0:00

The Michael K Show. Why not just fire him?

0:02

If you try to get him to resign, what

0:04

if he didn't? Stole the contract for another year.

0:06

What if he decided to stick? Because if you

0:08

think he's that good that he's gonna help Philadelphia,

0:10

or that he's gonna help Washington or somebody else

0:12

in the division, then try to make it work.

0:14

If he's so good that I'm afraid he's gonna

0:17

go to my competitor, don't I have to figure

0:19

out some way to make this work? Coaches don't

0:21

have to like each other, but if he's wearing

0:23

on you, if there's an issue with him, and

0:25

he's gone rogue on you and disrespected you, Michael,

0:27

then I think that's a fireable offense. And I

0:29

think even John Marrow would agree with that. So you

0:31

really think that if things were that bad, you're gonna

0:33

get all caught up in, oh, but I don't want

0:35

him going someplace. Let's force him to resign. To me,

0:37

that just comes across as real weak. The

0:40

Michael K Show. On 98.7 ESPN. Welcome

0:45

back to the show. As promised, let's

0:48

talk some Marcus Strowman. When

0:52

it first became apparent that

0:55

Strowman had, or his representatives had, related

0:57

to the Yankees that he was interested

0:59

in talking with them.

1:02

The first report was the Yankees

1:04

did not reciprocate that interest.

1:08

Then Bob Nightingale yesterday from USA

1:10

Today wrote that the Yankees do

1:12

indeed have interest in Strowman. Then

1:15

John Marrowsy of MLB network said

1:18

that they are moving closer to maybe

1:20

coming to an agreement. I'm

1:24

really, really surprised. Now,

1:28

listen, in this business, you have

1:30

to hold your nose. We

1:32

know the problems that Domingo Herman had.

1:35

We know the problems that Chapman had. We

1:38

get it. And as I always

1:40

say, Talon is the great deodorant. But

1:43

at this point in his career, is

1:47

there enough there for

1:49

Marcus for you to forget

1:51

everything that he has said about you,

1:54

Brian Cashman, and

1:56

the organization? Because

1:58

He finished the season. The unable to

2:01

pitch with the Cubs ah his

2:03

last six the chain stores as again

2:05

in the array of about six. He

2:08

has the highest the array. At

2:10

Yankee Stadium in his starts then

2:12

have any other place said he

2:15

spits a significant amount of games

2:17

I believe is thirty two years

2:19

old. He is our

2:21

social media. I'm constant

2:24

and he was be

2:26

very smart. Because.

2:29

Once he. Proclaimed.

2:32

How you would like to go to the eggs, You know what he did.

2:35

He scrubbed. All. The mentions

2:37

of the eighties and all than terrible

2:39

things he said about the team and

2:41

the fan base and brings us is

2:44

now office his his twitter feed. Favourite.

2:48

But. People do have memories. I

2:51

mean he Is Blocked. I'd.

2:53

say half of Yankee Twitter. So.

2:56

This is a Yankee fan base.

2:59

We. Were in a poll the other day. Quit Paul.

3:02

Got three thousand votes. Seventy three for. Some

3:04

people say they want no part of the

3:06

guy. The fact

3:08

that The Yankees this is just me guessing

3:10

right now. Or even

3:12

thinking about fishing and respond. Has

3:15

to be related to an air

3:18

of desperation. They. Didn't

3:20

yamamoto. They know they need

3:22

at least two starters. The. Price or

3:24

Us Now on. The price on Montgomery is going to

3:26

be sky high. If you're going

3:28

to get burns you cannot the give up

3:31

a lot more draft capital. Not

3:33

not draft picks and can't trade them. Put

3:35

stuff in your model leagues and your give

3:37

up the lots of the soto. So.

3:40

Any trade you make for fisher. That's.

3:42

Going to be able to help you. You

3:45

can have to give up more what's

3:47

in your system. Not as one of

3:49

the thing that I am thinking that

3:51

maybe it's this because I find it

3:54

so hard to wrap my mind around

3:56

the fact. That these two

3:58

people These two so. It's what

4:00

will actually former Union I I.

4:03

I can't wrap my mind around.

4:06

Maybe the yankees of putting it others that

4:08

have interest in them. So.

4:10

That teams that are negotiated with them or

4:13

free agents that are negotiating with them. Might.

4:16

Feel some sort of urgency? Okay, let's bring

4:18

the price down. To. Something little bit

4:20

more reasonable to make this deal before they

4:22

bring instrument and then they will need my

4:24

guy. Maybe that's

4:26

it. But. Maybe

4:29

desperation is dropping them into the

4:31

arms of most a strawman and

4:33

I don't think it's his. Be

4:35

pretty because there are times in

4:37

this guy's uses.he's a warrior. And

4:39

here's a one positive thing. And

4:42

he denied it. With me on

4:44

social media about it. When. He got

4:46

traded from Toronto somebody that was in

4:48

that clubhouse. Told. Me

4:51

that he was absolutely ballistic

4:53

screaming because they traded him

4:55

to the net. And.

4:58

That the Yankees cause he wanted the

5:00

pitch for the Yankees and Brian Cashman.

5:03

Who. Never Ever met. A

5:06

question that he doesn't ever given credit.

5:08

Knowledge Your douglas. Point.

5:10

Osman is always available. Sometimes.

5:12

It's himself in trouble. said we didn't have

5:14

interests and Strawman. Because he wouldn't have

5:17

been an impact pitcher for us and that set strong

5:19

went off. And and strawman,

5:21

what up attachments one at the be A

5:23

is all these years now and now. Com.

5:26

By off. They. Both have interest

5:28

in each other. I I'm I'm

5:30

trying to woo flabbergasted Dalia Relief

5:32

was beloved. Skillets take each they

5:34

used as as as you brought

5:36

up. By

5:39

why would they want to get this

5:41

guy. Did try the nozzle. By.

5:43

Months if you think he can help

5:46

you. They obviously got over what happened

5:48

with or oldest Chapman and and traded

5:50

for him. Despite his domestic violence

5:52

history and domingo her mom still here

5:54

and did it while he was Yankees

5:56

and dimming on on field has turned

5:59

out to be. Really good pitcher they

6:01

didn't have one hundred percent know he would

6:03

be and they still held on or. And.

6:05

So all the things that might be nozzle

6:07

he about strawman We don't see any kind

6:09

of criminal activity. So.

6:12

If you can live with strap many,

6:14

go live with Tom Herman. Them why

6:16

not? From. Be happy when

6:18

send these. Got a chance He wanted to be

6:20

here. And you're you're trying to do

6:23

you think is best for your team. So

6:25

let's not make as much as much as

6:27

a pain than that he can be. He's

6:29

not a criminal. Through.

6:31

The pain but he's not a criminal, not

6:33

not a bad guy or terms of like

6:35

really sorry for Chapman and Utep domingo him

6:37

on. Bottled. See any really route.

6:39

The reason was because they both young chap

6:42

in a bookshop make an album they bought

6:44

the make. Our moms can be really good.

6:46

Pitcher is a Strawman school so that or

6:48

murdering happened after though no. Yeah. But

6:50

a is out on ones with them to

6:52

and then finally remember the the incident at

6:54

a against natural event or that. but what

6:56

I'm saying is that he ever known thing

6:59

before signing. Numbers. I get a

7:01

lot of all of them. except knowing there's a

7:03

difference between staying in business to someone and getting

7:05

in business for someone. For. He still

7:07

they got into business adjustments that will that ray I've

7:09

worn out and would be the other during the war

7:11

and then resign him when he left his a free

7:13

agent so that he only reason is not a Yankee

7:15

now because he was ineffective. Another to

7:18

do with what happened the off the

7:20

field some other till the Yankees for

7:22

it because I think everybody does what

7:24

they think is best for them. So

7:26

spouse Strawman has not been in that

7:28

kind of a situation. And.

7:30

You thinks he can help you. And in two

7:32

thousand one with the Mets Michael, he made thirty

7:35

three starts, an itinerant average of three point o'

7:37

two so either stages and pitch well Yankee Stadium,

7:39

but he pitched bring up pretty well in New

7:41

York. and of the in a

7:43

little have a lot of options to help this

7:45

rotation it's a win now team is normal begin

7:47

to be able to bring soto back and if

7:50

it's a move on the cheap you can understand

7:52

that too because they're gonna need to rake as

7:54

much taxes they can to try to make sure

7:56

they keep soda was a yankee beyond this year

7:58

so i'm i'm not mad If you don't

8:00

think he's good enough to be a Yankee, that's

8:02

a separate conversation. But all the off-field stuff and

8:05

the way he's reacted, the way he had

8:08

to scrub Twitter, you said it yourself, Michael.

8:10

You never make decisions as an organization based

8:12

on your fans' thoughts. So the fact that

8:14

70% of the

8:16

fans on our poll didn't want them,

8:18

that should not bother you

8:21

if you're the Yankees. I

8:23

don't think... No, no, no. You have to

8:25

acquire people because a

8:28

fan base has to go out and acquire them because

8:30

they want everybody. But if

8:32

a fan base has a really terrible

8:34

relationship with this guy, it's got to

8:37

come into play a little. Listen, it's

8:39

apples and wrenches, I get it, but

8:41

every Yankee fan hated Roger Clemens. They

8:43

found a way to fall in love with him. They're going to

8:46

love him or hate him based on how he performs. And

8:48

you know what's going to happen, Michael? A little prediction here

8:50

based on history. If he ends

8:52

up being a nozzle with the Yankees and doing

8:54

all the things he did with the Mets and

8:56

the Cubs and all the things that drive you

8:58

crazy, if he's competing for the Cy Young, every

9:00

Yankee fan will defend his behavior. And

9:03

if he ends up being terrible and does it, then every

9:05

Yankee fan is going to want him gone. It's

9:07

all based on how he performs. Or if he's terrible and does nothing

9:09

wrong, they'll still want him gone. But

9:13

I will tell you this. Again, I don't

9:15

know Marcus. I really don't. I

9:17

just know what I read and how he is

9:19

on Twitter. But if

9:21

he gets booed at Yankee Stadium, he doesn't have

9:24

to take it lightly. That's

9:26

the part. To me, it's less of a ... And

9:28

he's a New Yorker, by the way, Peter. To

9:31

me, it's less about how the

9:33

fans feel about it and

9:36

more just the

9:39

Yankee way, right? And I know that's kind

9:42

of absurd when you talk about what Don

9:44

just talked about and these much more important

9:46

issues, things that are much more meaningful than

9:48

someone who's annoying on Twitter. So I recognize

9:51

that relative to that, this is sort of

9:53

nothing. But

9:55

we've been having all these conversations about Aaron

9:57

Rodgers, about Kyrie Irving, about people who just

9:59

... a

12:00

$21 million contract for

12:02

next year, so it's got to be at least

12:04

that. But I give the Yankees credit. Players

12:07

seem to kind of find the straight and narrow

12:09

when they're Yankees. I'm sure you'll have

12:11

a conversation with him. There may be

12:13

a zero tolerance to some of

12:15

his behavior. Why do I

12:18

have a feeling that he will probably be less

12:20

active on social media as a Yankee? I

12:22

know. You would think so. Really? Is

12:26

there anybody on the Yankees that has a

12:28

major social media presence? Yeah, Clint Fraser did.

12:31

Yeah, and look how that worked out. But

12:34

on the current Yankees, Michael, even the star

12:36

players, I think Judge has an account, but

12:38

he hardly ever does a thing. No, he

12:40

does it for a youth account for a

12:42

strategy. Yeah, you know, Rizzo, none of these

12:44

guys call. No, they don't

12:47

post stuff about the world or the... Why?

12:50

Because I think the Yankees explain to them. There will

12:52

be a conversation. You want to be a Yankee? Great.

12:55

We want you to be a Yankee, but we're not going to tolerate

12:57

what you did with the Mets and what

12:59

you did with the Cubs. And

13:02

you're a Yankee now. We're going to expect you to conduct

13:04

yourself this way. And if you don't,

13:06

then you're going to be gone. I

13:08

think you can have that conversation with

13:10

him. As you said, it didn't end

13:13

well in Chicago, although he was an all-star. And...

13:17

Well, it didn't end well because of injuries, not because of the bad

13:19

guy. Oh, no. And he's not a bad guy.

13:21

No, well, that's what I mean. He just can't... There's

13:23

not an opinion. He can't... And a

13:25

lot of it comes from a place. He's highly competitive.

13:27

He might be a little thin-skinned, but I think it

13:29

comes from a place where he might come in here

13:31

with a bit of a chip on his shoulder to

13:33

prove everybody wrong. There's nothing wrong with that. And

13:36

as long as it doesn't get out of hand, but I

13:39

look at the Yankees' organization as buttoned

13:41

up enough where some of

13:43

these things won't happen. Well,

13:47

that's the way to root, but it does tell you the

13:50

desperate nature of their need for pitching, that they

13:52

would even consider Marcus Strowman. And I know it

13:54

doesn't bother you, Michael. It also tells you there

13:56

must not be that much of a mark for

13:58

Marcus for him to... wants to play for the

14:00

A. Although he's always wanted to play for the

14:02

A. Give him that. Yes. And there's always something

14:04

to that as well. And I know you're

14:07

taking the high road for what he did to you, but

14:10

he does owe you an apology. No,

14:12

that would hold my breath. No, but I

14:14

wouldn't expect you to ask for it. But you know what?

14:16

You're going to be around the team a lot. Oh, he

14:19

wouldn't do it. He insinuated you were a racist. I

14:21

think that... Pretty much said I was a racist because

14:23

I've had a show 22 years and never had a

14:26

black co-host like I Hire My Co-host. Because

14:28

Peter's here. Shows I don't hire the co-host. That's a

14:30

great point, buddy. That's the drop the mic moment, but

14:33

he probably doesn't know the ins and

14:35

outs of the show. So if you don't know the ins and

14:37

outs of the business, to drop that kind of... It's

14:40

kind of like what Rogers did to Kimmel. How could he possibly

14:42

erase it? For people that don't know. He

14:44

didn't call you that. He found an article

14:47

of somebody insinuating that and reposted it. Right.

14:49

So he had somebody else do the work. Wait a minute. He's got it

14:51

in his fingers. He

14:54

took issue with Michael being

14:56

critical of him when

14:58

people pointed out to him, this is

15:00

how Strowman acts. And this is that

15:03

duke behavior that I find so weak.

15:06

When someone pointed out to him on Twitter,

15:08

look what this guy Michael K says about

15:10

you. He then went

15:12

and found an article that said something

15:14

nasty about Michael and just reposted it.

15:16

Yeah. He might not have even read it. Just

15:19

knew that it was negative. And

15:21

if there was that Aaron Rodgers moment on

15:23

McAfee with Strowman, he would tell you that.

15:26

I didn't say that. I was reposting a

15:28

negative article about him. But

15:31

still, you don't like... He's

15:33

a nozzle. Eleven starts at

15:35

Yankee Stadium, where he'll be pitching half

15:37

of his games. Two and six,

15:41

6.06 ERA, allowed

15:44

eight home runs and eleven starts, allowed

15:46

a 301 batting average and a whip of 1.64.

15:51

These are the things you have to look at at any 32. A

15:53

lot of these starts when he was with the Blue Jays when

15:55

he was a young stud. Right.

15:57

But, you know, right-hand a pitcher, short, poor.

16:00

You know he pitched well in New York Michael in 2021. I don't think

16:02

he's not someone that

16:05

can't handle New York. Like the

16:07

insinuation about not pitching well at Yankee Stadium

16:09

is that he can't handle the big crowd

16:11

he can't handle. He's from here. I

16:13

don't think it's that. It just might not be. I don't

16:16

think it's that. Maybe it's the stadium. He's pitching against the

16:18

8th. That didn't work. You know an 8th games as a

16:20

road guy. I mean he did win a couple of games.

16:23

And by the way it's the worst of

16:25

any stadium he's ever pitched in. So I

16:27

get that. And if you want to have

16:29

a conversation that you don't want him because

16:31

you don't think he's good enough to be

16:34

in the rotation, have at it. But we're

16:36

having more of a conversation of his personality

16:39

and also compared to what alternatives do

16:41

you have, Michael? On the current

16:43

roster and off. Where does he fit in the pecking

16:45

order? If you were to list the top 10 options

16:48

for guys that could be in this

16:50

rotation. Here's the problem, Don. The other

16:52

options are better but they're much

16:55

more expensive either in draft capital or

16:57

player capital. But that's part two. I

17:01

mean, would you rather have Jordan Montgomery?

17:03

Yes. Would you rather have Blake Snell?

17:05

Yes. Would you rather have Corbin Burns?

17:07

Yes. But when you're giving analysis on

17:10

what's best for the team, you know finances do

17:12

come into play. As much as Yankee

17:14

fans will say finances shouldn't come into play and

17:16

they should spend whatever. Money shouldn't be an object.

17:19

We know that it is. So

17:21

they're going to factor that in for sure. So

17:23

that moves him up the pecking order, doesn't it?

17:26

How cheap he may be. And the

17:28

cheaper it is, the easier it is to get out of it

17:30

if he does become a nice. Yeah, but this isn't going to

17:32

be a bargain, Don. Again, he's going to have to make more

17:34

than the 21 million or 23 million

17:36

a year that he made with the Cubs. So

17:38

it's not a bargain. It's just I just think

17:40

that the prices for pitching have gone through the

17:43

roof that you probably can't get Montgomery

17:45

for less than 27 a year. And

17:48

you know, since Boris represents Snell and

17:50

also represents Rodin, he's going to want

17:52

more than the 160 something that Rodin

17:55

got. So the Yankees know the

17:57

prices there and the guy like, you know,

18:00

Burns gonna take a lot of a lot of

18:02

players to get them. Let's go to James in

18:05

Hawthorne, what's up James? Hi

18:07

James. Hey guys. Thanks for taking the call. You

18:09

got it What's um first before I get to

18:11

the point? I do have to say Michael if

18:14

they do get strowman I think he

18:16

definitely owes you an apology For

18:18

a guy like me under 30. I

18:20

know you're gonna you're not gonna be objective about this You

18:23

know, you probably be humble about it, but you are the

18:26

voice of the Yankees Like that's not

18:28

me being a sycophant. That's just saying the truth like

18:30

for a guy young guy like me I grew up

18:32

listening to you and you can't

18:34

install Yeah, no

18:36

true, but even more so than John like,

18:38

you know, most young kids are watching TV

18:41

You can't insult the Yankee commentator

18:44

and you know, not address that if you come to

18:46

the team But I don't think he's coming

18:48

to the team I think that it's

18:50

a ploy like you said to drive

18:52

down prices because I

18:54

just think cashman's not gonna take that I think

18:56

his egos too big. I think

18:59

that the same reason why they probably haven't even signed

19:01

Montgomery I don't think they want to I don't think

19:03

he wants to go back to you know

19:05

in a word He's vomit and have to Overpay

19:08

for Montgomery and I don't think they're gonna get

19:10

strowman personally I think his ego is just not

19:12

gonna let it happen James. First of all, I

19:15

thank you for the very lovely compliment We appreciate

19:17

your call. I don't think Brian's

19:19

not the way you guys think does he have an

19:21

ego? Everybody has an ego It's whether how big the

19:23

ego is. I mean everybody in every

19:25

walk of life has an ego. It's part of

19:27

you know The

19:29

soul is part of the body, you know ego and

19:31

it I get it But he will

19:33

never ever let that affect which which players he

19:35

goes after. I'm sorry. He wouldn't If

19:38

he thinks strowman is the best option for the

19:40

Yankees You think he cares that strowman has obliterated

19:43

him in social media? He will not care And

19:46

I think they would go right back to Jordan Montgomery

19:49

But I think the price is too high It's

19:52

just too high They're probably thinking we traded this

19:55

guy because we didn't think he could make the

19:57

rotation for the playoffs that year and

19:59

now we're gonna 27 million dollars, maybe they

20:01

will. Maybe they will. And

20:03

for those that say it was a terrible deal,

20:06

they don't make the ALCS two

20:08

years ago without Harrison Bader. Sorry.

20:11

He had five home runs in the postseason. He

20:13

got them past the Cleveland series. So

20:15

if you look at it just in terms of that

20:17

one year, I don't know

20:19

if they get past Guardians with Montgomery.

20:22

They needed Bader. So

20:25

is it going to the World Series? No, but it was going to

20:27

the ALCS. They don't go there without

20:29

Bader. They just don't. Peter

20:32

and Edison. Peter. Hello.

20:35

Hello, Peter. How are you doing? Well, great. How

20:38

are you doing? I'm doing good. So

20:43

basically, if Marcus Stroman, you

20:46

know, I'm not a big fan of the guy,

20:48

you know, he has obviously, you know, a big

20:50

social media presence. It's not. And

20:53

he makes a lot of drama. But I'm

20:55

looking at some of his stats. And, you

20:58

know, he does have a close to almost 50

21:00

percent ground ball percentage. So that's something that you

21:02

look for in Yankee Stadium. But

21:05

it just comes down to the point with is he

21:07

a guy that's really going to help your team? And

21:10

we know that his stats at Yankee Stadium haven't been that great.

21:12

And you know, Don did say that he did

21:14

pitch well with the Mets. But

21:16

that was in the hitters in

21:19

a pitcher's park, you know, so he feels

21:21

not exactly hitter-friendly. So I'm just trying to

21:23

see, like, is this really going to help

21:25

the team overall? Well,

21:29

thank you, Peter. I don't think it

21:31

hurts it in terms of they need pitching. So

21:34

what pitching are you going to get? Is

21:37

he better than Clark

21:39

Schmidt? Yeah, he probably

21:41

is. Is

21:43

he more of a sure thing than

21:46

Nestor and Rodon?

21:51

Nestor's coming off a shoulder injury. How

21:54

can you predict what he's going to be? Rodon

21:56

was hurt for most of the first half

21:58

of the season, finished terribly. I still

22:00

think he's a good pitcher and they're going to have a good

22:02

year out of it at some point but

22:05

it's the sure thing. The only sure thing the

22:07

Yankees have is Garakol. So

22:11

they've improved their offense tremendously by getting Soto

22:13

but you got to get outs. So

22:16

maybe they're deciding do we want to get

22:18

a starting pitcher or do we want to improve the

22:20

bullpen? Do we go after Josh Hader? Don't

22:23

know. But right now it's

22:26

being reported by guys that are reputable in

22:28

the industry that they seem

22:30

to be moving closer. Thanks

22:33

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22:44

Five o'clock hour we're going to talk to Dan Arlovski. He

22:46

saw a lot of stuff to hit him about. Pete

22:49

Carroll speaking right now gave

22:51

thanks to what a great run that he

22:53

had in Seattle. But we'll ask Dan about

22:55

the coaching carousel and where people are going

22:57

to end up, the Wink Martindale situation. Pat

23:01

McAfee, if you just tuned in, said that Aaron Rodgers

23:03

will not be on the rest of the football season

23:06

which according to Andrew Marshawn he is

23:08

contractually signed to do but

23:10

they decided not to do because too much drama

23:12

involved and we're talking about whether the Yankees

23:14

are really interested in Marcus Stroman or

23:16

not. So let's go to G.B.

23:19

in Merrick. G.B. Gentlemen,

23:22

always a pleasure. Thanks for all you do for New York and taking

23:24

my call. I hope you guys are doing well. All good. How

23:27

are you? You know, K. Good. Thank

23:29

you. You know, K,

23:31

you're so right on the money

23:33

piece when it comes to pitchers.

23:36

And what are we paying for? Five

23:38

innings, six innings. You

23:41

know, we should be paying contracts for how

23:43

many innings? We should be looking at how

23:45

many pitches? We should be looking at how many games

23:47

some of these guys are playing. When

23:50

I get off the phone, like, give me

23:52

the next three guys that really pitch besides

23:54

Cole. Complete games. Eight,

23:56

nine innings. I Do think Robon could be

23:58

that guy. If

24:00

eat healthy slide across the league is astronomical.

24:03

The money were given guys smirk your great

24:05

tits or if you did five innings with

24:07

no hit saw a vibrating would run run

24:09

out some and of it's confusing to me

24:12

really aren't We talked about in laws and

24:14

it's these organizations that are doing is it's

24:16

they. Can't wait to pull these pictures on

24:18

After the third time through Skyn for every

24:21

Gerrit Cole was Michael, three or four other

24:23

pitchers in the rotation, they can't wait to

24:25

get to the bullpen special in the bullpen

24:28

is good sign for the pitchers. Their.

24:30

Bread this way within the organizations in the managers

24:32

can we to get him out. He.

24:35

Got the census showed the i mean clearly

24:38

showed us or started with your pincers. Don't

24:40

this that while? But ah my argument is

24:42

on a certain temperature good at it like

24:45

when when snow was pissing in the

24:47

World Series rice you took her mouth any

24:49

I used as or was Missoula know enter

24:51

he took him out night I know

24:53

I don't get it, how are those numbers

24:55

apply but it didn't on one hundred percent

24:58

accurate the development every single time. It's

25:02

weird and asks that Alarming Derek

25:04

Comics: Thirty six million dollars a

25:06

year and in today's present climate.

25:09

That a taser secret. Real bargain.

25:14

Taxable Every five days he gives you

25:16

seven innings. At least every five day

25:18

was a bullpen every five deaths. Don't

25:20

want to piss? Is that? why not

25:22

exist anymore? I know what. It's so

25:24

weird that he makes as much money

25:26

are close to as much money. is

25:28

Aaron Judge? Because. You're only

25:31

impacting one every five games. You react

25:33

other games by giving them when I

25:35

die good. As for the that, the money's

25:37

it's as you did. You can make

25:39

the Bureau. So talking about one of the

25:41

best pitchers a major league baseball but

25:43

some of the money to twenty seven million

25:45

dollars from For Rod toward Montgomery Come

25:47

man how we get. We're getting out of

25:50

our minds here. For you

25:52

say, fleming me, give the kid Yamamoto

25:54

all that money Muslims as soon as

25:56

a game in the brutal numbers. With

25:58

that too. The I think

26:01

overall. Feel. Of or every beverage

26:03

couple of pitchers real like he's worth every penny.

26:05

I'm sure the Yankees are not regretting the contract

26:07

they gave call right now. That.

26:10

The overwhelming majority of pitchers are way overpaid

26:12

and in most of the organizations regret the

26:14

given that monica they always get hurt. The

26:17

Impact one out of every five games and and

26:19

the way the analytics tell you is your heart

26:21

to go to the bullpen and take a mouse.

26:23

Were at the end of the game you find

26:26

out that the oh didn't matter that he started

26:28

because the bullpen blow it or the often said

26:30

that of scoring enough runs you would have won

26:32

the game no matter who started any wife are

26:34

yeah, how many games are you really impacting. To.

26:37

Deserve more money than I guess somebody

26:39

else on the T. It's it's it's is.

26:41

We're dichotomy because as you said that

26:43

breeding sisters appear tried earnings. But.

26:46

They're paying them as brother Bob Gibson Death

26:48

Twenty A complete do you not Getting completed

26:50

moves. And yet every single time in recent

26:52

memory the Yankees been eliminated from the playoffs

26:54

has been because of the fact they didn't

26:56

get another. That's right, and enough runs. Go

26:59

To Stephen Merrick. Are

27:02

you know you guys? Are

27:04

you students these sites So

27:06

on a plane to Little

27:08

as scenario for yeah man

27:10

it's opening day Yankee Stadium

27:12

places paths size Strawman has

27:14

and yet thrown at church

27:16

in a game sees wind

27:19

up down the line with

27:21

the rest of his dreams

27:23

and a call at his

27:25

name on the lid on

27:27

the public address and. I'm

27:30

curious what the reaction is because the

27:32

fan base. Knows. Zero

27:34

is a story in the negative: A

27:36

Streets. I think it's it starts to snowball rolling

27:39

down the else and I don't know the it's

27:41

in ever stop it and the then what he

27:43

thinks. Well steve I think that they will tear

27:45

and runway. Ah,

27:47

I know who I'm at. The first

27:49

sign of ineffectiveness my me of a

27:51

mobile. He's also a New York. This

27:53

is a New York City normal I'll

27:55

as he went off to the Yankees

27:57

organization. He. Wants to play? The

28:00

Yankees As always a plus for New York

28:02

fans that they want to said he did.

28:04

the a player wants to play for them.

28:06

if he has a good spring he does

28:08

all the right things. Been a Yankee remember

28:10

he went after an organization that lot a

28:12

Yankee fans are in love with. The begin

28:14

with I grew the I. These idiots here

28:16

still be a very short leash what it

28:18

is like that for every free and I

28:20

don't buy guard said this and tell you

28:22

this thing is not about the fact that

28:24

he said things about the Yankees before that

28:27

was out of bitterness because of how much

28:29

she wanted to be. A yang rise Yankee

28:31

fans will almost appreciate. That's the problem

28:33

is not the immediate reception, some awesome

28:35

flames, treasury bills nor show who have

28:37

heard asked how to talk about I'm

28:39

forth by and large everyone will be

28:41

fine. reduce you will be how he

28:43

reacts when things don't go his way

28:45

and he starts to hear the chirping.

28:47

it's not to me at all about

28:49

with reaction is now if he shows

28:52

up next year. Any

28:54

solid it's he's got an E r a

28:56

of of sorry if he if he wins

28:58

for seems seems that everybody. Hates I'll be

29:01

going. Reverend Wright is only his sword

29:03

soon. Poorly, He starts here in The

29:05

Boomers that what does he do on

29:07

social media later and is that completely

29:09

devolve? And and the for I am

29:11

in the New York media is not

29:14

as tough as it used to be

29:16

or as it's portrayed. Okay, ah, it's

29:18

about as nice as I could put

29:20

it, but there are still some all

29:22

time guys. If

29:24

he struggles. And

29:26

the First arms or Sermon writes a column because

29:28

Jesus says it like it isn't terror and will

29:31

be and will probably have club us the next

29:33

day. If you have some say don't go forth

29:35

That will be an interesting. Interactions.

29:38

How. Will you be reacting to Jewels

29:41

column in the back of your posts?

29:43

Ripping images are putting well. How

29:46

Iraq. And the

29:48

way the relationship is with a median

29:50

the fans michael it might emboldened the

29:52

fans to tear form even louder. Fields.

29:55

who knows his the here's one thing about new

29:57

york to china hip to this town of stuff

29:59

that is If everybody thinks they're going to boo him,

30:01

they'll cheer him. Like they'll, and

30:03

remember it's usually a younger audience that

30:05

boos or cheers, Michael. They

30:07

might dig him. The fact

30:10

that if he comes here and says, I mean

30:12

I always wanted to be a Yankee and he

30:14

has a really good spring, they won't think about

30:16

all the other stuff. I'm with you, it's all

30:18

about how he goes out there and performs, but

30:21

certain guys get, you know,

30:23

just get a pass here and if he just

30:25

for whatever reason is endearing to the fans in

30:28

some way, shape or form, do you think of,

30:30

you know, who are they going to side with,

30:32

him or Joel Sherman or him or you and

30:34

me going after him? You know how the fans

30:36

feel about the media. They'll only side

30:39

with him if he pitches well. They will

30:41

get behind him if he pitches well, no matter what.

30:43

If he pitches well, then he's not going to be

30:45

criticized by Joel Sherman or us. Right.

30:48

But I'm saying, but if he gets criticized

30:50

for maybe being a little nozzling on Twitter

30:53

and there's an article or we say something or

30:55

hey, that's a bad job out of him, the

30:57

fans will all come to his rescue and support

30:59

him if he's pitching well and then we're the

31:01

bad guys. So his relationship

31:03

with the media, Michael, as long as he's pitching

31:06

well, even if it's a bad relationship because he's

31:08

being maybe nozzling or whatever, the

31:10

fans will still get behind him because he's pitching well

31:12

and defend him. Robert

31:14

and Indiana. Indiana. Hey

31:17

guys. What's going on? Hey,

31:19

I was just thinking about, you know, Strowman. We're

31:23

going to have to have guys

31:26

like that to win. Soto.

31:31

I mean, you're

31:34

not the Chinese model where you're

31:36

building from within. You're

31:40

doing somewhere where you're

31:42

winning now. You got to have guys like

31:44

this. You can't limit our plane. Your

31:47

line is terrible, Robert. You're going to have to call back on

31:49

a hard line. I get what you're saying, but

31:53

you can't say there's nothing out there. There are

31:55

other free agent pitchers out there. If

31:58

they get Strowman. It's

32:01

probably because they're desperate to get a

32:03

picture in this price range and

32:06

they might think that

32:10

what Jordan Montgomery or Blake Snell

32:12

will command is an overpay. And

32:16

that's their right to think it's an overpay. That's

32:18

their right. But you can

32:20

drop down to a certain level of

32:22

financial commitment if the guy's not good

32:25

enough. If a woman's

32:27

lifetime ERA went around

32:29

3-7, which is not bad,

32:31

the velocity on his sinker, which

32:34

is his money pitch because he keeps the ball on the

32:36

ground, has been going down over the years because he's 32

32:38

years old. If he

32:40

can pitch, I agree with Don, they'll hold

32:43

their nose, they'll go through the fact that

32:45

he's blocked half of Yankee Nation, he's taken

32:47

on the Yankees and completely ripped them since

32:49

they didn't get him in 2019. He's

32:54

obliterated Cashman every chance that he could

32:56

get in a really mocking tone. Seems

32:59

like he reveled when the Yankees couldn't win because

33:01

Cashman said that he couldn't help us. So,

33:03

I mean, does he have a last laugh if Cashman has

33:06

to turn to him? Maybe he does. But

33:10

great deodorant is success. Let's

33:12

go to Vinny in Florida. Vinny. Hey,

33:14

guys. Hey, Vin. What's up,

33:16

Vin? I just

33:19

wanted to say and listen to you guys just as

33:21

much as I can down here in Florida. I love

33:24

you guys. New York moved down here like 19 years

33:26

ago and I love you guys. Just wanted to start

33:28

off with that. And

33:30

I think what the Yankees need to do, and

33:32

correct me if I'm wrong, trade

33:34

Mr. Torres to the Marlins down here for

33:36

one of those three stud pitches because next

33:39

year when he's up for contract, they're going

33:41

to have to give him a boatload and

33:43

they're going to need every penny for Soto

33:46

and we aren't going to win with pitching. So

33:48

I think that's something they should definitely think about

33:50

and I wanted your thoughts on that. I

33:56

think the Yankees have to make

33:58

a very, very informed. decision right

34:00

away is

34:04

glabritor is in your future. Now,

34:06

if he's in your future, you probably have to

34:08

lock away 29, 28

34:10

to $30 million a year to sign them. Do

34:14

you think you're going to do that? And if

34:16

you don't think you're going to do that, then you have two choices.

34:18

Ride with him this year, where he's probably going to put

34:20

together a great year, because he's going to be a free

34:22

agent or get rid of them

34:24

and get something for him rather

34:27

than draft compensation. So

34:29

if they decide they're not going to sign them and they're going

34:31

to try to sign it Soto, Soto, can

34:34

you do both? Yeah, you could do both,

34:36

but it's not probably financially responsible. Then you

34:38

probably could get something from the Marlins for

34:40

glabritor. But the Yankees have

34:42

also rebuilt their offense and

34:44

Don, if you replace Torres

34:46

with Oswald Paraza, are you really

34:48

taking a step back? That will

34:51

hurt you. I'm glad

34:53

I don't have to make these decisions. That's a

34:55

tough one. Now, what's the

34:57

money situation with all those pitchers in Florida?

35:00

They're, they all make nothing. Yeah. So those are not

35:03

the guys that I would love to get Lazardo, but

35:05

that's what the Marlins are going to try to hold

35:07

onto. They're not that far away. And why would they

35:09

be giving up guys that they don't have to pay

35:11

yet? Now, I don't know when they become free agents.

35:13

That's usually when you can get them. But if

35:16

they're bargains, Michael, wouldn't the Marlins want to hold on to

35:18

them? Yeah. But the morning was probably also want to make

35:20

them want to make the playoffs and they need offense and

35:22

you know, they've got a lot of pitching. So

35:24

they have to choose which pitcher they want to give up. Yeah.

35:28

But I mean, that's the way the Yankees could turn because

35:31

you look at tradable assets, Glaiver Torres

35:33

is going to command something

35:35

good because you know what, he's a good player. But

35:38

is he a good enough player for you to keep long-term

35:40

at the end of this year? That's the question the Yankees

35:42

have to ask. All right.

35:45

Time for Peter. And Peter, when

35:47

somebody, what was that great movie with Vince

35:50

Vaughn? Swingers? No.

35:53

No. When the great line, interesting,

35:55

interesting strategy caught. And let's see

35:57

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TMKS ESPN you know

36:43

there's a lot that's been said

36:46

about the Dolphins in the Chiefs game

36:48

sure that's going to be on Peacock

36:51

and I guess you can sign up for Peacock

36:53

which is for $5.99 there's two tiers so $5.99

36:56

or $10 something and you can watch the

37:01

game and cancel it well you

37:03

know what the beauty is you'd

37:06

still have in a couple weeks and you can

37:08

enjoy the wonderful Royal Rumble that last Saturday in

37:10

January how about that there you go so a

37:13

lot of the criticism from

37:16

a lot of people in our business well

37:19

the NFL it's

37:21

all a money grab you know they

37:23

it's like it's never enough any

37:25

of the people that say that right have they

37:27

ever turned down money on their contracts or

37:30

do they go for the last one or two I

37:32

mean then I don't know if

37:34

I like that that cop exactly why because I

37:36

think it's terrible that people have to pay for

37:39

get I get it but to

37:41

criticize the NFL which by the way is

37:44

not a nonprofit it's

37:46

it's a business they got a

37:48

hundred and ten million dollars right

37:52

from Peacock for this one game that's three million

37:54

dollars a team is anything to sneeze at no

37:57

but and I don't want to get like into somehow into

37:59

some like The political conversation

38:01

rise by the same logic

38:03

you're using. Then

38:05

it goes back to what I was saying

38:07

last week. I understand why General Mills is

38:09

randomly up their prices to eight dollars a

38:11

box because the to get more money. Why?

38:14

Not just keep sucking more from people they

38:16

need serial rights or what point do you

38:19

draw the line of going? So yes, wanted

38:21

to turn down money. If your employer offers

38:23

a to you, it's another thing to keep

38:25

demanding that your patrons who have supported your

38:28

league to keep hemorrhaging money even though none

38:30

of them are making more money. Now the

38:32

case of P Talk, I don't think it's

38:34

that big a deal to ask people to

38:37

pay five bucks for one playoff games. Okay,

38:39

but in general that logic, especially from the

38:41

Nfl who charges a ton for absolutely everything,

38:43

right? Now endless

38:45

Michael They print money. They get ratings

38:48

that and no other sport or even

38:50

programs in ever dream of. And

38:52

oh, by the way, they just laid off two hundred

38:55

employees to the. The.

38:57

Nfl the are so what's my it

38:59

it's a bad job it's a bad

39:01

luck to they do it is it

39:03

is a bad luck or not going

39:05

argue about that. But. It's

39:08

a business now. The way it

39:10

stops, you keep pushing people. And

39:12

people finally say enough. but I don't think

39:15

that on nuff as in the vocabulary of

39:17

fans when it comes to fulfil. Understood

39:20

but you know, but at the it's not right

39:22

to take them off. any other things does. Did

39:24

the arrogance of just the making it seem like

39:26

I should be excited about. Oh.

39:28

History will be made. False advertising for

39:30

a playoff game itself on author time

39:32

is know that that's exactly what it

39:34

is, but it's still insulting. And

39:37

I guess said you. Every

39:40

every sport dreams of getting these types

39:42

of right. It's incredible. television shows t

39:44

been stiff these ratings and you know

39:46

what? they're not going to get great

39:48

ratings. A Peacock. And. they might

39:51

get nine million people wanted it's gonna cost

39:53

us and is been listening to what they're

39:55

saying three three million seem it's worth it

39:57

my but it's a but you have to

39:59

go friends and And listen,

40:01

will those fans go away? No, they won't.

40:03

And that's why they'll continue to do it.

40:07

But you still, this is the

40:09

one thing I would say to Roger Goodell. The

40:11

one thing that you always have to be aware

40:13

of is the continuing growth of

40:16

your sport and making sure that the next

40:18

generation is interested in your sport. And I

40:20

guess that's why they'll say, well, that's why

40:22

we go to the app because this is

40:24

the future. But there

40:26

could be a dad out there that would

40:28

watch that game, that is now not going to watch that

40:30

game because they're not a chief fan and they're not going

40:33

to watch the, you know, they're not as interested in the

40:35

game. So they won't watch that day.

40:39

And there could be a fan that's lost or there

40:41

could be somebody that's really ticked off and say, all

40:43

right, I'm done. And it maybe it's not a majority

40:45

of people. It's not a lot of people, but you

40:48

tick off a few and

40:50

they know a few or their kids end up not

40:52

being as into football as they would have been. You

40:55

just don't want to be in the business of taking

40:57

any fan off and never take it for granted that

40:59

they're always going to be there. But Don, they

41:01

did the unconscionable thing of seat licenses,

41:03

which essentially was pay us money so

41:05

you could pay us money. And

41:08

that didn't tick people off. It got rid of

41:10

a lot of the waiting lists, but you want

41:12

the place to still be there. But it's also

41:14

not anywhere near where their

41:17

revenue stream is. I mean, they could

41:19

be empty every single Sunday and still

41:21

print money because the overwhelming majority of

41:23

their money comes from television and the

41:26

overwhelming majority of people that

41:28

consume it on television. I know diehard football

41:30

fans that have never been to an

41:32

NFL game, but have no interest in

41:34

ever going to an NFL game. The TV contracts that

41:36

they're under now run out for 10 years. They don't

41:38

have to worry about anything. I

41:41

just don't think you should ever be in the business

41:43

of taking people off. And the money that they're going

41:45

to make is a drop in the bucket to money

41:47

that they make. You telling me that there wouldn't be

41:49

an over the air offer that would be comparable to

41:51

that? No, there wasn't because there's

41:53

three games on NBC and the plus, but

41:56

NBC wants to have people check out

41:58

Peacock, download the app. I do

42:00

the whole thing to go through it. Now that

42:02

will probably, I don't know what it would get.

42:05

Because what's the average on Amazon? Amazon, maybe

42:07

9, 10 million? No,

42:10

13, 14, this will be about 9. Alright,

42:13

now listen, it may be about the

42:15

same just because it's a playoff game as opposed

42:17

to just a regular season game. It's

42:20

still probably about 7 or 8 million more

42:22

or less than it would get over the

42:25

air. So why would you ever be in

42:27

the business of

42:30

losing 7 million

42:32

viewers on something? Because

42:34

they calculated it's worth almost $4 million

42:36

a team. We'll

42:38

lose the viewers at one game. Because I'll never begrudge

42:40

with baseball or any of the other do. They

42:43

hemorrhage money during COVID. They don't make

42:45

nearly as much money as the NFL

42:47

does, but it's just amazing the money

42:49

that they make. And

42:52

I just, I can understand a fan being ticked off.

42:54

I don't know if I'll watch. I

42:56

mean if I happen to be home, I'll watch.

42:58

No, I don't. You don't even know if you do,

43:00

do you? My

43:04

television right now is like my finances. It's

43:07

all into what Nancy wants or how. I have no idea.

43:09

I have no idea if I have peacock. But

43:12

even if I did, I don't

43:14

know. If I'm home, you

43:16

know it's the really tough thing. I'll probably listen to it on the

43:18

radio. That's where I end up watching, listen, what my game is doing

43:20

because I'm running around doing something. That might be

43:22

a game I end up taking a knee on just because

43:24

I don't want to be bothered. The tough thing is NBC

43:27

Universal has all of Saturday.

43:31

And they said Browns, Texans. You know what that sounds

43:33

like? Free TV. Kansas

43:35

City, Miami. Good. And fork over the

43:37

six bucks. Now again, you know what else? I think

43:40

Dom might have mentioned this earlier in the week. You

43:43

think all the Swifties are going to pay? See, maybe

43:45

get a look at Taylor. It's

43:48

a smart move by them. What

43:50

a hard pressed fan you have to

43:52

be to watch a game, to pay

43:54

for a game, to see your favorite

43:56

artist sitting and watching. Give the NFL

43:58

credit. be over the air

44:01

in Miami and Kansas City. Right. Well,

44:03

I think legally they have to do that. But at

44:06

the same time, because the Chiefs have been so

44:08

good the last decade, and I'm telling you, it's

44:10

a very underrated fan base, Miami. There's Dolphin fans

44:12

all over everywhere. All right, Gordon Damer who works

44:14

here is a Dolphin fan. I know a lot

44:16

of Dolphin fans. Those people

44:18

are going to have to watch it on Peacock. And so

44:21

it's going to tick a lot of people off. I just

44:23

don't think any business should ever be in a position where

44:26

they're going to tick people off. And

44:28

be careful of the addiction. I know it

44:30

sounds ridiculous when we went through a pandemic and a

44:32

work stoppage and all that stuff, Michael. But

44:34

you know, you go back 75 years

44:36

ago, baseball was untouchable. It

44:39

was our nation's past time. It was

44:41

bigger than any other sport. It wasn't

44:43

close. And now,

44:46

now it's competing with the NBA for number two. And

44:49

in some markets, losing. So nothing's

44:52

forever. In

44:54

the five o'clock hour, I'm going to rank for

44:57

you guys the NFL playoff games in order of

44:59

sexiness. Would you like to know? I can't wait.

45:01

So it's a sexy meter. It's a sex meter.

45:04

And we have a sexy guest too with Dan

45:06

Arlovski. That's right. Well, I'm going to warm you

45:08

up though for Dan by breaking

45:10

it down for you. All six games, sexiest

45:13

to least sexy. From

45:16

Michael K. naked eating pizza on

45:18

the chest to prime Suzanne

45:21

Summers. One through six. You

45:23

know what I mean? Yeah. I

45:25

have my line of cards, the latest team stats, and of course my mug

45:28

of Bigelow Tea. Dan was very, very great. With

45:30

a smooth taste that keeps my voice in peak condition,

45:32

even when the game goes in extra innings, I

45:34

refuse to settle. Neither should you. No

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