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3025. everyone, Gary Linica here, I've just
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got a quick announcement for you.
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I'm sure you'll have noticed England
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playing their first game under new
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boss Thomas Tugel this evening. As
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a result we've made a slight
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tweak to our normal schedule. Rather
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than releasing an episode in our
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usual Friday morning slot, we're going
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to do a special episode tonight
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at 10 p.m. Immediately after the
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England versus Albania game. It'll be
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a live stream of the Rest
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is Football, a YouTube channel, so
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you'll be able to watch live
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and join in with your thoughts
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and questions for us as we
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go. That recording will also then
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be released straight away as a
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regular podcast episode, so you'll be
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able to hear it in full.
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wherever you normally listen. But do
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join us on the live stream
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tonight, if you can, as we
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give our immediate reaction to the
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game and how England are looking
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in the new era of Thomas
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Tockel. It should be a lot
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of fun and a great chance
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for you all to get involved
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in. have your say to. That's
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10 p.m. tonight, pretty much straight
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after the final whistle on the
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Resties Football YouTube channel. The link
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to take you directly to the
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live stream is in the episode
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description. We look forward to you
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joining us this evening. Before you
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go though, if you're looking
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for something to fill your
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normal Friday morning slot... I
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want to tell you about
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Goldhanger's latest podcast, Journey Through
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Time. Historians David Olashugga and
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Sarah Churchwell are going to
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be telling the stories from
3:17
history that you weren't taught
3:19
at school. This week they're looking
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at the terror attack. that took
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place three generations before 9-11,
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ripped through New York, caused
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millions of dollars of damage,
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led to the establishment of
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new national security agencies, and
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helped push the United States
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into the First World War.
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It's the story of the
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1916 Black Tom Explosion, a
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major moment in American history
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that almost no one has
3:49
heard of. Here's a little
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clip from it. to get
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a taste. watching!
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Manhattan Island and the
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surrounding territory trembled early this
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morning from the force of
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two terrific blasts. Windows
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were shattered and buildings shook
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to their foundations. The explosion
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shook the skyscrapers. Clouds of
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dust spurted from doorways, as
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great sheets of glass came
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tumbling from the skies. That's
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a newspaper report from the
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New York Tribune describing
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a terror attack on New York
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City. an attack that cost American
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lives and caused millions of dollars
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of damage to buildings across
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Manhattan. It was a terror
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attack that shocked America, it
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led to the establishment of
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new national security agencies, and
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it helped push the United
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States towards war. But it's
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not the terror attack on New York
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City that you might be thinking of.
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But before we get into that
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story, let's introduce journey through time.
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a new show from Goldhanger. I'm
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Sarah Churchwell, an author, journalist, and
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academic. I'm an American in the
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UK, and I've written books about
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everything from Marilyn Monroe to American
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fascism. And I'm David Ulashogger. I'm
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a historian and a broadcaster. I've
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spent about 25 years making history
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documentaries. I also write history books
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on imperial history, the world wars,
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the history of cities, among other
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things. And in journey through time, we're
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going to be bringing you stories from all
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over the world and across the centuries, stories
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that reveal what it was like to live
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through key events in the past, what it
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really felt like to be there at the
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time. We're going to be uncovering the
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hidden social histories behind famous chapters
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from the past, how they impacted
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on the lives of ordinary people,
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looking at things like prohibition in
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the United States, in the 20s,
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and the great fire of London
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in the 17th century. But we're
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also going to be uncovering forgotten
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events, like the great storm of
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1703, one of the worst natural
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disasters. in British history. And we'll
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be meeting some of history's missing persons.
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These amazing characters who are just not
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that well known, but whose stories take
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us into incredible moments. So we'll be
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delving into events like the scandalous murder
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of the celebrated architect Stanford White, which
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was a crime that exposed the dark
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side of America's gilded age. And we'll
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bring you one of my favorites, the
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frankly astonishing tale of Anne Bonny and
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Mary Reed, two women who broke every
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convention of their age to become female
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pirates of the Caribbean during the Golden
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Age of Piracy. And today's episode, I
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think, does all of that. It is
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a forgotten story, that terror attack on
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New York City. And it involves a
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bizarre cast of forgotten characters. We've got
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Playboy diplomats. There's a stranded sailor, an
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opera singer who manages a brothel in
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New York, a useless spy who leaves
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top-secret documents on a train. We've got
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bomb makers, Irish revolutionaries, and even an
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American president who wants to pretend that
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none of this. This is happening. This
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is the first of two episodes on
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the Black Tom explosion, the terror attack
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on New York City that took place
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in 1916. That's three generations before the
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attacks of September 11th, 2001. And David
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it's worth saying now that there are
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lots of parallels in the story we're
7:15
about to tell between 9-11 and the
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Black Tom explosion. That's right. And today
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we're going to discover why Black Tom
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Island was targeted, but also who the
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attackers were. And despite being largely forgotten,
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we're going to show that this was
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an event that really did change America.
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But it has been largely forgotten. This
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is not a well-known episode. I'm just
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curious, David, when did you first encounter
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the story of Black Tom? Well, I
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stumbled across it back in 2012. I
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was writing a book about the First
7:45
World War and kind of did a
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double take when I read about it,
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because it was mentioned in passing. thought,
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how do I not know this? And
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the more you read about it, the
7:56
bigger that question becomes in your mind
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is how do we not know about
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this. But it is remarkable that it's
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been forgotten because it did have all
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kinds of consequences. That's right. This is
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an event that helped invent the notion
8:10
of what Americans today call Homeland Security.
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and it has other consequences. It was
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to be used 20 years later to
8:17
justify the internment of Japanese Americans during
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another war, the Second World War. And
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it even, this is the most remarkable
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thing, it even played a role, a
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small role but a significant one in
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the rise of Hitler and the Nazis.
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Yeah, I mean, I was just going
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to say when you said small, I
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was going to say it's not that
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minor. It's limited but consequential. As we
8:40
will be revealing. And it's important also
8:42
to say that when we say explosion
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we really really mean it. This is
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one of the largest detonations in history
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up until that time before the invention
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of nuclear weapons. It was a blast
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so powerful that it didn't just shatter
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the panes of glass in the skyscrapers
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of Manhattan. It even registered on the
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Richter scale, the scale we used to
9:03
measure earthquakes. To hear more, search journey
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