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Welcome to the Resilient Mind Podcast.
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In this episode, you will be listening to
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You Are Not Your Mind, returning to the
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people who think all the time, the constant
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chit -chat of symbols and
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images and talk and
1:07
words inside your skull. Now,
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if you do that all the time, you'll find
1:12
that you have nothing to think about except
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thinking. And
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just as you have to stop talking to hear what others
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have to say, you have to
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stop thinking to find out what life is
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about. And
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the moment you stop thinking, You
1:27
become into immediate contact with
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what Korzybski called, so
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delightfully, the unspeakable world, the
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nonverbal world. Some
1:37
people would call it the
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physical world, but these words, physical,
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nonverbal, material, are all conceptual,
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and is
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not a concept. So
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when you are awake
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to that world, You
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suddenly find that all the
1:59
so -called differences between
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self and other, life
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and death, pleasure
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and pain, are
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all conceptual and they're not there. They
2:11
don't exist at all. When
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the old master
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Yakujo was asked what is then, he
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said, when hungry eat, when
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tired sleep. But
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they said, well, isn't that what everybody does? Aren't
2:25
you just like ordinary people? Oh, he said, no,
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they don't do anything of the kind. When
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they're hungry, they don't just eat. They think of all
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sorts of things. When they're tired, they
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don't just sleep, but dream all sorts of
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dreams. We
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have been running around far too
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much. It's all right. We've
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been active, and our action has achieved a lot
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of good things. But
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as Aristotle pointed out long ago, and this is
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one of the good things about Aristotle, He
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said the goal of action is
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contemplation. In
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other words, busy, busy,
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busy, busy, busy, but what's it all about?
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Especially when people are busy because
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they think they're going somewhere. And
3:07
they're gonna get something and attain something. There's
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quite a good deal of fun to action if
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you know you're not going anywhere. If
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you act like you dance or like you
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sing or play music. Then you know
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you're not going anywhere. You're just
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doing pure action. But
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if you act with the thought in mind that
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as a result of action, you were eventually going
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to arrive at some place where everything will be
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all right. Then
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you are on a squirrel cage, hopelessly
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condemned to what the Buddhists call samsara,
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the round or rat race
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of birth and death. Because
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you think you're going to get someone. You're
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already there. But
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the point is
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that one cannot
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act creatively except
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on the basis of stillness, of
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having a
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mind that is from time
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to time capable of stopping
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thinking. And
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so this
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practice of sitting
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may seem very difficult
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at first because it If
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you sit in the Buddhist way, it
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makes your legs ache. Most
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Westerners start
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to fidget. They find it very boring to
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sit for a long time. But
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the reason they find it boring is that they're
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still thinking. If you weren't
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thinking, you wouldn't
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notice the passage of time. And
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as a matter of fact, far from being boring,
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the world, when looked at
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without chatter, becomes amazingly
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interesting. The
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most ordinary sights and sounds
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and smells, the
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texture of shadows on the floor in front
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of you, all
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these things without being named
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and saying, that's a shadow,
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that's red, that's brown, that's
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somebody's foot. When you don't name
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things any longer, you start seeing
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them. You
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see, if you force, sound
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into five tones. You force color
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into five colors. You're blind and
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deaf. The world of
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color is infinite, as is the world of
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sound. And it is
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only through stopping, fixing, conceptions on the world
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of color and sound that you really
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begin to hear it and see it. So
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this, shall
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I be so bold as to
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use the word discipline of meditation
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or zazen, lies behind
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the extraordinary
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capacity of
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Zen people who develop
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such great arts
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as the
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gardens, the tea
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ceremony, the calligraphy,
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and the grand painting of the
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Sun dynasty and of the
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Japanese sumi tradition. They
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found in the very simplest things of
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everyday life, magic.
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In the words of the poet Hokoji, Marvelous
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power and supernatural activity.
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Drawing water. Carrying
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wood. The
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easiest way to stop thinking
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is first of all to think about something that
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doesn't have any meaning. Or
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listening to a sound
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that has no meaning. Because
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that stops you thinking because you become
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fascinated in the sound. Comes
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a point when the sound is
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taken away and you're wide open. Now,
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at that point, there will
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be a kind of preliminary,
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so -called satori, and
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you will think, wowee, that's it.
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You'll be so happy you'll be walking on
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air. When Suzuki Daisetsu was
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asked what is it like to have
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satori, he said, well, it's like
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ordinary everyday experience, except about
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two inches off the ground. From
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this standpoint of Buddhism, there
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is no fundamental difference between... the
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transcendental world and this everyday
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world. The
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Bodhisattva, you see, who doesn't go
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off into a nirvana and
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stay there forever and ever but
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comes back and lives ordinary
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everyday life to help other beings to
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see through it too, he
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doesn't come back because he feels he
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has some sort of solemn duty to
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help mankind and all that kind of
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pious can't. He
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comes back because he sees the two worlds are
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the same. He
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sees all other beings as
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Buddhas. He sees
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them to use
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a phrase of G .K. Chesterton's, but
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now a great thing in the street seems
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any human nod where move
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in strange democracy the million
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masks of God. The
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world has seen in
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an ordinary everyday
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state of consciousness to
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find out that that is really no
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different from the world. of supreme
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ecstasy. Because here is
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the light, that brilliant,
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blazing energy, brighter
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than a thousand suns, which is locked up
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in everything. Now imagine this. Imagine
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you're sieged. Vivid,
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vivid light, so bright. It's
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beyond light. It's so
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bright. And you
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watch it receding from you. And
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on the edge is like a great star
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that becomes a rim of red. And
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beyond that, a rim of orange,
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yellow, green,
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blue, indigo, violet.
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You see this great mandala appearing, this
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great sun. And beyond
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the violet, there's black, black, like
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obsidian, not flat black, but
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transparent black, like lacquer. And
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again, blazing out of
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the black as
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the yang comes from
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the yin, maurite. going,
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going, going. And
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along with this light, there
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comes sound. There's
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a sound so tremendous with the white light
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that you can't hear it. So
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piercing that it seems to annihilate
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the ears. But
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then along with the colors, the
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sound goes down the scale
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in harmonic intervals, down, down, down,
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down, until it gets to a
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deep, thundering bass. which
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is so vibrant that in turn it
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turns into something solid, and you
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begin to get the similar spectrum of
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textures. Now
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all this time you've been watching a kind
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of thing radiating out, but
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it says, you know, this isn't all I can do, and
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the rays start going yo -ee,
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yo -ee, yo -ee, yo -ee,
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dancing like this, and naturally
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the sound starts going waving too
10:13
as it comes out. And
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then the textures start varying
10:18
themselves. And they say, well,
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you've been looking at this thing as I've been
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describing it so far in a flat dimension.
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Let's add a third dimension. It's going to come
10:26
right at you now, see, this way. And
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meanwhile, it says, it's not just that we're
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going to go ewewewewe like this. We're going to
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do little curly cues. We're going to go,
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could you, could you, could you like this?
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And then suddenly you see in all the little
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details that become so intense. that all kinds
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of little sub -figures are contained within what you
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thought were originally the main figure, and
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the sound starts going all different, amazing,
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complexities of sound all over the place,
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and this thing's going, going, going, and
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you think you're gonna go out of
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your mind, and suddenly it turns into, why,
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us, sitting around here. When
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we say to ourselves, you
11:03
must go up, the reason
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is, you see, that
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we are not living in the eternal now. where
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reality is. We
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are always thinking that the satisfaction of
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life will be coming later. Don't
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kid yourself. Only
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suckers put hope
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in the future. There isn't much
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of a future. You're
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gonna die. So,
11:32
therefore, this hope for
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the future is a hoax. It's
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a perfect hoax. Because
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you're not fully alive now, you
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think maybe someday you will be. Look,
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supposing I ask you, what did you do yesterday? First,
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we will say, well, I got
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up at 7 .30, and I
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brushed my teeth, and
11:58
I read the newspaper over a cup
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of coffee. And
12:03
then I looked at the saw
12:05
and dressed, and... Got
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in the car and drove downtown and did
12:10
this and that in the office and
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so on and you go on and on
12:14
and on and you suddenly discover that
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what you've described has absolutely nothing to do
12:18
with what You've described a
12:20
fleshless list of
12:22
abstractions Whereas
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if you were actually aware
12:27
of what went on
12:29
You could never
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describe it because nature
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is multi -dimensional
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Language is linear. Language
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is scrawny. And
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therefore, if you identify the world as it
12:44
is with the way the world is described, it's
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as if you were trying to eat dollar
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bills and expect a nutritious diet. Or
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eat numbers. A lot of people
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eat numbers. People play the stock
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market. They're doing nothing but eating
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numbers. They're
13:02
always unhappy. Absolutely
13:04
miserable. Because they
13:06
never get anything so therefore
13:08
they always hope more
13:10
is coming Because they
13:12
believe that if they eat
13:14
enough dollar bills eventually
13:16
something satisfactory will
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happen So eating the
13:21
abstractions all the time we
13:23
want more more
13:25
more time Confucius very
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wisely said a
13:30
man who understands the Dow in the
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morning may die with
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content in the evening. Because
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when you understand, you
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don't put your hope in time. Time
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won't solve a thing. And
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the Christian word for sinning in
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Greek is a matani, which
13:53
means to miss the point. And
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the point is eternal life, which
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is here and now. But
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until there is silence of the mind, it
14:05
is almost impossible to
14:07
understand eternal life,
14:11
that is to say, eternal now. When
14:14
you are fully aware
14:17
and not thinking, you
14:20
will notice some amazing
14:23
absences. There
14:26
is no past. Can
14:30
you hear anything past, incidentally? Can
14:33
you hear anything future? They're
14:37
just not there to the plain sense
14:39
of one's ears. Well,
14:42
I remember in the Sermon on the
14:44
Mount that Jesus said that there
14:46
are a lot of things about this. Consider
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the lilies of the field how they grow.
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They toil not neither did they spin, and
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yet Soleiman in all his glory
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was not clothed like one of these. And
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if God so clothes the grass of the
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field which today is, and tomorrow is cast
15:04
into the oven, shall he not much more
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clothe you, faithless ones? Wow.
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So do
15:12
not worry about tomorrow, saying what
15:14
shall we eat, what shall we drink,
15:16
or how shall we clothe ourselves, or the
15:18
rabble seeks after these things. Sufficient
15:23
to the day is the worry of it.
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Nobody ever preaches a sermon on that
15:28
text. Never I've
15:31
heard lots of sermons
15:33
And never one on it
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because people say That's
15:38
all very well because
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Jesus was the boss
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his son And and he knew
15:45
you see that he was really
15:47
in charge of the universe and he nothing
15:49
to worry about But
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we have to be
15:53
practical Oh What
15:56
do you suppose the gospel was The
15:59
good news. Do
16:02
you know it never got out? You
16:04
too are the boss's son. That
16:08
was the gospel. Lots
16:10
of people in India know that perfectly
16:12
well. When you get to
16:14
be a certain age and after you've studied
16:17
long enough with a certain guru, then and
16:19
then only, may you realize
16:21
this. If you've put in the
16:23
time, they finally let you in. Here
16:26
you have to wait. until
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dead. The
16:31
only place to begin is now. Because
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here's where we are. So
16:38
why put it off? A
16:41
lot of people say, well, I'm not ready. I
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mean, you're not ready. What do you have to be
16:45
to be ready? I'm
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not good enough. I'm
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perhaps not old
16:53
enough, not mature enough,
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still frightened of pain.
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I'm still dependent on
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material things. I have
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to, you know, eat a lot and drink
17:04
a lot. I better get all
17:06
that under control first. Oh?
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You want to be able to
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congratulate yourself for having gone through
17:16
the discipline, which
17:20
is rewarded with realization. That
17:23
is trying to... Quench
17:26
fire with fire. Wouldn't
17:28
it be great to have no fear? No
17:32
attachments, no hang -ups. To
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be as free as the air. Wouldn't
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it be crazy to have that courage? You
17:41
look at yourself honest. You
17:43
find that inside you're actually
17:45
a quaking mess of sensitivity.
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Running away from the quaking
17:49
mess. Escaping. You
17:52
never can. There's
17:54
nothing. You can
17:56
actually do to
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transform your
18:01
own nature into
18:03
unattached selflessness
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because you have a selfish
18:08
reason for wanting to do it. What
18:11
does it mean that you can't do anything
18:13
about it? Singing
18:16
loud and clear. The reason you
18:18
can't do anything about it is that you don't exist. You,
18:24
as you conceive yourself to be, that is
18:26
your ego, your image of yourself, isn't there? It
18:28
doesn't exist. It's an
18:31
abstraction. Well, when you
18:33
understand that, you're liberated. There's
18:36
the happening, the suchness, yes. But
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it's not pushing you around because there's
18:41
no you to be pushed around. This
18:45
illusion of the persecuted ego,
18:47
who is pushed around
18:49
by fate, it's all
18:52
together disappeared. And so,
18:54
in likewise, the illusion of
18:56
the ego who pushes fate around
18:58
has also disappeared. There's
19:00
a hot thing. By
19:04
dying to yourself, by
19:06
having become completely incompetent
19:09
and found that you don't
19:11
exist, you're reborn. You
19:13
become everything in the words
19:15
of Sir Edwin Arnold, foregoing self,
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the universe grows high.
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