0:02

This. Day

0:05

A way to

0:08

say worries me.

0:14

Is ready. To

0:20

Canada we the show. On

0:24

Id say I. Guess

0:27

be a radio. Oh.

0:31

Yeah, here we are on a

0:34

Wednesday, January can totally totally for

0:36

do and great Michael Dunn Peter

0:38

lot of stuff to do next

0:41

five and oh and the oh

0:43

gee you're look great Yesterday Portland

0:45

was never even. It.

0:48

Was overly the or over early. Peter

0:50

Peter suggested I'd be out of it

0:52

early and I was, but rather watch

0:54

streaming service I want to bed. Work

0:58

out for a wonderful, Went. To

1:00

bed at nine thirty. Two. You do You feel

1:02

better refreshed? Not really. Well anyway. new, wasted your

1:05

time. No, no, no. But I mean our I

1:07

Will And you knew he wasn't going to be

1:09

a good lawyer because I don't. Ah, We

1:12

a lot of stuff to talk about. Pete. Carroll

1:14

is out. As. A head coach

1:16

of Seattle who little bit of a shocker.

1:18

Fourteen seasons there to Super Bowl appearances, one

1:20

when should have been to. They didn't hand

1:23

the ball off, they threw it, picked off,

1:25

Patriot got another shoot role. But the bottom

1:27

line is that's a shocker. That's.

1:29

A shocker. Now he's going be an

1:32

advisor in Seattle. Lot of people think

1:34

Dan Quinn who's a defensive coordinator for

1:36

the Cowboys used to coach the Falcons,

1:38

the As who lost a shoe bomb

1:40

on their money. eighty three with Dan

1:43

Quinn is the coach that he's headed

1:45

or ticketed to Seattle. Now everybody said

1:47

that a bell check in the Patriots

1:49

decide to part ways. They can be

1:51

teams lining up the get him. Well.

1:54

Then. I I guess you can't really

1:56

think of a Pete Carroll is old. Because.

1:59

The same age as. What You're getting: One

2:01

year older? Any looks, maybe twenty years

2:03

younger. So. You think he calls me

2:05

in the coaching carousel Mom who have a

2:07

high as as such that is a strange.

2:10

I'd. Be more excited! About.

2:12

Getting carol than I would be

2:14

Belgium? So strange. Please. Elaborate.

2:17

I just feel like carroll

2:19

is is closer still to

2:21

the. Real Pete

2:23

Carroll than Bell checked his i Feel off wherever

2:25

he wants them to bowser things over. To.

2:28

The doesn't feel like it works in his version

2:30

of weeks. I just don't happening again. Carol Carol

2:32

I've seen him and it was. They haven't been

2:34

the same over the last year certainly ah Madame

2:37

in the same talent wise either and he still

2:39

got a good stop at a player's you didn't

2:41

have a lot of at least overall our Geno

2:43

Smith Baba when no one else could. So.

2:46

I don't know, and I do like. I feel

2:48

like Carroll is still a little bit more of

2:50

a modern day coach than in Belgium is even

2:52

adults and the Governor of the there are a

2:54

big same age right? seventy two. That.

2:57

Guy thing thousand seventy one. But you

3:00

might be Rhodri over your target of

3:02

our oh, you're basically the same age

3:04

yes and he just looks more vibrant.

3:06

Of. His into it. Like. He

3:08

does not look his age at all right

3:11

now. It started out slow. Certainly.

3:13

Are not great with the Jets and then he

3:15

went to the Us. he came back in. He's

3:18

been one of the best coaches and when I

3:20

saw this the first thing I thought was are

3:22

who they want. They. They must

3:24

think they can upgrade of the going to

3:26

be and on bill are they going to

3:29

go dar they gonna throw their hammering Bill

3:31

for rom for arma are horrible know what

3:33

I'm saying I didn't see him as as

3:35

is that this feels like his home in

3:38

Novi could save the lateral move or mean

3:40

Quinn did not have success in in in

3:42

land of the way he wanted to and

3:44

certainly did a great job as a coordinator

3:47

in Dallas of these kind of save them

3:49

but. Ah to me that

3:51

be allowed a lateral move if you were

3:53

going to go after Harbaugh somebody else and

3:55

I get it. And if he just decided

3:57

he I had enough I want to retire.

4:00

Hard. And as a different story but. I

4:03

don't. I don't see him being that

4:06

guy. I don't I did not look

4:08

at Seattle and say boy, that's a

4:10

team that needs a different coach, a

4:12

different voice and think about what they

4:14

went through and they they they were

4:16

playing competitive every year they got younger.

4:18

They have survived that terrible Jamal Adams

4:20

trade and. They. Try to russell Wilson

4:23

seem like the right time. Got great stuff

4:25

out of Geno Smith either. He still a

4:27

tremendous close Will be interesting to see bigots

4:29

that isn't like he could sit back and

4:31

no beer. A television commentator for couple years?

4:33

this is too old to do that is.

4:36

oh you're one right away that kids can

4:38

be thousand a now if you're a Jets

4:40

fan. And you don't believe in

4:42

Robert Solow. The Robert Solow is hanging

4:44

around as is Joe Douglas because of

4:46

of our Rodgers. You feel good about

4:48

the fact that you're letting these coaches

4:50

that's a really make a difference like

4:52

might vary bone and and Pete Carroll

4:54

who's as yet close for like one

4:57

day one. when you're I'm you letting

4:59

them go by without taking them, have

5:01

taken a bite. Just.

5:03

Because Aaron Rodgers a mobile. Oh, that's what

5:05

I had said to you Michael at the

5:07

time. What you're telling me, you can't do

5:09

better. We always looks. At.

5:12

A coach losing his job as or he deserves

5:14

to be fired as if it's some sort of

5:16

a punishment for doing a bad job. Yeah.

5:19

A lot of times that's the case, but sometimes it's like I

5:21

think I can do better. And I

5:23

have a rubber soles of our toes. What are

5:25

some that look at these guys in their resume

5:27

And and Robert Solow? So my it's it's it's

5:30

tough to let them out there and you don't

5:32

even take a by other the op know I

5:34

you know you're mentioning like Zoe Quinn right now

5:36

I think that's a lateral move. If.

5:39

That but to don't all but if I could

5:41

given somebody that went went to a Superbowl. Oh,

5:44

you know, better than Robert Solow no offense

5:46

room with the around the same age. they

5:48

both have a defensive guys we wouldn't You

5:50

rather have Quinn and Solid just based off

5:52

the resume. But. You

5:54

put yourself in a situation where you're not

5:57

even on this carousel. a coach's as you

5:59

put it and you're telling me you don't

6:01

think you can do better now. Does he

6:03

deserve to be fired? His his grade incomplete.

6:05

Has there been a lot of reasons why

6:07

the Jets have an one? Would Robert Solow?

6:09

Absolutely. As I say, I'm not sure he

6:12

deserves to be fired by not letting him

6:14

go. I think you've missed some opportunities to

6:16

bruce. Seven teams now need closes and it

6:18

could be a arms if they decide by

6:20

the of the week about. Knowing.

6:22

When they funny of crafts and and Dallas

6:24

has have already met still nothing has been

6:26

decided. To balance it wants to stay. Now.

6:29

Agi that didn't want to say. And.

6:32

We're really going to start off with this. Is

6:35

Wigmore downsides of now officially part

6:37

of ways Chinese were serve? Have

6:39

no, I'm obligation to the three

6:41

million dollars that they owed him.

6:43

And he has no obligation and know where

6:46

that he didn't go. So.

6:48

I just think the way this played out down

6:50

and peter not a grail of the the Giants,

6:52

not a great love for depot And you know

6:55

what I surmise. Yesterday six a team up all

6:57

sorts of the New York Post wrote it. Your

7:00

they fired the the to Wilkins Brothers. Who.

7:03

A confidence of of length, And

7:05

we came in the brain table and and told

7:07

him go bleep himself slammed the door and left

7:09

and got on a plane out of Newark to

7:11

his home in Florida. Didn't. Really?

7:13

Actually Resign? But. I guess

7:15

what he wanted was exactly what he got. Free.

7:18

Rein to go every once in the Giants

7:20

are off from under the three million dollars

7:22

which I me what's the big your any

7:24

coordinator job that he got That's pretty much

7:27

the rate for sixty year old coordinator with

7:29

no pretty good skills and and Martin Del

7:31

so that when about anything anyway but the

7:33

Giants last staring at and the whole organization

7:36

doesn't look great is a source of it's

7:38

almost like you force Morton Dell's ends by

7:40

firing these two guys. but that doesn't free

7:42

weight mortadella either because when you read inside

7:45

the lines on this it seem like the

7:47

defensive side. Of the ball was going rogue

7:49

against able. And that's not right

7:51

either. Know said posted the team. So.

7:54

All of to me that can be a fire of an

7:56

offense that. like so that the reason i

7:58

think it's a bad look as if using little along

8:00

with them, you didn't want them to be here, then

8:02

fire them. Now the counter is

8:04

going to be what Jordan told us is well maybe it's

8:06

a case of we don't want them to go to Philadelphia.

8:08

We don't want them to go to the commanders. We want

8:11

to control where he goes. Well, I'm sorry, you can't have

8:13

your cake you needed to. If

8:15

you don't want them, let them go. Don't

8:18

force him to then resign so that

8:22

you can save yourself some money, that you have some

8:24

control on where he goes. You'll only have it for

8:26

a year. I mean we could just decide, alright listen,

8:28

I'll sit out for a year, get paid, and then

8:30

I'll go find a job elsewhere. I know he wants

8:32

to end up trying to be a head coach, which

8:34

you wouldn't be able to stop him from doing anyway.

8:38

So if you don't like him, if he

8:40

went rogue and defied you, well then fire

8:42

him. Don't you know

8:45

patty cake around with it, let

8:48

him go. It's also a bad look,

8:50

Don. If he and the

8:52

Wilkins brothers went rogue, that's another great look

8:54

for Dable. How do you not stop that

8:57

right away? This is going back to the

8:59

conversation of what happened in New

9:01

Orleans. This also goes back to

9:03

the conversation we had specifically about the Giants and

9:05

how he wore on the room and all that.

9:07

If I'm John Mara, I need to get to

9:10

the bottom of what's going on here. Even

9:12

if I believe Dable's the guy, why

9:15

are we having a really good defensive

9:17

coordinator leave? Why couldn't you

9:19

get along with him? Why was he going rogue?

9:21

Why did he disrespect you? They

9:24

both were great assistants in other places. Dable

9:28

becomes the head coach and now nobody really wants

9:30

to be around him. Your opinion

9:32

earlier in the week was tough, toughen

9:35

up. But this seems like it's more

9:37

of a not respecting the philosophy, not

9:39

respecting the position, which to me is

9:41

a fireable offense, but you

9:43

didn't fire him, you wanted him to resign. And

9:46

I need to get to the bottom of why Wink

9:48

wanted out the door. I want to get to the

9:51

bottom of why he's wearing on people. Even

9:53

if I believe in him, Michael, I need to know why a

9:56

really good, legitimate defensive coordinator who made

9:58

this defense really. really good by the

10:00

end of the season. Something I want

10:02

to see go beyond this season, walk

10:04

out the door because he didn't get

10:06

along with my head coach. I need

10:08

to know why that happened. No, we're

10:10

putting a lot of the

10:12

maybes on Dable, but it doesn't seem

10:14

like Martindale comes out of here smelling

10:17

all that great either. You don't defy

10:19

your head coach. So maybe it was

10:21

a problem that Martindale was to Dable. I

10:23

mean, we keep reporting that. The

10:26

rumors are that Dable is hard

10:28

to work with. Maybe Wink was because Wink

10:30

was running a rogue defensive outfit.

10:32

Now, one other thing that I've heard is

10:34

that the cowboy game where the Giants

10:36

got annihilated, Dable kept

10:38

telling Wink, just keep blitzing. And

10:41

the Cowboys kept putting up points. That

10:43

makes Wink's defense look bad. So Wink's

10:45

an aggressive defensive coordinator, but the

10:47

coach wanted him to continue to blitz. So maybe

10:49

there was a misunderstanding there. I can't

10:52

believe it's because he's harsh or that he

10:54

yells. Every NFL coach yells, but there seems

10:56

to be a disconnect between the two of

10:58

them. And so that's why I have

11:00

to find out why is there a disconnect. You're right.

11:02

Wink may be the issue. But then

11:04

if I'm John Mara, my question would be then

11:06

why wasn't he fired? Unless

11:09

John's the one telling him, listen, we don't want

11:11

him to go to Washington. We don't want him

11:13

to go in the Philadelphia. And if we can

11:15

get out of pain and let's do that and

11:18

let's get him to walk away and resign. Well,

11:20

maybe Dable thought that the problem was the two

11:22

Wolkans brothers. But remember, Martindale didn't leave the Ravens

11:24

in good stead either. True. But

11:28

he, everything looks

11:30

like they wanted him to

11:32

resign. Yes. Well,

11:34

it's a bad look for the journey. Well, why not

11:36

just fire him? I understand. I don't want him to

11:39

go to Philadelphia. I don't want him to go to

11:41

Washington. I get all that. But if he was defying

11:43

you, if he was disrespecting you and

11:45

you couldn't be with him, because Michael, if you

11:47

try to get him to resign, what if he

11:49

didn't? Stole the contract for another

11:51

year. So he would, what if he

11:54

decided to stick? All right, I'm not going to go. I

11:57

think that they would take that without the Wolkans. I've

12:00

never heard of the Wilkins before in the

12:02

last couple of days, so I'm not even

12:05

going to fake that I know what their

12:07

roles are or what role they played with

12:09

Martindale, but maybe they felt that they were

12:11

running a little fiefdom that wasn't listening to

12:14

Dable. Then I follow. I

12:17

mean, I can't get overly concerned because if you

12:19

think he's that good that he's gonna help Philadelphia

12:22

or that he's gonna help Washington or somebody else

12:24

in the division, then try to make it work.

12:26

He might help Dallas if Dan Quinn ends up

12:28

going to Seattle. But if that's, if he's so

12:30

good Michael that I'm afraid he's gonna go to

12:33

my competitor, don't I have to figure out some

12:35

way to make this work? Coaches don't have to

12:37

like each other. You

12:40

know, buddy Ryan and Mike did not get along.

12:42

And then eventually, well I mean, buddy Ryan left

12:44

for the Eagles. Right, but he went for a

12:46

head coaching job and the Giants would gladly see

12:48

Wink go for a head coaching position. But

12:51

so, but if you, if he's wearing on you, if

12:53

there's an issue with him and he's gone rogue on

12:55

you and disrespected you, Michael, then I think that's a

12:58

fireable offense. And I think even John Marrow would agree

13:00

with that. So you really think that if things were

13:02

that bad, you're gonna get all caught up in, oh,

13:05

but I don't want him going someplace. Let's force him to

13:07

resign. To me, that just comes across as real weak. Get

13:10

in his face. Try to figure it out. Try to make it

13:12

work or let him go. And I

13:14

also don't like the way the Giants went about

13:16

it where Dable met with the media, said that

13:18

he was letting go of McGahy. Letting go of

13:22

another coach as well. But

13:24

he didn't say anything about the Wilkins. He did not say

13:26

that he was firing that. He was a good coach, wasn't

13:28

it? Yeah, the offensive

13:30

line coach. Then he says, it's my belief that

13:33

Wink is going to be here. He

13:35

says that publicly. Then right after

13:37

the meeting with the media, he goes and fires the two

13:39

brothers. And he knows that

13:41

that's gonna set Wink off. He calls Wink

13:43

in and says, I'm letting them go. And Wink

13:46

says, go bleep yourself and leaves. So

13:48

why would you put it out to me and we believe

13:50

he's gonna stay? When you know that if you were gonna

13:52

get rid of the Wilkins, he wasn't gonna stay. It's

13:54

almost like you were painting a picture to make

13:57

Wink look like the bad guy. It's

14:00

It's not a good look and I can't pick a

14:02

side on this because I don't know. I don't know.

14:04

We don't know the dynamics of it. We don't

14:07

know but I have a tendency to just look

14:09

at the head coach. It's

14:12

ultimately he is the guy. So

14:14

the way it was going to get handled even

14:16

if Wink was not on point.

14:19

To me that still ultimately starts and stops

14:22

with the head coach and

14:24

this is not a great look. It

14:26

really wasn't. No matter how you cut it from

14:28

the saying, coming out and saying one thing,

14:30

then we learn something else, then we find out that's

14:32

not true, then you find out there's a screaming match

14:34

and a storm off. It's

14:36

not great for Dable. I don't think anyone could agree with what's good.

14:39

But to Michael's point on the Wink side, if he

14:41

was going rogue and doing what he wanted, that's not

14:43

right either. How's that allowed? Head coach has to be

14:46

the one to say what goes on. Well then fire

14:48

him. Well that's my ultimate point. You should have been

14:50

fired in the middle of the season if you were

14:52

rogue. That has to

14:54

come out. I'm firing him. Why are you firing him?

14:56

Because of course I'll tell you why because in the Dallas game

14:58

he defied me. And

15:00

I'm not having that. This is my team. It

15:03

sends a message to everyone that this is my team.

15:06

But when you do it the way

15:08

they did it, where fire is underlings,

15:10

get him to resign, that doesn't show

15:12

any strength to me. Really? That

15:15

shows weakness. What's $3 million to the Giants?

15:17

I mean, is you maneuvering to save that

15:19

money? And if I'm John Mara and

15:21

I'm really concerned that

15:23

this defensive mind is going to help another NFCE

15:25

team, aren't I going to get involved and say,

15:27

guys, you've got to work this out? Because

15:30

the Giants are not better today than they

15:32

were yesterday letting him go. Now we'll see

15:34

who eventually replaces him. Maybe

15:36

it's going to be Antonio Pierce, but maybe Pierce

15:38

re-ups in Vegas and then he doesn't become available. So

15:41

I don't know where they're going to go, but you tell

15:43

me the Giants are better now because of this? They've

15:46

got to figure it out. And if Wink

15:48

defied him, maybe just Wink's a bad guy.

15:50

Maybe Wink had one foot out the door.

15:53

Maybe he just didn't like it. Whatever it is,

15:55

that's a bad job. You shouldn't do that. But I

15:57

need to know why did it deteriorate to that point?

16:00

Everything they were singing Kumbaya last year it sounded like

16:02

when they're going to the playoffs. Then

16:05

all of a sudden you get off to a really bad start

16:07

and they can't stand each other. I need to know why. Why

16:09

is this happening? So if I'm

16:11

John Marrow I don't want to go hire another

16:13

defensive coordinator, give him a three year contract, and

16:16

then a year and a half in hear that

16:18

that guy doesn't want to be here. And that

16:20

guy's going rogue. And that guy can't get along

16:22

with Dable. So there is

16:24

a lot of behind the scenes dysfunction going

16:27

on that doesn't get, I think, enough pub

16:29

because, you know, the Jets always are

16:31

like, hold my beer. But there's

16:34

something going on here, man. And

16:36

they got to get to the bottom of it.

16:38

I'm not going to forget what happened at the

16:40

beginning of the season when they were embarrassing themselves.

16:42

And instead of me enjoying them getting better and

16:44

looking forward to next year, this is the garbage

16:46

you got to go with? It's

16:49

not good. All right. Now, this

16:51

is a Woodrow Wednesday. We'll have that at the end of the hour.

16:54

I promise everybody, because I can see the phone

16:56

calls already. Everybody wants to talk about this. It

16:59

looks like the Yankees and Marcus Stroman

17:02

might be moving closer to

17:04

an agreement. Yes. And

17:08

I'll give you a preview of what I'll say

17:10

at four o'clock. I can't believe this is happening.

17:13

This is almost the opposite of the Giants

17:15

situation. Now, this is where I

17:17

respect the Yankees. They probably don't like Stroman.

17:20

They probably know the things that he said and

17:22

he tweeted. And they're probably going to

17:24

hold their nose. But they ask the

17:26

question, does he make us better? And

17:28

if the answer is yes, then you get over

17:31

all the other garbage. You know what? I think

17:33

that's a big question. Forget about the extracurricular stuff

17:35

where, you know, he's so active on social media

17:37

killing the Yankees. He's

17:39

got an ERA of about five and a half to six pitching

17:41

at Yankee Stadium. His last

17:43

10 starts with the Cubs and he

17:45

finished on the I.L. He had an

17:47

ERA of six. This

17:49

is a guy five years ago. You're making me

17:52

give my stuff off before o'clock. This is a

17:54

guy five years ago wasn't good enough to pitch

17:56

for you in the postseason. Now

17:59

He's five years old. There and given asylum

18:01

Fitzgibbon, at least using a brittle lot

18:03

of drama with him. Yeah.

18:05

It's like you know thyself said what.

18:07

You know what? We found out Rodgers

18:09

is leaving the Maccabees show but guess

18:11

what he might be side was the

18:14

idea. What The Airforce? Me: Marcus Stroman

18:16

because we will have drama on a

18:18

weekly weekly base. Do need pitching so

18:20

it's not so much when he's done

18:22

Michael, it's what has he done compared

18:24

to all your other options. While it

18:26

again I'm tipping my hand one, I'll

18:28

talk about it. Would you rather not

18:31

go? You go to the cheaper route.

18:34

Because. You can't even all get reservations

18:36

about Blink Smell. I think

18:39

that's a safer bet. The Marcus Stroman Mom sure that

18:41

you're on dumfries. A safer bet. Marcus Stroman a gallery

18:43

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18:50

it's it's a day that ends in why

18:52

am I right Peter that uses and yeah

18:54

right. So we gotta talk Aaron Rodgers more

18:57

news today.mcafee said he is not going to

18:59

be on the show. The recipe year are

19:01

well op op and so maybe. I'm

19:04

the jet season begins. And.

19:07

According to his remorse and post. He.

19:09

Was contracted to be through the playoffs

19:11

not to be came onto the idea.

19:13

I get that credit. Because. Pat

19:15

Mcafee show his own by Pat

19:18

Mcafee. And. Any kind of. Detroit.

19:20

Assess pulls down on Pat Mcafee, so

19:23

it's reflected on Pat Mcafee. He's gotta

19:25

protect his brand And what Rodgers is

19:27

done the last couple times is not

19:29

talk about sports, but talk about conspiracies

19:31

and stuff like that. Which I mean

19:34

it's it's it's a sport, so should

19:36

be death upon that We said he's

19:38

not going to be bad for the

19:40

rest of the football season and that

19:42

said, On. Time and glad about

19:45

that. Because. To became too much

19:47

for this Pat Mcafee who said it is

19:49

aware about sports and having fun Snyder of

19:51

E S P N. Pushed. Mcafee again

19:53

are they have the right to. but

19:56

i don't think that e s p n buddha

19:58

been that please because they have told And

20:00

they tell all of their talent, don't get political on the

20:02

air. That's not what this is about. And

20:05

the stuff that Rogers was saying, whether you agree with

20:07

it or not, was political. It

20:09

was political. So does

20:12

ESPN want on its

20:15

network, you know, a guy talking about

20:17

Jeffrey Epstein and the list

20:19

of pedophiles. So I

20:22

wonder if McAfee decided on his own.

20:24

I wonder if ESPN gave a helpful

20:26

push. But Rogers is

20:28

out. And if

20:30

the Jets are lucky, he is completely out and doesn't come

20:32

back next year. Not on the

20:34

Jets, but on the McAfee show. There's too much

20:36

drama. Too much drama. And I want

20:39

to play you a clip from our

20:41

National Morning Show. And

20:45

Dan Graziano was on. And

20:47

I mean, this is about as harsh as you could be.

20:50

Here's Dan talking about

20:52

Aaron Rodgers and what he thinks Aaron Rodgers is.

20:55

I think Aaron's sort of living

20:57

down to his reputation in a lot of

20:59

ways as an attention-hungry, you know, self-absorbed individual

21:02

that, you know, you hear a lot of

21:04

things about how he's been in the Jets

21:06

building since he got there and they're positive.

21:08

You know, con artists can be

21:10

very convincing. And

21:12

I think if he's got the Jets fooled about

21:15

who he is, then that's too bad for them.

21:17

And eventually they'll pay the price for it. But

21:19

he's obviously a liar and

21:22

a narcissistic con artist who

21:25

is bad for everything he touches. And I think

21:27

ultimately the Jets will pay the price. I

21:29

mean, that's pretty strong stuff. This is

21:32

a respected guy who is

21:34

not a hot take artist. Dan's not a hot

21:36

take artist. Called him a con man

21:38

and a liar. And

21:40

he's fooling the Jets within the building. So

21:43

I don't know if it's everything Aaron Rodgers

21:46

touches dies. But the Jets

21:48

have to be really, really careful. And they've

21:50

got to really cross every single finger and

21:52

toe that this guy returns

21:54

to his greatness. Because if he

21:56

does it, what an absolute abomination mess this

21:59

is. But McAfee says

22:01

he will not appear on the show for

22:03

the rest of the NFL season. That is

22:05

pretty seismic, guys. I guess

22:07

I'm trying to... It

22:11

feels like a work to me. How so? It

22:14

just seems like... I

22:16

wonder if anyone was

22:19

surprised by this decision. What

22:21

I'm saying is, I wouldn't go as far as

22:24

calling it seismic because I think Pat

22:27

is a rational human being and very tactical

22:29

and smart. Rodgers, as

22:31

we've talked about a lot, is a smart guy. Don't

22:33

even think they just realize there's no place really to go from

22:35

here. This thing had now

22:38

escalated into all kinds of other things

22:40

between the show and ESPN. It just

22:42

seems like it was

22:44

almost a no-brainer for everyone. What

22:46

do you hope to gain the next week? They

22:49

couldn't... Pat couldn't have gained more. The

22:51

amount of press and attention they'd gotten from

22:53

it is basically impossible to match.

22:56

Oh, I think you can match it. I don't know if you

22:59

could beat it, but you can continue to bring in big numbers

23:01

every Tuesday and I think they felt

23:03

that the juice wasn't worth the squeeze. This

23:06

is too much negativity involved. But that's for

23:08

everybody. That's even for Rodgers, though. I don't

23:11

think Rodgers cares about that stuff. What's today,

23:13

Wednesday? On

23:15

Wednesday, you're so concerned about the relationship with ESPN.

23:18

Wasn't it Friday when he went after Norby? Or

23:20

Thursday? Less than a week ago.

23:23

So that was ESPN on ESPN crime going after

23:25

an executive like Norby who's been there 35 years.

23:28

But now you're making ESPN,

23:31

the product look bad by talking about

23:33

conspiracy theories that have no basis really

23:35

in fact other than stuff

23:37

that Rodgers has read. That's

23:39

not a good thing for ESPN to have to

23:42

carry on its airwaves. Well exactly. It becomes a

23:44

really tough argument for anyone to try to win.

23:48

So I don't know. I just feel like Pat

23:50

is ultimately so smart. I feel

23:52

like he wouldn't have done this unless the timing was

23:54

exactly right where he got the most out of it

23:56

for the show and it makes sense to move on.

24:00

McAfee came off going after Norby.

24:03

If you looked at the responses and

24:05

the reaction from people is that McAfee

24:07

can't be stopped. He's bigger than ESPN.

24:10

ESPN needs him more than he

24:12

needs ESPN. Well, that all goes

24:15

away if you acquiesce to something

24:17

that they said because of what happened yesterday, if you're

24:19

all in on doing whatever you

24:21

want then this shouldn't bother you. If

24:24

you're bigger than ESPN then all of a

24:26

sudden you went after Norby, you didn't care.

24:28

Well, so why was all of

24:30

a sudden crossed yesterday? Now you're gonna listen

24:32

to him, now you're gonna worry about the

24:34

relationship? Well, also yesterday, Foss got taken down

24:36

or like got, you know,

24:38

eviscerated by Rogers. Rightfully I have no

24:41

idea but it doesn't feel, Foss did

24:43

the right thing by protecting ESPN and

24:45

then Rogers goes after him. So,

24:48

I mean, that's not Norby, that's another

24:50

guy who actually, this show is under his office.

24:52

All I'm saying is that if he did it,

24:54

if he went after Norby to show the world

24:56

that he's bigger than ESPN then all

24:59

that went away by doing this. I

25:01

don't think so though. He went after Norby.

25:03

Rogers went after Foss and Rogers is spewing

25:05

the conspiracy theories. Right. He's the one that's

25:08

decided that I'll take Rogers off or has

25:10

he been punched. Yeah, but

25:12

Roger, but Pat deciding to cool things

25:15

down now is not a

25:17

reflection I don't think on the whole thing that happened

25:19

with Norby. It's, I

25:21

think the Norby thing is separate. Yeah, I think

25:23

that's almost its own thing that happened. He didn't

25:25

back off of that even this week. He didn't,

25:27

he didn't back off of that. He now moves

25:29

on to this though which is another week that

25:31

like the temperature got turned up even more by

25:34

Rogers because in his attempt to sort of halfway

25:37

apologize he ends up going after another

25:39

executive within ESPN. It just might have

25:41

been, like I said, Pat being a

25:43

smart businessman and being like regardless of

25:45

where my future is I don't need

25:48

this to be an entire you-know-what show

25:50

every week when also I've gotten such

25:52

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25:54

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25:56

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26:01

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Please enjoy responsibly. Let's go

29:03

to JJ in North Carolina. JJ, start it

29:05

off. You

29:07

know, I've come to, I've been a heavy listener

29:09

to the show. I've come to notice little

29:11

things, and I've noticed me

29:14

having a certain fondness of Alex Lee and

29:16

missing her quite a bit. Our

29:20

arch rival, Brandi Scott, has kind of

29:23

been ripping you guys and not being

29:25

too polite to the parties or anything,

29:27

but I just wanted to say Alex

29:29

Lee was great. Yeah, Brandi's not invested,

29:31

Alex was. I

29:36

wanted to get your guys' opinions, and I wanted to

29:38

maybe open it up to the listeners too, giant fans.

29:41

What are you hosting the show now? I

29:43

just want to know what people think. I don't mind. All right,

29:45

Michael, take it easy. I heavily believe in Justin Fields and

29:47

that they should move off of him. So

30:00

we've been mad at both? No,

30:03

I don't they should fire him too Thank

30:07

God they fired the offensive coordinator, but anyway

30:10

thinking that He's

30:13

the guy few Giants fans believe they

30:15

they want a quarterback and would they

30:17

be willing to give up multiple maybe

30:19

first-round picks and a decent player to

30:22

trade with the Bears and Move

30:24

up four spots and maybe with the commanders

30:26

do it Peter moving up one spot to

30:28

get their guy but

30:31

I also wanted to Your

30:33

guys opinion on that and to see and wanted

30:36

to know if you guys think the Bears should

30:38

move off of fields in The first place or

30:40

stick with him thinking that he hasn't really had

30:42

much talent Maybe get Marvin

30:44

Harrison. He had a better offensive line. I think he

30:46

will be a stud Well,

30:49

I mean the decision with fields. It's two

30:51

prong Do they think that he's the guy

30:53

number one and if they're not

30:55

sure he's the guy Then you should

30:57

pick a quarterback as you reset the clock The

30:59

time to win in the NFL is to have you

31:01

quarterback on a rookie contract Because after

31:03

the contract you've got to pay him serious money. So

31:05

you have them five years cheap Well

31:08

fields was coming up on the time where they have to extend them So

31:11

do they think that he's the guy if they think

31:13

he's the guy then trade the pick now as for

31:15

the Giants It seems like they're all in on Daniel

31:17

Jones Well,

31:19

I mean the amount of capital to move from six

31:22

to one It's gonna be

31:24

what Carolina had to do last year with the Bears,

31:26

but if you want a quarterback Don't

31:29

you want to have the ability to take whatever

31:31

quarterback you want? Yeah, they did it with Eli

31:33

Yeah, I don't worry about all of that You

31:36

know if they want Caleb

31:38

Williams and they know that he's not gonna

31:40

go beyond one Is there

31:42

anything that they can give that to be too much

31:44

if they believe he's the guy then you go back

31:46

to Eli What do they give up they gave up

31:48

what some picked it ended up being Shawn Merriman The

31:51

kicker that they had there for a long time was a cading

31:53

You know, they gave up a lot, but they got a

31:56

quarterback to let them to two Super Bowl So nobody cares

31:58

what they gave up. So I

32:00

don't know, well who won their rosters untouchable

32:03

anyway? I don't know if you're

32:05

going to have to give up a Dexter Lawrence to get

32:07

it done. I don't think that any bodies would be exchanged.

32:09

It's all going to be about picks. It'd

32:11

probably be your first round pick, which

32:13

is 6th overall. The two second

32:16

round picks that you have for next year,

32:18

that might be the starting point. And then

32:20

you've got to give next year's first round

32:22

pick like Carolina did. But again, Michael, if

32:24

you think Caleb Williams is the guy, then

32:26

wouldn't you do that? Now if

32:28

you're not sure, then obviously you're out. But

32:33

if the Barrisons, Caleb Williams is the guy, then keep it

32:35

and get what you can from Field. Well

32:37

you heard what we said yesterday,

32:40

Mel Kiper thinks that there's still

32:42

something there with Field. I

32:44

think Field is a decent player. You look at his stats, he's

32:46

very pedestrian, but he hasn't been on a very good team. He

32:49

hasn't won a lot of games, but you know, he's low

32:52

60s completion percentage. In the last two

32:54

years, he's thrown more touchdowns than interceptions.

32:57

But he's also been sacked

32:59

99 times the last

33:01

two years. So there's a lot going on

33:03

there with Chicago that if they can strengthen

33:06

it, you're bringing the coach back, right? So

33:09

if you're bringing the coach back, what does that tell you?

33:12

That tells me they're probably going to take

33:14

a quarterback, right? I mean, why are you

33:16

running all this back unless there's going to

33:18

be some change you think Iber Flus is

33:20

going to be allowed an influence on? Yeah,

33:22

but I disagree with you. Because if you're

33:25

keeping Iber Flus, do

33:27

you give him another chance at another quarterback

33:29

and then you've got to keep him for

33:31

three years? You can't just bring in Williams

33:33

and then fire Iber Flus next year. I

33:35

think Iber Flus means that Field is going

33:37

to stay. Here's what I'll say about Fields.

33:40

He was a 22-year-old coming out. So

33:43

he's only 25 years old. And

33:47

that second year where he was able to play

33:49

15 games, the team wasn't,

33:52

you know, the team was bad. He had three and

33:54

12 in the games that he

33:56

started. But he threw 17 touchdown pads, 11

33:58

interceptions. was voted ninth

34:01

in MVP that year. I mean

34:03

there's stuff there but are

34:05

you are you ready to give them a contract? It

34:08

really just comes down to how they feel. That's the one thing we

34:11

don't know. We don't know how they feel about the quarterbacks coming out

34:13

and same thing with the Giants. If they think that Caleb Williams

34:16

is the guy, is

34:18

there enough to is there anything

34:20

you wouldn't give up to get a chance at him? But

34:23

the bad thing about the Giants though is

34:26

that there are many pieces away. So

34:28

if you give up so much draft capital

34:31

that you've compiled and you get Caleb

34:33

Williams, you still have a terrible offensive line and

34:36

you got Daniel Jones missing 40 million dollars an

34:38

extra. But I don't think you necessarily have

34:41

to use high draft picks to

34:43

fix the offensive line. They've tried that. Alright,

34:45

their offensive line is littered with high draft

34:47

picks that haven't worked out. There's

34:50

got to be other ways to build an offensive

34:52

line Michael. You know whether it's free agency or

34:54

just getting a better coach to coach them up

34:56

and they've got an opportunity to do that this

34:58

year. You know holding on to all these picks

35:00

and continuing to use the pick. Where was Flowers

35:03

taken? Where was Pew taken? You know Thomas looks

35:05

like he's worked out but you know everybody on

35:07

that line was a first or second round pick

35:09

right or third round pick. They've been

35:11

there. They've done that with these offensive line and

35:13

Michael. I need a quarterback and

35:16

you can't tell me they're all in on Daniel Jones

35:18

because they've got an out at the end of this

35:21

year. Well I mean that was just to

35:23

make sure that they have an out. But I

35:26

believe that they really believe in this guy. I mean you

35:29

heard what Mel Kiper said too. I believe that they believe

35:31

in the guy. But not. And I also agree with what

35:33

you say. Let's say if you think he's just the cat's

35:35

meow he's great. A major

35:37

knee injury and two neck injuries. You're really all in?

35:39

I don't know how they can be all in Michael.

35:41

They put that out for a reason because they wanted

35:44

to see. You know they they gave

35:46

him what seemed to be a lot of money for

35:48

his skill set but 40 million dollars for a quarterback

35:50

is not a lot of money. Now if you believe

35:52

that this is the future they had to know that

35:55

that contract was going to age well as far as

35:57

the money that other quarterbacks were going to get. does

36:00

not look that crazy compared to what quarterbacks are

36:02

going to get during the length of that deal.

36:05

But they created the out because they

36:07

didn't draft him. Dave will only coach

36:09

them the one year. They were probably

36:12

okay with him but not really sure and this was

36:14

supposed to be the year, the

36:16

next two years to convince them that the

36:18

last two years he'd still stay a giant.

36:20

Well, basically you threw away the first year,

36:22

he's been hurt and ineffective. Now

36:25

you go into next year, Michael, he's

36:27

got to put up or shut up. What

36:30

would you bet? I like Daniel Jones

36:32

but right now if you're a betting man, are you going

36:34

to bet that he's going to set

36:36

the house on fire and you're going to be in love with

36:38

him the final two years of the contract or are going to

36:40

be sitting here a year from today and say, good thing

36:43

they got an out in the contract? What would you bet? I'd

36:47

bet that they'd be happy to get out of the contract. Me

36:49

too. No, no, I think that they'd like him to be great.

36:51

No, no, they're not going to like the contract. What do you

36:53

think is going to happen? Right. What do

36:55

I think is going to happen? Yeah. He's going

36:57

to be okay but he won't be great enough for them to pick up

36:59

the contract. Joe

37:01

Shane has to say to himself, I've

37:04

got to bet and the way he's betting is not

37:06

with money, it's with his first round pick. If

37:09

he believes he's going to bet that he's

37:11

going to be great and he's going to

37:13

finish his career with the Giants, then you

37:15

have no need to draft a quarterback. But

37:17

Michael, if he's thinking the other way, then

37:20

the bet has to be I've got to

37:22

pick a quarterback. He can't go into next

37:24

year with Daniel Jones who

37:26

hopefully will be ready for camp and

37:29

Tommy DeVito. Basically, the

37:31

Bears and the Giants have the same thing.

37:33

You have to just decide, are

37:36

you in love with a quarterback that's

37:38

available? That's what

37:40

Kuyper said to us yesterday. If

37:42

the Bears are in love, for example, with

37:45

Caleb Williams, then you move on

37:47

from Justin Fields. And I think of

37:49

the Giants in a similar way. If after three

37:51

or four seasons you're still doing calculations about

37:54

whether or not it could work and you have

37:56

the option to do something you know you definitively

37:58

like better, it's It seems

38:00

irresponsible to not do that. You're

38:02

so right because this current regime

38:04

for the Bears didn't draft fields.

38:08

Let's go to Griffin and Connecticut. Same thing. Oh,

38:11

Griff. Hey, guys. Hello.

38:14

Hey. Don,

38:18

you were 100% right when you

38:21

were talking about the Pete Carroll

38:23

thing. I

38:25

don't get it. I

38:27

saw that news today when I was watching

38:30

SportsCenter. I don't

38:33

get it because are you talking...would

38:35

they have done this if the Packers lost

38:37

to the Bears? Because they would have been

38:39

playing this weekend. So would they

38:42

have done it if they made the playoffs or

38:44

is it because they missed it? I just don't

38:46

know. To

38:48

me, it didn't look like Pete

38:50

Carroll that they

38:52

need to make a change with Pete Carroll.

38:55

I also don't get Tennessee firing Mike

38:57

Rayble. I don't like that idea. I

39:00

really don't. Well, you know, Rayble has been

39:02

bad the last two years. He was great

39:04

the three years before that. So I mean,

39:06

you could almost...not that I approve of them

39:08

firing Rayble, but you understand that this one

39:10

doesn't make sense other than Carroll's age. Yeah,

39:14

I know. I

39:17

don't get that one. And another

39:20

quick thing, Peter, I don't want to get

39:22

into anything on to your ENM. I

39:25

don't know if you have... You're fine. It's 343. Eric

39:30

Spostra getting that contract. You

39:33

guys think he's worth everything

39:35

about contract? I think he is. I

39:38

think he is. And how much do you

39:40

love the Heat for waiting for his divorce to

39:42

be final? He loves

39:44

the Heat for that. Will Hallard, senior,

39:47

calls me out and he's right. When people call me

39:49

out and they're right, they're right. I

39:51

said there are no locals playing tonight. St.

39:53

John's has taken a Providence at 630 at

39:56

the Garden. That's a local. I should

39:58

have mentioned that. apologize

40:03

It's a local All

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41:34

uncomfortable no, I don't think I

41:36

could really but she's total sports

41:39

Time's incriminating. Hold on. Hold on. Let's

41:42

not be rash Don hold

41:44

on. Don't answer yet. No, Michael K

41:46

show favorite Michael. You're such a chime.

41:49

It's No, would you again

41:51

we play it off the air all the time

41:53

the wood you get? Yeah, it's a

41:55

Wednesday staple and here we go I'm

41:57

gonna give you a couple of quick hits. So

41:59

let's not overly debate these quick hits and

42:02

I think this first one could be different for

42:04

each guy. Would you rather be deaf

42:06

or blind? Peter loves music.

42:08

Yeah, that's an easy one for me too. I'd rather

42:11

be blind. You'd rather be blind? Yeah.

42:14

Oh, I think I'd rather be deaf. I'm

42:16

going there anyway. No way, man. I can't

42:18

not listen to music anymore and

42:20

the thing is, Peter, I've

42:22

said this before, at least you can

42:25

describe things to me. I know what my wife

42:27

looks like. My kids. You could describe

42:29

colors to me in my mind. I can picture it

42:32

but hey, you want to hear that new song, I'll

42:36

never be able to hear it. Peter? Well,

42:39

here's the way I look at it. A,

42:41

I need to hear to be

42:44

able to do my job, the

42:46

only thing that I have any skills at whatsoever. And

42:50

two, my favorite

42:53

thing to look at, I

42:55

enjoy touching just as much. Don,

42:57

you heard what I'm saying? I hear what you're saying.

43:00

All right, so here's a good follow-up, would you? Would

43:03

you rather lose your sight or

43:05

all of your memories? My

43:08

sight. Memories are really important.

43:10

You can't lose all your memories. You have no life. I

43:13

got to tell you, you can make the case

43:15

that everything we do is more for the memory.

43:18

When you do things in real time,

43:20

it's over pretty quick, right? It's a

43:23

great show, great game, but it's the

43:25

memory that lives forever. So

43:28

basically, I'm a goldfish. I'd watch something. I'd experience it.

43:30

No, but you build up new memories, I'm saying. But

43:32

I'm 55 years old, Michael. I

43:34

mean, there's a lot of things that have happened that

43:36

get me through the day. You got to

43:38

build a portfolio. You're taking the portfolio

43:40

away. All right, would you eat a severed

43:44

human finger for

43:46

$100 million? Yes. What the... As

43:49

a matter of fact, I'd enjoy it. The

43:54

interesting thing about this wood is you

43:56

upped the number from dead

43:59

animal carcass. Yes. Right.

44:02

For human fingers so much. Yes. I

44:05

think I'd rather eat a finger than an animal carcass.

44:07

I think that's right. I think, Don, like you're right.

44:09

I don't know. Would you rather

44:11

be stressed out all the time?

44:14

Or sad all the time? So would you rather

44:16

be Michael K. Or

44:18

Michael K. That's a great point by you. Um,

44:22

stressed out or sad? Stress. You'd rather

44:24

be stressed. Yeah, sad is out. You

44:26

gotta be stressed. Of course. This

44:29

one's gonna... I've done both. It's not

44:31

great. This is gonna really make you

44:33

think. Would you rather wear wet

44:36

socks? Oh boy. For

44:38

an entire year. Wet socks for

44:41

a year. Or have a kernel of

44:43

popcorn stuck in your teeth for an

44:45

entire year. Popcorn. Yeah,

44:47

the popcorn. Oh, that's so

44:49

annoying. I can make that work for me though. I

44:53

don't know if I can make it work. Yeah, just

44:56

cause you never... Cause it can kinda distract you. But

44:59

the wet sock... You can't.

45:01

It's unbearable. Now is it the

45:03

same wet socks all year or do I just replay

45:05

every day I get up? The wet socks all year.

45:07

Oh, that's... I thought maybe at the end of

45:09

the day I just put... When I get up in the morning

45:11

I just put on another pair of wet socks. Alright.

45:15

Then I gotta go more with the kernel cause

45:17

now not only are the socks wet, they'll stink.

45:20

They'll affect how I am around people. Would

45:23

you rather be

45:25

caught? Making

45:27

yourself happy. Mm-hmm.

45:31

By one of your parents or

45:33

your boss. So

45:37

Tonka Truck is what you're saying. Yeah. Playing

45:40

with the Tonka Truck? No, boss. You'd

45:42

rather be the boss, really. But then your... That

45:45

opens up a whole... Yeah, but you could lose the...

45:48

Are you gonna lose your job? I wouldn't lose this job. I

45:50

mean, you might get a promotion. Well,

45:53

that's a strong take. You might get a promotion.

45:57

Oh my... I guess you gotta go boss,

45:59

but if there's... Oh, I... ramifications of

46:01

your parents are going to get all right so

46:04

what's your answer because I got something quick I

46:07

think I think you actually got to go parents all right this

46:09

is gonna be bad and you want to dump me fire me

46:11

whatever but it has to be asked so you

46:13

already pictured what Michael asked so I don't have to repeat

46:16

it so

46:18

you walk on me you walk in on me doing

46:20

it in the studio yeah start

46:22

of the show yeah I

46:25

go bill o'reilly you're not you're

46:27

angry oh like the

46:29

instinct is gonna be your how how

46:31

how dare you does

46:33

your opinion of me and does

46:36

your reaction change if

46:38

I'm crying while I'm doing it well

46:41

first I wouldn't be angry if you have I walked I just

46:44

turn around walk out I

46:47

wouldn't be angry okay how would not be

46:49

angry I would I would want to punch

46:51

you and when you wanted it why had

46:53

no it was disrespectful but

46:55

you want your boss well you

46:58

guys you guys know I have a story you

47:00

guys know I have a story like that you remember the story no

47:03

yeah you don't remember the story no

47:06

a few months after the baby

47:10

period yeah I

47:13

went on a friend trip

47:17

and it was a trip that I used to do

47:19

previously I remember this story with my ex so I

47:21

was like I was my first trip now on my

47:23

own so it was already a bummer instead of being

47:25

among the couples who get a room together I'm now

47:27

among the single losers who have to like bunk up

47:30

together yeah and I ended up

47:32

bunking up with someone and and

47:35

and I'm going to bed in this room and

47:37

I'm watching highlights I'll never forget it

47:39

cuz it's etched into my brain I'm

47:42

on my phone you guys remember the

47:44

day Kaepernick tried out for the the

47:46

in Atlanta oh yeah I'm on ESPN

47:48

comm watching the Kaepernick highlights and

47:51

I just see a very sharp movement and

47:53

a light from next to me and

47:57

in the same room that I'm in the person who was sharing

47:59

the room with me was

48:01

doing what... That's a desperate man. Yeah,

48:04

it's a sad man. Or a woman. Yeah, but you

48:06

know, it's where he was in at

48:08

least a place where that usually gets done. Okay. I

48:11

hear you. I'm not talking about walking into a studio where people

48:13

can come in now. I hear you, but Don, don't try to

48:15

make it sound like it's more different. No, it's still... I agree.

48:17

Yours is worse, Peter. And by the way, the worst part

48:19

of that story? Bear

48:23

was stranded up on the same bed as this person.

48:27

Well, maybe Bear was providing the... No,

48:29

you know what? Don't be sick. This is

48:31

already traumatic enough. All right, this is from

48:33

Anthony Greek. All right. In their

48:35

primes, would you rather be

48:37

hit in the head with a Nolan Ryan fastball wearing a

48:40

helmet or take one punch from

48:42

Tyson in the ring while wearing headgear? No,

48:44

the Nolan Ryan. No, the Tyson. Oh,

48:46

the punch from Tyson? No, no. I

48:49

like how neither one of you can say this confidently.

48:51

I don't like both of you being

48:54

like a sure of one or the other. Even a

48:56

Nolan Ryan 100 miles an hour in the helmet could

48:58

kill you. With the helmet on? Yeah.

49:01

You don't think the Tyson punch could break your

49:04

neck with headgear on? With headgear on? With headgear

49:06

on? Tyson was a beast, man, and it's

49:08

within a half a foot of you. And

49:10

obviously we're saying one that catches clean. It's

49:12

not a glancing shot. It's a absolutely clean

49:14

Nolan Ryan. I don't know that Nolan

49:16

Ryan. What is that about? 101 and a half? Something

49:20

like that. All right, very quickly. Would you

49:22

rather have a big house in the middle of nowhere? A

49:24

gigantic house. Let's call it a mansion. Or

49:28

a small little studio apartment in a bustling

49:30

city. Oh, no, the mansion

49:32

away from everybody. I agree. I guess.

49:35

I don't want to. Do I really have to do the would you? It's

49:37

my life. I already decided. So

49:39

which one? Where do I live? It's a little

49:41

tiny apartment. With all the rest. I

49:44

should certainly exchange my apartment for something better

49:46

far away. But I can't. All

49:48

right, one final one. Would you rather

49:50

get rich in a way that

49:52

disappoints the people who love you? Let's say

49:55

run Pornhub, something like that. Or

49:57

make just enough money to live. Nothing

50:03

illegal. Yeah, what level of

50:05

disappointment? Deplorable. Well,

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Peter, how could you do this? Oh, no, then no.

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