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tonight's guest. It's Dr. Stephen Para.
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sweet.
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Is it going? It's going good. Yes,
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I asked you at the perfect opportune
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moment when you were farthest away in
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your hands were the most full of
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items. But hello Doylestown! Okay, so who's
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here that has never listened to the
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podcast and is like dragged along by
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someone? Okay, cool, sweet, so. In a
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very early episode of the show, they
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gave us the longitude and the latitude
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of the Bermuda Triangle, and I mistyped
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it in my notes. And what I
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got was Doylestown, Pennsylvania. So I said,
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if I ever do shows in Philly,
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I will call it Doyles Town. And
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here we are. It has led to
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confusion where multiple people were saying, oh
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yeah, your show tonight's right outside of
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Philly, right? I'm like, no, no, no,
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it's like, in Philly proper. It's like,
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10 minutes away from the Amtrak Station,
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from the Amtrak Station. It is quite
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from the Amtrak Station. It is quite
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close, it is quite close, I promise,
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I promise, I promise, I promise, I
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promise, I promise, I promise, I promise,
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I promise. glad everyone made it despite
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any potential confusion. I'm also very excited
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that, who's at the Philly show last
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year? Yeah, at that other venue, where
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it was so hot, it was so
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warm, people were fanning themselves like southern
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bells, and myself included, I'm glad we
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don't have to do that, not only
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because I don't have to sweat on
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stage, but it also allows me to
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wear the Wawa sweater, which I was
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very excited. I did bring a change
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of clothes, like just in case it
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was not going to be cold enough,
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but it is cold enough so I
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can rep my favorite convenience store. Stephen,
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how many Wawa did you pass on
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the drive over to? I don't know,
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but I learned very thoroughly from all
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the billboards that Wawa now has pizza.
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I love Wawa with all my heart.
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I will defend many things from Wawa.
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I do not think I will be
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getting Wawa pizza. As much as I
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love Wawa and their chocolate milk, which,
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God, God, it's so good. God, it's
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so good. So many good things from
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Wawa, I may or may not badger
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you into having to stop by one
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on the drive home. We gotta get
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gas, so I guess we're going. Yes!
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We're gonna get chocolate milk, and we're
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gonna get, it's like, my favorite thing
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about Wawa chocolate milk, it's like, oh,
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you can get the one size, you
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can get the next size, it's like
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for three cents more, you can get
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half a gallon, like obviously, obviously, obviously,
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I could talk about Wawa for two
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hours, but you all purchase tickets for
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me to me to me to me
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to me to talk about books for
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me to talk about books for me
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to talk about books, so I. I
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guess I will do that instead. Now,
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what we're gonna be talking about today
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is at least chapters 15 and 16
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of the Sun of Neptune, possibly chapter
4:34
17, depending on how quickly we get
4:36
through things. But where we last left
4:38
our heroes, the quest was getting ready.
4:40
to begin, and Percy was about to
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go on a private chat with Rayna
4:44
after the big Senate meeting, and that
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is where we leave off. So, chapter
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15 is called Percy. Obviously, we will
4:51
re-title it by the time we get
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to the end of it, but this
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chapter opens with quote, Percy was glad
4:57
Rittide returned to his pocket judging from
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Rayna's expression. He thought he might need
5:01
to defend himself, and thank goodness. You
5:03
all are well aware that I get
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so stressed. Whenever Riptide is not back,
5:07
and I just am so delighted that
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this chapter opened with it, don't worry,
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he's good, the pen is in the
5:14
pocket. Fell very happy. Good thing to
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start off. Good thing to read yesterday
5:18
morning in prep. It was a nice
5:20
change of pace from existential threat. Okay,
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I promise her down, I promise her
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down, I promise her down. Reina enters
5:26
the room at a huff, and she
5:28
is followed by her metal dogs. Percy
5:30
is sitting in one of the prey
5:33
tour chairs that he really wanted to
5:35
sit in last time, but he did
5:37
decide to sit in this time. And
5:39
he's worried that he shouldn't be there,
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so when she gets in, he starts
5:43
to get up like, oh, I'm so
5:45
sorry. And he's like, no, no, no,
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stay seated, because we have a lot
5:49
to discuss. But seriously, Percy, if you're
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gonna react that way. Oh, that is
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a lot of effort if you're gonna,
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maybe he thought she was gonna take
5:58
a longer time between. He was like,
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I've got enough time to sit and
6:02
relax before she comes back. So, maybe
6:04
that was that. So she slams her
6:06
dagger down on the table and it
6:08
makes the bowl of jelly beans jostle
6:10
around. And now this is the second
6:12
time where these jelly beans have been
6:14
referenced, but not explained. And, spoiler alert
6:16
for the rest of this chapter. They
6:18
don't get explained. If these are like
6:21
I don't know man, I'm I feel
6:23
like they're checkoffs jelly beans But like
6:25
are they just jelly beans on a
6:27
table? That's wild who just has jelly?
6:29
on a table. I don't know, Dumboldor?
6:31
I guess, but yeah, no, yeah, yeah,
6:33
but they're like fun jelly beans. I
6:35
don't know, jelly beans on a table
6:37
is a wild vibe unless you're like
6:39
a 95 year old grandma, but... Rain
6:41
has got them, she jostles them around
6:44
by slamming her dagger down, and she
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is upset at the whole Senate meeting.
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And she's specifically upset at Octavian for
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getting into his whole talking spiel and
6:52
just generally being himself. Percy says quote
6:54
you're a warrior Octavian is a talker
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put him in front of the Senate
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and suddenly he becomes the powerful one
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and She tells Percy that he's smarter
7:02
than he looks and he says gee
7:04
thanks which is correct Because she is
7:07
telling him you look like an idiot.
7:09
I don't understand like I don't know
7:11
maybe it's a weird attempted compliment like
7:13
you don't look like a nerd, but
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like that's also a mean thing to
7:17
say I don't really know, but I
7:19
have noticed like through these early chapters,
7:21
that Rick has kind of made a
7:23
point for other people to point out,
7:25
like, hey, you're kind of smart. Yeah.
7:27
It is fun to like slowly see
7:29
people who don't know Percy, learn Percy,
7:32
and that is a nice revelation for
7:34
them, and it's also just a nice
7:36
change of pace for us, because obviously
7:38
we know Percy, but these people, they
7:40
don't. After saying gee thanks, he says
7:42
that he hears that Octavian is trying
7:44
to be elected Praetor if the camp
7:46
even survives this battle. And Rana uses
7:48
this comment as a nice segue into
7:50
discussing how Percy can fit into the
7:52
whole thing and saving them from the
7:55
looming battle. Rana says, quote, but before
7:57
I place the fate of Camp Jupiter
7:59
in your hands, we need to get
8:01
a few things straight. And then she
8:03
puts her ring on the table and
8:05
points to the inscription on it. what
8:07
that means and he guesses that it's
8:09
the symbol of her mother the war
8:11
goddess and then his narrator Percy he
8:13
can't remember what the war goddess his
8:15
name is he says quote something like
8:18
baloney or salami and thank goodness this
8:20
was an internal thought because right afterwards
8:22
Rayna responds, Balona, yes, B-L-L-O-N-A, Balona, yes.
8:24
It's just very good comedic writing from
8:26
Rick to have the internal monologue of
8:28
like, what's it, like Baloney? And then
8:30
the person be like, you are correct.
8:32
It's like, all right, because he didn't
8:34
actually guess them out last so good.
8:36
I think Rick, in this whole book,
8:38
is really doing well, but like, specifically
8:41
with the Percy chapters, comedic knowledge of
8:43
writing. It's just like as like a
8:45
nerd of it in terms of doing
8:47
like improv and descriptive stuff and all
8:49
that like obviously like when something is
8:51
funny it's just funny but I feel
8:53
like the specific like me just being
8:55
like I see what he's doing there
8:57
like I understand the science of this
8:59
joke he's really cooking and I like
9:01
it a lot. And it's fun that
9:04
you say cooking because I've noticed for
9:06
so many of these they're all food
9:08
puns. Mmm. Like you have you have
9:10
You have a feast for tuna? Yeah,
9:12
and there is a good amount of
9:14
food fun's going on. That's true, that's
9:16
true. Rayna is surprised that Percy, one,
9:18
doesn't know where he has seen this
9:20
ring before, and two, who she is,
9:22
and three, who her sister Hila, H-Y-L-L-A,
9:24
I'll have to ask Dr. Moith, this
9:26
is anything, but I think it's just
9:29
like a name, Hilla is, and I
9:31
also don't know these people. So maybe
9:33
this is what Percy was up to
9:35
before the book began. Maybe this was
9:37
no, this is what the sea of
9:39
monsters. Okay, Hila showed up. I don't
9:41
know about Hila. Yeah, because I didn't
9:43
bother to Google that. I think we
9:45
start to learn like what's going on
9:47
right. But I did. I think we
9:49
start to learn like what's going on
9:52
right. But I did Google. But I
9:54
did Google. But do you think I
9:56
would bring that up? I cannot. I
9:58
got burned by, thankfully it was like
10:00
after I'd already learned it, but like,
10:02
I'm pretty sure if you Google George
10:04
Weasley, I think, or no, Fred dies.
10:06
Sp boilerly. I think when you Google
10:08
Fred Weasley, like. it's enough soon enough
10:10
on like the description like that Google
10:12
auto populates that it's like Fred Weasley
10:15
who died in the Battle of Hogwarts
10:17
like why is that the first thing
10:19
said about him so yeah I I
10:21
just can I can never Google anything
10:23
as I'm terrified but I at least
10:25
at this point in reading was wondering
10:27
like who's this what's going on I'm
10:29
confused and then we learn a little
10:31
bit more as the chapters go on
10:33
yeah I did check okay and Like
10:35
Rick spoke about this on sort of
10:38
Q&A, and he's like, she was there
10:40
the way Nico was in the Lotus
10:42
Cotell and Casino, what we see in
10:44
the first book. But we didn't have
10:46
a thing where we met Reina or
10:48
Hila or like they were, like they
10:50
were there, but it wasn't like, hello,
10:52
this is my assistant Reina, etc. Not
10:54
for Reina, I couldn't tell you Hill,
10:56
I didn't check. But I feel like
10:58
I would have. picked up on a
11:00
unique name like that, or either of
11:03
their names, honestly. So to me, it
11:05
was new, but we'll get a little
11:07
bit as it goes. So Rayna tells
11:09
him that it would have been four
11:11
years ago, and then Percy instinctively says,
11:13
before you came to camp. And Rayna
11:15
is surprised that he knew this, but
11:17
Percy is surprised that he knew this,
11:19
but Percy explains, well, you have four
11:21
very large stripes on your arms, and
11:23
each stripe for a year at his
11:26
memories. She says that she was a
11:28
little girl and attendant among many at
11:30
the spa. And she says that he
11:32
spoke with her sister just before he
11:34
and Annabith destroyed their home. So my
11:36
guess at this point was, okay, spa
11:38
book two, Circe's Island? Like it's the
11:40
only thing that I could think of.
11:42
And then narrator Percy says, quote, Percy
11:44
tried to remember, he really did. For
11:46
some reason, Annabeth and he had visited
11:49
a spa and decided to destroy it
11:51
and decided to destroy it. So I
11:53
like that Percy's not even questioning the
11:55
manicure, but he is saying like I
11:57
would never stand for a bad one.
11:59
Standards, I like it. But yeah, at
12:01
this point it fell to me, Searcy's
12:03
Island-esque, and then as this. goes on
12:05
we'll see another clue that makes me
12:07
think it's that but I still don't
12:09
think we like met them directly but
12:12
especially if you're saying then you go
12:14
yeah you know it's like that makes
12:16
sense here's weird for me because this
12:18
is the first time I'm coming through
12:20
these books with you where I am
12:22
no further ahead than you are what
12:24
a fun situation I am just spitballing
12:26
here but yeah to me it seemed
12:28
screaming sea of monsters yes yes yes
12:30
yes Percy says that he truly does
12:32
not know what happened, and he cites
12:34
your dogs who chew up people who
12:37
lie are currently not chewing me up.
12:39
So I think we're good, yeah? And
12:41
she says that she believes him, but
12:43
she says that not everyone at camp
12:45
trusts him. She reveals him. And she
12:47
says that not everyone at camp trusts
12:49
him. She reveals that Octavian thinks that
12:51
he was a spy sent by Gia
12:53
to learn their weaknesses and distracts. Goes...
12:55
What old legends? And then... She explains
12:57
that some people believe the Greek demigods
13:00
still exist, and they follow the older
13:02
forms of the Olympians. And the legends
13:04
tell tales of battles between Greek and
13:06
Roman demigods as recently as the American
13:08
Civil War. She has no proof that
13:10
this happened. The layers, if they know
13:12
something, they're not telling anyone. But Octavian,
13:14
however, believes and thinks that the Greeks
13:16
are plotting their downfall and working alongside
13:18
Gia. And Octavian sucks. All my homies
13:20
hate him. And... I am a homey,
13:23
I hate him. Yeah. Just proving time
13:25
and time again, this dude is the
13:27
worst. Percy asks if this is what
13:29
she believes, which I think is a
13:31
nice response for him to be like,
13:33
whatever, this guy, but what it, do
13:35
you believe this? And she says that
13:37
she thinks that Percy came from somewhere,
13:39
but she's not necessarily sure of where.
13:41
She recognizes Percy's importance and how dangerous
13:43
he is, because she saw everything that
13:46
he's done in his like couple of
13:48
hours at camp. And she's also not
13:50
ignorant to the fact that two gods
13:52
have taken special interest in him, so
13:54
she doesn't think that Percy's going to
13:56
be the one to fight against Olympus.
13:58
or Rome feels like they have a
14:00
vested interest and a bit of a
14:02
trust in him. She thinks that it's
14:04
possible that the God sent Percy as
14:06
a test of her judgment, but her
14:09
belief is that Percy's here to make
14:11
up for the loss of Jason. So
14:13
I think Reina, who I'm liking more
14:15
and more as the chapters go on,
14:17
I feel like she's got a very
14:19
level head and she's doing a good
14:21
job of like not getting caught up
14:23
in any sort of emotion, whether that's
14:25
her personal emotion or the overall just
14:27
like panic level of the camp, feels
14:29
like she's thinking about things logically and
14:31
reasoning them through. And I think that's
14:34
good to have in the prior tour.
14:36
Oh, definitely. And for someone having to
14:38
shoulder all that responsibility by herself for
14:40
like eight months. doing a really admirable
14:42
job of it. Right, especially because she's
14:44
a teenager. Yeah, like that's super not
14:46
easy. My gosh, like I had a
14:48
hard enough time just doing my homework.
14:50
I gotta run a camp? Yeah, yeah,
14:52
I know it. Percy thinks as to
14:54
how this guy Jason gets brought up
14:57
all the time at camp and it's
14:59
very reminiscent of Jason in the last
15:01
year where he's like, wow, they sure
15:03
do talk about this Percy guy a
15:05
lot. So I thought that was pretty
15:07
funny. And then Percy asks Reina if
15:09
they were an item based on how
15:11
she speaks of him. So Percy just
15:13
plowing through, never afraid to ask a
15:15
bit of a touchy question. and I
15:17
was very, very relieved at her answer.
15:20
She says, quote, we might have been
15:22
given time. Pray tours work closely together.
15:24
It's common for them to become romantically
15:26
involved, but Jason was only prey to
15:28
her for a few months before he
15:30
disappeared. Ever since then, Octavian has been
15:32
pestering me, agitating for new elections. I've
15:34
resisted. I need a partner in power,
15:36
but I'd prefer someone like Jason, a
15:38
warrior, a warrior, a warrior, not a
15:40
schemer. and I do feel like Reina
15:43
is level-headed enough to be chill with
15:45
it. Like she might still be sad,
15:47
she might still be hurt. But if
15:49
Jason comes back and says, I've had
15:51
this wonderful adventure with this girl and
15:53
I really like her, I'm so sorry
15:55
to my maybe, I guess, kind of
15:57
we would maybe in the future date
15:59
girlfriend. Like, it's such low stakes that
16:01
I feel like even if Reina is
16:03
saddened, she will understand. and the situation,
16:05
so I feel like there's not gonna
16:08
be a lot of her feelings, which
16:10
makes me feel happy. Oh my gosh,
16:12
I can just say like, I don't
16:14
know. I mean, I mean, I mean
16:16
it. We didn't even have to install
16:18
the trap door. You're just, you're just
16:20
good. You're good. You're good. You're good.
16:22
You're just good. You're just good. But
16:24
I, yeah, ultimately, I don't think she's
16:26
going to think this is some sort
16:28
of grand betrayal if you shows up
16:31
with Piper. So I think it's going
16:33
to think this is some sort of
16:35
grand betrayal if you shows up with
16:37
Piper if you show. For me, it
16:39
is my literal job. Percy says nothing.
16:41
And then it dawns on him that
16:43
this was a silent invitation talking about
16:45
Praetor and all this kind of stuff.
16:47
So he goes, oh, you mean, oh.
16:49
Right? She's like, hey, it could happen
16:51
for us too. Yeah. And by doing
16:54
that, it also kind of puts a
16:56
little thing of like, hmm, Octavian pestering
16:58
for it. Like, that's kind of a
17:00
weird vibe too of like, I don't
17:02
know, makes it, like, he's already, like,
17:04
he's already, like, he's already terrible. Like,
17:06
he's already terrible, and terrible, too, of
17:08
like, I don't know, makes, like, like,
17:10
he's already, like, like, like he's, like,
17:12
like he's, like he's, like he's, like,
17:14
like he's, like, like, like, like, like,
17:17
like, like he's, like, like, like, like,
17:19
like, like, like, like, like, like, like,
17:21
like, like, like, like, like, like, like,
17:23
like, like, like, like, like, like, like,
17:25
like, like, like, like, like, like, he's,
17:27
Yeah, yeah, no. God, he's really creepy.
17:29
Yeah, I didn't, I didn't feel good
17:31
about that one. No, I don't feel
17:33
good about him at all, but we
17:35
can at least all have a unified
17:37
hatred of one character and we can
17:39
all bond. But Reina says that she
17:42
thinks the gods sent Percy to help
17:44
her. She doesn't understand his arrival any
17:46
more than she did four years ago,
17:48
but she thinks it's some sort of
17:50
repayment. Percy destroyed her home once, and
17:52
now he is here to save her
17:54
new home. She states that she holds
17:56
no grudges for Percy, even though her
17:58
sister still does. She says that fate
18:00
brought her to Camp Jupiter, and things
18:02
have gone pretty well for her ever
18:05
since she's gotten here, her only request
18:07
is that Percy will work with her
18:09
work with her to better the camp
18:11
going forward. So again. I like her
18:13
as the leader of Camp Jupiter. She's
18:15
a good egg. Percy agrees to help,
18:17
but suggests that someone with more camp
18:19
Jupiter experience would make a better prey
18:21
tour. Hey, Hazel and Frank are going
18:23
on the quest with me. Maybe they
18:25
could be a little bit better. At
18:28
this point in my notes, I wrote,
18:30
yeah, the vibes of this, where you
18:32
are maybe gonna date rain, just makes
18:34
the already awkward, even more awkward, because
18:36
it's not just like, hello person who's
18:38
been a camp for a day. Would
18:40
you like to run the camp soon,
18:42
the camp soon, and... element. But in
18:44
response to the proposal of Frank or
18:46
Hazel, Reina says that no one's going
18:48
to follow a child of Pluto and
18:51
Frank is too inexperienced and if people
18:53
found out about his tattered family history
18:55
that would be bad and risking that
18:57
is too high of a risk. And
18:59
then Percy goes, what, what family history?
19:01
I'm so sorry what? And then Reina
19:03
goes, the point is Percy! Ah! Chiron
19:05
got to her! Coast to coast! He's
19:07
so good! The point is, Percy, you
19:09
are the real power of this quest.
19:11
You are a seasoned veteran. I've seen
19:13
what you can do. Just completely zagging
19:16
over the question. Gosh, gosh, well done.
19:18
But like ultimately, yeah, it's more fun
19:20
if we learn about this later, but
19:22
also, ah! She says that a son
19:24
of Neptune wouldn't be her top choice,
19:26
but she thinks that he can save
19:28
the legion and then the proprietorship would
19:30
easily be his if he wanted it.
19:32
She says that the two of them
19:34
together could expand from power, raise an
19:36
army, find the doors of death, and
19:39
defeat Gia. And then she says, you
19:41
would find me a very helpful, dot,
19:43
dot, dot, dot, friend. Which
19:45
is a weird thing to say narrative
19:47
person says quote she said that word
19:49
like it could have several meanings and
19:51
he could pick which one and I'm
19:53
just thinking of the like what do
19:55
you mean by that gift because like
19:57
what does she mean by that I
19:59
don't know if she is uptight enough
20:01
where she could just be like we
20:03
could be friends but Also, she has
20:05
talked about the relationship things. She's like,
20:07
oh, we could be friends. Like, what
20:09
do you mean by that? All of
20:11
that? All of them? It also had
20:13
the weird vibe of like, we would
20:16
make a good dot, dot, dot friend
20:18
would be like, and, you know, inherently,
20:20
I would be a. enemy you wouldn't
20:22
want like I you you know we'd
20:24
be good friends we'd be bad enemies
20:26
like is she kind of black man
20:28
enforcing him like you should totally pick
20:30
this I don't think that's the vibe
20:32
but like there's enough interpretations of the
20:34
sentence or I'm like Rayna what is
20:36
going on she's desperate man that is
20:38
true that many ways that is Percy
20:40
says that he's flattered, but he has
20:42
a girlfriend, and he doesn't want power
20:44
or a pre-torship. And I'm wondering at
20:46
this point, like, okay, so Percy's clearly
20:48
gone on to the whole, like, she
20:50
might be seeing the relationship thing, like,
20:52
and is this him being presumptuous or
20:54
no? Like, is he being like, oh,
20:56
yeah, well, no, I already got a
20:59
girlfriend? She's like, I was not talking
21:01
about that Percy, Percy, at all. Like
21:03
this happened to me one time when
21:05
I was living in California, I like
21:07
gave a girl a ride home after
21:09
a party because like her place was
21:11
on the way home to mine. And
21:13
then it was like late at night,
21:15
and she was like, oh, like, you
21:17
still got to drive all the way
21:19
back to the east bay, like, do
21:21
you just want to crash in my
21:23
place? And the way she asked it,
21:25
I was like, oh, like, you still
21:27
got to drive all the way back
21:29
to the east bay, like, do you
21:31
just want to just want to crash
21:33
in my place? Percy's a pretty intuitive
21:35
guy. I think they spent a lot
21:37
of time. Not at all. He was
21:39
missing that signs all the time. He
21:42
thought he was cooking. It's like, oh,
21:44
clearly I'm spitting game. But she doesn't
21:46
know I'm taking it. She's like, no,
21:48
we just have a couch that you
21:50
could sleep on. Sorry, I'm better now.
21:52
Arena is surprised. And she says that
21:54
a man turning down power is not
21:56
very Roman of him. And I wrote,
21:58
well. She says that she must choose
22:00
a new partner before the invasion in
22:02
four days. And Percy is her preferred
22:04
choice, but if he doesn't come back,
22:06
or if he refuses, she may be
22:08
stuck. with Octavian, which I don't like,
22:10
and I feel like she could pick
22:12
anyone else, and it would be a
22:14
better option. And I was wondering, was
22:16
she sneakily trying to say that Octavian
22:18
is the backup plan to try and
22:20
guilt trip Percy into saying, yes, well,
22:22
I guess we'll just have to be
22:25
stuck with the worst person at camp,
22:27
if you don't accept, you know, you
22:29
don't want to be friends? What does
22:31
it mean? Her reasoning is that things
22:33
at camp are worse than they seem.
22:35
So Percy asks. How bad are they?
22:37
And Reina digs her nails into the
22:39
table, which I think tells the story
22:41
enough. And she says that she's withheld
22:43
the information from the Senate to avoid
22:45
mass panic across the camp. She has
22:47
asked Octavian not to share all of
22:49
the auguries. Apparently he has seen a
22:51
large army led by a giant marching
22:53
south towards them. And Percy asks, is
22:55
it Alsionius? And Reina doesn't think so,
22:57
because why would someone who is invulnerable
22:59
as long as they remain in Alaska?
23:01
Not remain in Alaska. So she thinks
23:03
it's someone else. So Percy responds, great.
23:05
So we've got two giants to one.
23:08
which is just like last book we
23:10
had in cell lettuce whose name I
23:12
know how to say because yesterday morning
23:14
Dr. Moya and I did our recording
23:16
so I know how to say his
23:18
name now after however many episodes we
23:20
did they had to deal with in
23:22
cell lettuce and porphyrione so maybe it's
23:24
the same kind of thing here where
23:26
we have Alcyonius and then we've got
23:28
someone else I don't know you don't
23:30
know either so let you move on!
23:32
Reina says that Lupah and the wolves
23:34
are trying to slow them down, but
23:36
it won't be enough. And she's confident
23:38
that this evil army will arrive by
23:40
the Feast of Fortuda at the latest.
23:42
And Percy gets especially worried because he's
23:44
seeing Lupah in her pack fight. And
23:46
he's thinking, okay, if they're having trouble
23:48
fending off this enemy, that is very
23:51
bad news for us, the demigots. Reina
23:53
can see the concern on Percy's face.
23:55
So she says, yes, it's bad, but
23:57
not hopeless, but not hopeless. I promise
23:59
I promise forever if we're recording this
24:01
November 7th, it's so hard to function.
24:03
She adds that if Percy, Hazel, and
24:05
Frank return the eagle and release death
24:07
so the enemies can actually stay dead,
24:09
they have a chance. And she then
24:11
says that there's one more possibility. And
24:13
then she slides the ring across the
24:15
table very dramatically. I thought this was
24:17
cool, but like, I've never really tried
24:19
to slide a ring. I guess if
24:21
it's just like a normal, like a
24:23
normal, like perfectly round ring, like my
24:25
wedding ring, that would be fine. rice
24:27
class ring. Like if I tried to
24:29
slide this because the top is heavier, it would
24:32
like jumble around. So either she slides it across
24:34
and it looks really cool, or she slides into
24:36
goes, like, blah, blah, blah, blah, it falls off
24:38
the table. And what seems more teenage to you?
24:40
But it's, but it's, but it's more teenage to
24:42
you. But it's, but it's Rena, but it's more
24:45
teenage to you. But it's, but it's, more teenage
24:47
to you. I mean, but it's, but it's, it's,
24:49
it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, more teenage, it's, it's,
24:51
it's, it's, it's, more teenage, it's, it's, it's, it's,
24:53
more teenage, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,
24:55
it's, more teenage, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,
24:57
more Seattle. I'm asking you for a favor which
25:00
may also help you. Find my sister
25:02
Hila, Hila, however you say her name.
25:04
And I literally on the train when
25:06
I was reading this today in the
25:08
wonderful Amtrak ride I took, I literally
25:10
looked like the Pikachu meme. Like I
25:13
was just like Seattle, another place where
25:15
I've lived, Rick, thank you so much.
25:17
Like it's so nice. I'm very excited
25:19
for the book that happens in Central
25:21
Jersey. Anyone from Central Jersey, come to
25:23
the show. What's good, we exist! So
25:26
I was very excited at the Seattle
25:28
thing. I don't know exactly where they're
25:30
going to go, but I am going
25:32
to nerd out and be insufferable to
25:34
98% of the podcast listeners when they're
25:37
like, stop talking about West Seattle, we
25:39
don't care. And I'm like, butt! Al-keye
25:41
Beach! So I'm so stoked about it.
25:43
Percy checks that the request from Rayna
25:45
is for Percy to visit her sister
25:47
who hates him and Rayna admits, yes,
25:50
she would love to kill you, but
25:52
if you give her this ring from
25:54
me as a token for me, she
25:56
may help. And Percy goes, may? Perfect
25:58
response, absolutely perfect response. Rana says, look,
26:00
I cannot speak for her. And then
26:02
she looks off into the middle distance
26:04
and says, I haven't spoken to her
26:07
in weeks. Percy guesses that the mission
26:09
is to check in on her and
26:11
ensure that she's all right. And Rana
26:13
says partially, but the other angle is
26:15
that her sister could also help on
26:17
Percy's quest. And Percy asks, oh, is
26:19
Hilla gonna send some sort of help?
26:21
And then Rana doesn't answer. keeping it
26:23
vague. But she looks desperate for anything
26:25
that will save the camp and Percy
26:27
can see this pain in her eyes
26:29
so he commits to finding her. He
26:31
asks where to look. Reyna says, just
26:33
go to Seattle, they're gonna find you,
26:35
which is beautifully ominous. Percy then takes
26:37
the ring and adds it to his
26:39
necklace which now has all the beads
26:41
and his pro-batio little tag and now
26:43
this ring. And then he says, wish
26:46
me luck. And Reyna says, fight well,
26:48
Percy and thank you. Super sweet. It
26:50
is super sweet. You know, it's interesting
26:52
for me because it sounds like she
26:54
keeps saying like force. She has like
26:56
forces. So my think is she's trying
26:58
to like have a helms like a
27:00
riders of row and helms deep sort
27:02
of thing happening. Yeah, I don't really
27:04
once again I don't know because it
27:06
was so vague and Percy said will
27:08
she send help to like what I
27:10
thought Percy was asking is does she
27:12
have some sort of reinforcements that can
27:14
help? That's what I'm thinking right, but
27:16
because she didn't answer and because Percy
27:18
is asking this I wonder if she's
27:20
gonna have like some sort of like
27:22
some sort of like some other sorts
27:25
or like a Gaggle of mercenaries or
27:27
whatever, but Percy Jackson and the Gaggle
27:29
of mercenaries, but I feel like that's
27:31
the misdirect and there's going to be
27:33
something else where she, I don't know,
27:35
because Cersey's whole thing is guinea pigs.
27:37
True, but also like, she's, you know,
27:39
witch, potion and all that kind of
27:41
stuff, or I guess, more like magical,
27:43
yeah, she does potion stuff too, like
27:45
she's not, but they both do potions,
27:47
but she's got magical remedies and stuff
27:49
like that, so I wonder if like,
27:51
like, like, she's, she's, she's, under surcy
27:53
so she knows some stuff so like
27:55
maybe the help is like oh drink
27:57
this potion and you know it's increase
27:59
your movement speed by 15 meters and
28:01
you get three extra attacks and a
28:04
bonus action etc etc etc etc etc
28:06
etc or maybe it's like an army
28:08
of guinea pigs oh oh that'd be
28:10
so fun that'd be really fun yeah
28:12
I kind of want that to be
28:14
the answer I think that'd be very
28:16
cool Percy can tell that Rayna needs
28:18
some alone time to regain her composure,
28:20
so he heads out, but he can't
28:22
stop himself from turning around before he
28:24
leaves out the door and asking, uh,
28:26
when I destroyed where you lived, what
28:28
happened? Yeah, what did I do? How
28:30
did I do that? The dogs growl,
28:32
Rayna silences them, and then explains that
28:34
Percy destroyed the power of their mistress.
28:36
He freed prisoners who took revenge on
28:38
everyone who lived on the island. So
28:40
my question. Is that referring to the
28:42
guinea pig dudes? The pirates. The pirates,
28:45
like, because it was not just the
28:47
guinea pigs, right? Because Annabeth had like
28:49
magical candy, right? They're like brought them
28:51
back, like, did she have like magically
28:53
Jujubies or something? Vitins, thank you. Right,
28:55
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, from Hermes's back,
28:57
cool. So yeah, didn't she like pour
28:59
like more than she needed in? And
29:01
then they kind of left, so I
29:03
guess this all happened off- Yeah. If
29:05
I recall Blackbeard might have been involved,
29:07
but it's been all, okay, I'm getting
29:09
nods, okay, I was right, yes, yes,
29:11
yes, yes. So that would be my
29:13
guess as to what happens. This feels
29:15
very much like next time around when
29:17
we're in Seattle, like we'll get the
29:19
full story, so I'm not like sweating
29:21
it too much, but that's what I
29:24
think is the situation. So it at
29:26
least made me feel good of when
29:28
I was reading the cells, I was
29:30
like, I didn't forget the Sea of
29:32
the Sea of monsters, the Sea of
29:34
monsters, the Sea of monsters, the Sea
29:36
of monsters, And by we, I mean,
29:38
my brain. Reina says it was tough,
29:40
but they survived, and it's probably for
29:42
the best that they are away from
29:44
their old home anyway. But Percy apologizes
29:46
nonetheless, and Reina goes, an apology. Not
29:48
very Roman at all, Percy Jackson. It's
29:50
like, you are so close to getting
29:52
it, Reina. You are right there. Everybody
29:54
else, with a different sword. It's one
29:56
of those, like, yes, obviously, we know,
29:58
but yeah, he fights different. Doesn't he
30:00
call all the gods, by the Greek
30:03
names? Like, come on. The ghosts are
30:05
calling him Greek, I don't know why.
30:07
He keeps calling Mars, Ares, what's the
30:09
deal? Why does he keep putting Taziki
30:11
sauce on all of his food? He
30:13
won't stop talking about olive oil, yeah,
30:15
like, come on. Geez. He has that
30:17
blue eye thing on his Kiche. She
30:19
then says, you'd make an interesting prayer
30:21
tour. I hope you'll think about my
30:23
offer, so interesting way to end the
30:25
chapter, which I have retitled, Turn Down,
30:27
period. For what? Thank you. Thank you.
30:29
I was really proud of that one
30:31
on the Amtrak. Did a little silent
30:33
fist bump to myself as the person
30:35
next to me in the quiet car
30:37
continued their 48-minute phone conversation. sat next
30:39
to her because she was the only
30:42
person on the train with a n95
30:44
and I was like, you're my kind
30:46
of girl. And then she talked on
30:48
the phone for more than half of
30:50
the ride in the quiet car. Unforgivable.
30:52
Anyway, what would you re-title Chapter 15?
30:54
So you want to be friends? Great.
30:56
Cool. Beautiful. Let's continue on. We'll do
30:58
Chapter 16 or at least part of
31:00
it before intermission. So Chapter 16. Also
31:02
called Percy. But we will re-tittle. Lunch
31:04
felt like a funeral party. Everybody ate.
31:06
People talked in hushed tones. Nobody seemed
31:08
particularly happy. The other campers kept glancing
31:10
over at Percy like he was the
31:12
corpse of honor. And I was just
31:14
imagining it, like I know this is
31:16
not what the point of this is,
31:18
but I'm imagining people at a funeral
31:21
eating and then looking over at that
31:23
casket with disdain, like, oh my God.
31:25
Poor guy. Never liked him anyway. But
31:27
also, I've been to a few funerals.
31:29
Usually. Usually don't eat in the same
31:31
room as the... That's why they're so
31:33
upset. Yeah, scary. Oh my God. Why
31:35
do you why he's looking at me?
31:37
Yeah, it's like the Mona Lisa. Yeah,
31:39
but the Another thing that I think
31:41
is funny is just like, I don't
31:43
understand how the people at this camp.
31:45
See? Percy Jackson and the other two
31:47
who also held their own in the
31:49
war games. See the three of them
31:51
absolutely dominate the war games and then
31:53
get sent on the quest and they're
31:55
like, oh, cohort five ruins everything. They're
31:57
not gonna be able to do anything.
31:59
He made every water cannon explode. Hazel
32:02
tunneled underground. They wrote an elephant into
32:04
the thing and destroyed everything. And they're
32:06
like, these guys can't do anything. What
32:08
are you talking about? Were you not
32:10
all there? Wait, everyone was there. I
32:12
don't. So you're all right there. You're
32:14
right there. I don't get, yeah, right,
32:16
yes. Jason was also there too, he's
32:18
good, like, God, they're all chord five,
32:20
here they go again, like, ah, ridiculous,
32:22
geeks and geeks. And Greeks, so. Reina
32:24
then gives a quick speech of good
32:26
luck. Octavian gives these grave omens from
32:28
a beanie baby and says that hard
32:30
times are ahead, but the camp will
32:32
be saved by an unexpected hero. And
32:34
the narrator perceived then says whose initials
32:36
were probably Octavian. Those are not initials.
32:38
That's just a name. But also here's
32:41
another, like, Babe Ruth pointing to Centerfield
32:43
calling shot moment. Babe Ruth was a
32:45
baseball player. He liked to call his
32:47
shots. Yeah, he did it. He did
32:49
it at one time. But my big
32:51
point here is that the unexpected hero
32:53
is going to be Tyson. Because I
32:55
think Tyson's showing up. They've already referenced,
32:57
like, Tyson's on his way. Don't leave.
32:59
So it feels like, initially I was
33:01
thinking, like, oh, Tyson water, maybe he'll
33:03
find his way up to Alaska. But
33:05
if Tyson's whole thing is like coming
33:07
to Camp Jupiter, I could see Fisa
33:09
Fortuna battles coming around and then Tyson
33:11
just as like a like a big
33:13
punch when it seems like a big
33:15
punch when it seems like things like
33:17
things like things like things like things
33:20
like things like things like things like
33:22
things are bad. We'll just have to
33:24
see. I hope so. I'm Tyson. I
33:26
hope he comes, it feels like he's
33:28
coming back, it's just a matter of
33:30
when. Will he show up in Alaska?
33:32
Will he show up at the very
33:34
end to kind of usher in the
33:36
plot of the third book? Many things
33:38
are at play. The campers then go
33:40
off for their afternoon classes, which all
33:42
sound cool because it's like fighting people
33:44
and playing paintball with ghosts. And I
33:46
was like, damn, why did I have
33:48
to take multi variable calculus? I don't
33:50
know, but they also did Latin. I
33:52
saw that. Very excited about that. So
33:54
then Percy, hazel and Frank go to
33:56
pack. Percy cleans up his backpack and
33:59
he keeps most of his bargain mart
34:01
supplies in there. He's got an extra
34:03
purple shirt and jeans. He's got nectar,
34:05
ambrosia, snacks, money, and camping supplies. And
34:07
he also has a scroll of introduction
34:09
from Rayna and the Senate, which he
34:11
can show to any retired legionaire along
34:13
the way, and they will help the
34:15
team. He leaves his orange shirt on
34:17
his bunk shirt on his bunk and
34:19
then says, I'll be back. But he
34:21
was really thinking about Annabith and his
34:23
old life. And then Percy continues, I'm
34:25
not leaving for good, but I have
34:27
to help these guys. They took me
34:29
in, they deserve to survive, which I
34:31
think is very sweet. And I think
34:33
that's a sentiment that I can understand.
34:35
Like I am fiercely loyal when I
34:38
first meet someone that I first meet
34:40
someone that I really like and trust.
34:42
So I think that this is cool,
34:44
that right away is like, yeah, these
34:46
people are good to me, I want
34:48
to be good to me, I want
34:50
to be good to be good to
34:52
be good to them. Yeah, I want
34:54
to be good to them. I want
34:56
to be good to be good to
34:58
be good to them. I want to
35:00
be good to be good to them.
35:02
I want to be good to them.
35:04
I want to be good to be
35:06
good to be good to be good
35:08
to be good to be good to
35:10
them. Yeah, it's really touching and it's
35:12
also great to see that it's like
35:14
without all of his memories, Percy is
35:16
still Percy. Right, and this is what
35:19
gives me a lot of confidence. I
35:21
think I said this in an earlier
35:23
episode, but people were worried like, oh,
35:25
when Jason gets his memories back, is
35:27
he gonna be a different person? I
35:29
think this is kind of like proof
35:31
of concept that if he is still
35:33
Percy, then Jason before memory wipe was
35:35
also a good dude. So we've got
35:37
two good dudes. in this exchange, I'm
35:39
very excited about this. Then Percy is
35:41
the narrator says, quote, the t-shirt didn't
35:43
answer, thankfully. So good, so good. So
35:45
one of the roommates, Bobby, and I
35:47
was like, Bobby! He got referenced at
35:49
the end of the last year, Bobby!
35:51
Yeah, hi, Bobby! Who I very correctly
35:53
predicted was not going to be one
35:55
of the seven, or at least it
35:58
would be a wild come up if
36:00
he was. Bobby gives them a ride
36:02
to the border on Hannibal, the elephant,
36:04
and Percy looks out over the camp
36:06
and he takes in its beauty and
36:08
he thinks about how. it's just another
36:10
normal day here at Camp Jupiter, but
36:12
then he looks out onto the horizon
36:14
and storm clouds are gathering as they
36:16
always do in these books before the
36:18
big terrible thing happens. So do you
36:20
think like as he's leaving, is he
36:22
wonder if like the camp looks suspiciously
36:24
like Long Island despite being on the
36:26
West Coast? What do you mean? Like...
36:28
Oh, sorry. This would be setting up
36:30
a really diverse... Oh, a reverse of
36:32
how they always film Camp Halfwood in
36:34
Vancouver? Yes. Because it's like even in
36:37
the movie and the show. Well, yeah.
36:39
I mean, they filmed in Canada. The
36:41
tax breaks were filming there. They're just
36:43
so good. I just have to insist
36:45
if we ever get to a live-action
36:47
camp cheaper. They must film the camp
36:49
on Long Island. It only makes sense.
36:51
They had. That would be so good.
36:53
That would be so good. Yeah, he
36:55
looks out, thinks about all of this,
36:57
and then he understands why Rana wants
36:59
so badly to protect this safe haven
37:01
for demigods, young, and old. He thinks
37:03
about sharing this place with Annabeth, and
37:05
I just wrote my notes, she's never
37:07
gonna go for that. There's no Annabeth?
37:09
Chase is gonna be like, yeah, let's
37:11
settle down in this college town and
37:13
never leave? No, dude. No way, she's
37:16
gotta go build buildings and stuff, come
37:18
on, bro. Bobby drops them off, and
37:20
then terminus asks them for IDs. And
37:22
Percy thought that he only guarded the
37:24
city, and he says, glad to see
37:26
you too, Mr. Rule Flouter. Normally, yes,
37:28
I guard the city, but for international
37:30
departures, I like to provide extra security
37:32
at the camp borders. You really should
37:34
have allowed two hours before your planned
37:36
departure time, you know, but we'll have
37:38
to make do. Now, come over here,
37:40
so I can pat you down. So
37:42
I can pat you down. First, I
37:44
was like international. But also, you know
37:46
who would love terminus? My dad, Joel
37:48
P. Schuber. Oh, he loves getting to
37:50
the airport early. Who loves it. And
37:52
I do too. But I love getting
37:55
to the airport. Like, I tried to
37:57
arrive an hour before boarding. I feel
37:59
like that is early and safe, but
38:01
not ridiculous. Especially because I have TSA
38:03
pre-check. Like, pretty chill. Hour before boarding
38:05
is usually like an hour and a
38:07
half, hour and four minutes before the
38:09
flight. You're usually. in good hands, you're
38:11
gonna be fine, you're gonna have enough
38:13
time to like swing by even a
38:15
lounge, if you've lounge access, get some
38:17
food, and then like boom, you're good
38:19
to go. But my dad wants to
38:21
get there like, when does the airport
38:23
open? Like he wants to get up
38:25
so early, so early. So I think
38:27
Joel would absolutely love Terminus. I also
38:29
have TSA pre-check. It's good. It's good.
38:31
So he says he wants to do
38:33
this pat-down, so Percy then goes, but
38:36
you don't have, uh, sure. And then
38:38
narrative, Percy says, Terminus conducted a rigorous
38:40
mental pat-down. And I just wrote my
38:42
notes here. Rick is cooking with gas.
38:44
Like, he's just doing, this book is
38:46
so fun, and he's doing so well
38:48
writing the whole thing, but specifically when
38:50
it's narrative, Percy chapters, they're just really
38:52
fun. He's really hitting it, it, it's
38:54
just great. Yeah. opening up this book
38:56
and it was just like, the minute
38:58
Percy was back, it was like I
39:00
was amongst old friends wrapped in a
39:02
cozy blanket. It was just really nice
39:04
to have him back. Yeah, I think
39:06
in this conversation we also said, we
39:08
didn't realize how much we missed Percy
39:10
until he came back. Like the whole
39:12
time I was reading The Lost Hero's
39:15
like, it's good, like, I don't know
39:17
why people don't like it so much.
39:19
And then I read like five pages,
39:21
five words of Percy. And I was
39:23
like, oh, oh, right. Right. Right. I
39:25
totally get it, of course. So yeah,
39:27
I totally understand. Terminus asks if he
39:29
has anything to declare, and Percy says,
39:31
I declare that this is stupid. Never
39:33
change, mercy! Terminus gets offended, and he
39:35
checks their IDs. He asks if Hazel
39:37
has any precious medals to declare, she
39:39
says no. And then he goes, well,
39:41
last time. And then she goes, no!
39:43
And then after checking Frank and complementing
39:45
his haircut, which means his haircut probably
39:47
sucks, Terminus asks him if he needs
39:49
directions. And like every white man over
39:51
the age of 45, after Frank says
39:54
no, he gives the directions anyway. Look,
39:56
Joel loves to do this. People that
39:58
used to be like, I used to
40:00
my engineering company love to do this.
40:02
They would always love to be like,
40:04
oh, here's how you should get to
40:06
the airport. It'd be like, Google knows
40:08
better than you. And they're like, oh,
40:10
you should do this. Be like, no,
40:12
I should not. No, I should not.
40:14
Kevin, I'm not going to do that.
40:16
And then eventually I just started like
40:18
nodding and we're like, oh, yeah, that
40:20
sounds good. And I just feel like,
40:22
all right, Google, where are we going?
40:24
I don't think Kevin listens to the
40:26
podcast, so I think I'm okay. So
40:28
he instructs them of what BART route
40:30
to take, shadow to the BART getting
40:33
mentioned, Percy is surprised that they don't
40:35
have a magical BART train of sorts.
40:37
And I don't know where he's getting
40:39
this, it's not like they have a
40:41
magical Long Island railroad train for Camp
40:43
Halfblood, so I don't understand this standard
40:45
that he's set for them. I mean,
40:47
I think he's just like, I don't
40:49
have any memories, Terminus then says, magic
40:51
trains, you'll be wanting your own security
40:53
lane and a pass to the executive
40:55
lounge next. Which I love that the
40:57
airport jokes just like keep coming and
40:59
coming. Just travel safely and watch out
41:01
for polyboats or Polybities? Polybities is how
41:03
they say it later on. Watch out
41:05
for Polybities. Talk about scoff laws. Bah!
41:07
I wish I could throttle him with
41:09
my bare hands. Terminus is great. I'm
41:12
a big fan. I need Terminus and
41:14
Coach Hedge and Vitalious to just all
41:16
have a conversation. It would be so
41:18
great. Thankfully, Percy goes, who? And Terminus
41:20
does not answer. He just warns for
41:22
them to be careful of him. So
41:24
then they get forced beyond the boundary
41:26
of the camp. And when they look
41:28
back, the camp appears to be missing.
41:30
Very camp half blood, strawberry fields, sort
41:32
of thing. And Percy then asks Frank
41:34
and Hazel if they know who he
41:36
was talking about. I love Percy's dedication
41:38
to leaving no stone unturned. And Hazel
41:40
says, she's never heard of Polybities, and
41:42
the book explains that she sounds it
41:44
out, Po-Lib-O-T's, because she was sounding it
41:46
out, and I was like, could we
41:48
do this for every character? Can Hazel
41:50
always say people's names? I would personally
41:53
love to have this around, so that
41:55
I don't have to record 50 episodes
41:57
of a podcast, and then Dr. Moyi
41:59
would be like, you're saying it wrong.
42:01
So much easier. So Frank says, sounds
42:03
Greek. Percy goes, that narrows it down.
42:05
Percy's already being very sassy and I'm
42:07
here for it. Percy says that they
42:09
should get moving because they are now
42:11
on the radar of every monster within
42:13
five miles just because of their smell
42:15
alone. And then Percy states that they
42:17
arrived at the Alameda docks after two
42:19
hours. And I was thinking two hours.
42:21
And then I wanted to Google Maps
42:23
and it is like a long walk
42:25
to go from where they are to
42:27
like the first part station so it
42:29
doesn't have making sense. But. before we
42:32
get into like this whole travel and
42:34
how this all goes, we will take
42:36
our break for intermission. Ooh! But if
42:38
you are listening to the podcast after
42:40
the fact, we will take our break
42:42
for our middle break, the Son of
42:44
Fortune. So let's all say it, right?
42:46
Pretty good. We'll all say goodbye to
42:48
the podcast people. Hello
42:51
and welcome to the Sun of Fortune Shubio
42:53
edition back in the Shubio back with some
42:55
updates about the podcast. So let's get into
42:57
those podcast updates first. I forgot to mention
42:59
this in the past couple of middle breaks
43:01
just because I was putting those together very
43:03
quickly, but I wanted to wish nothing but
43:05
the best for anyone who's affected by the
43:07
wildfires going on in LA. It is absolutely
43:09
devastating to see what was happening and the
43:11
damage and I just hope everybody is safe,
43:13
and everyone's doing okay. donate some money already
43:15
to some mutual aid funds that are helping
43:17
out folks affected by the fires. So last
43:19
time we donated to charity it was 700
43:21
bucks for the Marsher P. Johnson Institute. I'm
43:23
going to donate $700 to these various mutual
43:26
aid funds and then I'll see what the
43:28
numbers end up being the next time we
43:30
do. One of those over taking a week
43:32
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43:34
downloads that the show got in between, but
43:36
rather than wait a couple of months and
43:38
donate, I figure let's just donate now and
43:40
then you're out what the amount should slash
43:42
should have been later. So I just wanted
43:44
to let people know that I'm thinking of
43:46
you. I'm hoping everything's gonna be okay for
43:48
you all and I'm wishing you nothing but
43:50
the best and also using the podcast charity
43:52
funds to try and help some folks in
43:54
need. Now I do have updates merchandise wise
43:56
for the podcast. We've got a new enamel
43:58
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44:00
to work to get a shipment of those
44:02
to the online merch store so that people
44:04
listening for forever can order them. I'm not
44:06
going to get into too much detail about
44:09
them now since you can't purchase them, but
44:11
you can purchase them at the upcoming live
44:13
shows that I'm doing because I will be
44:15
bringing them to the live shows. So we've
44:17
got a bunch of shows coming up in
44:19
the near future future. We've got three in
44:21
February and if you saw I posted on
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a post it. What chapters will be covering
44:25
at those shows? So February 1st will be
44:27
in Hartford Connecticut with Emily and Phoebe for
44:29
Monster Donut We'll be covering the son of
44:31
Neptune chapters 29 and 30 then February 9th
44:33
will be in Baltimore Maryland with Baltimore's own
44:35
Sherry Gore that's a half TNO half Potter
44:37
the show will be covering chapters 32 and
44:39
33 for the TNO portion and then we'll
44:41
be doing a recap of the wild Harry
44:43
Potter iPhone game and its absurd plot for
44:45
the Potter host portion and then on February
44:47
23rd I'll be in Richmond Virginia with Johnny
44:49
Frelixine. That is another half T&O, half potter
44:52
of the show for the T&O half. We'll
44:54
be covering chapters 34 and 35 of the
44:56
Sun of Neptune and then the potteros portion
44:58
Johnny and I are going to do Wizard
45:00
on Squid Game. So you can get tickets
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I missed you also dearly. Let's get
49:15
into act two, do as much as
49:18
we can do. Cool, so they were
49:20
about to go on the Bart adventure.
49:22
So what they do is they let
49:24
us know as narrator Percy is like,
49:26
oh yeah, it took us two hours
49:28
and then he takes us back to
49:31
the beginning of the trip. So he
49:33
says that there were no monster attacks
49:35
on this trip. Nobody looked at Percy
49:37
like he was a homeless wild child.
49:39
Percy, you ever been on the bar?
49:41
There's always something weirder happening on the
49:43
bar, no matter what. And fun fact,
49:46
if you're going on the bar and
49:48
you ever hear something that an elevator
49:50
is out of service, it means someone
49:52
pooped in the elevator. So yeah, it's
49:54
like when the McFlary machine is down.
49:56
It doesn't, no, people don't poop in
49:59
the McFlary machine. They lie to
50:01
you and they say that McFlary machine isn't working
50:03
when really it's just they've already cleaned it But
50:05
I think they like pass some law like nationally
50:08
to like make it to where there was something
50:10
I feel like I saw on social media that
50:12
was like McFlary machines there can like people can
50:14
decide for their own now Okay,
50:27
so for anyone that couldn't hear, McDonald's used
50:29
to not be able to fix their own
50:31
machines, they had to get someone else to
50:33
do it, there was a monopoly, but now
50:35
McDonald's can fix their own machines.
50:38
Yay! One corporation, but here's a revolution!
50:40
Extend right to repair it to the public!
50:42
Yeah, power to the people! Let me get
50:44
in there with a wrench if I want
50:46
one! I don't know what I'm doing, I
50:49
just need icebread! So. Frank has his spear,
50:51
his bow, and his quiver in a ski
50:53
bag. And Hazel has her cavalry sword wrapped
50:55
in her bedroll and slung over her back.
50:57
So to the untrained eye, they just look
51:00
like a bunch of high schoolers going on
51:02
an overnight trip. Quote, they walked to Rockridge
51:04
Station, bought their tickets with mortal money, and
51:06
hopped on the bar train. Now I. wrote,
51:08
the walk alone to Rock Ridge Station is
51:11
about two hours. Like it is not,
51:13
you can't just, it's not just like,
51:15
oh yeah, they walked to the station.
51:17
They went on a hike to the
51:20
station, like it is hard. There's like
51:22
a big highway and hills, like it
51:24
is not an easy route. So they,
51:26
well Percy did pack snacks. That's true.
51:28
So he is fine. But also Rock
51:31
Ridge Station is fun because that's one
51:33
of the ones that I would use
51:35
quite a bit. It's like in Oakland.
51:37
in Oakland and their good alameda, people
51:40
in the Bay Area know what's going on,
51:42
everyone else is like, please stop talking about
51:44
this narrative versus. How does the BART compare
51:46
to the New York City subway system? It
51:48
is nice and that it goes very far. It's
51:51
obviously worse, like it's no question, way worse,
51:53
but it's like definitely better than other cities
51:55
that I've lived. The main issue that I
51:57
have with the BART is that it doesn't
51:59
run. 24 hours that sucks and like
52:01
the whole thing is like oh we
52:03
repair it overnight so that it doesn't
52:05
have delays and stuff I'm like yeah
52:07
but also I don't have to like
52:10
leave the bar at 11 37 p.m.
52:12
if I'm out doing stuff so that
52:14
was annoying of having to like catch
52:16
the last part home whereas New York
52:18
is just like the worst case scenarios
52:20
you're like oh I gotta wait 30
52:22
minutes for a G train or whatever
52:24
but like at least a train is
52:26
coming. Do you guys even have trains
52:28
in Philly? Oh nice, good, thank you.
52:30
I was gonna say, you're saying septa
52:33
like it's good, but I don't know
52:35
that it is. Its name is septa.
52:37
They're going straight tomorrow? Power to the
52:39
people, let's go! Cool, awesome. Anyway, septa...
52:41
Every time they say septa, it just
52:43
sounds like septic, and it just can't...
52:45
If you sound like crap, how good
52:47
can you be? Nared of Percy says,
52:49
they got off in Oakland, they had
52:51
to walk through some rough neighborhoods, but
52:53
nobody bothered them. Whenever the local gang
52:56
members came close enough to look in
52:58
Percy's eyes, they quickly veered away. He'd
53:00
perfected his wolf stare over the last
53:02
few months, a look that said, however
53:04
bad you think you are, I'm worse.
53:06
After strangling sea monsters and running over
53:08
Gorgens in a police car, Percy wasn't
53:10
scared of gangs. Pretty much nothing in
53:12
the mortal world scared him anymore. Scared
53:14
him anymore. Now. I did live in
53:16
the Berkeley Oakland area for about seven
53:19
months. I personally walked many places, never
53:21
ran into a gang. So I think
53:23
this might be like old guy writing
53:25
a book about Oakland. Because at least
53:27
to my knowledge, that's not like a
53:29
huge concern of just like walking around
53:31
this part. Like sure, there definitely are
53:33
some rough neighborhoods. But it's not like
53:35
you're walking behind you're like, oh no,
53:37
gang violence. Like you're just transferring trains?
53:39
Like, I got us. All right, man.
53:42
How close do you see the craziness
53:44
in your eyes? That's how you really
53:46
get someone to not mess with you.
53:48
So when they arrive at the docks,
53:50
Percy looks out onto the bay and
53:52
he's excited because they're going to be
53:54
in his father's domain. So they're just
53:56
going to have advantage over any foe
53:58
that comes across them. And he starts
54:00
skin. the boats for a tri-reme or
54:02
the boat from his dreams that he
54:05
saw, the orgo-to judgment day, Leo's working
54:07
on. Nothing jumps out to him. So
54:09
he asks Hazel and Frank if they
54:11
know what they're looking for. And Hazel
54:13
says, I didn't even know we had
54:15
a Navy. And then Frank points out
54:17
something and goes, oh, you don't think?
54:19
And it is a tiny little dinky
54:21
covered in a purple tarp with SBQR.
54:23
And I just wrote, oh no, not
54:25
a tongue in cheek Navy. It makes
54:28
sense. The Romans were land people I
54:30
should have known. I should have known.
54:32
That when they said you love the
54:34
full Roman Navy, Roman Navy, they meant.
54:36
One boat. It's just a metal rowboat.
54:38
It doesn't even have oars. A fun
54:40
note is that Percy unties the knots
54:42
with ease. So I'll have to keep
54:44
that stored away for way in the
54:46
future when I start doing the silly
54:48
like improvised live shows like I did
54:51
with Potter List stuff. Like if I
54:53
do Percy Jackson Survivor, Percy's gonna be
54:55
elite at the challenges because they always
54:57
have to untie knots in Survivor. They're
54:59
always untying knots. So he's good at
55:01
that. That's fun. A little nautical power
55:03
for him. And the paint on this
55:05
boat is faded, but the name Pax
55:07
is visible. Since I took Latin in
55:09
high school, this means peace. And there
55:11
are eyes painted on the boat, and
55:14
they're at sea level, so it looks
55:16
like the boat's about to go to
55:18
sleep. The boat has two benches on
55:20
the inside, a thing of steel wool,
55:22
a cooler, frayed rope, and a plastic
55:24
bag filled with empty coke floating in
55:26
scummy water. So fun, seems like a
55:28
cool vessel. Frank says, behold, the mighty
55:30
Roman Navy, which is great. Hazel thinks
55:32
that this has to be a mistake
55:34
because this thing is just a piece
55:37
of junk. And then Percy thinks of
55:39
Octavian laughing at them, but he decides
55:41
not to let it get to him.
55:43
Percy having a very mature approach to
55:45
the Octavian. conundrum. And the reason that
55:47
Percy is not worried is because at
55:49
the end of the day, Pax is
55:51
a boat and his dad is the
55:53
god of the sea. So how bad
55:55
can things really be? He points at
55:57
the steel wall and it scrubs the
56:00
boat clean. He points at the rope
56:02
and the boat. unties itself from the
56:04
dock and he's not worried about the
56:06
lack of oars because he can tell
56:08
that he'll be able to control it.
56:10
He can just feel like this boot
56:12
is ready for him to tell it
56:14
where to go. He then just says
56:16
this will do hop in and Frank
56:18
and Hazel are shocked but they do
56:20
climb in. Hazel looks extra nervous which
56:23
we will soon understand why. Then, the
56:25
sleepy Gia voice enters Percy's brain, and
56:27
the boat begins to rock. They're already
56:29
out on the waters at this point.
56:31
And she says that Juno was right
56:33
and that Percy would have been safe
56:35
if he stayed in Camp Jupiter. But
56:37
then, she says, quote, now it's too
56:39
late. You chose pain and misery. You're
56:41
part of my plan now. My important
56:43
little pawn. And I refuse to believe
56:46
that Percy is going to go along
56:48
and be her little pawn unless she
56:50
does some uncontrollable. He couldn't defeat it.
56:52
over him sort of thing like Riku
56:54
in kingdom hearts where we have like
56:56
dark Percy and then he's got to
56:58
fight Jason like I don't think Percy
57:00
is going to be tricked into doing
57:02
anything I think if anything happens it's
57:04
going to be some sort of situation
57:06
where it's like some magical power that
57:09
he had no chance of beating has
57:11
possessed him into being an evil version
57:13
of himself. So unless she's doing that
57:15
I don't think he's gonna be her
57:17
little pawn but that's just me. Where
57:19
are you at, since you also don't
57:21
know? I also don't know, but now
57:23
you're just making me think, like, is
57:25
there going to be a nobody version
57:27
of Percy running around? So when you
57:29
lose X and X, when you lose
57:32
your soul in kingdom hearts, your body
57:34
becomes heartless and your soul becomes a
57:36
no body? Because you have no, no
57:38
body? God, now it's just been too
57:40
long. I think, I think that's, ugh.
57:42
Gosh, kingdom hearts. You become one and
57:44
then the other. Uh-huh. There's like, there's
57:46
one for each. When the thing happens,
57:48
it creates one of each. Yeah, it's
57:50
got, the games are so good, but
57:52
now I haven't played in like a
57:55
year or so, that memory is just
57:57
gone. Gosh. There's a bunch of YouTube
57:59
videos that'll help you out. And they're
58:01
all seven hours long, so. But it's
58:03
all critical information. and information that he
58:05
growled, get off my ship, but I
58:07
feel like it was definitely, get off
58:09
my ship. And Frank goes, what? And
58:11
Percy replies, nothing. Let's see what this
58:13
robot can do. And I feel like,
58:15
given the description of the robot, it's
58:18
very small, I feel like Frank definitely
58:20
heard you say, get off my ship.
58:22
It does say in the narration that
58:24
he growled, get off my ship, but
58:26
I feel like it was definitely enough
58:28
where Frank was like, huh? And I
58:30
think it's funny, obviously just with Percy
58:32
hearing things and no one else hearing
58:34
things. It's funny that he didn't describe
58:36
it. Percy was just like, ah, they
58:38
probably didn't hear me like, I don't
58:41
know, this feels like a small boat.
58:43
Yeah. narrative Percy then ends the chapter
58:45
by saying, quote, he turned the boat
58:47
to the north and in no time
58:49
they were speeding along at 15 knots,
58:51
which that could mean anything. I have
58:53
no idea what that means. That could
58:55
be really fast, that could be really
58:57
slow. I couldn't tell you anything about
58:59
it. Does anyone, is 15 knots fast?
59:01
Not really, hmm. It is a dingy.
59:04
Yeah, 15, nah, let's Google it. 15
59:06
knots, two miles per hour, dada, dada,
59:08
17.2 miles per hour. Yes, ma. It
59:11
means walking, I guess. Yeah, I mean,
59:13
not, but not sprinting if you're fast
59:15
enough. Yeah, that's, that's okay. It's gonna
59:18
take a while to get to Seattle.
59:20
Yeah, it's gonna take a bit, but
59:22
we'll have to see. But yes, they
59:24
are going in 15 knots, which means
59:26
something, and they're heading for the Golden
59:29
Gate Bridge. So that is the end
59:31
of chapter 16, which I've retitled, we
59:33
control the Navy, because at the beginning,
59:35
you would think that's impressive, that's impressive.
59:37
Do you have a retitling? I have
59:40
a similar one. Just like, I become
59:42
supreme ruler of the Roman Navy. Of
59:44
the Roman Navy. Oh yeah, what's like
59:46
the highest level of Navy? Like. Probably
59:48
Commodore? Captain? Admiral? Admiral? Admiral's the guest.
59:51
Let's see. The admiral. Yes. Okay. So,
59:53
let's get into a. as much of
59:55
Chapter 17 as we can do. Chapter
59:57
17 is called Hazel. We will re-title
59:59
it, but we're not gonna finish this
1:00:02
chapter on the stage, so you'll have
1:00:04
to wait for the future. Everyone at
1:00:06
the show is gonna have to wait
1:00:08
like months. So. The beginning of this
1:00:10
chapter is, quote, hazel hated boats. Uh,
1:00:13
yeah, we figured. So she says that
1:00:15
she hates boats. She hates boats because
1:00:17
she gets seasick so easily that she
1:00:19
calls it sea plague. She's hidden this
1:00:21
from Percy out of fear of messing
1:00:24
up the quest, but she thinks back
1:00:26
to her life in Alaska with her
1:00:28
mom. No roads. All trains and boats.
1:00:30
And this is exactly how I live
1:00:32
my life in New York City. No
1:00:35
roads. Just subways and ferries. But also,
1:00:37
Hazel, please tell us about Alaska. I
1:00:39
really hope you tell us about Alaska
1:00:41
is what I wrote here. And thankfully,
1:00:43
that's the rest of the chapter to
1:00:46
my knowledge. So, yeah. She was hoping
1:00:48
that her condition of seasickness would have
1:00:50
improved since returning from the dead, but
1:00:52
nope, still sucks, not good at being
1:00:54
on a boat, especially in such a
1:00:57
small boat. Now she is woozy by
1:00:59
the time they pass the San Francisco
1:01:01
and Barcadero peers, which is like, that's
1:01:03
a good enough distance. It's not like
1:01:05
they got a little bit, and then
1:01:08
she was like, whoa, but still, she's
1:01:10
not far. They've not escaped the Bay
1:01:12
Area, and they're trying to go to
1:01:14
Seattle. So they've got quite a ways
1:01:16
away. They pass lounging sea lions, which
1:01:19
is very accurate, that is what they
1:01:21
do up there, and Hazel. I meant
1:01:23
to look this up, but I don't
1:01:25
remember. Pretty sure, Nureaus is his name.
1:01:27
There's nods, there's nods, right. Awesome, look
1:01:30
at me go, I can remember things,
1:01:32
we! So he then points a bony
1:01:34
finger at Percy and mouth something that
1:01:36
looks like, don't even think about it.
1:01:38
Hazel asks, what's up with this? And
1:01:41
Percy, knows that he's been here before
1:01:43
on a rescue mission for Annabeth, but
1:01:45
that is it. Frank asks if this
1:01:47
was on his was on his way
1:01:49
to camp Jupiter, to settle her stomach.
1:01:52
thinking happy thoughts like winning the war
1:01:54
games and writing Hannibal and Frank suddenly
1:01:56
becoming a leader and she opened this
1:01:58
book with like I don't have any
1:02:00
feelings for Frank and then immediately has
1:02:03
very obvious feelings for Frank. narrator Hazel
1:02:05
says quote he'd looked like a different
1:02:07
person when he'd scaled the walls calling
1:02:09
on the fifth cohort to attack the
1:02:11
way he'd swept the defenders off the
1:02:14
battlements hazel had never seen him like
1:02:16
that before she'd been so proud to
1:02:18
pin the centurion's badge to his shirt
1:02:20
like okay yeah this took one chapter
1:02:22
cool yeah alright hazel cool she then
1:02:25
maybe they can be friends oh yeah
1:02:27
or Friends. Dot, dot, dot, dot. Friends.
1:02:29
She then thinks of Nico, who had
1:02:31
wished her luck before they left. She
1:02:33
was hoping that he would stay at
1:02:36
camp long enough to defend from the
1:02:38
impending battle, but he said that he
1:02:40
was leaving as well. He had to
1:02:42
go for the underworld to help out
1:02:44
Pluto. His reasoning is that Pluto needs
1:02:47
all the help that he can get,
1:02:49
because the fields of punishment look like
1:02:51
a prison riot. The theories are having
1:02:53
trouble keeping order, and he's also going
1:02:55
to try and track some of the
1:02:58
escaping. finding the doors of death. So
1:03:00
I think that's good. Could be very
1:03:02
useful for their Thanatos related mission. So
1:03:04
I at least, like I understand why
1:03:06
Hazle isn't want him to leave, but
1:03:09
for me and the quest, I think
1:03:11
he's more useful for our trio here
1:03:13
than he is just like being in
1:03:15
NBC and just like walking in a
1:03:17
square pattern for four days until the
1:03:20
feast of Fista Fortuna. You know what
1:03:22
also be useful? I'd be telling all
1:03:24
of his friends where the hell Percy
1:03:26
is. Yeah, but... There must be a
1:03:28
reason, but... I mean, I would believe
1:03:31
the reason is like, it's prophecy related
1:03:33
stuff, right? It's just like, this is
1:03:35
how it has to happen, we gotta
1:03:37
make it work. Like, we need Percy
1:03:39
to be like Jason, get fully entrenched,
1:03:42
and fully fall in love with Camp
1:03:44
Jupiter, and then be like, ha ha
1:03:46
ha. Like, Niko, Niko understands that, like,
1:03:48
like, you gotta keep the plan to
1:03:50
be a tough situation. for you and
1:03:53
Negro tells her not to worry because
1:03:55
he's adept at staying hidden. He tells
1:03:57
her to watch herself especially as she
1:03:59
approaches Alaska quote I'm not sure if
1:04:01
it'll make the Blackouts better or worse.
1:04:04
And I wrote The Blackouts! And soon
1:04:06
we learn about the Blackouts. Hazel laughs
1:04:08
at the notion that this quest will
1:04:10
be anything but horrible for her. And
1:04:12
Hazel tells Nico that if they free
1:04:15
Thanatos, she may never see him again
1:04:17
because surely Thanatos would send her back
1:04:19
to the underworld. And I feel like
1:04:21
it's possible, but maybe not. But then
1:04:23
I got worried, oh no, because of
1:04:26
the great prophecy. There's the whole oath
1:04:28
to keep with a final breath sort
1:04:30
of the final breath sort of thing.
1:04:32
we learned with his stick of doom
1:04:34
is that he might die very easily.
1:04:37
But now hazel also might die very
1:04:39
easily. So we have two new people
1:04:41
introduced, but very quickly established, like, don't
1:04:43
know how long they're gonna last. So
1:04:45
I don't feel good about either of
1:04:48
them making it out of this series.
1:04:50
I mean, they're all demigods. So they've
1:04:52
all got a pretty high. That is
1:04:54
also true. That is also true. And
1:04:56
I guess that does bring to question
1:04:59
because I've been trying to. with there
1:05:01
being two people that might die, like
1:05:03
maybe it makes the selection process easier
1:05:05
if there's... One less but I don't
1:05:07
know less option problem is at least
1:05:10
for me There's too many Greek people
1:05:12
that are in contention for me because
1:05:14
we already know it's gonna be leo
1:05:16
and Piper and then we would assume
1:05:18
Percy and Annabeth But like that's already
1:05:21
more than half being Greek. What is
1:05:23
Nico? I feel like he could be
1:05:25
the nice like middle ground of the
1:05:27
seven, but then like we only need
1:05:29
three Greeks. So like does Annabeth not
1:05:32
count like that feels weird person? Like
1:05:34
I don't know like I So narrator
1:05:36
Hazel then says, Nico took her hand.
1:05:38
His fingers were so pale, it was
1:05:40
hard to believe that Hazel and he
1:05:43
shared the same godly father. This is
1:05:45
cool. I like the establishing of children
1:05:47
of the same parent can look wildly
1:05:49
different. That's fun. Makes it easier for
1:05:51
casting purposes in the Prince of Jackson
1:05:54
TV. So I don't know if Rick
1:05:56
was thinking, like, maybe one day. He
1:05:58
tells her that he wanted to give
1:06:00
her a chance at Elysium. He says
1:06:02
it was the best he could do
1:06:05
for her, but now he wishes there
1:06:07
was another way because he doesn't want
1:06:09
to lose his sister. So with this,
1:06:11
is he saying there's not going to
1:06:14
be a way to bring you back
1:06:16
to life? Because Elysium, you have to
1:06:18
live like three good lives. Right? I
1:06:20
love the blessed. Oh. she's not supposed
1:06:22
to live for much longer so he's
1:06:25
like oh you haven't lived like long
1:06:27
enough of a life to earn elisium?
1:06:29
I guess I'm just wondering why he's
1:06:31
like oh I wanted to give you
1:06:33
the chance like like it's a foregone
1:06:36
conclusion that it won't happen. My impression
1:06:38
once again having I only gotten up
1:06:40
to the end of this chapter right
1:06:42
was that when she was in the
1:06:44
underworld prior because she had been dead
1:06:47
correct that she wasn't in elisium yes
1:06:49
so I think he was just saying
1:06:51
that like this time you might get
1:06:53
it Oh, okay. Oh, I've done this
1:06:55
to give you a shot at Lee.
1:06:58
Okay, so it's I wanted to do
1:07:00
this. That's why I have done it.
1:07:02
Not, oh, damn, you are gonna die
1:07:04
soon. I wanted to do this. Okay,
1:07:06
got you. It's like, you're back. You're
1:07:09
gonna die soon. I wanted to do
1:07:11
this. Okay, got you. It's like, you're
1:07:13
like, to do this. Okay, got you.
1:07:15
It's like, you're like, you're back. You're
1:07:17
back, because you're back, because I wanted
1:07:20
to give you're back, because I wanted
1:07:22
to give you're back, because I wanted
1:07:24
to give you're back, because I wanted
1:07:26
to give you're back, because I wanted
1:07:28
to give you're back, because I wanted
1:07:31
to give you're back, because I wanted
1:07:33
to give you're back, because I wanted
1:07:35
to give you're back, because I wanted
1:07:37
to give you're back, because I wanted
1:07:39
to give you're back, because I wanted
1:07:42
to give you're back, because I Then
1:07:44
he says that he doesn't want to
1:07:46
lose his sister. He doesn't say again,
1:07:48
but Hazel knows that he's thinking it.
1:07:50
He knows there is an implied again.
1:07:53
And now for a change, Hazel is
1:07:55
not jealous of Bianca, as she normally
1:07:57
is. Instead, she just wishes that she
1:07:59
could have had more time at camp
1:08:01
with Nico and all of her friends.
1:08:04
And she also doesn't want to die
1:08:06
a second time. Doesn't sound fun. I
1:08:08
don't think I'd want to do it
1:08:10
twice, so I get it. ski bag
1:08:12
is across his lap like he's on
1:08:15
an amusement ride which makes or think
1:08:17
of a time that Sammy brought her
1:08:19
to a Mardi Gras carnival, but she
1:08:21
shoves this memory away because she doesn't
1:08:23
want to risk a blackout. And now
1:08:26
I'm realizing, okay, clearly it seems like
1:08:28
if she thinks too much about her
1:08:30
past, she will black out, which of
1:08:32
course is bad, even though it would
1:08:34
tell us stuff about her backstory. But
1:08:37
of course, it's very bad. And we
1:08:39
don't want this to happen to hazel
1:08:41
too much. Frank asks if she's okay,
1:08:43
because she looks a little woozy. She
1:08:45
says that it's seasickness and explains that
1:08:48
she didn't think it would be so
1:08:50
bad. Frank pouts as if it's his
1:08:52
fault, which is something I can relate
1:08:54
to, like, even if something's not my
1:08:56
fault, but it feels like my fault,
1:08:59
like if something's not my fault, but
1:09:01
it feels like my trip, like if
1:09:03
I was going somewhere with Kelly, and
1:09:05
it was more of a me thing
1:09:07
like, I totally got this. He feels
1:09:10
bad like it's still his fault. He
1:09:12
rummages around in his bag. He says
1:09:14
that he's nectar and crackers. He wishes
1:09:16
that he had his grandmother's ginger because
1:09:18
that always works. Hazel smiles and says
1:09:21
that it's all good, but she appreciates
1:09:23
the effort. And he tries to pull
1:09:25
out a saltine, but it snaps in
1:09:27
his fingers and does goes all over
1:09:29
the place. And Hazel laughs and immediately
1:09:32
apologizes for laughing. And he says, no
1:09:34
problem. Guess you don't want that one.
1:09:36
Guess you don't. Percy's not paying attention
1:09:38
at all, which is very funny, because
1:09:40
I'm imagining this boat is very small.
1:09:43
So this whole thing is happening, and
1:09:45
Percy's just like staring out onto the
1:09:47
coast. So they pass Stinson Beach and
1:09:49
he points inland at a single mountain
1:09:51
and says that looks familiar and it's
1:09:54
got to be Mount Tam and the
1:09:56
very next line of the book is
1:09:58
Frank going Mount Tam Frank says that
1:10:00
kids of camp talk about it all
1:10:02
the time because there was a big
1:10:05
battle on the summit at the old
1:10:07
Titan base and Percy asks if either
1:10:09
of them were there and Hazel says
1:10:11
no, but Jason told her about it
1:10:13
Quote, the legion destroyed the enemy's palace
1:10:16
and about a million monsters. Jason had
1:10:18
to battle Creos, hand-to-hand combat with a
1:10:20
Titan, if you can imagine. And then
1:10:22
Percy mutters, I can imagine. He's so
1:10:24
intense. But I think it's actually funny
1:10:27
and an interesting way for us to
1:10:29
learn about Percy because we always think
1:10:31
of him as this light-hearted, jovial guy
1:10:33
and he's cracking all these jokes and
1:10:35
blah blah blah. But when you take
1:10:38
a step back, you realize a lot
1:10:40
of that stuff that he's doing is.
1:10:42
when he is the narrator. So if
1:10:44
you try to think of Percy Jackson
1:10:46
without all of his narrator jokes, which
1:10:49
is kind of I guess like Percy
1:10:51
Jackson on the TV show, like when
1:10:53
he doesn't have all of these jokes,
1:10:55
you think like, this guy's like kind
1:10:57
of serious. So I wonder if you
1:11:00
know, Percy might have said this, but
1:11:02
also if it was a narrator, Percy,
1:11:04
all right? So Hazel isn't really. sure
1:11:06
what he means by this, but she
1:11:08
does think that Percy reminds her of
1:11:11
Jason. And I appreciate that Rick is
1:11:13
not denying that the similarities exist between
1:11:15
them, because they are similar, but they
1:11:17
also have their differences. Narrator, here's all
1:11:19
says, quote, they had the same aura
1:11:22
of quiet power plus a kind of
1:11:24
sadness, like they'd seen their destiny and
1:11:26
knew it was only a matter of
1:11:28
time before they met a monster they
1:11:30
couldn't beat. And hazel thinks to herself
1:11:33
that she understands the feeling that she
1:11:35
understands the And then she watches the
1:11:37
sunset and thinks that she is less
1:11:39
than a week to live. She believes
1:11:41
that her journey ends by the feast
1:11:44
of Fortuna, whether the quest is successful
1:11:46
or not. At this point, I was
1:11:48
thinking, okay, are you laying hints? Am
1:11:50
I forgetting something? Like, is it just,
1:11:52
I guess the doors of death thing?
1:11:55
Like, she's just thinking, like, doors of
1:11:57
death is gonna happen. We're gonna free
1:11:59
Thanato, like, I know okay cool she
1:12:01
starts thinking about her first death and
1:12:03
the time leading up to it and
1:12:06
before she can stop herself she blacks
1:12:08
out and I was like oh no
1:12:10
hazel are you sure you're just on
1:12:12
a bow with safe people No, don't,
1:12:14
no, don't blackout, no! So, we get
1:12:17
this flashback in the past. The rental
1:12:19
house that they had in Alaska is
1:12:21
a clapboard box suspended on pilings over
1:12:23
the bay. I don't know what a
1:12:25
clapboard box is, but I feel like
1:12:28
the word clapboard box, like, paints the
1:12:30
scene well enough. So they're on a
1:12:32
box suspended on pilings over the bay.
1:12:34
Everything shakes when the train from anchorage
1:12:36
passes by. Hazle falls asleep to the
1:12:39
sound of water, lapping against the rocks
1:12:41
beneath the floorboard. So it seems like
1:12:43
not an ideal situation. Victorian home that
1:12:45
they're living in. It also is just
1:12:47
one room. It's got a hot plate
1:12:50
and an ice box for a kitchen
1:12:52
and then a corner of the room
1:12:54
is curtained off for hazels, bedroom and
1:12:56
quotation marks. So this would cost $5,000
1:12:58
a month in New York City. She's
1:13:01
got a mattress, she's got a storage
1:13:03
chest, and she's pinned up drawings and
1:13:05
old photos on the walls, but it
1:13:07
just makes her homesickness even worse. Her
1:13:09
mom is not home often. She doesn't
1:13:12
go by Queen Mary anymore. Instead, she
1:13:14
is Marie, the hired help. She cooks
1:13:16
and cleans, at a diner nearby for
1:13:18
fishermen, railroad workers, and sometimes Navy officers.
1:13:20
And she would return smelling of pine
1:13:23
saw in fried fish, which is definitely
1:13:25
something. Levesquette, Levesque, Levesque? Levesque? Levesque? Levesque?
1:13:27
That's like the audiobook said on. Then
1:13:29
we're rolling with that. Because they said,
1:13:31
Gia, so sure, they can't get anything
1:13:34
wrong. At night Marie, Levesque would transform
1:13:36
the voice, capital T. Capital V took
1:13:38
over, giving Hazel orders, putting her to
1:13:40
work on their horrible project. Naredo Hazel
1:13:42
says that winter was the worst time
1:13:45
of year, because the voice. And now
1:13:47
I'm realizing. That's I've watched zero minutes
1:13:49
of the voice, but I just know
1:13:51
they turn around dramatically So stoop dogs
1:13:53
on this season. It's pretty great. Oh
1:13:56
man now am I gonna have to
1:13:58
watch? Do they have wrappers or is
1:14:00
he trying to give singing advice? No,
1:14:02
he's giving like production advice Okay, they
1:14:04
should have a wrapping season. That would
1:14:07
be pretty cool. That would be pretty
1:14:09
good. I'd be into that. I'm gonna
1:14:11
call NBC? ABC? Fox? Which channel is
1:14:13
it on? I think NBC? NBC? All
1:14:15
right. Yeah. I'm gonna call up Robert?
1:14:18
NBC. Hello. I have an idea. So
1:14:20
Winter's the worst because the voice is
1:14:22
on television. The voice is in season
1:14:24
and it will linger around for longer
1:14:26
due to the constant darkness. Hazel is
1:14:29
delighted. When summer comes around, because the
1:14:31
sun is up all the time, so
1:14:33
she spends as much time in the
1:14:35
sun as she can, she would stay
1:14:37
away from home as much as possible.
1:14:40
But she wouldn't walk around town, because
1:14:42
it's too small of a town. Rumors
1:14:44
have already been spread by kids, and
1:14:46
it's infiltrated the whole town. And it's
1:14:48
already been spread by kids, and it's
1:14:51
infiltrated the whole town. They believe her
1:14:53
to be the child of a witch
1:14:55
who lives and rocks, what are we
1:14:57
doing here? Are you throwing bottles and
1:14:59
rocks at her also? Like, that might
1:15:02
just be old school racist. Oh, you're
1:15:04
right, because we're in the past and
1:15:06
she's black. Yes. Never mind, that makes
1:15:08
all of this make way more sense.
1:15:10
Thank you. Hazel would think about how
1:15:13
she could easily make their lives hell
1:15:15
because there's so much gold in the
1:15:17
hills, but she doesn't do it because
1:15:19
honestly, she can't blame them. So she
1:15:21
explained she would spend her days walking
1:15:24
the walking the hills. She attracted ravens
1:15:26
and that is certainly an ominous vibe.
1:15:28
She would go on these huge climbs
1:15:30
and drink water from snow melt waterfalls.
1:15:32
And she would think of her father
1:15:35
occasionally, wishing that he could come back
1:15:37
to save her mother from The Voice
1:15:39
and Gwen Stephanie. I've seen zero episodes,
1:15:41
but I know enough to get by.
1:15:43
She's also on this season. Oh, look,
1:15:46
I know key things. Isn't Robin Thicks
1:15:48
stupid ass on the show, too? No,
1:15:50
that's the mass singer. What are we
1:15:52
doing? Why does he have a job?
1:15:54
Why is he employed? He wasn't even
1:15:57
the best part of blurt like it.
1:15:59
Anyway, anyway. She would
1:16:01
wonder. If the ravens worked for him,
1:16:03
but then would think about how Pluto
1:16:05
said that this land was outside of
1:16:08
the God's domain and he couldn't protect
1:16:10
her there. Sometimes her memories of her
1:16:12
old life would feel so distant it
1:16:14
was like radio programs of Roosevelt discussing
1:16:16
the war. And sometimes the locals would
1:16:19
talk about the Japanese fighting in Alaskan
1:16:21
outer lands, but that felt even farther
1:16:23
away than her current predicament predicament. Now
1:16:25
one day in the middle of the
1:16:28
summer, she was out later than normal,
1:16:30
and she's following a horse. And it
1:16:32
looks like... the one that she had
1:16:34
written on her final day in New
1:16:37
Orleans with Sammy. She wonders if it's
1:16:39
the same horse. But she thinks, nah,
1:16:41
surely it can't be. And it was
1:16:43
eating something on the path and part
1:16:45
of her thinks that it may have
1:16:48
been one of these gold nuggets that
1:16:50
she would leave in her footsteps. She
1:16:52
calls out to the horse and approaches
1:16:54
it, but if she gets very close
1:16:57
to it, it runs away. And it
1:16:59
seems to be too well groomed to
1:17:01
be a stray horse. I know nothing
1:17:03
about horses, but I was like, yeah,
1:17:05
hazel, you're correct, sure. I fully believe
1:17:08
you. She then spent the rest of
1:17:10
the day trying to catch this horse.
1:17:12
And she lost track of time, which
1:17:14
is easy to do because of the
1:17:17
sun being up all of the time.
1:17:19
There was a point in the day
1:17:21
in which she stopped to get a
1:17:23
drink of water, and she thought that
1:17:25
it was 3 p.m. by the position
1:17:28
of the sun. Which is... a lot.
1:17:30
So she immediately freaks out of, oh
1:17:32
my gosh, I'm going to be in
1:17:34
so much trouble. So then she asks
1:17:37
the horse, are you trying to get
1:17:39
me in trouble? And then the horse
1:17:41
winnies. And I was like, hmm, hmm.
1:17:43
But then it, quote, sped away in
1:17:46
a blur of black and tan faster
1:17:48
than forked lightning, almost too quick for
1:17:50
her eyes to register. Hazel didn't understand
1:17:52
how, but the horse was definitely gone.
1:17:54
And I'm wondering, looking at the crowd
1:17:57
but I need tempest to come back
1:17:59
so that tempest can start dating Black
1:18:01
Jack so I am invested in the
1:18:03
return of tempest so that we can
1:18:06
have the relationship with blackjack. But what
1:18:08
would tempest blackjack baby be named? Blackjack
1:18:10
tempest twister? Like it's a, like, because
1:18:12
don't the sky get really dark when
1:18:14
you have? I think so. A hurricane
1:18:17
of sorts? I got some nods. I
1:18:19
don't know if they know where I
1:18:21
know, but I guess I get it,
1:18:23
right? Did I guess it? Did they
1:18:26
get together and they have a child?
1:18:28
Okay. Wild. All right,
1:18:30
cool. Well, I guess everybody, did you guys
1:18:32
have to go to the Amish country for
1:18:34
field trips, too? Or is that just me
1:18:37
in Central Jersey? Oh, you live there? Oh,
1:18:39
okay, cool. Did you ride a horse? Did
1:18:41
you ride a horse? Was there horse parking
1:18:43
outside? No. Okay, cool. Did you ride a
1:18:46
horse? Was there horse parking outside? No. Okay,
1:18:48
was there horse parking, was there horse parking
1:18:50
outside? And they turned Buzzled order and gave
1:18:52
us and gave us. And gave us. And
1:18:55
gave us. I feel the kinship. Anyway, everyone
1:18:57
knows things about horse. I know nothing. I'm
1:18:59
just from Texas. Oh, okay. Yeah, I don't
1:19:01
know. I'm from Central Jersey where we make
1:19:04
fun of Boy Scouts for being Dewebs. Then
1:19:06
I moved to Texas and I tried to
1:19:08
make a joke about the Boy Scouts being
1:19:10
Dewebs and every single person in my high
1:19:13
school was an Eagle Scout and I was
1:19:15
like, oh no, am I the weird one?
1:19:17
And I was. How many people emailed you
1:19:19
about you about the fact that most Texansons
1:19:22
call Soda Coke? Uh, wait, is this in
1:19:24
reference to... I know you like did like
1:19:26
a whole thing on that. Why, so I,
1:19:28
here's the wild thing is I did the
1:19:30
show in Georgia. There was a heated debate
1:19:33
at the Georgia live show of if people
1:19:35
in Georgia call all soda coke. People at
1:19:37
the live show call all soda coke. People
1:19:39
at the live show call all soda coke.
1:19:42
People at the live show call all soda
1:19:44
coke. People at the live show call all
1:19:46
soda coke. People at. to me after the
1:19:48
show and said this is not a thing.
1:19:51
And then people emailed their like, I don't
1:19:53
know what that person was talking about. We
1:19:55
definitely do do. I'm like, I feel like
1:19:57
the city of Atlanta or the state of
1:20:00
Georgia needs to settle this and then get
1:20:02
back to me because no one knows what's
1:20:04
going on. So why are you angry at
1:20:06
me? Please leave me out of this. No,
1:20:09
but I was, it's a, it's a very
1:20:11
Texas thing though. It is definitely a Texas
1:20:13
thing to do because I came to deal
1:20:15
with it when I worked a popular secret
1:20:18
kitchen. Yeah. It was the first time I
1:20:20
experienced it and I was like, this is
1:20:22
absurd. Why would you choose to choose to
1:20:24
do this? Whatever type of coke you want?
1:20:26
What's that? Dr. Pepper's not a type of
1:20:29
coke. It's a different, okay, we have
1:20:31
to talk about the book. So I
1:20:33
hope this is tempest quite a bit.
1:20:35
Anyway, Percy Jackson. Now in addition to
1:20:37
my theory of this maybe being tempest,
1:20:39
or at least a magical horse and
1:20:41
not a regular horse, is that there
1:20:43
is a bit of steam on the
1:20:45
ground where the horse was. So it
1:20:47
seems like some sort of magical element
1:20:49
is afoot. Then Hazel hears the train
1:20:51
whistle again, so she rushes home to
1:20:53
avoid being in even more trouble. But
1:20:55
when she gets home, her mother's not
1:20:57
there. And at first, she feels relieved.
1:21:00
And when it said at first, I
1:21:02
was like, ah, that means she's about
1:21:04
to feel worried. Context clues, reading comprehension.
1:21:06
Then immediately she sees the wreckage of
1:21:08
the house. Her curtain is down, her
1:21:10
chest is open, her clothes have been
1:21:12
tossed all about, her mattress is torn
1:21:14
up, her gifted color pencils are all
1:21:16
broken, the one thing she had from
1:21:18
her dad destroyed, and there is a
1:21:20
note on the wall written in not
1:21:22
her mother's handwriting that says, wicked girl,
1:21:24
I'm waiting at the island, don't disappoint
1:21:26
me. So I'm guessing the voice when
1:21:28
it possesses her, it also has different
1:21:30
handwriting. Like that's also the vibe,
1:21:32
I guess. What is handwriting if
1:21:34
not your written voice? So that
1:21:36
happens, I know deep, right? Yeah.
1:21:38
So I'm at least assuming at
1:21:40
this point, like, okay, this feels like
1:21:42
the voice possessing her mom, not like
1:21:45
a third person has come in and
1:21:47
been like, I've got your mom on
1:21:49
the island back. Yeah, that would be
1:21:52
a complex story at that point. Yeah,
1:21:54
like a new person. We've met yet.
1:21:56
So then hazel after seeing this
1:21:58
just thinks I. I don't want
1:22:00
to go, but I know that I
1:22:03
have to go, especially because apparently they
1:22:05
are almost done with the task. According
1:22:07
to The Voice, which feels very much
1:22:09
like, I don't know, like Missouri in
1:22:11
Baldur's get-through, it's like, just one more
1:22:14
thing, and I promise I'll let Will
1:22:16
free, like any sort of evil person
1:22:18
that has someone as the person doing
1:22:20
their bidding, they're always one thing away,
1:22:22
like, like, there's no ever getting out.
1:22:25
So I don't know if that's a
1:22:27
reputable source for them almost being done
1:22:29
with the task, but at least Hazel
1:22:31
is thinking maybe if we can just
1:22:33
help her finish the task, she'll set
1:22:36
my mom free. So I did finish
1:22:38
this chapter, so I'm going to just
1:22:40
not say anything. There you go. Yeah,
1:22:42
yeah. I read a little bit more,
1:22:44
but then got to a certain point
1:22:47
where I was like, we're not going
1:22:49
to get to this in the live
1:22:51
show, so I won't go any further.
1:22:53
So yeah, yeah, full disclosure. I've not
1:22:55
completely finished Chapter 17, so we'll just
1:22:58
keep on. Now I am ahead of
1:23:00
you again. The balance is back. The
1:23:02
table sector. So Hazel took the rowboat
1:23:04
and sailed out amongst chunks of ice
1:23:06
that are there, even though it's the
1:23:09
summer, because it is still Alaska. She
1:23:11
gets to this Black Sand Beach Island,
1:23:13
and narrator Hazel says, quote, if the
1:23:15
island had a name, she didn't know
1:23:17
it. Once, Hazel had a name, she
1:23:20
didn't know it. Once, Hazel had made
1:23:22
the mistake of asking the townsfolk, but
1:23:24
they had stared at her like she
1:23:26
was crazy. And he says that he
1:23:28
would have ran in. to this island.
1:23:31
So very interesting situation of what's going
1:23:33
on here. Do we have a Calypso's
1:23:35
island? Like it exists in a different
1:23:37
realm sort of thing. It just feels
1:23:39
like something magic is afoot. So she
1:23:42
gets to the island and then a
1:23:44
raven lands on her boat as she
1:23:46
pulls in, again, ominous vibe, and its
1:23:48
eyes gleam with intelligence. And the good
1:23:50
thing about this is it makes what
1:23:53
happens next less startling for her. It
1:23:55
speaks. And it says, tonight, the last
1:23:57
night. And she asks, are you my
1:23:59
dad. Are you my dad? And then
1:24:01
it goes. the last night tonight and
1:24:04
I like the reverse and it could
1:24:06
only make me think of the song
1:24:08
from high school musical three Was it
1:24:10
a night of our lives where it's
1:24:12
like, tonight, the night, on the night
1:24:15
of nights, two nights, getting ready, getting
1:24:17
ready, which Kelly and I sing every
1:24:19
single time we're getting ready, especially now
1:24:21
that we have a daughter that we're
1:24:23
getting ready, so it's like, all right,
1:24:26
little one, time, to get ready, so
1:24:28
it's like, all right, little one, time
1:24:30
to get ready. And then we're like
1:24:32
trying to go with the last night,
1:24:34
tonight. Then narrator hazel has this line,
1:24:37
which we will end this section of
1:24:39
the episode in the show with quote
1:24:41
The last night hazel told herself she
1:24:43
decided to take it as a promise
1:24:45
No matter what she tells me. I
1:24:48
will make this the last night Don't
1:24:50
done dramatic cliffhanger. So that is where
1:24:52
we will end this portion of the
1:24:54
episode if you're listening afterwards. We'll take
1:24:57
another quick break and then we'll get
1:24:59
into the Q&A Hey,
1:25:01
it's Mike here just with one more break because
1:25:03
this is a longer episode I do have two
1:25:06
notes here before we get into the Q&A though
1:25:08
first you may have heard me say that the
1:25:10
thing That hazel says to the bird is are
1:25:12
you my dad? I think it was actually a
1:25:14
miswriting in my notes I think I thought that
1:25:16
it said are you my dad, but upon rereading
1:25:19
it and I hope I saved this properly in
1:25:21
the next episode when we pick up from this
1:25:23
upon reread it says are you from my dad
1:25:25
which makes more sense but are you my dad
1:25:27
is way funnier but that was the issue there
1:25:29
now speaking of issues there will be a point
1:25:32
towards the very very very end of this episode
1:25:34
like the last question of Q&A where the audio
1:25:36
distinctly switches in quality I don't know what happened
1:25:38
with the recording but it kind of stopped short
1:25:40
thankfully I was filming the show in the video
1:25:42
version of this is up on patron for all
1:25:45
teen you know patrons and Sharon I took the
1:25:47
audio from that which I took the audio from
1:25:49
that which that in for the very ending portion.
1:25:51
So that is the audio switch. You'll hear that
1:25:53
change. But now you're going to hear some more
1:25:55
ads and then we'll get into the Q&A a
1:25:58
very fun Q&A. Lots of fun conversations, many of
1:26:00
them about Wawa. This episode of The New Olympian
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get into Q&A! So this is from
1:27:45
Ritchie. Subject line is 109876ers, which is
1:27:47
the best song of any sports team,
1:27:49
like no doubt 100% after the Sixers
1:27:51
win a game. It's the song where
1:27:53
they go. One, two, three, four, five,
1:27:56
sixers. Ten. It's so good. It's so
1:27:58
good. I love it so much. So,
1:28:00
Richie says, for those who need the
1:28:02
ketchup, can you give an Eola style
1:28:04
out-of-breath news anchor recap of the Heroes
1:28:06
of Olympus series so far? Oh, so
1:28:08
like really quickly in case people are
1:28:11
like knock on up with the podcast.
1:28:13
Okay. I guess, spoiler alert? Question mark?
1:28:15
All right. We meet a new friend
1:28:17
Jason and everyone goes who the hell
1:28:19
is Jason and he's on a bus
1:28:21
with his friends Leo and Piper who
1:28:23
he definitely feels like he knows But
1:28:25
then soon it's established that he doesn't
1:28:28
actually know them in the memories are
1:28:30
fake They get attacked by wind spirits
1:28:32
called venti in Las Vegas. They go
1:28:34
to like a Grand Canyon, they go
1:28:36
to like a school for trouble kids,
1:28:38
think camp Green Lake from holes. So
1:28:40
they go there and then there's a
1:28:42
big attack and then there's Coach Hedge
1:28:45
who is like their coach who we
1:28:47
learn is like their actual Sator Protector,
1:28:49
and then he gets basically sacrifices himself
1:28:51
in the windspheres, take him away, then
1:28:53
Annabeth and this guy Butch is the
1:28:55
son of virus, they take them over
1:28:57
to camp half blood, then a camp
1:28:59
half a car, like Jason, you should
1:29:02
be dead. for a second. Jason calls
1:29:04
him. Jason calls him Vulcan, which is
1:29:06
the first clue that Jason's got like
1:29:08
Roman background and stuff. Then we get
1:29:10
a visit of Hera in the mix,
1:29:12
but it's Juno Hera to Jason. And
1:29:14
then basically we learn that like Hera's
1:29:17
been captured by some sort of evil
1:29:19
meaning. And then we also learn that
1:29:21
Piper's dad, who's a famous movie star,
1:29:23
has been held captive by this evil
1:29:25
giant called enchaladas. And then they have
1:29:27
to go on this big quest to
1:29:29
try and save Hera. So they go
1:29:31
up and visit. like wind gods in
1:29:34
Montreal or no in Quebec City and
1:29:36
then they go into the Chicago area
1:29:38
and they have to deal with Medea
1:29:40
and then they go to Montana and
1:29:42
they have to deal or no Omaha
1:29:44
Nebraska and they have to deal with
1:29:46
King Midas and then they go to
1:29:48
Colorado and they meet up with our
1:29:51
good Palthalia and Lake Aon this like
1:29:53
evil wolf guy then they go to
1:29:55
Aolis King of the winds who's like
1:29:57
in this mountain above this like Pike's
1:29:59
Peak in Colorado, then turns out that
1:30:01
he's actually compromised by the evil person,
1:30:03
then they have to go to California,
1:30:06
where they have to fight off the
1:30:08
Ice Princess, who is with the wind
1:30:10
people, they fight her off, then they
1:30:12
have to fight, or no, just kidding,
1:30:14
they go to Mount Diablo, which I
1:30:16
predicted earlier, they go to Mount Diabolo,
1:30:18
they fight off in Jaladas, they save
1:30:20
Piper's dad, then they go, they fight
1:30:23
off the Ice Princess in California, and
1:30:25
then the bigger giant who was like
1:30:27
the bigger giant who was like sucking
1:30:29
the power of her. because Hera turns
1:30:31
into a nuke, and then Jason dies,
1:30:33
but comes back, he's chill, and then
1:30:35
they go back to camp Half Blood,
1:30:37
and Jason's like, oh my god, I
1:30:40
remember some stuff now, but not everything,
1:30:42
because Hera lied to me. And I
1:30:44
think that there's a Roman camp, and
1:30:46
Percy's at it, and then that's the
1:30:48
end of the book, right? That feels
1:30:50
like, we done it, excellent. Basketball
1:30:55
question for the horse fans out there. How
1:30:57
do you feel about Joel and Bede's load
1:30:59
management plan and never playing back-to-backs again? Good
1:31:02
or bad for the Sixers this season. Bad,
1:31:04
because he's good at basketball, so if he's
1:31:06
not playing as much, not ideal. But if
1:31:08
it works and it pans out in the
1:31:11
playoffs, then it's good. And it's definitely panned
1:31:13
out before, like Kauai Leonard, so there's surely
1:31:15
no problem with a load management program for
1:31:17
a star with an injury history. Subject line
1:31:20
welcome back to Doylestown. Hi Mike, welcome back
1:31:22
to Doylestown. So glad to have you back.
1:31:24
Special thanks for the Central Jersey shout out.
1:31:26
I spend most of my days arguing with
1:31:28
college students that it exists. It exists. I
1:31:31
don't get it. It exists. It exists. It
1:31:33
exists. It exists. Don't let me in. It
1:31:35
exists. Don't lump me in. It exists. It
1:31:37
exists. Don't lump me in. It exists. Don't
1:31:40
lump me in. It exists. Don't let me
1:31:42
in North Jersey, it exists. Don't. Don't. Don't.
1:31:44
Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. It exists. Don't.
1:31:46
Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't.
1:31:48
Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. It exists.
1:31:51
Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't.
1:31:53
Don't. Oh, so I couldn't
1:31:55
care less about football. Why aren't you
1:31:57
talking about Franklin, the very good... Six
1:31:59
or's dog? Yeah! A godly parent, who
1:32:02
would they be and why? Specifically, who's
1:32:04
Gritty's godly parent? Okay. Gritty, I would
1:32:06
think, he's the big orange goofier. Yeah,
1:32:08
I know Gritty, I don't know the
1:32:10
others, but. I feel like Hermes, just
1:32:12
because he feels like the type to
1:32:14
play pranks, so like trickster god of
1:32:17
sorts? Or unless there's like, God, some
1:32:19
god of chaos. Who's the most boring?
1:32:21
Look, you could have made the mascot
1:32:23
Ballin Ben Franklin, but you made it
1:32:25
a dog because of dog. So maybe
1:32:27
the Philly Fanatic instead is Hermes. And
1:32:30
then swoop, I don't know, Harry's because
1:32:32
football? I don't know. And then Franklin,
1:32:34
who's the most boring? God. Who's the
1:32:36
most boring guy? Look, you could have
1:32:38
made the mascot Ballin Ben Franklin, but
1:32:40
you made it a dog because the
1:32:42
prototype for the Ben Franklin one scared
1:32:45
children. Was this a good idea? Probably.
1:32:47
a giant Ben Franklin running around Sixers
1:32:49
games? Yes! Am I the target demographic
1:32:51
for mascots? No! Was I terrified of
1:32:53
humanoid mascots when I was a child?
1:32:55
Yes! My parents went to Ruckers and
1:32:58
they have a big Scarlet Night. I
1:33:00
did not like the Scarlet Night. I
1:33:02
did not enjoy the Scarlet Night. He
1:33:04
had a big, like, like, foam head.
1:33:06
I did not like the Scarlet Night.
1:33:08
But if you ever see this old
1:33:10
game called Tony Hawks Underground 2, you
1:33:13
can play as Benjamin Franklin. You can.
1:33:15
And do like kick flips, it's great.
1:33:17
And isn't one of his things like
1:33:19
you grind and then you have like
1:33:21
the kite that's like, got lightning bolt
1:33:23
going? That might be one of his
1:33:26
things like you grind and then you
1:33:28
have like the kite that's like got
1:33:30
lightning bolt going? That might be one
1:33:32
of my knowledge where I've beat at
1:33:34
least 35 at least, at least 35,
1:33:36
at least, at least 35, and I'm
1:33:38
a, and I'm a free. And I'm
1:33:41
a free. And I'm a free. and
1:33:43
late night Wawa patron. So my question
1:33:45
is, what do you think the Percy
1:33:47
Jacksoner here? Is the Olympus characters go
1:33:49
to Wawa Order would be? Okay. All
1:33:51
right. Percy's just getting a bunch of
1:33:54
blue candy and blue drinks and all
1:33:56
that kind of stuff. Annabeth is like
1:33:58
going to the sandwich machine and like
1:34:00
artisanal. crafting a great sandwich. Grover's just
1:34:02
getting all the to-go silverware and napkins.
1:34:04
Jason is just gonna get a hot
1:34:06
dog because he's an American! Piper's gonna
1:34:09
get some veggie bull-crap sandwich that has
1:34:11
been there for way too long because
1:34:13
no one is buying it. And then
1:34:15
Leo, I guess- Talkies. Yeah, that's correct,
1:34:17
yeah, that's correct. I can say it,
1:34:19
Talkies. Correct, correct, correct, correct, great. This
1:34:22
one's from Miles. Tyson is gonna get
1:34:24
chocolate milk. Oh yeah, and that is
1:34:26
the most correct choice. This one's gonna
1:34:28
get chocolate milk. Oh yeah, and that
1:34:30
is the most correct choice. Since from
1:34:32
Miles. Hey guys, this is my most
1:34:34
correct choice. This is my most correct
1:34:37
choice. So it's from Miles, is horny.
1:34:39
They're two of the romanceable characters. It's
1:34:41
nothing again. They're very hot. I don't
1:34:43
blame you They're so hot. They're so
1:34:45
hot. Everyone is but those two are
1:34:47
so hot. I haven't played much of
1:34:50
Hades too yet So yeah, okay. Hades
1:34:52
one favorite character Gosh, I like Poseidon
1:34:54
a lot. He's so fun. He's so
1:34:56
fun. But it is impossible not to
1:34:58
pick Boldie the Boulder do you have
1:35:00
a favorite character? You're rid of C
1:35:02
for sure oh that is good. Oh
1:35:05
that is good. Oh Even if it's
1:35:07
not the right choice in the run,
1:35:09
I always go to see your legacy.
1:35:11
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, this is from
1:35:13
Miriam, all caps. Important to you in
1:35:15
a Wawa question. Hello, this is my
1:35:18
first live show. Happy to be here.
1:35:20
You said you loved Wawa and I
1:35:22
wanted. to know what you think each
1:35:24
person's got, where did it, nailed it.
1:35:26
Important question, asked and answered. There are
1:35:28
two wallas in Doyle's town, says Brooke
1:35:30
in her subject line. Thank you for
1:35:33
making a good thing happen this week.
1:35:35
I think the magic train thing might
1:35:37
be a reference to the Grey Sister's
1:35:39
taxi, but it could be a hugwords
1:35:41
ew reference too. I doubt. My question
1:35:43
is, what would the gang go to
1:35:46
wallas next? Wow, we've done it, we've
1:35:48
done it. Well, okay, okay, okay, let's
1:35:50
see, let's see, uh, uh, uh, uh,
1:35:52
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
1:35:54
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
1:35:56
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
1:35:58
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
1:36:01
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
1:36:03
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
1:36:05
uh, uh, uh, And then Doylstown baby.
1:36:07
in parentheses. Hey Mike, big fan of
1:36:09
the pod. This is my second live
1:36:11
show and it's been super fun. My
1:36:14
question for you and Stephen is, what
1:36:16
would the Percy Jackson characters be if
1:36:18
they were animated Disney slash Pixar characters?
1:36:20
Ooh, okay. different animated Pixar or Disney
1:36:22
magazine. Oh, like that. That's good. That's
1:36:24
good. That's good. I did see a
1:36:26
thing on the subreddit that was like,
1:36:29
don't call them sparky. Call them lightning
1:36:31
McLean. It's pretty good. It's pretty good.
1:36:33
Let's see. Grover is the nature mountains
1:36:35
from the thing they play before Moana.
1:36:37
The like, I lava, you thing. Because
1:36:39
it's all nature pan and stuff. He's
1:36:42
the guy mountain from the lava thing.
1:36:44
Tyson, who's just like the goodest, Doug
1:36:46
from up, is Tyson? Oh yeah. And
1:36:48
then Anna Beth is, I don't know,
1:36:50
like a very like put together know-it-all-the-type,
1:36:52
but like not annoyingly so. Maybe like
1:36:54
Mrs. Incredible or something? Like just like
1:36:57
very competent. I'm with that, yeah. But
1:36:59
also can like hold her own in
1:37:01
a battle. Percy, who's like our beloved
1:37:03
main character that's like kind of a
1:37:05
goof? Flint Rider. Yeah, yeah,
1:37:07
yeah, that could be good. They could
1:37:10
be good. And then Coach Hedge is
1:37:12
Buzz Layer when he's in a tax
1:37:14
mode. Can't he just be Phyllisite? Oh,
1:37:16
you're right. Yeah, yeah, the Satres could
1:37:18
just be Phil. Yeah, there's a lot
1:37:20
of good stuff in there. Yeah, yeah,
1:37:22
yeah, that's fun. Okay, Coach Hedge is
1:37:24
like much more Phil. Phil, he's definitely,
1:37:26
he's very Phil, for sure. Okay. This
1:37:28
is from Megan and Liam. Our question
1:37:30
is, if you were to swap characters
1:37:32
places in the story, example, Percy gets
1:37:35
turned into a pine tree three years
1:37:37
beforehand, or Annabeth is a mortal who
1:37:39
becomes an oracle, what characters would you
1:37:41
most want to see in another situation?
1:37:43
Also, here's a photo of a cat
1:37:45
whose name deafer, the one and only
1:37:47
Percy Jackson. He's a very cute, very
1:37:49
good boy, very good boy. It's a
1:37:51
sleepy, sleepy, sleepy, look at that. Podcast
1:37:53
people are at home. Sokes to suck,
1:37:55
that's why you gotta come to live
1:37:57
shows. in different stories. I mean, Percy
1:37:59
as a tree would be funny because
1:38:02
he'd be so mad about it. He'd
1:38:04
be so upset about it. It took
1:38:06
you this long to get me out
1:38:08
of the tree. He'd be furious. I
1:38:10
mean, I would love to see someone
1:38:12
grumpier be captured by polyphemous alike. Clarice
1:38:14
does get captured, but if Clarice fully
1:38:16
went through the like grover wedding dress
1:38:18
and all that stuff, like she'd be
1:38:20
so mad. I think that would be
1:38:22
really fun. I love that we were
1:38:24
both thinking of Sea of Monsters. I
1:38:27
was just thinking of swapping the Sators.
1:38:29
So like Coach Hedge. Oh, yeah, that's
1:38:31
good. In the dress, trying to like.
1:38:33
Yeah, that's really good. I also think
1:38:35
it would just be fun just from
1:38:37
like a main character thing of like,
1:38:39
what if Grover was around in the
1:38:41
Sea of Monsters? What if Annabith was
1:38:43
around a Titan's curse? Like not even
1:38:45
like huge position things, but just like,
1:38:47
how do all of those? fights and
1:38:49
things that they do across the way.
1:38:51
Like, how do all of those differ
1:38:54
just by having this person around? I
1:38:56
think that's fun. And that feels like
1:38:58
ripe for fan fiction of just like,
1:39:00
alternate universe. Like, what if Tyson was
1:39:02
here for this book instead kind of
1:39:04
thing? Okay, this one's from Bella. First
1:39:06
official live. Hello, I'm a longtime listener.
1:39:08
This is my first time at a
1:39:10
live show. What do you think will
1:39:12
happen? Or what would you like to
1:39:14
see happen in this quest? I would
1:39:16
like to see them succeed. I would
1:39:19
like to see them succeed. As far
1:39:21
as what will happen, I guess I'll
1:39:23
kind of go off what I was
1:39:25
saying, like, they'll go to Seattle. I
1:39:27
feel like it's gonna be some sort
1:39:29
of magical help that is not people
1:39:31
fighting. There's gonna definitely be stops along
1:39:33
the way before they get to Alaska,
1:39:35
where they're gonna have to like fight
1:39:37
some people and overcome stuff. But like
1:39:39
my big overarching thing is like, I
1:39:41
think they're gonna get to Alaska. I
1:39:43
think they are gonna like win this
1:39:46
fight and like get the eagle and
1:39:48
everything. They'll come back for the evil
1:39:50
for the evil and everything. then I
1:39:52
guess Tyson shows up and then they
1:39:54
win that one as well and then
1:39:56
there's gonna be some sort of thing
1:39:58
where like at the end of this
1:40:00
book there's gonna be the revelation to
1:40:02
Percy of like what's been going on
1:40:04
and then the beginning of book three
1:40:06
is like starting to resolve it because
1:40:08
like timeline wise it seems like this
1:40:11
one is going to end by the
1:40:13
time our camp half-blood friends are like
1:40:15
ready to go to Greece so it
1:40:17
feels like this will end with like.
1:40:19
We got to go to Greece and
1:40:21
then book three is like Greece. So,
1:40:23
that's at least where I'm at. Do
1:40:25
you have any prediction since you have
1:40:27
not read past? Yeah, it's actually kind
1:40:29
of cool that I can sort of.
1:40:31
Yeah, what do you got? Yeah, I
1:40:33
mean, I think this Gorgen's blood just
1:40:35
has to come into play. This seems
1:40:38
to be like Chekhov's Gorgen's blood. Oh,
1:40:40
this seems to be like, there's got
1:40:42
to be some shenanigans about like this.
1:40:44
giant can't lose in his home domain
1:40:46
like they're gonna do something like it
1:40:48
feels like tricky shenanigans to like get
1:40:50
him technically out like we're technically in
1:40:52
Russia now like yeah That feels like
1:40:54
that. That's a good prediction. I feel
1:40:56
like that's going to have to come
1:40:58
into play. I'm just going to call
1:41:00
it shot that there's going to be
1:41:03
like an army of guinea pigs. It's
1:41:05
probably not going to have it. I
1:41:07
like it though. I like it. I
1:41:09
think it's good. I think that's really
1:41:11
fun. This next question is from Zach.
1:41:13
Zach says, hey Shubes. In celebration. I
1:41:15
think it's good. I think that's really
1:41:17
fun. This is really fun. and what
1:41:19
would their in-game nicknames be? Really enjoying
1:41:21
the show. So I'm very happy that
1:41:23
backyard baseball is now available on steam,
1:41:25
but it is not available for Max,
1:41:27
but it's okay because I still have
1:41:30
backyard baseball installed in my computer. I
1:41:32
have an emulator that has one game
1:41:34
on it, backyard baseball, 2001, the ideal
1:41:36
backyard baseball. So I have pulled it
1:41:38
up to directly look at all the
1:41:40
team names. So our options, are you
1:41:42
used to do a more of a
1:41:44
backyard soccer guy, right? The Melonheads, the,
1:41:46
when you like create your own team
1:41:48
and you don't pick one of the
1:41:50
MLB teams. The Melonheads, the hornets, the
1:41:52
bombers, and the fishes. And then you
1:41:55
get to pick an adjective for your
1:41:57
team. The adjectives are, and I think
1:41:59
they're in alphabetical order, so let's go
1:42:01
to the, yep, let's go to the
1:42:03
beginning. Blue, crazy, green, humongous, junior, little,
1:42:05
mighty, red, super. super white and that's
1:42:07
it so I would feel like Percy's
1:42:09
gonna be the fishes just feels yeah
1:42:11
normal there I would say the bombers
1:42:13
that feels like Tyson to me just
1:42:15
because he was so good at the
1:42:17
Lestrogonian exploding cannonball Dodgeball I feel like
1:42:19
Leo kind of slides in there for
1:42:22
some reason too. Yeah just fire and
1:42:24
that makes sense and then let's see
1:42:26
the monsters I guess all of the
1:42:28
villains are the monsters the wombats maybe
1:42:30
grover because of like animals and nature
1:42:32
and stuff yeah the hornets. Hmm. Luke.
1:42:34
Oh, because he's a real pain. Yeah,
1:42:36
he's a real pain. Yeah, he's a
1:42:38
real pain. Yep. And then the melon
1:42:40
heads, which is, it's all the coolest
1:42:42
logo. It's just like a guy whose
1:42:44
head is a watermelon. It's so good.
1:42:47
Melon heads is fun. Does anyone have
1:42:49
a canonically big head in the books?
1:42:51
The melon heads. Melon heads. Aries? I
1:42:53
don't really know who would be the
1:42:55
Melonid. It's a bit of a Melonhead.
1:42:57
It sounds like he would call people
1:42:59
Melonid. Yeah. Would have Melonidid. Well, it
1:43:01
takes one to no one, yeah. So
1:43:03
maybe, yeah, maybe Arias is there. Maybe
1:43:05
Corisis on the Melonheads. Cool. All right,
1:43:07
sweet. That was asked and answered. Love
1:43:09
that. Great. This one is from Kelsey,
1:43:11
Doylestown, and quotes live show. First off,
1:43:14
Walmart Pizza is awful. Okay, glad to
1:43:16
have the confirmation. But I highly recommend
1:43:18
their mac and cheese. Someone else also
1:43:20
recommended mac and cheese. Okay. In a
1:43:22
previous email, but it was a question
1:43:24
I think we had already answered. Mac
1:43:26
and cheese. Okay. In a previously moment,
1:43:28
it was a question I think we
1:43:30
had already answered. Their mac and cheese.
1:43:32
Okay. In a previous email, but it
1:43:34
was a question I think we had
1:43:36
already answered. I think we had. has
1:43:39
changed as the series has continued and
1:43:41
as you go through your life. I
1:43:43
think no. I feel like if anything,
1:43:45
the more I go on, I feel
1:43:47
more justified in those selections. So I
1:43:49
feel good. I guess as you as
1:43:51
a more unbiased party, do you feel
1:43:53
like I'm like Percy and Kelly's like
1:43:55
Annabeth? Or do you think there's more
1:43:57
differences as we learn more about? two
1:43:59
friends. I mean I think y'all still
1:44:01
kind of line up pretty well. I
1:44:03
was re-listening to the chapters and the
1:44:05
drive down because it takes a bit
1:44:08
to get here from New York and
1:44:10
like literally the the whole thing where
1:44:12
it's just like I think it sounds
1:44:14
Greek I'm like well that narrows it
1:44:16
down I'm like that sounds like a
1:44:18
conversation we would have had yeah so
1:44:20
like yeah no it's still very Mike.
1:44:22
Let's first see. Yeah, I mean, look,
1:44:24
when you have an architect and a
1:44:26
trash talker, like it just, it just
1:44:28
lines up. Okay, this one's from Tristan
1:44:30
and Amanda. It says, Shubes, if you
1:44:32
could bring back any character, PJO or
1:44:34
otherwise, back from the dead, but you
1:44:36
had to kill another character from that
1:44:38
universe, who would you choose? Okay, has
1:44:40
anyone died in HOLO and stayed dead
1:44:42
so that I can kill Octavian? Because
1:44:44
I would love that so much. I
1:44:46
don't like him. Has it? No one's,
1:44:48
no one's died and stayed dead yet.
1:44:51
Gwen almost died, but then she was
1:44:53
okay. You don't want to bring back
1:44:55
Lee Fletcher? Pain. Let's see. So let's
1:44:57
go to Percy Jackson then. Yeah,
1:44:59
bring him back, bring him back,
1:45:01
Beckendorf, and then can I kill
1:45:03
Selina a second time? She's not
1:45:06
good. She's not good. I'll bring,
1:45:08
but yeah, let's bring back Beckendorf,
1:45:10
Beckendorf, and then I gotta kill
1:45:12
somebody. Uh, is there anyone, like,
1:45:14
that's, I mean, it's a shame, because
1:45:16
at this point, like, past the end
1:45:18
of the book, like, there's no, like,
1:45:20
evil, PJO people left, so I feel bad, killing
1:45:23
them. So could I pick, it's just a character, so
1:45:25
I can just pick, like, someone evil, did any, are
1:45:27
there any, like, monsters or something that we're still afoot
1:45:29
that I could get rid of? Like, Mrs. Dodds? That
1:45:31
means the monsters will come back. So like, yeah, let's
1:45:33
just get rid of, just get rid of Mrs. Dodds.
1:45:36
Sure, yeah, but one of the monsters, okay, I don't
1:45:38
care, they'll come back, there's no harm done, whatever. All
1:45:40
right, this one's from Abby, says, I'm a long time
1:45:42
listener, currently repping my violent purple. Oh, nice, big fan,
1:45:44
and fellow pigeon enthusiast, also Central Jersey Denire. It says,
1:45:46
please don't stop reading this email, I really want to
1:45:49
stop reading this email, I really want to stop reading
1:45:51
this email, I really want to stop reading this email, I really want
1:45:53
to stop reading this email, I really want to stop reading this email,
1:45:55
I really want to stop reading, I really want to stop reading this
1:45:57
email, I really want to stop reading, I really want to stop reading
1:45:59
this email, What would your Roman God persona be?
1:46:01
Name, appearance, personality differences. The newest new Roman,
1:46:04
if you will. Highly recommend the Wawa Buffalo
1:46:06
Chicken Case idea. Love the show, Abby. Okay,
1:46:08
so we have Roman versions of ourselves. So
1:46:10
if they're like a little bit different. So
1:46:12
I guess like if you if you add
1:46:15
like a if we're saying the Greek is
1:46:17
like the true you, if you have the
1:46:19
Roman like alternate you, what would what would
1:46:21
it be? I guess like my alternate like
1:46:23
to be more proper. I feel like appearance-wise
1:46:26
it would be my pre-flopy hair when I
1:46:28
had more of just kind of like a
1:46:30
buzz-cuddy, like, guile from street fighter kind of
1:46:32
look. Not an ideal situation. Basically my Roman,
1:46:34
I'm just describing engineering my chuber as my
1:46:37
Roman persona. Do you have an alternate, yeah.
1:46:39
I guess it's the alternate reality in which
1:46:41
the podcast doesn't take off and I'm still
1:46:43
like an engineer, but I don't like it.
1:46:45
What about you? I mean, I think the
1:46:48
more easy thing is the Greek version of
1:46:50
me is Grover and the Roman one is
1:46:52
Leo, I guess, but not exactly what the
1:46:54
question's asking. So I guess, okay. I guess,
1:46:56
I think like in the moment what you're
1:46:59
saying, it probably be someone that's like, no,
1:47:01
I'm Dr. Para, hello. How's it going? Yes,
1:47:03
so we're just very boring in our internet.
1:47:05
Okay. I got it. Go, go, go. All
1:47:07
right. Hey, it's Mike from the future real
1:47:10
quick. The audio is about to drastically change.
1:47:12
It's not your ears. It's not your headphones.
1:47:14
It's not your computer. It's not your phone.
1:47:16
It's not your car. It's the recording stopped
1:47:18
early. So we had to switch to the
1:47:20
audio that I had from the camera for
1:47:23
the Patreon bonus video version of the live
1:47:25
show. So that's why it's why it's about
1:47:27
to about to switch. It's about to switch.
1:47:29
You're about to switch. You're about to switch.
1:47:31
You're not. losing your mind or your drums.
1:47:34
You're good. Okay, here's the rest of the
1:47:36
episode. So this is from, this says it's
1:47:38
from Percy. Percy's in the crap. So this
1:47:40
will be your final question. Hey, Mike and
1:47:42
Dr. Parra. Hope you're having the lovely time
1:47:45
and Philly so far. I've been looking enough
1:47:47
to see you twice this year. Just moved
1:47:49
up here from here twice this year. Just
1:47:51
moved over here twice this year. Just moved
1:47:53
up here twice this year. Just moved up
1:47:56
to see you twice this. Twice moved up.
1:47:58
To see you. To see you've been looking
1:48:00
enough to see you twice this. I've been
1:48:02
looking enough to see you twice this. To
1:48:04
see you twice this. To see you twice
1:48:07
this. I've been looking enough to see you
1:48:09
twice this. To see you twice this. To
1:48:11
see you twice this. To see you twice
1:48:13
this. Just moved up. Just moved up. Just
1:48:15
moved up. Just moved over here. Just moved
1:48:18
up. Just moved up. Just moved up. Just
1:48:20
moved up. Just moved up I like it
1:48:22
a lot. It's one of those like I've
1:48:24
been meaning to rewatch it because I plowed
1:48:26
through it when I watch it the first
1:48:29
time. There was a time in my life
1:48:31
when I was like, oh, I'll use it.
1:48:33
I'll have it on as like a background
1:48:35
show while I'm doing stuff. I'll have it
1:48:37
on as like a background show while I'm
1:48:40
doing stuff while I'm doing stuff while I'm
1:48:42
doing stuff while I'm having it on as
1:48:44
like a background show while I'm doing stuff
1:48:46
while I'm doing stuff while I'm doing stuff
1:48:48
while I'm doing stuff while doing stuff while
1:48:51
doing. finishing up and I was a chemistry
1:48:53
major. So can you like make it? It's
1:48:55
not a complex time. People at university, do
1:48:57
you heard about it? They're like grad students
1:48:59
who legit got like in trouble with like
1:49:02
the authorities because they were making net in,
1:49:04
they were like legit doing it. They were
1:49:06
making net on campus. Which is like, what
1:49:08
are you doing? They get in your garage
1:49:10
like an horrible party to come up. All
1:49:13
right, but now into their actual question, which
1:49:15
is great to close a show. Do you
1:49:17
think you could take gritty and slash or
1:49:19
the Philly Fanatic in a fight? So... And
1:49:21
now also this, don't sleep on the Wawa
1:49:23
salads, they're surprisingly fresh and delicious. I have
1:49:26
had Wawa salads, they are surprisingly fresh and
1:49:28
delicious. So, Philly Fanatic and gritty in a
1:49:30
fight. I think, one on one, I can
1:49:32
take the fanatic, no problem. I feel very
1:49:34
confident. One on one against the fanatic, I
1:49:37
feel very confident in getting my ass handed
1:49:39
to me by grade. Because he's gonna like,
1:49:41
I feel like fighting gritting is like fighting
1:49:43
a W.W.E. character or wrestler or whatever, where
1:49:45
like we'd be fighting and then he would
1:49:48
like reach behind this curtain and there'd be
1:49:50
like a baseball bat with barbed wire around.
1:49:52
I feel like of course, you're gritting, yeah,
1:49:54
that makes sense. Do you think that? What
1:49:57
a perfect note to end the show! Thank you all so much for coming out
1:49:59
of here! I
1:50:04
appreciate it. We give it up to
1:50:06
Dr. Stephen for being an incredible guest.
1:50:08
Give it up to 80 for rocking
1:50:10
a number table and give it up
1:50:12
to everyone here at World Cafe Live.
1:50:14
This has been an awesome experience, like
1:50:16
so nice in terms of like setting
1:50:19
beforehand, doing the sound, the food, the
1:50:21
hospitality, the worship, like this was such
1:50:23
a smooth process, this was so so
1:50:25
nice. So please give it up to
1:50:27
all the folks here. Very, very, very
1:50:29
much. Appreciated. And I hope to come
1:50:31
back, this is very fun, always fun
1:50:34
to do the annual pilgrimage to Philly
1:50:36
to talk about books and stuff, or
1:50:38
sorry, to Doylestown. But until I find
1:50:40
my way back here to do another
1:50:42
show, until then, I'll per se your
1:50:44
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