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Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Welcome to the
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Richie Allen Show. How are you? It
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is St. George's Day. Happy St.
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George's Day to my English friends and
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British friends who celebrate St. George's
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Day and those around the world who
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celebrate it. Hope you've had a
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good old day. It's about bloody time.
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It was a national holiday, eh? And
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you had a day off and all of that. Well
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anyway, I am, as I've just
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said, Richie Allen. I've got a very
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interesting program coming your way between now and
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7 p .m. Thank you for joining me.
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Your Richie Allen Show begins now.
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no spin no filters this
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is your Richie Allen
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show free speech radio like
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you've never heard it
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before Now
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I really love Mark Manning. I
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love him because he's a radio
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guy. He is a terrific radio
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presenter. He's a voiceover artist and
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he is a podcast host. He
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also trains people how to use
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the medium of radio and podcasts
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and I love him. He's got
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a YouTube channel and I was
1:23
on there earlier in the year
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and saw that he had posted
1:28
or published a series called Scary
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Era, Scary Ireland, which began The
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second season began only a few
1:34
weeks ago. What a scary era about,
1:36
but it's about the paranormal as
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it pertains to the wonderful country
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of Ireland. Ireland has a real
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history with paranormal. Right it does.
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So I've invited Mark on to
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talk about the podcast he's interested
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in it and his travels around
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the country visiting some of the
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more haunted locations in Ireland. I
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thought after a good old news
1:57
rundown I thought it would be
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nice to change pace and
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when I say I
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am completely fascinated. and
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hooked by the paranormal. I
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mean it. I've been an avid
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reader of scary fiction, of horror
2:12
fiction, a consumer of horror movies
2:14
and thrillers with a little bit
2:16
of paranormal thrown in pretty much
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my entire life. And Mark's brilliant,
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so I've invited him on to
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talk about it. You might have
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had a paranormal experience yourself. You
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might want to share with me.
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If you do, send it via
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the usual channels. There you are.
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Avenues. Avenues is a better word.
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Use the app or use the
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contact form on richieallon .co .uk. But
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I can't recommend it. Highly enough,
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scary era. Look for Mark Manning
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on YouTube. You'll find Mark, of
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course, on Twitter. Well,
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I give you his Twitter handle,
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will I? It's Mark Manning.
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There you are. M -A -N -N -I
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-N -G. A media mercenary. He
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refers to himself, but he's got
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a golden voice and he's
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a great company. In
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fact, last time he was on
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the program last year. talk about
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things to do with the radio
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and the evolution of media he
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was one of the more requested
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guests afterwards you were saying to
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me get him back on again
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it's been a while he's back
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today in around about 35 40
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minutes and hopefully then he'll stay
3:23
with us for an hour or
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more the paranormal I myself have
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not had what I would consider
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to be a paranormal experience I
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think I'd like to have one
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and then I think I'd probably
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cack myself in the middle of
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it but I've often thought it'd
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be nice to see something or
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to feel something or sense something
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in one of these great locations
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with great history in any case
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as I said and I will
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say it again it's important happy
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st. George's day you won't be
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surprised to learn that a lot
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of the mid -morning talk shows here
3:58
in the UK TV and radio
4:00
they had the same boring phone
4:02
in they've had for the last
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20 years how's the has the
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far right hijacked the England flag
4:08
every year without fail. Should
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you be ashamed to
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display your England flag, your
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George's Cross and all
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of that whole garbage? And
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the general consensus is
4:22
that people are reluctant to
4:24
fly an England flag,
4:27
not Not the Union Jack
4:29
now, but an England flag. And
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that people have become reluctant
4:34
to do so because the flag
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has been co -opted by the
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so -called far right. Now that
4:40
cretinus malignant fucking goon, otherwise
4:42
known as Cure Starmer, gave a
4:44
speech at Downing Street yesterday
4:46
at a function where he talked
4:48
about needing to to reclaim
4:50
the England flag, to reclaim
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it from all of the ne 'er
4:55
-do -wells, from all of the scallywags
4:57
who have taken it over. This
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is gas -lighting horse manure, of
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course. If you wanted
5:03
to celebrate it, the flag and
5:05
Englishness just denounced that from
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now on in, it is a
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national holiday, just like St
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David's Day, St Patrick's Day, St
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Andrew's. I hope I
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got those in the right order. You never know.
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Anyway, your thoughts as usual to
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RichieAllen .co .uk. You need to
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download the app to use the
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messaging feature on the app
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in any case. As always, as
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ever, I look forward to
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reading your considered take, your learned
5:32
take on all of these
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things. Catherine, you
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left me a message yesterday. Hello Catherine. Richie,
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Richie, she didn't say Richie Lee. She didn't
5:41
say Richie Lee. I might change my name
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to Richie Lee. Richie Lee Allen. Catherine
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says, Richie, I am a
5:47
specialist trauma therapist, and I'd be
5:49
interested in chatting with you
5:51
about the benefits or otherwise, but
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Catherine didn't leave any contact
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details. Catherine, what
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the heck do you think I
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am? A clairvoyant? Might
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be. Might be a clairvoyant. I'm
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a lot of things, but a clairvoyant I
6:06
am not. I'm not one of them. But
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cats and do reach back out to me because
6:10
of course I'd be very interested in speaking with
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you about it as I said on the program
6:14
yesterday. I founded a positive,
6:17
a beneficial, and certainly
6:19
a therapeutic experience. But
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again, my counsellor was
6:24
very challenging. My counsellor was
6:26
a bit like Sean. the character
6:28
in i think robin williams character
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in goodwill hunting i think his
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name is sean maguire isn't it
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i think the surname of the
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characters maguire anyway my counselor was
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like that he didn't take any
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guff he didn't have any time
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now for me feeling sorry for
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myself way back when katherine get
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back to me with details you
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mad woman am i supposed to
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imagine your email address Thank
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you Catherine. Hi to Wendy. Good
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afternoon. Hi to Julie. Good
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afternoon. Happy St. George's Day. Mark
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as well. Hello. Rob
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is looking forward to hearing from
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Mark a little bit later on.
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I nearly forgot Mark's name. Wouldn't
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that be embarrassing on live radio? He
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waxed lyrical about a guest you can't
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remember his name. But of
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course Mark Manning. Now let's talk for
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a moment about Israel. This
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stuff I think It's part of
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the whole attitude era of politics,
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which I'm not going to. Stop
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yawning. Stop. Stop shouting at me.
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I'm not going to get into
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it today. But this
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nonsense about Israel, the Israeli
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government deleting a social
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media post which expressed sorrow
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and condolences over the
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death of Pope Francis. So
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the Israel's verified Twitter
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account had published a message
7:46
or posted one. rest
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in peace Pope Francis may his
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memory be a blessing. It
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was posted on Monday and then
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it was taken down a couple of
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hours later because the Israelis realized
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that well the Pope had been a
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tad outspoken about the Israeli genocide. Jesus
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we can't be fucking offering
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condolences to him. He didn't
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like the fact that we
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were murdering Palestinian children and
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I'm not sure any of
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that was said but probably
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something along those lines and
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at the same time they
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deleted the post they sent
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messages out to Israeli diplomatic
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missions all around the world
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and ordered them to delete
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any similar messages of of
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sympathy over the passing of
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the Pope they were also
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ordered not to sign any
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local condolence books or to
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sign anything at the Vatican
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yes It's
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pathetic, isn't it? How
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dare the Pope
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condemn the fact that
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the Israelis have
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killed at least 13
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,000 children since October
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2023. And I'm not
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going to do that bullshit that the
8:59
BBC always does where you have
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to mention the October 23rd attack by
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Hamas. I'm not going to do
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that. My word is my
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bond. Violence is wrong no
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matter who commits it. although there's
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a grey area when it comes
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to the occupied having every right
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under the sun to resist the
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occupation but that doesn't extend to
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killing women and children not in
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my book but anyway I'm not
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going to do that shit at
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least 13 ,000 according to who
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well the BBC would say well
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according to the Gaza Ministry of
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Health which is run by Hamas
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the BBC will say at the
9:36
speed of light the Gaza Ministry
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of Health which is run by
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Hamas No, no, no. It's UNICEF.
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It saved the children. It's the
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Red Cross. Yeah. At
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least 13 ,000 children.
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So the Pope didn't like that because the Holy
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Father is supposed to have a special affinity
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with children. So the Israeli said, delete all of
9:56
those messages now as fast as you bloody
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well can. I could
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mention the malnutrition, the
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psychological trauma, the starvation
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that's going on in Gaza right
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now. Pope didn't like that either. And
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listen, if you've been following this, you
10:11
know, kneecap. Now,
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I gave up listening to rap music when
10:15
House of Pain called it a day, top
10:17
of the morning to you. I
10:19
don't know. I love them
10:22
Beastie Boys and ill communication. I
10:24
didn't like any black rap because
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I'm a racist. It's as simple as
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that. It's an old gag
10:31
now, isn't it? It's an old gag.
10:33
But I liked ill communication by the
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Beastie Boys. So I liked a
10:37
bit of rap when it was clever. Not
10:39
your rap is clever anymore, but Ni
10:41
Cap is an Irish Republican rap group. How
10:43
niche, right? And
10:46
they are being investigated by
10:48
anti -terror police. Why?
10:52
Well, apparently they've been, well,
10:54
they've been talking up
10:56
Palestine, but they've been talking
10:58
up Hamas too allegedly
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when they've been gigging. Now
11:03
they were in California at
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the weekend at Coachella and
11:07
they used their slot their
11:10
allotted time to perform their
11:12
music but also to display
11:14
a slogan a banner which
11:16
stated fuck Israel free Palestine
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even I tend to be
11:20
a tad more diplomatic than
11:23
fuck Israel because it's a
11:25
bit more complex what Israel
11:27
is and the people who
11:29
live there but fair enough
11:31
you're either for free speech
11:34
or you're not so out
11:36
they came to play their
11:38
music i've never heard a
11:40
single kneecap song kneecap they're
11:42
a republican rap group called
11:44
kneecap i love it i
11:47
remember years ago bursting
11:49
into tears laughing in the UK
11:51
in a bookie office why were you
11:53
in a bookie office I was
11:55
in a bookie office because I was
11:57
picking up some pools coupons for
11:59
the football and while I was in
12:01
there I noticed there was a
12:03
greyhound race going on and the leading
12:06
dog in the race was called
12:08
Chucky our paw and I about fell
12:10
around the place pissing myself laughing
12:12
much to the bemusement of the mostly
12:14
British people in the bookie shop
12:16
what are you laughing at And I
12:18
said, lads, chucky or paw. Chucky
12:21
or paw. Nobody laughed. Chucky
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or paw. No.
12:26
Chucky or fucking paw. Chucky or law.
12:28
Chucky or law. Our day will come.
12:30
Chucky or paw. They still didn't get
12:32
it, so I left the bookies and
12:34
that was the end of that. But
12:36
I found it funny. So kneecap. That
12:38
makes me laugh in any case. The
12:41
IRA were bastards, by the
12:43
way. Most of them. and I'm
12:45
a nationalist they were kneecapping
12:47
people and stuff killing people in
12:49
front of their wives but
12:51
anyway and so were the UVF
12:54
and all the other fuckers
12:56
up there madmen but anyway so
12:58
last year kneecap did a
13:00
gig when one of the band
13:02
members shouted up Hamas up
13:04
Hezbollah and at the same time
13:06
he was draped in a
13:08
flag that was either Hezbollah or
13:10
Hamas So the Metropolitan Police
13:12
has now referred the footage of
13:15
Necap to a counter -terrorism unit
13:17
to assess whether the material
13:19
breaks UK terrorism laws. This is
13:21
tyranny, of course. You have
13:23
every right to tell me that
13:25
Necap is just a bunch
13:27
of fucking morons and they might
13:29
be, I don't know, but
13:31
don't be referring to them, referring
13:34
them to anti -terror people. Anyway,
13:36
Sharon Osborn, wife of
13:38
Ozzy, who's still alive, and
13:41
going while not quite strong
13:43
he's going he's going anyway he'll
13:45
be in Birmingham in the
13:47
summer for his final ever gig
13:49
Aussie Sharon Osborne is called
13:51
for kneecap to have their working
13:53
visa revoked Sharon comes
13:55
from a mixed family of people.
13:58
Her father, who was a big man
14:00
in the music business. He was
14:02
Jewish, and I think her
14:04
mother's side, Irish Catholic, I do
14:06
believe. So she wants them kicked
14:08
out. I don't like what you say, therefore
14:10
I want you cancelled. I want you
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denied the opportunity to make a book.
14:15
It's not the Sharon Osburn that
14:17
I imagined. Watching the Osburns
14:20
all those years ago. I thought
14:22
she had thicker skin than that, but
14:24
obviously not. Anyway, today
14:26
at Prime Minister's Questions, Zara
14:28
Sultana. Great name. That'll
14:31
be a name you might take if
14:33
your name was Mary Murphy. And
14:35
you could sing like Adele. That's
14:37
the kind of stage name you might
14:39
take. Zara Sultana. It's fantastic. What's
14:41
your real name, Mary Murphy? I understand. Totally
14:44
get it. Zara Sultana. She used
14:46
to be in the Labour Party. She
14:48
was suspended. She had
14:50
a question at the very
14:53
tail end of Prime Minister's questions
14:55
for the Prime Minister, Keir
14:57
Starmer. What was your question, Zara
14:59
Sultana? Thank you, Mr Speaker.
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Last week, humanitarian law organisations applied
15:03
for an arrest warrant for
15:05
Israeli Foreign Minister Gideon Sahr over
15:08
alleged war crimes in Gaza,
15:10
including the siege of Kamal, Adwan
15:12
Hospital and the torture of
15:14
its director, Dr Sam Abu Safir.
15:16
Yet the red carpet was
15:18
rolled out. Sahr has justified blocking
15:21
vital humanitarian aid into Gaza, backed
15:23
their legal annexation of Palestinian land
15:25
and rejected a Palestinian state. The Prime
15:27
Minister is a human rights lawyer
15:30
so surely he knows that the UK
15:32
has a legal duty to uphold
15:34
international law. Why then did he block
15:36
the arrest of an unindicted war
15:38
criminal? I
15:40
didn't. Right,
15:42
that completes Brian Suss's question. Yeah,
15:44
he's an arrogant scumbag scummer, isn't
15:46
he? He is audious in the
15:48
extreme. So what is it about
15:50
then? I'll tell you what it's
15:53
about. Gideon Sahr, Israel's
15:55
foreign minister, a criminal
15:57
no doubt. Last
15:59
Wednesday, the Global Legal
16:01
Action Network, the
16:04
International Centre of Justice
16:06
for Palestinians and the
16:08
Hind Rajab Foundation all
16:10
submitted a warrant request. They
16:13
requested a warrant from the UK's
16:15
Attorney General. They requested a warrant
16:17
be issued to arrest the little
16:19
thug when he arrived in the
16:21
UK. Now of course
16:23
he got wind of this and he
16:25
was going to cancel the trip. He was
16:27
meeting David Lambie. Now he eventually turned
16:29
up. Why? He turned up
16:31
because the Attorney General denied the
16:34
request for the arrest warrant
16:36
for the criminal Kidian Sarr. the
16:38
Attorney General said he has
16:40
immunity as a diplomat but he
16:42
doesn't of course he does
16:44
not have immunity it doesn't work
16:46
quite like that diplomats do
16:48
have certain immunities when traveling in
16:50
foreign countries under so -called diplomatic
16:52
immunity but not for what's
16:54
gone on in Gaza but Israel
16:56
can do what it likes. Sultana
16:59
Zara Sultana or Mary Murphy
17:01
tweeted a bit later on it
17:03
is astonishing that Starmer insists
17:05
he had no role in blocking
17:08
a warrant for the unindicted
17:10
war criminal. Who's lying she asked
17:12
because someone is my money
17:14
would of course be on Keir
17:16
Starmer. It's 17 minutes past
17:18
the hour. Shall we stay with
17:21
Starmer and his lifelong struggle
17:23
with understanding what a woman is
17:25
and what a woman isn't
17:27
because this fecking story just won't
17:29
go away. He has
17:31
refused Starmer to apologize to another
17:33
former Labour MP who criticised
17:36
his approach on transgender issues. I'm
17:38
speaking of Rosie Duffield of
17:40
course who now sits alone in
17:42
the House of Commons as
17:44
an independent. She was
17:46
hounded out of the Labour
17:49
Party for Well, standing
17:51
up for the rights of biological women
17:53
is about right, I think. She quit
17:55
the party in September last year. She
17:57
said at the time because of the
17:59
Free Bees scandal. But there was
18:01
a lot to do. It had a lot
18:03
to do with the whole trans nonsense. So,
18:06
Kenny Badenock at Prime Minister's
18:08
questions today wanted to put
18:10
this to Keir Starmer. Mr
18:13
Speaker, does the Prime Minister
18:15
now accept that when he said that
18:17
it was the law that trans women
18:19
were women. He was wrong. Well,
18:22
Mr Speaker, let me be
18:24
clear. I welcome the Supreme Court
18:26
ruling. Let Me Be Clear
18:28
is a prelude to a lie.
18:30
Is the prelude to a
18:32
lie, isn't it? No matter which
18:35
politician begins an answer with
18:37
Let Me Be Clear, I'm going
18:39
to vomit out of my
18:41
mouth now a volcano of lies.
18:43
And he doesn't disappoint. On
18:46
this issue, it brings
18:48
clarity and it will give
18:50
confidence to women and, of
18:52
course, to service providers. The
18:54
Equality and Human Rights Commission
18:56
will now issue updated guidance,
18:59
and it's important that that
19:01
happens. To hear this bollocks
19:03
from Starmer about the Supreme
19:05
Court ruling will give confidence
19:07
and assurance to service providers.
19:10
There was no need
19:12
for any of that. All
19:15
they had to do in
19:17
the last four, five, six years
19:19
was say that any service
19:21
provider who refuses to allow a
19:23
man use facilities that were
19:26
put in place for a woman,
19:28
that service provider will not be
19:30
sued. That's all they had to
19:33
say. If you don't want blokes in
19:35
the women's toilets, you don't have
19:37
blokes in the women's toilets. You have
19:39
the full support of the government. It's
19:41
all they needed to say. Any more
19:43
of this from Starmer? And that all
19:45
service providers then act accordingly. This
19:47
government's approach and my approach has
19:49
been as follows. To support and implement
19:51
the Supreme Court ruling and we
19:53
will. To continue to protect
19:55
single sex spaces based on biological sex.
19:58
Yadda yadda yadda and he goes
20:00
on to say and to protect trans
20:02
people from discrimination. what
20:04
is bad and I'll come back
20:06
with Mr Speaker he can't bring
20:08
himself to admit that he was
20:10
wrong that was the question but
20:13
he spoke about respect and dignity
20:15
and compassion and luring the temperature
20:17
so will he now apologize to
20:19
the member for Canterbury the very
20:21
brave member for Canterbury for hounding
20:23
her out of the Labour Party
20:25
simply for telling the truth and
20:28
again it's Rosie Dorfield right I've
20:32
always approached this on the
20:34
basis that we should treat everyone
20:36
with dignity and respect, whatever their
20:38
different views, and I'll continue to
20:40
do so. And I'll tell
20:42
you, Mr Speaker, for why? Because when
20:44
we lose sight of that approach and make
20:46
this a political football, as
20:48
happened in the past, then
20:50
we end up with the spectacle
20:53
of a decent man, and he
20:55
was a decent man, the previous
20:57
Prime Minister, Diminishing himself
20:59
at this dispatch box by
21:01
making trans jokes whilst the
21:03
mother of murdered trans teenager
21:05
watched from the public gallery
21:07
just up there. Remember
21:09
that when Brianna joy Brianna
21:12
was a young boy who
21:14
had gender dysphoria and dressed
21:16
as as a girl and
21:18
was brutally murdered by two.
21:21
kids he thought were his friends, and I'm
21:23
not saying his now to be a
21:25
bastard. He was a boy going
21:27
through issues. Well, Brianna
21:29
Joy's parents or
21:31
mother came to witness
21:33
Prime Minister's questions
21:35
last year, maybe very
21:37
early last year, and
21:40
Stammer seemingly, sorry, sorry,
21:42
sorry, sorry, Rishi Sunak seemingly made
21:44
some pretty crude reference to trans people.
21:46
In any case, let's hear a
21:48
bit more. Mr. Speaker, there
21:50
is no apology for the member
21:52
for Canterbury. There is no taking
21:54
of responsibility. He talks about political
21:56
football. He practically kicked her out
21:58
of his party. Constructive
22:00
dismissal. Constructive dismissal. He
22:03
talks about... I'll save you
22:05
the suspense. Stammer
22:07
doesn't offer any acknowledgement of,
22:09
let alone an apology
22:11
to Rosie Dorfield. Let's
22:13
finish with the trans nonsense. Adrian
22:15
Ramsey is the... a co -leader
22:17
of the green party pay
22:20
attention to the greens they're about
22:22
to become a lot more
22:24
popular at least that's how I
22:26
see it why do I
22:28
see it like that we talked
22:30
about it earlier in the
22:32
week and last week didn't we
22:34
the government is determined to
22:36
change the law to allow 16
22:38
year olds vote which
22:40
would mean 17 year olds could vote
22:43
as well I couldn't give a
22:45
shite to be honest who votes and
22:47
who doesn't vote but I think
22:49
one of the reasons that's coming in
22:51
and Starmer won't be the architect
22:53
of it of course not he's just
22:55
doing what he's told it's because
22:57
they plan the Greens and the Lib
22:59
Dems I think to take the
23:01
next steps on the great reset road
23:03
to climate madness I don't
23:06
know what any of that meant,
23:08
I just said there. But you
23:10
know what I mean? To take
23:12
the climate steps on the great
23:14
reset wrote to madness. There you
23:16
go. So Adrian Ramsey, Green Party
23:19
co -leader was on Radio 4
23:21
this morning, Nick Robinson with The
23:23
Question. This week your co -leader gave
23:25
a speech in Bristol at a
23:27
trans rights rally in which she
23:29
said and I quote, it's essential
23:32
that politicians advocate for trans rights
23:34
to be quotes enshrined and strengthened
23:36
through the law, is
23:38
it now Green Party policy that new
23:40
laws are needed, new divisions, some
23:42
would say, need to be created in
23:44
order to ensure trans rights are
23:47
preserved? I've always
23:49
been clear that I want our
23:51
party to be a welcoming and inclusive
23:53
party for people of different identities
23:55
and people with different views on this
23:57
very divisive and sensitive issue in
23:59
society which we need to be able
24:01
to discuss in a grown -up way
24:03
and recognizing that people are feeling
24:05
hurt and worried at the moment but
24:07
also recognizing that it's a very
24:09
complex issue and we need to provide
24:11
services in a way that meets needs
24:15
and protects their dignity, women and trans people.
24:17
needs to be changed, yes or no Mr.
24:19
Ramsay? I don't think
24:21
that's clear yet, we need
24:23
to see the implications of the
24:25
ruling and the government hasn't
24:27
yet set out what this now
24:29
means for how trans people
24:31
access services as well as women
24:33
being able to access services.
24:35
Fairly simple, access the services that
24:37
correspond with your biological sex
24:39
or access whatever facilities they might
24:41
offer to men and women,
24:43
offer access those which correspond
24:46
with whatever is inside your
24:48
undercrackers. It couldn't be any
24:50
simpler. And I'm all for
24:52
providing mental health outreach services
24:54
for people going through gender
24:56
dysphoria. Of course I am,
24:58
because I'm not a bastard.
25:01
And that's the last I'm going
25:03
to talk about that subject for
25:05
quite a long time, unless a
25:07
tranny goes crazy and takes an
25:09
M16 into Parliament. Imagine
25:12
it. I don't hope that
25:14
happens, by the way, in case I get
25:16
reported. Imagine a tranny
25:18
went nuts with an AK -47
25:20
in the House of Commons during
25:22
PMQ's. Fantastic! Brilliant.
25:26
Trannies don't do it. I'm not urging you
25:28
to do it. Patricia, thanks
25:30
for your message. I'm going
25:32
to save it until we
25:34
speak with Mark, shortly Mark
25:36
Manning. It's really good, by the
25:38
way. Thanks, Patricia. Hi to Corky, who's in
25:40
slow. Richie loving your story
25:42
about the Greyhound with the iffy name. I
25:45
was in the bookies the other day
25:47
and the dog in Trap 3 running
25:49
in the 715 at Hove. I love
25:51
the detail Corky. It's wonderful. Let me
25:53
start again. Corky was
25:55
in the bookies the other
25:57
day and the dog in
25:59
Trap 3 in the 715
26:01
at Hove was called Pop
26:03
Guardiola. Yes
26:06
Corky. That's
26:08
as good as Chucky or Paul to
26:10
be honest. Pop Quartiola. Let's play
26:12
a game, not today. We'll play it
26:14
another day. Let's come up with
26:16
some funny names for Greyhounds. Regards to
26:18
all in BBG Towers and my
26:20
old mate Mike Rokock in County. Down,
26:22
thank you Corky, good evening Mike. Kev
26:25
says, Richie, Inglebert Humperdink, a
26:28
howl on hump that donk.
26:30
Fantastic. Brilliant. Hi
26:33
to Paul. Richie, ironic that
26:35
Starmer's dad was a... as
26:38
he repeatedly boasts. Starmer is
26:40
definitely a tool both of the
26:42
world economic forum and in
26:44
the vernacular use of the world
26:46
where claustrophob is gone from
26:48
the world economic forum and there
26:51
are rumors of misappropriation of
26:53
funds. Now those rumors
26:55
could be absolute nonsense I don't
26:57
know but into his place
26:59
steps your man Peter Brabeck. Remember
27:01
him from Nestle? Remember that
27:03
prick who said that water wasn't
27:05
a human right you remember?
27:07
Peter Brabeck yes he'll be he'll
27:09
do fine at the World
27:11
Economic Forum yeah water is not
27:13
a human right no no
27:16
it isn't say it to me
27:18
face say it to me
27:20
face yes good evening to Ian
27:22
Richie if we go back
27:24
to the days of common sense
27:26
will we not have a
27:28
happier continent Starmer belongs in the
27:30
stocks he's a programmed messenger
27:32
But he is the puppet master.
27:35
Thanks and that's Ian and Manila. Paul
27:38
says he's a wretched individual Starmer.
27:41
Rob says could Starmer be
27:43
the biggest TWAT in the
27:45
universe? Carlos says Wittering T -W
27:48
-A -T -S, grotesque distraction, high
27:50
two rubolo, Downing Street is
27:52
a mutual admiration society at
27:54
our expense, useless. Good evening
27:56
to Steven, my brother Brent came
27:58
out of hospital yesterday and is
28:00
recovering from heart surgery. Well that's
28:02
lovely Steven. Steven mentioned on this
28:04
program last week that his brother
28:06
was not well and was having
28:09
surgery on his heart which is
28:11
no small thing right. But
28:13
he's out of surgery, he's recovering and he's
28:15
doing well. I'm delighted to hear it pal.
28:17
Sounds like you love your brother Stephen and
28:19
that is a massive weight off your shoulders
28:21
pal. Delighted to hear it. I really
28:23
am. Lovely that. Well done. Well done
28:25
him. Apple was fined 500
28:27
million euro today. Meta was
28:29
fined 200 million. Because
28:31
according to the European
28:33
Union, both companies, both big
28:35
tech companies are in
28:37
violation of antitrust regulation. In
28:40
other words, they're They're
28:42
working together, together, in
28:44
cahoots with other big tech companies
28:47
to keep the small providers out
28:49
of the market. Does
28:51
it mean anything? I'm not
28:53
sure. Is it a win for
28:55
competition? I'm not sure. I have no idea.
28:58
Apple says we'll challenge the fine.
29:00
Meta says we'll challenge the fine.
29:02
That's what they're planning on doing. It's
29:05
29 minutes past the hour.
29:07
It's the Richie Allen Show
29:09
for Wednesday, April 23rd. It
29:11
is St. George's Day in
29:13
England's green and pleasant land.
29:16
I nearly bought a pub in
29:18
Nottingham 15 years ago. And
29:20
during the course of the the
29:22
tribe before you, boy, I
29:25
took part in St. George's
29:27
Day festivities. Would you
29:29
believe on St. George's Day?
29:32
and I made a lot of friends, people who
29:34
I still consider to be friends even though
29:36
it's been a long time since we've hooked up.
29:38
It was a great day all together, so
29:40
it was. They pheasant in
29:42
in Radford in Nottingham. There
29:44
was about 1500 people
29:46
outside the pub all afternoon,
29:49
all evening, decked out in
29:51
the St George's Cross, in the flag,
29:53
in England's shirts, scarves
29:55
the whole lot. Fantastic beer was
29:57
coft was coft I tell you
29:59
there wasn't even a raised voice
30:01
let alone a fight let alone
30:03
anything was all brilliant I remembered
30:06
like it was yesterday it was
30:08
great so it was and. In
30:10
a minute in the moment
30:12
Nigel Farage was on a BBC
30:14
radio for this morning as
30:17
well and he was asked does
30:19
his reform party have a
30:21
climate change policy I think you'll
30:23
find it interesting. But
30:25
in the meantime download my
30:27
app. Download the Richie Allen Show
30:29
app now at Google Play
30:31
or Apple's App Store. For more
30:33
details visit richieallon .co .uk Yes
30:35
do it now. Do it forever
30:37
more. Right what else
30:39
is there to tell you? Well
30:41
Farage! Nigel Farage was on
30:43
BBC Radio 4's Today programme this
30:46
morning with the same presenter Nick
30:48
Robinson. Farage was on there
30:50
to bitch and to whine about
30:52
net zero policies. But to
30:54
be fair to the presenter, give him his
30:56
due, he wanted to tie
30:58
Farage down on what exactly would
31:00
his party's policies be. What would
31:02
your approach to climate change be?
31:05
Does he get an answer? Will
31:07
you be the judge of it? Here's
31:09
the exchange. Richard Tice, who's your deputy
31:11
leader, said last year, net zero will
31:13
make zero difference. Yes, it will zero.
31:16
Absolutely zero. you're saying not just
31:18
we should go slower, we should
31:20
scrap all objectives, all targets to
31:23
reduce our carbon emissions, forget it.
31:25
We've already reduced our carbon emissions
31:27
by 50 % since 1990, more than
31:29
any other country in the world.
31:35
Do you want to scrap all
31:37
targets? Do you think there's no
31:39
need for climate change policy at
31:41
all? I think we should scrap
31:43
the next zero targets. Yes, absolutely. I
31:45
think they're going to make zero difference to the world. What
31:47
is your policy? Well,
31:50
Nick, you better go and
31:52
talk to the Chinese about that.
31:54
What's your policy for producing
31:56
climate change? What a gutless, wretched
31:58
little turd Farage is. Just
32:01
answer the fucking question. If
32:03
you're in government next
32:05
week, what will you do
32:07
to stop cataclysmic climate
32:09
change Nigel? Farage, of
32:11
course, is a bullshit or a grift or
32:13
extraordinary. If he was real,
32:15
of course, he would say, anthropological
32:18
climate change is a load
32:20
of bollocks anthropogenic it's a
32:22
load of nonsense man -made
32:25
climate change is junk science
32:27
Nick so no forage yeah
32:29
shall we leave forage alone
32:31
shall we yes it is
32:33
the Richie Allen show Mark
32:36
Manning will be on the
32:38
program we're going to talk
32:40
about all things paranormal I
32:42
can't wait for this, I love it.
32:44
Hi to Maria in Surrey. Maybe
32:46
a naive question. Where
32:49
does the fine money from Meta
32:51
and Co go? Who gets it?
32:53
Well, who officially gets it anyway?
32:55
That's an excellent question, Maria. And
32:57
I'd be a liar if I said I knew the
32:59
answer for a fact. I don't know. What
33:02
does an organization like
33:04
the European Union do
33:06
with fines? Maybe
33:09
it takes that money and
33:11
distributes it into various programs.
33:14
I've no idea. It's a good question. It's
33:16
worth looking up. Maybe I should know. Julie
33:19
came back to say, I bet loads
33:21
of them had just come from the Great
33:23
Variety Club on Radford Road after playing
33:25
bingo and seeing the stripper. Well, you know
33:28
what happened, Julie? The
33:30
St. George's Day Parade, it
33:32
proceeded all the way through Nottingham
33:34
City Centre. and then it
33:36
ended, the parade ended right outside
33:38
the pheasant in Radford so
33:40
the entire street was closed off
33:43
by the very helpful police
33:45
at the time and the local
33:47
authority so that entire street
33:49
where the pheasant is and as
33:51
I said 1500, 2000 people
33:53
then congregated and we had great
33:56
crack, there were sing songs
33:58
and all of that going on
34:00
I didn't stand behind the
34:02
bar the ladies I I
34:05
worked with and who would have
34:07
worked for me if we bought
34:09
the pub in Nottingham but the
34:11
ladies were brilliant they said Richie
34:14
you're very new you don't know
34:16
where everything is and you're also
34:18
a very large bollocks so just
34:20
keep the glasses coming back into
34:22
the bar and the kegs connected.
34:24
to the pumps and all of
34:27
that that's what i did i
34:29
wandered around for about 10 hours
34:31
outside collecting glasses speaking with people
34:33
joining in the sing songs and
34:35
it was a lovely day and
34:37
that was exactly 15 years ago
34:40
today which is kind of amazing
34:42
to me really hello to masher
34:44
hello masher find 500 million Slash
34:46
200 million Richie who gets that
34:48
money again good question same question
34:51
posed by Maria I don't know.
34:53
Hello to Debs who says Bon
34:55
Diada, St. Geordi the day of
34:57
roses and books in Catalonia. Thank
34:59
you Debs. David Bramble says Farage
35:01
isn't only a pipe -piper to
35:04
the disaffected with the global agenda.
35:06
He is a full bag pipe
35:08
puffer. He's just an actress as
35:10
David stuffed him. Okay I'm going
35:12
to take a tune. When
35:14
we come back, I might read one or
35:17
two more of your messages and then we
35:19
will introduce my guest today. His name is
35:21
Mark Manning. You've heard him on this program
35:23
before. He is an Irish broadcaster, a
35:25
voiceover artist. He is a teacher
35:27
as well. Podcast toast. He's
35:29
got this wonderful podcast. It's
35:31
called Scary Era. It's
35:33
in season two. You'll find it. Aira
35:35
is E -I -O -R -E or E -Fod. I
35:37
-O -R -E. You'll find Mark on Twitter
35:40
at Mark Manning. Do give him a
35:42
follow. He's a hell of a nice
35:44
guy. So he'll be on with me.
35:46
I'm gonna have a good air with
35:48
Mark. And I do look forward to
35:50
reading some of your own... I suppose,
35:52
brushes. Your
35:54
own brushes with the paranormal. Have
35:56
you had any? I haven't. I'd
35:59
love to though. And I do mean
36:01
that. I wouldn't be at all now...
36:03
going on some of those tours where
36:05
you go and visit some of the
36:08
some of the more places in
36:11
any country's history. you know,
36:13
places where people were
36:15
imprisoned, executed, know all these
36:17
places, these great castles where many things happened,
36:19
where many battles were fought and stuff
36:21
like that. But Ireland has a great history,
36:23
like I suppose like most countries, but
36:25
Ireland has a really wonderful history when it
36:28
comes to the paranormal. Mark's all over
36:30
it. I want to talk about it. It'll
36:32
be nice to get away from hard
36:34
news for a while and this is the
36:36
reason why I invited him. on today. Music
36:39
now from Colin James. Yes.
36:45
And this is surely I love
36:47
you surely surely surely, surely. Congratulations
36:53
to Sean Murphy by the
36:55
way, and to Ronnie O'Sullivan there
36:57
in the next round of
36:59
the snooker Surely,
37:01
surely, surely.
37:08
Well, I
37:10
love, I love, I I
37:12
love, I love, I love you.
37:16
I come rain, I come snow, I
37:18
come, I come sunshine. Your
37:23
love would stop
37:25
the rain. It
37:27
would melt the snow, because
37:30
you're mine, mine.
37:33
And all I got to
37:35
say, when
37:37
I feel this way, is
37:40
that I, I.
37:43
I love, I love, I I
37:45
love, I love, I
37:47
love you. Well,
37:50
I love you
37:52
because, darling,
37:55
you're so real. You
37:58
show this heart
38:00
of mine. I'll
38:02
rave to the
38:04
lovin' all of
38:06
your heat Sully,
38:08
Sully, Sully, Sully
38:11
Ah, ah,
38:14
ah Oh,
38:16
it's enough Ah,
38:30
ah Ah,
38:58
ah, ah ś
39:16
ś I love
39:18
you because ś
39:21
ś Honey you're
39:23
so real ś
39:25
You show my aching heart
39:28
ś How real do
39:30
you love it of you ś
39:32
ś It's too late ś
39:34
Too late ś
39:36
Too late ś ś
39:39
I ś ś
39:41
I ś I ś
39:44
I ś Well I
39:46
love ś ś I love ś I love
39:48
ś I love ś
39:50
I love
39:52
ś Paul
40:14
and James and surely I love
40:16
you on the Richie Allen Show Wednesday
40:18
23rd. It's a bin day tomorrow
40:20
in Salford bin day. Bin men will
40:23
be around. Black bin. Black bin.
40:25
They collected once every three weeks. The
40:27
fuckers. Once every three weeks. Black
40:29
bin tomorrow. I think black brown and
40:31
pink tomorrow. Brown is your cans and your
40:33
plastics. And the pink bin
40:36
is for your garden, trimmings
40:38
and also your waste food.
40:40
I'm doing my bit for recycling and
40:42
for the planet. because I'm a
40:45
lovely guy. I surely am lovely.
40:48
Now, Camille, I tell you, I'd
40:50
love to hear your thoughts on
40:52
what Mark will be discussing with me
40:54
in a few minutes time. You
40:56
may very well have had
40:59
experience of something... I don't know
41:01
how to phrase this. I
41:03
often feel like an Egypt, like
41:05
something paranormal. I obviously grew
41:07
up in Ireland, in Waterford, and
41:09
quite often when I was young,
41:12
when I was very young, when
41:14
Christmas time would come around
41:16
or Easter time would come around
41:18
and the adults would have
41:20
a couple of beers as they
41:22
invariably would every now and
41:24
then they would get to talking
41:26
about the paranormal they would
41:29
about strange unexplained things that would
41:31
happen sometimes these strange occurrences
41:33
would happen around somebody passing on
41:35
somebody dying or something along
41:37
those lines and as a young
41:39
story would be absolutely fascinated
41:41
by these stories by the sincerity
41:43
of them you know that
41:45
these were stories that people believed
41:48
to have actually happened and
41:50
it sparked in me a real
41:52
interest in it as I
41:54
said at the top of the
41:56
program I've always been interested
41:58
in scary films and scary books
42:00
scary books horror books James
42:04
Herbert, Stephen King, Clive
42:06
Barker, there are others. These are books I would
42:08
have read when I was a kid, so I
42:11
was always fascinated by this type of thing. As
42:13
a youngster I was a bit of
42:15
a coward in some ways, in other ways
42:17
I wasn't a coward. I
42:19
never ran away from a fight, right? foolishly.
42:22
There are many times when you
42:24
should run away from a fight but
42:26
I didn't and sometimes I paid
42:28
the price for not running away but
42:30
that's okay too right but going
42:32
going into graveyards and stuff very late
42:34
in the evening I was never
42:36
up for that sort of carry on
42:38
now. It just wasn't for me
42:41
because I was convinced if I was
42:43
to race through said Graveyard
42:45
and the Graveyard in question
42:47
would have been at Balian and
42:49
Asha in Waterford on the
42:51
Cork Road just out just across
42:53
the road from Bali Beg.
42:55
A grand and very vast cemetery.
42:57
I was like no that's not
43:00
for me either. It's 17
43:02
minutes to the top of the air now. On
43:04
the money the fines
43:06
being levied against Facebook
43:09
and Twitter or Facebook
43:11
and is it Twitter?
43:14
Was it Twitter? I said it
43:16
was X. It was X. Apple,
43:18
Apple, Apple, Apple, Apple. Not X.
43:20
X has nothing to do with
43:22
it. Apple and Facebook. Joe reckons
43:24
the fines will likely go to
43:26
Ukraine or the £800 billion weapon
43:29
slush fund says, Joe, that's his
43:31
take on it. Maybe. Maybe you're
43:33
right. Hi to Darren. Whatever
43:35
your view of Farage, one of
43:37
the obvious plus points of his
43:39
manifesto is Darren says fuck net
43:41
zero. But Darren, do you really
43:43
believe if reform was in power
43:46
tomorrow that they would scrap net
43:48
zero? For me,
43:50
this is a real tragedy
43:52
that people are still
43:54
fooled by populists. It
43:56
doesn't matter how many times the
43:58
populist lets you down when he
44:00
eventually gets into power. You
44:03
actually believe that if reform was
44:05
to win a majority, which
44:07
is not going to happen. at
44:09
least I don't think it's going
44:11
to happen not unless somebody wants it
44:14
to happen you think that they
44:16
would pursue this net you know they
44:18
would drop net zero and they
44:20
would come out and say climate change
44:22
is nonsense you know James says
44:24
some say recycling just goes in with
44:26
all the other rubbish now I
44:28
heard a campaigner on this very point
44:31
speaking on BBC radio the other
44:33
morning and the campaigner was given plenty
44:35
of time by the BBC and
44:37
she said it is nonsense.
44:39
Most of what we think we
44:41
are recycling by separating out our
44:44
rubbish into the various bins. It
44:46
is not even being recycled. It's
44:48
being sent overseas. So
44:50
that's a very interesting point by
44:52
James. Hi to Elizabeth.
44:55
Richie, you're not sorting your garbage because
44:57
you're good. You're doing it because it
44:59
doesn't all fit in the black bin. That's
45:02
true as well, I suppose. That
45:05
is true as well. Right,
45:07
Mark is standing by. Once
45:09
again, I'd love to hear
45:11
questions even for Mark on
45:13
this area of research, which
45:16
is absolutely fascinating. He
45:18
presents, he
45:20
presents, he produces
45:22
a podcast called Scary Era. which
45:24
is in its second season
45:26
now, it began its second season
45:28
last month, yes. And
45:31
he's there, I think, but while I
45:33
get him on, I'm just
45:35
going to take another musical interlude because
45:37
he wants me to check my messages,
45:39
okay. Music from the Mavericks,
45:41
back. There's plenty more in a moment
45:43
on Wednesdays, Richie Allen Show. And
46:00
I won't even put
46:02
up a fight As
46:05
long as they're
46:07
loving tonight She's
46:11
always getting
46:13
away With
46:15
little or nothing
46:17
to say When
46:21
I know she's wrong,
46:23
that's alright As
46:26
long as they're
46:28
loving tonight Well
46:31
alright, okay, she
46:34
wins again Well
46:36
I've seen this song
46:38
before How our
46:40
story ends The gifts
46:42
I get rid of
46:44
She always calls goodbye Well
46:47
in time I'm coming
46:49
to find It's my
46:51
favorite line Well
47:14
no one's to play our craze
47:19
Right, it's Immortal Sin, but let's get rid
47:21
of Raul Mallow, that's his name, lead
47:23
singer of the Mavericks, and let's
47:26
welcome our guest today. I've already
47:28
told you he's an Irish broadcaster,
47:30
he's a teacher, he is a
47:32
voiceover specialist, and is the host
47:34
of the Scary Era podcast, which
47:37
I came across when kind of
47:39
hanging around his YouTube channel earlier
47:41
in the year. It just began
47:43
its second season, and I asked
47:45
him to come on and talk
47:47
about it. Because as I've already
47:50
said, it is an area of
47:52
research that I find eminently fascinating.
47:55
You'll find him on Twitter under his
47:57
name It's Mark Manning. It's a
47:59
real pleasure to welcome back to the
48:01
program from the old sod, our
48:03
friend Mark Manning. Welcome back. How are
48:05
you doing, Mark? Richie, number one,
48:07
can you hear me? We can hear
48:09
you. I'm concerned now, though, that
48:11
you're going to be crippled by Echo
48:14
coming back at you, which we
48:16
won't hear. but it'll be very disconcerting
48:18
for you. But I hope, um,
48:20
I hope that's not the case. You
48:22
are incredibly welcome here, Mark. It's
48:24
lovely to have you back. And,
48:26
um, I love the podcast. I
48:28
love scary era. Uh, the reason
48:30
why I asked you to come
48:32
on, it's fantastic. Do you want
48:34
to tell us a little bit
48:37
about it? What led you to
48:39
do it? And where did your
48:41
interest in the paranormal and paranormal
48:43
stories in Ireland? Where did it
48:45
come from? Hold
48:47
that thought Richie. Can you hear
48:49
me? We're getting it loud and clear
48:51
Okay, that's the main thing so
48:53
just between you and I and I
48:55
know the folks don't want to
48:57
talk technical I have never had Skype
48:59
not load for me before right
49:01
I was in IT for many years.
49:03
I know my stuff never had
49:05
that happen before So as long as
49:08
you can hear me, I love
49:10
the sound in my own voice and
49:12
if I hear a couple of
49:14
echoes so We can hear you loud
49:16
and clear I wonder is it
49:18
because Skype is basically being put out
49:20
to start Microsoft is getting rid
49:22
of Skype and it wants to move
49:24
everybody on to teams and this
49:26
is meant to happen by May 1st
49:28
so I wonder is that why
49:30
you experience some issues market it might
49:32
be. Well it
49:34
could be but I'm as
49:36
we speak I'm gonna fire
49:39
up a second PC. and
49:41
try and load Skype onto that.
49:43
But now that we're nice and
49:45
cosy together, my favourite old disco
49:47
biscuit, I'll talk to you about
49:49
the paranormal and scary area. Is
49:52
that OK? Brilliant. Yeah, look, it's
49:54
a brilliant podcast. It just begun,
49:57
well, season two began
49:59
last month, if I'm
50:01
right, in March. Where
50:03
did the idea come from
50:05
and where did your own interest
50:08
in the paranormal originate? I'm
50:10
very impressed by your research.
50:12
Tell me. Mr Allen. Very
50:14
good. Yeah, we're into season
50:16
two. Okay,
50:19
so I've been thinking about this actually.
50:22
And I usually jump into a paranormal
50:24
experience that happened to me when I
50:26
was about seven or eight, when I
50:28
literally came face to face with what
50:30
looked like an apparition. But it goes
50:32
back a little bit further than that. Of
50:35
course, you will remember The
50:37
Late Late Show in Ireland, hosted by Dave
50:39
Byrne, when it was a proper broadcast entity,
50:41
you know what I mean. Yeah. Not
50:44
Late Late Light. And
50:47
a guy used to
50:49
come over, real leather patches,
50:51
you know, kind of
50:53
professorial type. His name
50:55
was Lyle Watson and Richie. The
50:57
guy was a polymath. I
51:00
mean, he was a biologist, zoologist,
51:02
a botanist, an explorer, and
51:04
also He was
51:06
the presenter on
51:08
Tomorrow's World. Which
51:11
you might recall. I do, Maggie
51:13
Philbin and company on the BBC,
51:15
yeah. Well, yeah, I
51:18
remember Maggie Philbin and the
51:20
lovely cheesecloth. But anyway, we
51:23
won't go there. So
51:26
yeah, he'd come over every so
51:28
often and... started to talk. You see,
51:30
people always think of Derrick Acora,
51:32
the paranormal. Where's me dad's outside playing
51:34
footy, but to John Booty, you know
51:36
this thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
51:38
And I love Derrick Acora. As a
51:40
matter of fact, I've been in touch
51:42
with his widow Gwen and she
51:44
might be coming on soon. We've exchanged
51:46
emails together, but anyway. So
51:49
this guy wrote a best
51:51
seller. This Lyle Watson. L
51:53
-Y -A -L -L. Lyle Watson. Check
51:55
him out sometime. Well,
51:57
he's passed away, but there's still a
51:59
lot of, you know, the body of work
52:01
is there. He wrote a book in
52:03
1974 called Supernature, Richie. And I don't believe
52:05
guy ever had to work again afterwards. Well,
52:11
I think we've lost Mark. Can
52:13
you hear me now? Yeah, you're just fading in
52:15
and out quite a bit there. Did you get any
52:17
of that at all? Yes. Oh, yeah, we got
52:19
the name of the book and you said he never
52:21
had to work ever again. That was
52:24
the last thing. And then you dipped out, yeah. And
52:26
then I dipped out. Well, I'll tell you what,
52:28
just for you and me, I'll see if I can
52:30
get this Skype up and running as well. So
52:32
look, he'd come over to
52:35
the late, late show and he'd regale me in
52:37
my little trivoring shorts at the time and
52:39
be black and white on the television screen. He
52:43
came, he said that paranormal
52:45
was, it's not just, as I
52:47
said, about ghosts and stuff. It's
52:50
about anything the forces
52:52
of nature or science can't
52:54
explain. So he would
52:56
intrigue me. He was
52:58
a kind of cunt. There you
53:00
go. Want to try Skype? Let's do
53:02
it. Yeah, because what's up is being
53:04
problematic. It's just according to me. If
53:06
somebody's listening to the Richie Alan show
53:08
for the first time ever, they might
53:10
think that I am a tad
53:12
unprofessional. That isn't the case.
53:15
let me assure you rest assured that's not
53:17
the case excuse me but I'm a
53:19
one -man band I'm here all by myself
53:21
and I don't have an editor I don't
53:23
have anybody in the gallery connecting all
53:25
of this stuff so let's see can we
53:27
get Mark on Skype where it should
53:29
be a lot easier to hear him because
53:31
this is going to be fascinating let's
53:33
get him on Let's get
53:35
him back on Skype. You
53:38
can reach out to me during the program by
53:40
sending a message to me directly. That's
53:42
at RichieAllen .co .uk. Use the contact
53:44
form there or just use the
53:46
app. Download the app and send
53:48
a message to me instantly. Hang
53:52
on a second now. Yeah. We're
53:54
struggling here a little bit. It's
53:56
almost as if the forces
53:58
of nature don't want us to
54:00
have this conversation. which is,
54:02
which will be a shame if we don't get
54:04
this sorted. But let me see,
54:06
just turn that off. So I'm waiting
54:09
for Mark to connect with me. Lots
54:11
of messages coming in already. Really appreciate
54:13
them. I'm sure, I'm
54:15
sure we have, we have,
54:17
we have, you're there. You
54:20
can hear me. I can hear you. I'm
54:22
getting a bit of echo, but that's no
54:24
problem. It's not going out on air. Thanks
54:26
be to Jesus. Do you know what we're
54:28
going to do? We're going to start again.
54:30
We are. We are. We're going to start
54:32
again. So I'm
54:34
all yours. So the
54:36
talk to us again
54:38
about loyal. Okay. And
54:40
the experiences of watching the
54:42
old late, late show talk
54:44
to us about that and
54:46
then just take over. I'm
54:48
gripped already. Okay, my
54:50
apologies again to your listeners. not your
54:52
fault. Not at all. It's my fault.
54:54
Please don't hold it against me listeners.
54:56
Okay, so this guy used to come
54:59
over in the 1970s. Lyle Watson was
55:01
his name. He was a polymath, as
55:03
I said. He could do everything. He
55:05
could do Sukahara backstands and he was
55:07
a biologist and a botanist and all
55:09
this stuff. And he was a
55:11
kind of contemporary of a guy I
55:13
think you knew, Yuri Geller. Yes. Well,
55:15
you know, it was kind of coming pop trendy
55:17
back then, the paranormal, you know. And
55:19
paranormal, as I said, isn't
55:21
just ghosties. It's anything that can't be explained
55:24
by science. So he would have, for
55:26
instance, he would relate stories. After
55:28
this amazing book he wrote called Supernature,
55:31
you know, instances where scientists had hooked
55:33
up little micro microphones, if you
55:35
like, to plants. And you'd
55:37
hear a plant screaming as you pulled it
55:39
from the soil. This was all,
55:41
you know, documented and kind of
55:43
recorded and enhanced and all this
55:45
kind of stuff. Also,
55:48
I think an old party trick of
55:50
his was he'd take a razor blade and
55:52
he'd make up a little pyramid, which
55:54
has been in the news recently, the pyramids,
55:56
but a pyramid shape and he'd place
55:58
a blunt razor blade under it and
56:00
hay pressed it within 24 hours or
56:03
so. That thing was was sharp, right? So
56:06
these were like amazing little
56:08
experiments and in the book,
56:10
Super Nature, like he really
56:12
relates things about insects, regenerating
56:14
limbs. And all
56:16
this, just totally amazing stuff. If
56:18
anyone wants to take it further,
56:20
I mean, one story I heard, I
56:23
mean, you can go in and get him, his Desert
56:25
Island discs is still there, right? And
56:28
also a documentary, a short one called
56:30
Five Narrow Windows, if you go Google.
56:33
And you'll hear a story, I'll just relate
56:35
it very quickly as follows, on the
56:37
foot of super nature being so amazing. He
56:39
got a call from an Italian
56:42
guy living with his family in Venice.
56:44
And he said, Mr. Watson,
56:46
why don't you come over here and I've got something
56:48
to show you. By the way, Venice, one of my
56:50
most favourite places in the world, right? Never been there.
56:52
Would love to visit. You've got to be. You've got
56:54
to be. I don't know if you can take the
56:56
poor old hounds. Probably not. The
56:59
retriever would love the swimming all
57:01
right, but not the other one, the
57:03
shemper. Anyway, I'm absolutely gripped by
57:06
this, so go on. He got a
57:08
call from the Italians. Yeah,
57:10
he got a call. So come up
57:12
and see me sometime in Vinici,
57:14
right, which he did. and
57:16
he was invited to this very kind
57:18
of normal but serene household and
57:20
the father was the guy that had
57:22
contacted Lyle Watson and he said
57:24
I want you to meet my little
57:27
six -year -old girl she's got a
57:29
little party trick for you okay so
57:31
um Lyle Watson sat down at
57:33
the dinner table it was all very
57:35
convivial and then the father gestures
57:37
to the daughter and he says will
57:39
you will you do your trick
57:42
for this nice gentleman so she took
57:44
A tennis ball, you
57:46
know, like the kind, the kind of hairy
57:49
yellow tennis balls. Yeah. And
57:51
she held it in her hand
57:53
and this almost explains as
57:55
like a dreamy look came over
57:57
as if she was talking
57:59
to a little furry animal. And
58:02
she gently would rub this
58:04
tennis ball. And
58:06
honest to God, Richie, the thing inverted, right?
58:10
So what happened was... flipped, so
58:12
the rubber innards, if you
58:14
like, were the outer part of
58:16
the sphere, of the ball, and
58:19
the fluffy stuff was, he cut
58:21
it in half, was inside. She
58:23
turned the ball inside
58:26
out. Out. And
58:28
was it a magic trick or
58:30
inexplicable, was it? Nobody could understand
58:32
how she did it. Put his
58:34
hands around the ball as she
58:36
was rubbing it so if there
58:38
was any kind of little trickery
58:41
going on with a string or
58:43
something like that. Not
58:45
at all another not only that that
58:47
she did it about three times for
58:49
him. How did she
58:51
come to understand that she could do
58:54
such a thing and what did what
58:56
did they think about it that they
58:58
think she was blessed somehow with some
59:00
sort of. skills, because I'd imagine, I
59:02
mean, the Italians and the Irish, we'd
59:04
be a superstitious group of people, like
59:06
you'd begin to think like, has she
59:08
been blessed by God or touched by
59:10
God? What do they think about it?
59:13
Mom, I'm here. I
59:16
wasn't there. No, no, no, but this
59:18
is fascinating to me. This is quite
59:20
amazing. Yeah. And I'm not
59:22
just for the crack, you know, no,
59:24
it was just something she did. And
59:27
he said, The sad
59:29
part about it was,
59:32
as she grew older, word had
59:34
gotten around the school, and
59:37
she considered herself, she
59:39
got very paranoid, god
59:42
-lover, and felt a bit
59:44
freakish. As you would,
59:46
oh god, do you remember that film years ago,
59:49
where your woman is in the disco
59:51
and all the paint gets, Carrie, do
59:53
you remember? Carrie, yes, this is basic,
59:55
yeah, of course. When the doors all
59:57
lock? Yeah, yeah, yeah. John Travolta, yeah. Anyway,
1:00:00
sorry, that was just a break for
1:00:02
ads. So no, she
1:00:05
got very paranoid about it and
1:00:07
she ceased to be able to
1:00:09
do it. Isn't
1:00:11
that interesting? That's all that happened.
1:00:14
That reminds me of a play
1:00:16
I went to see in the
1:00:18
Abbey years ago. And the
1:00:20
play was about a great,
1:00:22
great healer called Valentine Great Rakes.
1:00:25
You probably heard of this guy. I
1:00:27
think he was either 16th or
1:00:29
17th century. But he was
1:00:31
a bona fide, genuine energy
1:00:33
healer who operated in Ireland.
1:00:36
And then one day his powers of healing
1:00:38
completely deserted him. And that's what the
1:00:40
play is about. And this guy is a
1:00:42
real guy, a real character. But
1:00:44
again, he did these amazing things. And
1:00:46
of course, there was almost heresy back then
1:00:48
to be claiming to have any sort
1:00:50
of supernatural ability to heal people. And he
1:00:53
would have lived in kind of fear
1:00:55
of his life and stuff like that. But
1:00:57
yeah, again, skeptics
1:00:59
came from far and wide, but
1:01:01
couldn't disprove in any way
1:01:03
that this guy was the genuine
1:01:05
article. You're listening to Mark
1:01:07
Manning. We're talking about the paranormal.
1:01:09
Scary Era is in its
1:01:11
second season or series. It's
1:01:13
brilliant, Mark. I'm not just saying that. I've been listening to
1:01:16
what I've been watching it. And thinking
1:01:18
about these issues and
1:01:20
the stories I've heard growing
1:01:22
up about the paranormal,
1:01:24
particularly in Ireland. And
1:01:26
I know you've had an interest
1:01:28
in Loftus Hall in County
1:01:30
Wexford. Now, I visited Loftus Hall
1:01:33
in County Wexford. I don't know how
1:01:35
many times as a kid. And
1:01:37
for me, maybe I'm biased because... so
1:01:39
close to where I grew up, well,
1:01:41
close -ish to where I grew up. And
1:01:44
my radio station, WLRFM,
1:01:46
they did a wonderful
1:01:48
film documentary about Loftus
1:01:51
Hall. Do you want to
1:01:53
tell that story, Loftus Hall, or do you want me to tell it? Well,
1:01:55
WLR for a play, that's a
1:01:58
big station. Loftus
1:02:00
Hall, I'll be honest with you,
1:02:02
my only interaction with Loftus Hall is
1:02:04
I did the voiceover for a
1:02:06
recent movie called Loftus Hall. which went
1:02:09
out on television about six or
1:02:11
seven years ago. But yeah, go on,
1:02:13
you tell the story, Rich. Well,
1:02:15
the mansion itself in County Wexford is
1:02:17
a century mansion.
1:02:20
And it's an incredible story about
1:02:22
a, like a lot of
1:02:24
these stories, a dark and stormy
1:02:27
evening. The Tottenham
1:02:29
family were residents, they
1:02:31
were the owners, occupiers
1:02:33
of Loftus Hall at
1:02:35
the time. and late
1:02:37
one evening a stranger came to
1:02:39
the door in diabolical weather and the
1:02:41
stranger came in was invited in
1:02:43
and was invited to sit by the
1:02:46
fire and then to have something
1:02:48
to eat and then later on because
1:02:50
the storm or the weather hadn't
1:02:52
debated I believe to play cards I
1:02:54
should know this off by heart
1:02:56
you fill in any blanks here and
1:02:59
while they were playing cards the
1:03:01
young lady of the house Anne Tottenham
1:03:03
had called to look under the
1:03:05
table where they were playing cards, maybe
1:03:08
to check whether the stranger
1:03:10
was was sequestering cards under
1:03:12
the table or for whatever
1:03:14
reason and it turned out
1:03:16
the stranger had hooves and
1:03:18
when the stranger realized that
1:03:20
he'd been rumbled and he
1:03:22
transformed into what looked like
1:03:24
to be a demon of
1:03:26
some kind maybe the devil
1:03:28
and left the property through
1:03:31
the ceiling. isn't that
1:03:33
right like like like levitated in
1:03:35
the air in front of
1:03:37
these people burst through the roof
1:03:39
and for many many many
1:03:41
many years thereafter it was believed
1:03:44
that the hole in the
1:03:46
roof was irreparable that was a
1:03:48
local legend but that the
1:03:50
woman and Tottenham descended into total
1:03:52
madness and never recovered and
1:03:55
apparently horse spirit continues to haunt
1:03:57
Loftus Hall even today and
1:03:59
having worked for years on having
1:04:02
produced mid -morning talk radio, we
1:04:04
often heard from people who have
1:04:07
claimed to have seen this woman's apparition,
1:04:09
but it's a brilliant, brilliant story. I
1:04:11
mean, if it's true, it's sensational.
1:04:14
The problem with it, Richie, and by
1:04:16
the way, there's an amazing staircase
1:04:18
in that house. Unbelievable. Yeah.
1:04:21
I think there's only two. It's only two of
1:04:23
a kind or something. That
1:04:25
story is kind of replicated. You'll hear
1:04:27
it in a few instances. For instance,
1:04:29
the Hellfire Club. Oh, yes. Tell us
1:04:31
about the Hellfire Club. Well, I'll tell
1:04:34
you about the Hellfire Club in so
1:04:36
far as, as my late father, the
1:04:38
Colonel used to say, I saw nothing
1:04:40
worse than myself. By the way, I'm
1:04:42
a freaking Stone's throw. I was born
1:04:44
in Kilkenny. So
1:04:47
I consider myself a dub. I've been here
1:04:49
since 68, but sure, I wasn't born from
1:04:51
where you are, old son. No, you weren't.
1:04:53
No, you're a black in amber. Yeah. Yeah.
1:04:56
A cat. Indeed. Well, I was born
1:04:58
in a place called Kells. Now, everyone thinks
1:05:00
of the book of Kells, which is in Meath.
1:05:02
This is Kells. There's an abbey there. And
1:05:04
hold that thought as well, because it
1:05:06
is relevant to our conversation later on. But
1:05:09
the Hellfire Club, OK, was and there's
1:05:11
one in England as well, right? So
1:05:13
these were all back in the 16th
1:05:15
and 17th century. You know, the blokes
1:05:18
with the wigs and the little, little
1:05:20
pantaloon trousers. Yes, yes. Freaking money than
1:05:22
sense rich. They were the kind of.
1:05:25
the elon musks and whatever of
1:05:27
their day right bloody playboys right
1:05:29
and they basically used to play
1:05:31
cards up there now it's it's
1:05:33
located on a place called montpellier
1:05:36
hill not a mountain or anything
1:05:38
but if you're up there boy
1:05:40
you feel elevated and you get
1:05:42
a fantastic panoramic view of dublin
1:05:44
city ballia orclea all around you
1:05:46
in fluorescent light it is amazing
1:05:49
But these guys, there was, you
1:05:51
know, tales of, literally the tale
1:05:53
you told, that's happened. Also,
1:05:55
there was an instant of
1:05:57
a cat going and interrupting
1:05:59
one of their games, their
1:06:01
card games, and they threw
1:06:03
what was called Spalpeen, I
1:06:05
think, on top of the
1:06:07
cat. The cat went
1:06:10
down the hill like a... Like
1:06:12
a cat on fire, yeah.
1:06:14
Like a feline flambé. Yeah, yeah,
1:06:16
yeah. because this thing
1:06:18
went like literally flames went out
1:06:20
of it like Michael Jackson's
1:06:22
head and it took off down
1:06:24
the hill. So they were
1:06:26
ne 'er -do -wells and there were
1:06:28
all kinds of talk about debauchery
1:06:30
and black masses etc. Now
1:06:32
I was up there in 2021
1:06:34
with my good friend Stephen
1:06:36
who doesn't scare easy in the
1:06:38
least and all as I
1:06:40
was saying I mean this for
1:06:42
anybody that's listening you know
1:06:44
forget about the ghost hunt thing.
1:06:46
Stuff undoubtedly took place in
1:06:48
these in these locations. Right. Let
1:06:50
me jump in then. Let
1:06:52
me be so what what is
1:06:55
it then? Is it
1:06:57
that something is left behind some
1:06:59
sort of a trace of
1:07:01
something so. Like I genuinely believe
1:07:03
that some people are very sensitive to
1:07:05
this type of thing. I used to be
1:07:07
very skeptical. I used to think
1:07:09
people were frauds and I was very
1:07:11
dogmatic about it. I've learned a lot since
1:07:13
then. I've learned that I knew very
1:07:15
little. I know very little now, but I
1:07:17
knew even less back then. So is
1:07:20
it that there's a trace? There
1:07:22
is a residual energy in
1:07:24
these places that can be happened
1:07:26
upon or picked up on
1:07:28
by somebody who's able to who
1:07:31
is sensitive to it. Is that your
1:07:33
understanding of it? That
1:07:35
would be my preferred
1:07:37
understanding of it because
1:07:39
I can relate to
1:07:41
it. I don't necessarily
1:07:43
believe in the woo -woo haunting
1:07:45
stuff at all. Now,
1:07:47
that's just because I haven't
1:07:50
experienced it. By the way, I
1:07:52
would be top of the pops in terms
1:07:54
of being a skeptic. Had I not come
1:07:56
face to face with something in my in
1:07:58
my formative years? Yeah, was going to come
1:08:00
back to that, of course, I was going
1:08:02
to work my way around sure that I'm
1:08:04
not forgetting that's very important. But stick with
1:08:06
the health club then and the surrounds. Okay.
1:08:09
So yeah, to answer your question,
1:08:11
I am a subscriber to what's
1:08:13
known as stone tape theory. And
1:08:16
the you know, it originates
1:08:18
in a kind of Christmas
1:08:21
time film, the BBC put
1:08:23
out, or a little drama
1:08:25
series, whereby it was
1:08:27
felt, you know, the scientists were
1:08:29
investigating a castle, and it was
1:08:31
felt the noise as the audio,
1:08:33
et cetera, even the vision had
1:08:35
been imbued somehow within the stonework
1:08:38
of the castle that they were
1:08:40
investigating. So every so often
1:08:42
under certain, and this is what
1:08:44
I believe I saw, under certain
1:08:46
conditions, atmospheric conditions, whether
1:08:48
it's the you know like remember the
1:08:50
magnetic tape so it's like stone
1:08:52
tape theory so you know that that
1:08:54
tape could absorb uh I can't
1:08:56
remember exactly what god I used to
1:08:58
play with those BASF tapes and
1:09:00
stuff when I was a kid this
1:09:02
got got me into the whole
1:09:04
radio lark But I digress to answer
1:09:06
your question. I think it is
1:09:09
a replaying of usually maybe some kind
1:09:11
of a traumatic event Somewhere where
1:09:13
large burst of emotion has been involved
1:09:15
similar to I suppose in some
1:09:17
respects what you'd see in the Shroud
1:09:19
of Turin that kind of you
1:09:21
know where there's an expellation Of something
1:09:23
be it be it grief or
1:09:25
a violent event and then it just
1:09:27
gets replayed under certain conditions That's
1:09:29
just me. Yeah, I like that. I
1:09:31
like that as a possible explanation. I
1:09:34
know it's not what you've described
1:09:36
now, but for me, the word that
1:09:38
keeps coming into my mind is
1:09:40
echo, that certain things
1:09:42
can be so awful, so
1:09:45
traumatic, so explosive, that
1:09:47
they might leave echoes of
1:09:49
themselves around. Because I
1:09:51
like to think that when
1:09:53
people die, their spirit,
1:09:56
their energy, some people call
1:09:58
it a soul, moves on to
1:10:00
whatever's next. Now, there
1:10:02
are people listening to this who
1:10:04
and they've very much we
1:10:06
have listeners who are very much
1:10:08
into it. And they reckon
1:10:10
that they're convinced that there is
1:10:12
a phenomenon whereby the soul
1:10:15
isn't ready to leave. And
1:10:17
this might explain hauntings, right?
1:10:19
This might explain some of the
1:10:21
some of the experiences people
1:10:23
like Derek Acor acclaimed to have
1:10:25
had. and Yvette Fielding and
1:10:28
other people like that, that there
1:10:30
are people who were wrenched
1:10:32
from this physical world, whatever it
1:10:34
is, so quickly, so violently,
1:10:36
so horribly, that they're not
1:10:38
really aware of the fact that they're
1:10:41
gone, and they're hanging around.
1:10:43
We're thinking the Nicole Kidman movie
1:10:45
now, The Others, right? Well,
1:10:47
what a twist that was, by the way. I
1:10:49
must be the only agent in the world
1:10:51
who didn't get that twist. I didn't get that
1:10:53
twist at all. But you don't buy that,
1:10:55
do you? That it's somebody who's left around who
1:10:57
is just not aware that they need to
1:10:59
move on. Oh, I keep
1:11:01
an open mind because I
1:11:03
wouldn't have believed or be
1:11:05
creating a paranormal podcast in
1:11:07
the first place as I
1:11:10
had experienced something that was
1:11:12
just on toward to me.
1:11:14
And many of the time, you know, as the
1:11:16
years have gone by, and
1:11:18
you know i've tried to reconcile what what
1:11:20
happened to me and say oh it
1:11:23
was just a trick of the light no
1:11:25
it wasn't i wouldn't be doing justice
1:11:27
to that seven or eight year old kid
1:11:29
who not in your case but the
1:11:31
hair stood up in my head right but
1:11:33
i saw right but in answer again
1:11:35
to your question oh i'd keep in mind
1:11:37
anything you know perhaps it was you
1:11:39
know it's a trapped energy or or whatever
1:11:41
it is um Lots of things
1:11:43
happen, Richie, you know, you
1:11:46
know, in traumatic moments. If anybody's ever
1:11:48
been in a or close to a car
1:11:50
crash like I was, I was in
1:11:52
one and we were doing about 100 miles
1:11:54
an hour at the time. Everything slows
1:11:56
down. That's why people say I
1:11:58
recall it in slow motion. You
1:12:01
know, every condensing, it's like.
1:12:03
I'd say, I don't know whether it's frequency
1:12:05
or whatever it is that we're all
1:12:08
on certain wavelengths and all, but I don't
1:12:10
want to go off down a dark
1:12:12
corner because people just going to lose interest
1:12:14
in me. But no, I'm not sure
1:12:16
what it is, Richie, but I keep an
1:12:18
open mind. Here's some interesting messages from
1:12:20
our listeners. Patricia, Richie,
1:12:23
one that shocked my parents was when I
1:12:25
was about five. I was in
1:12:27
my bed going to sleep when an older
1:12:29
man walked into my room, walked around my
1:12:31
bed and came over. wasn't afraid at
1:12:33
all until he looked at me and said hi
1:12:35
Patricia. I ran out and turned
1:12:37
all the lights on. I told my parents how
1:12:39
he looked. Anyway, they
1:12:42
told me later on some years
1:12:44
later it was exactly the description
1:12:46
of my dad's father who passed
1:12:48
away before I was born. Now
1:12:51
I've no doubt that's a genuine and I've
1:12:53
got another one very similar to it here
1:12:55
if I can bring it up. This
1:12:58
is from Kev, Richie, I went on
1:13:00
a Sunday drive around Asperin's with my
1:13:03
wife some years ago. We met a
1:13:05
man walking on his own, who looked
1:13:07
really familiar, but I couldn't place him.
1:13:09
Walking along the side of the road,
1:13:11
as Irish people do, I put the
1:13:13
hand up, he didn't react. My wife
1:13:15
said, that's your father. She
1:13:18
never met him, had only seen
1:13:20
photos of him, he died in 1990.
1:13:22
Was I receiving some sort of
1:13:24
message? Again, there's no way that Kev
1:13:26
is not being genuine there. This
1:13:28
guy's familiar to me. I can't
1:13:30
place them. The wife says, I think that
1:13:32
was your father. What's going on? I'd love
1:13:34
to know what's going on there. What's happening
1:13:36
there? But that's the $64 million
1:13:38
question. It's why you're doing the podcast,
1:13:41
I suppose. Well, your guess is as good
1:13:43
as mine. But I mean, I know
1:13:45
he was off the maligned, but I just
1:13:47
go back to Derek Acora. If you've
1:13:49
ever heard any interviews with him, I mean,
1:13:51
his initial experience was very much like
1:13:53
your first listener there. the exact same thing.
1:13:55
He was running down the stairs in
1:13:57
some old house that his Nana think he
1:14:00
used to own. And he came across
1:14:02
this guy who said hello to him, I
1:14:04
think patted him on the head. And
1:14:06
he came downstairs, reported it.
1:14:09
And, you know, they said they weren't
1:14:12
they apparently they had the gift
1:14:14
in the family. So they said, you
1:14:16
know, open up the old
1:14:18
photograph album, and sure enough, it was his
1:14:20
grandfather who had been some kind of naval
1:14:22
man or something like that. But no, I
1:14:24
keep my mind open. Can I just share
1:14:26
two things with you, apart from, say, like
1:14:28
the big incident that happened in the 70s,
1:14:30
right? Yeah, we do. I want to hear
1:14:32
that as well. Is that okay, right? Because
1:14:34
one of them is very recent. And
1:14:37
as God is my witness, right,
1:14:39
here's what happened. So I'm doing the
1:14:41
podcast. I'm trying to sound like
1:14:43
you and being all the prick and I'm trying to
1:14:45
be Terry Wogan, whoever I am, right? You
1:14:48
know, when you get carried away with yourself... You're
1:14:50
the man with the golden voice, will you fake
1:14:52
off? Go ahead. No, but you know when you
1:14:54
get carried away with your own kind of little
1:14:56
importance, and it's not that. It's just that you
1:14:58
love doom. God, you do this for nothing, right?
1:15:00
Yeah, yeah. So
1:15:02
there I was, and I had this. She's
1:15:04
a psychic medium. Her name is, and I
1:15:06
of course, making a big play out of
1:15:08
it, Rhonda. She's an American. Help me, Rhonda.
1:15:11
And she's beautiful and very
1:15:13
kind of, how do I
1:15:15
put it? You know, oh, she's just
1:15:17
a big kind of blonde bombshell, and
1:15:19
she's spaced now in Ireland. I think she
1:15:21
lives in Sligo. Check
1:15:24
her out, by the way. What's your name?
1:15:26
RhondaHale .com, because she does all kinds of stuff. So
1:15:29
I had her on the show because I
1:15:31
thought, well, here's the yangle in American psychic
1:15:33
in Ireland, and she'd gone around all these
1:15:35
sites, including, as I said to you, Kells,
1:15:37
does an Abbey in Kells in Kilkenny, and
1:15:39
I'd come up with some stuff. So
1:15:41
she's been very volatious and American and
1:15:43
all the rest of it, and I'm chatting
1:15:45
away, and I can't remember how
1:15:47
it came up, but I was explaining how
1:15:49
I'd lost my parents and stuff. and
1:15:52
i'm going bloody blah blah blah
1:15:54
blah not listening not bloody listening and
1:15:56
she you know at at least
1:15:58
three times you can listen back she
1:16:00
goes you know mark she's here
1:16:03
you know mark she's here but mark
1:16:05
was too busy but you're not
1:16:07
picking up on it right yeah but
1:16:09
about third time looking i said
1:16:11
sorry she said i didn't mean to
1:16:13
give you a reading but your
1:16:15
mother is here all right so i'm
1:16:17
i i kind of gone here
1:16:20
we go um but She
1:16:22
went, she said, your mother
1:16:24
is here. And
1:16:27
she said, this is what got
1:16:29
me, first of all, she said, she's got a
1:16:31
little boy with her. And
1:16:33
I went, see, you jumped
1:16:35
to conclusions, Richie. I lost
1:16:37
my brother, who was nine
1:16:39
years older than me to
1:16:41
cancer, way back in 2009.
1:16:44
So I, you know, you want to believe kind
1:16:46
of, and I went, hold on, you're onto something
1:16:48
there, Rhonda. to
1:16:51
my mother, that would be her little boy,
1:16:53
even though he was like 53 when he passed.
1:16:56
That would be. So she said, it's
1:16:59
a boy, but anyway. And
1:17:01
I said, OK, she
1:17:03
said, your dad is here as well. And
1:17:07
she said, boy, he's, as
1:17:09
she described him, a kick in the pants. And
1:17:12
she said to
1:17:15
me, he's stubborn,
1:17:18
isn't he? He's a real stubborn.
1:17:20
He's got his little grin on his face
1:17:22
and his arms are folded. Now
1:17:24
the Mannings, Richie, are stubborn,
1:17:27
right? It's not the kind of
1:17:29
word that I think psychics just
1:17:31
conjure up. And if it was,
1:17:33
one hell of a coincidence. What
1:17:36
about the image of him standing there, arms
1:17:38
folded with a kind of a smirk on his
1:17:40
face? Did that ring a bell? He had
1:17:42
this rye kind of smile. As I said, he
1:17:44
was a military guy. You know, if you
1:17:46
hear 11 on recently, dad was in charge of
1:17:48
camp. Shamrock out in Lebanon. It's in the
1:17:50
news recently. He was a camp commander out there.
1:17:54
And he was 40 years an officer, you know. And
1:17:57
dad, she
1:17:59
said, he wants to say something to you.
1:18:02
And this isn't where I do the emotional thing. But
1:18:04
she said, he
1:18:06
says, you know, sorry, son,
1:18:09
I wasn't too approachable when
1:18:11
you were younger, but it's
1:18:13
just the way I was
1:18:15
brought up. It was different
1:18:17
times. And he
1:18:20
lost his father. You
1:18:22
know, I think by the time my dad
1:18:24
was born, his father had died. His father, by
1:18:26
the way, had got through the trenches of
1:18:28
the First World War. Founders wasn't such a short
1:18:30
way to Tipperary, married a local postmistress there, and
1:18:33
died of Blumen, what's
1:18:35
it called, appendicitis, right? So
1:18:37
this was very too
1:18:39
much of a coincidence, okay?
1:18:41
Now it gets... I mean, first of all,
1:18:43
she kind of got my father to a
1:18:46
T with the stubborn bit, you know, and
1:18:48
also the kind of engaging but not engaging,
1:18:50
you know, kind of the macho thing that
1:18:52
used to go on. And she couldn't have
1:18:54
listened to anything about you or read anything
1:18:56
on Facebook or anything. You're pretty sure. No,
1:18:58
okay. I know that I know that I
1:19:01
think back in the day you did a
1:19:03
roost on some one of these guys or
1:19:05
something. I did years ago in Spain. Yeah,
1:19:07
I did. Yeah, but should
1:19:09
we get older and wiser and so
1:19:11
look so she had that right
1:19:13
she had my dad right we
1:19:15
came off the call and as
1:19:17
you know you do you have
1:19:20
a little chat with them before
1:19:22
and afterwards and i said god
1:19:24
you got my brother and she
1:19:26
said your brother was 50 something
1:19:28
when he passed i'm telling you
1:19:30
it was a little boy it
1:19:32
was a little boy she was
1:19:34
insistent right richie i thought about
1:19:36
it in the days coming afterwards
1:19:38
and i realized my mother told
1:19:41
me when i was about seven
1:19:43
that she had a miss right
1:19:45
she didn't even get into much
1:19:47
detail she said you had a
1:19:49
brother and he died and we
1:19:51
baptized we had him baptized and
1:19:53
i remember thinking what a weird
1:19:55
thing to say because i was
1:19:57
only a kid but in reality
1:19:59
you know in sympathy you know
1:20:01
i think she was still affected
1:20:04
it was probably relatively recent and
1:20:06
she was still traumatized so that
1:20:08
was a hell of a coincidence
1:20:10
she got my she got my
1:20:12
dad she got my mom and
1:20:14
then i realized that my mother
1:20:16
had told me you know that
1:20:18
she'd lost a little boy years
1:20:20
ago so in this instance then
1:20:22
as far as you're concerned there's
1:20:24
a strong possibility that ronda was
1:20:27
able to receive messages emotionally
1:20:29
or energetically from your mom
1:20:31
and dad. You've got to consider
1:20:33
that to be a possibility. Again,
1:20:36
I'm not saying that's exactly what happened because
1:20:38
I don't know. Years ago I would have laughed
1:20:40
at it. Now I don't
1:20:42
laugh at it because I've
1:20:44
had too many experiences, met
1:20:46
too many people who've had
1:20:48
something similar happen to them
1:20:50
as happened to you. You're
1:20:53
open to the possibility that
1:20:55
mom and dad are somehow
1:20:57
still around. I'm open to
1:20:59
the possibility, Richie,
1:21:02
that, you know, stuff exists that we
1:21:04
don't understand. Other dimensions and stuff, yeah.
1:21:06
Yeah. And before, I mean, I'll just
1:21:08
move on to the second story that
1:21:10
I found on Canny, which by the
1:21:12
way is a TV series. I don't
1:21:14
know if you've seen it. It's fantastic.
1:21:17
Yeah, it's good. Yeah. Oh, it's good.
1:21:19
The beautiful color grading and the production. Oh,
1:21:22
it's fantastic. There was another one about
1:21:24
witches, something recently as well, beautifully filmed,
1:21:26
all drone footage and all that just
1:21:28
to drool for. But
1:21:30
it's not like I go around
1:21:32
chasing, you know, California hippie dream
1:21:34
girls. But years before that, I
1:21:36
was part of some kind of
1:21:38
an online group. And anyway, I
1:21:40
got talking to this very nice
1:21:42
lady. And indeed, if I remember
1:21:44
rightly, one of her talents was
1:21:46
she would paint the Oscar statues.
1:21:49
for the Oscars every year. You know, the gold
1:21:51
statues. That's not right. Wow. But
1:21:53
they're painted gold and that was one of the
1:21:55
things she used to do. But she sent me this
1:21:57
amazing birth chart one time if you want to
1:22:00
get into the whole astrology thing, right? And
1:22:02
it was very, you know, it was
1:22:04
remarkable kind of things like the day
1:22:06
I was born, by the way, President
1:22:08
Kennedy flew over to house. His
1:22:11
arms must have been sore, but it was
1:22:13
like Marine one or something. The helicopter went
1:22:15
on his visit in 1963 to Ireland. And
1:22:17
so she wanted a time, you know, the
1:22:19
time I was born. Anyway, this thing kind of
1:22:21
blew my mind. It was very, very, when
1:22:24
she presented it to me, it
1:22:26
was full of detail. And then
1:22:28
about a year or two later, I thought I could,
1:22:30
you know, amble another reading out for for the
1:22:32
crack. You know, now she used to charge for these,
1:22:34
but she didn't the first time around. But she
1:22:36
probably got a bit wise to me being tight. You
1:22:40
know what, Richie, she said to me,
1:22:42
look, OK, Mark, I tell you what. I'm
1:22:45
not going to do a whole reading
1:22:47
now, but I have tapped, wait till
1:22:49
you hear this, I've tapped into your
1:22:51
energy. This is not Rhonda
1:22:54
now, there's a totally different lady years before.
1:22:57
And she said, here's
1:22:59
what I found. I
1:23:02
can't make sense of it. And she
1:23:04
said to me, I don't
1:23:06
want to be a cycle of recycled
1:23:08
revenge. I don't want to follow
1:23:10
death and all of his friends now.
1:23:12
That is a line from a
1:23:14
Coldplay song called Death and All of
1:23:16
His Friends. Yes, it is, yeah. You
1:23:19
know, now, here's the thing about,
1:23:21
I don't know, a week or
1:23:23
two beforehand, when I used to
1:23:25
do such a thing as Arning, I was
1:23:27
doing it out in the conservatory by myself, Arning
1:23:29
me business shirt or whatever, when I used
1:23:31
to be suited and booted back then. And
1:23:34
I was listening to that Viva
1:23:36
de Loca, whatever it's called, album.
1:23:39
Which I detest now, because it reminds me
1:23:41
of a particular time in television. I
1:23:44
did some more, I loved the TV work, but
1:23:46
there was a gimp there that used to play that
1:23:48
album all the time. But
1:23:50
yeah, you know the way you got
1:23:52
a pig vomit. Remember that Howard
1:23:54
Stern movie, Pig Vomit? Paul Giamatti, yeah.
1:23:57
So I just keep thinking of him. But anyway,
1:23:59
I was due to the ironing, right? And I'm
1:24:01
listening to this song. And I used to fancy
1:24:03
myself as a kind of poet. You
1:24:05
know, I still do. I used to write and
1:24:07
I used to dabble, especially in my 40s.
1:24:09
You know, I just got into this thing where
1:24:11
I just started to write and write and
1:24:14
write. Now, I heard that line. It
1:24:16
resonated with me. I didn't
1:24:18
share it with anybody else. I
1:24:21
just remember thinking, God, I wish
1:24:23
I'd written that. She
1:24:26
comes out of the ether with
1:24:28
it. So as I said, it's
1:24:30
it's about keeping an open mind.
1:24:32
Yeah, there's no explaining that away.
1:24:34
No, I didn't even tell me
1:24:36
why she wouldn't be interested. You
1:24:39
know, you can't dismiss that as
1:24:41
some sort of coincidence or no,
1:24:43
you can't. I mean, that's that's
1:24:45
really, really strange and beyond fascinating
1:24:47
really. You'd love to get a
1:24:50
chance to sit down with the
1:24:52
lady in question. to ask
1:24:54
her what were you what were you
1:24:56
feeling when you blurted out those two
1:24:58
lines what was going through your mind
1:25:00
you know she was just amazing but
1:25:02
listen i've got one for you that
1:25:04
you might like because just before you
1:25:06
do though it's exactly half six you're
1:25:09
listening to the Richie Allen show out
1:25:11
of solford it's um wonderful to have
1:25:13
mark manning back on the program it
1:25:15
really is lovely to be speaking to
1:25:17
some one from the old country mark
1:25:19
is a he's done it all in
1:25:21
tv and radio he's a presenter he's
1:25:23
a teacher voiceover artist and he is
1:25:25
responsible for. He's the man behind Scary
1:25:27
Era, which is in season two. It's
1:25:30
a series of podcasts about the paranormal
1:25:32
and Ireland. And I really recommend you
1:25:34
check it out. You'll find Mark on
1:25:36
X. It's at Mark Manning. Couldn't
1:25:38
be simpler. YouTube channel, if you look for
1:25:40
Mark Manning, you'll find him there. And of
1:25:42
course, the links will be on the podcast
1:25:44
notes a little bit later on. And thanks
1:25:46
for all your messages. I will get to
1:25:48
them. I promise him Michael has been in
1:25:50
touch. Great mother's son Michael
1:25:53
I'm trying to think what would your
1:25:55
great -grandmother son be to you I
1:25:57
suppose your grandfather I suppose and
1:25:59
was killed in the war but after
1:26:01
he'd been killed unbeknownst anybody else
1:26:03
nobody knew he was dead and she'd
1:26:05
seen him come in hang his
1:26:08
hat and went upstairs again you see
1:26:10
people don't make this stuff up
1:26:12
you know don't later on they learned
1:26:14
that the chap has been killed
1:26:16
God love him in action But
1:26:18
after he'd been killed, he just wandered up the
1:26:20
stairs. Hang on a second. Are
1:26:22
you supposed to be overseas? And he's
1:26:24
not there at all. He's dead. Thank you, Michael.
1:26:27
There's a few more like that, by the way. Mysterious
1:26:29
appearances of somebody who had
1:26:31
recently died. Yes, and that's
1:26:33
kind of unusual, I believe. I can't
1:26:35
remember the name of it. There's one
1:26:37
of these old houses. Oh,
1:26:41
God, is it county me? There's something like
1:26:43
that. But the same thing happened. And now it
1:26:45
was an old English family. and the
1:26:47
chap had went off to war. He
1:26:50
was killed in the First World War, but
1:26:52
he appeared at the lakeside in Ireland,
1:26:54
and a groundsman saw him. Somebody will remember
1:26:56
what that is. But here's one for
1:26:58
you, and that's not dismissing for a minute
1:27:00
all these great listeners that are sharing
1:27:02
stuff with us. I just thought you and
1:27:04
I could relate to this, okay? Here
1:27:06
we go. You make me up, Richie, but
1:27:08
to be honest, I'm a kind of
1:27:10
jack -of -all, master of none. The voiceover has
1:27:12
been good to me. So
1:27:14
I go all the way back to
1:27:16
the Pirates in Ireland. And don't worry,
1:27:19
I'm not going off in a radio
1:27:21
one. But I go back
1:27:23
to the Radio Dublin, which by the
1:27:25
way supposedly had a ghost called Irma
1:27:27
Trude, if I remember rightly. But what
1:27:29
I want to encapsulate with yourself is
1:27:31
that whole thing of being the late
1:27:33
night DJ. which
1:27:35
was, you know, a lot
1:27:37
of the management would go, you know, put
1:27:39
them on the graveyard, shift kind of stuff,
1:27:41
you know. And we all knew they were saving
1:27:44
money on security by having us in there.
1:27:46
Of course. But however, you
1:27:48
can't buy that kind of time and
1:27:50
that kind of sharing of humanity
1:27:52
in the wee small hours. I remember
1:27:54
one night getting an amazing call,
1:27:56
but it would only be gone off
1:27:58
on a tangent now to talk
1:28:01
about it. So I think it was
1:28:03
episode two. We had, you might
1:28:05
remember this name, Bernie Jemisin came on.
1:28:07
Bernie Jemisin, Jesus, Mary and Joseph,
1:28:09
yeah. Bernie Jemisin started
1:28:11
out on Radio Dublin way back with
1:28:13
myself. So, you know, that would
1:28:15
place her late 70s, very early 80s.
1:28:18
And she is a beauty. She's
1:28:20
the absolute lady. And you
1:28:22
name the station, she's been on it.
1:28:24
She is a professional to her fingertips,
1:28:26
okay? And she was on
1:28:28
what was at the time, and it
1:28:30
was a failed entity called, you might
1:28:32
recall, Radio Ireland. Yeah, I remember, yeah.
1:28:34
Radio Ireland. And you know, you try
1:28:36
and get into the place, you keep
1:28:38
on knocking, but like, you know, keep,
1:28:40
keep me knocking, but you can't get
1:28:42
into it. It's an Irish joke. So,
1:28:46
you know, you'd be sending in your, I
1:28:48
remember sending in a cassette tape and the
1:28:50
PD, the program director is saying to me,
1:28:52
thanks for that. I didn't notice, still did
1:28:54
those, you know, such a snotty yolk. So
1:28:56
I'd be trying to get into Radio Ireland,
1:28:58
but she was in there. Okay. And
1:29:01
this was in Jarvis Street, which was
1:29:03
in the environs, it's just off O
1:29:05
'Connell Street, the environs
1:29:07
of what was, for many
1:29:09
years, Jarvis Street Hospital. So.
1:29:13
you probably know this kind of
1:29:15
coming up to graveyards you know everything
1:29:17
goes pretty much on auto right
1:29:19
so they can auto fade this the
1:29:21
play out software so essentially you
1:29:23
think someone's on air but nobody's there
1:29:25
right. But
1:29:27
she would because she had
1:29:29
to do the live broadcast and
1:29:31
news time i keep an
1:29:33
eye on the clock as well
1:29:36
rich so she would hear
1:29:38
this kind of like a lullaby
1:29:40
lullaby thing and it would
1:29:42
ebb. and flow and she kept
1:29:44
it to herself for a
1:29:46
while and it was always kind
1:29:48
of late night this thing
1:29:50
it seemed to come through the
1:29:52
wall you know kind of
1:29:55
I don't know ethereal or whatever
1:29:57
very light and and ephemeral
1:29:59
there's two big words for you
1:30:01
yes a quick in out
1:30:03
thin veiled all that stuff but
1:30:05
eerie And sometimes
1:30:07
maybe perhaps I might be egging it
1:30:09
a bit here, but I think a
1:30:11
baby crying or someone singing to a
1:30:13
baby She kept it to herself and
1:30:15
then she spilled the beans one time
1:30:17
and someone else went you're not the
1:30:19
only one Bernie. I've heard that as
1:30:21
well So she's beautiful.
1:30:23
The whole story, by the way, is on,
1:30:26
I think, episode two, a scary era.
1:30:28
By the way, if you go Mark Manning
1:30:30
Media, that's a catch -all for all the
1:30:32
platforms you just mentioned. Mark Manning Media,
1:30:34
put that word media in. And
1:30:36
by the way, Jarvis Street again, very quickly, there used to
1:30:38
be a hospital there. And I heard
1:30:40
a story where I was probably chatting her
1:30:42
up at the time, a nurse way back
1:30:44
in the 80s. And she said,
1:30:46
oh yeah, Jarvis Street. She said, you
1:30:48
know, she said, I was in there
1:30:50
one night, it was a guy dying. And the
1:30:52
priest was around him, given the
1:30:54
last rites. And she said, he rose
1:30:56
up, he levitated, you
1:30:59
know, a few feet above the bed as
1:31:01
the rites were being given. And
1:31:03
then it's almost like somebody just put him
1:31:05
back down again. And the priest reacted. You
1:31:08
know, Richie hit the bullseye there. I've
1:31:10
had a priest on and his name is
1:31:12
Michael Collins of all names, right? Only
1:31:14
recently and he's claimed even though he's been
1:31:16
present when people have been ill mentally
1:31:18
and all kinds of stuff. Never. They answer
1:31:20
your question. I don't know. I didn't
1:31:22
ask. I just kind of got the creeps
1:31:24
when she said that to me. But
1:31:26
on the flip side of that one funny
1:31:28
Michael talked to you about exorcisms, didn't
1:31:31
he? He did. But you know,
1:31:33
we all want the juicy stuff with the head
1:31:35
spinning around and all that. But no. He
1:31:37
wasn't playing ball. It's
1:31:39
kind of, you might remember a book
1:31:41
called The Divide itself. And
1:31:44
it's almost, he reckons it's
1:31:46
the mind as the good and
1:31:48
the evil are probably at
1:31:50
battle with each other. And
1:31:53
it's a matter of making the
1:31:55
layman's terms, but the good to
1:31:57
overcome the evil aspect of you.
1:32:00
He said, yeah, he was
1:32:03
at places where people were
1:32:05
obviously very disturbed. But
1:32:07
he couldn't, you know, he couldn't
1:32:09
give me the whole... Well, can
1:32:11
I jump in there because that's
1:32:13
fascinating. I interviewed a
1:32:15
guy called Father Vince Lampert
1:32:17
about three times over the
1:32:19
years. And you'll probably know
1:32:21
Vince is, he's the Vatican's
1:32:24
exorcist in America, at least
1:32:26
in, at least on
1:32:28
the Eastern seaboard of America.
1:32:30
And interviewed Vince, lovely, lovely
1:32:32
gentlemen. Of
1:32:34
course I challenged him, you know, pretty
1:32:36
hard. I said, come
1:32:38
on, we're talking about mental
1:32:41
disturbances and serious psychological illnesses. And
1:32:43
he said, of course, he said, you know, many
1:32:46
times you'll be taken to a place
1:32:48
because the family is religious and you realize
1:32:50
that you don't really have any business
1:32:52
being there because the person is suffering from
1:32:54
psychological illness of one kind or another.
1:32:56
But then he said, there are the other
1:32:58
times. when you're confronting
1:33:01
demons. And there was nothing about
1:33:03
the guy's conversation with me that I found
1:33:05
to be insincere or false. There was nothing
1:33:07
in it for him. And he recounted a
1:33:09
couple of stories that were fairly, you
1:33:11
can make, we'll joke again
1:33:13
about my follically challenged
1:33:15
dome. But you know,
1:33:18
stories that would rise the hairs
1:33:20
on the back of your neck, where
1:33:22
he said he was convinced he
1:33:24
was, we're talking about a face changing
1:33:26
shape and got guttural language and
1:33:28
even foreign tongues and not just gobbledygook
1:33:30
now but actual languages coming out
1:33:32
of a person and he had to
1:33:34
deal with that and he explained
1:33:36
to me that you draw the demon
1:33:38
out through the top of the
1:33:40
head or not the demon the attachment
1:33:42
whatever it is and I believed
1:33:44
him not because I wanted to believe
1:33:46
him I'm a skeptic at least
1:33:48
he I felt that he had at
1:33:50
least he believed what he was
1:33:53
telling me and the man accomplished you
1:33:55
know totally in his craft. No,
1:33:57
it doesn't mean that what he felt
1:33:59
he experienced actually happened. That's another
1:34:01
thing entirely. But at least that was
1:34:03
his understanding of it. And I
1:34:05
found that to be... I've got to
1:34:07
read some more messages made because
1:34:09
our listeners are loving this. So
1:34:11
thank you for them. A
1:34:13
listener has been in touch to say, it's
1:34:15
Wayne, saw an apparition as a child
1:34:17
woken late at night to the sound
1:34:20
of church bells. But the
1:34:22
bells weren't actually ringing. A little
1:34:24
girl in white and bathed in
1:34:26
a white glow was on the grass
1:34:28
outside my bedroom window. Upon
1:34:30
opening the court in the second time,
1:34:32
she was now suspended outside my window
1:34:34
looking in. and then he had
1:34:36
another experience at a holistic centre above
1:34:38
a market when something else very strange
1:34:40
happened and he would sit in the
1:34:42
main room facing a small hallway a
1:34:44
therapy room was to the right people
1:34:47
who looked as though they were looking
1:34:49
around would cross the doorway as if
1:34:51
they were going into therapy when I
1:34:53
got up to look there wouldn't be
1:34:55
anybody there there was only one ex
1:34:57
that says Wayne there's so many of
1:34:59
these I wish I'd experienced something myself
1:35:01
I have never experienced anything at all
1:35:04
Sandra was on, was in London, 20
1:35:06
years ago partner worked and lived on
1:35:08
a construction site near central London. The
1:35:10
building used to be a vicarage where
1:35:12
a priest used to live. Unbeknownst
1:35:14
to my partner, he invited his
1:35:16
best friend and a relative from Poland
1:35:18
to join him at the construction
1:35:20
place. All three of them
1:35:22
started experiencing strange things in the house
1:35:24
like weird. cold feelings
1:35:27
at a specific point near the
1:35:29
staircase metal parts of the
1:35:31
library shelves began moving at night
1:35:33
making a horrible noise and
1:35:35
then my partner lost consciousness while
1:35:37
in the bathroom and later
1:35:39
woke up to find scratches on
1:35:41
his body oh wow poltergeist
1:35:43
um oh poltergeist yeah we had
1:35:45
the story of the koonine Poltergeist
1:35:48
there recently as well. It happened in 1913,
1:35:50
I think. Sorry, Rich. No, no, this is
1:35:52
brilliant because it leads in perfectly to that
1:35:54
episode, which I try something here. Just just
1:35:56
I'm going to ask if you hear this
1:35:58
now because if you do, we're we're on
1:36:01
a winner. Right. Just don't
1:36:03
worry. I'm not pulling the trick. No, no, I'll
1:36:05
say nothing. I'm silent. I'm sealed. I'm going to
1:36:07
put a monitor on here. No.
1:36:11
OK. All right. What I
1:36:14
had lined up for you but because
1:36:16
of this freaking Skype thing is but
1:36:18
your listeners can go on if they
1:36:20
want anyway if they go scary era
1:36:22
EVP right so these are electronic voice
1:36:24
phenomena i had a few of them
1:36:26
that were given to me by investigators
1:36:28
and they're pretty amazing one or two
1:36:30
you'd say that's scooby -doo contrived all
1:36:32
right but when you know the person
1:36:34
you're dealing with and you trust them
1:36:36
implicitly and you know they verify themselves
1:36:38
over not only that you insult them
1:36:40
if you keep slagging them off because
1:36:42
you know they take their their work
1:36:44
very very seriously if I can just
1:36:46
name a couple of these right very
1:36:48
quickly so you've got down in cork
1:36:50
you've got cork a supernatural society with
1:36:52
Matthew Clark he's giving me some great
1:36:54
EVPs so this is when you hear
1:36:56
the voices you know and usually they
1:36:58
hear them when they come back after
1:37:00
the investigation they don't hear them at
1:37:02
the time in situ He's
1:37:05
there and up in the
1:37:07
northeast we have Jenny Sullivan.
1:37:10
She's provided me with EVPs as well.
1:37:12
You know, there was one there, it
1:37:14
was mad. It's a real pity now
1:37:16
this didn't kick in tonight for you. But
1:37:19
we'll do, hopefully we'll talk again. I
1:37:23
came across this mark years ago.
1:37:25
Did you hear it? Yeah. I
1:37:27
came across this, yeah, where I
1:37:29
met some people who had been
1:37:31
using tape recorders. to tape to
1:37:33
basically record empty rooms and places
1:37:35
where where where it was alleged
1:37:37
things that happened so a bit
1:37:40
like that scene in the sixth
1:37:42
sense when Bruce Willis comes back
1:37:44
and turns up the tape and
1:37:46
then he realizes that the kid
1:37:48
is really haunted he's really being
1:37:50
visited by ghost Hayley Joel Osmond.
1:37:52
But I met people who use
1:37:54
tape recorders in rooms and then
1:37:57
listen back to them, turn them
1:37:59
up real high, and you
1:38:01
could hear voices and stuff like that. That
1:38:03
is freaky stuff though. No, it is freaky stuff.
1:38:05
And some of it is explainable though as
1:38:07
well. I remember one of the very first things
1:38:09
I read about as a teenager. being
1:38:12
a bit of an old army barmy
1:38:14
you know so i was reading this report
1:38:16
and it was about the cold war
1:38:18
so there were the yanks and the the
1:38:20
brits were on maneuvers uh down in
1:38:22
i don't know saxony somewhere in germany anyway
1:38:24
so you can imagine this was nato
1:38:26
time so these guys are all in you
1:38:28
know you know suit and boot is
1:38:30
kitted up to the hilt they're driving along
1:38:32
in there i don't know what what
1:38:34
they had cromwell tanks or whatever they were
1:38:37
right booting along um in on maneuvers And
1:38:39
this is British Army officer, of course,
1:38:41
he's into turret, and he's listening away. And,
1:38:44
you know, the sergeant so -and -so is
1:38:46
driving along. And, you know, these guys have
1:38:48
got little radio sets on. And
1:38:50
you mentioned guttural earlier on,
1:38:53
right? Yes. So these voices start
1:38:55
coming through the, through their
1:38:57
headsets. This fascinates me
1:38:59
as well. I dig into sound and,
1:39:01
you know, minus 20 hertz and
1:39:03
all that stuff where you hear like
1:39:05
submarines coming. Anyway, so they're hearing
1:39:07
all these like this garble. essentially, very
1:39:10
guttural, very military. And
1:39:12
he said, I didn't realize any of our,
1:39:14
you know, German allies were in on this maneuver
1:39:16
with us. And, you know, the guys are
1:39:19
looking blankly and said, well, they're not, sir. Well,
1:39:21
what's going on? One of them was
1:39:23
able to speak German. He said,
1:39:25
I'm listening. These
1:39:27
were World War Two intercepts,
1:39:30
right? This was some
1:39:32
SS Wehrmacht divisions, you know,
1:39:34
calling out the orders.
1:39:36
30 or 30 years beforehand,
1:39:38
right? So what had happened was
1:39:40
I think they were in a valley. And
1:39:43
the original transmissions, the signals
1:39:45
had somehow again, we're going
1:39:47
back to being replayed under
1:39:49
certain atmospherics, you know,
1:39:51
we're bouncing about. So
1:39:53
like, you know, in the middle of
1:39:55
the Cold War, like World War II
1:39:58
was being relived kind of stuff. So
1:40:00
that's not... That is phenomenal. I mean,
1:40:02
that is a phenomenon, isn't it? That
1:40:04
such a thing could actually happen. So
1:40:06
it wasn't something from beyond the grave.
1:40:08
It was that, again, some echo, some
1:40:10
recording of it in some way that
1:40:12
we really don't understand had actually happened.
1:40:14
So it was always there. Have
1:40:17
I gotten that right? If I understood
1:40:19
that, that's amazing. Will
1:40:21
you hear this from Luke? Luke,
1:40:23
like many pet owners, was
1:40:25
devastated when his cat passed
1:40:27
away because she had cancer.
1:40:30
And he wasn't allowed to
1:40:32
spend her last moments with
1:40:34
her when she was euthanised
1:40:36
because of the bastard COVID
1:40:38
restrictions. John Waters
1:40:40
is right. They should be horse -whipped.
1:40:42
Oh, God. Horse -whipped, all of them.
1:40:45
So he says, Luke, he says, look,
1:40:47
look, I tried a number of
1:40:49
psychics to see if I could contact
1:40:51
the cat who he called Izzy.
1:40:53
but all of them were ridiculous. But
1:40:55
I then remembered my ex used to
1:40:57
talk about a psychic she used to
1:40:59
go to so I contacted the psychic.
1:41:02
Now the woman knew nothing about me
1:41:04
or that I was wanting to contact
1:41:06
Izzy the cat. Nothing. As
1:41:08
soon as she picked up the
1:41:10
phone to speak with me she said
1:41:12
to me I have a cat
1:41:14
here who is very happy that you
1:41:16
have kept some of her for
1:41:19
in a tub under the bed. Now
1:41:21
Richie says Luke That was
1:41:23
totally true. She then
1:41:25
asked me, she said she wanted to know
1:41:27
who's the black cat. And I literally
1:41:29
had a black cat follow me home a
1:41:32
couple of nights previous. And I was
1:41:34
looking after her until I could hopefully find
1:41:36
her owner, which I eventually did. So
1:41:38
not only did she know about Izzy, but
1:41:40
she knew that I was kind of
1:41:42
kind of a surrogate owner to another cat
1:41:44
while we were trying to locate the
1:41:46
owner. And she told me other things about
1:41:49
Izzy that she couldn't possibly have known. It's
1:41:52
amazing to me that well Luke I sympathize
1:41:54
with you because I mean I'm by the
1:41:56
way rich you know when somebody says something
1:41:58
like that I mean I do listen to
1:42:00
it and it's if I come back to
1:42:02
you it's not like oh I want to
1:42:04
go on better than you right so just
1:42:07
I would like to say to Luke I
1:42:09
mean I've got two cats and one hates
1:42:11
me hates me. The other is lovely. Why
1:42:14
do you put up with the cat
1:42:16
that hates you? I can't understand that.
1:42:18
You know, she has reason. She's a
1:42:20
long memory, but I had to remove
1:42:23
her with a brush one time, a
1:42:25
sweetened brush. When she came first,
1:42:27
she kept hiding behind the couch. We had her
1:42:29
there about six weeks, but like the stink of
1:42:31
kitty litter. I had to remove her. She loves
1:42:33
everyone else. She even loves like if my daughter
1:42:35
is a boyfriend in or something, she'll be there
1:42:37
looking at me, going, I like him, but I
1:42:39
don't like you. But anyway. Here's
1:42:41
a quick one, just for Luke, along some
1:42:43
similar lines. So
1:42:45
we had a cat special, by the way. So do
1:42:47
check that one out on Scarier as well. So
1:42:51
when the other guy that
1:42:53
loves me, Marvin, arrived, he had
1:42:55
a brother called Professor Puss.
1:42:57
And Professor was one of these
1:42:59
long, I know, it gets
1:43:01
worse. Pussy galore here,
1:43:03
Rich. Anyway, so I had
1:43:06
this guy, Professor Puss, was
1:43:08
the other cat. And
1:43:10
he used to go upstairs into a converted
1:43:12
attic we have, which I originally started my
1:43:14
voice over working. And he'd
1:43:16
he'd go under a bed. So my wife
1:43:18
is she's not to be messed with. She's from
1:43:20
Belfast, you know what I mean? Like, yes,
1:43:22
every so often herself and the girls get together
1:43:24
down here. And even though she's been here
1:43:26
40 years, she still has that metallic accent. And
1:43:29
she said that bloody cat, I think he might
1:43:31
be under one of the beds upstairs. Will you ever
1:43:33
go up and remove them in case he freaks
1:43:35
out one of the girls, you know? Now,
1:43:38
what I used to regularly do this. I
1:43:40
go up, I get Professor Puss, I bring
1:43:42
him down, but I had an awful habit
1:43:44
and look, look, I put my hand up,
1:43:46
but it was just, you know, when you've
1:43:48
been in Egypt, it's sheer diviment, right? You
1:43:50
might remember, I don't consider myself Michael Jackson,
1:43:52
but remember, he kind of, he hung his
1:43:54
kid out over the window of a hotel
1:43:56
one time. He did indeed. Yeah. Yeah. Now,
1:43:58
I did it on a micro scale now
1:44:00
before people horse with me, right? So I'd
1:44:02
be coming down this little stairs, little windy
1:44:04
stairs, and would Professor Puss nice to just
1:44:06
kind of hang him over the edge for
1:44:08
a microsecond. And he'd always go, wow, you
1:44:10
know, and this is just how I got
1:44:12
making sad, you know, middle -aged kids. Yeah,
1:44:14
yeah. You know, I never would hurt them,
1:44:16
for God's sake. But I mean, I just, just, it was a
1:44:18
kind of habit. And, you know, haha, I got the rising at
1:44:20
that time. That night,
1:44:22
it was a dirty old Friday
1:44:24
Dublin like last night, kiss
1:44:27
and rain, forgive my vernacular. And, you know,
1:44:29
anyway, I had Professor Paulson here. Come on.
1:44:31
I don't want you freaking out the girls.
1:44:33
And then I did my usual, put them
1:44:35
over the banister. Nothing. Professor
1:44:38
Puss just hung there,
1:44:40
inert. And then
1:44:42
I went, do it again. You
1:44:44
know, the devil in me. Professor
1:44:46
Puss kind of went just hanging
1:44:48
there. Suddenly I cuddled him
1:44:50
and I said, all right, you know, you're
1:44:52
all right, old son. Suddenly I
1:44:55
took him down, forgot all about him. He was
1:44:57
killed by a car that night. It
1:44:59
was almost like he knew. You know,
1:45:01
that sounds fanciful. That was the first
1:45:03
time he had ever done that. And
1:45:05
you know, I've been up to the
1:45:07
DSPCA would breed a bird in appropriate
1:45:09
enough name, lovely lady up there, interviewed
1:45:11
her for radio years ago. And
1:45:14
you know, cats and stuff and
1:45:16
dogs, they go bananas at certain conditions,
1:45:18
like full moons and stuff. Yeah.
1:45:20
So they have they have sensitivity. We
1:45:22
don't. I tell you, we when
1:45:24
it's well known that Eleven
1:45:27
or so years ago Carolina myself lived
1:45:29
with David with David Ike in London
1:45:31
for a year and we had a
1:45:33
German shepherd at the time she passed
1:45:35
away a couple years ago. Her
1:45:37
name was jazz beautiful animal wonderful
1:45:40
animal very timid. but she used
1:45:42
to obsess over David's hands and
1:45:44
anybody who knows anything about David
1:45:46
Eich will know that David's football
1:45:48
career was cut short by rheumatoid
1:45:50
arthritis and he was crippled by
1:45:53
it and even to this day
1:45:55
now he would have days where
1:45:57
his hands would really really play
1:45:59
up on him now David has
1:46:01
access to because of the nature
1:46:04
of the work he's involved in
1:46:06
he has access to knowledge about
1:46:08
certain things he can do to
1:46:10
alleviate the pain in his hands,
1:46:12
of course, but there were times
1:46:14
when his hands would kind of
1:46:17
be gnarled and they would gnarling
1:46:19
and jazz would climb up on
1:46:21
the sofa and would lick and
1:46:23
nurture his hands for 15, 20,
1:46:25
25 minutes. And David used
1:46:27
to make us laugh, you know, we
1:46:29
were like the three's company we were like
1:46:31
a sitcom and we would always fake
1:46:34
you on you know because David would say
1:46:36
something well obviously Rich um Jazz can
1:46:38
see the energy we would fake you on
1:46:40
you know ah fuck off you know
1:46:42
what I mean kind of a thing for
1:46:44
the laugh but um I believe he
1:46:46
was right Jazz could see what we couldn't
1:46:48
see weak we couldn't see into his
1:46:50
hand but he could see in there and
1:46:52
could see that the energy was all
1:46:55
messed up and she was trying to do
1:46:57
something about it. I've no doubt in
1:46:59
my mind. Oh yeah, and apparently as well,
1:47:01
certain dogs, they can sniff cancer. Yes, that's
1:47:03
an established fact though, isn't
1:47:06
it? Isn't that amazing? had
1:47:09
a show called Lucas Balds,
1:47:11
right? B -O -L -S. And
1:47:13
believe it or not, he's actually part of the family
1:47:15
of the Balds family. The
1:47:17
Drinks family. The Drinks people. Yeah. And
1:47:19
he's lovely guy, beautiful guy. Oh, Richard,
1:47:21
you'd love him. He's into, he's a
1:47:23
film, um, he's a film director. He
1:47:26
does a lot of commercials and stuff.
1:47:28
So he was, you know, by the
1:47:30
way, any, anyone listen, when we say
1:47:32
a scary era, EIRE, which is the
1:47:34
Gaelic for Ireland. And tomorrow, commanding media
1:47:36
is what you need to look up.
1:47:38
Yeah. Plugs in there. But, you know,
1:47:40
what I'm saying is, you know, don't.
1:47:43
bar anybody just because they're not Irish
1:47:45
from coming on this show. I love international
1:47:47
interludes. I mean, I've had a guy,
1:47:50
Billy Kirkwood, comedian on from Scotland. Great guy,
1:47:52
did a beautiful read for me as
1:47:54
well, but I've had all kinds of sound
1:47:56
effects too. But Lucas
1:47:58
Boulds, one of the things as
1:48:00
well as amazing World War II story
1:48:02
he told me, was that fact
1:48:04
about dogs. They were employed even to
1:48:06
kind of sniff out cancers and
1:48:09
stuff. So it does exist. As
1:48:11
I said, just once you keep an open
1:48:13
mind, Sure, who'd have thought half the things that
1:48:15
we're going through recently would have ever happened.
1:48:18
You would have had your head examined. I'm
1:48:20
going to read you one more message from Grace.
1:48:23
When I was 13, Richie,
1:48:25
I had an awful nightmare.
1:48:27
My cousin... had blonde hair, female,
1:48:31
was in a car accident with her
1:48:33
boyfriend. He was Turkish. So
1:48:35
I had this dream I was 13.
1:48:37
They died. It was incredibly vivid. She
1:48:39
was in a dark car in a
1:48:41
tunnel with bright white lights all in
1:48:43
a row. I ran into my mum
1:48:45
and dad's room and said that Leanne, that
1:48:47
was her name, was in a terrible car accident.
1:48:49
They calmed me down and said it was
1:48:51
a bad dream. The next morning
1:48:53
we awoke to the news that Princess
1:48:56
Diana had died in a car accident
1:48:58
and it was pretty much the exact
1:49:00
same image I had seen in my
1:49:02
bad dream. That's interesting isn't it?
1:49:04
That's very interesting. I'm going to be talking
1:49:06
about something next week which for the
1:49:08
bloody life of me I can't
1:49:10
remember off the top of
1:49:12
my head but it is
1:49:14
some research that is currently
1:49:16
it's in its 25th or
1:49:18
26th year by Stanford University
1:49:20
and it's looking into global
1:49:22
consciousness and how when certain
1:49:24
things happen in the world
1:49:26
that cause a really emotional
1:49:28
reaction amongst millions of people
1:49:30
how that emotional reaction can
1:49:32
impact on physical systems. It's
1:49:35
amazing, isn't it? Stanford University
1:49:37
been doing it for years.
1:49:39
And I knew nothing about it until recently.
1:49:41
And apparently, what they do
1:49:43
is they put these instruments around the
1:49:45
world, which generate random numbers and
1:49:48
things. And they'll just tick along, generating
1:49:50
the random numbers. But sometimes when
1:49:52
really, really very emotional things happen, a
1:49:54
landslide or an earthquake that kills
1:49:56
thousands of people or a crazy terrorist
1:49:58
attack, these systems will go haywire.
1:50:00
And they reckon it's because of the
1:50:02
emotional, energetic outpouring of people. And
1:50:05
I'm going to be talking about that
1:50:07
next week. I'm going to give
1:50:09
you the final word, by the way,
1:50:11
because we're banged out of time.
1:50:13
Mark Manning is brilliant. I'm going to
1:50:15
ask Mark to come back on
1:50:17
again soon to pick up this very
1:50:19
conversation. scary era is the
1:50:22
podcast it's terrific check it out
1:50:24
and i'll put the links on but
1:50:26
you need only look for mark
1:50:28
manning media and you'll find mark on
1:50:30
on x that was a blast
1:50:32
by the way and it's also very
1:50:34
important because these are important questions
1:50:36
to be asking and talking about these
1:50:38
subjects because there's far more to their
1:50:40
reality that we can see, smell, taste and
1:50:42
touch. That's my opinion anyway. Final word to
1:50:44
you. It's been brilliant Mark. Thank you. It's
1:50:47
been fantastic and thank you so much. It's
1:50:49
been tremendous and thanks so much Richie because
1:50:51
I know it's funny like you know when
1:50:53
you retweet me it's like I have this
1:50:55
shop that nobody goes into and then when
1:50:57
I retweet it's certainly like it's like an
1:50:59
American marching band comes through when you do
1:51:01
it and you see the spike. Then
1:51:04
I'm left to wander at my empty shop again
1:51:06
but really quickly if people want to get in touch
1:51:08
and be on the show Email
1:51:10
Paranormal Ireland at protonmail .com. That's
1:51:12
Paranormal Ireland at protonmail .com. Thanks again,
1:51:15
Richie. Give over and join the
1:51:17
rest of the evening and let's
1:51:19
do it again really soon. Let's
1:51:21
follow it up. I could tell
1:51:23
Mark there's at least 30 messages
1:51:25
with stories and accounts experiences people
1:51:27
have had. I'd love to get
1:51:29
into them again soon with Mark
1:51:31
on the programme. Mark Manning Media.
1:51:33
You have been listening to the
1:51:35
Irish Act tour. voiceover
1:51:37
artist radio presenter a teacher and
1:51:40
podcast host mark manning it was
1:51:42
brilliant having him on thanks mark
1:51:44
uh lovely departure that from hard
1:51:46
news i want more of them
1:51:48
and i do mean it when
1:51:50
i say these are important subjects
1:51:52
and topics to discuss back tomorrow
1:51:54
at five i'm going to get
1:51:56
right out now with steve winwood
1:51:58
five o 'clock tomorrow thursday's program You
1:52:01
enjoy the rest of your Wednesday from
1:52:03
the BBG in Salvard. It's over and out.
1:52:05
Bye now. Thanks again Mark. Bye.
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