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Now let's be honest you've probably downloaded this

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episode without a clue of what's

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to come you've probably looked at

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the title and thought What the hell

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is this? What am I getting myself

0:19

into? But let me explain. This episode

0:22

is for me personally. In series one,

0:24

I told the team that I really

0:26

want you to do an episode on

0:28

grief. It was very important to

0:30

me. The same goes for this one. I

0:32

know it's not everyone's back, and I know

0:35

some people will see this kind of thing

0:37

and listen and think, nah, it's not for

0:39

me. But it's something that I'm

0:41

really passionate about. And the team have

0:43

gifted me with an episode. on crystals.

0:46

on angels, on other realms, on numerology,

0:48

on all the wonderful stuff. So before

0:50

you remove this from your downloads because

0:53

you're not into it, please please, just

0:55

give the first 10 minutes of listen

0:57

because you never know this could be

0:59

your new thing and it could help

1:02

you in so many ways. Joining me

1:04

today is Katie Sloan. Katie is a

1:06

good friend of mine for years and

1:09

years now. You're an author, you're the

1:11

founder of the Celestial Tribe that I'm

1:13

a member of, that's on Katie sloan.com

1:15

isn't it? And you're the Crystal

1:18

Queen! Katie Sloan, everybody! Wow! Thank

1:20

you! What an amazing introduction. Thank you

1:22

so much. Thank you for having me.

1:24

I'm so, so excited for this episode.

1:26

But when we said about doing it,

1:29

I was like, there's no one else,

1:31

we have to have you. So dead

1:33

quickly, Katie. Tell me a bit about,

1:35

I mean, I know, but your background.

1:37

So you've worked at the stage, you've

1:40

worked here, just what is it you

1:42

do for those who are obviously who

1:44

are obviously new? I'm a Reiki master,

1:46

I work with crystals, I teach meditation,

1:48

I teach people how to connect their

1:51

inner light and how to live their

1:53

best lives. I teach people that there's

1:55

so much more to life than the

1:57

physical and what we see with our

1:59

physical eyes. and you know I don't

2:02

really know what the title for that

2:04

is so I've come up with I'm

2:06

a celestial guide. You are, you've been

2:08

my celestial guide, my personal celestial guide

2:11

for so long and things have happened

2:13

in my life that you either pre-war

2:15

me about, pre-taught me about and at

2:17

the time I've thought oh my gosh

2:20

and you've told me what it meant

2:22

and why it was happening and it

2:24

was all true. Everything is for the

2:26

greater good and it's all about timing

2:29

and it's all about timing and I

2:31

think once people are open to that

2:33

and realizing. Signs are everywhere and this

2:35

is what's meant to be for you.

2:38

Everyone's just happier, aren't me? Everybody's just...

2:40

Definitely. So, let's take a look into

2:42

the secret healing world of crystals and

2:44

much, much more. Mia keeps seeing my

2:47

dad. She'll sometimes say, Gang and David

2:49

came again last night. Wow. And Gorga's

2:51

said, for fuck so jemma, please tell

2:53

him no. And then one morning, I

2:56

was... doing my activate with the children,

2:58

getting moving, lifted my arms up, my

3:00

crystal's come falling out my brow. Oh

3:02

no! And are we all born with

3:05

a guardian angel? Oh yes, everybody has

3:07

a guardian angel. I bet mine in

3:09

my early 20s, well you were with

3:11

me, but it would have did a

3:14

few eye rolls. I bet they were

3:16

like freaking el jemmer, come on. Oh

3:18

yeah. This one's not right. Let him

3:20

go. Even to skeptics, you know what,

3:23

what have you got to lose? Just

3:25

put it to the test? I've literally

3:27

seen a gold spark go boom above

3:29

your head. No, really! So can you?

3:32

from Nicole. Hi Jim, please can you

3:34

find out the significance of white feathers?

3:36

I've been telling my boyfriend for years

3:38

that they mean something and he's just

3:41

having none of it. Love the podcast.

3:43

Thank you. So Katie. to you white

3:45

feathers. White feathers, one of the most

3:47

powerful signs that we will get from

3:49

the angelic realms. So if you are

3:52

seeing recurring white feathers, that is the

3:54

angels giving you a little nudge and

3:56

just letting you know that Everything's going

3:58

to be okay. It's a comforting sign.

4:01

It's an uplifting sign. It can also

4:03

be a sign from loved ones past

4:05

as well, which obviously, you know, very

4:07

connected with the angelic realms in that

4:10

way. So yeah, seeing white feathers is

4:12

a really magical sign. And it's things

4:14

as well, not just people, I actually

4:16

put on my Instagram the other day,

4:19

I was Hoover in my house and

4:21

I went into the utility room, there

4:23

was two white feathers, just side by

4:25

side on the floor, literally, but underneath

4:28

a picture of me with Norman and

4:30

me with Norman and Ollie. and I'd

4:32

come I've not long come back from

4:34

crux so I had the excitement of

4:37

being surrounded by dogs but then the

4:39

journey home I was a little bit

4:41

oh I've not got my dogs anymore

4:43

and literally the day after I went

4:46

into the utility and they were just

4:48

placed side by side wow and it's

4:50

not near an outside door or anything

4:52

and I thought what the heck's that

4:55

so it could it's could be from

4:57

from pets as well yeah yeah yeah

4:59

Definitely. And whether, you know, you look

5:01

at it like that is a sign

5:04

from your angels letting you know that

5:06

Norman Ollie are doing just fine or

5:08

I've literally seen a gold spark like

5:10

boom above your head. No, really joking.

5:13

It was like, took me up. It

5:15

distracted me, yeah. I don't know, I'm

5:17

in the world. Gee boys. So I

5:19

think there's the answer, whether it is

5:22

them, like their consciousness, their spirit, communicating

5:24

with you, because they can send those

5:26

physical signs that we can, you know,

5:28

relate to in the physical realm. It's

5:31

all, you know, what we see is

5:33

just so limited compared to what actually

5:35

is. And are we all born with

5:37

a guardian angel? Oh yes, everybody has

5:39

a guardian angel. Really? At least one.

5:42

I bet mine in my early 20s,

5:44

well you were with me, but if

5:46

I did a few eye rolls. I

5:48

bet they were like freaking Aljama, come

5:51

on, this one's not right. Let him

5:53

go. So the angel, so our guardian

5:55

angel, our angel guide, they're with us

5:57

throughout the whole time in this portal,

6:00

so we say. Yes, yeah, they guard

6:02

our souls, so they are with us,

6:04

they are very linked to our intuition,

6:06

they guide us, but you know, you

6:09

have to be open to receiving that

6:11

guidance, like we all have free will,

6:13

so it's about like inviting in. your

6:15

guardian angel and inviting in their wisdom.

6:18

You know, if you can just open

6:20

your heart and mind to that energy,

6:22

you'll see such a profound shift in

6:24

your life. You do, and I remember

6:27

when you were telling me about it,

6:29

and it's actually, there's a phrase in

6:31

your book, and is it about saying

6:33

I am... I am ready, I am

6:36

open, something about letting them know you're

6:38

ready to receive any messages they have.

6:40

Yeah, so just doing like a simple

6:42

invocation, so I say this, even to

6:45

skeptics, you know what, what have you

6:47

got to lose? Just put it to

6:49

the test. You know, if you don't

6:51

believe, you don't believe, but just invite

6:54

them in and see if you see

6:56

the signs, because there will be many,

6:58

and it might just help you to

7:00

make that shift, you know, onto a

7:03

higher life path. I think a lot

7:05

of people myself included I used to

7:07

have a fear of death and now

7:09

my only fear is leaving behind the

7:12

kids before I had kids it wasn't

7:14

didn't matter but having these I mean

7:16

none of us know what it's like

7:18

so we were fearing something ultimately our

7:21

loved ones could be having the time

7:23

of their life somewhere else yeah they

7:25

definitely are your thing yeah 100% So

7:27

that the soul is infinite, so death

7:30

really is an illusion. We come here

7:32

to experience a physical reality. Our body

7:34

is simply a vessel for the soul.

7:36

And we learn many great lessons while

7:38

we're here and we have the most

7:41

accelerated soul growth while we're here because

7:43

we forget We come through what they

7:45

call the veil of amnesia. So we

7:47

forget where we come from we forget

7:50

the higher realms And that is part

7:52

of the challenge is to remember to

7:54

remember who you are to remember that

7:56

you are a soul that you have

7:59

this infinite power within you that you

8:01

can tap into and channel into your

8:03

life here. You know, it's the blink

8:05

of an eye, you know, a lifetime

8:08

here when you think of just, you

8:10

know, the infinite nature of the universe,

8:12

the multiverse, like it's mind-blowing. But it

8:14

really is magical when you awaken to

8:17

the fact that you are a soul.

8:19

Yeah. And that there's angels and guides

8:21

and loved ones supporting you in your

8:23

life journey. Because when someone does pass

8:26

away. you think you I went to

8:28

see my dad in them in the

8:30

chapel of rest and I remember seeing

8:32

him in his coffee and I give

8:35

him a kiss told him how much

8:37

I loved him and thanked him for

8:39

being the best dad in the world

8:41

and obviously it got me really upset

8:44

and my mom said to me that's

8:46

not your dad Gemma that's your dad's

8:48

body yeah your dad's not in there

8:50

anymore he's he's somewhere else and I've

8:53

always kept that with me as as

8:55

something comforting in a way and I

8:57

think yeah because you know that is

8:59

my dad's face his hair he was

9:02

six but two he's got his shoes

9:04

on but I thought his personality his

9:06

heart and the way he loved his

9:08

sense of humor that has to go

9:11

somewhere surely I can't just stop I

9:13

mean science will tell you there's energy

9:15

cannot be destroyed right it cannot be

9:17

destroyed it moves on in different forms

9:20

and you know there's a there's a

9:22

really fascinating fact and I can't remember

9:24

since the specific number but it's it's

9:26

61 grams where you know the scientists

9:28

that when a when someone dies their

9:31

body is like 61 grams lighter and

9:33

they can't explain why. and it's the

9:35

circus the soul has left the body.

9:37

And so you know we can always

9:40

throw in some logical scientific facts to

9:42

back this up and I actually love

9:44

to do that. I love to bridge

9:46

the science with the spirituality as woo-woo

9:49

as it all sounds. We can't, science

9:51

does support it. I've done so much

9:53

research into this and obviously you know

9:55

I do a lot of meditations and

9:58

receive a lot of information in my

10:00

meditations. but I was fascinated with near-death

10:02

experiences and I read every book you

10:04

can imagine on near-death experiences and they

10:07

all say the same thing when they

10:09

go to the higher realms they don't

10:11

want to come back they don't want

10:13

to come back into the physical because

10:16

it's so heavy and it's so low

10:18

vibe here compared to there like they

10:20

are literally having a ball in those

10:22

higher realms they really are. It makes

10:25

me so happy that and you cite

10:27

it's a nice thing. It's a nice

10:29

thing to know, and I've read a

10:31

book on the near-death experiences as well.

10:34

It was a story in the book.

10:36

It was a little boy. I think

10:38

he was only about seven or eight

10:40

and he passed away or so they

10:43

thought and his mum was in the

10:45

room with him and his dad was

10:47

in the corridor kicking a vending machine,

10:49

punching this vending machine. You know, very

10:52

angry. Why my son? He came back

10:54

as it was near-death experience. He hadn't

10:56

died. The dad had said that his

10:58

little boy had said to him, why

11:01

were you kicking that machine, dad? Wow.

11:03

What were you kicking that machine for?

11:05

And the little boy had said he

11:07

came up and he went down the

11:10

code and he saw his dad kicking

11:12

and then the next thing he woke

11:14

up. Yeah. So he'd like... Yeah, you'd

11:16

seen it. And this is like so

11:19

common with the different near-death experiences. They

11:21

can all tell you details that they

11:23

couldn't possibly have known. Yeah, that's what

11:25

I was saying. With numbers. Are you

11:27

at through a phase of always seeing

11:30

the number 33? If I stayed in

11:32

a hotel room, it had the 33

11:34

in it. If I looked at my

11:36

phone, it was 33. Driving, 33 miles

11:39

an hour. I saw this for about

11:41

two years. I fell pregnant when I

11:43

was 33. So obviously that was the

11:45

significance, but... Is 1111 an angel number

11:48

and 222? Yeah, there's lots of different

11:50

forms of communication that the angels will

11:52

have with us. One of them is

11:54

numerology. They'll send us different number sequences

11:57

to communicate. So 1111 is the most

11:59

common that most people say and that

12:01

is the angels just letting you know

12:03

that they're there. like white feathers, everything's

12:06

going to be okay. Then we've got

12:08

like 2-2-2-2 which is very connected with

12:10

the arc angelic realms and we've got

12:12

you know 4-4-4-3-3-3 and that is very

12:15

connected to higher consciousness shifting into a

12:17

higher consciousness so we can really decode

12:19

those those number sequences when we become

12:21

aware that they are signs from spirit.

12:36

Next we've got a text. This one

12:39

is from Kirstie. A friend of mine

12:41

has been studying angel realm cards. A

12:43

few of us are quite skeptical as

12:45

it seems like a bit of a

12:47

con. She first got into them on

12:49

holiday in Spain last year and at

12:52

the time we thought she was being

12:54

conned but she's not let it go.

12:56

Sometimes the stuff she tells us seems

12:58

really believable but does that mean we're

13:00

just being conned into it? Now we

13:02

have had a few questions actually about

13:04

the angel realm cards because I've got...

13:07

decks of cards, you know, I have.

13:09

And I've literally gone to mine when

13:11

I've had decisions to make in life,

13:13

when a decision has been made for

13:15

me and taken out of my hands

13:17

and I've thought, oh my gosh, what's

13:20

happening. And from a deck of like

13:22

80 plus cards, the ones that I've

13:24

picked, they've all made complete sense, whether

13:26

it, right then in that moment or

13:28

a week or so later, what is

13:30

it that? They do. I mean, they

13:32

don't, it's not like a definite yes,

13:35

no, is it? It's kind of a

13:37

guide. Yeah, angel cards are amazing. I

13:39

love angel cards and I specifically work

13:41

with angel cards rather than tarrow because

13:43

they're all very uplifting in an angel

13:45

card. There's no scary cards. I think

13:48

a lot of people have fear around

13:50

this subject of like clairvoyance and psychics

13:52

and all that. Well, angel cards are

13:54

simply a tool to guide you. And

13:56

so I know she said about, you

13:58

know, you know, of being conned that

14:01

really that is a fear that she's

14:03

holding on to of the unknown I

14:05

think when people don't understand something they

14:07

can be fearful of it yeah and

14:09

so I think it's just you know

14:11

what if you're curious by a deck

14:13

of angel cards and sit just breathe

14:16

and just ask for guidance please give

14:18

me guidance for whatever it is through

14:20

these cards even if you're just gonna

14:22

split the deck or pull one your

14:24

message that you're meant to receive will

14:26

come through I think I did tell

14:29

you this, when I was, Norman had

14:31

been passed probably about a month or

14:33

so, and he used to have this,

14:35

it was a red ball, and it

14:37

was, for me it's a recovery ball

14:39

that you used in training, it's like

14:41

a trigger point ball. So it's about

14:44

the size of a tennis ball, but

14:46

it's red and rubber and you lie

14:48

with it on certain points of your

14:50

body and it releases them. And there

14:52

was a running joke in our house,

14:54

Norman used to always pinch it, and

14:57

Norman used to always pinch it, and

14:59

whenever I needed to use it. I'd

15:01

go and look in Norman or Ali's

15:03

toy basket and it'd be there. And

15:05

I was sat and I was doing,

15:07

there'd been an event on some showbiz

15:09

event and I was sat looking at

15:12

the dresses and stuff on it for

15:14

a link we were going to do

15:16

on air on the radio. And it

15:18

was at night, I was on my

15:20

own in bed and the red ball

15:22

hand on heart rolled from the bathroom

15:25

to the foot of the bed. Wow.

15:27

And I was like, hello. I went

15:29

to my angel cards and I give

15:31

them a shuffle and I'd literally said.

15:33

is the someone who wants to communicate

15:35

with me?" And the carder turned over

15:38

it said yes. The answer to your

15:40

question is a firm yes. So I

15:42

thought, oh it might be my dad.

15:44

So I did some more shuffling. Genuine

15:46

I said, who is it? What do

15:48

you want? The second card I picked

15:50

out, it said you have a strong

15:53

bond with pets and all animals. And

15:55

it showed a picture of an angel

15:57

with cats and dogs at a feet.

15:59

Wow and I was just there there

16:01

you go and I genuinely thought could

16:03

it be actually possible that Norman yeah

16:06

had come back pushed a ball across

16:08

a room. Ollie was fast to sleep

16:10

downstairs in his bed at the time.

16:12

And I was just like, oh my

16:14

gosh, and it was those two cards

16:16

out of so many. Oh yeah, that

16:18

is norm, letting you know he is

16:21

just fine and being just as mischievous.

16:23

Yeah, definitely. And your logical mind will

16:25

always try and come up with a

16:27

logical explanation. Why has this happened? But

16:29

you know, you know yourself and like

16:31

you feel it, don't you know, you

16:34

know, you know, you know, you know,

16:36

you know, you know, you know, you

16:38

with our pets and pets are very

16:40

much like guardian angels. Like they come

16:42

in and they are very powerful guides

16:44

for us. They teach us so much.

16:46

it's a two-way street like the love

16:49

that we show them helps their soul

16:51

to evolve and so you know norm

16:53

not long after passing he will have

16:55

definitely been there comforting you and Ollie

16:57

is still there as well and we

16:59

know that norm waited for Ollie it's

17:02

so complex like and like you say

17:04

you know people will think oh this

17:06

is so this is so woo-w but

17:08

honestly like when you start delving into

17:10

this kind of stuff and you realize

17:12

like that everything is consciousness and everything

17:15

is energy like it's to me this

17:17

is just like normal Like of course

17:19

it, of course it was normal. I

17:21

think that's a really powerful part of

17:23

your soul mission, Jama, is to come

17:25

in and to care and love so

17:27

deeply towards animals that you raise awareness

17:30

around, you know, souls around you then

17:32

take on that empathy for animals. I

17:34

think it's a really powerful thing. What

17:36

you're doing and it is like part

17:38

of your soul mission. We're

17:49

downloading the overshare with me, Gemma

17:51

Atkinson. Very special episode actually, as

17:53

we delve into the often unexplored

17:55

magical world of crystals, angels. numerology

17:58

and more. Katie, let me just

18:00

ask you about the significance of

18:02

this year, because it's 2025 and

18:04

it's the number nine, isn't it?

18:06

Obviously it's two plus two plus

18:08

five. And nine being a significant

18:10

number in numerology, isn't it? It

18:12

is, yeah, so nine represents completion,

18:14

so. This year is huge. It's

18:16

all about completion, about tying up

18:18

the loose ends, about really preparing

18:21

for that next big shift collectively

18:23

and personally, thinking about what that

18:25

is for you, and, you know,

18:27

moving into higher energies, like releasing

18:29

outdated habits, timelines, and moving into

18:31

the new. So if anyone this

18:33

year is like going through a

18:35

breakup or they're having to move

18:37

out the house or they're losing

18:39

the job or something that's not

18:41

in their control and they're at

18:44

that panic stage of, oh my

18:46

gosh, the reality of it is

18:48

it's meant, it's a good thing

18:50

because it's cutting off the old

18:52

and starting the new. Definitely, yeah,

18:54

you've got to embrace it and

18:56

know that even though at the

18:58

time things may seem out of

19:00

control and like why is this

19:02

happening, there's always a greater reason

19:04

and actually you've just got to

19:07

surrender and trust that you are

19:09

being guided to a higher life

19:11

path. So there's a positive shift

19:13

coming. I always think it's what

19:15

will be, it's with a great

19:17

good, it's meant to happen. It's

19:19

meant to be this way. It's

19:21

really important to tune in to

19:23

nature and to the rhythms of

19:25

nature and mirror that in your

19:28

own life because that's when you

19:30

will be able to be in

19:32

harmony. In bloom with the... Yeah.

19:34

That's the thing I've never understood

19:36

how New Year is January because

19:38

I always think New Year for

19:40

me is Zaffodils, the baby lambs,

19:42

the nicer weather. Spring has sprung,

19:44

that for me feels like the

19:46

new... This is the natural New

19:48

Year, yeah, beginning, yeah. Yeah. And

19:51

with the moon, obviously, obviously we're...

19:53

Are we over 70% water? And

19:55

so obviously the moon controls the

19:57

tides and the oceans, so we're

19:59

all affected by the moon. I

20:01

mean, Mia, my daughter's only five,

20:03

she got upset yesterday. I was

20:05

telling producer match, she didn't want

20:07

to go into school. And when

20:09

I said why, she said, I

20:11

just feel emotional. And I thought,

20:14

is this moon? Yeah. Well, I

20:16

always say to our friend Laura,

20:18

like, you know, the moon definitely

20:20

watched the kids around the full

20:22

moon because that is where the

20:24

term lunatic comes from. Yeah, it

20:26

really does. And if you look

20:28

at crime rates around a full

20:30

moon, they're always way higher. Our

20:32

brain is the most moist and

20:34

organ in our body. So talking

20:37

about how we're made up of

20:39

mostly water, the brain is the

20:41

most moist and organ. So the

20:43

pull of energy on the brain.

20:45

from that full moon. Like we

20:47

feel it, we feel the intensity

20:49

of it, whether we're aware of

20:51

it or not. Like I'm very

20:53

aware of it now obviously with

20:55

the work that I do. I'm

20:58

like, okay, it's full moon week,

21:00

definitely do some extra grounding, extra

21:02

meditation. But that's brilliant though, the

21:04

whole rounding thing. I do that

21:06

as well. I sleep on a

21:08

grounding sheet and the first few

21:10

nights I slept on it. I

21:12

was tingling, I was tingly. if

21:14

I've had not a full night's

21:16

sleep. And it's just I think

21:18

because of all the detoxing and

21:21

stuff it does. And I'm always

21:23

letting the kids go out bare

21:25

feet on the grass and stuff.

21:27

Oh yeah. And that's what all

21:29

like the ancients used to do

21:31

all the time. They were outdoors

21:33

all the time. You know we

21:35

are electrical beings. We need to

21:37

discharge energy. You can't do it

21:39

through bare feet on the earth.

21:41

You discharge the... energy into the

21:44

earth. There's science to it. Science

21:46

to grounding and air thing is

21:48

incredible. It helps with everything. It

21:50

helps lower blood pressure, like alleviates

21:52

stress and anxiety. It's amazing. So

21:54

we're drawn by another guest now

21:56

on the overshare. This is Kelly.

21:58

you're another flag flyer of what

22:00

me and Katie are already believing.

22:02

Tell us why and how you

22:04

converted your work mates, what's your

22:07

story? A few years ago I

22:09

started working within my school in

22:11

a new job role and it

22:13

was working with some children that

22:15

are slightly challenging and it was

22:17

a new team, new children and

22:19

I thought you know what I'm

22:21

gonna go to work for crystals

22:23

in my bra and see how

22:25

that goes. And I do believe

22:28

that it made a bit of

22:30

difference. Maybe it made us a bit

22:32

calmer, I don't know. And then one morning

22:34

I was doing my activate with

22:36

the children, getting moving, lifted my arms

22:38

up, my crystals come falling out my

22:40

bra. Oh no! So there was a

22:42

quick grab of the crystals from the

22:44

kids and they're like, what's that? And

22:46

then my work colleagues was like, what

22:48

are you? What are you talking about?

22:50

Where have they come from? And I

22:53

was like, they've come from my bra.

22:55

And they just was like, you are

22:57

crackers. You're absolutely nuts. So we all

22:59

had a giggle and we all had

23:01

a laugh about it. And so two

23:03

nearly three years later, we're all walking

23:05

around with crystals and overall. You see,

23:07

that's the thing. At first, everyone finds

23:09

it strange and funny. But then when

23:12

they try it themselves and they try

23:14

it themselves and they realize the benefits.

23:16

everyone wants to do it. What was it

23:18

that got you into crystals? What was it that

23:20

made you think I'm going to try crystals in

23:23

my bra? I've always had crystals around the

23:25

house since I was a very young age

23:27

and I think it was possibly yourself that

23:29

I saw on on the Instagram putting crystals

23:31

in the bra and I thought that's a

23:33

good idea. That's another way. I've always carried

23:35

crystals with me like when I go on

23:37

holiday they come with me or whenever I've

23:39

done anything. I've always got a crystal all

23:41

around so. Well that's direct from you Katie because

23:43

you told me, you put me in your bra,

23:45

you told me about it, I popped it on

23:48

Instagram and now Kelly's done it and now Kelly's

23:50

workmates have done it. We've spread, with the ripple

23:52

effect of crystals in the bra, it's gone viral,

23:54

I love it. Is it because it's near your

23:56

heart because it's on your skin? What is it

23:58

that makes it worse? I love wearing a

24:00

rose quartz in now and an angel,

24:03

I love that it's by the heart

24:05

chakra, but also it's just a great

24:07

way to have them on you all

24:09

the time, for you to feel their

24:11

energy kind of, you know, it's in

24:13

the higher chakras, so you can keep

24:15

it in your purse or nearby, but

24:17

it's just not quite as effective as

24:19

having them on your body, and the

24:21

best way to do that is pocket

24:23

or broth or broth, women, bras the

24:25

way forward. Would they let you, Kelly,

24:28

put any of crystals in school? You

24:30

said obviously that you're, it's quite challenging

24:32

with students. Do you put any in

24:34

that hide, any in the classrooms and

24:36

stuff? I probably could put some up

24:38

high, yeah, which might wet hell. Will

24:40

children grant me drawn to crystals? Oh,

24:42

children love crystals, yeah. Both of mine

24:44

have been obsessed with them, since they

24:46

were little, you know, like, Tiago's age,

24:48

just love them. And with my daughter,

24:50

I'll have like... from she's 15 now

24:52

can you believe but she would always

24:55

make crystal grids with like flowers and

24:57

things out in the garden so basically

24:59

making like gorgeous sacred geometric patterns with

25:01

like crystals and and they're just so

25:03

calming for them and grounding crystals are

25:05

amazing for children they feel very connected

25:07

and drawn to them as well because

25:09

they're still open to that world and

25:11

do you do anything else Kelly do

25:13

you have any angel cards or numerology

25:15

do you or is it just the

25:17

crystal? A couple of Oracle cards that

25:19

I have around and sort of play

25:22

with a bit and I've attended a

25:24

few little groups of other people that

25:26

are sort of like-minded as well as

25:28

my sister. She's also my dad. He's

25:30

the one who started me with crystals.

25:32

He brought me my first crystal at

25:34

the Natural History Museum. We've brought me

25:36

a mummy of this because it's my

25:38

birthday. So it's always been around. And

25:40

you say having the crystalline bra helped

25:42

it work. In what ways did it

25:44

just make everything calmer or you more

25:46

tolerant? Yeah, I think probably a bit

25:49

of both. A bit more tolerant and

25:51

a bit calmer, a nice calming atmosphere

25:53

is what we try to go for

25:55

throughout our classroom. And I think it

25:57

just did, just sort of. brought that

25:59

and we know as well if one

26:01

of us haven't got crystals in a

26:03

bra or something happens amongst my team

26:05

and we'll say make sure you get

26:07

crystals in your bra charge them up

26:09

tonight and you know we sort of

26:11

remind each other Kelly thank you so

26:13

much for joining us I love that

26:16

you're a crystal advocate I really do

26:18

and I love the fact that it

26:20

started with your dad real thank you

26:22

so much Kelly thank you for joining

26:24

us and thank you very much for

26:26

having me take care So

26:33

next we've got another voice note.

26:35

This is from Lisa. Listen to

26:37

this. Hi Jim, a friend of

26:39

mine at the gym told me

26:41

about anxiety crystals. My daughter's really

26:44

struggling at the moment. We moved

26:46

house recently and she's changed schools

26:48

and I just wonder if there's

26:50

anything in it. Any suggestions? Cheers.

26:52

Anxiety crystal. But crystals are significant

26:54

for every... There's different crystals for

26:56

different emotions isn't though? Oh yeah,

26:58

definitely. So, um... crystals are amazing

27:00

for like anything and everything I

27:02

say there's a crystal prescription for

27:04

everything so anxiety Amethyst is really

27:06

good. Amethyst is a beautiful purple

27:09

crystal. It really works with a

27:11

mind energy and calming that mind

27:13

energy so it can really help

27:15

with anxiety. Rose quartz is beautiful.

27:17

It's very calming crystal. I've got

27:19

some here, yeah, I actually have

27:21

got some rose quartz in my

27:23

bra as well. So rose quartz

27:25

really good. You can have both

27:27

of them actually, some amethyst and

27:29

some rose quartz. And then I

27:31

was like a grounding crystal for

27:34

an anxiety. as well. So a

27:36

grounding crystal like red jasper or

27:38

hematite would be really good and

27:40

you could have these three crystals

27:42

kind of on you or around

27:44

you and it'll just help to

27:46

balance the energy. I have actually

27:48

got a rose quartz under Mia's

27:50

mattress and again with Tiago he

27:52

has in his bedroom. It's a

27:54

blue crystal blue. It's like rose

27:56

quartz but blue. It's in the

27:59

shape of an angel. Oh yeah,

28:01

it's lack of slazuli or lack

28:03

of slazuli. I have that next

28:05

on his windowsill. Sorry for anyone

28:07

who wants to say start getting

28:09

a crystal, start getting into the

28:11

crystals. Like a rose quartz is

28:13

a good rounded crystal to start

28:15

with isn't it? Yeah. That's a

28:17

really nice gentle energy. It helps

28:19

just to open and balance the

28:22

heart. It's very healing, very calming.

28:24

It's a great starter crystal. Amethyst

28:26

is also great and clear quartz.

28:28

Yeah amethyst is purple and clear

28:30

quartz is a master healer. It's

28:32

an amplifier of energy. So if

28:34

you have your clear quartz with

28:36

your other crystals, it's going to

28:38

magnify their energy as well. So

28:40

we definitely recommend a clear quartz

28:42

in there. You

28:50

know we like spirits and loved ones

28:52

who've passed so my Nana used to

28:54

always see and she told us this

28:56

story all the time she used to

28:58

always see a monk at the end

29:00

of her bed and he just used

29:02

to slide across and go behind the

29:04

wardrobe and as a little girl she

29:06

saw him and my mom's told it

29:08

me as well and she eventually found

29:10

out that her great-grandad was a monk

29:12

so they think it was something to

29:14

something to do with that anyway. There

29:16

was something there. And my mom never

29:18

had anything like that. I've always seen

29:20

things. I've seen my dad loads of

29:22

times. I've seen my grandma. And it's

29:24

always in my dreams and things happen

29:26

in my house. You know, there's always

29:28

something going on. And it frightens Gokka

29:30

to death because he's been with me

29:32

when things have happened. My nephew, so

29:34

my sister's middle child, he sees things

29:36

a lot. And Tyler was the one

29:38

who he got very poorly with meningitis.

29:41

He was in the intensive care unit.

29:43

And my dad came in and said,

29:45

I don't know if there's anything out

29:47

there, but if there is, take me

29:49

instead. He's only a baby. he deserves

29:51

to live type thing. Months later my

29:53

dad dropped out of her heart attack,

29:55

Tyler's survived, came out of it. So

29:57

we've always said there's parts of my

29:59

dad within Tyler. Tyler saw, he had

30:01

a really vivid dream of my grandma,

30:03

and when my grandma died it was

30:05

up to me and my sister to

30:07

sort everything because it was obviously my

30:09

dad's mom, my dad wasn't him, my

30:11

mom and dad had divorced, and we

30:13

put her in a like a green

30:15

cardigan and gave her a brooch that

30:17

she used to wear. we sorted it

30:19

all out. We didn't let the kids

30:21

see her in the coffin or anything

30:23

because they were only young. But Tyler

30:25

came to us and said, oh I

30:27

saw grandma in the night. And they're

30:29

like, what do you mean you saw

30:31

grandma? She was chatting to me, she's,

30:33

you know, and he was only like

30:35

a young lad at this point, he

30:37

must have been about five. And I

30:40

said, oh right. And I said, what

30:42

did she look like? And he said,

30:44

she had a green cardion. He said,

30:46

and she had a badge on. And

30:48

she had a badge on. And she

30:50

had a badge on. He said, and

30:52

she had a badge on. He said,

30:54

he had a badge on. He had

30:56

a badge on. He had a badge

30:58

on. He had a badge on. He

31:00

had a badge on. He had a.

31:02

He had a badge on. He had

31:04

a. He had a. He had a.

31:06

He had a badge on. He had

31:08

a. He had a. He had a.

31:10

He had a badge Barry, we'd never

31:12

discussed it with him at all, we'd

31:14

never said, oh, we'd put your grand

31:16

grandma in this. And I said to

31:18

Nina, how funny it's gone from Nana,

31:20

to me, to Tyler, me as always

31:22

chatting away in a bedroom at night,

31:24

always. Wow. So is there anything in,

31:26

just not a gift, I don't want

31:28

to call it a gift, but an

31:30

intuition within families? Yeah. Definitely, yeah, it

31:32

runs in families for sure. My Nan,

31:34

we used to say she was a

31:36

witch. Really? She would like get rid

31:38

of, my dad was always freaked out

31:41

because he had a wart on his

31:43

finger and she like, she went, right,

31:45

there you go, don't look at it,

31:47

don't give it any attention and it

31:49

would just go. He used to say

31:51

to me, Nan's a witch. line. And

31:53

you know with you saying about like

31:55

you Nancy and the monk and that

31:57

was her great-granddad. Is that right? So

31:59

I would say that her great-granddad was

32:01

coming in as a guide for her

32:03

in that lifetime. We are in Seoul

32:05

families. and we have you know ancestral

32:07

calmer to to play out and you

32:09

know we're each learning from each other

32:11

but when one when you know one

32:13

passes you can then come in and

32:15

be a guide for someone someone who's

32:17

still here yeah definitely and I think

32:19

like that story with with your dad

32:21

and Tyler is heartbreaking but it's also

32:23

really beautiful as well don't you think

32:25

yeah and you know I believe they

32:27

had an agreement before they even

32:29

came in to this incarnation. They

32:31

had an agreement that, and because

32:33

your dad, he knew that he

32:35

was going to pass at that

32:37

time, like his higher self knew,

32:39

obviously he didn't know in his,

32:42

you know, his physical self, but

32:44

we have like the soul, the

32:46

higher self. We all know on

32:48

a higher level when that day

32:50

is going to be because it

32:52

is in our sole contract. This

32:54

is what I believe to be

32:56

true. and I've done extensive research

32:58

as well like that supports this

33:00

as well. And so I believe

33:02

that your dad and Tyler had

33:04

that agreement and actually through that

33:06

happening, through that taking place, there

33:08

was this ripple effect throughout the

33:10

entire bloodline, the entire family of

33:12

awakening to the fact that there

33:14

was this really beautiful exchange of

33:16

love. between those two souls. And

33:18

I, yeah, he's definitely a really

33:20

strong, strong guide for Tyler. And

33:22

I've got, oh, like, I can

33:24

feel the energy now. Like, yeah.

33:26

Out of the three, Hadley Tyler

33:28

and Euska, Tyler is my dad.

33:30

We always say he's got the

33:32

same omen shaped head, he looked

33:34

the spitting image. Like, Nina will

33:36

send me a picture of Tyler

33:38

and say, who's this, and I'll

33:40

be like, and I'll even show

33:42

me mom and she'll say, yeah,

33:44

I've actually dad. And it's funny

33:46

because he, Tyler saw my grandma

33:48

who's my dad's mom. Me, I

33:50

keep seeing my dad. She'll sometimes

33:52

say gang and David came again

33:54

last night. Wow. And go because

33:56

I, for a fact say Gemma,

33:58

please tell him no. I don't

34:00

like it. really freak score crap.

34:02

I love it. You find it

34:04

exciting, yeah. And I actually used

34:06

to be quite fearful of it.

34:08

You've never seen them a lot.

34:10

Yeah, I mean, because now I'm

34:12

aware of the power of the

34:15

angelic realms and the very high

34:17

vibrational light that is around us.

34:19

It makes everything easier. I was

34:21

always very afraid of the darkness

34:23

and of like, you know, lower

34:25

energies, but... One thing that I

34:27

will say is when you open

34:29

yourself up to the undelic realms

34:31

that fear of the dark goes

34:33

because you know that you're always

34:35

being supported and protected and guided.

34:37

So I can relate to it

34:39

in a way because I shut

34:41

down my gift for years through

34:43

fear. Really? It was only really

34:45

when I became pregnant with Gracie,

34:47

my daughter, that I awakened to

34:49

everything. she was always supposed to

34:51

come in and shift me onto

34:53

that path because before I fell

34:55

pregnant with Gracie you know I

34:57

was on the fashion track I'd

34:59

I was a fashion designer yeah

35:01

I showed my collection at London

35:03

Graduate Fashion Week I did Project

35:05

Catwalk, I was a designer on

35:07

that and then she came in

35:09

and my life just shifted so

35:11

dramatically and she reawakened me to

35:13

all of this and I just

35:15

wouldn't have it any other way

35:17

because life is honestly just so

35:19

different now that I am aware

35:21

of the beautiful energies that are

35:23

around us. This

35:44

is your first book isn't it? Celestial

35:46

Goddess Rising. Yes, I'm writing my second

35:49

at the moment, yeah. And see I've

35:51

opened it on a page just straight

35:53

away. Charles. With Michael Raphael, Z I

35:55

can never pronounce at once. Zadiel. Ad

35:57

Kiel and Uriel, the divine, or it's

35:59

masculine angels, what else does about me?

36:01

That's the page I've opened it on.

36:03

You both divine feminine and divine masculine.

36:05

And that's actually what I say in

36:08

the book. It's about balancing those two

36:10

energies and that's how we come into

36:12

that place as well, Gemma. So it's

36:14

super powerful that you know, I think

36:16

that you have, you've got such a

36:18

strong energy. you've got a strong masculine

36:20

energy but a really strong divine feminine

36:22

goddess energy as well and that is

36:25

what makes you so powerful. you know,

36:27

and the fact that you can come

36:29

to that place of neutrality, like that

36:31

is where we want to be. You

36:33

want to be balancing those two energies

36:35

within, everybody has those two energies within,

36:37

it's like the yin and the yang,

36:39

it's the left and the right hemispheres

36:42

of the brain, you know, balancing the

36:44

logical with the intuitive, it all equates

36:46

the same thing, the masculine feminine energies,

36:48

and that's what we need to balance

36:50

in the heart and mind, to reach

36:52

enlightenment enlightenment, where we, you know, where

36:54

we evolved to such a level that

36:56

we actually don't have to go through

36:59

all of those really tough challenges. That

37:01

makes me feel better because I wasn't

37:03

crying at me as Christmas Nativity last

37:05

year. I was watching it thinking, she

37:07

looks beautiful, but then everyone around me

37:09

was sobbing and I was like, oh,

37:11

Gemma, you're not a sheep, you've never

37:13

been a sheep, you need to be

37:16

proud of that. And for your book,

37:18

again. Katie sloan.com is that where they

37:20

can get this yes and well actually

37:22

best way to get it is probably

37:24

through Amazon because prime you know next

37:26

day delivery and so that's your best

37:28

bet to order it and get it

37:30

quick you've got a celestial tribe that

37:32

I'm part of our friends are part

37:35

of so you do meditations it's every

37:37

like Yeah, nearly isn't it? I do

37:39

one live class, I know, well yeah,

37:41

if you're in the tribe then I

37:43

do recorded classes as well that you

37:45

can just catch up on your own

37:47

time, but I do one live class

37:49

at the end of every month. It's

37:52

normally the last Sunday of every month.

37:54

and yeah we really go on a

37:56

journey and you see all kinds as

37:58

you open that third eye but you

38:00

know what I say it's just an

38:02

opportunity to commit to neturing you're in

38:04

a light and we all need that

38:06

in a world where everything is so

38:09

tumultuous and there's just technology everywhere we

38:11

need that detox and the best way

38:13

to do that is to get out

38:15

in nature, to breathe deeply, to meditate,

38:17

to get you crystals on the go.

38:19

And all of these tips I put

38:21

in this book because this book really

38:23

is a journey of awakening. It kind

38:26

of echoes my journey of awakening and

38:28

it will help anyone who's interested in

38:30

this kind of thing on their journey.

38:32

And I have to quickly say, really

38:34

quickly, when we did a group meditation

38:36

with Katie, I was seven weeks pregnant

38:38

wasn't I on one of them and

38:40

I hadn't told anyone other than obviously

38:43

Gorka knew and my mom and you

38:45

said during it that the baby energy

38:47

had come in yeah and there was

38:49

loads of us on there and it

38:51

was only afterwards Katie messaged me and

38:53

said it was for you this baby

38:55

energy yeah so if you want to

38:57

get pregnant it will happen if you

38:59

are congrats and I went back to

39:02

you and said I'm seven weeks pregnant

39:04

and I was and then a couple

39:06

of weeks before my gender scan I

39:08

said to you know what it is

39:10

you said yeah do you want to

39:12

know and I said yes and you

39:14

said it's a baby boy and he's

39:16

gonna have lots of masculine energy and

39:19

he's his dad parts of your dad

39:21

yeah and again I had the scan

39:23

and she was right. Oh I love

39:25

that story but you know in that

39:27

meditation I remember it really profoundly because

39:29

I was seeing lots of white light

39:31

around you and Archangel Gabriel is very

39:33

connected with white light and Archangel Gabriel

39:36

often will come in if there's a

39:38

child you know on the... you know

39:40

wanting to come through if someone's pregnant

39:42

Gabriel will kind of be there so

39:44

I thought oh this is interesting and

39:46

then I really felt like this this

39:48

kind of playful boy energy and I

39:50

thought she's gonna have a little boy

39:53

but I didn't I didn't know that

39:55

you were pregnant at that time but

39:57

that was just what I kind of

39:59

felt and I thought should I tell

40:01

her but what I've learned over the

40:03

years is just always speak your truth

40:05

even though if sometimes it might not

40:07

work out or people don't understand it

40:10

just say it anyway yeah because that

40:12

magic happened you know you were really

40:14

excited to get that message and if

40:16

I hadn't told you I would have

40:18

then told me and I would have

40:20

gone I knew that yeah should have

40:22

told her I already knew I

40:32

really hope that if you tuned in

40:34

and downloaded this episode, whether you're a

40:37

skeptical and bewildered, I hope that you've

40:39

learned something, or even just discovered something

40:41

about the magical world that's helped me

40:43

through so much genuinely. Like Katie said,

40:45

there is so much more than meets

40:48

the eye, and if we can just

40:50

tap into our inner... in a goddess

40:52

and just be open to it. Before

40:54

we go as well I want to

40:56

be clear that at no point am

40:58

I recommending any of the suggestions in

41:01

this episode to be used in place

41:03

of any medical treatment. Obviously our advice

41:05

from the other share is always consult

41:07

with a GP with any medical conditions.

41:09

Thank you Katie tell me one last

41:12

time how people can find out more

41:14

about you where they can find you

41:16

your website. at Katie Sloan. Actually I

41:18

do just want to say I am

41:20

bringing out an app very soon. I

41:23

haven't got a launch date yet but

41:25

it will be soon and on there

41:27

will be crystal meditations for kids. Obviously

41:29

for us, but for kids which is

41:31

just so good for them. They did

41:34

that in schools and stuff. It would

41:36

be amazing. You know I actually have

41:38

got a dream and that is to

41:40

bring crystals and meditations into the classroom

41:42

to help kids to focus and ground

41:44

their energy and just distress because I

41:47

just feel like... in this day and

41:49

age a lot it's a lot for

41:51

them to deal with exams and stuff

41:53

yeah yeah that is episode 11 genuine

41:55

episode 11! producer Matt even that in

41:58

itself is special. Thank you for coming

42:00

on this journey with us. There's one

42:02

more to go in our second series

42:04

unless of course you've listened completely out

42:06

of order. Then only you know where

42:09

you're up to and what you're listening

42:11

to but thank you nonetheless. The Overshare

42:13

is produced by Matt Foister and Molly

42:15

Carter for Bower Media. I'm Gemmer Atkinson

42:17

this is Katie Sloan. See you next

42:20

time on the Overshare! You

42:23

can overcome anything, come and come through

42:25

the other side. Everything is temporary. I

42:27

read a quote and it said, Ships

42:29

are safe in the harbour, but that's

42:32

not what ships were made for. And

42:34

I thought it's so true, you have

42:36

to get out there and experience. And

42:38

I always think as well what helps

42:41

keep me balanced is to never celebrate

42:43

the highs so high and to never

42:45

dwell on the lows so low. So

42:47

you keep everything balances in like, like

42:49

if a great... job came in or

42:52

you know even when we found out

42:54

we're pregnant I was like this is

42:56

brilliant this is happening let's go with

42:58

it but I think to celebrate the

43:01

highs too much the only way he's

43:03

down if you go all the way

43:05

up and then if you get sucked

43:07

into the negative too much you bring

43:09

yourself to the point where your physicality

43:12

and everything changes. So some people say

43:14

you don't get chuffed about anything or

43:16

you don't get sad about anything. And

43:18

I do, but I just never let

43:20

it internalize how I'm dealing with things

43:23

because you just, you may need a

43:25

good place. Yeah. This is really advanced,

43:27

you know, Jam, I'm like, wow. This

43:29

is the Buddha from your past life

43:32

coming through.