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lying here. Let's

1:02

do this. Welcome back to the

1:04

Melanie Avalon BioHacking Podcast. Oh my

1:07

goodness friends, today's episode is one

1:09

I have been so eagerly waiting

1:11

to release because I learned so

1:13

much about therapeutic seed oils in

1:15

this episode. I've personally been trying

1:17

them and I am loving them.

1:19

Like I talk about in the

1:21

episode, I was originally a little

1:24

bit skeptical about this because we

1:26

hear so much about the problems

1:28

with seed oils. So I was

1:30

thrilled to learn more about the

1:32

actual potential benefits of them and

1:34

how we should go about consuming them.

1:36

Ian Clark is such an incredible human at

1:38

activation products. I love Ian so much. I

1:41

had the honor of being on his show.

1:43

Now he's on mine and I got to

1:45

meet him in real life when I hosted

1:47

at the BioHacker Self Premier in Vegas, which

1:50

was so, so, so so so cool. and

1:52

you will learn all the things about all

1:54

the seed oils. We're talking black human, coriander,

1:56

amaranth, black sesame, the one I've been using

1:59

now every single... Night and I'm loving,

2:01

which is milk thistle oil and

2:03

so much more. We talk about

2:05

the controversy and confusion surrounding supplementing

2:07

with iodine. I personally had a

2:09

lot of questions about that because

2:11

I experienced something crazy and negative

2:13

with iodine in the past. We

2:15

talk about why that may be. We

2:17

talk about a favorite supplement of

2:19

you guys, which is magnesium, and

2:21

specifically the role of transdermal magnesium.

2:24

We talk about something which may

2:26

seem a little crazy and weird

2:28

at first sight, which is healing

2:30

with intentional injury. We take a

2:32

diversion into ancient civilizations and so

2:34

much more. Also, per Ian's recommendation,

2:36

I did immediately order his solarist

2:39

plant extract product to use on

2:41

a rash I've had on my

2:43

neck, and it went away. I

2:45

am sold. If you'd like to

2:47

try any activation products for yourself,

2:49

I cannot recommend it enough. And

2:52

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2:54

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2:56

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3:01

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3:04

milk vessel oil, especially if you

3:06

struggle with your liver enzymes like

3:08

I often do. The solarist, like

3:11

I said, completely got rid of

3:13

my rash. Blackcuman oil is their

3:15

most popular product, so you might

3:17

want to try that. And if you're

3:20

overwhelmed by all these different seed oil

3:22

options, have no fear, they actually have

3:24

a five seed blend so that you

3:27

can get the benefits of a lot

3:29

of them all in one bottle. Again,

3:31

go to Melanieavylon.com/activation and use the code

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3:36

show notes for today's episode will be

3:38

at Melanieavylon.com/good seed oils. Those show notes

3:41

will have a full transcript, so definitely

3:43

check that out. There will be two

3:45

episode giveaways for this episode. One will

3:48

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3:54

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4:01

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4:04

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4:06

right, I think that's all the things.

4:08

As a brief reminder, you

4:10

can get 20% off site-wide

4:12

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4:14

to Melanieavylon.com/activation and use the

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4:18

now, without further ado, please

4:20

enjoy this fabulous conversation with

4:22

Ian Clark. Hi friends, welcome

4:25

back to the show. I

4:27

am so incredibly excited about

4:29

the conversation I am about

4:31

to have. I've been looking

4:33

forward to it for quite

4:35

a long time now and

4:37

the backstory on today's conversation.

4:39

So I was introduced to

4:41

the fabulous Ian Clark actually

4:43

through an employee of Dave

4:45

Asbury and I went on

4:47

his show. a few months ago now and

4:49

that was a like a really such an

4:51

honor to go on that show and we

4:54

had an incredible conversation and Ian asked amazing

4:56

questions and I just I still reflect really

4:58

fondly on that so I'll actually put a

5:00

link to that in the show note so

5:03

people can check it out in any case

5:05

so we had that interview and then

5:07

we got to meet in person at the

5:09

BioHac yourself premiere at A4M so that was

5:12

exciting. Ian by the way did you like

5:14

what did you think of that event? Well,

5:16

it was very interesting. It

5:18

had a lot of different aspects

5:21

to it, from everything from commercial

5:23

aspect to deep level, real

5:25

entrepreneurial adventurers, you know,

5:27

who are into high-level wellness and

5:29

just coming out with some really,

5:31

really interesting concepts. And it was

5:34

a great networking event. I was

5:36

a little disappointed they didn't play

5:38

the actual film there, which is

5:40

what we thought was going to

5:42

happen. I heard that from a lot

5:44

of people they thought it was going to be

5:46

the actual film. I remember like literally the day

5:48

of because I was hosting on the red carpet

5:51

for it so I was there all day and

5:53

with the producers and everything and they didn't even

5:55

know like that morning they didn't even know if

5:57

it was going to come out that day or on

5:59

Christmas. So yeah, it was a lot. It

6:01

was a lot. Wait, were you in the

6:03

film? Yes. Oh my goodness, I wish you

6:06

had been in my station, my

6:08

red carpet station. I could have

6:10

interviewed you there. Yeah, it would

6:12

have been much better. But either

6:14

way, I got to see you

6:16

afterwards. And like you said, there

6:18

were so many people there. Yeah,

6:20

so that was really fun. But

6:22

yeah, so today's conversation, I am

6:24

so excited friends. So Ian is

6:26

the founder of an incredible brand

6:28

called Activation Products. And what I

6:31

love about this brand is he

6:33

makes so many products that we're

6:35

going to talk about in the

6:37

health and wellness sphere that nobody

6:39

else is making. And definitely not. to

6:41

the extent of the quality that he

6:43

is doing with these. There are so

6:45

many of them and I have so

6:47

many questions about a lot of them

6:49

because there's a lot of education on

6:52

the website. One of the big topics

6:54

of it, he does make a lot of

6:56

seed oil products and actually, so this

6:58

is a true story. Anne, when you

7:00

first or your people or whoever, when

7:02

I got the the email about your

7:04

company and what you do, I was

7:07

so intrigued by what you do and

7:09

everything, and I'm embarrassed to say. hesitant

7:11

about the seed oil concept because I was

7:13

coming from this idea that I think is

7:15

very pervasive in this health world that when

7:18

we think seed oils we think like omega

7:20

six is and then we think processed oils

7:22

and then we think processed oils and we

7:24

think oh we shouldn't be taking oils from

7:26

seeds because that's not natural so I knew

7:29

there was therapeutic benefits but I actually has

7:31

some hesitations so I'm really excited to dive

7:33

into all of that because reading about all

7:35

of these apparently there are a lot

7:37

of health benefits that I'm missing out

7:39

on. you have so many other things

7:41

as well like iodine related stuff that

7:43

I want to talk about in magnesium

7:46

and then this activator thing where you

7:48

like hate yourself that I want to

7:50

hear about. Yeah and then on top of

7:52

that just getting to know you even if

7:54

briefly you know through your podcast and the

7:56

meaning of person has just been so lovely.

7:59

So thank you. much for being here.

8:01

I have so many questions for you.

8:03

Well, yeah, thank you. We're taking the

8:05

time and appreciate the work you're doing

8:08

to bring these important aspects to health

8:10

and human health, high level wellness to

8:12

people. It's a big challenge and it's

8:15

a mission you're on, which is really,

8:17

I'm really grateful to be a part

8:19

of that. as are you, I send

8:22

all of that right back to you.

8:24

And actually, so we talked about this

8:26

a little bit when I was on

8:29

your show. Can you tell listeners a

8:31

little bit about your personal story because

8:33

you had your own really intense health

8:36

challenges yourself? So what happened with that

8:38

in your history? Oh yeah, it goes

8:40

back about 21 years now, and I

8:43

was 46 years old at the time,

8:45

and was challenged with very significant. life-threatening

8:47

health issues like a big tumor in

8:50

my perineum, which is in between the

8:52

legs and you know visible and noticeable

8:54

in the human body. There's a tumor

8:57

that was you know growing and making

8:59

that area very swollen and I had

9:01

heart disease as well as I had

9:04

a liver problem that I didn't know

9:06

at the time that that turned out

9:08

about two years later. These were very

9:11

life-threatening and I had gone to the

9:13

medical. institutions because that's all I knew

9:15

to do at the time. And my

9:17

oldest brother was a medical doctor for

9:20

30 years. So I was consulting with

9:22

him as well as talking to specialists

9:24

and GPs in Toronto. And the thing

9:27

that was shocking to me was that

9:29

in 2004, I was being offered the

9:31

same remedy treatments as my uncles were

9:34

offered in 1978. Both of my mom's

9:36

brothers. They passed away in 1978 two

9:38

days apart, both of cancer, and they

9:41

were diagnosed within 12 months, they were

9:43

gone. And they followed the exact instructions

9:45

and protocols of the medical institutions. They

9:48

went through all of the different procedures

9:50

and the same. barbaric procedures they were

9:52

offered in 1978 was exactly the same

9:55

as being offered to me in 2004.

9:57

And so when I talked to my

9:59

brother about it, I said, you know,

10:02

there's got to be better things now,

10:04

right? It can't be like the dark

10:06

ages. And he said, what are you

10:09

talking about? These are the only things

10:11

that are available. And what do you

10:13

think you're going to do? Otherwise. I

10:16

said, well, there's got to be some

10:18

natural ways of approaching this. Nothing but

10:20

snake oil salesman out there. Nothing is

10:23

double blind, placebo controlled, randomized studies on

10:25

any of that stuff that's so-called natural.

10:27

And he also told me that in

10:30

his clinic, so at that time he

10:32

had been 23 years in his practice,

10:34

he had 11 doctors working for him

10:37

in his clinic. So he saw thousands

10:39

of people go through there. And he

10:41

told me that it's total genetic predisposition

10:44

that you're handed a hand of cards

10:46

in life. and you got a deal

10:48

with him and you know it just

10:51

so happened that I took after my

10:53

my mom's younger brother my uncle Don

10:55

and I looked like him and he

10:58

said you're just like uncle Don and

11:00

this is what happened to him you

11:02

know there's nothing you can do I

11:04

said really he goes yeah he said

11:07

I've seen people party their face off

11:09

and eat over the dumpster and live

11:11

till 94 and then another guy is

11:14

you know juicing and eating organic and

11:16

dying at 36 he says it's just

11:18

the you just got a deal with

11:21

it and you don't if you try

11:23

to venture out you'll die much faster

11:25

and you've got to pay attention you

11:28

know and I had about a 36

11:30

month window if I did everything they

11:32

said you know and then sometimes they

11:35

might give you five years but I

11:37

was young at 46 I thought I

11:39

was middle-aged you know that's another big

11:42

lie that we can talk about that's

11:44

not middle-aged at all and I just

11:46

and we had just we're raising seven

11:49

children my youngest daughter was Mangos child

11:51

was my daughter Hannah. She was only

11:53

six years old at the time. It

11:56

was like, are you kidding? I'm supposed

11:58

to give in and give up and

12:00

give this over to doctors? It didn't

12:03

make sense. And I've been asking doctors

12:05

who I was seeing, you know, why

12:07

do I have what I have? Where

12:10

did this come from? And they go,

12:12

I don't know. You just have it

12:14

and this is the only thing that

12:17

you can do to get rid of

12:19

it. You got to cut it all

12:21

out. And it turned me right off.

12:24

comply with what they were telling me

12:26

to do. And I woke up one

12:28

morning in the middle of all this

12:31

chaos, and I had this gut instinct

12:33

that there were people on the surf

12:35

somewhere who had the highest level of

12:38

knowledge in natural healing. They were somewhere

12:40

on the earth. I didn't know who

12:42

they were, where they were, or how

12:45

to find them, but I just knew

12:47

they had to exist. And that brought

12:49

hope. I thought, well, how do I

12:51

find them? Well, you can't find them

12:54

because... There is like a needle in

12:56

a haystack. So I verbally out loud

12:58

made a request and I said if

13:01

I would if I would be led

13:03

to these people because I know I

13:05

can't find them but if I could

13:08

be led to them and if I

13:10

could have eyes to see them when

13:12

I meet them and also You know

13:15

get access I will do whatever it

13:17

takes if I whatever I'm required to

13:19

do I'll do it and just proceed

13:22

from there and so that was the

13:24

beginning of the journey And nothing happened

13:26

overnight at all. Nothing happened quickly. It

13:29

was a very slow motion. But what

13:31

I told everyone, I said, if I

13:33

have 36 months to live, that doesn't

13:36

mean I'm going to be dead in

13:38

36 months. That means that I'm going

13:40

to need to use that 36 months

13:43

to get five years or get to

13:45

five years and you get 15 years.

13:47

And that's how it went. I just

13:50

started to meet enough people soon enough

13:52

in the natural healing space to learn

13:54

why I had and how to get

13:57

rid of it. and that took seven

13:59

years. So I'm here today 21 years.

14:01

later and I'm healthier than I've ever

14:04

been in my entire life. And every

14:06

day I get a little bit healthier

14:08

in every category, which is the joy

14:11

of what we're going to share today.

14:13

That is such an incredible story. I

14:15

do not realize you had seven children

14:18

either. That's a big family. Oh my

14:20

goodness. Do you remember? I know you

14:22

said it didn't happen overnight and there

14:25

were a lot of people, but do

14:27

you remember the first moment of meeting

14:29

somebody that had an effect on you

14:32

after you made that verbal proclamation? Yes,

14:34

yeah, that was in December of 2006.

14:36

Oh, no, no, no, that was January

14:38

2006. December was another major date. January

14:41

of 2006, I had been, you know,

14:43

studying on Dr. Google to try to

14:45

find out stuff, and I found out

14:48

about hemp protein, that you need protein.

14:50

And I had stopped eating meat at

14:52

that time because I was told that

14:55

all the meat was very contaminated and

14:57

had hormones and all these different things

14:59

that were bad for me. So I

15:02

had become a vegetarian at that time.

15:04

And it was a vegetarian eating protein.

15:06

So I went to a store called

15:09

Whole Foods that I'd never heard of

15:11

before. And that was in Toronto. And

15:13

it was as soon as they opened.

15:16

I was in the store. And when

15:18

I went in there with my oldest

15:20

son to find the hemp protein, which

15:23

we did, there was a gentleman down

15:25

the aisle, a distance, who looked like

15:27

he was setting something up, but I

15:30

wasn't really paying attention to him. And...

15:32

We got to him protein and we

15:34

were turning to go to the front

15:37

of the store and check out. And

15:39

he came walking up behind us and

15:41

he said, excuse me, sir. And I

15:44

turned around and looked at him and

15:46

I thought maybe I dropped my keys

15:48

or something. And he said, you know,

15:51

I was trying to get your attention,

15:53

but you were not paying attention to

15:55

me. And I have some things that

15:58

I would like to show to you

16:00

if you're interested. I had my little

16:02

booth back here. So I said, sure,

16:05

let's go back. Let's go back. And

16:07

he stood there for half an hour.

16:09

And he explained to me all the

16:12

things that he had in his table.

16:14

from New Chapter at the time and

16:16

Synergy, and how they made all these

16:19

special nutritional products that were really good

16:21

for human health. And as he was

16:23

telling me this, I asked my son

16:25

to go grab a cart and come

16:28

back and reloaded up a whole bunch

16:30

of stuff that he instructed me to

16:32

get. And the thing I noticed about

16:35

him is he had perfect skin, very

16:37

bright eyes. His eyes were like perfectly

16:39

white and the color was really brilliant.

16:42

And he was very intelligent, he was

16:44

very calm, he wasn't hyped at all.

16:46

And it was fascinating. I was like,

16:49

wow, this guy is really healthy. And

16:51

I'd like to learn more from what

16:53

he's just telling me now. So when

16:56

he was done telling me about the

16:58

products, and we got him in the

17:00

cart, I asked him, I said, well,

17:03

how come you're so healthy? Is it

17:05

because of these products? He said, well,

17:07

the products are part of it. He

17:10

said, more is my lifestyle is my

17:12

lifestyle. I said, okay, what's that? And

17:14

he said, well, I only eat raw

17:17

food, I don't eat any cooked food.

17:19

And I was like, really, how does

17:21

that work? And he goes, well, I've

17:24

spent half an hour speaking to you

17:26

already, and I do have to finish

17:28

the conversation, but let's go to the

17:31

front of the store. So he took

17:33

me to the front of the store

17:35

and he, in front of the cashier,

17:38

there was a rack with magazines that

17:40

were called Vitality. and has a whole

17:42

bunch of health information and different things

17:45

that they advertise in there. And so

17:47

he opened it up to a page

17:49

and he showed me the total health

17:52

show was coming up in March, three

17:54

months from then. He said, you got

17:56

to go to this show and there's

17:59

a guy there who teaches about raw

18:01

food, vegan, if you want to learn,

18:03

because it was so foreign, like, what

18:05

do you mean you don't cook food,

18:08

right? And his name was David Wolf.

18:10

And he said, you go and you

18:12

go to a seminar, he's going to

18:15

have a seminar there, you go listen

18:17

to him. So I thought, okay. So

18:19

that was the first step. And when

18:22

they showed up. When I went to

18:24

the event and his team showed up

18:26

and David spoke, it was very eye-opening

18:29

and he was talking about superfoods and

18:31

all these different supplements you can take

18:33

that are beneficial for just feeling great

18:36

and how to get your body tuned

18:38

in and detoxed. And so that was

18:40

the beginning. And so I listened to

18:43

that and literally became a raw food

18:45

vegan overnight and followed along and did

18:47

all that stuff and did the superfoods

18:50

and... That was the beginning of the

18:52

journey. Did you stay a raw food

18:54

vegan? And if so, and when you

18:57

went overnight, because you had gone into

18:59

Whole Foods with a focus on protein,

19:01

did you focus on being a high

19:04

protein raw food vegan? Well, that was

19:06

a part of it. I didn't really

19:08

focus on that too much, because as

19:11

soon as you go into that raw

19:13

food vegan world, which I did for

19:15

four and a half years, I definitely

19:18

don't do that now. And there's a

19:20

bunch of reasons for that. But I...

19:22

What it did is it introduced me

19:25

to a world of super clean eating,

19:27

becoming very aware of organic, becoming aware

19:29

of soil that things are grown in.

19:32

And my body lost 90 pounds in

19:34

the next six, seven months. And so

19:36

I was quite overweight. And so that

19:39

was a big change, but that hammered

19:41

my liver. And I turned kind of

19:43

all yellow. and ended up in a

19:46

situation where I had to deal with,

19:48

that was when my liver issue showed

19:50

up. It was so bad that the

19:52

person tested me, the technician was testing

19:55

my liver on a special machine, he

19:57

was actually testing my whole body. And

19:59

he told me, he says, I've never

20:02

seen numbers this bad, you need to

20:04

go to the hospital immediately. Like don't

20:06

even go get groceries, just go straight

20:09

to emergency. He said, I don't even

20:11

know how you're standing here. And that

20:13

was already in 2007 in 2007, so.

20:16

I'd spent a whole year juicing and

20:18

drinking wheat grass juice and some flowers

20:20

produce, and eating all these raw foods

20:23

and superfoods. And so I was quite

20:25

shocked that I had this problem. So

20:27

I did focus in on liver health

20:30

for about a year, and it took

20:32

until 2009 for my liver to be

20:34

in the normal medical range. So I

20:37

did deal with it. Tumor was still

20:39

there. It had shrunk down quite a

20:41

bit from the size that had grown

20:44

a lot over that time. I had

20:46

just a little bit. too much information

20:48

but I did have a third testicle

20:51

in my scrotum that's how much the

20:53

tumor grew into that area and it

20:55

went into the rectum because that's you

20:58

know just the way that they go

21:00

and then it it did shrink down

21:02

in size in 2009 and then in

21:05

2010 I found about found out about

21:07

this substance called silver dye hydrogen citrate

21:09

but it's not sold in the market

21:12

for consumption at all. It's a very

21:14

high-end cleanser for commercial kitchens. and surfaces

21:16

and it's called hard surface. But the

21:19

company that manufacturers said is there's no

21:21

toxicity and it's something you can consume

21:23

and it will go in and remove

21:26

all of the infections out of your

21:28

whole body. And they told me to

21:30

take the little three ounce bottle they

21:33

gave me that was light protected and

21:35

spray seven sprays in my mouth that

21:37

night. I didn't know it was going

21:39

to relate to my tumor, but I

21:42

did spray that night. When I woke

21:44

up in the morning to have a

21:46

shower, the area where the tumor was

21:49

was very puffy and swollen. And I

21:51

thought, well, that's got to be candid.

21:53

It was. And every night I sprayed

21:56

seven sprays in my mouth. And every

21:58

morning I woke up, it was even

22:00

bigger and bigger and bigger until it

22:03

was half the size of a football.

22:05

Literally, I had to wear loose jeans

22:07

and wattle around for that last week

22:10

of the two-week period of, I took

22:12

the stuff for two weeks. And then

22:14

on day 15 when I woke up

22:17

that morning to have a shower, it

22:19

had shrunk right back down to its

22:21

original. tumor size, the hard tumor. And

22:24

I thought that was weird. So I

22:26

kept going. I was only going to

22:28

do it 14 days, but I kept

22:31

on going. And nothing happened after that.

22:33

And then it took a year and

22:35

my body dissolved the entire tumor out

22:38

of my body. It was completely gone

22:40

by 2011. And that was, you know,

22:42

to me, miraculous. I was like, wow,

22:45

that was like, what was that? And

22:47

it's been gone ever since. Whoa, what

22:49

did you say it was that cleaner?

22:52

silver dihydrogen citrate now the company who

22:54

makes it would never want that to

22:56

be published but I have told a

22:59

lot of people It's $25 for a

23:01

gallon of it and you only need

23:03

just a few ounces You don't even

23:06

need a few ounces. It's like probably

23:08

I used a whole maybe an ounce

23:10

and a half in that because I

23:13

did it for four weeks and it

23:15

and then I when it was nothing

23:17

else happened. I just stopped using it.

23:20

It just tastes like lemon juice It's

23:22

very interesting. It's a technology where they

23:24

take a silver ion that's picosides that's

23:26

much smaller than nano and it's attached

23:29

to a citric acid molecule. And what

23:31

happens is any pathogenic stuff in your

23:33

body will consume the citric acid as

23:36

a candy. And inside that is the

23:38

silver ion that tears the DNA of

23:40

that microbe apart. And it eliminates it.

23:43

So if you spray it on a

23:45

surface, for example, in your kitchen, unlike

23:47

an anti bacterial spray which is very

23:50

commonly used. within 15 minutes the bacteria

23:52

is back. This stuff keeps the bacteria

23:54

on the surface gone for 72 hours.

23:57

So it's a rather remarkable thing, but

23:59

it's called hard surface cleaner from, and

24:01

the company's name is pure bioscience. If

24:04

anybody calls them up and says if

24:06

they could use it for internally, they

24:08

won't even sell it to them. I

24:11

bet not. Have you thought about making

24:13

an equivalent product? I have thought about

24:15

that, but I looked into FDA regulations

24:18

and they won't allow it. If you're

24:20

caught selling that, they will come and

24:22

stop you and give you a fine.

24:25

It's just not all. Yeah, wow. That's

24:27

crazy. What was the first product you

24:29

actually made? And was it also in

24:32

your health journey? Yes, this was the,

24:34

this was the Kickstarter. This is where

24:36

the term activation products came from because

24:39

when I took it, it's called Oceans

24:41

Alive. And it was unheard of at

24:43

the time because the main ingredient in

24:46

it is a nutritional molecule made from

24:48

marine phytoplankton. It's harvested originally. from the

24:50

ocean and then it's grown on land

24:53

because there are thousands of strains of

24:55

marine phytoplankton in the ocean all over

24:57

the world. And there was a 40-year

25:00

study from 1960 through the early 2000s

25:02

where they were analyzing the benefits of

25:04

these marine phytoplankton species for aquaculture fish

25:06

farms for making biofuels and they discovered

25:09

there are two strains that are a

25:11

perfect match for the human nutritional profile.

25:13

And so they started getting people to

25:16

take it because in Europe you can't

25:18

even sell it there unless it's registered

25:20

as a novel food Because it's not

25:23

on their list, but in Canada and

25:25

the US and other countries it can

25:27

be sold and so there was a

25:30

gentleman in Vancouver Canada who was bringing

25:32

it in in a powder form and

25:34

I bought a kilogram from him It

25:37

was quite expensive and and and I

25:39

I started taking a teaspoon a day,

25:41

and within a couple of weeks, I

25:44

noticed I had a whole different energy

25:46

in my body, and within three months,

25:48

it was like my whole body got

25:51

charged up like a battery charge. And

25:53

I was amazed at how good I

25:55

felt, even though I was still really

25:58

sick, I just felt really good. And

26:00

I started telling people about it in

26:02

Canada, and they were not interested at

26:05

all. They were like, ooh, that's like

26:07

algae, like pawn scum, that's what they

26:09

would call it. And I go, no,

26:12

no, no, this is very sophisticated. This

26:14

is a super food. Maybe it's an

26:16

ultimate super food, you know? And so

26:19

then I was told by. somebody threw

26:21

a whole bunch of weird synchronicities. I

26:23

got these phone calls where I was

26:26

told about Expo West in Anaheim, California.

26:28

So in March of 2007, I took

26:30

it down there and showed some raw

26:33

food hippies who were in the raw

26:35

food vegan world. And when they took

26:37

it, they were really excited about it.

26:40

They're like, what is that stuff? What

26:42

does it do? And I said, all

26:44

I know is it charges your battery

26:47

up and you're going to feel it.

26:49

Because they said, boy, we feel this

26:51

stuff. And I said, well, yeah, no,

26:53

it's totally legal. It's a super food.

26:56

It's available. And I can get it.

26:58

And they go, well, we'd like to

27:00

get some. So when I went home,

27:03

I got a couple of phone calls.

27:05

And they started ordering it. And that

27:07

year, I found out how to stabilize

27:10

it in a highly concentrated sea mineral

27:12

liquid, where you don't have to freeze

27:14

dry. So it was actually fresh and

27:17

raw. and stabilized just like the day

27:19

it was harvested. I even have samples

27:21

of that product from 2007 today that

27:24

still smells and tastes and works the

27:26

same way as it did 17 years

27:28

ago, 18 years ago. So that, yeah,

27:31

that was a phenomena. And I didn't

27:33

know that we were going to have

27:35

a business around that, but they started

27:38

ordering thousands of bottles at a time

27:40

and we didn't even have a company

27:42

set up. So what I did is

27:45

we set up a small room in

27:47

our basement. and sanitized and made it

27:49

all really clean. And our children helped

27:52

us fill bottles with little beakers and

27:54

funnels. And we bought pipette bottles from

27:56

the local supplier and printed labels on

27:59

our computer. And that's how we started.

28:01

And in the first 24 months, we

28:03

did $2.8 million in sales. Oh my

28:06

goodness. Whoa. And what year was that

28:08

again? That was between 2007 and 2009.

28:10

And when that happened, I realized we

28:13

better pay attention because this is something

28:15

that we're going to have to have

28:17

a serious company around. We formed a

28:20

small company and we just kept on

28:22

shipping down to the States and then

28:24

2011 I wanted to get it online

28:27

which we did and I did a

28:29

little video and a person wrote some

28:31

sales copy for us and a friend

28:34

of mine had a favor that he

28:36

could call for underground health reporter who

28:38

had 150,000 people in their email list

28:40

and they sent a single email one

28:43

email. to their list and we did

28:45

$84,000 in sales in three days from

28:47

that one email. And people loved the

28:50

video and they got the product and

28:52

they loved it and then we just

28:54

started selling directly to people at that

28:57

time. And then we've sold like $30

28:59

million cents of that. And that exploded

29:01

into a significant company in 2014 that

29:04

we It took another three years to

29:06

get a real proper company set up

29:08

with all the certifications, which is a

29:11

major challenge. Because you've got Health Canada

29:13

and Canada, FDA and the states, we

29:15

had to register this with them, and

29:18

we got all the certifications, the insurance

29:20

policies, all the compliance stuff that we

29:22

had to do. And so we've sold

29:25

around $100 million worth of all the

29:27

products that we kept discovering over the

29:29

next 10 years. And we took $35

29:32

million dollars of profit that we got

29:34

from that. from those sales and we

29:36

reinvested it into research and development and

29:39

to build a factory. So we now

29:41

have a 70,000 square foot facility here

29:43

in Canada where we produce all our

29:46

products and we ship them internationally. Oh

29:48

my goodness, that is so cool. You're

29:50

like vertically integrated during all the things.

29:53

Question about oceans alive. So, well, one,

29:55

so you said it's raw. So is

29:57

it actually alive? The plankton. Well, it

30:00

is, but it's suspended instantly. What happens

30:02

when you put it into the high

30:04

concentrated sea mineral liquid? It does an

30:07

osmotic transfer of salinity that instant... It's

30:09

like pickling something. It instantly... pickles it,

30:11

but it's not a pickling process per

30:14

se. But what it does, it suspends

30:16

it exactly as if it was just

30:18

freshly harvested. And that's actually done in

30:21

Europe at the facility where it's produced.

30:23

So that, because otherwise it wouldn't even

30:25

last a day, they would have to

30:27

freeze dry it. And so there's no

30:30

freeze drying, goes right into the solution,

30:32

and there's a very specific percentage that

30:34

we learned about. And they were, they

30:37

made us wait two and a half

30:39

months. before they would let us sell

30:41

it because they didn't believe it could

30:44

possibly stabilize it because they'd never heard

30:46

of doing this before. But I knew

30:48

a guy in Australia who was doing

30:51

this with stinging nettle juice, Hawthorne berries,

30:53

and they were perfectly stable. So I

30:55

thought, well, maybe it'll work with the

30:58

marine phytoplankton, and it totally worked. So

31:00

that's something that's been our premier product

31:02

from day one. And the second product

31:05

that came in was a transdermal magnesiumnesium.

31:07

I learned about a year after a

31:09

year after. We found out about the

31:12

ocean's live. And that is another very

31:14

effective magnesium supplement that goes into your

31:16

skin. You just spray it from your

31:19

neck down to the bottom of your

31:21

feet every day. And it replenishes your

31:23

body with all the fuel you need

31:26

from magnesium. And that's also an ocean

31:28

water extract that is done in Europe

31:30

at a really high purity grade. It's

31:33

called magnesium chloride hexahydrate. And it takes

31:35

us 12 hours to make it in

31:37

our factory. We put it into medically

31:40

grade pure water and then it goes

31:42

through a process for 12 hours in

31:44

a special machine we've got that makes

31:47

it so that when it touches your

31:49

skin, it immediately goes into your body.

31:51

And that has been, you know, that's

31:54

actually our number one product right now.

31:56

It's called Ease. It surpassed the oceans

31:58

alive, but we're coming out with other

32:01

versions of the oceans alive in the

32:03

next year in a dosage form because

32:05

the oceans live right now is in

32:07

a... in a pipette, a bottle of

32:10

liquid, and you put it in juice

32:12

or water or your smoothie. and it

32:14

has an ocean taste to it. And

32:17

some people love it, and other people

32:19

don't love it that much, but they

32:21

still take it because of the effect.

32:24

So that's what, you know, powered our

32:26

company to be able to do all

32:28

the research and to find out about

32:31

other products. And we only have 15

32:33

products. You know, we're not like companies

32:35

who have hundreds of them. Because these

32:38

are functional, foundational, and they're detox as

32:40

well. Few other quick questions about oceans

32:42

alive one you mentioned the taste and

32:45

then the saline suspension or the solution

32:47

Because I notice it tastes are really

32:49

salty is that coming from where is

32:52

that coming from the salty flavor? Well,

32:54

there's a special place where they where

32:56

they harvest the sea minerals from the

32:59

ocean and they do it through an

33:01

evaporation process But they don't evaporate it

33:03

to dry salt. They evaporate it down

33:06

to a liquid that is so thick.

33:08

It's like syrup If you spill it

33:10

on the floor, it takes quite a

33:13

while to mop it up. And it

33:15

goes through a purification process to make

33:17

sure it doesn't have any contamination in

33:20

it. And so that's all done in

33:22

Europe. And then that gets shipped to

33:24

Canada, and we blend two different strains

33:27

of the marine fighter plankton together to

33:29

make oceans live. So it's actually blended

33:31

in Canada. The first one we came

33:34

out with was only the gatana. It's

33:36

called nanochlorotana. and then we added tetra

33:38

semis because that's the second one that's

33:41

even more powerful. Just because I've done

33:43

a lot of education around spiralina, is

33:45

this in the same family as that

33:48

or is that, or is this completely

33:50

different? Well the spiralina and chlorella and

33:52

Dunalelia are three other different strains of

33:54

an algae, but they're fresh water-based. This

33:57

is marine-based. So this has an infinite

33:59

number more of nutrition in it than

34:01

the spiraline or the cholorella. or the

34:04

Donalalia and it's just in a different

34:06

world altogether. Spiralina Clorella and the other

34:08

different ones that are out there are

34:11

good. They're... they're beneficial, but they don't

34:13

have anywhere close to the power or

34:15

the efficacy. And with the oceans live,

34:18

you're only taking 17 drops a day.

34:20

Makes a big difference. Whereas you've got

34:22

to take teaspoonfuls of the other ones.

34:25

So they have a totally different function.

34:27

I'm going to start taking it daily

34:29

now, so I'm excited about that. Also

34:32

a question about the transdermal magnesium. In

34:34

the past, when I experimented with transdermal

34:36

magnesium, I had the experience where... it

34:39

would sting and then I read online,

34:41

Dr. Google, that that meant your body

34:43

really needed it. Is that true or

34:46

is that a myth? No, that's a

34:48

total myth. Those products will sting and

34:50

be itchy and you'll want to rub

34:53

them in and wash it off. Like

34:55

really bad, yeah. Yeah. And so ours

34:57

requires no rubbing in at all. It

35:00

goes on very, very comfortably. It looks

35:02

like water. But when you put it,

35:04

you spray it in your mouth, you

35:07

find out how strong it is. Yeah,

35:09

it just goes immediately into your skin

35:11

without any irritation. Now if you have

35:14

dry skin, it'll take two or three

35:16

times to hydrate your skin. And the

35:18

dry skin will tingle a little bit,

35:21

but that'll go away right away. So

35:23

there's only a few people that have

35:25

ever said it tingled much, because most

35:28

people in the health world have good

35:30

quality skin. this moist, you know, it's

35:32

got hydration in it. So that's yeah,

35:35

that's the experience that I don't know

35:37

why these other companies do what they

35:39

do because they buy the cheapest magnesium

35:41

chloride from mining operations that you could

35:44

find. It literally costs them almost nothing

35:46

to buy. Ours is pricey, but we

35:48

don't we don't charge more. It's the

35:51

same price. Maybe we're a little bit

35:53

more than other products in the market,

35:55

but a month supply is only $29.

35:58

and that's where most people sell their

36:00

stuff. And there's no comparison. You know,

36:02

people immediately say, wow, what a difference.

36:05

And you feel it was in 90

36:07

seconds. And it gives your brain the

36:09

fuel it needs to function at a

36:12

high level. It helps your muscles relax.

36:14

It gets all the calcification out of

36:16

your body because the magnesium joins up

36:19

with the calcium in your joints and

36:21

your muscles and your cardiovascular system to

36:23

get back to the right place where

36:26

it's supposed to be in the bones.

36:28

Well, I love this. I talk about

36:30

the benefits of magnesium all the time.

36:33

And like I said, I was hesitant

36:35

about transdermal versions because of my experience

36:37

and what I was reading. This is

36:40

very clarifying. Another product you make that

36:42

I have that I have been haunted

36:44

by with questions about is iodine. The

36:47

reason I'm haunted is twofold, I guess.

36:49

One is that I got diagnosed with

36:51

hypotheritism like in 2014, I think, and

36:54

that's when I first started learning about

36:56

the importance of iodine and I went

36:58

down the whole path of do like

37:01

the iodine skin test and you know

37:03

take iodine and the first time I

37:05

took iodine it's the only time where

37:08

I took a supplement and I so

37:10

obviously reacted that it scared me so

37:12

like the next day or I don't

37:15

know if it was the same day

37:17

or the next day but my eyes

37:19

turned bloodshot red it was really scary

37:22

so then I was reading that that

37:24

was because I was shedding other Eids,

37:26

like bromides, and fluorides, I don't know

37:28

if that's accurate or not, but in

37:31

any case, so that's the first reason

37:33

I'm haunted by iodine. The second reason

37:35

is, actually the first guess that I

37:38

had on this show, I know we're

37:40

like at 200 or 300 episodes now,

37:42

but Dr. Allen Christensen, it was not

37:45

for his book on iodine, but I

37:47

had him back for his book on

37:49

iodine, and he actually makes the argument

37:52

in his book, I think it's the

37:54

thyroid reset word reset diet. iodine and

37:56

thyroid is that people have too much

37:59

iodine. So that was really confusing to

38:01

go from hearing that everybody needs iodine

38:03

to reading his book and thinking, oh

38:06

we actually need to go on a

38:08

below iodine diet and like get rid

38:10

of iodine. So I am like very

38:13

confused by iodine and you make a

38:15

very interesting form that is aqueous base.

38:17

So just with water, iodine, I hate

38:20

you with a lot, but what are

38:22

your thoughts on iodine? No, so I

38:24

went through that whole journey myself as

38:27

well and did that with some clients

38:29

here and there. We started out with

38:31

a very potent form of it, which

38:34

is way too strong. and it had

38:36

a whole bunch of other elements like

38:38

the Lugals, for example, is one. That's

38:41

why I used. Yeah, the iodine and

38:43

the iodine and a whole bunch of

38:45

other stuff and even put a skull

38:48

and crossbones on the bottle when you

38:50

get it. But that's way overdose. And

38:52

it's also conflicted with a whole lot

38:55

of other material which you don't want.

38:57

So we brought it out to start

38:59

with back in 2010. Or the lab

39:02

guy accidentally spilled some on his arm

39:04

one. once when he was moving a

39:06

beaker around and he instantly washed it

39:08

off as fast as he could but

39:11

he got all a pea and all

39:13

his hair fall out within weeks and

39:15

so that was like okay we're not

39:18

gonna do that anymore that was the

39:20

end of that because I thought what

39:22

if somebody spills our product and then

39:25

you got a big liability so I

39:27

didn't do anything at all with iodine

39:29

for another 10 years wow okay and

39:32

I and I didn't touch it so

39:34

we found out in 2020 about a

39:36

technology where you take pure form iodine

39:39

is called I2 molecular iodine crystals and

39:41

the technology that we were shown was

39:43

how to turn that into a gas

39:46

and infuse that into medical grade water

39:48

at 300 parts per million. And when

39:50

I did that one, I had only

39:53

good response 100% because your body wants

39:55

a low dose, but it wants a

39:57

high volume of that low dose. So

40:00

now instead of taking a very high

40:02

dose low volume, your body is now

40:04

going to be able to regulate and

40:07

every cell in your body, because the

40:09

thyroid cannot use iodine. Everybody thinks that

40:11

iodine is for the thyroid, but it's

40:14

not. It's for every cell in your

40:16

body. And everyone's iodine deficient. But what

40:18

happens is when the iodine goes into

40:21

your body, it may react with fungus

40:23

or yeast overgrowth or heavy metals or

40:25

some kind of microbial thing, like a

40:28

pathogen. And when it reacts with them,

40:30

it shuts them down and converts to

40:32

iodide. So now you have pure iodide

40:35

going into your bloodstream internally. and that's

40:37

what feeds your thyroid. And you just

40:39

got just the right amount of iodine

40:42

going to your thyroid. And the other

40:44

important thing about the thyroid is it

40:46

gets plugged up with bromide and fluoride.

40:49

And that makes the receptor site so

40:51

they can't receive the iodide. But the

40:53

iodine goes to the thyroid and cleans

40:55

out the receptor sites, even though the

40:58

thyroid can't use that, it helps it

41:00

by cleaning it out. and then now

41:02

the iodine can get in there. And

41:05

the thyroid takes iodine fuel and converts

41:07

that to T3T4 Iodine hormones that power

41:09

the endocrine system, gut health, and brain

41:12

function. So you're just getting the right

41:14

amount every single time. And so it's

41:16

in a super safe zone and we've

41:19

had people with hyper-thyroidism, hypo-thyroidism, Hashimoto, all

41:21

kinds of things. get great response and

41:23

feel much much better where their thyroid

41:26

comes back online properly because it's getting

41:28

fueled with the right dosage. So when

41:30

it goes in and quote cleans out

41:33

the thyroid which can be clogged up

41:35

with bromides and florides and stuff can

41:37

it have that effect of shedding like

41:40

can you have a detox reaction by

41:42

shedding the bromides and florides? Well no

41:44

you don't because the what because it's

41:47

such a low dose in a high

41:49

volume it's just a gentle super gentle

41:51

you would have to drink a whole

41:54

bottle to have a big reaction and

41:56

you would never do that. You know,

41:58

like when you get a... 500mm bottle,

42:01

you take one cap full in four

42:03

ounces of water and drink it. Now,

42:05

in North America and some other countries,

42:08

they see the recommended daily allowance, according

42:10

to government policy, is 150 micrograms, which

42:12

is nothing at all. Like that's so

42:15

low as ridiculous. You go to Japan,

42:17

for example, where you have some of

42:19

the most intelligent people in the world

42:22

living a very, very long time. they

42:24

take up to 10,000 micrograms a day

42:26

that they recommend of the pure form.

42:29

So it's like why would there be

42:31

that difference with government regulations? So a

42:33

capful is around 5,000 micrograms and it's

42:36

super gentle because it's in the right

42:38

form. Having in the right form is

42:40

everything. That makes all the difference in

42:42

the world. So that's, you know, people.

42:45

I recommend everybody start with a very

42:47

tiny amount and see how they feel

42:49

and then add a little bit more

42:52

and see how they feel until they

42:54

work their self up to a cap

42:56

full a day. And when you do

42:59

that you're going to see a huge

43:01

upgrade in your overall brain health and

43:03

your endocrine system because that and of

43:06

course your whole body is going to

43:08

get energized. I men use it. They'll

43:10

spray it on the scrotum because the

43:13

scrotum is like a sponge. It goes

43:15

right in and that's the raw material

43:17

for you to produce testosterone for you

43:20

to produce testosterone. For women, if you're

43:22

iodine deficient, you're going to have fibroid

43:24

problems and endometriosis. That's the root cause

43:27

of those issues. So it's just a

43:29

phenomena. And same with gut health. Like

43:31

people get diverticulitis, they get, you know,

43:34

maybe crones disease or whatever these terrible

43:36

things are that can happen with their

43:38

gut. And by making sure your body

43:41

has the iodine deficiency fixed, those things

43:43

just go away. The IDON doesn't cure

43:45

anything. The body heals itself when you

43:48

support it with the fuel it needs.

43:50

Because you can't make a medical claim

43:52

and say... was going to cure that,

43:55

that's ridiculous. It doesn't cure anything. Your

43:57

body will heal itself when you give

43:59

it the right fuel. I will say

44:02

it was nice because I had been

44:04

making some saline rinses with the other

44:06

form, like Lugal's iodine, which feel like

44:09

death doing them. And I made it

44:11

with yours and I was like, oh,

44:13

this is much more approachable. Right. Even

44:16

taste good. Yeah. I was like, I

44:18

can do this. I remember the first

44:20

time. When I had COVID, the first

44:23

time. my friend was a doctor and

44:25

he was like you got to make

44:27

this iodine rinse and he like gave

44:29

me the recipe and it was so

44:32

much iodine in it and I I

44:34

just did it and I literally I

44:36

was like the burning sensation I was

44:39

like this is horrible I'm not doing

44:41

this again. Do you know if the

44:43

form of iodine and iodine salt is

44:46

that problematic? Well that's potassium iodide and

44:48

I consider that a toxin to the

44:50

body. That's what they put in salt

44:53

back in the early 1900 because they

44:55

were having so many problems with Goiter

44:57

and mental illness. When they put it

45:00

into the salt, because everybody was using

45:02

salt, they actually mandated that as a

45:04

law, that salt producers had to put

45:07

the Aya dyed, the potassium iodide in

45:09

with the salt. And it did help

45:11

people. But when you can have something

45:14

that's infinitely superior to that, I don't

45:16

touch potassium iodide. I have no need

45:18

for it at all. Okay. Yeah, I

45:21

wonder. I need to read. It's been

45:23

so long now. I want to reread

45:25

Dr. Christensen Christensen. Yeah, it was so

45:28

confusing to read his book after thinking

45:30

I needed iodine, but now this is

45:32

really helpful. It sounds like there's a

45:35

lot of nuance and complexity. So, okay,

45:37

iodine. And then, okay, so I teased

45:39

it at the beginning. You have all

45:42

of these different seed oil type products.

45:44

Okay, first of all, just a general

45:46

question about seed oil products in general.

45:49

How do you feel about the vibe

45:51

out there that we should avoid seed

45:53

oils at all costs because... You know,

45:56

we shouldn't be pressing oils from seeds

45:58

like it's not like a natural natural

46:00

thing. That's right. Well, and it's actually

46:03

there's a tremendous amount of accuracy in

46:05

that statement because the seed oil that

46:07

is produced in the world is what

46:10

I now know to be adulterated seed

46:12

oils. It's very damaged. It is extremely

46:14

inflammatory to the body. It is the

46:16

worst thing you could put in your

46:19

system and it's laced in everything. Like

46:21

all the packaged foods, even like organic

46:23

hummus is full of adulterated seed oils

46:26

that is produced totally incorrectly. And there's

46:28

all, the science is out there. You

46:30

should never have more than 1% of

46:33

your nutritional intake with seed oils. 1%

46:35

is the max. As soon as you

46:37

go over 1% you got a problem.

46:40

And there's a massive difference between adulterated

46:42

seed oils and unadulterated seed oils. So

46:44

unadulterated simply means that it's not damaged

46:47

at all. And it comes from very

46:49

specific. therapeutic seeds. Our number one cellar

46:51

in the seed oil world is black

46:54

cumin seed oil. It's also referred to

46:56

as black seed oil and that is

46:58

has major health benefits both externally and

47:01

internally because it's a whole body tonic

47:03

and it goes in the body and

47:05

cleanses and nourishes the entire body and

47:08

you only take one teaspoon a day

47:10

and you wait till the end of

47:12

a meal and you put it in

47:15

your mouth. It's a spicy taste. You

47:17

lean your head forward just a little

47:19

bit to keep the seed oil in

47:22

your mouth. You swish it for a

47:24

minute and then swallow it with a

47:26

little bit of water. And it tastes

47:29

wonderful when you do that. If you

47:31

just swallow it straight, it's not the

47:33

most pleasant thing. And if a person

47:36

has a sore throat, they gargle with

47:38

it and swallow it one teaspoon. And

47:40

it gets rid of the sore throat

47:43

very, very quickly. But it has multiple

47:45

applications externally, externally, everything from aches and

47:47

pains that go away. All kinds of

47:50

skin issues like psoriasis, eczema, acne, dry

47:52

skin. lesions, abrasions, all that kind of

47:54

stuff, is soothed immediately with the black

47:56

cream and seed oil. So it's therapeutic,

47:59

because in a whole different world, I

48:01

don't eat any food at all that

48:03

has seed oils in it. I stay

48:06

away from it completely. I think it's

48:08

one of the worst things in the

48:10

food industry that you could possibly consume.

48:13

To clarify when you said not more

48:15

than 1% is that all seed oils

48:17

adulterated and unadulterated or just adulterated? Well,

48:20

no, that's just adult, all of the

48:22

above. Even therapeutically, you wouldn't want to

48:24

go over 1% because your body doesn't

48:27

even need that for nutrition. It's not

48:29

a new, yes, it has nutrients in

48:31

it, but it's not meant for that.

48:34

Like we have an amaranth seed oil.

48:36

Amaranth seed is an ancient grain. And

48:38

when you extract the oil from that,

48:41

it's very difficult to do. We have

48:43

a technology that does that in this

48:45

purest form. We don't use any hexanes

48:48

or solvents or solvents or anything like

48:50

that or anything like that, or anything

48:52

like that. This is a mechanical press

48:55

technology that no one else has. And

48:57

when you do that, you only have

48:59

one dropper, and you're going to get

49:02

so much energy from that. I didn't

49:04

even understand the mechanics of it, because

49:06

I didn't think you could get energy

49:09

from oil, but you do. And that

49:11

particular oil is a major energy thing.

49:13

It also works wonders on the skin,

49:16

because it's got 8% squailing in it.

49:18

So that's a very therapeutic. oil and

49:20

that is only one ounce bottle that

49:23

you buy it and it lasts a

49:25

long time. So, you know, there's dad

49:27

and there's coriander seed oil for gut

49:30

health and that's another just one dropper

49:32

only of that. So it's very small

49:34

amounts and your body will just love

49:37

it. With all of the oils, like

49:39

you're saying with the the black human

49:41

that you, you know, you take it

49:43

a very specific way at the end

49:46

of the meal, like what will happen

49:48

if you take it at a different

49:50

time in the meal? that you take

49:53

them? Well all the oils can be

49:55

consumed anytime except if you take the

49:57

black human seed oil on an empty

50:00

stomach, it will go in, you'll feel it

50:02

in your gut. And you might even get

50:04

a burp that'll come up from it,

50:06

which you won't enjoy. So people can

50:09

do it. A lot of people take

50:11

it straight. I recommend to have it

50:13

right after the meal, because then it

50:15

goes in with the food and you

50:17

don't get any reaction at all.

50:19

Okay, that makes sense. And for

50:21

the, you said it's pronounced squailin

50:23

in Amaranth? Yep. So I thought this

50:26

was school I was reading on

50:28

your website on your website. We

50:30

stopped making it and that that may be

50:32

one of the reasons we aged so rapidly.

50:34

So Amaranth oil is really high in

50:37

squailing? It's like 10 times higher than

50:39

shark liver oil. I was going to ask

50:41

about shark. I was reading about that.

50:43

So people get it from shark? Oh,

50:45

they killed millions of sharks every

50:47

year just for their squailing

50:49

from the liver. It's just a crime.

50:51

It's terrible. And then what about the

50:53

role of Omega 3-6s in these oils?

50:55

I don't even bother with that.

50:58

That's some marketing hype that the

51:00

fish oil industry comes out with.

51:02

In the fish oil world, they're

51:04

either triglycerides or they're more on

51:06

the fight hole level, but the

51:09

like the poly poly, whatever they

51:11

call that. I'm so not interested

51:13

that I don't even bother to

51:15

remember the terms. Those have some

51:17

benefit. I just don't trust fish

51:19

oils at all because I don't know

51:22

the purity level or how damaged it

51:24

is as well. In Canada, they have

51:26

seal oil, which comes from a

51:28

mammal. And then there's a big controversy

51:30

about how they kill the seals and

51:32

all that stuff that goes on. So

51:35

I don't bother with that world. You

51:37

know, the whole Omega 369, yeah, this

51:39

is irrelevant to me. We have a

51:41

five seed oil blend that has a

51:43

little bit of Omega 3 in it.

51:45

because it's got flax and flax oil

51:48

is being condemned as well, which is

51:50

unjust, but the reason it gets condemned

51:52

is because it's produced wrong, number one,

51:54

number two it's not packaged properly, number

51:56

three it goes rancid very quickly, ours

51:59

doesn't go rancid. ever. And it's

52:01

produced properly so it's not damaged

52:03

and it's stored in mirror on

52:05

glass. So it's like sunflower, which

52:07

is a vitamin E, flax, pumpkin,

52:09

black sesame, which is good for

52:11

the kidneys, and coriander, which is

52:13

good for the gut, and coriander,

52:16

which is good for the gut. And again,

52:18

it's only one teaspoon a day. So that

52:20

is like a one stop shop that

52:22

people love. That's one of our original

52:25

oils that we came up with and

52:27

has sold very, very, very, very, So

52:29

that's the only combination of all

52:32

that we make. Awesome. Okay, yeah,

52:34

because I was wondering, like, could

52:36

a person take all of these oils?

52:39

But if so, would that put you

52:41

over? Would you be taking too much

52:43

oil? No, that'll keep you well below

52:45

the 1%. Okay, okay. So these oils

52:47

are coming from therapeutic

52:49

seeds, like you mentioned.

52:52

Extracting that oil from the seed

52:54

and then the health benefits of

52:56

the initial seed. Do you get

52:58

more benefits in the oil form

53:00

compared to eating the actual seed?

53:03

Like what's the comparison between the original

53:05

seed versus the oil? Well in the

53:07

seed the oil is bound very tightly

53:10

to the fiber inside the seed and

53:12

our bodies are not able to extract

53:14

the oil out of that fiber. So when we

53:16

press the oil away from the fiber without

53:19

damaging it because that's the technology

53:21

side, that allows your body to

53:23

get the full benefit in a

53:25

very low dose of the... concentrated,

53:27

unadulterated seed oil. Okay, awesome.

53:30

So for your milk thistle oil, for

53:32

example, I know a lot of people

53:34

often take milk thistle as a supplement,

53:36

is it the same benefits that people

53:38

anticipate with that being for the liver,

53:40

and is it better in oil form,

53:42

presumably? Yeah, well, yeah, the milk thistle,

53:45

there's a bunch of different

53:47

components of the milk thistle

53:49

that people do extracts from

53:51

the flower, the leaves, the

53:53

different parts of it. the

53:55

highest concentration of the medicinal

53:58

benefits are in the milk

54:00

thistle for is the liver prophylactic.

54:02

So that's gonna protect the

54:04

liver from damage if they drink

54:07

alcohol. And or if they have toxic stuff

54:09

going through their system, it'll protect

54:11

the liver material. And then

54:13

if they did drink, they'll take some

54:16

right afterwards so they don't get the

54:18

hangover. I don't touch alcohol in my life.

54:20

I found out how poisonous alcohol is, so

54:22

I just avoid it like the plague.

54:25

Milk Thistle is just overall good for

54:27

liver health regardless of whether

54:29

you drink alcohol or not. And

54:31

that's only half a teaspoon a day.

54:34

And it's very concentrated and very

54:36

smooth. Awesome. I'm ordering that one

54:38

like right now. I am a wine drinker.

54:40

So yeah, I actually and I in the

54:42

past I'd actually I had milk thistle powder

54:45

seed powder. I don't know if it was

54:47

good quality or not, but I really like

54:49

the taste of it is the point. So

54:51

I think I'll probably like the taste. of

54:53

the oil. Historically, do you

54:56

know, because you're talking about these

54:58

extraction methods and such, how were

55:00

ancient cultures creating seed oils? Like

55:02

you talked about Cleopatra and stuff,

55:04

like did they have systems to

55:07

do this? Well, back then, I mean,

55:09

what I've learned about the history of our

55:11

world, we were told, you know, you and

55:13

I were told that when we showed

55:15

up in this generation that we're the only...

55:18

hyper intelligent generation that figured out how

55:20

to fly airplanes around and create cars from

55:22

below the dirt and you know get the

55:24

fuel out of the earth and power our

55:26

vehicles. That's not true. There are multiple

55:29

generations in the past and there's

55:31

all kinds of scientific evidence for

55:33

this that there were as sophisticated

55:35

as we were only even more sophisticated. So

55:37

in the past they've had technologies to

55:39

do all kinds of things and it

55:42

was not just a morticing and pestle

55:44

where you're grinding it or grinding it

55:46

out. by hand. You know, I mean there was

55:49

ages where the people did that with

55:51

seed oils, but they would do that

55:53

daily and then it would be fresh.

55:55

It wouldn't have a chance to go

55:57

rancid. So if you had a little...

56:00

press at home you can press

56:02

your oils and then take them

56:04

right away but if you there

56:06

is going to be damaged in

56:08

that pressing operation like any kind

56:10

of cold expel or press significantly

56:12

damages the seed oil in process

56:14

but because you take it right

56:16

away it's okay it's not going

56:18

to hurt you people don't want

56:20

to have to get a little

56:22

oil press at their house as

56:24

a big pain in the butt

56:26

and they're you know it's expensive

56:28

One of my other shows is

56:30

called The Mindblown Podcast. It's my

56:32

non-health related show. And we just

56:34

talk about random fun topics. So

56:36

we've done an episode on ancient

56:38

technologies. We did a two-part series

56:40

on the pyramids. And I hadn't

56:42

really dug into that until I

56:44

was researching for that. And yeah,

56:46

it's kind of. To me, now

56:48

that I've looked into it, it

56:50

just seems so blatantly obvious that

56:52

there were advanced civilizations and technologies

56:54

and things. And it's a little

56:56

upsetting that if you say that,

56:58

people think you're a conspiracy theories

57:00

for some reason. I'm not sure

57:02

why. It's like if there's evidence

57:04

of this stuff, like why is,

57:07

I don't know, I find it

57:09

really fascinating. Yeah, well, you know,

57:11

to even talking about it from

57:13

a common sense standpoint, how is

57:15

it possible that you could have...

57:17

a male and a female on

57:19

the earth having a child who

57:21

then grows up and marries another

57:23

child from another male and female

57:25

who had a child and the

57:27

population stays right at the bottom

57:29

of the chart for thousands of

57:31

years and then all of a

57:33

sudden in the early 1900s it

57:35

goes up to eight billion people

57:37

in a hundred years you know

57:39

really guys oh yes the first

57:41

time has ever happened I don't

57:43

believe that for one second in

57:45

fact there's evidence that there was

57:47

a massive flood on the earth

57:49

at one point And prior to

57:51

that flood, they estimate the population

57:53

was 35 billion people, because the

57:55

earth was five, six land and

57:57

one six water at that time.

57:59

And now it's five, six, you

58:01

know, water and one six land.

58:03

So, you know, they can try

58:05

to tell us another one. It's

58:07

just common sense that no, we're

58:09

not the only ones who figured

58:11

it out. Everyone's figured it out

58:13

over the time and they just

58:16

keep doing these resets. Whoever they

58:18

are, they do a reset. And

58:20

even you go to Europe and

58:22

North America and there's evidence that

58:24

this place has been around for

58:26

thousands of years. It's not just

58:28

in the last few hundred years.

58:30

And there was a reset done

58:32

where you see mud floods where

58:34

cities are buried and they dig

58:36

down and they find a whole

58:38

city. Well, how did they get

58:40

into the mud? Did they dig

58:42

down into the earth and build

58:44

a city? I don't think so.

58:46

It was there and it got

58:48

flooded. So mud floods are a

58:50

whole other topic. And yeah, it's

58:52

mind blowing stuff. It's like, yeah,

58:54

but again, the evidence is everywhere

58:56

all over the world. It's as

58:58

a matter of looking. Yeah, it's

59:00

so interesting. Like when I learned,

59:02

I mean, semi recently when I

59:04

was looking into this, because like

59:06

growing up, especially like the pyramids,

59:08

like hieroglyphics and all this stuff

59:10

and mummies, then I learned, oh,

59:12

they've never found a mummy. And

59:14

there's like nothing inside. Like there's

59:16

not. And they're lined up perfectly

59:18

with the star system, perfectly. The

59:20

gridlines are dialed in. And how

59:23

did they make them? You know,

59:25

who made those? They had levitation

59:27

technologies. They had ways of cutting

59:29

rock to precision accuracy. They weighed

59:31

900 tons. Every piece like who

59:33

can lift up a 900 ton

59:35

piece of rock and set it

59:37

perfectly? And all the we relied

59:39

to right from the very beginning

59:41

and the conspiracy theory is not

59:43

a theory at all. It's a

59:45

conspiracy reality So we're conspiracy realists.

59:47

Yeah, I agree and all the

59:49

all the different cultures have this

59:51

story of a flood like I'm

59:53

pretty sure there was some sort

59:55

of flood. Oh massive flood It

59:57

was massive and the earth was

59:59

mined, thoroughly mined. People are going,

1:00:01

oh look at those mountains, most

1:00:03

of those mountains. are the leftovers

1:00:05

from mining operations. You can see

1:00:07

all the scraping of all the

1:00:09

high-tech equipment. They had the massive

1:00:11

equipment to dig those things out.

1:00:13

Like the Grand Canyon is a

1:00:15

perfect example. That's not a natural

1:00:17

thing at all. That was done

1:00:19

by men who had big equipment

1:00:21

and they were mining stuff. You

1:00:23

know, we have a cottage north

1:00:25

of Toronto in the archipelago. There's

1:00:27

30,000 islands there. And I remember

1:00:30

as a kid walking around and

1:00:32

going like, where did all these

1:00:34

rocks come from? Why is the...

1:00:36

you know, the Canadian Shield all

1:00:38

broken. There's millions of rocks just

1:00:40

around our one island and there's

1:00:42

30,000 islands. That didn't come from

1:00:44

a glacier. Not a chance. That

1:00:46

was mined. And our island is

1:00:48

full of quartz crystal. And there

1:00:50

were big chunks of quartz crystal

1:00:52

left on the island that we

1:00:54

found. Big chunks, like big, they

1:00:56

couldn't even pick them up. What

1:00:58

are they doing there? Oh yeah,

1:01:00

that's just natural. There's nothing natural

1:01:02

about that at all. I love

1:01:04

this. I wonder if stone mountain

1:01:06

mountain is related to that. here

1:01:08

in Jordan and Atlanta, there's like

1:01:10

this stone mountain thing. Oh yeah,

1:01:12

and where did all the volcanoes

1:01:14

come from? The evidence is there

1:01:16

that that's a toxic leftover from

1:01:18

the mining operations. They're not natural

1:01:20

in that sense. It's the Earth's

1:01:22

natural ability to detoxify itself, but

1:01:24

you know, those are man-made, for

1:01:26

the most part. If you look

1:01:28

at the Mariana trench that goes

1:01:30

down to 50,000 feet in the

1:01:32

Pacific Ocean, Take a look on

1:01:34

Google Maps, you'll see all the

1:01:36

scrapings of all the equipment that

1:01:39

dug that out. Oh, that's interesting.

1:01:41

So all of that said, do

1:01:43

you think in these prehistoric cultures

1:01:45

that we no longer have, that

1:01:47

they had similar seeds, like similar

1:01:49

things, like was that a consistency,

1:01:51

you think? For sure. All the

1:01:53

vegetation, all the species of plants

1:01:55

and animals. are in the billions

1:01:57

and billions of different species and

1:01:59

extinction has been going on forever.

1:02:01

There's probably millions of species that

1:02:03

are completely extinct that were here

1:02:05

way back. The oxygen concentration, the

1:02:07

air was much higher, the Earth

1:02:09

magnetic forces were much higher. People

1:02:11

were living over 900 years. You

1:02:13

know, that's really interesting. Why did

1:02:15

they do that? Because they were

1:02:17

in a totally different environment than

1:02:19

you and I are in right

1:02:21

now. And those technologies were far

1:02:23

superior. They had transportation tech. That

1:02:25

transportation technology exists now. They just

1:02:27

don't reveal it to us. It's

1:02:29

been around forever. You know, if

1:02:31

you look at the documentary, shoot

1:02:33

the moon on Vimeo, not shoot

1:02:35

for the moon, but shoot the

1:02:37

moon, the guy who videotaped and

1:02:39

filmed the moon for three years,

1:02:41

straight with a high-power lens and

1:02:43

a high-definition video camera, saw all

1:02:46

kinds of interesting things of vehicle.

1:02:48

vehicle movement at night time, parameter

1:02:50

shaped in formation, traveling at massively

1:02:52

high speeds with no propulsion evidence

1:02:54

at all. Like how were they

1:02:56

moving? There's no fuel coming out

1:02:58

the back, there's no evidence of

1:03:00

motors, and they're flying in formation.

1:03:02

So people watch the documentary and

1:03:04

they make their own decision. The

1:03:06

guy who did that believes that

1:03:08

that's human technology. That's been around

1:03:10

forever. On the moon. Well, it's

1:03:12

not on the moon. It's the

1:03:14

moon was the backdrop of light

1:03:16

that he that lit up. Okay,

1:03:18

so where did he see this

1:03:20

stuff? Yeah, shoot the moon. It's

1:03:22

very interesting. But again, each person

1:03:24

has to make their own decisions,

1:03:26

not listen to what somebody else

1:03:28

tells them what they're supposed to

1:03:30

think, because that's the biggest problem

1:03:32

is everybody's told what they're supposed

1:03:34

to think and you're supposed to

1:03:36

believe that everybody's telling you the

1:03:38

truth. They're not telling the truth.

1:03:40

If you get this, this is

1:03:42

like so random, this is just

1:03:44

a brainstorming question. So let's say

1:03:46

there's another flood. or some other,

1:03:48

you know, catastrophic event coming and

1:03:50

we're just going to get buried

1:03:52

and it's all going to start

1:03:55

over again and people are going

1:03:57

to doubt that this civilization existed.

1:03:59

What would you... If you could

1:04:01

write something on a tablet that

1:04:03

would somehow survive this event, what

1:04:05

would you tell the future generation

1:04:07

on the flip side that doesn't

1:04:09

believe in us? Right. Well, I

1:04:11

would say that you have the

1:04:13

ability to create aircraft, you have

1:04:15

the ability to create vehicles, you

1:04:17

have the ability to dig into

1:04:19

the earth and get all the

1:04:21

minerals out and make all kinds

1:04:23

of high technology stuff like we

1:04:25

do now, and you've got to

1:04:27

learn to do it in a

1:04:29

non-toxic way. So you don't have

1:04:31

tire dust. One 10 billion pounds

1:04:33

a year of tire dust is

1:04:35

releasing United States alone a mile

1:04:37

and a half above every highway

1:04:39

that is polluting our bodies every

1:04:41

time you breathe. And you break

1:04:43

dust and all these terrible low

1:04:45

vibration technologies that are polluting our

1:04:47

world and destroying it. Don't do

1:04:49

that. Find a better way. You

1:04:51

know, there's levitation. We haven't, we

1:04:53

know about levitation, but we haven't.

1:04:55

personally been allowed to have any

1:04:57

of that stuff. But even a

1:04:59

flying saucer, which is very real,

1:05:02

was invented in the 1950s by

1:05:04

Victor Schauberger's technology, and they had

1:05:06

them, but they don't test that.

1:05:08

No, no, no. We're not allowed

1:05:10

to have that. So people have

1:05:12

done it. When you spin something,

1:05:14

it lifts off the ground. It

1:05:16

has its own energy, and it

1:05:18

doesn't require wings to fly. So

1:05:20

what we have is brutally old

1:05:22

tech, but I would just write

1:05:24

down, do it. the best, you

1:05:26

know, find the right way. Don't

1:05:28

repeat these terrible things that are

1:05:30

destroying the earth. And energy, by

1:05:32

the way, is free. It's all

1:05:34

over the place. It comes mainly

1:05:36

from the sun. Brilliant. I love

1:05:38

that last random question. Then we

1:05:40

can come back to the health

1:05:42

stuff. But why do you think

1:05:44

now the government is acknowledging like

1:05:46

these UAPs and everything, like finally

1:05:48

now? Well, I think there's an

1:05:50

agenda around that. It's like there's

1:05:52

a timed release. From what I've

1:05:54

learned, there's a 300-year rolling program.

1:05:56

that is designed to get people

1:05:58

to come under mind control and

1:06:00

to believe that certain things are

1:06:02

certain ways and UFOs and those

1:06:04

kind of things that that people,

1:06:06

you know, unidentified flying object, those

1:06:09

are all human technologies. It's not

1:06:11

some alien invasion or something like

1:06:13

that, but they can produce because

1:06:15

of the mind control, they can

1:06:17

produce an alien invasion if they

1:06:19

want and make people believe that's

1:06:21

something there. It's always been around.

1:06:23

It always will be around. And

1:06:25

I personally believe there are places

1:06:27

of this earth that we're not

1:06:29

told about at all. And only

1:06:31

certain people have access to those

1:06:33

places. And they talk about going

1:06:35

to Mars and all that. Are

1:06:37

you kidding? You're going to go

1:06:39

live on Mars? Go give that

1:06:41

a try. This is ridiculous. Earth

1:06:43

is totally designed for human life.

1:06:45

And this is where we are.

1:06:47

And I believe the Earth is

1:06:49

infinitely huge, infinitely huge. That's a

1:06:51

pretty bold statement. Did you always

1:06:53

think this way or did it

1:06:55

did it relate at all to

1:06:57

your health epiphanies? Getting into the

1:06:59

health allowed my brain to work

1:07:01

in a much different level and

1:07:03

to question everything because when we

1:07:05

I found out there were so

1:07:07

many lies that I was told

1:07:09

just in the health world and

1:07:11

to believe those lies causes death

1:07:13

and you see everybody believing it

1:07:15

around you, everybody gets old and

1:07:18

dies because they don't know how

1:07:20

to take responsibility and manage their

1:07:22

own body. You know, so there's

1:07:24

evidence everywhere that we have to

1:07:26

question everything and we don't just

1:07:28

go with the status quo because

1:07:30

that's mind control and you want

1:07:32

to control your mind. You want

1:07:34

to have your mind be thinking

1:07:36

very critically in a common sense.

1:07:38

It's just even when they rolled

1:07:40

out the whole COVID thing, and

1:07:42

you know, we probably shouldn't even

1:07:44

use the word because it gets

1:07:46

flagged, but when that was rolled

1:07:48

out, I said, are you guys

1:07:50

joking? Every single day at that

1:07:52

time there were 17,700 people dying

1:07:54

every day from lower respiratory infections

1:07:56

and lung disease not include cancer

1:07:58

because heart disease is the biggest

1:08:00

killer cancer is the second biggest

1:08:02

killer but this is up on

1:08:04

the list quite high a hundred

1:08:06

and sixty four thousand people die

1:08:08

every day average that's only point

1:08:10

seven seven percent of one percent

1:08:12

is less than one percent of

1:08:14

the population of the world dies

1:08:16

every year but it's still hundred

1:08:18

sixty four thousand a day you

1:08:20

know and then they're all of

1:08:22

a sudden we're supposed to be

1:08:25

afraid of dying from some virus

1:08:27

in the air and if there

1:08:29

was a virus that was contagious

1:08:31

it would never stop it would

1:08:33

never stop It would just keep

1:08:35

getting more contagious until everybody had

1:08:37

it and died if that was

1:08:39

the case. So I didn't fear

1:08:41

that at all. I said, hold

1:08:43

it. I call that the common

1:08:45

cold or the flu. And if

1:08:47

you have, if your body's full

1:08:49

of pollution, you're going to die

1:08:51

from that, you're going to die

1:08:53

from that from hypoxia. So it

1:08:55

just comes back to, again, common

1:08:57

sense and mathematical certainty. And they

1:08:59

never put any of that stuff

1:09:01

on the news, not even once.

1:09:03

They just tried to create panic.

1:09:05

A pandemic. Panic. Yeah, I think

1:09:07

one of the craziest things I

1:09:09

saw during all of that, Scientific

1:09:11

American had a article and they

1:09:13

had a chart. I literally kept

1:09:15

staring at this chart and I

1:09:17

was like, is this a joke?

1:09:19

Is this, this is not real?

1:09:21

So it was a chart and

1:09:23

it's, it was like a chart

1:09:25

of the flu compared to like

1:09:27

the timeline of COVID and masking.

1:09:29

And it was saying that the

1:09:32

flu had gone down to zero.

1:09:34

because we were all wearing masks

1:09:36

so we weren't getting the flu.

1:09:38

I was like, I don't think

1:09:40

that's the reason there's no flu

1:09:42

being reported. I think they're just

1:09:44

attributing it to COVID, but crazy

1:09:46

to see that in black and

1:09:48

white. And I'm having a real-time

1:09:50

epiphany right now, I think similar

1:09:52

to you, because I've always been

1:09:54

very curious and I've always been

1:09:56

interested in these, as you call

1:09:58

them, conspiracy realities. Is that we

1:10:00

called them? So they've always fascinated

1:10:02

me, but I think it was

1:10:04

entering the... Help sphere and seeing

1:10:06

on a real life practical basis,

1:10:08

just how like horrible the like

1:10:10

the food is and everything and

1:10:12

how it's told to us one

1:10:14

way and how you actually can

1:10:16

heal yourself with all these quote

1:10:18

natural and lifestyle things, that's when

1:10:20

I just really started not trusting

1:10:22

as well in addition to my

1:10:24

curiosity. So I hadn't really thought

1:10:26

about how they go together, but

1:10:28

they do for sure. And they

1:10:30

tell you to put a mask

1:10:32

on and rebreathe all the CO2

1:10:34

that you're supposed to release, and

1:10:36

then you're supposed to breathe the

1:10:38

air through a blue mask that

1:10:41

is putting microplastics into your body

1:10:43

on volume, and then you're covering

1:10:45

your face. In other words, shut

1:10:47

up, cover your mouth, shut up,

1:10:49

and do what you're told. It's

1:10:51

a total enslaving thing. It takes

1:10:53

your identity away. You know, they

1:10:55

put a hood over a person's

1:10:57

head when they're going to execute

1:10:59

them. so they don't see the

1:11:01

face when they're dying. Yeah, it's

1:11:03

a cover up now because we're

1:11:05

killing you. And the whole food

1:11:07

industry is a complete massive conspiracy

1:11:09

reality where they made the food

1:11:11

very poisonous. And then as you

1:11:13

get poisoned and get ill, now

1:11:15

you get to take more poisons

1:11:17

called pharmaceuticals to get well again.

1:11:19

It's a total racket. It's a

1:11:21

circular reasoning bracket that doesn't work.

1:11:23

Now, I personally was not able

1:11:25

to wear a mask. I was

1:11:27

not an anti-masker because I don't

1:11:29

care what anybody does. They do

1:11:31

what they want to do. I

1:11:33

didn't say, you shouldn't wear a

1:11:35

mask. They said, if you want

1:11:37

to wear a mask, put 10

1:11:39

of them on. I don't care.

1:11:41

But I couldn't wear one. And

1:11:43

when I would show up at

1:11:45

a place where you couldn't go

1:11:48

in without a mask, I was

1:11:50

not angry or belligerent with people.

1:11:52

I just said, well, I can't

1:11:54

wear one. intentionally harm myself and

1:11:56

a mask will intentionally harm me

1:11:58

and if there was a contagion

1:12:00

if there was one which there

1:12:02

is not would want exposure to

1:12:04

it immediately because that's when I'm

1:12:06

the strongest. But the true virus

1:12:08

that was released was like a

1:12:10

computer virus, it's a mental virus.

1:12:12

It went around the world at

1:12:14

lightning speed in a month and

1:12:16

everybody believed the lie based upon

1:12:18

a mental virus that's very real.

1:12:20

And then your anxiety hormones go

1:12:22

up, your fear hormones go up

1:12:24

and you'll get sick. You will

1:12:26

actually get sick and that will

1:12:28

convince you, oh there is a

1:12:30

virus out there. Oh my. and

1:12:32

people were getting sick and dying

1:12:34

in the hospital. You know, come

1:12:36

on guys. You know, take a

1:12:38

little bit more responsibility for yourselves.

1:12:40

Have a little more critical thinking.

1:12:42

More common sense, please. And then

1:12:44

it just finally all went away

1:12:46

and everything's okay now and nobody's

1:12:48

wearing masks unless they feel like

1:12:50

it. You know, you still see

1:12:52

masks every day. But it's okay,

1:12:54

again, people do what they want.

1:12:57

I don't want to tell them

1:12:59

what to do, and I don't

1:13:01

want to be told what to

1:13:03

do, what to do either. But

1:13:05

if you told me something to

1:13:07

do that it was really important

1:13:09

that made sense, I'll do it.

1:13:11

Because you've enlightened me. But I'm

1:13:13

not going around saying, just tell

1:13:15

me what to do and I'll

1:13:17

do it. You know, that's very

1:13:19

harmful. Yeah, I'm the same way.

1:13:21

I'm the same way. I really,

1:13:23

like literally, I just want people

1:13:25

to do what they want to

1:13:27

do. Like I have no interest

1:13:29

in convincing anybody of anything. And

1:13:31

like you as well, I also

1:13:33

don't want to be told what

1:13:35

to do if it's against my

1:13:37

well- Okay yeah and then oh

1:13:39

we talked about this since we're

1:13:41

talking about viruses when you interviewed

1:13:43

me what are your thoughts on

1:13:45

verbal viruses? Well verbal viruses are

1:13:47

pervasive and they are very very

1:13:49

harmful because I learned that I

1:13:51

had a life full of verbal

1:13:53

viruses and one of the biggest

1:13:55

ones and I did a little

1:13:57

video that I can share with

1:13:59

you afterwards on this subject matter

1:14:01

which is a short video but

1:14:04

I'll give you an example of

1:14:06

a verbal virus. we will say

1:14:08

things like. You know, you go

1:14:10

to a health event and there's

1:14:12

a lot of people at the

1:14:14

health event that are looking for

1:14:16

health products, people that really, you

1:14:18

know, want to take care of

1:14:20

themselves, people that have an interest

1:14:22

in helping others in the health

1:14:24

space naturally. And I just used

1:14:26

the word that as a terrible,

1:14:28

terrible verbal virus because that is

1:14:30

referring to an object. I could

1:14:32

say correctly, a car that burns

1:14:34

gas, a car that wears its

1:14:36

tires out. a car that has

1:14:38

an accident and has to go

1:14:40

to the body shop, that's correct,

1:14:42

because a car is an object.

1:14:44

A person is a person, and

1:14:46

I would say people who love

1:14:48

to be healthy, people who are

1:14:50

here to serve. If I call

1:14:52

you that, I've objectified you, I

1:14:54

have not personified you. As soon

1:14:56

as I say people who, I'm

1:14:58

now identifying that person, that I'm

1:15:00

personifying the person, instead of objectifying

1:15:02

them. I love these and I

1:15:04

told you what mine was and

1:15:06

I know I did mine. I

1:15:08

know I did mine at least

1:15:11

once during the show because I

1:15:13

heard myself do it, but like

1:15:15

using the word, but after a

1:15:17

phrase that you said, because then

1:15:19

you just negated what you said

1:15:21

prior, I like to see when

1:15:23

can I use the word and

1:15:25

instead. And I know I use

1:15:27

but once during the show at

1:15:29

least. But there it is again.

1:15:31

We all still do it. We

1:15:33

all still, I still see verbal

1:15:35

viruses in my dialogue. A real

1:15:37

bad one is the word so,

1:15:39

so, um, is another one. You

1:15:41

know what I mean is another

1:15:43

verbal virus. You know what I

1:15:45

mean? In other words, if I

1:15:47

tell you something and then I

1:15:49

say, you know what I mean?

1:15:51

I'm actually subconsciously letting you know

1:15:53

that I think you're not very

1:15:55

bright and you probably didn't catch

1:15:57

what I was saying. You know

1:15:59

what I mean? And or I

1:16:01

just want you to understand. That's

1:16:03

another one. You know, the word

1:16:05

like, like, you know, that's a

1:16:07

verbal bias. I'm bad with that

1:16:09

one, for sure. I try. You're

1:16:11

cleaning it up all the time.

1:16:13

It's a practice. And who you

1:16:15

are is expressed from words. I

1:16:17

only know you by what you're

1:16:20

speaking about. I may recognize you

1:16:22

physically for your body language the

1:16:24

way you appear your persona that

1:16:26

way, but I don't know you

1:16:28

until we talk. So therefore our

1:16:30

language is required. to be very

1:16:32

clear, very concise, so that there's

1:16:34

no guessing about what we're talking

1:16:36

about. And I know you're tracking

1:16:38

with me. I don't have to

1:16:40

ask, does this make sense? You

1:16:42

know, does this make sense? I

1:16:44

say to people when they say

1:16:46

that to me, I said, well,

1:16:48

we're making dollars, not sense. Thank

1:16:50

you. I don't, pennies aren't very

1:16:52

worth it. Oh, man, I love

1:16:54

that. Oh, we didn't talk about,

1:16:56

we didn't talk about the, the,

1:16:58

the, the, the, the, the, the,

1:17:00

the, the, the, the, activator, activator,

1:17:02

activator, activator. Is that, activator. Is

1:17:04

that, activator. Is that, the, The

1:17:06

activator and the celeris is a

1:17:08

big one. So we can talk

1:17:10

about the activator. So the activator

1:17:12

is a little tiny tool that

1:17:14

lasts a lifetime and you has

1:17:16

a handle on it with a

1:17:18

metal rod and has a tiny

1:17:20

little hand on it that you

1:17:22

use instead of your actual hand.

1:17:24

Now you can use your actual

1:17:27

hand to do the treatment, but

1:17:29

it takes much longer. It usually

1:17:31

takes 10 minutes and you got

1:17:33

to do three treatments to get

1:17:35

the accomplishment. Or with the activator

1:17:37

you can do a five-minute treatment.

1:17:39

Now what I found out was.

1:17:41

The classical Chinese medicine does not

1:17:43

require any medicine. Traditional Chinese medicine

1:17:45

doesn't know anything about this. Traditional

1:17:47

Chinese medicine is more like diagnosis

1:17:49

with the tongue or the pulse

1:17:51

or the eyes, and then a

1:17:53

prescription of herbal medicines to remedy

1:17:55

something. The classical Chinese medicine does

1:17:57

not require any of those things.

1:17:59

And when you take the hand

1:18:01

and you slap one area of

1:18:03

your body steadily for five minutes,

1:18:05

all the carbon, all of the...

1:18:07

nano particulates that you breathe like

1:18:09

rubber dust and break dust, all

1:18:11

the dead blood and the dead

1:18:13

cells that are sitting dormant in

1:18:15

your body as you get older

1:18:17

are released and they're visibly released.

1:18:19

There's no question because you can

1:18:21

visibly see it. So for if

1:18:23

you have a bad joint, you

1:18:25

use the activator on the joint

1:18:27

like a knee, for example, you

1:18:29

would do eight, five minute treatments

1:18:31

on one knee and a week

1:18:34

later your knee is now repaired

1:18:36

because the body repaired it. The

1:18:38

activator doesn't repair anything. The activator

1:18:40

releases all the stuff that blocks

1:18:42

the healing and then it calls

1:18:44

attention to the brain to send

1:18:46

stem cells to that very specific

1:18:48

area because you created a trauma

1:18:50

site. And so I'm 66 years

1:18:52

old and my 67th year and

1:18:54

I had significant injuries in my

1:18:56

life, shoulders and knees particularly. And

1:18:58

it was a very bad situation.

1:19:00

I was like, wow. I may

1:19:02

have really good biological health, but

1:19:04

if I don't. have structural health,

1:19:06

what am I going to do?

1:19:08

Am I going to be a

1:19:10

broken old man with terrible knees,

1:19:12

with pain constantly, and I can't

1:19:14

do squats, and I can't run?

1:19:16

That's where I was at. And

1:19:18

with two knees, with eight, five-minute

1:19:20

treatments for each knee, I have

1:19:22

perfect knees within a week. That

1:19:24

was almost seven years ago now.

1:19:26

And I was blown away that

1:19:28

that actually worked, and I have

1:19:30

perfectly youthful knees. and all the

1:19:32

cartilage is back where it's supposed

1:19:34

to be. All of the joints

1:19:36

work perfect. I can do deep

1:19:38

squats. I can run around like

1:19:40

a kid. Same as my shoulders.

1:19:43

And then there's the whole organ

1:19:45

system where you have major meridian

1:19:47

energy pathways from the inside of

1:19:49

your elbows and the back of

1:19:51

your knees for your organs. The

1:19:53

inside of the left elbow, when

1:19:55

you slap that with the activator

1:19:57

for five minutes, all this stuff

1:19:59

comes out, it swells up and

1:20:01

burns and turns different different color.

1:20:03

and that releases all your heart

1:20:05

and your lungs. All the junk

1:20:07

in your heart and your lungs

1:20:09

starts to release. On your right

1:20:11

elbow, your liver, gallbladder, spleen, and

1:20:13

large intestine gets released. And you

1:20:15

feel 10,000 times better. The back

1:20:17

of your knees is your pancreas

1:20:19

and your kidneys. And the top

1:20:21

of your hands and the top

1:20:23

of your feet are your stomach

1:20:25

and your small intestine. So these

1:20:27

are profoundly effective. But the problem

1:20:29

is that it involves creating pain

1:20:31

because you think if I'm going

1:20:33

to slap my body, it's going

1:20:35

to hurt and burn and bruise

1:20:37

and swell up. Yes, it will.

1:20:39

then you go do it later

1:20:41

and it doesn't hurt or burn

1:20:43

or bruise or swallow up at

1:20:45

all. Because that part of your

1:20:47

body is completely fixed for your

1:20:50

life. It's a one and done

1:20:52

thing. So I've been working through

1:20:54

my whole entire body. Every square

1:20:56

inch of my body gets treated.

1:20:58

And until it's completely done, I'm

1:21:00

about 70% finished. Takes a long

1:21:02

time to do it because you

1:21:04

don't do it every day. You

1:21:06

could do it every day, but

1:21:08

I haven't done it every single

1:21:10

day. But varicose veins veins. All

1:21:12

kinds of different things have improved

1:21:14

dramatically from using the activator. And

1:21:16

my whole body got renovated in

1:21:18

the last seven years. Wow. This

1:21:20

actually, this really makes sense. I've

1:21:22

had Christian Japo on the show

1:21:24

a few times. He's the founder

1:21:26

of Stem regen, which is a

1:21:28

supplement to support endogenous stem cell

1:21:30

release. He knows so much about

1:21:32

stem cells. His book is, it's

1:21:34

the deepest dive in his stem

1:21:36

cells that you could ever read.

1:21:38

He says that... Like when you're

1:21:40

taking the supplement, something that you

1:21:42

can do is if you have

1:21:44

some sort of injury that you

1:21:46

in particular wanted to address, you

1:21:48

aggravate that area very similar to

1:21:50

what you're saying, because that signal

1:21:52

tells the body to send stem

1:21:54

cells to that area. So that

1:21:57

completely makes sense. So that coupled

1:21:59

with I didn't know that about

1:22:01

the like the particulate matter that

1:22:03

you're releasing as well. This is

1:22:05

so interesting. Okay, I gotta start

1:22:07

slapping myself. So cool. And then

1:22:09

you said the other one, this,

1:22:11

was it the... solaris or that

1:22:13

we didn't touch on? The solaris.

1:22:15

So that is a very profound

1:22:17

detoxification product. It's super gentle. You

1:22:19

don't get a herxheimer healing reaction

1:22:21

from it and it gently removes

1:22:23

all the garbage out of your

1:22:25

system that is interrupting the cellular

1:22:27

function in your body. And it

1:22:29

also works externally. It's made up

1:22:31

of clove, rosemary, and time. That's

1:22:33

the three major components in it.

1:22:35

And It's extracting the entire plant

1:22:37

top to bottom. It's not just

1:22:39

part of the plant. And it

1:22:41

also has all the plant esters

1:22:43

that are in there. So what

1:22:45

it does, it goes in and

1:22:47

dissolves heavy metals and microbial pathogenic

1:22:49

stuff in your body to get

1:22:51

rid of it. So your body

1:22:53

just simply expels it after it

1:22:55

conversed into inert matter. And it's

1:22:57

always used after iodine. So when

1:22:59

you take your iodine in an

1:23:01

empty stomach, You wait 20 minutes

1:23:03

and take the Salaris and the

1:23:06

Salaris goes in and helps to

1:23:08

clean up the operation after the

1:23:10

iodine released a whole bunch of

1:23:12

stuff. Because those things get trapped

1:23:14

in your cells and the Salaris

1:23:16

gets contact to those things. And

1:23:18

we've had people with life-threatening lesions

1:23:20

on their skin. I'm not going

1:23:22

to give the name of it,

1:23:24

but it will kill you. And

1:23:26

you put it on there every

1:23:28

day, two or three times a

1:23:30

day, and it's full strength. And

1:23:32

within two weeks. It blows it

1:23:34

up, dries it up, and then

1:23:36

it peels off and doesn't even,

1:23:38

it doesn't even leave a scar.

1:23:40

So externally and internally, it works

1:23:42

phenomenally well. You can also put

1:23:44

it in distilled water, very diluted.

1:23:46

You have to really dilute it,

1:23:48

like five drops in ten mills

1:23:50

of water, and you just put

1:23:52

drops in your eyes and people

1:23:54

have claimed, or they had different

1:23:56

eye problems. that they were able

1:23:58

to alleviate. And for dental,

1:24:01

it's powerful for dental. When you

1:24:03

switch it in your mouth for

1:24:05

a couple of minutes, you don't

1:24:07

get any more plaque. You get

1:24:09

rid of the plaque that's there

1:24:11

and it doesn't come back. It

1:24:13

cleans up the tongue. It's just

1:24:15

a phenomenal product. Okay. I have

1:24:17

a personal question. It will relate

1:24:19

to other people as well. So

1:24:21

if a person has just a

1:24:23

random rash, which I know happens,

1:24:25

I don't ever get rashes. And

1:24:27

I've had one on my collarbone

1:24:29

for a while. out of all

1:24:31

these different products, because you just

1:24:33

mentioned with that one that you

1:24:36

can, you know, use it on

1:24:38

skin things, how would a person

1:24:40

know, like, is there one that

1:24:42

I would start with to put

1:24:44

on that rash? You start up

1:24:46

with, you start up with, and

1:24:48

you start up with, and you

1:24:50

start up with, and you start

1:24:52

up with it, you can brush

1:24:54

your teeth with it. Yeah, it

1:24:56

foams right up, it's beautiful. And

1:24:58

then you would use black human

1:25:00

seed oil on that rash as

1:25:02

well. It'll just go away within

1:25:04

a very short time. Sometimes people

1:25:06

get rid of it in a

1:25:09

day. Okay, I'm doing this. I

1:25:11

mean, I have a list of

1:25:13

everything I'm doing. Which speaking of,

1:25:15

do you use all of these

1:25:17

products every day? Do you rotate?

1:25:19

Some of them, do you not

1:25:21

use? What's your personal routine? Well,

1:25:23

so over the years, I've become

1:25:25

so healthy that I don't require...

1:25:27

a daily use of the majority

1:25:29

of them anymore. The ones that

1:25:31

are absolutely essential every day is

1:25:33

the ease magnesium, because that's the

1:25:35

fuel and the iodine. Those are

1:25:37

essential. With the Salaras, I will

1:25:39

do a 90-day sprint, where I'll

1:25:41

take it for 90 days and

1:25:44

then I'll go off of it

1:25:46

for a while. Because once you

1:25:48

get the stuff out of your

1:25:50

system, you don't need to keep

1:25:52

doing that. And I have a

1:25:54

lifestyle that is extremely high level

1:25:56

that I've learned about over the

1:25:58

years. but it's a very advanced

1:26:00

thing. So I have now graduated

1:26:02

to an area where I don't

1:26:04

require all. those things anymore. They

1:26:06

help me all along the way.

1:26:08

And there's certain things I just

1:26:10

don't require because my body's completely

1:26:12

cleaned up and it functions extremely

1:26:14

well in every category. Awesome. Well

1:26:16

it definitely shows. I mean talking

1:26:19

to you and meeting you in

1:26:21

person, you're definitely walking the walk.

1:26:23

And I bet I bet listeners

1:26:25

are really eager to get these

1:26:27

different products. So thank you so

1:26:29

much for this. Listeners can actually

1:26:31

go to melonyavylon.com/activation aCTI-T-A-T-I-T-I-O-N and use

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1:26:37

So definitely take advantage of that.

1:26:39

Definitely stock up. I know I'm

1:26:41

like I said I have a

1:26:43

list of all the ones I'm

1:26:45

going to be getting and these

1:26:47

make amazing gifts for people. I

1:26:49

was looking for like presence for

1:26:52

people so a lot of these

1:26:54

products would be amazing for that.

1:26:56

Wow, thank you so much. This

1:26:58

has been so so incredible. Was

1:27:00

there anything else you wanted to

1:27:02

touch on to share with listeners?

1:27:04

I think we covered a lot

1:27:06

today and I was like to

1:27:08

avoid overwhelm as well so I

1:27:10

think we've really covered enough that's

1:27:12

very satisfactory. I agree which brings

1:27:14

us to our last question which

1:27:16

you already know because you asked

1:27:18

me what it is. It's just

1:27:20

because I realize more and more

1:27:22

each day the important of mindset.

1:27:24

So what is something that you're

1:27:27

grateful for? Well, the biggest thing

1:27:29

I'm grateful for are people who

1:27:31

are very interested in living a

1:27:33

super healthy lifestyle, and they're waking

1:27:35

up more and more and more

1:27:37

to take responsibility and accountability for

1:27:39

themselves. And I'm just super grateful

1:27:41

that that is increasing every single

1:27:43

day because we're all here to

1:27:45

serve each other and love each

1:27:47

other. And when we surround ourselves

1:27:49

with people... of like mindset that

1:27:51

our life improves and our quality

1:27:53

of life goes up every single

1:27:55

day. I cannot agree anymore and

1:27:57

I am so grateful for what

1:27:59

you're doing and like I said

1:28:02

at the beginning nobody else is

1:28:04

doing this. I mean, everything that

1:28:06

we talked about on this show,

1:28:08

it's so mind-blowing. It's so enlightening.

1:28:10

And these products, like, nobody else

1:28:12

is doing this. So thank you

1:28:14

so, so much for what you're

1:28:16

doing. I appreciate it. So, incredibly

1:28:18

much. Listeners, again, go to Melanie

1:28:20

Avalon.com/activation. Use the coupon code Melanie

1:28:22

Avalon for 20% off. And do

1:28:24

you have an email list or

1:28:26

how can people best follow your

1:28:28

work and all of the things?

1:28:30

And you're in your podcast. Yeah,

1:28:32

we do have, we have daily

1:28:35

emails of information that goes out

1:28:37

all the time. And we have

1:28:39

a podcast younger than yesterday that

1:28:41

I, where I interview very important

1:28:43

people, I've interviewed Christian. He's such

1:28:45

a fabulous guy. And he took

1:28:47

me deep dive into how he

1:28:49

understands that whole world. So there's

1:28:51

all kinds of really good information.

1:28:53

Also on Instagram, there's a lot

1:28:55

of free information there. This pertinent,

1:28:57

which is Ian Clark activated. on

1:28:59

Instagram and TikTok as well, just

1:29:01

Ian activated on TikTok. Awesome. Well,

1:29:03

we will put all that in

1:29:05

the show notes and again, thank

1:29:07

you so much for your time

1:29:10

and what you're doing and I

1:29:12

can't wait to hopefully see you

1:29:14

again at a future event. Yes,

1:29:16

we'll definitely run into each other

1:29:18

again. Melanie, thank you so much

1:29:20

for all your time and energy

1:29:22

and your love for people. You

1:29:24

too. Thank you Ian. Bye. Thank

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