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Hunger Games we're gonna recast it

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this you know the recasting of

4:38

properties of movies this was something

4:40

we kind of did back in the day

4:42

and then I don't know if like I

4:44

just remember reading a couple surveys

4:47

and people like that episode sucks and

4:49

we just never did it again so

4:51

I don't know if that was like

4:54

a mandate or I just like read

4:56

some bad feedback but we haven't done

4:58

it for a minute. Not long

5:00

before we launched the podcast, you

5:02

and me and Amanda and Jared,

5:04

we did a group podcast where we

5:07

hunger games full house. Do you remember

5:09

that? I do. And I still,

5:11

it's one of those things that

5:13

like looks hilarious to me on

5:15

a whiteboard. Right. But as you

5:18

learn in producing, some ideas are

5:20

not actually good content ideas. They're

5:22

just funny on a whiteboard. So

5:24

the idea was like, we took

5:26

the cast of full house. I'm

5:28

explaining. Who got to the end?

5:31

Like, was it Uncle Jesse? I

5:33

think I picked Comet, the dog,

5:35

obviously, for obvious reasons. But I

5:37

just thought that was a hilarious

5:39

way to think about all TV

5:41

shows. That's right. Do you

5:43

remember who you picked? No. Absolutely

5:46

not. I could find the notes,

5:48

though. I'll have a hilarious way

5:50

to think about all TV shows.

5:52

That's right. Do you remember

5:54

who you picked? No. Absolutely

5:57

not. It could have been could have been then might

5:59

be more so now I don't know. Like

6:01

a lot of those movies that

6:03

we recap that people will really

6:05

like. Some of the meanings and

6:07

intents are very ambiguous. I'm excited

6:09

to do this because it's such, I

6:11

mean, even if it wasn't like your

6:14

coming of age, like franchise of choice,

6:16

I think it had a lot of

6:18

pop cultural currency. There are a lot

6:21

of people involved who went on to

6:23

do different interesting things. So it is

6:25

a bit of a touchstone culturally

6:27

speaking, you know. game's book came

6:30

out 17 years ago, 17. And

6:32

then the movies, the first movie,

6:34

came out 13 years ago. So

6:36

13 years in the life of

6:39

Jennifer Lawrence, she's seen some things.

6:41

She's seen some things. Yeah. Aaron, did you,

6:43

um... I can see you being like above

6:45

it and be like I'm not going to

6:47

read this because everyone's telling me to read

6:49

it or were you early in on Hunger

6:51

Games? Oh no I really liked the Hunger Games

6:54

but then I like I fell off I didn't

6:56

watch any of the Snake stuff I didn't I

6:58

haven't done anything since then but I was I

7:00

was really into it when it first came out.

7:03

You read the books and watch the movies?

7:05

I did both. Yeah yeah you do okay

7:07

so what we're going to do here is

7:09

we're just very simply going to recast going

7:11

to recast the characters. to instead of

7:13

like using all space and time

7:15

to recast, not to bring some

7:17

order or cohesiveness to it, almost

7:19

like we both picked a certain

7:22

span of time as if the

7:24

Hunger Games existed, if the movies

7:26

were being cast in that timeline,

7:28

who would portray the principal characters.

7:30

Do you want to talk about

7:32

what timeline you chose Jamie? So

7:34

I have chosen the 90s. Listen and...

7:36

Knox is very kindly talking about that

7:39

as if both of us need an

7:41

electric fence to keep us in, but

7:43

he knows that's me, that I'm going

7:45

to be like, well, this is going

7:47

to take me 18 days to prep,

7:49

if everybody is available to me. But

7:51

I am doing a 90s teen romp,

7:53

okay, but there's a war and a

7:56

lot of these teens will die. Now,

7:58

think of it as a clue. meets

8:00

cruel intentions, they have a baby

8:02

and that baby is a great

8:04

archer and in a weird thresum.

8:06

So, right? Are you into my

8:08

imaginary baby? Clueless and cruel

8:10

intentions, you could convince me,

8:13

actually took place in the capital.

8:15

I don't see a lot of

8:17

connected tissue to like the rugged

8:19

district 12, but I'm willing to hear it,

8:21

you know. Well, listen, that's why we're

8:23

gonna add in a splash of con

8:26

air to keep it grounded and a

8:28

little dirtier. I'm fascinated to hear.

8:30

So I chose the 2000s, like the early

8:32

2000s. We even get a little like mid-2000s,

8:34

maybe even late odds, but I wanted to

8:36

kind of ground it there because that's when

8:38

I was, you know, in high school, that's

8:41

when I was really paying attention to stuff.

8:43

So I wanted to cast people who, if

8:45

they were casting this movie at that point,

8:47

these folks would have definitely gotten

8:49

a call on the movie. There's

8:52

some spicy choices. I'm not going

8:54

to lie to you. There's some

8:56

very spicy choices, but I'm eager

8:58

to talk through it. I mean,

9:00

do you want to go, do

9:03

you want to start like with,

9:05

like from the top bell and

9:07

go catness? Or should we like

9:09

build up to catness? Which should

9:11

you prefer? So as a reminder,

9:14

for those who don't know,

9:16

catness, strong. independent, survivalist, difficult

9:18

past. Not necessarily really good

9:20

at making friends, particularly we

9:23

talk at length in the

9:25

collection about how it's obvious

9:27

she has no female friends.

9:29

Yeah. Because that's the only way she

9:32

can become this person. Again, if she

9:34

just had a girlfriend, she would

9:36

be much more grounded. Or someone like

9:38

when people are talking about her.

9:40

people more often talk about how she

9:43

hits squirrels straight in the eyeball than

9:45

anyone says she's like got she's a

9:47

fun hang she's got good jokes nobody

9:50

wants to hang out with catness no

9:52

one says that the whole time and

9:54

she is wildly committed to her

9:56

family despite the fact that neither

9:59

of them sister or her mother seem

10:01

to give that much of an F

10:03

about her. Like I'll be honest. They're

10:05

more interested in Gail than I think

10:08

they're ever interested in her. Which is

10:10

true of this character that I'm choosing

10:12

to cast. So I am choosing to

10:15

cast as Katniss in my 90s teen

10:17

romp moulon. And I do mean animated

10:19

moulon. It is very important. This

10:21

is this is this is going

10:23

to be a live action with animation.

10:25

Allah who Roger rabbit. Roger rabbit. So

10:27

we're sticking tightly to the 90s

10:30

vibes. Okay, listen, because my theory

10:32

is if Moulin, that's Moulin,

10:34

by the way, strong, independent,

10:36

survivalist, cares only about her family,

10:38

has no female friends, that's Moulin,

10:41

okay? And if you can be good with

10:43

a sword, I assume you can be good with

10:45

a bow and arrow? They feel like the same

10:47

skills. Interchangeable, don't add us

10:49

weaponists, please, you know, just leave

10:52

that. No, and Moulin. Eventually,

10:54

even, listen, and obviously Milan

10:56

has one of the best

10:58

Disney princes of all time,

11:00

but I do see that

11:02

she could easily get caught

11:05

up in a three-some because, again,

11:07

no female friends to go,

11:09

hey, a three-some may not by the

11:11

right choice. Yeah, heads up, heads

11:14

up. Yeah. I, so is, just

11:16

so I understand. Are the rest of

11:18

the people animated cartoons or is

11:20

that's a surprise? I'm excited. You did

11:22

say Roger Rabbit, so I feel like that

11:25

there's a lot of wiggle room. There is

11:27

a lot of wiggle room. So there's

11:29

going to be a mix. I

11:31

look forward to eggs. If you

11:33

say Peters, Bob Hoskins, I'm gonna

11:35

have a problem. No, you can

11:37

trust me. I don't make your

11:39

choices. Yeah, don't worry about it.

11:41

I love the idea of like,

11:43

she'll bring on her to us

11:45

all, you know, that, that vibes

11:47

with District 12. I do. And

11:49

if people are like hung up

11:51

on the logistics of this, like

11:53

how does this, like how does

11:55

this happen? Panam and Asia and

11:57

then she gets like tossed

11:59

in there's a peacekeeper who loses

12:01

her record and suddenly she's in

12:04

the hunger games and she's not

12:06

thrilled about it but she's gonna do

12:08

what she's gotta do. But she's gonna

12:10

do what she's gonna do and when she

12:12

has to sit down and sing with

12:14

Ru yeah guys you want Leah

12:16

Salonga singing you don't want Jennifer

12:19

Lawrence that's who you want Jennifer

12:21

Lawrence that's who you want okay okay

12:23

I'm not going to do this where we

12:25

shade Jennifer Lawrence's voice because I

12:27

love to Wired, I like Ryan

12:29

Gosling and Lala Land. I like,

12:31

I hate that I'm doing this

12:34

Aaron, but I need an ally,

12:36

I like the rock in Moana

12:38

singing, okay, and I like Jennifer

12:40

Lawrence. Tired, like Rachel Zegler singing

12:42

in any movie, right? Like I

12:44

don't need you really great singing,

12:46

I need you to like be

12:48

kind of mid-sing. That sounds like

12:51

a retired youth group worship leader

12:53

talking right now. That's what that's

12:55

all about. See, I kind of

12:57

agree with Knox. I really want,

12:59

no, here's the thing, like we

13:01

don't need, there is musical theater,

13:03

there are musical movies, and that's

13:06

where the good singers go, right?

13:08

That's exactly right. I don't necessarily

13:10

think that like we need to

13:12

hear like, I think it would be

13:14

weird if we listen to the

13:16

hunger, if we watch the hunger games,

13:19

and she like pulled out of a

13:21

vibrato, like that would better tone. No.

13:23

I don't think she had time

13:25

for voice lessons while she's shooting squirrels

13:28

in the eyes. Thank you, Erin. She

13:30

doesn't have time to make friends. How

13:32

would she harmonize? It's absurd. Again, I

13:34

do think these are two people who

13:37

are telling you this, who also are

13:39

like, no. I want to be a

13:41

singer. I want, when I go to

13:44

Broadway, I expect music bad acting, I'm

13:46

sorry, music good acting bad. Movies I

13:48

expect acting good music bad. Okay, when

13:51

I see Justin Guarini as little sweet

13:53

Hey, hey, hey, careful careful. I need

13:55

good singing and I get good singing

13:58

because he's great as little sweet I

14:00

tried to, when I was looking at

14:02

each of these characters. You don't

14:04

need to do that. You

14:06

don't need to do that. I'll

14:08

never forget, I'll never forget. Just

14:11

try, just try and Jamie. I

14:13

hate it. Okay. My catness, I

14:15

tried to, when I was looking

14:18

at each of these characters. I

14:20

tried to have like organizing principle,

14:22

right? Like what is, what am

14:25

I going for here? Kind of

14:27

like you laid out, right? Like,

14:29

survive. Oh, I don't have an

14:32

organizing principle. No, you did. You

14:34

laid it out. You're like, here's

14:36

the kind of profile I'm looking

14:38

for. Okay. And it's very similar

14:40

to yours. Like, I wanted strength,

14:42

but I also kind of wanted

14:45

the balance of a sense of

14:47

unease in the world, right? where

14:49

there's a bit of a obvious

14:51

duality of like, yes, you fit

14:53

really well in this aspect, but

14:55

I can see how other things

14:57

would be very awkward and uncomfortable

14:59

for you. So I've got four

15:01

nominees, I want you to help

15:03

me make the choice. Number one, I've

15:05

got Julius Styles, okay? I like

15:07

a Julius Styles because she seems

15:10

very capable, she seems very resolute

15:12

and strong, but she also feels

15:14

like... like she'd be very bad

15:16

at politicking and making friends. Okay?

15:18

Yeah, no. I've got Natalie Portman.

15:20

She seems a little bit more

15:22

well-rounded than the others, but in

15:24

terms of like a 2000's adaptation,

15:26

she does look like she can

15:28

read a little younger, she's kind

15:30

of plucky, I can see her

15:32

being like a underdog character. Yes,

15:34

I like that. I've got a Kira

15:36

Knightley. I feel like she's tough. The British

15:38

thing's going to be tough. I don't know

15:40

how to explain that. It's going to be

15:43

easier to explain an animated Asian woman in

15:45

the Hunger Games. That's a harder thing for

15:47

you to deal with, but I still, I

15:49

might explain why there are British women over

15:51

here. How did she get here? And then

15:53

lastly, in terms of like someone who is

15:55

really good at one thing, but not really

15:57

good at another thing. I've got Blake Lively.

16:00

What's the thing she's good at?

16:02

What's the thing she's good at? Being,

16:04

she would look great as

16:06

the mockingjay, right? She would look

16:08

great as like on the poster. Now,

16:11

in terms of, Cressida would be

16:13

so aroused by it. What a

16:15

canvas to work on, right? But in

16:17

terms of inspiring people and

16:19

making friends and allies? I

16:22

don't know. It could be tough.

16:24

It could be tough. We'll find

16:26

out in court in March of

16:28

2026. We'll find out. So Julius

16:30

Styles, Natalie Portman, Blake Lively, Cura

16:32

Knightley, who are you leaning

16:34

towards? Listen, I actually am

16:36

going to pick Natalie Portman

16:38

and here is why. I

16:40

think she's the right choice

16:42

because recently she was seen with

16:44

Paul Mescal on the street and

16:46

they were both smoking cigarettes. But

16:49

she then she was like, no,

16:51

no. Don't be ridiculous. I don't

16:53

think Natalie Portman has female friends.

16:55

I think she's very drawn to

16:58

the masculine, which is why she

17:00

was the mistress to her husband

17:02

when he broke up with his

17:04

long-time living partner. So she feels

17:07

like complicated enough, but still cute

17:09

and accessible. I think a lot of people

17:11

are like, no, I love Natalie Portman.

17:13

And to be honest, it does not feel

17:15

like she could say either. So Natalie

17:18

Portman, it is. So that'd be

17:20

super charming. And like Natalie Raps,

17:22

she can dial up that intensity,

17:24

which she needs to do a

17:26

propo, you know, with blue tark

17:28

and everything. So I feel like

17:30

she could really be good on

17:32

camera. Okay, so that's catness. Let's

17:34

go to Gail, Jamie, who are you

17:36

casting? Gail. So as a reminder, Gail

17:38

thinks in very black and white terms,

17:41

either things are right or they're wrong.

17:43

He doesn't really see gray. He is

17:45

often angry and moody. about Katniss,

17:47

right? But he's hot, okay? He's

17:49

very hot. I think he's hot

17:52

in the books too, the way I

17:54

imagine him, but he's also hot in

17:56

the movie. I think the most important

17:58

part of Gale. is that he

18:00

has to be red hot. Yes, to be

18:02

red hot. And so this actually was

18:04

inspired by a recent visit to the

18:07

Academy of Motion Pictures Museum. I went

18:09

to the museum and they had a

18:11

whole set up all about a tribute

18:13

to Boys in the Hood. And let me

18:15

tell you what I had forgotten. How

18:17

hot Morris Chestnut is. Oh, he's a

18:20

hot guy. He is very hot. As

18:22

a reminder, he played Ricky Baker. It

18:24

did not work out for him. He

18:27

was an aspiring athlete. He's worried about

18:29

his brother, which feels like you can,

18:31

all the family, everybody in Boys in

18:33

the hood, loves him, which feels very

18:36

much true of District 12. Like, people

18:38

are like, oh, Gail, he's great. Like,

18:40

Gail's amazing. But mainly, he's hot. If

18:43

you look up a picture of a

18:45

picture of 1991, of 1991. Morris Chestnut.

18:47

Yeah, you could live on that. You could live

18:49

on that for days. You don't need eggs. You

18:52

got Morris Chestnut pictures. Yep. So that's

18:54

who's going to be my gale. And that's

18:56

difficult for me because I want to move

18:58

on and Morris Chestnut to you end

19:00

up together. Sure. But it will not be

19:03

in the cards for them. Sadly, it's not.

19:05

I like that choice. I think

19:07

that's really good. It's a very

19:09

rugged, very masculine. kind of choice,

19:11

you know, and similar to you,

19:13

the organizing principle for me was,

19:15

is that ruggedness, is that masculine

19:17

ability, but also that visible

19:20

duality of extremely capable

19:22

physically, like if there was a

19:24

plane crash, you would look to Gail

19:26

and be like, he's got, I can

19:28

trust what he's going to do. At

19:30

the same time, if there is a

19:32

situation regarding any emotional nuance, you would

19:34

look at Gail and be like, this

19:36

is not the person I need to go

19:38

too fast. They're not equipped to handle this.

19:40

So I wanted to cast according to those

19:42

lines. And when I was looking at the

19:44

2000s, initially I was like, ah, this is

19:46

kind of difficult here. I wasn't finding someone

19:48

who was fitting exactly the profile I needed,

19:50

but then I opened it up a little

19:52

bit and I had to think a little

19:54

bigger. And I was like, oh, actually, I've

19:56

got three incredible candidates, both equally incredible in

19:58

their own right. Okay. First up, I do have,

20:01

again, remember, capable physical, capable,

20:03

capable physically, stunted emotionally, I

20:05

have chained him. I have

20:08

chained him. I'm thinking of it

20:10

especially like from She's the man.

20:12

Yeah, it's that exactly. No, that's good.

20:14

That's a good one. Being like, I don't

20:17

know how to handle your feelings, but

20:19

I can handle your body. He

20:21

does feel like somebody who would stop

20:23

mining to watch a quick news clip on

20:25

the TV in the mine. He, I can see him

20:28

wash his hands looking up. And just

20:30

being like, dad gum, she's smooching

20:32

that guy again and just going

20:34

back down and getting in mind.

20:36

So Channing Tatum, I also

20:38

have probably my preferred candidate.

20:41

Okay. Mr. Michael B. Jordan.

20:43

Okay. Physically? Got it. Emotionally? I don't

20:45

know. I don't know if he's the guy you

20:47

go to. I think he's more prone to being

20:49

that guy than Channing Tatum, certainly, but I can

20:51

see him as a guy that you want to

20:53

write home about. Listen, we could ask Lori

20:55

Harvey, is he emotionally available? She would

20:58

probably say no. And so it fits

21:00

perfectly. I'm thinking of him in, can we, can

21:02

I have him in the, where would I, I'm picking him

21:04

from Fruitville Station, is that who

21:06

I'm going from, is that where I'm going

21:08

from? Is that where I'm going from, because

21:10

it, because it, because it, because it, because

21:12

it, is, is, is, where I'm, is, where

21:15

I'm, is, where I, where I, where I,

21:17

So you want him still a little jacked,

21:19

but not quite as jacked as he becomes

21:21

maybe creed one before there you go That's

21:23

a good call. Okay. That's perfect. Yeah, and

21:26

then last up. So I have two guys

21:28

who fit the profile identically, right? This is

21:30

more of you know, like sometimes

21:32

you read about movies and It'll be like,

21:34

you know, Marga Robbie was considered for this

21:37

and Gwyneth Paltrow and then Brittany Spears And

21:39

you're like, wait, what? What's going on here?

21:41

There's like the zag pick, right? There's always

21:43

one of those in the mix. And you're

21:45

like, I guess the director was going for

21:47

vibes or something. They were just like, they

21:50

were going for the not typical kind of

21:52

choice. So I want to go there. This

21:54

is not going to be as visually appealing.

21:56

But I feel like this person, when you

21:58

look at him, you would say. Yes, he does

22:01

live in District 12. And yes,

22:03

there is something of a complicated

22:05

situation. He is a resident in

22:07

a place. That's right. A resident

22:09

of a place meant to represent

22:11

Depression-era America. Okay. And that is

22:14

Gary from Teen Mom, season one

22:16

specifically. Wow. I haven't heard

22:18

you mentioned Gary from Teen Mom.

22:20

I know. The light bulb went off and

22:22

I was like, this is Gary's time.

22:24

Let's talk about. If you are an

22:26

O.G. listener, you know the affection that

22:29

Knox has for Gary. Unless he's

22:31

problematic now and probably now,

22:33

then I disavow. But if

22:35

he's still cool, then I'm still cool.

22:37

I'll check. Yeah, I love Gary because

22:39

Gary is a caretaker. Yeah. You know,

22:41

and like, that's what I feel like.

22:43

Gail is like, I'm gonna, because even

22:45

in the end, not as well, but

22:47

he was like, my job was to

22:49

take care of your family. Yep. And

22:52

maybe I didn't do a good job,

22:54

but I tried. That feels like Gary

22:56

from Teen Mom. But and I also,

22:58

you know, there's the SEC dynamic of,

23:00

I don't know if you've ever seen

23:02

the pictures of like the smoking hot

23:05

lady and then a guy who looks

23:07

like Gary from Teen Mom with her.

23:09

And that's just how it works that

23:11

way in Hollywood in Hollywood.

23:13

Arianna Grande, Megan Fox,

23:15

Selena Gomez, these are

23:18

hot women with mid-men,

23:20

like mid-mid-looking men. Listen, one

23:22

of my favorite running jokes

23:24

from Running Point is that

23:27

Kate Hudson's character married Brian

23:29

Austin Green from 9-2-1-0. It's

23:31

good. Good callback. That's

23:34

actually excellent. Aaron, do you

23:36

have an update on Gary?

23:38

Yeah, his last Instagram was

23:40

a picture of a BLTA.

23:42

Because he said Leah and Christina

23:44

wanted B.L.T.A. So I said I got

23:46

you and made them B.L.T.A.s it smacked.

23:48

That's all in joy. So... An avocado?

23:51

Is it avocado? I believe so, yes.

23:53

Wow. Yeah, my favorite thing is that

23:55

when Aaron went to look for, is

23:58

someone problematic, she went to their own... No,

24:00

no, no. I did a Google search and his

24:02

Instagram did come up. I don't see anything. To

24:04

be fair, I feel like you can tell

24:06

someone's problematic by their Instagram. You

24:08

can be like, there's not something

24:11

overtly here, but I can tell

24:13

your problem. Oh, listen, his last Twitter

24:15

post was, I'm beyond proud of Emily

24:17

Grace and Leahy Ann, education is highly

24:19

important. As a parent, I hope it

24:22

can somewhat reflect me L-O-L. Just girl

24:24

dad supporting his ladies, you know,

24:26

just out there. I love it.

24:28

That baby Lea Leanne Yeah Maybe

24:30

he didn't have anything to do

24:32

with this. I didn't know that

24:34

Maybe his is this last name like

24:37

gray. Is he like Gary Gray from

24:39

team mom? Gary Shirley Gary Shirley.

24:41

What's strong name? I love it.

24:43

Am I bad for one and

24:45

Gary from team mom to be

24:47

gale? I think I've I've been

24:49

convinced it's scary. It's Portman and

24:51

Gary. Natalie Portman and Gary. The sexual

24:53

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Okay, what's PETA? PETA is this likable.

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He is more charismatic in the

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books, but he does have a

31:26

lot of charisma. Everybody meets in

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31:30

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31:32

So you've got to have somebody

31:34

who's kind, who's gentle, who's also,

31:36

you know, obviously we learn in

31:38

the Hunger Games collection that his

31:41

diglet is formidable. We talk a

31:43

lot about it. with no contacts. And

31:45

so I was thinking who in the

31:47

90s could get a sourdough started in

31:49

the streets and be a powerhouse in

31:52

the sheets. And it is, of course, I

31:54

almost said be a finger painter in

31:56

the sheets, but I didn't. So credit

31:58

to me, credit to me for not

32:00

saying that. Thank you. I do

32:03

like finger painter in the sheets.

32:05

Correction. Thank you. Uh, it is

32:07

Jonathan Taylor. It's Jonathan Taylor. Whoa.

32:09

That's a good. Really good. That's

32:11

a great. That's like I say

32:13

I built it around Milan. I

32:15

built it around Jonathan Taylor. Thomas.

32:17

I was like, okay, who is

32:19

he in this? But think about

32:21

it. You see him painting his face

32:24

with granite. to blend in.

32:26

He's not going to be

32:28

physically formidable, but he is

32:30

going to be someone that

32:32

you go, no, he's a

32:34

caregiver. That's the person, you

32:36

don't stoop him, you marry

32:38

him. And that is exactly

32:41

what Moulin needs. She needs

32:43

that. I really like Jonathan

32:46

Taylor Thomas because they're, the

32:48

contrast of like, Peter and

32:50

I think, sometimes you get

32:53

in the struggle of like, rationalizing

32:55

why she would be attracted to

32:57

him, but I think John Taylor

32:59

Thomas is so pretty that you think, oh,

33:01

okay, well, that's a thing that like,

33:03

that's a tie that binds for sure,

33:05

regardless of the emotional stuff going on. So

33:07

I like, yeah, plus you're gonna have a

33:09

little tenderness because of the nostalgia

33:12

of it all. Of course, so excited

33:14

to see him. Yeah, yeah, that's good.

33:16

Okay, so I've got organizing principle I

33:18

have is I want someone with guile, with

33:20

charm. with charisma, I want him very

33:22

attuned to his emotions. So in

33:24

contrast to Gary from Teen Mom,

33:26

you know, I want someone who

33:28

is not going to be physically

33:30

appealing, who's not going to be

33:32

physically provocative, not going to be

33:35

imposing, but is going to be

33:37

incredibly attuned to the emotional energy

33:39

of everyone around him. And I think

33:41

there should also be... very little confusion

33:43

about his ill suitedness for the

33:45

games. In the story in the

33:47

movie, they really try to like,

33:49

as Jamie alluded to, like he

33:51

throws a kettle bell and everyone's

33:53

like, oh snap, bread boys got moves

33:55

or whatever. And it's like, okay, clearly

33:57

he doesn't, we know that. So I.

34:00

I want to reinforce that this is not

34:02

a physical threat in the Hunger Games with

34:04

this cast. Okay. All right. I do want

34:06

the charisma and the guile and I want

34:08

the emotional intuitiveness, but I want no physical

34:10

threat. So I've got three options. I feel

34:12

really good about the three of these. They

34:14

kind of give you different different styles. I've

34:16

got, and this is pre-cancellation.

34:18

So I'm just, I'm putting that out there. Okay. Fair.

34:20

Just for topicality and consideration and

34:22

consideration. This would, if it's in the two

34:24

thousands, this guy's getting a call. This guy's

34:27

getting a call. This guy's getting a call.

34:29

And it's Shila Buff. Okay. Shila Buff. Okay. He's

34:31

getting called. I actually think that's a great tweet

34:33

because you're right. No one thinks. Oh, listen, I

34:35

always think of him and my favorite Shila Buff

34:37

film, which no one else thinks about, which is

34:39

that, that one with Michelle Monaghan. I love that

34:41

one. What's it called? With Michelle Monaghan. We're

34:43

Eaglei. Eagle. Oh, that's a good movie. I

34:45

love Eagle. But listen, no one's looking. The

34:48

police aren't. The police aren't looking. The police

34:50

aren't looking. The police aren't looking. The police

34:52

aren't looking. The police aren't looking. The police

34:54

aren't looking. The police aren't looking. they're not

34:56

looking at him going this guy's brilliant

34:58

they're not doing any of that they're just

35:00

like guy just a guy just a guy he's just

35:03

a guy he's just a guy who's driven by

35:05

what his family and his home and that

35:07

is what that's what that's what that is perfect

35:09

you could argue that's what that's what

35:11

that's what that is perfect you could

35:13

argue that's what Charlotte Buff was doing

35:15

in Transformers he was doing in Transformers

35:17

Aberdeen maybe of like fixing cars because

35:19

she wasn't mechanic in that movie I

35:21

don't if you know that matches what

35:23

we're looking for we're looking for These other

35:26

two I feel like they're really kind of

35:28

close to center on what we're looking for.

35:30

I've got Elijah Wood. If he's not doing

35:32

Lord of the Rings, is Elijah Wood

35:34

a good pita? Or my personal favorite,

35:36

I've got Joseph Gordon Leavitt. Joseph

35:38

Gordon Leavitt. There it is. Kind of

35:41

sweet, very charming, very charismatic,

35:43

but he's not going to like thrushwood

35:45

smash him like with a little kick.

35:47

No listen and I think you've this

35:49

selection is excellent obviously I think we have

35:52

to go all the way through the movies

35:54

and go what happens when this one is

35:56

tortured and then he tries to kill Natalie

35:58

Portman yeah who is right person for

36:01

that. And Gary from team, I

36:03

was like, hey, hold up home,

36:05

dog. We don't do that. You want

36:07

to be LTA? I'm gonna make you

36:10

a B. L. T. A. I need

36:12

you. Calm your booter down. Okay. Calm

36:14

your beater down. Is that new

36:16

merch? Calm your beater down. Calm

36:18

your beater down. Oh, man. I'm

36:20

going to say I think I'm

36:23

circling back to Shila buff. She

36:25

feels like he could Lose it

36:27

and I know Elijah Wood can't I watched

36:29

the final Lord of the Rings and

36:31

he's not a good actor in that Okay,

36:33

he doesn't handle stress the ring Yeah,

36:35

it wasn't his fault was the ring man

36:38

I'd rather have Sean Aston then I'd

36:40

rather have Sean Aston than I would

36:42

want to have Elijah Wood Gosh Sean

36:44

Aston was a little younger. He would

36:46

work here. He would definitely work as

36:49

I'm definitely gonna think I think a

36:51

trial above with a close runner-up has

36:53

to get kicked off set Yeah because

36:55

it's coming. Or he just doesn't

36:57

show up because he's watching all

37:00

of his movies in order at

37:02

a local regal theater. Normal thing

37:04

to do. Yeah, it's Joseph Gordon

37:06

Levitt. Yeah, the Shire would do

37:08

really well during the, I'm a

37:10

mutt and I'm here to kill

37:12

you. Intensity, Joseph Gord level would

37:14

do better earlier when he's like

37:17

friendly bread guy. You know, can we...

37:19

have one be in the first two babies

37:21

and then recast. And he could just be

37:23

like, hey, they changed my face too. They

37:25

gave me a lot of plastic surgery and I'm

37:27

very angry now. Listen, we know from Tigris,

37:29

we know from Tigris that that can

37:31

happen. We just fixed it. Great job, Jamie.

37:34

That's a great call. Thank you for that.

37:36

Okay, let's go to Finnic O Dare, who

37:38

you got Jamie. Now I talk about

37:40

in the collection almost ad nauseam

37:42

how much I love Finnic the

37:44

character and Finnic in the movies.

37:46

I love Sam Claflin. I have

37:48

no interest in Annie whatsoever from

37:51

beginning to end. I don't care about

37:53

her at all. But Finnic is obviously

37:55

his thing is I can make

37:57

anyone want to be with me. Yes.

38:00

chart, right? He is a favorite

38:02

among people. And sometimes you can't

38:04

explain why. You're just like, well,

38:06

he's got them sugar cubes. I

38:08

don't know what to tell you.

38:10

Like, he's just very relaxed. He's

38:12

always relaxed. Even when he's just

38:15

like, even when Annie is dead or dying.

38:17

Yeah, because she's 70 years old and

38:19

he's only 20, which is, it's

38:21

weird. No, that's magnet. That's magnet.

38:24

No, Annie is also very much

38:26

too old for Finnicoder. I will

38:28

die on that hill. She's a

38:30

50-year-old woman and they're supposed to

38:33

act like they're in love. It's absurd.

38:35

How dare you? How dare you? Okay,

38:37

so my choice. I actually have two

38:39

choices and I'm gonna let you both

38:41

pick from my two choices. There's what

38:43

the heart wants for a 90s teen

38:46

rock and a Finnic. It's Jordan

38:48

Catalano from my soul life. Oh!

38:50

Because remember he's part Italian, he loves

38:52

his car, he can get you a

38:55

fake ID, he smokes Siggs, he

38:57

leans so good, he leans so good,

38:59

he puts Vizine in his eyes and you're

39:01

not sure why, but you just, ah, listen,

39:03

he threw a chair at his dad. There's

39:06

something about like he can get

39:08

very upset very quickly. But then

39:10

my second choice, because I'm also

39:12

thinking of an effortless charm,

39:14

you're not going to have

39:17

the broodiness. But I think

39:19

you're going to have a

39:21

more interesting character is Dimitri

39:23

from the movie Anastasia. Oh my

39:25

God. This is too hard. I really hate

39:27

that pig Jamie. I hate it so much.

39:29

Everybody who loves Anastasia.

39:32

No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. This is

39:34

my fault. This is my fault. In

39:36

that moment, I thought you were talking

39:38

about the Russian kid from an

39:40

Nora. Like the... I was so confused.

39:42

No, I'll do it. It's Dimitri. the

39:44

street rat but from Russia who is

39:46

but he's not from Russia he's the

39:48

voice of John Cusack who didn't even

39:51

try an accent he was like I'm

39:53

an American in Europe it doesn't

39:55

matter but Dimitri for a lot

39:57

of sexual awakenings Dimitri was it

39:59

for a lot of people, because

40:02

they were like, oh, I am into him,

40:04

like a guy that will fight for

40:06

me. Aaron, would you like to

40:08

choose between Jordan Catalano and

40:10

Dimitri? Oh, this is so

40:13

hard. And as a reminder,

40:15

Dimitri will be animated.

40:17

Right. Dimitri is not

40:19

from Anora. No, Dimitri

40:21

has perfect hair, like,

40:23

Devonsawa. perfect hair. Yes. But Jordan

40:25

Catalano is also perfect. Are we

40:27

are we talking Jared Leto or

40:29

are we talking Jordan Catalano? Jordan

40:31

Catalano. We're separating the art and artists.

40:34

Then we're talking then it has to

40:36

be Jordan Catalano. Like I agree. I

40:38

think that's the right choice. So Jordan

40:40

Catalano will have sexual chemistry with Mulan

40:42

and it will make sense. Any interest

40:44

in like Aladdin has finico like like

40:47

the animated Aladdin. That's not bad. Finico

40:49

dear? No. I don't like him because

40:51

he's too tiny because he's too tiny.

40:53

He's an actual street rat. He's too

40:55

tiny. I need a guy that's

40:58

got like a broad shoulder. Remember,

41:00

do you want to, I know

41:02

that we got Aladdin in a

41:04

outfit kind of like Finnic wears

41:07

in the. Yeah, that's true. We do

41:09

get that reunion quarter quail

41:11

or whatever. Yeah. I get that

41:13

he looks like that, but he's too,

41:16

I need him to be like. I

41:18

know a lot about horses, and I

41:20

just feel like Aladdin doesn't know a

41:22

lot about horses. No, he doesn't. He does

41:24

not presume. Campbell's maybe, but not horses for

41:26

sure. Is there anyone in Anora that you

41:29

would consider as Finnic? So I can save

41:31

that. Maybe the Russian guy who's with her

41:33

the whole time, and she hates, but ends

41:35

up having sex with in a car at

41:37

the end of the movie, in the

41:39

most inexplicable ending that I

41:41

still don't understand, even though

41:43

everyone's like, it's important. It's important. a character

41:46

in a movie, you have to explain that character's

41:48

motivations in your thank-you speech if it didn't make

41:50

sense when you watch the film, which is the

41:52

case of anora. It's like, why are you doing

41:54

this? What's going on? I agree. Man, I'm so

41:56

mad. I thought you picked the kid from ano, I was like,

41:58

what are you doing? You're saying... Hey man, okay,

42:01

Finnic O'Dare, I've got, my

42:03

organizing principle is kind of

42:05

jockish, but with the heart

42:07

of gold, but a balance of

42:09

charisma and some apparent sadness,

42:12

okay, which is tough. The more I thought

42:14

about this, because I've been on the record

42:16

and we talk about it in the collection,

42:18

I don't like Sam Claflin, I don't like

42:21

him for Finnic, but it's not the easiest

42:23

thing in the world to nail that they

42:25

have to be. Very charismatic and endearing and

42:28

lovable, but there's also a lot of pain

42:30

there that they have to access And now

42:32

that you've brought up the sugar cubes again

42:34

I'm kind of mad because in the second

42:37

movie they act like he's always gonna have

42:39

sugar cubes Do we ever see him with

42:41

sugar cubes again? I don't know But it feels

42:43

like me like if you look at my purse right

42:45

now I've got cheeses. I got you need a bag

42:47

of cheeseses It's like Chekhov's sugar cube or

42:49

cheese it. If you introduce the character who's

42:52

giving me sugar cubes or cheese it's, I

42:54

expect at the bitter end, the last thing

42:56

they do before they die and sacrifice themselves

42:58

is to give me a cheese it. Well,

43:00

look, how cute would have been if he

43:03

had had them sugar cubes when them lizards

43:05

ate his fence? Yep. Yep. And he's regretting

43:07

only having a trident and not a

43:09

gun to fight a war. I don't

43:12

know. Some questions about that. So I've

43:14

got three candidates. I don't even know

43:16

if it's three. It might be two.

43:18

This guy, I'm going to put him

43:20

in here because he fits the bill

43:22

and he works if you want a

43:24

weirder finic. It's Jake Jillenhall. If you

43:27

want a weirder, Hall. If you

43:29

want a weirder, kind of a

43:31

kooky, I don't know if this guy's

43:33

problematic or not. Jake Jillenhall is a

43:35

great pick for that guy. No, he's

43:38

a great pick. And I'm trying to

43:40

think like, which chick, John, am I

43:42

getting bubble boy? Am I getting Donnie

43:44

Darko? Is that Donnie Darko? You're

43:46

getting like a more extroverted Donnie

43:48

Darko. Okay, and I don't know

43:51

that anybody wants that, but it's an

43:53

option. No, I like that one. The

43:55

people's choice. This could be interesting.

43:57

You're going to lose a sense of. of

44:00

competency, for lack of a better term,

44:02

but you're gonna get a lot of

44:04

looks and you're gonna get a lot

44:07

of charisma and that's Paul Walker. Paul

44:09

Walker is Finnico Deere. I don't trust

44:11

him to give me any tips on

44:13

my wordle, but he's gonna be a fun

44:15

hang and I'll take a sure and cute

44:18

if he has one. Listen, but he'll

44:20

be great when you need him to say

44:22

one line. Like, Annie asked, like, and

44:24

you won't know why, but you'll be

44:26

like, Paul Walker's pretty. him cruising the

44:28

jungle with that old lady on his back

44:30

but why is this sexy but it is

44:32

listen and I know we're not casting the old

44:34

lady but what if the old lady is Vin

44:36

diesel I love it that's good I had the

44:38

titanic lady the woman who throws like a billion

44:41

dollar ring at the in the ocean oh yeah

44:43

she's the right one but I like the

44:45

idea of it being CGI and it's just

44:47

Vin diesel's face on the woman from ditatics

44:49

that's good I love it I love it I love it

44:51

but the one I think I think I like the most

44:53

And there's a pretty obvious case, especially

44:56

if you're looking early 2000s. I

44:58

think Josh Hartnett fits the bill.

45:00

He's got the charisma. It's a

45:02

quiet charisma. He's got the broodiness

45:04

so he can access that you're

45:06

talking like Pearl Harbor era, you

45:08

know, just a looker. He's lanky.

45:10

So I believe that he won

45:12

with a trident even though that

45:14

makes no sense whatsoever. And I

45:16

believe people at the Capitol are

45:18

telling him the secrets in exchange

45:20

for for... you know, but stuff

45:22

or whatever it was. So Josh

45:24

Hartnett. Is that Pearl Harbor?

45:26

Josh Hartnett? Hartnett? Yeah,

45:28

I think, I think same, same era, same,

45:30

a guy, I mean, he walks in

45:32

Pearl Harbor. That's the iconic, that's

45:35

the iconic, Josh Hartnett. You're going

45:37

to tell me a guy's going

45:39

to walk in the Pearl Harbor.

45:42

That's the iconic, that's the

45:44

iconic, Josh Hartnett. That's the

45:46

iconic, Josh Hartnett. That's the

45:49

iconic, Oh, 100%. Okay, so

45:51

to recap, you have

45:54

Katniss Everdine played by

45:56

Moulin. Animated, Moulin. You

45:58

have Gail. played as

46:00

Morse Chestnut. You have Peter

46:03

played as Jonathan Taylor Thomas.

46:05

Yes. And you have Finnic

46:07

played as, not Dimitri,

46:09

the other guy. Jordan

46:11

Catalano from my. Jordan

46:13

Calano. Jordan Calano, thank

46:16

you. I have Katniss Everdeen, portrayed

46:18

by Natalie Portman. I have Gary

46:20

from Teen Mom as Gail. I

46:23

have a combo Shile Above Joseph

46:25

Gordon Leavitt as Pita and I

46:28

have Josh Hartnett as Finnic O'Dear.

46:30

I feel good about our cast.

46:32

That's a great cast. That's a great

46:35

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46:37

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let's move to adult slash authority

48:46

figures. We've got a handful of

48:49

options here, Jamie, so you kind

48:51

of pick anyone on the board

48:53

you want to go with. Okay,

48:55

I'm actually going to start with

48:57

Plutarch. Plutarch. We know Plutarch heavensby,

49:00

who's played in the movies in

49:02

his last film role, Philip Seymour

49:04

Hoffman, but he's a man. He's

49:06

got modism and ambitions, but

49:08

they're mysterious. You're not always sure.

49:11

You're like, am I drawn to

49:13

him? Right? He's really smart, but

49:15

is he using that intelligence for

49:17

evil? Yes. But do you know

49:20

fully? Or whatever his motives. Now,

49:22

who I'm going to recommend for

49:24

this role? Their motives are

49:26

clear, but I do believe in a

49:29

redemption arc. I do think that later,

49:31

and you brought up the lady from

49:33

Titanic, can I interest you in a

49:36

plutark played by Cal Hockley from

49:38

Titanic? Here's the thing Billy Zane

49:40

is one of those actors who

49:42

convinces you that like I am

49:45

into you are you are a red flag

49:47

man like you're a red flag

49:49

man and I can't know for

49:51

sure but I am I'm like

49:53

you're so you're so articulate and you

49:55

say things in a way in a

49:57

deeper voice that feels you're not right

50:00

He's one of those guys where

50:02

you're like, you're obviously a villain,

50:04

where's the line for me? What

50:06

am I willing to let you

50:08

get away with? And then what's

50:10

the point of no return? Yeah,

50:12

it's really just the tone of

50:14

his voice. And listen, he's literally

50:16

someone says, he looks too good

50:18

to be a good guy. And

50:21

that's not the case for Philip

50:23

Seymour Hoffman, but I do

50:25

think there is an equitable charm

50:27

about both of them. And it's

50:29

confusing is why his hair

50:31

looks that way. So yes.

50:33

So I am choosing, I'm

50:35

choosing CalHockley for my 90s

50:38

teen romp. Plus, you know,

50:40

Moulin is going to be like,

50:42

hmm, I am drawn to you and

50:44

I do want to dance with

50:46

you with my weird hair and

50:48

my overdone makeup in

50:50

this capital lawn. But also,

50:53

can you be trusted? And

50:55

in reality, we'll never

50:57

know. The importance of that part

50:59

is to be reliably believable in both

51:01

worlds of you are gamesmaker and

51:03

you are a bad guy and just

51:05

a member of this capital, but you

51:07

also once the twist happens and he's

51:10

like part of the rebel underground, that also

51:12

has to be believable. So you're

51:14

not like, wait, where's this coming

51:16

from? So Cal Hawley would. he

51:18

would certainly test that. Plus, people

51:20

don't remember that Plutarch, even after coming

51:22

out as an ally, still did not

51:24

give an F about anyone who had

51:26

died in the quarterquiles or in the

51:28

war. He did not hear about people

51:30

who had died. So that feels very

51:32

compelling. So Meg's making a revolution omelet,

51:35

essentially. It's not a direct quote from

51:37

the book, but it feels like it

51:39

was. You know, I didn't go through

51:41

totality casting Plutarch, but I had,

51:43

I'll give you the three I landed

51:45

on. Michael Pena. Michael Pena. Don Cheetel

51:48

or LaVar Burton. I just I like a LaVar

51:50

Burton in there. Oh, it's a LaVar Burton. No, that's

51:52

the choice. Yeah, that's the choice. Because if he's in

51:54

the war, if he's in the room, he's writing a

51:56

speech because he would be right in the speeches. I'd

51:58

be like, well, I got. to read what

52:00

this guy's doing. He's reading Rainbow,

52:02

you know. I'm going to go

52:05

snow. I want to pass snow.

52:07

And to be clear, we talk

52:09

about this in the collection, I

52:11

think Donald Sutherland is excellent. He's

52:13

an excellent snow. No notes on

52:15

that. If we're doing this in

52:17

the 90s, I'm trying to think

52:19

who do I want here. I

52:21

have a couple like off the

52:23

grid choices. First up, well, the

52:25

organizing principle I process with is

52:27

I want authority. definitive authority. I

52:29

also want mystery. Like I don't

52:31

exactly have a handle on what

52:33

this guy's deal is. What's what

52:35

the roses? Is it bad that

52:38

he's always coughing blood into his

52:40

hanky or is that just like

52:42

a cool party trick? I just

52:44

don't know what's going on here.

52:46

So what parties are you going

52:48

to? I don't know man. I

52:50

just like the capital's weird. It's

52:52

a weird place. Tell me you

52:54

don't go to parties without telling

52:56

me you don't go to parties.

52:58

That's no. Okay. He's talking, his

53:00

voice is so rich in velvety,

53:02

I'm like, you're telling me you

53:04

want to like, genocide a bunch

53:06

of people, and I don't want

53:08

to, but you make me kind

53:11

of want to the way you

53:13

sound. So I think that's an

53:15

option. This is kind of, this

53:17

one's nullified a little bit with

53:19

his inclusion in dune, but I

53:21

think Christopher Walken could have been

53:23

an interesting choice. Okay. I'm just

53:25

like, I don't know. what's going

53:27

on and the act I don't

53:29

I wish I could do a

53:31

Chris walk in like your fighters

53:33

the Machi Jay it's annoying it's

53:35

not good it would be fun

53:37

just to watch him like dance

53:39

around a little bit and then

53:41

there's a bit of wild car

53:43

one I don't know how much

53:46

I believe in it but I

53:48

kind of like the vibe of

53:50

like very put together very attractive

53:52

very attractive very authoritative but also

53:54

very smooth and charming What if

53:56

it was just a little salt

53:58

and peppery George Clooney? Little salt

54:00

and pepper George Clooney in there?

54:02

What do you think about that?

54:04

Too attractive? Is he too attractive?

54:06

I think he might be too.

54:08

attractive but because what I've learned

54:10

is through growing up as an

54:12

adult that presidents are never hot.

54:14

They're not they're never hot and

54:16

there's something else at play. And

54:19

so I to me it feels

54:21

like he needs because he has

54:23

to have been with little Rachel

54:25

Ziegler who can sing and So

54:27

I don't know that he's old

54:29

enough. Like I need him a

54:31

little older. But yes, if that's

54:33

fair, that's totally fair. But listen,

54:35

I think your I think your

54:37

first choice was the best choice.

54:39

I think it's an Antonio and

54:41

Honduras. No, he's kind of hot

54:43

too. No, he is hot, but

54:45

like you think about puss and

54:47

boots. Yeah, really hit that really

54:49

hit that first part of that.

54:52

Wait, can I interest you in

54:54

a pussim boots as snow? Yeah.

54:56

Where he's like, listen here, you

54:58

know, he's just, I don't know.

55:00

He can bring the menace if

55:02

he really wants to. And in

55:04

terms of hot presence, you clearly

55:06

have not been watching Paradise, where

55:08

Cal, Wildcat Cal, James Marsden, is

55:10

the president of the underground. No,

55:12

that's different. You're exactly right. I

55:14

like that. I think the heart

55:16

wants Chris Walken, but I'll go

55:18

with Antonio Bandaris. I think that's

55:20

a good man. Colonel Jessup from

55:22

a few good men. Yeah, he

55:25

ordered the code red. I don't

55:27

know what to tell you. That's

55:29

a great choice. And he did

55:31

not care. And he's not a

55:33

lot of like charm or nuance

55:35

to Colonel Jessup. No. But he'd

55:37

run a tight ship. That's why

55:39

I also had a runner up

55:41

if Scarf from Lion King animated.

55:43

Oh, yeah. and that the capital

55:45

is mostly animated. There's just a

55:47

few live-action people. That would also

55:49

solve the issue of the Lion

55:51

King universe, of like, what did

55:53

SCAR get up to in between

55:55

Lion King 2, when he does

55:58

like, what did you say to

56:00

my brother? like that whole song

56:02

and then he falls in love

56:04

but Mufasa like cucks him what

56:06

does he do in the intervening

56:08

years between linking one well he's

56:10

in Pan-em dealing with that whole

56:12

mess he's running he's running the

56:14

executive branch like running it into

56:16

the ground again like he will

56:18

do in the future in Pride

56:20

Rock okay what is what's your

56:22

other like formal choice I'm actually

56:24

gonna do president coin so Julian

56:26

more did a great job with

56:28

sometimes good hair, sometimes bad hair,

56:30

we discuss it in the collection.

56:33

What we know is she's the

56:35

leader of the Second Rebellion, she

56:37

appears to be calm and collected,

56:39

but she is also ruthless and

56:41

you realize she is hotwire, like

56:43

you don't know. Is that a

56:45

hotwire thing? Livewire. Why not? She's

56:47

a livewire. Adele, you can't cough

56:49

in your hanky, bloody hankies at

56:51

parties anymore. So I'm just learning

56:53

all the things that are in

56:55

her eyes. That's fair. And but

56:57

she is charismatic. And she's a

56:59

very subtle manipulator. But she can

57:01

have a blowup where she's like,

57:03

no. This is treason. Hungary Ames

57:06

is a musical across the board

57:08

that's why everybody has to be

57:10

able to sing only during the

57:12

coin scenes like when she shows

57:14

up she's only singing her part

57:16

every time she opens a meeting

57:18

she's like are you are you

57:20

coming to that tree that's cat

57:22

is a song she's no it

57:24

doesn't matter she sings it's everybody's

57:26

song it's everybody's song it's everybody's

57:28

song it's everybody's song it's like

57:30

It's catness! Catness! You know? Or

57:32

no, Plutarch. She's yelling at Plutarch

57:34

or Haymage all the time. She

57:36

yelling at all of them. She

57:39

doesn't feel like Whitney. Whitney used

57:41

to just be like, Sissy! Like

57:43

it all feels like it pets.

57:45

And maybe District 13, it's not

57:47

that they have all the weapons,

57:49

like they have all the cocaine.

57:51

And like that's all the cocaine

57:53

and listen she will also looks

57:55

good in a sick bob She's

57:57

good in a sick bob would

57:59

you could I interest you in

58:01

a Colonel Boggs who's her guy

58:03

who goes and gets people He's

58:05

a colonel, but he's just the

58:07

pickup guy. That's played by Kevin

58:09

Costner from the bodyguard. Yes, we're

58:12

doing it and they're broning. They're

58:14

broning or yeah, well, they're friends.

58:16

They're friends. They're friends having sex.

58:18

It's like a not official. Friends

58:20

are benefits. Yeah, well, that's different.

58:22

I do really like your massively

58:24

budgeted movie where all of Katniss's

58:26

scenes are animated and all of

58:28

coin scenes are musical. I think

58:30

that's I would like love to

58:32

watch that as a matter of.

58:34

When you love it, if you're

58:36

watching a franchise that is about

58:38

teens dying and oppression, and then

58:40

suddenly what appears to be like,

58:42

hey, we're underground. District 13, you

58:45

know what we do here, we

58:47

see. That would be amazing. It

58:49

would be so good. It would

58:51

be so good. I'm just not

58:53

realizing, I forgot to put Bing

58:55

Bong in any of these. Well,

58:57

he's not at 2000s, so I'm

58:59

okay, I'm vindicated. Yeah, you're right.

59:01

I was really mourning that. I'm

59:03

gonna go Hamich. I'm gonna I'm

59:05

gonna cast recast homage in our

59:07

collection. I talked about my feelings

59:09

on Woody Harrison as homage We'll

59:11

spoil him, but it didn't like

59:13

it But for the organizing principle

59:15

for homage Finding the right person

59:17

here is difficult because I think

59:20

you need You need a little

59:22

weird. You need a little haunted,

59:24

but there needs to be a

59:26

shell of competency or capability. Otherwise

59:28

he wouldn't have lasted this long

59:30

and he wouldn't have won his

59:32

version of Hunger Games. So this

59:34

is, you know, an alcoholic who

59:36

survived something traumatic. And not only

59:38

that, every single year he has

59:40

to be reminded of that because

59:42

I think he is the only

59:44

one besides Cadmus who won the

59:46

Hunger Games for District 12. So

59:48

he is sentenced to a... where

59:50

he's watching children getting murdered under

59:53

his mentorship in tutelage, which is

59:55

not not cool. So I need

59:57

a weirdo, okay? I don't want

59:59

someone who's like, I don't want

1:00:01

like Josh Dumel, okay? I need,

1:00:03

I need dirtier, I need weirder,

1:00:05

okay? I need someone where you

1:00:07

look at him, you're like, that

1:00:09

guy has seen some stuff. So

1:00:11

I wanna go. I've got like

1:00:13

a runner up, I'll tell you

1:00:15

after, but the one I think

1:00:17

I've landed I've landed on. How

1:00:19

am I am adding in a

1:00:21

twist of current? but like he

1:00:23

has like a vibe of like

1:00:26

a vibe of like I can

1:00:28

accomplish things if I focus but

1:00:30

I I do not focus and

1:00:32

I mean that for actor Nicholas

1:00:34

Cage and every role he's ever

1:00:36

played. Yes 100% like I'm underestimated

1:00:38

I'm underestimated but I also I

1:00:40

cause that because I don't overperform.

1:00:42

And so I that's why I

1:00:44

chose him. No I think it's

1:00:46

great because it's someone who like

1:00:48

channels weirdness in like leaving Las

1:00:50

Vegas or like a raising Arizona.

1:00:52

you know, that's very natural, but

1:00:54

then there's also he thinks he

1:00:56

can still declaration of independence and

1:00:59

natural treasure. So you need both,

1:01:01

both ends of that spectrum in

1:01:03

the Hunger Games, and I think

1:01:05

he'd be really good. I also

1:01:07

had, if you wanted like a

1:01:09

grumpy, surly kind of over it,

1:01:11

checked out damage, I had a

1:01:13

Billy Bob Thornton in the early

1:01:15

2000s. That's also good. That's also

1:01:17

a good one. Just like drinking

1:01:19

a cold one. Like long piece

1:01:21

of ash on a cigarette, you

1:01:23

know trying to tell Pita like

1:01:25

what he's got to do wearing

1:01:27

a vial of blood of his

1:01:29

lover Yeah, on his neck. It's

1:01:32

a cat's a trend No, that's

1:01:34

a great choice. My runner-up for

1:01:36

Haymetch was specifically from 1997's Goodwill

1:01:38

Hunting, Robin Williams. Oh, okay. If

1:01:40

he had not become a therapist

1:01:42

and he had drowned in his

1:01:44

grief. Yeah, he would bring a

1:01:46

lot of energy to the role.

1:01:48

But again, that's why I'm saying

1:01:50

specifically, Goodwill Hunting, that version of

1:01:52

him, because it's more subdued. But

1:01:54

it definitely is. I think Nicholas

1:01:56

Cage is the right choice. That's,

1:01:58

I think that's hilarious. We've both

1:02:00

landed on the cage. I know,

1:02:02

that's so good. Okay, let's do,

1:02:04

let's move to Wild Card. Jamie,

1:02:07

did you have any other, it's

1:02:09

like open the board up, no

1:02:11

matter how big, how small, any

1:02:13

other characters that you're like, I

1:02:15

wanted to recast. So as we

1:02:17

re-watch these films, and you'll hear

1:02:19

which films I had not seen

1:02:21

and I thought I had seen

1:02:23

when we did the collection, but

1:02:25

I came away from going, you

1:02:27

know who I love? Joanna Mason.

1:02:29

I wrote hard for Joanna Mason.

1:02:31

From the moment she took off

1:02:33

all her clothes in that elevator,

1:02:35

so she shaved her head, all

1:02:37

the things. I felt like she

1:02:40

was the potential great friend. But

1:02:42

here's the thing about Joanna. Joanna

1:02:44

is, she's got a sharp wit,

1:02:46

she's sarcasticastic, sarcasticastic. She is smart,

1:02:48

but she's burdened by all the

1:02:50

trauma that is around her and

1:02:52

surrounds her. And to me, the

1:02:54

perfect person for my 90s teen

1:02:56

rock to play Joanna is Daria

1:02:58

Morgendorfer from Daria. Oh yeah. Again,

1:03:00

animated Daria. Yeah. So when she

1:03:02

gets nude in the elevator, animated.

1:03:04

So it's vague. Her Pikachu will

1:03:06

be vague. Her babies will be

1:03:08

vague. Her babies will be vague.

1:03:10

Her boobies will be vague. Her

1:03:13

boobies will be vague. Her boobies

1:03:15

will be vague. Her boobies will

1:03:17

be vague. Her boobies will be

1:03:19

vague. They'll just sit here thinking

1:03:21

of like Gary from teen mom

1:03:23

in the elevator with them being

1:03:25

like what is happening But he's

1:03:27

not in that scene. So that

1:03:29

doesn't count. That's my bad. Yeah

1:03:31

Daria. Okay. There's a there's a

1:03:33

little bit of extra version you

1:03:35

lose it with the Daria choice.

1:03:37

I will tell you that that's

1:03:39

fair it's not no no no

1:03:41

casting is perfect obviously we learn

1:03:43

that from the actual Hunger Games

1:03:46

movies where they made some mistakes

1:03:48

but I like Daria because it's

1:03:50

like she's she's brooding and maybe

1:03:52

we just didn't get dark we

1:03:54

didn't get enough anger from Daria

1:03:56

really yeah and so for me

1:03:58

this is an opportunity for Daria

1:04:00

to spread her wings and show

1:04:02

that she can do other things

1:04:04

plus I like the idea that

1:04:06

Jonathan Taylor Thomas is like am

1:04:08

I attracted to Daria and you

1:04:10

would be he would be Yeah,

1:04:12

she definitely would bring a lot

1:04:14

of hostility like a inherent hostility

1:04:16

to allyship within the game. So

1:04:19

I think that could definitely work.

1:04:21

Aaron, I know like, because obviously

1:04:23

you said to watch the movies

1:04:25

and everything, we didn't talk in

1:04:27

terms of the collection, but were

1:04:29

there any, you know, wild card

1:04:31

characters that captivated you that you

1:04:33

would want to recast? What if

1:04:35

I have a couple of Hey

1:04:37

Mitch suggestions? Let's go. What if

1:04:39

I said Adam Sandler for Hey,

1:04:41

Mitch? Like, I'm listening. Like, like,

1:04:43

like, it'd be a different vibe

1:04:45

a little bit, but like, sloppy,

1:04:47

like, kind of using humor as

1:04:49

a shield, or, or, Jack Black.

1:04:52

Absolutely not. Why not? Why not?

1:04:54

Listen, one, because your first choice

1:04:56

was so excellent. You nailed it.

1:04:58

I would even pick Adam Sandler

1:05:00

from this year's Oscars. I would

1:05:02

too. I would too. That's exactly

1:05:04

who it should be. The problem

1:05:06

with Jack Black is, to me,

1:05:08

he doesn't feel tortured at all.

1:05:10

He's just that character in The

1:05:12

Holiday all the time. Like that's

1:05:14

just who he is all the

1:05:16

time. Now you could talk me

1:05:18

into Jack Black a Sinner. You

1:05:20

know, oh, oh, that would be

1:05:22

good. That would be or let

1:05:24

me throw this at you. Let

1:05:27

me yes, and this I love

1:05:29

Adam Sandler. Let's make Adam Sandler

1:05:31

Senna and his style is like

1:05:33

gym shorts and very make shirts.

1:05:35

I like that. And he's like,

1:05:37

you're the girl on fire. And

1:05:39

then we make Kevin James Hamich

1:05:41

or Sina. I just want Kevin

1:05:43

James and Gerventine Mom involved in

1:05:45

this. It is a deal breaker

1:05:47

for me. They might hit it

1:05:49

off and be really good friends.

1:05:51

What about Zat Galvanakis from between

1:05:53

two ferns? Like that specific version

1:05:55

of him. as Caesar. Is that

1:05:57

what you mean? Oh, maybe as

1:06:00

Whitman. Yeah, no, I actually love

1:06:02

that. Caesar is actually who I

1:06:04

recast and Zach made my short

1:06:06

list, but I did ultimately land

1:06:08

on double v, just glanned up,

1:06:10

you know, having a dynamite time.

1:06:12

Maybe his sidekick, because we do

1:06:14

get like the Toby Jones sidekick

1:06:16

in the first couple movies for

1:06:18

Caesar. Maybe it's Owen Wilson, you

1:06:20

know, we're channeling some wedding crash

1:06:22

or stuff. We get them on

1:06:24

the ground in the games, in

1:06:26

the games, like it's actually, like,

1:06:28

like game day, like game day.

1:06:30

doing the recap from the grounds

1:06:33

of the Hunger Games. So they're

1:06:35

like, you know, running through with

1:06:37

the mobile mics and anything. I

1:06:39

think that could be kind of.

1:06:41

I actually love that. And I

1:06:43

like that Owen Wilson is the

1:06:45

sidekick that disappears and you never

1:06:47

see again. And you're not sad

1:06:49

about it. No one's sad when

1:06:51

they're like, where did no one

1:06:53

has ever said, where did Owen

1:06:55

go? No, no one said that.

1:06:57

Oh, like they're just like, I

1:06:59

don't, it doesn't matter, it, it

1:07:01

doesn't matter. That's exactly right. That's

1:07:03

exactly right. That's exactly right. That's

1:07:06

exactly right. That's exactly right. That's

1:07:08

exactly right. That's exactly right. Right.

1:07:10

Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.

1:07:12

Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.

1:07:14

Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.

1:07:16

Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.

1:07:18

Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.

1:07:20

Right. Right. Right. I feel really

1:07:22

good about her choices. I think

1:07:24

these are two really good movies.

1:07:26

Listen, I, look, I hope that

1:07:28

everyone will support our Kickstarter when

1:07:30

we try to make these films.

1:07:32

Yeah. Because I don't need Jordan

1:07:34

Cattleado. I got 10 episodes of

1:07:36

him. I can recreate him with

1:07:39

AI, right? Yeah. Everybody's pro that,

1:07:41

right? Yeah. And so, yeah, these.

1:07:43

And if we need momentum, I

1:07:45

feel pretty confident that we can

1:07:47

go ahead and say. Gary from

1:07:49

teen moms attached. He's he's committed

1:07:51

to being this. Haven't spoken with

1:07:53

him yet, but Aaron, will you

1:07:55

comment on that BTLA post? I'm

1:07:57

going to do it. I'm going

1:07:59

to slide into his D.M. Okay,

1:08:01

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Move and V moved. Okay, my

1:09:30

red light this week is the

1:09:32

headline that I saw on my

1:09:34

local news station that said the

1:09:36

quote was 100 million brace for

1:09:38

severe weather outbreak as tornadoes hurricane

1:09:40

force winds threaten weekend weather. Now

1:09:42

we're recording. this early because Knox

1:09:44

is escaping the tornado weather on

1:09:46

a spring break I unfortunately do

1:09:48

not have children that I can

1:09:50

take anywhere and although I did

1:09:53

think is this a time to

1:09:55

leave because my brother who's a

1:09:57

meteorologist was like you need to

1:09:59

pack that tornado bag so when

1:10:01

you're listening to this you'll know

1:10:03

did it work out can you

1:10:05

imagine if it didn't work out

1:10:07

man Aaron doesn't like when I

1:10:09

do this but like when I

1:10:11

do this what do boys to

1:10:13

an instrumental and under any time

1:10:15

you talk in this episode. That's

1:10:17

right. So listen, so spring is

1:10:19

a problem. Let's be, I like

1:10:21

spring. That's when I'm the most

1:10:23

outdoorsy because I like to eat

1:10:26

on restaurant patios, okay? However, it's

1:10:28

this it's this freaking personality disorder

1:10:30

that Mother Nature has, and I

1:10:32

don't know if it's the springing

1:10:34

forward that turns her into a

1:10:36

chaotic person. Should I wear a

1:10:38

cardigan? Should I wear a jacket,

1:10:40

a poncho, short sleeves, long sleeves,

1:10:42

flats, flats, flats, sandals. Do I

1:10:44

need to wear my hazmat crocks?

1:10:46

Too much rubber. I can't, I

1:10:48

can't wear this much rubber. Listen,

1:10:50

my tornado bag is packed, as

1:10:52

you know, all season long. And

1:10:54

so I got a new bag.

1:10:56

You know what I did? I

1:10:58

bought a bag, a Jansport backpack,

1:11:01

and it's the exact one I

1:11:03

carried in high school. And I,

1:11:05

so new strap for one strap.

1:11:07

Oh, I'm a one strap. One

1:11:09

strap. Cool girl over here. Okay.

1:11:11

Yeah. Well, because that's, listen, you

1:11:13

know how close I could be.

1:11:15

Alpha female in the building. You

1:11:17

know how cool I was in

1:11:19

high school? That was it. Just

1:11:21

that one strap. There was no

1:11:23

other strap. Yeah. Yeah, that was

1:11:25

not cool. So my red light

1:11:27

is Mother Nature and her overreaction.

1:11:29

Yeah. Maybe how we treated her,

1:11:31

but no matter. I don't like

1:11:34

it. So Jamie hates the environment.

1:11:36

Got it. So my red light.

1:11:38

Yeah. Yeah. I'll say about that.

1:11:40

I heard you. You know how

1:11:42

these went? Yeah. They did not

1:11:44

go in our favor. I'll tell

1:11:46

you that. No. So Los Culturistas.

1:11:48

podcast of the year, which is

1:11:50

if you haven't listened, famous people

1:11:52

talking to other famous people with

1:11:54

no structure or edits and tons

1:11:56

of cross-talk and over-talk, and so

1:11:58

that's podcast of the year. I

1:12:00

did not listen, pause there, I

1:12:02

did not realize, they're one of

1:12:04

those podcasts where I love the

1:12:07

clips on TikTok, but when I

1:12:09

listen I'm like, oh, okay, no

1:12:11

editor, got it, got it, got

1:12:13

it, yeah. So, so they won

1:12:15

podcast of the year, okay, okay,

1:12:17

so... That's like they won the

1:12:19

national championship of podcasting. Yes. They

1:12:21

didn't win Best Pop Culture Podcast,

1:12:23

which is not the biggest one.

1:12:25

It's a category. How can you

1:12:27

win, how can you win Best

1:12:29

Director, Best Screenplay, and not win

1:12:31

Best Film? What? It's a great

1:12:33

question. This is like when Ohio

1:12:35

State won the National Championship, but

1:12:37

they didn't win the Big Ten,

1:12:40

like Oregon won the Big Ten,

1:12:42

and the organ in this analogy

1:12:44

is the world's first podcast with

1:12:46

Aaron and Sarah Foster, which, you

1:12:48

know, everyone knows how great that

1:12:50

one is. So shouts to them.

1:12:52

Song Explorer, one for Best Music

1:12:54

Podcast. Oh my God, I do

1:12:56

love Song Explorer. I love Song

1:12:58

Explorer. I love Song Explorer. I

1:13:00

love Song Explorer. I love Song

1:13:02

Explorer. I love Song. It's great.

1:13:04

They do two a month, so

1:13:06

it's a little bit more of

1:13:08

a prolific pace that they were

1:13:10

on. We were actually nominated for

1:13:13

Best Music Podcast, either us or

1:13:15

the New York Times. It's unclear

1:13:17

who it was, but we didn't.

1:13:19

A last, a trademark. Best sports

1:13:21

podcast was New Heights. And because

1:13:23

that's what people listen to that

1:13:25

show for as the sport takes

1:13:27

as I understand it. Oh, yeah.

1:13:29

Nobody's they did not reach those

1:13:31

numbers simply because of a PR

1:13:33

relationship. Not at all. Yeah. And

1:13:35

then I've got two categories of

1:13:37

shows that one or categories that

1:13:39

one at the I heart.com podcast

1:13:41

awards. One's real ones fake. Okay.

1:13:43

Okay. Okay. Best green podcast. And

1:13:46

this is the TED Climate Show

1:13:48

or Best. branded podcast, you can't

1:13:50

make this up from Netflix. Which

1:13:52

one's real? Which one's fake? The

1:13:54

green is fake, and the best

1:13:56

branded is real. Because how can

1:13:58

a podcast be green? Right? Yeah,

1:14:00

and nobody cares about the environment.

1:14:02

I just told you, it's not

1:14:04

worth it. Yeah. Putting energy into

1:14:06

it is useless. She hates old

1:14:08

people, even though she acts like

1:14:10

she does it and the environment.

1:14:12

That's an official platform. And pets?

1:14:14

No, both of those are real.

1:14:16

There's a. There's a green podcast

1:14:18

category. I don't understand why that's

1:14:21

so stupid. And then the best

1:14:23

branded podcast is also real, somehow,

1:14:25

which I'd love to make up

1:14:27

branded podcast. I'd love to be

1:14:29

able to make a, pay us

1:14:31

a lot of money to make

1:14:33

up podcast about. We would make

1:14:35

a, we would get, I would

1:14:37

travel on Southwest. I don't know

1:14:39

about that. I don't know about

1:14:41

that. Yeah, you went now because

1:14:43

they're not even going to pay

1:14:45

for bags. What good are you

1:14:47

Southwest? It's like, is there a

1:14:49

airplane draft and you're trying to

1:14:51

tank for the best pick overall

1:14:54

for pilots or something? I don't

1:14:56

understand what you're doing. Yeah, so

1:14:58

just the iheart.com podcast awards, absurd,

1:15:00

ridiculous. I don't like that. Green

1:15:02

Life for you this week. Okay,

1:15:04

so my Green Light this week,

1:15:06

okay, so do you wish that

1:15:08

Twilight in Hunger Games would have

1:15:10

a baby and it would be

1:15:12

a two-book? fantasy series. Well I

1:15:14

have the two books for you.

1:15:16

This is The Crowns of Niaxia

1:15:18

series. This is by Carissa Broadbent.

1:15:20

She writes Romanticy. This one is,

1:15:22

oh it's so good I've saved

1:15:24

this forever because I read this

1:15:27

over Christmas break and I knew

1:15:29

eventually we would talk about Hunger

1:15:31

Games and this was I was

1:15:33

like I'm gonna save this green

1:15:35

light. So this is about Araya,

1:15:37

she is the adopted human daughter

1:15:39

of a vampire king. And she

1:15:41

ends up having to be in

1:15:43

the kajari, which is a legendary

1:15:45

tournament held by the goddess of

1:15:47

death. And, but winning will not

1:15:49

be easy. And you know what

1:15:51

she needs? Aaron, you know what?

1:15:53

You know what Arya needs? What?

1:15:55

She needs somebody to train her.

1:15:57

Oh, no! Which means somebody to.

1:16:01

So she meets Rayne. All these books

1:16:03

are the same you guys, didn't you

1:16:05

know? But Chris and Broadband, to be

1:16:07

fair, did it. Did it earlier than

1:16:09

the others. But Rayne, he is a

1:16:11

vampire. He's an efficient killer. He's an

1:16:13

enemy to her father's crown and her

1:16:15

biggest competition. And yet she is drawn

1:16:17

to him. And so this book, here's

1:16:19

why I like this. Of course she

1:16:21

is. Let me tell you. This is

1:16:23

why I like these. You're going to

1:16:25

look this book up and it's going

1:16:27

to tell you it's a six-book series.

1:16:29

It's not, it's six books set in

1:16:31

the same world, but they're duets. They're

1:16:33

duets. So the first two go together

1:16:35

and that story ends. The second two

1:16:37

go together, that story ends. So that,

1:16:39

only read the first two, but the

1:16:41

romance is lovely. They have amazing chemistry.

1:16:43

But I will say, this book has

1:16:45

a ton of action from the get.

1:16:47

You do not spend as much time

1:16:49

wastingasting your time. being like, oh no,

1:16:51

I can't, I can't, I can't throw,

1:16:53

I can't throw this axe. Uh-oh. Like,

1:16:55

can you help me get behind me

1:16:57

and help me move my arm? You

1:16:59

know, there's just like, we don't need

1:17:01

all that. And she, Teresa Broadband, Robin

1:17:03

is a great writer. And so I

1:17:05

highly recommend the series. It's perfect, if

1:17:07

perhaps you've listened to our Twilight collection

1:17:09

or our brand new Hunger Games collection.

1:17:12

Knox, what's your Green Light. My Green

1:17:14

Light is a movie. I think it's

1:17:16

from 2022. I similarly, I watched it

1:17:18

on Chris's Break. It's on Hulu. It's

1:17:20

called How to Blow Up a Pipeline.

1:17:22

It's a kind of thriller slash heisty

1:17:24

kind of movie. It's directed by Daniel

1:17:26

Goldhabor, and it's based on a nonfiction

1:17:28

book. I think it's by Andreas Malm.

1:17:30

But essentially it is a story about...

1:17:32

eight I think it's a young environmental

1:17:34

activists who get together to execute a

1:17:36

plan of sabotaging an oil pipeline in

1:17:38

West Texas and you kind of of

1:17:40

them as you, as the heist unfolds,

1:17:42

you get motivations and backstory and all

1:17:44

the characters kind of in a lost

1:17:46

style kind of vignette. But it's as

1:17:48

really interesting, I love just the format

1:17:50

of a heist in general and I

1:17:52

like bringing all the people together. The

1:17:54

really interesting thing about this movie is

1:17:56

there's not a lot of huge stars

1:17:58

like at all, like the, you'll, you'll,

1:18:00

um. Notice Sasha Lane is in this

1:18:02

and Lucas Gage is probably the most

1:18:04

notable person. But other than that, these

1:18:06

are all kind of very unknown people

1:18:08

doing really great work. So it's a

1:18:10

really well done story. It's a nice,

1:18:12

tight story too. So it's like 16

1:18:14

hours long. But how to blow up

1:18:16

a pipeline on Hulu. It's a nice,

1:18:18

very energetic kind of hasty movie. It's

1:18:20

not just like repping off a casino.

1:18:22

It does kind of elucidate date on

1:18:24

some. political, social, cultural ideas, but it's

1:18:26

not overweighted with that if that's not

1:18:28

what you're interested in. Very cool. Although

1:18:30

I will yellow light you recommending an

1:18:32

environmental movie. when I've been very clear

1:18:34

about my standing. Well, they're blowing up

1:18:36

a pipeline. It's going to make the

1:18:38

environment worse. Okay, good. Okay, good. Because

1:18:40

of oil and stuff. So it's aligned

1:18:42

with you. Okay, that is going to

1:18:45

do it for this episode of the

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He wrote in all caps a simple

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top handle was a nightmare I cut

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my finger The entry hole on top

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of the grill was not pre-drilled and

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I couldn't get it in And then

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Frank's sex day probably listen at my

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favorite party was I had two friends

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over we could not get the screw

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to go through I was like is

1:19:21

this when I come to your

1:19:23

to your house and

1:19:25

you're like, will

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you help me get

1:19:29

the screw in?

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I'm like, I gotta

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go. I gotta go I'm having

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heart capitation and then he

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then he just ended

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the review with

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we ended up ended up

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rolling the in the oven Oh

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