0:00

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pets. So time with our pets

0:04

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0:06

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0:09

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0:11

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0:13

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0:15

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0:17

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With Dutch you'll get more time with your pets and

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year -round peace of mind when it comes to their

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vet care. Yeah

0:30

we're going to talk about regenerative supply

0:32

chains so the fact that we

0:34

have regenerative practice on land but often

0:36

it stops there so how do

0:39

we bring that thinking that got us

0:41

to regenerative practice through into our

0:43

supply chains and how do we encourage

0:45

our eaters to also think regeneratively

0:47

and support those that are doing the

0:49

good stuff on the land and

0:51

we're also going to talk about Being

0:54

an Indigenous ally and

0:56

how the importance of Indigenous

0:58

thinking in food systems can

1:01

be incredibly powerful. From

1:04

wherever we are, we acknowledge the

1:07

traditional custodians of country throughout Australia,

1:09

recognising their continuing connection to this

1:11

land, its waterways, the stars in

1:13

the skies, since time immemorial. We

1:15

pay our respects to the elders,

1:17

knowledge holders and to all the

1:20

generations of First Nations peoples who

1:22

have nurtured their unseeded sovereign lands

1:24

for over 80 ,000 years and continue

1:26

to do so today. G'day,

1:33

I'm your host Charlie Arnott, an

1:35

eighth -generational Australian regenerative farmer and in

1:37

this podcast series I'll be diving

1:39

deep and exploring my guests' unique

1:41

perspectives on the world so you

1:43

can apply their experience and knowledge

1:45

to cultivate your own transition to

1:47

a more regenerative way of life.

1:49

You Welcome

1:55

to the regenerative journey with

1:57

your host Charlie Arnott. You

2:07

Let's try it. But

2:13

Clifford, we're on and you're from, what

2:16

are you from? What

2:18

are you going to talk about today? And

2:21

I've got some other questions.

2:23

Yeah, I'm Angela Clifford from Eat

2:25

New Zealand. We are

2:27

Aotearoa New Zealand's not -for -profit

2:29

food movement. a collection

2:32

that's about reconnecting people to

2:34

their land and ocean through

2:36

their kai or their food.

2:39

I'm here to bring the

2:41

love across the Tasman

2:43

Sea from Aotearoa and find

2:45

all those beautiful joined

2:47

up cooperative collaborative spaces with

2:49

our cousins and brothers

2:51

and sisters from Australia. And

2:53

is there anything you're specifically going to

2:55

be talking about in your prison? I'm

2:57

about half an hour's time unconscious. I

3:00

don't know, you've been late to it. What new

3:02

messages have you got for us? Yeah, we're

3:04

going to talk about regenerative supply

3:06

chains. So the fact that we have

3:08

regenerative practice on land, but often

3:10

it stops there. So how do we

3:12

bring that thinking that got us

3:14

to regenerative practice through and to our

3:16

supply chains? And how do we

3:18

encourage our eaters to also think regeneratively

3:20

and support those that are doing

3:22

the good stuff on the land? And

3:24

we're also going to talk about Being

3:28

an Indigenous ally and

3:30

how the importance of Indigenous

3:32

thinking in food systems can

3:34

be incredibly powerful when

3:36

we hold space, amplify and

3:39

listen to those. And

3:41

I assume that the Indigenous,

3:43

I guess, learnings in New

3:45

Zealand are going to apply to Australia.

3:47

The principles of the same, the attitude, the

3:49

sort of the culture, the cultural,

3:52

I guess, challenges as

3:54

well, that you guys

3:56

have experienced over there,

3:58

they all can apply

4:00

to our Australian -Indigenous context.

4:02

Yeah, obviously I'm not indigenous so it's

4:04

not my place to speak to

4:06

exactly what that is for indigenous people.

4:09

My understanding of it is that

4:11

there are similarities and one of the

4:13

most powerful ones is how we

4:15

are nature. So humans are

4:17

nature and my understanding in Maori

4:19

or to Aomori or the Maori

4:21

worldview is that humans are actually

4:23

the tainter or the youngest sibling

4:25

in all the other species in

4:28

the world. So they're not at

4:30

the top the pyramid they're actually

4:32

at the bottom and that we

4:34

owe a mark of respect and

4:36

understanding for all other species in

4:38

the world. Now tell

4:40

me we're sort of heading on

4:43

to midday I think here

4:45

day one of Grounded. Tell

4:47

me Angela what have there been

4:49

some standout presentations you've been privy

4:51

to this morning so far anyway

4:53

and was there anyone you came

4:55

here specifically to listen to and

4:58

see? Oh look, there's just

5:00

such an incredible, varied piece of

5:02

content. I loved listening to the

5:04

regenerative vegetable farmers this morning because

5:06

that's an area that super fascinates

5:08

me in terms of regenerative practice. I'm

5:11

really interested in perennial vegetables and

5:13

how we can move from annual to

5:15

perennial systems in the face of

5:17

climate change. I loved listening

5:19

to Jake Wolke. He just brings

5:22

a whole different dimension in terms of

5:24

the entrepreneurial shift and so from

5:26

my perspective it's that it's the to

5:28

facing side of things but yeah

5:30

it's pretty early days so

5:32

our Tammy was also from

5:34

Australian Food Sovereignty Alliance pretty

5:36

early days but yeah everything

5:38

so far has been epic. Anything you've heard

5:40

that you're gonna take home and go I'm

5:42

gonna go and do that or make that

5:44

phone call or do that research have you

5:47

been inspired to sort of execute on action

5:49

something when you get home? Yeah I'm

5:51

really interested in self or

5:54

vending butcheries I just think

5:57

because labour is such a

5:59

major issue for small to medium

6:01

food producers so setting up systems where

6:03

people can let themselves in and let

6:05

themselves out and I've actually seen a

6:07

lot of that around Australia so I

6:09

think that's some thinking that might be

6:11

useful back home and I think we've

6:13

got some thinking to bring to the

6:16

party around abattoirs and some of the

6:18

issues and challenges that Australia are currently

6:20

facing in that space. So

6:22

it feels like a really

6:24

cool exchange of ideas and

6:26

hopefully the beginning of a

6:28

much more interwoven relationship. And

6:31

last question, are you looking forward

6:33

to lunch? I've had lunch. It

6:35

was delicious. It was so good.

6:37

I would really recommend the pepperoni

6:39

pizza and the wallaby pie and

6:41

that's something especially for all my

6:43

New Zealanders. Wallaby pie, it turns

6:45

out delicious. We have and

6:47

they're a major pest so it turns

6:49

out we can turn them into pies

6:52

and they're delicious. What about possums? Possum

6:54

pie? Yeah possums kind of stretching it.

6:56

We really don't like possums either. It's

6:58

basically everything you have that you've given

7:00

us that we don't want. quite

7:02

a few pest species as

7:04

it turns out, although perhaps my

7:07

most exciting moment on the

7:09

farm so far has been the

7:11

discovery of a baby tiger

7:13

snake and that was just thrilling

7:15

for a New Zealander. Where?

7:17

Baby tiger snake? Well apparently there's quite a few

7:19

around. Oh here? thought the one I saw was

7:21

just about... Oh so not in New Zealand? No,

7:23

it was about 10 meters in that direction, Charlie.

7:25

And there was a black snake here this morning

7:27

too. That was a tiger snake because they don't

7:29

have black snakes here. Oh, right. Well, Simon, I've

7:31

been misled. And so thank you so much for

7:33

this little quick Voxpop. We're both going to have

7:36

to work out what Voxpop even means because I

7:38

have no idea. But thanks for

7:40

just doing a spontaneous little chat

7:42

and all the best for your

7:44

session, your presentation very shortly. Thanks

7:47

for warming me up. You still

7:49

got 20 minutes to fine tune if

7:51

need be, but I doubt it.

7:53

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