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Joe Rogan experience experience experience

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on. And your host. Mad. Welcome

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to the Joe Rogan experience experience.

1:02

My name is Matt Floyd, Joan is

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1:07

And Simon. Shalom. What we do here

1:09

is very simple. The three of us

1:11

have listened every episode of the Joe

1:13

Rogan experience this week. We're going to

1:15

rate each episode as well as the

1:17

week on a scale of one to five Jamie

1:19

Vernon's. Were they going to talk with each

1:21

guest? The talking points give our opinions,

1:24

this, that, and the next. Come our

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new patrons, old patrons, did we get

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to that. We no we missed like

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a month worth we didn't okay whatever

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we thank you to all the patrons

1:34

pass and present each ala if if

1:36

it's a if it's I don't know

1:38

something I said or something or just

1:40

thanks McGee are you okay over there

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what's going on a fucking leave a

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comment like and subscribe tell a friend

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I joined the patron for the post

1:49

Joe the show after the show after the

1:51

show we do everything Well, I really

1:53

think, um, if we did miss

1:55

some of these people, they deserve

1:57

their shout out. We can't just...

2:00

He's just over the fucking patrons.

2:02

Or your bag handling. What are

2:04

we doing here? All right, well,

2:06

what are the guests? Give us

2:08

the guest we can go over

2:10

this. 2301. We had Ben. Breaking

2:12

news, actually. 2302 had Ron White.

2:14

And now he's playing on my

2:16

system. And then we. We had

2:18

2303 a colossal debate minds versus

2:20

minds and ideology versus ideology 2303

2:23

Dave Smith and Douglas Murray Can't

2:25

wait to talk about that one

2:27

and then we finished off with

2:29

everyone's favorite healthy tough guy 2304

2:31

Gary Breca breaking off some health

2:33

advice and I think as far

2:35

as messaging goes You can be

2:37

tired of Joe pushing health but

2:39

it's positive messaging Unfortunately. It's positive

2:41

messaging, unfortunately. If you want to

2:44

rape the week. Well no, I

2:46

think it affects your psyche as

2:48

you listen to this positive, good

2:50

advice, you don't take it. I

2:52

am 100% I'm not even joking

2:54

going to get myself a hydrogen

2:56

bath bomb. Yes. Like there's no...

2:58

Do you know what I can

3:00

also? You know what I can

3:02

also promise you? Khmer will get

3:04

one hydrogen bath bomb as well.

3:07

No. Order two, Khmer and that

3:09

will save me the trouble. I'm

3:11

getting the tablets to mix with

3:13

my mineral supplement. No, Khmer's buying

3:15

the actual bathtub, you know, the

3:17

$7,000 one? No. Khmer is trying

3:19

to retroactively getting in his $16

3:21

million lawsuit against the maker of

3:23

the water bottle. I've got a

3:25

lease. Yeah, Khmer's like I think

3:28

I drank I drank from that

3:30

water bottle too. I drank from

3:32

that water bottle too. All right,

3:34

but my idea where we're throwing

3:36

it all away. Yeah, well, we'll

3:38

get back to game back in

3:40

a second raid it I mean

3:42

this can't get any higher. You

3:44

know what I'm gonna give it

3:46

a four because of the gravitas.

3:48

He just wants to say gravitas

3:51

so bad. Yeah, he I really

3:53

want to do shit on you.

3:55

The fuck is going on here.

3:57

What are you rated Simon? Not

3:59

a four, we know that. Go

4:01

ahead, Khmer. He gave it a

4:03

four. Is it a four? That's

4:05

insane. It's one of the craziest

4:07

ratings I've ever heard. What gravitas?

4:09

The dire wolf? No, no. The

4:12

Douglas Murray, Dave Smith, and all

4:14

the... Zero, zero, gromitops. Imagine he

4:16

was like four star excited about

4:18

the fucking dire wolves? No, we'll

4:20

get to it. I mean, I

4:22

can't give this any higher than

4:24

like a 2.4. Oh, the generous

4:26

two, the generous two, the generous

4:28

two, the generous two, let's fire

4:30

it up. Sorry stepped all over

4:32

that generous two. Now, I don't

4:35

know if you guys noticed, but

4:37

this was they broke this on

4:39

Joe Rogan. It was on CNN,

4:41

CBC, MS NBC, anything you want.

4:43

I didn't know they broke it

4:45

on Joe Rogan. Came out on

4:47

Monday. It was kind of strange.

4:49

I mean, if you listen to

4:51

this episode, it sounded like this

4:53

guy tried to tell half the

4:56

world that he had done this.

4:58

And people were like, why don't

5:00

you go fuck yourself, pal? So

5:02

it doesn't, like, like, I know

5:04

you're like he broke it, he

5:06

broke it on Joe Rogan. I

5:08

have this actual like he was

5:10

telling the story about how he

5:12

went to the government and was

5:14

like I feel like there was

5:16

some sort of Joe wanting to

5:19

break it is what I think

5:21

I'm implying so what you're saying

5:23

that nobody in the world before

5:25

this Joe Rogan episode no I'm

5:27

not saying that no like it

5:29

was he was covering the dire

5:31

wolf it wasn't on like you

5:33

there was no kept all that

5:35

secret I bet it was a

5:37

present but I'm saying mainstream media

5:40

saying you know, taking the Jurassic

5:42

Park sort of idea. Okay. And

5:44

then Ben Lam was on all

5:46

of them, but it just came

5:48

out here first. And it's just

5:50

seemed the first strategic show I've

5:52

seen that I think I saw.

5:54

Maybe I didn't see anything. I

5:56

mean, that's weird. But Joe Rogan

5:58

is now the place where it's

6:00

serious. scientific breakthroughs are being published

6:03

to society for the first time

6:05

and I assume they well they're

6:07

not scientists right or they are. Well,

6:09

that gives him the Douglasbury. He

6:11

has to be assigned to the

6:13

second. Well, he's not really talking

6:15

about science. They're doing so. But

6:18

he does bring up a good

6:20

pranur. He does bring up a

6:22

good point, though, because at one

6:24

point, Breca, I remember being like,

6:26

I'm not a doctor. Well, Breca

6:29

was like, don't, listen, I don't

6:31

want to make this clear. I

6:33

have the utmost respect for

6:35

doctors, because I'm definitely. I

6:37

mean they're like we have medical clinics. Yeah.

6:40

Like he's like I run multiple medical clinics

6:42

and it's like it's a weird thing to

6:44

say I run a medical clinic but I'm

6:46

not a doctor. Well I wonder what the

6:49

definition of that really is like a medical

6:51

clinic. I mean listen how about this like

6:53

you could run a you could run a

6:55

medical clinic that's like sports physio and there

6:57

might not be a doctor right? What I

6:59

mean is a certified like you're a

7:01

doctor doctor. Procedures have to be

7:03

done or drugs prescribed. I take

7:06

those those things out like a

7:08

surgery or describing some sort of

7:10

medicine you could I exist in

7:13

that space I'm at and medicine

7:15

is such a broad term like

7:17

home psychopath yeah exactly that doesn't

7:19

mean just because you you have

7:22

a medical clinic it doesn't mean

7:24

it's a government we'll be talking

7:27

about breaking a bit back to

7:29

Ben Lamb he was coming with

7:31

a sorry Brett yeah They should,

7:34

he was talking about the catacombs

7:36

of these museums, and I mean,

7:38

you can only imagine, or one

7:40

imagines Indiana Jones at the end where

7:43

they're driving that thing, but just

7:45

someone on the YouTube, go through

7:47

there and start documenting it all. I

7:50

mean, what's crazy is that they potentially

7:52

have, and again, they might only have

7:54

like 6% of it, but he was

7:56

like, they have the bones of this

7:58

dinosaur that is like the size. of

8:00

a Boeing 747 that they found in Argentina.

8:02

Dude, I went out and he's like, that's

8:04

just sitting in a basement somewhere and you're

8:07

like, I don't know when he said that

8:09

I was just like, everything is a lie.

8:11

Because like, it's like, it's like, there was

8:13

dinosaurs. We have the bones and it's like,

8:15

we're only going to show you certain ones.

8:18

Like, it's weird to think that like, we're

8:20

only pushing certain dinosaurs on you, because we

8:22

don't want to like, like, like, like, what,

8:24

what, what, what, what, what, what, what, scare

8:27

you like, scare you, scare you, scare you,

8:29

scare you? No, but just... No, but who

8:31

even care? What difference does it make to

8:33

anybody anytime, whether there was a dinosaur as

8:36

big as a Boeing 7th 47th? A fucking

8:38

brontosaurus was pretty fucking big, you know what

8:40

I mean? One second one. No, I agree.

8:42

My point is more like, what seems odd

8:45

to me, and I thought about it, I

8:47

was like, the only time in my life

8:49

when I learned about dinosaurs was as a

8:51

kid. Like as a kid, it's like a

8:54

big thing. Everyone did a project on dinosaurs.

8:56

You know what I mean? Do you remember?

8:58

Like, it seemed like when I was a

9:00

kid. For one week, though, it was just

9:03

the first week, because it was a big...

9:05

No, Jurassic Park made a huge... You being

9:07

indoctrinated in... Oh, well, you're younger, yeah, maybe.

9:09

Jurassic Park made a huge, like, then people

9:12

as adults got into dinosaurs, you know? Sure.

9:14

Even then, like, did those people know, like

9:16

those people that were into dinosaurs know about

9:18

this massive Boeing 747 size? No, we know,

9:21

probably not. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. It

9:23

seems odd that, I don't know. When I

9:25

was like eight, I had a book about

9:27

bats, sharks, spiders. It was all that, like,

9:30

I guess it was made for a kid

9:32

to read about these animals that you would

9:34

be scared of. I always remember that, but

9:36

it was just it was a thin cheap

9:38

book that I probably got from Scholastic to

9:41

think what access kid has now. But no,

9:43

he was saying we don't know a lot.

9:45

They were talking, this is near the end

9:47

of the podcast, they're talking about Peru. You

9:50

could take in the pyramids of course, but

9:52

that could be suppressed by, you know, Catholic

9:54

Church. No, but I mean, I kind of

9:56

get why that would be suppressed. I don't

9:59

get why they would care. suppression makes no

10:01

sense to me. Why is that? Why should

10:03

that be suppressed? Well I don't think

10:05

it should be suppressed but it

10:08

actually has some like consequence to

10:10

our lives. That's more explaining to

10:12

do for the church, that's how

10:14

I see it, a bigger dinosaur bone or

10:16

this fish they never talk about. Oh

10:18

just because they've never like... I don't

10:20

know. More unexplained stuff. Uh-huh. I don't

10:23

know. Is that a threat to... and

10:25

maybe it's not even the Catholic Church,

10:27

maybe it's another religion that will not

10:30

be mentioned. The Jews are stopping us

10:32

from knowing about big dinosaurs. No, that's

10:34

not what I say, but like we

10:36

went with that. It doesn't have to

10:39

be... I just don't get why the

10:41

Catholic Church would even give two bucks.

10:43

A church, a religion. Why any religion.

10:45

Why any religion. How be lent to

10:48

all the Catholics, all the Catholics listening.

10:50

Unless that religion is

10:52

like... the church of

10:54

fucking velociraptor or something. I

10:57

don't see why anybody would

10:59

give a fight. I look

11:01

at it as the church

11:03

is like big oil and

11:06

unexplained myths, pyramids, constructions is

11:08

solar and you know. And

11:10

don't, I'm sorry, don't, most

11:12

churches not even believe

11:15

dinosaurs existed? Like

11:18

Catholic churches. I mean and

11:20

there would be why they

11:22

would suppress something. Oh, I

11:24

see they're like not on

11:26

our watch Are you introducing

11:29

another fucking lie? The Brontasaurus

11:31

wasn't big enough for you

11:33

fucking liars It was Adam

11:35

and a ribbone. Let's get back

11:37

to okay. Sorry. So I guess

11:40

what is this is something's happening

11:42

in here. Yeah. We're living in

11:45

a fucking oppressive So, uh, no,

11:47

he works with a lot

11:49

of shit to get DNA.

11:51

Yeah, she's disgusting, but

11:54

what you gotta do. Um,

11:56

they made, at first they

11:58

made the mammoth mice. And

12:00

all this while Joe's teasing something, which

12:02

I started to find quite annoying. To

12:04

stick it in, Joe, let's go. The

12:06

Mammoth mice. That was pretty cool. Yes,

12:09

it is. Yes, it is. I mean,

12:11

I don't know if we need a

12:13

new mouse species out there, but like,

12:15

if you're gonna make one. Yeah. Did

12:17

you look at the picture of them?

12:20

No. You know what I did, though,

12:22

which is odd. Joe. Tusks and like.

12:24

Joe was talking about toads eating mice.

12:26

Oh yes. And I was like, don't

12:28

go there. Oh no, I had to.

12:31

Do horrible. I think just because you

12:33

eat meat, I don't, I think we

12:35

can, I think we overuse the word

12:37

predator. Like I watched a video of

12:39

one of these frogs and they drop

12:42

four live mice into this clear case

12:44

with this frog, this toad. Okay. It

12:46

must take four minutes and dude. He

12:48

misses like 15 times. Like I in

12:50

my head, in my head, I'm like

12:53

in the wild, this thing has zero

12:55

chance of ever catching a mouse. And

12:57

I mean, zero chance. I think you're

12:59

wrong there. I think they look exactly

13:01

like the foliage. They wait for that

13:03

mouse to walk by and it's just

13:06

a one. Simon, this mouse was in

13:08

front of this thing's mouth, like fit

13:10

and shit. The first mouse, they drop

13:12

in, got on the things back and

13:14

was like, this is where I'm staying.

13:17

I think in captivity, animals get odd.

13:19

Like you'll see that a lot with

13:21

snakes. I assume in the wild, when

13:23

a snake wants to hunt something, it's

13:25

got a plan. When they know that

13:28

that thing can't escape them, they become

13:30

like super lazy. They don't want to

13:32

like, it takes sometimes like an hour

13:34

for it to decide to eat the

13:36

mouse. Because keep in mind, I saw

13:39

three, four different toads where they dropped

13:41

the mice in. One of these toads,

13:43

the cane toad, best hunt. That is

13:45

a predator because its tongue was just

13:47

like there's a mouse boom it's in

13:50

my mouth. No, no, I agree with

13:52

you Matt probably Not like predator is

13:54

the wrong word most of these toads

13:56

most animals in fact are plants that

13:58

are predators are Like they take advantage

14:00

of the situation. What do they call

14:03

that? There's a word for it Anyways,

14:05

it doesn't matter if it presents itself

14:07

and they can do it they'll eat

14:09

it like a deer eating a mouse.

14:11

Yeah, yeah, so fucking foreign chicken, but

14:14

they do like keep in mind I'm

14:16

even saying I don't think I'm a

14:18

predator necessarily I eat meat, but if

14:20

you asked me like go out and

14:22

catch an animal and well you could

14:25

definitely catch them like frogs you could

14:27

catch them fish sure sure fish craw

14:29

daddy's I could fish you do I

14:31

think you'd be surprised that what you

14:33

do makes you a predator just like

14:36

that tote I watch naked and afraid

14:38

and Yeah but those people are like

14:40

they're going on the show there are

14:42

some people who are just fans who

14:44

go on the show I mean like

14:47

listen it's just a state of mind

14:49

so they made the mammoth mice and

14:51

now they're working currently working on the

14:53

mammoth which will be cool the dodo

14:55

which is that one went extinct because

14:57

it's stupid it is the meme of

15:00

extinct yeah go the way the dodo

15:02

the Tasmanian tiger which can't go wrong

15:04

The big go eat your baby. If

15:06

it just takes those herpes and covered

15:08

fucking devils will be happy. The tiger

15:11

ate the dodo. But yeah, so they're

15:13

working on those and the big reveal

15:15

is they made a dire wolf, which

15:17

I don't really care about, but it's

15:19

a cute looking wolf. I mean, I

15:22

want to go back to that. Just

15:24

looks like a wolf. Let's go back

15:26

to that cancer. Oh, the Tasmanian devils.

15:28

What a horrible creature. I definitely feel

15:30

like the cure for cancer is somewhere

15:33

in there though. Is it. can transmit

15:35

cancer through like bites and scrapes. Imagine

15:37

how that's how it was, like you

15:39

got it from like a rabid koala?

15:41

Or not even, no, imagine you just

15:44

like, dude, we didn't even realize it's

15:46

like you ticked your arm. on a

15:48

fucking nail. It's like, unfortunately, to bleed

15:50

back into it, Gary Breca said, can't

15:52

just sort of like a zombie thing.

15:54

Well, these things are like zombies. Exactly.

15:57

It's like when those deer get that

15:59

wasting disease. It's gross. Just fucking gross.

16:01

One thing he mentioned that was annoying

16:03

is that there was two toads, because

16:05

the rotors of between them, there's two

16:08

different species. What makes a species a

16:10

species? I don't want to be weird

16:12

about it, but like, this is kind

16:14

of along the same thing of what

16:16

Douglas Murray was talking about, like this

16:19

guy could be way off. He may

16:21

have read a book where it's like,

16:23

oh, this toads exactly the same, but

16:25

you may get an actual scientist who

16:27

studies that toad, who's like, it's not

16:30

just a road, they have different DNA,

16:32

and the way that, you know what

16:34

I mean, like, we're again just going

16:36

off, he said he said they're. Well,

16:38

I'm if that is true, if that

16:41

is true, it's a very weird thing

16:43

to happen that a road can differentiate

16:45

two species or if I was a

16:47

scientist I was trying to get more

16:49

papers. I would just start building new

16:51

species. No, but Simon, hear me out

16:54

like we We're doing this weird thing

16:56

where we're just like it's just a

16:58

road, but it could be a highway

17:00

and on one side of the highway

17:02

could be a plush rainforest and on

17:05

the other side could be like a

17:07

marshland or whatever. Maybe you're not getting

17:09

the whole story. I got you. That's

17:11

all I'm saying is like, again, I

17:13

don't want to be a dick to

17:16

this guy. I don't think he was

17:18

pushing a weird agenda or like trying

17:20

to lie to us. I'm just saying

17:22

that. It's like when you read stats,

17:24

like a statistician could read a stat

17:27

to you and explain it to you

17:29

in a better way, where me and

17:31

you could read the stat and be

17:33

like, holy shit. They could also read

17:35

it to a way that could have

17:38

two meanings. Yeah, like when he was

17:40

talking about the mammoths, and he said,

17:42

yeah, they'll actually bring down the temperature

17:44

of the earth by six degrees or

17:46

the melt, and you're like, that sounds

17:48

incredible. And then I was thinking about

17:51

it, like, like, how many fucking mammoth

17:53

do you need do you need? Yeah

17:55

to lower the to lower the temperature

17:57

of the fucking Arctic or what? The

17:59

craziest thing to mean? What do you

18:02

mean stop? But he doesn't buy any

18:04

of it. Yeah, you're talking, you might

18:06

as well be talking about space. Oh,

18:08

well this is, so you hated this

18:10

guy, because that's why they want to

18:13

make the mammoth. No, it's just to

18:15

do it. No, he's an entrepreneur, like

18:17

you said, all this stuff is open

18:19

source, which is very interesting. Well, he's

18:21

an entrepreneur, exactly, so he wants to

18:24

make money, how are they're going to

18:26

me? But he's not telling you. They're

18:28

going to eat the mammoths. Yes. Yes.

18:30

I'm sorry to step all over

18:33

your punchline, but they're definitely going

18:35

to be selling mammoths. Yeah. Well,

18:37

does that change everything? Yes, it

18:39

changes everything. But if it's not

18:42

mammoth meat, if they can make any kind

18:44

of meat this way. Listen, hold on.

18:46

Just make a new animal and call

18:48

it like a. Burger something, you know,

18:50

chicken steak, chicken steak, perfect, perfect. This

18:52

thing, what's this thing? We call it

18:55

tasty bitch. Have you tried tasty bitch?

18:57

Like Simon, I imagine if they made,

18:59

imagine they made a mammoth and it's

19:01

like 10,000 pounds of meat and it

19:04

tastes like wagoo beef. Mm-hmm. Well,

19:06

that sounds pretty. You know what I

19:08

mean? And they're making it a lot, like

19:10

they're just spitting them out, so it's

19:12

the cheapest, like, like, you can get

19:14

a wagoo mammoth steak steak for like.

19:17

eight bucks at the grocery store. That's

19:19

what I think. Groceries. What a weird

19:21

word. I assume that they're building a

19:23

mating population. Yeah, well, that would be,

19:25

they're not gonna just continue to

19:27

make these like artificial creatures. It is

19:29

funny though, this guy, like Joe kept bringing

19:32

up Jurassic Park and this guy was like,

19:34

come on Joe, we're not like, I mean,

19:36

well, dude, like, it's like you are doing

19:38

that. If I took anything from Jurassic Park.

19:41

It's don't do this. You put a drop

19:43

of water on your fingertip and it may

19:45

go to, like, that's how the fucking universe

19:48

works. You can't fuck with these species.

19:50

They're gonna, they're gonna

19:52

reproduce the butt sex. And

19:54

also, what about with people? Go

19:56

on? Shh, that was a Douglas

19:59

Murray positive. If I ever heard

20:01

it, well no, it's fun in games.

20:03

Right now we're manipulating a wolf or

20:05

whatever. It's a nostalgic thing. But then

20:07

it's like. Then we have Mammoth Boy.

20:10

That's a problem. Is it? Or is

20:12

it natural evolution for us? Because what

20:14

the points they said, or was it

20:16

this one, Brecker? Anyways, that there will

20:19

actually be our interference in the natural

20:21

way that everything got to be this

20:23

way. Right, if something goes extinct, shouldn't

20:25

it be that way for a reason?

20:28

Well, and one of the points you

20:30

said earlier was while we're trying to

20:32

bring back these extinct animals, there are

20:34

animals on the cusp of something was

20:37

too hot. The polar bear is like,

20:39

what the fuck man? You're bringing back

20:41

a dire wolf? I'm dying out here.

20:43

I'm diring out here. to build a

20:46

man with a factor, you gotta kill

20:48

a couple birds. Yes, yeah, for sure,

20:50

for sure. Well, that's what they forgot

20:52

to talk about is they lower it

20:55

by trampling the marshlands and in the

20:57

process, kill everything that survived on those

20:59

forests. Hey, we dropped the temperature by

21:01

six degrees though. But everything's dead. Because

21:04

it's sort of like nature has no

21:06

morals. Of course not. It just. And

21:08

yet it seems kind of very fair

21:10

in a way. nature. Oh yes? Well

21:13

it was interesting when he was saying

21:15

like the only reason that cancer exists

21:17

in those Tasmanian devils or whatever it

21:19

was was because normally the predation would

21:22

have killed off all the ones with

21:24

cancer. He was saying that because they

21:26

lost their natural, because the liger died.

21:28

No, no, no, the Tasmanian tiger. Sure,

21:31

whatever it was, because whatever it was

21:33

died, it wasn't eating the slow and

21:35

shitty population. No, that totally makes sense.

21:37

Yeah, and therefore they couldn't, which also

21:40

brought up a good point. So they

21:42

had all the losers fucking and they

21:44

were breaking gene lines that were too

21:46

weak to survive. Well, I also want

21:49

to bring up, it was interesting to

21:51

me because, you know, you know, about

21:53

how they didn't have enough of the

21:55

DNA to properly recreate it. Okay. And

21:58

then they got 100% of the DNA.

22:00

But I was still thinking to myself,

22:02

I was like, you know, it's like,

22:04

you asked me one day, you were

22:06

like, would you clone Chico? And I

22:09

was like, it's like, you asked me

22:11

one day, you were like, would you

22:13

clone Chico? And I was like, it

22:15

would just wouldn't be, it would look

22:18

like Chico, but because he didn't live.

22:20

up until it dies, right? Like, everything

22:22

that it has to go through for

22:24

thousands of years makes it this apex

22:27

predator. If you, I get that you're

22:29

recreating it from 100% of the DNA,

22:31

but like, you're gonna. But you're making

22:33

a bitch-ass dire wolf. That's kind of

22:36

my point. Yeah, well, I'm just, what

22:38

I'm saying is I'm not, I'm not

22:40

certain you can say that like with

22:42

100% accuracy, this is what a dire

22:45

wolf was when we lost. That's very,

22:47

that's various stud of you to be,

22:49

Matthew, Matthew, Matthew, Matthew. Unless it was

22:51

caused by an extinction event. I don't

22:54

think it died off. Something hit this

22:56

environment. So should we bring back every

22:58

dinosaur that's ever existed? No, that was

23:00

just to push back that this thing.

23:03

It died itself out. Maybe it didn't

23:05

die itself out. No, no. It was

23:07

right in the middle of it's ever

23:09

died. I don't think it matters whether

23:12

it died out or it was an

23:14

extinction level event. What I'm saying is

23:16

that when you when you bring it

23:18

back using the DNA and then you.

23:21

It doesn't live under the same circumstances

23:23

or have to... It's like recreating Encino

23:25

Man but dropping him in the middle

23:27

of New York City to become a

23:30

case man. He's going to become a

23:32

businessman or a business caveman. He's doing

23:34

coke off a strip. It's like a

23:36

week. Still interesting. The giant beaver is

23:39

very interesting. Scarias. considering what a normal-sized

23:41

beaver does? Well, if they had those

23:43

beavers still, you know, if they had

23:45

never died... out, they would have been

23:48

plugging up full rivers, not tiny streams

23:50

and rerouting things and changing the whole

23:52

fucking world maybe. Very interesting. All of

23:54

North America, wherever they were. Well, I'd

23:57

want to know how big they were,

23:59

because like, you know, There's often times

24:01

where they say giant this and it

24:03

just means that it's 10 times larger

24:06

than the normal. Oh, I think that's

24:08

it's like a giant sloth or whatever.

24:10

It's not it's not that big, but

24:12

I'm saying this little beaver that we

24:15

have right now, the ones we have

24:17

right now can fuck up a lake,

24:19

can fuck up like, you know, they

24:21

can do damage. Imagine what these giant

24:24

ones. Oh, yeah. But I mean at

24:26

the same time we had giant, uh,

24:28

uh, the giant cave cave there and

24:30

the, you know, you know, there are

24:33

a lot of things that were as

24:35

big as big as big as big

24:37

as big as big as big as

24:39

big as big as big as it.

24:41

that could have properly taken it out

24:44

of beavers meaning is to chop down

24:46

wood. Well I assume too that the

24:48

trees must have been bigger back then

24:50

like I actually don't know about that

24:53

that's because I think it was just

24:55

like mammoth's living in the forest we

24:57

have today no they would be ancient

24:59

forests. No well we haven't cut down

25:02

we haven't cut like we haven't clear

25:04

cut enough of the ancient forest to

25:06

prove that I think is my point.

25:08

Like there are big, like you can

25:11

go to the redwood forest and those

25:13

trees are, most of those trees haven't

25:15

been like clear cut, right? Like those

25:17

trees have just been there for, well

25:20

I assume that they're, a thousand years,

25:22

10,000 years old maybe, like the younger

25:24

Dryas and then you get a cataclysmic

25:26

event and every tree is gone. Well

25:29

okay, if that happens, that's different. I'm

25:31

talking about what we're talking about is

25:33

like, I guess, yeah, if you're talking

25:35

mammothth, fine. Right? Like, that's way far

25:38

back. I'm not, yeah, sure. They were

25:40

still alive 5,000 years ago, but I'm

25:42

sure their, like, time of prospering in

25:44

the world was 100,000 years before that.

25:47

Maybe it's possible. I just, you know,

25:49

trees can, I don't know, whatever, go

25:51

ahead. I don't know how long trees

25:53

they have for, like, I don't know

25:56

if they last 10,000 years, I have

25:58

no idea. What is the oldest tree?

26:00

It's called the General Sherman. Well, we

26:02

know what the oldest tree. Or maybe

26:05

that's the biggest one. I know

26:07

that there's one, I think it's

26:09

called the General Sherman. It's a,

26:11

it's a Sequoia in the Redwood

26:13

Park, and I think it's the

26:15

oldest or the biggest tree in

26:18

the biggest tree in the world. One

26:20

of the other, I can't remember. But

26:22

they've cut like core samples out of

26:24

it, and they're like, this thing's a

26:26

fucking. Have you know. I try, man.

26:29

I hate to bring it back, but

26:31

they were talking about places that were

26:33

oceans and sub-Saharan and whatnot. Morocco, here

26:35

we go. You were in Morocco. At

26:37

the bottom of the bottom of an

26:39

ocean that was probably an ocean three

26:42

million years ago. That totally, that was

26:44

you bringing up Morocco when it fit

26:46

into the conversation. Bravo, bravo, bravo. That's

26:48

good. I mean, Khmar, you know, it's

26:50

funny to mention that because like when I

26:53

was in Vegas, when I was in Vegas,

26:55

when you go to the Grand Canyon, when

26:57

you go to the Grand Canyon, It's probably

26:59

like 40 feet lower and you can

27:01

see and there's a chance that like

27:03

by the time I'm like about to

27:06

die that's just an empty pit.

27:08

You know what I mean? That

27:10

we see it here in North

27:12

America where technology will find a way.

27:14

Well you know how they say in

27:16

Egypt, you know how they say in

27:19

Egypt, the Nile used to come right

27:21

up to the pyramids? Something like that.

27:23

So like that would have all been

27:25

water. the deserts that you were

27:27

walking through. Still, I wonder

27:29

how... Well, wasn't it also

27:31

plush green? How deep that

27:34

has... Like, even if it's, you

27:36

know, 500 feet deep. I mean, you

27:38

think an ocean is deeper, but in

27:40

a mass of water, you know

27:42

what I mean? Yeah. And that was,

27:45

it was like, or, because when

27:47

you see where the cliffs are...

27:49

a kilometer either way, that this would have

27:51

been the bottom of the ocean if that

27:53

was just a shelf and there's still more

27:55

water that goes up, but you can't. I'm

27:57

gonna ask a really stupid question, because I've

27:59

never thought. about it before, but this

28:01

might be like a stupid question.

28:03

Let's hear. Are the deserts, like

28:06

is sand the jungle that's rotted

28:08

or dried? I don't believe so.

28:10

Where does the sand come from?

28:12

Hmm. No, the sand comes from

28:14

the sand. Does it get blown

28:16

from somewhere? It blows, yeah, and

28:18

the sand moves. Yeah, no, I

28:20

know, I know, I know, I

28:22

know, but I'm saying like. That

28:24

was ocean at one point. So

28:26

that was the, that sand is

28:28

the bottom of the ocean. That's

28:30

what we're thinking. I have no

28:32

idea. That's what we're thinking. God,

28:34

I'm so stupid. Well, no? Oh,

28:37

the education system really runs down.

28:39

There's a lot of fucking sand.

28:41

Yeah, I know a lot of

28:43

information about shit that has no

28:45

bearing on anything on irrational fear.

28:47

You know anyone is? Do I

28:49

know anyone? A thousand years ago

28:51

it was bit by spider and

28:53

they still just can't handle it.

28:55

I mean growing up my mom

28:57

was like really afraid of dogs

28:59

of any size. Dogs is common.

29:01

My dad wouldn't fly my whole

29:03

life. Go figure. That's that's hereditary.

29:06

He got a rubber sun. Like

29:08

I don't like heights, but I'm

29:10

not deathly afraid. Like if you

29:12

put me on a balcony 40

29:14

stories up, I'm not like shaking

29:16

at the knees. Yeah. Defense mechanism.

29:18

But no, I don't think I

29:20

know anyone that's like... I'm not

29:22

afraid of spiders. What do you

29:24

guys think of cats being introduced

29:26

to the ecosystem? Spade and neuters.

29:28

So they're run, but they just

29:30

live everywhere. Dude, I was trying

29:32

to make a tribute question of

29:34

it the other day, but it's

29:37

like how many fucking... How many

29:39

birds that cats kill annually? It's

29:41

fucking insane. Yeah, they've talked about

29:43

it on Rogan. It's like billion.

29:45

8 billion a year well that

29:47

just tells you if we didn't

29:49

have cats we'd be living in

29:51

like the birds yeah where you're

29:53

just getting attacked every day by

29:55

fucking wild packs of crows. And

29:57

how many chickens have to die

29:59

for those wings? Oh, it's a

30:01

crazy amount. Desert, some rocks are

30:03

broken down into sand right in

30:05

the desert. Other sand grains are

30:08

picked up by the wind and

30:10

carried hundreds of miles to the

30:12

desert. Scholars hold the view that

30:14

the primary source of the world's

30:16

quartz sand and sandstone deposits is

30:18

granite rock. That has broken down

30:20

over billions of years. Fucking insane

30:22

isn't that insane to think about

30:24

that it's crazy that in the

30:26

desert is solid rock that has

30:28

been broken down over time well

30:30

just crazy that if you really

30:32

think about it so if you

30:34

if you were in a time

30:37

machine and you went back to

30:39

earth like I don't know a

30:41

billion years ago there's no desert

30:43

there's just fucking rock shale everywhere

30:45

you know what I mean just

30:47

like well there'd be rock deserts

30:49

it would be yeah it would

30:51

be like a I mean dude

30:53

for all we know that could

30:55

have been a mountain that could

30:57

have been a mountain Yeah, and

30:59

maybe it's like floods that break

31:01

that down, right? All the dries

31:03

or younger dries. One sense of

31:05

ocean, it's eroding. I might have

31:08

a photos too of two different

31:10

areas where you're French Canadian, I

31:12

might have photos too. As well,

31:14

where you can tell it was

31:16

a glacial deal because there's giant

31:18

rocks or boulders just in random

31:20

spots. Yeah, that was so weird.

31:22

You may think it's like a

31:24

landslide or something, but it's just,

31:26

it's... it was being dragged along

31:28

by this huge piece of ice,

31:30

or there's places where it was

31:32

for sure crust pushing, because you

31:34

see these st- you can literally

31:36

see how the earth was bunched

31:39

up like a licorice or a

31:41

candy. Like a licorice? It's crazy.

31:43

In the Gatnose, but even more,

31:45

you see it in the Laurentians,

31:47

I find? Well, aren't those the

31:49

end of massive mountains? What

31:51

do those no, I was just gonna

31:53

say the rocks you'll just be walking

31:55

through the forest and all of a

31:57

sudden there is a giant fucking like

32:00

Stone that makes no fucking sense

32:02

how that ever would have gotten onto

32:04

the top of this mountain. Oh for

32:06

sure it's a glacier just or or

32:08

aliens. Well don't get two only

32:11

logical explanations. Or someone

32:13

from Peru because. That's

32:15

how he ended this with that ad

32:17

to Peru which you I think you

32:19

said is the one place you want

32:21

I do very much want to go

32:23

to Peru But this guy broke his

32:25

story. It's interesting stuff. I don't know.

32:28

Well, I mean the dire wolves now

32:30

that you're saying it what

32:32

you're saying totally makes sense

32:34

They're going to say it totally

32:36

makes sense They're going to say

32:38

it's their genetics are going to

32:41

hold some babies are born and

32:43

they know exactly ready to go.

32:45

But a lot of it has

32:47

to do with like if you

32:50

raise that wolf in Mexico instead

32:52

of in the mountains of Colorado,

32:54

you're going to get a

32:56

wildly different creature, you know? Well

32:59

again die it where it where it like

33:01

how hard it is to hunt everything all

33:03

this well that's what the final step is

33:05

they're releasing these and they're gonna study them

33:07

I don't think they're ever releasing the dire

33:10

wolves though right he said right now they're

33:12

living on a 2,000 acre reserve and they're

33:14

free he said we're gonna introduce hunting to

33:16

them that was what he said right now

33:19

the two of them are living on a

33:21

And if you're, if they release the dire

33:23

wolves into the wild, like who's to say

33:25

that they just don't go out and wipe

33:28

out like the whole normal wolf. Or they

33:30

become an alpha wolf to

33:32

all the other. What if their

33:34

pussies own some rabbits just take

33:36

him out? Well, this is what

33:38

he's saying. Well, no, but Simon,

33:41

I think what they would do

33:43

is they would tag them and

33:45

track them and track them and.

33:47

Well, we know that coyotes cover

33:49

like insane. I guess wolves do

33:52

too, because they migrate across

33:54

the, you know, then another,

33:56

might be the same. Maybe,

33:58

maybe the same. No one can

34:00

see no camera. Yeah, it's good to go.

34:03

You can pull your dick out. No, you

34:05

don't like you could. I mean, I give

34:07

lamb like a two and a half. It

34:09

was somewhat interesting. That's it. That's all we're

34:11

giving this guy 40 minutes. Yeah, fine. Perfect.

34:13

Rambling. This guy want from me. Fuck. I

34:15

give it a four. I give it a

34:18

four. He doesn't believe that they're doing it

34:20

for the environment, which... You know, it's funny

34:22

Kamar hates the news, but he wants it

34:24

so bad. I want to push bailing out

34:26

the ocean. Like, with cups? Yeah. Lower that

34:28

level means a lot lower that level lower

34:31

just a little bit every time you're gonna

34:33

put it to take a little bit of

34:35

the canal. Yeah, where do you put it

34:37

on your lawn? Yeah What do you mean?

34:39

Where do you put it anywhere but the

34:41

ocean just start banning what do you do

34:43

it here? That's hilarious you go to Florida.

34:46

They're like you better leave with a bucket

34:48

of water. I am going to give this

34:50

one a three point three and that tells

34:52

you how bad I think the rest of

34:54

the week is okay. It's moving on Breca.

34:56

That's what we're doing. 2304 Gary Breca. Not

34:59

a doctor. Get that right out of the

35:01

way. Pat Murray would have a lot to

35:03

say about this guy. My only, okay, I

35:05

want to get this out of the way

35:07

right away. My biggest problem with these guys

35:09

when they come on is they're reaching a

35:11

lot of people which is great. I have

35:14

no problem with that, but I mean the

35:16

hydrogen water is a cheap one. So I'm

35:18

not talking about this one. Right. But by,

35:20

by and large, when these guys come on,

35:22

the regiment they're talking about is so exceedingly

35:24

expensive that us, the average guy, just can't

35:27

afford it. Like dude, even those lion mains

35:29

mushrooms. Not only can't afford it, but probably

35:31

can't get it either. Access is another.

35:33

the thing. But like,

35:35

I mean, even some

35:37

of the hydrogen water

35:39

stuff he was talking

35:42

about, he was so

35:44

flippantly like, I mean,

35:46

you can get a

35:48

starter pack for like

35:50

$8 ,000. And you're like,

35:52

Well, that was for

35:55

the bathtub. No, I

35:57

get it. But the

35:59

point is, is like,

36:01

the average person in

36:03

the US or Canada,

36:05

or the world for

36:07

that matter, doesn't have

36:10

$8 ,000 to throw

36:12

at a hydrogen. Well,

36:14

let me, let me

36:16

give you a piece

36:18

of unsolicited advice. Yeah. And

36:22

I don't know if this

36:24

is true or not. Yeah, because

36:26

I've done zero research on

36:28

it. But when he was talking

36:31

about the hydrogen water bath

36:33

thing, it reminded me of Tesla

36:35

invention. And again, no research.

36:37

This is just something in my

36:39

mind. That I

36:41

think Tesla had an invention like this.

36:43

And I know, because his shit

36:45

gets no play anymore, you can buy

36:47

that stuff. So you might be

36:50

able to buy one of these bathtubs

36:52

or whatever the machine is to

36:54

hydrogenate the water or whatever. I think

36:56

my point was just that for

36:58

cheaper. When these guys come on a

37:00

lot of the stuff they're pushing

37:02

Joe can afford those cronies can afford

37:04

but you and me like, but

37:06

every now and again, you may get

37:08

a little fucking nug like that

37:10

bath bomb, which he said was what

37:12

like cheap? Yeah, no, and that's

37:14

why I'm not shitting on this guy

37:16

or the hydrogen or in general,

37:19

the be healthy stuff. But Joe did

37:21

ask, where do you buy it?

37:23

Can I go to like the drugstore?

37:25

And he said no. And there's

37:27

only one place you can get it.

37:29

That's not true. You can get

37:31

them on Amazon. The hydrogen hydrogen bombs?

37:33

Maybe not the bombs with the

37:35

tablets that you add to your water.

37:37

Like, I imagine they're like a

37:39

Alka Seltzer. I can't believe you weren't

37:41

already on this for you to

37:43

drink. Oh, no, sir. I'm talking about

37:46

the one that you absorb through

37:48

your skin. Steve will do it talks

37:50

about this all the time. Doesn't

37:52

have a surprise you haven't had water

37:54

for a while. His regimen is

37:56

insane. Yeah, I know. It's the craziest

37:58

rich person futuristic regimen. Wake up

38:00

30 minute red light bed, hydrogen water

38:02

bath. cold plunge I get my vitamin C shots in the sauna

38:04

yeah sorry go ahead well anything he

38:06

does is off of Gary Breca

38:09

because he's in there with

38:11

milk obviously I mean even imagine

38:13

what his lane is even though

38:15

you're supposed to stay in a

38:18

lane so Breca is pretty much

38:20

like a doctor not doctor fuck

38:22

to the stars yeah I'm surprised

38:25

he wasn't a ring-side of that fight. I

38:27

think he was. He was a hundred percent.

38:29

They said it. Yeah. So yes, all that

38:31

is true, but he said there's a

38:34

problem with the possibility of

38:36

doctors operating within the standard

38:38

of care and the doctors need a

38:40

diagnosis and a drug to prove they're

38:43

doing their job. And all these things

38:45

are on the peripheral of it. And then

38:47

that's where he's not a health guy, but

38:49

what is the advantage of prescribing

38:52

this might. I mean, I mean, he...

38:54

sort of mimicked an example of

38:56

what are you eating? Do you guys

38:58

have a doctor? I wonder what your

39:00

conversation is about what you're

39:03

doing personally to optimize

39:05

yourself? That's not even a conversation. You don't have a, you can't in

39:07

this country. have a conversation with your doctor. You see your doctor when

39:09

you have a problem, it's not there for you to formulate like a

39:11

game plan. Yeah, and they're not, no, my doctor will not have a

39:13

conversation. There lies your guy's frustration with what they're talking about. It's like,

39:15

it's just for us, it's because it's not the same. But we have

39:17

the most amazing health care in the world, so. But this is what

39:19

I was, no, right, exactly. This is what I was thinking about, because

39:21

I listened to the end part of the end part of the end

39:23

part of the end part of the end part of the end part

39:25

of the end part of this, because I listen to the end part

39:27

of the end part of the end part of the end part of

39:29

the end part of the end part of the end part of the

39:31

end part of the end part of the end part of the end

39:33

part of the end part of the end part of the end part

39:35

of the end part of the end part of

39:37

the end part of the end part

39:40

of He was talking about RFK and

39:42

how he's going to go in and

39:44

like break this system, hopefully, that is

39:46

like corrupting the medical system. So you're

39:49

not getting the best medical care. You're

39:51

stuck because they're fucking corporate services or

39:53

whatever, you know, which is a good

39:55

thing. That is something that 1,000% should

39:58

be done. But then you have a

40:00

wing nut on the other side

40:02

there, fucking going to war against

40:04

the whole world. So he has

40:06

like this unwinnable fight RFK because

40:08

he's never gonna convince half of

40:10

the people because they already think

40:12

he's a wing nut because he's

40:14

associated with a wing nut. You

40:16

know what I mean? So even

40:19

the Democrats will fight what could

40:21

be good for them? 100% will

40:23

just because it's an idea that

40:25

as the Republicans would fight. Pete

40:27

Buttigudge if he was the health

40:29

minister. I guess my point is

40:31

he, Trump just has so many

40:33

sticks in so many pots right

40:35

now that like, the things that

40:37

he should be known for in

40:39

this four years, the fucking fixing

40:41

the pharmaceutical industry's influence on, you

40:43

know what I mean? All these

40:46

good things he could do aren't

40:48

going to happen because... There's too

40:50

many other things going on at

40:52

the same time. I'm going to

40:54

refer to what I said earlier

40:56

and it's like it's because of

40:58

the news cycle, which it might

41:00

have been in the Ben Lamb

41:02

one, but it's interchangeable. Twenty-four hours

41:04

news, but there's only three stories.

41:06

That's one thing I've learned from

41:08

being a news addict, is there's

41:10

so much possible information, the stories

41:13

from around the world. Do you

41:15

think you wouldn't get in the

41:17

same country the same day, but

41:19

it's the same focus of stories

41:21

and that I find suspect? Well,

41:23

I mean, it's kind of like

41:25

our algorithms, you know what I

41:27

mean? They find out what the

41:29

people want and that's what they

41:31

give. They know that you don't

41:33

want to hear a story about

41:35

dire wolves. You want Trump. They

41:37

probably move in slow motion. Right.

41:40

Yeah. That was funny when he

41:42

started saying about steroids eventually destroy

41:44

the joints. He goes, how much

41:46

steroids? No, it's cortisone. Well, cortisone

41:48

is a steroid. Yeah, but cortisone

41:50

is not what Joe uses. He

41:52

was talking about like the. quarter

41:54

zone they used to fucking jam

41:56

into a player's knee midgame. Oh,

41:58

I think it was a, I

42:00

was watching a, or the, Jay's

42:02

game was in the background and

42:04

the amount of ice they put

42:07

on a pitcher's. Yeah, it's crazy.

42:09

It's like two feet. Yeah, I

42:11

know. It's crazy. It's kind of

42:13

a guy who carries his arm.

42:15

You know what's funny is, it

42:17

also shows me what a pussy

42:19

I am, because like, any time

42:21

I have to ice something, I

42:23

have to ice something. They had

42:25

a fucking, I've definitely, I've definitely,

42:27

no, I've definitely seen guys bare

42:29

arm, like he's saying, eight packs

42:31

of ice just wrapped around. Okay,

42:34

sure. I mean, listen, you used

42:36

to see, ice bath, the first

42:38

place I saw it was football.

42:40

Yeah, it was always in the

42:42

movies. That's what I'm saying, like

42:44

20, 30 years ago, you'd see

42:46

them hopping in the fucking ice

42:48

bath. Friday Night Light. No, no,

42:50

no, the one where it's like,

42:52

uh, rejects from other schools. Stranger

42:54

things. No, man, it's a sports

42:56

show. Oh. Something you, uh... You

42:58

don't know what I'm talking about?

43:01

Oh, it's a reality show. No,

43:03

it's a reality show, but it's

43:05

like a documentary where they're following

43:07

the football team or the basketball

43:09

team. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I

43:11

forget what it's called, but the

43:13

first one has the crazy coach

43:15

who's like yeah, yeah, there are

43:17

so many seasons Last chance you

43:19

there was one where like Last

43:21

chance you last chance you thank

43:23

you. There was one where it

43:25

was football. Yeah, the first three

43:28

were football. Okay, and one of

43:30

the guys because you know they

43:32

like these guys are on their

43:34

last chance. They need to fucking

43:36

make this work and he ends

43:38

up like losing his whatever because

43:40

he won't get in the ice

43:42

bath. I didn't

43:44

know he's saying Joe's inner Joe's

43:46

inner pussy the inner pussy one.

43:49

That's all he was yeah, his

43:51

general didn't win his number one

43:53

voice He pointed out that the

43:55

easy access to food is sort

43:57

of killing us We want our

43:59

food to be you know, anything,

44:01

McDonald's or everything, it's so easy

44:04

to get, you get a meal

44:06

in seven minutes, whatever, but. Well,

44:08

this goes back to the chicken

44:10

steak. If the things we love

44:12

to eat were a little bit

44:14

harder to catch, maybe it would

44:16

all balance out, you know? Well,

44:19

I mean, I notice in the

44:21

Morocco, there are no fat people.

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44:48

today. One or two guys, but

44:51

everyone's fit. There are also no

44:53

wild birds or jobs. They should

44:55

make you run laps at the

44:57

superstore based on what you're buying.

44:59

That's interesting. Or you have to

45:01

do a certain amount of push-ups

45:03

or something. Well, because it is

45:06

socialized medicine, right? So it's like,

45:08

oh, you bought five bags of

45:10

chips? Okay, well, that sounds very,

45:12

like, you better bring the whole

45:14

family down here and run a

45:16

few laps. It's a joke, obviously.

45:18

Well, no, like on bracket, let's

45:21

think about our country or any

45:23

country with socialized medicine. It's very

45:25

odd that we run the country

45:27

the way we do. Like cigarettes

45:29

are taxed at an appropriate level

45:31

if you want to be real.

45:33

Because what they're going to cause

45:35

down the road. Precisely. You're pre-paying

45:38

for the... future ailments that you

45:40

will have and at the same

45:42

time trying to prevent people having

45:44

Israelis by discouraging people high taxes

45:46

precisely on the back McDonald's they

45:48

said to tax the soda pop

45:50

like no and listen in the

45:53

states it's stupid because they don't

45:55

have socialized medicine so in the

45:57

states the cigarettes should be $3

45:59

a pack and a Coke should

46:01

be $0.50 because there is no

46:03

premium on your health because it's

46:05

just you're gonna pay the bill.

46:08

Here though there is an argument

46:10

to be made that McDonald's

46:12

should be taxed like cigarettes

46:14

that even the like think about

46:16

vitamins you know That's something the government

46:18

if you really want a healthy society and

46:21

you really want to save all of us

46:23

taxpayers money There is an argument to be

46:25

made that we should all be getting all

46:27

of our vitamins sent to us monthly Now

46:30

whether you take them or not is completely

46:32

up to you. That's sort of what I was

46:34

trying to go when I was talking about

46:36

how your interaction with your All this stuff

46:38

did the hydrogen bath or whatever there could

46:41

be I don't know community that might be

46:43

gross, but a lot of these Ideas

46:45

or initiatives are on the table Well,

46:47

what's the, sorry, what's the saying? An

46:49

ounce of prevention is worth. Yeah, yeah,

46:52

yeah. No, listen, I think you get

46:54

a guy who's running on, running on

46:56

like vitamins for the people and that's

46:58

a politician I could get behind. I'm

47:00

just saying, like, if really we do

47:02

this weird thing where it's like, we have

47:04

socialized health and it's like. Well we don't

47:07

because I have to pay for all my

47:09

medicine I have to pay for my vitamins

47:11

my teeth somehow are not included in this

47:13

all-encompassing bone every bone in my body like

47:16

we don't really we have a little bit

47:18

of socializing I'm not railing on it there's

47:20

no perfect system but to act as if

47:22

we have like no and it would totally

47:25

this is how you know it's a scam okay

47:27

because you're absolutely right it would be

47:29

in the government's best interest to hit

47:31

all of these things before they ever

47:33

start yeah 100% right yeah and I'm

47:36

not talking about a 20 second participation ad

47:38

that's like why don't you get out there

47:40

and be healthy that's not it no no

47:42

the vitamins is a really good step like

47:44

send them send them in the mail yeah

47:46

but if no one's sick then no one

47:48

needs drugs no one needs hospitals well this

47:50

is what I'm saying that's how we know

47:52

it's a scam that's how you know they

47:54

have to be tied in with the pharmaceutical

47:56

companies because otherwise they would want you to

47:58

get better listen there's always going to be

48:01

sick people. You know what I mean?

48:03

Like, even if you're giving everybody vitamins,

48:05

there's still going to be sick people.

48:07

People are always dying. We haven't eliminated

48:09

that. Or there's just individuals who make

48:11

bad decisions. There's going to be people,

48:14

maybe, there's going to be people who

48:16

make bad decisions. There's going to be

48:18

people who make bad decisions. No one

48:20

knows. Who makes bad decisions. No, but

48:22

forget bad. There's car accidents. We still

48:24

doing them. We don't have enough of

48:26

them. fat instead of the kid getting

48:28

himself fat. I agree. Because I mean

48:31

at some point on the individual that's

48:33

why you say you know what to

48:35

eat this healthy or not. No but

48:37

here but this is kind of the

48:39

point too is it's like we live

48:41

in a world now where eating healthy

48:43

is the most expensive fucking option and

48:45

so you as a poor parent you

48:48

don't really you might be really health

48:50

conscientious but you're like I just can't.

48:52

I can't afford to get fresh food

48:54

every day for my kid and unfortunately

48:56

you've got to eat some frozen chicken

48:58

tendies a couple times a week. That's

49:00

not how it used to be. I

49:03

remember being a kid and you would

49:05

get like the, you know, dollar head

49:07

of lettuce because produce was cheap. It

49:09

was coming from somewhere around you for

49:11

the most part. Well, I mean, it's

49:13

interesting. In the summer it's a different

49:15

argument because there are markets and stuff.

49:17

And I argue that some of this

49:20

stuff is expensive because it... tariffs that

49:22

we have on ourselves but that's a

49:24

no one is come our home but

49:26

I would agree until you go to

49:28

the farmers market and it's like a

49:30

nine dollar head of lettuce this is

49:32

ridiculous well no come our I was

49:34

gonna say those now we're in the

49:37

world where it's like you go to

49:39

the world where it's like you go

49:41

to the local market and they're like

49:43

well we're a local market and we're

49:45

a place 30 dollars an hour and

49:47

we're super no and keep mine I'm

49:49

fine with all that but the point

49:52

is they're like because they're like You're

49:54

cool with all that, but you're like,

49:56

I actually can't afford to do this

49:58

because as long as it's the exact

50:00

same thing as they played in the

50:02

run white with the terrorists. As long

50:04

as it's the same price as what

50:06

they're charging at the grocery store, the

50:09

farmers market always seems like the better

50:11

option. So if it's $9 in the

50:13

grocery store and they're charging $9, it's

50:15

a lot, but like. But are you

50:17

providing for more people that go store

50:19

than you are to? No, but the

50:21

point goes back to... The point goes

50:24

back to like if I'm getting it

50:26

from a local farm and it's not

50:28

it doesn't have to be shipped here

50:30

on eight different trucks it should be

50:32

two dollars cheaper and they should be

50:34

still supporting local like you know what

50:36

I mean that? Yeah well this is

50:38

like why what he's suggesting isn't gonna

50:41

work. Trump because it's going to be

50:43

cheaper for them to keep importing with

50:45

a tariff than it is to pay

50:47

a living wage to all those people

50:49

who now need to clean the heads

50:51

of lettuce. The King's Cafe, the King's

50:53

Cafeteria, whatever you want, it's my idea,

50:55

you do it and solves all this

50:58

stuff. The King's Cafeteria, or some sort

51:00

of place where you can eat all

51:02

day, every day. The other basic like

51:04

the king of Britain. Yeah, well, he's

51:06

our king. That's his point if we're

51:08

if we have this king that's who

51:10

can make decisions Offering the king's cafeteria.

51:12

That's brilliant. I think it's brilliant. This

51:14

is another. What was the idea he

51:16

had outside that I told him he

51:18

should run with? No, that was someone

51:20

else idea the the GDP. You could

51:22

you could adopt it Medicaid Medicare. He

51:24

mentioned those and those are socialized medicine

51:26

within the for-profit American health care system.

51:28

I always get one is for if

51:31

you're over a certain age you get

51:33

it and Medicare I guess is if

51:35

you don't if you can't afford insurance

51:37

you can get it so there is

51:39

free health care in America. Well I

51:41

never understood this and maybe you can

51:43

explain this so if you're a kid

51:45

you break your arm in the United

51:47

States skateboarding yeah you go to the

51:49

hospital and they put a cast on

51:51

do you get a bill at the

51:53

end of that yes so what if

51:55

you are a kid from like a

51:57

lower name they don't fix you or

51:59

what they break the cast this kid

52:01

ain't gotten insurance and that's that no

52:03

because you still have to pay the

52:05

pre there's still money pay yeah I

52:07

mean there is no no but I'm

52:10

saying what if your parents there are

52:12

there are prices that you have to

52:14

I found stupid but cost. I broke

52:16

my leg and I had to pay

52:18

for something. What did you have to

52:20

pay for it? What? Yeah, maybe, maybe

52:22

like a boot. Yeah, okay. That's different.

52:24

That's because you're, don't. Crutches that were

52:26

nice, like good crutches, one of those

52:28

things, like you get the base. You

52:30

get what you paid. The point is

52:32

in this country, if you walk, if

52:34

I walk into emergency right now with

52:36

a broken leg and I show them

52:38

my OHIP card. I'm not there is

52:40

zero charge there's no bill to the

52:42

doctors and the nurses to your bed

52:44

to all of that shit right they're

52:46

gonna cast me up and I'm never

52:49

now keep in mind the one weird

52:51

thing we do that we don't realize

52:53

is like you can't that doesn't happen

52:55

to you in Manitoba what do you

52:57

mean you if you break your leg

52:59

in Manitoba you don't have health care

53:01

coverage there Yeah, okay. You get a

53:03

bill for the broken leg? I've never

53:05

heard of this before. Well, the Ontario

53:07

Health might, they might reimburse you a

53:09

bit, but like, if you were in

53:11

Quebec right now, if you're in Montreal

53:13

and you call an ambulance, you're paying

53:15

for that ambo. It's not covered by

53:17

OHIP. The Ontario Health Plan doesn't cover

53:19

Quebec health care. It's a riddle rack

53:21

and enigma. Health

53:24

Care is a provincial thing. I did have

53:26

to go to the... Yeah, health care is

53:28

a provincial thing. Yeah, but then you can

53:30

get your insurance to... Like I said, you

53:33

can... There is a way where someone will

53:35

pay a bit of it, but it is,

53:37

it's odd, isn't it? Because you'd think health

53:39

care is a nationwide thing, which it is.

53:41

Well, it is. There should be federal health

53:44

care that takes the provincial health care. It's

53:46

a right. It's a right. It's part of

53:48

our rights. And so it's about the administration

53:50

of that right. Like Simon, I live dangerously

53:53

in BC, I never got. I never became

53:55

a BC resident. I never had BC license.

53:57

I never had a BC health card. So

53:59

when I was in BC, if I'd gotten

54:02

hurt, it might have been a little bit

54:04

of an expensive issue for me. Interesting. Now

54:06

keep in mind, when we ended up moving

54:08

back, it was easy because it was like

54:11

I'd never left. I had no, yeah, I

54:13

mean, that makes sense. I thought it

54:15

was only Quebec that you had to,

54:17

uh... I don't know, so I can't comment,

54:19

but I know every province is different. Yeah,

54:21

no, no, it totally makes sense. Yeah.

54:23

Anyways. Anyways. Anyways. It's boring

54:25

for the audience. Very interesting. All right,

54:28

and of course, in all this

54:30

health care and stuff, there's the

54:32

pressure of profit. Yeah, which is

54:34

weird. Involve with the pharmaceutical companies

54:36

working with the nutrition companies. Well,

54:38

hold on, like, so they get

54:40

the diabetes that we have the

54:42

medicine for. And like we, like,

54:45

this tin pot hatchet, like we

54:47

were saying before. You think that's an American

54:49

problem because we have free medicine and yet

54:51

they're still bought and sold by the pharmaceutical

54:53

companies, you know? To a much lesser degree

54:55

though, of course. But yes, you are correct.

54:57

So was just saying they were at a

55:00

doctor and they just mentioned something, you know,

55:02

sort of weird that that, was it when

55:04

you guys say that? I don't know. Well,

55:06

like I said, when I went to see

55:08

my doctor for the first time, the first

55:10

thing he said was he was like. Let's

55:12

get you vaccinated. Let's get a bunch of

55:14

vaccines in you and I was like, no,

55:17

I was like, I'm 42. Have you ever

55:19

heard of so and so? The first, no,

55:21

I didn't know. When I go to the

55:23

doctor, actually not my new doctor, but the

55:25

old doctor had a note on the wall

55:28

that said, only talk to me about one

55:30

thing. Yeah, you can only bring up

55:32

one, the worst. If you have

55:34

two problems, make two appointments, but

55:36

for this appointment, one,

55:38

one ailment ailment. Which is

55:40

crazy because you may have

55:42

ailments that are like I don't know

55:45

all stress related or something. Sorry because

55:47

you don't pay for it you feel

55:49

like he can tell me what to

55:52

do and because it's so hard to

55:54

find a doctor you can't just say

55:56

well fuck you then man I'm gonna

55:58

go and you know Joe Bob down the

56:01

street has a clinic and I'm

56:03

going to go there instead. Sounds

56:05

like a great position to be

56:07

in. Well, it sounds like a

56:09

scam. Like they tell you it's

56:11

free medicine, but it's really like

56:13

you're going to do it our

56:15

way. And they geared that they

56:17

won't figure out to their 50

56:19

years old and then they won't

56:21

care because it's too late. He

56:23

trademarked that, by the way. Yeah,

56:26

but you know, I just hold

56:28

on. I want to back it

56:30

up for a second because it's

56:32

an it's I get what he's

56:34

saying and the message is correct.

56:36

So I'm not I'm not sure

56:38

I understand. Well, what he's saying

56:40

is if you just want to

56:42

live a life of comfort, you're

56:44

probably going to die quicker. Oh,

56:46

I see. You got your life

56:48

on the couch and you just

56:51

once you're 15 years. Oh, yeah.

56:53

Mine body and soul are fed

56:55

by. pursuit and obligation responsibility. Hear

56:57

me. My grandfather lived a pretty

56:59

healthy life and a pretty healthy

57:01

life. So he had a he

57:03

had a quadruple bypass when he

57:05

was like 60. But after that,

57:07

eight super healthy travel went to

57:09

like 15 countries a year, walked

57:11

everywhere, still got Alzheimer's. And my

57:13

point is like to and no,

57:16

no, hear me. Some counts. What

57:18

age did I add? He was

57:20

like 81. No, no, no. But

57:22

hear me out. My point to

57:24

like what Breca's saying. Oh no,

57:26

you're not being grass, I don't

57:28

care. He was old, I get

57:30

it. My point is like, Breca

57:32

can say what he wants is

57:34

like, there's still gonna, there's still

57:36

no rhyme or reason. My aunt,

57:38

my great aunt, aunt is 103

57:41

years old. And she's still moving

57:43

around and kicking. Well, I'm surprised,

57:45

yeah, you guys have a good

57:47

cerebral acuity. But, but we hear

57:49

all the time, like people retire.

57:51

Yeah, and then die a week

57:53

later. Without the purpose that you're

57:55

talking about. There's something to be

57:57

said. And I could argue that

57:59

your grandfather may have benefited how

58:01

he'd done mushrooms or even a

58:03

micro dose of LSD. Just to.

58:06

the neighbors house removed so I

58:08

can put this in Israel of

58:10

all places they're doing something that

58:12

made it tell them you longer

58:14

which would be the equivalent of

58:16

20 years off your life because

58:18

all I hear from Breca and

58:20

Joe talking back about the red

58:22

man. Thank you. No I had

58:24

a I had a the neighbor's

58:26

house removed so I can put

58:29

this in. They're looking forward to

58:31

something. Well, they each believe that

58:33

they're going to comfortably live to

58:35

a hundred to see something To

58:37

be ready for something you know

58:39

how they are calling dementia or

58:41

Alzheimer's type three I remember I

58:43

mentioned this like six months ago.

58:45

Are they trying to treat Alzheimer's

58:47

with like insulin then? No, I'm

58:49

glad you look at me No,

58:51

they're just what they're saying is

58:54

they believe now that Alzheimer's is

58:56

a disease of inflammation. Oh that

58:58

well the hydrogen bath. Okay so

59:00

wonders for that. I'm glad you

59:02

asked how I think the hydrogen

59:04

works or how when he explaining

59:06

it told me is your body

59:08

has hydrogen in it. Yeah. Well

59:10

the whole you put the whole

59:12

makeup is hydrogen. No I mean

59:14

everything in the everything in the

59:16

everywhere is mostly hydrogen. Yeah. your

59:19

body like has to make room

59:21

for the hydrogen so it energizes

59:23

the hydrogen and that takes bad

59:25

stuff with it out and this

59:27

is what a antioxidant idea is

59:29

and then it comes down I

59:31

don't even there's the ad read

59:33

right there everyone is different yeah

59:35

everyone is different so what levels

59:37

of what benefit but this sounds

59:39

great until they get to the

59:41

oxygen chamber with a kid static

59:44

electricity you're actually in the most

59:46

volatile, you're literally in a, yeah,

59:48

you're in a Hindenburg. It's forcing

59:50

so much, because they didn't mention

59:52

it, but you think about that.

59:54

I guess as long as the

59:56

same type you can just get

59:58

blood. Yeah, a transfusion. And it

1:00:00

does its job. The cells know

1:00:02

what to do and just picks

1:00:04

up where anything left off is

1:00:06

really a really interesting thing. Do

1:00:09

you guys know your blood type?

1:00:11

Yeah, I'm, I don't know mine.

1:00:13

A, A, B positive. Oh, no,

1:00:15

wait, I do it. It's my

1:00:17

phone. I'm one of the weird

1:00:19

ones. I'm like B negative. I'm

1:00:21

like, B negative. I'm like B

1:00:23

negative. your own egg. I think

1:00:25

it's B negative is one of

1:00:27

the tough. Maybe I'm O. I

1:00:29

might be O. Anyway, he said

1:00:31

one thing which it seems like

1:00:34

the easiest cheat and the cheapest

1:00:36

cheat is to walk around with

1:00:38

the weight vest on. And I

1:00:40

was just thinking about that. If

1:00:42

I walked around for an hour

1:00:44

or a half hour walk before

1:00:46

work with that on and then

1:00:48

you take it off, if you

1:00:50

put stress on your shoulders, then

1:00:52

when you feel like it just

1:00:54

feels lighter. You know when you

1:00:56

ride a bike for two hours,

1:00:59

then you get off and. You're

1:01:01

like everything feels so like moving

1:01:03

feels very odd. You're about to

1:01:05

start doing weight. Oh, I'm about

1:01:07

to have a yeah. Well, that's

1:01:09

good. Yeah, because you never want

1:01:11

to get that point where you

1:01:13

can't pick up your kid. He

1:01:15

said after you walk around the

1:01:17

weight best, he felt like limitless.

1:01:19

Have you guys seen limitless? Yep.

1:01:22

from that in time the two

1:01:24

racks it brings to as the

1:01:26

budget in the box office. We

1:01:28

all know they won't guess the

1:01:30

year and the patrions are the

1:01:33

real winners here at the table.

1:01:42

It's the movie game where Matt

1:01:44

Simon go head to head to

1:01:46

find out what your movie came

1:01:48

out how much it costs to

1:01:50

making how much it made in

1:01:52

the box office this week we're

1:01:54

doing limitless because he may have

1:01:56

mentioned it he may not have

1:01:59

mentioned it limitless limitless because I

1:02:01

would say for the amount of

1:02:03

effort those guys are putting into

1:02:05

their health, they're not that much

1:02:07

happier than I am. I mean,

1:02:09

I don't know, I'd have to

1:02:11

do some tests, but... I would

1:02:13

argue that the money they have

1:02:15

is probably helping their happiness more

1:02:17

than their health. Like, I don't

1:02:20

think either of them are that

1:02:22

much more healthy than me that

1:02:24

it's making them happy. I think

1:02:26

the wealth is what's... But you

1:02:28

think they are both considerably more

1:02:30

healthy than you are. Of course.

1:02:32

Yes, okay. That's a low fucking

1:02:34

bar, come on. It's a low

1:02:36

bar, buddy. Like, no, no, let's

1:02:39

be really. It might be a

1:02:41

couple of two days from catching

1:02:43

up. No, dude, I ran lightly

1:02:45

the other day. Well, let me

1:02:47

give you an example. I had

1:02:49

to move quickly from Ward 14

1:02:51

to Tentos. Well, that's up a

1:02:53

hill. One block. I got up

1:02:55

there, I was winded. Yeah. Good

1:02:57

thing someone was trying to. Rape

1:03:00

you. Oh, dude. Listen. Let me

1:03:02

put it to this way. At

1:03:04

this point in my life, running

1:03:06

from the cops is definitely not

1:03:08

an option. And if someone is

1:03:10

trying to rape or murder me,

1:03:12

I'm open enough because jump in.

1:03:14

Maybe it's Thursday. Like rape away.

1:03:16

Yeah. Well, you can change that.

1:03:18

Okay, I'm ready. Go. Ready across

1:03:21

the board. I am too. What

1:03:23

year do you have? 2000. Yep.

1:03:25

One. Two. I have 2012. This

1:03:27

is the second week in a

1:03:29

row it's 2011. Oh, fucking motherfucker.

1:03:31

I said it cost 43 million

1:03:33

to make and it gross 236

1:03:35

Okay, I said it cost 18.4

1:03:37

and it made 67.8 Oh, I

1:03:40

was pulling free there about because

1:03:42

the budget is 27 million. All

1:03:44

right. I was yeah, really doesn't

1:03:46

take place anyway. That's what I

1:03:48

was thinking. They're just paid for

1:03:50

Bradley Cooper and Daniro Box office

1:03:52

a hundred and sixty one million

1:03:54

could not have been further off

1:03:56

on that. What did you say?

1:03:58

256. Oh man we're both a

1:04:01

hundred yeah we're both 100 million.

1:04:03

Had you added 100 to your

1:04:05

67th year right there, man? You

1:04:07

guys are one year off. Things

1:04:09

are looking up. There's momentum. It's

1:04:11

weird because I don't even remember

1:04:13

that thing really being in the

1:04:15

theater. Like, do you? I definitely

1:04:17

don't think I saw it. I

1:04:20

did not see it in theater.

1:04:22

No way. You see, you realize

1:04:24

that 2011, that's 14, 50 years

1:04:26

ago. Don't ever say that out

1:04:28

loud again. Don't ever do that.

1:04:30

Sorry. Oh, 2010, only 50, 2010

1:04:32

is yesterday. 2010 is absolutely, 2010

1:04:34

happened yesterday. But I'm saying, I

1:04:36

don't like getting old, I don't

1:04:38

like time. Don't worry, man. What

1:04:41

are you going to say? The

1:04:43

amount of movies that we saw

1:04:45

trailers for. Yeah. a number of

1:04:47

years ago. Well, there was no

1:04:49

streaming. You had to see movies.

1:04:51

So, and I would, I'd say

1:04:53

there's about 10 movies that I

1:04:55

think I've seen because I saw

1:04:57

some big trailers of it before

1:05:00

a movie or whatever. You haven't

1:05:02

seen Limitless? I have. Yeah. But

1:05:04

I'm just saying you saw it

1:05:06

and you saw trailers of it.

1:05:08

I feel like, how did I

1:05:10

probably see that? What year was

1:05:12

that? When did like Netflix start?

1:05:14

No. In that world. Don't ever

1:05:16

talk about 10 years! Don't stop

1:05:18

with the timeline! Mary and I

1:05:21

have been together 13 years and

1:05:23

Netflix has been around that long.

1:05:25

So at least 13 years for

1:05:27

Netflix. So this was probably on

1:05:29

Netflix then. I think that's where

1:05:31

I saw it probably. Yeah, that

1:05:33

makes sense. When was the pandemic

1:05:35

like... 14 years ago. Oh, see?

1:05:37

Doesn't it gross? You're swearing you

1:05:39

did not see in a theater.

1:05:42

Oh, I know I did. And

1:05:44

you did not rent it. First

1:05:46

of all, Kamar. I think it's

1:05:48

too late to be renting videos.

1:05:50

I can say with almost great

1:05:52

confidence that anything that came out

1:05:54

in the last 15 years, I

1:05:56

did not see in the theater.

1:05:58

I've seen probably 40 movies. I

1:06:01

know where I've been. How many

1:06:03

films do you think you've seen

1:06:05

in theater in the last 15

1:06:07

years? A lot. Really? What's a

1:06:09

lot? Give me a number. At

1:06:11

least 15? I've seen probably 40

1:06:13

movies. Okay. And the 10 years?

1:06:15

Yeah. The 10 years? Like 500.

1:06:17

But it's still a lot of

1:06:19

movies. I went to see all

1:06:22

the Avengers movies, all the kids

1:06:24

movies, all the, like now you're

1:06:26

going to be going to lots

1:06:28

of movies. No, I get it,

1:06:30

but hear me out, this guy. Forty

1:06:32

films in 10 years means you went to

1:06:34

like four films a year, which I'm

1:06:37

just saying, hear me out. I used

1:06:39

to like four films a year, which

1:06:41

I'm just saying, hear me out. I

1:06:43

used to go to like four, like

1:06:46

six films a month, like both those

1:06:48

kids were growing up. because they're 10

1:06:50

years apart. I saw all the girly

1:06:52

movies and I saw all the

1:06:55

boyy movies for kids. Yeah, in

1:06:57

the theaters. I still bet you're

1:06:59

not all of them. I still

1:07:01

like true. I gotta be honest.

1:07:04

I still like your number for

1:07:06

a year. Yeah, I'm gonna up

1:07:08

it to like 65. All right. Give

1:07:10

anything else for Breca?

1:07:12

Breca sounds like a movement

1:07:15

for us to leave. Again, you

1:07:17

know, it's almost like Breca has

1:07:19

a bit of the Trump thing.

1:07:22

What's that? He's an asshole.

1:07:24

Yeah. He's a Russian. He's

1:07:26

a Russian operative. The message

1:07:28

in the messenger. He got

1:07:30

into an interesting thing that

1:07:32

I wish he talked more about

1:07:34

is the deficiency of

1:07:36

dopamine. And those are kind

1:07:38

of tests that people could take.

1:07:41

Yeah. Also is this

1:07:43

no it's in the next one

1:07:45

we found out something about our

1:07:47

I mean deficiencies in dopamine. That's

1:07:50

like what like psychiatry is based

1:07:52

on Right is all different levels in

1:07:54

your brain just being a doctor

1:07:56

a loss and you can't build

1:07:58

them back up by like exercise

1:08:00

and that's where I think maybe

1:08:02

oh I try to cook with

1:08:04

animal fats oh no here it

1:08:06

is here it is Jesus Christ

1:08:08

don't negotiate with yourself with terrorists

1:08:10

no with yourself well that's when

1:08:13

you have to do something say

1:08:15

oh no I can do this

1:08:17

in a half hour like that's

1:08:19

the point where you're having a

1:08:21

discussion with the general and the

1:08:23

little bitch and that that's a

1:08:25

good piece of advice like thing

1:08:27

about stuff I could get over

1:08:29

with, I mean it happened today.

1:08:31

I had a half hour before

1:08:33

coming here. I was thinking about

1:08:35

for about 20 minutes about organizing

1:08:37

my page shit, but then I,

1:08:39

the master was on and you

1:08:41

know, I was. put a pot

1:08:43

of tea on and I had

1:08:45

a little negotiation with something you

1:08:47

earned this. I do it all

1:08:49

the time. So stop doing it.

1:08:51

I have to like walk the

1:08:53

dogs and I'm just like, well,

1:08:55

it's, you know, it's pretty cold

1:08:57

on their paws right now. Don't

1:08:59

negotiate with yourself. Today, I had

1:09:01

no reason. I was just like,

1:09:04

I have to do this. It's

1:09:06

warm as shit. I give it

1:09:08

a three. I refuse to go

1:09:10

that high. I will give this

1:09:12

one a... I mean, I love

1:09:14

the hydrogen bomb, so I'll give

1:09:16

that a four and a half

1:09:18

if it works. He doesn't even

1:09:20

try yet. But no, I give

1:09:22

the episode like a 1.5. I

1:09:24

don't understand how you can talk

1:09:26

this long. It's just so boring,

1:09:28

because we were talking about things.

1:09:30

I gave it a three. I

1:09:32

had nothing to do with this

1:09:34

episode. I was looking at him.

1:09:36

Yeah, in closing, I will say,

1:09:38

you know, a guy like Breck,

1:09:40

and I get it, he's all

1:09:42

in on Trump, he's all in,

1:09:44

he's all in, he's all in,

1:09:46

he's all in, he's all in,

1:09:48

he's all in, he's all in,

1:09:50

he's all in, he's all in,

1:09:53

he's all in, he's all in,

1:09:55

he's all in, he's all in,

1:09:57

he's all in, he's all in,

1:09:59

he's all in, he's all in,

1:10:01

he's all in, he's all in,

1:10:03

he's all in, he's all in,

1:10:05

he Makes it so that 50%

1:10:07

of the country are just automatically

1:10:09

not going to get behind it

1:10:11

even if the message is great

1:10:13

make America healthy again You know

1:10:15

what I mean? That's how could

1:10:17

you not get behind that? But

1:10:19

because it's attached to magga and

1:10:21

Trump like I just felt like

1:10:23

like like Doge Separate it from

1:10:25

the thing that's caustic and maybe

1:10:27

just trying do it. You know,

1:10:29

it's also hard, I guess, to

1:10:31

like listen to a guy try

1:10:33

and tell you about your health

1:10:35

when his favorite restaurant is McDonald's,

1:10:37

you know. Well, that's why he's

1:10:39

not the one doing it. Instead,

1:10:42

it's a guy who's like, I

1:10:44

don't even love it. Well, he's

1:10:46

not a great. All right, we're

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are the fucking shit. Come on

1:11:49

naming a number, please. And that's

1:11:51

the movie game. 2302, Ron White.

1:11:53

Now I'll tell you this. We're

1:11:55

gonna start with Ron and then...

1:11:57

Oh, sorry. 2303, Dave Smith and

1:11:59

Douglas Murray. The best debate since...

1:12:01

Game changers? No, since... My guy

1:12:03

and Flint Dibble. Oh yeah, yeah.

1:12:05

Graham Hancock and Flint Dibble. So

1:12:07

the first question, as you guys

1:12:09

have appeared to be immune to

1:12:11

the internet, is who got owned

1:12:13

or who got destroyed. And there's

1:12:15

two camps here. He's either Douglas

1:12:17

Murray or you're Joe and Dave.

1:12:19

There's be speakers as a one

1:12:22

person. Well, like I said to

1:12:24

Matt earlier in the week, I

1:12:26

agreed with some of the things

1:12:28

Douglas Murray said, but it's impossible

1:12:30

to be on his side. He

1:12:32

is such a cantankerous. Just a

1:12:34

fight. What a piece of shit.

1:12:36

What did I call him in

1:12:38

the text? He's a, it doesn't

1:12:40

matter. Yeah, he's the worst. That

1:12:42

aside, did he destroy? No, because

1:12:44

Joe and Dave? No, because he

1:12:46

kept falling back on this, um,

1:12:48

whole, you can't report on something

1:12:50

that you don't, where you haven't

1:12:52

been, like, I guess I'll agree

1:12:54

to this, if you're gonna make

1:12:56

your whole kind of living off

1:12:58

of talking about Israel Palestine, then

1:13:00

go there. You know what I

1:13:02

mean? But if it's just one

1:13:04

of the many things you talk

1:13:06

about on your show. Also, let's

1:13:08

be serious. You're probably fine. It's

1:13:11

a commentary society. Let's be serious,

1:13:13

too. Yeah, it's the problem with

1:13:15

society. Wrong audience. Like you're telling

1:13:17

Joe Rogan listeners, like, you should

1:13:19

have listened to experts. It's like,

1:13:21

yeah, that's not how things go

1:13:23

around here, pal. I don't know

1:13:25

if you've, maybe you're new here.

1:13:27

I was like, go. No, because

1:13:29

I really like Douglas Murray. and

1:13:31

a reporter from the, or journalist

1:13:33

from the New York Times. Because

1:13:35

he, what do they say, if

1:13:37

you have a British accent, people

1:13:39

think you're 20% smarter, you have

1:13:41

a Southern American accent, not American

1:13:43

South accent, you're 20% dumber. No,

1:13:45

I feel like this guy could

1:13:47

have, with a little bit of

1:13:49

honey, he could have gotten his

1:13:51

point across a little better. Because

1:13:53

he just put them on the

1:13:55

defensive right away. But no, right

1:13:57

away he tried to disqualify him

1:14:00

from the debate. Which was, yeah,

1:14:02

that was interesting. Which everyone took

1:14:04

as, uh, he's pushing back

1:14:06

and, uh, you know, the

1:14:08

tables are turning. Really? Because

1:14:10

it just seemed like a

1:14:12

douche-bag move. The thing is,

1:14:14

he was talking about, um,

1:14:16

the reverence for which

1:14:19

he has for Winston Churchill,

1:14:21

who he know was an alcoholic.

1:14:24

And just saying he was

1:14:26

just this great guy, like it's,

1:14:28

it's... It's hard for me to

1:14:30

believe he's not flawless and I

1:14:33

think what Cooper was suggesting is

1:14:35

the motives weren't all Just to

1:14:37

save The British people it could

1:14:39

have been to disable Germany

1:14:41

from doing this to help this industry.

1:14:44

There just could have been more to

1:14:46

it, right? I mean he could have

1:14:48

been but let's call a spade a

1:14:51

spade a spade Britain was part of

1:14:53

that war from the start They were

1:14:55

the ones who were there fighting

1:14:57

to make sure that Germany didn't

1:14:59

fucking take, like the Americans just

1:15:01

came in at the end. Yeah.

1:15:03

The Canadians came too. And this is

1:15:06

the eeriest thing I found about

1:15:08

in history, is we declared a

1:15:10

war on them on a separate

1:15:12

day to establish that we're not

1:15:14

just doing this because it's Britain.

1:15:17

We're thinking these guys are offside

1:15:19

too, so we're going in. That's

1:15:21

interesting because we would have backed

1:15:23

Britain anyway, right? No I know but

1:15:25

we're in we're king people you know

1:15:27

this is this is deciding

1:15:30

to send people without choice

1:15:32

over to die did we

1:15:34

I don't think we sent

1:15:36

people without choice we didn't

1:15:39

have constrict conscription we did

1:15:41

we did like No, because the

1:15:43

draft Dodgers came here. Well, you couldn't make an

1:15:45

American fight for the Canadian army. No, did we

1:15:47

have conscription in World War II? I didn't think

1:15:50

we did. I don't think we did. My grandfather

1:15:52

decided to go fight in the war. He wasn't

1:15:54

forced to fight in the war. That's even better

1:15:56

on our part. We used to be an amazing

1:15:59

country. We still are. Oh, debatable.

1:16:01

I mean, if you hate it

1:16:03

so much. Yes, conscription. He's trying.

1:16:05

He's trying to go to Morocco.

1:16:08

Yes, we did have conscription. There

1:16:10

you go. Back to the facts.

1:16:12

Yeah, you're in your title to

1:16:14

your opinions, but not your facts.

1:16:16

There's this moment where Joe brings

1:16:19

up operational unthinkable, unthinkable, and it

1:16:21

was the hardest core. Pull it

1:16:23

up, Jamie, ever seen, because he

1:16:25

had the one thing that now

1:16:28

Douglas Murray did not know what

1:16:30

he was referring to. But I

1:16:32

still, I, I, he was a

1:16:34

raging alcoholic when's in Churchill, but

1:16:36

he's just put on this pedestal.

1:16:39

Yeah, but I bet if you,

1:16:41

listen, I bet if they asked

1:16:43

how he, how Douglas Murray felt

1:16:45

about the royal family, he'd probably

1:16:48

have great things to say about

1:16:50

them as well. He seems like

1:16:52

he's one of those English type,

1:16:54

like a real pompous high pollutant.

1:16:56

How about this? It's whoever is

1:16:59

just like a... of Stan of

1:17:01

Ronald Reagan. Yeah. There's a type

1:17:03

of person that's a Stan of

1:17:05

Winston Churchill. Yeah. And this is

1:17:08

one guy saying, you know what,

1:17:10

maybe it's not all that. Yeah.

1:17:12

And they're losing their mind, which

1:17:14

makes me think. Yeah, maybe he

1:17:16

wasn't all that. It's a visceral

1:17:19

reaction, exactly. But it was our

1:17:21

prime minister was William Lai McKenzie,

1:17:23

who was crazy. He was the

1:17:25

guy that talked to dead people.

1:17:28

He decided to go to war

1:17:30

and he was an anti-Semite. Sounds

1:17:32

about right. And refuse Jewish refugees

1:17:34

even though we were going into

1:17:36

war so it's in that camp

1:17:39

that Simon was talking about of

1:17:41

actually not caring. I don't think

1:17:43

Canada was a woke country at

1:17:45

one point. Of course we weren't.

1:17:48

It was pretty harsh here. I

1:17:50

mean and some of the stuff

1:17:52

that's happened with first nations is...

1:17:54

evident of that. Of course. Can

1:17:56

I just interject for a second?

1:17:59

Parliament passed the National Resource Mobilization

1:18:01

Act. which introduced conscription for service

1:18:03

in Canada only. Oh, not to

1:18:05

die. Beginning in January 1945, 13,000

1:18:08

proceeded to Britain, but only a

1:18:10

few thousand entered combat in Europe

1:18:12

before the war. Canada was overseas,

1:18:14

was almost entirely a volunteer effort.

1:18:17

So I don't think there was,

1:18:19

and just, you know. Show easily

1:18:21

I was dismissed by you, was

1:18:23

ridiculous. It's still, what Douglas Murray,

1:18:25

speaking about Winston Churchill. And he

1:18:28

did say, I guess we should

1:18:30

give some thanks to Russia for

1:18:32

that it didn't mention us at

1:18:34

all. Like his point was though,

1:18:37

this guy who did all these

1:18:39

great things, you're picking one fucking

1:18:41

fact to focus on to degrade

1:18:43

his character. Well, part of, interestingly

1:18:45

enough, part- That was his point.

1:18:48

Interestingly enough. But maybe there's even,

1:18:50

he gets worse, he gets worse.

1:18:52

Part of Douglas... Maybe, yeah. Part

1:18:54

of his point as well, you

1:18:57

guys just kind of proved, where

1:18:59

he was like, now this wasn't

1:19:01

about Churchill, but he gets to

1:19:03

it later. Part of his point

1:19:05

was like, Kamar just pulled up

1:19:08

something from the internet, and he

1:19:10

interpreted it one way, and you

1:19:12

pulled up something from the internet

1:19:14

that was a little more clear,

1:19:17

right? And his point was like...

1:19:19

You can't call yourself a historian

1:19:21

or do it. He doesn't he's

1:19:24

like I don't care if your

1:19:26

podcast is 36 hours long like

1:19:28

if you haven't gone there and

1:19:30

done the real work just reading

1:19:32

Wikipedia entries doesn't quite get you.

1:19:34

No, but I'm sure if you

1:19:36

did 36 hours just in that

1:19:38

guy's defense if you did 36

1:19:40

hours of podcasting you probably checked

1:19:42

a lot of different sources you

1:19:44

didn't just historical sources you don't

1:19:46

have to be a PhD in

1:19:48

history to read people's fucking essays

1:19:50

and shit, you know what I

1:19:52

mean? Like, sure. No, but I'm

1:19:54

just saying like in general. I

1:19:56

think Douglas Murray's point was like

1:19:58

maybe a true. historian if you're

1:20:00

like a PhD historian can look

1:20:02

at everything and be like well

1:20:04

that's interesting but I don't know

1:20:06

that all the sort like you

1:20:08

could take an excerpt from someone's

1:20:10

diary but Douglas Murray just has

1:20:12

an English degree I hate Douglas

1:20:14

Murray so don't think backing him

1:20:16

up but no but this the

1:20:18

problem is him yeah using that

1:20:20

step-off point was just to discredit

1:20:22

his it wasn't it wasn't well

1:20:24

no long original I dare say

1:20:27

ad hominem I disagree well just

1:20:29

one just one second When he

1:20:31

was talking about Israel, because we're

1:20:33

jumping ahead here, when he was

1:20:35

talking to Israel to Dave, his

1:20:37

point was like, I've been on

1:20:39

the ground there. I've been to

1:20:41

all these places we're talking about.

1:20:43

I've met soldiers on both sides.

1:20:45

I've spoken to all the people.

1:20:47

You're reading articles or watching clips

1:20:49

on YouTube of people talking about

1:20:51

it. And he's like, that's fine

1:20:53

to a degree. But you don't

1:20:55

really know what you're talking about.

1:20:57

It's kind of like when Finkelstein

1:20:59

was debating destiny. And he was

1:21:01

just like, you're so out of

1:21:03

your fucking league here just because

1:21:05

you've read a few things. Palestine

1:21:07

are the worst, like he could

1:21:09

not seed. Oh I agree. Both,

1:21:11

which I think is a defect

1:21:13

in that situation. I agree. You

1:21:15

know what I mean? Here's the

1:21:17

problem I guess is that Hamas,

1:21:19

which is the governing body for

1:21:21

Palestine, like how do you separate

1:21:23

Hamas from Palestine then? The same

1:21:25

way separate Israel and Jews. Or

1:21:27

China and Chinese people. That's true.

1:21:30

you can be Hamas isn't the

1:21:32

country it's a political party his

1:21:34

point what his point is is

1:21:36

like I can be I can

1:21:38

be anti Israel but still not

1:21:40

have a problem of Jews like

1:21:42

I could sit here and say

1:21:44

I don't like what Israel does

1:21:46

as a country I don't like

1:21:48

and then I know that that's

1:21:50

not what I understand what you're

1:21:52

saying what I'm saying is if

1:21:54

you want Palestine to be able

1:21:56

to negotiate some sort of peace

1:21:58

treaty with Israel you have to

1:22:00

get rid of Hamas. Their only

1:22:02

goal in life, their whole goal of

1:22:04

being a political party is to kill

1:22:07

Jews. But can I ask you a

1:22:09

question? That is not the whole

1:22:11

political goal of the Israeli party.

1:22:13

Do you think that's the whole

1:22:15

opinion of Gaza and Palestine? I

1:22:18

mean, it probably is, because it's

1:22:20

all been indoctrinated. I think most

1:22:22

places in the Middle East think

1:22:24

Hamas, they don't want them there,

1:22:27

you know what I mean? We're talking

1:22:29

about like people that have nothing. Just

1:22:31

hear me out. Israel can't get rid of

1:22:33

Hamas. The US can't get rid of Hamas. You

1:22:36

have the two biggest militaries on earth

1:22:38

that can't get rid of this group. I don't know

1:22:40

how the Palestinians are supposed to

1:22:42

get rid of them. I know that you're like,

1:22:44

it's a governing body, vote them

1:22:46

out. You and I spoke over

1:22:48

it last- Oh, no, it's too

1:22:50

late. Okay. I agree. I'm not

1:22:52

blaming it on the policy. I'm

1:22:55

saying we're now in this situation

1:22:57

where you have a war being

1:22:59

fought between two groups. One of

1:23:01

them presumably who doesn't want to

1:23:03

fight the war but who's under

1:23:05

the thumb of an organization that

1:23:07

does. What do you do? Like

1:23:09

what's the what's the answer? Yeah,

1:23:11

I don't know. I think you

1:23:13

have to do propaganda probably.

1:23:16

And you serp. confidence

1:23:18

in Hamas with something else,

1:23:20

but that again is social

1:23:22

engineering, it's evil, but I mean, I

1:23:24

think they're all taught, the Jews

1:23:26

are devils, or whatever the worst

1:23:28

idea you can as children to

1:23:30

propagate it, you know what I

1:23:32

mean? I mean, Simon, I said from

1:23:35

the beginning, like, we learnt from

1:23:37

9-11 that nothing came, nothing good

1:23:39

came of the retaliatory. the retaliation. No one

1:23:42

won. They also retaliated against the wrong people.

1:23:44

No, but what I'm saying is like that's

1:23:46

if they had gone after the Saudis you

1:23:48

might be saying something different right now. No,

1:23:50

but I think this is a good example

1:23:53

where like you're kind of making my point

1:23:55

like you could argue they went after the

1:23:57

wrong people. They destroyed all these homes and

1:23:59

hospitals. and killed children and women and

1:24:02

innocent people. And again, they went

1:24:04

after the wrong people. There are

1:24:06

Hamas there. Okay, okay, I'll play

1:24:08

your game. If America had said,

1:24:10

you know what, we're the bigger

1:24:12

people here. You attacked our buildings

1:24:14

with planes, but we're cool. It's

1:24:17

just gonna give license to other people

1:24:20

to do that and I don't believe

1:24:22

these people who don't say like this

1:24:24

guy was like That vacuum is not

1:24:26

gonna be filled. It's gonna be filled.

1:24:29

Yeah, you didn't let me finish though

1:24:31

I didn't say no I didn't say

1:24:33

you don't retaliate at all What I'm

1:24:35

saying though is like I just think

1:24:38

it would look better on Israel if

1:24:40

they hadn't completely gone in and done

1:24:42

what they had done up to this

1:24:44

point Maybe I'm wrong, maybe you disagree

1:24:47

and that's fine. I'm not saying I

1:24:49

know at all. I don't know what

1:24:51

is right and what is wrong. I

1:24:53

don't know. I don't know what the

1:24:56

answer is. I'm glad it's not my

1:24:58

job to know what the answer is.

1:25:00

I'm glad it's not my job to

1:25:02

know what the answer is. I think

1:25:05

one point Dave brought up is that

1:25:07

he can't pretend like before Israel was

1:25:09

a state. But like where were, I

1:25:12

guess these protests were there. 10 years

1:25:14

ago, but his original point to both

1:25:16

Joe and Dave was Sure was You

1:25:18

guys do this thing where you get

1:25:21

on you? If it's about Winston Churchill

1:25:23

if it's about Israel, whatever and you

1:25:25

talk a huge game, but if you're

1:25:27

ever wrong or if somebody calls you

1:25:30

on your you just say well, I'm

1:25:32

a comedian And that is a problem.

1:25:34

Do you know what I mean? It

1:25:36

gives this out. Joe does it all

1:25:39

the time. The news. Like I'm backing

1:25:41

Trump, but if I'm wrong, I'm just

1:25:43

a stupid comedian. You know what I

1:25:45

mean? Oh no, listen. You're a guy

1:25:48

with huge sway. By the way. Do

1:25:50

you not think he has huge sway?

1:25:52

I think the only person has to

1:25:54

stand behind what they say 100% is

1:25:57

a politician and they all lies. Like

1:25:59

it's all. So sorry. You don't think

1:26:01

that Joe should stand behind what he

1:26:03

says? Joe stands behind what he says,

1:26:06

I think. Well, I mean, he says,

1:26:08

I'm just a comedian, a lot. We

1:26:10

do know all these people have... We

1:26:12

know work, Joe. The hell does that

1:26:15

mean? I have no idea. But come

1:26:17

on, you know, when you go to

1:26:19

a job, you have to be that

1:26:21

person, you are at your work, to

1:26:24

your coworkers, and you're maybe not be

1:26:26

exactly who you are. Whoever we get

1:26:28

from all these podcasts and everyone is

1:26:30

work them. So there's all these things.

1:26:33

So 100% I can't I can't say

1:26:35

but I don't know. Listen comedians definitely

1:26:37

do you can admit that that they

1:26:40

do these guys who talk politically will

1:26:42

then say but I'm just a comedian.

1:26:44

I would say political pundits say that

1:26:46

as well. I mean I well they're

1:26:49

not comedians so they don't have that

1:26:51

out. You know what I mean? I'm

1:26:53

just a journalist. I'm not a politician.

1:26:55

Yeah, okay, sure. Anyways, I don't think

1:26:58

he was a good point he had

1:27:00

there. Yeah, I don't think so either.

1:27:02

And I think I started the whole

1:27:04

thing off on a terrible foot. But

1:27:07

do you agree with him that it

1:27:09

is a right wing podcast? Joe Roga

1:27:11

is a right wing. I mean, it's

1:27:13

more right wing than left. I don't

1:27:16

know exactly about Israel and Hamas. I

1:27:18

say there's more. Again, you've got me

1:27:20

saying Hamas instead of Palestine or Gaza.

1:27:22

sympathizes on that side, but as far

1:27:25

as Ukraine, I think most people have

1:27:27

been, or it's been down the middle.

1:27:29

We say Russia is the bad person

1:27:31

or America via Ukraine is the bad

1:27:34

person. I disagree. I think there's been

1:27:36

definitely a slant towards Ukraine and I'm

1:27:38

not saying that's not right. Like, I

1:27:40

don't know. Not even to discuss. Yeah,

1:27:43

it's kind of weird. The blot of

1:27:45

view Zilinsky is a former comedian. It's

1:27:47

insane. It's insane. He starts Ukraine at...

1:27:49

This point I hate this guy. I

1:27:52

can't make that more clear. It almost

1:27:54

hurt me to have to agree with

1:27:56

like two points he made because he's

1:27:58

such a fucking Listen a broken clock

1:28:01

is right twice a day. It's not

1:28:03

a matter of like he said listen

1:28:05

Douglas Murray's a smart guy Okay, and

1:28:08

I'll give you an example. He made

1:28:10

one good joke and then he ran

1:28:12

with that joke throughout the thing because

1:28:14

he knew he's like I got to

1:28:17

get through to these guys on their

1:28:19

level So he made that fucking libertarians

1:28:21

are biased the bisexuals of and he

1:28:23

just kept hitting that again. He's a

1:28:26

really smart guy He also knows in

1:28:28

his in his defense Well no, you

1:28:30

can disagree with them all you want.

1:28:32

These are excellent orator. I'll tell you

1:28:35

though, if somebody like Dave Smith, if

1:28:37

he's going to shift his, the majority

1:28:39

of what he does to talking about

1:28:41

like politics, the genocide in Israel, it

1:28:44

might not be a bad idea to

1:28:46

find out what first-hand what the fuck

1:28:48

is going on there. The way, at

1:28:50

least what's his name does that, a

1:28:53

soup man. Lex. Lex. He goes, boots

1:28:55

on the ground. So when he comes

1:28:57

back and talks about the war, he

1:28:59

can talk about it from a point

1:29:02

of view of somebody who's seen people

1:29:04

being killed on both sides or not.

1:29:06

You know, like... I give more of

1:29:08

a pass because he is Jewish, but

1:29:11

I remember like... Actually, less of a

1:29:13

pass because he's Jewish. He was giving...

1:29:15

No, I just think he has given

1:29:17

consideration to it. Like I... Into the

1:29:20

mic. I think he has the right

1:29:22

to talk about it. But I appreciate

1:29:24

how horrible is the people that did

1:29:27

die and whatnot. Yeah, no. But they

1:29:29

were talking about it with Abby Hoffman

1:29:31

years ago. Listen to say, I don't,

1:29:33

I've never been there. Abby Martin. Yeah,

1:29:36

but I think it turned out that,

1:29:38

and again, I don't know this for

1:29:40

a fact, but I think Abby Martin

1:29:42

is not like, no, I just don't

1:29:45

know if she's necessarily like an even

1:29:47

balanced reporter going in there looking for

1:29:49

the story. Okay, I don't know about

1:29:51

that. I just she went in with

1:29:54

preconceived notions about one of those sides

1:29:56

and I don't think her stories were

1:29:58

there to give like a Like she's

1:30:00

finding the Israeli soldiers who are saying

1:30:03

these things. I'm sure you can look,

1:30:05

we've seen the videos of the kids

1:30:07

telling, oh that was India, but India

1:30:09

and Pakistan, but I mean I'm sure

1:30:12

the same is true. Yeah, I get

1:30:14

what you're saying. The other point I

1:30:16

found was just an interesting discussion point

1:30:18

is that how in the beginning

1:30:20

to get rid of the British,

1:30:22

they had to employ terrorism. as

1:30:25

part of their doctrine and so it's

1:30:27

happening it's it's just that sort of

1:30:29

thing that well I mean listen that

1:30:32

you do has done to you and

1:30:34

that's what the Ukraine is being accused

1:30:36

of right like theoretically Ukraine wasn't the

1:30:39

bad guys it's this party they brought

1:30:41

in to help them they needed guys

1:30:43

to go fight so they brought in

1:30:45

that neo-nazi party because those guys

1:30:48

are fucking like ruthless soldiers And then

1:30:50

the deal was in order to bring

1:30:52

them in they needed these seats on

1:30:55

the Parliament or whatever and now

1:30:57

they control 30% of the floor Are

1:30:59

you with me? Yeah, when you bring

1:31:01

in cats to kill the rat It's

1:31:03

like when you bring in cats to

1:31:05

you like but that's been going on

1:31:07

forever and everybody does that he dismissed

1:31:09

that Who did Douglas Murray? Yeah, he dismissed

1:31:11

everything Dave said. It was like insane.

1:31:13

And Dave's quoting fucking generals and he's

1:31:15

like, well, that's not right. Well, who

1:31:18

are you going to believe but the

1:31:20

horse's mouth, you know? Well, here's one

1:31:22

of the problems too. Sorry to cut you

1:31:24

off. Here's one of the problems is like,

1:31:26

you knew who Dave Smith was, you knew what

1:31:29

he was about, you came in sort of on

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