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Now to that bombshell lawsuit against

1:23

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1:25

ballerina is claiming a male dancer

1:28

secretly took and shared intimate photos

1:30

of her. Yet the real story

1:32

isn't in the headlines. It's in

1:34

the voices of those who were

1:36

there, the dancers who lived it.

1:38

Balochine was incredibly sensitive person and

1:41

a religious person and a funny

1:43

person. Complicated. You see, this isn't

1:45

just a story about Ballet. It's

1:47

about devotion. I am deterred on grateful

1:49

for that man. I'm bishop. I remember

1:52

walking out of there and going, I'm going

1:54

to be up there. That's going to be

1:56

me. And the cost of surrendering yourself entirely

1:58

to something. It shows humanity. and it

2:00

wasn't there at that time. It's

2:02

about the people who graced that

2:04

famous stage. It was the fairy

2:07

tale, really. And what became of

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them. I knew that there was something

2:11

that I had done something

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really terrible. From Stack, this

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the P that comprises one tiny little

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corner of the Lucan Peach show. I'm joined

2:49

by Mr. Luki. How you doing? You've got

2:51

a lovely pledge shirt on. And as I

2:53

noted, when I was in the same room

2:55

as you, a few hours ago, some cargo

2:58

pants. Yeah, and you're not one little

3:00

corner of a Lucan Peach. You are

3:02

the big buttress. Striding behemoth.

3:04

Yeah. that infects everything and I just

3:06

kind of run around trying to keep

3:08

up with you mate. I'm doing well

3:10

thank you. I don't really know what

3:13

part of an engineering sort of bridge

3:15

or or I don't know awning or

3:17

creation a buttress is but I very

3:19

much enjoy saying the word buttress. Yeah

3:21

I also don't know what buttress is

3:23

I've had no cause to learn the

3:25

meaning of that word. I can't even

3:27

remember who buttress buttus guardi was. I

3:29

think he was something to do with

3:31

the UN I think. Right, yes, that

3:33

sounds about right. Was he the first

3:35

African UN guy? African born? I

3:37

can't remember. It doesn't matter. But

3:39

listen, if you listen to this

3:41

show for the first time and

3:43

you just popped into your recommended

3:45

or something, you thought, I'll give

3:48

this a go. This is basically

3:50

how it goes. Don't know what

3:52

we're going to say. Do it

3:54

for half an hour? Then come

3:56

with our lives. Yeah. Damn and

3:58

damn out of luck unfortunately. You

4:00

basically broke my internet last week with

4:02

your chat about your dad's used conduct.

4:04

Why are you bringing this up again?

4:06

Well I tell you why, because every

4:08

single person on the internet seems to

4:10

have wanted to bring up with me

4:12

again. Right. But I haven't had a

4:15

single message about it. Why you bring

4:17

it to me everyone? It's Pete's story,

4:19

it's not mine. I haven't brought up

4:21

a single... Are people too scared to

4:23

ask me directly about it? They've probably

4:25

got a lot of questions. Yeah a

4:27

lot of people... In fact I'll find

4:29

something here for you. I could live

4:31

for a thousand lifetimes and never have

4:34

admitted that. Right. Geezie Peeps man, the

4:36

FBI couldn't have waterboarded that information out

4:38

of me fair play to you Donning.

4:40

Glad I got the warning about the

4:42

story. I wasn't, I wasn't like... It's

4:44

no shame on me though is it?

4:46

I'm a victim of me, I got

4:48

my dad seeming on my mouth. I'm

4:50

the victim here. To be fair, someone

4:52

else, then the conversation then moved on

4:54

to someone else saying, Pete, you were

4:56

supposed to talk about your pistol today,

4:58

you promised you would. Right, yeah. But

5:00

you haven't actually got a pistol. I've

5:02

got a pistol. He's cohabiting with an

5:04

adult woman and has a daughter. So

5:06

I don't think a pistol would go

5:08

down that well, would it? I think

5:10

it would be indicative of some mental

5:12

decline. Peter's rolling back. Which I know

5:15

you are guilty of. Yeah, exactly. I

5:17

mean like a lot of people sort

5:19

of just buy toys from their youth.

5:21

Me creating a piss draw in the

5:23

shed, you know, a chest of drawers

5:25

I think might be a bit much.

5:27

Well, even if you told even if

5:29

it's the bottom draw and you told

5:31

your partner Yeah, yeah, I think anything

5:33

halfway there So I got what is

5:35

your least favorite clause put them in

5:37

the bottom draw because you know penis

5:39

height has to be considered I'll know

5:41

I think I think you've I think

5:43

you need to splash into the drug

5:45

piss draw the bottom yourself and then

5:47

the partner you have access to can

5:49

have all of the ones above Yeah,

5:51

like Scott free right can I'm affected

5:53

as I as I prove myself as

5:56

a piss as a piss administrator could

5:58

I move up the ranks a little

6:00

bit and have an eye level piss

6:02

draw if I wanted I just think

6:04

no I just think if you go

6:06

top draw for piss draw they all

6:08

become piss draw baby that kind of

6:10

quite poorly rendered like MDF with a

6:12

resident laminate is going to not hold

6:14

the liquid to the way that you

6:16

need it to for that to be

6:18

a successful project do you reckon sort

6:20

of people who like chippies who actually

6:22

create like some nice wooden creations. Do

6:24

you reckon they're absolutely offended the level

6:26

that people, you know, general level of

6:28

furniture that people have in their houses?

6:30

Because pretty much, there's not a single

6:32

bit of furniture in my house that

6:34

I would trust. to kind of buttress

6:37

or block a door in the event

6:39

of an attack of some kind. It's

6:41

not the main function, is it? It's

6:43

not the main function, but it is

6:45

very, like you say, very MDFE, very

6:47

chipboard, very shit. Yeah, I know what

6:49

you're saying, so if you look a

6:51

proper artisan and you go into a

6:53

place. to make something for someone and

6:55

you look at what they've got there

6:57

already and it's poor quality and you're

6:59

probably going to have a little judgment

7:01

about that. Do you think they also

7:03

want, do you reckon they want ownership

7:05

over, so for example if you got

7:07

a carpenter to make a beautiful cupboard

7:09

or say something that fits perfectly in

7:11

the alco, like a bespoke wardrobe, we

7:13

got those in our house. Do you

7:15

reckon that like they would then feel

7:18

like they naturally want some ownership ownership

7:20

about how you're going to use them?

7:22

Oh what? Oh what? I'm just saying

7:24

it, would it be disrespectful to use

7:26

a very nicely crafted carpentry, carpenters, carpenters,

7:28

Chester draws as a pistol? Well, I

7:30

mean if you sort of explain it,

7:32

if you explain it to them, I

7:34

just say it'll say look, this is

7:36

going to be the best pistol, anyone

7:38

has a piston who... I'm going to

7:40

take this seriously. This defines me now.

7:42

I give you my word. If I

7:44

wake up at 3am, there's not a

7:46

chance I'm going to the bathroom. Draw

7:48

a brother, that. Follow me dad's old

7:50

Johnny's. Brilliant. Just, just... What would be

7:52

that, say you've got a four, a

7:54

four chest of drawers, a four draw

7:56

tested chest of drawers, what's going to

7:59

be in the other two though, you

8:01

know what I mean? Oh, because you've

8:03

got two at the top, mini. Oh,

8:05

you got the mini ones, yeah, for

8:07

socks and pants. One, two, three, big.

8:09

I don't know. I've got like four,

8:11

I've got four, and the pants and

8:13

the socks, they very much mingle, contact

8:15

lenses, camera bits, little figurines, I've collected

8:17

over the sides, foreign money. So I'll

8:19

go pants and socks in the same

8:21

drawer, but it's sacrosanct. Nothing else goes

8:23

in there, right. And also, our Chester

8:25

draws in our bedroom is a beautiful

8:27

piece of furniture that my wife got

8:29

from a second hand shop. It's really

8:31

nice, that's genuinely really nice quality yet

8:33

really beautifully made, but it's too big

8:35

for the bedroom. And she insisted on

8:37

bringing it with her when she moved

8:40

here and that was one of her

8:42

kind of non-negotiable, so we just had

8:44

to... deal with it. Right, okay, yeah,

8:46

fair. But it's a lovely piece of

8:48

work. I've got a really, a really,

8:50

sort of, a really sort of, sort

8:52

of, do you know, that sort of,

8:54

those kind of pictures from the 1970s,

8:56

like the blue, Asian, blue-faced, Asian lady,

8:58

that was quite popular in, in working

9:00

class, kind of like, it was a

9:02

little bit. 70s, the handsome man holding

9:04

the baby, sort of, yeah, but it

9:06

was like a painting, I think, a

9:08

sort of a very rudimentary kind of

9:10

painted black bit of furniture that someone

9:12

had made in like Brighton or somewhere

9:14

and they'd stuck they'd basically just glued

9:16

these kind of like kitsch pictures to

9:18

the front of it and that's him

9:21

I can say that from here I

9:23

don't want that I think I should

9:25

get rid of that but it would

9:27

mean that I would have to remove

9:29

it from the house and somebody might

9:31

see that I was removing it from

9:33

my house and they might think that

9:35

my that I had some kind of

9:37

a like Japanese stuff Why don't you,

9:39

so is your house decorated then and

9:41

first... furniture furnished in a mismatch of

9:43

stuff that you've just accumulated over the

9:45

years. That's mainly the cabin that I've

9:47

kind of accumulated over the years. No,

9:49

I mean your house. You've not gone

9:51

right with moving to a new house.

9:53

So in this room we're going to

9:55

get all this new stuff. No, no.

9:57

It's all kind of integrated cupboards and

9:59

that are already there anyway, and a

10:02

sofa and a couple of tables. Sarah's

10:04

like interest and patience and patience for

10:06

staff. means that we will move on

10:08

from stuff quite quickly if you don't

10:10

know what I mean. I've already just

10:12

assembled it and then I've got a

10:14

few months before it's out the door

10:16

again. Oh really? Yeah, it's like she

10:18

likes to get new stuff because it's

10:20

exciting isn't it? Like you know if

10:22

you buy like a lovely bit of

10:24

furniture or furniture that you've you've coveteded

10:26

and it's in your house, it's sweet

10:28

enjoy every day. So I completely agree

10:30

with her. I'll completely agree with that

10:32

I am but... My particular taste in

10:34

furniture of certain types is like quite

10:36

nicely made like thick proper wood stuff.

10:38

Right. There's a gone Etsy who I

10:40

asked to make stuff in dimensions for

10:43

me. It's not that expensive. Right. Yeah.

10:45

But to say the two bookcases in

10:47

the living room, the TV table, my

10:49

desk, why two other things. They're actually

10:51

made and the wardrobes in the bedroom

10:53

for example. They're actually made for that

10:55

for those spaces. Yeah. I mean, and

10:57

I was actually thinking about this the

10:59

other day when we thought about, oh,

11:01

we're going to move house. If we

11:03

do move house, are we going to

11:05

take him with us? Look, I've got

11:07

a nail gun, I've got a mic

11:09

to saw, I've got loads of timber,

11:11

I've got loads of timber in my

11:13

toilet, out of here in the cabin,

11:15

so why don't you let me, I've

11:17

got the old gate that I pulled

11:19

off the wall, that's a good bit

11:22

of outside, like treated, like treated, like

11:24

that. I just, you know, it's the

11:26

opposite problem to what a lot of

11:28

people would have. If a lot of

11:30

people got you to do that and

11:32

they didn't like it, they would be

11:34

lumped with... that for the rest of

11:36

their lives and they wouldn't say anything.

11:38

If you did something because I didn't

11:40

like it, I would immediately tell you.

11:42

Yeah. And it would cause a rift.

11:44

I think, I... You take it really

11:46

badly and then you'd start doubling down

11:48

and really going for it and trying

11:50

to make it, it's what people want

11:52

actually nowadays. They actually like things that

11:54

fall apart and give people spells. You

11:56

would take it so badly, you would

11:58

treat it as a challenge, you'd go

12:00

away on your own. Yeah. And it

12:03

would have microphones in it. Find out

12:05

what I think. The exception would be,

12:07

I would be fine with you like

12:09

building some kind of computer equipment for

12:11

me. Right, okay. I go up to

12:13

and including that. Up to including an

12:15

Intel. An Intel, but not a Intel.

12:17

You're my little Pentium processor. My little

12:19

Pentium processor. I'm a little salary on

12:21

that subject. Here's a question for you.

12:23

So when we decorated our house we

12:25

got some decorators in to do it.

12:27

Yeah. And I was kind of feeling

12:29

like they might have been... silently judging

12:31

the color choices right a wallpaper in

12:33

the paint yeah you reckon they do

12:35

what you reckon they're just so fed

12:37

up of it now they just get

12:39

on with it I don't think about

12:41

it I imagine they probably just want

12:44

people who've got a a distinct and

12:46

definite sort of idea about how it's

12:48

all going to go. And also realism

12:50

about what paint looks like before it's

12:52

on the wall, if you know what

12:54

I mean, before it dries. Yeah, but

12:56

do you think, but they're, do you

12:58

think they're secretly painting it going, oh

13:00

I wouldn't have put this colour in

13:02

here? Would they though? No, I don't

13:04

think so. What you slopped on the

13:06

wall, because at the end of the

13:08

day, as long as you're paying them.

13:10

they'll do whatever paint wise as I

13:12

suppose. Yeah, absolutely fine. I just think

13:14

I would have an opinion on it

13:16

though. Yeah, I know you would, but

13:18

you, that's why you're not a good

13:20

painter. Which renders me incapable of doing

13:22

it myself. And rendering as well. There's

13:25

a lot of, down the side of

13:27

my house, a lot of pointing that

13:29

needs doing. I wasn't aware what pointing

13:31

is, but it just seems to be

13:33

where brick meets cement. Brick means grout.

13:35

Repointing, right? Repointing, right? So, um, why

13:37

is it called repointing? I don't know,

13:39

you're going to do that yourself? Well,

13:41

I've got a ladder, and I've got

13:43

a, a trowel, so what else do

13:45

you need exactly? I don't think you

13:47

need a sort of, the problem is,

13:49

like, I think that people don't respect

13:51

the botch enough, you know, people don't

13:53

respect some, just having just having a

13:55

go, just having a having a go.

13:57

And, just having a having a having

13:59

a having a having a having a

14:01

having a having a having a having

14:03

a having a having a having a

14:06

having a having a having a having

14:08

a having a having a having a

14:10

having a going, and, and, and, just

14:12

having a, just having a having a

14:14

having a, just having a, just having

14:16

a, just having a, just having a,

14:18

just having a, just having a, just

14:20

having a, just having a, just, just,

14:22

just, it'll be protect it from the

14:24

no protect it from the sea air

14:26

blowing off the gusting off the off

14:28

the Thames has to be said do

14:30

you have to do you live in

14:32

an area where you have to repaint

14:34

your house all the time because of

14:36

the sea air because I know a

14:38

lot of people do now where I'm

14:40

from yeah yeah things do seem to

14:42

just fall off and flake off which

14:44

is a bit annoying I'm looking up

14:47

repointing and apparently the pointing is the

14:49

name for the external part of the

14:51

mortar joint in masonry reconstruction yeah So

14:53

re-pointing I guess means making it better.

14:55

But apparently you can, there's something called

14:57

tuck pointing as well. Right, what's that?

14:59

Using two different colours of mortar in

15:01

the mortar joints of the brickwork. Right.

15:03

With one colour matching the bricks themselves

15:05

and one, and basically to give an

15:07

impression that it's very fine work. Oh

15:09

there are a few, oh so like

15:11

what, what two sides of the grout

15:13

sort of meeting in the middle? Sort

15:15

of like a... So it looks like

15:17

an a orio. Maybe you could try

15:19

tuck pointing. I could try tuck a

15:21

point in, couldn't I? I just don't

15:23

think, your attitude there that you've just

15:25

displayed earlier is exactly why you shouldn't

15:28

be doing it. You've basically said, anything

15:30

I do will be better than nothing.

15:32

That's not true. That's not true. I

15:34

get up there. I get up there.

15:36

I don't even know why you need

15:38

it. Is it just to protect the

15:40

mortar that's between the bricks? I'll and

15:42

went, yeah, that seems doable. That seems,

15:44

stuff like that seems a lot easier

15:46

than dealing with a car. Like this,

15:48

you look into an engine bay and

15:50

you go, nah, I'm absent. he lost

15:52

here. There's a guy, did I just

15:54

speak about this on the shore? There's

15:56

a man, well he's like a young

15:58

lad basically from London and he films

16:00

himself on YouTube just taking engines, like

16:02

removing engines from cars on people's, in

16:04

front of people's houses. Not on a

16:06

driveway, not in a garage, he literally

16:09

will replace engines in the street in

16:11

London. Completely illegal, you shouldn't be doing

16:13

it. You mentioned this before. Did I

16:15

mention this on the show? You said

16:17

you had fastenated about it, right, I

16:19

think you did. You definitely told me

16:21

about it. I'm just saying that seems

16:23

more complicated than getting a bit of

16:25

grout on the wall. I'm sorry if

16:27

any builders are listening. With pointing, are

16:29

they not... I mean I might be

16:31

completely wrong here, it's not my area

16:33

of expertise at all. Right. Is it

16:35

like they're chiseling one brick, old brick

16:37

out and putting a new brick in

16:39

one by one? No, I thought, oh

16:41

no, I don't think so. I thought

16:43

he was just making sure that, just

16:45

just slopping a bit of, slopping a

16:47

bit of grout in between the bricks,

16:50

no, just to protect the bricks. No,

16:52

that's not, I don't think so, because

16:54

it's going to be on color, isn't

16:56

it? No, I don't think so, you're

16:58

replacing the bricks. Well I'm not doing

17:00

that then, that's complicated like an engine

17:02

out job on someone's driveway for crying

17:04

out loud. I've dropped you before and

17:06

after fighting it in the WhatsApp, have

17:08

a look, that's what, that's what it

17:10

is apparently. Okay. I have no idea

17:12

how they do it, but it looks

17:14

like, it's not just new grouting. Yeah,

17:16

that, yeah, that looks, yeah, that looks

17:18

like they've, how they done that then.

17:20

Could they not just have cleaned the,

17:22

clean the, clean the wall a bit.

17:24

I tell you know, it's a bit.

17:26

It's a good job, you didn't go

17:28

and go and go and go and

17:31

go on, you, you, you, you, you,

17:33

you, you, you, you, you, you, you,

17:35

you, you, you, you, you, you, you,

17:37

you, you, you, you, you, you, you,

17:39

you, you, you, you, you, you, you,

17:41

you, you, you, you, you, you Good

17:43

job we've had this conversation. It doesn't

17:45

look like you have. It's good job

17:47

we've had this conversation. Yeah, I tell

17:49

you what. So yeah. I'm so far,

17:51

I'm so far away from red or

17:53

anything that kind of stuff, you know.

17:55

Well, clear, it turns out I am

17:57

too. Yeah. But I will build, I

17:59

will build a little, a little, a

18:01

little, a little wall if you want.

18:03

Doesn't stop you, does it? And stop

18:05

me. Peter, what's been floating, what's been

18:07

floating, what? for someone who hates ankle

18:09

injuries, not the place to go because

18:12

there's just... I think that, you know,

18:14

towns and cities that are quite hilly

18:16

and mountainous, they need to give up

18:18

on the cobbles. because they're just with

18:20

the signs and the movement and and

18:22

when it gets wet it just give

18:24

up on the cop let's actually have

18:26

some lovely cement just I think when

18:28

they were doing it that was the

18:30

way it was done they haven't replaced

18:32

it that's a very good point actually

18:34

yeah it's a very good point actually

18:36

yeah it's just need to give up

18:38

on the cobbles lads to be honest

18:40

it was the indie club like there

18:42

was no indie clubs there was no

18:44

yeah there an Irish bar nightlife wasn't

18:46

really really really really really really really

18:48

the thing really it's backfired it's backfired

18:50

backfired She had a bit of food

18:53

really. A lot of, had a lot

18:55

of agot, a lot of, I had

18:57

a lot of, I mean every, every

18:59

society has a version of the sausage

19:01

rolled up there. Like every part of

19:03

the world. Everyone's, everyone's cuisine revolves around

19:05

cheese on toast. Pretty much, but everyone's

19:07

got like meat in a, in a,

19:09

in a bit of pastry. Yeah, to

19:11

varying degrees. Yeah, I would say pound

19:13

for pound for pound. our sort of

19:15

meat and pastry dishes, aka the common

19:17

garden sausage roll, just way more, way

19:19

better value one would suggest, because you

19:21

just get more meat, which is the

19:23

most valuable thing. Yeah, to me, these

19:25

kind of snacks, I annoy myself because

19:27

I much prefer the really posh artisan

19:29

kind of... gentrified version of them right

19:31

okay like you know like the really

19:34

big thick sausage rolls you get from

19:36

like gales baker it right but do

19:38

you not need with stuff like that

19:40

do you not sort of feel like

19:42

you dipping it in tomato sauce is

19:44

sort of going against yeah what should

19:46

be or something no that's good mmm

19:48

it's good I like it but so

19:50

you basically went to Kosovo it's eight

19:52

sausage rolls and came home again yeah

19:54

but what do you do when you

19:56

work well I'd a walk around it

19:58

saw the Bill Clinton statue and which

20:00

was hilar hilar hilariously over the road

20:02

from a lady's clothes shop so there

20:04

was loads of sexy mannequins outside which

20:06

I thought was quite amusing and he

20:08

was looking down their tops. And people

20:10

across the country we love. Clinton and

20:12

Albright and all those guys because of

20:15

the independence. Yeah, there's also a Tony

20:17

Blair road as well. Yeah, which is

20:19

up on the hill. Yeah, it was

20:21

good. I guess what I'm trying to

20:23

get to on behalf of our listeners

20:25

is what's the motivation for you going

20:27

in the first place? What did you

20:29

intend to do? Did you fulfill those

20:31

intentions? Just ticking off those, you guys,

20:33

ticking off Yugoslavia, as best I can.

20:35

Yeah man Craig yeah he was in

20:37

North Macedonia Alex came yeah yeah I

20:39

debuted that t-shirt did a lot of

20:41

t-shirt best bullying of Alex but yeah

20:43

a good time to explain to the

20:45

listeners what a t-shirt was it was

20:47

every time I go away with Alex

20:49

because he didn't want to be a

20:51

meme I try and make a little

20:53

t-shirt comprising of you know comprising of

20:56

basically his face somewhere on the on

20:58

the t-shirt and this time around it

21:00

was the blend Windows Millennium Millennium Edition

21:02

logo edition logo with Alex in the

21:04

background just eating a bit a bit

21:06

of a bit of dinner. and he

21:08

was down well I thought I thought

21:10

he went back because it wasn't it

21:12

wasn't anything vicious really wasn't vicious we

21:14

just enjoyed it we just enjoyed it

21:16

we just enjoy ourselves and he didn't

21:18

get to say it all that much

21:20

because the bloody freezing it was like

21:22

minus minus five but very sunny as

21:24

well did I have any we couldn't

21:26

have the shower on for very long

21:28

because somebody kept switching off the boiler

21:30

accidentally when they thought was a light

21:32

switch and then at the end literally

21:35

as we're leaving and Alex pointed out

21:37

this light switch that people were using

21:39

to turn on what they thought was

21:41

the light, but they're actually turning off

21:43

the boiler. And he could have pointed

21:45

that out two days ago, but just

21:47

as we were leaving, he basically just

21:49

explained precisely why we hadn't had a

21:51

shower for about two days. So a

21:53

good time was had by all and

21:55

a very overzealous Airbnbman who gave us

21:57

our, it was, there's four people staying

21:59

and it was 125 quid. for the

22:01

weekend. It was, it wasn't, it wasn't

22:03

a huge amount of money, but it

22:05

was, it was, it was very, it

22:07

was literally very low rent. But, but

22:09

he kept on ringing me every time.

22:11

I chose it. Every time, every day

22:13

he would sort of ring up and

22:16

go, is everything all right? I was

22:18

going, stop ringing us, it's fine. I'll

22:20

tell you if I'm something wrong. I'm

22:22

just trying to think of a world

22:24

I could live in where we go

22:26

away and I could live in where

22:28

we go away and I'm letting you

22:30

choose the accommodation, and I'm letting you

22:32

choose the accommodation, like some kind of

22:34

like wacky bit of tech in it

22:36

that you would love to have a

22:38

little play with. There's no beds, but

22:40

it's got a 1970s TV unit in

22:42

it. Well the more the the closer

22:44

you get to Eastern Europe the more

22:46

chance you are finding a 1950s gigantic

22:48

radio like sort of ham radio sort

22:50

of set up. And to be fair

22:52

I would like that. Yeah yeah. But

22:54

not at the behest of a comfortable

22:57

stay. No, who's pretty... Did you get

22:59

pissed? What's the local liquor? You got

23:01

pissed? Yeah, just got a couple of

23:03

beers. There's a lot of... I don't

23:05

know the sort of bars we sort

23:07

of... It's a Muslim country, but it's

23:09

not a dry country. Not a dry

23:11

country, no. Yeah, everyone's absolutely lovely. The

23:13

level of English is about, I think,

23:15

the highest I've ever been in a

23:17

country outside of England. Like, there's not

23:19

a single person... Hardin Heartlaport, right? Right.

23:21

Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, high... When I

23:23

went, I was telling Sarah about the

23:25

man who gave me a tie, who

23:27

fitted a tie, couldn't give me a

23:29

tie, I would have fitted a tie

23:31

on my car in Hartlepool, who had

23:33

the most Hartlepool accent ever, and I

23:35

was like, Jesus, if I was ever,

23:38

if I ever had such a strong

23:40

accent, I'd be surprised, but I've certainly

23:42

lost it, because he literally went, he

23:44

said, I'm going to have to order

23:46

that in because you've got a weird

23:48

fucking car, you like mate. And like,

23:50

fine, I do have a weird fucking

23:52

car like mate. But yeah, it was,

23:54

I was like, God, did this guy's

23:56

got a kind of one to record

23:58

him? He's got such a... strong heartly

24:00

pull action. It's almost imperceivably English. I

24:02

was with a friend of mine over

24:04

the weekend from the US and he's

24:06

over here for a master's program and

24:08

it's like an international master's program so

24:10

there's people from all over the world

24:12

on it like 30 people saying they're

24:14

all from different parts of the world

24:16

and he said that you know despite

24:19

the fact that a large percentage of

24:21

the cohort are you speaking English as

24:23

a second language? the person who's finding

24:25

it most hard to be understood as

24:27

the Glaswegian guy. My friend is America

24:29

and clever. He's doing a master's at

24:31

a good university and he's got a

24:33

good job. He's obviously from the US.

24:35

He's like, I cannot understand. My friend's

24:37

from Iowa and he's like, I've just

24:39

never experienced that type of English before.

24:41

But he can't even get on the

24:43

right. I remember the thing that always

24:45

blew my mind. I remember the thing

24:47

that always blew my mind. I got

24:49

a good mate is from Glasgow. His

24:51

accent suffered over the years. But when

24:53

he first moved down to Portsmouth, he

24:55

was posted down there. I am. It's

24:57

a hell of a journey. Fucking word

25:00

he was saying. My family. My son

25:02

of the family of Scott. I'm used

25:04

to the accent. I just couldn't get

25:06

it. I remember the thing that always

25:08

blew my mind is that he always

25:10

used to say, instead of pardon or.

25:12

What, or excuse me, he would say,

25:14

what are you fucking saying to me?

25:16

Which is basically, what are you fucking

25:18

saying to me? It's really far. It's

25:20

a little bit in your face, isn't

25:22

it? I suppose, yeah. It's full on.

25:24

He's a lovely fellow though. Yeah, he's

25:26

a lovely fellow though. Yeah, he's a

25:28

lovely fellow, he's a lovely fellow. He's

25:30

a lovely fellow, well you're funny, Peter,

25:32

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of illegal fat jobs on the internet

28:00

and I want everyone to buy them

28:02

off me. Oh yeah, what are they?

28:04

It's a new, it's like Ozempec, but

28:07

it does make your hands hurt. It's,

28:09

it's, you lose absolutely shit loads of

28:11

weight but oh you're just screaming because

28:13

your hands hurt all the time. And

28:15

why did you put that? For a

28:18

laugh? Just want to see what's... Aren't

28:20

you like five nine and about... 10

28:22

stone. Well I'm glad that you have

28:24

not only reduced my weight by about

28:26

a stone and a half, you've also

28:29

given me an extra inch as well,

28:31

which we could always use with, use

28:33

with, you could all use. That's what

28:35

this show is, I haven't been giving

28:37

you an extra in. Exactly, yeah. It's

28:40

getting me excited. So you're 5-8 and

28:42

11 and a half stone, that's not

28:44

fat is it? Uh, yeah. Yeah, it's

28:46

getting there, mate. It's getting there. Getting

28:48

to once. What's your record for the

28:51

main cause of that? It's getting to,

28:53

uh, the fine, um, sausage rosts. The

28:55

fine cost of them, sausage rosts. One

28:57

would suggest, yeah. So you're going to

28:59

bang a lot of that, are you?

29:02

Yeah, but yeah, but yeah, just, just,

29:04

just, okay. Oh, I thought you had,

29:06

no. Okay. What? Who would buy fat

29:08

jabs off me? Pete's got some zempicking.

29:10

Do you want some? I thought you

29:12

might use them for your own personal

29:15

use. I'm just obsessed with like the

29:17

very idea of them because like, fine,

29:19

they work. But like, you know, like

29:21

when people lose weight and it's a

29:23

real achievement for them. You know, they

29:26

go into some kind of, you know,

29:28

diet and they work out and stuff.

29:30

yeah but like I think it's pretty

29:32

extreme though like you literally you never

29:34

need to eat you just feel full

29:37

all of the time I don't think

29:39

that's that I don't think it's that

29:41

bad I think I think the more

29:43

the mainstream ones I think they they

29:45

what they do is they they simulate

29:48

or they they basically add or give

29:50

you literally a certain chemical or hormone

29:52

that your body isn't that good at

29:54

producing itself right So it does give

29:56

you that sensation, but it's not like,

29:59

you don't feel like you always, you

30:01

can never eat. It's not like that.

30:03

No, no, no, you always want to

30:05

eat, but then when you're eating, I

30:07

think it closes the, which is, you

30:10

know, it's a fantastic thing. But I

30:12

just think that that, the achievement that

30:14

people are kind of, you know, when

30:16

people lose weight, people are going to

30:18

go. You've been taking them fat jumps?

30:21

You've been taking those Mozambique things of

30:23

your jigs? But I think, but I

30:25

mean, I know what you're saying, but

30:27

I think, so, I mean, there's no

30:29

one's business, is it? Who cares? Yeah,

30:32

I suppose so. Yeah. But I think

30:34

that Mountjaro, which is the one that

30:36

you can get here, right, privately. Is

30:38

that any good? It's kind of like

30:40

a zepetotide in it, which is essentially,

30:43

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

30:45

like, like, like, like, like, Because I

30:47

was read, coincidentally a while back I

30:49

was reading about this and I was

30:51

reading the thing that surprised me, chiefly

30:54

because I'd never really thought of it

30:56

this way before, but medically speaking now

30:58

I think, maybe partly because it's such

31:00

a widespread problem, like I think medical

31:02

professionals are now kind of, they now

31:05

kind of treat more bit obesity as

31:07

like an illness really. Right, okay. It's

31:09

not seen as like a lifestyle. choice

31:11

in that way. It's not really, I

31:13

mean obviously medical professional isn't that judgment

31:16

anyway, but it's not, it's not seen

31:18

as anything other than like a medical

31:20

issue. So essentially your body is supposed

31:22

to produce X amount of this hormonal

31:24

chemical or whatever to regulate your hunger

31:27

and you're just not doing it. And

31:29

that's a massive reason why a lot

31:31

of people are overweight. So if you

31:33

could find a way... to simulate that

31:35

or to give it to people if

31:38

they need it and then not getting

31:40

it that's when you see these amazing

31:42

results because I think I think after

31:44

that as far as I understand it

31:46

all the behavior all the behaviors kind

31:49

of fall into line behind it right

31:51

I think a lot of it is

31:53

behavioral based but rooted in that lack

31:55

of a chemical or a hormone or

31:57

whatever I mean I'm not medically qualified

32:00

so I'm probably talking shit in terms

32:02

of something interesting but that's the basics

32:04

the basic kind of principle and also

32:06

like I saw a post online the

32:08

other day on Instagram of a woman

32:11

who had lost a huge amount of

32:13

weight and she looked she looked fantastic

32:15

in the comments someone had said oh

32:17

you know as then picks a hell

32:19

of a drug isn't it loll or

32:22

whatever and loads of people underneath it's

32:24

actually quite heartening loads of people are

32:26

going what do you fucking care yeah

32:28

so what's it got to do with

32:30

you you know you people who like

32:33

fat shame other people because they try

32:35

and dress it up as like concerns

32:37

about the health service like you should

32:39

be fucking pleased he you know he

32:41

content out on the internet and the

32:44

amount of people who will feel very

32:46

comfortable sort of drive by sort of

32:48

commenting on you know YouTube and stuff

32:50

sort of saying just just work out

32:52

people are obsessed with the fucking gym

32:55

people are on masculinity it's a decline

32:57

of masculinity isn't it's a way to

32:59

try and reclaim masculinity is it I

33:01

mean yeah I think I think I

33:03

think men a lot of men use

33:06

the gym as a way to reclaim

33:08

their masculinity because they're not able to

33:10

do it in other ways yeah Well,

33:12

but you'd think that the way that

33:14

men dress it in gyms, that's probably

33:17

not how men of the 40s that

33:19

these men are clearly trying to emulate,

33:21

would dress. A lot of lycra. A

33:23

lot of bright colour of likera. And

33:25

I think back in the day, it's

33:28

more honest, isn't it? Eat a load

33:30

of eggs, grow a beard, and wear

33:32

a vest. If you're going to be

33:34

working out, wear a vest. None of

33:36

this, you know, under-arm stuff. You want

33:39

to wear a vest for cried outlet.

33:41

When you look at this beard I've

33:43

got at the moment, do you think

33:45

that is a reclamation of masculinity right

33:47

there? I think so, but it's that

33:50

kind of like... weird kind of Roman

33:52

statue stuff where probably... The penis is

33:54

really small. It's really small. Doesn't he

33:56

look muscular? Probably has a small boy,

33:58

a little bit too close to. All

34:01

that good stuff from back in the

34:03

day. I've taken quite a lot of

34:05

the lifestyle choices of the Roman Empire

34:07

and then tried to implant them in

34:09

my daily life. Small boys around me,

34:12

a tiny penis. Yeah. about how the

34:14

world actually works because of the time

34:16

I've been born into. I could do

34:18

it. I could do a massive kind

34:20

of gallery of statues that look like

34:23

you. There's a lot of like... Greco

34:25

kind of statues that his that his

34:27

that his kind of I'm wearing a

34:29

t-shirt that my dad gave me you

34:31

probably can't really because it's backwards where

34:34

you are but it says 30 years

34:36

is it 30 years in the gilling

34:38

and all I got was this lousy

34:40

t-shirt yeah my dad bought me yeah

34:42

my dad my dad decided to get

34:45

me a promotional t-shirt for the public

34:47

he until very recently frequented and he

34:49

I think he thinks I'm six foot

34:51

three. Whenever he's bought me anything. You

34:53

probably get bigger in his mind. I

34:55

loom large in his mind. Why is

34:58

he buying me extra large t-shirts? What's

35:00

that about? Yeah. It's almost a bit

35:02

like he's giving you a free promotional

35:04

teacher. It's like when Curtin buys Kerry

35:06

screwfits catalog for her birthday. Right, okay.

35:09

It's obviously just a screw screw screw

35:11

screw for you get for free in

35:13

the shop. He's not paid for that.

35:15

You're not seeing this country. I don't,

35:17

I don't, I don't, I think I

35:20

saw a couple of episodes. It's very

35:22

good, but it's just one of those

35:24

things that, yeah. It's right up there

35:26

for me. It's one of the best

35:28

British comedies. I have to sort of,

35:31

I just always think, like nowadays, I

35:33

have to watch, I can't really watch

35:35

anything alone, you know what I mean?

35:37

So like the decision has to be

35:39

made. For his both to watch some.

35:42

I suppose. So it has to tick

35:44

all the boxes for both of us,

35:46

I think. But for me, I'll have

35:48

a show on the background when I'm

35:50

doing stuff. I'll have a show on

35:53

when I'm cooking. The wife I have

35:55

access to will go to bed fairly

35:57

early because obviously we've got a young

35:59

boy or so. But can you sort

36:01

of, can you watch like narrative stuff

36:04

in the background on your headphones or

36:06

whatever? Because I just, I just, it's

36:08

stuff I've seen before, right? We don't!

36:10

So fancy. Well, my little telly is

36:12

on my piss draw. and that's in

36:15

your pistol. In my pistol and it's

36:17

absolutely fine. Yeah, I can believe it.

36:19

Peter, let's wrap up and get out

36:21

here. Strange sure. It's been a whistle

36:23

stop tour, isn't it? It's been a

36:26

whistle stop tour, isn't it? It's been

36:28

a whistle stop tour, stopping in history

36:30

or county. Right, we'll be back on

36:32

Thursday, if you've tried a zempick, let

36:34

us know what it's like. I'm fascinated

36:37

by the whole process to be on.

36:39

Can you can you, can you actually

36:41

get a zempique here or is, or

36:43

is, or is, or is, or is,

36:45

or is, or is a zempe, or

36:48

is, or is, or is, or is,

36:50

or is, or is, or is, or

36:52

is, or is, or is, or is,

36:54

or is, or is, or is, is,

36:56

is, is, is, is, is, is, is,

36:59

is, is, is, is, is, is, is,

37:01

Look, enough bunchy, enough bunch you can

37:03

get, whatever you want, no? You can

37:05

get it flown in, can't you? Flown

37:07

in. I mean, what kind of world

37:10

are you living in, Dorset? Or posted?

37:12

Like your friend. This is like that

37:14

Larry King interview with the Garden Duck

37:16

Tales. I told Sarah about that today,

37:18

out of nowhere. Isn't that weird that

37:21

we both mentioned it? What's a luxury

37:23

that you love, private, private play. Larry,

37:25

I'm on DuckTails. All right then, we'll

37:27

be back on Thursday, if you'd like

37:29

to get introduced to the Shore. Hello,

37:32

at beachshore.com is the way to do

37:34

it. We'll be looking inside ourselves and

37:36

out your batteries on Thursday. So, yeah,

37:38

we'll see you then. Explored ourselves and

37:40

Asia. Exactly. The

38:02

Luke and Pete show is a

38:04

stack production and part of the

38:06

ACAST creator network. Ballet demands absolute

38:09

sacrifice. Fancers push the limits of

38:11

the human mind and body in

38:13

the relentless pursuit of perfection. I'm

38:16

Nikki Anderson and my childhood love

38:18

for Ballet has become a lifelong

38:20

fascination. And that fascination has always

38:23

drawn me back to one place.

38:25

The New York City Ballet. New

38:27

York City Ballet. New York City

38:30

Ballet. Its sparkling legacy was shaped

38:32

by the genius of its founder.

38:34

The so-called father of American Ballet,

38:37

George Balanchine. But behind the beauty

38:39

lies a more complicated truth. Throughout

38:41

its 76-year history, the New York

38:44

City Ballet has faced allegations of

38:46

misuse of power. a major lawsuit

38:48

and an investigation into sexual harassment,

38:51

physical and verbal abuse by a

38:53

ballet master and chief. Now to

38:55

that bombshell lawsuit against the New

38:58

York City Ballet, a ballerina is

39:00

claiming a male dancer secretly took

39:02

and shared intimate photos of her.

39:05

Yet the real story isn't in

39:07

the headlines. It's in the voices

39:09

of those who were there, the

39:12

dancers who lived it. Balachim was

39:14

incredibly sensitive person and a religious

39:16

person and a funny person. Complicated.

39:19

Complicated. You see, this isn't just

39:21

a story about ballet. It's about

39:23

devotion. I am deterred and grateful

39:26

for that man. I'm vision. I

39:28

remember walking out of there and

39:30

going, I'm going to be up

39:33

there. That's going to be me.

39:35

And the cost of surrendering yourself

39:37

entirely to something. It shows humanity,

39:40

and it wasn't there at that

39:42

time. It's about the people who

39:45

graced that famous stage. It was

39:47

a fairy tale, really. And what

39:49

became of them. I knew that

39:52

there was something... that

39:54

I had done something really terrible. From stock, this

39:56

is season three of... legacy, Dancing with Shadows. You

39:58

can listen to the can listen

40:00

to the first three episodes

40:02

right now, search Shadows with

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Shadows and hit subscribe

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to make sure you don't

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