24

another 30 years, you'll know Well,

1:12:28

he's only going to be in for

1:12:30

four so no matter what he does

1:12:33

in these four years The next person

1:12:35

who comes in can just dismantle it

1:12:37

all I'm saying he'll be in again.

1:12:39

There's been I think I looked it

1:12:41

up. There's been like four recessions in

1:12:44

our lifetime that you you would consciously

1:12:46

be aware of and I don't I

1:12:48

don't think I've ever noticed it I

1:12:50

just don't know what the consequences are

1:12:52

either way or the upside like a

1:12:55

boom Okay, but I don't want to

1:12:57

be rude. I don't want to be

1:12:59

rude and I'm I'm I'm putting myself

1:13:01

in the same boat as you. If

1:13:03

you don't own a home or a

1:13:06

business, I think you don't see, I

1:13:08

don't think you see them as much.

1:13:10

No, absolutely. I also think, when you

1:13:12

say recession, when they say recession, they're

1:13:14

just lying to you. Recession means two

1:13:17

straight quarters with negative. numbers. That's all

1:13:19

it means. And the third one could

1:13:21

have positive numbers that trump both those

1:13:23

and doesn't. What I'm saying is that

1:13:25

if you have like, there's probably been

1:13:28

10 recessions in our lifetime. They just

1:13:30

don't, they're just not, they're lying to

1:13:32

you. So I'm saying, there wasn't that

1:13:34

one year where just my bag was

1:13:36

a bit heavier because of recessions. It's

1:13:39

put out there and we're in it.

1:13:41

Life goes on, you know, with a

1:13:43

gas that should be. Again, if like

1:13:45

interest rates start mattering to you, I

1:13:47

think is what he's saying, you know

1:13:50

what I mean. Then maybe you feel

1:13:52

those things a little more. I would

1:13:54

say because they don't be, and it's

1:13:56

not a knock on anyone, if you

1:13:58

don't have a lot of like expenditures,

1:14:00

then you're probably not gonna feel it

1:14:03

as much as somebody else. I would

1:14:05

say yeah you're right there and I

1:14:07

understand why it's like no offense but

1:14:09

I'd say there's a growing number of

1:14:11

people that now don't see that as

1:14:14

a reality. But I mean Kamar like

1:14:16

just rates or whatever being part of

1:14:18

their life because they get there. But

1:14:20

I mean that's just rates or whatever

1:14:22

being part of their life because they

1:14:25

get there. But I mean that's because

1:14:27

they're living paycheck to paycheck for less

1:14:29

than ten dollars that's in my recent

1:14:31

memory. And the houses were a lot

1:14:33

cheaper. It's just gone up here because

1:14:36

of supply and demand. When you look

1:14:38

at how much our parents paid for

1:14:40

a house versus how much you had

1:14:42

to pay for a house, and like

1:14:44

I have a daughter who's one day

1:14:47

gonna buy a house or want to

1:14:49

buy a house, they can't even live

1:14:51

close to the city limits anymore. You

1:14:53

know what I mean? It's like not

1:14:55

a possibility. The rate that things have

1:14:58

gone up in price are not... It's

1:15:00

not in line with the amount that

1:15:02

people make. Like this is the most

1:15:04

clear thing possible and yet. It's like

1:15:06

it's lost on. Anyway, it doesn't matter.

1:15:09

Well, no, like come are you know,

1:15:11

you're like, he's actually bringing up a

1:15:13

great point. Like you were like, I've

1:15:15

lived through four recessions and I haven't

1:15:17

really noticed it. Someone did. No, no.

1:15:20

What I'm saying is, you have in

1:15:22

the sense that like. You and keep

1:15:24

in mind the only reason I have

1:15:26

a home is because of my parents

1:15:28

so don't think that I'm like you

1:15:31

don't have a home what I'm saying

1:15:33

is like it's impossible but in For

1:15:35

the amount you've worked for what you've

1:15:37

done you should have a home by

1:15:39

now and because of those recessions and

1:15:42

because they're stealing and because they're stealing

1:15:44

from us you don't have a home

1:15:46

and that's my point is exactly and

1:15:48

they can and they convince us that

1:15:50

it's like. Well, no, it has because

1:15:52

now I'm never going to buy a

1:15:55

home. Because I wasn't in the position

1:15:57

to do it then, but I am

1:15:59

in the position to do it now.

1:16:01

But because shit has gone from zero

1:16:03

to a hundred, in the course of...

1:16:06

I guess four recessions, like. Like come

1:16:08

on, here's the problem is, so the

1:16:10

way a city works is like everyone

1:16:12

has to be able to afford to

1:16:14

live in that city. When I mean

1:16:17

everyone, I mean like the janitor who

1:16:19

cleans the floors, the plumbers, every single

1:16:21

person has to. Or else the city

1:16:23

can't work. Or you get a situation

1:16:25

like New York City, where the people

1:16:28

who work in New York City can't

1:16:30

live in New York City. They have

1:16:32

to live in Jersey. But that's not

1:16:34

the way things should function. If you're

1:16:36

working in Manhattan, you should get to

1:16:39

live in Manhattan. You know what I

1:16:41

mean? If you clean the floors in

1:16:43

Ottawa, you should be able to afford

1:16:45

to. Like, dude, you work two jobs

1:16:47

in Ottawa. And in my opinion, you

1:16:50

should be able to afford... I'm not

1:16:52

saying a luxurious home. Dude, you should

1:16:54

be able to live in center town

1:16:56

for fuck's sake? Come on, the amount

1:16:58

of the amount of money I spent

1:17:01

on this bungalow, and I'm not, listen,

1:17:03

I love this house, I think it's

1:17:05

a great home. You're gonna die here,

1:17:07

you just say that? It's fucking ridiculous,

1:17:09

this house isn't worth even close to

1:17:12

what you paid for. No, no, I'm

1:17:14

with him, no, he's not, I don't

1:17:16

think, like, he's not wrong. But I

1:17:18

said to her, I was like, this

1:17:20

house is not worth $600,000 Canadian dollars.

1:17:23

I'm just going to give you an

1:17:25

example, okay? I bought my house, our

1:17:27

first house, however long ago, in Westboro.

1:17:29

20 years ago, in the Westboro one,

1:17:31

it was, and don't take offense to

1:17:34

this, okay? For. Half of the money

1:17:36

it was twice the house. I know.

1:17:38

Do you know what I mean? Like

1:17:40

that's happened in such a short fucking

1:17:42

period of it. It's not right. That's

1:17:44

not the way things should function. I

1:17:47

said to you a bungalow. I'm 100%

1:17:49

with you. I'm not insulted at all.

1:17:51

A bungalow should never have cost me

1:17:53

$600,000. You don't even have two floors.

1:17:55

This is it. And that's you're not

1:17:58

paying for your house. You're paying for

1:18:00

the land. The land. The land has

1:18:02

gotten so. astronomical and forget even that

1:18:04

Matt forget the amount you have to

1:18:06

shell out for the house the amount

1:18:09

you have to pay in property tax

1:18:11

and this tax and that tax and

1:18:13

it and hold on and come our

1:18:15

tobacco actually what he's saying like I

1:18:17

got so lucky that my mom came

1:18:20

to me and was like we found

1:18:22

a somewhat affordable like this was before

1:18:24

the housing boom in Ottawa that place

1:18:26

I originally lived in we got that

1:18:28

place for like 320 grand and that's

1:18:31

the only reason we could afford this

1:18:33

place was because we got We sold

1:18:35

that one for 700. Think about the,

1:18:37

do the math of that. We bought

1:18:39

a house for 340,000 dollars. We lived

1:18:42

in it for five years and we

1:18:44

sold it for almost double. It doesn't

1:18:46

make sense. It doesn't make sense. It

1:18:48

doesn't make sense. But it doesn't make

1:18:50

sense. But it goes to show how,

1:18:53

you know, having kids and owning property

1:18:55

forces you into the conversation. And I

1:18:57

didn't, and I did that to him.

1:18:59

It's by no fault of his own.

1:19:01

This kid doesn't really have a shot

1:19:04

unless he becomes YouTube successful or figures

1:19:06

out something, which is again, it's, you

1:19:08

might as well win the lottery, but

1:19:10

like, this kid that I'm about to

1:19:12

bring into the world, the odds that

1:19:15

he is going to be able to

1:19:17

afford the down payment on a meager,

1:19:19

meager home in this, in this shit

1:19:21

city, it shouldn't be that way. It

1:19:23

shouldn't be that way. Like, and this

1:19:26

is this, this is the saddest part,

1:19:28

is that my parents, your parents, whoever's

1:19:30

parents were able to help them. You're

1:19:32

not going to be able to help

1:19:34

your child. Do you know what I

1:19:36

mean? Like, it's just so expensive for

1:19:39

you to live. Well, no, I'll say

1:19:41

the uncomfortable thing. I've never inherited a

1:19:43

dollar. I haven't inherited one dollar. I

1:19:45

will inherit money when my mom goes,

1:19:47

and that money will allow me to

1:19:50

buy Charlie a home. You know what

1:19:52

I mean that but that's the only

1:19:54

way Simon I'm never gonna make again.

1:19:56

That's just proving my point. I agree

1:19:58

with you. They were able to have

1:20:01

saving Yeah. You spend so much to

1:20:03

fucking get groceries, which is a term

1:20:05

that Donald Trump can't understand. Yeah. Listen,

1:20:07

it's, look, I saw it firsthand because

1:20:09

like, Trump's in, everything, whatever, it doesn't

1:20:12

affect you until it affects you, until

1:20:14

he puts a blanket tariff that our

1:20:16

government has to respond on that makes

1:20:18

it more expensive for you to bring

1:20:20

in whatever it is you're trying to

1:20:23

sell. But to say it doesn't affect

1:20:25

me too is crazy like I went

1:20:27

to the grocery store the other day

1:20:29

and half the shelves are empty because

1:20:31

they're just not carrying certain US products

1:20:34

and the other how is a bag

1:20:36

of Doritos eight dollars? That's like just

1:20:38

just wrap your head around that. Well

1:20:40

stuff should be more expensive sometimes I

1:20:42

think personally. But what does that mean?

1:20:45

Well like like I said the cheese

1:20:47

is more expensive because they're protecting a

1:20:49

handful of farmers so they can make

1:20:51

the money or something like that. If

1:20:53

something like, I was in Morocco and

1:20:56

I bought a can of cherry Coke

1:20:58

and it was like $5. He's like,

1:21:00

I gotta bring it in. They don't

1:21:02

make this here. If you got that

1:21:04

Coke, it's $2. Of course, something should

1:21:07

be more expensive. It's depends on the

1:21:09

imported product. It's a little bit different.

1:21:11

Yeah. That's what I thought you were

1:21:13

just talking about. No, but like, like,

1:21:15

think about McDonald's. Like, dude. There is

1:21:18

no fucking world where McDonald's should be

1:21:20

the price that it is. Okay, Matt

1:21:22

just said it to us. Same price

1:21:24

in Morocco. Matt just said it to

1:21:26

us earlier. An iPhone comes in, landed

1:21:28

in the United States for $15 US.

1:21:31

They sell it to you for $1,500.

1:21:33

I said it to you before. They

1:21:35

farm out this shit to another country.

1:21:37

The cheapest labor possible. And then we

1:21:39

bring it here and they mark it

1:21:42

up so high and we're happy to

1:21:44

pay it because it's. The

1:21:46

cool product it's you know, it's funny

1:21:48

none of that makes sense you know,

1:21:50

well, okay This is totally off topic,

1:21:52

but I do want to this is

1:21:54

a fun Road to get off this

1:21:56

the iPhone's very interesting because I was

1:21:58

thinking about the other day like I

1:22:00

was thinking about someone like you Simon

1:22:03

and like You don't buy one every

1:22:05

year. No, I know it's crushed yours,

1:22:07

but you do buy an iPhone. Like

1:22:09

every three years you re-up on one.

1:22:11

Okay. Because I have to. Yeah, yeah,

1:22:13

yeah, yeah. Well, again. Or they gave

1:22:15

it to me for free. Sure, sure,

1:22:17

sure, theoretically. But I was just thinking

1:22:19

about it and I was like, that

1:22:21

R&D that I mentioned, the 326 billion

1:22:23

quarterly, by the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1:22:25

yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, I

1:22:27

was like, for what, for what, for

1:22:29

what, for what, for what, for what,

1:22:31

for what, for what, for what, for

1:22:33

what, for what, for what, for what,

1:22:36

for what, for what, for what, for

1:22:38

what, for what, for what, for what,

1:22:40

for what, for what, for what, for

1:22:42

what, for what, for what, for what,

1:22:44

for what, for what, for what, for

1:22:46

what, for what, for what, for what,

1:22:48

for what and all the apps you

1:22:50

can download. I still haven't cracked this

1:22:52

thing. I mean, I physically cracked it,

1:22:54

but like metaphorically, no, I haven't even

1:22:56

gotten, it's like my brain. A month

1:22:58

ago, I told you guys, there was

1:23:00

a level on it and boom, both

1:23:02

your heads exploded. And I just, I

1:23:04

thought about that for a second, and

1:23:07

I was like, there's got to be

1:23:09

a world where they can sell you

1:23:11

an iPhone light. Matt, this is, this

1:23:13

is my point, is that you said

1:23:15

they have to spend all that, all

1:23:17

that money, do they have to spend

1:23:19

all that money, do they have to

1:23:21

spend all that money, do they have

1:23:23

to spend all that money, do they

1:23:25

have to spend all that money, do

1:23:27

they have, do they have, do they

1:23:29

have, do they have, do they have,

1:23:31

do they have, do, do they, do

1:23:33

they, do they, do they, do they,

1:23:35

do they, do they, do they, do

1:23:37

they, do they, do they, do they,

1:23:40

do they Do they put a new

1:23:42

camera in next year and tell you

1:23:44

they're spending that money on R&D? And

1:23:46

that's just more money going into their

1:23:48

pockets. And what if it turns out

1:23:50

they spend the most R&D on the

1:23:52

stuff in the phone that just monitors

1:23:54

you to get. That's probably it. So

1:23:56

they can sell it to someone else.

1:23:58

Yeah, that's probably actually true. Come on.

1:24:00

That's probably ban on. Yeah. If we

1:24:02

weren't selling you, we could sell it

1:24:04

to you for a lot cheaper. But

1:24:06

yeah. Well, it is interesting though, it

1:24:08

is interesting though, because you're, because you're,

1:24:11

it is interesting though, because you're, because

1:24:13

you're, so when you're, so when you're,

1:24:15

so when you're, so when you're spending,

1:24:17

so when you're spending, so when you're

1:24:19

spending, so when you're spending, a robot

1:24:21

down the road. That's really what it

1:24:23

is, right? So they could get us

1:24:25

to Mars. Well, no, because they're not

1:24:27

doing that. They have no interest. I'm

1:24:29

just saying it's all shit that don't

1:24:31

matter to you right now. Right now,

1:24:33

what matters to you is being able

1:24:35

to buy an affordable phone because you're

1:24:37

having a hard time making your mortgage

1:24:39

payment or paying your rent or whatever

1:24:41

the fuck it is. Just back to

1:24:44

Donald Trump running again. Yeah. I always

1:24:46

in my head was like he can't

1:24:48

do this the constitution it's so easy

1:24:50

for him to do it I didn't

1:24:52

realize how simple it is he just

1:24:54

picks whoever he wants to run next

1:24:56

time and he runs as a VP

1:24:58

he runs as VP and they resign

1:25:00

the second they get in there's no

1:25:02

rule that says you can't claim a

1:25:04

mental health thing and Excuse yourself from

1:25:06

being president. It could be a son.

1:25:08

It could be JD Vance. It could

1:25:10

whoever the fuck he has enough clout

1:25:12

with To be able to direct to

1:25:15

do it's the easiest thing for him

1:25:17

to do and then he get and

1:25:19

you know what? So you're saying in

1:25:21

perpetuity he could just be vice president

1:25:23

pretty I mean you probably could Right,

1:25:25

and then just like you would need

1:25:27

to win. No, no, just hear me

1:25:29

out. Here, Mike, J. D. Vance would

1:25:31

have to win. What you do is

1:25:33

you tell your base. Listen, I can't

1:25:35

legally run again. I'm gonna be the

1:25:37

vote. You vote for my guy. No

1:25:39

matter what. And I'm gonna run shit

1:25:41

from behind the scenes. Not even from

1:25:43

behind the scenes. Yeah, I'm in front

1:25:45

of the scene. Sure. Right, like the

1:25:48

Democrats would have to win the House,

1:25:50

the Senate, and the presidency. They'd have

1:25:52

to win all that to then go

1:25:54

and rewrite the Constitution to say, listen,

1:25:56

you get two, you get two terms,

1:25:58

period, end of story, no coming back.

1:26:00

You know what I mean? I mean,

1:26:02

to me, that's like the most important

1:26:04

part of that whole presidency yig, is

1:26:06

that you only have the two terms.

1:26:08

I always thought that was a huge,

1:26:10

a huge problem with our system. was

1:26:12

that our guy can run for there's

1:26:14

no like that's mental. But I think

1:26:16

I think we find out where minorities

1:26:19

most places are dictators should like Putin's

1:26:21

or the King of Morocco or yeah

1:26:23

I know but that's not necessarily a

1:26:25

good thing but it's more the norm

1:26:27

than no I know listen this was

1:26:29

the experiment Simon and at the beginning

1:26:31

it showed all the signs of being

1:26:33

an experiment that was going to work.

1:26:35

The problem is the problem of their

1:26:37

system is If someone actually does a

1:26:39

good job, which we have yet to

1:26:41

see, if someone actually does a good

1:26:43

job, there's almost an argument to like,

1:26:45

like let's say. Let's say tomorrow we

1:26:47

we hold an election and whoever now

1:26:49

I don't think any of them are

1:26:52

good But let's say Kearney gets in

1:26:54

not Kearney because I don't want to

1:26:56

use anyone that's actually in the spectrum.

1:26:58

Let's say Someone comes out of nowhere,

1:27:00

you know patient X and they actually

1:27:02

they turn the country around in four

1:27:04

years and then the four years after

1:27:06

that we're turning a profit everything is

1:27:08

good every Canadians feeling great our dollars

1:27:10

worth a ton There's argument to be

1:27:12

like can we not just get this

1:27:14

guy in again? You know what I

1:27:16

mean? Like that's why that's kind of

1:27:18

the Canadian system is set up that

1:27:20

way where it's like if you're really

1:27:23

threat like Harper was prime minister for

1:27:25

a fucking 50 right here's the thing

1:27:27

Matt yeah those people operate for a

1:27:29

party chances are if that party wins

1:27:31

again you're going to see pretty much

1:27:33

status quo from the next leader sure

1:27:35

you're not gonna have and that's why

1:27:37

this whole carnie thing is like a

1:27:39

joke because you're not gonna have carnie

1:27:41

come in and act that much differently

1:27:43

than Trudeau Trudeau did Maybe for the

1:27:45

first couple of months to like but

1:27:47

like liberals have a liberal way of

1:27:49

doing things carnies say he was gonna

1:27:51

put a phantom carbon tax. What's interesting

1:27:53

is and he's Separate himself from it,

1:27:56

but Care probably it was like here

1:27:58

and nothing happened and now he's like

1:28:00

here the biggest collapse and he had

1:28:02

no idea what he was doing like

1:28:04

anybody but Trump and anybody but you

1:28:06

can't win and nor should you win

1:28:08

an election he'll never win so they

1:28:10

should have never taken off his glasses

1:28:12

comeer they started talking about snow white

1:28:14

in the doors and that is a

1:28:16

major take something that was a you

1:28:18

know this is a just just do

1:28:20

the part, we'll make the movie, we'll

1:28:22

make a lot of money, and we'll

1:28:24

all go home, because it's snow white

1:28:26

to classic, but she literally ruined it.

1:28:29

I don't understand though, they couldn't use

1:28:31

real dwarfs, why? Because of Peter Dingleage,

1:28:33

is that what he said? That was

1:28:35

a joke. Was that a joke? little

1:28:37

people, whatever that argued, that it's type

1:28:39

casting, whatever. What else are they gonna

1:28:41

get rules in? Well, no, you know

1:28:43

what's funny, Simon? Because I, my mind

1:28:45

immediately went to years where I was

1:28:47

like, I was like, for years, black

1:28:49

and Asian people and Hispanics were like,

1:28:51

we want roles, we want to be

1:28:53

included in Hollywood. This was like part

1:28:55

of the DEA I thing, and it's

1:28:57

like, hey, well, they were giving small

1:29:00

people, dwarves, whatever the fucking proper term

1:29:02

as roles. Yeah, I see what you're

1:29:04

saying. Well, no, it's like, it's almost

1:29:06

like, like you said, they're fighting against

1:29:08

nothing. Well, yeah, it's like, this is

1:29:10

what you wanted. This is the woke

1:29:12

you wanted. We have rolls for little

1:29:14

people. I saw, there was this, there

1:29:16

was a black guy and a woman

1:29:18

on, they were the news anchors for

1:29:20

Fox. And they were talking about how

1:29:22

much they love Trump and blah, blah,

1:29:24

blah, blah. And the person who was

1:29:26

doing this story was like. He thinks

1:29:28

that both of you only got your

1:29:30

job because of because of D. I

1:29:33

because of D. I. And you're there

1:29:35

probably, you know what I mean? Like

1:29:37

he doesn't think you should have those

1:29:39

jobs. He thinks that they should be

1:29:41

white man. Have you seen the show

1:29:43

where, what's the guy from Willow? And

1:29:45

he's representing short people, but every time

1:29:47

he gets a roll, he just takes.

1:29:49

What show is that? Warwick, it's Warwick,

1:29:51

he's great. Anyway, so in early 2022,

1:29:53

Dinglage criticized Disney for what he saw

1:29:55

as hypocrisy. Castig a Latina actress Rachel

1:29:57

Ziegler, a Snow White for representation, will

1:29:59

still rely on what he called a

1:30:01

fucking backward story about seven dwarfs living

1:30:04

in a cave together. He argued that

1:30:06

Disney should reconsider how portrays people with

1:30:08

dwarfism instead of reinforcing old stereotypes. There

1:30:10

it is. Kay, okay, okay, listen. Life's

1:30:12

too good. You know what? Your belly

1:30:14

must be full. Peter Dinkley. Is she

1:30:16

closing a door behind him as well

1:30:18

there? That's easy for the guy who

1:30:20

it was in game of Thrones to

1:30:22

say. But what about all the other

1:30:24

Little people out there who can't get

1:30:26

work who wanted to be one of

1:30:28

these seven dwarfs? Well, he said something

1:30:30

eerie that they couldn't get him for

1:30:32

the Wizard of Oz because they were

1:30:34

all murdered Joe spread that rumor knows

1:30:37

of just me. Okay, all the little

1:30:39

people were murdered from Nazis. He said

1:30:41

Nazis were killing midgets. Eugenic trying to

1:30:43

make everyone perfect. Yeah Interesting. He said

1:30:45

that's why they had them in, they

1:30:47

had like a, an influx of little

1:30:49

people from Germany in the US and

1:30:51

that's why they were able to find

1:30:53

so many of them for the role.

1:30:55

Was that it? We know the Russians

1:30:57

were trying to get them to be

1:30:59

able to fit into UFOs, right? So

1:31:01

they were genetically engineering little people. That's

1:31:03

so fucked. That's wild. I thought it'd

1:31:05

be funny though because I believe if

1:31:08

not corrected Snow White is the first

1:31:10

movie from Walt Disney. They're just buying

1:31:12

up all this IP. They're done thinking

1:31:14

up all this IP. They're done thinking

1:31:16

up. Well, no, it wasn't because no,

1:31:18

no, no. He means the first major

1:31:20

motion picture. Okay, that's probably it almost

1:31:22

sunk Disney. It did. No, they just

1:31:24

lost a lot of money on this

1:31:26

movie. That's fucking drop in the bucket.

1:31:28

Disney just bought the Star Trek rights.

1:31:30

They're just buying up all this IP.

1:31:32

They're done thinking up. That's what's funny

1:31:34

about Disney, too. I don't want to

1:31:36

say the cutting edge because that's a

1:31:38

weird term, but like, banger after banger,

1:31:41

like the 90s, just, I mean, even

1:31:43

before the night... Pixar was such a

1:31:45

huge deal for them, it was like,

1:31:47

nothing didn't work. No, well, fuck, Pixar

1:31:49

before Pixar, before Pixar, Aladdin, Moulin, like,

1:31:51

dude, they went on a roll there

1:31:53

that was insane, and dude, it was

1:31:55

like, listen, some of them were... We're

1:31:57

retelling an old archetype through like animals

1:31:59

or whatever, but it all worked and

1:32:01

they were doing it well. And then

1:32:03

they just, at some point they were

1:32:05

like, all we're gonna do is buy

1:32:07

up IP or rewrite our old shit.

1:32:09

make it worse. It's so crazy to

1:32:12

think like we know that like the

1:32:14

creation of America was done on the

1:32:16

backs of like so many Nazis. But

1:32:18

to find out that they were so

1:32:20

instrumental in like the very core of

1:32:22

like wholesome values in the United States.

1:32:24

Like think about it. Think about the

1:32:26

guys that like Kellogg's Disney like it's

1:32:28

crazy man. Well Kellogg was the masturbating

1:32:30

guy. He wasn't a Nazi. I think

1:32:32

he was a Nazi. Was he? Because

1:32:34

I know he was, he was the

1:32:36

crazy, like he created cornflakes as an

1:32:38

anti-masterbatory cereal. Yeah, I, I, which is

1:32:40

hilarious. Anyways, I think we find out

1:32:42

that a lot of like these prominent

1:32:45

people in history that did very big

1:32:47

things when they came to the United

1:32:49

States were coming from things like operation

1:32:51

paper clip, if not operation paper clip.

1:32:53

Joke was on Kellogg, I jerk before

1:32:55

breakfast. Go ahead, Kammar. I

1:32:57

was holding on it. Oh, I'm

1:32:59

so sorry. No, sometimes you gotta

1:33:01

look into an old book for

1:33:04

a new idea. You gotta do

1:33:06

what I do. Come on, you

1:33:08

just write it down. I give

1:33:10

it a two and a half

1:33:13

per master. He talked about, I

1:33:15

sorry, just before we rate it,

1:33:17

he must have touched on literally

1:33:19

every conspiracy theory in this episode.

1:33:22

Touch on a bunch, yeah. He,

1:33:24

like... First of all, he talks

1:33:26

so fast. He says things and

1:33:28

then doesn't follow up on them.

1:33:31

So a lot of things just

1:33:33

go like. Yeah. You know, Joe

1:33:35

picks the ones he wants to

1:33:37

question him on, but he touched

1:33:40

on so many. There's nothing he

1:33:42

said that wasn't a conspiracy theory.

1:33:44

Ozepic. Another conspiracy theory. I give

1:33:46

it a three. Lizepic? Did you

1:33:48

hear that joke while you were

1:33:51

gone? Come? No. No. What do

1:33:53

you rate it? You said you

1:33:55

listen to us in the in

1:33:57

the desert. Oh, yes, yes. What

1:34:00

do you rate it? I'm gonna

1:34:02

get there Matt. Okay. Shalom to

1:34:04

you. Means hello and go fuck

1:34:06

yourself. I raided a two and

1:34:09

a half. Two and a half.

1:34:11

I love me, some Kurt Metzger,

1:34:13

but it seemed like it was

1:34:15

too close a time, like Kommerson.

1:34:18

Ishala. What if you hundred Kyle

1:34:20

Dunnigan? So just before we start,

1:34:22

this was so annoying. It was

1:34:24

like listening to that lady who

1:34:27

came on, but wouldn't tell us

1:34:29

what was in the book. Got

1:34:31

to buy the book. because Kiltoni

1:34:33

is about to go on Netflix.

1:34:36

This is happening, I think, Monday,

1:34:38

April, whatever, 9th. Is it the

1:34:40

7th? I'm not. You have numbers.

1:34:42

Is it the first episode airing?

1:34:44

Obviously, Kyle was on that episode.

1:34:47

I'm assuming, dressed as... Hello, baby.

1:34:49

That's the most fucking impression I've

1:34:51

ever done in my mind. Yeah,

1:34:53

baby. Yeah, baby. Caitlin Jenner. Caitlin

1:34:56

Jenner. That's what I'm assuming. He

1:34:58

was dressed like Caitlin Jenner the

1:35:00

same way. What's his name? Dresses

1:35:02

like Dr. Phil and Biden. Yeah.

1:35:05

And Joe wouldn't let him give

1:35:07

it away. He kept saying Tony

1:35:09

will be mad. Tony sounds like

1:35:11

a fucking tyrant. It really is

1:35:14

more insane than baseball. I

1:35:16

really feel that I really feel that way

1:35:19

from where from its roots. Oh Kiltoni of

1:35:21

being at the comedy store the downstairs to

1:35:23

this Vulcan to now on Netflix. It's crazy.

1:35:25

It is crazy. Do you think this is

1:35:27

going to be good or bad? I don't

1:35:29

mean for Kiltoni. It's obviously going to be

1:35:32

good. I mean like for what we want.

1:35:34

I think all success has been bad for

1:35:36

us. So yeah. Like us three personally. There's

1:35:38

a thing called roast bowel now must come

1:35:40

up on your feet if you watch anything

1:35:43

you know with Brian Moses. Yeah, I watch

1:35:45

it. Did you watch the one the other

1:35:47

day where Tony Guess came on? I did

1:35:49

watch it. I liked him. I think that

1:35:51

adhered me to whatever you think his character

1:35:53

he plays on the show, the tire, which

1:35:56

and all this, but he seemed more personal

1:35:58

there. You know when I decided that I

1:36:00

might not love Tony, it's when I saw

1:36:02

the clip of him fighting with the guy

1:36:04

who killed himself. Brody. Have you ever seen

1:36:07

that clip, Khmer? Yeah, but I got like

1:36:09

Brody. I'm sure Tony snapped snapped. I'm sure

1:36:11

Tony snapped. It wasn't just for sure. Or

1:36:13

I was just like, that's your understanding of

1:36:15

mental illness. That's your friend. And this is

1:36:17

after the fact. Well, I think that's also

1:36:20

unfair. Like, think about it. You, if you

1:36:22

had the camera out, you might have caught

1:36:24

Khmer and I in a pretty heated battle

1:36:26

at some point in the last six years,

1:36:28

doesn't mean that that represents our relationship. No.

1:36:31

Okay, fair enough. I just, okay, sure. Well,

1:36:33

I'm just like, like, like, listen, those guys

1:36:35

have cameras on them. a lot more than

1:36:37

we do and it's easy to take one

1:36:39

clip out of context or in context where

1:36:41

they're really mad at each other and it's

1:36:44

like a really heated... I just feel like

1:36:46

you give people enough time and you'll probably

1:36:48

find out what they're really like. Sure. A

1:36:50

lot of the time in Hollywood you don't

1:36:52

see that or whatever you want to call

1:36:55

it because they are... Tailoring. It's like an

1:36:57

Instagram page. Yeah, yeah, it's like your resume.

1:36:59

Like I get it. We think because we

1:37:01

listen to guys on podcasts that we really

1:37:03

know who they are. I just felt like

1:37:05

that was like a moment. I get like

1:37:08

Shane Gillis could be a total asshole. Yeah,

1:37:10

I doubt it. Like Shane Gillis could be

1:37:12

a total asshole. Yeah, I doubt it. But

1:37:14

yeah, I doubt it. Shane Gillis could be

1:37:16

a total asshole. Yeah, I doubt it. I

1:37:19

doubt, like Shane, but a total asshole could

1:37:21

be a total asshole. Could be a total

1:37:23

asshole. He's could be a total asshole. He's

1:37:25

could be a total asshole. He's could be

1:37:27

a total asshole. He's could be a total.

1:37:29

He's could be a total. He's could be

1:37:32

a total asshole. He's could be a total.

1:37:34

He's could be a total. He's could be

1:37:36

a total. He's could be a total. He's

1:37:38

could be a total. He's could be a

1:37:40

total. He's could be a total It's weird.

1:37:43

Never know it's going to something odd. Yeah,

1:37:45

I don't know, clips are odd. Fair enough.

1:37:47

Let's move on. Let's give Kyle fucking 10

1:37:49

minutes here. Very brave of Joe to admit

1:37:51

he likes Big Bang Theory. Terrible show. There's

1:37:54

just there's no world where it's funny. If

1:37:56

I told you that sitcom was gonna be

1:37:58

gone 10 years ago I guess he would

1:38:00

have said yeah, it was already on its

1:38:02

way out. Was it 10 years ago already

1:38:04

on its way out? No, okay. Say on

1:38:07

the must see Thursday night at the height

1:38:09

of that like, you know, no one's gonna

1:38:11

watch these one day. I would I would

1:38:13

have been shocked. I mean, I'm still shocked

1:38:15

that sitcom that sitcoms are like, like, but

1:38:18

as tires of sitcoms, yes, yes, and it's

1:38:20

just changed platform. So it's coming back. Well

1:38:22

I'm just saying like changes. I think the

1:38:24

laugh track sitcom on Thursday night as we

1:38:26

know it is kind of dead and that's

1:38:28

a good thing like arrested development was still

1:38:31

a sitcom. It just didn't have a laugh

1:38:33

track. The laugh track was the worst. That

1:38:35

really being told when to laugh or what

1:38:37

to laugh at or or yeah exactly. It's

1:38:39

weird. It could have been the Ray Romano

1:38:42

experience. Like the beautiful, yeah, the universe somewhere

1:38:44

somehow. The beautiful thing, Simon about that show

1:38:46

like Arrested Development or any show with no

1:38:48

laugh track is that like, if you watch

1:38:50

it with six people in a room, different

1:38:52

laughs are going to come at different times.

1:38:55

You know what I mean? The thing, you

1:38:57

might miss something or just all that one

1:38:59

offline, I don't know. I know, it's funny,

1:39:01

like you would think that you wouldn't get

1:39:03

sucked into the laugh track. But you do,

1:39:06

but you do, 100%, when they tell you

1:39:08

it's something, it's something, it's something, it's something,

1:39:10

it's something, it's something, it's something, it's something,

1:39:12

it's something, it's something, it's something, it's something,

1:39:14

it's something, it's something, What really sucks about

1:39:16

the laugh track is it's it's like if

1:39:19

I write something it's so weird for me

1:39:21

to be like insert the laugh track like

1:39:23

I wrote that it's funny you know what

1:39:25

I mean like let the audio like to

1:39:27

me it's like let the audience aside like

1:39:30

it's like let the audience aside like it

1:39:32

was the editor sound editor that does that

1:39:34

sure but either way my point is someone's

1:39:36

deciding like insert laugh here like it would

1:39:38

be like if Kamar told a joke on

1:39:40

stage no one laugh and he pulled a

1:39:43

joke on a joke on stage You

1:39:45

should start doing that, Kamar. Yeah, maybe,

1:39:48

yeah, maybe a knife. How'd you refocus

1:39:50

on YouTube? Sorry? I just thought I'd

1:39:52

just that idea. like everyone says I

1:39:55

mean what is YouTube 10 years in

1:39:57

now strong but we were totally I

1:39:59

mean you would never done it probably

1:40:01

you'd never do it but I probably

1:40:04

would have done it but consciously I'm

1:40:06

gonna start a channel in the five

1:40:08

years this things it'll blow up and

1:40:11

if you just did it people did

1:40:13

make a living people got opportunities it

1:40:15

was in our lifetime I see here's

1:40:18

okay the problem with what you're saying

1:40:20

though is like The people that were

1:40:22

really that usually are really successful in

1:40:25

the space like got in really early

1:40:27

and didn't do it for any sort

1:40:29

of success or clout They just like

1:40:32

and that's when it's the hardest to

1:40:34

do it like oh Yeah, I didn't

1:40:36

hear about YouTube till they said these

1:40:39

people are making this amount of money

1:40:41

Exactly the boat had said I mean

1:40:43

listen mr. B's is a good example

1:40:46

like he came along once people were

1:40:48

making money, but he also didn't do

1:40:50

it I don't think he ever intended

1:40:53

on like being a like being a

1:40:55

billionaire When I first, YouTube was just

1:40:57

for DJ, I get two windows up,

1:41:00

and I remember you did that, DJ

1:41:02

YouTube, I remember that. I didn't think

1:41:04

that I could have filmed myself doing

1:41:07

that, and that's content. I mean, I

1:41:09

remember, dude, it's crazy to think back

1:41:11

now. I remember the day that Google

1:41:14

bought YouTube, it was like a huge

1:41:16

story, I was living in New York,

1:41:18

and it was like, holy shit, they

1:41:21

bought it for a billion dollars, right

1:41:23

now. It's crazy. Well,

1:41:25

just fucking insane. When Joe went

1:41:27

over all the factors that got

1:41:30

the podcast to here, especially the

1:41:32

pandemic, yeah, it being a catalyst

1:41:34

to leave there where things could

1:41:36

have just, it really is, yeah,

1:41:38

of course, say, well, you had

1:41:40

200 million dollars, you could do

1:41:43

anything, but still pieces felt together.

1:41:45

But if Joe had remained in

1:41:47

Los Angeles, Well, I mean the

1:41:49

podcast would have still grown exponentially.

1:41:51

There just wouldn't have been this

1:41:53

new comedy store thing the yes

1:41:56

the commissure would be commissure would

1:41:58

still be the Mecca. But Joe

1:42:00

was doing just fine doing what

1:42:02

he was doing. He was growing

1:42:04

month over month like there was

1:42:06

no. I mean in his defense

1:42:08

it's got it as a long

1:42:11

time comedian like a very long

1:42:13

time comedian it's got to feel

1:42:15

good to open your own place

1:42:17

where money is absolutely never ever

1:42:19

going to be an issue and

1:42:21

you can pay every comedian that

1:42:24

you like. a good wage to,

1:42:26

like, that's gotta feel good. One

1:42:28

way or the other, especially knowing

1:42:30

that, like, I built this from

1:42:32

a podcast in my fucking basement

1:42:34

with Brian, and that Brian has

1:42:37

a fucking comedy, uh, place down

1:42:39

the street, like, I don't know

1:42:41

how it's fucking. That is the

1:42:43

last thing I might have been

1:42:45

look hard. Brian, red band success.

1:42:47

Basically, we thought he got turf

1:42:49

down. Say what you want about

1:42:52

Joe, he has helped out. his

1:42:54

friends for sure like he's made

1:42:56

all of those people multi-millionaires actually

1:42:58

I just heard Andrew Callahan say

1:43:00

someone let him in got him

1:43:02

in and Joe's like get this

1:43:05

guy out of here he's a

1:43:07

reporter got him in where he's

1:43:09

been a mother ship up to

1:43:11

the the greener the green room

1:43:13

yeah interesting trying to think what

1:43:15

was he on Simon I think

1:43:17

if you're in the comedy space

1:43:20

at all You owe Joe Robin

1:43:22

a little tip of the cap.

1:43:24

I think in general what he's

1:43:26

done over the last like five,

1:43:28

ten years has really risen the

1:43:30

whole, like a, I think a

1:43:33

rising tide lifts all ships. I'm

1:43:35

sure. I think even the people

1:43:37

that hate Joe and that aren't

1:43:39

getting invited to the mother ship,

1:43:41

I think whether they like it

1:43:43

or not, they are benefiting from

1:43:46

Joe's success and his... Listen, without

1:43:48

Joe, I mean, are there, I,

1:43:50

I guess there are like... Arena

1:43:52

Comics, but he had a huge

1:43:54

part in like pushing that shit

1:43:56

and what a terror way to

1:43:58

see a comedy show. Like you're

1:44:01

really talking about the antithesis to

1:44:03

what a comedy show should be.

1:44:05

Well it's more of a comedy

1:44:07

event. All these people are going

1:44:09

there on parties. I'm just talking

1:44:11

about as a fan watching a

1:44:14

comedy show. Worse way. It couldn't

1:44:16

be worse. It couldn't be worse.

1:44:18

You're paying the most money for

1:44:20

a subpar experience. I would say

1:44:22

the only large venue that I

1:44:24

will accept for comedy is a

1:44:27

theater. I mean

1:44:29

what is a theater hold like

1:44:31

2,000 people 3,000 I think something

1:44:33

like that like the like to

1:44:36

me the NAC amazing I will

1:44:38

see I will see comedy at

1:44:40

the NAC happily. Yeah, I'm talking

1:44:42

about like I know you mean

1:44:45

like a like a corral center

1:44:47

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1:44:49

yeah, 30,000 plus arenas in the

1:44:52

round. In the round is crazy

1:44:54

to me. I saw what's his

1:44:56

name Everybody hates him Raymond no

1:44:59

he was really popular a long

1:45:01

time ago No, he people give

1:45:03

him credit for like making comedy

1:45:05

huge He has a fucked up

1:45:08

scarty face He's not handsome at

1:45:10

all, but people thought he was

1:45:12

handsome Chris. Oh Come on guys.

1:45:15

He was on a cop show.

1:45:17

No, no, he was on a

1:45:19

cop show. Richard Belzer. No cop

1:45:21

show. Oh, Belzer. That's who I

1:45:24

was thinking. He stole a joke

1:45:26

from Louis C. K. Dane Cook.

1:45:28

Thank you. I saw Dane Cook.

1:45:31

In the round. Well it was

1:45:33

a square but oh no I

1:45:35

guess it was around yeah but

1:45:38

half of the time he has

1:45:40

his back to you. That's why

1:45:42

I find it terrible. Sorry that

1:45:44

was a long way. I like

1:45:47

seeing the other people laughing I

1:45:49

don't I've never been in so

1:45:51

you like seeing the other people

1:45:54

laughing. You like seeing the other

1:45:56

people laughing. I don't know. Like

1:45:58

seeing the other people laughing. I

1:46:00

don't know. Like from across the

1:46:03

arena. I mean I'm with Khmar

1:46:05

when I'm at a comedy show

1:46:07

who looks like they were dragged

1:46:10

there. Yeah, and I'm always like,

1:46:12

why did you come? I guess

1:46:14

my point is, like, at the

1:46:17

Correll Center or at wherever, you

1:46:19

can't see the face of the

1:46:21

person. No, you're looking at a

1:46:23

screen. Across the ice for the

1:46:26

round. No, no, yeah. But you

1:46:28

can see that from a normal

1:46:30

comedy show. It's a little different.

1:46:33

I wish I went to school

1:46:35

where you graded yourself. You were

1:46:37

talking about an A. Take an

1:46:39

A. You guys both saw there

1:46:42

will be blood? Oh yeah, yeah,

1:46:44

yeah, yeah, yeah. It's

1:46:54

a movie game where Matt and

1:46:56

Simon go head to head to

1:46:58

find out what your movie came

1:47:00

out How much it costs of

1:47:02

making how much it made the

1:47:04

box office? This was we're doing

1:47:06

there will be blood because they

1:47:08

talked about the commitment that Daniel

1:47:10

de Lewis does all his roles

1:47:12

Which one was there will be

1:47:15

blood? It's not with Harvey R.

1:47:17

Bardem, that's Daniel de Lewis milkshake

1:47:19

where he's a he's an oil

1:47:21

guy Right and it's got the

1:47:23

kid from Little Miss Sunshine sunshine

1:47:25

The fuck is his name. He's

1:47:27

in everything. He was in that

1:47:29

Hugh Jackman murder movie. Directed by

1:47:31

Paul Thomas Anderson. Really PTA did

1:47:33

this? That's... Pretty young thing. I'm

1:47:35

ready Simon. Okay, just hold on

1:47:37

one second. For the record, I

1:47:39

think I'm... This might be my

1:47:41

worst movie game ever. Okay, I'm

1:47:43

ready. All right, what year? I

1:47:46

said it came out in 2008.

1:47:48

Dude, we both said 2008. That's

1:47:50

crazy. Did you not say 2007?

1:47:52

The fuck! Because that makes you

1:47:54

incorrect. Nice work though, sorry, well,

1:47:56

it's the same year. I said

1:47:58

it costs 40 million and it

1:48:00

made 92. I said it costs

1:48:02

31 and it made 197, but

1:48:04

that's way too much now that

1:48:06

I'm saying. Especially the movie that

1:48:08

you didn't even know what it

1:48:10

was. Budget, 25 million. Simon you're

1:48:12

right there box office 76.2 million

1:48:14

and I was right there on

1:48:16

that all right if we combine

1:48:19

our guesses. Oh you guys are

1:48:21

collectively a genius yeah and you

1:48:23

know what you've an amazing voice

1:48:25

thank you I really liked your

1:48:27

voice say something nice about me

1:48:29

now you took some good notes

1:48:31

It's not true. It's terrible. Wait

1:48:33

a minute. How can they be

1:48:35

terrible? You got us through the

1:48:37

week. Because you know what the

1:48:39

problem with my notes are, I

1:48:41

figured it out, is when Khmer

1:48:43

takes note, he actually just takes

1:48:45

a bulletin note. When I take

1:48:47

a note, I'm like formulating a

1:48:50

thought. And that's how I get

1:48:52

the note out. But that's not

1:48:54

practical for when you're... Because that's

1:48:56

not what the note should be.

1:48:58

The note should be... This is

1:49:00

what we're talking about now discuss,

1:49:02

not this is what I think

1:49:04

now discuss. I mean, I think

1:49:06

in a way he takes too

1:49:08

many notes. I think the notes

1:49:10

should be like let's say it's

1:49:12

a comprehensive, I believe it is.

1:49:14

Let's let's say it's a three

1:49:16

hour episode. I think there should

1:49:18

probably be like two big bullet

1:49:20

points, maybe three per hour. Does

1:49:23

that make sense? Yeah, no, I

1:49:25

get it though, but when you're

1:49:27

taking the notes, you want to

1:49:29

write it all down. No, it's

1:49:31

fine. You just have to, uh,

1:49:33

sit through it. Yeah. Out of

1:49:35

all the notes I took, I

1:49:37

probably read like six of them.

1:49:39

You know what I mean? Listen.

1:49:41

I know I gave you your

1:49:43

flowers, Kamara. That is the worst.

1:49:45

I hate it. I heard what

1:49:47

I wanted to say to you

1:49:49

is, um, in listening, I could

1:49:51

tell you off and are paying

1:49:54

attention. You know when

1:49:56

I'm not saying Pat and Pat Matt

1:49:58

we're talking about something or whatever I'm

1:50:00

like, well, Simon's at the lunch and

1:50:02

budgeting, you come in here and you're

1:50:05

in the conversation like, he is paying

1:50:07

attention. Oh, no, it's because I think

1:50:09

you're zoned, oh, you're locked in. I

1:50:11

had to see what the next thing

1:50:14

was gonna be. So I had to

1:50:16

like decide, am I gonna talk about

1:50:18

that? Am I not gonna talk about

1:50:20

that? There's too much, and I'm having

1:50:22

to take the notes. I'm like. I

1:50:25

can't get into, you know, I guess

1:50:27

that's why you do it twice, which

1:50:29

just seems insane to me. But, um,

1:50:31

well, no, it, if I have to,

1:50:34

uh, paint or I'm working something where

1:50:36

I can't really take the notes. Like

1:50:38

how much this chat cheapity come into

1:50:40

your note taking? Doesn't really. At all

1:50:42

zero? How could it? There's no way

1:50:45

to just say... It takes longer to

1:50:47

set that up to figure it out

1:50:49

because you can parse a transcript of

1:50:51

an episode but it's... But you can't

1:50:53

say to chat GBT like episode 287

1:50:56

of Joe Rogan give me the top

1:50:58

15 most important things they talked about.

1:51:00

I think it's vague. I think if

1:51:02

he somehow had access to the transcript

1:51:05

of the entire episode... and he could

1:51:07

feed that into chat GBT. Well, why

1:51:09

doesn't chat GBT have that? It gets

1:51:11

information from other universes. You have to

1:51:13

cut and paste, like, it's like 30

1:51:16

feet to put that in there, and

1:51:18

then it doesn't, it just says this,

1:51:20

this, this, this, this, this point, you

1:51:22

may not know the context anyway, anyway,

1:51:24

so obviously I searched the internet for

1:51:27

some automated. editing system hoping hoping and

1:51:29

praying that AI can eliminate the edit

1:51:31

and it's not there we're not there

1:51:33

yet okay so his I'm with him

1:51:36

as much as we want chat GBT

1:51:38

to do the mundane shitty jobs it's

1:51:40

not there yet you just need some

1:51:42

child labor that's what you're missing in

1:51:44

this whole equation and that's coming a

1:51:47

Moroccan child. Well, no, you're going to

1:51:49

have your own white child and you

1:51:51

can just train him really young to

1:51:53

do your editing. Oh, dude, that's actually

1:51:56

not a bad idea. Yeah. And it'll

1:51:58

give him a skill that he can

1:52:00

then use when podcasts don't exist anymore.

1:52:02

No, you know what the best is.

1:52:04

He's a kid. He'll be wicked smart

1:52:07

on the computer. He'll know the AI

1:52:09

that'll edit it for me and then

1:52:11

I'll be paying him to edit and

1:52:13

he'll just be plugging it. No, genius,

1:52:15

genius. I like Kyle Dunn again. I

1:52:18

like when Joe talked about JFK assassinations

1:52:20

fighting meat, a whole bunch of topics

1:52:22

that Kyle just really wasn't there for.

1:52:24

If Kyle's career is meant to be

1:52:27

as he would feel more satisfied with

1:52:29

it in Shalah. It will happen this

1:52:31

Monday on the Netflix debut of Kill

1:52:33

Tony, which is really the real story

1:52:35

here that Kill Tony is on Netflix,

1:52:38

everything, even the Puerto Rico thing. You

1:52:40

would think like, well this is over

1:52:42

and the roasts. No, no, no, no.

1:52:44

I didn't, I knew that wouldn't do

1:52:46

shit. The Puerto Rican thing, that was

1:52:49

just a left chite, that was a

1:52:51

political talking point. Anyone who was paid

1:52:53

for, there's no real substance to it,

1:52:55

yeah. All I meant was anyone who's

1:52:58

a Tony fan knew, like, dude, it's

1:53:00

just, it's a comedian telling a joke,

1:53:02

and like Joe said, Puerto Ricans aren't

1:53:04

easily offended. So my problem was when

1:53:06

he said that Tony was the best

1:53:09

roaster alive, because I don't even think

1:53:11

he was the best roaster on that

1:53:13

roast. She was way better. Yeah, I

1:53:15

think she's the best roaster alive. I

1:53:18

would like to see who wrote whose

1:53:20

jokes. You think Tony wrote her jokes?

1:53:22

I don't think anyone writes all their

1:53:24

own jokes. I didn't think Tony's... Isn't

1:53:26

Jeff Ross the best roaster life? I

1:53:29

don't think so either. I don't think

1:53:31

so either. I'm telling you after she

1:53:33

was so good on that. I can't

1:53:35

even remember what her name. But Tony

1:53:37

was doing. Tony was when I went

1:53:40

to see Jeff Ross, I had to

1:53:42

walk out because I, the former of

1:53:44

the show, I really didn't think it

1:53:46

was that great. They pulled up five

1:53:49

people and just roasting. What show did

1:53:51

you did you walk out of? It

1:53:53

was Jeff Ross. They've been at it,

1:53:55

so, you know, Flowers, dues paid. It

1:53:57

is interesting though that the first one

1:54:00

on Netflix, and I guess the idea

1:54:02

is there's gonna be one, everyone's gonna

1:54:04

be on Netflix for now, it's gonna

1:54:06

be weekly, is that it? I guess.

1:54:08

One, if they cared more, would it

1:54:11

look into this? Because it seems like,

1:54:13

and I'm not trying to throw shade

1:54:15

here, but it just, I feel like

1:54:17

Kyle Dunnegan isn't the guy for the

1:54:20

first one on. Well, whatever, whatever that

1:54:22

they were not that they were not

1:54:24

revealing. He can do the best. Caitlin

1:54:26

Jenner. Why do you need Caitlin Jenner?

1:54:28

I have no fun. Why do you

1:54:31

need Dr. Phil? Who knows? You know

1:54:33

what I mean? I think they're just

1:54:35

about having people dress up now. There's

1:54:37

some funny theme. It should be interesting.

1:54:40

To me, and I know you totally

1:54:42

disagree, but to me... Kill Tony was

1:54:44

that its best when the band was

1:54:46

there as part of the thing? Yeah,

1:54:48

because that was the most real. Tony

1:54:51

wasn't like too big for his britches

1:54:53

yet. They kept him in line. I

1:54:55

don't know. I just felt the show

1:54:57

was much better back then. Yeah, that's

1:54:59

fair criticism. And I don't watch very

1:55:02

much anymore to tell you the truth

1:55:04

because I just, it's so like the

1:55:06

same all the time. And I don't

1:55:08

know, I kind of find too that

1:55:11

like, so Tony will tell us who

1:55:13

the, who's the regular, that was unequivocally

1:55:15

one of the funniest fucking things I've

1:55:17

seen. Well, but again, that's being carried

1:55:19

by two guys who aren't part of

1:55:22

that show. Shane is not, and what's

1:55:24

his name? They could do that anywhere

1:55:26

else. And I don't know, I kind

1:55:28

of find too that like, so Tony

1:55:30

will tell us who the, who's the

1:55:33

regular or who gets a golden ticket.

1:55:35

So he decides who's funny. I find

1:55:37

lots of those guys not funny at

1:55:39

all. You know what I mean? And

1:55:42

like, there are way funnier comedians in

1:55:44

Austin, probably, who are not getting a

1:55:46

shot. Well, I would argue that, you

1:55:48

know, getting put on or some of

1:55:50

that too soon. Like, you can't just

1:55:53

make up an hour of material or

1:55:55

whatever it is. Like an example, I

1:55:57

get it, that little guy, the guy

1:55:59

who was like, he looks like a

1:56:02

child. Yeah. Do you know who I'm

1:56:04

talking about? I know who you're talking

1:56:06

about, yeah. He's not funny at all.

1:56:08

It's just a stick. It was the

1:56:10

fact that he looked it, but like

1:56:13

he becomes irregular so he's on all

1:56:15

the time or like. I got a

1:56:17

cerebral palsy that talks to the phone.

1:56:19

Like he's not funny at all. I'm

1:56:21

not funny at all. Hear me out.

1:56:24

Hear me out. Hear me out. Hear

1:56:26

me out. Hear me out. Hear me

1:56:28

out. Hear me out. Hear me out.

1:56:30

I'm not going to say he's not

1:56:33

funny. He's just not an incredible comedian.

1:56:35

He's not so funny that he should

1:56:37

be a golden ticket winner. I think

1:56:39

you're forgetting too that the idea behind

1:56:41

Kill Tony might be that of like

1:56:44

Dragons Den or Shark Tank where it's

1:56:46

like you were like a lot there's

1:56:48

probably a lot of really good comedians

1:56:50

in Austin. I think part of it

1:56:52

is like we have to bring up

1:56:55

five people that will never have a

1:56:57

chance because that's part of the show.

1:56:59

Right, like you don't, like if you

1:57:01

just had five working comedians come up

1:57:04

into a minute every Kill Tony, that's

1:57:06

not as good as having five people

1:57:08

that you know are never going to

1:57:10

be comedians ever. Yeah, like that's, that's

1:57:12

almost part of the show to me

1:57:15

is, go ahead. You know, put your

1:57:17

hands on it. It's got, it got

1:57:19

rhythms of American Idol. That's what I'm

1:57:21

saying. It's kind of an American Idol

1:57:24

thrives my Simon moment. American Idol thrives

1:57:26

off that too. We need the first

1:57:28

couple episodes are how badder people. with

1:57:30

the occasional this person's great and then

1:57:32

you get to the good stuff I

1:57:35

I guess I yeah I just don't

1:57:37

find the people who make it on

1:57:39

that show exceptionally funny so it's like

1:57:41

the cream of the crop isn't rising

1:57:43

to the top it's Tony deciding who

1:57:46

he likes and forcing that into existence

1:57:48

the same existed at the comedy store

1:57:50

though in LA but you're also wrong

1:57:52

time because like a lot of people

1:57:55

think Casey rockets is funny a lot

1:57:57

of people think can't is funny. A

1:57:59

lot of people think Montgomery is funny.

1:58:01

No, no, no, but I'm not talking

1:58:03

about, I'm talking about people that made

1:58:06

it from Kill Tony. I just, here's

1:58:08

my, I think that if you saw

1:58:10

William Montgomery on your own, without ever

1:58:12

having Kill Tony, you would not think

1:58:14

he was funny. You've seen him too

1:58:17

much. Because Tony tells you to think

1:58:19

he's funny. But hold on Cam, I

1:58:21

think if I saw Cam, I'd never

1:58:23

seen him on Kill Tony. It's totally

1:58:26

subjective. Well, yeah, of course

1:58:28

this is not funny in this

1:58:30

person. Yeah, maybe you seem too

1:58:32

much again I also I think

1:58:34

we can all agree that having

1:58:36

somebody like Tony tell you who's

1:58:38

funny influences whether you think that

1:58:40

person is funny I also I

1:58:42

don't think area was funny I

1:58:44

also think you're forgetting the the

1:58:46

key part that you're watching it

1:58:49

on YouTube Like if you take

1:58:51

any night where we've gone to

1:58:53

see comedy at Absolutely. If you

1:58:55

were just to watch that at

1:58:57

home on YouTube smoking a joint,

1:58:59

it's nowhere near as funny as

1:59:01

we've gone out for the night,

1:59:03

you've had a few drinks, you're

1:59:05

at the mother's ship, you're at

1:59:07

the place, there's a lot going

1:59:09

on there. The honor bags is

1:59:11

huge, too. People are focused. So

1:59:13

I get what you're saying, where

1:59:15

like, I don't find this guy

1:59:18

particularly funny, or like, I don't

1:59:20

know. I think comedy

1:59:22

is weird like that though. Like maybe

1:59:24

if we had seen Joe's special live,

1:59:26

I doubt it, but maybe if we

1:59:29

had seen Joe's special live, we would

1:59:31

have thought it was a little funnier.

1:59:33

Is that a possibility? Well, I think

1:59:36

you would get caught up in the

1:59:38

other moment. Yeah. For sure. But again,

1:59:40

that just kind of strengthening my point

1:59:42

is like, we're not, we're not getting

1:59:45

the best comedy. We're not, we're, we're,

1:59:47

we're. You get caught up in the

1:59:49

moment. I don't know. I find the

1:59:52

best parts of Killtoni are like the

1:59:54

ones that are feel like nobody is

1:59:56

pushing anything down your throat. It's these

1:59:58

like moments. that happened with, because you're

2:00:01

getting crazy people from the crowd, you

2:00:03

know what I mean? I find all

2:00:05

the other stuff, the pumping the guys

2:00:07

up and I know what you're gonna

2:00:10

say, fucking hater, but it just makes

2:00:12

it all seem phony to me. Sorry,

2:00:14

just one thing. What I really like

2:00:17

about Kill Tony is when you see

2:00:19

stand-up comedians, you see they're set.

2:00:21

So, or you might get them

2:00:23

on a podcast, right? Where like Shane,

2:00:25

Shane does a weekly podcast with Matt,

2:00:27

you get them on that, but, but.

2:00:29

You get to see them do more improv

2:00:31

like Sam Talent is great on Kill Tony.

2:00:34

Yeah, because again, because it's all off

2:00:36

It's it's witty off the cuff and

2:00:38

you're like this guy's actually like I think

2:00:40

there are comedians that have a good set

2:00:42

and are good stand-up comedians They might

2:00:44

not be the funniest person to hang out

2:00:47

with maybe that's not true. I don't

2:00:49

know. Would you agree with that whereas there

2:00:51

are some people that are just really funny

2:00:53

people and they're also great stand-up

2:00:55

comedians If they're drunk Oh my

2:00:57

god, did you see? This is

2:00:59

hilarious. Did you see? I think

2:01:01

it was a roast battle. Yeah,

2:01:03

it was roast battle and Darnell

2:01:06

was on it. Darnell? Darnell

2:01:08

Rollins was on it. And he

2:01:10

caught feelings. Caught feelings and derailed.

2:01:12

Like, it was so crin, you

2:01:14

know what I'm talking about? Yeah,

2:01:16

it was really bad. Did you,

2:01:19

you didn't see it back? He

2:01:21

was drunk. He was drunk, but

2:01:23

he was like... I don't know was

2:01:25

he drunk? I think he was. I

2:01:27

think he was. I think if you're

2:01:30

not drunk, you know, I'm fucking up

2:01:32

right now, let's dial it back. You

2:01:34

just go on a full victim mode.

2:01:36

Like somebody yells from the crowd,

2:01:39

you ain't no chapell, and he

2:01:41

just fucking loses it, dude. I

2:01:43

ain't no ch- But like, dude,

2:01:45

it was the whole thing was

2:01:47

just bad. Ego's bad. Anyways trying

2:01:49

to make him leave and he wouldn't

2:01:51

leave and like oh real man That's the

2:01:53

movie game. I give this a two and

2:01:55

a half That was all part of the

2:01:57

movie. Yeah, we just dragged it out I

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give it a two, I take that point of five,

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that is irresponsible. I try no longer to let the

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Saturday. I like Kyle. I like Kyle too, but this

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episode stunk. Yeah, stunk. Like it's not a personal thing.

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I'm not like Kyle's a shit human, I'm just like

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this episode, human, I'm just like this episode, fucking. And

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to come out on a Saturday, like if you're gonna

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release a Saturday, this is not a great episode. I

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don't give a fuck. That's it. That's it. That's it.

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All right. Agreed. Terrible episode. I'm gonna go one. There

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we go. Oh, wow. He's really he's really dropping us

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