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flip-flop from optimism to pessimism
6:02
set off a significant stock
6:04
market route. The S&P
6:06
500 fell on three
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consecutive trading days, August
6:10
1st, 2nd, and 5th, by
6:12
a total of 6.1%. The
6:16
replay of the mistakes I've witnessed for
6:18
decades was so obvious that I can't
6:21
resist cataloging them below. What's
6:24
behind the market's volatility? On
6:28
the first two days of August, I was
6:30
in Brazil, where people often asked me to
6:33
explain the sudden collapse. I
6:35
referred them to my 2016 memo on
6:37
the couch. Its key
6:39
observation was that in the real world,
6:42
things fluctuate between pretty good and
6:44
not so hot. But
6:46
in investing, perception often
6:48
swings from flawless to
6:50
hopeless. That says about
6:52
80% of what you need to know on the
6:54
subject. If reality
6:57
changes so little, why do estimates
6:59
of value, that's what security prices
7:01
are supposed to be, change
7:03
so much? The answer
7:05
has a lot to do with changes in mood.
7:09
As I wrote over 33 years ago in
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only my second memo, the
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mood swings of the securities markets
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resemble the movement of a pendulum
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between euphoria and depression, between
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celebrating positive developments and
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obsessing over negatives, and thus
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between overpriced and underpriced. This
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oscillation is one of the most
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dependable features of the investment world,
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and investor psychology seems to spend much
7:36
more time at the extremes than
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it does at a happy medium. First
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quarter performance, April 1991. Mood
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swings do a lot to alter
7:48
investors' perception of events, causing
7:50
prices to fluctuate madly. When
7:53
prices collapse, as they did at the start
7:55
of this month, it's not
7:57
because conditions have suddenly become a bad
7:59
thing. bad. Rather, they
8:01
become perceived as bad. Several
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factors contribute to this process. Heightened
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awareness of things on one side of
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the emotional ledger, a tendency
8:13
to overlook things on the other
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side, and, similarly, a tendency
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to interpret things in a way
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that fits the prevailing narrative. What
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this means is that in good
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times investors obsess about the positives,
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ignore the negatives, and interpret things
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favorably. Then, when the
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pendulum swings, they do the opposite,
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with dramatic effects. One
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important idea underpinning economics is
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the theory of rational expectations,
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described by Investopedia as follows.
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The rational expectations theory posits
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that individuals base their decisions
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on three primary factors, their
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human rationality, the information
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available to them, and
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their past experiences. If
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security prices were really the result
9:03
of the rational, dispassionate evaluation of
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data, presumably one piece of negative
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information would move the market down
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a little, and the next such
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piece would move it down a
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bit more, and so forth.
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But instead, we see that an
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optimistic market is capable of ignoring
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individual pieces of bad news until
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a critical mass of bad news
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builds up, at which time
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a tipping point is reached, the optimist
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surrender, and a rout begins. Rudiger
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Dornbusch's great quote about economics
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is highly applicable here. Things
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take longer to happen than you think they
9:41
will, and then they happen faster
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than you thought they
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could. Or, as my partner Sheldon Stone says,
9:48
the air goes out of the balloon much faster
9:50
than it went in. The
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non-linear nature of this process suggests
9:55
something very different from rationality is
9:57
at work. particular,
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as in many other aspects of life,
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cognitive dissonance plays a big part
10:05
in investors' psyches. The
10:07
human brain is wired to ignore
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or reject incoming data that is
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at odds with prior beliefs, and
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investors are particularly good at this.
10:18
While we're on the subject of irrationality,
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I've been waiting for an opportunity to
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share a screenshot from June 13, 2022.
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This was a tough day in the markets. Interest
10:30
rates were rising thanks to the actions of
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the Fed and other central banks, and
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asset prices were under significant pressure as
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a result. But
10:39
take a look at the table. Every
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country's equity index was down
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significantly. Every currency was down
10:46
relative to the dollar. Every
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commodity was down. Only
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one thing was up. Bond
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yields, meaning bond prices were
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down too. Aren't
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there one asset or country whose value
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didn't decline that day? What
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about gold, which is supposed to do well
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in difficult times? My
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point here is that during big
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market moves, no one
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performs rational analysis or makes
11:12
distinctions. They just throw
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out the baby with the bathwater,
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primarily because of psychological swings. As
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the old saying goes, in times
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of crisis, all correlations go
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to one. Further,
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the data in the table exhibit
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an additional phenomenon that's often present
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during extreme moves. Contagion.
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Something goes wrong in the US market. European
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investors take that as a sign of trouble, so
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they sell. Asian investors
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detect that something negative is afoot,
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so they sell overnight. And
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when US investors come in the
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next morning, they're spooked by the
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negative developments in Asia, which confirm
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their pessimistic inclinations, so they sell.
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This is a lot like the game of telephone we played
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when I was little. The message
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may be miscommunicated as it passed
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down the chain, but
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it still encourages ill-founded
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actions. When psychology is
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swinging radically, meaningless
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statements can be given weight. Thus,
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during the three-day decline earlier this month,
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it was observed that foreigners sold more
12:19
Japanese stocks than they bought, and
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investors reacted as if this meant something.
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But if foreigners sold on balance, Japanese
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investors must have bought on balance.
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Should either of these phenomena be treated as
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more significant than the other? If
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so, which one? Further
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complicating things in terms of rational
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analysis is the fact that most
12:43
developments in the investment world can
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be interpreted both positively and negatively,
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depending on the prevailing mood. In
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this cartoon, a man
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is sitting in his chair looking at a television
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screen, and from the screen
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the commentator is saying the following. On
13:02
Wall Street today, news of lower interest
13:04
rates sent the stock market up, but
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then the expectation that these rates would
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be inflationary sent the market down, until
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the realization that lower rates might stimulate
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the sluggish economy pushed the market up
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before it ultimately went down on fears
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that an overheated economy would lead to
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a re-imposition of higher interest rates. Another
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classic cartoon sums up this ambiguity
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in fewer words. It's
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highly applicable to the market tremor that
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inspired this memo. Again,
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a man is sitting in a chair watching
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a commentator on the television screen. Everything
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that was good for the market yesterday is no
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good for it today. One
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more source of miscalculation is investors'
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tendency toward optimism and wishful thinking.
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Investors in general, and equity
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investors in particular, must, by
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definition, be optimists. Who
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other than people with positive expectations?
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and or a strong desire for increased
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wealth would be willing to part
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with money today based on the possibility of
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getting back more in the future. Charlie
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Munger, Orrin Buffett's late partner,
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routinely quoted the ancient Greek
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statesman Demosthenes, who said, nothing
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is easier than self-deceit, for
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what each man wishes, that he
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also believes to be true. One great
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example is Goldilocks' thinking, the
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belief that the economy will be neither strong
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enough to bring on inflation, nor
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weak enough to lapse into recession. Things
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sometimes work out that way, as
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may be the case right now, but not
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nearly as often as investors posit.
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Expectations that incline toward the
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positive encourage aggressive behavior on the
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part of investors, and
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if this behavior is rewarded in good
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times, still more aggressiveness
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usually ensues. Rarely
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do investors realize that a, there
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can be a limit to the run of good news,
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or b, an upswing can be
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so strong as to be excessive, rendering
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a downswing inevitable. For
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years, I quoted Buffett as having
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warned investors to temper their enthusiasm.
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When investors lose track of the fact that corporate
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profits grow at 7% on average,
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they tend to get into trouble. In
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other words, if corporate profit growth
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averages 7%, shouldn't
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investors begin to worry if stocks appreciate by
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20% a year for a while, as
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they did throughout the 1990s? I thought
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it was such a good quote that I asked
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Buffett when he said it. Unfortunately,
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he answered that he hadn't,
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but I still think it's an important warning. That
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inaccurate recollection reminds me of
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John Kenneth Galbraith's trenchant reference
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to one of the most
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important causes of financial euphoria,
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the extreme brevity, of the financial
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memory. It's this trait
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that allows optimistic investors to engage
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in aggressive behavior, untroubled by knowledge
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of what such behavior led to
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in the past. Further,
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it makes it easy for investors
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to forget past errors and invest
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blithely on the basis of the
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newest miraculous development. Finally,
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the investment world might be less
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unstable if there were immutable rules,
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like the one governing gravity, that could be
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counted on to always produce the same results.
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But there are no such rules,
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since markets aren't built on natural
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laws, but rather the shifting sands
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of investor psychology. For
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example, there's a long-running adage that
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says we should buy on rumor
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and sell on news. That
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is, the introduction of favorable
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expectations is a buy signal,
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because expectations often continue to
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rise. That ends when
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the news arrives, however, because the
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impetus for gains has been realized
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and no further good news remains
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to take the market higher. But
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in the carefree environment of a month ago,
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I told my partner
17:08
Bruce Kars that maybe the prevailing
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attitude had become buy on rumor
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and buy on news. In other
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words, investors were acting as though it
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was always a good time to buy.
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Rationally, one shouldn't price in
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the possibility of a favorable
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event twice, both when
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the possibility of the event is introduced
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and when the event occurs. But
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euphoria can get the better of people.
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Another example of the absence of meaningful
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guidelines can be seen in this excerpt
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from one of the oldest clippings in my file.
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A continuing pattern of consolidation
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and group rotation suggests that increasing
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emphasis should be placed on buying
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stocks on relative weakness and selling
17:54
them on relative strength. This
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would be a marked contrast to
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some earlier periods where exercising relative
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strength proved to be effective. Loeb
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Roads & Company, 1976. In
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short, sometimes the things that have gone up the
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most should be expected to continue to go up
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the most, and sometimes the things
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that have gone up the least should be expected
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to go up the most. To
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which many of you might respond, duh.
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Bottom line, there are a few effective
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rules for investors to follow. Superior
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investing always comes down to
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skillful analysis and superior insight,
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not adherence to formulas and
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guidelines. Volatile
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psychology, skewed perception, overreaction,
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cognitive dissonance, rapid-fire
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contagion, irrationality, wishful
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thinking, forgetfulness, and the
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lack of dependable principles.
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That's quite a laundry list of ills. Whether
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they constitute the main cause of
18:57
extreme market highs and lows, and
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are responsible for the volatile swings between them.
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Ben Graham said that, in the long run,
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the market is a weighing machine
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that assesses the merit of each
19:09
asset and assigns an appropriate price.
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But in the short term, it's merely a
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voting machine, and the investor
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sentiment that moves its swings
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wildly, incorporating little rationality and
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assigning daily prices that often
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reflect little in terms of
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intelligence. Rather
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than try to reinvent the wheel, I'll
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repeat some of what I've said in two
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past memos. Especially
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during downdrafts, many investors
19:37
impute intelligence to the market
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and look to it to tell them what's going on and
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what to do about it. This
19:44
is one of the biggest mistakes you can make. As
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Ben Graham pointed out, the
19:49
day-to-day market isn't a fundamental
19:52
analyst. It's a barometer
19:54
of investor sentiment. You
19:56
just can't take it too seriously. Participants
20:00
have limited insights into what's really
20:02
happening in terms of fundamentals, and
20:05
any intelligence that could be behind their
20:08
buys and sells is obscured by their
20:10
emotional swings. It
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would be wrong to interpret the
20:14
recent worldwide drop as meaning the
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market knows tough times lay ahead.
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It's not easy, September 2015. My
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bottom line is that markets don't assess
20:25
intrinsic value from day to day, and
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certainly they don't do a good job during
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crises. Thus, market
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price movements don't say much about
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fundamentals. Even
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in the best of times, when investors
20:39
are driven by fundamentals rather than
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psychology, markets show what
20:44
the participants think value is rather
20:47
than what value really is. Value
20:50
is something the market doesn't know any more
20:52
about than the average investor. And
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advice from the average investor obviously
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can't help you be an above
20:59
average investor. Fundamentals,
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the outlook for an economy, company, or
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asset, don't change much from day to
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day. As a result,
21:09
daily price changes are mostly about a. Changes
21:12
in market psychology, and thus b.
21:16
Changes in who wants to own
21:18
something or unown something. These
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two statements become increasingly valid the
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more daily prices fluctuate. Big
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fluctuations show that psychology is
21:28
changing radically. What
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does the market know? January 2016. The
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market fluctuates at the whim of
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its most volatile participants. Those
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who are willing a. To buy at
21:41
a big premium to the former price
21:43
when the news is good and enthusiasm
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is riding high and b. To
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sell at a big discount from the
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former price when the news is bad
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and pessimism is rampant. Thus,
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as I wrote in on the couch, every
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once in a while the market needs a trip
21:59
to the shrink. It's
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important to note that, as my partner John
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Frank points out, in comparison
22:06
to the total number who own each
22:08
company, it takes relatively few
22:11
people to drive prices up during
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bubbles or down during crashes. When
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shares in a company that was worth
22:18
10 billion dollars a month ago trade
22:20
at prices implying a valuation of 12
22:22
billion or 8 billion, it doesn't
22:25
mean the whole company would change hands
22:27
at these prices, just a
22:29
tiny sliver. Regardless, a
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few emotional investors can move prices
22:34
much more than should be the
22:36
case. The worst thing you can
22:39
do is join in when other
22:41
investors go off on these irrational
22:43
jags. It's far better
22:45
to watch with bemusement from the sidelines,
22:48
buttressed by an understanding of how
22:50
markets work. But
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better still to see Mr. Market's
22:55
overreactions for what they are and
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accommodate him, selling to him
22:59
when he's eager to buy, regardless of how
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high the price is, and buying
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from him when he desperately wants out.
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Here's how Ben Graham followed the introduction of
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Mr. Market that I included in the beginning
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of this memo. If
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you are a prudent investor or a
23:15
sensible businessman, will you let
23:17
Mr. Market's daily communication determine your view
23:19
of the value of your $1,000 interest
23:21
in the enterprise, only
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in case you agree with him or
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in case you want to trade with him? You
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may be happy to sell out to him
23:32
when he quotes you a ridiculously high price
23:34
and equally happy to buy from
23:36
him when his price is low, but
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the rest of the time you will
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be wiser to form your own ideas
23:43
of the value of your holdings based
23:45
on full reports from the company about
23:48
its operations and financial position. In other
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words, it's the primary job
23:52
of the investor to take note when
23:54
prices stray from intrinsic value and figure
23:57
out how to act in response.
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