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I don't know if you guys do
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this in Maths class over there. Thank
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you, I appreciate that very much. I
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didn't want you to be confused.
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Thank you so much for tuning in to another episode
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of The New Stelumpian. My name is Mike Schuber. I'm
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the titular New Stelimpian. I'm a 32-year-old man who never
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read the Percy Jackson books as a kid. I read
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them as an adult because I was determining if it was
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a book series that society has been sleeping on. I said
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yes, and now I'm seeing if society has also been sleeping
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on the heroes of Olympus books, which would be uncomfortable. Those
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books are very long. But... We are here for another
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episode to continue our coverage. And I am not on
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this journey alone. I'm joined by a very special guest,
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someone who has been a long time coming on this
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podcast. I'm very excited to have them on. You might
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know them from the work that we've done together on,
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or her work that we've done together on, or her
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incredible voice overwork, in wonderful podcasts, such as Wooden
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Overcoats, or the new sensation sweeping the internet nations
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Tiny Angry Witch. It's Beth Here Beth Here Beth
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Here Beth here Beth here, Beth here, Beth, Beth,
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Beth, Beth, Beth, Beth, Beth, Beth, Beth, Beth, Beth,
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Beth, Beth, Beth, Beth, Beth, Beth, Beth, Beth, Beth, Beth,
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Beth, Beth, Beth, Beth, Beth, Beth, Beth, Beth, Beth, Beth, Beth,
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Beth, Beth, Beth, Beth, Beth, Beth, Beth, Beth, Beth, Beth,
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Beth, Beth, I'm so stoked as well.
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I wanted to have you on that
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ever since I did the TNO show
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in London when I didn't even know
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that you were reading the books and
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then you were in attendance and it
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was a lovely fun time and we
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had a good time at the show
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and good time hanging afterwards and then
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hanging out the next day and then
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hanging afterwards and I'm glad that we
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can hang out the show and then
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hanging afterwards and then hanging out the
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next day and I'm glad that we
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can finally. So I never read the Percy
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Jackson books as a kid, imagine that. I
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was really into fantasy, I read a lot
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of Tolkien books, a lot of Lord of
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Rings type stuff, and Philip Pullman books, but
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I completely missed these, I think, partly going...
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to University at the wrong time, but
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they were on my radar. I was
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really aware of them. And then through
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meeting you, I was like, brilliant, I
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have an excuse to actually read these
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for the first time. So I started
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reading the first series last year, maybe
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the year before, not sure anymore, but
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it feels a bit like last year,
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maybe last year, maybe it was the
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before, and I had such a great
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time listening to TNO. Then I thought
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I'm going to commit to reading these
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books for the rest of time. when
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we started working together on 20 to
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midnight the D&D stream that we do,
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that you started listening to T&O and
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I started listening to Winover Coast and
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I was like, oh my gosh, this
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is great. So, I'm very excited to
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cover these. There's some chunky chapters, so
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I think we should just get right
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into these two Percy chapters. Chapter 13
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is called Percy, and we will, of
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course, re-title it by the end for
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a new fun name, but where we
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last left our heroes, Frank Zhang just
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got claimed by Mars as his son,
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which is wild and dramatic and does
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not make Percy happy. Are you not
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happy about that? I thought it was
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very fun. I thought it was very
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fun. I did not see it coming.
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Did you see it coming? I did
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see it coming. It was funny because
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it started as just like a process
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of elimination type guess of just like,
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well, he needs to have a god
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as a dad. And there's only a
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certain few that can work and there's
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only a certain few that we actually
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haven't really seen a child of. So
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I kind of saw it coming, but
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not necessarily in that way. And I'm
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very excited about. how it's going to
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develop. It's very exciting. Now before we
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get into anything, I did just write
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in my notes in all caps before,
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I guess sometime in between doing the
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last episode recording and then doing this
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episode. I just wrote my notes in
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all caps. Rayna is going to end
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up with Leo in all caps. And
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it's going to end up with Leo
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in all caps. Rayna is going to
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end up with, and Leo is going
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to end up with. It could be
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fun if he ends up with Rina.
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It might be weird because we don't
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know what's going on with Rina and
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Jason, racing, but clearly there's something going
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on there. I don't know if Leo's
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was gonna feel weird about dating Jason's
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question mark X, question mark question mark,
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question mark, question mark, question mark, question
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mark, but if I had to just
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make a wild bold out of nowhere
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prediction, I'm just going to throw that's
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exciting. Okay, okay, let's see. Now, this
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chapter begins with quote, Percy slept like
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a Medusa victim, which is to say,
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like a rock. And I got to
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live in a world where Rick just
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wrote the first thing, and then some
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editor was like, you should probably explain
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the joke. Because it just feels like
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that second part of the sentence is
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not necessary. Obviously, maybe because it's a
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kid's book, they're like, you have to
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clarify. But I don't know. This just
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feels like someone telling him, you got
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to add this. You got to add
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this. So it is the first time
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that Percy has slept in a safe
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and comfortable bed, since he cannot remember.
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And of course, Percy had dreams, but
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they were all blurs, which is very
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convenient for us, for the plot, so
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that Percy doesn't know too much of
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what's happening. Absolutely. Exciting dream time, though.
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I know, it's been a minute. The
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first Blurry dream is that of a
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fawn. In quotation marks running up to
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Percy, and Percy saying, oh, I don't
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have any change, I don't have any
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change, man tells Bursi to stay put
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as they are in route to finding
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him and they believe that Tyson is
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the closest to him. So this is
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where they've been the whole time explaining
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why they weren't in the last book
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and, oh, the prospect of Grover and
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Tyson showing up at the end of
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this book, most likely, is very exciting
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to me. I was so exciting to
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be hearing from all our old friends,
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but the stay put thing you're just
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like, he's just got assigned on a
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quest, ah, I want. The timing couldn't
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be worse or more dramatic. but also
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perfect. But yes, I literally wrote my
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notes. So funny for him to say
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stay put just as they are about
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to leave. It is perfect work from
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Kyron for plot managing purposes or really
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from Rick Ryordan. Just he knows what
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he's doing. He's crafting. It's like when
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Gabriel Arbina, our friend, scripts things and
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it makes it so it just like
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destroys your heart and you start crying
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like Rick knows what he's doing. He's
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making the most anxiety inducing situation possible,
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but it makes it so far. Now,
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the next dream blur is Annabith running
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alongside him and reaching out her hand
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while saying that they couldn't see him
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for months on end, but now they
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can. And this makes Percy remember that
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Juno said he'd been slumbering for months
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but is now awake. I'm wondering if
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the slumbering is literal or if it
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was figurative or exactly what the time
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difference between the start of the lost
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hero and the start if the son
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of Neptune was, it would be fun
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if we get like the full timeline,
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timeline, but yeah, I wonder what's a
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foot here. months and what is that
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like it feels very I don't know
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it feels very Zelda to just be
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in stasis sort of waiting to go.
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Feels very Zelda feels very kingdom hearts
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chain of memories which is when SORA's
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in like a basically like freezing sleeping
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coma sort of thing and then they
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use his memories to do stuff they
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look memories memories we're getting more connections
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between kingdom hearts and Percy Jackson it's
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just all over the place. Percy asks
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Annabeth are you real? and he gets
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supremely nervous because he wants it to
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be true so badly. And I think
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that this is very sweet and it
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made me a little emotional. She also
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tells him to stay put because Tyson's
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job of finding him will be made
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easier and I'm thinking, okay, Tyson, Cyclops,
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and Poseidon, maybe it's because Percy's close
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to a coast, perhaps that's why he's
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the closest and it does make me
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think that. if they do go on
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this quest which I feel like at
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this point when I was reading that
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they're gonna do I don't see Percy
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being like later dudes and just chilling
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back and then every third narration cycle
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is him being like so I was
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a camp just waiting for Tyson so
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if they're going to Alaska Alaska's got
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lot of water around it. I feel
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like Tyson's probably traveling by water, so
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I think it'll be okay. And my
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prediction here, another bull just like swing,
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is I feel like Tyson will join
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in Alaska at like a climactic battle
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moment when it appears that all hope
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is lost. They're fighting this big bad
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who we come to learn over the
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course of these two chapters and it's
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not going well. And then Tyson comes
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in with a big old fist or
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throw something. Like I just could see
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that being the entrance of Tyson and
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I think it would be very cool.
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Awesome, no comment. The trap door intact.
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We've got one across the pond and
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it's still working, but it's not activated.
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So then Percy sees a vision that
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is vaguely described by the narrator, but
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it is definitely Leo building the Argo
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2. So glad to know that that
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is progressing. And then he sees an
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image that is definitely a flashback of
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Percy's fight with Ares from the Lightning
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Thief. And then he has a vision
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of Gia, where he's seeing her face
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in the field of Mars. And then
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she and her sleepy voice creepiness goes,
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quote, so this is the demigod who
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destroyed my son Cronos. You don't look
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like much, Percy Jackson, but you're valuable
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to me. Come north, meet Alcyonus, do
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you know how to pronounce this one?
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I really don't. I was something you
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did. more common thing people would say
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is like Alcyonius but if that's the
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Roman name like I'm so used to
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taking line in high school and sees
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or hard C's at least what my
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Latin professors told me is that you
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would say like Alkyonius but I can
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ask Dr. Moyus and people can correct
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me. Let's just see if Google has
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the thing sometimes they've the answer Alcyonius
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question. Mark. Pronunciation. All right, it's like
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one of those how-to-pronounce, and I never
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trust those. This one's rated four out
9:44
of five, though. Let's see. Let's see
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what it says. They're saying Alcyonius. I'm
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guessing that would be the accepted thing,
9:50
but I'll figure it out. So we'll
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call him Alcyonius for this. episode and
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we'll see how it goes in the
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future. Gia continues. Juno can play her
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little games with Greeks and Romans but
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in the end you will be my
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pawn, you'll be the key to the
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gods defeat and I'm thinking yeah right
10:07
loser this is now what Percy's gonna
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do. I couldn't think of like an
10:11
exact example but this does feel like
10:13
this is sometimes a classic villain thing
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where they intentionally try to bring the
10:18
hero along. in hopes that they will
10:20
turn, but then actually brings the hero
10:22
closer to defeating them. I couldn't remember
10:24
if this was something from a different
10:26
media or was I just thinking of
10:28
them like kind of doing this with
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Jason? Yeah. Knowing someone in thinking they're
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going to turn your side and of
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course they won't. Yeah, yeah, I think
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that's a thing. It feels like a
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thing. I don't know if there's like
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a name for it, but whatever it
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is, I think that's going to happen.
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Yeah. Now the dream shifts to where
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Percy is in a larger version of
10:50
Camp Jupiter's Principia and this one is
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a snowy version The floor is littered
10:54
with skeletons of Roman fighters and their
10:56
imperial gold weapons and sitting across the
10:58
room is a large shadowy figure with
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golden silver skin like he's an automaton
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like Rayna's dogs, and I have to
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be honest This is the first time
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that I really recognized that the dogs
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are like fully robot dogs and not
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just like a dog made of silver
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and a dog of gold. Like I
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was imagining like the silver surfer but
11:18
a dog and then I guess the
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gold surfer but a dog and then
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when they said our tomatana I was
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like yeah that makes way more sense.
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But it is quite strange. and awesome.
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Yeah, we've not seen this before. No,
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I don't know. And I don't think
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that this guy is a robot. I
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think he just has Metallixian. So maybe
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he is more like the silver surfer,
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like I was imagining the dog. I'm
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intrigued to know more about him. And
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I'm especially treat to know more about
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him as we do learn a little
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bit more about him in the chapters
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because I feel like his description. metallic.
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We can get into it when it's
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described, but like, even this vibe, and
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I don't know if the vibe is
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because it's Alaska or because of him,
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I don't know if they end up
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even saying his powers, but like, just
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in general, like, metal guy being in
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Ice Town doesn't feel like, yeah, that
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makes sense. So, I don't know. Now
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behind him are a bunch of ruined
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emblems, tattered banners, and a large golden
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eagle on an iron staff. So this
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is the guy we're after, he's got
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the thing we're after, and we're learning
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right away. This is basically the mini
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boss of this book. He feels like
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this book's version of, I guess, the
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last book had... two because you've got
12:30
enchiladas and then also porphyryon. So I
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guess he feels like this book's porphyryon
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in that he is the giant. It
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just seems like this is the guy
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we're fighting in chapter 52 out of
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58 or whatever. Now this giant bellows,
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this will be fun son of Neptune.
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It's been eon since I broke a
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demigod of your caliber. I await you
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atop the ice. So I'm guessing at
12:52
this point. Okay, this feels like Alcyonius.
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Excited about this because now this is
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the second giant who's like talking trash
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excited to fight. Yes, I think they're
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very compelling villains because they're just supremely
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confident. We had this with Porphyria and
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we have this now with Alcyonius. I
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think it's going to be really fun
13:09
fighting these guys for the next three
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and two thirds books. Percy wakes up
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shivering, which is different than his trademark
13:15
thing where normally it says Percy woke
13:17
up upright. So a slight different Percy
13:20
waking effect. And the most figuratively chilling
13:22
part of the dream is not the
13:24
golden giant that he saw, but it's
13:26
the dirt woman calling him a pawn.
13:28
And narrative Percy about this says, quote,
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Percy didn't play chess, but he was
13:32
pretty sure that being a pawn was
13:35
bad. They died a lot. And as
13:37
someone that plays a lot of chess,
13:39
you are correct, but also Percy, pawns
13:41
can turn into queens can turn into
13:43
queens when they get to the other
13:45
side of the other side of the
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other side of the other side of
13:49
the other side of the other side
13:52
of the board. So... If she thinks
13:54
you are her pawn and then you
13:56
get all the way, then you become
13:58
the queen, then you destroy her. I
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like that. That's really good. What a
14:02
great metaphor. Look, I do what I can
14:04
and I was literally playing chess in between reading
14:07
this chapter online. I love playing some online chess
14:09
and I was happy to do it and it
14:11
was funny that it came up. because I was
14:13
playing chess before reading this and then I was
14:15
like, and then of course I had to check
14:17
the games that I was playing. Because I've these
14:20
like long daily games going with my friends who
14:22
are way better than me at chess. So I
14:24
like pretty much always lose now when I'm playing
14:26
chess. But if I'm ever like close to beating
14:28
my friends who are really good, I'm like, oh
14:30
nice cool. That's awesome. I suck at chess, but
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I think playing with better people must be
14:35
good for kind of kind of... developing. Definitely,
14:37
because you're always like playing to the
14:39
skill above you. And I feel like
14:41
I did this with sports, like when I'd
14:43
played tennis, like I would always play
14:45
up if I was playing someone better than
14:47
me and you kind of like sick
14:49
and guess yourself and play down, you
14:51
get nervous and cautious if you're playing someone
14:54
that you're playing down, you get nervous
14:56
and cautious if you're playing someone that
14:58
you get nervous and cautious if you're playing
15:00
someone, you're playing down, you get nervous
15:02
and cautious if you're playing a day,
15:04
or the course of... COVID lockdown like April
15:06
2020 to April 2021. I played, I did
15:08
the puzzles every single day and raised my
15:11
puzzle rating. I think they start you at
15:13
like either 500 or 1,000 and then I
15:15
got myself up to 2,000. And it's a
15:17
great way to learn. And there's a lot
15:20
of learning tools on chess.com. So if you
15:22
want to get into it, I'd recommend it,
15:24
but also you can do other things with
15:26
your time. Anyway, Bursie is even a bit
15:29
worried about some of the quote-unquote nicer parts
15:31
of his dreams, like that g-man fellow that
15:33
he saw. He wonders if that is the
15:35
person that's on the other end of his
15:38
empathy link. So, Pursie is doing a pretty
15:40
good job of piecing together the new information
15:42
that he's learning with the tiny little bits
15:45
of memory that still remain. He's very on
15:47
top of it. Yeah, I feel like he's
15:49
kind of making... Progress a little
15:51
bit faster than Jason did. He's doing
15:53
a lot better than Jason and I
15:55
don't know if it is because of
15:57
Percy individually or if it's because Hera
16:00
left more things in there or if it's
16:02
just because we know Percy and writing wise.
16:04
Yeah because like I think that's an interesting
16:06
thing is I wonder if even if I
16:09
reread the Lost Hero now or if I
16:11
reread the Lost Hero at the end of
16:13
these five books when I know more about
16:15
Jason I wonder if Me reading it more
16:17
of those hints I would be doing more
16:20
of the like oh because I feel like
16:22
anytime anything happens here With Percy we're like
16:24
oh, but yeah, we know five books worth
16:26
of information about Percy Jackson So anytime the
16:29
exact like the slightest thing is mentioned like
16:31
I don't know it could even be a
16:33
thing where Percy was like getting food at
16:35
the cafeteria and it was like there was
16:38
a bunch of jello and Percy picked the
16:40
blue one for some reason he wanted the
16:42
blue jello and we're all like oh I
16:44
guess he did have the Coke right the
16:46
Coke was blue at the cafeteria here and
16:49
he was like I don't know why I
16:51
like this but I like this yeah it's
16:53
such a minor thing that doesn't mean anything
16:55
but us reading a world like oh my
16:58
god the thing so maybe it's just because
17:00
we know more but I agree with you
17:02
my first instinct was like wow he's way
17:04
better at this than Jason Now, Percy's also
17:07
curious about this Tyson fellow and the fact
17:09
that Annabeth was insistent on him not changing
17:11
locations. So, Percy Awaken now sees Dakota putting
17:13
on a toga and other people rushing around
17:15
to get ready. Percy asks, hoping that the
17:18
answer is yes. If... Breakfast time is upon
17:20
them and Frank who's in the bunk underneath
17:22
Percy which makes me very happy that they
17:24
are a bunk bed duo. I thought it
17:27
was so great. Yeah, that's awesome. Although Frank
17:29
has the worst bunk clearly. Oh, you're a
17:31
top bunk person. For sure. Are you not?
17:33
No, I like bottom bunk because I like
17:36
when I sleep I get hot very easily
17:38
and I feel like being lowered to the
17:40
ground is cooler. Why do you prefer a
17:42
top bunk? I just... don't like the idea
17:44
of someone being above you. I don't know.
17:47
Safety risk. But then you all, I guess
17:49
you're at a falling risk, are you not?
17:51
You don't really fall there, do you, when
17:53
you get to use the ladder? So much
17:56
more fun. I think they're frozen cons. I
17:58
like bottom because it's cooler. You do get
18:00
a bit of a noise concern, where like
18:02
if the person above you like moves a...
18:05
in their sleep, you get the classic like,
18:07
quick, quick, quick, quick, quick. So, yeah, I've
18:09
never thought about being the risk of the
18:11
bed just like falling down on you, and
18:13
now I will forever worry about that if
18:16
I sleep in a bottom book. But as
18:18
a 32-year-old man, I'm not doing a lot
18:20
of bunk bed sleeping these days. No, me
18:22
neither really. It doesn't come up that much.
18:25
So Frank informs Percy that they will have
18:27
a quick breakfast followed by a Senate meeting,
18:29
and I remember a right. Mars told them
18:31
you got to have a meeting to figure
18:34
out who's going on this quest. Percy asks
18:36
if he should wear his bedsheets and Frank
18:38
chuckles and relays that Togas are only for
18:40
the senators, of which there are 10 who
18:42
are elected yearly and all of them must
18:45
be at least five year veterans of the
18:47
camp. Percy asks, okay, then why are we
18:49
invited to the meeting? And Franco's, uh, because
18:51
of the quest? And he then continues to
18:54
describe it in a tone like he's worried
18:56
that Percy might back out. But he says
18:58
that Percy and Hazel should attend, quote, I
19:00
mean, if you're willing, dot, dot, dot. And
19:02
Percy doesn't think that this is an intentional
19:05
guilt trip, but he does feel bad for
19:07
Frank, and he feels like he's in a
19:09
tough situation. He was claimed by the God
19:11
of war, which he didn't want, and he's
19:14
being thrust into this. And I just had
19:16
a quick question. I wrote my nose. Why
19:18
is Hazel there? Just because she's in contention,
19:20
Mars didn't say that she had to be
19:23
one of the three. Frank didn't say anything
19:25
about picking her, right? I had the same
19:27
point, and I was going to ask you
19:29
at the beginning of the chapter, who you
19:31
understood was on the chapter, who you understood
19:34
was on the quest, because I thought it
19:36
was clear that Frank is on the quest,
19:38
Percy's on the quest, but there's one more
19:40
spot, and we know that they're close. He
19:43
didn't pick Hazel. yet. Like I guess it's
19:45
just understood by everyone or maybe there was
19:47
like a slight time jump because we did
19:49
go straight from Mars saying do the quest
19:52
to Percy is a sleeping so I guess
19:54
there was a whole couple of hours in
19:56
between but yeah I was very confused I
19:58
didn't think that he actually chose Hazel so
20:00
I'm glad that you had a similar confusion.
20:03
Absolutely. were all just supposed to believe it,
20:05
but I was thinking that they were going
20:07
to get to the Senate meeting and that
20:09
he was going to want to pick Hazel
20:12
and it was going to be more of
20:14
a dramatic discussion. There's other drama that comes
20:16
up instead, but I was fully anticipating that
20:18
going into this meeting. So when they kind
20:21
of fast-forwarded it to be like, oh yeah,
20:23
he's already picked Hazel. I was like, whoa,
20:25
wait, hold on, has he? Did I miss
20:27
this? I'm reading the same book, right? I
20:29
thought other people are going to put themselves
20:32
forward, it's going to be like a whole
20:34
thing. Yeah, Octavian's going to make a big
20:36
deal, like I thought that was going to
20:38
be a thing of everyone trying to get
20:41
up there, but okay, so he's picked Hazel,
20:43
I was confused, glad we're on the same
20:45
page. Percy is feeling good about how well
20:47
the three of them worked together as a
20:50
team. Percy is feeling good about how the
20:52
three of them worked together as a team.
20:54
Dream Visitors also said, stay put multiple times,
20:56
every time using the phrasing of stay put.
20:58
And that means that much like Natalie and
21:01
Bruglia, he's torn. So he doesn't know. Okay,
21:03
I'm glad. This is one of those like,
21:05
I love that song. This is one of
21:07
those like, I love that song, I love
21:10
that song, but I don't know if anyone
21:12
knows the artist of it, because was she
21:14
only have wonder. I don't. Percy gets ready
21:16
the whole time he's thinking about Annabeth and
21:19
how if he just stayed here he could
21:21
get his old life back so he is
21:23
clearly flip-flopping like a pancake good thing he's
21:25
at breakfast so he's at breakfast and then
21:27
he hears everyone mumbling around him and much
21:30
like to-pock all eyes are on him he
21:32
overhears quote two gods in one day and
21:34
then he hears someone else say un-Roman fighting
21:36
and then he hears a third go water
21:39
cannon up my nose I love this guy.
21:41
There are some great one-liners in this chapter.
21:43
This chapter has a lot of good one-liners,
21:45
but yes, Water Up My Nose Guy, very
21:48
fun. I love a rule of thirds joke
21:50
from Uncle Rick. This felt like Rick wrote
21:52
this chapter after taking an improv class, and
21:54
I will get into the fundamentals of it
21:56
as it continues. But yes, this initial line
21:59
was very funny. So narrative Percy
22:01
then says quote he was too hungry
22:03
to care He filled up on pancakes
22:05
eggs bacon waffles apples and several glasses
22:07
of orange juice He probably would have
22:09
eaten more But Reina announced that the
22:11
Senate would now convene in the city
22:13
and all the folks in Togas got
22:15
up to leave and I've never related
22:18
more if anyone's ever seen me at
22:20
a breakfast buffet You know I will
22:22
eat until something makes me stop eating
22:24
whether that's the buffet is closed or
22:26
we need to leave I can put
22:28
down some serious food when it comes
22:30
to breakfast when it comes to breakfast
22:32
especially if it's free serious food when
22:34
Oh my good golly gosh. This is
22:36
a great breakfast list. Yes, okay. I
22:38
mean, I was going to say, this
22:40
is very like American breakfast. Were you
22:42
upset that there was no... beans and
22:44
black pudding and roasted tomatoes. Oh, you're
22:47
not a black pudding fan. Oh, I'm
22:49
a vegetarian. Oh, okay. I can get
22:51
on board with the general idea of
22:53
bacon at breakfast. I just think it's
22:55
very wholesome to see him eating all
22:57
the cool stuff. Yeah. When you are
22:59
reading this, as a Brit, did you
23:01
feel like, oh, because if like if
23:03
there was a book where they were
23:05
in London and it was like, he
23:07
had beans and toast, I would have
23:09
been like, oh, so classic, The apples,
23:11
I was a bit like, yes, let
23:13
me healthy, that's nice. It is, I
23:16
guess. And I'm not, maybe this is
23:18
me, maybe I'm like slightly allergic to
23:20
apples and I don't recognize it, but
23:22
I feel like apples, if I eat
23:24
them in the morning, it doesn't sit
23:26
well in my stomach. This also happens
23:28
if I drink apple juice just like
23:30
straight up. That also could be because
23:32
apple juice has loads of sugar in
23:34
it and maybe that's just like my
23:36
stomach being like no thank you but
23:38
apples at breakfast to me I thought
23:40
was interesting to me it doesn't scream
23:43
like a Brexit food more traditional but
23:45
I guess he has a glass of
23:47
orange juice I would think would be
23:49
like oranges it seems breakfasty like melon
23:51
of sorts like cantillope or cantillope less
23:53
cool little sister honeydew even grapes but
23:55
apples at the thing that you grab
23:57
to go from the breakfast buffet after
23:59
breakfast is ended. But I guess if
24:01
you are to continental breakfast, the most
24:03
common things are apples and oranges and
24:05
bananas. But I just feel like that's
24:07
because they're the most. travel-friendly fruit to
24:09
bring, because you can just eat it
24:12
with one hand and then toss away
24:14
the core? Yeah. Okay, we're aligned. When
24:16
I saw apples, I was like, apples,
24:18
hmm. I feel like he's just grabbing
24:20
everything he can. Smart, a smart play.
24:22
Now, Vitalius pops up near our team
24:24
and says, Bonafortuna, you three! Ah, Senate
24:26
meetings. I remember the one when Caesar
24:28
was assassinated. Why, the amount of blood
24:30
on his toga, I'm all in on
24:32
Vitalius. He's just this book. He's just
24:34
this book. Good, okay. He's just this
24:36
book. He's just this book's Coach Hedge.
24:38
But I love Coach Hedge, and I'm
24:41
all in on Vital. about this meeting.
24:43
It's so fine. I love Vitalius. I
24:45
need Vitalius and Coach Hedge to meet.
24:47
Oh my goodness, it would be so
24:49
wonderful. I am missing Coach Hedge. That's
24:51
another thing is Vitalius is making me
24:53
feel okay in that we're getting Coach
24:55
Hedge vibes and same thing, I'm missing
24:57
Coach Hedge as well. Brana and Octavian
24:59
lead the group of senators, they lead
25:01
our team, and also Niko Diangelo to
25:03
this meeting. So Niko is still finding
25:05
a way to show up. Niko is
25:07
wearing a black toga because of course,
25:10
and he's chatting with Gwen, who narrative
25:12
Percy describes as, quote, looked a little
25:14
pale, but surprisingly good, considering she'd been
25:16
dead the night before. Uncle Rick
25:18
is absolutely in his bag when Percy's the
25:20
narrator. Like he's just cooking with gas when
25:22
Percy narrates. He really isn't. It feels kind
25:25
of great to have Percy back. It's just,
25:27
it's great, it's great, it's very good. Yeah,
25:29
I think this is a common thing among
25:31
people reading these books, especially people like me,
25:33
you, and my friend Stephen, who are all
25:36
reading these now and reading them older, where
25:38
I was reading. Percy chapters again and this
25:40
is how I feel too and I think
25:42
it makes sense because when I was reading
25:44
the Lost Hero I was like what's wrong
25:47
with the Lost Hero guys this book is
25:49
fun it's great and now I'm reading this
25:51
book and I'm like okay yeah like this
25:53
is not to diss the Lost Hero but
25:55
like This is way better. It's just a
25:58
bit extra, isn't it? Just a little bit
26:00
more. And like sure, it's the nostalgia kick
26:02
of it, but just, yeah, Rick is just...
26:04
So good when Percy's the narrator, and it
26:06
makes me really excited to get to, and
26:09
maybe there's not one, but it makes me
26:11
excited for if there will be a future
26:13
Percy is only the narrator book, I don't
26:15
know if that would be Trials of Apollo,
26:17
I don't know if that would be Trials
26:20
of Apollo, I don't know if that would
26:22
be these new books, the new trilogy that
26:24
they're writing with Chalice of the Gods, that
26:26
I believe takes place between, here's Olympus of
26:28
Apollo, and I'm not sure, no one tell
26:31
me, no one tell me, I don't, I
26:33
don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I
26:35
don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I
26:37
don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I
26:39
don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I
26:42
don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I
26:44
don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I
26:46
Whenever there's another book where it's just Percy
26:48
narrating, I'll be very happy. Not that I
26:50
don't like the other narrators, but I just
26:53
feel like after doing five books of it,
26:55
Rick knows exactly how to be amazing as
26:57
Percy as the narrator. It's just so fun.
26:59
He's just so fun. Nico waves at Percy
27:01
and then resumes his conversation, making Percy feel
27:04
almost a hundred percent certain that Nico is
27:06
avoiding him. What is with Nico? I know,
27:08
gosh, it's such a mystery, I love it,
27:10
it's so fun. Now many senators are fidgeting
27:12
with their togas, making Percy feel glad that
27:15
he's in his, quote, normal purple shirt and
27:17
jeans, and it just feels so wrong. It
27:19
just feels so wrong for him to be
27:21
in the different colors, sure. Percy asks how
27:23
ancient Romans could move in Togas. Hazel explains
27:26
that they were only for formal events. They're
27:28
kind of like tuxedos. And then Hazel checks
27:30
to make sure that Percy didn't bring any
27:32
weapons. And Percy, who was incapable of not
27:34
having a weapon in his pocket at all
27:37
times, asks, uh, why are we not supposed
27:39
to? So many, so many. She says that
27:41
weapons are forbidden past the... Hommerian line, which
27:43
of course, auto-correct on my notes I've tried
27:45
to change to the Pomeranian line. That's exactly
27:48
what I read the first time. I was
27:50
like, what? It's a bunch of expensive rearbred
27:52
dogs. Thankfully, Percy immediately asks, what's that? And
27:54
Frank answers that it is the city limits,
27:56
and it's a safe zone where legions cannot
27:59
pass. No weapons can go past, so that
28:01
meetings don't get bloody. And Percy's, oh, like
28:03
Caesar's assassination. happened in months. And Percy hopes
28:05
that's a joke. And I'm wondering, is it
28:07
a joke? Because he didn't tell us the
28:10
tone. So it could be Frank making a
28:12
very funny joke if it's a joke. Or
28:14
it could be Frank saying something that is
28:16
very unintentionally scary. Yep, just straight up, could
28:18
be. Mm-hmm. Now as they approach the city,
28:21
Percy appreciates its beauty and then Percy can
28:23
tell that they've reached the city limits as
28:25
everyone slows down near a marble statue of
28:27
a muscular man with curly hair, no arms,
28:29
in a grumpy expression. He's just a bust.
28:32
And he orders the campers to form a
28:34
single file line and present their IDs. And
28:36
I'm thinking, oh no, we're back at the
28:38
TSA pre-check vibes of Easy Death from the
28:40
Under the Under the City. all around its
28:43
border and the IDs are the tattoos. We
28:45
learn also from just a description of narrator
28:47
Percy that cohort three has a senator named
28:49
Hank who is apparently wearing cool shoes because
28:51
this statue compliments his cool shoes. The statute
28:54
then stops Percy, hazel addresses him as terminus
28:56
and introduces him to Percy and Percy to
28:58
him, identifying him as the god of boundaries.
29:00
And that would make sense, especially given the
29:02
name Terminus. We can all guess exactly what
29:05
that kind of means, the end, the boundary.
29:07
And he is okay with Percy's probatio necklace
29:09
as an ID, but he is not okay
29:11
with the weapon in his pocket. So I'm
29:13
wondering, okay, what's going to happen? Like, is
29:16
it going to vanish out of vanish out
29:18
of there? And is going to be a
29:20
whole dramatic out of a whole dramatic situation?
29:22
But Terminus tells Percy to leave it on
29:24
a tray and calls over his assistant. A
29:27
six-year-old girl named Julia! I love Julia! She's
29:29
my new favorite character in the whole series.
29:31
She plays a hiding game with Terminus where
29:33
she stands behind him and stuff out of
29:35
his peripheral vision. adorable. Then she holds out
29:38
a tray that has knives, a corkscrew, an
29:40
oversized container of suntan lotion, and a water
29:42
bottle. So yes, this is a TSA pre-check,
29:44
airport security joke from Rick Ryorded. I love
29:46
it! Terminus says that Julia is a professional,
29:49
so no need for Percy to worry. He
29:51
can get his weapon on the way out,
29:53
and I'm thinking again, is it going to
29:55
stay? And Julia sounds out the word professional,
29:57
like she's been learning it at practice? Look
30:00
at you, she's so cute. And this is
30:02
especially tugged at my heartstrings because I am
30:04
now the proud father of an adorable little
30:06
baby girl. And we recently took her on
30:08
a little Halloween adventure. We're recording this on
30:11
November 1st. And we took her on a
30:13
little pumpkin patch Halloween adventure in the city
30:15
of New York. And it was so fun
30:17
and cute. And she got a pumpkin, which
30:19
of course she tried to eat. But the
30:22
pumpkin is as big as her heads. That
30:24
didn't work out. It was very fun and
30:26
adorable. So to then go home that night
30:28
and read about a tiny little six year
30:30
old girl, I can't wait till she's six.
30:33
And she plays hide and seek with me.
30:35
Oh, so cute. So then this guy lays
30:37
down some rules for Percy. And I just
30:39
wrote, I like this guy, like he's fun,
30:41
he's to the point, he's not being like
30:44
overly grouchy or anything. He then tries to
30:46
point something out to Percy. And Percy has
30:48
to remind Terminus, I can't see where you're
30:50
pointing. You have no hands. And he then
30:52
gets a little upset and responds, a smart
30:55
ally, eh? Well, Mr. Rule Flower, right down
30:57
there in the forum, truly a point for
30:59
me, please. And after this, I was like,
31:01
I like this guy a lot. He's cool.
31:03
He's really fun. I'm a big fan of
31:06
Terminus. she points to the general store and
31:08
terminus explains that Percy needs to get a
31:10
tape measure so that he can make his
31:12
pants one inch above his ankles which fashion
31:14
wise do not do that that is too
31:17
high depending on the type of pants you
31:19
want to usually have it like meet your
31:21
ankles an inch above that is a wild
31:23
look unless you're rocking like cropped pants like
31:25
an intentionally like short and baggy sort of
31:28
look like Gen Z folks enjoy these days
31:30
but Inch above your ankle, I was just
31:32
from a fashion perspective, I was appalled. Too
31:34
high. Hazel, much like Frank talking to Vitali,
31:36
goes, thank you terminus, we need to get
31:39
going. And they're just going to ignore this
31:41
guy, which feels good since he has no
31:43
idea how to properly tailor pants. He lets
31:45
them pass but he calls out for Hazel
31:47
to only walk on the right side of
31:50
the road and to move a rock too
31:52
much just to the left because it's out
31:54
of place. Hazel does. Prisey asks if this
31:56
guy's always like this and she says no
31:58
because he's normally more obsessive compulsive. And I
32:01
will be honest, I do not know much
32:03
about... obsessive compulsive tendencies, OCD, I don't know
32:05
that, so I don't know if these are
32:07
like legit things. I know OCD usually gets
32:09
misrepresented in media, like I think the stereotypical
32:12
thing is that it's like the whole like,
32:14
oh I gotta you know, touch my pockets
32:16
three times before I leave a room, and
32:18
I just personally have like never met someone
32:20
with an actual case of OCD or learned
32:23
about it, so for me I need to
32:25
learn more if people want to email in,
32:27
I'm happy to learn more, or I'm happy
32:29
to learn more. I've known a couple of
32:31
people with, I think everybody's different and I
32:34
don't know an enormous about, I felt in
32:36
a way that this was a little bit
32:38
of a sort of slightly of its time
32:40
portrayal of sort of somebody just being very
32:42
finicity about certain things, but also I think
32:45
in a way we've sort of got past
32:47
that a little bit with portrayals of OCD,
32:49
but also this is a finiccady guy who
32:51
is very strict about things and... I feel
32:53
like I saw what they're reacting to. Right,
32:56
I was reading this and I was wondering
32:58
the same thing. Is this a dated sort
33:00
of thing of like this guy's just particular
33:02
as opposed to OCD? Just the classic thing
33:04
like I feel like all of the people
33:07
our parents age love to just say like
33:09
oh I'm so OCD because I put the
33:11
silverware in the drawer. It's like no that's
33:13
where the silverware goes. So yeah, anyone who
33:15
knows more about this, feel free to shoot
33:18
an email to the T&O Gmail. Because I
33:20
would love to the T&O Gmail to the
33:22
T&O Gmail. Terminus inhabits each boundary stone around
33:24
the city. He's the last line of defense.
33:26
And Hazel says that he's not so bad,
33:29
but he recommends staying on his good side,
33:31
otherwise he'll punish you by making you measure
33:33
blades of grass, which does not feel like
33:35
a fun punishment. Percy asks about Julia, hazel
33:37
smiles and calls her acuity, which is accurate,
33:40
and she explains that her parents live in
33:42
the city. And I'm just imagining, I don't
33:44
know if you play Baldur's Gate 3, but
33:46
I'm just imagining Arabella from Baldur's Gate 3.
33:48
She's this tiny little girl who you have
33:51
to like save along and has like some
33:53
powers and stuff. And I'm just imagining her
33:55
as Julia. She's got horns. So she's like
33:57
a hornless version of Arabellas what's what's in
33:59
my brain. So they get. near the forum
34:02
and Percy is shocked to see so many
34:04
people including college-aged kids, older couples, babies and
34:06
in general just normal city hustle and bustle.
34:08
Percy checks that everyone here is a demigod
34:10
and he says that yes they are either demigods
34:13
or the descendants of demigods and repeats that this
34:15
is a good place to safely raise a family
34:17
and I think this is a really fun addition
34:19
to the lore. I think it just makes an
34:21
interesting wrinkle for our characters and it's just this
34:24
new thing of you know do they keep. fighting
34:26
off monsters in the world, or do they kind
34:28
of take, not necessarily the easy way out, but
34:30
like the safe route of do we just kind
34:33
of stay here in this city and chill? It's
34:35
a fun thing for our characters to process as
34:37
they get older. I think it's such an interesting
34:39
development in this book because I
34:42
feel like in the Percy Jackson books
34:44
first time out, it was kind of
34:46
more of a demigos don't actually grow
34:48
up that often vibes, so they don't
34:50
really have to plan futures and having
34:52
this sort of fantasy of fantasy of
34:54
him and Annabeth. hanging out and having
34:56
a nice relatively peaceful life is a
34:58
sort of interesting thing to be dangled
35:00
as a possibility at this point. Right.
35:02
I also think it can be a
35:04
fun metaphor for kids reading these books
35:06
of how it can be scary to
35:08
go out into the world, whether that's
35:10
scary to go out into the world,
35:12
whether that's after high school, and you're
35:14
going to go out into the world,
35:17
whether that's after high school, and you're
35:19
going to a nice little, and try
35:21
out new adventures, which I would recommend
35:23
to people, because I think just getting
35:25
out and traveling and learning more about
35:27
the world and other people is awesome.
35:29
But you know, teach their own, but it at least brings this
35:31
sort of metaphor in for kids reading, like, you can have this
35:33
sort of life and you can have this other sort of life
35:35
and you can have this other sort of life. And I'm intrigued
35:38
to see as the people in these books get older, like, is
35:40
it going to come up in trials of Apollo? Like, is it's
35:42
going to be some sort of a sort of person and if
35:44
person and I mean and I mean and I'm trying to try
35:46
to try to figure out? Interesting. So Hazel
35:48
adds that two to three hundred people live
35:51
here and serve as advisors and army reserves
35:53
if need be, but mostly they just live
35:55
their lives. Now of course Percy wonders about
35:57
a future here with Hanabeth. A child includes...
36:00
But he snaps out of it
36:02
because he knows this place isn't
36:04
where he truly belongs. He's also
36:06
worried about the impending attack that
36:08
Juno mentioned, especially he is worried
36:10
that Gia will be involved in
36:12
this. He thinks of Mars' warning,
36:14
that failing the quest means the
36:16
quest means the warning, that failing
36:18
the quest means the quest means
36:21
the camp will be destroyed, and
36:23
this. He thinks of Mars' warning,
36:25
that failing the quest means the
36:27
camp will be destroyed, Hazel and
36:29
Frank inside. So here we go.
36:31
Ivory Title Chapter 13, Riptide doesn't
36:33
clear security. Oh, that's nice. I
36:35
like that very much. I said,
36:37
I push my luck with the
36:39
God of boundaries. Oh, fun. Yeah,
36:42
it's a very, it's a very
36:44
fun. I like the Riptide one.
36:46
So we're gonna take our break
36:48
here for The Son of Fortune,
36:50
and then we will return to
36:52
get into Chapter 14. Hello
36:56
and welcome to The Sun of Fortune from arguably
36:58
the most ridiculous location I will ever do a
37:00
mid-roll break from ever. Yes, I've come to you
37:02
from the bathroom on an airplane. Long story short,
37:04
I have a quite long flight that I'm on
37:06
and also that quite long flight was delayed by
37:09
many hours because of some snow in New York
37:11
City. So I'm trying to finish up the episode
37:13
on the plane because now I'm going to land
37:15
really late at night and I want to get
37:17
the episode out. reasonable hours from trying to have
37:19
it all done by the time I land in
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order to do that. We've had to record the
37:24
video break here and then put it on the
37:26
episode and then we're good to go. So I'm
37:28
going to be super quick here. I first just
37:30
want to remind everyone that we've got three live
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shows coming up in February. Got the one in
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going to be covering chapters 29 and 30 of
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but if you ever have to be productive in
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an airport bathroom, you can do it and no
38:30
one catches you and is confused by the fact
38:32
that it sounds like you're on the phone in
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your airport back. Because if you are all caught
38:37
up on the new celebrity and you're looking for
38:39
some of the contents, you can listen to one
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of the other pockets and you listen to, listen
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to one of the other pockets that you make,
38:45
you listen to one of the other pockets that
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you make, you, and you know, and you, and
38:49
you know, and you know, and you know, and
38:52
you know, and you, and you know, and you
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know, and you know, and you know, and you
38:56
know, and you know, and you, and you know,
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and you know, and you know, and you know,
39:00
and you know, and you know, and you know,
39:02
and you know, and you know, and you know,
39:04
and you know, and you know, and you know,
39:07
and you know, and cat litter and cat toys.
39:09
Some of them won't be read by me. Those
39:11
are inserted locally. I did confirm with my ad
39:13
people that we did get the gambling walker switched
39:15
on for whatever reason. It wasn't one of the
39:17
block categories. And that is funny with the books.
39:19
So I think all the sketchy stuff is now
39:22
officially blocked. But if you're a singer and picture,
39:24
you don't hear any of those in certain ads
39:26
anyway. But if you aren't, you might hear them
39:28
in your Friday's native native language. Do something? And
39:35
we're back. We're here Chapter 14, which
39:37
is also called Percy, but we will
39:39
re-title it. It opens with, quote, the
39:42
Senate House Interior looked like a high
39:44
school lecture hall. And I think we
39:46
found the least exciting opening line of
39:48
a Heroes of Olympus chapter. So many
39:50
good opening lines, but yeah. And then,
39:53
I get what they're doing, and this
39:55
is exactly where it picked up. But
39:57
like, nothing fun, no little joke at
39:59
all. We're just straight to business. Fine.
40:01
Now, it does paint the visual. The
40:04
visual. see like I could see very
40:06
clear in my mind the you know
40:08
the semicircle two-tiered sort of thing and
40:10
narrative Percy lets us know that one
40:13
seat has a small velvet package on
40:15
it and don't worry about check all
40:17
this package it will be addressed later.
40:19
The campers take the front row of
40:21
the semi circle veterans and folks from
40:24
the town and ghosts take the top
40:26
row and then we get this description
40:28
quote Octavian stood in front with a
40:30
beanie baby lion just in case anyone
40:32
needed to consult. Well should. Absolutely. I
40:35
think he's such a good baddy antagonist,
40:37
whatever he is, I hate him. I
40:39
hate him so much with his beanie
40:41
babies. Yes, he is perfectly written by
40:44
Rick Reardon just to be supremely hateable.
40:46
I think Rick is very good at
40:48
making you instantly like people we're supposed
40:50
to like and instantly hate people you're
40:52
supposed to hate. And I despise this
40:55
guy. I hate this guy more than
40:57
Luke. But at least look like kind
40:59
of had a point with his stuff
41:01
like he at least had some okay
41:03
ideas This dude just sucks like I'm
41:06
sure we'll learn his motivations later But
41:08
it seems like his motivations is I'm
41:10
a terrible person And I would love
41:12
to abuse power for selfish means and
41:15
that's really all it seems like we'll
41:17
get on but this chapter if you
41:19
didn't hate Octavian going into this chapter
41:21
the goal of chapter 14 is you
41:23
should hate this guy? So, Rayna gets
41:26
up and says that this is an
41:28
emergency meeting, and because it is, they're
41:30
not going to insist on formalities, and
41:32
this causes it goes to y'all, I
41:35
love formalities! And this guy, so good.
41:37
So good. She stares him down, superb.
41:39
She explains that they aren't here to
41:41
debate the quest, nor Frank's choice of
41:43
champions. And this is again where we're
41:46
made notes in all caps. Has he
41:48
officially picked hazel yet, or is it
41:50
just understood? or just rolling with it.
41:52
Hank, our guy who has... canonically cool
41:54
shoes is myth that all three people
41:57
going on the quest are from cohort
41:59
five says it's not fair then the
42:01
guy next to him says that it's
42:03
not a good idea because the fifth
42:06
cohort sucks and they'll screw it up
42:08
and then narrator Percy describes an awesome
42:10
situation quote Dakota got up so fast
42:12
he spilled cool aid from his flask
42:14
quote we were plenty good last night
42:17
when we whipped your polex Larry now
42:19
this is great on multiple fronts one
42:21
I love trash talk to defend someone's
42:23
honor like this is something I would
42:25
definitely do. It's something I did very
42:28
recently at the Yankees game. So I
42:30
went to the Yankees playing the World
42:32
Series. We tragically lost. No one talked
42:34
to me about it for a million
42:37
years. But one of the games at
42:39
Game 5 that I was at. There
42:41
was a situation where our pitcher was
42:43
pitching. One of the games at Game
42:45
5 that I was at, there was
42:48
a situation where our pitcher was pitching
42:50
in a high situation, and there was
42:52
a situation where our pitcher was pitching
42:54
on. because he had been performing poorly.
42:56
And I'm sitting here thinking, like, why
42:59
are you saying anything good or positive
43:01
about someone on the other team, implying
43:03
that our pitcher is not going to
43:05
strike him out? So then our pitcher
43:08
did strike him out. So I leaned
43:10
up and in that guy, he's here,
43:12
I said, dude, get out, let's go.
43:14
Because why are you saying, why are
43:16
you putting any negative energy towards our
43:19
team? What are you doing? We're all
43:21
rooting for the Yankees. So I'm the
43:23
Latin word for but. Oh, it's so
43:25
good. I actually did. Take Latin in
43:27
senior school, but I had never come
43:30
across this and I had to look
43:32
it up and it was great the
43:34
definition I will be fully honest I
43:36
also did not know this one I
43:39
did know from taking land in high
43:41
school some of the other words for
43:43
like naughty words like that glottium can
43:45
also mean something else and the word
43:47
for sheath like I knew that kind
43:50
of stuff and we would make those
43:52
jokes in high school and stuff but
43:54
we never knew po decks and I
43:56
did have to look it up it's
43:58
either the butt or other parts near
44:01
the butt Latin word and that just
44:03
made me very happy and it's just
44:05
so fun that like my entire career
44:07
had been coming to this moment where
44:10
after years and years of saying it
44:12
took London High School we're finally getting
44:14
to chapters where Latin is relevant and
44:16
we're all learning the Latin word for
44:18
but and it's just perfect and it's
44:21
just destiny really when you think about
44:23
it. on your poetics. On your poetics.
44:25
Rana comes to Code it down and
44:27
says that they should leave Larry's poetics
44:29
out of this. Great. Like, Rana doing
44:32
stuff like this. It's like, okay, so
44:34
she's like, she's kind of funny. Like,
44:36
yes, she's straight laced, but she's got
44:38
a little bit of a sense of
44:41
humor. I kind of, she's, she's straight
44:43
laced, but she's got a little bit
44:45
of a sense of humor. I kind
44:47
of, she's, she's, she's, she's got a
44:49
little bit, she's got a little bit,
44:52
she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's,
44:54
she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's,
44:56
she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's,
44:58
she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's,
45:00
she's, she's, she since Frank is only
45:03
a probatio. And quests must be led
45:05
by a Santurion-ranked person or hire. And
45:07
Regano silences this ghost named Cato and
45:09
says in order to obey the wishes
45:12
of Mars Ultor, they must make some
45:14
adjustments. Like, Reina's great. She's adapting. She
45:16
is someone who understands that she's like
45:18
gotta run the ship. But she also
45:20
understands that. You gotta navigate the waves
45:23
of the ship and you gotta roll
45:25
with the punches and I think that's
45:27
good. She claps her hands and then
45:29
Octavian comes forward. He puts down his
45:31
knife and grabs the velvet package from
45:34
the chair. He calls Frank forward and
45:36
bestows upon him the mural crown and
45:38
I wrote, oh right, the mural crown.
45:40
It's a badge shaped like a laurel
45:43
wreath and I know that they told
45:45
us that shaped like a laurel wreath
45:47
and I know that they told us
45:49
that it was a metal but I
45:51
was still imagining he promotes rank two
45:54
centurion and he, Octavian, says that it
45:56
was the request of Rayna. So I'm
45:58
glad that Rayna did this. Now another
46:00
bet. comes along with this, it's a
46:02
bronze crescent. And I know that this
46:05
is probably just like the shape crescent,
46:07
but I'm imagining the food crescent. Like
46:09
I'm imagining that it is a bronze
46:11
crescent badge. I think that's very funny.
46:14
And it makes me want to make
46:16
like a tino pin of like a
46:18
bronze crescent for being a centurion. But
46:20
he's got this batch now, people are
46:22
very upset at this, and you hear
46:25
people yelling from the crowd, he's still
46:27
a probi! Impossible! And then third person
46:29
goes, watercanted up my nose! Yes! So
46:31
glad that watercanted up my nose guy
46:33
made it to the meeting. Still that.
46:36
Be still my improv comedy heart, Uncle
46:38
Rick with a callback in the rule
46:40
of threes! Oh, Rick! So good, so
46:42
good. Octavian silences the crowd and defends
46:45
Reina's choice because if the rules state
46:47
that a quest leader must be at
46:49
least a centurion or higher, and Marr
46:51
said that Frank must lead the quest,
46:53
then Frank has to be a centurion.
46:56
And this felt very much like when
46:58
I did geometry proofs. I don't know
47:00
if you guys do this in maths.
47:02
Thank you. I appreciate that very much.
47:04
I didn't want you to be confused.
47:07
But when we have geometry class, there's
47:09
a whole thing of proofs where you
47:11
prove things like the transitive property or
47:13
things like that where you just like
47:16
kind of have, it's basically like turning
47:18
down like, well, if A equals this
47:20
and B equals that, blah, blah, blah,
47:22
blah, thus, you know, this. And then
47:24
I think we would even write QED.
47:27
It was hard because I didn't take
47:29
straight up geometry my freshman year. I
47:31
did like a hybrid thing where the
47:33
first semester was algebra and then the
47:35
second semester was geometry so they like
47:38
really condensed it and I feel like
47:40
we did proofs but it wasn't like
47:42
as much as some of the classes
47:44
who did like just geometry for the
47:47
full year. My high school goofed and
47:49
they didn't place me in like the
47:51
highest level math course and I like
47:53
blew that math course out of the
47:55
water. out of my depth having dropped
47:58
maths at 14. Okay, well, some people
48:00
will understand what I'm talking about. But
48:02
don't worry, I love math. I'm not
48:04
all out here doing geometry on a
48:07
daily basis, but you know, narrative, Percy,
48:09
then says, quote, suddenly Percy understood what
48:11
an effective speaker Octavian was. He sounded
48:13
reasonable and supportive, but his expression was
48:15
pain. He carefully crafted his words to
48:18
put all the responsibility on Rana. Octavian
48:20
had been the one in charge, things
48:22
would have been done more sensibly. But
48:24
alas, he had no choice but to
48:26
support Rayna, because Octavian was a loyal
48:29
Roman soldier. And I wrote my notes,
48:31
this guy is dangerous. This is someone
48:33
you don't want to mess with. And
48:35
the next line in the book is,
48:38
quote, for the first time, Percy realized
48:40
this scrawny, funny looking scarecrow of a
48:42
kid might be a dangerous enemy. And
48:44
this keeps happening where my thoughts will
48:46
line up exactly with the narrators, the
48:49
narrators, the narrators. Well written by Rick,
48:51
it clearly paints the message of the
48:53
type of person this guy is. And
48:55
I'm glad that Percy recognizes that this
48:57
is someone who's very dangerous because of
49:00
his oration skills. Yeah, he's not just
49:02
malicious. He's super sneaky and it is
49:04
encouraging that Percy at least knows that
49:06
that's what we're up against. Right. And
49:09
it's a sneaky thing where, you know,
49:11
Percy is very perceptive and he can
49:13
see this, but other people might get
49:15
fooled. when you can't just say like
49:17
obviously this is lying like you you
49:20
obviously there's something more nefarious at foot
49:22
and maybe I'm feeling this because we're
49:24
recording this on November 1st and our
49:26
election over here is coming soon and
49:28
we certainly have politicians that like to
49:31
do these sorts of things and they
49:33
trick Unfortunately high numbers of people. I
49:35
am nervous as hell. It's so soon,
49:37
Mike, it's so soon. It's so soon.
49:40
And this episode comes out afterwards. So,
49:42
uh-oh, uh-oh. It's either a relief or
49:44
maybe podcasts are illegal now, because as
49:46
much as one party loves to say
49:48
they're all pro-free speech, they love trying
49:51
to shut down stuff. We'll see how-
49:53
That goes, future Mike doing the production
49:55
work on this, maybe you're like, ha
49:57
ha, yay. And also maybe you're like,
49:59
oh no. Maybe you've already moved to
50:02
Finland. Wouldn't be lying if I said,
50:04
Kelly and I have looked into New
50:06
Zealand immigration policy. Interesting. Well, I got
50:08
everything crossed for you guys. Anyway, Berzi
50:11
Jackson. Now Reina picks up on this
50:13
crap from Octavian 2 and she is
50:15
visibly upset in the face so thankfully
50:17
she understands that this guy sucks. She
50:19
goes on to explain that there is
50:22
an opening for Centurion quote as one
50:24
of our officers also a senator has
50:26
decided to step down. Now here's my
50:28
question. They're using a lot of these
50:30
words that feel a little bit interchangeable
50:33
such as Centurion officer and senator. Now,
50:35
I'm very confused about what the difference
50:37
is here, but Beth, you're from the
50:39
UK. Is this like England, Great Britain,
50:42
in the UK, where they all sound
50:44
similar, but they're not all the same?
50:46
What's going on here? What's going on
50:48
here? Um, I don't know. I feel
50:50
like the centurions seem to be like
50:53
each of the houses. They don't call
50:55
them houses? The cohorts. Right. The cohorts
50:57
each have two centurians. and I think
50:59
in the real romanness of at all
51:01
a centurion would be in charge of
51:04
a hundred people right but it's different
51:06
at the camp because the houses aren't
51:08
divided into hundreds they're divided into smaller
51:10
numbers and so on and then we've
51:13
got the Senate made up of senators
51:15
and I think they are ten people
51:17
who I don't know if they are
51:19
get centurines as well I feel like
51:21
they are very different things but I
51:24
don't know if at camp they are
51:26
able to hold both offices. Yeah okay
51:28
so I've just tried to Google Google
51:30
Google Google it. on the Ryodin wiki
51:32
and I'm trying to not look very
51:35
far at things, but it just does
51:37
say like from the little description and
51:39
I'm not going to click it because
51:41
I'm afraid I'll like open the actual
51:44
page and then it'll be like, oh,
51:46
you know, when Grover dies, you know,
51:48
so this says that Centurion is a
51:50
professional officer in the Roman army. They're
51:52
the Roman equivalent of head counselors at
51:55
Camp Halfblood and are able to act
51:57
as senators. Centurion and officer feel very
51:59
similar. I guess a senator would just
52:01
be anyone who's accepted at the Senate
52:03
meeting. So I guess like the ghosts
52:06
would be a senator, but not necessarily
52:08
a centurion. I don't know how you
52:10
would be an officer, but not a
52:12
centurion. Those feel like those might be?
52:15
interchangeable unless like there is an officer
52:17
type position before you are upgraded to
52:19
centurion. But if I had to guess,
52:21
I think centurion would be the highest
52:23
one. Like a centurion is the highest
52:26
of the officers and then a senator
52:28
is just anyone who is at the
52:30
Senate meetings? Yes, I think you're right
52:32
that maybe there is an in-between level
52:34
because they're saying it's strange for Frank
52:37
to have gone from. basically nothing to
52:39
centurion implying it can usually rise up
52:41
through something else. Yeah, so I guess
52:43
I would need an example of someone
52:46
at the camp who is an officer
52:48
but not a centurion. Yeah. And the
52:50
more we say the word centurion, I
52:52
don't know if I'm supposed to say
52:54
centurion or like centurion, like it's always
52:57
hard with how much do you ch-
52:59
the T and centurion and centurion? This
53:01
is one of those words like zone
53:03
where if you say it just sounds
53:05
like it doesn't exist anymore. It just
53:08
sounds like it doesn't exist. I feel
53:10
like in British English you do more
53:12
of the like ch for teas don't
53:14
you I'm trying to think of another
53:17
example of this. Oh like Tuesday don't
53:19
you guys say like Tuesday? Yeah and
53:21
I find it really weird that you
53:23
say Tuesday and when I narrate audio
53:25
books I am told to say Zeus.
53:28
Uh, we don't go that proper. That's
53:30
a very proper. We go more of
53:32
like Zeus, like it's Z-O-O-O-S, kind of,
53:34
but not Zeus sounds a bit rigid.
53:36
It's like Dr. Seuss, but with a
53:39
Z. Like that's kind of how we
53:41
more say it. Like no one calls
53:43
it like, oh yes, the places you
53:45
will go by Dr. Seuss. But yeah,
53:48
what a tune. Oh, like musical tunes?
53:50
Oh, you mean tunes? Oh, wait, okay,
53:52
wait, what are you saying, like, tunes?
53:54
What's a tune? Well, a song, a
53:56
tune. Oh, okay, but we would, yeah,
53:59
but we would say, tune. Oh, gosh.
54:01
Oh, I could... Would you? I would
54:03
say, like, a tune. I know, we
54:05
don't really throw the CH instead of
54:07
a T. I also, what's the thing,
54:10
you guys throw like F's instead of
54:12
T'H's, right? Like it'll be, I'm trying
54:14
to think like, I don't know if
54:16
we do that. This is becoming Beth
54:19
and Mike's international nightmare. I know, oh
54:21
I, but I could do this for
54:23
years. If I think of one, I'll
54:25
say it, but I feel like there's
54:27
a thing where you'll like. say Fs
54:30
in words that actually have T-Hs instead
54:32
of them. There are some UK accents
54:34
that don't really have T-H, my partner
54:36
David, famously can't really say T-Hs, so
54:39
even Beth becomes Beth. Oh Beth, yes,
54:41
that, okay, got it. I'm looking for
54:43
example, it's literally your name. So yeah,
54:45
like, they'll be like, oh Beth, yeah.
54:47
Oh. Oh my gosh. Anyway, this has
54:50
been language tangent town with Mike and
54:52
Beth, but anyway, Persie. So Reina reveals
54:54
that this is Gwen who is stepping
54:56
down. Gwen is going to retire into
54:58
the city and attend college after 10
55:01
years of service in the Legion and
55:03
Percy. And I as well just can't
55:05
blame her for this. Totally makes sense.
55:07
Rina says that she has the right
55:10
to replace officers as prior to her.
55:12
Yesterday was also pretty unusual, which is
55:14
a very good point from Reina. She
55:16
asks for Frank's ID. He gives his
55:18
probatio necklace over to Octavian, who asks
55:21
for his arm. He raises Frank's arm
55:23
up to the sky, and says we
55:25
accept Frank's son of the sky, and
55:27
says we accept Frank's son of Mars,
55:29
to the 12th, Legion, Fulminata, for his
55:32
first year of service. Do you pledge
55:34
your life to the Senate and people
55:36
of Rome? And Frank tries to say
55:38
I do, but he stumblesles this third
55:41
and repeats it. Great. I really, very
55:43
hard to this. An excellent answer. All
55:45
you have to do is say two
55:47
words and you mess him up. I
55:49
love Frank so much. He's great. I'm
55:52
big fan, big fan. The senators then
55:54
chant SBQR, fireplaces his arm, and Frank
55:56
gives a look of fear. but then
55:58
his new tattoo shows up and it
56:00
says SBQR, it's got an image of
56:03
cross spears and one stripe. Octavian says
56:05
that Frank can sit down and he
56:07
gives another, this wasn't my call, look
56:09
to the crowd and I especially don't
56:12
like Octavian because Octavian would be me.
56:14
if I were a piece of crap.
56:16
Because I can a thousand percent do
56:18
these sorts of things. And if I'm
56:20
in a situation where I'm upset, you're
56:23
gonna be like, I will do these
56:25
sorts of things where I have a
56:27
very expressive face, so I can very
56:29
much say one thing and say another
56:31
with my face, whether it's using tones,
56:34
I can use that. Like, if I
56:36
was a terrible person, I would be
56:38
Octavian. So I especially hate him because
56:40
I could see myself becoming this if
56:43
I was not good. This is Dark
56:45
Mike is Octavian. You have to use
56:47
your powers for good. I will, I
56:49
will, I promise. I'll use it for
56:51
talking about podcasts and stuff, not for
56:54
telling people one thing and meeting another.
56:56
But I think that's especially why I
56:58
don't like this guy, because I can
57:00
kind of see myself falling into this
57:02
if I was mean. Now, once Frank
57:05
sits next to Percy, Percy immediately asks,
57:07
did it hurt? Classic, Percy, love this.
57:09
But also, maybe this is just because
57:11
I'm 32, but when someone asks, did
57:14
it hurt, my brain immediately wants to
57:16
go, when you fell from heaven? Oh,
57:18
wow. Just the terrible gross pick-up line.
57:20
The old ones are the old ones.
57:22
But he was talking about the tattoo.
57:25
Frank says, yeah, it hurt a ton,
57:27
which I think is great. his shirt
57:29
so cute so adorable and narrative Percy
57:31
then says quote Percy smiled he'd only
57:33
known Frank for a day but he
57:36
felt proud of him too quote you
57:38
deserve it man he said well you
57:40
did last night natural leadership and I
57:42
like this I like Percy and Frank's
57:45
friendship a lot I think it's great
57:47
yeah they're awesome Frank says that becoming
57:49
a centurion is just a step too
57:51
far and then we learn as they're
57:53
talking that the meeting kept going and
57:56
they weren't paying attention. Octavian hits him
57:58
with a centurion jang. Did you hear
58:00
the question? Which is, I roll-inducing and
58:02
also terror-inducing. This is my biggest fear.
58:04
Just makes me have flashbacks to school
58:07
when you weren't paying attention to an
58:09
important me. Ah, just gross, gross. Oh,
58:11
yeah, this was making me squirm all
58:13
about. Oh, really? I imagine you could
58:16
always talk your way out of those
58:18
situations. I feel like it could, like,
58:20
when I was in school, I just,
58:22
I just, caught doing it. It just
58:24
made me so nervous because you know
58:27
I just want to be a good
58:29
little rule follower boy but I also
58:31
want to make a snarky little joke
58:33
to my friend sitting next to me.
58:35
So this one just like really hit
58:38
me hard. I would have hated that
58:40
too. I was so lawful at school
58:42
so didn't want to be caught up.
58:44
No not at all. Frank obviously has
58:47
no idea what's going on and then
58:49
Octavian gives a look of see told
58:51
you told you to the crowd before
58:53
repeating in an incredibly condescending tone like
58:55
he's speaking to a three year old.
58:58
asking if Frank has a plan for
59:00
the quest or if he even knows
59:02
where they're going. And Frank goes, um,
59:04
meaning he doesn't, but then Hazel steps
59:06
in to back him up and says,
59:09
weren't you listening last night, Octavian? Mars
59:11
was pretty clear. We're going to the
59:13
land beyond the gods. Alaska. So thank
59:15
goodness for Hazel, great stuff from her.
59:18
The senators are nervous, some of the
59:20
ghosts vanish, the metal dogs whimper, and
59:22
then we learn that Senator Larry, which
59:24
is just a fun name of like,
59:26
oh yes, it's me, Senator Larry. It
59:29
really is. So Senator Larry stands up
59:31
and says that he knows this is
59:33
Mars's order, but it's a terrible idea
59:35
because Alaska is cursed and swarming with
59:37
monsters since it's out of the God's
59:40
control. He reminds the crowd that no
59:42
demigod has come back alive since, and
59:44
then Percy jumps in to say, since
59:46
you lost your eagle. And then narrative,
59:49
Percy says, Larry was so startled, he
59:51
fell back on his poetics. Rick Reordan,
59:53
rule of three's, third butt joke, making
59:55
sure that all the but joke, just...
59:57
Yes, I'm covering so on form, so
1:00:00
on form. a comedic perspective. Rick is
1:00:02
just killing it, I'm loving it. Percy
1:00:04
then continues, look, I know I'm new
1:00:06
here, I know you guys don't
1:00:08
like to mention that massacre in
1:00:10
the 1980s, and then someone goes,
1:00:12
he mentioned it! Which, that's gotta
1:00:14
be the, I love formalities thing, right?
1:00:17
I mean... just mentioned the big massacre but
1:00:19
it is so funny this guy just being
1:00:21
like he mentioned it I love it
1:00:23
so fun so fun just really really
1:00:25
good Percy just continues but don't you
1:00:27
get it the fifth cohort led that
1:00:29
expedition we failed and I love that
1:00:31
Percy says we like he loved that
1:00:33
Percy says we like he's already he's
1:00:35
been on the team for a day
1:00:38
and he's already saying we great we
1:00:40
failed and we have to be responsible
1:00:42
for making things right that's why Mars
1:00:44
is sending us sending us this giant
1:00:46
the God and all your old equipment,
1:00:48
he's mustering his armies and sending them
1:00:50
south to attack this camp. So, Percy,
1:00:52
doing a good job. Absolutely, he's getting
1:00:54
people inside, he's using Wii, he has her artory
1:00:56
skills and I love that. He does, he
1:00:58
does. Octavian accuses Percy of knowing too
1:01:00
much about the enemy's plans and it
1:01:02
is so antithetical to who Percy is
1:01:05
to be accused of being a spy
1:01:07
basically that he almost doesn't know how
1:01:09
to handle this insult. He wants to
1:01:11
rage on Octavian, but he recognizes that
1:01:13
this is bait, and he instead takes
1:01:15
a deep breath and calmly states that
1:01:17
they are going to travel to Alaska,
1:01:19
confront the son of Gia, and bring
1:01:22
back the eagle and unchained Thanatos. And
1:01:24
I am so proud of Percy Jackson
1:01:26
for not taking the bait. And this
1:01:28
is something I can totally relate to. The
1:01:30
times that I get the most upset are
1:01:32
when people accuse me of something that is
1:01:34
just so untrue to who I am as
1:01:37
a person. doing something like trying to be
1:01:39
nefarious and all that, like that's when I
1:01:41
get the most upset and I can completely
1:01:43
relate to Percy. Yeah, it's just so far
1:01:45
away, but I'm very proud that he doesn't rise
1:01:47
to it. Very mature of him. Now he checks
1:01:49
with Hazel that the name Thanitus was correct and
1:01:52
Hazel says that's the Greek name, the Roman name
1:01:54
is Letus, but when it comes to death, they're
1:01:56
fine with him being Greek, which I think is
1:01:58
funny like, nah, we're not ever got... to translate
1:02:00
that. We're going to leave him as
1:02:02
than it is. Octavian doesn't believe that
1:02:04
they can complete this quest before the
1:02:06
Feast of Fortuna on the 24th, since
1:02:08
it's already the 20th. And, uh, have
1:02:10
you never had a Percy Jackson book,
1:02:12
my guy? This is a perfect timeline.
1:02:14
We're going to be just fine. We're
1:02:16
going to be just fine. We're going
1:02:18
to be just fine. He asks if
1:02:20
they even know who this son of
1:02:22
Gia is. And Hazel. And that's what
1:02:24
I'm saying before, like metal skin, but
1:02:26
seeming like ice guy feels almost like
1:02:28
not the perfect fit. But I'm intrigued.
1:02:30
It also could just be a figurative
1:02:32
chill. It also could be snowy and
1:02:34
about because he's in Alaska. It might
1:02:36
not be that this guy has ice
1:02:38
powers. But I was thinking ice giant
1:02:40
initially. Yeah, I think we're getting a
1:02:43
lot of kind of cold and person
1:02:45
waking up shivering, which is unusual. Whether
1:02:47
it's due with Alaska, something's up. Exactly.
1:02:49
Rain asks Hazel if she knows this
1:02:51
because she's a daughter of Pluto. And
1:02:53
then Niko stands up and Percy basically
1:02:55
thinks, oh right, Niko, yeah, I forgot
1:02:57
about that guy. And I was like,
1:02:59
yeah, I forgot who's at this meeting
1:03:01
too. He very politely asks if he
1:03:03
can interject and he explains that their
1:03:05
father taught them a bit about the
1:03:07
giants, how each of them was made
1:03:09
to oppose a specific Olympian. He says
1:03:11
that Porphyryon is the anti Jupiter and
1:03:13
the king of the king of the
1:03:15
king of the giant, but Alcyonius is
1:03:17
the eldest giant, but Alcyonius is the
1:03:19
eldest giant, but Als, but Alsionius is
1:03:21
the eldest, and... the Thanatos connection is
1:03:23
even more interesting now. Reina doesn't love
1:03:25
how familiar he sounds with this giant.
1:03:27
Niko continues and explains the god and
1:03:29
demigod requirement to defeat them, which we
1:03:31
all know. Dakota thinks that this will
1:03:33
never happen since he didn't read the
1:03:35
lost hero. Niko states that it did
1:03:37
happen in the first giant war. He
1:03:39
worries that it might not be able
1:03:41
to happen again though with Alcyonius because
1:03:43
he was impossible to kill as long
1:03:45
as he stayed in the place that
1:03:47
he was born. And Niko's worried that
1:03:49
if he was reborn in Alaska and
1:03:51
then Hazle finishes our 1980s expedition was
1:03:53
doomed to fail. There's also just fun
1:03:55
notes. The first time I've ever seen
1:03:57
1980s written out in words, because it
1:03:59
was like 19 in dash 80s, as
1:04:01
opposed to one nine eight zero S.
1:04:03
And I thought that was just a
1:04:05
fun, I just, I don't think I've
1:04:07
ever seen a decade written out in
1:04:10
full word form before. So I just
1:04:12
thought it was interesting. So in my
1:04:14
copy, it's not like that. It's one
1:04:16
nine eight zero with a little S.
1:04:18
Absolutely. Oh, you've got the English, the,
1:04:20
is the cover a spoiler? Should I
1:04:22
not see it? I mean, I think
1:04:24
it's fine. Okay, you're covering whatever's at
1:04:26
the top, but okay. Oh, interesting. It
1:04:28
says this is the stuff of legends.
1:04:30
Does it say half boy, half got
1:04:32
all hero? I guess not, because it's
1:04:34
not the previous series. So is the
1:04:36
heroes of almost one. This is the
1:04:38
stuff of legends. Is that on every
1:04:40
book? Because that's kind of rough. I
1:04:42
think so. It's a guardian quote, but
1:04:44
it just seems so random and vague.
1:04:46
I kind of hate it. Oh man.
1:04:48
I haven't done it yet. I should
1:04:50
do it soon. Normally do like the
1:04:52
Patreon bonus episodes where I like look
1:04:54
at all of the covers and stuff.
1:04:56
So I have not delved into what
1:04:58
do the British covers of the British
1:05:00
covers. So I have not delved into
1:05:02
what do the British covers of the
1:05:04
Here's of Olympus books look like. But
1:05:06
the new so the new international covers
1:05:08
are really cool though like they've been
1:05:10
redoing the covers for the Percy Jackson
1:05:12
books and the new one slap like
1:05:14
that purple and lime green lightning thief
1:05:16
all I recently just saw that and
1:05:18
I bulk bought these and then I
1:05:20
was like oh but they're pretty bought
1:05:22
these and I was like oh but
1:05:24
they're pretty ones right and I've never
1:05:26
been like a buy a book because
1:05:28
the cover of it is pretty guy
1:05:30
but those books made me second guess
1:05:32
it I wonder if they'll make like
1:05:35
poster versions of those like poster versions
1:05:37
of those covers because then I would
1:05:39
put them up in put them up
1:05:41
in put them up in put them
1:05:43
up in the They're really nice. Yeah.
1:05:45
Anyway, this Percy Jackson. So we get
1:05:47
more unrest from the crowd. We get
1:05:49
The Quest is impossible. We're doomed. And
1:05:51
then more cool aid. Smart. Zag on
1:05:53
them. can't do water cannon for a
1:05:55
third time. You gotta make it unsuspecting.
1:05:57
So perfect. God, it feels like Rick
1:05:59
took an improv 101 class. Like, it's
1:06:01
just the fundamentals of comedy in these
1:06:03
two chapters. I was so excited as
1:06:05
a comedy director. I also love that
1:06:07
we've got a ghost saying we're doomed.
1:06:09
It's like, what can happen to you?
1:06:11
You're already dead. That's a really good
1:06:13
point. Raina silences the crowd and says
1:06:15
that if Mars gave the quest, then
1:06:17
it is feasible. She says that this
1:06:19
team must go to safe Thanatos, and
1:06:21
if they get the... And then she
1:06:23
asks Percy, you do have a plan.
1:06:25
And Percy thinks about how he wants
1:06:27
to probably step forth and say, no,
1:06:29
I do not. But he sees the
1:06:31
look of fear in the crowd's faces,
1:06:33
so he doesn't do that. Instead, he
1:06:35
says, first I got fear in the
1:06:37
crowd's faces, so he doesn't do that.
1:06:39
Instead, he says, first I got to
1:06:41
understand something. He turns to Nico and
1:06:43
says that he's confused, because they thought
1:06:45
that they make fun of it in
1:06:47
Haiti's the video game. And Niko explains
1:06:49
that Pluto is the god of the
1:06:51
underworld, not death. Thanatosis is the god
1:06:53
of death, like Pluto's lieutenant. He makes
1:06:55
sure that souls go to the afterlife
1:06:57
and that they stay there. And then
1:06:59
he continues by saying, quote, he's like,
1:07:02
well, imagine life and death are two
1:07:04
different countries. Everybody would like to be
1:07:06
in life, right? So there's a guarded
1:07:08
border to keep people from crossing back
1:07:10
over without permission. But it's a big
1:07:12
border with lots of holes in the
1:07:14
fence. Pluto tries to seal up the
1:07:16
breeches, but new ones keep popping up
1:07:18
all the all the time. That's why
1:07:20
he depends on Thanatos, who's like the
1:07:22
border patrol, the police. You had me
1:07:24
until the end there. You had me
1:07:26
until the end. And I know that
1:07:28
in 2012 or whenever this book was
1:07:30
read, it was a different time. But
1:07:32
now border patrol and police, very coded
1:07:34
to be different. I'm going to just
1:07:36
ignore this and continue to envision Thanatos
1:07:38
as the moody, extremely attractive, punk, emobile,
1:07:40
from Haiti's the video game. Yes, okay.
1:07:42
Did you also play Haiti's a video
1:07:44
game too? Okay, so nothing about it.
1:07:46
I have. It's very good. Can't get
1:07:48
it yet, but I love pages of
1:07:50
video game, and we've got a couple
1:07:52
of Hedges video game characters right on
1:07:54
this page. Do you mean you can't
1:07:56
get it yet, like physically, or just
1:07:58
like you're not in a point where
1:08:00
you can play? Because it is available
1:08:02
on Mac now, if that was your
1:08:04
point where you can't, because you're not
1:08:06
in a point where you can play?
1:08:08
Because it is available on Mac now?
1:08:10
Because you're not in a point where
1:08:12
you're not in a point where you're
1:08:14
not in a point where you're not
1:08:16
in a point where you're not in
1:08:18
a point where you're not in a
1:08:20
point where you're not in a point
1:08:22
where you're not in a point where
1:08:24
you're not in a point where you're
1:08:27
not in a point where you're not
1:08:29
in a point where you're not in
1:08:31
a point where you're not in a
1:08:33
point where you're not in a point
1:08:35
where you're not in a point where
1:08:37
you're not in a point where I
1:08:39
don't necessarily usually have very clear images
1:08:41
of characters. My characters are usually more
1:08:43
of like vague, nondescript, just kind of
1:08:45
like what they're describing. So like when
1:08:47
it's like is exactly described someone's hairstyle,
1:08:49
like I will imagine that, but like
1:08:51
a face to me is usually more
1:08:53
like not necessarily sharply defined. But every
1:08:55
time they're saying Thanatos, I'm just imagining
1:08:57
the guy from 80s the video game
1:08:59
like he's clear as he's exact that
1:09:01
image chained up. So I think that's
1:09:03
a fun like thing going on in
1:09:05
my brain when I'm reading in my
1:09:07
brain when I'm reading when I'm reading
1:09:09
these books. So, as much of a
1:09:11
joke I want to make about like
1:09:13
bordered patrol and police, like, this does
1:09:15
make sense, and Niko does paint a
1:09:17
very clear picture here, so I get
1:09:19
it. Percy then says, quote, Thanatos catches
1:09:21
souls and deports them back to the
1:09:23
underworld, and Niko confirms, but... says, yeah,
1:09:25
he's chained up now. Frank, who has
1:09:27
spoken very little for someone who's supposed
1:09:29
to be leading this quest, asks, how
1:09:31
does one chain up death? And I
1:09:33
wrote, oh, oh, Sesifis did it, and
1:09:35
Niko says that it's been done before,
1:09:37
citing Sesifis. He also says that it's
1:09:39
been done before, citing Sesifis. He also
1:09:41
says that Hercules wrestled him to the
1:09:43
ground, which I don't know if Hercules
1:09:45
wrestled him to the dead. And also,
1:09:47
He turns to Gwen and says, no
1:09:49
offense. So funny. Oh, that's so good.
1:09:51
Poor Gwen. She's going to be fine.
1:09:54
She's going to go to college. It's
1:09:56
going to be all right. She's going
1:09:58
to open a bakery. She'll make croissants.
1:10:00
It'll be great. They'll look just like
1:10:02
the metals. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Nico says
1:10:04
that it's more complicated than that. And
1:10:06
then Octavian rolls his eyes. Rinaina ignores
1:10:08
Octavian being a little jerk. and guesses
1:10:10
that Nico is referring to the doors
1:10:12
of death, which is in the prophecy
1:10:14
of the seven, which sparked the failed
1:10:16
Alaska expedition. And then Cato, that goes
1:10:18
from before, goes, we all know how
1:10:20
that turned out. So good. Kind of
1:10:22
like Cato. And then there's lots of
1:10:24
ghostly grumbling, but then Nico makes a
1:10:26
shush sign, putting his finger over his
1:10:28
lips, and they all go silent, but
1:10:30
they go silent against their will, like
1:10:32
their mouths were glued or glued were
1:10:34
glued together. Nice. Nice. Then narrative, Percy
1:10:36
says, quote, Percy wished he had that
1:10:38
power over certain living people, like Octavian,
1:10:40
for instance. Very good. Very, very, very,
1:10:42
very good. Niko says that Thanatos is
1:10:44
only part of the solution. The other,
1:10:46
the doors of death, is a concept
1:10:48
that even he doesn't fully grasp. Says
1:10:50
there's many ways into the underworld, like
1:10:52
the river sticks, the dwarforpheus, dwarfius, and
1:10:54
smaller escape routes will be easier to
1:10:56
use with Thanatos chained up. in the
1:10:58
knot, it will be for evil folks.
1:11:00
The doors of death are the personal
1:11:02
doors of Thanatos, and only he is
1:11:04
supposed to know their location, which changes
1:11:06
over time. His understanding is that the
1:11:08
doors have been forced open, and Gia's
1:11:10
minions are controlling them. Percy guesses that
1:11:12
this means that Gia can control who
1:11:14
comes back from the dead, and Nico
1:11:16
confirms, and I'm wondering, is Gwen secretly
1:11:18
some sort of nefarious choice? Or was
1:11:21
this just someone who like slipped through
1:11:23
the cracks of Gia and was just...
1:11:25
done so that we don't have to
1:11:27
worry about the death of Gwen and
1:11:29
it's a way for people to learn
1:11:31
more about the doors of death thing.
1:11:33
That's what I'm thinking it is. I'm
1:11:35
probably just over thinking it here. But
1:11:37
there's now a non-zero chance that Gia
1:11:39
was like, ah, Gwen, you will turn
1:11:41
over to my side. So, Nico says
1:11:43
that Gia can pick and choose to
1:11:45
let out the biggest and the badest
1:11:47
and rescuing Thanatos means that he can
1:11:49
catch souls and send them back. The
1:11:51
monsters will behave as they normally did
1:11:53
as they'll just keep coming back. Frank
1:11:55
asks since Thanatos knows where the doors
1:11:57
are, can't he just retake them over
1:11:59
once he's freed? Niko says that he's
1:12:01
no match for Gia. Instead, that would
1:12:03
require a massive quest. and an army
1:12:05
of the best demigods, and that sounds
1:12:07
like book five to me. And I'm
1:12:09
wondering, are we really going to save
1:12:11
Thanatos in book two? And then he's
1:12:13
just going to like not do anything
1:12:15
for two books. I'm no, no. I'm
1:12:17
intrigued to see like how he fits
1:12:19
into the bigger picture of the whole
1:12:21
five book series as opposed to just
1:12:23
this individual book. Rayna recounts the foes
1:12:25
bear arm to the doors of death
1:12:27
line from the prophecy and the prophecy.
1:12:29
And Reyna says that if they kick
1:12:31
off the ancient prophecy, they don't have
1:12:33
the bodies to have an army there
1:12:35
and an army protecting camp. So Percy
1:12:37
tries to sound as confident as possible
1:12:39
to quell the rising tension in the
1:12:41
room, and he says that they must
1:12:43
free Thanatos first. He recounts that Mars
1:12:46
said that only three were needed for
1:12:48
the quest, so they'll tackle that. The
1:12:50
rest can stay back and defend, and
1:12:52
the doors of death can be worried
1:12:54
about later. Frank says that yeah that
1:12:56
sounds like enough for one week and
1:12:58
then Octavian says so you do have
1:13:00
a plan and Percy looks at the
1:13:02
team and says we go to Alaska
1:13:04
as fast as possible and then hazel
1:13:06
ads and we improvise and Frank concludes
1:13:08
a lot so. Pretty good. And they
1:13:10
already are improvising together. So this is
1:13:12
very positive. Yes, it's good. Narrative Percy
1:13:14
then says, quote, Reyna studied them. She
1:13:16
looked like she was mentally writing her
1:13:18
own obituary. Very good. Reyna says it's
1:13:20
good enough and all that's left is
1:13:22
voting on what resources to provide. And
1:13:24
Octavian interjects here in Percy Motors. Oh,
1:13:26
great. Here it comes. Fantastic. Octavian says
1:13:28
the two gods have warned about an
1:13:30
attack coming in four days, so spreading
1:13:32
out the resources is a bad idea.
1:13:34
Then he says, which I thought this
1:13:36
guy was a jerk, but I didn't
1:13:38
know who's going to stoop this low.
1:13:40
He says that Mars perhaps chose these
1:13:42
three, the least likely candidates for this
1:13:44
quest, because they're likely candidates for this
1:13:46
quest because they are expendable, thinking Mars
1:13:48
is playing some sort of long game.
1:13:50
He says they should keep the resources
1:13:52
at camp because that's where the battle
1:13:54
will be won. thinking the three of
1:13:56
them have become a very convincing no
1:13:58
one believed in us and no one
1:14:00
like this and the cars are against
1:14:02
us case. I'd said earlier that it
1:14:04
didn't really feel believable that Percy was
1:14:06
unlike to camp just from like jealousy
1:14:08
and stuff but like it does genuinely
1:14:10
feel like for lots of different reasons
1:14:13
people don't like these three and they
1:14:15
don't like what's happening with the quest
1:14:17
and they're not confident in it and
1:14:19
I feel like it's very convincing but
1:14:21
Octavian what a jerk oh yeah it's
1:14:23
so horrible oh don't like it all
1:14:25
really not a fan but That means
1:14:27
he's a perfectly crafted villain. So Frank
1:14:29
then gets up to fight Octavian, but
1:14:31
Percy stops him and just yells, fine,
1:14:33
no problem, and says that all they
1:14:35
really need is transportation and something that
1:14:37
won't travel by land. And yeah, we
1:14:39
got to get in the water, baby,
1:14:41
come on, let's get in that water.
1:14:43
Octavian scoffs, would you like us to
1:14:45
charter in an airplane? And I wrote,
1:14:47
no, he hates the sky. And then
1:14:49
Percy says, No, air travel. I have
1:14:51
a feeling that would be bad too.
1:14:53
But a boat. Can you at least
1:14:55
give us a boat? And then Hazel
1:14:57
moans and Percy looks at her, but
1:14:59
then she mouths fine. I'm fine. So
1:15:01
we'll learn about this in a couple
1:15:03
of chapters. And then Octavian says, a
1:15:05
boat. The son of Neptune wants a
1:15:07
boat. Sea travel has never been the
1:15:09
Roman. But he isn't much of a
1:15:11
Roman. And Rayna kind of. puts him
1:15:13
in his place a little bit saying
1:15:15
that Percy's not asking for much and
1:15:17
giving them nothing is very but then
1:15:19
Octavian interrupts to say traditional says that
1:15:21
they should see if these three can
1:15:23
survive without any help like true Romans
1:15:25
this guy is really like ramping up
1:15:27
this suck factor a lot he really
1:15:29
sucks luckily Rayna is that to rein
1:15:31
him in a little bit well done
1:15:33
well done well done the crowd gross
1:15:35
restless Rayna says that they'll put it
1:15:38
to a vote Quote, senators, the motion
1:15:40
is as follows, the question will go
1:15:42
to Alaska. The Senate shall provide full
1:15:44
access to the Roman Navy, docked at
1:15:46
Alameda. No other aid will be forthcoming.
1:15:48
The three adventurers will survive or fail
1:15:50
on their own merits, all in favor.
1:15:52
And thank goodness, every senator votes all
1:15:54
in favor. And thank goodness, every senator
1:15:56
votes yes. So the motion passes. Raina
1:15:58
excuses the team, since the Senate has
1:16:00
other matters to discuss, but then asks
1:16:02
Octavian for a word. And I was
1:16:04
pretty much toast. And Frank says that
1:16:06
he wouldn't fault them for backing out
1:16:08
now. But Hazel replies, are you kidding?
1:16:10
And pulls Century Duty for the rest
1:16:12
of the week, which is great and
1:16:14
cute and adorable. Frank smiles, then turns
1:16:16
to Percy. Percy thinks about the dreams
1:16:18
telling him to stay. But then he
1:16:20
imagines Gieshing that he screwed either way.
1:16:22
So then narrative Percy says, quote, Percy
1:16:24
made a sign of out. After the
1:16:26
Feast of Fortuna, he would find Anabith.
1:16:28
But for now, he had to act.
1:16:30
He couldn't let Gia win. And I
1:16:32
love him. I knew he was going
1:16:34
to do this, but I love him
1:16:36
for doing it. He's a true hero
1:16:38
through and through, and he can't just
1:16:40
let it go. It's like me playing
1:16:42
an RPG. I got to do all
1:16:44
the side quests. I have to help
1:16:46
everyone. Even if it's like, I will
1:16:48
find your cat. And I will save
1:16:50
it. I love that he is not
1:16:52
taking the selfish approach. He's going to
1:16:54
help the team and try to save
1:16:56
the camp. Yeah, he's such a team
1:16:58
player. I really think they're a very
1:17:00
strong three already. It's great. They are.
1:17:02
I feel really great about this three.
1:17:05
Percy says that he's in and adds
1:17:07
that seeing the Roman Navy will be
1:17:09
a cool bonus. And then Octavian calls
1:17:11
after them and jogs to catch up.
1:17:13
Percy goes, what do you want? Octavian
1:17:15
smiles and says, already decided I'm your
1:17:17
enemy? Yes, yes, it's quite clear. It
1:17:19
is quite clear. Frank calls him a
1:17:21
backstabbing, and I thought he was going
1:17:23
to say, backstabbing, hold him back, very
1:17:25
NDA fight-esque. And Octavian says that this
1:17:27
is unfitting behavior of a centurion, which,
1:17:29
okay, just a big fart noise over
1:17:31
here. Like, he sucks. And he explains
1:17:33
that he is here because Reina has
1:17:35
a message for Percy. He wants him
1:17:37
to meet her in the Principia without
1:17:39
his quote, lackies here, gross, disgusting, so
1:17:41
rude. He says that she'll meet him
1:17:43
there after the Senate meeting, so this
1:17:45
is gonna be what the next two
1:17:47
chapters are, I'm guessing. That was the
1:17:49
last time I ever saw him. Good
1:17:51
looking, goodbye, Percy Jackson. He sucks so
1:17:53
much. I love it. I love how
1:17:55
much he sucks. He's perfectly hateable. He's
1:17:57
very much like, who's the freaking guy
1:17:59
that you fight. with the ball in
1:18:01
Hades video anymore. Theseus. Theseus. You have
1:18:03
it with the constant taunting and what
1:18:05
you really like the minor talks. He
1:18:07
seems like a decent guy and there's
1:18:09
just this jerk. He's so perfectly hateable.
1:18:11
Octavian is so deliciously hateable. He's perfectly crafted.
1:18:14
I love how much I hate him. And
1:18:16
that is the end of Chapter 14, which
1:18:18
I have retitled, We Win an Election. Oh,
1:18:20
very good. Again, maybe inspired by the current
1:18:23
events going on. But I just thought that
1:18:25
was a good, like, misdirect of what was
1:18:27
going on. Do you have a retitling of
1:18:29
Chapter 14? I went for the Senate condemners
1:18:31
to almost certain death. Oh, that's very
1:18:34
fun. That's good, especially because the ending of
1:18:36
Frank's last chapter was that he was given
1:18:38
a death sentence. So to play on that
1:18:40
is very, very fun. Cool, well, that's the
1:18:42
end of this chapter, it's the end of
1:18:44
this episode. Beth, thank you so much for
1:18:46
joining in making your team no debut. I'm
1:18:48
sure the first of many episodes with you,
1:18:51
this was very, very fun. Thank you so
1:18:53
much for having me. It's been great. Of
1:18:55
course, if people want to find you doing
1:18:57
stuff, where can they find
1:18:59
you doing stuff? You're doing
1:19:01
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1:19:03
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1:19:06
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1:19:10
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1:19:17
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1:19:20
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1:19:43
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1:19:45
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1:19:47
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1:19:49
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