State Farm Cut Policies. Then the Fires Hit.

State Farm Cut Policies. Then the Fires Hit.

Released Wednesday, 19th February 2025
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State Farm Cut Policies. Then the Fires Hit.

State Farm Cut Policies. Then the Fires Hit.

State Farm Cut Policies. Then the Fires Hit.

State Farm Cut Policies. Then the Fires Hit.

Wednesday, 19th February 2025
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0:00

Sandra, can you

0:02

tell me about your

0:04

house in LA? What

0:06

words would you use

0:09

to describe it?

0:11

I raised four children

0:13

there. It was homey.

0:16

It had a view

0:18

of the ocean. It

0:20

had, you know, a deck

0:23

on top. It was home.

0:25

You know, it was home.

0:28

And the house she's talking

0:30

about was in the Pacific

0:32

Palisades neighborhood in Los Angeles.

0:34

You must have so many, but

0:37

do you have a favorite memory

0:39

of the place? You know, it's

0:41

just so hard to say. It's

0:43

having, when the kids would have

0:46

friends over, that was pretty special,

0:48

but they would do that. And

0:50

then also, like, we had, we

0:52

had, um, French windows that opened up

0:55

and I had a fountain because I

0:57

love the sound of water and

0:59

that's a very strong memory for

1:01

me. Sandra and her family lived

1:03

in that house for 38 years

1:05

and the whole time the

1:07

property was covered by California's

1:10

biggest insurer, state farm, that

1:12

was until last year. And then

1:14

in August I think it was

1:16

we got a letter from them

1:18

saying that you were being dropped.

1:20

And we were going to be

1:23

dropped November 25th was the date.

1:25

November 25th, just six

1:27

weeks before fires devastated

1:30

LA, and burned down

1:32

Sandra's home. Thousands of

1:35

California homeowners have been

1:37

dropped by state farm in

1:39

the past few months. Many

1:41

of them, like Sandra, live

1:44

in areas affected by the

1:46

fires. People should know what

1:48

state farm did. Because we are,

1:50

you know, many people in our area

1:53

have State Farm and we trusted them.

1:55

State Farm's decision forced many

1:57

homeowners to enroll in an

2:00

already... stretched insurance program

2:02

back by the state

2:04

and it put even

2:07

more pressure on California's

2:10

broken insurance market. Welcome

2:12

to the journal, our

2:15

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2:22

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all-one, all-one, all-to-to-one Did

4:15

you have any challenges when it

4:17

came to ensuring your home? Oh

4:19

no! The house is a very

4:21

homey kind of town. Everybody uses

4:23

the services of the town. And

4:25

there was a stay farm agent

4:28

and someone told us, yeah, I

4:30

think our realtor when we brought

4:32

the house said contact him and

4:34

I did and we set it

4:36

up with him. And they had

4:38

all, they had our cars and

4:41

I had the house and he

4:43

never had a problem, wasn't super

4:45

expensive. They were very responsive. For

4:47

years, Sandra was happy on State

4:49

Farm. She knew her agent by

4:51

name, plus State Farm kept Sandra's

4:54

policy inexpensive for decades. Was the

4:56

risk of fire something you thought

4:58

about very much living in the

5:00

Palisades? You know, we were on

5:02

a hill, it's true, but there

5:04

was never a fire there. And

5:07

when they would say you'd need

5:09

to evacuate, it would never be

5:11

because of our area, really. It

5:13

would be, you know, the next

5:15

city would be Malibu. State Farm

5:17

is so we never felt a

5:20

personal risk. State Farm is the

5:22

biggest home in auto insurer in

5:24

the country with more than 90

5:26

million customers. Its California subsidiary has

5:28

the largest market share of any

5:30

insurer in the state covering a

5:33

million home policies. And part of

5:35

why State Farm is so dominant

5:37

is that it has expanded in

5:39

the state while other companies have

5:41

retreated. So other companies like all

5:43

state travelers were pulling back from

5:46

there. They were looking at very

5:48

rapidly rising inflation, they were looking

5:50

at much higher catastrophe risks, and

5:52

the insurers just looked at it

5:54

all around and said, this isn't

5:56

working for us. That's our colleague

5:59

Gene Eaglesham. But State Farm after

6:01

the pandemic... kept on selling in

6:03

these high-risk regions, and we talked

6:05

to lots of independent insurance agents,

6:08

rival agents, and they

6:10

all said they were incredibly

6:12

surprised to see that State

6:14

Farm would agree to ensure

6:17

very high-risk properties. In other words,

6:19

inexplicably, State Farm was

6:21

there. Like a good neighbor, State

6:24

Farm is there. But it turned

6:26

out State Farm couldn't afford

6:28

to be there. Through her reporting,

6:30

Jean found that while the

6:32

company was aggressively selling policies

6:35

at low rates, internally red

6:37

flags were waving. The company was

6:39

taking on too much risk, and

6:41

they needed to dramatically raise their

6:43

rates, but they couldn't. In

6:45

California, insurance companies can only

6:48

increase rates with the approval

6:50

of state regulators. And certainly

6:53

in 2021, 2022, We found

6:55

State Farm's own internal indications

6:57

were that they should have been

6:59

asking for very big rate increases

7:01

to match the kind of risks that

7:04

they were adding up. So they should

7:06

have been asking for 20, 30 percent

7:08

or more, but they kept asking

7:10

for 6.9 percent. A 6.9 percent

7:12

rate increase was the most

7:14

that State Farm could ask

7:17

for without risking a public

7:19

hearing from the California insurance

7:21

regulators. So you had this old

7:23

system where State Farm, they're

7:25

increasing risks, they're putting very

7:28

low rate increases, and they're

7:30

taking a new business that's

7:32

really, effectively they're not charging

7:35

enough for. State Farm says that its

7:37

rate requests were made to match price

7:39

to risk. It added that over

7:42

the past decade in California,

7:44

the company has tried to

7:46

quote, responsibly limit overexposure in

7:48

high-risk areas. So... Why did State

7:51

Farm stay so aggressive in

7:53

California, knowing that it was

7:55

costing their subsidiary like that? It's

7:58

really not clear why they were so...

8:00

slow to turn around and stop

8:02

writing new business and pull

8:04

back. I mean, I think

8:06

the company itself would argue

8:08

that they're owned by policyholders,

8:10

not by public shareholders, and

8:12

so they would say we

8:15

like to stay in places

8:17

as long as we can.

8:19

So they would sort of

8:21

portray as a sign of

8:23

their loyalty, if you like,

8:25

to the market. Independent agents

8:27

said to us they don't

8:29

understand at all. what State

8:31

Farm was doing in those

8:33

years. In 2023 State Farm's

8:35

era of expansion came to

8:38

an end with a change

8:40

in leadership. The California subsidiary

8:42

got a new chief executive

8:44

Denise Hardin. She saw the

8:46

risk State Farm was exposed

8:48

to and decided it was

8:50

time to play hardball. Hardin

8:52

went to the California regulators

8:54

asking for a rate increase

8:56

of 28%. It's a shockingly

8:59

high level. in the context

9:01

of the California market. For

9:03

the biggest insurer in that

9:05

market to say we need

9:07

28% just showed how serious

9:09

things were. And then in

9:11

May 2023, State Farm pulled

9:13

back on new home insurance

9:15

policies. The move put more

9:17

pressure on regulators. One former

9:20

insurance commissioner that Gene spoke

9:22

to described the move as

9:24

quote, crossing the Rubicon. State

9:26

Farm just announced it is

9:28

stop selling new home and

9:30

business policies in our state.

9:32

The new policy went into

9:34

effect Saturday. The insurance company

9:36

cited wildfire risks and the

9:38

skyrocketing costs of construction. State

9:40

Farm's announcement was a blow

9:43

to California's insurance market. And

9:45

the regulators were faced with

9:47

a decision. They really had

9:49

to act. So in the

9:51

fall of that year, we

9:53

saw the regulator. essentially say

9:55

I'm going to give the

9:57

insurers pretty much everything on

9:59

their wish list. That wish

10:01

list included approving much bigger

10:04

rate increases for the state's

10:06

insurance companies. The regulators also

10:08

said that state farm could

10:10

raise their rates by 20

10:12

percent. But it still wasn't

10:14

enough for state farm. In

10:16

March 2024, they announced that

10:18

they would not be renewing

10:20

policies for 30,000 homeowners in

10:22

California. Their argument was, we

10:24

just have too much risk

10:27

on our books. We're still

10:29

making a loss on every

10:31

policy we sell. We have

10:33

to take action now. State

10:35

Farm's decision left customers scrambling.

10:37

Just months later, the fires

10:39

hit, and the risk that

10:41

State Farm had unloaded suddenly

10:43

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18:02

quote, the burden is on state farm

18:04

to show why this is needed now.

18:06

State farm has not met its burden.

18:08

State farm has been asked to

18:10

make its case at a meeting next

18:13

week. After the fires, Sandra and

18:15

her husband decided to accelerate

18:17

a plan to retire in

18:19

Hawaii. They'd plan to rent

18:21

out their palisades home. Now,

18:23

they're wondering what to do

18:25

with their burned out lot. You

18:27

know what I hope I never

18:29

go back. Oh, what is that?

18:31

Palaces, again, it's 38 years.

18:33

It's, it, that's, that's

18:35

home, I knew where

18:37

everything was. So many

18:39

things burned down, the

18:41

elementary schools burned down.

18:43

The high school is

18:45

non-functional. This, like, right

18:47

down the street, the

18:49

stores, you know, where

18:51

our kids would go. to

18:54

after school to buy French fries

18:56

and just hang out and be

18:58

bad because they were kids. And

19:00

it's like, it's not there anymore.

19:02

For Sandra, rebuilding her home

19:04

is out of the question.

19:06

One reason for this is

19:08

she isn't confident she'll get

19:10

insurance again. To me, it's

19:12

sort of like, it's a place

19:15

that won't exist anymore.

19:17

A whole town. I can't even

19:19

believe that, but it's a whole

19:21

town. You know, on a whole

19:23

lifestyle. That won't exist anymore.

19:26

That's all for

19:28

today Wednesday February

19:31

19th. The journal

19:34

is a co-production

19:36

of Spotify and

19:39

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19:41

Journal. Additional reporting

19:44

in this episode

19:46

from Susan Pulliam.

19:49

Thanks for listening.

19:51

See tomorrow.

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