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Like, rate us, review us, give

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is Charles Robinson Friday. Charles Robinson,

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Yahoo Sports. The Black ones. the

1:30

black Charles Robinson. I did we did

1:33

this last year. I don't I don't

1:35

I really I really had made y'all

1:37

have two Charles Robinson. I'd really I

1:39

really done that. I feel like we

1:42

should keep that in the cut. Like

1:44

you're like let's be honest here man

1:46

if you put a picture of you

1:48

two up which one of y'all is

1:51

Charles Robinson which one of y'all

1:53

is Charles McDonald I don't have

1:55

an answer and if I get

1:57

voice samples from the two of

1:59

you. Charles Robinson, which one of you

2:02

is Charles McDonald. That's happened to me.

2:04

So I'm in Indianapolis right now for

2:06

the NFL Combine. I think it's happened

2:08

three or four times this week. We're

2:10

like, oh, Charles Robinson. I'm like, close,

2:12

close, but no cigar. Charles is a

2:15

six-four white guy. I'm around six feet

2:17

tall, not white, you know, so we're

2:19

working on it. We're still working on

2:21

it. I've been here for almost three

2:23

years now, and I still get Charles

2:26

Robinson. I rock with both of y'all

2:28

though, that's the reason why it goes

2:30

that way. It's not like I'm calling

2:32

you somebody's name who I don't like

2:34

a lot, you know. Right, I appreciate

2:36

that. You know, we could be beefing

2:39

in the Starbucks, right? Apparently, you know,

2:41

up there at, I mean, the combine,

2:43

which is a big old out-of-town trip,

2:45

they was getting into it at Starbucks.

2:47

at the hotel, Adam, Adam, Adam, Shefter

2:50

set out a tweet as there's Indianapolis,

2:52

head on a swivel with a picture

2:54

of the Starbucks. That was hilarious. You

2:56

know, it's just like, it's funny because

2:58

it's like the lowest steak stuff, right?

3:01

You know, we're talking about a Matthew

3:03

Stafford report if he went to Tom

3:05

Brady in February. after the Rams gave

3:07

him permission to seek a trade like

3:09

maybe he did go over there maybe

3:11

he didn't but one thing I know

3:14

is you're not about to come put

3:16

a finger in my face so for

3:18

that you know crazy there is that

3:20

and by the way since you jumped

3:22

on that the Stafford story is very

3:25

interesting to me yes I do actually

3:27

think that there is something about whether

3:29

and the story is that Matthew Stafford

3:31

was at some some joint in Montana

3:33

and depending on who you ask either

3:36

he ran into Tom Brady or it

3:38

was an orchestrated meeting with Tom Brady

3:40

to talk about maybe him going to

3:42

play for the Las Vegas Raiders I

3:44

would just like to point out wow

3:46

this Matthew Stafford guy has this incredible

3:49

knack for just winding up at hotels

3:51

on vacation with people that he might

3:53

play for the next year because that's

3:55

the same god damn story they had

3:57

about how he wound up with the

4:00

Rams, right? He was just about a

4:02

Mexico. And what do you know? Sean

4:04

McVeigh happened to be at the same

4:06

place. Also, given what we know about

4:08

Tom Brady, we know that while he

4:10

was broadcasting games for Fox, he was

4:13

talking to Ben Johnson about this Raiders

4:15

gig. This is much less offensive than

4:17

that because it's been permission to seek

4:19

a trade. So if you were to

4:21

talk to Tom Brady, that should be

4:24

okay. It is funny, they're squabbling a

4:26

little bit about it, they're squabbling over

4:28

here about it. It was a talk

4:30

of the town last night, you know,

4:32

you were running to Ian Rapporte, he

4:35

wasn't the happiest guy, so I haven't

4:37

seen Jordan Schultz, so I'm going to

4:39

try to try to get the full

4:41

story from both parties and see what

4:43

we can dig up here. Let me

4:45

ask you this. If you're Matthew Stafford,

4:48

is there a reason you would go

4:50

to the raiders? I mean, I can

4:52

really think of. Matthew Stafford has no

4:54

guarantee money left in his contract and

4:56

he people are higher on him now

4:59

than literally they have ever been in

5:01

his career. He's just old right that's

5:03

just that's the only thing that comes

5:05

up he obviously as a quarterback would

5:07

at this point or anybody he wants

5:09

to guarantee money in the contract obviously

5:12

he's got some leverage over the Rams

5:14

because they need a quarterback but there

5:16

seems to be a discrepancy between what

5:18

the Rams want to pay and what

5:20

Stafford wants to be paid. So they

5:23

have given him permission to seek a

5:25

trade with at least both sides given

5:27

the impression they don't actually want to

5:29

trade. They just want him to go

5:31

out and set the figure out what

5:34

the market is, which to me sounds

5:36

like restricted free agency, which in the

5:38

NBA never involves much action because why

5:40

would a team waste their time just

5:42

to set the market for somebody else?

5:44

And to me, the Rams will have

5:47

to pay whatever it happens to be

5:49

because they have no backup plan. Anyway.

5:51

He and Montana and one way or

5:53

another he runs into Tom Brady and

5:55

I don't care Tom Brady, I don't

5:58

care what Tom Brady does for that

6:00

team. Voluntarily going to play for the

6:02

Raiders. But you're gonna do that for.

6:04

It's crazy. At this point in your

6:06

career? For what? Why? Why would you?

6:09

Why would you do that? I would

6:11

sooner retire than do that. It really

6:13

makes no sense to me. Also because

6:15

is that a better situation than being

6:17

able to play like pukkakua for a

6:19

year or two more? I mean, Brock

6:22

Bowers, that's a cold boy. But at

6:24

the same time. The Raiders? Like, why?

6:26

The infrastructure is not there. You're playing

6:28

for the first time, coach. You play

6:30

for Sean McVeigh right now. Don't mess

6:33

that up. The grass is not always

6:35

greener on the other side. He comes

6:37

from Detroit. He should know that better

6:39

than anyone. So I do think it's

6:41

kind of interesting they're in this space

6:43

because I don't really understand why they're

6:46

trying to get rid of Matthew Stafford

6:48

or what their thought process is here,

6:50

because there's been rumors you're talking about

6:52

putting Sam I don't understand that one

6:54

either. I mean, I watched Sam play

6:57

all year. I covered Sam when he

6:59

was on the Jets. Why would you

7:01

want to just throw that into your

7:03

your starting quarterback spot when you already

7:05

have Matthew Stafford? Maybe, you know, Stafford's

7:08

trying to get some guaranteed money. I

7:10

understand that. But from the Rams perspective,

7:12

I watched him play last year, he

7:14

looks all right. Looks like he still

7:16

got a year or two left. I

7:18

guess it just comes down to how

7:21

expensive it is, but I don't know

7:23

how expensive. I can only presume here

7:25

that Stafford is putting the screws to

7:27

them. Because why would he not put

7:29

the screws to him? That was a,

7:32

the decision they made, and I guess

7:34

this is still the Rams having to

7:36

make their salary cap work because of

7:38

all the damage they've done to it

7:40

over the years. But winding up in

7:43

this situation where you get to this

7:45

point right here, where Matthew Stafford has

7:47

no guarantee money in his contract, and

7:49

you have no backup plan. I don't

7:51

know how you get yourself there. Stafford's

7:53

got to be looking at that and

7:56

being like, I want a hundred million

7:58

dollars. But this year, why not? What

8:00

y'all gonna do? Two years. 150, 100

8:02

guaranteed, why not? Why not? Like, literally,

8:04

like, honestly, if you're Stafford, that is

8:07

not terribly unreasonable to throw

8:09

with them a hundred guaranteed

8:12

over these years? Yeah, why not?

8:14

Yeah, well, that's a good point. Because

8:16

what are you going to do? You

8:19

going to start setting Bennett? Right. Right.

8:21

No, but it is a good point.

8:23

I'm curious to see what the price

8:26

he gets back out there because

8:28

he was. 36, 37 years old, but

8:30

he could still sling it, you know.

8:32

So if you're a team like the

8:34

Jets or the Giants, you know, these

8:37

crappy New York teams, I know they're

8:39

interested in Matthew Stafford, so why

8:41

not go see what you can

8:44

do out there? Because that's a

8:46

good point. You do have the Rams

8:48

by the balls. What's you gonna do?

8:50

Or is you gonna do trade up

8:53

in draft cam ward or is that

8:55

your plan? Like, no, what are or

8:57

as you just put it. You're gonna

8:59

get Sam Donald, huh? Yeah. Okay.

9:01

All right, buddy. All right, buddy. I

9:03

do think it says a lot about

9:06

what the combine has become that this

9:08

is like the hot story of

9:10

the week. You know, no one really works

9:12

out all that much. So we're

9:14

relying on reporter beef and, you know,

9:17

a quarterback on the last legs

9:19

to generate these headlines for us.

9:21

It's, it's. I don't really know how I

9:23

feel about being in Minneapolis right now, the

9:26

longer, the longer I see. The combine for

9:28

y'all to hang out with each other, all

9:30

the scouts, it's like the Scout family reunion,

9:32

everybody comes and posts up, like there's, I

9:34

mean, there's some, there's some people that need

9:36

to work out, people that don't need to

9:39

work out, are in large part not going

9:41

to wind up doing it. No, you're right,

9:43

but it just. It's a good chance for

9:45

people to like get together and you know

9:47

talk about some trades, talk about you know,

9:49

kick the tires on what might happen in

9:51

advance of the draft. It's an out-of-town

9:53

trip for work. Yes, yes. Lots of lots

9:56

of out-of-town behavior. You can probably hear it

9:58

on my voice a little bit. Lots of

10:00

town behavior was done last night for

10:02

sure. Yeah, in a town that got

10:04

one restaurant that y'all that anybody ever

10:07

say anything about. And honestly, I never

10:09

even eaten there before. I've never eaten

10:11

food at Prime 47. Well, actually, no,

10:13

that's not true. Because around 3 o'clock

10:15

in the morning, they bring out one.

10:17

Hold on, hold on, Prime 47. There

10:20

are two places. I was thinking about

10:22

St. Elmos. Oh, St. Helmos, man, that's,

10:24

that place sucks, bro. I don't, I

10:26

think, I, I think it sucks. Like,

10:28

I've, last year, I went there, and

10:30

I paid like $90 for a steak,

10:32

that I could have made at home

10:35

myself. So we're talking about some shrimp

10:37

cocktail. Harry and I's got better shrimp

10:39

cocktail than St. Helmos. Like, I couldn't

10:41

believe how overhyped that place was the

10:43

first on my 8th there, and then

10:45

you go to prime 7th on my

10:48

8th. nice club for the week. Like

10:50

they'll stay up until 6 o'clock in

10:52

the morning as long as people are

10:54

in there spending money this week. It's

10:56

something else. So you started like high

10:58

velocity, which is near where the crime

11:00

happened between Jordan Shultz and Ian Rapport

11:03

yesterday. Then you go out to prime

11:05

and you just stay out as long

11:07

as you can. That could be 1

11:09

o'clock in the morning. You could stay

11:11

until the sun rises, but as long

11:13

as you're spending money, that place will

11:16

be open. Which I can kind of

11:18

be a reporter in the way that

11:20

you are, because I'm going home, bro.

11:22

I'm going home. I'm not about to

11:24

be out here all night at no

11:26

sausage party, bro. Like y'all up till

11:28

6 o'clock in the morning and it's

11:31

a bunch of y'all. Yeah, yeah. Like

11:33

is there, is there, you know, shall

11:35

we say, I mean, do the groupies

11:37

come to the combine? There we go.

11:39

That's all I'm asking. Do they make

11:41

it there? They ain't trying to hang

11:44

out with me though, you know. I

11:46

understand that, but I'm just actually generally

11:48

speaking, like do they make it to

11:50

town? Because I do have to say,

11:52

that's a good opportunity for them to

11:54

do some scouting, also, right? Get up

11:56

there, see, see what young boys are.

11:59

Oh, I see, look who ran a

12:01

four, three. He's rising with a bullet,

12:03

okay. but it's not the kind of

12:05

groupies that maybe you or I would

12:07

be interested. It's more like women who

12:09

got, they got, they got like kids

12:12

who play soccer, you know, they're coming

12:14

out to the combine to try and

12:16

meet some middle-aged guys, you know, it's

12:18

not... Yes, yeah, I'm not talking about

12:20

the groupies for the Scouts right now,

12:22

because I mean, that would be hilarious.

12:24

I'm talking about if I was an

12:27

enterprising groupie trying to get on the

12:29

young boys. reps of 225, seeing who's

12:31

shooting up that boy before the rest

12:33

of them get a hold there. Like

12:35

if you're real enterprising, that's what I

12:37

would be doing. Man, they got these

12:40

guys on lockdown. So you'd have to

12:42

be real, real skilled. Real skilled. Real

12:44

skilled. Real skilled. Charles, Charles. Let me

12:46

spend some tea about that world. You

12:48

are right. Someone would have to be

12:50

real skilled to do that. But you

12:52

say that as though there aren't skills

12:55

to have. I know, I know, I

12:57

know. Like I used to know somebody

12:59

who worked covering the game in Atlanta,

13:01

it would be so funny. And she

13:03

would talk about how the different, the

13:05

levels of groupie and how far they

13:08

could get, right? Like there's like the

13:10

tier one groupie that could only get

13:12

to this place. Then there's the one

13:14

like who could only get like down

13:16

to court side. And then there's the

13:18

ones that know the ones that could

13:20

even if they could get to every

13:23

like into the inner bowels of the

13:25

situation. through time after time, year after

13:27

year, establishing the proper relationships, they could

13:29

pull that off. If you was a

13:31

real one, not saying you, not the

13:33

you, you, but the other kind of

13:36

you. But if you was a real

13:38

one, I bet that personality Indianapolis don't

13:40

rotate, right? You just go up there

13:42

every year. They ain't getting a whole

13:44

lot of love. They ain't seeing the

13:46

best of the best. You know what

13:48

I'm saying? You could get your ass

13:51

out there with a stopwatch. You could

13:53

be in the stands, you know, at

13:55

the combine, trying to see who's the

13:57

fastest real estate out here. That's right.

13:59

That's what they need to be hiring

14:01

as the scouts. Right? Like it's the

14:04

same way I look at it as

14:06

like, you know, when you need analysis,

14:08

sometimes you call a gambler. Like, look,

14:10

the state's a higher for them, right?

14:12

They really need to know who's going

14:14

to win. They are not swayed by

14:16

biases in the same way. These people,

14:19

as I here, trying to get they,

14:21

get they, get they percentage

14:23

of the future. Oh, no. They do, they

14:25

look at this a little blocked

14:27

off area. before you can walk

14:30

through the tunnel to Lucas Oil Stadium. And

14:32

there's just different kind of groupies. I'm talking

14:34

about old-ass men who are just standing in

14:36

the corner with footballs, stuff, waiting for anyone

14:38

to walk past. So like, let's say Pete

14:40

Carroll walks past. P, P, P, P, P,

14:43

P, P, P, P. Please, like, some of

14:45

my shirt, I'm like. All I got nothing

14:47

better to do than just say I

14:49

know those are memorabilia hawks. They try

14:51

to go sell those. They're at the

14:54

airport too, you know, it's it's kind

14:56

of fascinating to me like they'll sit

14:58

and they will sit there all day.

15:01

Oh, you've not heard my Calvin Johnson

15:03

story about this. I've not. It is

15:05

a Calvin Johnson story. It is a

15:07

Boston story. I have told it on

15:09

this pod before I'm aware that

15:11

I have, but it's still a funny

15:13

story. So in 2022. at Sloan, you

15:16

know, the sports sports conference. Yeah, I

15:18

presented there once. Okay, yeah, I did

15:20

a I did a Q&A with Calvin

15:22

Johnson talking about weed because God forbid

15:24

you asked me to talk about math.

15:27

Anyway, so I'm sitting there and I'm

15:29

talking to him about stuff and on

15:31

the way out, he and his people

15:33

asked me if I want to ride to

15:36

the train station, which I did not need,

15:38

but it would have looked bad if I

15:40

had been turning him down, but it was

15:42

so close, right. I walk with him. So

15:44

it's me, it's Calvin, it's

15:47

his managers, it's a dude that

15:49

had a little issue on

15:51

the airport with accidentally

15:53

urinating on somebody. But

15:56

that's the story for

15:58

another day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll tell

16:00

you about that. He lived to

16:02

see you another day? Yeah, yeah,

16:04

yeah, yeah, tough go, tough go.

16:07

Story was in the news. I

16:09

feel bad for the dude. I

16:11

don't think, I don't think he

16:13

did it on purpose. But anyway,

16:15

so as we're leaving, it's these

16:17

dudes with the memorabilia, right? They're

16:20

asking them to sign stuff, they

16:22

got all of these things. And

16:24

so they're explaining to me, like

16:26

Calvin's crew is explaining to me,

16:28

that as soon as he got

16:30

off the plane. in Boston. People

16:33

were right outside, like a baggage

16:35

claim, trying to get them to

16:37

sign stuff. Okay? So he shows

16:39

up to the convention center where

16:41

the dork office is taking place.

16:43

And I only saw him once

16:46

we're in, when we walk out,

16:48

it's now all these people. I

16:50

didn't know this was the case,

16:52

right? So apparently they were outside

16:54

when he was coming in and

16:56

he's a nice dude and he

16:59

told him maybe later. and they

17:01

were trying to cash in there

17:03

later. Okay? And so they outside

17:05

and his guys got on a

17:07

Boston Bruins jersey, the black joint,

17:09

and he's really pressing up, and

17:12

Calvin's just, I don't know why

17:14

he was walking so slow through

17:16

those people, because to me, man,

17:18

we just go vamp, we gonna

17:20

get to the car and just

17:22

bust through these people, but he

17:25

was taking a slow walk, he

17:27

wasn't even looking at him, he's

17:29

a giant man, right? He's just

17:31

looking straight. And the guys like,

17:33

ah, Calvin, you're not, oh, you're

17:35

not gonna sign it, Calvin, you're

17:38

not gonna sign it, that's fucked

17:40

up. I would tell you I

17:42

have a nice flight home, but

17:44

nah, I hope you're playing fucking

17:46

crashes. Whoa! Whoa! You hope I

17:48

die? No, no, no, no, no.

17:51

You don't just hope I die.

17:53

You hope like a hundred people

17:55

die. Everybody, everybody. Maybe he thought

17:57

Calvin flew private, right? Maybe that

17:59

was. way he said I hope

18:01

y'all y'all y'all because it's Boston

18:04

I hope y'all playing fucking crash

18:06

yes so I say that to say

18:08

those guys are not groupies exactly in

18:10

the way that you think they know

18:12

no no no no it's it's it's

18:14

a special brand you know yes but

18:16

like there because there are people who

18:18

are there just to Like, memorabilia hawk,

18:20

sell that shit. But there are people

18:23

who are just like, I shook, so

18:25

is those hand today? And I feel

18:27

really good about it. I stood there

18:30

for eight hours and I got to

18:32

shake Travis Hunter's hand for two seconds.

18:34

Okay, that's fine. I'm never gonna watch

18:36

this hand. Yeah. And there's just so

18:39

many of them. Where are you on

18:41

this Travis Hunter? Should he play two

18:43

positions in the NFL? type

18:45

deal. I think playing two

18:47

positions is preposterous unless they're

18:50

going to give him two paychecks. I

18:52

agree, but today he's up there and he's

18:54

talking about I want to play both in

18:56

the NFL. I was like, why? I don't

18:59

know why people are so intrigued by

19:01

this idea. Now, if you want to, to

19:03

me, he seems to be, although

19:05

I'm hearing people saying that he's

19:07

definitely why receiver won and quarterback

19:09

one in this draft. Okay. To

19:12

my crudely informed opinion. I feel

19:14

like he is rarer as a corner

19:16

than he is as a receiver and

19:18

he's not that big and I don't

19:20

know like I feel like that works

19:22

out better for him as a corner

19:25

than it does as a receiver now

19:27

if you want to have him be

19:29

a corner and every now and then

19:31

you know put have a have a

19:33

package where you bring him in okay

19:35

I think you do that but hey man

19:38

granted Dion Sanders was also playing

19:40

baseball but the wear and tear on

19:42

his body from doing all of that

19:44

stuff is, I mean, he's, he doesn't

19:47

have all his toes. I just can't

19:49

believe they keep pushing this, like, again, are

19:51

you giving me two checks? Was I getting

19:53

two scholarships? Now, what are we talking about

19:56

here? Yeah. I mean, I remember at Colorado,

19:58

like, you look at, like, the. play count

20:00

totals. We're talking like 150 plays per

20:02

game, which is just, dude, I don't

20:05

know how we did it in college.

20:07

You know, let alone in the NFL

20:09

where you're at altitude. Yes, at altitude.

20:11

In the NFL, you have more games.

20:13

You go to the playoffs. You're talking

20:16

about like, potentially a 20 game, 21

20:18

game season if you make it to

20:20

the Super Bowl. What are you talking

20:22

about? You can't play. You just can't

20:24

do it. Maybe we're just the dumbest

20:27

guys ever. We're totally wrong. And this

20:29

is going to be like a Herculean

20:31

feet of athleticism and sheer willpower. But

20:33

like you said, unless I'm getting paid

20:36

for cornerback and wide receiver, I just

20:38

don't see how you could possibly do

20:40

it. And what you're going to learn

20:42

all these coverages, you're going to learn

20:44

all these offensive plays. It's not like

20:47

college. You're not running, you know, four

20:49

or five plays. that takes months and

20:51

months in advance of planning I don't

20:53

know I don't see it but I

20:55

will say I would like to just

20:58

from a curiosity perspective see him give

21:00

it a go for one season just

21:02

as y'all goes because if he's adamant

21:04

on trying in America baby go for

21:06

it and I mean he's incredible Yes.

21:09

Like who was that I saw that's

21:11

it that watched his tape saw one

21:13

bad play. That sounds about right. That

21:15

sounds about right. Do you think he

21:18

should be the number one pick in

21:20

the draft? Because this is a draft

21:22

that doesn't really seem to have a

21:24

number one pick. Yeah, I would. I

21:26

would. And you know, it's funny because

21:29

it kind of reminds me of the,

21:31

a few years ago there's a draft,

21:33

I think, with Trayvon Walker once first

21:35

overall. And I think people kind of

21:37

default to this idea, oh, you can't

21:40

take a corner back number one overall.

21:42

Well, why not? Because if you go

21:44

back to that class, Derek Singley, first

21:46

overall, doesn't sound that crazy when you

21:49

watch him play now. So if you

21:51

think he can be. It's not Gardner's

21:53

in that draft too, right? Yep, that's

21:55

right. They went back-to-back picks. And you

21:57

saw Aidan Hudson too, but hey. Like,

22:00

those guys are impact, you know, all pro

22:02

level defenders at their best. I don't really

22:04

think that's that crazy to take Travis Hunter

22:06

that high, if you think he can be

22:09

that level of player, you know, there are

22:11

some like debates like, oh, is he going

22:13

to be strong enough to hold up

22:15

against NFO wide receivers? Like, if AJ

22:17

Brown comes his way, how's that going

22:20

to look? But shoot, what, he's only

22:22

21? He's still got time to get

22:24

stronger, get stronger, get bigger. Learn the

22:26

final points of the final points of the

22:28

game. I think I think man like

22:30

his ability at cornerback is so rare

22:33

there's there's the interception I think they're

22:35

playing like Baylor or something where he's

22:37

basically covering two zones at once and

22:39

the way like he hits like this

22:42

this extra gear to drive downhill like 10

22:44

yards and pick a ball off that he

22:46

wasn't even covered in the first place like

22:48

dude if you can do that. you got

22:50

to play cornerback because that's just it's too

22:53

rare from a skill to have and I

22:55

understand there are people who are like oh

22:57

wide receivers get paid more so he should

22:59

play wide receiver but what's more likely like

23:01

you hit your ceiling at cornerback or you

23:03

hit a wide receiver now for a guy

23:05

like him I don't know maybe he could

23:07

hit ceiling up both but man I would

23:09

just be a cornerback shut down half the

23:11

field and go get paid on that side of

23:13

the fall. Well I will also make this point.

23:15

If you think he can play both ways

23:18

and would like to make him play

23:20

both ways, then hell yeah, you make

23:22

him the number one picking the draft.

23:24

If you think he's, if you think he

23:26

is two players in one, right?

23:29

This isn't even a discussion

23:31

if you actually think that

23:33

there's anybody in this draft

23:35

who legitimately has the plan

23:37

of playing Travis Hunter both

23:39

ways, like in a starter

23:41

capacity, both ways. If that is your

23:43

plan. then he's the no-brainer number one

23:45

overall pick. Yeah. Oh, I would take

23:47

a number one in a heartbeat. And

23:49

I would take a number one just

23:52

off the corner back skills. But you're

23:54

right, like, let's say, if I'm saying

23:56

that three, and I think I can

23:58

have a top 10 quarterback. and a

24:00

top 10 wide receiver with

24:02

the same pick, I would trade

24:04

a lot to get that.

24:06

So if you're in Tennessee, I

24:09

get the quarterback is intriguing, but I

24:11

think at some point you have to just

24:13

start looking at like player caliber. You know,

24:15

we're talking, someone who can be the best

24:18

quarterback in the NFL while also being,

24:20

you know, an explosive weapon on offense or

24:22

Cam Ward, who I think could be like

24:24

a pretty good quarterback. I don't know, like

24:26

that's where I've kind of gotten, or maybe

24:28

just gotten bored of the whole quarterback

24:30

discussions in the past few years. But I

24:32

think it's interesting to talk about like calibers

24:34

of players. Cause yeah, you can default and

24:36

say, oh, just go take the quarterback.

24:38

That's easy. But I don't know, there's something

24:40

special. Like if you really think you can

24:42

do both of those things, that's, that's crazy.

24:45

That's crazy. Well, hold on. Now coming up

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28:58

Sports I did that on purpose

29:00

that time I did it on

29:02

purpose yes but it seems that

29:04

there's a consensus Not necessarily the

29:07

cam board's the number one overall

29:09

pick, but the cam ward is

29:11

the number one quarterback. I mean,

29:13

I think that seems to be

29:15

pretty clear where we are on

29:17

that. Where are you on him?

29:20

I mean, I don't mean this

29:22

in necessarily a bad way, but

29:24

I think he's got subjamus to

29:26

him that you're going to have

29:28

to scrub out. Because to be

29:31

clear. He's not. He's not going

29:33

to be scared out there, which

29:35

I think there's some real value

29:37

to. You know, there's a lot

29:39

of quarterbacks, I think. We got

29:41

caught, like, in the middle areas,

29:44

or in the mid-20-10s, where we

29:46

were just living three yards, a

29:48

pass at a time, and there's

29:50

a lot of guys who are

29:52

comfortable doing that. He's going to

29:54

try to throw the ball down

29:57

the field and take risks, which

29:59

is good. He's got a he doesn't

30:01

have a clock in his head. He's got

30:03

a sundial like he's moving slow out there

30:06

He is taking his time trying to figure

30:08

out like what can I realistically

30:10

stretch to the limits of possibilities

30:12

on this play and It worked out

30:14

a lot from Miami last year

30:16

But there's also some really really bad

30:19

plays out there where you know he's

30:21

getting stripsack because he's running away from

30:23

a defensive end And he forgets like

30:25

that defense event is still chasing him

30:27

like little object permanence type deal, you

30:30

know, just because he got away from

30:32

the first time. He's still coming around

30:34

the second time. And you see some

30:36

bad plays for him there. So it's a

30:38

lot of like, man, if I could just get

30:41

him to stop doing this and just stay

30:43

doing that, we're in a really good spot with

30:45

him. But you know, you look at the arm

30:47

talent for a guy who spent, you know, five

30:49

years in college, he's only like 22, so you're

30:51

not even worried about the age there. I think

30:54

there's a lot to like, it's just,

30:56

you gotta break some bad habits, which,

30:58

you know, I don't really know it

31:00

was always possible. I mean, we were

31:02

saying the same thing about James, we've

31:04

said the same thing about Ryan Fitzpatrick,

31:06

which is a little bit scary to

31:09

me, but man, like the high end

31:11

of his talent, I think is, it's

31:13

worth taking no more one overall, probably.

31:15

Is he as good as like, prospect

31:18

prospect of maybe like Caleb or Drake,

31:20

or Drake, or Drake, Jane Daniels last

31:22

year? you know, I could stomach. By

31:24

the way, that sounds from what you're saying

31:26

is though you were not that enthusiastic

31:29

about the future prospects of Caleb Williams,

31:31

if you believe that the bad habits

31:33

thing is kind of binding. What is

31:35

part of Patrick Mahomes had bad habits

31:38

to break, right? They just took a

31:40

whole year to make the decision to do

31:42

that. I think you're generally making a fair

31:44

point, though. Like the difference between he and

31:47

Camward and James, I would say. That is

31:49

where sounds to be like Cam Ward's

31:51

gonna hold it forever before he makes something

31:53

happen James problem is he think he'd done

31:56

the whole equation off the line and then

31:58

oh man I ain't no you was

32:00

gonna be there. Dude, one of the

32:02

funniest plays is, like I think I

32:05

think it was James's last play in

32:07

Tampa, the 30-picks season. Yes, so they're

32:09

playing the Falcons, they get to overtime,

32:12

he's got 29-picks on the season, I

32:14

think he threw a two during regulation,

32:16

and like the first play of overtime.

32:19

He does exactly that, gets a line,

32:21

okay, I gotta figure it out, jouts

32:23

back. throws it right to Dion Jones

32:25

for a pick six and a game

32:28

30 touch 30 interceptions on a year.

32:30

I don't know. Yeah, you're right. Camp's

32:32

not like that. Camp is more like

32:35

play started. We're moving through the play.

32:37

Okay, I see something. It's coming open

32:39

open. It's coming open. It's going to

32:42

take me. It's going to take a

32:44

second for it to be open. What

32:46

can I do in the meantime to

32:49

give that person to get open? And

32:51

that's where I get worried for him.

32:53

But I just think he's a more

32:56

explosive talent than Shador, which is why

32:58

I have him a little bit higher.

33:00

Because, you know, Shador is funny because,

33:02

like, he kind of, like, physically moves

33:05

like De Ande, like, their strides kind

33:07

of similar, but they aren't moving at

33:09

the same speed, which is why I'm

33:12

like, you know, I don't, I worry

33:14

about the upside there, but still, he's

33:16

a, he's a capable quarterback in his

33:19

own right, too. having a genosmith night

33:21

if he shows up on night one.

33:23

And it goes all the way through.

33:26

It would not, it would not shock

33:28

me. And the reason, it is the

33:30

reason that I say that. Teams are

33:32

not really going for the, like, there's

33:35

just something about them guys. They're looking

33:37

for big dudes with tools, right? Some

33:39

exceptional or perhaps they like even more.

33:42

Collection of exceptional talents that you possess.

33:44

And I don't think any of us

33:46

can point to your door and say

33:49

what is the exceptional tally he possessed.

33:51

What you can say is he's got

33:53

the willingness to stand in there and

33:56

wait for the play to develop and

33:58

he'll, you know, be the tough guy

34:00

and make that throw, which by the

34:03

way, does it sound terribly unlike your

34:05

questions about what Cam Ward does the

34:07

difference being Cam Ward can run to

34:09

safety if it comes down to it?

34:12

Like, you know, sacks are a quarterback

34:14

stat. I firmly believe that I think

34:16

the evidence bears that out. And so

34:19

why Colorado had line, especially there, the

34:21

line was terrible. It wasn't so much

34:23

the same issue. last year, but a

34:26

lot of those sack totals still come

34:28

down to the quarterback. And so what

34:30

team is going to say to themselves,

34:33

this is the future, because I mean,

34:35

look, you can do what the Cardinals

34:37

did that year, where you take Josh

34:39

Rosen and then immediately bail and go

34:42

to Kala Murray the next year, but

34:44

that's not really how things typically work

34:46

for teams. Like if you make that

34:49

decision, taking this quarterback. is probably going

34:51

to take you out of taking whoever

34:53

the quarterback might be next year just

34:56

throw archmanning's name out there because it's

34:58

going to come up though I don't

35:00

think we I don't think any of

35:03

us could possibly say we know what

35:05

that's going to turn out at least

35:07

not right now so I would not

35:10

be surprised if it's a long day

35:12

for like would you want to take

35:14

him with a top 10 pick like

35:16

I've seen like Kuiper has the jets

35:19

taking him right now at number seven

35:21

I think that would be terrible for

35:23

everybody for everybody for everybody And to

35:26

me, like, that's, that's crazy. Like, that's

35:28

crazy. That's, that's, and that crinistic. That,

35:30

uh, would be a serious deviation from

35:33

the history of that franchise. Yes, yes.

35:35

Because last time they had one, they

35:37

put EY back in the game, you

35:40

know? Fire to coach the next day.

35:42

The Geno, the Geno Giant saga is

35:44

an underrated hilarious little. No, Geno had

35:47

the worst luck, man, that boy broke

35:49

his face and messed it up for

35:51

him then, and then he gets to

35:53

the Giants, or no, no, and then

35:56

the next year he stays with the

35:58

Jets, he gets out there. tears his

36:00

ACL. Yep. And I can't remember

36:03

if it was the year after that

36:05

or the year after that, that he

36:07

got to play the one game. Yeah,

36:09

well, because Ben Makadou, he was

36:12

up looking at Eli. He's like,

36:14

what is this? He's like, what,

36:16

yo, what are we doing here?

36:18

Like, he can't play anymore. Well,

36:20

this gotta end. So he puts

36:22

Gino in and, yeah, looking, looking,

36:24

looking back, we made a lot

36:27

of fun of fun of Ben

36:29

Makadou. Maybe he was right

36:31

about geno Smith. He was certainly

36:33

right about it being the end

36:36

free live many at that point.

36:38

Yes. That's what he was certainly

36:40

right about. They gave Eli back

36:42

to job for like two more

36:44

years. They get Eli. Eli got

36:47

to keep that job job long

36:49

enough to where it was very

36:51

similar to the uh, James thing

36:53

to stick around long enough to

36:55

be. So I. The first year I covered,

36:57

the first day I moved to New York

37:00

was Eli's last year. And I was

37:02

doing split time covering Giants and

37:04

Jets. Bro. First of all, I was

37:06

sitting up in the press box and

37:09

MetLife every Sunday. I was like, yo,

37:11

did I make a mistake? Like, is

37:13

this really what I want to do

37:15

with my life? Like, watch these crappy

37:17

Jets games and Giants games. But dude,

37:19

like, they would, like, they didn't get

37:22

anything done. And I'm sitting there like, you

37:24

know, like, how long are we going to see

37:26

here and have to watch you like play? But,

37:28

you know, when you got the ear of the

37:30

owner and John Mara, like, that's, you

37:32

know, for all the NFL owners, he's

37:34

pretty sentimental about some of this stuff.

37:37

You know, like, you go back to

37:39

even Hard Knox last year, he's like,

37:41

I like watching the Sacon Berkeley as

37:43

a Giants, because I like watching him

37:46

in my Jersey, and they fumbledbled in

37:48

my Jersey, and they fumbledbled it. I

37:50

think that's why those guys still have

37:52

jobs right now, but the leash that

37:54

Eli got at the end, it just

37:57

had to end. But day, that one

37:59

second in June, you know, you're right.

38:01

That's probably why they would never picture

38:03

door number three overall. Because they don't

38:05

do that over there. They just don't

38:07

do that. And by the way, Eli

38:09

Manning, who kept his job until they

38:12

gave it to Daniel Jones. Yeah, career,

38:14

his teams with him starting, career record,

38:16

117 and 117. Hero. That's Eli. That's

38:18

Eli. That's Eli right there for you.

38:20

I was so glad they did not

38:23

put him in the Hall of Fame

38:25

on this first. I know it's going

38:27

to happen. It is preposterous. I don't

38:29

care how many Super Bowl MVPs he

38:31

has. It is ridiculous, the idea that

38:34

he is going to go into the

38:36

Hall of Fact. Yeah. And it's funny,

38:38

because I went to college with a

38:40

bunch of guys from New Jersey on

38:42

the football team. And they would be

38:45

like, like, one of the first things

38:47

they would ask you, like, yeah, you

38:49

think Elleiman is a Hall of Famer?

38:51

I'd be like, like, yeah. Really mad

38:53

at the idea that people didn't think

38:56

Eli Manning wasn't like one of the

38:58

best quarterbacks. They had ever seen like

39:00

dude What are you watching that that

39:02

shows it? It's two playoff runs to

39:04

what is Joe Fackwell Hall of Famer?

39:06

Is that what we're doing here? Is

39:09

this damn the same thing? Do you

39:11

know how many playoff games the Giants

39:13

won outside of those Super Bowl seasons?

39:15

I think it's all about here First,

39:17

yeah. And I was thinking, do you

39:20

think he'll be first ballot? I'm like,

39:22

oh, wow, that's what we're doing, huh?

39:24

The first, yeah. Oh, yeah, he's in,

39:26

he's in. I mean, he's going to

39:28

get in. But I tell you, it

39:31

could be a long time. But I

39:33

tell you, it could be a long

39:35

time. Yeah. Getting in, I, but I

39:37

tell you, it could be a long

39:39

time. Yeah, it could, it could, it

39:42

could, it could, it could, it could,

39:44

it could, it could, it could, it

39:46

could, it could, it could, it could,

39:48

it could, it could be a, it

39:50

could, it could, it could, it could,

39:53

it could, it could, it could, it

39:55

could, it could, it could, it could,

39:57

it could, it could, it could, it

39:59

could, it could, it could, it could,

40:01

it could, it could, it could, it

40:04

could, it could, it Right. Come on,

40:06

we can't but you like a minute

40:08

before. home. No, no, no, I don't,

40:10

no, no, we can't, we can't. So

40:12

I'm gonna be starting on how Jason

40:14

Whitney, no Hall of Fame either. But,

40:17

but, but I should do her. The

40:19

report came out that you do, it

40:21

was not going to throw at the

40:23

combine. It's can't war throwing. It sounds

40:25

like he is. He's, he's been gearing

40:28

through combine, like, the combine exercise workout

40:30

drills. Yeah. I'm on his own, so

40:32

he is at least prepared to throw.

40:34

I think I think he will. I

40:36

think he should. I think Shadore should

40:39

too. Because I don't really see how

40:41

it could hurt you that much. Maybe

40:43

if you're on his 40. Oh no,

40:45

no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

40:47

no, no. If Cam Ward does not

40:50

throw, then Shadore should go ahead and

40:52

throw. Otherwise, the Chrysler 300 is pulling

40:54

up. And here comes the fathom. Like

40:56

I don't think it serves him. They're

40:58

going to have him throw. Look, I

41:01

get the idea that for this draft

41:03

prep stuff, for all of this is

41:05

really SAT prep, right? Like you are

41:07

studying for the test that doesn't necessarily

41:09

have so much to do with anything

41:12

else. But the idea that they got

41:14

all those NFL receivers at Colorado who

41:16

know him and he can throw to

41:18

them, there's nothing to gain, really. from

41:20

throwing at the combat, especially not if

41:22

it points out the fact that the

41:25

other dude throw harder than you do.

41:27

Yeah. Well, see, this is where I

41:29

feel myself getting old sometimes. Where I'm

41:31

like, yo, why don't you want to

41:33

come out here? I remember when Camp

41:36

Noon, well, that's Camp Noon, you know.

41:38

If I was Camp Noon, I would

41:40

throw out the combat too, because why

41:42

not? Freakin. But I do not have

41:44

done everything at the combat. I'd have

41:47

been doing pull-upsps. Pullups. Yeah. But, you

41:49

know, come out here, compete, man. Why

41:51

not? Oh, yeah, you are going old

41:53

man here. Even when you're knowing what

41:55

the game is. You're going old man

41:58

here. I'm going old man here. Yeah.

42:00

back to Shidor for a second, what

42:02

I think is interesting about him is

42:04

there's a consensus in the sense

42:06

that it seems like everyone says QB2

42:08

behind Kim Ward. Where it gets tricky

42:11

after that is like where people are

42:13

actually ranking him in relation to

42:15

all the other players on the

42:17

board, right? Because I've seen Shidor ranked,

42:19

I've seen Shidor ranked top 10, I've seen

42:22

him ranked in the 30s, the other day

42:24

on a like a CBS CBS big board,

42:26

I saw him ranked 24th. There's

42:28

no consensus really on where

42:31

he slots in in relation

42:33

to the other non-quarterback

42:36

talent in the draft, which makes

42:38

me think, because I was thinking

42:40

this yes, I was like, ooh,

42:43

no consensus. That means

42:45

could be sitting in that dream

42:47

room for a little bit. This

42:50

is for the producers of the

42:52

draft. This is incredible.

42:54

Right? Like that piece of drama is going into this and

42:56

look, because the drafts, the TV show, don't give me,

42:58

people who know me, know how I feel about the

43:00

whole complex around the draft and how we build it

43:03

and everything else. But the bottom line is, what's going

43:05

to start happening is these mock drafts are going to

43:07

start coming out and Shidoor is going to start slipping

43:09

in them. I don't think they're going to slip them

43:11

out of the first round because now they be doing

43:13

it. They be doing a Jedi my trick with the

43:15

Jedi my trick with the my trick with the mic

43:17

trick with the Mike draft where they imagine-trick with the

43:19

imagine-trick with a-trick with a-trick-trick-trick with a-trick-trick-trick-trick-trick with a-trick-trick-trick-trick with

43:21

a-trick-trick-trick-trick-trick-trick-trick-trick-trick-trick- And so they'll have somebody come up at the

43:23

back end of the first round and he keeps your

43:25

door in that first round but it's going

43:27

to be where does shadoor sanders go and

43:29

they gonna have that camera in his face

43:32

because a Johnny Manzell had that happen to

43:34

him having an air Rogers but that wasn't

43:36

contrived we were really like damn anybody gonna

43:38

take him for real oh okay that's going

43:40

to happen here I mean I firmly believe

43:43

that's what it's going to be. And then

43:45

let's look at it like teams that need

43:47

quarterbacks that need quarterbacks. that any of

43:49

the top three teams who are the

43:52

Titans, the Browns, and the Giants, all

43:54

of whom need a quarterback. And we

43:56

are not just sliding quarterbacks in

43:58

for two of them. not say good

44:00

things about these two guys. Yeah, no,

44:02

that's true. I mean, because it's not

44:04

like, you know, you put can warden

44:06

last year's draft. He's probably like a

44:08

fringe top 10 guy, you know, but

44:10

he's benefiting off of the fact that

44:12

there's, there's really no one else this

44:14

year. You know, like, if you're the

44:17

Titans, I think you probably try to

44:19

trade down first, but you could stomach

44:21

it. You're like, I gotta have that.

44:23

on my football team. Because like, dude,

44:25

I look at some of these camp

44:27

war throws, like when he's when he's

44:29

creating and he's rifling something like in

44:31

the back corner of the end zone,

44:33

like falling away, I'm like, okay, the

44:35

arm talent, I get it, I get

44:37

it, I get it. But what Shidoor,

44:39

it just seems like it has to

44:41

be a little manicured, you know, it's

44:43

got to be, it's got to be

44:45

put up in front of him, and

44:47

then, when did you. I was comparing

44:49

Shidore to like. Andy Dalton kind of.

44:51

And someone's like, Andy Dalton was like,

44:53

Andy Dalton had a good run, man.

44:55

So that's the thing, right? A phrase

44:57

that we need to be more careful

44:59

with how we use is the phrase

45:01

franchise quarterback, because we make any quarterback

45:03

who plays for a franchise, a franchise

45:05

quarterback. And to me, there is a

45:07

difference between a franchise quarterback and a

45:09

starting quarterback. Right. Andy Dalton was a

45:11

starting quarterback. who never really had the

45:13

talent to be a franchise quarterback. But

45:15

they drafted him in the second round.

45:17

He started right away. And when you

45:19

draft somebody in the second round, what

45:21

you expect to get is a starter.

45:23

In the first round, you're kind of

45:25

hoping for a pro bowler. No matter

45:27

what the position is. But in the

45:29

second round, you're drafting the starter. Like

45:31

I remember when Colin Capernig took the

45:33

job for Alex Smith. I was like,

45:35

oh damn, that's my fault. I should

45:37

have seen this. I should have seen

45:39

this. I should have seen this. I

45:41

should have seen this. I should have

45:43

seen. I should have seen this. I

45:45

should have seen. I should have seen.

45:47

I should have seen. I should have

45:49

seen. I should have seen. I should

45:51

have seen. I should have seen. I

45:53

should have seen. I should have seen.

45:55

I should have seen. I should have

45:57

seen. I should have seen. I should

45:59

have seen. I should have seen. I

46:01

should have seen. I should have seen.

46:03

I should Shoulders Sanders might be a

46:05

starter, right? And there's a list of

46:07

guys. Tyra Taylor, for example, is a

46:09

starting quarter. back. We can go up

46:11

and down through the link, but like,

46:13

oh, this is a starting quarterback. The

46:15

question to ask Brock Purdy might be

46:17

a starting quarterback, being miscast as a

46:19

franchise one. And by the way, nothing

46:21

would be funnier than if Kyle Shadahan

46:23

took you to her Sanders at 11

46:25

so that they would not have to

46:27

pay Brock Purdy. Can we make that

46:29

happen? Can we talk that up? I

46:31

would be down for that just for

46:33

the chaos. Yes. I mean just for

46:35

the content. Because you know they don't

46:37

want to pay him. Look if the

46:39

Rams don't want to pay Stafford? There's

46:41

got to be some apprehension about it.

46:43

I also think it's funny that Kyle

46:45

Shanahan is not here at the combine.

46:47

Really? No, he didn't. He didn't come.

46:49

I don't know if that's a, you

46:51

know, I don't want to take questions

46:53

about about property property, property. I just

46:55

don't care about the combine anymore. Interestingly,

46:57

not here, not here, not here. Yeah.

46:59

By the way, you are in Indianapolis.

47:01

Have you seen, you know, I was

47:03

high on Anthony Brittison coming out on

47:05

the potential, if nothing else, while fully

47:07

understanding the wide variance of outcome, right?

47:10

The cults now say that they're going

47:12

to have an open quarterback competition with

47:14

him. And look, I get it, year

47:16

three is a big deal, but they

47:18

have messed this up. Because, I mean,

47:20

the last year, last year when they

47:22

were doing the, we're gonna put in

47:24

Joe Flacko, it's like, do for what?

47:26

What do you need to see Joe

47:28

Flacko for? Like, were you under the,

47:30

were they under the impression that they

47:32

had like a Super Bowl roster or

47:34

something? Well, the thing with Flacko is,

47:36

I don't think you and I talked

47:38

about this, that Cleveland run felt good,

47:40

but he wasn't actually good. No, he

47:42

wasn't good. He was just better than

47:44

the worst quarterback you've ever seen. you

47:46

know that's that's all it was that's

47:48

all it was it was you know

47:50

we were we were we were playing

47:52

like below average football and that was

47:54

a massive improvement from where they were

47:56

with the Sean Watson at the time

47:58

so you know it's funny because Like I'm

48:00

pretty sure Joe has even talked about

48:02

like comeback prayer the year like what

48:05

I come back. Yeah, I think he

48:07

would. No. Yeah, he didn't. He won

48:09

it over DeMar Hamlin. Oh, yeah, that's

48:11

about to say over the the the

48:14

the. I mean I didn't think you

48:16

need to pass out the ballots. I

48:18

thought we was going to rename the

48:21

award after Hill. Me too. And then

48:23

it would be too dramatic. Like you

48:25

can't come back from ACL Terry, be

48:27

the winner of the DeBar Haley, come

48:30

back players of your award. Because

48:32

he came back from all of

48:34

you. No one has ever come

48:36

back from farther away. did I

48:39

remember I was watching that game and

48:41

I had two screens on right I

48:43

was playing some video games on one

48:45

screen I had the game on the other

48:47

one and I kind of zoned out for

48:49

a little bit and I looked up

48:51

and I see Josh Allen like crying

48:53

on TV so I rewind it and I

48:55

saw the play I was like whoa I was

48:57

like he just died like I called

48:59

Dominic and was like yo did we

49:02

watch somebody die and then what made

49:04

it worse for me was driving slow

49:06

with no lights I was like Yeah,

49:08

that's a little eerie. Like, why

49:10

is y'all just doing it for

49:13

show? Like, please understand

49:15

this man. You could pick somebody

49:17

up from the stadium. You got

49:19

to turn the lights all under

49:22

the ambulance. Like, you know, no,

49:24

no. Make me feel like there's

49:26

a chance. It never dawned on

49:29

me to hear live. Right, right. So

49:31

then, yeah, then, then. like trying to

49:33

cancel the game and stuff like that and then

49:35

I did think like there were some weird stuff

49:37

like some Bangles family that got upset about

49:40

like how the NFL was gonna schedule it because

49:42

we were up at the time I was like

49:44

bro you just have to imagine that game never

49:46

got played I got let it right just just

49:48

just just just let it right look nothing's gonna

49:50

be perfect in the situation we saw we just

49:53

thought we saw someone die we saw we saw

49:55

we saw someone we saw someone we saw someone

49:57

we saw someone's talking about playoffs even make the

49:59

fair point which was they got to figure

50:01

out something, but how could you even

50:03

be thinking about that at a time

50:06

like this? But everybody hates Skip. And

50:08

so they came straight for the deck.

50:10

But I want to run through these

50:12

teams right fast. And I would make

50:14

this argument. I'm going to run through

50:16

teams that need a quarterback for the

50:19

future. So some of these teams may

50:21

have a quarterback, but I would say

50:23

need one for the future. The Titans,

50:25

the Browns, the Giants, and I'm going

50:27

in the order of the draft. Yes. The

50:29

Saints? For sure. One could

50:31

argue the 49ers, but neither

50:33

here nor there. Kind of sort

50:36

of the cults, but I don't

50:38

think you can. No. The Seahawks?

50:40

Maybe. They don't think their quarterback.

50:43

They clearly don't think

50:45

their quarterback of the

50:47

president is their quarterback of

50:50

the future. That's all I'm

50:52

saying. I don't think Tampa Bay has

50:54

a quarterback of the

50:56

future. present and maybe a little

50:58

more, but I wouldn't say they had a

51:01

quarterback of the future. The Steelers, the

51:03

Vikings, well no, they got McCarthy. They

51:05

think they have the quarterback of the future.

51:07

The Rams, I don't even know if they

51:10

have a quarterback. Quietly, my lions,

51:12

but that's a different discussion for

51:14

a different day. Oh, I'll be here

51:16

for that one. Because I was

51:18

saying that, well, I would have

51:20

been wrong as hell. But I

51:23

was saying back in the, the

51:25

draft, they had two first run

51:27

picks. I was like, man, go

51:29

train up for like Anthony Richardson

51:32

or something like that. Yeah, I

51:34

mean, they got a, they got a

51:36

quarterback of the present, right?

51:38

They have a pretty high

51:41

end quarterback of the president.

51:43

Anyway, till 30. Hey, wait till 35.

51:45

Ain't nobody worth a damn getting it. Unless

51:48

it's like Lamar Jackson that there's a

51:50

clear market inefficiency that has taken place.

51:52

You should probably wait. Like, this jail,

51:54

do we treat jailer hurts the way

51:56

we ultimately came around to treating him

51:58

if he was a. the number 12

52:00

picking the draft or the number 20

52:02

picking the draft versus being like the

52:04

35th. Yeah, I don't know. I don't

52:07

think it matters too much for him.

52:09

You don't think it matters having the

52:11

tag of the first rounder? Yeah, I

52:13

mean, well, I mean, he got to

52:15

the Super Bowl so fast, you know,

52:17

so maybe that's a problem. But I

52:19

guess I'm saying it was going to

52:21

be quieter around him. I guess is

52:23

what I'm saying. Well, because I also

52:25

think there's like a mystique for these

52:27

NFL evaluators, like, oh, come on, these

52:29

guys, they couldn't be that wrong. Like,

52:31

they wouldn't let Dak Press got slip

52:33

to the fourth round. He can't be

52:35

all that good. They wouldn't let Jelm

52:38

Hurt slip to the second round. He

52:40

can't be all that good. They wouldn't

52:42

let Jelm Hurt slip to the second

52:44

round. He can't be all that good.

52:46

So you defer to the people who

52:48

are uncharged, I think makes sense, but

52:50

I think makes sense, but you know,

52:52

but you know, I think even like

52:54

going back to Andy Dalton as like

52:56

a comparison, hey man, you give Andy

52:58

Dalton, AJ Green and Andrew Whitworth and

53:00

Mohammed Sanu and you can go home

53:02

with some damn football games, you know,

53:04

it's still, it's still a team sport.

53:06

It's not the worst place to be.

53:09

Give Jaylon Hertz Devante Smith, AJ Brown,

53:11

Saquam Bartholle, and the biggest offensive line

53:13

in the history of mankind. You can

53:15

win a Super Bowl Super Bowl. Howie,

53:17

Howie, Howie, he's got a figure. Let

53:19

us never forget that they demoted Howie

53:21

for Chip Kelly. Yes. And Howie just

53:23

laid low. Howie, like, I'll be back.

53:25

That's cool, it's cool. Howie's in the

53:27

cut, just lurking. Waiting for his opportunity.

53:29

And he got it back. And it's

53:31

such an underrated part of this story

53:33

is that with Chip for that little

53:35

run that they were happy with Chip

53:37

Kelly, they took Howie's power. Howie's power.

53:40

In many cases, the guy, how he

53:42

just laid low. And it only took

53:44

like a year and it only took

53:46

like a year and it only took

53:48

like a year and it. and he

53:50

got it all back and then it

53:52

didn't take long and they won a

53:54

Super Bowl. Can I turn this to

53:56

something totally not football related for a

53:58

second? So after the Super Bowl, I

54:00

did nothing for two weeks, except watch

54:02

the Wire for the first time. So

54:04

I've watched the first three seasons of

54:06

the Wire, and now I understand all

54:08

your Stringer Bell Rants. Like to a

54:11

T, I understand all of them, because

54:13

I was just like, yo, I was

54:15

like, fuck this guy. Like, like, because

54:17

there are people like, oh, you know,

54:19

he's trying to do, he's trying to

54:21

like make their business more legit. Like,

54:23

bro, he killed his cousin in jail.

54:25

Like, what are you talking about? He's,

54:27

man's cousin, right, or man's nephew. That's

54:29

right. I was like, what are we

54:31

talking about here? This man scum. He's

54:33

a scum bad. It warms my heart

54:35

to hear you say this. And I

54:37

believe that I have had a significant

54:39

role. and changing the way that America

54:42

feels about that snake motherfucker. And the

54:44

reason that I say that is when

54:46

people used to talk about the wire,

54:48

Stranger, it was overwhelmingly positive about him.

54:50

Oh yeah, he was a businessman. He

54:52

wasn't really trying to meet, it was

54:54

still trying to sell dope. He was

54:56

just trying to sell dope, but he

54:58

still was trying to sell dope, but

55:00

I don't hear that in the streets

55:02

no more. I think people have finally

55:04

come around to what the real is,

55:06

and that scaly. Like, you see it.

55:08

Yes, that's how I felt. I was

55:10

like, I hate him like he's real.

55:13

Like, he's such a loser. And even,

55:15

even, like, in season three, when he's

55:17

getting to, like, dealing with the politicians

55:19

and stuff like that, he's trying to

55:21

act like he's, you know, this dignified

55:23

business man, he was trying to put

55:25

a hit out on the state senator

55:27

for taking his money and running with

55:29

it. And he was just like, He

55:31

wanted to write down every bad decision

55:33

that Stringer Bell made. And he realized

55:35

that he was writing down every decision.

55:37

that he could not find like the

55:39

long list of terrible stringer-bell decisions. And

55:41

somehow, like, and it's, I read in

55:44

an oral history of the Jonathan Abrams

55:46

book, and it's very clear that the

55:48

writers of the show see stringer as

55:50

like the tragic, like, hero of this,

55:52

that what he could have been, if

55:54

not for the circumstances that were thrust

55:56

upon him, and all I see is

55:58

a sucker. And all I see is

56:00

a sucker. There was a time where,

56:02

you know, when my buddy Dominic made

56:04

that joke about Jaylon Hurts and the

56:06

pretty thing or whatever and everybody got

56:08

all mad. There was a time where

56:10

people used to say that stuff about

56:12

me with regard to string a bell

56:15

that they just thought I was hating

56:17

because the ladies liked him and then

56:19

they just came up and realized, naw

56:21

man, he a suck. He's a snake.

56:23

And I like the more I read

56:25

about like how people viewed him like

56:27

people viewed him as like someone who

56:29

was like trying to do the right

56:31

things like bro you're you're you put

56:33

a hit out on a sick on

56:35

like a 16 year old Wallace Michael

56:37

B. Dorn's character. What are you guys

56:39

talking about? He's a bitch and he's

56:41

dead. There we go Charles McDonald's saying

56:43

what needs to be said out here

56:46

in these streets Check him out a

56:48

Yahoo Sports where he also works with

56:50

Charles Robinson who is a different person.

56:52

Yes, my brother. I appreciate it And

56:54

I got to do this because last

56:56

time they got mad at me in

56:58

Nate Tice. He goes football 301 together.

57:00

We're actually about to record an episode

57:02

in a few minutes. So I'll tell

57:04

me you said what's up. But last

57:06

time I came on here and I

57:08

didn't promote it. So I got to

57:10

get that out now They don't even

57:12

promote it on here neither, so don't

57:14

even let them talk to you like

57:17

that. He'd be like, yeah, they type

57:19

show. Not from me, not from me.

57:21

Not from me. All from the suits.

57:23

Okay, okay. You know, they've been a

57:25

little greedy, but it's cool, man. I

57:27

appreciate you. Yeah, I appreciate it, man.

57:29

All right, ladies and gentlemen, thanks so

57:31

much for joining us here. on

57:33

the right time. We

57:35

do this three

57:37

times a week. week.

57:39

voicemail the voicemail three, five,

57:41

nine, six, seven,

57:43

seven, six, seven. Kind

57:46

of like I

57:48

hate seven, What's a

57:50

movie, a television character

57:52

that you hate

57:54

like a bell. What's two,

57:56

three, five, nine, six,

57:58

seven, seven, six,

58:00

seven. Remember, follow the

58:02

right they real? Three, two, three,

58:04

rate us, review

58:06

us, give us five

58:08

stars. You only

58:10

give us four stars.

58:12

I'm inclined to

58:14

believe you are a

58:17

hater and we'll

58:19

talk to you guys

58:21

in a couple

58:23

of days. right time. it

58:25

easy. Take it easy.