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everybody welcome back to Overlap Breakdown podcast as As

1:06

always, I'm joined by my co who may is

1:08

a who's who's professional a football tactical analyst

1:10

and scout. and if if you wonder what's on

1:12

the board to me, this is the

1:14

outcome of the review of the Tottenham is

1:16

game, which is on the channel on

1:18

Monday. But get to get straight into the

1:20

overall Premier League talk. we are going

1:22

to start with this game because it

1:24

was the biggest the in part of the

1:26

weekend. So even though we have done

1:28

the tactics and the review of it,

1:30

I we to speak a little bit

1:32

more in -depth about it. it. I think Chelsea

1:35

have been the think Chelsea have been

1:37

the team that terms everyone, not just

1:39

in terms of I way they're

1:41

playing had think Maresca had a style,

1:43

but we've always about him being

1:45

a bit more versatile and adaptable. But I

1:47

think for me, the thing thing me

1:49

away so much is much is how it

1:51

like kind of how he himself and around

1:53

the players, players and he seems to

1:56

have the assertiveness, but but

1:58

the tactics and but he's just so

2:00

young in his head, but you get the

2:02

sense that he's like a lot older, a

2:04

lot more mature, like cool, calm customer. And

2:07

yeah, what have you been impressed by the

2:09

most with Maraska? Because I think for me,

2:11

he's just been, he's been wicked, like really,

2:13

really good. Yeah, you know what, I thought...

2:15

Moreska's Leicester was a bit more rigid. And

2:17

I was worried that that would have been

2:19

the case with Chelsea. I think the biggest

2:22

compliment I can give mereska is the way

2:24

that I see football, the way that I

2:26

think good coaches, good managers, good analysts work

2:28

is by maximising people or team strengths and

2:30

minimising the weaknesses by getting people in optimal

2:32

situations, whether that's like on the pitch or

2:34

you know. in the training ground or around

2:37

teammates etc and what mareska's done is got

2:39

this really like global holistic picture of where

2:41

individuals are best suited and then you know

2:43

of course at the beginning in the transfer

2:45

window I assume it was because of the

2:47

high-ups but you had to make big decisions

2:50

or at least be the face of big

2:52

decisions that he didn't necessarily make and at

2:54

that time he received some criticism I didn't

2:56

love the way they handled some of the

2:58

senior players chill well, sterling etc etc etc.

3:00

Yeah, exactly, but I think that might have

3:02

been something beyond him. The fact that that's

3:05

a non-issue at the moment, he's got a

3:07

young core group of players. The fact, look,

3:09

he's not the oldest, most experienced manager in

3:11

terms of having athletes under his belt that

3:13

drive home that respect, but one, he speaks

3:15

really well. Two, he's got a good understanding

3:18

of what the club should be. Three, he's

3:20

getting the players motivated and... using them in

3:22

a way that they want to play, Sancho

3:24

off the left again, playing with separation, coquerella,

3:26

playing in that back three, but with the

3:28

freedom to come inside. So you take all

3:30

of that on board and yeah, he's, I

3:33

think he's set up to do really well

3:35

for a long time. I think this kind

3:37

of team suits him as well. I think

3:39

how certain he's been in terms of the

3:41

squad, but when he come in and he

3:43

was doing the press conferences and he was

3:45

talking about the size of squad he had

3:48

the way he handled that whole like circus

3:50

that was Chelsea at the time and how

3:52

much criticism not only he received because he

3:54

was the brunt of it or the face

3:56

of it the club the manager yeah but

3:58

in terms of how he's reacted to that

4:01

played football got the players like so well

4:03

gelled together and I think the way he's

4:05

handled Nonimado AKA for me has probably been

4:07

the thing that I've been quite like wow

4:09

that just shows I test that test for

4:11

a good manager years and I think it

4:13

was because he has good games Nonimado AKA

4:16

and then He's not, he's never shy to

4:18

be like, oh he's had a good game,

4:20

but he always backs up with, the next

4:22

line is always, but he can do better,

4:24

he shouldn't do better, he's not trained as

4:26

good as he can be. But it doesn't

4:29

sound harsh, he doesn't sound harsh, he doesn't

4:31

sound harsh, yeah, he's never harsh. Yeah. But

4:33

I think, yeah, I just think he's got

4:35

the makeup of a really good coach and

4:37

you've seen him. I know, but I know.

4:39

I think everyone was impressive in that first

4:41

game, but doing what they've done now. They

4:44

accumulated mid-week, the highest X-G of an away

4:46

team in Premier League history since Opticam began

4:48

recording X-G in 2008. So I know the

4:50

models changed and everything, but that is huge.

4:52

To do what he's doing, the rotation of

4:54

the team, especially mid-week. They played tossing and

4:56

dassie at the back. It's funny because it

4:59

feels like they got two teams, doesn't it?

5:01

And it's really one. And it's really one.

5:03

And it's really one. And it's really one.

5:05

And it's like, well, it's like, oh, you

5:07

really own a B team. You should go

5:09

in the 80s. Instead of it like, it's

5:12

like in Syria, I would have like a

5:14

reserve team, but it's like, oh, they need

5:16

promoting from that team. But I think the

5:18

conference league has almost helped them with that.

5:20

The conference team. It's like, it's like, it's

5:22

like, it's often enough, it's often enough, and

5:24

it, and it, and it's often, and it,

5:27

and it, and it, and it, and it,

5:29

and it, and it, it, it, it, it,

5:31

it's often, it, it, it, it, it, it's

5:33

often, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's,

5:35

it's, it's, it's, it but you can play

5:37

like you don't need to play all the

5:39

other plays in there. And it's just like

5:42

if you perform really well in the B

5:44

team you get a chance in the first.

5:46

The central Felix out here, yeah, really getting

5:48

there. So I think he's the way he's

5:50

rotating the squad, the way he's put his

5:52

foot down. assertiveness but also

5:55

the way he's the way

5:57

he's a young a of

5:59

players. of players. So since

6:01

the first week I

6:03

think me and you

6:05

have been really and you have

6:07

been really high praising to Moving to

6:09

Tottenham, Angie Postokal whose side one clean

6:12

sheet in the past sheet Premier

6:14

League 22 Premier League home a run

6:16

which started with a 4

6:18

-1 loss against Chelsea last

6:21

November. Chelsea last November. We've covered this on

6:23

this on Monday thought that it was one

6:25

of one of weaker games in terms of

6:27

what went on throughout the game. But

6:29

I think but I think the centre of our to start

6:31

Romero Vanderven then both being being off with

6:33

injuries in the game was one of them

6:35

where it was like, wow, nothing's going your

6:37

way. The thing is we're a team

6:39

like that, a in a situation like that,

6:42

I situation mirrors a city a bit in the

6:44

sense that the sense that... and probably get

6:46

onto it, but Manchester City, we didn't play

6:48

play we didn't play and we even though with

6:50

both of them in the side, both of looked

6:52

like that was a good solution to the

6:54

problems that we've been having. the Now. we've been having

6:56

now with in as often as they are. as

6:58

often as they are do you mitigate that?

7:00

that if you play play them and you

7:02

win your game, that's that's fine, by playing

7:05

them every days days get and they get

7:07

injured, you're potentially setting yourself up

7:09

to have have two months without a good

7:11

run of form. so with he's under

7:13

pressure. and did you see the you see the

7:15

clip where it was, all you went sort, to

7:17

went up to the fans and

7:19

they were all booing him? yeah it bought him

7:21

The Bournemouth game was really tough to

7:23

watch. watch. The Bournemouth game and game and Ariel

7:26

was a a brilliant so we're not taking

7:28

anything away from away from it. It's completely how

7:30

different they are in terms, different they are in

7:32

terms of especially the I think it's really

7:34

it's really techy right now the Spurs fan

7:36

base. I I think fans are at the

7:38

at the transfer window in the

7:40

summer the summer. I love the transfer went off,

7:42

I was young, exciting, but then when we come we the

7:45

the season, like... Oh, I was the floors a

7:47

little bit, isn't it? bit, like they've not actually

7:49

improved, when the first team came out

7:51

and I was like, not added anyone

7:53

in there. like It felt like Kulzebski

7:55

was a new player because he

7:57

was playing playing central. but then after a

7:59

few weeks... by I was looking at the

8:01

team and I was like even when other

8:04

bears now not playing and Berg Val and

8:06

Gray aren't ready and it's like they've not

8:08

really improved this team at all. I've read

8:10

the thing before where it says if a

8:12

top team is going to sign plays or

8:15

build or rebuild you're trying to look for

8:17

players who can come in and displace the

8:19

starters and then your starters almost become your

8:21

bench players. Obviously that's just it's not hard

8:23

and fast rule by any stretch of the

8:26

imagination but it feels like spurts could have

8:28

done with that more to take them to

8:30

that next stage rather than raising the floor

8:32

for two or three years time. That's what

8:34

it is. Especially when you've got a manager

8:37

who plays such high octane football and it's

8:39

like all it takes is two months of

8:41

bad results and that process is over kind

8:43

of thing. And with how physical the league

8:45

is, but how often the fixtures do come

8:48

in, you need players through our first team

8:50

quality to rotate with the ones that are

8:52

playing right now, because that midfield, two or

8:54

three, the amount of games that they are

8:56

playing themselves, I mean, they're going to be

8:59

struggling in a few weeks for sure. Yeah,

9:01

no, it's going to be a really rough,

9:03

it sounds like you say this, every week,

9:05

but it's going to be really rough for

9:07

Spurs. I really hope you can get through

9:10

to the summer. I think Daniel Levy has

9:12

got a massive job on his hands in

9:14

terms of the way he's going to recruit

9:16

moving forward. I think he has to learn.

9:18

he has to learn from the window he's

9:21

just had the manager. I've seen this a

9:23

lot in the press, I'm not sure how

9:25

true it is, but it does seem like

9:27

pasta cagliu isn't really putting his foot down

9:29

too much with the signings and demanding stuff,

9:32

which can be seen as a good thing

9:34

when you look at how Antonio Conte handled

9:36

it, very very different stuff like that. You

9:38

kind of need results to force a hand

9:40

a little bit. And it's like you can't

9:43

go up to the force. It's just like

9:45

a never-ending cycle for possible calculus. I'm really

9:47

worried that moving forward, I think they've just

9:49

entered a really tough run of fixtures as

9:51

well, taught them. So, yeah, really not looking

9:54

good, especially with the injuries, but we're going

9:56

to move on into Manchester United 2, 9

9:58

Grand Forest is free. Well

10:02

not that, just the past week of

10:04

Manchester night, because... It's interesting, because that...

10:07

No, yeah. I think... What performance did

10:09

you think was better? I

10:15

thought the forest game wasn't bad. I

10:17

thought the forest game was decent. But

10:19

I just look at this team and

10:21

I just go, the individuals making mistakes,

10:24

like the mental, the lapses in concentration,

10:26

some of the emotional, like... showing of

10:28

the team. Yeah. Manchester United about this

10:30

thing for like a decade now, where

10:32

I think because they've never really been

10:35

a stable club post like 2013, the

10:37

heightened emotions, this is why we were

10:39

playing so, this is why we always

10:41

played so good on the break, is

10:43

because you can just like spring so

10:45

fast. And I think Reuben Amorim's coming

10:48

in the first thing he's gone is

10:50

we need to slow down, like everything's

10:52

so fast pace. Yeah. but because the

10:54

soul trained in this idea that they

10:56

need to go first fast always so

10:58

transition heavy it's like when the boards

11:01

turned over and the game becomes a

11:03

little just a little bit frantic for

11:05

like five minutes yeah it's like if

11:07

an opposition has like two shots against

11:09

you they might not even be high

11:12

quality shots but if it's deflected gone

11:14

for a corner the away fan starts

11:16

cheering the squad panic so quick And

11:18

it's like, and as soon as that

11:20

happens, it's like the inevitable is coming.

11:22

We're going to concede what, we're going

11:25

to chase the game, we're going to

11:27

concede another chasing the game. And then

11:29

someone's going to get booked for kicking

11:31

out. And it's just like, I said

11:33

it after the forest game, I think

11:35

you can talk about your technical, your

11:38

tactical and all that stuff. But I

11:40

just think. some of the emotions and

11:42

the mindsets when playing for a club

11:44

of this size is scary bad because

11:46

I'm just watching players make these stupid

11:48

stupid I'm watching players dribble across the

11:51

top of the box and take a

11:53

shot from 40 yards out when we've

11:55

just recycled the board for five minutes

11:57

looking to you know fine little holes

11:59

in the shape and it's like what

12:02

are we doing like it. sensitive. And

12:04

if that wasn't enough, director of football

12:06

was just left off the five months.

12:08

I know that was... I've been really

12:10

quiet on it because any awesome hit

12:12

a couple red flags early on. Yeah.

12:15

Because everyone was really excited by their

12:17

appointment. Yeah, well I was. And the

12:19

names that they kind of went for

12:21

appeared to be, you know, or abroad,

12:23

for example, Man City, Dan Ashworth, Newcastle,

12:25

and they've all been parts of big

12:28

projects. I don't know whether or not

12:30

Dan Ashworth's influence was probably a little

12:32

bit overstated in the sense that perhaps

12:34

he was working for establishments that did

12:36

good work rather than being... It was

12:39

a background. Yeah, or yeah, maybe he

12:41

was in the, maybe he did good

12:43

work, but maybe he wasn't the sole,

12:45

sort of proprietor of that good work.

12:47

So, yeah, people are saying sort of

12:49

Radcliffe kind of leaving quite individually on

12:52

things and making decisions himself as well.

12:54

So I don't know. It's just like,

12:56

I think, when a new ownership of

12:58

at least the football inside of the

13:00

club comes in, and they make all

13:02

the cuttings that they have done in

13:05

terms of the costs, and they back

13:07

that up with some very, very speculative

13:09

decisions in the summer, in the window,

13:11

the ten hag stuff, letting him stay,

13:13

but then sacking him after X amount

13:15

of games, giving him players that again

13:18

didn't really make sense in terms of

13:20

addressing the overall picture of a squad.

13:22

It was just really confusing for me

13:24

and I'm in a situation now with

13:26

Anyos where it's I think for me

13:29

to believe in them and trust and

13:31

trust them they have to get the

13:33

next big one right. Like they have

13:35

to handle the next situation right because

13:37

what I've seen as a united fan

13:39

is since they've come in we've won

13:42

an FA Cup but it was the

13:44

worst Premier League season in the history

13:46

of the club. They then kept the

13:48

manager which is completely fine. it's not

13:50

his Premier League history, we had to

13:52

be realistic. Yeah. They didn't extend him,

13:55

they just did the option. Yeah, and

13:57

they took some time as well. But

13:59

yeah, and they took some time, weeks

14:01

and weeks after looking for loads of

14:03

new managers. Yeah. And now I'm sat

14:06

here in a position where I'm like,

14:08

well you already weren't confident in him,

14:10

we're going into a season, you spent

14:12

200 million. I'm thinking, they brought a

14:14

new manager in. I think the players

14:16

don't fit. Some good will back though,

14:19

because I think he's a good appointment.

14:21

Yeah, it's always going to be a

14:23

circus Manchesterite at the moment, so I'm

14:25

just not even. But Chris Wood obviously

14:27

scored in this game. Sean Chris Wood.

14:29

He's now the top goal scorer for

14:32

two Premier League clubs. Only Alan Shearer

14:34

is the other player in Premier League

14:36

history to have done this, or to

14:38

have maintained it. So Burnley and Forrest,

14:40

he's now the top goal scorer for

14:43

both then clubs. There was a start,

14:45

I think, I think, was it last

14:47

season. Was it last season. The amount

14:49

of non-penety goals that he got for

14:51

his minutes played, like I was talking

14:53

about it at the time when Tony

14:56

was sort of rumored to be moving

14:58

to clubs and things and I never

15:00

say, oh look, Tony's a brilliant player,

15:02

it's 50 million pound player, 60 million

15:04

pound player. I think Chris Wood was

15:06

like, equal or on more non-planetary goals

15:09

in like half the minutes. And no

15:11

one ever talks about Chriswood as that

15:13

kind of, it's sort of in the

15:15

same mold as, you know, Ivan Tony

15:17

or the likes of those mid-table Premier

15:19

League players who get touted as moving

15:22

up, Midritt for example. But I think

15:24

Chriswood fits into that as like Premier

15:26

League players, really high quality, the way

15:28

it attacks the line, I think his

15:30

movement, really impressive, really let on, because...

15:33

The forest performance performances this season rather

15:35

in playing as Kind of pragmatic as

15:37

they have been doing It's not an

15:39

easy job. I'm by the way he's

15:41

benching our knee who's Yeah, and a

15:43

langer and a langer. Yeah, so I've

15:46

got a stat here that says the

15:48

most valuable goal score is in the

15:50

League this season. So it's the amount

15:52

of goals they've scored and the amount

15:54

of points at them goals have won.

15:56

So Chris Wood has scored 10 goals

15:59

which have won Forest 12 points which

16:01

is tied with Harlan who's also won

16:03

12 points. And he's basically the only

16:05

guy. I'm going to get on to

16:07

you don't worry. But yeah, I think

16:10

securing 12 points pretty much, not on

16:12

your own, but you're putting the ball

16:14

on the back of the neck. 12

16:16

points for Forrest, if I, if you

16:18

took 12 points for Forrest, I don't

16:20

even know where they'd be, but they're

16:23

not anywhere near the top. And I

16:25

think to do what he's doing right

16:27

now at the age he's doing at,

16:29

with the confidence he's doing. And you

16:31

don't need to join, you listen to

16:33

him talk. He just like, he does

16:36

not care. but he belongs in that

16:38

top of the goals. He's like he

16:40

does it. He has done it all

16:42

his career. Like it's a reason why

16:44

the top goals go over two different

16:47

clubs. But it's like, well he has

16:49

the aura of someone he has quite

16:51

a lot of goals. I'm like, fair

16:53

look you are, like, yeah, he's like,

16:55

I can't dispute that. Fair enough. So

17:00

yeah we've just done a little bit

17:02

of research so not a gun forest

17:04

if you minus the 12 points that

17:06

Chris would have scored then would be

17:09

17 from the league which yeah I

17:11

mean you can certainly put other strikers

17:13

in there don't get about maybe three

17:15

or four goals and you have so

17:17

sort of gotten Yeah, to put it

17:19

into context, the players below him, Harlan

17:21

12 points, Mohammed Sala 11 points, Vissa

17:24

8 points, in Burma 8 points, so

17:26

the Brentford duo have got 16 points

17:28

between him. And do you know what?

17:30

We'll move on to Brentford. So Brentford,

17:32

after their win over Newcastle, have now

17:34

won more home points than any other

17:37

side in the Premier League this season

17:39

with 22 points after these amount of

17:41

games is their most obviously in their

17:43

league history. And it's their first win

17:45

against Newcastle and Premier League history, which

17:47

is crazy in itself. But on the

17:50

flip side of that, they are 19th

17:52

in the away table. I think they're

17:54

parallel, so they're better than Liverpool on

17:56

field and they're a... well as bad

17:58

as Southampton in their way form this

18:00

season. Yeah, and I think as we

18:02

just mentioned there before, this certain and

18:05

Burma have won Brentford 16 points. Yeah.

18:07

And I don't know what the, I

18:09

don't know what the phrase is called,

18:11

but they've left Ivan Tony behind and

18:13

got better. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And

18:15

it's, Yeah, you see these videos of

18:18

Thomas Frank on social media, galvanizing the

18:20

players after the game. Yeah, just top

18:22

coach, top, top, top team. I just,

18:24

I don't understand the away for it.

18:26

You know, I really have to do

18:28

a deep dive. You know, the home

18:30

thing. It's like, you would understand it

18:33

if they were like a forest. Massive

18:35

following, big stadium. But it's not, they

18:37

just feel at home, they just feel

18:39

at home, kind of thing, they're like,

18:41

they're like, they're like, they're like, let's

18:43

try your way. So they've got a

18:46

minus nine goal difference with one point

18:48

away from home, Southampton, the only team

18:50

worse than that. But to give you

18:52

an idea, Southampton, have got a minus

18:54

11 with one point, Brentwood have got

18:56

a minus nine with one point, sort

18:58

of virtually the same away from home.

19:01

Yeah, is Liverpool and Southampton and Southampton

19:03

if you're going home in a home

19:05

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19:07

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19:09

games played plus 12 gold difference, 22

19:11

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19:16

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20:22

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20:27

stick to football. Send a final

20:29

bill apart, send off for a

20:32

stamp on Gareth Southgate. Yeah, and

20:34

he deserved it. You've never cooped

20:36

the chicken. No, I've never cooked

20:38

anything. Oh my God. I think

20:41

there are a few teams that

20:43

we play against that work, clean.

20:45

I've thought we thought it at

20:48

the time. Smiling, smiling. So

20:52

we're going to get to football every

20:54

week, wherever you get your podcasts. I

20:56

feel like everyone got a lot off

20:58

the chest there. So we're going to

21:01

move on into the Arsenal game, which

21:03

is a very interesting one-old draw. I

21:05

mean Arsenal in general, I think, at

21:07

the moment. Yeah, very potential. I mean,

21:10

we worked lyrical about them in the

21:12

tactics piece, just gone, about probably a

21:14

week ago now. And we focused on

21:17

that right-hand side, the rotations between that

21:19

side. And it was very, sort of,

21:21

timber's involvement was very important too. Those

21:23

movements were attacked inside, but it also

21:26

allowed soccer to move inside, or they

21:28

got to pick the board deeper. And

21:30

then often, you know, one of Georgina

21:33

or others did move to that flank.

21:35

become a plus one, and it was

21:37

very right side heavy. The left side

21:39

is showing problems in terms of one,

21:42

a chemistry between the players, and then

21:44

two, just generally finding solutions for that.

21:46

I think a lot of people are

21:48

blaming Martinelli, but I think it's probably

21:51

harsh to blame Martinelli alone. Yeah, obviously

21:53

one califioi does come in that side

21:55

looks quite strong. have Declan Rice often

21:58

playing on that side and I don't

22:00

think he's as inclined to be a

22:02

scorer or contribute to the attack like

22:04

Odogod does. And in the game that

22:07

we just saw timber played on that

22:09

left side, I assume obviously you've got

22:11

the injuries. It's in Shanko probably not

22:14

preferred on that side. But I do

22:16

think by moving timber onto that side,

22:18

you've got three right foot players. So

22:20

you like angles in terms of recreation.

22:23

I've got to start here. Michael, erstle

22:25

haven't kept a clean sheet in any

22:27

of their last six Premier League away

22:29

games. Their joint longest run without one

22:32

during McCartney at his time. Which is

22:34

quite scary because they've gone from being

22:36

this. I'm not going to say they

22:39

aren't defensively solid still because Fulham had

22:41

virtually, I think he had three touches

22:43

in Arsenal's points for a game and

22:45

the finish from him and as his

22:48

ridiculous. I know. I said I love

22:50

these finishes where it's at a right

22:52

side, right for a left side. He's

22:54

so high on the box, I don't

22:57

know how he's got it in. And

22:59

like, yeah, just then finishes where they

23:01

take it from Rashford used to it

23:04

all the time. Yeah, same side and

23:06

to the fourth place. Yeah, and it's

23:08

just like, I don't know how they

23:10

squeeze it in the angle was. Yeah,

23:13

so. But also I've now scored 20

23:15

in 2009. So obviously everyone's saying all

23:17

the old ass, the old ass will

23:20

be a be terrified of this scene,

23:22

but yeah, the title of 2009, which

23:24

is the benga team. What did you

23:26

make of that as in? Because I

23:29

think it would be foolish to say

23:31

that Arsenal are fine in open play

23:33

transcription. No, I don't think they are.

23:35

What I've said, and I said this

23:38

a couple years ago actually, but I

23:40

said the way that Arsenal as a

23:42

team and their game model has trended,

23:45

is in reducing variance. My point is

23:47

essentially that by having really strong players

23:49

who win jewels across the pitch and

23:51

by having a team that holds the

23:54

ball for 70% of game. In theory

23:56

you're going to have one or two

23:58

breaks where you score and especially if

24:01

you maximize the fine margins in terms

24:03

of set pieces. You don't need to

24:05

be brilliant in terms of unpicking a

24:07

defense because by having so much of

24:10

the ball by giving virtually nothing up

24:12

in your own box and by having

24:14

really strong set pieces and shots from

24:16

around the area you're going to Ideally

24:19

in theory forced to issue at least

24:21

once in 90 minutes. Yeah for sure.

24:23

And it's focused on not losing rather

24:26

than being very good at breaking down

24:28

a team. Because you lose some of

24:30

that balance, for example, let's say we've

24:32

got a lot of players who are

24:35

good at picking. you know the opposition's

24:37

defense apart from number 10 areas when

24:39

you do play some of those players

24:42

perhaps you're more susceptible to giving big

24:44

chances away so it's a system that's

24:46

focused on reducing variance reducing chance but

24:48

we're probably seeing the negative parts of

24:51

that now when when someone you're attacking

24:53

chances don't fall for your way basically

24:55

don't you think I think there's probably

24:57

the most risk of us. I've seen

25:00

a title challenger in the past few

25:02

years in the Premier League. I think,

25:04

I don't really have a complaint about

25:07

it because I understand that I think

25:09

this is one of the highest quality

25:11

average Premier League's we've ever seen. I

25:13

think the average Premier League team, I

25:16

was looking the other day and I

25:18

was looking at my team and I'm

25:20

watching full of them and like Bournemouth

25:23

and Brentford and Brighton. It was just

25:25

better than us. Yeah, they're just better

25:27

than us. And I know it's outcome

25:29

bias and like recently bias in terms

25:32

of how bad we are, but we've

25:34

been this bad for about a year.

25:36

Yeah. So like, yeah, I think just

25:38

a standard. So I understand why he's

25:41

being more risk-averse than why he's, as

25:43

you said, there. Very serious. I think

25:45

it makes sense, yeah. No, yeah, it

25:48

makes sense and I think at the

25:50

moment over 38 game season, especially yeah,

25:52

I think at the moment I sort

25:54

of got some absolutely unbelievable players like

25:57

they've got Saliba, they've got Erdogan, they've

25:59

got Saka. rights as

26:01

a very special player. I think, we've

26:03

said this so many times, I think

26:05

our soul just missing that firepower attacker.

26:07

Like, Saka is absolutely brilliant, right? Everyone

26:09

knows this, but he can not keep

26:11

doing this. Like, there has to be

26:13

another player in the forward line who

26:15

can just... just create something out of

26:18

nothing. I thought when it was the

26:20

Jenko Shaka Martinelli, even though individually there's

26:22

not a sort of that wild player.

26:24

It worked a lot. The Jenko is

26:26

really good at sort of arriving those

26:28

areas and also build up like his

26:30

technical security was topping those areas. Great

26:32

a finding place in those small spaces.

26:34

Shaka could always pop in with the

26:36

goal and also have the legs to

26:38

drop back in. and I really liked

26:40

him higher up. It was almost like

26:42

that Gunduan kind of role. And then

26:44

you had Martinelli who, I feel like

26:46

you had a bit more sort of

26:48

brightness and spark, she was gaming to

26:50

the crash in the box. So I

26:52

don't think, so I do agree you

26:54

need some more just star quality. That

26:56

left eight position, I know Decorice is

26:59

good in there. It's a brilliant football,

27:01

but I think you need a player

27:03

who can. create something and I'm not

27:05

saying get rid of the dueling nature

27:07

of that player but have a play

27:09

who can create something and especially sort

27:11

of move out to that left flank

27:13

and bring one nearly inside a little

27:15

bit because I think yeah I thought

27:17

Shaq had done that quite well. I

27:19

will say this I don't like Declan

27:21

Rice isn't it? I think it's not

27:23

borderline useless I think it's I think

27:25

it's massively, massively disrespectful to what he's

27:27

actually good at. Yeah. I think it,

27:29

I know, I know why they do

27:31

it. Like I know, so to have

27:33

like a Georgina at the base is,

27:35

it's a lot better in terms of

27:38

circulating a ball and receiving a ball

27:40

back to goal and knowing what to

27:42

do in them to do in them

27:44

situations. And he's pushing deck and rice

27:46

on yes because he can win jewels

27:48

high theoretically, you think he could crash

27:50

the box well. I think if you

27:52

had. a marino, like I know he's

27:54

just come in, but it's like, even

27:56

if you just had someone like that

27:58

who can get a goal, consistently, you

28:00

know what I mean? I'm not talking

28:02

about that. I think like, I know

28:04

it doesn't make sense, obviously now he's

28:06

gone anyway, but like, sort of like

28:08

a peak Smith role, for example. Yeah,

28:10

do you know, I mean, like a,

28:12

yeah. So it's someone who can offer

28:14

just a little bit of different dynamics,

28:17

a different goal getting quality. I think

28:19

the ability to rotate to the flank

28:21

is important because you've got older guard

28:23

you can do it on this side,

28:25

timber as well, when colour fury is

28:27

in there and obviously has been injured

28:29

so that's another sort of negative to

28:31

that side's configuration. But you do have

28:33

that ability for someone to attack those

28:35

half spaces but also rotate out to

28:37

the flank and it's harder for teams

28:39

to kind of match up on that.

28:41

But yeah, a left footed player, they

28:43

need some left. Oh yeah, sideline goals.

28:45

The left eight is going to be

28:47

such a hard player to identify, moving

28:49

forward for Arsenal. Because in theory from

28:51

what we've seen a Michael Artetta team

28:53

use there, it's like they need to

28:55

be strong, fast. Like a second pivot

28:58

player who can also score goals consistent

29:00

or create goals consistently. And that is

29:02

like, it's made such a hard problem

29:04

to find them. and like and even

29:06

if you wanted to say how they're

29:08

doing right now they'd have to be

29:10

like above six foot two yeah so

29:12

it's like how do you find that

29:14

anywhere in Europe and he's like he

29:16

puts kahavas there but he looks absolutely

29:18

too foolish in that position yeah it

29:20

looks better in the nine but yeah

29:22

yeah you lose some of that as

29:24

a sort of box dominance don't you

29:26

yeah I think it's worrying I don't

29:28

think it's worrying for Arsenal but I

29:30

just think they are I

29:33

think long run they'll be fine. Yeah.

29:35

Because even if you're drawing, they're not

29:37

losing games. I said that they're the

29:39

hardest team to be in the league,

29:41

that's what I've said. But they're drawing

29:43

games, they're drawing games in, I think

29:45

Chelsea are losing more than them, Liverpool

29:48

losing more than them, but obviously they're

29:50

winning more because they play in a

29:52

more risky fashion. Perhaps that risk over

29:54

a longer period of time will cause

29:56

those teams to fall off a little

29:58

bit and also I've been... in with

30:00

the chance but I think yeah I

30:02

think there's just like a psychological aspect

30:04

you don't want it to get become

30:06

a point where it's like you're drawing

30:08

to watching and you're getting hard on

30:10

yourself and you're not sure for sure

30:12

right we're gonna move on to the

30:14

last game and we're only gonna touch

30:16

on this briefly yeah sorry I'm sorry

30:18

I mean just the city too I

30:20

think I draw from the starts I've

30:22

got it they had they had the

30:24

main they had the same shots as

30:26

you Yeah,

30:28

which is pretty scary. No, you

30:30

can't doubt the difference. But it's

30:33

1.34 expected goes to 1.45, despite

30:35

you having 69% of the ball.

30:37

Yeah. You had the same shots.

30:39

Yeah. Just, um... Really worrying for

30:41

you, isn't it? I think expectations

30:43

for the season have to be,

30:45

you know, but it's so much

30:47

more reserved. Yeah, like, Guadalajal has

30:49

mentioned it in the South because

30:51

I think the quote was, this

30:53

is a season to suffer, somewhere

30:55

like that. And one, I thought

30:57

the red card was really, really

30:59

harsh. In fact, I think a

31:01

recall probably got kicked out a

31:03

bit. I know, I think Rico

31:06

was like, didn't kick up anywhere

31:08

near as much of a bus

31:10

as I would have. I think

31:12

it's crazy how you can't, VAR,

31:14

second yellows, or like send someone

31:16

off. I don't understand. I know,

31:18

I know why, because I can't

31:20

bar a yellow, all that. But

31:22

like for that one, it's so

31:24

obviously not a second yellow card.

31:26

The thing is, like, like, our

31:28

game was still flawed, like, irrespective

31:30

of that. Yeah, of course. I

31:32

think we're certainly improving since the

31:34

bad runner form, but a lot

31:37

of our team decisions. Sorry, since

31:39

the bad runner form. I mean,

31:41

it's still in it. Yeah, the

31:43

whole season. We got a draw.

31:45

You know, fortunes are turning. Sorry,

31:47

Coyote. So yeah, like I think

31:49

in theory, we've got ideas in

31:51

terms of how we can play.

31:53

But they're all dependent on personnel.

31:55

Greelich, both of them didn't play,

31:57

even though they were really impressive,

31:59

Greelich in central midfield, Docu on

32:01

the wing, midweek, but they just

32:03

come back from injury. I think

32:05

Pep said, well the players who

32:07

came back, played a game, went

32:10

straight to the massage table. being

32:12

recovering and I'm not going to

32:14

put them back in straight away

32:16

the week after. So look if

32:18

Grilish had played there if Docu

32:20

played on that flank I think

32:22

it would be a lot better.

32:24

Nunez for his good quality on

32:26

the flank when he first come

32:28

into the team this season slows

32:30

things down a little bit especially

32:32

his palace. Good ball for a

32:34

cross for the ball. Good cross

32:36

for the goal, sorry. So yeah,

32:38

no, I think his final ball

32:40

is, only him and the groin

32:43

kind of, have that in their

32:45

luck of the season for city.

32:47

But yeah, it's very personal base.

32:49

You've got a kanji who isn't

32:51

fit, AKA, who is brilliant, again,

32:53

not fully fit, who asks is

32:55

out, Rogers out, covetages out, so

32:57

good ones playing every game, grieve,

32:59

not fully fit, fold-in out as

33:01

well, so. Injuries are basically taking

33:03

the toll I think and perhaps,

33:05

look in retrospect, we should have

33:07

rebuilt a bit more in the

33:09

summer. Yeah. But we can't put

33:11

it these things. Every injury increases

33:13

the amount of minutes another player

33:16

has to play. Yeah. And then

33:18

it just, it's a smile on

33:20

our faces, isn't it, so. Yeah.

33:22

Got a stop. here that says

33:24

in the Premier League since September

33:26

22nd you are second for big

33:28

chances conceded but the three teams

33:30

around you are Southampton Leicester Ipswich

33:32

which you've conceded 37 in that

33:34

time Ipswich have conceded three less

33:36

than you know okay so that's

33:38

a start yeah you know you

33:40

know that but you've joined with

33:42

Leicester and Southampton have got six

33:44

more than you know So I

33:47

think it's everything we've just said

33:49

is just kind of compiled into

33:51

one of the thing. Poorish squad

33:53

building in the summer, whether or

33:55

not that's because of financial reasons,

33:57

we don't know like PSR stuff

33:59

like that. the squad got

34:01

a little bit older in the summer, wasn't

34:03

freshened up enough, the injuries have caused a

34:06

massive domino effect for the entire team. I

34:08

think Pepp is trying to stay with the

34:10

same shape and structures and principles so the

34:12

team don't lose the rhythm of what they're

34:15

trying to do. But he's also being assertively

34:17

aggressive in his approach game on game. And

34:19

I think... It's very, he's not, he's not

34:21

worrying because I think, I think even you've

34:24

got to the point now where it's like,

34:26

you're not expensive. Yeah, he's like, you've got,

34:28

this is how the past like four seasons

34:30

have been for me. So you get, you

34:33

get the same games and you're like, go

34:35

and get next year, lads. So believe me,

34:37

I know how you feel, but, um. I

34:39

just want to see like an interesting solution

34:42

because Guadiol has always come up with a

34:44

nice solution. Yeah and he's had more plays

34:46

at as a disposal than he's at as

34:48

a disposal than he's at this season obviously.

34:51

When Greelish came in, I was really impressed

34:53

to see him in that midfield and him

34:55

performed really nicely in that midfield. When Ford

34:57

is back in the team, there's certainly solutions.

35:00

I think Forden has good physicality, good legs.

35:02

I think Greelish does the same thing. Neelish

35:04

does the same thing. Neelis on that flanks

35:06

and option. I think kind of walkers. at

35:09

a point where he's surplus to what we

35:11

need. And he's playing because there's injuries. It

35:13

just came worse every week though. It's really

35:15

sad. He's just playing himself further deeper into

35:18

the bad farming age. I think he's playing

35:20

the best of his ability and the only

35:22

position he can play is in that sort

35:24

of right over three. But that's such a

35:27

dangerous position to be in if there's not

35:29

that cover in midfield and he's losing his

35:31

legs himself as we've seen over the last

35:33

few weeks. So look at it's tough in

35:36

general I think with everyone fit the solutions

35:38

to put a right now it just looks

35:40

like a win or not but yeah right

35:42

now I think every solution that we've come

35:45

up with I always in the back of

35:47

mind and go but that's why he's not

35:49

doing it and that's completely like fine. sounds

35:51

foolish but like can you put newness in

35:54

a right back if if car walkers not

35:56

going inside yeah or just have them overlap

35:58

yeah completely and then because I think even

36:00

we said I mentioned to you the a

36:03

kanji thing about going inside and they tried

36:05

it against the loophole but then they watched

36:07

the Liverpool game and was like nah Yeah,

36:09

it was in fact in Liverpool when I

36:12

was really impressive at pressing and maybe you

36:14

can get away with it against another team

36:16

but last, the game before the palace one,

36:18

kanji playing right back, looked good, AK and

36:21

DS in the center back looked good, good,

36:23

Guadio as the left back, I think that

36:25

as a back four is probably the best

36:27

we've got. You got the moment. I mean

36:30

we don't have it at the moment, but

36:32

like in theory, yeah, yeah, yeah, or John

36:34

Stones, or John Stones, but you know, his

36:36

injury forms again, hitting me forms again, hitting

36:39

me. Yeah, I don't think there's much we

36:41

can do besides wait for the place to

36:43

come back, except maybe try newness on that

36:45

flag. Just to get back it. Yeah, maybe

36:48

try folding as one of the second midfielders

36:50

rather than in the forward four. Well at

36:52

least you've got an easy game next week.

36:54

Oh yeah! The only other team who's worse

36:57

are you at the moment? I always look

36:59

at our table and I think we've played

37:01

so badly and you're just not dropping because

37:03

no one else he's picking up points. Yeah

37:06

why are we still there? I don't think

37:08

like, God how bad was it being to

37:10

be to be. Do you know when Spurs

37:12

are going to Bournemouth right? They were still

37:15

in bad for obviously they were like four

37:17

for fifth and I was like how. How?

37:19

Yeah. And even if you look at us

37:21

now and you look at the table you

37:24

go, we're not out an issue. We've lost

37:26

so many games. It's like, that's what I

37:28

mean, everyone's just beating everyone and the Premier

37:30

League's at a standard where it's like... Just

37:33

a quick one, I think, like, so I

37:35

saw some, I can't remember who it was

37:37

now, but someone mentioned... Almost every team is

37:39

trying to build out from the back super

37:42

deep. Everyone's trying to go man-for-man high pressure.

37:44

Everyone's trying to use their individual superiority to

37:46

get the best of those 1-1-1-1-1-jules. They're all

37:48

playing on these set pieces. It's almost in

37:51

the same way that how the Bundesliga could

37:53

transform, well, quite a lot of things. quite

37:55

in the same way where the

37:57

same way where, like,

38:00

how the Bundesliga and

38:02

its tactics were implemented. That's implemented,

38:04

that's how the is

38:06

kind of gone gone. I I

38:09

think the only thing that differentiates those

38:11

when when the game models are so

38:13

similar, only two things differentiate or

38:15

three things, I say. One, I injuries. injuries

38:17

two fine margins so throw in routines

38:19

or pieces yeah and routines or quality. I know you're

38:21

gonna say the player quality. I know you

38:23

were gonna say the player quality

38:25

like a science from those from those three

38:27

things, if everyone's playing in a

38:29

similar style. style. There's no there's no But it's

38:31

it's like even when we went

38:33

away to whip Ipswich, Reuben and I were

38:35

in his first game and it's like I've

38:37

watched it switch like couple couple this this

38:39

season even they're trying to do

38:42

like the good things right Like things that everyone

38:44

that everyone tries like we're gonna go three like

38:46

we're gonna go gonna go man for go we're

38:48

man we're gonna press It's it's just

38:50

the... everyone's got the same same. Yeah, the only,

38:52

sorry, the only other thing I mentioned

38:54

is in that fine is in I

38:56

would include like just getting the better

38:58

just individual of individual players tendency. So like if jumps

39:00

and you playing Chelsea have playing behind have

39:03

someone running behind there or if... Like the minimal in-games of, do you

39:05

know what I the little just going up

39:07

to a player and going you

39:09

get and do that do that, you do that. think

39:11

that's a really a really think I think

39:13

you spot on honestly because when Ruben Ammerham

39:15

come in I mention this, is like we

39:17

about sub -optimal structures in and

39:19

out of out of possession and stuff, weird shapes

39:22

and all that all that, but. In

39:24

some of the the games we've already seen already seen

39:26

go to more of a 4 -4 -2 try

39:28

to by having of a 4-4-2 points a little

39:30

bit all over the place just to make

39:32

a 4 -4 -2. all over like even though

39:34

we're playing a 4-4-2. -4 -3 on paper and everyone

39:36

makes we're playing 3-4-3 on paper and three, two,

39:38

five on it a free back, we have two out

39:40

of possession, we're 4-4-2 which is single other club

39:43

in the Premier League right now. And

39:45

we're going man for man. now. Yeah, yeah. So everyone's

39:47

doing the same thing. and And everyone's is

39:49

why, if you've got a coach a

39:51

can, can, well I I think every Premier League

39:53

coach, coach, even Championship League one, League two, can

39:55

coach coach good structures in an out possession.

39:57

it's just what you're saying there, which is about

39:59

the variances. that's obvious. In mentioning play quality, I'd say

40:02

like platforming that play quality. So for example, if

40:04

I've got the groin, I don't want to put

40:06

him in the double pivot like you've done for

40:08

Belgium. Yeah, profile. Yeah, like I put him in

40:10

the right half space. So I'll get him overlapping

40:12

or I'll get him playing with the left winger.

40:14

That's why Vareska's been so good on it. Exactly.

40:16

Because he's coming and he knows exactly where every

40:18

player is going to go. Got the play quality,

40:20

no injuries, individual tweaks and then also profiled every

40:23

world. And I think even that takes like 10

40:25

games until managers lock it down, do you know

40:27

what I mean? Like really I'm going to chop

40:29

him, like still chopping, changing in his shape. But

40:31

you know eventually he's going to fall on something

40:33

and he's going to have a profile and he's

40:35

going to have. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, it's a

40:37

really good point. I think Bund is leagueified is

40:39

the premier. Yeah, and not in the way where

40:41

I know City Wundley for four years in a

40:44

row kind of thing, but I think I'm talking

40:46

about it more from like a global trend in

40:48

the practice country. Well, it's even in the pyramid.

40:50

Yeah. If you think, well, it's even in the

40:52

pyramid, like, championship seems to do the exact same

40:54

thing. 2nd Division, 3rd Division, 4th Division, like Bundesliga

40:56

2, Serie B, Serie C, I don't know too

40:58

much about football in terms of League 1, League

41:00

2. So I don't know if that's happening in

41:03

those divisions. Well everyone in League 1, League, it's

41:05

not everyone, but like most of the teams who

41:07

have gone up from League 2 and League 1.

41:09

When I was always played a free. like either

41:11

a three or a five, so like on paper,

41:13

because I've always spoken about this, if you play

41:15

a three or a five, it is so much

41:17

easier to go to your in possession, out possession

41:19

shape, because you're running rarely, it's only down to

41:21

your wing backs. So if you've got young energetic

41:24

wing backs, you can go last line and then

41:26

transition back to a three and a five, you

41:28

can theoretically, you can set up at a three,

41:30

five, two, three, three, five, so easily. Just a

41:32

couple games for your four backs were up and

41:34

down and and then he was in the

41:36

shapes are not as not as

41:38

difficult to break down. I

41:40

I assume. problem with obviously with the 5,

41:42

2, 3 shape is your wingbacks are are

41:45

the ones supporting the counterattacks. So then

41:47

you a bit of that.

41:49

that. If your midfielders are,

41:51

they get there quicker,

41:53

but there quicker, but your wingers find it hard

41:55

to get there. And

41:57

the fingers well is is physical

41:59

the of them leagues are

42:01

lower. of them like are lower. It's

42:04

players your players do go to the, when

42:06

they do transition, like like are

42:08

moments of just of just in

42:10

the games. rest in the can

42:12

So for if I make

42:14

I make a 50 yard sprint,

42:16

that player is going to

42:18

be gonna be. un accessible a

42:20

minute, But everyone on the pitch

42:22

is at the same

42:25

level. Do Do you same know

42:27

mean? I mean? So So it's just

42:29

various, just I think, but I

42:31

think, to a it's getting

42:33

to a point where doing

42:35

doing the same thing. And

42:37

it is just the

42:39

minimalistic tweaks in games in

42:41

managers. And that is why

42:44

that is why. when Reuben Abrams come in and

42:46

I at the the and

42:48

stuff, I was like, stuff I

42:50

person? how is he is a person? Like

42:52

I want him to see his personality, how likable

42:54

he communicate? how well does feel

42:56

like when you look

42:58

at And I feel like when you look at

43:00

like English football, the company went

43:02

from English to German and he

43:05

looks the same. the same. So yeah.

43:08

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