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1:36

Ron Weasley, part 6.5.

1:38

May I have your

1:41

attention please? Will the

1:43

real weird sisters please

1:45

stand up? We're gonna have a

1:47

problem here. We're the weird sisters. We're

1:49

the real weird sisters. All you are,

1:52

the weird sisters are fine. We're not

1:54

the victors. Will the real weird sisters?

1:56

Please stand up. Please stand up. Hi

1:58

and welcome to the real weird.

2:00

sisters. I'm Martha and I'm Alice

2:02

and we're here with our final

2:04

six book, Ron, conversation, talking about

2:06

Ron and a lot of other

2:09

characters slash concepts. I can't believe

2:11

we're here already. It's gone so

2:13

fast. Yeah, it feels like just

2:15

yesterday that we were sitting down

2:17

to talk about Ron in the

2:19

fourth book. Just yesterday. Just like

2:22

three months ago. Just a few

2:24

short months ago, we were starting

2:26

this conversation. Exactly. Yeah, so this

2:28

is, like I said, kind of

2:30

a little buffet of characters we'll

2:32

be talking about here. We have

2:35

Percy, Mrs. Weasley, Fred and George,

2:37

which you know, kind of all

2:39

goes together, but I wanted to

2:41

separate the family members because it's

2:43

kind of a different plot with

2:46

each of them. We have the

2:48

Hogwarts ghosts, ghosts, and filch. And

2:50

we have Luna, Hagrid, and then

2:52

just kind of Ron's role in

2:54

the final battle of this book.

2:56

Yeah, so sounds like a marvelous

2:58

buffet, so step on up and

3:01

get yourself a plate. All you

3:03

can eat for the next 45

3:05

to 50 minutes. And it's free,

3:07

unless you want to be a

3:09

patron. Exactly. Okay, so let's start

3:11

now with the talk about Percy,

3:13

because this is probably one of

3:15

our, I mean, this plot with

3:18

Ron and Percy in this book,

3:20

it's a little bit different from

3:22

Ron and Percy in last book.

3:24

There was more of it last

3:26

book, because that was when Percy

3:28

had kind of. made the surprise

3:30

change and now it's just kind

3:32

of it's the second year of

3:35

Percy being estranged from the family

3:37

But it's kind of interesting to

3:39

see the way that Ron talks

3:41

about Percy because he Has this

3:43

sort of like the resentment's not

3:45

even the right word. It's sort

3:47

of between resentment and hatred like

3:50

he really really does not like

3:52

what Percy's done and it's very

3:54

clear that he has no sort

3:56

of empathy or anything for him

3:58

not that he should Yeah,

4:01

like you said, it's not as

4:03

much of like a novel thing

4:05

in this book, but it's like

4:07

they've all kind of like settled

4:09

into knowing that this is how

4:11

Percy is and Yeah, that I

4:13

think has kind of turned into

4:15

this like strong resentment like you

4:17

said. Yeah, exactly. Kind of an

4:19

interesting thing here because Hermione does

4:21

take a little bit of more

4:23

of a not it not exactly

4:26

Empathetic but like a little bit

4:28

more kind way of looking at

4:30

it because the first time that

4:32

Harry mentions Percy he asked if

4:34

he's talking to the Weasley's yet

4:36

and Ron says nope and Harry

4:38

but he knows your dad was

4:40

right all along now about Voldemort

4:42

being back and then her money.

4:44

Dumboldore says people find it far

4:46

easier to forgive others for being

4:48

wrong than being right. I heard

4:50

him telling your mom Ron that

4:52

Ron sounds like the sort of

4:54

mental thing Dumbledore would say so

4:57

he doesn't really seem to take.

4:59

to what her mind is saying

5:01

at all, which I think is

5:03

a pretty good point that she

5:05

says. Yeah, I think it's like,

5:07

I think that that is probably

5:09

accurate. It's hard for Percy to

5:11

come forward. It's not that he's

5:13

necessarily forgiving them for being right,

5:15

but I guess it's more like

5:17

he would have to admit that

5:19

he was wrong. So, but I

5:21

mean, I think that that's correct.

5:23

Like that's pretty hard to to

5:25

like get the... fortitude to do

5:28

that and yeah I mean it

5:30

is totally on Percy too to

5:32

do it because it's not like

5:34

the Weasley family is going to

5:36

be like well now that you

5:38

know we were right we'd be

5:40

happy to welcome you home like

5:42

they would have been happy to

5:44

welcome him home anytime I think

5:46

that Percy knows that yeah exactly

5:48

but yeah that's part of what

5:50

makes this book a little bit

5:52

weird with Percy because the ministry

5:54

is not like you know standing

5:56

against I mean there's there's sort

5:59

of a rivalry or a sort

6:01

of a competition between who's like

6:03

doing things their approach is correct

6:05

between Dumbledore's side and the ministry,

6:07

but it's not the same as

6:09

it isn't the fifth book. Right.

6:11

Yeah, so then we have this

6:13

scene at Christmas when Percy shows

6:15

up. And we don't see a

6:17

ton with Ron and him, but

6:19

we see after the fact that

6:21

Ron is trying to. comfort Mrs.

6:23

Weasley about the situation because she's

6:25

like, you know, in tears and

6:27

she's been crying on and off

6:30

and we just have Ron saying,

6:32

like, don't worry about us or

6:34

about Percy, such a prat, it's

6:36

not really a loss, is it,

6:38

which doesn't help at all. This

6:40

is Weasley sobbed harder than ever.

6:42

Yeah, I think like, it's very

6:44

typical because it's like, teenage boys,

6:46

I mean, I don't know that

6:48

Ron is a good. you know,

6:50

Ron is pretty accurate as far

6:52

as like your average teenage boy

6:54

and his ability to like comfort

6:56

their mother when they're upset about

6:58

something really complicated. Like, I mean,

7:01

yeah, it's not that easy for

7:03

Mrs. Wiesley. He's, he's such a

7:05

prat, it's not really a loss.

7:07

Yeah, that's, that's exactly what Mrs.

7:09

Wiesley's feeling, I'm sure. Right, right.

7:11

I don't think that that's the

7:13

thing she wants to hear. It

7:15

is interesting though that, that, We

7:17

do have the summary of how

7:19

Percy, like, stormed from the house

7:21

with his glasses splottered with mashed

7:23

parsnip. But it says that that

7:25

was from Fred George and Ginny,

7:27

so Ron was not one of

7:29

the parsnip throwers. Yeah, that's interesting

7:32

because I think it is kind

7:34

of typical of Ron to kind

7:36

of be a little bit less

7:38

like confrontational than. Ginny Fred and

7:40

George are a lot more feisty.

7:42

Right, exactly. Exactly. But yeah, kind

7:44

of interesting that the, like, that

7:46

was pretty much, he was either

7:48

doing it or like, I don't

7:50

know, like his him and Bill

7:52

are the two siblings who didn't

7:54

do anything. Well, he was trying

7:56

to be cool, like Bill. I

7:58

guess, I guess so. Yeah, not

8:00

too. Olaf. It's just not cool.

8:03

I can't snap my fingers. It's

8:05

just not cool. Yeah, exactly. Good,

8:07

good reference. The two listeners will

8:09

get. So yeah, not too much

8:11

more with Percy, except for when

8:13

we get to the Dumboldor's funeral

8:15

sequence, we have like, Percy's there

8:17

and he's with scrimmures entourage. It

8:19

says Harry spotted the red hair

8:21

and horned rim glasses of Percy

8:23

Wednesday. Ron gave no sign that

8:25

he was aware of Percy apart

8:27

from stabbing pieces of Kippo with

8:29

unwanted venom. Right. So, I mean,

8:31

this is typical Ron as well

8:34

because, you know, again, he's. frequently

8:36

able to like sort of pretend

8:38

like he's not mad about something

8:40

but you know you can tell

8:42

by his actions that he is

8:44

upset. Right. And yeah, I do

8:46

have to say that that on

8:48

stabbing pieces of Kippa with unwanted

8:50

vellum is a phrase that like

8:52

really stuck in my head since

8:54

I read this the first time.

8:56

I learned the word unwanted spelled

8:58

like that, which I thought was

9:00

a really cool word. Yeah, for

9:02

anybody who's not following along with

9:05

the textbook, it's with an oh,

9:07

just to be clear. Well, yeah,

9:09

I would say unwanted if it

9:11

was. But you're also speaking in

9:13

Jim Dale accent, so it's not

9:15

totally clear how you would say

9:17

it But yeah, I think that

9:19

that phrase really stuck in my

9:21

head that the stabbing your food

9:23

with unwanted venom like I think

9:25

I probably included that sort of

9:27

phrase in like creative writing stories.

9:29

I had the Duke for school

9:31

and stuff, probably. But yeah, last,

9:33

last moment with Ron and Percy

9:36

here is going to be at

9:38

the end of the, after the

9:40

funeral, after, after Harry really gives

9:42

Scrimger a piece of his mind.

9:44

Release San Sean Pike, yet? Oh,

9:46

that's good. That's the hill that

9:48

Harry's dying on. But yeah, Ron

9:50

is like, look, let me go

9:52

back and hit Percy. It'll make

9:54

me feel better. So, it's kind

9:56

of goofy. It's like, yeah, as

9:58

if Ron's gonna go and hit

10:00

Percy, well, he didn't even have

10:02

the courage to throw mashed pasta

10:04

at his glasses. Well, that's not

10:06

cool. Cool. Yeah, no, I think,

10:09

I think. This is like also

10:11

a typical rod of like, A,

10:13

it's a little bit of comic

10:15

relief because it's like the way

10:17

he's saying it. It'll make me

10:19

feel better. It's like funny, you

10:21

know, but it's, yeah, it's not.

10:23

really what he probably would do.

10:25

He wouldn't have done that. I

10:27

mean, I know, you know, I

10:29

think it's, it's funny, but it

10:31

just is like, yeah, right, Ron.

10:33

Yeah. But I mean, you can't

10:35

blame Harry for being upset about

10:37

Stan Sean Pike. He and Stan

10:40

got to be very close in

10:42

that one ride they had on

10:44

the bus. Yeah. I mean to

10:46

be honest like I'm sure probably

10:48

some people are like oh that

10:50

is important and it is like

10:52

important that they're locking up innocent

10:54

people but it's always so like

10:56

okay Harry. Right. Release Stanchon Pike

10:58

yet? Yeah and scrims are to

11:00

turn the nasty shade of purple.

11:02

It's also kind of random because

11:04

it's like. It seems weird that

11:06

like the Minister of Magic would

11:08

like immediately know everybody who's locked

11:11

up in Askeban by name. That

11:13

seems actually pretty on brand for

11:15

the Wizarding World to be honest.

11:17

Yeah, that's true. Surprised Dan wasn't

11:19

sentenced straight to death. Yeah, true.

11:21

Said straight to the whatever that

11:23

room is. Yeah, or has gotten

11:25

the... Dementor's kiss straight off the

11:27

bat. That's right. But yeah, so

11:29

that's pretty much it. I did

11:31

that I was going to say

11:33

like I do think that the

11:35

moment of Ron and Percy here

11:37

like I think that if anybody

11:39

had like said to Percy in

11:42

the moment like something about like

11:44

trying to forgive each other I

11:46

feel like I don't know that

11:48

not it's it's sad and it's

11:50

tragic that the fact that this

11:52

is just such a like unfinished

11:54

like it takes so long for

11:56

the family to reconcile. And that's

11:58

just how it is, I guess.

12:00

But I do think that if

12:02

somebody had just said something, like

12:04

it could have, like, Percy wasn't

12:06

gonna be the one to say

12:08

it, but if somebody had just

12:10

approached him and said, like, glad

12:13

you're here or something, like, I

12:15

think that that could have. Yeah,

12:17

a little bit of a prodigal

12:19

son moment. Yeah. I don't know.

12:21

I think you could be right.

12:23

Like I was kind of thinking

12:25

about this as we, I know

12:27

this isn't a Percy character study

12:29

character study. Well, to be honest,

12:31

I don't remember if we've done

12:33

that or not yet. I think

12:35

we have. But I feel like

12:37

Percy, yeah, he's just, it's too

12:39

bad that it takes so long.

12:41

It kind of makes me wonder,

12:44

like, why, what is he waiting

12:46

for at this point? But I

12:48

think he just has to kind

12:50

of like, get the gumption to

12:52

just be the, to admit he

12:54

was wrong. Yeah, it's strange to

12:56

me that Mr. Mrs. Weasley, aren't

12:58

at Dumbledore at Dumbledore's funeral, I

13:00

guess, I guess it's just so

13:02

dangerous. It's just so dangerous. It's

13:04

just so dangerous. It's just so

13:06

dangerous. Or like, you know, Bill

13:08

probably could have done this, like,

13:10

hey, little, bro, you know? I'm

13:12

not saying it should have been

13:15

wrong to do it, but I

13:17

just think that if somebody had

13:19

said something to Percy here, it

13:21

could have maybe worked. Right, right.

13:23

Yeah. Okay, well, back to the

13:25

beginning. I'm gonna rewind. This is

13:27

actually a pretty brief little section

13:29

to talk about. This is Mrs.

13:31

Wesley and Ron. We just have

13:33

two main scenes that I wanted

13:35

to talk about. We already talked

13:37

about the one where... Ron's quote

13:39

unquote comforting her. But we have

13:41

two scenes with Mrs. Weasley and

13:43

Ron before they go to Hogwarts.

13:46

The first one is when they

13:48

get their owl scores. And Mrs.

13:50

Weasley is very proud of Ron

13:52

and Ruffles Ron's hair. And she

13:54

says that that's more than Fred

13:56

and George got together. So it's

13:58

like, I do feel like Mrs.

14:00

Weasley and I know it's not

14:02

a Mrs. Weasley character study, but

14:04

like her constant comparing the brothers

14:06

to one another. You can see

14:08

why Ron has some in some

14:10

insecurities. Exactly, that's exactly what I

14:12

was thinking. Like, the fact that

14:14

that's the way she compliments them,

14:17

like, her compliments him, like, I

14:19

know that's kind of just how

14:21

she does things and they're used

14:23

to it, but like, you can

14:25

kind of see how it's done

14:27

a number on them. Like, let's

14:29

put this for instance. our SAT

14:31

scores. Well, actually, okay, let's say

14:33

ACT because I never even took

14:35

the ACT, but I'm guessing that

14:37

if I had taken the ACT,

14:39

I probably would have got a

14:41

little bit lower score than you

14:43

just because I never did as

14:45

much math as you and all

14:48

of that. So I probably would

14:50

have gotten like a couple points

14:52

lower than you. Can you imagine

14:54

if mom had been like, that's

14:56

better than Alice? Yeah, no, she

14:58

never would have said something like

15:00

that. Like if anything like I

15:02

always kind of wondered like I

15:04

never knew whether I was doing

15:06

any better than you did or

15:08

any worse than you did because

15:10

I never knew yeah exactly she

15:12

never brought it up I mean

15:14

that she's you know model parent

15:16

or whatever but like truly like

15:19

I have no idea how my

15:21

grades I mean I do now

15:23

from talking to you but like

15:25

in high school and The only

15:27

thing mom would ever sometimes say,

15:29

this is a little bit Mrs.

15:31

Weesleyish, I guess, she would sometimes

15:33

say that I was more inclined

15:35

towards math than you were, like

15:37

you just said. Well, I just

15:39

didn't take math as much as

15:41

you did. Yeah. Like, I enjoyed

15:43

math a little bit more than

15:45

you too. Like, that's part of

15:47

why. Like, I think that she

15:50

kind of was like, and she

15:52

liked that I liked it because

15:54

she loves math, so, and I

15:56

didn't even like it at. hated

15:58

math but you complained about it

16:00

a lot. Well yeah it was

16:02

boring. I would say like oh

16:04

this is kind of fun about

16:06

like algebra and stuff so she

16:08

she did think that that was

16:10

just her heart grew two sizes.

16:12

Well she liked I do think

16:14

you did a bit better than

16:16

me at some of some of

16:18

some of school. due to various

16:21

factors, but yeah, our mom would

16:23

always kind of, I can you,

16:25

I can't even imagine, like I

16:27

feel like that would have really

16:29

done a number on you if

16:31

she had been like, if you

16:33

had constantly been thinking if you

16:35

had to measure up to me

16:37

or not. Right, I mean, I

16:39

already did that myself, like without

16:41

even having any reason to, just

16:43

like. It was in my head

16:45

about it. So yeah, it was

16:47

never anything that our parents were

16:49

putting on us. Yeah, so yeah,

16:52

model parents or whatever. Whatever, yeah.

16:54

Yeah, we have good parents or

16:56

whatever, but. Back

16:58

to Mrs. Weasley here, the other

17:00

moment with Mrs. Weasley and Ron

17:02

that I wanted to mention is

17:04

when Mrs. Weasley does a little

17:07

bit of discipline on Ron, he

17:09

like kind of gets a little

17:11

bit too fresh with her. She's

17:13

really worried about security and diagonally

17:15

and. He's saying that she's, or

17:18

she's saying she won't go into

17:20

Diagon Alley without Mr. Weasley, which

17:22

I'm like, okay, is it because

17:24

he's a man or is it

17:26

like you want to have two

17:29

adults? I'm not sure what, what

17:31

the logic there is, but, oh,

17:33

it's, do you honestly think, you

17:35

know who's going to be hiding

17:38

behind a bookshelf and flourish and

17:40

blops? And Mrs. Weesley snaps, all

17:42

of Andrew and on holiday, did

17:44

they, if you think securities, I

17:46

mean to be honest like I'm

17:49

totally on team Mrs. Weasley here.

17:51

Yes that would be such an

17:53

annoying response to get for the

17:55

little 13 or 16 year old.

17:57

He's like yeah he's like I

18:00

want to go see Fred and

18:02

George's shop and she's like well

18:04

you just buck up. your ideas

18:06

young man before I decide you're

18:09

too immature to come with us.

18:11

That goes for returning to Hogwarts

18:13

as well. I'm like good for

18:15

her honestly because Ron's getting a

18:17

little too fresh like I said.

18:20

Yeah he has been fresh as

18:22

paint lately. Yeah exactly. It's very

18:24

typical, again, like, teenage boy and

18:26

their mother, because, like, you can't

18:28

even make a joke around here

18:31

anymore. Like, that's, like, even last

18:33

year, like, or, you know, all

18:35

of Ron's life, it's kind of

18:37

in that way. So I don't

18:40

know why he's actually like, this

18:42

is something new. Yeah, it's, it's

18:44

very typical, again, like, like, teenage

18:46

boy and their mother, because, like,

18:48

like, here's Ron thinking that he's

18:51

so worried about. their family's safety

18:53

and she has a much more

18:55

like comprehensive understanding of the situation

18:57

than he does. Ron's like well

18:59

I fought death he does at

19:02

the Department of Mysteries mom I

19:04

think I can handle diagonally yeah

19:06

exactly yeah no I am on

19:08

team mrs weasley here as well

19:11

and I think sometimes it's good

19:13

for kids to hear a tone

19:15

like that it's not like she's

19:17

like you know being like mean

19:19

here she's just being pretty harsh

19:22

and like stern yeah exactly and

19:24

like just to impress the seriousness

19:26

of the situation upon him yeah

19:28

yeah but Ron was careful not

19:30

to be flipped around Voldemort over

19:33

the next few days well I

19:35

don't know that you should be

19:37

flippant about Voldemort ever so not

19:39

a day dawned without any more

19:42

outburst from Mrs. Weasley though she

19:44

seemed very tense at breakfast Well,

19:46

you can see why she's worried

19:48

about taking her kids to a

19:50

hot spot of death eater activity.

19:53

Right, exactly. So then moving on

19:55

to the Fred and George stuff

19:57

we have here. So they go

19:59

to Diagon Alley and of course

20:01

Mrs. Weasley is dumbfounded at the

20:04

words you know poo with helping.

20:06

They'll be murdered in their beds!

20:08

Oh, she's whispering, so it's more

20:10

like, not quite like that, no,

20:13

no, they won't, this is brilliant.

20:15

And again, why does Ron think

20:17

he knows, not that, I mean,

20:19

it is, I think it's funny,

20:21

but like, why is Ron so

20:24

sure that no, they won't? Yeah,

20:26

like, he just is so like,

20:28

in awe, Fred of George's wit.

20:30

Yeah. But yeah, I think that

20:32

this scene of Fred and Jordan,

20:35

Ron in Weez's, Wizard, Weez is

20:37

pretty funny. We have, you know,

20:39

Rod, assuming he's going to get

20:41

all this free stuff and then

20:44

Fred and George putting them in

20:46

this place. This is very you

20:48

and me. Who's who? Yeah, if

20:50

I opened a joke shop, you'd

20:52

know I'd be giving you lots

20:55

of free stuff, but... Well, yeah,

20:57

you're my younger sister. If you

20:59

opened a joke shop, I would

21:01

be paying for everything. You'd be

21:03

paying full price. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,

21:06

so it's funny of course he's

21:08

like of course Harry you get

21:10

anything you want for free. That

21:12

of course that's I mean it's

21:15

like it's pretty rude because Fred

21:17

and George know Harry could pay

21:19

for anything he wants to. Right,

21:21

right. Not can't afford anything. Right

21:23

and you think like maybe he

21:26

could get a little bit of

21:28

a family discount. Right. I mean

21:30

I get not not getting it

21:32

for free but I think like

21:35

you know for Jenny they probably

21:37

would give a family discount. Yeah,

21:39

probably. Yeah, so I mean there's

21:41

that's the main plot with Fred

21:43

and George and Ron here in

21:46

this, uh, we as a wizard,

21:48

we see Ron just being like

21:50

a little bit presumptuous about his,

21:52

what he's gonna get for free.

21:54

Yeah. And again, like Fred and

21:57

George just aren't super nice to

21:59

him. I mean, they're not like,

22:01

mean, but they definitely razz him

22:03

a lot and they put him

22:06

in his place frequently. I don't

22:08

know why Ron wasn't expecting that.

22:10

That's how their relationship has always

22:12

been. Exactly. This is Weasley, unfortunately,

22:14

has to spot Ron making a

22:17

rude hand gesture. That again, I'll

22:19

jinks your fingers together. That'd fix

22:21

it. Yeah, exactly. So then, yeah,

22:23

next scene with Fred and George

22:25

with Ron is at Christmas, and

22:28

it's when Harry and Ron have

22:30

to peel all those potatoes. And

22:32

Fred and George are being obnoxious

22:34

because they're like talking about how

22:37

they can. go, you know, they

22:39

would be able to just peel

22:41

all those potatoes without, are we

22:43

using magic and it'd be done

22:45

in a minute? Or sprouts, sorry,

22:48

not all, not just potatoes. But

22:50

yeah, then Fred and George start

22:52

interrogating Ron about lavender and Ron,

22:54

it's as if he did not

22:56

look displeased as he turned back

22:59

to the sprouts. Mind your own

23:01

business. Yeah, he's like, he's like

23:03

kind of smirking. Yeah. Got it.

23:05

He feel I think he's very

23:08

pleased that they're like, you know,

23:10

gonna hear about his his new

23:12

game that he's got. Yeah. And

23:14

that Fred and George are being

23:16

pretty rude. They're like, we're just

23:19

wondering, how did it happen? Did

23:21

she have an accident or something?

23:23

How did she exchange such such

23:25

extensive brain damage? That's when Ron

23:27

throws a knife in red. It

23:30

also does correct. no magic because

23:32

yeah they turned the knife into

23:34

a paper airplane but that could

23:36

have been pretty serious and he

23:39

turns it into the paper airplane

23:41

with a one lazy flick of

23:43

his wand um they really know

23:45

how to grade on Ron yeah

23:47

I also love how like you

23:50

already mentioned this but when when

23:52

they're like ah George look at

23:54

this bless them they're using knives

23:56

and everything it's like They're so

23:58

like condescending it's hilarious. Right. Yeah,

24:01

it's very character building stuff learning

24:03

the peal sprouts. without magic makes

24:05

you appreciate how difficult it is

24:07

for mumbles and squibs. It's just

24:10

also like, it feels very like.

24:12

the teenager who can drive making

24:14

fun of their younger sibling who

24:16

is like stuck at the house

24:18

or has to ride their bike

24:21

or whatever. I think we've made

24:23

that comparison. Yeah, absolutely accurate. Yeah,

24:25

that Fred and George are off

24:27

to the Muggle Village. There's a

24:29

very pretty girl there who thinks

24:32

my car tricks are something marvelous.

24:34

Oh, almost like real magic. Sounds

24:36

awesome. Sounds so fantastic. Sounds marvelous.

24:38

Yeah, exactly. Ron, oh, would have

24:41

only taken them 10 seconds and

24:43

then we could have gone too.

24:45

Harry, I couldn't. I promised Dumbledaw,

24:47

I wouldn't wander off while I'm

24:49

staying here. Way to be a

24:52

kill joy, Harry. Seriously. Since when

24:54

did he get to be such

24:56

a rule follower? It's when does

24:58

he do everything Dumbledore says? Exactly.

25:00

Well, goody, two shoes, teacher's pet.

25:03

Right. I couldn. Got

25:05

it. Well, nobody really invited

25:08

you anyway, Harry. Exactly. Muggle

25:10

girl has enough on her

25:12

hands that just the two...

25:14

Harry's too busy thinking about

25:17

that muggle girl from the

25:19

train station. She was very

25:21

pretty, Harry. She was very

25:24

pretty, Harry. We have one

25:26

last scene with Fred and

25:28

George and Ron and that's

25:31

when Ron's in the hospital

25:33

after getting poisoned and Fred

25:35

and George are, they're being

25:38

a little bit toolly here

25:40

because they were in, they

25:42

were in, uh, Hogsmead thinking

25:45

of buying Zonko's. I suspect

25:47

it's a Zonko's product. And

25:49

they're like, there we were

25:52

sitting in Hogsmead, planning to

25:54

surprise him. Like, well, they

25:56

were, they were just gonna

25:59

be sitting there. The Hawksmeade

26:01

visit had been canceled, right?

26:03

Oh yeah, I think you're

26:05

right. I forgot about that. But

26:07

nobody passed the word along to

26:10

Fred and George, I guess. The

26:12

Zonco's owners didn't bother to let

26:14

them know. I bet Zonco's. is

26:16

very upset anytime Hogwarts has to

26:18

cancel a hawksme day. That's when

26:20

they make, that's when they make

26:22

a good like half of their

26:24

income for the year. Right, probably

26:26

like a good 30, three quarters

26:29

of their income. Yeah, because who

26:31

else goes to Zanko's besides Hogwarts

26:33

students. I mean, the other Hawks

26:35

meet Brent, or business owners, I

26:37

guess. They're just joke shops, they're

26:39

just, they're just killing with all

26:41

ages. A fat lot of good,

26:43

it'll be if you lot are

26:45

allowed out at weekends to buy

26:48

our stuff anymore. Well, yeah, exactly,

26:50

Fred knows. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,

26:52

exactly. But yeah, it's nice that

26:54

Fred and George do visit Ron,

26:56

and they do seem pretty caring

26:58

here at this scene. Yeah, I mean, I

27:00

think that it shows like their

27:02

actions do speak louder than some

27:04

of their words. I think that's

27:07

why they sometimes overcompensate with all

27:09

the comic relief because they're like,

27:11

we can't admit that we really

27:13

do care about him. Right. It's funny

27:15

though, it's kind of a weird, I mean,

27:17

I guess this is kind of there for

27:19

the reader, but to have friends like, do

27:22

mom and dad know? Like, yeah, I

27:24

think they do since you guys

27:26

know, like, like, like, I should

27:28

hope that the parents were notified.

27:30

I bet they're like, yeah, they're

27:32

all, they've already seen him. They're,

27:34

they're in a bulldoze office now.

27:36

It's like, why do friend and

27:39

George not know that? Yeah, it's

27:41

kind of a contrived conversation so

27:43

that we can get the background

27:45

of the author giving us information

27:47

through dialogue. Yeah, subtly done. Yeah,

27:49

super subtly done. Okay, so that's

27:51

about it for Ron and his

27:53

family members. Now we've got the

27:55

remainder of the buffet. So back to...

27:58

Chapter. or something like

28:00

that. Really? Yep. Yep. Okay, I

28:03

was wrong. Chapter nine. Oh, gotta

28:05

go back a little bit more.

28:07

No wait, it's actually chapter eight.

28:10

Thank you, okay. So we, this

28:12

is three different miscellaneous characters here.

28:14

It was originally just Hogwarts Ghost,

28:17

but then I realized Filch didn't

28:19

fit anywhere. So it's Hogwarts Ghost

28:21

and Filch. So Nicholas Filch and

28:23

Myrtle, there's quite the unlikely trio.

28:26

Yeah, um, Kiss Mary Kill, uh,

28:28

Sir Nicholas. Oh, we should. Hmm.

28:30

I think I would have to,

28:33

I think it's pretty obvious. Yeah,

28:35

Kiss Myrtle, Mary Nick and Kill

28:37

Filch. Yeah, although, Mary and Nick

28:39

sounds positively costly. Kissing Myrtle sounds

28:42

positively costly too. And I mean.

28:44

The problem is if you kill

28:46

either Nicholas or Myrtle, it doesn't

28:49

really do anything for you. Yeah,

28:51

they're already dead. So the only

28:53

one you can benefit from killing

28:55

is filge. Yeah, and I mean,

28:58

Aria Stark already took care of

29:00

that for us. Ooh, oh, spoiler

29:02

alert. True. So yeah, Nick is

29:05

being kind of a know-at-all. Ron

29:07

and Harry, Ron and Hermione are

29:09

telling Harry about how a lot

29:11

of people on the train wanted

29:14

to know if Harry was really

29:16

the chosen one, Nicholas, or Nicholas

29:18

interrupts. There has been much talk

29:21

on that very subject, even amongst

29:23

the ghosts. I am considered something

29:25

of a potter authority. It is

29:27

widely known that we are friendly.

29:30

I have assured... spirit community that

29:32

I will not pester you for

29:34

information, however. Harry Potter knows that

29:37

he can confide in me with

29:39

complete confidence, I told them. I

29:41

would rather die than betray his

29:43

trust. It does crack me up

29:46

so much how he's being because

29:48

it's like so clearly like trying

29:50

to get this from Barry. So

29:53

I mean, then we're on. That's

29:55

not saying much, seeing as you're

29:57

already dead. Once again, you show

29:59

all the sensitivity of a blunt

30:02

axe. And Nick is very, yeah.

30:04

Double meaning, because you know, that

30:06

blunt axe is why he's nearly

30:09

headless. Yeah, he's, he knows, he

30:11

knows all about blunt axis. Yes,

30:13

exactly. So yeah, that's that's our

30:15

Nick moment. But it is kind

30:18

of funny how at this point,

30:20

Rod and Nick do kind of

30:22

have a little bit of a

30:25

rivalry. Quite a bit. Boys have

30:27

rivalries. Yeah, exactly. I think this

30:29

is why I put these three

30:31

together because it's all instances of

30:34

Ron being cheeky with people. So

30:36

he's being rude to Sir Nicholas

30:38

and that he's cheeky with filch.

30:41

This is when they're going to

30:43

Hawksmead and it's actually when they're

30:45

coming, well, they're going to Hawksmead

30:47

for their first visit and filtches.

30:50

triple checking everybody with his secrecy

30:52

sensor. And Rod's like, what does

30:54

it matter if we're smuggling dark

30:57

stuff out? Surely you ought to

30:59

be checking what we bring in.

31:01

His cheek and with a few

31:03

extra jabs with the sensor and

31:06

he was still wincing as they

31:08

stepped out into the wind and

31:10

sleet. Filch, cosplaying as a TSA

31:13

agent. Right, except for this is

31:15

kind of back to his like,

31:17

you know, capital punishment that he

31:19

likes. Yeah, jabbing the students with

31:22

the secrecy sensor. So hard that

31:24

he's wincing from it. Yeah. Like

31:26

I said, cosplaying as TSA. Yeah.

31:29

And then final, final ghost slash

31:31

rod being rude moment is with

31:33

Myrtle. And this is a little

31:35

bit, you know, has different meaning

31:38

knowing that Myrtle is talking about

31:40

Draco and the second Semper thing

31:42

is about to happen and all

31:45

that. But. Myrtle sees it's Ron

31:47

and Harry in the bathroom and

31:49

she's disappointed because She was expecting

31:51

someone else He said he'd come

31:54

back and see me, but that

31:56

you said and pop in and

31:58

visit me too. And I haven't

32:01

seen you for months and months.

32:03

I've learned not to expect too

32:05

much from boys. Yeah. And then

32:07

they're kind of going back and

32:10

forth and Harry's also being a

32:12

little bit rude because he's like,

32:14

I thought you lived in a

32:17

girl's bathroom. And then we've been

32:19

careful to give the place a

32:21

wide berth for some years now.

32:23

That doesn't mean I can't visit

32:26

other places. I came and saw

32:28

you in your bath once, remember?

32:30

Harry. still lamenting things and says

32:33

that they had lots in common.

32:35

And then Ron, when you say

32:37

you had lots in common, do

32:39

you mean he all, he lives

32:42

in an Espen too? I mean,

32:44

he's sensitive. People bully him too

32:46

and he feels lonely and hasn't

32:49

got anybody to talk to and

32:51

he's not afraid to show his

32:53

feelings and cry. And then Ron

32:55

gets to do another. Jab at

32:58

her for being dead because she

33:00

says I promised I wouldn't tell

33:02

anyone and I'll take his secret

33:05

to that Not the grave surely

33:07

the sewers maybe I have to

33:09

admit that's pretty funny. Yeah, the

33:11

goading Myrtle seemed to have put

33:14

fresh heart into Ron You're right.

33:16

I'll do the practice sessions and

33:18

hogs meat before I decide about

33:21

taking the test about apparition They

33:23

went into this bathroom because Ron

33:25

was like all disappointed and being

33:27

like down on himself about how

33:30

bad he is at apparition. This

33:32

cheered him up. Yeah, I mean,

33:34

bullying someone will do that for

33:37

you. Right. Yep. That's a good

33:39

lesson for us all. It's a

33:41

great lesson. Yeah. So we've got

33:43

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next person's kind of speaking about,

36:12

speaking of bullying. The next plot

36:14

is Ron and Luna. And this

36:16

is not exactly a, I mean,

36:18

he is kind of, there's some

36:21

mean moments with Ron here, but

36:23

it actually does kind of have

36:25

a bit of a. He has

36:27

a little bit of an arc

36:29

here, a little bit of growth.

36:31

So, first of all, Ron, this

36:33

is in the whole plot with

36:35

Harry asking Luna to the Christmas

36:37

party, and this is, you know,

36:39

post, post canaries and post lavender

36:42

make out session, first one, all

36:44

of that. So, Luna, actually, the

36:46

reason that Harry bumps into her

36:48

is because she had been comforting

36:50

her mini in the bathroom after

36:52

the whole handlebar mustache and... cruel

36:54

but accurate impression of her mind.

36:56

And so it's kind of interesting

36:58

because Luna and Ron like I

37:00

mean I know that they are

37:03

not friends exactly but like they

37:05

did oh they are friends friends

37:07

yeah yeah exactly exactly like she

37:09

describes him as that Ron weasley

37:11

she said something about that Ron

37:13

weasley like the one of six

37:15

people that she went to the

37:17

ministry with last year one of

37:19

your people you have painted on

37:21

your wall at home okay I

37:24

don't think she has that painting

37:26

yet do you well I mean

37:28

there's not that much time between

37:30

yeah I mean maybe she does

37:32

it at the end of this

37:34

school year or I was thinking

37:36

she could do it at any

37:38

point during because she might have

37:40

painted it at Hogwarts and brought

37:42

it home with her. But isn't

37:44

it like on your wall though?

37:47

Like it's like, well, yeah, I'm

37:49

just, oh, I don't, I don't

37:51

remember. It's, it's, it's, it's definitely

37:53

like a mural. Yeah, I thought

37:55

it was like a ceiling and

37:57

wall mural. Yeah, friends, friends. Yeah.

37:59

Okay. But yeah, like that rod

38:01

was, you mean, just say that,

38:03

she said something about rod, like,

38:05

like, yeah. Whatever. Then Harry, yeah,

38:08

they've had a row. He says

38:10

very funny things sometimes, doesn't he?

38:12

But he can be a bit

38:14

unkind. I noticed that last year.

38:16

Harry, I suppose. He doesn't want

38:18

to say anything. He's too loyal.

38:20

Luna had a, sorry. Luna was

38:22

demonstrating her usual knack of speaking

38:24

uncomfortable truths. He had never met

38:26

anyone quite like her. Like

38:30

I guess that's kind of Harry

38:32

admitting she's right by saying yeah,

38:35

Harry kind of knows He kind

38:37

of knows that Ron can be

38:39

a bit mean sometimes like the

38:42

whole the whole? Cruel, but exactly

38:44

Her mind is crying about it.

38:46

It's pretty clear that that was

38:49

pretty he or pretty unkind It

38:51

was cruel. It was actually quite

38:53

cruel. Yeah, exactly Luna, I mean,

38:56

honestly, like, she's speaking an uncomfortable

38:58

truth, but she's doing it in

39:01

a quite diplomatic way, because she's

39:03

being nice to Ron, too, like

39:05

giving him credit for being funny,

39:08

but then saying, like, he can

39:10

be a bit unkind. That's pretty

39:12

tactful. Yeah, exactly. A bit unkind

39:15

is, like, the nicest way of

39:17

saying that. And then Ron, speaking

39:19

of being a bit unkind, he's,

39:22

I think he has like this

39:24

like fresh, fresh security, fake security

39:26

in him because of lavender. And

39:29

he's like, you could have taken

39:31

anyone and you chose Looney Lovegood.

39:33

So rude. No, he could, he's,

39:36

he can, he says some very

39:38

funny things sometimes, but he can

39:40

be a bit unkind. I noticed

39:43

that last year. Yeah, Harry. Arjun.

39:45

I'm really glad you're taking her

39:48

Harry. She's so excited. She's so

39:50

excited. Harry tried to feel pleased

39:52

that he was glad he was

39:55

taking lunar to the party and

39:57

he could not quite matter. It's

39:59

a little bit fun setting the

40:02

way Ginny says it. It is.

40:04

Yeah, it's very like patronizing of

40:06

Fluna and of Harry. Yes, I'm

40:09

really glad you're taking her, Harry.

40:11

She's so excited. Yeah. Okay, Ginny.

40:13

I think we used to be

40:16

a lot nicer to Ginny. Ginny's

40:18

awesome, but she's a little courty

40:20

at times. Exactly. Yeah. So our

40:23

last moment with Ron and Luna,

40:25

Luna, sorry, is actually a nice

40:27

moment because this is after she

40:30

does the commentary for the quiddage

40:32

match. And I guess a lot

40:34

of people have told Luna that

40:37

she did a bad job because

40:39

he says nice commentary last batch

40:42

and then Luna. You're making fun

40:44

of me, aren't you. Everyone says

40:46

I was dreadful. poor Luna I

40:49

know like I feel like that's

40:51

not typical for her to be

40:53

like that self-aware about it like

40:56

I mean I know she yes

40:58

she people steal her shoes or

41:00

whatever but I think that that's

41:03

kind of like this people being

41:05

this honest to her like and

41:07

then her just like assuming that

41:10

everybody's being you know not being

41:12

serious when they tell her a

41:14

good job or whatever yeah that's

41:17

kind of not typical of her

41:19

I feel like yeah agreed But

41:21

then Ron is earnest. He said,

41:24

I can't remember enjoying commentary more.

41:26

And then he asks about the

41:29

onion-like object that was in her

41:31

bag, which is a girdy root.

41:33

And she says you can keep

41:36

it if you like. Ron. You

41:38

know, she's grown on me lunar.

41:40

I know she's insane, but isn't

41:43

a good... That's when Lavender like

41:45

interrupts them. And she's looking thunderous.

41:47

Yeah, I mean it took a

41:50

while, but like you said, there's

41:52

a bit of a growth arc

41:54

here with Ron because he's he's

41:57

started he's grown to understand Luna

41:59

more Yeah, although him calling her

42:01

insane is a little bit rude.

42:03

Yeah, yeah, that's true. But still.

42:06

Yeah, so next plot is gonna

42:08

be Ron and Hagred. And this

42:10

is also a kind of another

42:13

plot of Ron being not the

42:15

like most empathetic person ever. So

42:17

we start off with Hagred at

42:20

when they see each other at

42:22

the feast and. Hagred's coming in

42:24

like he's wind blown and he's

42:26

got held up because he had

42:29

been with Grop lost track of

42:31

the time and says that they

42:33

were having a good chat really

42:36

and he says he's really come

42:38

on yeah'll be amazed I'm thinking

42:40

a train in mop as me

42:42

assisted which causes Ron to snort

42:45

loudly but managed to pass it

42:47

off as a violent sneeze. Yeah

42:49

I'm sure that was super convincing.

42:52

I mean Hagred probably didn't notice.

42:54

Yeah that's true. He was all

42:56

like you're right there Ron? Hagred could

42:58

be a bit oblivious at times. Exactly.

43:00

So then the two of them Ron

43:02

and Harry talk about how the fact

43:04

that you know Hagred thinks that they're

43:07

going to be taking care of magical

43:09

creatures for their first lesson straight after

43:11

lunch. Come early and you can say

43:14

hello to but I mean with a

43:16

wimbs. They're realizing,

43:19

no, you won't see

43:21

us tomorrow. Yeah,

43:23

awkward moments. Right.

43:26

Then Ron is

43:28

pretty like, he's like,

43:30

Basically says like he can't believe

43:33

that Hagrid thinks that he would be

43:35

Taking it like her mind. He's like

43:37

he can't really think we'd continue when

43:39

is any of us expressed any enthusiasm

43:42

and wrong? That's it though. We were

43:44

the ones who made the most effort

43:46

because we like Hagrid, but he thinks

43:48

we like the stupid subject The other

43:50

weird thing about this is like do

43:53

the teachers not get like a class

43:55

roster like the fact that there's literally

43:57

no six years to years to yeah

43:59

like Maybe they need to let

44:01

Hagred know that his work has

44:04

been cut a little bit. So

44:06

he's not like... planning lessons for

44:08

the six years. He already has

44:11

planned lessons. He's depressing about it.

44:13

Yeah, poor haggy. Really dizzy Alice.

44:15

Yeah, that's true. Care of his

44:18

hand and do it cutting down

44:20

more horses. It's important that he

44:22

stay at Hogwarts and lead the

44:24

school. Yeah, those priorities take precedence

44:27

over telling his teachers how many

44:29

students to expect in their classes.

44:31

Yeah, they can figure it out

44:34

when they'll know that they don't

44:36

have any students when they don't.

44:38

have anyone show up to class,

44:41

to clause. Sad to think of

44:43

Hagred planning his lesson. I know,

44:45

it's really depressing. I don't think

44:47

a single sixth year takes it,

44:50

right? No, I'm pretty sure they

44:52

don't. The only one who maybe

44:54

would have taken it is Neville,

44:57

but yeah. Lavender and Provadi would

44:59

have continued if they would have

45:01

been able to have Professor Grubley

45:04

Plank still. Ooh, yes, of course.

45:06

They love her. Unicorns. Yeah, exactly.

45:08

They prefer a woman's touch. Yeah,

45:11

exactly. Yeah, so then we have.

45:13

this conversation finally, where they finally,

45:15

you know, they go and see

45:17

Hagrid. And Ron is kind of

45:20

not really the main person driving

45:22

the train on this situation because

45:24

it's mostly Hermione and hairy talking

45:27

to Hagrid. But that's when we

45:29

see these giant grubs in a

45:31

barrel in the corner. And Ron

45:34

is like, and they grow into

45:36

Hagrid. They won't grow into nothing.

45:38

to feed to Aragog. So that's

45:41

when we find out that that's

45:43

the real reason Hagred's so upset.

45:45

Yeah, poor Hagred. I mean, again,

45:47

it's not a Hagred character study,

45:50

but I mean, I do have

45:52

more sympathy for Hagred than Ron

45:54

does. Yes, I do too. I

45:57

mean, I get that Ron had

45:59

a traumatic experience with Aragog. But

46:01

like, doesn't mean that he shouldn't

46:04

be, you know, sympathetic to his

46:06

friend grieving the loss of the

46:08

imminent loss of a pet. A

46:10

pet? Right. That's a dear friend.

46:13

Right, right. Sorry. I don't think

46:15

an acrimancially would like to be

46:17

referred to as a pet, Martha.

46:20

Yeah, Hagwood's like, see the rest

46:22

of the tribe, Aragog's family, they're

46:24

getting a bit funny now he's

46:27

ill, a bit restive and wrong.

46:29

Yeah, I think we saw that

46:31

side of him, or of them.

46:34

Yeah, I mean, that's, he says

46:36

that I guess, like, somewhat tactfully,

46:38

but. I think we saw that

46:40

slide of them. Yeah, so I

46:43

mean, I think of the three

46:45

of them, the trio, Ron is

46:47

the least sympathetic about the situation.

46:50

I mean, and I get it

46:52

that he's terrified of spiders and

46:54

he did have a pretty traumatizing

46:57

experience with the tribe of spiders,

46:59

but the tribe of spiders, macromantula,

47:01

but he also, I feel, like,

47:04

cares the least about hackers of

47:06

the three of them. That's not

47:08

a very nice way of putting

47:10

it, but yeah, but yeah, I

47:13

would agree. stars in his eyes

47:15

about hagrinness, as I feel like

47:17

both Harry and Hermione are. Well,

47:20

especially Harry. Yeah. So then we

47:22

get the letter from hagrin about

47:24

how Aragog died and Ron, he's

47:27

mental. That thing told its mates

47:29

to eat Harry and me. Told

47:31

them to help us, help themselves.

47:34

And now Haggren expects us to

47:36

go down there and cry over

47:38

its horrible Harry body. Erichog's dead.

47:40

If it were a question of

47:43

saving him, Ron, I'd want to

47:45

go even less. You didn't meet

47:47

him, Hermione. Being dead will have

47:50

improved him a lot. Yeah, I

47:52

mean, it's again like... Like it's

47:54

not a nice way to respond

47:57

to your friend being like in

47:59

grief and mourning. Right, exactly. Yeah,

48:01

I mean, he definitely has a

48:03

different perspective on Aragog than Hagred

48:06

does. Yeah, and Termini too, since

48:08

Hermione never actually had to meet

48:10

Aragog. Right. But yeah, we talked

48:13

about it when we did the

48:15

Harry and Ron character study, their

48:17

relationship, we have the, when Harry

48:20

takes the Felix and decides he's

48:22

going to see Hagred and Rob's

48:24

like, did you take essence of

48:27

insanity? So our last plot to

48:29

talk about is Ron with the

48:31

Battle of the Astronomy Tower, which

48:33

of course is the battle in

48:36

this book. That's what we call

48:38

it apparently. That's the official title

48:40

according to the wiki. Right. Harry

48:43

had given the Felix Felices to

48:45

Ron and to... with the task

48:47

of dividing it between him and

48:50

Hermione and Ginny. So it's part

48:52

of why Ron's able to do

48:54

as well as he does of

48:57

this battle. We don't really see

48:59

him too much. We see one

49:01

moment where Ron, Professor McGonagall, and

49:03

Lupin are each battling a separate

49:06

death eater. So, and I guess

49:08

he probably wins that battle somehow,

49:10

thanks to the Felix, probably. Well,

49:13

all of the curses are glancing

49:15

off him, so. Exactly, they seem

49:17

to just miss. Oh, glancing. But

49:20

yeah, we don't see much of

49:22

Ron in the battle just because,

49:24

you know, Harry's focused on chasing

49:27

down Snape and, you know, the

49:29

situation with Hagred's hut and stuff,

49:31

the burning of Hagred's hut. The

49:33

burning of Hagred's hut, yeah. Yeah.

49:36

You think that's where the filmmakers

49:38

got the idea for the burning

49:40

of the burrow? Maybe. They're like,

49:43

I like the idea. I like

49:45

the idea of the fire, but

49:47

I don't want it to be

49:50

Haggood's hut because that's made of

49:52

stone in the movie. Right, true.

49:54

That's a good point, actually. They

49:56

could have burned up his thatched

49:59

roof or whatever. Isn't that kind

50:01

of? Yeah, I think it's made

50:03

of like sticks. Exactly. Hagred's hut

50:06

is very three little pigs ask.

50:08

Yes, exactly. That's what I was

50:10

trying to say. I'm glad you

50:13

understood. He's taking something from each

50:15

of the pigs. Serving three little

50:17

pigs down. I'm looking at it.

50:20

In the movie, it does appear

50:22

to be like some sort of

50:24

straw or hay or something.

50:26

I don't know what you would

50:29

call that. Straw. Well isn't the

50:31

three little pigs usually

50:33

brick not stones? I

50:36

think yeah but it's so I

50:38

think yeah it's more that the

50:40

the straw and the hey sorry the

50:42

straw and the sticks are

50:44

combined together to make the

50:46

roof and then the stone

50:48

is the the main part

50:50

so like I said serving

50:52

some three little pigs real

50:55

this. Yeah exactly. So

50:58

again, we don't. And Lupin

51:01

will huff and puff and

51:03

blow his house down. Lupin.

51:05

I think more like Grayback.

51:07

Right, right, right. So we

51:09

just have the aftermath of

51:11

the battle. And we mostly

51:14

just see Ron and Bill.

51:16

So Ginny has told Harry

51:18

that. Malfoy stepped over Bill's

51:20

body and so we see that

51:23

Ron's one of the ones

51:25

huddled around Bill's bed and Ron

51:27

is like this is just not

51:29

cool yeah exactly Ron asks the

51:32

question of will Bill be a

51:34

real werewolf he doesn't he

51:36

can't say it will he be

51:39

able to huff and puff and

51:41

blow Hagrid's hut down right but

51:43

so yeah loop and answers the

51:45

question that there's gonna be

51:48

some contamination, but probably not

51:50

of true werewolf. And

51:52

he'll be wanting his

51:54

stakes extra rare. Right.

51:56

Well, the British overcooked

51:58

their meat. Yeah, then Rod's

52:01

like, well, Dumboldor might know

52:03

something that would work. Where is

52:05

he? Hmm. So. A moment

52:07

of putting his foot in his

52:09

mouth. Yeah, he's like, Bill fought

52:12

these maniacs on Dumboldor's orders. Dumboldor

52:14

owes him. He can't leave

52:16

him in this state. That's kind

52:19

of a weird way of situation.

52:21

Like, this isn't Dumboldor's fault. Yeah,

52:27

I think that's pretty much it

52:29

for Ron in this book. All

52:31

right, well, I can't believe we've

52:33

come to a close on the

52:36

book six in only five weeks.

52:38

Yeah, it didn't take us very

52:40

long, huh? No, it's been a

52:42

quick, a quick discussion, but I

52:45

hope we've gone into enough detail

52:47

at least. I don't think we

52:49

spent enough time. Yeah, can we

52:51

maybe rewind again? But you know,

52:54

we're at the end of the

52:56

book, so that does mean we

52:58

have to do a bit of

53:00

a rating or a ranking or

53:03

however you want to call it.

53:05

Perhaps. Perhaps. Yeah, I think that

53:07

that's a good idea. So let's

53:09

look at our rubric here. We

53:12

have four categories, of course. We

53:14

have heart humor, uniqueness slash creativity

53:16

and depth. We'll give a total

53:18

of up to five stars or

53:21

five points for each category. Okay.

53:23

Well, and I'm a bit confused

53:25

by how we've written this out

53:28

in the outline, because did we

53:30

somehow combine Ron in books one

53:32

and two into one episode? Yeah.

53:34

How? Okay. All right, okay. So

53:37

in the past, he's gotten, he's

53:39

been going up, I feel like

53:41

a bit in each book. So

53:43

last book, he had gotten four

53:46

for heart, three for humor. four

53:48

for uniqueness and creativity and a

53:50

five for depth. So I think

53:52

depth isn't gonna decrease so we

53:55

can just do that straight off

53:57

the bat. That's gonna be a

53:59

five. I agree. I think maybe

54:01

humor could go back. up to

54:04

four from three? I think so

54:06

too. He's been funnier this book.

54:08

Yeah. Okay, so it does look

54:10

like we gave him four for

54:13

humor in the fifth book, so

54:15

I think we can stay at

54:17

four as well for that. Yeah,

54:19

he was quite funny. I think

54:22

like maybe some of his mean

54:24

streak stuff like would keep him

54:26

from being a full five just

54:28

because like sometimes his humor is

54:31

not. Exactly, he can be quite

54:33

funny, but he can also be

54:35

a bit unkind. Exactly. Luna summed

54:37

it up, why we're only giving

54:40

him a four. Exactly. Heart, I

54:42

think, maybe still a four. Yeah,

54:44

I don't think we can go

54:46

up to five. And then uniqueness

54:49

and creativity, I think maybe a

54:51

five. I don't know. Yeah, maybe

54:53

a four still. Yeah, I think

54:55

still a four. I think we

54:58

could maybe increase two of those

55:00

five by the end, but... Yeah,

55:02

I think full has growth to

55:04

make so his uniqueness and creativity

55:07

I mean I think he is

55:09

a unique character and he's very

55:11

well developed and that's why we're

55:13

playing into the depth part But

55:16

he does rely on some like

55:18

stereotypical things like how he is

55:20

with girls and that stuff like

55:22

it not that I think that's

55:25

necessarily bad. It's just it's not

55:27

super creative Exactly I agree Yeah,

55:29

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