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Excludes restaurants. Welcome down here,
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up there, out there, all
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around the world. Welcome to the
1:08
Late Show. I'm your host
1:10
Stephen Colbert and welcome. I'll
1:13
welcome you all to Donald
1:15
Trump's... Golden Age. Turns
1:17
out by golden he meant
1:19
golden shower, because really feels
1:21
like he's peeing on a
1:24
leg and telling us it's
1:26
liberated. It can be a
1:28
little lonely. It's a bit of
1:30
a lonely time for those Americans
1:32
who saw all this
1:34
malicious incompetent corrupt chaos
1:37
coming and voted, not
1:39
that again, please. Which
1:42
is why this weekend it
1:44
was inspiring to see hundreds
1:46
of thousands of Americans
1:48
turning out Hands-off protests
1:51
in more than 1,200
1:53
locations in all 50 states
1:55
in Sweet Home Chicago in
1:58
Washington DC in New York in
2:00
Los Angeles, California, in
2:02
Austin, Texas, and in
2:04
the birthplace of democracy,
2:06
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Although a
2:08
lot of those people
2:10
might be Eagles fans
2:12
still drunk from the
2:14
Super Bowl parade. We
2:16
don't know yet. The
2:18
polls were Greece. They
2:20
did grease the polls.
2:23
Spirits were high, and
2:25
the signs were great.
2:27
Let them eat Tesla's.
2:29
Detroit hates kid rock
2:31
and my personal favorite
2:33
I bite Nazis good
2:35
boy! Bight those Nazis
2:37
right in their their
2:39
testicles right there one
2:41
one thing folks are
2:43
mad about is is
2:45
Trump's tariffs which today
2:47
continued to shove your
2:49
401k down a flight
2:52
of stairs. It turns
2:54
out, in Trump's economy,
2:56
the only safe job
2:58
is guy who takes
3:00
photos of panic stock
3:02
brokers. And in the
3:04
last few days, we
3:06
got some classics. We
3:08
got Johnny Headin' hands.
3:10
An old-fashioned, God has
3:12
forsakenness. And this guy
3:14
who will be the
3:16
new face of the
3:18
$100 bill. Today,
3:21
they're going to be fine. Today,
3:23
the Tao stumbled another 350 points
3:26
down, on top of losing nearly
3:28
4,000 points in the last two
3:30
days of last week, when the
3:33
S&P also fell over 10% closing
3:35
out the market's worst week since
3:37
March of 2020, when the pandemic
3:40
ripped through the global economy. Now,
3:42
there is one silver lining. This
3:44
time, since there's no pandemic, we
3:46
can safely scream straight into each
3:49
other's faces. For
3:51
one, for one, what was
3:53
it, 10 a.m., something like
3:55
that. For one brief shining
3:57
moment this morning, things looked
3:59
up around 10 a.m. Right?
4:01
The market shot back into
4:03
positive territory. Thanks to a
4:05
tweet. Reporting the White House
4:07
economic advisor Kevin Hassett said
4:10
Trump was considering a 90-day
4:12
pause in tariffs, but the
4:14
tweet was not true, and
4:16
an hour later, the White
4:18
House issued a statement denying
4:20
it, and the markets lost
4:22
their gains and returned to
4:24
their continued drop. The up
4:26
and down continued all day
4:28
long. Trump won't be happy
4:30
until the Tao Jones looks
4:32
like his signature. All
4:43
this turmoil has really upset
4:45
the Wall Street bros. Even
4:47
the ones that back Trump,
4:49
they're describing his tariffs as
4:51
worse than expected, and reportedly
4:53
for many CEOs, this came
4:55
as a surprise. A surprise?
4:57
He's only been talking about
4:59
tariffs since the 1980s. In
5:01
the campaign, he said tariff
5:03
is the most beautiful word
5:05
in the English language. This
5:07
is like electing Snoop Dog,
5:09
and then saying, I didn't
5:11
know he was gonna smoke
5:13
weed every day. And what's
5:15
this, wait a second, and
5:17
he's, I don't, hold on,
5:20
hold on, and, and sipping
5:22
on gin and juice? In
5:24
this economy? The, uh, the,
5:26
uh, the, uh, the, the
5:28
big banky boys are freaking
5:30
out. J.P. Morgan sent a
5:32
memo to investors, last week,
5:34
titled, There will be blood.
5:36
I forget. Was that movie
5:38
you a romcom? I can't
5:40
remember. Do not worry, J.P.
5:42
Morgan always talks in 2007
5:44
film references. The memo continued,
5:46
when it comes to retirement
5:48
savings, this is no country
5:50
for old men. All our
5:52
money is gone, baby gone.
5:54
And to be blunt, this
5:56
is super bad. In conclusion,
5:58
Shrek 3. Sooo.
6:00
Wall Street clearly wants the
6:02
president to change his mind,
6:05
but he doesn't have one.
6:07
On Friday, Trump retweeted a
6:10
post. He retweeted a post
6:12
with the caption, Trump is
6:15
playing chess, while everyone else
6:17
is playing checkers. And that
6:20
post linked to a video
6:22
that claimed Trump is crashing
6:25
the stock market, but he's
6:27
doing it on purpose. That's
6:30
a weird thing to brag
6:32
about. Everyone's making fun of
6:34
me for pooping my pants,
6:37
but jokes on them, I
6:39
poop my pants on purpose.
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Well, everyone else is playing
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checkers. I'm pooping my pants.
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That's how you win. By
6:49
default, they get up and
6:52
they leave. JD, bring me
6:54
a wet wipe. On Air
6:57
Force One, on Air Force
6:59
One, Trump said, the market
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crashing is just what America
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needs. I don't want anything
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to go down, but sometimes
7:09
you have to take medicine
7:11
to fix something. Because that's
7:14
how medicine works. You take
7:16
it, and everyone dies. All
7:19
dead. Far from
7:21
pausing the tariffs this morning
7:23
Trump tripled down threatening an
7:25
extra 50% tariff on China
7:27
Which will raise the price
7:30
of everything we get from
7:32
China which I believe is
7:34
everything Trump did that because
7:36
on Friday China retaliated against
7:38
Trump's liberation day tariffs by
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slapping a 34% tariff on
7:43
US goods China if you
7:45
want a trade war a
7:47
trade war is what you'll
7:49
get the gloves are off
7:51
because you make the gloves
7:53
and we can't afford them
7:55
anymore. Trump responded, okay? Have
7:58
at you! That's
8:04
how you thought right? Trump
8:06
responded to China by posting
8:09
if China does not withdraw
8:11
its 34% increase above their
8:14
already Long-term trading abuses by
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tomorrow April 8 2025 United
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States will impose additional tariffs
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on China of 50% effective
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April 9th Then he ended
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thank you for your attention
8:29
to this matter That's that's
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that's that's an odd way
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to end a threat It's
8:36
like getting a letter from
8:39
kidnappers give us $50,000 and
8:41
unmarked bills or you'll never
8:44
see your husband again. Have
8:46
a great weekend Stay sweet
8:49
so So
8:58
why is Trump willing to
9:00
tank the global economy and
9:02
risk the wrath of American
9:05
voters? Well, as one White
9:07
House insider put it, he's
9:09
at the peak of just
9:12
not giving a F-k anymore.
9:14
Okay? Is he taking any
9:16
F-cause because I would happily
9:19
send him a steaming bucketful?
9:21
While the markets were plummeting
9:23
on Friday, Trump spent the
9:26
day at his golf course.
9:28
And the White House... The
9:30
White House released this actual
9:33
statement. The president won his
9:35
second round match-up of the
9:37
Senior Club Championship today in
9:40
Jupiter, Florida, and advances to
9:42
the championship round tomorrow. That
9:44
is an aggressively toned-deaf press
9:47
release. I'm sorry, Mrs. Jones,
9:49
I botched the operation and
9:51
your husband is dead, but
9:54
this morning I got the
9:56
wordling, too. Hazle. Luckily. Luckily
9:58
reporters were aboard Air Force
10:01
One. and they held the
10:03
president accountable with tough hard
10:05
hitting questions like this one.
10:08
Oh I know his brain
10:10
is broke. Oh I know
10:12
his brain is broke. Yeah.
10:14
Yeah. Trump's terrible, but he
10:17
couldn't tank the global economy
10:19
all by himself. One of
10:21
the tariff masterminds is White
10:24
House economic advisor and Mr.
10:26
Burns cosplayer. Peter Navarro. Now,
10:28
these tariffs are condemned by
10:31
most leading economists and most
10:33
trailing economists. But Navarro did
10:35
find one guy, an economist
10:38
named Ron Vera, who was
10:40
cited as an expert more
10:42
than a dozen times in
10:45
Peter Navarro's books. One problem
10:47
with Ron Vara. For more
10:49
we turn to our friend
10:52
Rachel Maddow. The problem is
10:54
Ron Vara doesn't exist. He
10:56
never has. The economics expert
10:59
that Peter Navarro has long
11:01
cited to explain why he's
11:03
so gung-ho on tariffs, this
11:06
person Ron Vara is a
11:08
made-up person. Who is Ron
11:10
Vero? Ron Vara is an
11:13
anagram of Navarro, which is
11:15
his last name. Now, I,
11:17
Stephen Colbert, think this is
11:20
incredibly dumb. But you know
11:22
who doesn't? Famed economist Treblock
11:24
Neplock Neppets. Yes.
11:27
Handsome, man. Good-looking, really good-looking
11:29
guy. Treblock fully supports Ron
11:32
Vero. Trump-toteys were working overtime
11:34
to polish these turds. Here's
11:37
Judge Janine. You know the
11:39
uncertainty in the in the
11:42
in the stock market it
11:44
isn't necessarily a negative It
11:46
can be an indication that
11:49
things are going to work
11:51
out. It's just that things
11:54
are they're uncertain right now
11:56
and you got a president
11:59
swinging for the fences. Yes,
12:01
he's swinging for the fences.
12:03
He missed and hit America
12:06
in the S&P 500, which
12:08
as any economist will tell
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12:13
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made history breaking the record for
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the longest individual speech on the
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center floor with his 25 hour
13:41
and five minute long speech. Please
13:43
welcome back to the late show
13:45
Senator Corey Booker. Well,
14:03
Senator, thanks for being here. I'm
14:06
really grateful that you could be
14:08
here, so we can talk through
14:10
the chaos that is being visited
14:13
on our country by our government
14:15
right now. Before we do that,
14:17
I just want to talk for
14:20
a second about your speech last
14:22
week. You're 25-hour and five-minute speech.
14:24
I know. It's
14:27
unlikely we'll go that long tonight.
14:29
Okay, but just in case I
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have another picture of water right
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here. We have we have some
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recallas. I love that. I love
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that. I love that. Most importantly
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all, here's the men's room for
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you. Anyway, just feel free. Yes.
14:44
I might put that right here.
14:46
Just have it. You can call
14:48
commercial breaks and just walk off.
14:50
So, um. At any point did
14:52
you start hallucinating. When you're up
14:54
there. My worries going into it
14:56
were frankly having to go to
14:58
the bathroom, so I did something
15:00
that's not smart, not advised, that
15:02
really ticked off my mom, which
15:04
was I started dehydrating myself about
15:06
24 hours beforehand, just not drinking.
15:08
So I was... Yeah, seriously, that's
15:10
how you got a kidney stone,
15:12
ma'am. I have... My mom reminded
15:14
me that I am a middle-aged...
15:16
a black guy that's two hundred
15:19
and too much pounds. And that
15:21
is not a smart thing. So
15:23
she wasn't sure how long I
15:25
would go. She just said, please
15:27
tap out when you feel it.
15:29
But my mom is a saying,
15:31
this is behind every successful child
15:33
is an astonished parent. So I
15:35
was happy, I was very happy
15:37
to astonish her that I could
15:39
go that long. Yeah. Well, one
15:41
of the, one of the nice
15:43
aspects of it. You know, you
15:45
were up there, you weren't talking
15:47
about you, you were talking about.
15:49
our nation with the challenges it
15:51
faces not just this challenges but
15:53
the challenges we always face and
15:55
the need to actually face them
15:57
in some realistic and collaborative way
15:59
but along the way of talking
16:01
about that you managed to wipe
16:04
out strong Thurman's 1957 record which
16:06
was shameful can you mind everybody
16:08
what what the previous record was
16:10
held and trying to stop yes
16:12
strong Thurman when he was actually
16:14
about my age was trying to
16:16
stop civil rights and trying to
16:18
stop the civil rights legislation while
16:20
legends were out there fighting for
16:22
it in the streets he was
16:24
trying to block the legislation and
16:26
I want to say that he
16:28
held that record for 68 years,
16:30
but in many ways he planted
16:32
a seed to just really demonstrate
16:34
that he was not successful. Black
16:36
Guy came along and broke that
16:38
record. That is a poetic, as
16:40
a poetic, denoument of that moment.
16:42
Yeah, but look, the reality is,
16:44
he was not successful. I may
16:46
have broke the speaking record, but
16:48
he wasn't successful in stopping civil
16:51
rights from happening because black people
16:53
and white people and Asian people,
16:55
Christian, Jewish, Muslim, all joined together
16:57
in this rainbow coalition that overcame
16:59
what he was doing. And that's
17:01
the secret. Change has never come
17:03
from Washington. It often comes despite
17:05
Washington and... And it comes to
17:07
Washington by American people who are
17:09
saying, I am not satisfied with
17:11
what's going on and I'm going
17:13
to join a larger movement because
17:15
it's a moral moment. They said
17:17
that in the civil rights movement
17:19
and the labor movement and the
17:21
LGBTQ movement, people who were from
17:23
varied backgrounds said, this is a
17:25
moral moment and I'm not going
17:27
to be a spectator to American
17:29
history. I'm going to join the
17:31
cause of making American history. You
17:43
quote John Lewis saying, you know, let's
17:45
make good trouble. You know, let's make
17:48
good trouble. You say the power of
17:50
the people isn't in the people in
17:52
power. In this democracy, the power of
17:54
people is greater than the people in
17:56
power. Why does it always have to
17:59
be the people? Don't we allow... to
18:01
collect representatives to go to Washington D.C.
18:03
So we don't have to think about
18:05
this all the time. Look, I will
18:08
tell you this, I serve with some
18:10
extraordinary human beings in Washington. People I
18:12
look up to, even, you know, you
18:14
take a Tammy Duckworth who lost her
18:16
legs in combat and is on the
18:19
floor. and fights for things and wins
18:21
battles that people don't know whether it's
18:23
for reproductive health or for our veterans
18:25
so there are good people fighting to
18:28
do good things but the history of
18:30
this country we have to understand we
18:32
are here not because of the people
18:34
in Washington I always say that we
18:36
didn't get the suffrage women's right to
18:39
vote because a bunch of men on
18:41
the Senate floor put their hands in
18:43
and said okay fellas let's give women
18:45
the right to the right to vote
18:48
ready break you know no it happened
18:50
because of somebody like Alice Paul a
18:52
young woman her 20s from New Jersey
18:54
actually did the first ever protest. in
18:56
front of the White House. And then
18:59
when they arrested her, and what they
19:01
do to often strong women, especially back
19:03
in those days, they put her in
19:05
a sane asylum, before Gandhi, she was
19:08
going on hunger strikes in prison. And
19:10
it was the First Amendment, the press
19:12
that told her story, shamed the country,
19:14
and the President of the United States,
19:16
who she was protesting, came out and
19:19
joined the suffrage movement. It has always
19:21
been the people of this nation during
19:23
the abolitionist movement. in the abolitionist movement
19:25
joining together to create the underground railroad,
19:28
liberating people, not waiting for Washington to
19:30
do it. And so that should teach
19:32
us right now. There are good people
19:34
in Washington, hard-working people on both sides
19:37
of the aisle that have done good
19:39
things, but real change, especially in the
19:41
moral moments in our country when the
19:43
character of our nation is in the
19:45
balance, like right now, it has always
19:48
been the change led by the people.
19:50
And that's why... In that speech, I
19:52
wanted to center the voices of Americans
19:54
and read as much as I could,
19:57
the letters we're getting, the demands we're
19:59
getting. people who are saying Corey Booker,
20:01
you're not doing enough, at which they
20:03
were right. Let's talk about your constituents.
20:05
You held a town hall. I know
20:08
that you went to one of the
20:10
hands-off rallies, at least one, and you
20:12
also held a town hall. What are
20:14
you hearing from your constituents? What are
20:17
they most want you and the other
20:19
people in Washington to do right now?
20:21
What's upsetting them the most? Well, we're
20:23
in a country right now where we
20:25
have a president that in the most
20:28
crass way is saying, hey, I'm gonna
20:30
cut all of this stuff in the
20:32
name of efficiency, which is really creating
20:34
more expense and more hardship. When you
20:37
cut somebody's health care or ability to
20:39
see a primary care physician, you actually
20:41
are pushing them to use the emergency
20:43
room as their primary care place, which
20:45
is the most expensive type of health
20:48
care, as opposed to preventative care. And
20:50
so what I'm hearing is as much
20:52
as you say that, hey, you stood
20:54
for 25 hours, you and I are
20:57
both sitting here knowing that somebody right
20:59
now is on their third shift at
21:01
the... at the diner because they can't
21:03
afford to pay rent unless they work
21:05
a full around the clock. Somebody's in
21:08
the hospital right now who is a
21:10
nurse's assistant changing bed pans and is
21:12
catching extra shifts. We have some police
21:14
officers who are standing, she's standing on
21:17
a third shift being held over. There
21:19
are Americans that stand every day, but
21:21
what they're angry about is that this
21:23
promise that we made. the very dream
21:25
of this country, that if I work
21:28
hard, if I play by the rules,
21:30
if I raise my family, we can
21:32
make it. And that ability to make
21:34
it is being undermined by this president
21:37
who's taking away retirement security, who's attacking
21:39
bedrock promises like Social Security or Medicaid.
21:41
And that to me, the voices of
21:43
these courageous folks, they're heartbreaking. And if
21:45
your heart's not broken, I would say,
21:48
if America hasn't broken your heart, you
21:50
don't love her enough. When you see
21:52
people like Joseph who came to my
21:54
town hall, who's on the autism spectrum,
21:57
who's got severe anxiety standing in front
21:59
of crowds, but we heard I was
22:01
coming out. out after this speech, he
22:03
wanted to come and his mother introduced
22:05
him and he read from this sheet
22:08
in his own handwriting, don't let them
22:10
take away my Medicaid. And if that
22:12
doesn't call upon your conscience, if it
22:14
doesn't call upon your heart to not
22:17
let this fear... that we all have
22:19
right now, that 80 million Americans could
22:21
lose their health care, because Donald Trump
22:23
has told Congress, cut $880 billion from
22:25
Medicaid, in order for me to give
22:28
bigger tax cuts to the wealthiest in
22:30
this country who don't need them. If
22:32
that doesn't motivate you, I question the
22:34
strength of your love, and I worry
22:37
about the poverty in our country, not
22:39
materially the poverty of empathy for your
22:41
neighbor. Well, let's talk about those complaints
22:43
that people have complaints that people have.
22:50
To give the devil more due
22:52
than he deserves, Donald Trump was
22:54
elected because people had these economic
22:57
fears already. People felt like they-
22:59
They felt like- They felt that
23:01
he could fix their problems. Now
23:03
he betrays that trust over and
23:05
over again by rewarding the richest
23:07
people and rewarding himself, frankly. But
23:09
when Joe Biden was elected, I
23:11
remember thinking, let's not go back
23:13
to a pre-Donnell Trump America, because
23:15
a pre-Donnell Trump America gave us
23:18
Donald Trump. What are the changes
23:20
that have to happen that we
23:22
don't find ourselves in a bind
23:24
where people... acting out of their
23:26
own self-interest, which so many people
23:28
have the right to do as
23:30
voters. They want to do what's
23:32
best for themselves and their family.
23:34
What needs to most change in
23:36
America so that a demagogue cannot
23:39
seize the reins of fear? Well,
23:41
first of all... understand that from
23:43
Father Conklin with his demagogic anti-Semitic,
23:45
he was not just the number
23:47
one radio station, the majority of
23:49
Americans listened to him, he was
23:51
a demagogue, McCarthyism, and that every
23:53
generation has seen demagoguery. I remember
23:55
sitting with a great historian John
23:58
Meacham, which he said, nothing that's
24:00
happening right. now is unprecedented. It's
24:02
all very precedent. So the fact
24:04
that demagoguery rises in our country
24:06
or other countries is not unique
24:08
and it tends to possibly happen.
24:10
Well here's what's unprecedented. Father Coughlin
24:12
and Joe McCarthy were not the
24:14
commander-in-chief or the president of the
24:16
United States with a Congress that
24:19
would not stand up to him
24:21
at all. Case in point. Donald
24:23
Trump is signing executive orders. A
24:25
lot of presidents use executive orders.
24:27
Never this many, never this fast.
24:29
And never eliminating things completely by
24:32
fiat. He says, Department of Education,
24:34
gone. I signed a piece of
24:36
paper. It's gone. Can he do
24:38
that? Or does Congress have to
24:40
agree? Well, let's speak to the
24:42
specific truth that you told. And this is
24:45
why it's such a moral moment. It's
24:47
because never before. in my
24:49
lifetime, or I think
24:51
in the last century
24:53
of America, have we
24:55
seen somebody to rise
24:57
to power, who this
25:00
callously, cruelly, and in
25:02
a craven manner disregards
25:04
our constitutional principles and
25:06
threatens the bedrock... needs of
25:09
many Americans, health care, retirement security, honoring
25:11
our veterans. So what you're saying is
25:13
absolutely true. And the call then at
25:16
this moment when you see someone like
25:18
him rise, it is now testing our
25:20
nation and our nation's constitutional principles more
25:23
than I ever imagined possible. But the
25:25
question cannot be what is he doing?
25:27
The question is, is what are we
25:29
going to do in response to that?
25:32
And so for me, I can sit
25:34
here, I always say it's a state
25:36
of sedentary agitation, where we're so upset
25:39
about what's going on, but we don't
25:41
ask ourselves what can we do. And
25:43
what I said on the floor in
25:46
the 25 hours, and it was a
25:48
healing process in many ways for myself,
25:50
to say very plainly, we have not
25:52
done enough. I have not done enough.
25:55
The Democratic Party. must accept responsibility not
25:57
for complicity but for contributing to the
25:59
pathway. to this kind of demagoguery, to
26:01
this kind of person being in the
26:04
White House. So we have to tell
26:06
that truth, but it still falls to
26:08
the question is, what are you going
26:11
to do? When this moment in history
26:13
came, where did you stand? And I
26:15
will say to you again, as you
26:18
said it already, the power of the
26:20
people is greater than the people in
26:22
power. And I know you're afraid, but
26:25
Fear is a necessary precondition to courage.
26:27
I know your anger, angry, and I'm
26:29
angry, but anger can either eat you
26:31
up inside or it can be fuel
26:34
for the fight. If anything, the history
26:36
tells us. If American history is anything,
26:38
it is a perpetual testimony to the
26:41
achievement of impossible things against impossible odds.
26:43
In my generation, this is what's exciting
26:45
to me. This is the last baby
26:48
boomer president. We're seeing the last baby
26:50
boomer leaders in Congress. This is a
26:52
generation that I call the civil rights
26:54
generation that has extraordinary accomplishments, but new
26:57
generations are rising. X, millennial, generation Z.
26:59
And it's our turn now, not just
27:01
to talk about what we're against or
27:04
who we're against. It's our time now
27:06
to redeem the American dream, to dream
27:08
this country new, to see the new
27:11
possibilities that our parents and our forefathers
27:13
couldn't imagine. We have the moment now
27:15
to shape this nation, and we cannot
27:18
lose. it, and we especially can't lose
27:20
it to a hate-filled demagogue that wants
27:22
to tear down our country. We need
27:24
to now rebuild it and reimagine it.
27:27
Your protest ended the same day Democrats
27:29
had a win in Wisconsin. where a
27:31
liberal judge won a Supreme Court race
27:34
that Elon Musk was pouring tens of
27:36
millions of dollars into. He lost there,
27:38
but he's been busy elsewhere. Doge's targeting
27:41
of Social Security has sent into what
27:43
has been described as a death spiral
27:45
and chaos. They slash USAID. It essentially
27:47
does not exist anymore. Thousands of employees
27:50
across the federal government have lost their
27:52
jobs, been put on leave. And I
27:54
just want to tell you how violative
27:57
of our values it should be. People
27:59
say USAID, less than 1% of our
28:01
budget, so less than one penny of
28:04
every dollar you send down, put scientists
28:06
right in the middle of fighting Ebola.
28:08
or fighting a treatment-resistant tuberculosis, or fighting
28:11
the bird flu. In a world now
28:13
that we now know that an infectious
28:15
disease anywhere is a threat to public
28:17
health everywhere. When the horrific earthquake happened
28:20
in Myanmar... We didn't have the resources
28:22
to respond because USAID wasn't there, and
28:24
the people that are filling the gap
28:27
don't share our values of democracy, freedom,
28:29
and justice. The Chinese stepped forward and
28:31
said, let us help you, let us
28:34
stand up. There is a global competition
28:36
going on, and I know we fundamentally
28:38
should be focused on the trashing of
28:40
our economy. Inflation is going up, people's
28:43
401 of cake accounts are going down.
28:45
But in this interconnected globe, those issues
28:47
matter, and I don't, and I've been
28:50
one of people defending USAID and don't
28:52
want to lose that, I sit down
28:54
with foreign leaders and I had a
28:57
European come to, European, a foreign minister,
28:59
I don't want to name the country,
29:01
but with a very thick accent, looked
29:03
at me and said, I can't say
29:06
all the English that he spoke, colorful,
29:08
colorful French or Greek or whatever it
29:10
was, but he basically looks at me
29:13
and quite literally says, what the is
29:15
going on with your country. We need
29:17
you. We need you. And you're retreating
29:20
from world leadership. You're retreating from being
29:22
the light of democracy that we need
29:24
you to be. I have friends in
29:27
New Zealand, and they said, this time,
29:29
we're mad at you. Last time, we're
29:31
mad at Trump. Yes. And I said,
29:33
oh, that's terrible. You guys are like
29:36
the country that likes us. And they
29:38
said, we're the country that loves you.
29:40
And we're mad at you this time.
29:43
And this is what King said. He
29:45
said, what we're ultimately going to have
29:47
to repent for is not the vitriolic
29:50
words and violent actions of the bad
29:52
people. but the appalling silence and inaction
29:54
of the good people. This is one
29:56
of those moments where we should be
29:59
looking at ourselves in the mirror and
30:01
saying, why didn't we have such a
30:03
low voter turnout? Why didn't we understand
30:06
what was at stake right now? Let's
30:08
talk about action and inaction and one
30:10
of the things that made so many
30:13
people mad at the Democratic leadership is
30:15
voting for the CR, which is not
30:17
a clean CR. that had a lot
30:20
of cuts in it, that seemed like
30:22
the only place where the Democrats could
30:24
exercise any leverage over what was going
30:26
on, the slash and burn going on
30:29
in Washington, and D.C. I had Senator
30:31
Schumer on last week to talk about
30:33
this, and I have great respect for
30:36
Senator Schumer, but I found his answers
30:38
less than nutritious. And I'm wondering why
30:40
you voted against it. Look, for me,
30:43
that was a catalytic point, and I
30:45
thought that if we took a stand
30:47
there, then we would not stand alone.
30:49
I think faith is one of these
30:52
things. That when you step out into
30:54
scary dark things, faith is knowing one
30:56
of two things is going to happen.
30:59
Either you're going to find solid ground
31:01
underneath you, or the universe will send
31:03
you people that will teach you how
31:06
to fly, that will soar with you.
31:08
When we started that 25-hour journey, we
31:10
had no idea how people were going
31:13
to react, but we knew we needed
31:15
to do something different and take a
31:17
risk. be with our side, it would
31:19
be a galvanizing moment. But we disagreed.
31:22
What we can't do now, and years
31:24
and years, a very good portion of
31:26
my life was defined by playing football.
31:29
And I used to know when we
31:31
were going to score on the other
31:33
team. And how did I know we
31:36
were going to score on the other
31:38
team, is when I started hearing people
31:40
in that huddle. argue amongst themselves, demean
31:42
or degrade them for missing a tackle
31:45
or making a bad play. This is
31:47
one of those moments where we're going
31:49
to have differences, but I'm telling you
31:52
if everybody in your coalition agrees with
31:54
everything that you believe in, your coalition
31:56
is not big enough. We can have
31:59
some room for mistakes. some room for
32:01
divisions, but when it comes to unifying
32:03
and the cause of our country, when
32:06
millions of Americans are literally on the
32:08
verge of losing their health care, when
32:10
seniors who have been saving for retirements
32:12
have seen their 401ks lose so much
32:15
money that they now realize they may
32:17
have to extend retirement for years, when
32:19
we have veterans. Perhaps the people that
32:22
deserve our deepest respect and appreciation, losing
32:24
their jobs, being fired more than any
32:26
president has fired veterans, and losing the
32:29
services that they deserve, this is a
32:31
time to say, okay, I may disagree
32:33
with you, I may disagree with what
32:35
you did, but right now, we're gonna
32:38
unify in this fight because we've got
32:40
bigger challenges before us. We've got to
32:42
go here, but I want to ask
32:45
one other question before we go. And
32:47
that is. The international, as we've said,
32:49
the international response has been, other than
32:52
Russia, it's been who want to build
32:54
a statue to Trump, they've said, on
32:56
the state media, it's been pretty appalled
32:59
across the board. Prime Minister, the new
33:01
Prime Minister of Canada, Mark Kearney, I
33:03
believe his name is Mark Kearney, he
33:05
gave a speech that was heartbreaking. but
33:08
resident. He said that at this moment,
33:10
when these tariffs go up, when Trump
33:12
makes, you know, allies of our enemies
33:15
and enemies of our allies, that the
33:17
United States abdicates its role of leadership
33:19
in the world. And he says that
33:22
is a tragedy, but we have to
33:24
face it. Can America walk back? In
33:26
your opinion, can America walk back from
33:28
the bridges? that this man is burning?
33:31
Should they trust us again? Should we
33:33
even be trusted with the launch codes
33:35
if this is the sort of person
33:38
that we elect? I formed my speech
33:40
around John Lewis who said the importance
33:42
of getting in good trouble and he
33:45
would tell you if... if he was
33:47
here and I believe he's in heaven,
33:49
that the change that he most made
33:51
perhaps in his life was before he
33:54
even got to Congress. It was because
33:56
he as a young man decided to
33:58
make good trouble. But when he did
34:01
get to Congress years later, he was
34:03
beat on the Edmund Pettis Bridge, he
34:05
was beat at Freedom Rides, he was
34:08
physically assaulted at... at sit-ins and he
34:10
said that a man, an elder man,
34:12
came with his grandchild and asked him
34:15
for his forgiveness. He admitted that he
34:17
was one of the people that beat
34:19
him and John Lewis forgave him because
34:21
he said everybody needs mercy, everybody deserves
34:24
a pathway to redemption. The soul of
34:26
our country right now I think needs
34:28
redemption and all of us have to
34:31
expand. our hearts. We've had very difficult
34:33
days, but the only way we get
34:35
from here to there is start to
34:38
embody and inhabit the best of our
34:40
virtues and values. I say this about
34:42
religion. Before you tell me about your
34:44
religion, first show it to me and
34:47
how you treat other people. Before you
34:49
tell me how much you love your
34:51
God, show it to me and how
34:54
much you love God's children. Before you
34:56
teach me about the passion you have
34:58
for your faith, show it to me
35:01
through the compassion you have for others.
35:03
That's religion. You and I are people
35:05
of faith. But there is a civic
35:08
gospel in this country that we need
35:10
more than ever. Do we have this
35:12
declaration of independence that we herald? But
35:14
the declaration of independence ends with this
35:17
remarkable statement that these imperfect geniuses put
35:19
down, which was a declaration of interdependence.
35:21
They said that we must mutually pledge,
35:24
pledge to each other, our lives, our
35:26
fortunes, and our sacred honor. Now more
35:28
than ever. the civic gospel of America.
35:31
Yes, Canada needs it, New Zealand needs
35:33
it, the world needs it. But it
35:35
will not be real anywhere until it's
35:37
real in the hearts of Americans. And
35:40
you cannot point fingers and ask other
35:42
people to live that spirit. You've got
35:44
to embody it. And I promise you
35:47
and I've learned. this in my
35:49
my own life. you
35:51
If you have the
35:54
courage, if even if
35:56
your legs shake,
35:58
if you have the
36:01
courage to speak
36:03
up, even if your
36:05
voice breaks, you
36:07
will be an inspiration to another, and
36:09
then another, and then another. and that
36:11
will begin to overwhelm all the darkness
36:13
in this world. Be, decide with conviction in
36:15
John Lewis, Be, that you'll be a
36:17
point of light, that you'll cause some
36:19
good trouble, and before you realize it,
36:21
you have redeemed the soul of a
36:23
weary nation. and before you thank you for being
36:26
here. Thank you. Thank you for your
36:28
of a weary you. Send
36:30
record everybody. Thank you
36:32
for listening to the Late you for listening to
36:34
the Late Show Pod Show with Stephen Just
36:36
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