Today, Santiago & Josh interview Joe Rigney, Author of "Leadership & Emotional Sabotage," Fellow of Theology at New Saint Andrews College, and Associate Pastor at Christ Church. They talk history, politics, the dangers of unbridled passions, how mobs form, the dark side of empathy, how empathy is often selfish, roots of leadership, CS Lewis, Shakespeare, Caesar vs. Brutus, and how it all applies to our current political moment.#JoeRigney #NewSaintAndrews #Empathy #Leadership #EmotionalSabotage #Truth #Faith #Caesar #History #CultureDr. Rigney is an Associate Pastor at Christ Church in Moscow, Idaho and serves as Fellow of Theology at New Saint Andrews College. He is the author of seven books: Live Like a Narnian: Christian Discipleship in Lewis’s Chronicles (Eyes & Pen, 2013); The Things of Earth: Treasuring God by Enjoying His Gifts (Crossway, 2015); Lewis on the Christian Life: Becoming Truly Human in the Presence of God (Crossway, 2018); Strangely Bright: Can You Love God and Enjoy This World? (Crossway, 2020); More Than a Battle: Experiencing Victory, Freedom, and Healing from Lust (B&H, 2021), Courage: How the Gospel Creates Christian Fortitude (Crossway, 2023), and Leadership and Emotional Sabotage (Canon Press, 2024). Previously, Dr. Rigney served as a professor and president of Bethlehem College & Seminary in Minneapolis, a pastor at Cities Church in St. Paul, and a teacher at Desiring God. Joe lives in Moscow, Idaho with his wife Jenny and three sons.Learn more about Joe Rigney's work at:https://nsa.edu/contributors/joe-rigneyhttps://emotionalsabotage.com----------Follow New Founding across Social Media:Twitter – https://twitter.com/newfoundingorgYouTube – https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClCvCeAC7erMbc3zvuJN2_QWebsite – https://www.newfounding.comFind the Best People. Join our Talent Network:https://www.newfounding.com/talentFollow Us on Twitter:Santiago Pliego – https://twitter.com/santspliegoJoshua Clemans – https://twitter.com/joshuaclemansThe New Founding Podcast is recorded at the New Founding HQ in Dallas, Texas, produced by Santiago Pliego & Joshua Clemans, and edited by Jared Cummings.Subscribe to the "New Founding Podcast"Podbean – https://newfoundingpodcast.podbean.com/Apple Podcasts – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-new-founding-podcast/id1688229934Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/1lSzo1TIs7MpVlCrzqbpapGoogle Podcasts - https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkLnBvZGJlYW4uY29tL25ld2ZvdW5kaW5ncG9kY2FzdC9mZWVkLnhtbA?sa=X&ved=0CAMQ4aUDahcKEwiY8sLYno7_AhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQNQ