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2:06

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2:13

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2:19

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2:21

sorry. Yes. But let's

2:24

hello, everyone, and welcome to this bonus

2:26

commentary track of the once in future nerd.

2:28

Today, we are going to be reviewing,

2:31

revisiting book one chapter

2:33

five, the worthiest night, I'm

2:35

Zach. I'm here joined as always with Christian.

2:37

Hi, Christian. Hi, guys. And

2:40

also with Anja Gibeon. Hello,

2:42

Anja. Hi. Hello. And

2:45

the incomparable Ian Harkins.

2:49

What's what was that? Hi. Now I need to

2:51

think of something to compare you to. I've got nothing.

2:53

Well, if I'm incomparable, then I

2:56

I can't be compared to anything. Just

2:58

like anything that's yeah.

3:01

Exactly. As as have

3:02

we all seen the court jester in nineteen fifty

3:04

four classic with Danny Kay and Bassil

3:06

Rathbone and Angela Landbury? I have now.

3:08

That's the one with get it got it good.

3:11

Yes. Yes. But, yes, I

3:13

watched the an There's the incomparable

3:14

Jacques Immu, so we could

3:17

compare you to that.

3:18

Done. That is who you're compared to.

3:20

Comparable only in his incomparableness.

3:23

Yes. Well,

3:25

banter

3:26

aside, today we're going to be listening

3:28

to, as I said, the worthiest night part one,

3:30

this -- Oh. -- all of the worthiest

3:32

night beginning with part one. This episode

3:35

first aired June eighth twenty

3:37

fourteen. Good god. Which

3:40

was was some time ago. So

3:43

so does anyone have

3:45

any any thoughts before we dive in? Any

3:47

thoughts about state of the world

3:49

in twenty fourteen or or personal

3:52

situations back then. Oh

3:54

my god. I was trying to remember what apartment

3:56

I lived in in twenty fourteen. And

3:59

now I

3:59

remember, and it was very small, and

4:02

the radiators were very loud. I

4:04

think I've regenerated since then.

4:06

Yeah. No. III can't

4:09

twenty fourteen, I was in

4:12

Brooklyn and the rest

4:14

is a blur. Yeah. I think I must

4:16

have I must have been I must have

4:18

been living in Harlem in twenty fourteen

4:20

and I was probably working

4:23

on Marco

4:25

Polo season one from

4:27

Netflix, I think. Wow.

4:30

Did that get a season two?

4:31

It did. I did not work on season two.

4:33

A it got a season too. I don't know if anybody watched

4:36

seasons. No shade to the

4:38

show. Although it was a it was a

4:40

Weinstein project, so some shade. And

4:42

there goes our prayers. And

4:45

on that note, should we just dive

4:47

in? Yeah. That's it. No.

4:49

Right. That's up to me. Okay. Here we go.

5:01

The

5:01

once and future nerd,

5:04

book one, princess of

5:06

Jordan.

5:07

Chapter five, the

5:10

worthiest night.

5:19

Episode one.

5:25

King Gunther's body floated

5:27

to the center of a small tranquil

5:30

lake. Brennan stood

5:32

and watched as his king, his

5:34

friend, began his final

5:36

journey to a watery rest. Reside

5:39

for eternity in Celburn. The

5:42

morning was silent, say for the

5:44

crackling flames of the king's payer

5:47

barge. A man

5:49

of Gunther Grenfell's status deserved

5:51

an elaborate barge painted

5:53

and carved. He

5:54

deserved to be sent off directly into

5:57

the sea of the ancestors attended

5:59

by dignitaries

5:59

from all corners of the world.

6:02

Instead, he was attended only

6:04

by Brenna and regen on

6:06

what might generously be called

6:08

a raft. The

6:10

silence stretched. Something

6:12

I'm aware of just technically from

6:14

from listening to this now. It's like

6:17

hitting words with that. I I've

6:19

gotten used now to listening

6:21

to podcasts that one point

6:23

five speeds, and so Still

6:26

A monster. I okay. I

6:28

have a lot to get through. But

6:31

just technically how we should

6:33

You know, we we do spend our

6:35

time in these and I think deserve this

6:37

so and just weaving the the story

6:40

together with that just a slower

6:42

pace that audio drama sometimes

6:44

demand. I'm a big fan

6:46

of of silence especially

6:48

in in audio drama. Like, I think,

6:50

you know, it lets the the audience read a

6:52

a lot into the

6:55

characters' emotions. Never

6:57

really thought about it.

6:58

Yes. That being said, I do also

7:01

partake in the one point five speed. I

7:04

do tend to play, you

7:07

know, talk and news podcast faster

7:09

than I do audio dramas, but I wouldn't be

7:11

I wouldn't be above putting an audio drama one

7:13

point one, one point two. I'm too

7:15

much of a snap. I I mean, I'll do it. I could

7:17

see it for talk shows,

7:19

but not comedy or fiction for

7:21

me. Less. Well,

7:24

talk

7:24

conversations like tend to be faster

7:27

paced because people are

7:28

not setting up like a conversation

7:31

for the purpose of like a

7:32

plot or something happening, but literally

7:35

just to talk about a topic. Yeah. So

7:37

things get, like, explained more rapidly.

7:39

And

7:39

yet you don't really have to pay as much attention

7:41

to, like, get the point because people tend to repeat

7:43

themselves.

7:43

Like, I just Yeah. That's good for

7:46

her. Or you Yeah. And and people tend

7:48

to repeat themselves. Rage

7:50

fighting. And each other to restate

7:52

the point a couple times. Yeah. And

7:54

each other. Oh, and then they'll restate the point once

7:56

or twice. But to bring it back,

7:58

I do I did really enjoy

7:59

the pacing of this scene. I really like the way

8:02

we set up that that funeral moment

8:04

for Yeah. That was the sleeping. That

8:06

was a nice moment. Seeing honored on it. And

8:08

this was I believe this was the last chapter

8:11

with Hayes Dunlap, who was our

8:13

first yellowing and

8:16

blue. Yes. Yes. Did the first

8:18

switch out? Yes. That was no.

8:20

The first switch out was Emily

8:24

who played Mia before.

8:27

Actually, no. First, it was

8:29

Paul subbed in for

8:31

-- Yes, ma'am. -- Harry did that. They --

8:33

Great. -- then it was Rihanna

8:35

in for Emily, and then it

8:37

was Greg in for

8:39

face. Was back in the group of

8:41

men.

8:41

Honor your god's damned post and

8:43

protect these children. Mia turned and

8:45

ran after the children, not

8:47

waiting for a response. Yellooine

8:49

hesitated a moment, but

8:51

just a moment before following.

8:55

We

8:55

should jump in that hay pile,

8:58

like a assassin's

8:58

creed. And then just

9:01

wait for them to stop investigating. Well,

9:03

when you say it like

9:05

that, That's Paul.

9:06

That's Paul. Yeah. What's definitely

9:09

Rihanna. Close on

9:10

the ladies I also like the assassin's screen

9:12

joke. Yes. Good. Recently. Yep.

9:14

I'm of a confrontation with I

9:17

first, which is, of course, won too

9:19

many for Gentile.

9:22

You must

9:22

have been so frightened. Oh, he only did

9:24

this. I had too many idea with the

9:26

hours brain.

9:27

On Lily, as when,

9:29

You're the bright one. What did you

9:31

say to her? She

9:34

asked why I cared

9:37

why I

9:37

was willing to risk

9:38

my life. And

9:41

I said,

9:43

well, I said.

9:45

As Madera the room,

9:47

the two women dove apart from each other.

9:49

You wench, come. If

9:51

you notice that I missed

9:54

I missed the early days of setting up

9:56

this this plot line,

9:58

smoking. A cruel

9:59

twist at

9:59

the corner of his mouth.

10:02

It did have a long setup

10:04

for us. Where are you? A pretty satisfying fall

10:06

at the end. Now that we're we are now in

10:08

the plot, Yeah. To

10:10

to to think back on this, like, I've I've

10:12

And it came through. I I have enjoyed

10:15

the characters that we have

10:17

gotten to do some

10:19

hang time on while that

10:21

aren't the the three main

10:24

kids from Pennsylvania. I

10:26

think that and and

10:28

Aileen's story has

10:30

been particularly poignant,

10:33

and I like you know, treat No.

10:37

No. No. Take our

10:39

our Dell take

10:41

our necromancer you know, all

10:43

these people that it's just wonderful

10:45

to see misery

10:47

before them now because we had all

10:49

this time setting that up. Feast.

10:51

I'll

10:51

send my man to help you.

10:53

Which I always find interesting because

10:55

a lot of times in the

10:58

later years When I try

11:00

to introduce new folks to the show and

11:02

they have to experience, like,

11:04

the beginning with the characters

11:06

before they've gotten to where they're going, one

11:08

thing, they get to experience.

11:10

Continue. They they get to experience.

11:13

But but I do

11:15

I do sometimes hear some comments

11:17

that simple. The burn is

11:19

quite slow if you don't know that the payoff is

11:21

coming. And for us, we've

11:23

experienced a payoff. We know it's coming, but

11:25

it's it's interesting to hear back on. Was

11:27

simply Adele Redmoore's whim.

11:30

What did the assassin say to

11:32

you? She

11:32

said to get out of a y or

11:35

she would kill me my lord.

11:37

And how did you respond? I

11:39

said I couldn't allow her to leave

11:41

my lord. Yes. I'm sure

11:43

you summon such bravery in the

11:45

face of a mortal threat. Carmen

11:47

is unknown for that. She didn't

11:49

leave Strider. Why did she?

11:52

If

11:54

you address one

11:56

more sentence to me that doesn't

11:58

end in my lord,

11:59

I'll have your tongue

12:02

out do you understand?

12:06

Yes.

12:07

My lord,

12:09

now. What's this nonsense

12:11

about her not leaving straightaway?

12:14

Well, my lord, they

12:15

announced his majesty's

12:17

death just before ten bells.

12:20

And I was in the pantry just after

12:22

seven bells, my lord. I

12:23

brought enough food to the barracks to know

12:25

the guard would have changed my

12:28

lord. If

12:28

the assassin had slain his majesty

12:31

before I met her, they would have

12:33

found his body sooner, my

12:35

lord.

12:36

Gwen actually smiled at this.

12:38

Does she like that? Like something? Yeah.

12:40

Gwen, it's fun early on when,

12:42

like, So you are Gwen is a

12:44

character, I think, is really

12:46

good at, like, hiking. Finding

12:50

moments like, little moments of

12:52

empowerment to grab despite

12:54

extremely disempowering circumstances.

12:58

I think that makes her a really interesting character,

13:00

and I think it makes her, like,

13:02

a really good Like,

13:05

almost a foil for Arlene in a

13:07

way that helps Arlene Gro. In

13:09

this opinion

13:10

to anyone else?

13:11

Can't recall. Speaking of character

13:14

choices like Dan, Like,

13:16

there is no way this like,

13:18

if you just heard this character in isolation, you

13:20

go, like, oh, yeah. He's the smiley bad

13:22

guy. Yeah. What's the false choice?

13:24

It

13:24

looks worse. For you if your regency is

13:27

built

13:27

online. Dan

13:28

gets so many smarmy bad

13:31

guys. Yeah. He's

13:33

he's a victim of his own and

13:36

even when he's assigned to play the good guy.

13:38

Mhmm. So He was covered in

13:40

feast. Let me make this

13:42

abundantly clear your peasant slot.

13:44

You guys just forgot about that line.

13:46

Yeah. It's not not how yeah. Well,

13:48

it was twenty fourteen. Times

13:51

are different. I

13:52

would hesitate to do to you. Yeah.

13:54

Slaught was an insult. You

13:58

remembered

13:59

anything.

14:01

When did her best to remain

14:03

composed? No. I do

14:05

remember, like, that the Arlene haircut has come

14:07

so far from being, like, so

14:09

weak and, like, well,

14:12

you shouldn't. It's only -- terrified.

14:14

-- that you do value. And I'm sure by

14:16

now you know But so much has happened

14:18

to her. Yeah. Yes. It's

14:21

like the tenses scenes have been

14:24

with. Arlene, not from -- Yeah. -- you've

14:26

noticed this. It's

14:28

near, wide, and diffraction.

14:30

So as far as your concern,

14:34

Gunther's death and Brennan's

14:36

and the assassins happened exactly

14:39

as was said in my lord regions

14:41

record. And if I

14:42

hear any rumors otherwise, regardless

14:45

of who started them,

14:48

It

14:49

will come out of my sister's

14:51

feathered flesh. Now throw her in the

14:53

dungeon for a day or three to make

14:55

sure she understands. The

14:59

fortress known as

15:01

Blackhold is a stark,

15:03

severe castle just to

15:05

the east of the Black Mountains.

15:07

No town or village surrounds

15:10

the king.

15:11

It's black. Can't remember what this I don't remember what

15:13

the scene is. The other one is just uncovered.

15:16

Planes. This

15:17

morning, same as centuries

15:20

prior, a single standard

15:22

flew from Blackhold's Tower,

15:24

a field of sable No

15:26

adornment. Within the

15:28

keep, officers of the realm's

15:30

civic guards studied a map of

15:32

Jordon. At the head

15:33

of the table, sat the senior

15:36

officer, a grizzled general

15:38

by the name of Dylan

15:40

Keur, he

15:41

manipulated tiny figurines

15:43

of armsmen weirily. I

15:46

have no doubt Kraft is coming here.

15:48

Right. This is I was this is

15:50

my best John f Kennedy because

15:55

what what No. I thought it

15:57

was found footage of JMP. To

15:59

you. Yeah. Thanks. Because

16:02

what this guy says about Kraft

16:04

is like, very

16:06

closely modeled on an

16:08

interview that Kennedy

16:10

gave about Fidel Castro in,

16:12

like, sixty two or something that

16:14

if you go back and read, it's like, it's

16:16

remarkable in

16:19

today's context that he

16:21

said that and still got to

16:23

be president. But so anyway, when

16:25

I encountered that quote, I it

16:27

stuck with me and that, you

16:29

know, incorporated it into this this bit,

16:31

which is why I just decided this guy

16:34

sounded like JFK.

16:36

Brennan

16:36

Affiliate. Feel

16:38

free to disagree with me creators and

16:41

Anja, but I feel like

16:43

we spent a lot

16:45

of the first Yeah.

16:47

Maybe two of of the

16:49

ones in future married court. Sort of

16:51

make it like, we've already talked about an

16:53

assassin's creed reference we're

16:56

talking about this reference, like,

16:58

we we try to weave references

17:01

into a lot of things. Like,

17:03

that's that's just scratching the surface, those

17:05

two examples. And now we're

17:07

just comfortable to let the

17:09

story drive itself

17:11

a lot more. Agree or disagree.

17:14

Self to the nearest -- No. -- not comfortable,

17:16

but but we are but we have so much

17:18

more story to get through, that we

17:20

just get through the story

17:22

more.

17:22

Before the race. I think the references we make are

17:25

more

17:25

self referential now that we've established

17:27

enough of like a world building.

17:31

And, like, whether maybe the original reference

17:33

was, like, something outside of

17:34

the world. Yeah. That was enough.

17:36

Of, like, an of ongoing,

17:38

like like, queen's vouching.

17:39

Not even, like, joke, but just, like, ongoing

17:41

sort of building on the references. Yeah.

17:44

So now how, like, you know, the narrator can

17:46

make fun of himself from earlier or

17:49

we bring back to imagine if

17:51

you can what life is like for a rabbit

17:53

sitting there. Yeah.

17:55

Yeah. Yeah. I think that's

17:57

I think that's a good way to say it. Like, we

17:59

just we have so many more

18:02

toys in our sandbox now.

18:04

And, like, when we've started, we

18:06

have the deal toys from other

18:08

people's sandboxes, but now

18:10

we've we've got a very full sandbox.

18:12

Yeah. Also like like

18:15

I mean, Game of Thrones

18:15

was out, but it was, like, new when

18:17

we started. You know, we

18:20

didn't make the season, like, in three.

18:22

Yeah. Oh. I feel like there's, like, just

18:24

a a, like, huge, like, a rich more

18:26

rich, like, fantasy into

18:28

the mainstream. Now it is.

18:31

Mhmm. And maybe we're trying to be I I think we're

18:33

trying to sort of position our else is

18:35

like, we're like this thing. We're kinda like this

18:37

thing. We're kinda like this thing. Like,

18:39

you should like us because we're similar

18:41

to property you might have heard of.

18:43

Right. Right. A good chance. And now Game of

18:45

Thrones and, like, House of Dragon, like, then you

18:47

know, Lord

18:47

of the Rings. Secret

18:49

or just, like,

18:50

know, missing. Everywhere and promoting It's

18:52

like people get it. You don't have to, like, sell

18:55

people on fantasy. And

18:57

then reach Yeah. But It's

18:59

a prequel Anja. One

19:01

time is in

19:04

We're not sure. Thanks

19:06

for inviting me here guys. Do

19:08

you wanna spoil the end for everyone? It's about

19:10

the morning. Brennan Brown. I think

19:12

maybe we've done that the self

19:14

front or the the referencing outside

19:17

things. As one off fits

19:19

less as we don't need that as a crutch. But

19:21

I think we do still have some pretty

19:23

large, you know, big

19:25

picture things will still friends.

19:27

Like, I mean, the the main

19:30

body west of the mountains is an

19:32

elf named Tim

19:34

Lowyev who sounds a

19:36

lot like Thomas Jeff person. Like,

19:39

we're still doing things like that. Yeah.

19:41

Oh, I didn't get that. Thank

19:43

you explain III got it

19:45

because it was explained to me. So

19:47

let's see. The table was filled

19:49

with students discussing This

19:52

is this is the way Christian's mind works.

19:55

More than mine, let's say. My thoughts

19:57

are about how House Quirnetal is the greatest

19:59

and the most right. Am I wrong Christian?

20:01

You're not wrong. I love to get I love

20:03

to get roasted on my own podcast.

20:08

Well, we

20:10

have the group with with us

20:12

for you right now. I'm gonna

20:14

pitch this right now. We just

20:17

have one episode that drops into the main feed of

20:19

just everyone roasting

20:21

Christian. Okay. You

20:23

respect myself. That's so little.

20:25

That minor insults require mortal

20:28

combat. I'll start. No adult

20:30

man should love Bruce Springsteen that as

20:32

much. And of

20:34

it. No. No. No. This was one of

20:36

the first things that we did where I

20:38

was like Fight and burn I

20:41

know these characters well enough

20:43

that we can, like, play, like, we

20:45

can do like, there's this

20:47

whole minute Bit going

20:49

on where Riggin and Brennan

20:51

both imagine what they think the

20:53

other characters would have said. And

20:55

I think that still works really well and

20:57

was really fun. Off right. Oh,

20:58

yeah. I remember this. How how

21:01

long Christian in fact does it feel like

21:03

you need to have a character

21:06

before You can start to

21:08

play around with them. Like, how long do you

21:10

work on his character

21:12

establishment? And now, let's

21:14

set them in the world. Right. Book

21:17

learning, book learning, book learning. I

21:19

think I was always more concerned

21:21

about than Christian was. Christian had a lot

21:23

of faith in our audience that they'd pick up on it

21:25

really quickly. And there were a lot of things where I was

21:27

kind of holding the reins back

21:29

a bit. But Christian

21:29

was all for jumping into that pretty

21:31

quickly. Honey, sugar, pie.

21:33

I think for me, it's like it

21:35

kinda depends, like, privy.

21:38

I need

21:38

to watch some library dust out of my

21:40

criminally neglected fuckle. Oh my god.

21:42

I love that one. I love that one. I'm

21:45

trying to make the

21:47

same as kick down the door. I think it

21:49

kinda depends on, like, what happens

21:51

to the character. Like, characters

21:53

kind of I think reveal

21:55

themselves a different paces the

21:58

more things happen.

22:00

But, you know, we've talked a lot

22:02

about Allied. Chapter

22:04

four, which we did the last commentary on,

22:06

was the one where we, like, really felt

22:08

like we had our legs under nieces.

22:11

So it makes sense that the

22:13

following one is one that, like,

22:15

we could start to to play.

22:17

If there was a window. I did

22:19

really enjoy this this premise or bit

22:22

where we had spotted Regan

22:24

and Brennan being detectives and

22:26

kind of assembling the conversations that

22:29

they imagined. The party was happening. I

22:31

really enjoyed this. She was

22:32

probably Justin to use the preview with

22:35

Nia. She would have tried to warn everyone.

22:37

Regan ran out into yeah. So

22:39

to answer your question, I suppose the

22:41

last chapter chapter four was

22:43

-- Which means coming out here. --

22:45

approximately episode followed. Six

22:47

plus four plus four. So

22:49

episode fifteen was the start of

22:51

chapter four where we started feeling comfortable.

22:53

So fifteen twenty episodes

22:55

in is. You know, a good solid

22:57

couple hours of screen

22:59

time in. Brannen

23:02

and also you know, a

23:04

couple years of writing time. Uh-huh. Has Reagan

23:06

helped to the old And chemistry. Yeah.

23:09

Chemistry team is working

23:10

together and working in this medium

23:13

more understanding a

23:14

little bit better. How to do it? Dool.

23:16

Hidden beneath the ashes. Nelson.

23:19

Regan and Puggied. From the

23:21

rubble and hopped down. Brennan

23:23

rubbed his bandaged arm for a

23:25

moment and then followed. Earlier

23:27

that day, before the fire,

23:29

The well groomed leming was indeed

23:32

populated by students of

23:34

Armstrongard College. I regret to say

23:36

that there was no congressing occurring

23:38

on the premises, however, Mia having

23:41

frequented the pub herself as a student

23:43

had in fact led our party to

23:45

the Lemming stores. If we are not

23:47

going to the rendezvous point You mean

23:49

the city gates, also known as city

23:52

guard

23:52

barracks. I was going to

23:54

say there's the practical matter of

23:56

how we'll find the general. I just need

23:58

a chance to think.

23:59

With exaggerated nausea

24:02

loss, Yellooine removed a golden arrowhead from his

24:04

pouch and dropped it in the dust outside

24:06

the door as the group entered the

24:09

liming. Let's hope he's learned

24:11

something about tracking from his time with

24:13

me. Inside, the

24:15

taverns Cleontel were not in

24:17

fact discussing stewently

24:20

matters. Though they would have been on most

24:22

other days,

24:23

today however I don't know. I just heard someone

24:25

kill the guardsmen. I bet there's someone here

24:27

who can give us sidequests. I think

24:29

we got enough to deal with already being

24:32

seen.

24:32

Experian. And

24:34

items, not knowing what Speaking

24:36

of these one off references, the

24:38

generic video games, they waited

24:40

in silence until a bar came

24:42

to serve

24:43

them. Haven't seen you in a while -- Why can't you?

24:45

-- for the love of Gallaudent. Taking a back

24:47

of the bomb made hurried off, the

24:49

silence stretched intermittently. Until

24:52

abruptly Jen leapt from

24:54

her seat.

24:55

So sudden was her movement that her

24:58

chair was thrown back, startling

25:00

the group as it clatted to

25:02

the floor. Got a pee. You want me to go

25:03

with you? Nope. I'm good. Just as

25:06

swiftly, Jen stalked away

25:08

towards the privy. Billy

25:10

and

25:10

Nelson stayed at each other for a moment.

25:12

If either hoped to find an

25:14

ounce of understanding of the girl's mind

25:16

in the other's face, they were both

25:19

sorely disappointed. Instead, they

25:21

turned to near in unison. She

25:23

withstood their

25:23

silent pleading for only a moment

25:26

before she rose from her own

25:28

seat. Plastic As

25:30

she headed towards the privy, near

25:32

past the barmeade returning with the brandy

25:34

in some glasses. Without breaking

25:36

stride, near grab the bottle of liquor and

25:38

took a large swig directly from the bottle. Jen

25:42

stood at a water basin in the washroom.

25:45

For a few moments, She

25:47

simply stood and stared at her own hands. They

25:50

were still coated with sergeant McShane's

25:53

blood. She considered her

25:55

stained hands front and back

25:57

before I was just thinking about how

25:59

much I enjoyed the year's

25:59

character. Yeah. Slowly

26:03

and methodically. As if in a trap. And I

26:05

think there was a little bit of a needle to thread

26:07

in this episode of, like, it's kind of

26:09

a fun episode, but,

26:11

like, We had two really

26:14

impactful deaths at the end of the

26:16

last chapter that we

26:18

also needed to, like, leave room

26:20

to deal with. I

26:21

need some time to myself.

26:24

Yeah. And

26:25

I like the way this chapter

26:27

sort of leaves through Like

26:30

the We know in

26:32

retrospect that the whole

26:34

mystery that they're tracking on is

26:36

sort of a

26:39

consequence of Jen dealing

26:41

with that death. Mhmm.

26:43

But as we're

26:45

listening, the audience doesn't necessarily know that until the end.

26:48

Mhmm. I like how we craft that

26:50

face. To be very self

26:52

congratulatory again, What is the point of

26:54

these, if not, to be self

26:56

congratulation in the room? To

26:58

a

26:58

mortal? It may have seemed like a

27:01

or buzz but

27:03

seen, felt, and

27:05

smelter. Oh, yeah. This is the first chapter

27:07

where we, like, really get explicit

27:10

that Jen has powers, I think. I

27:12

think we, like, foreshadowed it

27:14

in room two. Go ahead.

27:16

But this is the first time we really are, like,

27:18

yep. She got powers. Flue between

27:20

gelled and stretched fingers. And

27:21

then another and another in quick

27:24

succession. Startled the

27:26

cheerleader stumbled backwards knocking

27:28

the washbasin onto the floor

27:30

as she fell the humming and the sparks suddenly

27:33

stopped, although not

27:34

before one fell to the sawdust

27:37

floor of the privy.

27:39

The sawdust ignited by the spark.

27:41

What Here's a question. What

27:43

what studio were we in when we did this?

27:45

This one didn't I

27:46

think this would

27:49

have been the Brooklyn

27:52

one. Fire. Fire. the

27:54

privy. How is there a fire in the privy?

27:56

Who cares out? Students were terrorists.

27:58

Oh, they were in They were in

28:00

bushwork. They were in bushwork. Nia

28:04

grabbed Jen, by the way. That was, like, one

28:06

episode, maybe two. Direct. No. We

28:08

I think we were there for, like, in the back

28:10

the pop. I know we were there for a while. We were there

28:12

for, like, the latter

28:15

half of of

28:17

book one, I believe.

28:20

Not yet. Yeah. When we realized that your living

28:22

rooms was not a long term solution. Yeah.

28:24

We did We were in we did a couple

28:27

in, like, Chelsea, though. Has it tainted? Yes. So

28:29

first, we did my living room. That didn't

28:31

work. Then we Oh,

28:33

honey ambulances. Yeah. Then we

28:36

kind of like did it

28:38

at my office without authorization.

28:40

And then that didn't work when

28:43

people unexpectedly I wasn't gonna

28:45

tell and then it

28:47

didn't work when people unexpectedly

28:49

were working a Saturday. That we

28:51

plan to record, and I had to tell everybody,

28:54

like, don't show up. Don't show

28:56

up. And then yeah. Then we

28:58

were in Chelsea for a couple

29:01

capped like, two or three chapters. Yeah. Try to

29:03

return. Oh, you know what? No. We

29:05

recorded Wait. Sound care.

29:07

We recorded the scene when

29:11

Arlene confronts her cousin.

29:13

We were definitely in Chelsea for that

29:15

nets. I think six.

29:18

So we were yeah. We were in Chelsea through in

29:20

chapter six, and then I

29:22

think seven through ten. We

29:24

were in Bushwick. And then

29:27

for book two, we were with

29:29

with Jared in

29:32

SoHo until the pandemic.

29:34

Claudia,

29:34

right in the guts bam.

29:36

Oh, yes.

29:38

Right. We introduce a lot of things

29:40

about Regan in

29:42

this chapter. I think this is this

29:44

is the first time that, like, we economically say

29:47

that she has sex with women. And it's

29:49

also the first time we introduced

29:51

her her gunpowder

29:53

fetish. Regan looked

29:57

around. Also, can we sit and take a

29:59

moment, Ani Gibyan, doing a

30:01

flawless foster Since twenty fourteen.

30:03

No idea what you're talking about.

30:05

Mom's that in

30:06

over there, but students who should say

30:09

they have It's really not a Boston

30:11

accent. It's really just a Reagan accent.

30:13

And

30:13

Yes.

30:14

It's kinda become its own.

30:16

It's become its own thing. Better than

30:18

gold. For

30:18

sure. Sell it. My purse It's a bit light since

30:20

the castle. Don't

30:21

worry. My credit's pretty good with him. Do me a

30:24

favor and

30:24

don't tell me how you earned it.

30:26

The

30:26

trick with fans to tell him just enough, but he thinks

30:29

he got something valuable. You throw a

30:31

couple little clever lies in there. He can be pretty

30:33

useful for throwing someone off

30:35

your trail. I

30:35

remember you used use monetary policy

30:38

as a as a

30:40

as a touchstone still No. No.

30:42

No. No. No way in.

30:45

No. That was not the

30:47

full intro. I thought it was not

30:49

the full intro. I was So that

30:51

was Opening the door if anyone else would

30:53

like to walk that she could no

30:55

longer ignore the old man. Sonya ladies

30:57

fast. Wait. I don't remember

30:59

what it is. It

31:01

was I believe it

31:03

was. Monetary policy

31:06

Answervails makes my nipples

31:08

hard. Wicked, wicked, hard. Oh,

31:10

yeah. I got this. Yeah. Think

31:13

it was just a monetary policy, makes my nipples

31:15

wicket odd. I think it was like, oh, this

31:18

is. But now there's

31:18

now it's just, like, at the point. It's

31:21

just like a mouth

31:21

shape. Like, you know, I don't know. There's

31:23

just like You're so

31:27

good. I just Walking you record, like,

31:29

your jaw just gets really

31:31

tense whenever you're ringing.

31:33

Yeah. Yeah. It's just like the

31:35

face crunch, like, comes like a little forward, and then

31:37

it's, like, everything is, like, kind of, like, small.

31:39

And that's, like, that's it's yeah.

31:41

It's more of

31:42

a muscle memory at this point.

31:44

I'm

31:44

supposed to be out from a fine deal. It's amazing

31:45

to me how you can just fall into that in,

31:47

like, a conversation like this.

31:51

Well, actually, I was thinking as

31:53

listening when we listened to the

31:55

Arlene scene earlier, I was like, I think

31:57

that her voice has actually evolved quite

31:59

a bit. And become, like, more lyrical.

32:02

Mhmm. Nobody knows.

32:04

Mhmm. It's very

32:06

it's very, like, head voice now.

32:09

Definitely. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's

32:11

kinda gotten higher. It's yeah. It's it's in a

32:13

little higher range. And I think, actually,

32:15

Reagan, I've pitched a little lower also

32:17

over the years. Just this this

32:19

early one still still seems like

32:21

it's a little a

32:24

little higher than she's been talking sort of

32:26

less growly too. Tell

32:28

me why. But also she's been injured --

32:30

Yeah. -- like the past. I ain't given a year.

32:32

And I I think that I think that

32:35

happens, like, Jackie Felon

32:38

famously our our buddy, Zach

32:40

Valenti, on Wolf three fifty

32:42

nine, when they started

32:44

like Eiffel and Hilburk's

32:47

voices were very

32:49

very similar. And as the show went

32:51

on, kind of Eiffel got a little

32:53

more nasally and and Gilbert got a

32:55

little more bossy. Stick

32:56

around with you the morning after.

32:58

Do you remember Angie?

32:59

Remember? I knew it before

33:02

you did. Quite the catch though, Jackie,

33:04

nicely done.

33:04

Well, I thank you. But

33:06

I'm afraid it's gonna have to be

33:08

coin or tell me something I don't

33:10

know. As it happened,

33:11

wonder to what extent our

33:15

very spread apart

33:17

recording schedule played

33:19

into this, like, As we talking about, this

33:21

was twenty fourteen. We've had a lot of

33:24

time to digest these characters. What have

33:26

they And I wonder decide to

33:28

read. What what you all think if we would

33:30

have reached the same level

33:32

of character development if we were cranking

33:34

these out, you know, one a month or

33:36

whatever. No. better facilitate

33:38

the flow of information, a

33:40

smile,

33:40

widened, impasse. Well,

33:44

If we were cranking them out once a month, I don't know how

33:46

much. Should I Leeway that gives the

33:48

the writers, and I think that only

33:51

the is You know, the only

33:53

totally left on Way you can was

33:56

crafted

33:56

a decent characters and actors because

33:58

the writers have already done ninety percent

33:59

of the work fees. And had bedding

34:02

off of them at one point or another. Would be my aunt's stuff.

34:05

Sometimes it's it's married.

34:08

But

34:08

Sharon's sometimes it

34:09

could be a bit challenging even to remember. Wow.

34:11

You know, Anya credited to

34:12

her just now. I said, like, oh,

34:16

but Aileen has been

34:18

AAA

34:21

while now. And I have to

34:23

sort of remember if I'm playing

34:25

different characters as well. Who who has

34:27

had what happened to them recently. Right.

34:29

And sometimes I'll I'll try to go back

34:31

and listen to some

34:34

past episodes for doing

34:36

these. So III don't think I've

34:38

had to go back as far as as

34:40

this stuff would be in a while, but That's

34:42

something I find I have to to do quite frequently. I

34:44

was doing it for like This is my story.

34:46

Oh, goodness. Who do I have to So

34:48

suffice it to say, it

34:50

was a much calmer region.

34:54

At least by her standards, who rose from

34:56

a small

34:57

upstairs bed and quickly jumped back

34:59

into her clothes. Mister and missus

35:01

Fallon, on the

35:04

other hand, Maguire maybe exhausted. Oh, it was a hundred

35:06

percent Maguire. Yes. It was a hundred percent

35:08

Maguire and spoiler alert with

35:10

some things that I don't think are quite being

35:12

released yet.

35:14

But AAA conversation that he has had

35:16

has not taken a few episodes. And, yes,

35:18

that was exactly it. It was going back

35:20

and trying to remember exactly

35:22

what the setup was to that, how long it had taken him to get there,

35:25

and some of the points he was trying

35:27

to make in the conversation

35:30

and why. With a wink

35:31

and a small bow, reacquirers.

35:34

Was that vague enough not to spoil him?

35:36

Yeah. I think that was perfect. Good

35:38

for me. Coming from the room

35:40

she just left. Yeah. This is so And then she had found a I'd specifically

35:42

remember some like fan

35:45

reaction to this scene

35:47

of just, like, explicitly saying that

35:50

Reagan has sex with women.

35:53

And now, like, audio drama.

35:56

Like, every character is gay in audio

35:58

drama. But I think it was, like,

36:00

it it it stuck

36:02

out at the time of just,

36:04

like, just saying it, you

36:06

know? Pretty nice

36:07

ones too, as far

36:09

as they go. You

36:10

wanna smell my fingers? Brenham chose

36:11

not to risk playing it pretty bluntly

36:13

and truthfully as this episode is showing us

36:15

right now as as Regan is want

36:17

to

36:17

do. Yeah.

36:20

There's no ramp up. There's

36:22

no euphemism in Reagan's

36:24

world. How's your I'm

36:25

feeling? Hey. Like, we've sure.

36:28

Into the children are safe, yogurts. We've been around long enough that --

36:30

Found out what happened. -- I'd like to think we were --

36:32

She's still cutting edge on

36:34

some things. stabbed

36:36

him. Demet.

36:37

Bitti, maybe Nelson, but I

36:39

doubt it. Demet. Word going around said

36:41

it was a girl. Match

36:43

Jen's description. No.

36:44

know That strange belief.

36:46

Doesn't mean she did it.

36:47

Just means everyone thinks she did. It would be

36:49

madness

36:49

for them to split up, but that means the

36:52

greater

36:52

part of city guard will be looking

36:54

for them all. Not

36:55

just god. Do you know anyone

36:57

who flies a green falcon on a white field?

36:59

As

36:59

ill as Brennan had already

37:01

looked he managed to turn a shade

37:03

more pale at the mention of this.

37:05

Oh, yeah. We were still

37:07

trying to play off

37:09

like some of game

37:10

of Thrones ish, like, intrigue

37:12

between houses and Jordan at this time --

37:14

Mhmm. -- before we quickly realized this was

37:17

not our strength and not a very interesting

37:19

story. We're just I mean, I think

37:21

I think it just it went in a

37:23

different And Path, do you

37:25

Like, oh, we found other stuff that was

37:27

more interesting. But Kevin is good because then it's like it

37:29

feels like our thing. Was in

37:32

need

37:32

of the remainder of our

37:34

party. They

37:35

had also just seduced that Jen for a while, I had some high hopes

37:37

for that as a storyline though, but I'm kinda glad it

37:39

did not pan out. Yeah.

37:43

And

37:43

that Angie felt I think I think it gives

37:45

up case some details or

37:46

at least, like, more sort of rich world

37:48

building about, like, the different geographic

37:51

areas of the world and, like, what the

37:53

houses value based on that and stuff.

37:55

Brennan had found because we didn't

37:57

do that with the accents got help

37:59

us. So the story needed

38:02

to do some of the work.

38:04

Brennan and Reagan followed the tracks

38:06

at a jog hoping they would lead to stuff. Yeah. We were a

38:08

bit cavalier with accents, weren't

38:10

we? New character? New

38:12

actor. Right? Yeah. I mean, it was on

38:14

for Mike because one of the

38:16

first things we talked about that we

38:18

wanted to do is,

38:20

like, why does

38:22

fantasy mean modern day English accents

38:24

only. So we may have

38:26

swung the pendulum a little too

38:28

far, but You

38:30

know, you gotta try stuff to see what

38:32

works. Expect for it. Also,

38:33

if you have what we have, like

38:36

We have, like, eight actors.

38:38

Yeah. Maybe ten. Yeah. So you kinda had to. Fuck your

38:40

stupid

38:41

face. I'm fine. It was probably good

38:43

for one decent dummy

38:46

punch so the fucker falls and happens to grab at a table as

38:48

he goes. A knife happened to be sitting

38:50

on the table. He knocks it over.

38:53

his throat and that town rumor mail turns it into a

38:56

stabbing. Then Jen comes

38:57

in and sees. Billie?

39:00

Oh, no.

39:00

This is terrible, but

39:03

I'll stand by because I

39:04

only like myself when

39:07

boys like

39:07

Julie is so

39:09

good at, like, I

39:12

love when Julie gets

39:14

to, like, two scenery. Like,

39:16

at be a worse author

39:18

than she is, you know.

39:21

It's like it's like Julien Moore in in

39:23

boogey nights.

39:24

Standing over Blake Coops with

39:26

a

39:27

thumb or ass. Possible. Or

39:29

suppose the death happened exactly as you said, but then Jen

39:31

said to Billy. Give me the

39:33

knife and flee

39:34

by gallons

39:37

grace. I

39:39

really

39:40

enjoyed that teamwork.

39:42

Capturing young gens. Brandon's

39:45

pretty bad at.

39:46

Yeah. But anything He's

39:48

not a good writer. Remind me. Did you

39:50

wanna

39:51

know something about film? As I

39:53

was saying, flee, Billy. I'll take the blame. They'll be more

39:55

lenient with a girl. God, I

39:57

hope she's not

39:59

that stupid.

40:00

They ran along horse in mud still while longer, but

40:03

unsurprisingly gained little ground. Stop.

40:05

We gotta stop. We must not lag

40:07

you, please. Brenna,

40:10

I'm

40:10

knocking out one horses. I'm gonna try and figure out where they're

40:12

going. Cut it before they do. It's the only

40:14

way to get out in front of

40:16

this, a free zone guy.

40:18

You do not understand how tough this man is. He'll be relentless. Yeah. But

40:20

the kids will need the rest

40:22

at some point. I just hope the elf and

40:25

the preacher are

40:26

Brilliant. Needless to

40:29

say, that was not the descriptor

40:31

Brennan was expecting. He stopped

40:33

his run suddenly. What is it? You

40:35

see that

40:35

rocky hill over there? About

40:37

three miles that way. Okay. There's

40:39

a monastery up top. The way up is

40:41

a bitch. Damn near

40:44

impossible places. As

40:44

an acolyte. We have been lodging there. This was

40:46

not a surprise. I'm just enjoying the scene

40:48

now. No. I'm just enjoying the scene

40:51

now. Go ahead. He's gonna say, I think

40:53

part of the reason you're enjoying the scene is because this was our first -- Right.

40:55

-- there maybe is our second -- Right. -- sound

40:58

designer who we have for almost

41:00

all of book

41:02

one, Sandra Ramirez, and

41:04

she was so good. And, I mean,

41:06

all of our designers are great. But

41:09

Sandra was I don't think we ever would have

41:12

gotten kinda off the ground

41:14

without Sandra. And then she had

41:16

to she had to leave us

41:18

because her career in

41:21

Soundex editing for

41:24

telenovelas took off.

41:26

And, like, If you find her on IMDB she asks,

41:28

like, eight thousand credits

41:30

because telling the fellas

41:32

make, like, three episodes

41:34

a day. Release his

41:36

cop piece. Jim,

41:38

we really had incredible

41:40

luck finding amazing people who

41:42

want to be a part of the show. Yeah.

41:44

Yes. Very much present company included -- Yeah. -- first

41:47

attention. So he accepted this You

41:49

do realize I'm here. But

41:51

the situation became Oh, that's true. I take it

41:54

back. It's not even managed to push

41:56

Genoway long enough to

41:58

speak. Really What

41:58

is your deal? I don't know everything that's

41:59

happened. Yeah. Ian, your enthusiasm is

42:01

really lacking. There's somewhat a

42:04

bag

42:04

of Jen's direct

42:08

language. If I could give you a note and

42:10

stood up. I don't like you like this, Jen. I

42:12

am also just

42:13

enjoying listening. I haven't listened to this

42:15

episode in a while and it's Yeah. You're

42:18

freaking me out. We've definitely found our

42:20

legs by this point, I think.

42:22

Confusion. If not by the last chapter, of course,

42:24

but it's It's

42:26

sounding good. I think

42:26

it also sounds like a little like, it has

42:29

like a sort of a similar pacing to

42:31

a television episode. feels

42:34

like familiar and nice. Mhmm. Stop

42:36

the stares just in time to

42:39

observe Billy's exodus. With some

42:42

trepidation, she not said

42:44

the word twice with.

42:46

Jen,

42:46

are you

42:48

decent? Well, so Certainly, at this time,

42:50

Christian, you were -- I said.

42:52

-- writing it as though

42:54

we were writing a TV episode. Right? It

42:56

took a while to sort of push

42:58

the the podcast medium a little more? Yeah. You don't

43:00

think that's fair. Was an accident.

43:03

And

43:03

this isn't

43:04

an examination It's

43:07

an offer of guidance. Well, I don't want guidance. Down

43:09

in the common room,

43:10

Yellowina Nelson still sat

43:13

at the bar. In the behind

43:15

the scenes, I'm always the one kind of

43:18

pushing a little bit to to break away

43:20

from some of those traditional, you

43:22

know, TV episode pacings and so

43:24

forth, and Christian is always the one reminding me that that's like

43:26

a simple a good like,

43:28

it's the storytelling method that TV uses

43:30

because it

43:32

works. Outside.

43:34

And it is it is comfortable. You're you're

43:36

right on you. Heavily next to the elf.

43:38

Beer me, dude. Amen.

43:41

Right? Which one

43:46

of you studs wrote

43:48

down like? Been in the asses

43:50

r's. But then

43:52

we don't refer to them as out.

43:54

It's like I was saying to my

43:56

servant. Would you like to tell me what happened at the Lemming?

43:58

Not really. No.

44:00

Unhealed spiritual wounds are

44:02

even more obnoxious than physical

44:06

ones. Who says I'm wounded? I'm a woman of

44:08

letters. I'm not. What the fuck do you

44:10

know about wounds? I bet you still

44:12

believe in unbalanced tumors in that

44:14

ocelip bullshit

44:16

don't you? Yeah. Well, I'm sick and tired of pretending I don't

44:18

know things. I goddamn fucking Jolly well

44:22

do. Firstly,

44:23

the first li should confirm

44:24

to whom you're speaking because I doubt this

44:26

tantrum is meant for me. And secondly,

44:28

the theory of omeals.

44:30

Me, please. You

44:32

don't have protons, neutrons, electrons, anything. That's why

44:35

you can't do

44:35

lightning spells, not because

44:38

they're blasphemous. It's because you

44:40

need electrons to discharge radical

44:42

She suddenly

44:42

clamped her hand over her

44:45

mouth. Mia recoiled as

44:47

a physically struck I really like

44:50

that exchange. Is that how the

44:52

fuck started? Did you

44:53

try to do a lightning

44:55

spell? Okay.

44:56

It was like eighty percent an

44:58

accident. Back

44:58

in the tavern, empty space had widened around

45:01

yellow bean. So have you As

45:03

she gets so mad add

45:05

about not having science that she admits to burning

45:08

down half the town. Something I don't

45:10

like about the way you say, Memm yet.

45:12

The idea of jokes were

45:14

mercifully cut off when

45:16

near stormed down the

45:18

stairs, dragging a clearly unwilling gen by

45:20

the wrist. We need to leave

45:22

this place. What? Why?

45:24

I'm not going anywhere until I get

45:26

sausage down my throat. Let

45:29

me rephrase that. And

45:31

I won't abide at poisoning the children,

45:34

Countier, Pay our bill.

45:35

The group, I feel like

45:37

that's, you know, seven or eight years earlier, but that sounds like

45:39

a Brooklyn nine nine joke. Their departure is

45:42

none -- Yes. -- as

45:44

just an

45:46

hour later, a heavily armored knight rode up to the

45:48

inn. He was followed by six

45:50

squires carrying

45:52

his standard. A

45:54

green falcon on a white field.

45:56

Meanwhile, at

45:57

Castle Guernatal, Ardell and

46:00

Arlene

46:00

Redmay were done

46:02

ending with their guest of honor, Antonin of House

46:04

Moon Crest. Antonin, you

46:06

will recall,

46:07

was the chosen match in

46:10

marriage. Is this the first appearance

46:12

of Antonin? It must be, I think. And I

46:14

think it's the first time

46:15

we see him, but, I

46:17

mean, heard about yeah. We've we've heard about him,

46:19

but now we get to meet him. Mhmm. Or

46:22

we don't get to see

46:24

him. That's That's true. Throughout

46:26

dinner, she did more moving around a

46:28

food than actual eating.

46:32

Anthony

46:32

Mooncrest, I feel like early on,

46:34

we actually had this debate about whether

46:36

we can call our listeners viewers. I don't

46:38

notice his bride to be. I don't know why.

46:41

Pretty stupid. Not well, my

46:43

lady. Or perhaps

46:44

you are not accustomed to eating

46:46

with quick sticks. No. It's so we

46:48

are eating Lord Mooncrest's favorite dish. You do

46:50

him insult. Also at the table

46:53

were Antonin's father, Marcus, and

46:55

uncle Julius. The former was

46:57

the official head of House Moon

47:00

Crest and had fifty years,

47:02

but sadly, was afflicted

47:04

such that his mind was in many

47:06

ways still a child's. The

47:08

latter was of an age with his brother

47:10

and assisted and in in the

47:12

act Again, sort of credit to Paul, there's

47:14

something about the sort of again,

47:16

the character and vocal choice of, like,

47:18

that deeper thing that you immediately go up.

47:21

Is the good guy. Mhmm.

47:24

It's wonderful to sort of play that off

47:26

against Dan's

47:28

choices. Who's always

47:30

willing to be the the small

47:32

ways to live. Opportunity to

47:34

Harris' sister. And

47:36

I think also that fun

47:38

that he comes across a little bit is,

47:39

like, boring. Same my wife. And then he gets to, like, have

47:41

his moment -- Mhmm. -- of being

47:44

clever, later. She must have been He's

47:46

one of the most decent guys

47:48

in the whole show, Hampton Inn. What

47:50

do you say my lady? That would be Yeah.

47:52

I don't predict things going well for him in the future,

47:55

We'll see. I mean,

47:57

no. I don't know anything. I'm

47:59

I'm just such

48:02

a simple You know, sometimes you have to sacrifice. Siblings could not. They

48:04

get people for the plot and they calculate

48:06

outcomes, weigh risks and

48:08

rewards, and

48:10

seek unseen All also

48:12

manages to change engine

48:14

invoiced so much that I Often

48:17

have I I struggle

48:19

remembering who's the the act her playing

48:21

Antoinette because it doesn't. It's so far from all in

48:23

my mind to speak fast.

48:26

Especially

48:27

the pacing. Kiddish.

48:30

I don't let her near horses, lest the

48:32

poor stupid things get scared

48:34

and someone gets hurt. Then we shall

48:36

take my mayor a sunbeam. Damn

48:37

nag is too late case in point.

48:40

Shared. I'm sure, but I'm

48:42

afraid I must. This will be a splendid

48:44

way for my betro than me to become

48:46

better acquainted with

48:47

the chaperone, of course. Ardell

48:48

could not find a reasonable excuse to

48:51

deny Mooncrest despite his every

48:53

effort. If you

48:55

insist My lord. Arlene

48:57

smiled for the first time all evening,

49:00

perceiving that, although

49:02

the terms of the battle were

49:04

unclear, somehow

49:05

her brother had

49:07

lost anyway. The afternoon

49:09

very quickly latched

49:12

onto something evil going on with Ardel

49:14

there. But of course, I

49:16

cannot speak

49:16

highly enough of the character.

49:19

My cousin, Rickard. Aileen's smile

49:22

died suddenly. You remember your

49:24

cousin, Rickard. Don't you,

49:26

Sister? You too got along so well at

49:28

our Niel and I feast.

49:30

The mate What a jerk

49:32

can you? What a bizarre shit?

49:34

So what jerks for writing

49:36

Neil and I that

49:37

I remember was quite a sticking point

49:40

in the recording session. Yeah. I

49:42

also just had a flash back.

49:44

I was

49:46

like, Oh, no. Oh, no. That word is coming. Mountain.

49:48

They climbed the mountain. Didn't it

49:50

tell me how you know this way?

49:53

I'd rather quietly deceive myself into thinking

49:55

my queen is never robbed a

49:57

monastery. What have helped

49:59

you sleep? Try not to think too hard about priests gold

50:02

other people starve. This is a

50:03

monastery, not a temple. What a

50:06

value did they

50:08

keep here? Went to go. I happen to be

50:10

passing by. That's

50:11

a No. That was a Is

50:13

that Zach? Voice

50:16

mail? Has a

50:18

throwback to an earlier

50:21

Inside joke where it was

50:23

impossible to say mer

50:26

in Regan's

50:28

accent. Yes.

50:28

oh

50:33

Slap.

50:33

Yes. Listen, listeners. I don't know if you know this, but

50:36

there

50:36

are several things. There's several words over

50:38

the years that I have asked to have

50:42

been Due to the impossibility of me to say them with a straight

50:44

face.

50:44

Look out over the the

50:46

storm. So

50:47

obviously, the solution to that is to Or go

50:50

to say it. It's that the architects.

50:52

And have gone to the door

50:54

to welcome any more traveler. You remember

50:56

at one point saying, okay, fine. I'll change

50:58

the word, but I'm gonna put semicolon

51:01

in your sex scene, and then I did. Through the mouth of

51:03

this channel. You then tell me. Yes. I

51:05

don't

51:05

pronounce the semicolon, so that was

51:07

not an issue.

51:17

I'm

51:19

so immature that I was gonna put

51:21

a seven colors in your sex

51:24

scene. The best thing that's happened to

51:26

me today, but within sight

51:28

of you. Ardell

51:28

Redmoor watched the couple suspiciously trying

51:31

to decipher Antonin's motivation

51:33

for this ride. With him

51:35

rode his cousin regard Redmoor.

51:38

Also love that Arderl, like, can't even imagine that

51:40

he might even like Arlene. He's like, why

51:42

do you want to spend time with someone? I don't

51:44

want to be married too. Right.

51:48

Downtime. The man, she had just I mean, I think that's the thing

51:51

about, like, really, really shitty people

51:53

is that they project their Shitting

51:55

a song to other

51:58

people and can't imagine that anybody would be

51:59

nice to anybody else

52:02

back. Not in

52:04

the least. Understand. It's

52:06

not that I don't value

52:08

edited, but if you'll

52:10

excuse my frankness. I've

52:12

come to believe that some rules

52:14

are more important than Oh, is this the the the oh,

52:17

I know this scene. I know this

52:19

is Rick. This scene. Thank

52:22

you. I thought this was this episode. Yeah. There's a lot of

52:24

good stuff this chapter. When we are wed. Yes.

52:26

Because this is a wonderful, wonderful,

52:29

like, intro to character. Of,

52:31

like, ah, now we get to see what this

52:33

man is made of.

52:34

Further north. Mhmm. The

52:36

reads get terribly dry. If

52:38

lightning strikes or feral men may

52:40

camp, and are not careful, the resulting

52:43

fire could quickly grow out of

52:45

control and envelop the

52:47

oasis as well. That would ruin my family and doom our

52:49

people to Sarvation. Is it -- Sure. You want it? --

52:51

is it heat?

52:52

The movie with know

52:56

what we do to prevent. Capochille plays a

52:58

-- Yes. -- cop who's doing like

53:00

a drop. Do you know what I'm about to say? I

53:02

don't play a cop doing a drop

53:05

Oh, does he get the same monologue

53:08

basically? So

53:08

No. No. It's not the monologue.

53:10

It's the intro to the character.

53:12

Where at the beginning they So he's

53:14

doing a a drug busty. He's luring

53:17

people in to be pounced

53:19

on by the police. And

53:22

then, you know, they they load them, they're pressing, you know, free tickets

53:24

to such and such a thing. And

53:27

one of the suspects

53:30

they want to arrest comes up,

53:31

and he's brought his -- Mhmm.

53:32

-- kid's son with him, and

53:35

Albacino just like, flashes

53:37

the guy's badge. Don't

53:38

get out of here.

53:39

There's no price today. And had you been close The

53:41

guy turns around takes his son away and sort

53:43

of What's he supposed to

53:45

get from that? A

53:46

small The chinos, like, a hearts, a toast cup, but a code. He's not

53:49

gonna bust him in front of his

53:51

son. Like, that's rather kind

53:53

of what I feel like. Adele, of course, was It

53:56

happens here where we

53:58

learn something about Antonin.

53:59

His bad. The

54:01

dogs. All he's about to do I've I've lost

54:03

a little bit of track where we are in the episode, but

54:05

what he's about to do here. Start with the white

54:08

male. Yeah. Here we go.

54:10

IND legs. Like a statue before bolting

54:12

ahead. Antonin sat the

54:14

terrified horse as calmly as if

54:16

she were walking in

54:18

a park. Aileen planned to have betrothed for dear

54:20

life. By the time Ardellyn Ricardo

54:22

had caught up, Aileen was on the

54:24

ground next to a large

54:26

oak tree. Antonin

54:28

leaped off his horse to offer a hand. So the

54:30

audience goes, why did you do this? Him and tried

54:32

to run by lady. What in

54:34

Galadon's name

54:36

is happening? Antony Mooncrest knelt in contrition

54:38

before Adel. Lord's Redmar, you

54:40

have my most abject

54:42

apology. I thought I knew

54:44

my horse well, but you knew

54:46

the lady better. I thank your forgiveness by Lord. The

54:48

lady is injured in any way.

54:50

My house will repay yours

54:54

tenfold Go help the

54:56

poor thing cousin. Bricard dismounted and made the briefest

54:58

eye contact with Mooncrest. All

55:02

I will say Lord Mooncrest is that your Lord, Uncle, would

55:04

never have been so foolhardy. I

55:08

deserve much. Harsher

55:10

words. Cousin Ricard offered us. It's such

55:12

a good job of, like, you know,

55:14

pretending to be, you

55:16

know. Very

55:18

apologetic. And

55:20

this should go without saying, but

55:22

on behalf of my house,

55:24

I forfeit the right to

55:26

request blood proof of Redmoor's

55:30

maidenhood. The silence

55:32

was deafening. The entire

55:34

forest stilled at the

55:36

shock of these words.

55:38

Aileen scarce dared to

55:42

breathe. What?

55:42

Adele's face grew more and more. Like,

55:45

one piece of writing advice that I got

55:47

early on that I always try to take the

55:49

ball. To heart is, like, The

55:51

first thing you see a character do should tell

55:53

you something useful about

55:56

the the character. It's entirely

55:58

plausible that the may not. It is so much

55:59

more of a six think that way

56:02

of it had

56:02

scarbing my whole albuchino thing.

56:06

Yeah. I watched knives

56:08

out yesterday to prepare for the

56:10

sequel. And there's so

56:12

many, like, little details

56:14

that, like, add up

56:16

to the characters who are, like, pretending to be diff

56:18

you know, good people. And, yeah, like, all

56:21

of the time, like, there's so many little,

56:23

like, worlds, his cousin. Dialog

56:25

choices and, like, looks

56:27

and, like, just,

56:28

like, set ups that are do

56:31

you have. And the fact that nobody knows what country and in the country is corrupt. Yes.

56:33

Yes. Literally every country in South

56:35

America is named. That's

56:39

that's great. I just love

56:41

the -- Great. -- the, like, immigrants that get

56:43

the job done. I saw it

56:45

at the public.

56:46

Like, yeah. Yeah. That joke. Yeah. No. That's yeah. Yeah.

56:49

It was delivered. There's you know,

56:51

there's something you reminded

56:54

me one of my favorite in movie is is,

56:57

like, akin to what we

56:59

did with the the

57:01

Brennan Regan thing of,

57:04

like, kind of taking

57:06

somebody else's account of something,

57:08

like, for for for

57:11

granted where that suddenly There's like the

57:13

young girl who says that the

57:15

the younger boy the even

57:18

younger boy

57:20

an outright troll and accuses him of jerking

57:22

off in the bathroom. And later

57:24

when Daniel Craig is, like, giving

57:26

an account of what happened, he's, like,

57:29

Yes. In the downstairs bathroom where the

57:31

Nazi boy was massive. Yeah. And

57:34

what did he hear? This

57:38

is me a gay Ryan Johnson has never made a

57:41

movie I don't. Like, I'm very excited

57:43

for the next -- No, sir. -- young

57:45

to be an Armstrong Guard student.

57:48

She also had a gaping wound

57:50

in the center of her chest. There

57:52

are seven things you must know

57:54

to see. Oh, there's just I

57:57

forgot that just was the the dream.

57:59

The

57:59

face of god.

58:00

A dream girl even sprung towards

58:02

the end, reaping the many it was

58:05

this the first appearance of the single

58:07

bound. Jen may be ready to talk. We haven't

58:09

had one in a while. Yeah. We have not. With

58:11

the start. What's with that? Oh, it's

58:14

because she caught. Which

58:15

cannot contain

58:17

jail. Still

58:19

awake and on guard

58:21

noticed her confusion. Bail

58:23

tower. And you let her go in

58:25

her current state. Near, indeed, found Jen and

58:27

the bell tower surveying

58:30

the storm. Jen?

58:30

I owe you an apology. The

58:32

anger had

58:34

fled from Jen's eyes. Still,

58:37

she did not turn or

58:40

speak. Since undertaking

58:41

this quest, which

58:44

I was admittedly not

58:45

fully prepared for. I

58:47

have

58:49

well,

58:52

suffice it to say my faith has become somewhat more

58:55

complex. I unfairly expected

58:57

you and the boys to restore

58:59

some of the simplicity of

59:02

youth and then lashed out when you were

59:06

human. You know what I've been feeling since

59:08

this morning? I

59:10

can't imagine. imagine

59:11

Powerful. Jen

59:13

turned and looked

59:14

near directly in the eyes. I

59:17

swung my

59:17

arm and made him go away. And

59:19

now he can't hurt anyone

59:21

else. That felt so

59:22

good thinking I could make all the

59:24

bad men go away. And then no one

59:26

else would have to go Oh, here's

59:28

I didn't want to think about it because I knew once I

59:30

thought about moral ambiguity isn't the right word,

59:31

but Oh

59:34

my god.

59:34

good She

59:36

realizes that there's, you know, good and bad things.

59:41

Jen fell sobbing into

59:44

Neil's shoulder. As the

59:46

acolyte wrapped the girl in a comforting

59:48

embrace. The moment, however,

59:50

was interrupted by a splintering

59:53

crash from below. Freeze hell and

59:56

his squires had broken through the

59:58

monasteries barred door.

59:59

Yeah. There's that sort of TV timing

1:00:02

again, right? But the

1:00:03

other three used their fallen companions as a shield to get

1:00:05

close enough to tackle the elf. At that

1:00:07

range his bow was useless and without

1:00:09

enough time to draw

1:00:12

a knife he was quickly restrained by the three large

1:00:14

men. Billy Nelson to their credit and

1:00:16

the credit of Brennan's streaming

1:00:18

were awake and armed

1:00:20

in moments. They stood

1:00:22

bravely, shouldered. I think we had

1:00:24

gotten a little more confident about wedding

1:00:28

action scenes play out

1:00:30

without necessarily feeling like

1:00:32

we have to play by

1:00:34

play it, and then the the narrator can

1:00:36

just come in when, like, extremely necessary

1:00:38

or for, like, helpful color. No.

1:00:41

And I think it makes

1:00:43

the pacing better.

1:00:44

The man casually lifted Which

1:00:47

I will also say like, I

1:00:49

like. III like

1:00:51

giving lines away to

1:00:54

the ocean of what's actually

1:00:56

going on. I think it it is

1:00:59

more compelling. Yeah. We've been we've

1:01:01

been getting better at our different grunts.

1:01:04

That's awesome. Harmlessly. With his left hand, frees thank

1:01:06

God so uncertain. Guys,

1:01:08

there's a coming up in chapter

1:01:10

nine that the listeners have not heard

1:01:14

there are some truly incredible grunts

1:01:16

from our friends, Greg and Dan.

1:01:18

Very excited for everyone to hear

1:01:21

those. Oh, yes. As the large

1:01:24

I was listening in on that. He shook and her eyes

1:01:25

rolled wildly as she kicked and

1:01:28

struggled. Suddenly,

1:01:30

she stopped kicking.

1:01:32

Her eye

1:01:32

It has caused some

1:01:34

questions for me though. I've

1:01:37

been uploading our episodes

1:01:40

to YouTube, and converting the scripts into closed

1:01:42

captioning. Mhmm. Listen. And -- was more

1:01:44

-- now that we're we're leaving more

1:01:47

towards the action. It becomes a

1:01:50

little bit It has on

1:01:52

gents. More more unclear

1:01:54

how to properly close caption it,

1:01:56

especially with YouTube tries to algorithmically line it

1:01:59

up with words that adheres. Yes. So

1:02:01

when there are words that are

1:02:03

not said, it

1:02:06

confuses their their closed captioning algorithm. So when

1:02:08

we when we leave more of fight

1:02:10

scenes to sound cues,

1:02:12

it gets a little confusing in that regard.

1:02:16

Yeah. But terrified I don't think that should stop us from doing it. I think

1:02:18

it works quite well. Yeah. Audio We might

1:02:20

have to find a way to be a little more -- Just

1:02:22

arrived. -- accurate in our after

1:02:24

the fact. Transcription. That's

1:02:26

all zag sleeves. Yeah. And then

1:02:28

the Squires were dead. So free.

1:02:30

And the the full scripts are always available. The

1:02:32

the closed captioning is just what

1:02:35

YouTube like auto fills on the screen, but there's

1:02:38

always access to the full

1:02:40

transcript PDF form. Cover from

1:02:42

the shop of the battle. He rushed to Jen's

1:02:44

side. Jen is your

1:02:46

rank. That sucked. At the end of hand

1:02:48

was clearly

1:02:52

red ghosts of fingers grasping her neck

1:02:54

is where Brieselm was trying

1:02:56

to choke her, and then she electrocuted his

1:02:59

metal armor. And so

1:03:01

fried her own. The acolyte. Broached for

1:03:04

herself. Just like the court

1:03:05

jester. The ruins on

1:03:07

the floor. Instead, she gingerly placed her own hands

1:03:10

upon the girl's neck. I'm sorry, this

1:03:12

is a great movie and everyone should watch it. If you've not

1:03:14

seen nineteen fifty four as the court gesture, please look it

1:03:16

up and

1:03:18

watch It's amazing.

1:03:18

Be lying low. What'd you Angela Lanceberry is, like, twenty one and

1:03:20

so hot. It's amazing.

1:03:21

Pet before left. Does it stream

1:03:24

anywhere?

1:03:25

And you've kept sense of humor, but Yeah.

1:03:27

It's on some, like, free old movie.

1:03:29

When Regan just holds the Yeah.

1:03:31

Confirmation. He nodded too.

1:03:34

No shit. Well,

1:03:36

fuck me. I had you wrong, early.

1:03:38

I owe you a drink. And you just

1:03:40

magic the shit out of Falcon Boy there.

1:03:42

Yeah. What did you do, honey? That

1:03:44

was fucking awesome. She attempted an

1:03:46

enchantment way

1:03:47

beyond her ability and injured herself

1:03:49

in the process, which

1:03:52

is exactly what I

1:03:54

warned her about. Thank

1:03:55

you for that message.

1:03:57

Such a Bosculnia. Cheese.

1:03:59

Look on mixture. Of a bitch

1:04:00

face. But she had that Thank you for not listening to me.

1:04:03

I enjoyed that line. General. While

1:04:05

out in the taverns,

1:04:06

I heard some trouble and

1:04:08

whispers about the kingdom. Some are true. I'm afraid. His

1:04:10

majesty is slain and Ardell Redmo

1:04:12

has usurped the high throne. What?

1:04:14

Yo, Wayne. You

1:04:15

heard talk of this

1:04:17

and didn't tell us. You know

1:04:18

how common men gossip. There was

1:04:20

no sense wearing

1:04:21

you all until we knew for sure.

1:04:23

Well, now you know. Oh, and also

1:04:25

that means I'm Yeah. You're looming has come a long way in

1:04:27

terms of, like, not thinking he knows better than everybody,

1:04:30

which is definitely a very, like, seventeen

1:04:32

year old problem to

1:04:34

have, but suit. I'm

1:04:36

proud of the only.

1:04:38

Regan That

1:04:39

was that was fairly intentional though

1:04:41

at the very start of book two.

1:04:43

Right? Absolutely. The minimum required

1:04:44

by Like, when his world kind of

1:04:46

fell apart -- Yeah. -- and then we had

1:04:49

him learn contrition. Out here. I never

1:04:51

thought I'd see such a thing in my life, but I'm afraid it

1:04:54

does. If you would be so

1:04:55

gracious as to broker our passage

1:04:57

into the White Forest, you

1:04:59

know, of Though I would caution you all not

1:05:02

to mention the less lawful

1:05:04

moments of the last few days in

1:05:06

the press sons of elves. We

1:05:07

can't go anywhere till the storm dies down. Luckily, neither can anyone get

1:05:09

up here. Let's take the chance to

1:05:11

get somewhere else.

1:05:14

Yellin looked around as if noticing for

1:05:16

the first time that the room was full of

1:05:18

corpses. We should deal with these before

1:05:22

the

1:05:22

rest. Good

1:05:24

line. Gathered up the rest. I'll help

1:05:26

you, Brennan.

1:05:27

Brennan and Reagan

1:05:28

struggled to carry the large corpse through

1:05:31

gale winds and driving rain. As

1:05:33

they tossed

1:05:34

the body over a cliff, Brennan

1:05:36

spoke. Was

1:05:37

an attorney. You

1:05:40

was a Red Moore's champion and

1:05:42

I was your grandfather's. What? Great.

1:05:43

Sounds great. Yeah. Yeah.

1:05:47

It's a nice setting

1:05:50

the scene. Didn't think a peasant was

1:05:52

worth the money. Gunther

1:05:54

humiliated himself

1:05:55

to get me released.

1:05:57

Don't I think I've ever forgiven myself.

1:05:59

Next. Oh, yeah. I like this scene too. Yeah.

1:06:02

It's an awkward near black

1:06:04

hole. I let five

1:06:06

hundred light infantry in the four

1:06:08

times as we need to take.

1:06:09

Even I heard about that, didn't know

1:06:11

it was you though.

1:06:13

But first, proper rank. Everyone said

1:06:15

my boldness one day. I

1:06:17

don't even think it would surely

1:06:20

die. It was the

1:06:22

point. Gilt's

1:06:22

privilege of a living. Breeze

1:06:25

on's dead. Hey. But he

1:06:27

lived and died at night.

1:06:29

Let's get

1:06:29

inside. As

1:06:30

the two returned from

1:06:33

outside, Elauin was Spain just wants to be a

1:06:35

najeful. While Billy Nelson and Neil

1:06:38

I'm gonna need somebody to

1:06:39

walk me through this.

1:06:42

Through

1:06:42

what? At this moment, I

1:06:44

forgot about this. You're great. A

1:06:46

queen

1:06:46

can do that.

1:06:47

Right? If her a majesty

1:06:49

wins it.

1:06:50

Neil, General Brennan of Greyfield. Brennan could not

1:06:52

keep

1:06:52

the grin from widening across his face

1:06:54

as he knelt in front of his

1:06:57

queen. He waited

1:06:59

expectably and

1:07:01

waited and

1:07:03

waited. Okay. That's all I got. You know,

1:07:05

we enrolled his eyes, but How

1:07:07

do you That's

1:07:09

behind Reagan's right shoulder. Say

1:07:12

ah, then state your full

1:07:14

name and titles.

1:07:16

I I Is this the first queenly

1:07:19

thing that Regan does? Yeah.

1:07:21

I think so. And we're pretty

1:07:23

intentional about that. What

1:07:24

are real titles? Champion of the

1:07:26

civilized peoples and high queen of the

1:07:28

human realms of eordon. Shit. Look

1:07:31

at me. I I Eurana,

1:07:34

Margaret Reagan, champion of

1:07:36

the civilized peoples and high queen

1:07:38

of the human realms of Jordan.

1:07:41

Do cut but I also think that it's, like,

1:07:43

still kind of a game to her. In her

1:07:45

head -- Mhmm. -- running

1:07:47

of a grayfield. Like, just

1:07:49

the lightness of it versus, like, what

1:07:52

happens in our, you know, where we currently are

1:07:54

in the story. And, like, the the

1:07:56

heavy purpose that

1:07:58

she carries. Taking it more seriously. For each lady to say the rest of the words for

1:07:59

me. You may. Is that gonna make this

1:08:02

count any less for you, general? No.

1:08:04

You're gonna

1:08:04

days. But I do like how

1:08:06

she checks if that'll make account any less

1:08:08

for him if Jynia says the words. Who

1:08:10

could not suppress her words? That's a

1:08:13

that is a sweet gesture.

1:08:14

Each and all you do and obey her every

1:08:16

order. Like, she realizes that

1:08:18

it's, you know. And would you agree?

1:08:21

The forms do matter to some extent,

1:08:23

to some people. Or defining

1:08:24

disorder and

1:08:27

disgrace?

1:08:27

Fine. I

1:08:30

i not would not. I'll do

1:08:31

all the fun stuff myself. Now you'd dubbed him. Is that

1:08:33

the sword part? Yes. Regan drew

1:08:35

her blade and

1:08:38

touched the flat I love that she's like, oh, yeah. I know there's a sword involved

1:08:40

somewhere. My father was

1:08:43

called William.

1:08:45

I w So Brennan

1:08:47

Williamson. The steel

1:08:48

touched his right shoulder. Arise,

1:08:50

sir Brennan. This is like Man

1:08:52

of La except Brennan's not a

1:08:54

total fuck up. Man of La Mancha. It's

1:08:56

a musical. He did it. That's school

1:08:58

last year. I was gonna be in it. Chen,

1:09:00

rest your

1:09:04

voice. Billy and

1:09:04

carried

1:09:06

her

1:09:07

towards the

1:09:11

beds. Nelson followed Once near was sure

1:09:13

the children were out of the air shot, she turned to Brennan and Reagan.

1:09:16

Jen's throat

1:09:18

will swell. I can ice it, but can only

1:09:20

do so much without my staff. She

1:09:22

needs a real physician. And Brenna needs

1:09:25

his arm taken care of. I

1:09:27

told you it's fine. That's

1:09:28

my arm and I'm gonna need it. There

1:09:30

will be elven medicine that can help when we get to the hot forest. If we don't

1:09:33

get there soon,

1:09:34

it may be too late

1:09:37

again, but we are dead for sure if

1:09:39

we try

1:09:39

to down storm. must ready depart soon storm clears. Cartier,

1:09:42

take the first watch.

1:09:45

As they dispersed to prepare for

1:09:47

the evening, Regan held her night back for a moment. Brennan. You're

1:09:52

great. Maggie

1:09:52

and Katie,

1:09:55

good

1:09:56

sword names. That's

1:09:59

a good ending for

1:10:01

the chapter. Man, it

1:10:03

is. I like that.

1:10:06

I'm

1:10:06

liking how information. Our commentaries

1:10:08

just our giggling at things and going like,

1:10:10

0II think we did a

1:10:13

great job there. Oh, I like this

1:10:15

This is if you've ever watched Arnold Schwarzinger do

1:10:17

a commentary on one of his

1:10:19

movies, they're they're

1:10:21

quite similar. It's how That I think the best

1:10:23

one is -- Edit. -- total recall because,

1:10:25

like, Paul Verhoven. Oh, yeah. This is

1:10:28

my favorite.

1:10:30

Yeah. Exactly. Every month. It's like, Barbara

1:10:32

Rubin is really trying to talk

1:10:34

about, like, what a scene meant

1:10:36

and, like, how he got a

1:10:39

shot and all this, like, interesting

1:10:41

filmmaking stuff, and Arnold is there, like, literally just

1:10:43

describing the movie and say, this is

1:10:45

my favorite scene. Yes.

1:10:47

Alex Willey is and

1:10:50

associate once and future calls are recorded

1:10:53

by Brian Forbes -- Well, recordings do.

1:10:55

-- would anyone have

1:10:57

any concluding thoughts they wanna again. And

1:10:59

our discussion of this chapter on -- Yeah. -- other

1:11:01

than Thank God and Christian. Let me start

1:11:03

doing the Alfred credits.

1:11:07

This is nonsense. When did we start

1:11:09

having everybody say their own names? That's a

1:11:12

good question.

1:11:15

I don't remember.

1:11:16

I

1:11:18

like that I like that person. I think a person two.

1:11:21

Yeah. Maybe. Or year two, I

1:11:23

think it was. There's a a

1:11:25

wave of nostalgia coming back listing

1:11:27

to these, and it's fun chatting with everybody

1:11:29

of, like, how far we've come. There's there's a lot of great memories that have

1:11:31

been made around this. There's a silly

1:11:33

little project of Zac and

1:11:36

Christians that just

1:11:38

happy to ride it on the

1:11:40

curtailed self. There is no curtailed riding. Yeah. If anything,

1:11:42

it's the reverse. Exactly. We're all on a

1:11:44

magic carpet.

1:11:44

we're all on a magic carpet

1:11:47

Of MCS or

1:11:49

coattails. Everyone sitting on

1:11:51

each other's coattails. No.

1:11:54

That

1:11:54

was a fun chapter, and I think it it

1:11:56

did kind of it

1:11:58

it showed

1:11:59

a a comfort with the

1:12:02

world and the the characters that

1:12:04

was that was new to us

1:12:06

at the time. Yeah. And also, like, you know, some

1:12:07

some big sort of psychological

1:12:10

oh journeys journeys.

1:12:12

Yeah.

1:12:12

It was a good midway point for

1:12:14

the season because I think it kinda set up the characters' arcs for the

1:12:16

the rest of the

1:12:18

the book in a lot of

1:12:20

ways. And

1:12:21

setting up going to the

1:12:23

White Forest next. Yeah. Yeah.

1:12:25

Yeah. I'm very glad

1:12:26

we listened to and discussed this.

1:12:29

The next chapter that comes after this is the

1:12:31

singing sister, which is an all time top chapter. And we

1:12:33

almost chose to skip

1:12:35

this chapter for commentary

1:12:39

and jump straight to the singing sister, which is also a very

1:12:41

good chapter. But I'm I'm glad we discussed

1:12:43

this one. This is

1:12:45

this is a a good reflection and

1:12:47

reminiscing. Yeah. Now there's too

1:12:49

much good stuff that happens in

1:12:51

this one. Yeah.

1:12:52

We'll do the singing sisters another

1:12:55

thing. Thank you

1:12:55

guys so much for for joining us.

1:12:57

Is there anything we

1:12:59

want to plug

1:13:02

before we leave, I

1:13:04

have one. And that

1:13:07

is that

1:13:09

the incomparable

1:13:12

Harkins His production company has an audio

1:13:14

drama out. It is called the iron

1:13:16

anthology. Right? Is

1:13:19

that it? Yes. Christian, you are

1:13:21

you are too kind. Yes. So we have come out

1:13:23

with three audio

1:13:28

dramas each forty five

1:13:30

minutes long called ore, blood, and loch.

1:13:32

And together, they're

1:13:35

called iron pathology, which If

1:13:38

you look up will

1:13:44

find, Thank

1:13:45

you very very much for saying so,

1:13:48

Christian. Yeah. I've listened to I've listened to all three. They're extremely good.

1:13:50

They're it's like they're, you know, they're written by, like, like,

1:13:52

real playwrights,

1:13:55

not, you know, two two dipshits like this show.

1:13:58

And they're they're really well

1:13:59

written, really well performed, and

1:14:02

you guys should check them out.

1:14:04

And

1:14:04

I perform in one of them. So

1:14:06

have fun seeing if you

1:14:07

can spot spot

1:14:10

in one of them.

1:14:12

I

1:14:12

have not listened yet, and I'm

1:14:15

very excited to listen. I'm I'm looking forward to it. Point reset.

1:14:17

I

1:14:17

didn't

1:14:19

know it exists. Stitch.

1:14:21

So That's perfect. Hear

1:14:24

target audience.

1:14:28

Okay.

1:14:29

I'll queue that up for my next

1:14:31

my Max road trip. Anya, do you have anything going on that you wanna shout out? Not

1:14:32

have any things going on that you wanna shout

1:14:34

out

1:14:34

really, if you around Ithaca,

1:14:36

New York on Wednesdays, come

1:14:38

on over to the Argos Inn

1:14:41

and listen to some jazz, and

1:14:43

you might hear me sing.

1:14:45

Nice.

1:14:45

That's awesome.

1:14:46

I didn't know you were doing that. It's

1:14:49

a hyper hyper local endorsement. Sure. It's it's it's

1:14:51

actually really really fun. Yeah.

1:14:55

Nice.

1:14:55

I also want to shout out our fabulous

1:14:57

artist,

1:14:58

John Flanagan, who's

1:15:01

been creating our end

1:15:03

of chapter artwork that Patrons

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have had access to. He

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has

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a link tree to all

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of his other work. So if you're if you're looking for

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some cool art, it's link t

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r dot e e slash

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m albatross MALBATR0SS

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And he has a little bit of

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once in future

1:15:24

nerd work up there, but also

1:15:26

a lot of his own artwork. And

1:15:29

John. We've I've

1:15:30

known John for a long time, and he's an incredible artist. So everyone go check out as well. I'm gonna put a link in the

1:15:33

in the show

1:15:36

notes. Absolutely.

1:15:36

absolutely And

1:15:38

on that note,

1:15:40

I believe the once in future nerd

1:15:42

is taking a winter break hiatus

1:15:44

now, but we should be

1:15:46

back in twenty twenty three for the

1:15:48

next chapter. Thank you. Yeah. We'll take

1:15:50

in December. Oh, thank you. Yeah. We'll

1:15:53

be back in at the last

1:15:55

Sunday of January for the premiere

1:15:57

of book two, chapter nine,

1:15:59

which I think it

1:16:02

is possibly my favorite

1:16:04

chapter. To date. I really

1:16:06

like this one. I'm excited for everyone to hear it. Yes. Very looking forward to hearing you all there. In the meantime, you

1:16:08

can always reach out

1:16:10

to us by the usual channels

1:16:15

provided Twitter is still around when you

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hear this. Yes. That is that

1:16:19

is a fair point. As

1:16:22

of now, you can still reach us

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on Twitter. You can also I

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you all in twenty twenty

1:16:40

three. Thanks everyone. Happy set of

1:16:42

major holidays, everybody. Yes. Indeed. Yes.

1:16:45

Bundle up if you

1:16:47

are in a cold place. Thanks everybody. Thanks

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bye. Bye.

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Thank you.

1:17:01

Wait, you don't

1:17:04

you

1:17:05

guys don't constantly

1:17:08

get

1:17:08

served Mike's

1:17:10

hard limited commercials on YouTube? No.

1:17:13

No. That's, like, all

1:17:15

That's you. Every other day.

1:17:17

Yeah. How many times are

1:17:19

you googling Mike's love it. Your ad service

1:17:21

thinks this. I don't want this. The fact that you're talking about it on the

1:17:23

internet is only gonna make it

1:17:26

work. Problem I get I

1:17:28

get Vubo, that, like,

1:17:30

you could rent a whole house for vacation, obviously, because we just go to Mexico. Yeah.

1:17:32

Totally.

1:17:32

They're

1:17:38

like, wow. This bitch always wants to rent a certain house

1:17:40

somewhere in the little

1:17:43

none leaf. Yeah.

1:17:47

Yeah. They're camera. It's like, oh, we're like

1:17:50

really, like, rough cowboys, and I

1:17:52

make the half and

1:17:54

half lemonade iced tea by

1:17:56

round kicking my friend in the face with a jar

1:17:58

of iced tea and lemon. And it's like, guys, just What? It's it's

1:18:01

so like and it's a

1:18:03

little bit tongue and cheek. Sounds

1:18:06

like you have no sense of humor. It's it's

1:18:08

like you can tell that the whole

1:18:11

point of the commercials are

1:18:14

we have to, like, We have

1:18:15

to be tongue in cheek so we can make men be comfortable

1:18:17

drinking lemonade. And it's like,

1:18:20

guys, it's

1:18:23

lemonade. Like, Please step

1:18:23

outside of the unlocked prison cell

1:18:25

of gender and just have a

1:18:28

fucking lemonade without

1:18:31

making it violent That Right. I mean,

1:18:34

the the next dad company. Yeah. The amount of I mean, the amount

1:18:36

of, like, college dudes

1:18:37

that I've seen drinking White Claw

1:18:39

and if I got, like, like,

1:18:42

you you think it's not an issue. Or

1:18:44

even those, like, little,

1:18:46

like, cans of, like, pineapple,

1:18:48

vodka, drank, whatever that are,

1:18:50

like, totally

1:18:51

just malt liquor. That's

1:18:52

why I'm kinda, like, who is this Who

1:18:54

is this for? Maybe it's my bubble when

1:18:57

I'm, like, who is this for? But just guys,

1:18:59

just have a fucking lemonade. It's fine. I really

1:19:02

wanna have a

1:19:03

podcast now of, like, just

1:19:05

people of just an

1:19:07

interview podcast of of anyone just being like,

1:19:09

this is who I am, this is how I go through the world, and this is

1:19:11

my personalized ads that I get

1:19:13

served on YouTube

1:19:14

and Instagram and Facebook. That's

1:19:18

how they're, like, nothing like me. Yeah.