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2:01

today! Halwani's ditched town, now the

2:03

inmates are running the asylum. The creatures of

2:06

the control room are front and center this

2:08

time around. It's the Rick and GCN

2:10

show! Or is it

2:12

the GCN Rick show? Either

2:15

way, here are your hosts,

2:17

Eric Jackman and Connor Burbs!

2:19

Hello and welcome to another GCN

2:21

Rick edition of the MMA Hour.

2:23

Aria Halwani is away in

2:26

Paris covering the Olympics, which I believe ends

2:28

Sunday. You would think I would know that,

2:30

but I don't. And

2:33

I'm leaving on vacation on Sunday, so actually good

2:35

timing for all these things to coalesce. Wait, what?

2:37

Yeah, sorry Frank to break it to you, but

2:39

I'm going on a cruise. Not

2:42

by my choice, my wife really wanted

2:44

to go. We're going with a lot of her

2:46

family. It's going to be a really fun time,

2:48

but cruise is not my number

2:50

one option for vacation. I'm more of a sit on a

2:52

beach and chill. But hopefully when we get

2:55

to the Bahamas I can do some of that and the kids

2:57

can be out of my hair. Thankfully we'll have a lot of

2:59

relatives to cover that. Anything

3:02

else, Frank? Oh, the kids aren't coming with?

3:04

No, they're coming with, but we're going on

3:06

the boat. We're rolling 50 deep onto the

3:08

boat. So there's going to be a lot

3:10

of extra hands. Good.

3:13

Extra hands on deck. I like it. Nice.

3:16

50 deep? Minimum. Yeah. There's

3:18

going to be a lot of cousins,

3:21

uncles, aunts, parents. We're

3:24

taking over the boat. I think the official

3:27

cruise shirt says as much. We're

3:30

doing matching shirts. Matching shirts. Let

3:33

me introduce myself. I'm Eric Jackman, AKA New

3:35

York Rick. My colleague whose voice you hear

3:38

is Connor Burks, AKA GC. GC, how are

3:40

you? I'm doing great,

3:42

man. I'm doing great. I want to hear

3:44

more about this cruise. You are correct. The

3:46

Olympics do end on Sunday. Currently

3:49

sweating out my boys, Denmark handball.

3:53

90 seconds to go up one against Sweden. So I

3:55

mean, the vibes are high, dude. I mean,

3:58

you're heading into vacation. Speaking of vibes. This

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4:08

There's nothing worse than a producer that's

4:10

on the host's ass about getting reads

4:12

in. I mean, there's nothing worse than

4:14

the one. Not only that,

4:16

but I'm looking at the clock. We're two minutes, like,

4:18

give us a second. His voice came up, I was

4:20

just introducing him. Like, chill, chill bro. I have 30

4:22

million papers here. They're sitting right here, they're hopping on.

4:24

And now it's done, we're gonna get to all of

4:27

them. Yeah, super organic.

4:29

I'm sure they love that. I wonder how many more

4:32

people downloaded DraftKings Sportsbook because of that. We just got

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five more subscribers right now. Whose voice is that? They've

4:36

never heard of this guy. They can't see him. They're

4:39

like, can we get him to do all the ad reads moving

4:41

forward? Unbelievable. Because he set it

4:44

up with conviction. Yeah, totally threw off the flow.

4:46

Don't even know where we're going. GC, what were you

4:48

even talking about? You had something to say. Denmark Handball

4:50

almost just got an N1. I think we're setting up

4:52

for a penalty. I mean, I was hoping this was

4:55

gonna be over before the show started. But I

4:57

mean, priorities here, man, priorities. Yeah, shout

4:59

out to Ariel in

5:02

Paris for the Olympics. Jealous,

5:04

looks like he's having a really good time. He's sent

5:06

us a lot of different things.

5:08

He's posted the clips of

5:11

himself on social media as

5:13

well. Some fun stuff going on. He's involved

5:15

in skits now. Did

5:18

you see that one? Did you have a chance? No,

5:20

no, I didn't see this. He's involved in

5:22

a skit. You could check it out on

5:24

social after the fact. Maybe during a little

5:26

bit of a rant by me. It's on

5:28

his account? Yeah. His account?

5:30

You know what? I'll say decent

5:33

acting, even better dancing. That's my review right

5:36

now. Oh my god, he dances in it?

5:38

What was this posted? This morning,

5:40

I believe, I wanna say? This morning. For

5:43

everybody else out there, don't turn us off to go watch

5:45

it, but maybe like second screen it. Are

5:48

you watching it now? I

5:50

don't know which one it is. Okay, don't worry about it.

5:52

Watch it later. Is it just him dancing? No, just watch

5:54

it later. Don't worry about it. Okay, all right, I'll find

5:56

it later. We'll get into it later. There's a lot to

5:58

talk about GC. Um, because we've got

6:01

some big news in the world of MMA. The

6:03

PFL this morning announced the

6:06

return of Francis and Gannu Francis and

6:08

Gannu's next fight after boxing. He

6:10

is coming back to the world of MMA. He is

6:12

taking on Hanout Ferreira. Uh, the, the

6:14

challenger that we all believed he would be facing, right? We

6:16

knew if he was coming back to MMA, that this was

6:18

going to be the fight. It had been broadcast, uh,

6:21

many times before this, it seemed like all roads were

6:23

leading to it, but now it's official Francis and Gannu

6:25

back to the world of MMA. After

6:29

losing, devastatingly in boxing, suffering a personal tragedy.

6:31

There's a lot, you know, on the line

6:33

here for Francis, um, but coming back to

6:35

a comfort zone, which I like to see.

6:39

Oh, for sure, man. Yeah. I mean, obviously

6:41

the way that he lost to Anthony

6:44

Joshua was devastating. You mentioned it, the

6:46

tragedy that he had to deal with

6:48

in his family. And, and now he

6:50

gets this fight against, against a really tough opponent and

6:52

he's not getting any younger. I do

6:54

feel like there's a lot on the line for

6:56

him and, uh, I'm excited for it, man. I'm,

6:58

I'm ready to see him back. It'll be by

7:00

the time he enters the PFL smart cage, it'll

7:02

be two years

7:04

and 10 months since we've seen him in

7:07

a minute. Yeah. I

7:10

can't wait, dude. I can't wait. I mean,

7:13

this is obviously his sport. Like he, he

7:15

had success against Tyson Fury, but I feel

7:17

like Anthony Joshua proved that upper

7:19

echelon of boxers maybe isn't where he's going

7:21

to find his home. I'm, I'm excited to

7:23

see him return to MMA. I

7:26

know this probably didn't work out the way the

7:28

PFL would have hoped, right? Like naturally

7:30

when you sign a big name free agent, like Francis

7:32

and Ghana, you're hoping you can get them back in

7:34

there sooner rather than later. But

7:38

now due to the extended time that this has taken to

7:40

kind of play out this way, I

7:42

feel like the fight becomes more compelling,

7:44

right? If you're Hanon, if you're somebody

7:47

who is thinking Francis could be vulnerable,

7:49

there's really been no better time, right? On the

7:51

heels of that devastating defeat to Joshua on

7:53

the heels of the personal tragedy with

7:56

that extended time that he has not trained for MMA

7:58

and has been focusing primarily on the PFL. unboxing,

8:00

the deck is stacked against him, right? The

8:02

deck is stacked against Francis and Ganu right

8:04

now. If there was a time to get

8:06

him, it's now. It's this fight, which I

8:09

feel like evens the playing field to make

8:11

this fight more compelling. It may not have

8:13

been the perfect planning from the PFL's perspective,

8:16

but right now I do feel like the fight is more

8:18

compelling than it would have been if it happened when he

8:20

just came in. Oh, a

8:22

thousand percent. And I think the fact that Hanamfer

8:24

looked so good against Ranvator, I mean, how could

8:26

you possibly look any better if he won

8:29

in 21 seconds or whatever it was, is

8:31

going to help build to this fight as

8:33

well? And I think also the time away

8:36

from MMA, like I know we did the

8:38

whole boxing thing, but the fact that he

8:40

has spent 34 months away from

8:42

it, like if you're an MMA fan, then you

8:44

want to see him make this return to see

8:47

if he still has it. Absolutely. We

8:49

also, I will say, I said the deck is

8:51

stacked against him every time the deck has been

8:53

stacked against Francis and Ganu, any time in his

8:55

life, he has always met the challenge.

8:57

And so if there is somebody who's capable of carrying

8:59

this type of burden, it's him. We

9:02

also got the return of the announced

9:04

return of Chris Cyborg, Chris Cyborg making

9:06

her PFL debut, coming

9:08

in as Bellator's featherweight champion facing

9:10

Larissa Pacheco, who, as we know,

9:13

incredible PFL fighter, who was

9:15

the last person to defeat Kayla Harrison, their

9:17

champion in the 2023 season. Somebody

9:20

that a lot of people believe is, I

9:23

believe MMA Fighting's rankings have

9:25

her tied for fifth or maybe sixth off

9:27

the top of my head. Cyborg, or sorry,

9:29

that might be Cyborg. Pacheco might

9:31

be like in the three to five range.

9:33

So this is a fight between, according to MMA

9:35

Fighting's rankings, which include all the different promotions, right?

9:37

We can't refer to the UFC rankings here. A

9:41

top, you know, six at

9:43

worst matchup between pound for pound women's

9:45

fighters. I'm really excited about this one

9:47

as well. If I'm not going to

9:49

get Cyborg versus Harrison, if I'm not

9:51

going to get Pacheco versus Harrison,

9:53

if I'm not going to get Amanda Nunez, rematch, if I'm

9:55

not going to get Amanda Nunez back in the mix, this

9:58

is the best you can do between. between fighters

10:00

that are available to the PFL, this is as good

10:02

as you can do. I was

10:04

just going to say, this is the number one female fight

10:06

that the PFL can make, correct? Absolutely. Where

10:09

would you rank it on female

10:11

fights that you can make, period? It's up there. The

10:15

inhibiting factor is that they would never do,

10:17

cyborg's not going back to the UFC. Pacheco

10:20

could potentially go to the UFC maybe down the

10:22

line, right? That might be a viable option. And

10:24

then you have the opportunity to rematch Kayla

10:27

Harrison. If Amanda Nunez comes out of

10:29

retirement, that is one. For

10:31

me, Amanda versus Kayla, I think is still

10:33

going to be the number one that's possible.

10:35

I think that's clear. I think that is

10:37

clear number one that you can create. I

10:40

was thinking about it though, like if Larissa Pacheco

10:42

is able to beat cyborg in this fight, and

10:44

she already has a win over Kayla Harrison, the

10:47

idea of Pacheco eventually going to the UFC

10:50

and say Kayla becomes the champion at

10:52

the UFC is very intriguing

10:54

to me. Yeah. And to that point

10:56

though, we have some steps that have to happen before then.

10:59

This is as good as it gets

11:01

that's available, right? It's Amanda and Kayla,

11:03

and it's this fight. These are

11:05

the best that the separate promotions

11:07

can kind of do. Because

11:09

I imagine Amanda Nunez, if she comes back, has to come

11:11

back to the UFC, she'll have a contract. There's no route

11:14

at the moment back to

11:17

PFL or Bellator. And so short of that, this

11:19

is as good as it gets. I've

11:21

been on record for a long time saying I

11:23

think cyborg is the best female

11:25

fighter of all time. I stand by it.

11:27

I know a lot of people say Amanda

11:29

Nunez, I have no ill will

11:32

toward anybody who feels that way. I don't

11:34

begrudge anybody. I personally have cyborg just

11:36

how long the dominance has been. And

11:39

she's still kind of just doing it. Every

11:41

time she goes out there, she's still looking as

11:43

dominant as ever. So it's truly the best of

11:45

the best. And I'm really excited about this fight.

11:48

These two are as good

11:50

as PFL can do. This is it right now.

11:52

Yes, 100%. And these two

11:54

fights, period, this car, we're finally getting

11:56

to see this pay-per-view super fights division.

11:58

And then Cyborg versus

12:01

Pacheco, like that is all action. Like

12:03

you were talking about two like elite

12:05

finishers in the women's division going against

12:08

each other. And obviously Cyborg has seemed

12:10

unbeatable of late, but then

12:12

so did Kayla Harrison when Pacheco beat

12:15

her. So I'm very intrigued by it. And I feel

12:17

like PFL is doing a really good job of, A,

12:20

there's gonna be a build to this. Like we

12:22

have two and a half months. Uh, that's

12:29

right. Yeah. Good, good point there, GC. But

12:33

along the same lines as he's saying, like we're

12:35

building up to a massive pay-per-view. And I have

12:37

long said, PFL

12:39

has talked about going on pay-per-view, continue

12:41

to kind of talk

12:43

about promoting a pay-per-view product. You

12:47

need somebody like Francis Engano to headline

12:49

your pay-per-view. Available

12:51

options to PFL. It needs to be Francis Engano

12:53

or it needs to be Jake Paul. Those are

12:55

the options that I believe you would need to

12:57

headline a pay-per-view. And you're getting one

12:59

of them right here. So I think this is the right

13:01

move. I think it's the right timing. And these two fights

13:03

are tremendous. GC, you were

13:05

talking about the build up to what this is gonna

13:08

be. Yeah, yeah. There's

13:11

an old trick where you got to log out of

13:13

the Zoom right before the show starts. Because sometimes I

13:15

get the reset. I forgot to do the log out

13:17

beforehand so you lost me. I've been good for one

13:20

like failure per show. So hopefully

13:22

we just got it out of the way there. Yeah,

13:24

I was just saying the build. The fact that

13:26

we have over two months until the fight takes place.

13:29

And then did you see that they're going to be

13:31

doing a press conference in two weeks from tomorrow with

13:34

the four fighters and Jake Paul is gonna

13:36

be hosting it? Which I think is brilliant.

13:38

You're gonna get eyes on it. And

13:40

then you're doing probably

13:43

the two biggest fights that the PFL can make

13:45

on the same card. And the

13:47

scheduling seems to fit in well.

13:49

Like obviously 308 is gonna be

13:51

the week after. I

13:54

don't think the UFC has anything on the

13:56

calendar right now for October 19th, but that

13:58

feels like an apex-y. Type

14:00

yeah weekend if they're gonna do it. So I

14:02

don't think they're gonna be competing with

14:05

anyone except for you know Like football, but

14:07

this is obviously a completely different sport So

14:09

I feel like they're doing this Well, if I'm very excited

14:12

to see how this goes for them what will be interesting

14:14

to see what the UFC does, right? Sometimes in the past

14:16

when they've gone head to head they've been known to stack

14:18

the deck Sometimes they've said we're gonna do our event the

14:20

way we're gonna do it So it's gonna be fascinating to

14:23

see that you mentioned Jake Paul as you were gone I

14:26

said the you have the PFL is to

14:28

pay-per-view stars are Jake Paul and Francis and Gannu

14:30

if you've got one of those guys In

14:32

the mix for a pay-per-view. That's

14:34

a worthy pay-per-view, right? That's something that I would

14:36

say fight fans are going to

14:38

consider throwing down for and so you've got Francis

14:40

and Gannu here You're involving Jake Paul in this

14:42

press conference. They're building this properly. They're doing it

14:45

right and if the Things

14:47

that I've been hearing about the rest of this card Come

14:51

true But you're here rumbling.

14:53

I'm hearing some I'm hearing some things about some other

14:55

potential fights that are happening lower on the card as

14:57

you could imagine When you

14:59

look around the landscape of who the biggest people that

15:01

between Bellator and the PFL are it's not hard to

15:03

know What it would look like if they

15:05

stack the deck and if they stack the deck and if this

15:08

card shapes out the way I have Been hearing and seeing it's

15:11

gonna be worth the pay-per-view. It is gonna be

15:13

a car that is worth the price of a

15:15

pay-per-view So they're building

15:17

toward a big night it is it is it is The

15:20

it is the first time that I would say like

15:23

they are putting on a product that I would

15:25

say is Competitive with a UFC pay-per-view. This is

15:27

the first time in their in their history Any

15:31

chance that they waited on the announcement

15:33

of before

15:36

releasing this hmm information I Doubt

15:40

it I know this is you know Obviously you can imagine

15:42

that there's a lot of pieces in place and having put

15:44

this into play and try to get this in The works

15:46

for a while. I Don't

15:48

know. I I don't think so. I think they're

15:50

kind of operating on their own schedule I'm interested

15:52

to see as I said though what the UFC

15:55

response to it is do they start do they

15:57

start seeing what kind of fights? They can put

15:59

around that date and see what they can do to kind

16:01

of squash the

16:03

PFL's plans here. But- Okay.

16:05

Okay, I just wanna throw this out

16:07

to you. Yeah. We're obviously, we're doing

16:10

UFC Apex 95 this weekend, right? And

16:12

then- The road to 100, baby. We're

16:15

almost there. August

16:17

24th, Cannoneer versus Kyle

16:19

Bahalio is gonna be 96. And

16:22

then we got Burns Brady, 97. So

16:25

could they squeeze in 98 and 99 between

16:29

now and then, between September 7th

16:31

and October 19th, to

16:34

where October 19th is UFC Apex

16:36

100. And that is their direct

16:38

response to the PFL's pay-per-view

16:40

super fights. The big daddy, UFC Apex

16:42

100, the one that nobody can miss.

16:45

This feels like a no-brainer. UFC Apex 100

16:47

directly competing with

16:52

the PFL pay-per-view super fights. You know how

16:54

we had a full year of like, what's

16:56

the UFC 300 headliner? What's

16:59

the UFC 100 Apex headliner is

17:02

the question that we all need to know. It

17:04

feels like a Marcin Tibera gets it down this

17:06

weekend. He's got three main events in the last

17:08

three years. I mean, turn them around quickly, get

17:10

them back out there. Is

17:13

Norma Dumont in need of a fight? I feel like

17:15

that would be perfect for Apex 100 main event. Do

17:17

you pull Francis off the pay-per-view if they do that?

17:20

Do you just like, you have to abandon

17:22

the plan? You just hit the feet, you

17:25

just wave the white flag. Okay, but in

17:28

all honesty, I think like speaking

17:30

for both of us, it feels like they

17:32

have done something really right here as

17:34

the PFL and Bellator. Like this makes a lot

17:36

of sense for them. The timing couldn't be better.

17:38

The stars are right. Everything seems to be aligned.

17:41

Like this is the best they can do. I

17:43

was gonna say, if I'm not mistaken, this is

17:46

the most excited I've ever been for a PFL

17:48

card. Yeah, the championships are great. The championships are

17:50

fantastic. I like the championships. I like them more

17:53

previously. I feel like it's gotten a little bit

17:55

diluted, but I like them.

17:57

But what happens is you can't choose, right? That's

18:00

the gift and the curse of the tournament. The tournament

18:02

is a meritocracy to an extent. They pick some of

18:04

the matchups and things like that. But mostly, at the

18:07

end of the day, two really

18:09

worthy fighters are fighting for a championship there.

18:12

But you do not get to choose them. Their star power

18:14

is not of your choosing, right? You can kind of force

18:16

the deck a little bit, right? Dakota Duchava

18:19

gets some matchups that make it easier

18:21

for her to potentially cruise to the final.

18:24

But you can't force her, right? She had to win

18:26

those fights. And if she loses, now you don't have one

18:28

of your bigger stars there. Whereas here, you

18:30

can go, hey, Cyborg Pacheco, in.

18:32

Ferreira and Francis, in. Some

18:35

of these other names, right? Some of the

18:37

bigger names on Bellator and the PFL roster,

18:39

you can handpick this and you can really

18:41

make a compelling pay-per-view product. So this is

18:43

the first time that you say you're the

18:45

most excited. This is the first time that

18:48

I'm like, yeah, this is comparable to UFC

18:50

pay-per-view if they fill it out the way

18:52

they can. It's going to be great,

18:54

man. P308 and

18:56

this, what's the official name?

18:59

PFL, Supervite pay-per-view division? Yeah.

19:02

I mean, they previously had broadcast or said

19:04

that it would be called like the Superfight

19:07

division, but they

19:09

have 10,000 different names for all the 10,000 different

19:12

products. It's hard to keep up with. But

19:15

let's call it the Superfight division for now. It's going to

19:17

be great. Can we run the promo real quick? Yeah. They

19:20

put out a great promo. They released this video. Let's run

19:22

it. Saturday,

19:27

October 19th on ESPN Plus pay-per-view.

19:29

Oh yeah, I'll tell you what. It's a battle

19:31

of the Giants. Battle of the

19:34

Giants. The under-fuelled heavyweight champion of the

19:36

world, Francis Ngannou makes his historic MMA

19:38

return. And the fight

19:40

is more f***ing on the planet. Lineal. Okay.

19:44

Against the six foot eight Brazilian Titan,

19:46

Hana the Problema, the head. Six eight?

19:49

That's the answer. That's what we're going to

19:51

use to describe the fight. And the two

19:53

most devastating strikers on the planet in the

19:56

biggest fight of the year. I

20:00

didn't even remember that at

20:02

the call. My

20:08

goat. As you know I'm

20:10

a big fan of Larissa as well. I

20:15

love Larissa Chico. She

20:17

was one of my early parlay boys. I

20:21

was like this is... Oh

20:23

my god. We're getting PFS. Whoa. A

20:27

wild mike type. A

20:29

wild mike Tyson appears. That

20:34

was interesting. Three words from Mike Tyson.

20:36

How much do you think that cost them?

20:39

Pretty penny. I feel like he's at a

20:41

lot of the events so they might have like a rotating

20:43

deal with him and maybe they can use him in that

20:45

capacity. Race for impact? You like that? You

20:47

in for that? I don't hate it. All right so

20:49

yeah I don't hate it. Buckle up. I don't hate

20:51

it or love it. Buckle up. Yeah

20:53

buckle up something like that. Battle of the Giants. Race for

20:55

impact. I actually like that they're like naming

20:57

it. Like it's very boxing-esque. But what is the name? Is

21:00

it battle of the Giants? Is it brace for impact? Is

21:02

brace for impact just like hatch? Like over brace. It looks

21:04

like... Go ahead. We

21:06

have the poster here. I think it

21:08

is. This is Inganu verse to head

21:10

a battle of the Giants under

21:13

that brace for impact. So

21:15

like they're saying this is the battle of

21:18

the Giants. We recommend that you brace for

21:20

impact. We have just given a lot of love to

21:22

PFL on what they're doing here. One

21:25

critique. One criticism if I could. About

21:28

the brace for impact. Just over branding in

21:30

general. Just simple. Keep

21:33

it simpler. I like the promo.

21:35

I like the promo but like we don't

21:37

need six different slogans for it. We don't

21:39

need like simple simple. Don't

21:41

need super fight division. Is that the belt?

21:43

Yeah yeah yeah. The belt looks good. I

21:45

dig those. No right. Why can't

21:48

you just do like PFL pay-per-view? PFL

21:50

pay-per-view? Why don't we just start it off? Why

21:52

don't we just call this PFL one? These

21:55

are the these are the super fight ones. We do.

21:57

I was gonna say once a month they can't

21:59

do that. It goes to whatever, when I used

22:01

to object to this and say, like, hey, combine

22:03

the things, the counter is,

22:07

well, we sell different products to different people, right? There's

22:09

different broadcast partners in different regions that have this. So

22:11

you do have to have some specificity with that. I

22:14

don't love it. I want to simplify things, but it

22:17

is what it is at the end of the day.

22:19

But they've done well. They've done really, really well here.

22:22

Yeah, yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Boat looks

22:25

great. Poster looks great too.

22:27

I like the two cliffs, one representing

22:29

Cameroon, representing Brazil. Yeah,

22:32

I feel like we could have just gone Battle

22:34

of the Giants, Battle of the Giants. Drop the

22:36

BFI, no need for the Brace for Impact, just

22:40

the BOTG. And then we could

22:42

have had the BOTG belt. Okay,

22:44

but do you like that? We'll say that for another day.

22:46

Do you like the extra belts? Or would you rather

22:48

have like the actual

22:51

belts that they have, the PFL or the

22:53

belt? Heavy weight championship. Cyborg has Bellator's

22:56

belt. Cyborg actually has Bellator's featherweight

22:58

belt. Her fight with

23:00

Larissa could just be for the belt. Does

23:04

Pacheco have a belt right now? So she's won

23:06

a season. So that's the thing. She won the

23:08

2023 season. She

23:11

has the tournament belt. They don't have the

23:13

PFL championship belt. That doesn't exist

23:15

because it only exists for that year.

23:18

And so Cyborgs,

23:20

for all intents and purposes, would be the one that

23:22

could be on the line potentially. But

23:26

I get, as they will continue to keep

23:28

Bellator and PFL separated, as it seems, then

23:31

you kind of just have to make the other

23:33

belt. Yeah, I'm less

23:35

belts. Less belts, less- Simplify. I

23:37

think simplify. Less marketing, less belts. Keep

23:40

it simple. More marketing, less-

23:44

Marketing slogan, gimmicks. As a part of it,

23:46

yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But

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Hour. I've

25:08

been enjoying the PFL playoffs. We kind of

25:10

didn't go as much into it with Dakota

25:12

getting the big win and Tyler

25:14

Santos beating Liz Kamaloush. Oh, I was gonna say Dakota

25:16

Tyler Santos is a fantastic player. I love that fight.

25:18

I'm very much looking forward to that. That's

25:21

another one. I mean, there's momentum right now,

25:23

I feel like with the PFL. Like I feel

25:25

like there is something here that like

25:28

you build a star in Dakota, if she's able

25:30

to get by Tyler Santos, now

25:32

all of a sudden, hey, turn around, throw

25:34

her on October, you build her up on

25:36

a big showcase there in pay-per-view. Like there's

25:39

some big opportunities. I

25:42

was thinking that, she doesn't fight till November though. Oh,

25:45

the championship is not until November, that's right.

25:50

Yeah, you do a one-off, non-tournament. You just do

25:53

a one-off. Honestly, yeah, but then you screw yourself

25:55

in the tournament or something bad happens. Or you

25:57

just give her a can. Yeah, you just throw

25:59

on it. Or you could

26:01

use this as a springboard. Oh

26:04

man, it would be so good if the championships were

26:06

like just a couple of weeks after this. It kind

26:08

of hurts that it's gonna be like five weeks after.

26:10

We're gonna say use this as a springboard. Because

26:12

obviously the biggest marketing part of

26:14

the championships is that everyone, or

26:17

six of the fights, is gonna be for

26:19

a million dollars. So you

26:21

use this as a marketing tactic for it. Here's the

26:23

problem with that, and it's always gonna be the problem

26:25

and the thing that I've kind of always pointed to.

26:28

If you do this huge event in October, you

26:31

make the championship lesser. Unfortunately,

26:33

that's just how that goes. If you

26:35

tell people, spend

26:38

your money October, this is it,

26:40

Frances Cengano's back, cyborg's back, all

26:42

these big stars are here, pay

26:45

for it, it's big. Then

26:47

they do, then you're like, oh

26:49

and here's November, here's the championships, everybody's fighting

26:51

for a million, but it's like, I don't

26:53

know any of these names, and all of

26:55

a sudden you start to feel like it

26:57

kind of takes away from that. And so I wish there

26:59

was a little better way to kind of streamline that, but

27:02

that's the way I feel about it. The way that I

27:04

feel about it is you don't make the championships a pay-per-view.

27:06

I've always felt that way about it though. You

27:08

could do that. It's your night to shine, don't

27:11

just put them on ESPN. You have

27:13

the ESPN broadcast rights deal, put them on ESPN, don't

27:15

make them, don't hide them behind a pay-per-view wall. I

27:17

don't mind it. Maybe that's a route

27:19

they pursue who knows at this point. I wonder,

27:21

because these last two years it's

27:24

been pay-per-views and people have like just

27:26

torn them to shreds over the price point and everything,

27:28

so I can't imagine too many people are purchasing it.

27:30

I wonder if they look at it and are just

27:32

like, man, think we would probably be

27:34

better off just putting this on linear television. I

27:36

like that idea quite a bit. But

27:39

as I said, I feel like that

27:41

aside, momentum is on their side right now.

27:43

They are building something here that I find

27:45

interesting and as a competitive product, which

27:48

is not something you could have said in previous

27:50

iterations. Now let's see, if

27:52

Francis goes out there and looks great, all

27:54

of a sudden the murmurs of like, hey,

27:57

I know everybody's talking about Tom Aspinall and John

27:59

Jones, But there's another guy

28:01

outside the UFC that that is still

28:04

the lineal Heavyweight champion and all

28:06

of a sudden those whispers start back up

28:08

and and the murmur about Francis starts back

28:10

up So big opportunity ahead of them Do

28:14

we want to do questions here? What do we want to do? What are you what

28:16

are you feeling? Yes, it was time

28:18

for that was without Ripper

28:23

some questions now Frank Frank

28:29

is a little a little trigger happy

28:31

today. Yes, like Frank is like maybe on a

28:34

Vacation I feel like Frank's the one going on

28:36

vacation. He's got a cruise come we gotta get to

28:39

the bottom of this Frankie Are you nervous about

28:41

something something going on in your life like that? We

28:43

don't know about what what is causing me? You to

28:45

jump the gun here. So so

28:47

rapidly Did you

28:49

guys not want to do the questions? I'm

28:51

sorry. I mean it was more of like

28:53

hey GC. We're free-flowing here What do you

28:55

feel like I thought it was like a

28:57

rhetorical like should we do the questions the

28:59

answers? Yes, Frank Frank really seems to grab

29:01

the reins much firmer, but it's

29:04

not how wanting when when yep. Yeah Yeah, tiptoes.

29:06

He walks on eggshells around all day age then

29:08

when it's awesome He just tries to bully us

29:10

into stuff Do you think that's something more about

29:12

Frank or do you think that's something about like

29:14

what kind of tire in Ariel is like? What

29:16

do you think the? There

29:19

he goes. I mean did you hear the

29:21

agony in his voice after you called it?

29:25

I think it sounds more. I think

29:27

it says more about Frank. I

29:29

think it's a Frankie thing But we're happy to

29:31

have you Frank as always. Okay,

29:34

we're gonna do the questions first question

29:37

Dominic Sasseer Sassere

29:40

Sassere what up GC Rick

29:42

and the rest of the crew I don't know if you

29:44

guys saw the new in the news earlier this year that

29:46

Sacramento State University partnered with Uriah Faber To create combat

29:48

you yes We did see that Uriah came on the show

29:50

and actually had spoken to Ariel about that First

29:53

of its kind program where students will be able to

29:55

team train with Uriah Faber and MMA fighters to hopefully

29:57

create a pathway For those who want

29:59

to compete in combat sports professionally. The students will

30:02

have access to scholarships and other resources they would

30:04

not otherwise likely have if training in MMA early

30:06

on. In the future, could you guys see more

30:08

universities creating combat sports programs and partnering with local

30:11

MMA fighters to train future combat sports professionals in

30:13

this kind of setting? Love you all. Thanks for

30:15

the amazing content every week. I love the idea.

30:17

I had when we were talking about boxing in

30:19

the Olympics, and I was saying I would like

30:22

to see MMA in the Olympics one day, I

30:25

think you need amateur systems to

30:27

be established in the US and

30:29

around the world in very specific,

30:31

professional and proactive ways. And

30:34

this feels like a no brainer, right? Like

30:36

Uriah Faber is a legendary fighter himself, now

30:39

a great coach, somebody who's been involved in the sport

30:41

and will continue to be involved in the sport for

30:43

a long time seems to have the best interest of

30:45

the sport in mind. This feels like

30:47

a great first step. I would love to see

30:49

things like this continuing to happen and expanded and

30:52

just more people wanting to give back and foster

30:54

and nurture a youth program. Now, certainly, I have

30:56

to imagine if you're Uriah Faber, there's a big

30:58

opportunity to like scout talent there. But hey, if

31:01

you're the one providing those resources and figuring out

31:03

how to do that, you deserve

31:05

that edge. And I think more should be thinking that way.

31:08

Yeah, anything that can grow the game, as

31:10

they say, that's it. I'm in favor of.

31:13

I love that. So yeah, shout out to them. But

31:15

he did he did come on the show and actually talk to Ari

31:17

about that. Sub Matty

31:20

Mo sub GC, Rick and grand Diddy, shout

31:22

out to the grand Diddy reference hearing

31:25

Peyton Talbot talk about his love for skateboarding inspired me

31:28

to buy a skateboard for the first time in my

31:30

life. I've been learning how to ride, but I can't

31:32

seem to Ollie for the life of me. I was

31:34

wondering if any of you have ever skateboarded any tips

31:36

you can give to someone starting off for the first

31:39

time. Thanks for holding on the Fort Wower is gone.

31:41

Any skateboarders amongst us? Joe gotta

31:43

be Joe. Crypto Joe. Yes.

31:45

Simon. Okay, definitely. Let's go. I

31:50

wouldn't call myself a skateboarder, but like I owned

31:52

a skateboard growing up and I would like attempt

31:54

to do it with my friends. I could Ollie

31:56

at one point I could kick flip to Oh,

31:58

wow. I played Tony Hawk. I

32:01

love Tony Hawk. I mean,

32:03

I actually bought the most recent one that came out in 2020, beat

32:05

it in like two days. Uh, was one of my favorite

32:08

video games growing up. Uh, yeah. So

32:10

like I would not call myself a skateboarder, but I did

32:12

own a skateboard and I liked messing around on it. I

32:15

mean, eight shit way more times than, than

32:18

I can count. Uh, but yeah,

32:20

I have successfully ollied and kicked flipped before in

32:22

my life. So I

32:24

was, tell us Joe. Uh, yeah,

32:26

I skated for like 10 years. How good

32:28

were we? Like, what, what was like

32:30

the best track we could do? Uh, I did a backboard down a

32:33

handrail. Oh, so you

32:35

could like grind on the rails and like do some

32:37

real stuff. Yeah. And then

32:39

I broke my ankle and then I kind of hung

32:41

it up there. Uh, Mattie Mo, don't be scared

32:44

by Joe's injuries. Um, there's people who do it safely, although not

32:46

many. I feel like there's a lot of injuries in, uh, in

32:48

this stuff. I

32:50

mean, I was what the kids at

32:53

the park called a poser because I

32:55

would have like the soap shoes and like

32:57

do the grinding on like park benches with

32:59

like the shoes, the ones that had the

33:01

giant disclaimer sticker on them and wear like

33:04

jenko jeans and like be into like the culture that

33:06

seemed to be prevalent at that time, but

33:08

I was not at any way. Uh, did

33:10

you have a chain wallet? I was short of that.

33:13

I had, I had the jenkos

33:15

though, and I was like trying

33:17

to vibe with the other people, but I just, I didn't,

33:19

I didn't want to eat shit on the skateboard. That is

33:21

what stopped me from doing it. It's a little scary. I

33:25

tried to Ali or even like, I would just

33:27

even try to like pedal and like go fast.

33:29

And I just didn't remember the brands like world

33:31

industry. Oh yeah, of course. But from Tony

33:34

Hawk was more of where I would get that experience. Yeah.

33:37

Spitfire. Yeah.

33:39

The bird birdhouse. Yeah. Birdhouse.

33:42

Oh, and tech decks. I had tech decks and that's the other

33:44

way. I just want to ask you guys ever get into tech

33:46

decks. Oh, yeah. Like tech decks were after our time, Rick. No,

33:49

tech decks. I was in junior high school. No,

33:52

tech decks. I was in junior high playing with

33:54

the tech decks all day. Maybe

33:57

high school. I forget. I was playing with tech decks

33:59

in class. There's something special about watching someone

34:01

that is really good with the tech deck.

34:03

I mean, it's something special. Heelys, you guys

34:05

ever rip it up on the Heelys? I

34:07

never did. That was after.

34:09

That was after my time. This is another

34:11

example. Connor, did you have a Razor scooter?

34:15

Yeah. And Rick, I imagine you

34:17

didn't, because that was after our time. No, I definitely

34:19

had a Razor scooter. But I wasn't... I

34:22

actually was wondering if you thought that that was two

34:24

before my time. Yeah, no, Razors were big. I

34:26

mean, you'd have to hit the brake and it

34:29

would feel like the wheel was just disintegrating as

34:31

you brake. It had brakes on it? Oh, yeah,

34:33

you hit your shin. It was game over. I

34:36

just recently watched a TikTok of

34:38

a guy purposefully, like a compilation of him

34:40

purposely hitting your shins with the Razor. There's

34:43

nothing like getting hit in the shin by

34:46

a Razor. Twist it too hard. I would

34:48

argue... Yeah, I love the Razor, man. He's

34:50

got the Tony Ferguson unbreakable shins after this.

34:52

I'm sure he's conditioned his legs. Oh, yeah.

34:56

I was gonna say... Waiting forward? Is that before your time?

34:58

I don't even know what that is. That's

35:00

where like it was a skateboard separated

35:02

into like two pieces. Oh,

35:05

I've seen it. You would build your own momentum.

35:07

I was terrible at them. I think it was

35:10

called a waveboard. I was so bad at them.

35:12

I had friends that could just rip on them.

35:14

Yeah, I've never written on that. I

35:16

know what it is. As you said, like you

35:19

were thinking... You

35:21

were saying it's impressive to see people do the

35:23

tech deck. I feel that way about like the

35:25

people who are sick with the Razors when they're

35:27

jumping and doing like six spins before they land

35:30

and shit. That's hardcore. That's

35:33

very hardcore. I mean, they got like YouTube, you can

35:35

go on. They have tech deck highlight reels now. Sometimes

35:37

I'll watch them. I mean, some people are sick on.

35:39

So you're just pulling that up. It's Thursday night and

35:41

you're just like, who's got the

35:44

tech deck skills? This is kind of

35:46

funny though. If I come across a

35:48

tech deck highlight reel, I'm watching it

35:50

for sure. Consider generationally, it started like

35:52

this. You had the skateboard and like

35:54

the BMX bike, right? Yeah, like the

35:56

OG. The actual skitter. Yeah. Then

35:59

people just started... Planking But

36:02

like for the internet mean thing I'm

36:04

planking in a random spot Oh, yeah

36:06

actual working out. Yeah, and then you

36:08

get parkour I just think

36:10

it's like what what I'm

36:13

not why would planking be in that group

36:15

I'm not like that would that maybe

36:17

I'm wrong But I just remember

36:19

that becoming like an internet sensation where you'd almost

36:21

have like instead of like a skate to video

36:24

It'd be like here's someone planking and like the

36:26

most random spots I don't feel

36:28

like that became part of like that Specific

36:30

culture like I'm tracking with like parkour

36:33

the BMX and and that the razor I feel like

36:35

that's separate that feels more in the bucket of like

36:37

the ice bucket challenge or

36:40

like the people climbing on crates that just feels

36:42

like weird internet shit like it doesn't feel like

36:44

the like sporting version

36:46

of like doing death defying stuff because

36:48

like planking is not like dangerous whereas

36:50

like BMX No, people were like planking

36:53

in like the middle of a street and

36:55

a kitchen Maybe that was

36:57

my take on it was I was like,

36:59

yeah I think you were making it more

37:01

of a sport than just like dumb kids

37:04

doing dumb shit Oh, I think you sent

37:06

you several tech that highlight tapes and your

37:08

favorites billions of years I just

37:10

sent you the 2011 US fingerboarding championship finals

37:12

in New York and they do it at

37:14

the bottom Like they're in a half pipe

37:16

and then a table is set up with

37:18

a tech tech skate park Do

37:23

you think do you think they'll ever have tech

37:25

deck in the Olympics or is tech deck now

37:27

like fading? I don't know the same fading. Okay, it's

37:29

fading for sure Yeah, cuz

37:31

that highlight is old. They call it Fingerboarding,

37:33

you know, this is sort of the branding, you know,

37:35

could I have a tissue could I have a clean?

37:37

Ah tech deck is the break? Yeah, yeah, you're got

37:39

it. Got it. I might have to pull it up

37:41

I might have to to cop myself a tech deck

37:44

start start getting back in the gym In

37:47

the lab with the tech deck. I love it.

37:49

Okay big game hunting. What's up gents? Two quick

37:51

ones do both of you truly believe McGregor is

37:53

going to fight again If so, will it be

37:55

Chandler feels like someone want some he wants someone

37:57

else but won't say it. What is the gut

37:59

feeling telling? Let's answer that one first. Connor

38:01

fights again? McGregor,

38:04

Chandler, December. Connor

38:06

fights again? I am not sure it's going to be Michael Chandler.

38:09

He is... I'm sticking by my guns. He is

38:11

very clear that he does not want to fight

38:13

Michael Chandler. In fact, we even had like Connor

38:15

was Twitter ranting as he's

38:18

known to do. He's been Twitter ranting

38:20

a lot lately. And he said Michael

38:23

was like, I should have known. You're

38:25

never actually coming back. And McGregor was

38:27

like, oh, good. I'll fight Max Holloway.

38:29

What's he doing? He's a real BMF.

38:31

Let me go fight Holloway. So I

38:34

think Chandler is on thin ice with

38:36

some of the displeasure he's had with

38:38

Connor McGregor. Because I don't think it's

38:40

going to take much to push Connor

38:42

another direction. This feels like the

38:45

UFC is going to have to be the ones

38:47

that really want this, the way they really want

38:49

John versus Stipe. Otherwise, I don't

38:52

think McGregor wants Michael Chandler anymore. McGregor's

38:55

walking out with motorcycles and Irish flags

38:57

on American Rock, the BKFC chugging, forged

39:00

Irish stout on the broadcast. Yeah,

39:03

he's out dancing at clubs. Did

39:06

you see that one girl who was trying to dance? I did. Just

39:09

wasn't successful. I was

39:11

going to pull up some of McGregor's tweets, but it looks

39:13

like he's deleted all of them, unfortunately. He was going off

39:15

on a lot of people. Did

39:17

you see the version of the dancing meme where they

39:20

had Connor as PFL and

39:23

Mokayev as the woman who was trying

39:25

to dance? And he was just ignoring.

39:28

And obviously, the conceit of the video for anybody who

39:30

hasn't seen it is he's just not interested, just not

39:33

giving attention. If

39:35

he doesn't fight Chandler, dude, at that

39:37

point, it'll be December. So it'll be over two years since

39:39

the last time we saw Michael Chandler. Where

39:42

does that rank in just all time feeling

39:46

bad for someone moment? I

39:50

don't feel bad because you

39:52

have to do it if you're him. You have

39:54

to take that opportunity. You have to pursue it.

39:56

He didn't do anything wrong. And

39:58

if it had been. successful, it would have been

40:00

the biggest payday of his life. If

40:03

it ultimately fizzles, like I don't feel bad as much as

40:05

I feel like, yeah, we lost

40:07

some great years of Michael Chandler, but it's the type of like,

40:09

if I'm in his shoes, that's what you

40:11

do. But after that point, if it doesn't happen in

40:13

December, are you done? Are you like, we have to,

40:15

I have to have a fight? Yeah,

40:18

yeah. I mean, if it, how long can you

40:20

wait, right? I guess he, I

40:22

guess he just needs like closure. He needs like clearance

40:24

from the UFC, like this fight is not going to

40:26

happen. Yeah. Before you give up on it. Because at

40:29

this point, you're just like, man, I've already waited this

40:31

long. Remember, I'm a little bit

40:33

biased though, because I do have that bet I took at

40:35

the beginning of the year, Will McGregor fight in 2024, like

40:37

plus 200. And it looked like the luck of the

40:40

year in like, May.

40:44

And now, now I'm nervous about it. Yeah,

40:47

that one seems to cash a lot, huh?

40:49

That one, that one's starting to become an

40:51

auto cash. Yeah, I think we,

40:53

I think we sneak it into December. I

40:56

hope so. Do either of you

40:58

fish just got into it the last few

41:00

months and it is electric curious if anyone

41:02

on the show enjoy some good old fishing.

41:04

So wow, we've gotten skateboarding and fishing questions.

41:06

I love it. I do not

41:08

fish. I have fished, but I do

41:10

not fish. Very similar to the skateboarding

41:12

thing. Yeah, like I do, I do not fish. I

41:14

don't even know I'm a fishing pole right now. But I

41:17

have fished. I mean, dozens and dozens

41:19

of time in my life growing up in Georgia,

41:21

obviously lakes everywhere. People

41:23

I feel like fishing is more popular than

41:25

it is here than it is

41:27

in New York. And then my

41:30

grandfather lived in Florida and loved fishing.

41:32

So I'd go with him all the

41:34

time. I mean, I've got some

41:36

pretty big fish, kind of shark before a lemon shark,

41:39

cut some dolphin fish off a off a

41:41

Key West. Kind of do it

41:43

one time. Do you enjoy it? Like, are you

41:45

when you do go fishing? Are you like, this

41:47

is great. I would like to do this, but

41:49

I'm just like not in the mode. Are you

41:51

kind of like lukewarm to it? Like, what's your

41:54

vibe when you're out there? I'm sort of like

41:56

I got I got one fishing trip in me

41:58

a year. Okay, got it. Like

42:00

I don't want to put in all the effort

42:02

of like getting all the bait setting Yeah, getting

42:04

all the gear that you need to have because

42:06

then you you know You could go on a

42:09

fishing trip and and catch nothing and it's just

42:11

miserable So one of my favorite memories is

42:13

for my bachelor party. We went fishing

42:15

in Nalins, right? We went down that

42:17

was the that was a bachelor trip

42:20

and we're on the boat and we're catching like redfish

42:22

and we have planned We

42:25

found a spot that cooks the fish you catch right

42:28

because that meal is gonna be amazing, right? He's like

42:30

we caught this and so we're catching the matter if

42:32

the fish is bad The fact that you caught it

42:34

is going to make it taste 5x

42:36

better 10x like we were just so hyped

42:38

for this And so we're

42:40

catching like a few but they're kind of small right? They're

42:42

like, okay, we get enough that it's gonna make a good

42:44

meal fast forward We get a great meal, but in the

42:46

midst of that one of my buddies

42:49

one of my groomsmen my one of my best friends it

42:52

throws out the throws out the line and he's

42:54

tugging on it and he's got something big and he's

42:56

reeling it and the guy who's the captain of the

42:58

boat is looking at us because we're like out with

43:01

like a Like a tour

43:03

like a service that's taking it out. So

43:05

he's reeling and he's like I got

43:07

a big one He's pulling it. It's rough. It's

43:09

fighting back. Oh my god. He's got it. He's

43:11

got it. He's got it He

43:14

reels it in he had hit

43:16

land. It was a patch of grass and we

43:18

just Relentlessly ripped them he

43:21

Brings it in and it was the most

43:23

disappointing moment for all of us and we're

43:25

just dying laughing and the captain is doubled

43:27

over But I love that memory.

43:29

It was it was a great time. I mean,

43:31

that's a good one That's good. I used to have

43:33

a dream for a while like a dream of mine

43:35

to accomplish Was to catch like

43:37

a blue Marlin like a giant trophy

43:40

fish out like off the coast

43:43

in the Atlantic Ocean That's what the long nose

43:45

right? Yeah, that's the one

43:47

that like there's a real danger of when you bring

43:49

it into the boat of like it could potentially stab

43:51

you Oh, no, I feel like all

43:53

fish can like fin you right? Yeah,

43:57

they swing their so much it could cut you

43:59

or or or their tail or whatever, I'm

44:01

sure. Yeah, I guess hypothetically it could, but

44:03

I mean, most fish are, that's not a

44:05

major concern. Like a marlin will get on

44:08

there and- So this is funny.

44:10

For someone with fishes, somebody was like, watch out, Frank,

44:12

you can get finned, and that's been in my head

44:14

ever since. And then now you're like,

44:16

it's actually not that big of a concern. I'm sure there

44:18

are many fish that that is true of, but there's also

44:21

many that is not true of. But you could

44:23

get a snap for the tail. Yeah, it's not a really bad

44:25

concern in my mind. I feel like you gotta get your reps

44:27

up though, if you actually want a blue marlin. First

44:30

of all, you're not going off it enough. Then you gotta

44:32

get your skills, right? Once you get that thing on

44:34

the hook, how are we gonna reel that thing in if

44:36

you're only going once a year? I've

44:39

heard that it takes like hours, but- And

44:41

you always catch like a year in like a war,

44:44

dude. You are in a war. That was my buddy,

44:46

except it was a patch of grass, and it was

44:48

incredible. I mean, could you imagine

44:50

you get a blue marlin on the hook, and then it

44:52

gets in the boat, and it tries to stab you through

44:54

the heart, and you dodge it, and it's just like, hang

44:58

that thing in your living room, get it

45:00

taxidermied. Yeah. I feel

45:02

like that's the one that's- That was a dream of mine from like 14 to 17. That's

45:06

a very specific time. I feel like that's one of

45:08

the ones that's in like every seafood restaurant, right? Like

45:10

they got the plaque with the blue marlin on it.

45:12

Oh yeah. Yeah, my

45:14

grandfather caught the biggest sawfish

45:17

in Florida history at the time, in like 1940

45:19

something. And he still

45:21

has the saw to this day, and it's like- Oh,

45:23

that's sick. I love that. See, that's the cool part

45:25

about, I don't actually want to go fishing

45:27

that much, but like the idea of like the trophy,

45:30

the success- I want fishing stories. Yeah, I

45:32

want fishing stories. Okay,

45:34

what's up, writer Skylar,

45:37

or writer, sorry, writer Sklar says, what's up GC

45:39

Rick and Frank? I got a quick question on

45:42

who's going to headline USC 307 in Salt Lake

45:44

City? What's the most realistic outcome and fun outcome

45:46

that we can get to headline the card or added

45:49

fights? Thank you guys. I think we all kind of

45:51

like have discussed this. It's going to

45:53

be Pena and Pennington. That is what we're

45:55

all kind of like anticipating at this point.

45:58

Yeah, I guess like the only- I

46:00

mean, other option

46:02

is like, where does Alex Pereira fall?

46:07

Yeah. Other than that. Xiong?

46:12

But even that, right, Pena and Pennington would

46:14

be the headliner there. Yeah. Yeah,

46:18

I mean. It's gonna be that. I don't

46:20

think there's much other option for them at

46:23

this point because of the way things have

46:25

played out. Yeah,

46:27

because I mean, I think

46:29

we went through it on Monday, but I mean, yeah,

46:31

you got to Borean Holloway fighting a few

46:34

weeks later. O'Malley Marab obviously

46:36

booked. Pantoja

46:38

has like no one to fight. DDP

46:41

will have just fought in the last two

46:44

months prior to that. The only thing that I've thought

46:46

of, and I said it last time, and it didn't

46:48

land very well with you and Ariel, is an interim

46:50

lightweight belt. That's the only thing I can think, right?

46:52

Because Islam is gonna be on the shelf, and that

46:54

is why he's not headlining Abu Dhabi, and that is

46:56

why you have to move Max and Ilya. And

46:59

so Armin versus somebody.

47:01

Armin versus Dustin. Armin versus anybody, and I

47:03

feel like that's a potential option, but like

47:05

it's not a great one. You don't really

47:08

wanna make that belt, especially if Islam's coming

47:10

back sooner rather than later,

47:12

so. Yeah, but that

47:14

card needs some beefing up. That card needs some

47:16

beefing up. You have Kayla versus

47:18

Kettlin Vieira. You've got- Movsar Aljo.

47:21

Movsar Aljo. You've got Pena and

47:23

Pennington, and you've got Aldo on

47:25

it. UFC

47:28

just, Aldo versus rising guy that

47:30

we really like. That seems to be the MO

47:32

that they've got for Jose Aldo. I don't know

47:34

how- He's probably just gonna strike with him. He's

47:36

probably just gonna strike with him, which won't

47:39

fare well. I don't know how we

47:41

got into this lane for Jose Aldo, but

47:44

God bless. I'm never gonna not watch a

47:46

Jose Aldo fight, but it just- I was gonna say, the

47:49

more I can watch Aldo, the better. It feels odd

47:51

that this is what we've got with a legend like

47:53

Jose Aldo. Everybody's like, Dominic Cruz, this, that, the other.

47:55

It's like, no, like up and coming prospect guy that's

47:57

like really good, that we probably don't want to derail.

48:00

the train. Let's put him against a killer in Josie

48:02

Aldo. But

48:04

it's not a terror like look from top to bottom

48:06

like there's some names on there that you want to

48:08

see fight and it's not terrible but yeah it is

48:10

Matt it's missing a little bit out of oomph but

48:13

pain never says Pennington is

48:15

a good fight and one that like has some history behind

48:17

it and one that will move the division forward that you've

48:20

got to say what has to happen and then you've got

48:22

Kayla there on the same card like

48:24

I'm okay with it I know you know the

48:26

fans in Utah are gonna be like well we didn't

48:29

get what we thought we were gonna get right people

48:31

were thinking like oh we're gonna get Max and Ilya

48:33

or we're even gonna get Sean and Marab

48:36

like those were the things that were

48:38

swirling around those dates it's

48:40

still it's still a good card. We're

48:42

biased because obviously we'll have a Parley Powell

48:45

main eventing on pay-per-view. Hell yeah. Who's gonna

48:47

win a belt but also Salt

48:50

Lake City's got some good fights in the

48:52

last couple years. Yeah. They got the Leon

48:54

Usman, they got the

48:56

Gaethje Poirier last year.

48:59

Another one where it didn't seem like they had

49:01

something and then they made something so maybe they can pull

49:03

something out of there? You never know with

49:05

UFC you never know what the UFC. Mr.

49:08

Clean with the return of Ngano announced for October I

49:10

have a question seeing as Francis's MMA game is largely

49:13

based on boxing do you think that all the boxing

49:15

training and competition he will be better than ever as

49:17

an MMA fighter or do you think the time away

49:19

from training other aspects of MMA could leave him with

49:21

a weakness to being exploited in his upcoming fight? I'll

49:23

say this as clearly as possible training

49:26

MMA is the way to fight MMA and training

49:28

boxing is the way to fight boxing. He

49:31

is going to not be optimal

49:35

because of time away. Now can he do some

49:37

things to get back on track and the

49:39

camp that it is gonna be ahead of him

49:42

in terms of training for MMA? Yes but it

49:44

is not gonna be like he comes in there

49:46

as some like superior MMA striker to even what

49:48

we saw before because he has been training boxing

49:50

training MMA is the best way to get better

49:53

at MMA. Yeah I

49:56

guess it all depends on how the fight goes too I

49:58

mean if it ends in the first minute then I don't

50:00

even really think it's gonna matter but if an arm

50:02

for error is trying to mix in the wrestling and

50:04

and really make it an MMA fight then yeah it's

50:06

gonna be interesting to see it. JD

50:09

Russell Aloha crew seeing as some Olympic sports

50:11

are judged why do you think MMA doesn't

50:13

use more than three judges thus taking out

50:15

the variability of inconsistent scorecards a better method

50:17

would be to have five judges and toss

50:20

out the scorecard that favors each fighter the

50:22

most thus leaving three most agreeable scorecards also

50:24

why are not judges why are judges not

50:26

given any fighter statistics after each round to

50:28

help them make a more informed decision

50:30

for example significant strikes control time etc

50:33

so do you like the idea

50:35

of five judges toss out the two

50:37

most extreme scorecards? Oh

50:40

man I don't know cuz what if they're

50:42

not what if there are no extreme scorecards?

50:45

Well then it's unanimous then it's consensus anyway

50:47

right if there's no extreme scorecards then it's

50:49

like all five agreed mostly and

50:51

then you that's the right decision anyway I don't

50:53

hate that I don't hate that I don't. Right

50:55

what if it's what if it's 48 47

50:58

on three judges scorecards and 47 48 on

51:01

two judges scorecards? Oh I see what

51:03

you're saying well then the three then you

51:05

just throw out one forty four so you throw out one

51:08

of each and you've got the split

51:10

for the one who had the two the more

51:12

majority of the 48 47s. One judging idea

51:16

that I've always liked that I think would be very interesting

51:18

to see is you take

51:20

the round by like so say like

51:23

if it's like a judge judges score

51:25

two out of three for the round

51:27

that fighter wins that round and it's

51:29

like a cumulative of the

51:31

Georgia scorecards. So what's funny is

51:34

go ahead I was

51:36

just gonna say like we've seen in like the Calvin Kater Josh

51:38

Hammond fight and one

51:40

other recently where it's like he technically

51:42

on two out of three judges scorecards

51:44

won more rounds but it still lost

51:46

the fight. So what's funny about a

51:48

lot of these is like this five

51:51

judge throwout two has been proposed before

51:53

right as has just having

51:55

five judges in general as has

51:57

score by the round for each five.

51:59

by the round. For

52:02

that one specifically, somebody

52:04

that I was interacting with crunched

52:06

the numbers on this, and

52:08

basically a handful of cards

52:11

get overturned, and some of them are

52:13

not even the controversial ones that you

52:15

have. The ones where it's like Kater

52:17

and Emmet that are

52:19

like, Stick out in my mind. Stick out in

52:21

your mind, are the actual ones that it would

52:23

affect, but the reality is it wouldn't change, like

52:26

the amount it would actually change, it would not change

52:28

anything. And it would

52:30

turn some that maybe were

52:32

more reasonable

52:34

to the opposite, but it's like a

52:36

handful each year, based

52:38

on what the statistics would show from this person

52:40

who crunched the numbers. Maybe that has changed, and

52:44

this might be data from 2022, 2023, maybe that's changed recently, but

52:49

it doesn't affect a lot of fights. And so it could

52:52

be, and it could ultimately lead to some better

52:54

outcomes, but it's not gonna really affect it

52:56

enough that it's a big change in the sport,

52:58

which I don't

53:01

know, I don't know what it's gonna take, I don't

53:03

know what the solution is. I'm at

53:05

the point where I'm like, let's just try stuff. I'm

53:07

okay with trying options. Like let's just try stuff. I

53:09

don't get with trying options as well. Yeah, and I

53:11

don't know if giving them statistics after the round is

53:13

gonna help, that could lead to a bias. Like if

53:15

they're about to score for someone and then they see

53:17

that they got outstruck 30 to 25, could

53:20

that end up changing their mind? Yeah, it's,

53:23

there's no perfect,

53:25

all these solutions are

53:29

looking for like, what's the perfect way to do it?

53:31

How do we fix it? And there's not gonna be

53:33

one thing that fixes it. We need to just try

53:35

a few things and ultimately, if we see the data

53:37

works and the success, let's go for it. Speaking

53:39

of data, he suggested giving data to the

53:41

judges. I don't like that idea because I

53:43

think what happens with a lot of like

53:45

advanced statistics and things in modern

53:48

like sports is people just

53:50

stick to that too religiously. Like they are

53:52

too strict with looking at that. And if

53:54

you see like, oh, this person has more

53:56

significant strikes, you're gonna be like, I

53:58

must score the round for them. and they're gonna feel

54:00

compelled to do it. I want them to be there

54:02

and viewing it. Okay, one

54:05

other idea. They

54:07

sit in the back with like a judge's feed

54:11

and they have no, it's just them

54:13

sitting there by themselves and

54:16

they just watch it on television because from

54:18

sitting very close to a cage and

54:20

watching a fight, the view on TV

54:22

is inarguably better than the one right

54:24

next to the cage. Not only that,

54:27

but the judges are positioned in different

54:29

parts of the cage, right? So they're

54:31

seeing different things than other judges are

54:33

seeing. And so that creates that difference

54:35

of viewpoint. And so what you're suggesting

54:37

is put them in the back, give

54:39

them the best possible angle and everything,

54:41

and they all see the same consistent

54:44

picture and they might arrive at similar

54:46

conclusions. I don't hate it, I don't

54:48

hate it. I

54:50

think there's some things that you can see

54:52

in person that don't translate on TV. And

54:56

so I don't know what's better, but

54:58

to the point that we're trying to make, let's

55:01

try it. Let's see what happens if we give

55:03

some judges that opportunity and see what the results look

55:05

like. Can the crowd

55:07

not influence the judge? If they're

55:09

at the apex, the judges can

55:11

hear the commentary. Are there not

55:13

factors that could be playing

55:16

into their decisions? Do you have

55:18

them padded soundproof room, earbuds, don't

55:20

look at each other, look at, it's

55:23

like different rooms. Different rooms. Different rooms.

55:25

Different society shit. You're sitting in a

55:27

white room with one television screen and

55:29

you put on noise canceling headphones to

55:31

watch the round, you score it, you

55:33

hand it off, and

55:36

then that's it. Here's what I would say to that.

55:39

They're gonna have to quadruple the pay at

55:41

the bare minimum if you want people to

55:43

suffer through this torture because- Maybe that's another

55:45

thing, maybe that's another thing you do. You

55:47

raise the pay to keep these people more

55:49

accountable. I mean, it's just like- Let

55:53

them answer for it as well. There's so

55:55

many issues, there's so many ways that you could make

55:58

this a better profession.

56:00

Yeah. Peter, Peter Substack, what's

56:02

the crack, uh, Ariel GC, Rick Frank

56:04

and the rest of the crew? Simple

56:06

question this week on a scale of

56:09

one to lad Dumas, what do you

56:11

rate this week's apex event? Oh man,

56:13

I got some feelings on it. Uh,

56:16

yeah, it's, it's lad Dumas territory, dude. It

56:18

is, uh, it is not a good offering.

56:20

It's 10 fights. Um, I

56:22

think the main event is ranked, which is a

56:24

rematch. That was a 30 27 decision

56:26

victory from our scene. Tabira. Uh,

56:28

and then the only other ranked fighters on

56:30

it are in the women's Bantamweight division, uh,

56:33

which obviously is, is not a deep division at all.

56:36

And, uh, yeah, it just,

56:38

it just feels unnecessary. It feels like you

56:40

could have combined this card and the August

56:43

24th card and had a much

56:45

better offering. And, uh, it

56:47

smashed right in between three or four, which was

56:49

a great pay-per-view Abu Dhabi, which is a great

56:52

fight night and three Oh five, which is another

56:54

really good pay-per-view. Uh, it just feels like we,

56:56

we just didn't, didn't need this card.

56:58

I'm not going to get out of baseball bat and

57:00

beat the horse, but I'm just going to like poke

57:02

it right with my finger and just say, if

57:05

you want things to change, you can't watch the cards. If

57:08

you want thing, if, if you will turn on Saturday

57:10

night and you will watch this card, nothing

57:12

will change. This, this will continue to be something

57:15

that happens once every couple of months. Like you're

57:17

going to get this card. And that's the reality

57:19

of the USC is aggressive schedule. If, if the

57:22

viewership continues to be steady, then

57:25

you've asked, you've asked for this right.

57:27

Is content better than no content from the

57:29

UFC's perspective? I'm not talking about fight fans.

57:31

They're always just like, at least we got

57:34

fights. It's just like, well, we're, you were

57:36

always eating. Yes, because these are, these

57:38

are highly viewed. That's, that's why content is

57:40

better because these actually get high viewership. And

57:43

if people don't tune out, they're

57:45

under no obligation and, and nor should they as

57:47

a business decide to stop

57:49

doing this ESPN and, and UFC are

57:52

happy to continue to give you cards like this. If you

57:54

continue to tune in for them. So it

57:56

is what it is on that front. I don't know. This

58:00

might be too specific. I feel like this might

58:02

be in GC's wheelhouse. Leroy Jenkins, what's up gang?

58:04

To whom it may apply in honor of Noah

58:07

Lyle's gold medal performance. By

58:09

the way, holy sh, what a

58:11

performance that was. Insane, insane. All

58:14

the pressure that he put on himself. I mean,

58:16

everybody thought he lost, but

58:18

all the pressure he put on himself with that

58:21

shot at the Team USA basketball thing that went

58:23

viral, world champions of what, as

58:25

everybody knows. Oh yeah, the shot at the NBA,

58:27

yeah. I still don't know why people were, Americans

58:29

were so quick to hate on him. This guy

58:31

was trying to bring us gold for the first

58:34

time in 20 years, and obviously he successfully did

58:36

it, but the amount of people that were just

58:38

waiting to hate on this guy was crazy. I

58:40

get it, because I have some friends who are

58:42

basketball fans. It's Team USA basketball is such a

58:45

pride for us, and feeling like

58:47

you're talking about the NBA, which

58:50

provides the players for that, felt like

58:52

a shot to those players, and to

58:54

the NBA, and to the sport of

58:56

basketball, for those hardcore basketball fans. If

58:59

I'm not mistaken, he was saying that the

59:01

NBA champions calling themselves world champions is ridiculous,

59:03

that's what we said, correct? No doubt he

59:05

was, and I mean, we

59:07

could make this a very MMA conversation, right? Is

59:10

the UFC champion a world champion? Well,

59:14

I say yes, but I also think that

59:16

the NBA is the world champion. See, that's

59:18

the equivalent, right? That's the equivalent, the NBA

59:20

is. And so people, if you

59:22

said to somebody, the UFC doesn't have the

59:24

world champion, there are some people who just

59:26

on the affinity for that promotion within the

59:29

sport, would be like, not F that, F

59:31

that, whoever says that. So that's where I

59:33

think some of that is coming from. But

59:36

what a freaking win. Down for the first

59:39

40 meters, and then just turns on the

59:41

jets, and gets it by a nose, incredible.

59:44

I thought he lost. I thought

59:46

he came in third at first. It

59:48

was such, it was a photo finish, like the literal

59:50

definition of it, like you have to go to the

59:52

tape, and figure this out. But

59:55

champion. I saw a wild meme where it was

59:57

just like, it's very similar to a lot of

59:59

people were posting the Jerry Seinfeld. skit of like

1:00:01

talking about like the neck and it's just like,

1:00:03

yeah, first place, second place, never heard of the

1:00:05

guy. Yeah, I saw one where it was where

1:00:08

it was a picture and it was like Noah

1:00:10

Liles was like fastest man alive. And then the

1:00:12

dude who finished next to him who came in

1:00:14

fourth that was like six

1:00:16

1000th of a second behind him and

1:00:19

it was just like didn't even metal.

1:00:21

Yeah, it's just crazy the the margins

1:00:23

in the hundred meter. But

1:00:26

shout out to Noah Liles bringing home gold for

1:00:28

USA. In honor of his performance, what were some

1:00:30

of your favorite most coveted Yu-Gi-Oh cards because unless

1:00:32

I'm mistaken, right, he had the Yu-Gi-Oh card on

1:00:34

the chain. And so what are the Yeah, that

1:00:36

is something that he's done. Yeah. And he walked

1:00:38

up with like the Yu-Gi-Oh card

1:00:40

thing from the show. Did

1:00:45

you play Yu-Gi-Oh? I did not. I'm wondering

1:00:47

if Frank did. I

1:00:51

feel like I got into this on the show

1:00:53

before. Like I was like Yu-Gi-Oh obsessed. I would

1:00:56

go play tournaments around the Atlanta area and like

1:00:58

I won several of them before. I had Exodia

1:01:00

before it got outlawed. Like I

1:01:02

was all into it. I sold my cards when

1:01:04

I finally decided to quit. Sold

1:01:07

my cards for over a grand. That's the

1:01:09

one that um, that's

1:01:11

the one that you assemble the Exodia.

1:01:13

That's the one that you like, put

1:01:16

together. Once you have all five pieces

1:01:18

in your hand, the match was over.

1:01:20

That was like, Oh, instant game over.

1:01:22

Instant game over. Yeah, now it's like

1:01:24

forbidden. I remember you had to collect

1:01:26

all five pieces and it was very

1:01:28

rare and Can we meet in

1:01:30

the middle? Did any of you play Pokemon? I

1:01:33

never played it. I collected the cards, but I never played it.

1:01:36

You never played the video games you only collected the card? No,

1:01:38

no, no, I never played the cards. I never played the card

1:01:41

game. Collected the card. I played the video game.

1:01:43

I played the video game. I collected the cards

1:01:45

and I sold them like that was my like

1:01:47

I was trying to make money off them. I

1:01:49

never I never like played them. The only one

1:01:51

I played card game wise was magic and I'm

1:01:53

still playing magic. I played that was the

1:01:55

thing when Pokemon first came out. I

1:01:58

played was well No,

1:02:00

just keep going. No, no, go. Go, Frank. Tell

1:02:02

us. WotC had put out Pokemon originally. So

1:02:04

the mechanics behind the game were very similar

1:02:07

to Magic in that they were thought out.

1:02:09

It was balanced. And then they lost the

1:02:11

license. And Nintendo was like, we'll continue this

1:02:13

on our own. And it's become a bastardization

1:02:15

of the rules. So I can't vouch for

1:02:17

it now. But there was a time in

1:02:20

the late 90s where it was good. Yeah,

1:02:23

I play MTG Arena, which is basically their

1:02:25

online. I play it on my phone. And

1:02:27

you can download it off the computer.

1:02:31

There is a version of what you're talking about,

1:02:33

Frank, which is Wizards. I think it's Wizards, right?

1:02:36

They still have the thing. But there's

1:02:39

different play formats. And there's a

1:02:42

digital format called Alchemy, where they have cards that

1:02:44

can do things that you can't do with physical

1:02:46

cards. And so there's a lot of old school

1:02:48

hardcore players that hate Alchemy. I like Alchemy. And

1:02:51

I play Alchemy. But

1:02:53

I play MTG Arena, to the point where my daughters yesterday

1:02:55

were like, Daddy, when are we going to have daddy daughter

1:02:57

time? All you do is play your card game. And I

1:02:59

was like, oh, you got to. Wait till I start playing

1:03:02

it. I have two dads? Well,

1:03:04

for what it's worth, Frank, I

1:03:06

sent you a request on MTG Arena. Yeah, I

1:03:08

lost my account. So I

1:03:10

have to restart. And then I

1:03:12

have the mysterious Frank one. And you just

1:03:14

stand by. It sounds like an excuse, because

1:03:16

my bat's deck is flames right

1:03:18

now. Bring it on. It's really hot. With

1:03:20

the new Bloomboro expansion

1:03:23

pack that just came out, like I've got some heat

1:03:25

in that deck. Enjoy

1:03:27

this time. We were like, I'm on top. And then

1:03:29

later, we'd be like, Frank, can we just stop playing?

1:03:32

Can we go back to old Frank? I

1:03:35

am going through some OG Yu-Gi-Oh cards. And

1:03:37

it is just like bringing me back crazy

1:03:39

nostalgia right now. Pot of green. Do you

1:03:42

still have the physicals anywhere? No,

1:03:44

sold my whole collection. Oh, yeah, that's right. OK. This

1:03:47

did come up, because you said that to me.

1:03:49

You told me that you sold it. I remember

1:03:51

that part now, that you sold the whole thing.

1:03:53

Oh, yeah, on eBay, bro. When I was like

1:03:55

15, I thought I was like the richest guy

1:03:57

on Earth. Oh, yeah, man, shout out the dark

1:03:59

magician. And then you had red eyes. Black dragon

1:04:01

that okay, so I think Kaiba had in you

1:04:03

go I mean, I'm we're

1:04:05

really pulling at the nostalgia strings right now I

1:04:08

never watched the show like I wasn't like a

1:04:10

Yu-Gi-Oh show watcher but like sometimes it would be

1:04:12

on in the midst of like whatever I was

1:04:14

watching like Dragon Ball Z and And

1:04:17

Pokemon and all these other things and

1:04:19

I remember there was one called blue eyes white

1:04:21

dragon That was like that one. That's like the

1:04:24

Charizard like yeah, it wasn't really like that great

1:04:26

of a card It was just like the most

1:04:28

popular like Dark Magician was another one. Yeah, I

1:04:30

mean the show was pretty good It was like

1:04:32

Yu-Gi is like this like nice little kid And

1:04:35

then like he turns into like the dueling version

1:04:37

of himself and he gets a dark a deep

1:04:39

voice and everything I

1:04:41

used to love I used to

1:04:43

love this I

1:04:46

used to love this card game back when I was young

1:04:48

because all my friends played it in my neighborhood So we

1:04:50

would play each other and then we would all go to

1:04:52

tournaments together And we'd see how like well we could do

1:04:54

like we were playing like grown adults It

1:04:56

was uh yeah, it was good times man. Good

1:04:59

times really there are people who play on

1:05:01

my street Like I was walking home one night and

1:05:03

they were out in their patio playing Yu-Gi-Oh I thought

1:05:05

it was magic at first. I was like, oh you

1:05:07

play a magic telling now. This is you do Do

1:05:09

they still make it or is it is it like

1:05:11

old like that? This is like vintage. Oh, wow. Okay.

1:05:13

Shout out to you I don't know if I don't

1:05:15

know if magic the gathering did this but like the

1:05:17

best part about Yu-Gi-Oh was like they had the Tier

1:05:20

system for like rarity in each

1:05:22

pack like you could just get

1:05:24

like the normal rare Lettering.

1:05:27

Yep Yeah And then you get like you get the

1:05:29

holographic and then you get the holographic with the gold

1:05:31

lettering or holographic with the silver And it was just

1:05:33

like there was nothing like ripping open a pack and

1:05:36

like you get to the rare card Whatever it was

1:05:38

and like if it was like super rare, you'd just

1:05:40

go crazy and then you get to show all your

1:05:42

friends man. I Wish

1:05:44

I had a time machine go back man. Really just take

1:05:46

me back makes a lot of nostalgia Make

1:05:49

the IG post. Um Magic

1:05:51

has that like they have like the visual

1:05:53

rarity But they also have like how common

1:05:55

or uncommon a card is so like the

1:05:57

strength of the card is like mythic

1:05:59

rare, which is like, this is extremely hard

1:06:02

to get. It's a beast. Like anytime you

1:06:04

see somebody play one of these, it's like

1:06:06

you're probably pretty screwed. And there's rare, uncommon,

1:06:08

common. It's very, it's very

1:06:10

nerdy in advance, but I enjoy it quite a bit. Okay,

1:06:13

thanks for that trip down memory lane.

1:06:15

Okay, enjoy the ride says GC pal,

1:06:18

you've got to get over this heartbreak man come

1:06:20

back to the tri state area ASAP. That's where

1:06:22

all the fish are. Let me know if you

1:06:24

need some help, bud, the Rizzler. So the Rizzler

1:06:26

is is saying he needs you back here. This

1:06:29

guy tweeted this at me as well. Hmm.

1:06:31

Yeah, we'll be back soon, man.

1:06:33

We'll be back soon. He tweeted

1:06:36

that exact thing at me. This word

1:06:38

for word. Word for word. He

1:06:40

just copied and pasted it under this. He sounds like

1:06:43

he's a real big fan of yours and wants you

1:06:45

here. I'd be scared a little bit like maybe he

1:06:47

wants you back too much. But

1:06:49

yeah, we're back soon. The Rizzler says that.

1:06:51

Okay, Matt Smitty WWE Raw was amazing this

1:06:54

Monday. Any thoughts if you were watching debut

1:06:56

of Wyatt six in the ring? I'm

1:06:58

not even gonna read the rest of this because like it

1:07:00

would be a waste of time. I did not watch I'm assuming

1:07:02

you did not watch. We very rarely check

1:07:04

in on this like we rely on Hell wanting quite

1:07:06

a bit and he's kind of like been out of

1:07:09

commission. Yeah, unfortunately, I'm still at

1:07:12

the I'm still at the you're

1:07:15

getting me for mania. You get a

1:07:17

royal rumble beyond that it's few and

1:07:19

far between. Two quick ones daily

1:07:21

tap outs. Two quick ones for you boys just

1:07:23

want your thoughts on these matchups Ferguson versus Nick

1:07:25

Diaz is a retirement fight for both. That's what

1:07:27

it should have been on this card. That's what

1:07:29

it should have been on this card. That's fine.

1:07:31

I don't hate it. I would also just like

1:07:34

be okay. If Tony didn't fight in the UFC

1:07:36

again, I'd be cool if Nick Diaz didn't put

1:07:38

in UFC again. I mean, we saw him was

1:07:40

over almost three years ago at this point. And

1:07:42

it was not great. Corey Sanjaguar versus Figgy.

1:07:44

This is a great way for Figgy to enter real

1:07:46

title contention and a stylistic matchup. That'd be so fun

1:07:48

to watch. I'm totally down with that. I

1:07:51

mean, I feel like he's already in real title contention, but I'm also

1:07:53

not gonna agree to that fight. That would be a great one. Gc

1:07:56

is the MMA meme God in New York Rick has the best

1:07:59

takes in the game. Thank you boys for always keeping the show

1:08:01

entertaining in the absence of the great age. Thank you, Daily Tapouts.

1:08:04

Appreciate those kind words. Oh, that was it. That was nice. That was

1:08:06

very nice. Mikey T. Hello, GC,

1:08:08

Rick and Frank. Have you guys been paying attention to

1:08:11

the Olympics and what are your favorite storylines or favorite

1:08:13

competitions you've seen? Thank you all. Okay. So what's like

1:08:15

they're wrapping up what's been the highlight of the Olympics

1:08:17

so far? Oh my goodness.

1:08:19

The air pistols. Man. Yeah,

1:08:21

the air pistols have gone pretty viral. Those, those

1:08:23

created some great names. The metal.

1:08:27

Dude, that was such a good moment. Yeah. With

1:08:29

the, the two Italian gymnasts, like we're biting the

1:08:31

metal and then the Chinese gymnast who looked to

1:08:33

be, I don't know, that girl was like 14

1:08:35

or 15. And she

1:08:37

looks around for this. And like, and like started

1:08:40

biting the metal as well. That's

1:08:42

been great. Djokovic finally getting his gold medal. Shout

1:08:44

out to the GO conversations over. He's the greatest

1:08:46

tennis player of all time. Obviously

1:08:48

like the, the Noah Lyles was

1:08:50

great. The swimming rivalry between Australia and USA and

1:08:53

coming down to the final race on who was

1:08:55

going to have the most gold medals was fantastic.

1:08:58

Simone Biles continues her goat reign. Man,

1:09:01

I really got into USA volleyball. They just

1:09:03

lost and now they're going to play for

1:09:05

the bronze medal match. But like the indoor

1:09:07

men's volleyball, like these guys are all like

1:09:09

six, eight to six 10 and have like

1:09:11

40 inch verticals and like spike the shit

1:09:13

out of this ball. I think one of

1:09:15

the spike speeds was like 115 kilometers an

1:09:17

hour today. Yeah. I

1:09:19

mean, whatever is next, I just hop on

1:09:21

the gambling app and just, and just bet

1:09:23

on it. Are you the men's and men's

1:09:26

and women's surfing gold medal matches? Like our Olympics

1:09:28

on in the background right now for you. Like,

1:09:30

are you just TV on Olympics? Yes.

1:09:33

When we came on, I was not getting,

1:09:35

I was literally walking the internet. Foes earlier.

1:09:38

It was because something happened. Yeah. Denmark handball

1:09:40

held on by the way, going to the

1:09:42

semis, holding a plus 200 future on them.

1:09:44

Let's go. I love that. How's the betting

1:09:46

been? Like where are we at? Like, oh,

1:09:49

okay. Yeah.

1:09:51

So I like, I took all my futures, which I

1:09:53

had planned on doing, and then I just threw $25

1:09:55

into my account and saw how much I could build

1:09:57

it up. We're at 288 right now. One

1:10:00

pending. Yeah, we've been killing it, man. Just

1:10:02

throwing a lot of... I've just been... Any

1:10:05

sport that they have had, I'm just like,

1:10:07

let's look at the line and bet on it. And I'm just

1:10:10

blindly throwing darts at this thing. I

1:10:12

love that. Yeah, 10X-ing it. That's impressive.

1:10:16

Sometimes you got to go against the USA. It

1:10:18

hurts, but... Oh, come on. How could you? I

1:10:21

did a China-USA exact in the 4x100

1:10:24

men's swimming medley. Paid out at like

1:10:26

plus 325. It was great. And

1:10:28

then the race was so exciting. Sometimes my parents

1:10:30

are like, you're a little too into this. I'm

1:10:32

like, yeah, we got $50,000. Olympic

1:10:34

fever. That's a bad boy. My

1:10:37

favorite thing has been Paris

1:10:40

Tonight by the CBC. It's just

1:10:42

such a tremendous program. It

1:10:44

actually is good, man. I didn't know what we

1:10:47

were getting. I really thought it was going to

1:10:49

be how Juan is sitting at a desk, just

1:10:51

like, welcome into Paris Tonight on the CBC. We

1:10:53

start at the pool where Canada's

1:10:55

Summer McIntosh got a silver medal moving

1:10:58

to the wrestling. I thought it was

1:11:00

going to be that. It's much more

1:11:02

lighthearted. It's fun. Everything is

1:11:04

like... It's almost like he's just... It's

1:11:06

like a fun show that's Canadian-centric and

1:11:08

they talk about it and they interview

1:11:10

Olympic athletes. He went to Moulin Rouge.

1:11:12

He went into all these little houses.

1:11:15

Yeah, it's good. I

1:11:17

was doing a suck-up gimmick, but it actually

1:11:19

is a good show. My dad's

1:11:22

number one fan of that too. He's number one fan

1:11:24

of this show and he's number one fan of Paris

1:11:26

Tonight. Yeah, he's talking about how he

1:11:28

got outfitted with Lou Lemon. I really thought it

1:11:30

was going to be stiff.

1:11:33

CBC also, he was like, oh yeah,

1:11:35

CBC is the PBS of Canada. I

1:11:37

really thought it was going to be

1:11:42

welcome in. I'm Ariel Hawane. We start

1:11:44

tonight from the track. You're

1:11:47

in for a treat when you see the skit

1:11:49

and the dancing later. I think you're

1:11:51

going to enjoy it. I can't wait. Yeah. Do

1:11:54

we address the elephant in the room? Canada

1:11:56

basketball getting bounced yesterday to France? So

1:12:01

we're not gonna talk about it. Yeah, I wasn't

1:12:03

gonna say anything. I've been blowing

1:12:05

up the phone all the way until like halfway

1:12:07

through the first quarter. Yeah. Yeah,

1:12:09

now, you know, he had the family coming out and they

1:12:12

were gonna get to go to the bronze medal match. And

1:12:14

then, you know, if they had gotten to the semis, then

1:12:16

there was a chance I'd get to see Canada play for

1:12:18

a medal, but I mean, it's probably

1:12:20

gonna be like Serbia versus Germany or something like that.

1:12:22

I'm gonna follow his lead on this one. We're gonna

1:12:24

stay away from that cause

1:12:27

that might be a touchy subject. He said game

1:12:29

seven, next level nervousness

1:12:32

for Canada France. He also

1:12:34

was there and said the crowd, he

1:12:37

said it was 10 times game

1:12:39

five against the Pacers, MSG, like he was

1:12:42

saying that the place was rocking to an

1:12:44

extent that he's never even like experienced before

1:12:47

because of it being in France. By the

1:12:49

way, I love that. The fact that like

1:12:51

the Parisians, I mean, that's another one, Leon

1:12:53

Marchand, the French swimmer and like the way

1:12:55

that that crowd gets so hyped for him.

1:12:58

I don't know if you saw yesterday, he showed up

1:13:00

at the team USA basketball game and like the whole

1:13:02

crowd went crazy and LeBron thought that they were sharing.

1:13:04

They were sharing for us. Yeah. He

1:13:06

was like, yeah, thanks guys. It's like, no, man, we're

1:13:08

cheering on our guy. And like, dude, when he would

1:13:11

do the, I think it's the breaststroke where you like

1:13:13

go down and then you do it and then you

1:13:15

pop right back down. Like you almost look like a

1:13:17

groundhog going up and down, but each time he would

1:13:20

come up, like the crowd would just like chant for

1:13:22

him so they could hear him.

1:13:24

Yeah, it was, it was terrific. You

1:13:26

say women's soccer playing for the gold. I mean,

1:13:28

I just love the Olympics. The Olympics are great.

1:13:30

Three weeks, bet as much as you can, watch

1:13:32

as much bullshit that you would never, ever watch

1:13:34

in your life. And then they're gone.

1:13:36

And then we don't see them for another four years. I

1:13:38

love it, but not to the extent that you love it.

1:13:40

You're, you're a different level of hardcore. Like I love it

1:13:43

a lot. Like I, I watch it, but I'm not up

1:13:45

to where you're at, but I can appreciate where you're at.

1:13:47

I respect where you're at. Let's deposit a

1:13:49

little something, something in the DK account and then we

1:13:51

can get you on board, man. I

1:13:54

don't know if that would really do it for me if I'm being honest,

1:13:56

but I will say, here's a,

1:13:58

here's an MMA related tie-in for this. Do

1:14:01

you think when it comes to the US, the

1:14:04

level of support will be equivalent to

1:14:06

what we're seeing internationally? Comparison,

1:14:08

when we talk about fights in the US,

1:14:11

the US fighters don't get nearly that level

1:14:13

of support that you see when Cyril Gane

1:14:15

is fighting in France or something like just

1:14:17

to draw the French to French comparison. Do

1:14:20

you think when it comes to the US, Team

1:14:22

USA men's, the swimmers is just going to be

1:14:24

like, it's going to be rockets?

1:14:28

Yes, because you are

1:14:30

the US. Like the Sean Trewton

1:14:32

fights, when Michael Chandler fights, these are

1:14:34

their own entity. Yes,

1:14:36

I understand that they bring out the Stars

1:14:39

and Stripes and they say that they represent

1:14:41

the USA and that's amazing and everything like

1:14:43

that. But like in the Olympics, like you

1:14:45

are the United States. It's

1:14:47

Team US. It's the

1:14:49

team. Everyone is a part of Team USA.

1:14:52

Like if you're wearing a jersey, whatever you

1:14:54

have to wear for your event, it's going

1:14:56

to say United States of America on it.

1:15:00

You get behind those guys and it doesn't hurt that

1:15:02

the US is so sick at the summer

1:15:04

games. We're close with

1:15:06

China in the gold medal count. I think we're

1:15:08

going to start blowing them away with the track

1:15:10

and everything. But then

1:15:12

like the total medal count, we are just

1:15:14

smoking. Everyone. We are

1:15:16

just always on the podium. Ivan

1:15:20

S or Ivan, unsure

1:15:22

what the pronunciation for this one, top five fast

1:15:24

food restaurants and opinions on what a burger. So

1:15:26

we got into a burger call before, but what

1:15:28

are the top five fast foods? This

1:15:31

is great. We're doing a pound for pound

1:15:33

rankings of fast food restaurants. Where's

1:15:36

the line on fast food? You

1:15:39

suggest one and I'll tell you if it's over or not.

1:15:42

Like Chili's is not fast food. No,

1:15:44

no, no. That's chain restaurant. That's chain

1:15:46

restaurant. Yeah.

1:15:48

Like Chick-fil-A is fast food. Fast food

1:15:50

is pick up and sit down on

1:15:53

an unassigned table. No, like you're okay.

1:15:55

Okay. Okay. There's

1:15:57

no, there's no hostess. No, no hostess. No, no,

1:15:59

no. No reservations. No

1:16:02

reservations, no hostess, and there has to be

1:16:05

a drive-through. Is that our three criteria? No,

1:16:07

because subway could be fast food and

1:16:09

that's not drive-through. Okay, all right. So

1:16:12

no drive-through requirement. I mean,

1:16:14

preferred. Drive-through preferred. Yeah, drive-through preferred.

1:16:16

I'm simple, I really like Taco

1:16:19

Bell when I would eat a lot of

1:16:21

dog shit, but I don't eat fast food

1:16:23

these days, but my

1:16:25

simplest preferred thing was Taco Bell, for sure.

1:16:28

Chick-fil-A is one for me. Yeah,

1:16:30

that's a higher level choice. Chick-fil-A. Chick-fil-A

1:16:32

is an absolutely one. Love Chick-fil-A. Raising

1:16:34

canes is great, but because I already

1:16:36

have a chicken, I'm

1:16:38

gonna take Chick-fil-A over everything. Zaxby's Raising Canes.

1:16:41

Raising canes has really come on lately,

1:16:43

huh? They got the one at Penn

1:16:45

Station now in New York. And that

1:16:47

is something I've had for

1:16:49

the last two decades of my life and it was

1:16:51

always just kind of a chicken place that was pretty

1:16:53

good. Now I can't go on the internet without seeing

1:16:55

people gas it up to the

1:16:58

highest level. I have

1:17:00

such a nostalgia for Taco Bell because I used

1:17:02

to go with my dad and they had the

1:17:04

Godzilla cups and they had the chocolate

1:17:06

taco. We had 2,000 Godzilla cups. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1:17:09

yeah. And they had their chocolate. Yes, that one,

1:17:11

Jon Renau. They had the freaking chocolate

1:17:13

taco. The

1:17:18

cinnamon twirls. They

1:17:20

were basically just like styrofoam with cinnamon

1:17:22

sugar on them. And then

1:17:24

you could play the coin machine. Yes. Where

1:17:27

you drop the coin and then you try

1:17:29

to get it over. Yes, exactly.

1:17:31

I've won that one before. I've gotten

1:17:33

free chocolate tacos out of there. I love that.

1:17:35

Wait, what's the chocolate taco? Seriously,

1:17:37

you're kidding, right? Yeah, it's the

1:17:40

ice cream taco. But they would have it at Taco Bell?

1:17:42

They sold those at Taco Bell. I actually didn't know that.

1:17:44

Oh, wow, you guys didn't live through that era. We had

1:17:46

churros in the last car. No, no,

1:17:48

I had chocolate tacos. No, at Taco Bell.

1:17:50

They had them at Taco Bell as dessert.

1:17:53

No, no, it was just the branded chocolate

1:17:55

taco. Didn't know they did that. I

1:17:57

don't know if you guys were this deep on Taco Bell. I was a

1:17:59

huge camera. I'm a normal apple and banana guy. Oh yeah, big time. It

1:18:01

was basically just an apple pie, but I mean, it was just so fire.

1:18:04

Was there Chaloopa slander on this show? I

1:18:06

cannot remember. I'm not a Chaloopa guy. I'm

1:18:08

a Gordita over Chaloopa. Gordita over Chaloopa. I

1:18:11

love Chaloobas. Was that a Texas

1:18:13

thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like the Frito-Brito. No, no, no, I had the

1:18:15

Frito-Brito. Taco Bell's up

1:18:17

there for me. I like Taco Bell.

1:18:20

Well, actually I love Taco Bell. How

1:18:22

do we feel about the biggest ones,

1:18:25

right? I'm not a huge McDonald's, Wendy's,

1:18:29

Burger King guy. They feel

1:18:31

like the tier below the top five for

1:18:33

me. They're consistent. They are what they are,

1:18:35

but there's better ones that I have above.

1:18:38

Okay, so I never eat fast food ever

1:18:40

anymore. Me too, same. In

1:18:43

my 30s, but I love them all.

1:18:46

Wait, wait, wait, time out. Backtrack. When you

1:18:48

say I'm in my 30s, it's because the

1:18:50

recovery from eating junk like that is too

1:18:52

tough or because you feel like it's for

1:18:54

younger people to be consuming. What is the-

1:18:57

As I have aged, I am just more focused

1:18:59

on my health. Okay. And I

1:19:01

just do not want to ingest. Got

1:19:04

it. I think that makes sense. Back

1:19:06

in high school, I don't know

1:19:09

what y'all called them, McStupid, whatever

1:19:11

you may have called it. For some I heard about those,

1:19:13

some of you actually. Oh

1:19:15

man, it was something special. You would go and you'd

1:19:17

get, this is when they had the dollar menu, 99

1:19:19

cents a piece. You'd get a McDouble, you'd get a

1:19:21

McChicken, and then you would split the McDouble, put the

1:19:23

McChicken in the middle, bread and all, close it back

1:19:26

up on the top. And it's like something you couldn't,

1:19:28

it was like you don't want to stare into the

1:19:30

eye of the beast once you started. You didn't want

1:19:32

to look directly at it, but it was just, it

1:19:34

was so good. And you get a 99 cents small

1:19:36

fry with a cup of water, throw some blue powder

1:19:38

right in there, don't let the cashier see it. And

1:19:40

you're spending like after tax, like 3.08 or

1:19:43

something, and you're getting a full meal out

1:19:45

of it. And I used to just house

1:19:47

those. I love them. Now I

1:19:49

don't know if I could even get

1:19:51

through McStupid. I love the McStupid.

1:19:54

I love the name of that. I get

1:19:57

my kids McDonald's and things like that from time to time.

1:20:00

You'd be shocked to know what the price of that

1:20:02

thing that you just said was $3 at that

1:20:04

time is. I don't wanna know. I don't wanna know,

1:20:06

man. It's insane. It's truly insane the price of this

1:20:09

stuff. It was a real 99 cent. The

1:20:12

dollar, it was like a real thing. Nothing on

1:20:14

that menu is less than $2 at this point.

1:20:17

And then if you really wanted to get crazy, you

1:20:19

could get the McRoyal and it was a Big Mac

1:20:21

instead of a McDouble and you'd split it up and

1:20:23

then you'd put there like, they used to call it

1:20:25

because like the McChicken was like the questionable meat straight

1:20:27

out of the freezer. Like it was definitely a lower

1:20:29

quality. And then they had like the Southern style fried

1:20:31

chicken sandwich, you'd throw one of those in there. That

1:20:34

was the cost of like six or $7. Oh

1:20:37

man, good find. I feel like it's hard to do this top

1:20:39

five, especially cause we don't really eat it now. I have a

1:20:41

more, a tangentially

1:20:44

related question, etiquette question.

1:20:48

I am a big believer. If you pick up

1:20:50

the hamburger, it does not go

1:20:52

back down. The hamburger stays in the

1:20:54

hand, you finish the

1:20:56

hamburger and then that's it. There

1:20:58

is no up down on the

1:21:00

hamburger. Do you agree with the

1:21:03

sentiment? I can actually respect the hell out

1:21:05

of that. Yeah, I mean, I'm a reasoning.

1:21:08

I go in when I eat, man, I am

1:21:10

eating until I am done. I'm not a big

1:21:12

talker when I'm eating. Yeah, I can actually, I

1:21:14

can respect this. What's the reasoning? Cause I just,

1:21:17

I don't need to put it down, Frankie. I

1:21:19

don't need to deconstruct the burger by putting it

1:21:21

down. I'm also, for context, I'm also a big,

1:21:24

if I have like a plate, right? And there's

1:21:26

10 things on the plate. I

1:21:29

tend to eat them one by one

1:21:31

as opposed to like mixing and matching

1:21:33

and like eating things at various points.

1:21:36

So it's more a compartmentalization and like

1:21:38

an organization thing. But I'm like, I

1:21:40

believe that you create mess and disorder

1:21:42

and chaos and disarray when you put

1:21:44

the hamburger down, now you're dipping the

1:21:47

fries here, that, the other. Take it

1:21:49

slow, but eat with purpose

1:21:51

and do it one at a time.

1:21:54

That's my philosophy. How

1:21:56

do you feel, Frank? Did you ever dip your hamburger

1:21:59

in the ketchup? Oh yeah, you could do

1:22:01

that, but you cannot put it down. You cannot put

1:22:03

it back on the paper, on the wax, nasty paper.

1:22:05

You bite, you can dip it,

1:22:07

you bite it again, you finish that hamburger before.

1:22:09

What if it's like a quarter pounder? You

1:22:11

better finish that thing. We're talking

1:22:14

McDonald's burgers? Any burger. Any,

1:22:16

like so like. No, okay, sorry. If this is like

1:22:18

a big time, like real fancy restaurant burger, I might

1:22:20

put it down. Agree, any

1:22:23

fast food burger, restaurant, diner burger, restaurant,

1:22:25

diner burger, of course you can put

1:22:27

it down because that thing weighs six

1:22:29

pounds and you, and like it's falling

1:22:31

apart and all those things. Not the

1:22:34

same. I'm talking fast food, self-contained, diner

1:22:36

burger, restaurant burger, different rules, different rules.

1:22:39

It's a little neurotic. Yeah, I mean it

1:22:41

is what it is. Joe just

1:22:43

sent this in the comms chat. Taco

1:22:45

Bell receipt from 1999. A

1:22:48

burrito was 99 cents. He keeps it in the wallet. Taco

1:22:50

was 69 cents, nachos was 69 cents, and

1:22:53

a 16 ounce Pepsi was 89 cents, totaling

1:22:55

$3.50. Dude,

1:22:58

I saw a Chipotle menu from 2008 and

1:23:01

it disgusted me. Can't even get it.

1:23:03

What are we talking about? Give me a number. A

1:23:06

burrito was like $5. Oh

1:23:08

my lord. Yeah, Chipotle is like

1:23:10

$20 now. We're cooked. We

1:23:12

are cooked. We as Americans are getting gouged

1:23:15

on food both

1:23:17

at the supermarket and at the

1:23:20

restaurant. Like there's just no winning. Food is

1:23:22

insane. When did beers just become like $10?

1:23:25

Yeah. $10 for a beer now.

1:23:27

Jesus. It is crazy,

1:23:29

man. It's crazy. Speed

1:23:32

rankings, Chick-fil-A,

1:23:36

Taco Bell. Sonic?

1:23:43

Yeah, yeah. Sonic, maybe. Sonic, what a

1:23:45

burger. I do love a good Hardee's. That's

1:23:47

just really, I don't

1:23:49

need Popeyes is good. Raising Canes is good.

1:23:51

KFC and Popeyes are interesting for me because

1:23:55

I like them, but then I like, I don't

1:23:57

know, there's so much better chicken out there. Like

1:23:59

a Chick-fil-A is just crushed. So it's kind of

1:24:01

hard to find the way that people don't believe

1:24:03

that. Okay. Here's our last thing. Salad and go.

1:24:06

That's good. It's a big one. Very,

1:24:08

very curious to hear y'all's rankings on this. Firehouse

1:24:10

subs, which I love, by the way. Arby's. Your

1:24:12

thoughts on Arby's? Not

1:24:15

a fan. Not anymore. Not

1:24:17

a fan. My dad's a big fan. My

1:24:20

dad loves Arby's. Shout out to Arby's. I

1:24:22

knew your dad was a good guy. I

1:24:24

knew your dad was a good guy. I'm

1:24:26

not an Arby's stan, but because people hate

1:24:28

it so much, it makes me have to

1:24:30

defend it. I just always hated the prices.

1:24:33

And a Jamoka shake and some curly fries. Dude,

1:24:35

it's not bad. It's actually pretty good. It's funny.

1:24:37

Oh, God answer. What a shake. Yeah. Yeah. Never

1:24:39

heard of that. Oh, it's like a, oh, it's

1:24:41

like a chocolate coffee shake. It

1:24:44

might be one of the best fast food items

1:24:46

out there. I also have

1:24:48

noticed. You get a horseradish sauce. I've

1:24:51

also noticed the anti Arby's sentiment. I don't know what

1:24:53

that comes from. I never noticed. Why are they like,

1:24:55

why are they just hate it? I don't hate Arby's.

1:24:59

It's just not in my mind. It's because

1:25:01

they roast beef. Got it. Like

1:25:05

you're not going the subway and getting bullshit meat there

1:25:07

too. Like it's like, come on, man. Yeah. It's

1:25:10

all fast food. You get the onion

1:25:12

bun, get it toasted a little beef and

1:25:14

cheddar, curly fries on the side, horseradish sauce,

1:25:16

the dip, Jamoka shake to wash it down.

1:25:18

I might go do that. I didn't know

1:25:20

that Arby's lore went to Steve. Just to

1:25:23

spite the haters. Shout out to Arby's. If

1:25:25

you're interested in more takes like this and

1:25:27

promotion of Arby's fine products. You

1:25:29

have a May hour. I'm straight, man. I'm

1:25:31

Arby's isn't even cracking my top five. I just have to

1:25:33

defend it because of how much slang. I get that. I

1:25:36

get that. Jack in the box. Me

1:25:38

and your pops can have to go cross, crush a

1:25:40

beef and cheddar one. There's, there's an Arby's right by

1:25:42

my apartment in Queens. You and my

1:25:44

dad just hustle out there. Get a, get an

1:25:47

Arby's. Okay. Parker Turk,

1:25:49

the freaking boys. Exclamation point.

1:25:51

Do you think the UFC would be successful if they launched

1:25:53

a yearly subscription service, say $400 a year and

1:25:55

you get access to every pay per view right now, $80, 85 F. after

1:26:00

tax is steep, thanks. So what about the idea

1:26:02

of like a subscription model where you can just

1:26:04

buy the whole thing for the year? Yeah, yeah,

1:26:07

yeah, yeah, for 400 bucks, like you're essentially getting

1:26:09

half off of you just by the entire year.

1:26:11

Kind of like a Sunday ticket type thing. Totally.

1:26:14

I would do that. So here's my thought. You

1:26:16

may end up with that outcome and it actually

1:26:18

might cost you less. And here's how. If

1:26:22

Netflix purchase, acquires

1:26:24

the UFC rights, right? There's

1:26:27

potentially a model where they do pay-per-views, right? You

1:26:29

just order it through Netflix. There's potentially a model

1:26:32

where they eat the cost of that, but because

1:26:34

of the subscriber growth, right? It's going to depend

1:26:36

on what their goals are at the time, but

1:26:38

because of the subscriber growth that they're getting from

1:26:40

live sports, they may say,

1:26:42

this comes with your subscription package. I

1:26:44

believe WWE is that way. I

1:26:47

believe WWE is now just part of

1:26:49

Netflix, right? When that deal kicks in.

1:26:51

So there's going to be like a

1:26:53

Netflix, like live sports sector, or you're

1:26:55

just getting WWE by paying the monthly.

1:26:57

Well, they're in the WWE business. They're

1:27:00

going to be streaming Jake Paul and Mike Tyson,

1:27:02

which you do not, right? That is not a

1:27:04

pay-per-view. That is going to be on Netflix. It

1:27:07

stands to reason with

1:27:09

them interested in live sports, if

1:27:12

the UFC comes up and

1:27:14

is available option that they can acquire

1:27:16

the rights to. And if they did,

1:27:19

it would stand to reason that there is a

1:27:22

model that they could have where the subscriber acquisition

1:27:24

and the number of people that are watching this

1:27:26

live might be worth

1:27:28

their while to not have pay-per-views, right?

1:27:31

It's not a guarantee. So you're saying, I mean, there's

1:27:34

obviously a price tag on that. The UFC knows

1:27:36

how much money they make off of pay-per-views a

1:27:38

year. You're essentially saying Netflix just ponies that up

1:27:41

in advance and it's just like- Absorb the cost

1:27:43

of that, yeah. Yeah, we'll

1:27:45

pay off the pay-per-views and

1:27:47

yeah, I mean,

1:27:49

it would make it so much more accessible. If all

1:27:52

you needed was a Netflix subscription, it's good for Netflix,

1:27:54

it's good for the UFC. You're getting more eyes on

1:27:56

it. I mean, that would be

1:27:58

amazing. It really depends on the goals. of the companies at

1:28:00

the time that this potential deal would happen,

1:28:02

right? And again, this is me speculating on the

1:28:04

idea that Netflix would even be interested just based

1:28:06

on the fact that they are getting the WWE

1:28:08

rights. If that relationship goes well, IMG,

1:28:11

WME is right there, same

1:28:14

ownership group. And the

1:28:16

fact that they're doing the Tyson Paul boxing, right,

1:28:19

there seems to be a momentum toward the idea.

1:28:21

Like if UFC comes up, you'd be

1:28:23

silly not to want to be in that

1:28:25

bid, right? And especially as you're getting into

1:28:27

live sports. And so there's a world where they just

1:28:29

continue to say model, right? You still run pay-per-view, but you get

1:28:31

it through Netflix the same way

1:28:33

ESPN does, right? ESPN still has a pay-per-view,

1:28:35

but you get through ESPN plus. Now you

1:28:38

mentioned eating the cost of the pay-per-view. The

1:28:41

ESPN does guarantee them a

1:28:43

number of pay-per-view buys as if they sold

1:28:45

at X level. And so that is currently

1:28:47

the system. Above and beyond

1:28:49

that is where the UFC and ESPN profit

1:28:51

into larger sums and split that. But there

1:28:54

is a minimum. There is a minimum that

1:28:56

is established now. If you're a Netflix, you

1:28:58

could say, the minimum's up here. We acquire

1:29:01

it. We're willing to pay

1:29:03

that price upfront. But the number of subscribers

1:29:05

we're going to get, the attention for our

1:29:07

product that we're gonna get, the live viewers

1:29:09

that we're gonna continue to get might be

1:29:11

worth it from an advertising and content perspective

1:29:13

that we don't need to make it a pay-per-view. We don't need to

1:29:15

go above and beyond that number. And so I

1:29:18

think these things are all in play. I think

1:29:20

there's a lot of opportunities. They could also go,

1:29:22

they could, the UFC could also land somewhere else

1:29:24

or even with ESPN where ESPN says, yes, we'll

1:29:26

do a package deal. If you wanna be a

1:29:28

UFC fan and you wanna purchase all the pay-per-views

1:29:30

for a year, I think that's on the

1:29:32

table. It's gonna get real interesting

1:29:34

because the live sports landscape is changing. I

1:29:38

believe it's pronounced venue. What do you make

1:29:40

of the V-E-N-U? How would you

1:29:42

pronounce that? That new amalgamation

1:29:44

of sports products that's coming out where

1:29:46

it's gonna be, oh, you weren't

1:29:48

aware of this one. I don't know what

1:29:50

this is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought you were asking me how

1:29:53

to pronounce venue there. V-E-N-U? Yeah,

1:29:55

so Fox? Venue sports.

1:29:57

ESPN. All

1:30:00

the digital sports properties are

1:30:03

teaming up to

1:30:05

make one live sports product that

1:30:07

you need to purchase that you get everything.

1:30:10

Oh, this is incredibly clutch. So like instead of

1:30:12

paying for like a full cable package and it's

1:30:14

just like, yeah, all I really watch is like

1:30:16

the live sports. You can buy sports. I don't

1:30:18

need news. I don't need all that shit. You

1:30:20

can just buy. This

1:30:23

is brilliant. And you don't

1:30:25

have to buy ESPN plus separate from

1:30:27

Fox, separate from all the other streaming

1:30:30

from CBS. You don't have to buy them

1:30:32

separately. If you are

1:30:34

a sports fan, you get that one package. And

1:30:37

so the industry and the landscape is changing. Like

1:30:39

there is going to be a lot of different

1:30:41

kinds of like options as these things are happening.

1:30:43

The NBA just renewed their right, not renewed their

1:30:45

rights. Just went to different rights

1:30:48

partners than they currently have. And so some

1:30:51

re-up right ESPN still with them, TNT,

1:30:53

Warner, Discovery, Out and Amazon in, there's

1:30:55

all kinds of different things that are

1:30:57

happening. And so I don't

1:30:59

think there's an impossibility that

1:31:02

you get this exact wish. I also don't

1:31:04

think there's an impossibility that you get something

1:31:06

even better from a cost perspective where Netflix

1:31:08

has UFC as part of your subscription and

1:31:11

other different variations of this. It's

1:31:13

gonna be interesting to see that. That

1:31:15

could really get crazy. It's a very interesting

1:31:18

time for live sports rights. It's a very

1:31:20

interesting time. What do you think?

1:31:23

One more? Two more? One more

1:31:25

works for me. Two more, two more. Sorry.

1:31:29

Frank playing us out. Frank, do we start over? With

1:31:31

the intro. Should we start over? I mean,

1:31:34

next time. Okay,

1:31:37

T3 asks, what's

1:31:39

up MMA, our crew? Question for the whole crew. As

1:31:41

someone who just graduated college and looking to work in

1:31:43

sports, what would be some career advice for searching for

1:31:45

a full-time position? We've kind of touched on this like

1:31:47

at various points. Build

1:31:50

your skills. Don't worry about applying for

1:31:52

XYZ job that's

1:31:55

on LinkedIn or wherever else you find it because

1:31:57

that's gonna be a crowded pool. There's gonna be

1:31:59

tons of people like you. you out there. Focus

1:32:01

on building up skills that you feel will translate.

1:32:04

If the jobs that you are seeking are

1:32:07

heavy into video editing, you better have your

1:32:09

ass on YouTube learning video editing, talking to

1:32:11

people and mentors and other people around you

1:32:13

that know that skill, build up that skill

1:32:15

set, be varied, learn the video editing, learn

1:32:17

the writing, learn the social media, learn all

1:32:19

the things that are going to help you

1:32:21

get ahead in that race. And then as

1:32:24

you're doing that, maybe create a website, a portfolio,

1:32:26

something that you can show people quickly. So that

1:32:29

will that will make you stand out from other

1:32:31

people that are applying resumes are old, right? Nobody

1:32:33

cares about resumes anymore. Like if I see a

1:32:35

resume, it's just a piece of paper with a

1:32:37

bunch of shit listed on it. It's not really

1:32:39

that fascinating to me. I don't hire based on

1:32:41

that stuff. I want to have a conversation with

1:32:43

somebody. And beyond that, you can write

1:32:45

on your resume that you know how to edit video.

1:32:47

If I don't see you edit video, then I don't

1:32:49

know that you can edit video. So show me something,

1:32:52

build your skill set, create a portfolio, create a website,

1:32:54

do something that you can show people your skills, and

1:32:56

then see where you get that that's my number one

1:32:58

tip 1000% I could I could not echo

1:33:01

that harder. And then I mean, you said

1:33:03

don't really worry about applying online to like

1:33:06

the LinkedIn ones. But like also apply

1:33:08

your ass off to different places, like it's

1:33:10

going to take a million different applications in

1:33:12

this industry. Before you finally land

1:33:14

something, don't get discouraged by nose, don't get

1:33:17

discouraged by people not responding like

1:33:19

just apply, apply, apply, apply. And then once you have

1:33:21

your foot in the door, make the most of it

1:33:23

make as many connections as possible. Because as

1:33:26

I have learned early on in my career, connections

1:33:29

can easily branch you into what

1:33:31

is next and lead you

1:33:34

to your next job. I think going

1:33:37

back off with like my sophomore junior year

1:33:39

of college, it has been

1:33:41

some sort of connection that has gotten me

1:33:43

every internship and job that I've had. Totally

1:33:46

networking works, reaching out to people works. If

1:33:48

somebody there's a lot of people who

1:33:50

are scared to like ask people for a favor or

1:33:52

ask people for their time because they feel like a

1:33:54

they're not accessible. Yeah, Frank, Frank is notorious for that.

1:33:56

They're not accessible, or they're gonna say no, or shut

1:33:58

you down or not have time. Let them tell you

1:34:00

that, right? If you reach out to somebody, like plenty

1:34:03

of people reach out to me and they're like, man,

1:34:05

I didn't think you'd reply. Let me

1:34:07

tell you that. If you don't think I'm gonna reply, take

1:34:09

the shot. And if I don't reply, you'll know I don't

1:34:12

have time to reply. If I do reply, now

1:34:14

you just made a connection that you didn't have previously. I just

1:34:16

want to clarify one thing. I wasn't saying like, don't

1:34:20

apply for jobs. You're right. It's a numbers game,

1:34:22

totally. What I was saying is go away from

1:34:24

the idea of there's this one job

1:34:26

on LinkedIn. It's the perfect job for me. If

1:34:28

they only knew how great I was, that

1:34:31

is a losing game. That is a losing game. There's

1:34:33

not one job. There is not one job. You are

1:34:35

just gonna have to apply and apply and apply until

1:34:37

you get hired and then go from there. Like it

1:34:39

is really all about just, just getting your foot in

1:34:41

the door. Show them what you can do though. That

1:34:43

is the way to get it. Cause

1:34:46

like you said, like going back to the connections thing, you

1:34:48

were like, yeah, a resume doesn't do much for me. It's

1:34:50

just a piece of paper with a bunch of shit on

1:34:52

it. Someone that can vouch for

1:34:54

you being like, this guy is sick at video

1:34:56

editing. I may say you can edit videos on

1:34:58

a resume, but someone being able to say that

1:35:00

and vouch for you is gonna go

1:35:03

a million times further than a great resume. Treat

1:35:05

getting that job like a job and you'll be

1:35:07

successful. Work hard at it. It's not, it's not.

1:35:09

That's some great advice. Just update the resume and

1:35:11

send it off. That's not how it gets done.

1:35:13

Getting a job is a job in itself for

1:35:15

sure. Frank, did you

1:35:17

have anything to add to that? You seem to want to jump in. Oh

1:35:20

no, you guys covered all of it. Oh good. Good

1:35:23

job. Jesse, last one. Jesse, what's

1:35:25

up boys? Non MMA related question

1:35:28

here, but wanted to get your guys' opinion on something. I'm

1:35:30

the best man in my childhood friend's wedding next month. Only

1:35:33

problem is, oh boy, I like drama. So this

1:35:35

is getting good. I am not

1:35:37

a fan of his fiance. Oh man. This

1:35:40

is getting good for me. I'm enjoying this. No problem, man,

1:35:42

yeah. Despite several years of

1:35:44

dating, he can't act like himself around here and he

1:35:46

doesn't seem to be able to leave the house without

1:35:48

her. So it feels as if I have lost my

1:35:50

lifelong best friend. Holy shit, this is so spicy. I

1:35:53

know it's too late to bring up these feelings toward

1:35:55

it. These feelings toward her, I'm

1:35:57

assuming, but I'm wondering if any of you

1:35:59

guys have. been in a similar situation and

1:36:01

how you coped with it. I'm dreading the

1:36:03

best man speech at his wedding because I'm

1:36:05

afraid it will sound disingenuous. But at the

1:36:07

end of the day, I truly just want

1:36:09

what's best for him. I'm afraid that it's

1:36:12

not her, love the show, boys, Jay. First of all,

1:36:14

I'm sorry for like grinning and smiling and enjoying this

1:36:16

too much, but I do love drama.

1:36:19

And so this is great for me. And

1:36:21

even though this is a very uncomfortable situation for you.

1:36:24

You're right when I was gonna be like, sounds like a

1:36:26

conversation that should have happened already. At least they're conscious of

1:36:28

that too. Even

1:36:30

that time has passed. He's dreading giving you a

1:36:33

speech. What do you do? What do you do

1:36:35

if you're Jesse? I

1:36:37

mean, you just give platitudes, you

1:36:39

just give BS. Like don't

1:36:41

make it, just make it so no one

1:36:43

remembers it. Like you don't completely bomb.

1:36:46

So people are like, that guy was fucking

1:36:48

terrible. But like, don't say anything

1:36:50

that people are gonna look back and be like, it was

1:36:52

kind of weird that he said that. Just

1:36:55

be supportive of your friend. You

1:36:57

don't have to go into like a, when

1:37:00

Jesse met Jesse. Yeah, don't fake it.

1:37:02

Don't fake it. Like this is a

1:37:04

job for chat GPT. I

1:37:07

would just roll up the sleeves, tell chat

1:37:10

GPT what's up and then let it figure

1:37:12

it out. This feels like you guys are

1:37:14

putting a band-aid on something, right? The conversation

1:37:16

around the best man speech is a symptom

1:37:20

of something that's much larger, which

1:37:22

is that. It's the more immediate concern though. No,

1:37:25

but see, that's a band-aid, right? Your immediate concern is

1:37:27

you have the cut, you put the band-aid on, but

1:37:29

like to stop the bleeding. But like, how do we

1:37:32

treat the wound, right? How do we treat the infection?

1:37:34

That's gotta come later. The problem here is

1:37:36

that he feels like he's lost

1:37:38

his best friend to somebody he does not

1:37:41

like. He lost his best friend to his

1:37:44

inability to have the communication about boundaries and

1:37:46

where he was feeling about the choice. Is

1:37:48

it too late? Can you have this?

1:37:50

I think now that it's wedding season is too late. So

1:37:52

you either have stain or like, hey, you're

1:37:55

the best man I am, but not for this. Yeah,

1:37:57

I guess that's true. Like you haven't brought up the...

1:38:00

once around the whole relationship, them getting engaged and

1:38:02

now about to get married, you haven't once been

1:38:04

like, hey man, are

1:38:06

we ever gonna hang out where she

1:38:09

doesn't come? Or like, hey man,

1:38:11

why do you act so different when she is

1:38:13

around? You don't act like you're successful. Those are

1:38:15

all you statements? I think you should say, I

1:38:17

feel this way when I ask

1:38:20

you to come out and she's always tagging along.

1:38:22

Or I feel this way whenever

1:38:25

you act this way. Two follow-ups to that. Don't

1:38:27

be confrontational. One is that, is

1:38:29

it too late or can that still be

1:38:31

done? You're saying wet, post-wedding is too late.

1:38:33

He's already dead. Question

1:38:36

two, question two, if you do that for

1:38:38

somebody who's maybe not in the situation where

1:38:40

it's too late, are you opening the potential

1:38:42

where they're like, well,