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attention please? Will

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the real weird sisters, please stand up?

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We're gonna have a problem here. Were

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the weird sisters? Were the real weird

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sisters? All you are, the weird sisters

0:37

are fine. They're not the victors. Will

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the real weird sisters? Please stand up.

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Please stand up. Please stand up.

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Please stand up. Hi and welcome

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to the real-word sisters. I'm Alice. And

0:48

I'm Martha. And today we're here

0:50

to talk about Remus John Lupin

0:52

in the Fifth and Sixth Books.

0:54

He is a werewolf married to

0:56

an infid- no he's not married

0:59

to an infidora talks who prefers

1:01

to go by her surname only.

1:03

Not yet. You're getting

1:05

ahead of yourself that'll

1:07

be next next character

1:10

study. My stomach is giving

1:12

a pleasurable squirm thinking about discussing

1:14

lupin. And this is a lot

1:16

of fun. We talked about most

1:18

of the fifth book last week,

1:20

and we're going to be finishing

1:22

up the fifth book arc this

1:24

week and then moving into the

1:27

sixth book. So I guess we

1:29

can just dive right in into

1:31

a world, which is entirely all

1:33

right. And interestingly enough, we're going

1:35

to dive right into the Ponzi

1:37

for our first discussion here, because

1:40

the point where we left off

1:42

in the fifth book was we

1:44

were about to talk about Snape's

1:46

worst memory. That's what I'm referencing.

1:48

My stomach is giving a pleasurable

1:51

squirm, seeing Remus Lupin. And also,

1:53

wow, he was very good looking.

1:55

His dark hair fell into his

1:57

eyes with a sort of casual.

2:00

elegance neither James nor Harry's could

2:02

ever have achieved. Sorry, that's about

2:04

serious. Right, I was going to

2:06

say that doesn't really sound like

2:09

lupin. lupin looked rather pale and

2:11

peaky was the full moon approaching.

2:13

Pretty sure he always looks

2:15

pretty pale and peaky. I've never

2:17

seen him look healthy. No, no.

2:20

Maybe once we get to the

2:22

sixth, or the seventh book and

2:24

he's married to Nymphodor Tonks who

2:26

prefers to go by her surname

2:29

only. Yeah, um, James, and I

2:31

just wanted to briefly talk about

2:33

when James is doodling and tracing

2:35

letters L.E. What did they stand

2:38

for? Come on Harry, keep up.

2:40

Your mother. your mother was there

2:42

for James at a time when

2:44

no one else. Yeah, exactly. So,

2:46

lupin in this memory, we always

2:48

talk about James in serious state

2:51

for this memory. I don't think

2:53

we spend a lot of time talking

2:55

about lupin, and I have to

2:57

say, he is a dork. Yeah. It's kind

2:59

of one of those things where it's

3:01

like, you can kind of see,

3:04

it's not just pedagrue who is

3:06

in awe of the fact that

3:08

he was taken in by too

3:10

cooler. Right. Did you like question

3:12

10, Mooney? Loved it. Give five

3:15

signs that identify the wearwills. Excellent

3:17

question. Do you think you managed

3:19

to get all the sides? Think

3:21

I did. One, he's sitting in

3:23

my chair. Two, he's wearing my

3:25

clothes. Three, his name is Remus

3:28

Lupin. Good one, Lupin. But

3:30

he has to tell Wormtail to

3:32

keep his voice down. Yeah, after he

3:34

just said that about it. Right. That

3:36

was a lot more, like, like, um...

3:39

That was a lot more, like,

3:41

explicitly said than... Hey! Yeah, like

3:43

he literally said, his name's Remus

3:45

Lupin. I thought his name was

3:48

Remus John Lupin. Yeah, well, what

3:50

do you mean? Where did the

3:52

middle name go? Now, Lupin, what

3:54

form do you take once a month?

3:57

Right. That in the memory also,

3:59

serious... is talking about how

4:01

he's bored and he

4:03

wishes it was full

4:06

moon. Lupin, you might.

4:08

Yeah. So anyway, he's

4:10

like being a dork

4:12

again too. Like we've

4:14

still got transfiguration. If

4:16

you're bored, you could

4:18

test me here. That

4:20

sounds like Hermione. Yes,

4:22

it does. You sound

4:24

like Hermione. You sound

4:26

like Hermione. the majority

4:29

of the rest of this

4:31

memory even he's there but I

4:33

guess he's like just reading his

4:35

book the whole time because it

4:37

says like while they're all watching

4:39

him takes Nicholas pants off and

4:41

stuff. Oh it says that Sirius

4:43

and Wormtail were laughing but Lupin

4:45

still apparently intent on his book

4:47

didn't and neither did Lily so

4:49

congratulations Lupin yeah just because you're

4:52

reading a book doesn't get you

4:54

off the hook for keeping your

4:56

friends in check. Right, I guess

4:58

he's studying for transfiguration. Yeah, he's

5:00

not bored. He's got that super

5:02

exciting thing to do. Right. I

5:04

mean, it does kind of make

5:06

you wonder why James and Lupin,

5:08

or James and Sirius were friends

5:11

with Lupin. Yeah, I mean, I

5:13

think that. You have to think

5:15

about, like, this is again, like

5:17

you said, last book, or last

5:19

character study, this is serious's

5:21

perspective on it. And I

5:23

think that, yeah, sorry, Severus'

5:26

perspective on this, snivelous's perspective.

5:28

And I think that, like, I

5:30

think that we're seeing obviously the very

5:32

worst sides of the boys here and

5:34

not saying it's not true, what we're

5:36

seeing, it's bad. But I think that

5:38

the fact that they do befriend Lupin

5:40

and Wormtail, to an extent as well,

5:43

but especially Lupin, does speak to them

5:45

having more of a heart than we

5:47

see in this memory, that I think

5:49

that they see Lupin as a kid

5:51

that they can tell needs a friend and

5:53

that they want to befriend. And I think

5:55

that they had genuine motives for

5:57

becoming friends with Wormtail. to

6:00

see this is a kid

6:02

who needs a friend. Yeah,

6:04

I think that they were

6:06

interested in

6:08

him because of that.

6:10

And then again, I think that

6:12

they also did have the empathy to

6:15

see this is a kid who needs

6:17

a friend. Yeah, I think you're right.

6:19

It's a good point to remember that

6:22

we're not seeing like their full selves

6:24

and their teenagers who have, you know,

6:26

good and bad traits. So this would

6:29

be one of their good traits. And

6:31

I mean, I think when I'm thinking

6:33

about these, these are 15 year olds,

6:36

they're a little bit older than eighth

6:38

graders that I teach, but I think

6:40

this is a pretty realistic friend group,

6:43

honestly, I mean, warm tail a little

6:45

bit, not so much, but honestly, there's

6:47

typically gonna be. a couple kids who

6:50

are a little bit cooler than the

6:52

other two, if there's a group of

6:54

four, like, that not all of

6:56

the popular boys, quote unquote, are

6:59

equally cool. Right, true. If

7:01

you know what I'm saying. I

7:03

do. All right, so then the

7:05

next thing we're gonna see is

7:07

Harry kind of. trying to come

7:09

to terms with this memory and

7:11

he decides he fancies a chat

7:13

with serious. But he ends up

7:16

talking to both serious and lupin.

7:18

lupin is the one who is like

7:20

there when Harry shows up in the fire

7:22

at Grimold Place. So yeah, and I like

7:24

that Lupin's there for this conversation. I think

7:26

it's important that I mean, Harry didn't initially

7:28

want to talk to Lupin about it. Like,

7:30

not that he didn't want to talk to

7:32

him, but he was initially only wanting to

7:34

talk to Sirius about it. But I think

7:36

the fact that Lupin's therefore it is nice

7:38

too. Yeah, he can give a bit more perspective.

7:41

Like I think serious, like, Harry, even though

7:43

Harry really reveres reveres serious, he doesn't,

7:45

he doesn't, I don't, I don't, I don't think

7:47

he would take he would take he would take

7:49

him. Quite as seriously Because I

7:51

think he would he he would

7:53

feel like serious is more biased

7:56

than lupin is right right makes

7:58

sense. Yeah, and I mean And

8:00

then it's also helpful too that

8:02

Lupin kind of, I mean, both

8:04

serious and Lupin in that scene, they're

8:07

both kind of like, I'm not proud

8:09

of this memory. But then Lupin like

8:11

kind of, I think he has the

8:13

most like measured take on it that

8:16

like, he's talking about how like, you

8:18

know, everybody looked up to them and

8:20

thought they were the height of cool

8:22

and how like. They kind of they

8:24

calmed down once they got to

8:26

seventh year. Yeah, and well and

8:28

once James had deflated his head

8:30

a bit and stopped hexing people

8:32

just for the fun of it

8:34

and Harry even snape and lubin

8:36

well snape was a special case.

8:38

Yeah, and then Sirius says like

8:40

we were all idiots. Well not

8:43

moony so much lubin did I

8:45

ever tell you to lay off

8:47

snape? Did I ever have the

8:49

guts to tell you I thought

8:51

you were out of order? Yes,

8:53

so looping is hard on himself,

8:55

we know that. Right, and then

8:58

serious, yeah, well, you made us

9:00

feel ashamed of ourselves sometimes, that

9:02

was something. But then, like I

9:04

kind of alluded to last character

9:06

study. Lupin's biggest takeaway from this is

9:08

he is extremely upset finding out that

9:11

serious or that Snape has said he's

9:13

done teaching occupancy. He says, he's like,

9:15

well, first of all, serious, I'm coming

9:18

up there to have a word with

9:20

Snape, but Lupin wrenches him back, and

9:22

he's, if anyone's going to tell Snape,

9:24

it'll be me. But Harry, first of

9:27

all, you're going to go back to

9:29

Snape and tell him that on no

9:31

account is he to stop giving you

9:33

less if Harry's going to do that.

9:36

Right. And also I like when

9:38

when lupin said are you serious

9:40

Harry? No, I'm Harry No, I'm

9:43

Harry serious. I mean lupin. I'm

9:45

Harry Remus Yeah, but I think

9:48

that it's important. I mean lupin

9:50

and serious both Serious is pretty

9:52

upset about this too. I think

9:55

he takes it more as a

9:57

snape sucks kind of thing whereas

10:00

you know he's lupins more like

10:02

this is really important yeah

10:04

exactly yeah but yeah I

10:06

think that even it doesn't

10:08

really matter what they say Harry's

10:10

still not gonna take it

10:12

seriously no Harry's pretty much

10:14

done with spape and he's

10:16

not gonna he's not gonna

10:18

go talk to him excuse

10:20

me professor on no account

10:22

are you to stop teaching

10:24

me occupancy He

10:27

said, I really need another

10:29

session of remedial potions. Yeah,

10:32

exactly. So anyway, Harry kind

10:34

of gets some reassurance from

10:36

them in this scene. And

10:38

like you said, I think

10:40

it's good that Lupin was

10:42

there because he's able to be

10:44

a little bit of that

10:47

less biased figure that Harry

10:49

might. trust his opinion a

10:51

little bit. Yeah, and I

10:53

think it's also helping him

10:56

in Lupin's relationship too because,

10:58

uh, spoiler alert, he's not

11:00

going to have series around

11:02

for much longer after this

11:05

and this is kind of

11:07

the first conversation that Harry's

11:09

had with Lupin that wasn't

11:11

at Hogwarts where he's actually

11:13

kind of confiding in him and

11:16

stuff. So he shows up to fight

11:18

as well. Yes, and I mean

11:20

with this is kind of

11:22

he's there We don't see

11:24

too much of him until

11:26

after serious is

11:28

untimely demise He doesn't

11:31

say a whole lot, but

11:33

I mean Harry he tells

11:35

Harry to round up the

11:38

others and go. I also

11:40

think it's important. He's the

11:42

only one there who knows

11:44

who Neville is I'm pretty

11:47

sure Lupin's like, I

11:49

remember you, now just simply

11:52

picture Voldemort wearing

11:54

your grand's hat. Yeah,

12:00

but I do think he

12:02

is literally the only one

12:04

there. Who's the only one

12:06

there that cracks me out?

12:09

It's true. Yeah. True. True.

12:11

It's definitely true. Everybody else

12:13

is like, who is this

12:15

kid? I mean, even Ginny,

12:17

I mean, they can figure

12:20

it out because she's red

12:22

hair, but that's about it.

12:24

And Luna. Yeah, true. Same thing.

12:26

I don't, we don't know much

12:29

about Lupin and Luna's prior relationship,

12:31

but I mean, he definitely, he

12:33

had her as a student as

12:36

well, so he knows her too.

12:38

Yeah, true. We don't really see

12:41

him interact with Luna the way

12:43

we do with Neville, but yeah.

12:45

So, Sirius is the one

12:48

to like, hold Harry back

12:50

from trying to go beyond

12:52

the veil or whatever. about

12:54

seeing this happen but he

12:56

has to be the adult

12:58

in this moment and like

13:00

holding Harry back and I

13:03

mean Harry's yelling at set

13:05

loop and he is not

13:08

dead. Well actually he is.

13:10

Okay Alice have a heart. Yeah

13:12

I know it's just yeah

13:14

that loop and that's kind

13:16

of what loopin is. He can't

13:18

come back Harry he can't come

13:21

back because he's We have to

13:23

go, Harry's like, we have

13:25

to go back. Yeah, he

13:27

is not dead. Well, he is.

13:30

It's not funny, but it is

13:32

the way we're saying it

13:34

to me. Yeah, sorry. Yeah,

13:36

poor Harry, poor Sirius, poor

13:38

Lupin. I mean, like you

13:40

said, Lupin obviously is very

13:42

upset by this too, but

13:44

he has to kind of

13:46

be the adult. help Harry and

13:49

prevent Harry from running to the

13:51

other side as well. Right. And

13:53

to Harry it was meaningless. Nothing

13:56

mattered except that Lupin stopped pretending

13:58

that Sirius was standing... from them

14:00

behind that old curtain was not

14:03

going to emerge at any moment

14:05

shaking back his dark air and

14:07

eager to re-enter the battle. Yeah.

14:10

Um, lupin' stop pretending Sirius isn't

14:12

standing up behind that old curtain.

14:14

Yeah, that's where Sirius, which is

14:17

serious, was hiding, simply lurking out

14:19

of sight. It's like Jean Parmesan.

14:21

What a what a fun prank.

14:24

Lupin. Sirius is just standing on

14:26

the other side of the veil.

14:29

Yeah, so, but again, it's just

14:31

really sad because, you know, loop

14:33

in is... Obviously shaken by this

14:36

too, that's his best friend. Neville

14:38

Harry, oh really sorry, was that

14:40

man, well serious black, a friend

14:43

of yours. Lupin's like, I'm glad

14:45

I'm here because I'm the only

14:47

one who knows who you even

14:50

are. He does stop that weird

14:52

tap dancing spell or jinks on

14:54

Neville's legs. So nobody else would

14:57

have done that because they didn't

14:59

know which side Neville was on.

15:01

Right. So, that's

15:04

the moment with Lupin here.

15:06

We don't really see too much more

15:08

at the Department of

15:10

Mysteries from him. Yeah. I mean,

15:12

it is a pretty big moment. And

15:14

even in the movies too, I feel

15:17

like Lupin is pretty big in that

15:19

moment too. I don't really remember him

15:21

being there in the movie. I

15:23

mean, I'm sure he is. I don't

15:26

know why they would take, they

15:28

would want to have... The Honorable

15:30

David Thulis in the sea,

15:32

and I'm sure. The Honorable,

15:34

yes. Sir David Thulis. He

15:36

is not a sir. Don't

15:39

call him Sir, Professor. Is

15:41

Michael Gam- Well, RIP, wasn't he

15:43

a sir? Was he? I don't

15:46

think so. I don't know. We

15:48

know it's Dame Maggie Smith, though.

15:50

Of course. Yeah, no, it was

15:52

Sir Michael Gamman. He

15:54

was knighted by Queen Elizabeth

15:57

in 1998. Oh, no. Ha ha

15:59

ha! Why? Did he ever

16:01

do to get... He was

16:03

given the title of Night

16:05

Bachelor. Oh, is that the

16:08

movie star Amy Adams right

16:10

now? Night Bachelor? Sir David

16:12

Thuleis will happen at some

16:14

point. Probably. It's like pretty

16:16

much every actor. I wish

16:19

Sir Alan Rickman had happened.

16:21

Did it not? No. We better night

16:23

these people before they get

16:26

too old. David Thuleis is

16:28

getting up there. even though

16:30

he's no he's not still

16:32

quite young yeah still rather

16:34

young yeah okay well anyway

16:36

yeah like you said this

16:38

is pretty much the end

16:40

of him in this book

16:42

the only thing is we

16:44

do see him at King's

16:46

Cross when they basically the

16:48

advanced guard reassembles to come

16:50

put the fear of God

16:52

in Vernon and Tonks is

16:54

wearing a weird sister's shirt

16:56

that's cool yeah this is

16:58

the moment maybe where Back

17:00

when Sirius was dying,

17:03

Lupin was probably,

17:05

you know, thinking, now that her

17:07

cousin's out of the way,

17:09

maybe I have a chance.

17:11

Yeah, I think that's definitely

17:14

what, because I think

17:16

she might have been

17:18

a bit in love with

17:21

Sirius. Exactly. Okay, no.

17:23

But yeah, so Lupin

17:25

is at the platform

17:27

and he's. He's probably

17:29

the scariest one to Vernon because he

17:31

looks so shabby. Well, he's like we

17:33

were here to have a word with

17:35

your aunt and uncle. Harry's like, I

17:37

don't think that's a good idea. All

17:39

right, so that pretty much concludes Lupin's

17:41

arc in the fifth book. Do we

17:44

need to rank him before we move

17:46

on to the sixth book, Martha? Well,

17:48

we wouldn't be ranking him. We would

17:50

be rating him. True, true, rating him.

17:52

I don't know. I think we could

17:54

just save it until the end until

17:56

the end. Do it one right? Yeah,

17:58

but we're waiting Okay, it's up

18:01

to you Alice. If you really want

18:03

to do it, let's do it. Well,

18:05

I think it's a little weird that

18:07

he gets a whole separate rating.

18:09

Okay, let's, okay, let's read it.

18:11

And that's, like, I think it's

18:14

kind of silly that we do

18:16

the rating at all, but, okay.

18:18

Heart, probably still a five,

18:21

he's quite sensitive. Yes,

18:23

humor, it's not intentionally funny like

18:25

ever. Though, I think a two

18:27

is fine, keep it there. Unikeness

18:29

and creativity has that gone up

18:32

at all? He was a four.

18:34

No, I don't think it's gone

18:36

up. I don't think so either.

18:38

Depth probably also still. I feel

18:40

like four was a little high for

18:43

him in the third and fourth books.

18:45

Well, it was high for the fourth

18:47

book, but it's a lot of depth

18:49

of the third book. Okay. Well, seems

18:51

like a four still. Yeah, this is

18:53

why I said I don't think we needed

18:56

to do a new rating because I think

18:58

it's the same. Okay, well we'll see after

19:00

the sixth book if it's changed at all.

19:02

Okay. All right, we're going to take a

19:04

quick ad break and then we'll

19:07

be right back to start our

19:09

conversation, our loopinversation

19:11

of the sixth book. All right, so

19:13

the sixth book. Lupin is

19:15

not in this one quite as much

19:17

as the fifth or the seventh, but

19:19

he still has, he's still definitely there.

19:22

And we're getting a lot of foreshadowing

19:24

of him and Tonks getting together, which

19:26

is going to happen at the end

19:28

of this book. So that's kind of

19:30

maybe one of the more important

19:32

parts of this book. So yeah, there's

19:35

there's also quite a few moments

19:37

where we're like getting it from

19:39

Hermione's perspective. So it's not always

19:42

quite accurate as to what exactly

19:44

is really happening with Luton. Yeah,

19:46

I think also this is the

19:49

book where obviously Harry's starting

19:51

to figure out his adult relationship

19:53

with Luben because it's been a

19:55

couple years since he's been his

19:57

teacher and now that's serious. is

20:00

gone. He kind of, at the beginning

20:02

of the year, for instance, he talks

20:04

about how he had thought about writing

20:07

to Lupin. It's kind of like, I

20:09

do feel like maybe Lupin could have

20:11

reached out to Harry as well, but

20:13

like I guess also, Lupin does say

20:15

like, I thought about writing, but I

20:17

couldn't just, he's been underground too

20:19

much, he's been living among his

20:21

equals, right. But yeah, so this

20:23

first mention is when we find

20:26

out that. Tonks has been having

20:28

trouble with her metamorphosing. Right. Or

20:30

sorry, metamorphosing. And it's Survivor's guilt.

20:33

And Lupins, Hermine, he says, I

20:35

know Lupins tried to talk around.

20:37

Yeah, that's not exactly what's been

20:40

happening. Yeah, it's kind of the

20:42

opposite of what's been happening. I

20:44

feel like Lupins tried to talk

20:46

her down from liking him. Yeah.

20:49

And that's actually contributed to her

20:51

being more depressed. And

20:53

also, we get to hear

20:56

Ron's perspective, that's stupid.

20:58

Well, okay, this is

21:00

not a Tonks character study.

21:02

Yeah, true. Okay, but anyway,

21:05

so that's kind of our

21:07

first teaser of the fact

21:10

that Lupin and Tonks have

21:12

been having off screen conversations,

21:14

even though we don't get

21:17

an accurate interpretation

21:19

of what they've been talking

21:22

about. that teaser. Lupin

21:24

actually shows up at Harry's

21:26

birthday, his 16th birthday, and

21:28

it's to Mr. sorry, it's

21:30

to Mrs. Weasley's displeasure. It

21:33

was marred by grizzly tidings

21:35

brought to the party by

21:37

Remus Lee. Yeah, it's not

21:39

that it's her displeasure that

21:41

he's there to bring bad

21:43

news about grizzly tidings. Well,

21:45

about how Igor Karkeroff's body

21:47

was found in a shack

21:49

up north. How? And how

21:52

there's been several more werewolf

21:54

attacks. So I mean, I

21:56

can't see why this is

21:58

not really Mrs. Weasley. pleasure.

22:00

I mean the fact that Igor

22:02

Karkeroff's body was found that seems

22:04

like a good news. No it's

22:06

I mean it's gross news. I

22:08

mean is Harry really sad? It's

22:10

not it's it's not about being

22:12

sad that Karkeroff's dead it's about

22:14

not really wanting to spend your

22:17

birthday talking about he's been found

22:19

dead. Lupin is also looking great

22:21

it says he was looking gaunt

22:23

and grim his brown hair streaked

22:25

liberally with gray his clothes more

22:27

ragged and patched and patched than

22:29

ever. Oh, loopin. Once again,

22:31

we got to get in

22:33

there and talk about how

22:36

terrible he looks. Right. And

22:38

then Bill, did you hear

22:40

about Florian Fortske, Rebus?

22:43

Mrs. Wesley's pointedly

22:45

glaring at Bill

22:47

during this conversation.

22:49

And then we find out

22:52

that Oliveander has also

22:54

gone missing as well. And

22:56

Lupin kind of, as usual, I

22:59

feel like Lupin's role a lot

23:01

of the time is to like

23:03

offer an analysis of a situation

23:06

because they're asking like what what

23:08

people are going to do for

23:10

want. They'll make do with other

23:13

makers, but Olavanda was the best

23:15

and if the other side have

23:17

got him, it's not so good

23:20

for loopin. What a fun birthday.

23:22

I just love the expression grizzly

23:24

tidings. Yeah, I do like that

23:27

too. Lupin arrived to

23:29

bring grizzly tidings. So yeah,

23:31

not the most fun birthday party,

23:34

but at least Lupin made an

23:36

appearance. That was nice. Yeah, even

23:38

though Mrs. Weasley was not pleased.

23:40

Right. So like you kind of

23:42

mentioned earlier one thing that Harry

23:45

mentions later in the book after

23:47

he's at Hogwarts he's he's really

23:49

sad because he never he never

23:51

really gets much mail anymore he

23:53

never hears obviously can't hear from

23:55

serious anymore and he was hoping

23:58

he would hear from loop in. but

24:00

Lupin never writes. He's like, you

24:02

never call, you never write. No,

24:04

note, bed's empty. Yeah, exactly. But

24:07

yeah, so that does get explained

24:09

because when I was kind of

24:11

preparing for the show and I

24:14

saw that I was like, come

24:16

on, Lupin, you can do better

24:18

than I remembered that later he

24:20

explains. He's been living underground

24:22

with his equals. and

24:24

it would have been a

24:26

dead giveaway if he'd been

24:29

sending letters to Harry. You

24:31

think? He's like, I was trying

24:33

to seduce him that I

24:35

could maybe bite him at

24:38

the next full moon. Yeah,

24:40

they're all like, they all... I'm

24:42

sure, I'm sure all the,

24:44

all the werewolves are totally

24:46

fooled by loop and being

24:48

among them. How many werewolves

24:50

even are there? Yeah, I

24:52

don't really know that either.

24:54

It seems weird, but okay. Okay,

24:56

so speaking of that, we're gonna. get

24:59

to hear the whole story of what

25:01

he's been doing at Christmas time. That's

25:03

when the next time we really see

25:05

loop in again. And he's looking great

25:08

as usual. Of course we got an

25:10

update about how he looks bad. As

25:12

usual. He was thinner and more ragged-looking

25:15

than ever. Great. Wow. I mean he

25:17

was looking so good before. There was

25:19

a lot of a lot of room

25:21

for decline. Right. So he must be

25:24

looking just a little bit worse because

25:26

he looked so good before. Right.

25:28

So Harry ends up in

25:31

this conversation with Lupin and

25:33

he, there's a couple different

25:35

phases to the conversation. So

25:37

the first one is that

25:39

they're talking about Snape and

25:41

it's Mr. Weasley Harry and

25:43

Lupin. And Lupin kind of

25:45

chimes in out of nowhere

25:47

because Harry is trying to.

25:49

kind of talking to Mr.

25:51

Weasley and in Lupin it

25:53

says as Harry spoke he

25:55

saw Lupin's head turn a

25:57

little toward him taking in

25:59

every word. And Harry, how do

26:01

we know? It isn't our business

26:03

to know. It's Dumbledore's business. Dumbledore

26:05

trusts Severus. Not ought to be

26:07

good enough for all of us.

26:09

This is the book where Lupin

26:11

switches to calling him Severus, and

26:13

it's so fake. I'm like, what,

26:15

why, do you think you're friends

26:17

with him or something? I think

26:19

he's trying his hardest to be

26:22

as cordial as possible, and he's

26:24

like, I need to stop calling

26:26

him sniveless. Yeah, as if he was

26:28

calling him snipples. He's like, I always

26:30

wanted to call him Severus, but but

26:33

Sirius would have laughed at me. So

26:35

now I have the opportunity to call

26:37

him. He's been freed. Yeah. But yeah,

26:39

this is where he's he's starting to,

26:41

you know, really be a little bit

26:43

like laying it on thick with

26:45

how much he trusts Stumbendor. Right.

26:47

People have said it many times.

26:49

It comes down to whether or

26:52

not you trust Stumbledor's judgment. I

26:54

do. Therefore, I trust Severus. Yeah.

26:56

Can you honestly say you like

26:58

Snape? I neither like nor dislike

27:01

Severus. No, Harry, I am speaking

27:03

the truth. We shall never be

27:06

bosom friends, perhaps. Perhaps, yeah. Just

27:08

perhaps. I mean, we never want

27:10

to fully close the door on

27:13

that possibility. Right, I mean, and

27:15

it is, he does make a

27:18

fair point pointing out that he

27:20

will never forget that it was

27:22

Snape, sorry, it was Severus who

27:25

made the wolf spayed potion. I mean, and

27:27

Harry makes a good point too, that

27:29

he's the one who, quote, accidentally let it

27:31

slip that you were a were a were

27:33

wolf. And Lupin. The news would have

27:36

leaked out anyway. Yeah, I guess so,

27:38

but he kept me healthy. I must

27:40

be grateful. I must be grateful. I

27:42

feel like Lupin's been like either

27:44

like practicing a lot of

27:46

yoga lately or like I

27:48

just feel like or like going

27:50

to a lot of therapy or

27:53

something because he's definitely like trying

27:55

to be really zen about everything.

27:57

Well and also it's like he's

27:59

just been so damaged and broken by

28:02

everybody else that I think he's like

28:04

the bare minimum from Snape is that

28:06

he didn't tamper with his potion so

28:09

he must be grateful for that. I'm

28:11

like that's not really that great of

28:13

a thing that Snape did. I mean

28:15

yes he made the potion that I

28:17

do kind of get being grateful for

28:20

that, but like, he didn't kill me

28:22

when he had the chance. Like, oh,

28:24

I'm so grateful for that. Like, this

28:26

is, this is your standard of a

28:29

good relationship. I know, poor Lupin, he's

28:31

been so, like you said, his bar

28:33

of how people treat him and see

28:36

him is so low. Yes. He's pleased

28:38

with the absolute bare minimum. Yeah. Oh,

28:40

and Harry points out again. Maybe he

28:42

didn't dare mess with the potion with

28:45

dumbled or watching him yet. Being in

28:47

Hogwarts was not the best place to

28:49

commit murder. Right. And then looping, you

28:52

are determined to hate him, Harry, with

28:54

a faint smile. Okay. Yeah. You have

28:56

inherited an old prejudice. It's not

28:58

exactly that. It's also that Snape

29:01

has been absolutely awful to Harry.

29:03

Yeah, he has. So by all

29:05

me, I would say, what you

29:08

have told Arthur and me, but

29:10

do not expect him to share

29:12

your view of the matter. Yeah,

29:15

well, I just, like again, it's

29:17

not really an old prejudice, it's

29:20

more so Snape has carried on

29:22

his old prejudice and takes

29:24

it out on Harry. Yeah, this,

29:26

and also Lupin is just like.

29:29

I feel like he's become the old

29:31

wise man in this scene too

29:33

like he's just he's not very

29:35

I feel like he's gotten more

29:37

one note in this scene than

29:39

he has been previously agreed and

29:41

I think it does have to

29:43

do with serious dying because I

29:45

think serious and James both brought

29:47

a little bit of levity to

29:49

loop in and now that they're

29:51

gone right totally so like

29:53

philosophical. Yeah, I was going to say

29:55

he definitely has nobody to like keep

29:57

him in check as far as being

29:59

like an earnest old philosopher.

30:01

Yeah, exactly. It's kind

30:04

of like how Hermione would

30:06

be if without Harriet Ross.

30:08

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So I

30:10

mean, yeah. So we kind of

30:12

move on from this part of

30:14

the conversation with Lupin, and we

30:17

talk about. Lupin starts to tell

30:19

Harry about Greyback. First he, this

30:21

comes up because Lupin is talking

30:23

about what he's been doing and

30:26

this is where we've been mentioning,

30:28

he's been living among his equals,

30:30

he's been underground, almost literally. However

30:32

it has been difficult gaining their

30:35

trust. I bear the unmistakable signs

30:37

of having tried to live among

30:39

wizards you see, whereas they have

30:41

shunned normal society and live on

30:43

the margins, stealing, sometimes killing to

30:46

eat. What would they normally steal?

30:48

That's what I want to know.

30:50

I guess food. Yeah. I also

30:52

don't really get how, how Lupin

30:54

works as a spy ready-made

30:57

because isn't he kind

30:59

of well known as somebody

31:01

who worked at Hogwarts and

31:03

stuff? Like, it's not just

31:05

that he bears the unmistakable

31:07

signs. It's like, I feel

31:09

like people know that he did

31:11

try to live among wizards, but

31:13

I don't know. Yeah, I'm not sure

31:15

either. Like, I wasn't sure if he

31:17

was disguising himself as

31:20

somebody else, like another werewolf,

31:22

you know what I mean?

31:24

Like, yeah, maybe. That's, yeah,

31:26

that's probably. Like, even though

31:28

he has the ready-made identity,

31:31

he also could have

31:33

to then pretend like he's

31:35

somebody else. Right. But what are

31:37

the signs of having tried to live

31:39

about among? I mean, I think he's

31:41

kept like he's shaved and stuff is

31:43

kind of my impression like he keeps

31:45

a keeps a cleanish appearance. Yeah, I

31:47

mean, I think if he's trying to

31:49

really get into the spy role, then

31:52

he should just look even shabbier, I

31:54

guess. Well, I think that's why

31:56

he's looking shabbier. Maybe, yeah. So

31:58

he doesn't look shabby enough. Right.

32:00

So anyway, they start to

32:02

talk about why the werewolves

32:05

would like Voldemort. And

32:07

it's sort of interesting, because

32:09

I do feel like

32:11

it makes, when you look

32:13

at some political things that

32:16

have happened, it kind of

32:18

mirrors this idea that like.

32:20

Really where wolves would not fare

32:22

any better under Voldemort in fact

32:25

right probably fair worse because they

32:27

you know He looks down on

32:29

like half breeds and totally yeah

32:32

And a lot of followers

32:34

are yeah same thing, but so

32:36

like really Voldemort is not in

32:38

their favor But that they're just

32:40

so like shunned by regular society

32:42

that they're kind of Looking for

32:45

that, yeah. But anyway, yeah, so

32:47

that they think they're going to

32:49

have a better life under his

32:51

rule. And it's hard to argue

32:53

with Grayback out there. Harry has

32:55

not heard of Grayback. So, Lupin

32:58

gives a little bit of a

33:00

backstory on Grayback and he says

33:02

that it was Grayback who bit

33:04

him. Yeah, Grayback specializes in children.

33:07

Fight them young, he says, and

33:09

raise them away from their parents,

33:11

raise them to hate normal

33:13

wizards. Yeah. So, Voldemort really

33:16

like, uses Grayback to, yeah.

33:18

I mean, it's, I guess,

33:20

sort of mutually beneficial because

33:22

Grayback really enjoys biting people, but.

33:24

But the thing is, I think

33:27

it's, I don't think he's gotten

33:29

to bite as many people as

33:31

Voldemort has promised him because it

33:33

says that he uses it as

33:35

a threat and that it, like,

33:38

works, so. that I don't know. We

33:40

don't really see, as far as I

33:42

know, we don't see a huge uptick

33:45

in werewolf population

33:47

under, under Voldemort's regime.

33:49

And I feel like

33:51

if Grayback was getting

33:54

to bite to his heart's

33:56

desire, we would be seeing more

33:58

were were wolves. Right. Um,

34:04

interesting

34:09

about

34:13

Lupin's

34:18

parents.

34:22

I mean,

34:25

I think. we know that they're

34:27

dead but they're pretty young to

34:30

be not alive anymore. Same thing

34:32

for James's parents and Sirius's parents

34:34

like why did they're all dead

34:37

even though they're all like in

34:39

their 30s it seems unlikely yeah

34:41

to be clear the parents aren't

34:44

aren't kids are in the 30s

34:46

yeah they're all like 36 at

34:48

this point right their parents maybe

34:51

38 yeah they were they were

34:53

they were they've been for a

34:55

while too they're 20 years older than

34:57

Harry right yeah So there are 36. Yeah.

35:00

And it doesn't, I mean, and not only

35:02

that, but they've been, they've been

35:04

dead, well, at least Harry's grandparents

35:06

have all been dead before he

35:08

was born. Right. So it doesn't

35:11

make a ton of sense. We

35:13

know that James' parents were supposedly

35:15

really old, but still. Yeah, and also

35:17

it, like, I mean, it makes sense for

35:19

like one or two of them to happen.

35:22

Right. deceased parents, but I

35:24

don't know. Not all of them.

35:26

Right, but I do wonder what

35:28

was it that Lupin's father had

35:30

done to offend Grayback. I know

35:32

I was wondering that too, and

35:34

probably the wiki would tell us,

35:36

but I don't think it would

35:39

be canon. Why do you say

35:41

that? Yeah. So anyway, we learned

35:43

this about Grayback. And...

35:45

Then the conversation moves into Harry

35:47

asking Lupin if he knows anything

35:49

about the half-blood prince and Lupin

35:52

doesn't know anything. He's never heard

35:54

of the half-blood prince, which is

35:56

sort of interesting because they're talking

35:58

about Snevereus. And Harry points

36:01

out when they talk about Levicorpus

36:03

and Lupin says that it was

36:05

really in vogue when he was

36:08

at Hogwarts and Harry like has

36:10

this theory that it sounds like

36:12

it was invented while you were

36:14

at school and Lupin pretty much

36:16

shoots that down not necessarily. Jinks

36:19

is going in and out of

36:21

fashion like everything else. Because James

36:23

was a pure blood Harry and

36:25

I promise you he never asked

36:27

us to call him prince. Um, yeah,

36:30

Harry, it's pretty obvious. And it does

36:32

say, loop and smile is a little

36:34

too understand. Lupin also, uh, kind of

36:36

gives Harry the wrong advice here. He's

36:39

like, why don't you check how old

36:41

this book is? That will give you

36:43

some clue as to whom the, when

36:45

the prince was at Hogwarts. No,

36:48

it won't. Tid will lead you

36:50

astray, actually. Yeah, Lupin pretty

36:52

much leads Harry off the

36:54

scent here. Right, because he

36:56

doesn't realize that he doesn't

36:59

think about how it might

37:01

be a secondhand book. Right,

37:03

exactly. So anyway, that's close

37:05

to the end of the

37:08

discussion here, but we do

37:10

get into another little foreshadowing

37:12

moment about Tonks and Lupin,

37:15

because they talk about how. She

37:17

she's not there You are as

37:19

bad as that talks. She is

37:21

always knocking I invited dear talks

37:23

to come along today But she

37:26

wouldn't come have you spoken to

37:28

her lately remis I invited dear

37:30

talks You are as bad as

37:33

that talks And then I like

37:35

how lupins like just breezing it

37:37

off. No, I haven't been in

37:39

contact with anybody very much, but

37:42

Tonks has got her own family

37:44

to go to, hasn't she? Well,

37:46

it's a pretty good point. She does

37:48

have her own family to go to, she

37:51

just need to come to the borough for

37:53

Christmas. Yeah, she's one of the only ones

37:55

whose parents are still living. Right. Well, then

37:57

we have this stupid theory that Harry now...

37:59

has because her mindy said it. It's

38:02

like she's giving loophole annoyed look as

38:04

though it was all his fault she

38:06

was getting flur for a daughter-in-law

38:08

instead of talks. That is not

38:10

what the look is. And also

38:12

Mrs. Wiesley does not want talks

38:14

as a daughter-in-law either. She would

38:16

be she would find reasons to

38:18

be annoyed with talks as a

38:20

daughter-in-law. Yeah you're right like this

38:22

is Harry interpreting this from her

38:24

mindy's theory but really the annoyed

38:26

look is the fact that he's

38:28

like clearly being up to slash

38:30

purposely pushing Tonks off. Right, blowing

38:32

her off a little bit. And

38:34

acting like he is, I feel like

38:36

in this conversation he's acting like

38:38

really obtuse, like I said, or

38:41

purposely just pretending like he has

38:43

no idea why Mrs. Weasley is

38:45

asked. Right, she has her own

38:48

family to go too, doesn't she?

38:50

Then we get into a conversation

38:52

about Tonks is patronis. It has

38:54

changed form. So Harry asks

38:57

Lupin about that. It

38:59

looked better to ask

39:01

than Lupin. The man

39:03

who knew all about patronuses.

39:05

It looked big and it

39:08

had four legs. I was

39:10

also like Lupin took

39:12

his time chewing his

39:15

turkey and swallowing before

39:17

saying slowly. Sometimes a

39:20

great shock and emotional

39:22

upheaval. And how Harry's

39:25

like, hey, it couldn't have

39:27

been. And then Mrs. Wiesley

39:29

cuts in Arthur. I mean,

39:31

and it's partly an organic

39:33

interruption because this is when

39:35

Percy shows up. But I also

39:37

feel like Mrs. Wiesley thought maybe

39:39

Harry was more onto this situation

39:42

than he was. He wasn't. No,

39:44

he was about to say serious.

39:46

Right. He was in love with

39:48

her after her with him. She

39:50

was in love with him.

39:53

No, I

39:55

don't think

39:58

that. That's

40:00

really the end of lupin at

40:02

the Christmas time at the borough.

40:04

We're gonna see lupin for a

40:07

couple small scenes. The main thing

40:09

is the after the battle, but

40:11

we do see him in the

40:14

battle at Hogwarts, not the Battle

40:16

of Hogwarts, but the Battle of

40:18

the Astronomy Tower, Alice. We see

40:20

him battling a death eater, so

40:23

he's there fighting. And then after

40:25

the battle- He's the man who

40:27

knew all about patronesses

40:30

after all. Who better to

40:32

ask than Lupin, the man

40:34

who knew all about patronuses?

40:36

Who better to fight a

40:38

death eater than Lupin? Exactly.

40:40

So then we get this scene

40:42

in the hospital wing that we

40:44

seem to get at the end

40:46

of books a lot. But Lupin

40:48

is one of the people that's

40:51

there. And the first- thing that

40:53

we see him chiming in about

40:55

is the fact that Gray or

40:57

that Bill has been bitten by

40:59

Grayback And he hadn't transformed so

41:01

we're getting lupins theory on what's

41:03

going to happen to Bill No,

41:05

I don't think that Bill will

41:07

be a true where will but

41:09

that does not mean there won't be

41:12

some contamination Those are cursed wounds

41:14

These are dark times. Yeah, I

41:16

thought I was picturing So

41:20

basically he just says

41:23

like he might have

41:25

some wolfish characteristics. And

41:27

this is prior to most

41:29

of the crew here knowing what's

41:31

happened. Yeah, Ron, double or

41:34

might know something that worked

41:36

though. Where is he? Oh,

41:38

Ron. No, he won't. Ginny

41:40

has to break the news to

41:42

him. that Dumbledore is dead and

41:45

then Lupin reacts first. No! Yeah,

41:47

and then he collapsed into a

41:49

chair beside Bill's bed, his hands

41:51

over his face. Harry had never

41:54

seen Lupin lose control before. He

41:56

felt as though he was intruding

41:58

upon something private, indecent. Yeah,

42:00

so indecent is kind of weird

42:02

words, but okay Yeah, I mean I get

42:05

it because like this is kind

42:07

of a personal moment for loopin

42:09

and like he said like loopin's

42:11

always so composed. So it's right

42:13

it feels even more Like a

42:16

violation to be part of this

42:18

right So you you can see I mean it's

42:20

it's really shaking loopin that dumbledore

42:22

has to well even more so

42:25

when he finds out that it

42:27

was snape yeah, he is He

42:29

is like, he's been such a

42:32

dumbledore loyalist and trusted dumbledore so

42:34

much that I think that his

42:36

reaction here, he's the most like

42:38

angry about the fact that he

42:41

was. what it appears to be,

42:43

fool by Snape. Snape was a

42:45

highly accomplished document. We always knew

42:47

that. And this is interesting too,

42:50

because I feel like he now

42:52

has reverted to calling him Snape.

42:54

He's not calling Severus anymore. Right,

42:56

just like when McGonagall switches to

42:59

calling Harry Potter again. Right, right.

43:01

I think like calling somebody their

43:03

Christian name versus their surname is

43:06

a big thing in this series.

43:08

We also have Lupin's reaction to

43:10

why. or sorry to what Harry

43:12

believes was Snape's cover story

43:15

that Snape says that he

43:17

told Dumboldore that he was

43:19

didn't realize what he was

43:21

doing and he was really sorry

43:23

that James and Lily were

43:26

dead and Dumboldore believed that.

43:28

Dumboldore believed Snape was sorry

43:31

James was dead. Snape hated

43:33

James. I love it because it's like

43:35

yeah that does sound really weak the

43:37

way Harry delivers it too. Snape passed

43:39

Voldemort the information that made Voldemort hunt

43:41

down my mom and dad. Then, Snape

43:44

told Dumbledore he hadn't realized what he

43:46

was doing. He was really sorry he'd

43:48

done it. Sorry that they were dead.

43:50

They all stared at him. And Dumbledore

43:52

believed that. But they all, they all

43:54

believe that Dumbledore believed that. Like, they're

43:56

incredulous that that's the story, but it's

43:58

not that they're all... like, there must

44:00

have been more to it than that. I

44:03

love it. It's so funny. So then, Lupin

44:05

kind of, I feel like he kind

44:07

of gathers himself and switches back

44:10

into more of a role that

44:12

he's usually in, which is like

44:14

reassuring people, because McGonagall

44:16

says that like, she regrets the

44:19

fact that she sends. sent somebody

44:21

to her, or she sent Phileas

44:23

to fetch Snape. And Lupin's like,

44:25

it isn't your fault, Minerva. We

44:27

all wanted more help. And if

44:30

Snape was on his way, if

44:32

you hadn't gotten away, you probably

44:34

would have killed you and Lunar.

44:36

Exactly. So I mean, Lupin is

44:38

like, like I said, I feel

44:41

like he's composed himself a

44:43

little bit. Right. And he's taken

44:45

back on this role of like

44:47

helping other people. Yes. Yeah. So

44:50

he's kind of helps

44:52

recap what happened during

44:54

the battle. And yeah, most

44:56

of what he's saying is

44:58

like, kind of reassuring

45:00

people about what went down.

45:03

Right. And then we get

45:05

to the moment we've been

45:08

building towards where Tonks sees

45:10

Bill and Flur and the

45:12

fact that Flur is still

45:14

in love with Bill and

45:16

that they still want to

45:18

get married. And so she comes

45:21

at loop in and like basically

45:23

says like see and he's like

45:25

it's different and then they

45:28

start having this conversation in

45:30

front of everyone and it's

45:32

all suddenly became clear to

45:35

Harry something clunked into place.

45:37

Yeah it was not serious

45:40

loop that Tonks had been

45:42

in love with after all. Yeah.

45:44

and I've told you

45:47

a million times that

45:49

I'm too old for

45:51

you, too poor, too

45:53

dangerous. Um, mmm, that's

45:56

kind of hot. It is

45:58

verboten. Yeah, and

46:00

then Mrs. Wesley starts

46:03

chiming in and so we

46:05

can see them that she's

46:07

known about this all along.

46:09

You're taking a ridiculous line

46:11

on this remis, ridiculous. I've

46:14

said all along. Yeah, and

46:16

this is when she and

46:18

Flora are like hugging as

46:20

she's saying that. And so

46:23

then everybody starts to kind

46:25

of encourage them to get

46:27

together. Professor McGonagall dumbled or

46:29

would have been happier than anybody

46:31

to think there was a little

46:34

more love in the world. And

46:36

after all, Remus, young and whole

46:38

men do not necessarily remain so.

46:40

Oh, sorry, that's Mr. Wesley, not

46:42

Mrs. Meas. But I liked his

46:45

voice there that you did. You

46:47

might have been what he sounded

46:49

like. Yeah. Um, but yeah, everybody's

46:52

kind of, it seems like everybody's

46:54

shipping Tonks and Lupin and they're

46:56

trying to chime in. None of

46:58

the kids are talking, which is

47:01

probably a good thing. You imagine

47:03

if like, Ginny started to try

47:05

to give advice? Ginny was like,

47:08

Tonks has told me, Lupin, how

47:10

much she loves you. realized how

47:12

wrong she was about this whole

47:14

thing. Karani is a little shaken

47:16

to her core right now realizing

47:18

that she was totally off base.

47:21

Yeah. But I think that everybody

47:23

gives a fairly compelling case

47:25

because at Dumbledore's funeral we

47:27

see that they're holding hands.

47:30

I mean these funerals they

47:32

are a great place to

47:34

get together. They are. I've always

47:36

said that. Harry and Ginny also

47:38

had a nice time. crying to

47:40

each other. And well, Ron was stroking

47:42

her body's hair, right? Exactly. All

47:45

right, well, Dumbledore would be happy

47:47

to know there was a little

47:49

more love in the world. Exactly,

47:51

thank you, Minerva. Okay, so that's

47:53

pretty much the end of Lupin's

47:55

arc in the sixth book, and

47:57

so we're not quite done with

47:59

Lupin. and we'll have at least

48:02

one more week to properly

48:04

eulogize him for real sadly.

48:06

But we're at kind of a happy

48:08

point that we'll leave off and I

48:10

guess we do need to rate him

48:12

now. I don't know if it's changed

48:15

has it? Well that's why I think

48:17

the depth being at four all along

48:19

is a little weird because we do

48:21

have more depth added to him

48:23

this book. I guess not that much

48:26

though. Yeah I mean the whole thing with

48:28

tongs. Yeah, and him being

48:30

underground, I think he's gotten

48:32

a little more depth, but okay,

48:35

fine. Yeah. Keep him at the

48:37

same. Five for heart, two for

48:39

humor, four for uniqueness, and four

48:42

for depth. Yeah. So, 15 points

48:44

for loopin. Seems about

48:47

right. Maybe next book, his

48:49

depth will go up one. Yeah.

48:51

Yeah. Once he's dead. I was

48:53

going to say, once he leaves

48:56

Tonks and then goes back to

48:58

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