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2:21

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2:23

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2:26

your likes and dislikes, your

2:28

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2:31

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2:33

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2:35

parents don't understand. There

2:37

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2:39

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2:41

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2:43

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2:46

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2:48

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2:50

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2:53

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2:55

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2:58

especially if you live in a small city,

3:01

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3:05

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3:07

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3:10

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3:12

one text, one call

3:14

for you to simply pick up back

3:16

where you left off. And

3:19

every once in a while, something

3:21

will happen that brings you all

3:23

back together again. You

3:25

hope that moment, when it comes, is

3:28

a happy occasion. But

3:30

sadly, that isn't always the

3:32

case. When the

3:35

Campbell sisters, Lisa, Laura,

3:37

Donna Kaye and Donna Sue,

3:39

came together, along with their

3:41

brother Reggie, at their

3:43

family home in Milton, Florida, in

3:45

March 2016, they

3:49

were one person short of a

3:51

full reunion. In fact,

3:54

that was the reason they were there in the

3:56

first place. Their youngest

3:58

sibling, their little brother, brother

4:00

Chip was missing. I'm

4:04

Ashley Loeblassingame, and you're listening

4:07

to The Missing, a

4:09

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4:11

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4:14

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4:16

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4:18

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4:23

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4:26

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4:28

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4:30

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authorities. They believe that

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all of the cases in this series

4:47

could still be solved. This

4:50

is The Missing. Chip

4:52

Michael Campbell. There's

5:00

not a lot happening going on

5:03

in Milton, Florida. That's

5:05

the voice of Chip's sister, Lisa. Milton

5:08

is a very small town in

5:10

the Panhandle. It's

5:12

waterways. It has rivers that run

5:15

around it. There's the

5:17

bay. There's the Gulf of Mexico,

5:19

just a few miles from it. It

5:22

sits away from Pensacola, which is a

5:24

large town. That's Laura,

5:27

who these days hangs her

5:29

hat in Bloxey, Mississippi. It's

5:32

like a suburban type place. A

5:34

lot of people know each other. People

5:37

move there and live there most of

5:40

their lives, very sleepy town. Chip's

5:42

father, Reginald, was something of

5:45

a local legend referred to

5:47

affectionately as the cookie man.

5:50

He married our mother right out of high school.

5:53

They struggled the first few years. He

5:56

started working for a company

5:58

called Marie Biscuit Company. But

6:00

what they made was cookies.

6:03

And then later our father branched

6:05

out, he became the top salesman,

6:07

best increased sales routes.

6:09

He received award after award,

6:11

he received money bonuses. And

6:14

that's where he got the nickname, the

6:17

cookie man. We were the

6:19

cookie kids. The Campbells were

6:21

not your typical family and

6:25

had experienced far more than their fair share of

6:28

tragedy. When my father and mother

6:30

married, they had four children. Laura

6:37

is my oldest sister. And then

6:40

I have a sister named Donna

6:42

Kaye. And we call her DK for

6:45

short. And then

6:47

it was me, I was the third

6:49

daughter. And then my brother Reggie. My

6:53

brother Reggie was born.

6:56

And when I was seven, our

6:59

mother died of

7:01

leukemia. And

7:04

so Laura, DK

7:06

and me and

7:08

Reggie were

7:11

very young children at that

7:13

time. A few years,

7:15

maybe three or four years

7:18

later, my father married

7:20

a woman who

7:22

was unable to have children. But

7:25

she had adopted a child

7:28

and her name is Donna. And

7:30

she is my age. So when

7:33

they married, it was like I got another

7:36

sister, right, a twin, cause we

7:38

were same grade. We

7:41

did everything together, just like twins

7:44

siblings would. But then

7:46

guess what? Shirley got pregnant

7:48

and that's how we ended

7:51

up with Chip. He

7:56

was like her miracle baby because

7:58

she, she could never. have

8:01

children before. And

8:03

so now we're a family of six. And

8:06

when Chip was seven years

8:08

old, his mother

8:11

died. She had a brain

8:13

bleed and

8:15

she passed away. So

8:17

my father had six kids now

8:22

and he off

8:24

and on pretty much had to raise

8:26

kids alone for

8:29

his entire adulthood.

8:35

Laura and Lisa had no choice

8:37

but to grow up fast. Their

8:40

father, now tragically a

8:42

widower twice over, needed

8:44

their help and they pitched in

8:47

wherever they could. We all worked

8:49

very hard to keep

8:51

everything going. I got a hardship

8:53

driver's license at age 14. I

8:56

was 14 when our mother died. Lisa

9:00

was seven. Lisa

9:02

and Donna Sue and

9:04

Donna Kay played a big part in

9:06

raising Chip. And

9:09

because we were a little

9:11

bit older than Chip, we

9:13

were assigned the responsibilities of

9:16

taking turns watching

9:18

Chip every day after

9:20

school or all day whenever

9:22

we were out of school.

9:25

We were almost mother figures

9:28

ourselves when he was a

9:30

baby, especially changing

9:32

diapers, feeding him, just

9:35

doing normal day-to-day

9:37

things. But Laura and

9:39

Lisa were now adults themselves and

9:42

eventually they left the family home

9:44

to start their own lives. So

9:47

Chip was pretty much alone

9:50

a lot after when he

9:52

was a small child. Children

9:55

handle grief so much differently than

9:57

adults do. And I can speak.

9:59

on that because I

10:01

was seven when my mother passed away.

10:05

And children don't necessarily

10:07

always show outward signs

10:10

of grief. And

10:12

he pretty much handled it quietly.

10:17

Chip was always kind of

10:19

introverted. You know, he

10:22

wasn't like super outgoing or

10:24

anything like that. He

10:26

had some friends since childhood, you know, that

10:28

he would play with and things like that.

10:31

I think he was quite shy. He'd

10:33

never talked a whole lot. And

10:37

when he laughed, it was more

10:39

of like a quiet giggle type

10:41

thing. And he

10:43

was also very interested in

10:46

like antiques and things

10:48

like that. Sometimes when he became a teenager

10:50

and in his 20s, he

10:53

liked to fill in around with eBay and

10:55

selling things. If he had an item

10:58

he found interesting. He was

11:00

into games a lot. And I think

11:02

Atari and then Nintendo came out

11:04

when he was a kid. He did a

11:06

lot of video

11:08

game playing. As

11:11

he grew, he had a real love for

11:13

music, though. And

11:15

he learned to play the saxophone

11:17

very well. After

11:19

finishing school, Chip struggled

11:22

to figure out his next steps in

11:24

life. He got a job

11:26

as a diner cook and proved to be

11:28

a dab hand in the kitchen. He

11:30

worked at Denny's for over 10

11:33

years in Pensacola. He was well

11:35

known for his omelets. We encouraged

11:37

him to go to culinary

11:39

school because he loved cooking

11:41

and he loved his job. But

11:44

he was really, I don't know if he

11:47

was just kind of in a quandary about

11:49

what to do with his life. But I

11:51

know he pretty much stayed

11:53

in the Milton area. Chip wasn't one

11:56

to go, I think I'm going to

11:58

California. He tried moving. behind

14:00

the wheel. Another time when the

14:02

car was in the ditch in front of

14:04

the house, apparently Chip

14:07

must have cut the driveway too short

14:09

and ended up instead

14:11

of, you know,

14:13

in the driveway, ended up in

14:15

the ditch. There were several occasions

14:17

like that and we realized that

14:19

Chip did have an alcohol problem.

14:23

In fact, Chip had to get the

14:25

little machine where you blow into it

14:27

before you can ever start your car,

14:30

things like that. Things

14:32

came to a head one chilly

14:34

winter morning in January 2016 when

14:38

Chip got into a wreck, rear

14:40

ending another vehicle before crashing

14:43

through a shop window. He

14:46

ran into a business called

14:48

Truly Spoken, which is

14:50

a bicycle shop. He

14:53

was taken by ambulance to Sacred

14:55

Heart Hospital in Pensacola and

14:57

the doctor diagnosed him

15:00

with diabetic seizures. So

15:03

now he's

15:05

totaled his car. He

15:08

has a diabetic seizure diagnosis

15:10

on top of his type

15:12

2 diabetes and

15:15

his insulin dependence. But

15:18

because of this seizure diagnosis,

15:20

he lost his driver's license once

15:23

again. And

15:25

since now he didn't even have

15:27

a car, he

15:29

wasn't able to drive to Cantonment.

15:33

He worked about 35 miles

15:36

away at a Denny's

15:38

location in Cantonment,

15:40

Florida. And

15:43

so he lost his job because he

15:46

couldn't get transport that far away to

15:48

go to work. So here he is

15:52

at home, no

15:54

money, no

15:56

car, no license,

15:58

no job. her

20:00

out and that

20:02

he was infatuated with her. And I'm

20:06

just thinking, and I'm not

20:08

necessarily interdacting this is what

20:10

she did, but I'm thinking

20:13

if a girl is homeless

20:17

and needs a place to stay, you

20:20

would think that they would kind of

20:22

turn on the charm a little bit,

20:24

you know, to get

20:26

their needs met. And

20:29

Tanya was

20:31

hiding out because she did end up

20:33

getting arrested, but she

20:36

also apparently had a problem

20:38

with crystal meth. So she's

20:41

living in our dad's home on

20:44

drugs. He

20:46

knew he had a problem. And

20:49

I think that Tanya brought more

20:52

problems to him and introduced him

20:54

to those problems. Tanya

20:56

simply needed a place to stay.

20:58

Hers and Chip's

21:01

relationship was a purely

21:03

transactional one. Tanya got

21:05

a roof over her head and

21:07

in return, Chip got some company.

21:11

It was an odd arrangement, sure,

21:13

his family thought. But Chip

21:15

was an adult. He could make

21:17

his own decisions and none of

21:19

them particularly liked the idea of

21:21

their brother being in the family

21:23

house alone. Just

21:25

a few months later, however, they would

21:28

find out that things were going

21:31

on underneath that roof that

21:33

they couldn't have imagined in their

21:36

wildest dreams. We

21:40

learned so much about

21:42

Chip after he disappeared that

21:44

we had no idea. The last

21:47

contact between Chip and his family

21:49

occurred on March 5th, 2016. Chip

21:54

spent the day with his brother Reggie.

21:57

Chip worked for Little Reggie, our brother.

21:59

to earn some money. He had lost

22:01

his job, lost his car. You

22:04

know, he needed money. So our

22:08

other brother was willing to pay him to

22:10

come do some work at his house. Reggie

22:13

had come to pick him up because Chip's

22:15

not driving, right? And

22:17

he had spent the day with Reggie

22:20

and then later that evening he

22:22

dropped Chip back off at the house. Reggie

22:25

didn't get out of the car or go

22:27

inside the house or anything. He just dropped

22:29

him off in the driveway. And Chip

22:32

was supposed to contact Reggie

22:35

the next morning and Reggie

22:38

was going to come pick him up

22:40

again. But Chip never

22:42

called Reggie. A few

22:44

days later, Lisa was on her

22:46

phone when she came across a

22:48

Facebook post of Tonya's that Chip

22:50

was tagged in, one

22:52

that made her sit bolt upright in

22:55

her chair. It stated March 8th

22:57

at 7.49 p.m. This is a cry for help to any

23:03

and all of Chip's friends and

23:05

family. As most of you all

23:07

know, Chip is my best

23:09

friend and roommate. The

23:11

last time I spoke to and saw

23:14

Chip was Sunday night around 10.30 p.m.

23:18

I was heading out to babysit and

23:21

wasn't going to be back home until

23:23

the following afternoon. I

23:25

text messages and

23:28

called Chip consistently all day

23:30

up until returning to

23:32

the house. His

23:34

phone went straight to voicemail

23:36

all day and no texts

23:38

were responded to. So

23:41

I figured he lost his phone.

23:44

When she got home, she

23:46

found Chip's phone

23:48

in the master bathroom. The

23:51

battery was out and

23:54

it was factory reset. And

23:57

then she goes on to state

23:59

that she contacted some of their

24:01

mutual friends, but she

24:03

didn't have any of his family's

24:05

numbers. She says

24:08

Chip's friend Dawn and

24:10

her drove around that

24:13

night and the afternoon looking

24:15

for him, and

24:17

they called hospitals and jails. He

24:20

is nowhere. Please guys, if any

24:23

of you know where he is,

24:26

can you please at least let us

24:28

know that he's safe. He

24:30

has diabetes super bad and

24:33

it doesn't look as though he took

24:35

enough insulin pins with him. Just

24:38

please help us find Chip.

24:41

He's a wonderful person with

24:43

a giant-sized heart, and

24:46

that was her cry for help. Lisa

24:52

started frantically calling each of

24:55

her siblings trying to

24:57

figure out what they should do. And

25:00

I reached out to

25:02

everyone. I'm like,

25:04

hey, have you heard

25:06

from Chip? No. I stayed

25:08

on the phone for hours, and one

25:10

of my other sisters, Donna Kay, was

25:13

at my house here in Biloxi, and

25:16

then we're just going over reading

25:18

the words that Tanya put out there. It

25:21

was very stressful. Lisa

25:24

herself was hundreds of miles

25:26

away. It would take her

25:28

all night to make the drive to the

25:30

Milton house and check on Chip in person.

25:33

She didn't want to wait that long. Eventually,

25:36

she decided she had little other

25:38

choice but to call the police.

25:42

I called a non-emergent number at Santa

25:45

Rosa County Sheriff's Department and asked

25:47

them for the wellness check, and

25:50

I explained the situation that he's

25:53

insulin-dependent diabetic. He has

25:55

a recent diabetic seizures

25:57

diagnosis. I explained

25:59

what the Facebook post said, you know,

26:02

that he's nowhere to

26:04

be found essentially. And I just

26:07

asked them, can someone please come

26:09

down there and check on him

26:11

or check into this situation, what's

26:13

going on? After getting

26:15

confirmation that the authorities were on

26:17

the case, Lisa tried

26:20

Chip's number again. To

26:22

her surprise, someone picked

26:24

up. But the voice on

26:26

the other end of the line didn't

26:28

belong to her brother. And

26:31

Tanya answered his phone.

26:34

And she basically said

26:37

everything that she had

26:39

already posted in the Facebook post, you

26:41

know, that she didn't know where he

26:43

was, that there was mud

26:46

throughout the house. And

26:48

Chip's dog Harley, which was

26:50

a pit bull, was running

26:53

loose. There was one

26:55

strange moment during Lisa's call to

26:57

Tanya that gave her pause, a

27:00

moment she couldn't help but turn over in

27:02

her mind when she eventually hung up. When

27:05

Lisa had mentioned that she was going to

27:08

call the police, Tanya's

27:10

tone changed dramatically. She

27:13

got nervous. She

27:18

said, well, we don't, we

27:20

don't have to call the police right now. You have to wait

27:22

24 or 48 hours,

27:25

something like that. But I

27:27

didn't tell her they were already on

27:30

the way. Laura,

27:32

along with her sister, Donna

27:34

Kaye, arrived at the family

27:36

home the following morning, where they spoke

27:38

with the authorities. I

27:41

got in my car and went to

27:43

Milton at 702 a.m. the next day,

27:47

which was March the 9th. It's

27:49

about a two hour drive. A

27:51

deputy, I believe his name is Tussler,

27:55

made the initial interview.

27:57

He came to the house to

27:59

do the wellness. check and

28:01

he had told us that the

28:03

house was pretty bad to Sarray

28:06

and he was able to look

28:08

in the house. He didn't find

28:10

Chip. He was able to interview

28:12

Tanya. He was able to interview

28:15

Don. Don is

28:17

Chip's friend since kindergarten so

28:20

Don was very instrumental in trying to

28:22

look for him. Deputy

28:24

Tesler also left and went

28:27

a couple of houses down to

28:30

Chip's aunt's house and

28:32

he interviewed her and

28:35

of course he didn't

28:38

he didn't find Chip whatsoever. Then

28:42

there was an unexpected development.

28:45

The next day he

28:48

did come back to the house and

28:50

he arrested Tanya and

28:52

he told us that

28:54

she was being arrested on a

28:56

bench warrant. She had

28:58

a warrant out of Escambia County,

29:01

Florida and he said

29:03

he picked her up because in

29:05

his investigation all the roads led

29:07

back to her. Larceny,

29:11

drugs, drug paraphernalia and here's

29:13

a big one. She had

29:16

seven or eight counts of felony.

29:18

She stole our father's checks and

29:20

forged his name and wiped out

29:22

about 800 dollars or more from

29:25

his bank account while he's in

29:27

the nursing home. So

29:29

exploiting the elderly which

29:32

is also a felony. After

29:38

Laura filled them in on what was

29:40

going on, Lisa and Reggie dropped everything

29:42

and headed for Milton to be with

29:45

their siblings and to try and help

29:47

them get to the bottom of all

29:49

this. We met

29:52

with the detective. He got us

29:55

connected with Class Kids Foundation

29:57

and which for people don't

30:00

know, class kids foundation was

30:03

established by the

30:06

father of Polly class who went missing

30:08

and was later found murdered in the

30:10

late 80s. So

30:13

he had a foundation where he had

30:16

volunteers all over the country that

30:19

use their time and their resources

30:21

and their trained cadaver dogs to

30:24

search for

30:26

missing people. So within a

30:28

couple of days we had already had

30:31

some searches going on with the cadaver

30:33

dogs. There was a spot in the

30:35

backyard that one cadaver dog

30:38

had hit on but they

30:40

didn't find anything. All

30:43

of my siblings went looking in

30:45

the woods, you know, walking to

30:47

and driving down to old fishing

30:50

holes. Chip loved to fish

30:52

out. We were looking for clues or

30:55

maybe even see him just sitting

30:57

there fishing, right? Anything. And

31:00

we didn't find anything that looked

31:02

like maybe his clothing or him

31:04

or his fishing pole. We

31:07

didn't find anything. We went through

31:09

several different wooded areas and

31:13

also the public did help some

31:17

look and we put hundreds of

31:19

flyers out. Someone

31:21

did find Chip's ID, I believe it

31:23

was his old driver's license, in

31:27

a yard where somebody was excavating

31:29

or clearing off near a bayou.

31:31

There's a lot of bayous there

31:33

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31:35

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31:38

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their brother they simply did not

31:47

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31:50

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31:52

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31:57

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32:00

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house was trashed. There

34:08

was one spot on the wall

34:10

when you walk in the

34:12

house where you would enter the

34:14

kitchen. At about Chip's

34:17

Head High, there's a big dent

34:20

in the sheetrock.

34:23

It looks like possibly maybe

34:25

there was a scuffle at some

34:27

point. Such disarray

34:30

in the room Tanya stayed in. There

34:33

were like bloody tissues, pill

34:35

bottles, some

34:37

letters she had written. And we

34:39

read those. Apparently she's been in

34:41

rehabs many times in the past.

34:44

There was a large burn pile to

34:46

the side of the house and

34:49

we couldn't figure out why would

34:53

there be remnants of pots

34:56

and pans and spoons and

34:58

like kitchen items along

35:01

with some trash. We

35:03

found out that a few days before

35:06

Chip disappeared he was burning a lot

35:09

of stuff. And Tanya had been trying

35:11

to sell Dad's furniture like yard sales,

35:14

moving it outside and selling it to whomever

35:16

could buy it. So

35:19

we were told about that. Also,

35:21

our father's bank

35:23

account was in the

35:26

red by hundreds of dollars.

35:29

What's more, the house had

35:32

an unwelcome occupant, one

35:34

who was in no hurry to move along.

35:41

When we came to the house for

35:44

the first time after Chip

35:46

disappeared, which we

35:48

couldn't go in because Tanya

35:51

was there, right? And

35:55

on the 9th, whenever she was arrested, my

35:57

sister, Donna, Sue

36:00

had told her, you know, hey, chips

36:03

disappeared. We're just really going to need

36:05

you to to move. And

36:09

she very quickly

36:14

stated that she had squatters rights and

36:16

she would not be going anywhere. So

36:21

we had to begin

36:23

the process of a legal

36:26

eviction. Having to

36:28

contend with a squatter on top of

36:30

searching for their missing brother was

36:33

almost too much for the family to bear.

36:36

It was definitely

36:38

traumatizing. And it

36:40

took about, I don't know, a

36:42

month, maybe a little over a

36:44

month for us to

36:47

get the the legal process

36:49

through. We went to

36:51

the courthouse. We had to pay over five hundred

36:53

dollars for the paperwork. And then

36:56

we had to wait for her to be

36:58

legally served. And then we had

37:00

to post notification on

37:02

the inside and outside doors of

37:04

the home that she is officially

37:06

evicted with an eviction date. We

37:09

had to pack her belongings because

37:13

she didn't show up to get them and nor

37:15

did she have anyone to show up. My

37:18

sister, Donna Sue, at one point

37:20

had text her and said, hey,

37:23

we need you to go ahead and get

37:25

your stuff. And she had stated, well, I

37:28

need to get someone with a truck. And

37:30

Donna Sue told her, why do you need

37:32

a truck? You have no furniture here. In

37:35

the course of sifting through the mess

37:38

that Tonya and Lord knows who else

37:40

had made of the house, the

37:43

siblings made some deeply troubling

37:45

discoveries. And

37:48

the contents of her belongings,

37:51

some interesting things were found in

37:54

addition to syringes and drug

37:56

paraphernalia and things like that.

38:01

She had a receipt

38:03

for a 45 ammunition

38:07

and gloves. That

38:09

receipt was two weeks

38:11

prior to Chip's disappearance.

38:18

If the family was concerned

38:21

before they were downright petrified

38:23

now, why had

38:25

Tanya purchased a firearm? Had

38:27

she done something to Chip? Something

38:30

that would explain the signs of a struggle

38:32

in the house and what

38:34

appeared to be the burning of evidence in

38:36

the yard? Every

38:39

day that passed, they felt like

38:41

they were left with more questions

38:43

than answers until suddenly

38:45

there was a break in the case.

38:48

CCTV footage of Chip recovered

38:50

from the security cameras of

38:52

a local Circle K gas

38:55

station on the day of

38:57

his disappearance. Chip

38:59

on that video was

39:02

seen with a

39:04

backpack on his

39:06

back and one in his hands. It was

39:08

between 2 and 4 p.m. He

39:12

looks rough. He's wearing

39:15

a camouflage shirt and

39:17

jeans. And he

39:19

goes in the bathroom and the deputies say

39:22

that he was in the bathroom a

39:24

long time, like 15-20 minutes, and then

39:26

he comes out. But when he

39:28

comes out, no

39:30

backpacks seen at all. He

39:33

apparently left those backpacks in the

39:35

restroom. He

39:37

appears to have a black eye and the

39:40

footage is a little grainy. So there's

39:42

been some skepticism from the sheriff's department

39:44

on whether or not it's a true

39:47

black eye. But

39:50

when you zoom the video, it looks like a black

39:53

eye. And

39:56

the interesting part is when Tanya was arrested

39:58

on March 9th, the night,

40:00

guess what, she has

40:03

a black eye in her mugshot as

40:05

well. Had

40:11

Tonya and Chip gotten into a

40:13

struggle? Perhaps she'd threatened

40:15

him and forced him out of the

40:18

house at gunpoint. But over

40:20

what? Perhaps it was

40:22

something to do with the contents of

40:24

the two backpacks. One

40:27

was recovered and found in

40:29

a dumpster. And one

40:31

of the sheriff's officers pulled

40:34

it out of the dumpster, but he didn't

40:36

get both of them is what I'm told.

40:40

Our father's birth certificate was in it.

40:43

One thing that we've learned about

40:45

that particular gas station since

40:48

all of this has transpired that

40:51

apparently there's a

40:54

lot of drugs around in that

40:56

area. Tonya, as we know from

40:58

her rap sheet, had a history

41:00

of substance abuse. Chip,

41:02

on the other hand, had dabbled

41:04

in marijuana and occasionally mushrooms, but

41:07

he was not a consistent user

41:09

of hard drugs. Not

41:11

until Tonya came into his life

41:13

at least. Had she

41:15

gotten Chip hooked on something stronger?

41:18

Something that could account for the

41:20

drastic changes in his appearance and

41:22

behavior over the past several months?

41:25

Maybe she'd brought him into the orbit

41:27

of some shady people, leading

41:30

him into a situation where disappearing

41:32

was his only option. As

41:35

it turned out, the answers they

41:37

were searching for had been right

41:39

above their heads this whole time.

41:43

Shortly after Tonya

41:45

was officially evicted, a stranger

41:48

came to the door. His

41:50

name was Thurman. He came to

41:52

the door inquiring if he could

41:54

cut the grass and he

41:57

started looking around and my

41:59

sister, She's like it

42:01

was so strange because he was looking at the

42:03

roof. He was looking at

42:05

the windows. He was looking all around. He

42:08

walked around to the backyard like what she

42:10

put her shoes on real

42:12

quick and ran around in the backyard and he's

42:14

still looking around at the roof of the house.

42:17

And we had an

42:19

investigative team that was working with us.

42:22

I think it was Halos investigators.

42:26

I was telling her about it and she's

42:28

like they're looking for something. There's something in

42:31

that house and they

42:33

brought a ladder and went up

42:35

in the attic and pulled down a meth lab.

42:39

A meth lab in their

42:42

family home. On

42:45

one hand, the siblings could scarcely believe what

42:47

they were seeing. On

42:50

the other, it seemed to explain

42:52

an awful lot. Like

42:54

why Tonya had gotten nervous, the

42:56

night Lisa told her the police

42:59

were already on their way. My

43:02

sister called the sheriff's department. They

43:04

came and they took it all.

43:07

They did fingerprint it. They know

43:09

whose fingerprints is on the meth

43:11

lab. We know whose

43:13

fingerprints are on the meth lab.

43:15

However, to this day,

43:17

and this is over

43:19

eight years later, no one has

43:23

ever been charged. For

43:25

Laura and Lisa, it's impossible to

43:27

imagine that their brother, however far

43:29

down the path of drug addiction

43:32

he'd traveled, would ever have allowed

43:34

this to happen in their father's

43:36

house. To them,

43:39

this situation bore all the

43:41

hallmarks of someone's good nature

43:43

being taken advantage of. What

43:47

starts off as a can I stay

43:49

one night becomes can I do drugs

43:51

here? Then can my friends

43:53

do drugs here too? And

43:55

so on and so on until one

43:57

day, children will be Chip

44:00

woke up in a scene from Breaking

44:02

Bad. Chip likely

44:04

did fight back at some point. That

44:07

would explain what looks like

44:09

the black eye he's wearing

44:11

in the CCTV footage, but

44:14

against who. There were

44:16

strangers turning up outside their house now,

44:18

after all. And Tonya

44:20

surely couldn't have done all of this

44:22

on her own. We

44:25

learned that Chip was afraid of someone.

44:28

He disclosed that to his friends,

44:32

John Claudio, Dennis

44:34

Davies, and Don. He

44:37

would not say who it

44:39

was, and it's a text message to

44:41

his friend John. He

44:44

was afraid, and John is telling him,

44:46

keep your door locked till I get

44:48

back. And

44:50

Chip says, I would rather you didn't,

44:53

because it won't happen until you're gone.

44:56

I'll be dead no matter what. Thanks

45:00

for being there for me, man. I'm

45:02

a dumbass, though. I put myself in

45:04

this position. Chip's

45:06

ominous words sound like those of

45:09

someone who knows something awful

45:11

is headed their way, and there's little

45:13

to nothing they can do to stop

45:15

it. But one

45:18

final revelation seemed to indicate

45:20

that whatever it was, Chip

45:23

had no intention of going down

45:25

without a fight. We

45:28

found out the night that

45:30

Chip disappeared. Chip

45:34

had gotten a gun. He

45:37

got it from his dead uncle.

45:40

And when the deputy

45:43

tussler interviewed the aunt,

45:46

they realized that that gun

45:48

is missing. I

45:59

think he got in. real

46:01

deep into someone in

46:03

that area, possibly

46:05

they owed money to someone.

46:10

And of course Chip had no job. I

46:12

know he was desperate. I

46:14

feel like he was desperate. So

46:17

did someone do away with him? I

46:20

don't know. But it's

46:23

a possibility. But

46:25

no one has come forward to say anything. Sadly,

46:29

despite multiple sweeps of the

46:32

Milton House by crime scene

46:34

professionals, dozens of interviews

46:36

covering every person of interest,

46:39

and hundreds of hours of police

46:41

work by the officers of Santa

46:43

Rosa County, today, more

46:45

than eight years after Chip's

46:47

disappearance, his fate remains

46:50

a mystery. And to

46:52

this day, we have not seen any further

46:55

sightings. None of

46:57

us have received a phone call,

46:59

a text message, nothing. Chip

47:02

did have potentially life

47:04

threatening medical illness that

47:07

required medication, his insulin.

47:10

And you know diabetics cannot go without

47:13

their insulin for long. And

47:16

apparently he didn't take all of his

47:18

insulin when he vanished. He didn't, if

47:20

any, I don't know. So

47:23

number one, could it be he just wandered

47:25

off in the woods and passed

47:28

away? I guess

47:30

anything is possible because he did

47:32

have diabetes and some other medical

47:34

issues. And as

47:36

for the theory that Chip's simply up

47:39

and left without saying goodbye, that's a

47:42

difficult conclusion for his family

47:44

to accept. Because

47:47

I know if Chip was

47:49

just going to say

47:52

venture off and change

47:55

his life pretty much, why

47:58

did he leave the dog? The

50:00

ugly truth, when it came out,

50:03

crushed him. The next

50:05

day, we get a call from the

50:07

rehab. Your father is

50:09

in the parking lot in

50:11

his wheelchair, devastated, crying.

50:15

I just have to

50:18

go find my son. Reginald

50:26

passed away on November 16, 2022. He

50:32

never learned what became of Chip.

50:37

Their father's pain, on top of their

50:39

own grief for their missing brother, generated

50:42

a lot of resentment among the

50:44

Campbell siblings. Resentment

50:47

towards Tonya, most of all. Chip

50:50

was struggling without question beforehand,

50:52

yes, but it seemed

50:54

to them like things only truly

50:57

began to unravel after she had

50:59

come into his life. Looking

51:03

back, because I know initially when this

51:05

all happened, we

51:08

all sort of wanted to blame her, but

51:11

I can't say whether

51:13

or not she's to blame for

51:17

any of that. We

51:19

do feel that at

51:22

best, she knows more

51:24

information than she's stating.

51:29

When someone passes away, sad

51:31

as it is, there's a roadmap

51:33

of sorts. We lay

51:35

them to rest, we grieve, and

51:38

if we're lucky, we move on. But

51:41

when someone we love disappears from

51:43

our lives and there's no resolution,

51:45

a question mark

51:47

instead of a full stop, what

51:50

you're left with is endless,

51:53

unresolved speculation. Is

51:55

Chip okay? Is

51:58

he alive? Is

52:01

he well? Is he hurting? Did

52:03

he have food? Is he warm today?

52:05

Does he know how

52:08

much he was loved? All

52:10

those questions are

52:13

constant every day. Chip's

52:20

siblings are still asking those

52:22

questions, and they remain

52:24

hopeful that one day they'll

52:26

get the answers they're looking for.

52:30

It's hard not knowing what happened,

52:32

and we are at a point

52:34

now, I know I am, that

52:36

it's not about crying for the

52:38

loss. We're pretty sure he's not

52:40

here anymore on this earth. So

52:43

if someone could

52:45

help a family, you could help by

52:47

sharing something. If you overheard something in

52:49

a store or in a restaurant pertaining

52:52

to Chip Michael Campbell, that

52:55

could be some information

52:57

that could help resolve

53:01

the disappearance of Chip Campbell. That would

53:03

be great and

53:05

greatly appreciated. We

53:07

love him. My sister

53:09

and my brother Reggie and myself,

53:12

we met with the state's attorney's

53:14

office just a couple of years

53:16

ago. They

53:18

assured us then that there

53:20

was a lot of

53:23

eyes on Chip's case. They

53:26

simply ask that if anyone listening

53:28

to this podcast knows anything about

53:30

what happened to their brother that

53:32

day, that they come forward and

53:35

help them find the closure they need

53:38

to what's been an incredibly difficult chapter

53:40

in all of their lives. If

53:43

there's someone that's listening that

53:46

knows what happened to Chip,

53:49

put yourself in our family's shoes.

53:53

Chip has a lot of family. He

53:55

has people that actually love him.

54:00

how you don't even know what

54:02

to do when a loved one goes missing.

54:04

You don't know. There's no manual that tells

54:06

you exactly what

54:08

to do. We were lost and

54:12

we all had our own ideas about what

54:14

to do and anyway there's no

54:16

guarantee you're going to find your loved one. It's

54:19

sad that eight and a half years have

54:21

passed and we still have no answer and

54:25

no one's talking. Addiction's a

54:27

real thing you know. It is

54:29

such a demon. Such

54:31

and it can happen to anyone. I think

54:35

in almost every family

54:37

and even some really

54:39

great families it doesn't

54:41

discriminate and I find

54:43

a lot of times people that have

54:45

addictions are

54:48

usually very kind good people

54:53

at heart and it's just a

54:55

coping mechanism and I can only

54:57

hope that someday someone

55:00

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