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the show today, the ANC to

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report back on its NWC

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meeting, and it's reports that

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it wants a G&U reset.

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The president's been speaking at

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the police summit. A mass

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protest in Matiteel as residents

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won justice for Tuetué and

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a South African youngster wins

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a global literacy award for

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his work with libraries.

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All of that over the

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next hour. The Midday Report

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with Mandy Wiener. Streaming on

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the Prime Media Plus app.

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Dostivi Channel 856. 92. And

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106 FM. Good afternoon, welcome

0:50

to the Maderere Porton 702 and

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Cape Talk with me, Mandy Wiener.

0:54

Good to be with you today.

0:56

We are watching a few different

0:58

things for you. There is that

1:01

mass protest taking place in Matitel.

1:03

Quite a lot of people joining

1:05

that protest underway at the moment

1:07

under the hashtag Justice for Kweekw,

1:09

the seven-year-old girl who, of course,

1:11

has been at the center of

1:13

this harrowing rape story. The police

1:15

minister Senzo Mutu was speaking about

1:17

that a few days. So that's

1:19

still something we're watching for you.

1:21

Speaking of the police minister, he

1:24

has been speaking earlier today. And

1:26

so too has President Cyril Rabaposa.

1:28

But what we are really waiting

1:30

for is the ANC Secretary General

1:32

Fakile Balula, who is giving a

1:34

briefing on the outcomes of the

1:36

NWC meeting. Central to this, of

1:38

course, is what will happen to

1:40

the Democratic Alliance in the government

1:43

of National Unity reports that the

1:45

ANC wants the DA once the

1:47

DA read... to the riot act

1:49

over its alleged continuous defiance of

1:51

the G&U. Inside is telling

1:53

EWR that the DA must

1:55

be held accountable for its

1:57

conduct, which has a time

2:00

being described as attempts to

2:02

undermine the GNU. Vekila Malula

2:04

at the podium right now.

2:07

Let's go live to Luturi

2:09

House and the speed is

2:12

courtesy of news from Africa.

2:14

The number of headlines which

2:17

were misleading, some. The National

2:19

Waking Committee convinced fortnightly and

2:22

it so happened that when

2:24

we convened this fortnight yesterday

2:27

there was a matter of

2:29

the budget impasse in Parliament.

2:32

And we need to inform

2:34

you that the officials of

2:37

the ANC meet every Monday,

2:39

not virtually, physically, at this

2:42

building on all but mutually

2:44

building on every Monday. So

2:46

we didn't convene a meeting

2:49

specifically to address the impasse

2:51

of the budget. But because

2:54

we are a political party

2:56

that is leading the government

2:59

of national unity, what happened

3:01

in Parliament in terms of

3:04

the voting and the impasse

3:06

constitute part of our ecological

3:09

content of our movement, that

3:11

there's no way that we

3:14

can have a meeting regular.

3:16

and not reflect on those

3:19

developments. The NWCA reaffirmed the

3:21

analysis characterization of the 2024

3:24

electoral outcomes as a strategic

3:26

setback and the government of

3:28

national unity as a technical

3:31

intervention. While we acknowledge the

3:33

decline in electoral support, the

3:36

ALC remains the largest political

3:38

force in the country. demands

3:41

principal clarity and technical sensitivity

3:43

to preserve access to state

3:46

power. Continue advancing the NDR

3:48

and rebuilding trust with our

3:51

people, especially the primary motive

3:53

forces of our revolution. The

3:56

National Working Committee considered four

3:58

technical options. in the post-election

4:01

context. One, assuming opposition. Two,

4:03

entering a grand coalition. Three,

4:05

establishing a minority government with

4:08

confidence and supply arrangements for

4:10

or constructing a G&U. We

4:13

excluded the opposition benches. as

4:15

they would have compromised the

4:18

transformation trajectory of the state.

4:20

We in-state opted for an

4:23

inclusive government of national unity,

4:25

which in itself means a

4:28

unity and struggle of the

4:30

opposites. So that's Fakila and

4:33

Boulouilla, the ANC Secretary General,

4:35

giving a brief background of

4:38

the ANC's electoral outcomes and

4:40

the choices that the ANC

4:43

made. We will go back

4:45

to him. But just while

4:47

we're waiting for him to

4:50

get through the background, Teddy

4:52

Madilla joining me in studio.

4:55

Teddy, what are you hearing

4:57

from what happened inside that

5:00

NWC meeting yesterday? Good afternoon,

5:02

Mandy. Can I just say

5:05

that Baluda now giving us

5:07

a brief rundown of how

5:10

the junior was formed is

5:12

actually a conversation we'll be

5:15

going back to because there

5:17

are currently in the race

5:20

to the bottom from where

5:22

I stand as far as

5:25

the agency's relationship with the

5:27

deer is concerned, based on

5:29

even last night's meetings. From

5:32

my understanding... they want to

5:34

revisit the negotiation with all

5:37

the junior partners as well

5:39

as the parties that have

5:42

assisted the ANC past the

5:44

first part of the budget.

5:47

of course, the fiscal framework.

5:49

Of course, this is in

5:52

relation to specifically, action and

5:54

essay, they do recognize that

5:57

they have an obligation to

5:59

honor an agreement that they

6:02

have on the table with

6:04

action and say, so they'll

6:07

also talk to action to

6:09

say, but as far as

6:11

the junior partners are concerned,

6:14

they wanna go back to

6:16

the negotiation table and have

6:19

a more formal constructive conversation

6:21

about what ought to be done in

6:23

a G&U and have rules that they

6:25

need to adapt to. From my understanding,

6:27

those rules will include. You have to

6:30

agree on a budget and you have

6:32

to agree on its population. You can't

6:34

challenge those matters in the courts. And

6:36

those of course are the two matters

6:38

that the D is taken to the

6:40

courts. It's a tacit acknowledgement, maybe not

6:42

so tacit, that they've always said 14

6:44

days is too short to try and

6:46

work this out. And it was done

6:48

under enormous pressure, so now they're almost

6:50

reopening those negotiations. But you also described

6:52

this as a constructive dismissal of the

6:54

D. I do think so Mandy. I

6:56

think if the conversation is going back

6:59

to the drawing table and there are

7:01

some NWC members suggest that there

7:03

should be a reshuffle, a reconfiguration

7:05

of cabinet and then they say

7:07

to you that reconfiguration of cabinet

7:09

cannot obviously allow for more ministers.

7:11

The country will not accept an

7:13

even bloated cabinet becoming even bigger.

7:15

So it's a question of if

7:17

you take an action and say

7:19

on, what positions do you give

7:21

them? And their suggestions are you

7:23

take them from the DA, I

7:25

don't see in what world the

7:27

DA, which only has six ministers

7:29

and six deputies, will accept that. They

7:31

want to read the Deere, the riot

7:33

act, Mandy, over the behaviors of ministers

7:36

like John Stanazin, Dima Fiesin, again how

7:38

the DA is going to accept being

7:40

told that the views that John Stein

7:42

is in and spoke of regarding Vladimir

7:44

Putin of Russia being seen as an

7:47

ally and a friend that opposition to

7:49

that view is something that they will

7:51

accept. I don't think that they will

7:53

accept civil coup and not being present

7:55

for the signing of the Bella Act

7:58

even though she says she'll implemented. What

8:00

we mean by that,

8:02

you are part of

8:04

government, you are part

8:06

of the executive alliance,

8:08

let's hear what he

8:10

is saying. The right

8:12

government confused the public

8:14

and claim credit without

8:16

assuming responsibility. This dishonesty

8:18

undermines the very essence

8:20

of collective governance. What

8:22

we mean by that,

8:24

you are part of

8:26

government, you are part

8:29

of the executive. You

8:31

don't represent a political

8:33

party in the executive.

8:35

You are running South

8:37

Africa as a government.

8:39

And it's a choice

8:41

that you make as

8:43

a political party to

8:45

be part and parcel

8:47

of government. You equally

8:49

have a choice not

8:51

to be part of

8:53

government. But government is

8:55

run by rules. And

8:57

it governs all of

8:59

us, even those who

9:01

did not vote for

9:03

us. Government has got

9:05

to serve them. That

9:07

is the nature of

9:09

it. Of course, you

9:12

might be participating in

9:14

the government because you

9:16

want to leverage your

9:18

participation by showcasing that

9:20

your ministers, who come

9:22

from your party, can

9:24

do better, nothing wrong

9:26

with that. But at

9:28

the end of the

9:30

day, government is government.

9:32

You've got to win

9:34

debates within the executive.

9:36

You've got to process

9:38

your own issues, including

9:40

policy within the executive.

9:42

We are not shocked

9:44

and surprised when people

9:46

claim victories that were

9:48

scored in the Six

9:50

Administration in the different

9:52

portfolios that they occupy

9:55

because it is their

9:57

mission. But at the

9:59

end of the day,

10:01

we've got another mission

10:03

to serve beyond our

10:05

own self-interest and serve

10:07

South Africa. And what

10:09

is that interest? It

10:11

is called stability. We've

10:13

got to... the stable

10:15

run government in a

10:17

stable manner and it

10:19

doesn't that it is

10:21

a melting pot, that

10:23

you've got to agree

10:25

with everything. But at

10:27

the end of the

10:29

day, that is the

10:31

pattern that you've got

10:33

when you are in

10:36

government, to serve for

10:38

stability of the country.

10:40

and placed national interest

10:42

in social justice and

10:44

economic stability. At the

10:46

centre of the deliberations

10:48

on the fiscal framework,

10:50

parties such as Action

10:52

SA demonstrated maturity and

10:54

patriotism in supporting the

10:56

framework on the basis

10:58

that alternative revenue proposals

11:00

will be sought. including

11:02

the replacement of the

11:04

proposed VAT increase within

11:06

30 days. This collaboration

11:08

repositions parliament as a

11:10

site of negotiation, consensus

11:12

building, and progressive change.

11:14

They didn't have to

11:16

agree for the passing

11:19

of the framework, but

11:21

they addressed what I

11:23

was talking about stability.

11:25

And it doesn't mean

11:27

that they agree with

11:29

VAT. By the way,

11:31

all political parties we

11:33

talk to and engage

11:35

with disagree with VAT

11:37

increase. But it has

11:39

been very difficult as

11:41

to where are the

11:43

sources of replacement of

11:45

the 0.5 VAT are

11:47

going to come from.

11:49

And that is the

11:51

headache that the national

11:53

treasury and everybody is

11:55

grappling. Whish? We

12:02

reiterate that budgetary alternatives

12:04

must prioritize the protection

12:06

of the social wealth,

12:08

stimulate growth, and promote

12:10

job creation. At the

12:12

same time, we must

12:14

manage public debt and

12:16

build a capable developmental

12:19

state. The Agency's Economic

12:21

Transformation Committee includes collaboration

12:23

with the Chief With

12:25

Parliamentary Budget Office and

12:27

Treasury. We lead the

12:29

process of developing a

12:31

revised revenue framework rooted

12:33

in equity and developmental

12:35

imparted. Our engagement with

12:37

political parties will seek

12:39

to bring us to

12:41

this particular point as

12:43

the ANC. And we

12:45

recognize Treasury as an

12:47

independent. and above all

12:49

of us, committee and

12:51

the budget office and

12:53

the minister in this

12:55

regard. And that all

12:57

political parties that have

12:59

agreed on the framework

13:01

will work together as

13:03

we do at the

13:05

present moment by engaging

13:07

the minister and treasury

13:09

on alternatives, which is

13:11

quite constructive in this

13:13

regard in this regard

13:15

in this regard in

13:17

this regard, on alternatives,

13:19

which is quite constructive

13:21

in this regard in

13:23

this regard in this

13:25

regard in this regard

13:27

in this regard. We

13:30

are committed to ensuring that fiscal

13:32

consolidation does not come at the

13:34

expense of the poor, meaning teachers

13:37

must be employed, health workers must

13:39

be employed, and all of that.

13:41

That's what we prioritise. Okay, so

13:43

for Kila and Boulouilla, the ANC

13:46

Secretary General laboring his point there

13:48

somewhat about the NWCE's meeting. the

13:50

DA's approach of negotiating in bad

13:52

faith. This issue of in bad

13:55

faith has been central and has

13:57

underpinned the negotiations, the DA often

13:59

accusing the ANC of negotiating in

14:01

bad faith. Where do you feel

14:03

like this is going? I did

14:06

say to you just before I

14:08

went to Bailuda that I do

14:10

think it's a race to the

14:12

bottom Mandy. I mean last night

14:15

the NC made but the DA

14:17

also made last night. They had

14:19

a federal executive meeting and in

14:21

that particular meeting in the DA

14:24

majority of those who are serving

14:26

in government want out. There's a

14:28

few want to remain in government

14:30

but they're tired. They're kind of waiting

14:32

to see what the NC does, they're

14:34

waiting it out. But from an NC

14:37

perspective I think... also equally as tired.

14:39

And I think the difficulty from both

14:41

ends, Mandy, is that the DA doesn't

14:43

want to leave, it wants to be

14:45

pushed out, the AC doesn't want to

14:47

push the DA out, it wants to

14:49

have them leave. So what I feel

14:51

like is on the table, and we'll

14:53

hear from feeling belula, a set of

14:56

ideas that are designed in a way

14:58

to frustrate the DA, I don't see

15:00

how, as I say to you, the

15:02

DA will take well, to being issued

15:04

a reprimand, reprimand over its behavior. This

15:07

is something I think they want, but

15:09

you can't revisit and then say reconfigure

15:11

cabinet and give them even fewer posts

15:13

when they've been asking for more power.

15:16

I don't see how that's going to

15:18

go down well. City Medea, E.W. and

15:20

Associate Politics Editor, thank you very much

15:22

for killing the lead, somewhat. He is

15:25

still briefing the media about the NWC

15:27

media meeting that took place yesterday. So

15:29

we'll return to that in a short

15:31

while and keep you updated. And now,

15:33

it's back to Mandy Wiener on the

15:35

midday report. This is 702. Let's walk the

15:38

talk. 1224 on the midday report, Fikile

15:40

and Balula still addressing the media

15:42

on the outcomes of the NWC

15:45

meeting. We'll go back there in

15:47

a short while. Earlier today, Baldwin

15:49

South Africa Boza, also holding a

15:51

briefing hosted by leader Mussimay Mani,

15:54

about its next steps in the

15:56

national budget process. Babalo and Denze,

15:58

EWN reporter, was there. Bobalo, good

16:00

afternoon to you. What is

16:03

Musimai Mani saying? Yes, indeed,

16:05

Mandi, Musimai Mani, one of

16:07

these parties that are preparing

16:09

for tonight's meeting with the

16:11

ANC, now these are parties

16:13

who supported the budget when

16:15

it was adopted, the fiscal

16:18

framework, and you know, with

16:20

those conditions that were recommended

16:22

by action essay, but we

16:24

all know that this budget

16:26

contains that threat increase. Now

16:28

pending these recommendations, the parties

16:30

will be outlining at this

16:33

virtual meeting tonight. It was

16:35

initiated by A&C Chief of

16:37

Mutti, in Bouli, according to

16:39

Musimai Mani, who is basically

16:41

the de facto Chief of

16:43

Parliament as being the Chief

16:45

of the biggest party in

16:48

Parliament. And so Bas will

16:50

be making its own submissions

16:52

in this regard, Mandi, at

16:54

that meeting. And Musimai Mani

16:56

basically also affirming that there's

16:58

an appetite across all parties

17:00

to find a workable solution

17:03

going into that meeting. And

17:05

he says they've identified up

17:07

to 120 billion round. you

17:09

know this is a combination

17:11

of new revenue that can

17:13

be delivered you know based

17:15

on their suggestions and some

17:17

of these alternatives might be

17:20

familiar you know some other

17:22

parties at that standing committee

17:24

last week that adopted the

17:26

fiscal framework report also mentioned

17:28

there like for example Mandy

17:30

saving on foreign missions and

17:32

also you know cutting down

17:35

on the national empowerment fund

17:37

which is 20 billion and

17:39

phasing that out over three

17:41

years and also a syntax

17:43

mostly is quite keen on

17:45

having a syntax. being added

17:47

into these alternatives for online

17:50

gambling specifically. But let's just

17:52

take a listen to what

17:54

other suggestions that Moose My

17:56

Money put forward today, Mandy.

17:58

A 2% efficiency cut for

18:00

bloated provincial bureaucracies will deliver

18:02

a savings of 15.3 billion

18:05

brand. If we rationalize our

18:07

diplomatic missions and cut VIP

18:09

protection for politicians, we could

18:11

be able to get around

18:13

to about a 3 billion

18:15

rent savings. If we downsize

18:17

in the medium term the

18:20

size of the cabinet and

18:22

eliminate deputy minister's positions, which

18:24

is something we've always held,

18:26

you will find a 3.9

18:28

million dollars. billion around saving

18:30

them to that. We'll see

18:32

my mind is speaking at

18:34

that briefing about us earlier

18:37

today. Thank you to Babalo

18:39

and Denze for giving us

18:41

that update. Let's go back

18:43

to Latuli House. Vekile Malula

18:45

is still reading from a

18:47

prepared address giving the outcomes

18:49

of the NWC meeting. Let's

18:52

go back and listen in

18:54

and the sound is courtesy

18:56

of news from Africa. developmental

18:58

statehood. The working committee therefore

19:00

endorses and supports the coordinated

19:02

approach between the Department of

19:04

Trade and Industry and competition

19:07

and the Department of International

19:09

Relations and Corporation aimed at

19:11

defending our national interest while

19:13

avoiding isolation. This include accelerating

19:15

negotiations to secure fair and

19:17

just tariff agreements agreements. diversifying

19:19

trade partners and enhancing South-South

19:22

cooperation, depending regional integration through

19:24

the African continental free trade

19:26

area, prioritizing value-added production, and

19:28

beneficiation to protect jobs, supporting

19:30

localization to build a resilient

19:32

industrial capacity, and reinforcing solidarity

19:34

among middle powers. to resist

19:37

unilateralism and economic coercion. This

19:39

period demands more than diplomatic

19:41

caution. It demands ideological clarity.

19:43

We must not only navigate

19:45

these geopolitical storms, but use

19:47

them to reconfigure our revolutionary

19:49

posture in pursuit of a

19:52

more just, equitable and peaceful

19:54

global order. Our

19:56

foreign policy must remain uncut in

19:58

the ideals of the freedom, charter,

20:01

the pandemic spirit and the unity

20:03

of the oppressed nations of the

20:06

world. We owe it to our

20:08

people to defend their future on

20:10

the global stage with strategic

20:13

discipline and unwavering conviction.

20:15

The working committee reiterated

20:17

that we have a

20:20

historic responsibility to lead

20:22

society with vision, courage

20:24

and a firm grasp

20:26

of principle. We

20:29

will not see the

20:31

transformation agenda to those who

20:33

do not serve the interest

20:35

of the majority. Deferred

20:37

privilege or undermine

20:40

the national interest.

20:42

The genuine remains

20:44

a tactical instrument,

20:46

a shield against chaos

20:48

and fragmentation. However,

20:51

its sustainability requires

20:54

honesty. collective

20:56

discipline and

20:58

loyalty to the

21:01

people's mandate. In light

21:03

of current

21:05

developments, the working

21:08

committee resolved that

21:11

the working committee

21:13

resolved that we

21:15

will reset the pattern

21:18

to engage with all

21:20

political parties in the

21:23

journey. as well as

21:25

those who are not

21:28

in the G&U, to

21:30

address the impasse with

21:33

regard to the budget.

21:35

We intend to do

21:38

that within a period

21:40

of five days

21:42

to conclude the

21:44

period of negotiations

21:46

on the budget.

21:49

We agree with

21:51

a number of parties.

21:53

on a whole range of issues in

21:55

relation to the budget, the only

21:58

issue has been the question of

22:00

VAT increase. The agency will

22:02

continue to drive consensus on

22:04

key pillars of a developmental

22:06

fiscal policy, equitable and redistributive

22:09

tax policy, progressive management of

22:11

debt, and deficit levels. Fakila

22:13

Mbalula confirming that the ANC

22:15

will be pushing the reset

22:17

button on the G&U. 702,

22:20

the midday report, Monday to

22:22

Friday. 12 to 1 p.m.

22:24

1237 on the midday report

22:26

with me, Mandy, we know,

22:28

just to recap, Fakila and

22:30

Balula, the ANC Secretary General,

22:33

wrapping up the reading of

22:35

that prepared address, effectively confirming

22:37

that the ANC announced it

22:39

will... push the reset button

22:41

on the government of national

22:44

unity. This will take place

22:46

in the next five days.

22:48

Discussions will include those that

22:50

are not currently in the

22:52

G&U. So effectively resetting the

22:54

G&U, opening it up to

22:57

parties such as Action ESA,

22:59

as well in light of

23:01

the budget discussions. The NWC

23:03

acknowledged those political parties that

23:05

rose above partisanship and placed

23:08

national interest in economic stability

23:10

at the centre of deliberations.

23:12

Also critical of the... honesty

23:14

of the DA that is

23:16

in Ficile and Brula's words

23:19

which undermines the essence of

23:21

collective government so he'll be

23:23

taking questions now we'll keep

23:25

watching that for you meanwhile

23:27

President Cyril Ramaposa has been

23:29

speaking at a police summer

23:32

today alongside the police minister

23:34

sends out in Touno or

23:36

in Singh EWR and reporter

23:38

is there for us or

23:40

in good afternoon to you

23:43

tell us what the president

23:45

had to say. very open

23:47

and welcoming to this first

23:49

policing summit that's being hosted

23:51

here at Empress Palace. First

23:54

of the time, he emphasized

23:56

that this is a landmark

23:58

sort of event that is

24:00

aimed at ensuring that the

24:02

effectiveness of our police in

24:04

South Africa is actually honed

24:07

in on through engagements with

24:09

the private sector and various

24:11

stakeholders, CPFs, pop crew, and

24:13

a whole bunch of stakeholders

24:15

that have come here today

24:18

and will be sitting down

24:20

over the course of the

24:22

next few days to discuss

24:24

how they can better policing

24:26

in South Africa. himself was

24:28

adamant and emphasize that they

24:31

need to bridge the gap

24:33

between community involvement in and

24:35

policing, saying that the communities

24:37

really need to be briefed

24:39

on how to properly prevent

24:42

crime, but also be informed

24:44

about how to report crime

24:46

properly and work together with

24:48

various stakeholders in sorting that

24:50

sort of situation out within

24:53

the situation out within the

24:55

communities. People are going to

24:57

be meeting, gathering here over

24:59

the course of the next

25:01

three days. We had the

25:03

police minister and the national

25:06

commissioner here as well, but

25:08

a lot coming out from

25:10

the opening of this evention,

25:12

Mandy. Orrin, thank you very

25:15

much. Orrin Singh, E.W. and

25:17

reporter, listening to the president

25:19

speaking earlier at the police

25:22

summit, let's take a listen

25:24

to what some of what

25:26

the president had to say.

25:29

Crime has a direct impact

25:31

on the economy of our

25:33

country. It discourages investment. It

25:36

disrupts business activity and leads

25:38

to increased security costs, yes,

25:40

for companies. But crime is

25:43

also a symptom of wider

25:45

problems in a society. The

25:47

wider problems being poverty, inequality,

25:49

and unemployment. But also the

25:52

lack of opportunity of opportunity.

25:54

But also the lack of

25:56

opportunity. Also

25:59

the presence of patriarchy and misogyny

26:01

and also broken family structures that

26:04

are just breaking our family

26:06

fabrics apart. And these are some

26:08

of the causes of crime and

26:11

criminality. Addressing crime without understanding its

26:13

root causes. It's like being a

26:15

doctor treating a patient for

26:17

a fever without diagnising what the

26:20

underlying illnesses are. It is therefore

26:22

encouraging that this summit has as

26:25

one of its key objectives, adopting

26:27

a more holistic approach to

26:29

law enforcement, encompassing not just the

26:31

police, but the entire police system.

26:34

I'm particularly pleased that you've brought

26:36

together a number of stakeholders from

26:39

the safety and security establishment

26:41

communities, those who play a critical

26:43

role in ensuring that yes, there

26:45

is safety in our communities. President

26:48

Soro Romaposa speaking earlier today at

26:50

Emperor's Palace where their police

26:52

summit is taking place, the inaugural

26:55

summit addressing the high levels of

26:57

crime in South Africa. So while

27:00

that is happening, at the same

27:02

time we are seeing a mass

27:04

protest taking place in Matatiela in

27:07

the Eastern Cape where... hundreds literally

27:09

of people are protesting under the

27:12

hashtag Justice for Kuekwe, in light

27:14

of the rape of the seven-year-old

27:16

girl that has really captured the

27:19

country's attention. Malongeloboy, Newsroom Africa reporter,

27:21

is there for us. Slightly noisy

27:24

behind him as you will hear,

27:26

but he is in the

27:28

midst of that March taking... Thank

27:30

you very much for making time

27:33

for us. Tell us about what

27:35

is happening there, paint the picture

27:38

for us. Good afternoon, Mandy. I'm

27:40

actually outside the local police station

27:42

where activists and local residents are

27:45

actually processing any around the protests

27:47

that are tied to the local

27:50

school where the actual incident or

27:52

their alleged rape had actually taken

27:54

place. The people that are purchasing

27:57

maybe are actually unhappy. One of

27:59

the things that they are calling

28:02

for, according to the registration of

28:04

the schools, the tours are of

28:06

the schools altogether until the investigation

28:09

has been finalized because the thing

28:11

that it cannot be right, an

28:14

issue that was reported to

28:16

authorities in the total last year

28:18

has not actually been solved up

28:20

to today. So that's why then

28:23

we've decided to take to the

28:25

street and call for a complete

28:28

process of this town. What kind

28:30

of reception has there been to

28:32

this protest from authorities? Well, this

28:35

is not the first process of

28:37

this kind that we have seen

28:40

in this town over the past

28:42

seven days. I've spent seven days

28:44

here and this is in fact

28:47

the fourth or first night. Although

28:49

the people that will receive their

28:52

memorandum of police I will receive

28:54

their amendment and then promise to

28:56

hand it over to them for

28:59

more people. But for many, I

29:01

mean, one of the things

29:03

that is also similar to these

29:06

ones, one of the things that

29:08

people have been called for governments

29:10

to set up a presidential working

29:13

group to deal with the issue

29:15

of violence on women and children.

29:18

I appreciate your time. Thank you

29:20

very much. Malangelo, boy, Newsroom Africa

29:22

reporter speaking to us there. Madangalo,

29:25

I appreciate your time. Thank you

29:27

very much. Malangalo, boy, Newsroom Africa

29:30

reporter speaking to us there. as

29:32

that protest is underway. You can

29:34

hear behind him in Matatiel where

29:37

the community has really come

29:39

out. And the president speaking about

29:41

crime, violent crime, that is a

29:44

really good demonstration of that. And

29:46

at the same time, there has

29:48

been a shooting at the Weinberg

29:51

Court in Cape Town this morning.

29:53

I've been sent photographs of that

29:56

shooting, really graphic photographs of what

29:58

has happened there. We do have

30:00

a reporter on scene as well,

30:03

having a look at that. But

30:05

when you look at... at someone

30:08

effectively being shot in what is

30:10

clearly a targeted assassination on the

30:12

one of the wooden benches outside

30:15

the courtroom in the corridor of

30:17

the Weinberg Magistrates Court. That's just

30:20

a demonstration of the violent crime

30:22

in this country. And now it's

30:24

back to Mandy Wiener on

30:26

the midday report. This is 702.

30:29

Let's walk the talk. 1245. 1247

30:31

on the mid-day report with me,

30:34

Mandy, when a lot of messages

30:36

coming in in response to what

30:38

facile and belula has had to

30:41

say, hi Mandy, so the reset

30:43

button on G&U would mean EFF

30:46

and MK would be considered, if

30:48

that is the case, ESA must

30:51

forget about the White House, even

30:53

listening to anything we say, to

30:55

mend the relationship with the US.

30:58

If facile words and statements could

31:00

be a revenue stream would

31:02

be a very rich country, indeed

31:05

we would. Thank you for that.

31:07

Maddie, this debacle around the budget

31:09

presentation is a typical example of

31:12

the incompetence of government. The shows

31:14

of the ANC believe they would

31:17

be able to run rough shot

31:19

over other parties in the GNU

31:21

and shows there is no plan

31:24

and has been no plan for

31:26

decades. Neville says the DA must

31:29

stay in the GA must stay

31:31

in the GN period. Don't give

31:33

end to the ANCC. They are

31:36

spent force even the world didn't

31:38

trust them to trust them to

31:41

stay the world. course with the

31:43

DA. Celes says, hi Mandy, the

31:45

DA, have always been the biggest

31:48

winers. They could have played

31:50

such a different role in our

31:52

country. The actors, if they are

31:55

superior to the ANC, are holier

31:57

than they are as bad as

31:59

they are. the A&T when it

32:02

comes to governance for all South

32:04

Africans. Ficilla and Boulogne are taking

32:07

questions from journalists right now. Let's

32:09

go back to Laturi House and

32:11

hear what he has been saying.

32:14

And we've got to address a

32:16

number of issues. People have gone

32:19

to court on the budget impasse.

32:21

So we've got to address those

32:23

issues on the table. Now you

32:26

want to accuse the agency that

32:28

it has tracked people out of

32:31

the national... cabinet. You are not

32:33

saying that but you are getting

32:35

there. And you are interested

32:37

to know what is the ANC

32:40

position and you want the ANC

32:42

to dismiss anybody. Not the ANC.

32:45

By the way is the prerogative

32:47

of the president to dismiss people.

32:49

That's what you want. Of course

32:52

you've got the right to do

32:54

that. If I'm president and I've

32:57

got ministers who are in law

32:59

unto themselves on the basis of

33:01

a political party affiliation, I've got

33:04

to make up my mind as

33:06

the CEO about how do I

33:09

address this kindergarten in my cabinet.

33:11

And that's what President will

33:13

apply his mind on, and he

33:15

will engage with his ministers about

33:18

their conduct. Because at the end

33:20

of the day, Anakima spoke. It

33:23

cannot go unabated. And then you

33:25

cannot have... them both at all

33:27

times, that this side you want

33:30

to be dominant, this side you

33:32

want to be dominant. If you

33:35

want to be dominant, then win

33:37

elections outright and impose your wish

33:39

and your will on what you

33:42

want to do based on the

33:44

will of the people. And like

33:47

the Freedom Charter says that no

33:49

government shall claim authority unless it

33:51

is based on the will of

33:54

the people. No

33:57

government the ANC We cannot

33:59

be reminded from time to

34:01

time that it does not

34:03

want power, we have not

34:05

want power, but we are

34:08

the largest political party. And

34:10

we work with others in

34:12

that context. So, Ziana, if

34:14

any reshuffle were to happen

34:16

or is put in abeyance,

34:18

we are not aware of

34:20

that. The president does not

34:23

tell us that he wants

34:25

to reshuffle. or change government.

34:27

We're committed to the G&U

34:29

and the G&U is not

34:31

the DA. You must understand

34:33

that. We have been explaining

34:36

to you. It's not the

34:38

DA. It's the G&U with

34:40

others. When we're negotiating with

34:42

the DA, the DA told

34:44

us about the redliners. The

34:46

things that they don't want.

34:49

They said to us all

34:51

of those things that we

34:53

must form government with them,

34:55

not with others. We said

34:57

no. That's why

34:59

every time the leader of

35:02

the DA speaks and say

35:04

that we are in alliance

35:07

with the agency. We don't

35:09

speak much about that because

35:12

that's not the truth.

35:14

We gave a political party

35:16

with 2% PAC, the biggest

35:19

ministry of land reform in

35:21

the country. We gave them

35:24

in the government of national

35:26

unity. We could

35:29

have easily given that

35:31

to any other political

35:33

party and so on.

35:35

I'm just giving you

35:37

as an example. So

35:39

it is a G&U

35:41

and that is the

35:43

option we have adopted

35:45

and it has been

35:47

a choice that we

35:49

have made and which

35:51

has proven to be

35:54

correct. They are people

35:56

who misbehave and defy

35:58

themselves outside government, then

36:00

it is their choice

36:02

too, to do so.

36:04

But we are advancing

36:06

stability for the country

36:08

and that is what

36:10

is important to us.

36:12

There are many people

36:14

who gave us a

36:16

red liners and others

36:18

keep pronouncing themselves, keep

36:21

pronouncing themselves in public

36:23

on daily basis, keep

36:25

pronouncing themselves in public

36:27

on daily basis on

36:29

daily basis on daily

36:31

keep pronouncing themselves in

36:33

Does there are problems?

36:35

And that is their

36:37

choice at the end

36:39

of the day. Eyewitness

36:41

news? We tricked action

36:43

S. A. We are

36:45

not trickstas. We don't

36:48

trick people. We engage

36:50

with action S. A.

36:52

They raise their issue

36:54

in relation to VAT.

36:58

that they don't want

37:00

to have had, that's

37:02

not threatening anyone. We

37:05

will engage honestly with

37:07

action S.A. and all

37:09

other political parties that

37:12

have passed the framework

37:14

about the way forward.

37:16

We've got our own

37:19

position as the ANC,

37:21

which we will not

37:23

pronounce for now, up

37:25

until we engage with

37:28

all. political parties. There

37:30

is an impasse in

37:32

relation to budget. Everybody

37:35

in Parliament says we

37:37

don't want 0.5%. What

37:39

do we do? And

37:42

that is the impasse

37:44

and the reset of

37:46

the pattern in terms

37:49

of negotiations. It's about.

37:51

So that is what

37:53

these negotiations is about

37:55

some care. It's about

37:58

the budget impasse. and

38:01

the suggestions that political parties are

38:03

making on the table. So we're

38:05

going to be talking to them

38:07

because we need to pass the

38:10

division of revenue and the appropriation

38:12

later on. So we can't do

38:14

it on our own. We've got

38:16

to talk to others. As a

38:19

political party that is the largest

38:21

in parliament, we've got to talk

38:23

to everybody, including the DA. about

38:25

this past week and the way

38:27

forward. ANC Secretary General Fakile and

38:30

Malula saying some important things there,

38:32

saying that it doesn't seem as

38:34

though a cabinet reshuffle. The president

38:36

has not said that that is

38:38

happening, but they are resetting the

38:41

button on the negotiations. They'll be

38:43

speaking to other parties as well,

38:45

making some pretty strong comments about

38:47

the democratic alliance there. Lots of

38:50

reaction to that on the WhatsApp

38:52

line, Ranky says, Madi, Balula, kindergarten,

38:54

really. The shenanigans they've been doing

38:56

for 30 years and they do

38:58

not want anyone opposing them, they

39:01

call them that. Janet says we

39:03

need a viable workable system to

39:05

grow the economy and develop jobs.

39:07

This will help reduce crime to

39:10

some extent. It seems the DA

39:12

has the best idea to develop

39:14

jobs so use their plan. And

39:16

interesting, one person suggesting I am

39:18

a DA member, Stienhazen, must go.

39:21

What does this now mean for

39:23

the democratic alliance and the leadership

39:25

of the democracy? credit alliance and

39:27

hi mandia hope there's a roll

39:30

of toilet paper on the table

39:32

in France of Achilles he's going

39:34

to need it to wipe his

39:36

mouth sure people feeling very strongly

39:38

in both both ways about this

39:41

good afternoon Mendi I hear Figilin

39:43

Balula says they gave this what

39:45

they gave this what so in

39:47

other words ANC with their 39%

39:50

they control the G&U So they

39:52

don't negotiate with other parties, only

39:54

the ANC, the... who decide who

39:56

to get what or maybe I

39:58

didn't hear him clearly. Thank you.

40:01

Hi Mandy, I've got a question

40:03

that G&U. Why can't the G&U

40:05

be made up of 60% of

40:07

all the political parties and exclude

40:09

the ANC? Then there's the majority

40:12

to vote and everyone in the

40:14

G&U can decide what they want

40:16

to pass and what they don't

40:18

want to pass and they can

40:21

all work together and leave the

40:23

ANC out. If someone can just

40:25

answer that and help me. Thanks.

40:27

Bye. Anonymous. Anonymous. So that would

40:29

require a coalition between the MK,

40:32

the EFF, the DA, and all

40:34

of the other smaller parties as

40:36

well. Can you imagine anything getting

40:38

past or anything getting done at

40:41

all? technical, technically possible. It could

40:43

happen, but every single negotiator that

40:45

I've spoken to has consistently said,

40:47

as the party with the most

40:49

support, they always would expect the

40:52

ANC to form a government. And

40:54

that's why the ANC took the

40:56

lead in the negotiations. Similarly, everybody

40:58

was actually looking to MK to

41:01

form a government in KZN. And

41:03

the ANC kept saying to MK

41:05

what's happening, what's happening, and they

41:07

couldn't quite get it together because

41:09

of leadership. issues. So technically that

41:12

could happen. It would just never

41:14

work. The midday report. Well thank

41:16

you very much for listening. I

41:18

think there's going to be a

41:21

lot of response throughout the afternoon

41:23

to the press conference from the

41:25

ANC Secretary General for Kila Mbalula

41:27

who has been read from a

41:29

written statement, prepared statement, and then

41:32

did speak a lot about the

41:34

relationship. the situation someone refers to

41:36

between the ANC and the DA.

41:38

Well let's see now what the

41:41

other party say in response, but

41:43

it's going to be a very

41:45

interesting five days in South Africa

41:47

as the ANC pushes the reset

41:49

button on the G&U.