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Sandra, can you
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tell me about your
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house in LA? What
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words would you use
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to describe it?
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I raised four children
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there. It was homey.
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It had a view
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of the ocean. It
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had, you know, a deck
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on top. It was home.
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You know, it was home.
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And the house she's talking
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about was in the Pacific
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Palisades neighborhood in Los Angeles.
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You must have so many, but
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do you have a favorite memory
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of the place? You know, it's
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just so hard to say. It's
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having, when the kids would have
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friends over, that was pretty special,
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but they would do that. And
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then also, like, we had, we
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had, um, French windows that opened up
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and I had a fountain because I
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love the sound of water and
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that's a very strong memory for
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me. Sandra and her family lived
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in that house for 38 years
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and the whole time the
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property was covered by California's
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biggest insurer, state farm, that
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was until last year. And then
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in August I think it was
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we got a letter from them
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saying that you were being dropped.
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And we were going to be
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dropped November 25th was the date.
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November 25th, just six
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weeks before fires devastated
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LA, and burned down
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Sandra's home. Thousands of
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California homeowners have been
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dropped by state farm in
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the past few months. Many
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of them, like Sandra, live
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in areas affected by the
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fires. People should know what
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state farm did. Because we are,
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you know, many people in our area
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have State Farm and we trusted them.
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State Farm's decision forced many
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homeowners to enroll in an
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already... stretched insurance program
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back by the state
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and it put even
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more pressure on California's
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broken insurance market. Welcome
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all-one, all-one, all-to-to-one Did
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you have any challenges when it
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came to ensuring your home? Oh
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no! The house is a very
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homey kind of town. Everybody uses
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the services of the town. And
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there was a stay farm agent
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and someone told us, yeah, I
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think our realtor when we brought
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the house said contact him and
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I did and we set it
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up with him. And they had
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all, they had our cars and
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I had the house and he
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never had a problem, wasn't super
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expensive. They were very responsive. For
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years, Sandra was happy on State
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Farm. She knew her agent by
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name, plus State Farm kept Sandra's
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policy inexpensive for decades. Was the
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risk of fire something you thought
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about very much living in the
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Palisades? You know, we were on
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a hill, it's true, but there
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was never a fire there. And
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when they would say you'd need
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to evacuate, it would never be
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because of our area, really. It
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would be, you know, the next
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city would be Malibu. State Farm
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is so we never felt a
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personal risk. State Farm is the
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biggest home in auto insurer in
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the country with more than 90
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million customers. Its California subsidiary has
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the largest market share of any
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insurer in the state covering a
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million home policies. And part of
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why State Farm is so dominant
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is that it has expanded in
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the state while other companies have
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retreated. So other companies like all
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state travelers were pulling back from
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there. They were looking at very
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rapidly rising inflation, they were looking
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at much higher catastrophe risks, and
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the insurers just looked at it
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all around and said, this isn't
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working for us. That's our colleague
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Gene Eaglesham. But State Farm after
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the pandemic... kept on selling in
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these high-risk regions, and we talked
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to lots of independent insurance agents,
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rival agents, and they
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all said they were incredibly
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surprised to see that State
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Farm would agree to ensure
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very high-risk properties. In other words,
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inexplicably, State Farm was
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there. Like a good neighbor, State
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Farm is there. But it turned
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out State Farm couldn't afford
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to be there. Through her reporting,
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Jean found that while the
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company was aggressively selling policies
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at low rates, internally red
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flags were waving. The company was
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taking on too much risk, and
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they needed to dramatically raise their
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rates, but they couldn't. In
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California, insurance companies can only
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increase rates with the approval
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of state regulators. And certainly
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in 2021, 2022, We found
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State Farm's own internal indications
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were that they should have been
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asking for very big rate increases
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to match the kind of risks that
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they were adding up. So they should
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have been asking for 20, 30 percent
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or more, but they kept asking
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for 6.9 percent. A 6.9 percent
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rate increase was the most
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that State Farm could ask
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for without risking a public
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hearing from the California insurance
7:21
regulators. So you had this old
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system where State Farm, they're
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increasing risks, they're putting very
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low rate increases, and they're
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taking a new business that's
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really, effectively they're not charging
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enough for. State Farm says that its
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rate requests were made to match price
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to risk. It added that over
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the past decade in California,
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the company has tried to
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quote, responsibly limit overexposure in
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high-risk areas. So... Why did State
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Farm stay so aggressive in
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California, knowing that it was
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costing their subsidiary like that? It's
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really not clear why they were so...
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slow to turn around and stop
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writing new business and pull
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back. I mean, I think
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the company itself would argue
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that they're owned by policyholders,
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not by public shareholders, and
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so they would say we
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like to stay in places
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as long as we can.
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So they would sort of
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portray as a sign of
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their loyalty, if you like,
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to the market. Independent agents
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said to us they don't
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understand at all. what State
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Farm was doing in those
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years. In 2023 State Farm's
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era of expansion came to
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an end with a change
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in leadership. The California subsidiary
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got a new chief executive
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Denise Hardin. She saw the
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risk State Farm was exposed
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to and decided it was
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time to play hardball. Hardin
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went to the California regulators
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asking for a rate increase
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of 28%. It's a shockingly
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high level. in the context
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of the California market. For
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the biggest insurer in that
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market to say we need
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28% just showed how serious
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things were. And then in
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May 2023, State Farm pulled
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back on new home insurance
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policies. The move put more
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pressure on regulators. One former
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insurance commissioner that Gene spoke
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to described the move as
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quote, crossing the Rubicon. State
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Farm just announced it is
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stop selling new home and
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business policies in our state.
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The new policy went into
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effect Saturday. The insurance company
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cited wildfire risks and the
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skyrocketing costs of construction. State
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Farm's announcement was a blow
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to California's insurance market. And
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the regulators were faced with
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a decision. They really had
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to act. So in the
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fall of that year, we
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saw the regulator. essentially say
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I'm going to give the
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insurers pretty much everything on
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their wish list. That wish
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list included approving much bigger
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rate increases for the state's
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insurance companies. The regulators also
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said that state farm could
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raise their rates by 20
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percent. But it still wasn't
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enough for state farm. In
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March 2024, they announced that
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they would not be renewing
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policies for 30,000 homeowners in
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California. Their argument was, we
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just have too much risk
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on our books. We're still
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making a loss on every
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policy we sell. We have
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to take action now. State
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Farm's decision left customers scrambling.
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Just months later, the fires
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hit, and the risk that
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State Farm had unloaded suddenly
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became California's problem. That's next.
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quote, the burden is on state farm
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to show why this is needed now.
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State farm has not met its burden.
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State farm has been asked to
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make its case at a meeting next
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week. After the fires, Sandra and
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her husband decided to accelerate
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a plan to retire in
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Hawaii. They'd plan to rent
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out their palisades home. Now,
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they're wondering what to do
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with their burned out lot. You
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know what I hope I never
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go back. Oh, what is that?
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Palaces, again, it's 38 years.
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It's, it, that's, that's
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home, I knew where
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everything was. So many
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things burned down, the
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elementary schools burned down.
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The high school is
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non-functional. This, like, right
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down the street, the
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stores, you know, where
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our kids would go. to
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after school to buy French fries
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and just hang out and be
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bad because they were kids. And
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it's like, it's not there anymore.
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For Sandra, rebuilding her home
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is out of the question.
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One reason for this is
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she isn't confident she'll get
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insurance again. To me, it's
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sort of like, it's a place
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that won't exist anymore.
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A whole town. I can't even
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believe that, but it's a whole
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town. You know, on a whole
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lifestyle. That won't exist anymore.
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That's all for
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today Wednesday February
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19th. The journal
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is a co-production
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of Spotify and
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Journal. Additional reporting
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in this episode
19:46
from Susan Pulliam.
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Thanks for listening.
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See tomorrow.
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