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your smart speaker. Welcome back

0:43

to the show everybody another

0:45

hour to go before we

0:47

turn it over to Don

0:49

Hahn and Rosenberg. Be interesting

0:52

to see Don's take on

0:54

this. Don's a Met fan. So

0:56

who exactly would Don be

0:59

mad at? Juan Soto for saying

1:01

what he said or Mike Puma

1:03

for transcribing what he

1:05

said without opinion Without

1:08

opinion Just writing what

1:10

Soto said, but again people

1:13

are upset that Soto said

1:15

it But met fans are

1:17

terrified to be mad at

1:19

Soto, so they're gonna be

1:21

mad at the messenger Yeah, makes

1:23

sense That's how it works all

1:25

the time now Don't be

1:27

mad at the message Be

1:30

mad at the messenger because

1:32

if the messenger writes something

1:34

that you don't like that

1:37

is against your worldview, then

1:39

it's the messenger with the

1:42

agenda rather than the fact

1:44

that maybe it's true. Juan

1:46

Soto said that. Mike

1:49

Puma did not go to

1:51

chat GPT and say what

1:53

would Juan Soto say about

1:55

why he's being pitched differently

1:57

this year and chat GPT

2:00

said, because I used to

2:02

have the best hitter in

2:04

baseball behind me. No,

2:06

no, no. One soda said it.

2:08

Be mad at the message,

2:10

not the messenger. I think

2:12

you all got a little bit

2:15

hurt. That one soda

2:17

actually said something nice

2:19

about a Yankee. So rather

2:22

than be mad at one,

2:24

you're going to be mad at

2:26

Mike Puma. You know why?

2:28

because it's easy to be

2:30

bad at Mike Puma, he's

2:33

part of the filthy

2:35

media. Because he has

2:37

an agenda. Hmm. Look

2:40

within yourself. Look

2:42

within yourself. Why you

2:44

feel the way you feel? Because

2:47

you're really honest

2:49

with every single one

2:52

of yourselves. You're

2:54

upset that Soto

2:56

said that. You

2:59

don't want him to say

3:01

anything good about the Yankees.

3:03

You don't want him to

3:05

feel any kind of warm

3:07

feelings about last year. How could

3:10

he not? How could he not? He

3:12

went to a world series. He

3:14

was adored by the fans. He

3:16

had in his words the

3:18

greatest hitter in baseball hitting

3:20

behind him. He had the

3:23

best season of his career.

3:25

So although he might think he

3:28

made the right decision going to

3:30

match I think he does think

3:32

he made the right decision He

3:35

probably has warm feelings about

3:37

that Yankee season But the

3:39

one thing that I would amplify

3:42

and if I was talking

3:44

to Soto is what I said at

3:46

the end of the first hour He

3:48

didn't lose the best hitter

3:50

in baseball Hitting behind

3:52

him he left that hitter that

3:55

hitter He chose to

3:57

leave. And I get why he

3:59

left. The Met offer was

4:01

for more money. Now everybody said,

4:03

well, it wasn't that much.

4:05

When all is said and done, it's

4:08

a lot more. Because everybody looks

4:10

at 765 and 760. Well, the

4:12

Yankee offer was for 16 years. So

4:15

the average annual value was

4:17

less. The Met offers for 15 years.

4:19

The Met offer also provides him

4:22

a suite for every one

4:24

of those 15 years. That's a

4:26

million dollars a year. That's

4:28

15 more million. 22

4:30

seats of the best seats in the

4:32

house for his number 22 at

4:35

every single Met game for the

4:37

next 15 years. Let's say, I don't

4:39

know, let's say that's worth $6

4:41

million. So that's $21 right there. Let's

4:43

say the Met's pick up, you know, he

4:46

decides to opt out after five

4:48

years and the Met's given the

4:50

$5 million. That's another 50. So

4:53

we're talking about the Metoff

4:55

for being well over $800

4:57

million. And the Yankees were at

4:59

$760. So it wasn't just five

5:01

million. He made the financial choice

5:03

and I don't begrudge him

5:05

that. And now he's just... And one

5:08

thing people read, he answered a

5:10

question why he's being pitched differently.

5:12

Now Mike didn't say, are you

5:15

being pitched differently because judges not

5:17

behind you? He said, why do

5:19

you think you're being pitched

5:22

differently? He said, well, last

5:24

year I had the greatest hitter

5:26

in baseball hitting behind me.

5:28

Okay. True. Met fans choose to

5:30

be upset with those that are

5:32

talking about what Juan said. Got

5:35

it. Good. Great. Let's go to Wayne

5:37

and Montclair. Wayne. Yeah, this, uh,

5:39

I just, how you doing, Mr. K?

5:41

Good, how you doing? I just want,

5:43

I just want, I just want, I

5:46

mean, don't hang up, because every time

5:48

I call up, they hang up on

5:50

it. I just want to tell you

5:52

that, Juan Salto was, when he

5:54

played with the Yankees, he played

5:56

with the Yankees, he was, I watched

5:58

baseball for years. Not the greatest

6:01

hitter ever. The greatest for

6:03

my hitter I have ever seen. I've

6:05

watched baseball for 50 years. There's

6:07

a lot of guys out there that

6:09

are way better than judge in a

6:12

baseball. But wait, he didn't say greatest

6:14

hitter ever. He said the greatest

6:16

hitter. You're saying it. I didn't

6:19

say that. One solo said last

6:21

year I had the greatest hitter

6:23

in baseball behind me. That's, I

6:26

never said it. He's not the

6:28

greatest citizen I have ever seen.

6:31

But that's not what Juan Soto

6:33

said Wayne. He said he

6:35

had the greatest hitter in

6:37

base. Who's better now? Oh,

6:39

run wise. He's the no, no,

6:41

no. He also hit 322 last

6:43

year. So who's better now?

6:46

What's that all talking about?

6:48

Where's she? Who won the

6:50

MVP, Wayne? Bobby would finish

6:52

in a second. He had a

6:54

great year and he deserved

6:57

it. He deserved it. He deserved

6:59

it the year that he didn't

7:01

win it. Listen, I'm a Mexican

7:03

and I'm a judge. I love

7:05

what he does. I watch him

7:07

just, I watch him just to

7:09

watch him get up with that.

7:11

But I'll tell you what right now.

7:13

I will donate $500 to any

7:15

charity that you want to give

7:18

you out. I'll call you up. That

7:20

one solo will not about

7:22

300. and will not hit 30

7:24

home runs. You don't think he

7:26

will? Because he's an abstaining

7:28

that, a Yankee stadium where

7:31

he hit pop-ups, 315 feet, go

7:33

home runs. He gets a 350-foot

7:35

hit ball the right field, it's

7:37

it out. Yeah, but also Wayne,

7:39

he has a lot of power

7:41

to left center, and a lot

7:43

of those balls last year were

7:46

doubles. That'd be home runs at

7:48

city fields, a little more forgiving,

7:50

and left. Yes, his excuse that

7:52

he's not in a bad year. What's

7:54

he worried about? He don't care. He's got

7:57

that money. I think he cares. Wayne, I

7:59

think he cares. He loves baseball. He

8:01

loves being one of great

8:03

dinners ever. Why would he comment about

8:05

one of his teammates? I don't

8:07

know. I can't answer why he

8:10

would comment. I can't. I guess

8:12

he was just answering the question.

8:14

Because he cares. All he cares

8:16

is about the money. He cares about

8:18

the money. Your family comes

8:21

first. Okay. I understand that

8:23

you want to sweep your

8:25

firm. Everything like that. He'll

8:27

always care about that. Only, only kids

8:29

about that money. He's like you said,

8:31

he's worried about, the Mets are going

8:33

to be better for the next 15

8:35

years. How did he know? He has

8:37

a great... But Wayne, I'm interested. You're

8:39

a Met fan? Fan, you don't seem

8:41

like you love Soda. No, because I think

8:44

the Mets made a bad move by

8:46

getting. They could have got somebody else.

8:48

But they could have probably got

8:50

two pitchers that could have helped them

8:52

out. Well, but they're 11 and five

8:54

right now. with the pictures

8:56

that they have and the

8:58

pictures are pitching great.

9:00

Because everybody's hitting. I

9:03

understand he's not. But

9:05

Wayne, Soda's not hitting

9:07

the way he's going to

9:09

hit 300 or hit 30 home

9:11

runs. I think he'll easily hit

9:14

30 home runs. And even

9:16

if he doesn't hit 300,

9:18

he's going to have an

9:20

on-base percentage of like 440.

9:24

How could you say that they first of

9:26

all the Mets don't believe in

9:28

in giving pictures long-term contracts?

9:31

So they weren't in on

9:33

burns and they weren't in on

9:35

freed So that was not going to

9:37

happen. I mean, how could you

9:39

complain about having one of the

9:42

greatest hitters of all time? Money's

9:44

not an issue with Steve Cohen

9:47

And you can't say the Mets were

9:49

the only ones who were crazy about

9:51

it. The Yankees, well, went way above

9:53

what they wanted to, to bid for

9:55

him. The Red Sox, the Blue Jays. I

9:58

mean, that's an odd take for me. fan.

10:00

It really is. I think you guys are

10:02

so fortunate that he's in a

10:04

met uniform for the next 15

10:06

years and you're going to question

10:08

him? Yeah, of course he cares about

10:10

money. This is his job. But I

10:12

think, you know, we've had people that

10:15

I respect on the air that have said,

10:17

you know, there are other things that were

10:19

important and he felt

10:21

more comfortable around the Mets. He

10:23

felt more comfortable around Steve and Alex Cohen.

10:25

He felt like it was a fan. Okay.

10:28

Okay. Yeah, money was a big part of

10:30

it. You know if Scott Boris is your

10:32

agent, if money's not going to be a

10:34

big part of it, but I don't think

10:36

it was all about. I think that that

10:38

was a main factor, but I'm not going

10:40

to begrudge the guy to money or actually

10:43

impune him for taking such a great

10:45

deal. No, I'm not going to do that. I'm

10:47

spending this now to defend Soto. I don't know

10:49

why he said what he said yesterday, but

10:51

Soto has every right to take the money

10:54

from the money from the Mets. Every right.

10:56

Every right. Let's. Let's. Let's. Let's. Let's.

10:58

Let's. Let's. Let's. Yeah,

11:00

hi Michael. How you doing? I love your

11:02

show. I just wanted to let you know

11:04

that. I'm just calling to defend one

11:07

soda here. I'm not a one soda

11:09

fan because I'm mad that he left

11:11

the Yankees for the Mets and I

11:13

don't like the Mets or the Red

11:15

Sox, but I think people sometimes just

11:18

say things without thinking just like Paul

11:20

and Neil the other day said that

11:22

there was no uncomfortable to John Miller.

11:25

I'm sure he didn't mean to insult

11:27

you. No, that was I. I'm not

11:29

in the same breath as John Miller.

11:32

I was just joking. But John Miller

11:34

is tremendous. But I mean, what I

11:36

mean, your tremendous. Your tremendous. I think

11:38

you're tremendous. I think

11:41

he just said it without thinking, but

11:43

he didn't mean to insult people. And

11:45

I think I think you might be

11:48

right. I think it comes down to

11:50

this though. Words or weapons. So if

11:52

you're going to compliment the guy who

11:54

hit behind you last year and say

11:56

you're not getting pitched the same way, you

11:58

don't have pitches to hit. proxy you're

12:01

taking a bit of a shot at

12:03

Alonzo. I don't think that was his

12:05

intent but that's what you're doing

12:07

but I don't know how you could

12:09

take a shot at Alonzo is hitting

12:11

345 an OPS of 1.146. Alonzo is

12:13

having a special year but my point

12:16

about what Soto saying is that when

12:18

he signed the deal unless he had

12:20

inside information he had no clue

12:23

if Alonzo was going to be met

12:25

so he's going to mark Viento's

12:27

hitting behind him. or

12:29

Brendan Nemo or anybody you

12:31

want to choose that would not be

12:33

equal to the threat that P.

12:35

Alonzo keeps hitting like this,

12:37

Soda's going to see more pitches

12:40

to hit. Let's go to Bobby

12:42

and Belmore. Bobby. Yeah, hi Mike,

12:44

this is great because you're by yourself. I get

12:46

to talk to you so much, you can't hold

12:48

you so much easier. Anyway, um... Listen, he's got

12:50

90 million dollars more year by year, you know,

12:52

year by year. I mean, obviously he went for

12:54

the money. I'm going to tell you why. You're

12:56

going to disagree with the reason why Solo said

12:59

this. Soto knows allows us having a special year.

13:01

He's doing this to motivate him to keep it

13:03

up, because I think he knows he's going to

13:05

piss off a lot, so he's a real smart

13:07

guy, Soto, okay? I think he's really doing this,

13:09

so Alonzo could keep it. He would eventually you

13:11

can see you're going to see good pictures. You're

13:13

going to see good pictures. You're going to see

13:15

good pictures. So, you know, I think it's just

13:17

a motivation to keep, because Alonzo, you know, had

13:19

a bad year last year and he knows that,

13:21

Soto. So, you know, if he keeps it up,

13:23

he knows, so-so-so is going to help him down

13:25

the road. I think that's why he said what he

13:28

said. Well, I mean, I can't say your opinion

13:30

is wrong, it's your opinion, but I mean, does

13:32

Alonzo need any more motivation that he's going to

13:34

be a free agent at the end of the

13:36

end of the end of the end of the end

13:38

of the end of the end of the

13:40

end of the end of the year?

13:42

coming off a sub-par year if he

13:44

has a stupend this year and now

13:46

the first base market has been re-established

13:48

with what Black Guerrero got. I mean he's

13:51

got enough motivation. I don't think

13:53

he needs, he doesn't need one

13:55

Soto to say that. Listen, baseball,

13:57

there's an admin flow to the game.

14:00

So you come into the season and

14:02

you're an opposing manager, it

14:05

makes sense. I'm going to let Peter

14:07

Lanzo beat me. Peter Lanzo's not

14:09

the hitter that Juan Soto is.

14:11

But Peter Lanzo's gotten off to

14:13

a great start. And if he continues

14:15

to hit like this, then the

14:18

paradigm will change. Not that you'd

14:20

rather pitch to Juan Soto than

14:22

Pete Alonzo, but you're not going

14:24

to just put Juan Soto on

14:27

every single time. And Daraanzo to

14:29

hurt you again. We'll see

14:31

if people have this you know this

14:33

kind of stretch in in in May

14:35

I Think that I think that can

14:37

that that soda will see better

14:40

pitches Let's go to George and

14:42

Dobbs Ferry Georgia Mike thanks

14:44

for taking the call brother. You

14:46

got really quick. I asked 192

14:49

mrs. Kay. She was she was

14:51

my my grade school teacher. I used

14:53

to live in Throg's next so no

14:55

kidding. I know you know what I'm

14:57

talking about. Yeah, it's a fact

15:00

Really quick Mike, Mike, so I'm

15:02

a big Yankee fan, I'm not a

15:04

Mets fan, I'm not a Mets fan,

15:06

but up until this point of

15:08

his career, he was kind of a,

15:10

you know, he was like a visual

15:13

answer, he was a guy who would

15:15

go from team to team, and he

15:17

played really well for those teams, and

15:19

he finally found this long-term contract,

15:22

he finally signed this long-term contract

15:24

with the Mets, which is great.

15:26

I think part of the reason

15:28

why he signed it with the

15:30

Mets and not the Yankees, besides

15:33

the money and all that stuff that

15:35

you spoke about, is that I think he

15:37

wants to be labeled as the man. He

15:40

wants to be the face of the franchise.

15:42

With the Yankees, as well as

15:44

he would play, it would kind of

15:46

always be Aaron Judge's team. He's the

15:48

captain. He's the guy, and Juan Soda

15:50

would be a very, very, very good

15:53

Robin to Aaron Judge's Batman. So now

15:55

that he's with the Mets that he's with

15:57

the Mets. It's a little confusing to

15:59

me because Peter Lanzo's off to a

16:01

really really good start. It's not like Peter

16:03

Lanzo's baton 200 with two home runs.

16:05

I mean, Peter Lanzo's getting the screws

16:07

off the ball to begin the season.

16:09

It's one solo who's not performing up

16:11

to his standard. So it's kind of

16:13

weird for me that he's, he did, he

16:16

threw Peter's also under the bus. I mean,

16:18

no matter how you want to look

16:20

at it, as these med fans want

16:22

to kind of twist it and make

16:25

it, it's your fault, it's your fault.

16:27

It's Mr. Met's fault. No, it's one

16:29

soul's fault. It's what came out of

16:32

his mouth. It's what he said. And

16:34

he threw his teammate under the bus.

16:36

It was very, you know, throw stones

16:38

and then hide your hand. Because

16:41

there's no way you could say

16:43

that about the guy that hits

16:45

behind you without it being

16:47

a shot. That was very,

16:49

very well calculated.

16:52

I just think it's an offshoot of

16:54

what he said. I don't think

16:56

that he sat down with Mike

16:58

Pullman and said, I'm going to

17:00

take a shot at Alonzo. He

17:03

can't because Alonzo's been great.

17:05

So I don't think it was a

17:07

shot. Now there's a couple of other

17:10

things you said. You know, he

17:12

bounced around, he's a mercenary. Well,

17:14

first of all, he was traded.

17:16

The nationals didn't have to

17:19

trade him. They wanted to sign

17:21

him for long term and he might

17:23

have signed there and then Peter

17:25

Sidler passes away. So they had

17:27

to trade him and they trade him

17:30

to the Yankees. So then he

17:32

finally became a free agent. Now

17:34

I've heard the thing where he wanted

17:36

to be the man. I'm not, he was

17:38

never Robin to judge his Batman.

17:41

That's not fair. He's too great

17:43

of a player. So if you want to

17:45

like really split hairs, let's say

17:48

that Judge was... Michael

17:50

Keaton Batman

17:52

and Juan Soto

17:55

was George Clooney

17:58

Batman. I

18:00

mean they were both Batman. I

18:02

would never ever disparate Soto

18:04

and say that he was

18:06

Robin. Not Robin. Robin.

18:09

Robin was a useless

18:11

appendage to like Batman.

18:13

Why Robin existed I

18:15

don't even know. Juan Soto, if

18:18

Judge was one, Juan Soto was

18:20

one A, he was not two.

18:22

Not two. I mean what an

18:24

insult to call a great player

18:26

like Juan Soto Batman. But if

18:28

in fact he wanted to be

18:31

the man, there's two things I want

18:33

to say here. The first seven years of

18:35

his contract, which would have been

18:37

a 15 year contract, Judge would have

18:39

been there. Now you would assume, I hope

18:42

it doesn't happen, that ages 37, 38, 39,

18:44

Judge is not going to be the same

18:46

sort of player. And Soda will be in

18:48

his prime. He probably would have been the

18:51

better player at that point. And then once

18:53

Judge retires at the age of 39 or

18:55

40, then you have eight years of being

18:57

the man. And

18:59

if he did want to be the

19:01

man, right, then you can't lament

19:04

that you don't have the

19:06

greatest hitter in baseball behind

19:08

you. Because now you're that

19:11

guy. So you're providing that

19:13

protection to Lindor. It's

19:16

hard to find Soto, judge,

19:18

and Otani and somebody

19:20

to protect them, because

19:22

nobody is as good as

19:24

those guys. Soto actually was

19:26

in a situation last year and

19:28

could have been for the next

19:31

eight years where he did find

19:33

that person who would be

19:35

considered better than him and

19:38

provide him protection. He

19:40

had great protection in the

19:42

Padre lineup. He said good protection

19:45

but last year is the

19:47

greatest year of his career. Statistically.

19:51

Just was. Jerry in South Hackensack.

19:53

What's up Jerry? I'm going to preface

19:55

what I'm about to say. I had

19:57

no problem with one sort of taking

20:00

most money. I really didn't.

20:02

He deserved it, he earned it, and

20:04

but all this talk about always

20:06

feels more comfortable here, but

20:08

he'd be playing for the

20:10

Marlins right now if the

20:13

Marlins offered him that

20:15

money. Just say that. Not you,

20:17

Michael per se, but one soda.

20:19

That's it. He took the most

20:21

money and he deserved it. He

20:24

put himself in a position to

20:26

get the most money and that's

20:28

it. I

20:31

close my eyes and I want to

20:33

see if you can close your

20:35

eyes and picture a path for

20:37

the Yankees the Winter World

20:39

Series when Judge Bats three

20:41

quarters of his weight during

20:43

the playoffs. Because I don't see

20:46

the path, Michael. And I'm a

20:48

huge Yankee fan. I've been

20:50

a Yankee fan since the summer

20:52

in 1970. I have two favorite

20:55

teams. The Yankees who ever play

20:57

the Mets. But I don't see

20:59

it to you. Okay. Judge didn't have

21:01

a good postseason last year, right?

21:03

Correct. And they almost won the world

21:06

series. It wasn't his fault that

21:08

Nestor Cortez groove the ball of

21:10

Freeman. Now it was partially his fault

21:12

that they gave up those five runs

21:14

in the firt, but that had nothing

21:16

to do with his offense. But they

21:18

could have won that series with Judge

21:20

not being great. But you know, that's

21:22

the one thing that's left on Judge's

21:25

legacy. A ledger. He's got to

21:27

be better in the postseason in

21:29

the postseason. Can

21:33

you imagine if you had regular

21:35

season, Judge, during just the World Series?

21:37

You think the Dodgers actually had a

21:39

chance against us? No way. I'm sorry.

21:42

I mean, all the grief that John Carter

21:44

was standing gets, at least he's carried

21:46

us during the playoffs. Something that Judge

21:48

has never done. And I love Judge.

21:50

I love Judge. I love him. But,

21:52

okay. But, but one thing, Jerry, everybody

21:54

seems to dismiss this. They don't get

21:56

to the playoffs without Judge having the

21:58

season that he had. season and I

22:00

know he's been a letdown in the

22:03

postseason but one thing I will tell

22:05

you in a must-win situation in game five

22:07

he had a double a home run and two

22:09

walks I know he dropped the ball in

22:11

center field but that's not what we're talking

22:13

about he had a double a home run

22:15

in two walks I think he was starting

22:18

to come around if that shear if that

22:20

series shifted to LA I think it would

22:22

have been a completely different story I

22:24

don't know I can't say for sure I

22:26

mean, nobody could say for sure. I

22:28

just saw the way the games were

22:30

progressing. The Dodgers didn't have a lot

22:33

of starting pitching. They were getting

22:35

by on guile from their bullpen.

22:37

Flarity got slapped around and game

22:39

five got knocked out. So they didn't have

22:41

much pitching left. And all of the

22:44

pressure would have shifted to the Dodgers

22:46

in game six in LA. But it didn't

22:48

happen. That five run fifth inning

22:50

happened. And I will also say this,

22:52

everybody. The angst did come back to

22:54

take the lead. And then

22:57

Tommy Kanely walked three

22:59

guys in a row. I think

23:01

the Yankees did not play their

23:03

best, and they still almost

23:05

won a World Series. When

23:07

people say, oh, the

23:09

Dodgers just completely overwhelmed them.

23:12

Take a look at the

23:14

stats, the runs scored by

23:16

each team, all even. Home runs,

23:18

ER, everything was even. The

23:22

Nestor Cortez, the decision to bring in

23:24

Nestor Cortez to me, is terrible. When

23:26

you had Tim Hill out there, who'd been doing

23:28

that job all year. And you could debate me

23:30

all you want. That decision about Cortez

23:32

coming in there, that was decided before

23:35

the series. At all the big meetings.

23:37

All right, his stuff plays at this thing. At

23:39

this part of the lineup, this lane, this

23:41

is for Nestor. And maybe it was. But

23:43

not Nestor who hadn't pits in two months.

23:45

Sorry. You don't bring him in the first

23:47

game of the first game of the first game

23:49

of the world series of the world series. They

23:51

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23:54

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23:56

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26:49

nine days and it's the same recycled

26:51

nonsense that we hear about and you

26:53

know, we're gurgitated in different ways. But

26:56

there is some new news that I

26:58

think is really interesting. And that the

27:00

Giants are going out to Colorado,

27:03

a whole contingent of giant people,

27:05

to work out in a private workout,

27:07

Shador Sanders. Smart. You

27:09

don't just dismiss a guy because

27:11

there are certain things that you

27:13

didn't like at the pro day, that

27:15

you don't think, you know, the times

27:17

you spoke to him. This is an

27:20

important pick for the Giants. I

27:22

mean, they're going into a season.

27:24

with Russell Wilson and

27:26

James Winston as their

27:28

quarterbacks. So that even if they

27:30

do okay this year, I'm not sure

27:33

they will, you have to think about

27:35

the future. So if you're

27:37

going to be awful and

27:39

you pick archmanning, Joe Shane's

27:41

not going to pick archmanning,

27:44

neither is Brian Dable. You

27:46

got to find out every single

27:48

thing that you could find out about

27:50

your Doris Sanders. This is

27:53

smart. This is proactive on

27:55

their part. You have to

27:57

uncover everything peel back

27:59

every layer of the

28:01

onion, lift up every

28:03

rock, find out everything

28:06

you can about

28:08

Shador Sanders. Is he

28:10

the guy? And is he not

28:12

the guy? So going out

28:14

there and having his

28:16

total attention and

28:19

your total attention

28:21

to him, that's the play.

28:24

That's a smart play

28:26

by the Giants. Because

28:29

I thought Adam Shefter said

28:32

it best yesterday on one of

28:34

the shows You don't draft a

28:36

quarterback because you're going to

28:38

date them You draft a

28:40

quarterback you're going to marry

28:43

the quarterback And you don't

28:45

just marry somebody that you

28:47

like You have to marry somebody

28:49

that you love So you really have

28:52

to find everything out about

28:54

him if you don't like something

28:56

about him find why he is that

28:58

way? Maybe there's

29:00

a reason. Talk in depth

29:02

with Dion. See what's behind

29:05

the man. I like the Giants

29:07

doing their due diligence.

29:09

Nothing to complain about

29:11

here. Go out there, see what you

29:13

got. They are doing everything

29:15

that they're supposed to see.

29:18

You can't just go by the

29:20

film. Because there's a man

29:22

behind the film. There's a

29:24

thought behind every move, every

29:27

word, every word, every throw.

29:29

Find out what that thought is.

29:31

See if this guy is the guy

29:33

for you. I think they come out

29:35

of Colorado and they

29:37

convince themselves he's not

29:40

the guy. But maybe, just

29:42

maybe, they go there and they find

29:44

out, you know what? He's the guy.

29:46

You can't be uncertain. You

29:48

gotta love him. Not like

29:50

him. Love him. And I've heard

29:52

a lot of people say, well,

29:55

you know, maybe they'll get

29:57

Jackson dark. in the second round.

30:00

Or they'll trade up in the

30:02

first. Well, maybe somebody will take

30:04

Jackson Dorit with the 15th

30:06

pick. You know what the third pick.

30:08

Should Doris Sanders be available? So

30:10

you have to find out whether

30:12

or not you are going to marry him.

30:15

Again, I think they're going to

30:17

go there, and he's not going to

30:19

check every box for them. They'll

30:22

probably like him, but they

30:24

probably don't love him. And their

30:26

career is on the line. Their giant's

30:28

career. Both Shane and Dable. Hi, I'm

30:30

looking forward to Saturday Because it's the Knicks against

30:32

the Pistons game one Of the playoffs six o'clock at

30:34

the garden But the one thing The one thing that I don't get

30:37

is how the narrative about the series is that Tibbs is

30:39

coaching for his coaching for his coaching for his coaching

30:41

for his coaching for his coaching for his coaching for

30:43

his coaching for his coaching for his coaching for his

30:45

coaching for his coaching for his coaching for his

30:47

coaching for his coaching coaching for his coaching for his

30:49

coaching for his coaching for his coaching for his

30:51

coaching for his coaching for his coaching for his coaching

30:54

for his coaching for his coaching for his coaching for

30:56

his coaching for his coaching for his coaching for his

30:58

coaching for his Kendrick

31:00

Perkins was on with Don Hahn-Hahn-Hahn-Hahn-Hosenberg.

31:04

And he said that Tibbs has the most

31:06

pressure of any coach and he needs

31:09

to beat Detroit. Here's Kendrick. I think

31:11

Tom Tibble though is under the most

31:13

pressure probably any coach in the NBA

31:15

and the way that we're witnessing right

31:17

now coaches are losing their jobs the

31:19

back and forth that he had with

31:22

Michael Bridges too many menest things to

31:24

that nature and I love Tills he's

31:26

my and boot two brother for life

31:28

won a championship with him but I

31:30

got a caller like I see it

31:33

Tom Tibble though at least half that

31:35

bare minimum force a seven game

31:37

series against the Boston show in order

31:39

to keep his job. I love Kendrick, okay?

31:41

He's got to take the Celtics to

31:43

seven games. I'm going to paint you

31:45

a picture, everybody. He could lose to

31:48

the Pistons and he's not going to lose

31:50

his job. The only way he could lose his

31:52

job is if fans decide. Because they've

31:54

always had it out for tips. After

31:56

the first couple of years, they've had

31:58

it out for him. the minutes police,

32:01

all that. They forget what the

32:03

Knicks were before him. If it was

32:05

up to Leon Rose and William Wesley,

32:08

he would not get fired.

32:10

I don't think he's close to

32:12

being fired. You know he signed

32:14

a three-year extension? That

32:16

isn't even kicking into next

32:19

year. Now that doesn't mean

32:21

anything, because Dolan has a

32:23

lot of money, which brings us

32:25

to the most important aspect

32:27

of this. Dolan has a

32:29

little bit of fan in him. So

32:32

maybe his nose gets bent out

32:34

of joint if they lose to the

32:36

pistons and he just impulsively

32:39

says I want him gone.

32:41

So I can't get inside the

32:43

mind of James Dolan. But I

32:45

think that Dolan respects Rose.

32:48

Dolan is handed all this

32:50

power to Rose and Rose

32:52

has rewarded him with a

32:54

team that's entertaining, that wins

32:56

a lot of games. The

32:59

Gardens packed all the time.

33:01

I don't even think

33:03

that Dolan would say

33:05

if they lost in

33:07

five games to the

33:09

Pistons he's gone. The

33:11

last two years, under Tibbs,

33:14

there are 101 and

33:16

64. Do you know that from

33:18

2001 to 2023, they had

33:20

one playoff series

33:23

victory. When the

33:25

history of the NBA 2001

33:27

to 2023 will be the

33:30

dark days for the New

33:32

York Knicks. They were dreadful.

33:34

This guy has made them

33:36

a contender. But is there

33:38

anybody out there right

33:41

now, within the sound of

33:43

my voice, that think the Knicks,

33:45

the way presently

33:47

constituted, are going

33:49

to win a championship

33:52

this year? The answer is

33:54

no. There shouldn't. So why

33:56

does it matter what round they losing?

34:00

I don't think they're losing to

34:02

the pistons, by the way. I

34:04

don't think they're losing to the

34:06

pistons. They'll find a way to

34:09

slow down Cunningham. There's things the

34:11

pistons do that make me worried. Malik

34:13

Beasley shoots 41.6% from the

34:15

three-point stripe, and the Knicks

34:18

don't defend the three-point

34:20

of that well. Six of Detroit's top

34:22

ten players have never played in

34:24

the playoff game. Every

34:28

one of the Nick players is played

34:30

in the playoff game. Now, the Pistons

34:32

have brought in some vets that are

34:35

going to help. Harris, Hardaway Jr.,

34:37

the one that scares me is

34:39

Shruder, because Shruder can really

34:41

slow down Brunson. But I

34:43

think Bronson's going to show. Isaiah

34:46

Stewart's going to get physical, and

34:48

Nick's having to get physical back.

34:50

But this narrative that he's going

34:53

to lose his job. That's fan-based

34:55

nonsense. I'm surprised. I'm

34:57

surprised that Kendrick Perkins, who

35:00

loves Thibodeau, Thibodeau was an

35:02

assistant on the Celtic team

35:04

that won a championship with Perkins.

35:07

He's going to, they have to go

35:09

to the seven games with the, with

35:11

the, they might not go to five

35:13

games with the Celtic, the Celtics are

35:15

so much better than the Knicks. If

35:18

you want to make the argument, if

35:20

they get embarrassed by

35:22

Detroit, which I don't think they will.

35:24

I think they're going to win that

35:27

series. But if they get embarrassed

35:29

by Detroit, maybe it could be on

35:31

the table, I think it should be washed

35:33

off the table, but maybe it could be

35:36

on the table. But you mean to

35:38

tell me if they beat the Pistons

35:40

and they go to the next round

35:42

and they lose to the Celtics in

35:44

five games that he's going to lose

35:46

his job, I don't believe it. I

35:48

don't think the Knicks are that dumb. Who

35:51

are you bringing in that's going to

35:53

be better? Who are

35:55

you bringing in that is going to be better?

35:57

People are going to point to him. He has

35:59

a 38... 47 record in the playoffs.

36:01

You look at the teams. Tell

36:03

me when he had the best players

36:06

on the teams. Tell me the

36:08

series he should have won that

36:10

he lost. You can't. You can't.

36:12

He's taken a Nick team that's

36:14

somewhat flawed to the

36:16

second round the last couple

36:19

of years. I think they'll bow out

36:21

in the second round this year

36:23

too. But you're going to

36:25

blame it on him. Oh, he's

36:28

going to get out coach in the

36:30

play. Oh, okay. Fans are

36:32

fanatics. So unless you win a

36:34

championship, you're the worst. I see

36:36

what the Yankees with Boone.

36:39

I understand. That's how fans are

36:41

now. What have you done

36:43

for me yesterday? Tom Thibido

36:45

has done plenty in five

36:48

years. He's turned a dumpster

36:50

fire into a respectable organization

36:52

with a great culture. And

36:55

his players love him. And you're

36:57

going to bring up what Michael

37:00

Bridges said? As having an

37:02

impact on whether Tibbs stays or

37:04

not? What Michael Bridges said was

37:06

moronic. Should have never said it.

37:09

Oh, so the young guys could play. Those

37:11

young guys are going to have

37:13

their butts glued to the bench.

37:15

There's going to be a rotation

37:17

of about eight people. During

37:21

the playoffs so those young guys

37:23

that Michael Bridges fell were being

37:25

robbed of some precious minutes because

37:27

they're playing on so many minutes

37:30

That's the dumbest thing any Nick said

37:32

all year and You're gonna say that

37:34

that's gonna hang over Tibbs his

37:36

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37:38

William Wesley's too smart, and I

37:40

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37:43

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40:30

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40:34

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40:37

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40:39

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40:41

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40:44

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40:46

Soto is still lamenting the fact that

40:48

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40:51

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40:53

us. Yankees are off to a better

40:55

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40:57

miss him more than he misses them.

41:00

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41:02

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41:04

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41:07

bad. Other than Max Freed. I mean

41:09

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41:11

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41:14

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41:16

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41:18

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41:20

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41:23

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41:25

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41:27

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41:30

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41:32

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41:34

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41:36

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41:39

miss Soto. Because even if Soto was

41:41

here. And Strowman pitched away he pitched.

41:43

And Carrasco before yesterday pitched away he's

41:46

pitched. And Warren before his last star

41:48

pitched away he's pitched. And Rodin pitched

41:50

the way he pitched, Soda would have

41:53

nothing to do with the way they've

41:55

pitched. Come on. I know when you're

41:57

a fan of a team you want

41:59

to see something that benefits them, but

42:02

you also have to see reality. And

42:04

reality is, the Yankees are out to

42:06

the start they're off to, because they're

42:09

starting pitching other than the freedoms have

42:11

been terrible. Terrible. Go to Brian and

42:13

Seattle, Brian. Hey, Brian. Hi, Brian. Hi,

42:16

Michael, how are you doing? great first

42:18

time calling a many Yankee fans probably

42:20

I grew into it given because of

42:22

my mom and probably could say I

42:25

started tracking the team after that after

42:27

17 okay um what I wanted to

42:29

talk to you about was what do

42:32

you think is going to happen with

42:34

Ben Rice when Stanton comes back because

42:36

To anyone that doesn't know, just take

42:38

a look at Ben Rice's baseball savant

42:41

page. Ben Rice is, he has a

42:43

barrel rate in the 100% tile. He

42:45

has a hard hit percentage in the

42:48

100% tile. His walk rate is in

42:50

the 90% percentile. There's a lot of

42:52

red in there, Michael, and I'm just

42:55

wondering, do you think that they'll find

42:57

a way to like squeeze them in

42:59

anywhere else other than the... Platoon against

43:01

righties and have to stand and platoon

43:04

against lefties. Well, I wish I had

43:06

a really good answer for you Brian

43:08

because I've wondered this a lot I

43:11

don't know what they do when stand

43:13

comes back. You're not going to platoon

43:15

standing? Because then he's going to play

43:18

what? 30% of the time? You know,

43:20

the starting pitchers, 30% of them are

43:22

left-handers. And he's not, he's proven he's

43:24

not a good pinch hitter. So I

43:27

don't know if a strict platoon works

43:29

and you're not going to platoon Ben

43:31

Rice with Paul Goldsmith a veteran guy

43:34

who's off to a great start So

43:36

again, that's a bad platoon because the

43:38

left-hander sees much more time in the

43:41

righty, Paul Goldsmith didn't come here to

43:43

play 30% of the time, another flying

43:45

the ointment is that all of your

43:47

catchers are left-handed. So I honestly don't

43:50

know how they will get Ben Rice

43:52

at bats. I don't, I've asked Boone

43:54

before, can he play 30, he said

43:57

no. I said can he play the

43:59

outfield, he said no. All right so

44:01

that eliminates that. Now sometimes we worry

44:03

about the stuff, Joe Tori used to

44:06

always, and it kind of solves itself.

44:08

Somebody gets hurt. You hope that doesn't

44:10

happen. But if all things are equal

44:13

and no one gets hurt, Brian, I

44:15

wish I had the answer. I do

44:17

not know how they will get him

44:20

significant playing time. I don't. And I

44:22

don't know, you know, Boone keeps saying

44:24

that he wants to play Grisham a

44:26

lot. I don't know how you're going

44:29

to do that, unless you take it

44:31

bats away from Bellinger and Dominguez. It's

44:33

not a perfect fit. I've told you

44:36

about this roster before. Guys out of

44:38

left-handed they need to be right-handed guys

44:40

out of right-handed they need to be

44:43

left-handed when you have two catchers You

44:45

don't want them both to hit from

44:47

the same side. Well, they have three

44:49

catchers. They all hit from the left

44:52

side So I don't know what to

44:54

tell you barring an injury. I don't

44:56

know how they're going to force him

44:59

in I don't know David Do it

45:01

so I got I think what is

45:03

a smart Mets question and then a

45:05

stupid Yankees question and I'm a Yankee

45:08

hand just to be up front so

45:10

you tell me but I'm looking here

45:12

The March April stats for Aaron judge

45:15

2024 last year. He batted 207 on

45:17

base percentage 340 OPS 754. What is

45:19

one sort of talking about? It's April

45:22

15th and he's and he's not something

45:24

just waiting and he's hitting better than

45:26

judge was let's just be patient before

45:28

he starts you know, cycle analyzing why

45:31

he's not getting the pitches he supposedly

45:33

should be getting. So I want to

45:35

get a thought on that. Is that,

45:38

you know, and then you look at

45:40

the first three weeks of this season

45:42

and a Wanso is hitting 345. So

45:45

he's getting better protection than he did

45:47

with Judge in April of last year.

45:49

But then from May on, Judge was

45:51

a beast and obviously people pitched the

45:54

won because they didn't want to pitch

45:56

the judge. So I see what he's

45:58

saying, but he doesn't want to pitch

46:01

the judge. So I see what he's

46:03

saying, but he doesn't have the right

46:05

to say it now, because I think

46:07

it's so tough. Could Ben Rice learn

46:10

third base this year? I, you know,

46:12

it's not dumb because I actually asked,

46:14

I asked Boone that and he said

46:17

no. He just shot it down completely.

46:19

It's not dumb. Because as a previous

46:21

caller, well, how are they going to

46:24

get him in? I don't know how

46:26

they're going to get him in. But

46:28

it's not dumb. You want to try

46:30

to squeeze him in somehow, but Boone

46:33

does not think he can play third

46:35

base. Doesn't think he has the skill

46:37

set to play third base. Andrew and

46:40

Medford. Andrew. Andrew. I'm very well, thank

46:42

you. Good. Let's talk about the New

46:44

York Giants really quick. Okay. With the

46:47

draft coming up, I like to put

46:49

myself in other people's shoes. So the

46:51

GM and the coach, obviously their jobs

46:53

are on the line, you gotta go

46:56

with the best value at that pick.

46:58

But the good news is, there's a

47:00

lot of NFL starters in this draft.

47:03

It's not the greatest draft. Not too

47:05

many blue chip players, but a lot

47:07

of NFL starters. So, like, either between

47:10

Carter or a hunter or a hunter.

47:12

So the third pick the Giants have

47:14

to go let's say they went with

47:16

Carter right because I would like Carter

47:19

I mean I'd be happy with either

47:21

one but let's say they go with

47:23

Carter and in the second round you

47:26

go to quarterback they could probably get

47:28

a middle row you know and I

47:30

think you know the coach could work

47:32

with him you know so but they're

47:35

ready after this it's really good to

47:37

value I got two offensive tackles and

47:39

of course I got a defensive back

47:42

and of course you know Carter I

47:44

think when the first pick and then

47:46

you go with a tie-in and a

47:49

running back and a wide receiver and

47:51

Michael all these guys are ready to

47:53

start in They're not backed up, see

47:55

the Giants, spend the ready and free

47:58

agency all for backup players, which is

48:00

a good move, but they don't need

48:02

any backups in this draft. And in

48:05

this draft, there's plenty of opportunities to

48:07

get guided. But Andrew, it's not a

48:09

deep draft, but at the number three

48:12

spot, they can get a starter. A

48:14

guy could be a star, so it

48:16

looks like Tennessee is going to go

48:18

with Hunter, and then that leaves Abdul

48:21

Carter Carter for you, and obviously he

48:23

can be an outstanding player. I've watched

48:25

a lot of Alabama games. I'm not

48:28

in love with Jaylon Millrow. I don't

48:30

know if they see something in him

48:32

that I don't. I just don't think

48:34

he has the touch. I don't think

48:37

that he has the accuracy, but we'll

48:39

see. I mean, they're going to have

48:41

to take a flyer on somebody. I

48:44

think they'd rather get Jackson Dort, but

48:46

I don't know if they can get

48:48

Jackson Dort in the second or third

48:51

round. Again, we get closer to Saturday.

48:53

But there's a lot of stuff going

48:55

on and Don Hahn and Rosenberg will

48:57

talk about all of it. I promise

49:00

you that I'm getting in the car

49:02

to drive to the stadium right now.

49:04

So I'm going to listen to them.

49:07

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49:14

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49:16

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49:18

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