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1:40

Sean, I can hear myself back in

1:42

the headphones. It

1:44

is the most wonderful

1:46

time of the year. It's

1:48

also the most terrible time of the year because while

1:50

most of this time that we was late getting

1:52

the crack and it was cause of technical difficulties, then

1:54

there was the part after that where I kept

1:56

sneezing all the goddamn time cause of allergies. That

1:59

is not the wonderful time of the year.

2:01

However, it is the NBA playoffs

2:03

and that is the most wonderful

2:05

time of the year, which is

2:07

a big part of why it

2:10

is that I am so

2:12

sleepy. Trying to figure

2:14

out how to budget like. Energy

2:16

expended to and all that

2:18

is a little bit difficult yesterday

2:20

was the worst kind of

2:23

situation yesterday being Sunday where it

2:25

was three Cheeks games all

2:27

up in the afternoon and then

2:29

at night we get the game We actually want

2:31

to see but man. I ain't really got it

2:33

in me to be making it like it's my

2:35

fault I had room to take a

2:37

nap and I did not take a

2:40

nap. It's my fault. Oh shout out

2:42

to Obvious solution guy in the

2:44

chat the guy's like Zertek my boy.

2:46

You don't even know how to

2:48

spell the shit Donovan. Yeah, thanks Thanks.

2:50

Thanks for your brilliant idea. My

2:52

allergies are messing with me. Have you

2:54

considered medicine? Oh shit Wow, well what

2:56

I ever do without you

2:58

Anyway, we got the rockets

3:00

and the uh, and the

3:02

rockets I mean, see what I'm saying.

3:04

I'm really sleepy the rockets in the

3:06

Warriors. How about that one? That

3:08

will be the game. Shout out to everybody who

3:10

has been pretending that they have watched the Rockets

3:12

play this year and you know goddamn well that

3:14

you have not. I have not been pretending that

3:16

I watched the Rockets play this year. I actually

3:18

have seen the Rockets play this year. I saw

3:20

them play a game in Madison Square Garden.

3:22

Sean, the sound is back right. I saw

3:25

them play a game in Madison Square Garden.

3:27

I don't watch that boy. I'm in. Do

3:29

a couple things. However, uh, what's my guy

3:31

named shingoon man? He could have robbed me

3:33

on 125th street and I would not have

3:35

been able to get the police very, very

3:37

much help up until that game last night.

3:39

Let me tell you what I find interesting

3:41

about that game. The Rockets are

3:44

out here getting it

3:46

done largely on like tough

3:48

guy stuff, right? They play

3:50

really hard. They go muscle you.

3:52

They got dudes like Dylan Brooks. They

3:54

got irritants. They are as far

3:56

as I am concerned, a little bit

3:58

too dependent. on the reliability

4:01

of Jalen Green,

4:03

who I noticed might sound unfair.

4:05

He just strikes me as being unreliable in

4:07

every walk of his life. I

4:10

don't have a great deal of evidence

4:12

to indicate this, but I look at him

4:14

and you know what he looks like?

4:16

He looked like he about to be 15,

4:18

but it's like, if it's

4:20

15. Again, I

4:23

don't know if I'm being entirely fair. But

4:25

anyway, the reason I

4:27

bring them up is For

4:29

them to win, it feels like they're

4:31

gonna have to get it done

4:33

with a certain like old, manish, um,

4:37

force of will sort of way in order

4:39

to win that. Even Shangoon, who people call

4:41

baby Yolkage. I don't think they're games of

4:43

that similar. I just don't think Shangoon is

4:45

especially athletic and they both from, you know, I

4:47

don't even know. Shaw, Shangoon is from Turkey,

4:49

but that don't mean he from Europe. You

4:52

know what I mean? Yeah, correct, correct. I

4:54

don't even know if he wanted him. No, no,

4:56

I think he's he's lived in Houston long enough

4:58

that he's actually one of them. You know, like that's

5:00

got to say, I would I need to hear

5:03

his voice because I'm a Rockets fan. So if you

5:05

hear him in these like Instagram videos and stuff,

5:07

I was like, oh, he's been hanging out with Jalen

5:09

Green a little too long, you know. OK, OK,

5:11

OK. No, no, no, not long enough. Well, maybe Jalen

5:13

Green, he might be hanging out with a little

5:15

bit too long. But like Fred and them boys, maybe

5:17

he can hang out with them like we're going

5:19

to get to the place where we can ask him

5:21

who got the best verse on Still Tipping. Okay,

5:24

I see that. Sean, I don't know if we

5:26

really talked about that this much on this

5:28

show, but one of my single favorite things about

5:30

the NBA is the idea of the cultural

5:32

exchange. I love nothing more

5:34

than these guys that learn to speak

5:36

English. in the NBA. Like, I didn't

5:38

watch the whole thing, but one of

5:40

those podcasts had Marcus Salong. Oh, I

5:43

think it was like the Grizzlies dudes.

5:45

And you have to remember that when

5:47

Powell went to Memphis, they brought Mark

5:49

over there. So Mark went from Spain

5:51

to Memphis. And Mark

5:53

sounds more Memphis than anything.

5:55

Like his accent is

5:57

just more Memphis than Spanish

5:59

or broken English. He's like a

6:01

fully Memphis dude. Yes,

6:03

and that is a conceptually wild thing.

6:05

Like they say that boy came from

6:07

Spain and they had him in the

6:09

Frasier. And you may be

6:11

asking yourself, what's the Frasier? It's something

6:13

they call the the, right?

6:16

Like, like whatever it is, they call

6:18

it the, the, the, then it might

6:20

be a thing about it. Anyway,

6:22

the point that I was going to make is

6:24

the Rockets need to get by

6:26

with old man game, except the

6:28

Warriors have all of the

6:31

old man wisdom, right? They've

6:33

got Steph Curry to pull it out when

6:35

it matters. They got Jimmy Butler to pull it

6:37

out when it matters. They got Draymond Green

6:39

to do Draymond Green kind of stuff, right? I

6:41

cannot think of a situation with

6:43

young guys who are being expected to

6:45

play in a lot of ways

6:47

an old man game, except they are

6:49

playing the most battle tested old

6:52

dudes that this postseason has to offer.

6:54

I need to be honest with you though. I'm

6:56

in a trick bag with this series. I

6:59

am not a Rockets fan. And so

7:01

I can explain this to you guys. I

7:03

grew up in Houston, but we moved

7:05

to Houston when I was seven. By the

7:08

time we got there, I already had

7:10

teams. So it was not time for me

7:12

to switch up teams. So I do

7:14

not root for the Rockets, but I do

7:16

not root against the hometown, especially

7:19

out of the Astros and the Braves don't play

7:21

in the same league, right? Do

7:23

not root against the hometown. That's not

7:25

what I do But there

7:27

is somebody in my

7:30

hometown that I do root

7:32

against fervently and you

7:34

guys know who that is is

7:36

Joel Anderson and so

7:39

Joel Hates

7:41

the Warriors because he lived in the

7:43

bay for a long time and

7:45

they were playing against the Rockets perfectly

7:47

reasonable Joel hates Warriors

7:49

fans even more

7:51

reasonable And as many of

7:54

you know, for reasons that I

7:56

don't quite understand and don't really make

7:58

a lot of sense, Joel really,

8:00

really, really hates Jimmy

8:02

Butler. He really, really

8:04

does. I love

8:07

Joel being wrong about Jimmy Butler at

8:09

every turn. Of course, the problem is the

8:11

way Joel's game is, until Jimmy went to

8:13

championship, he's always right. Nothing matters. Joel,

8:16

oh, last laugh. Well, fuck it, right? Like, that's just

8:18

kind of how he gets down anyway. I

8:20

want Jimmy Butler to rub Joel's

8:22

face here. I'm not rooting

8:24

against the hometown. I'm

8:27

rooting against Joel D.

8:29

Anderson. And the only reason I'm not

8:31

saying his middle name is because

8:33

I don't know if he wants you

8:35

to know what his middle name is.

8:38

That's the only thing that's sparing

8:40

us under these circumstances right now. Somebody

8:42

in the chat talking about Joel catching strays. This

8:45

ain't no straight. What are you

8:47

talking about? I'm shooting dead at

8:49

him. Ain't no straight

8:51

Tell you talking about a straight.

8:53

Oh, I want to be very very clear

8:55

because apparently I'm not being as direct as

8:57

I thought I was being I want Jimmy

8:59

butler to whoop Joel's ass not like a

9:01

literal ass whooping But like in the sense

9:03

that the dream Joel roots for that is what

9:05

I want to happen I want

9:07

a man who idolizes

9:10

Jim Harden to lose

9:12

That's what I want. Is that

9:14

enough for you Leonard? Anyway,

9:17

watch some of that game Uh,

9:20

Sean was a very interesting collision of

9:22

events on Sunday. I didn't really do

9:24

much celebrate neither, but it was a

9:26

four twister on Sunday. Yeah, it

9:28

was, uh, he has risen and we have also

9:31

risen one of those days. Yes. It all,

9:33

it came together. Did I ever send you my

9:35

four twister playlist? No, I gotta hear this.

9:37

I gotta hear this. Oh, I think you'll, you'll

9:39

enjoy the four twister playlist. The great deal.

9:41

I sent it to you. You can just look

9:43

at it and you'll be like, Oh, okay.

9:45

I see what he's talking about here. But them

9:48

other games are so wack. I saw on

9:50

that schedule, Sean, they were all like double digit

9:52

favorite games. I scheduled a photography lesson for

9:54

Sunday afternoon. I was like, I ain't

9:56

watching that shit. What are you crazy? I'm not watching

9:58

these games. I mean, I was like,

10:00

you know what? I can, I can map

10:02

my whole day around making sure I'm on

10:04

the couch at 630 for Rockets Warriors. And

10:06

luckily it worked out where every other game

10:08

a blowout and even Rockets Warriors, I was

10:10

able to really turn it off at a

10:12

certain point because I knew this game was

10:14

over. We knew they were going

10:16

to be blowouts before the game even started.

10:18

What I'm asking for under these circumstances, if

10:21

we only got one game to watch, could

10:23

you not put that at late night? Right.

10:25

If we only got one game to watch,

10:27

could you please put that at 3 .30?

10:29

Or maybe the six in the six

10:31

o 'clock game, right? That window right there,

10:33

I feel like would be perfect for everybody.

10:35

Instead, they put in late, man. I

10:38

saw some of the game, right?

10:40

I mean, I saw how it ended. I knew

10:42

how it was going to end, all of

10:44

that. Hey, and Rich reloaded in the chat room.

10:46

Stop saying I'm advocating violence against Joe. We

10:48

don't advocate violence here. I just want them

10:50

to feel bad. It's not the same

10:52

thing. But anyway, the day before, the

10:54

Saturday games, okay, we were cooking with

10:56

gas on the Saturday games. I mean, it

10:59

kind of went like you probably thought

11:01

it would be Milwaukee before Dame Lillard. They

11:03

got their doors blown off. But Sean,

11:05

you see that day, Lillard had a lot

11:07

to say to them boys on that

11:09

other team. I enjoy NBA players. I mean,

11:11

they're not gonna fight. I understand that.

11:13

That's not they fault, right? Y 'all won't

11:15

let them fight. I love how it's

11:17

a classic NBA fight where Dame

11:19

Lillard says, I'm going to put

11:21

you in a diss track. Come

11:23

see me outside after this game.

11:25

That's the state of the NBA

11:27

worded. That is where we are. The

11:29

Pacers. Ah, I realized last year

11:31

when I watched the Pacers in the playoffs that

11:33

I had not watched them play for many years prior

11:35

to that. And I realized when I watched them

11:38

play on Saturday, I had not seen them. It's been

11:40

a long time since I've seen them play a

11:42

game with Tyrese Halliburton. The Pacers did something, though, that

11:44

doesn't happen very often, which is they started off

11:46

bad and turned out good. Like generally, what

11:48

you see from a team after about 20 or 25 games

11:50

is what you're going to see out of that team. You

11:52

know I mean? Right. That's generally going to be

11:54

it. The Pacers, it turned out not to be

11:56

that and to be fair to the Pacers. They

11:58

got to the conference finals last year and they

12:01

played it tough against Boston and they just

12:03

didn't have their best player in the end.

12:05

Like in theory, they got a champion at Siakam. Like

12:07

in theory, they should be able to make some stuff

12:09

happen. On the other hand, bro, they got so many

12:11

players I ain't never really heard of. I don't really

12:13

know how to speak on what they situation going to

12:15

be. I'll be lying. Don't y 'all worry. Give

12:17

me about two weeks. I will be up

12:19

to speed on everybody I'm gonna do my

12:21

little crash course what they was doing in

12:23

November on even really matter No way, you

12:25

know what I'm saying Shawn does that sound

12:27

like a plausible story? Does it I don't

12:29

I think it does I think especially with

12:31

like the stars on the Pacers like Tyrese

12:34

Halliburton has Not been playing well to the

12:36

start the season and now he's heating up

12:38

just in time for you to know Exactly

12:40

who those nem -hards and whatever players are on

12:42

the Pacers that you always mentioned of like

12:44

Who's this guy? You know, now you'll start

12:46

to know. I know him. But

12:49

Siakam to me is the interesting one because

12:51

I thought that Siakam in 2019 showed the potential

12:53

to like really, really be that guy. And

12:55

look, he's been an all NBA cat. So I

12:57

don't want to pretend as though he hasn't

12:59

really got it. But at the same time, are

13:02

they going to go to the conference

13:04

finals again on the back of Tyree's

13:06

Halliburton and Pascal Siakam? I guess is

13:08

my question. I will say Kevin O 'Connor

13:10

tweeted during that Pacers game. He's like, this

13:12

is the version of Pascal Siakam that everyone

13:14

knows and loves, but he's like, this is

13:16

the version that can take them in a

13:18

deep playoff run. So, you know, this

13:20

matchup right now seems favorable to them.

13:23

But when they face the Cavs or the

13:25

Celtics, I think it's a completely different story. You

13:27

know what I love about Pascal Siakam? It

13:30

always looked like he bought the elbow

13:32

somebody. He's got those feelings. be

13:34

terrified of guarding him. Like, it always looked

13:36

like you bought to have to get some

13:39

teeth replaced. Like, that is always on the

13:41

board when you're out there against him. But

13:43

the other games, did you watch Clippers Nuggets?

13:45

Kawhi Leonard looks like Kawhi Leonard. Like, it

13:48

doesn't matter if he's not as strong as

13:50

he was, but he still looks like that

13:52

dude and he's got that six super tight

13:54

handle. You're not taking the rock from

13:56

Kawhi Leonard. I mean, he'll get a shot

13:58

at Will and the whole entire game the

14:00

broadcast kept commenting on his health and

14:02

how healthy he looks in every Clipper fan

14:04

on my timeline was like, stop jinxing

14:06

this. We know he's healthy. Do not ruin

14:08

this for us. We can have a

14:10

really good Kauai Playoff run. Well,

14:12

the other thing with the Clippers, look, James

14:15

Harden, what is tricky

14:17

about James Harden is James

14:19

Harden is not useless in the

14:21

playoffs. James Harden is

14:23

useless in the last

14:26

game of the season. If

14:28

it's not the last game of the

14:30

season, he can still give it to

14:32

you. He looked good in that game.

14:34

Like, look, man, the Clippers got a

14:36

bunch of old ass dudes out there.

14:38

Nick Patum, I want to say, has

14:40

been playing for 17 years. James Harden

14:43

is in his 16th season. Kawhi Leonard

14:45

is in his 14th season. Like... They're

14:47

not doing this to you with youth. Shit. What's

14:49

his name? Zubat's old enough

14:51

that he got traded there

14:54

by Magic Johnson. And he's got

14:56

all this playoff experience still.

14:58

Regardless of what he's done, he's

15:00

got playoff experience. How

15:02

many teams? And this is a legitimately

15:04

fair question at this point. We'll

15:07

talk about the Lakers a little bit later.

15:09

I guess they're the team that you would

15:11

say their 1 -2 was up there with Kawhi

15:13

and James Harden. But how many

15:15

teams that we have in this

15:17

postseason, are we sure that their top

15:19

two are better than the top two that

15:21

the Clippers are going to try it out

15:23

there? Like, we're 100 % positive. I can't

15:25

say that about Boston if they put in

15:27

a needle in Jalen Brown's knee. And

15:29

I mean, Boston won convincingly, but Tatum

15:32

and Brown both had really bad

15:34

games in that game one. Yeah. I'm

15:36

a little unsure of them. But like, is

15:39

this Steph and Jimmy, right? Like, is that

15:41

who we're talking about? Like, this is, if

15:43

they can get going, we'll see. Because on

15:45

the other side, what they gotta deal with

15:47

is the best player on Earth. Earth,

15:49

Sean, the best player on Earth. What are

15:51

they supposed to do with him? I mean,

15:53

that was such an incredible game to watch.

15:55

And I'm really looking at the nuggets, and

15:57

it really just is, oh, you guys have

15:59

the best player on Earth. I mean,

16:01

they should have, they should have lost that

16:03

game and Nikolay Okic kind of took

16:05

over and he's got to carry, you know,

16:07

Russell Westbrook. Who does it make the

16:10

right plays a lot of times? Yo, my

16:12

fault. How did I let this

16:14

go so long before we talk about

16:16

like the last seven minutes of

16:18

game action being the top to bottom

16:20

Russell Westbrook experience and you got

16:23

to understand. Those of you who

16:25

listen to me consistently or watch me

16:27

consistently or whatever you guys know this those

16:29

of you who are new here may

16:31

not know this, okay? I love

16:33

Russell Westbrook Russell Westbrook is 100 %

16:35

one of my favorite basketball players

16:37

of all time and the biggest

16:39

reason that he is one of

16:41

my favorite basketball players of all

16:43

time is I have never rooted

16:45

for the team that he plays

16:47

for I can simply observe from

16:50

a distance and appreciate the fervor

16:52

and passion with which he plays

16:54

and the unreal athleticism. But did

16:56

you see that play? I think

16:58

it was at the end of

17:00

regulation where Tai Lu, who Russell

17:02

Westbrook for a couple of years, ran the

17:04

whole defensive scheme around the idea

17:07

of, don't you worry, Yolk

17:09

is just going to pass the ball

17:11

to the open man and making sure

17:13

that that open man was Russell Westbrook.

17:16

And he got the ball and that shot went up and it

17:18

was like, all right, cool. Over time. Like we

17:20

ain't even, like, you know, that shot where

17:22

Larry burdened the three point contest, throw it up

17:24

and just point his finger and walk away.

17:26

It was a, it was a different sort of

17:28

situation. Like once Westbrook put that shot up,

17:30

everybody could have started stretching, except he had another

17:32

one of those threes that he messed around and

17:34

hit and when he hits it, he'd

17:36

be like, hell yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

17:38

And they're like, no, no, I mean, that

17:40

may be what you talking about. But that'll

17:42

be what you be doing. It's great because

17:44

like he's got the short memory of most

17:47

athletes should have, but everyone else remembers. So

17:49

it's like, hey, Russ, we have all these

17:51

receipts. And on the flip side that

17:53

you could also have to deal with right now

17:55

is Michael Porter, Jr., who hasn't been playing well.

17:57

He who even got called out by his head

17:59

coach being like, hey, if you're not going to do

18:01

what we ask you to do, you're not going to play. Yo,

18:04

and the thing is I typically cut Porter some

18:06

slack because I think his body is so

18:08

cooked. that I am inclined to say

18:10

that that's what the problem is. But you saw

18:12

what Yogi said about that. He was like,

18:14

hey, at this point, if you can't focus, maybe

18:16

you're playing the wrong sport. Tough.

18:19

How about this? How crazy is that? Mike

18:21

Malone is gone. And somebody

18:23

still got to hit you with the uncomfortable

18:25

truth. You know? Like, I love

18:28

that. The nuggets are like, look, we

18:30

were tired of that guy, but

18:32

somebody got to say it. It's incredible

18:34

that he's been the head coach of the

18:36

team for less than two weeks. It is

18:38

already coming out on press conferences and saying

18:40

this. And you know, it's a real problem

18:42

then. Yeah. But what you know is

18:45

it's one thing when the guy that everybody who

18:47

got tired of it been saying it and then

18:49

everybody could kind of stop listening. But then a

18:51

guy who's here and you know, he knows and

18:53

he's like, all right, but for real,

18:55

right? Can you can you help us

18:57

out here? Can you lock in a little bit? Because

19:00

look. If Porter plays well, which I

19:02

guess I've given up on the idea

19:04

that he will consistently play well, if he

19:06

consistently plays well, they're champions, right?

19:09

I mean, that's basically what we saw two years ago

19:11

is that if you got a consistent Michael Porter, what

19:13

are you going to do with them? Like Murray was

19:15

out there on the two man game like you need

19:17

him to be, then what is it

19:19

at that point that you're going to do?

19:22

What is it? And so we'll

19:24

see. Last thing I'll say before we

19:26

move on, Nick's

19:28

Pistons is going to

19:30

be a really really really good

19:32

time And I think Sean

19:34

that it is a matter

19:37

of time before the pistons fully

19:39

and transparently Resort to trying

19:41

to make Carl and Anthony

19:43

Towns cry, but if they

19:45

don't make him cry There is

19:47

a good chance that

19:49

he will eat them alive.

19:51

He had 23 points on

19:54

14 shots in that game

19:56

Right and the big one is this He

19:58

didn't foul himself out of the game.

20:00

He only had three fouls. Like what you

20:02

can get towns to do is to foul

20:05

himself out of the game. Even if he

20:07

doesn't foul out, he'll foul himself out of

20:09

the game. They could not do anything with

20:11

him. You know, Goofy -Air coming up, doing, you

20:13

know, look at all weird, making strange faces,

20:15

but he getting buckets so everybody's gonna have

20:17

to like, let it go. Like

20:19

at some point, if the pisses are gonna

20:21

do this, what they gotta do is just

20:23

batter him. Like, that's going to

20:25

be the thing that they have to

20:27

try, batter him and wear the team

20:29

down overall. And they have Isaiah Stewart,

20:32

who's the perfect player for this. That's

20:34

pretty much his only job in the

20:36

NBA is to get into a fight

20:38

or annoy an opposing player. He had

20:40

five fouls in 19 minutes. That's

20:45

what this is. That's the thing that

20:47

you forget about with a dude like

20:49

that, where it doesn't even really matter

20:51

if you foul out. He

20:54

out there to do it like that's that's

20:56

what that's that's it He out there

20:58

to do it the other thing that was

21:00

very interesting about them is that Kate

21:02

Cunningham is obviously the best player and Kate

21:04

Cunningham is a distributor But a question

21:06

that you asked about a team like Detroit

21:08

is do they have a guy that

21:10

can go out here and get buckets and

21:12

Tobias Harris believes that they have a guy who

21:14

can do that and that that guy is Tobias

21:16

Harris Tobias Harris, did you watch

21:18

it? The first half, I have never seen

21:20

Tobias Harris be that aggressive on a basketball court

21:23

in my life. Maybe he does that all

21:25

the time with this team, right? But Tobias Harris,

21:27

he who has made a quarter of a

21:29

billion dollars without making an all NBA team or

21:31

an all defense team, I have never seen

21:33

him ready to show them, show the world what

21:35

he about. The Internet's always like

21:37

Tobias Harris is the LeBron James of

21:39

Tobias Harris is because you don't

21:42

really understand what his value is. And

21:44

then some ways or shape another

21:46

he did. He brings that value. Yeah.

21:48

But his value is he's six 10 and

21:51

he can get buckets, right? Yeah. Like

21:53

he is not quite a number two, but

21:55

being a number three is probably an over qualification. He

21:57

doesn't know what to do. But as I talk

21:59

about him looking so aggressive and he did in

22:01

that first half, eight for 13. That's

22:04

it. Just 13.

22:06

8 for 13 like he's

22:08

made one quarter

22:10

of a billion dollars and

22:12

we still like Yeah, but

22:19

I

22:21

Want to talk about the Lakers

22:23

and the Timberwolves and then

22:25

get to this article the Tim

22:27

McMahon VSPN put out here

22:30

on Monday morning. I'm also I'm

22:32

pretty deep into McMahon's book

22:34

called The Wonder Boy about Luka

22:36

Donic. So I was reading

22:38

that on Sunday after I watched

22:40

them play that game on

22:42

Saturday. And then McMahon's story

22:44

about the Mavris organization and

22:46

Nico Harrison, that came out

22:48

on Monday morning. So it all comes

22:50

through at the same time. First about

22:52

the game, I think something that it

22:54

can be a kind of easy to

22:57

forget. And I think is interesting as

22:59

it relates to this game. is

23:01

that Luka Donchich,

23:03

I don't know how he

23:06

views the Minnesota Timberwolves, but

23:08

I imagine that the Minnesota Timberwolves view

23:10

Luka Donchich as the dude that put

23:12

them out of the postseason. I have

23:14

not seen but so much coverage that's

23:16

probably that is locked in on the

23:18

idea that our guy, the Ant -Man, wired

23:20

as the Ant -Man is looking at

23:22

Luka Donchich on the other side. That

23:25

sounded like some motivation, right? Okay.

23:27

Not only does it sound like motivation, I

23:30

would love to be put into a

23:32

situation where I feel as motivated

23:34

to try to get my lick back

23:36

as I would if I were

23:38

Anthony Edwards and that the person that

23:40

I personify as the dude from

23:43

whom I need to get my lick

23:45

back from what if he

23:47

can't guard anybody and I

23:49

feel like I saw a

23:51

lot of that. in

23:53

the Temple Wolves, uh, Lakers

23:55

game. A lot of, they were

23:57

hunting Luca because Luca is

23:59

food. They also did something

24:01

interesting, which is Luca is

24:04

food, but you know who Luca

24:06

looks at like being the most food?

24:08

Rudy Gobert. You may

24:10

remember when he put that shot in Rudy's eye

24:13

last year and hit him and cussing at him and

24:15

everything else. They ain't really getting Rudy for so

24:17

much burn in that game, Sean. If they Rudy plays

24:19

something like 24 minutes or whatever it was in

24:21

that game, By and large, Minnesota can

24:23

go small and spread you out, but keep

24:25

Nas read in the game. And that's what

24:27

they did. And it's the perfect

24:29

matchup for the Lakers who always play a

24:31

little smaller. You know, they'll they'll shell

24:33

out four guys who are above six, seven,

24:36

but no one's above six, 11. So it's

24:38

like that perfect matchup that goes against

24:40

actually what the Lakers do well. And

24:42

they don't have in the Lakers don't have

24:44

anybody that can protect the realm. Right. And

24:46

Jackson Hayes, the closest thing to it, played

24:48

a whopping eight minutes in that game. Like.

24:51

JJ has done a very good job

24:53

of scheming up defense for them. Can you

24:55

get by in the playoffs, scheming up defense

24:57

in spite of your personnel becomes the question,

24:59

right? Like is that an 82 game strategy

25:01

that proves to be sustainable in a seven

25:03

game series? We don't have that answer. Also,

25:05

though, to be fair to the Lakers, I

25:08

mean, they shot, Minnesota shot 21

25:10

for 42 from three. That's

25:13

not going to happen. Every

25:15

night right like that

25:17

was that was largely anomalous

25:19

and the Lakers themselves

25:21

couldn't really get any buckets,

25:23

but I think

25:25

we may a lot of us

25:27

did may have rather gotten just a

25:29

touch ahead of ourselves and what we

25:31

think this Lakers team is going to do

25:33

because they have like LeBron and Luca

25:35

they have them two dudes at the

25:38

top of the game We totally 100 %

25:40

get that we see that But

25:42

if Anthony Edwards is a star

25:44

in the way that we have

25:46

talked about him becoming Right and last

25:48

year was a big step in him becoming that

25:50

guy And I think we looked at the

25:52

Olympics that he played pretty well on the Olympics

25:54

And he looked like he was still making

25:56

that progression if he wanted to show me that

25:58

he was making that big step Getting this

26:00

to seven or winning this

26:02

series That's when you so that

26:05

that's when we really really see it like

26:07

I am really looking forward to seeing them play

26:09

this game. I guess they play again On

26:12

Tuesday night because if

26:14

somehow they take that back to Minnesota

26:16

up like that. Oh The

26:18

Lakers got issues now

26:20

Speaking of the Lakers issues. I

26:22

just mentioned one of those issues is

26:24

that Luca Luca got buckets, but Luca

26:27

is food Okay, it's

26:29

just what it comes down to Luca is

26:31

food if Nico

26:33

Harrison Sean you have

26:36

to hope that like Luca is food In

26:38

every game and that every time they

26:40

play on television because I look Lucas

26:43

put up all these numbers and done all

26:45

these things over the years, but I

26:47

don't know how much Most people have

26:49

actually like league pass guys. Yes have watched

26:51

Luca play a lot of basketball But

26:53

I don't know how much like the median

26:55

basketball fan has truly watched him play

26:57

And so he's become way more famous since

26:59

this trade because this was so big

27:01

and the noise around it was so big

27:03

right if you Nico You want

27:06

Luca on TV every game on

27:08

skates, right? Yeah, all you're

27:10

hearing in your head is that same

27:12

line you've been telling reporters for weeks

27:14

as defense wins championships. And if the

27:16

Lakers, like you said, have an early

27:18

exit and a majority of the reason

27:20

why is because they put Luca under

27:22

terrible matchups all game, then maybe Nico

27:24

Harrison was right. Right cuz God

27:26

he needs it so bad Shawn needs it so

27:28

bad said the guy's son down so bad He

27:30

needs it so bad. He's losing. I'm gonna get

27:32

to something back to that right fast a buddy

27:34

of mine hit me up about Rudy I would

27:37

just stick with me right fast y 'all cuz

27:39

I feel like you can help here like Rudy

27:41

got to get more credit And I feel like

27:43

I was just being too hard on Rudy looking

27:45

like eating Rudy up But the truth is I don't

27:47

think people get Rudy enough credit for moving his

27:49

feet nearly as well as he does on the perimeter

27:51

would have cast me trying to get Rudy on

27:53

skates Rudy is what like seven two Yeah,

27:56

he's 7 -2 and lanky,

27:58

but like it's funny the

28:00

meme of him when Luca, you know,

28:02

spun him around and then they like

28:04

show the replay over and over again.

28:06

The footwork's honestly not bad for a

28:08

guy that big. Yeah, people just

28:10

don't want to like Rudy. That's

28:12

just really what it comes down

28:14

to. People like like Rudy Pepe

28:16

La Pew coming over here for France breaking

28:18

bad with your queen. You know what I'm saying?

28:21

Everybody wants the

28:24

bad news for Rudy, but no, I want to

28:26

make sure it doesn't sound like I was just knocking

28:28

Rudy. But anyway, back to

28:30

the Mavs and that boy

28:32

Nico. I don't know what's going

28:34

to have to happen at this point. To

28:37

to help this out with me

28:39

girl like I'm reading a

28:41

McMahon's book about Luca and The tone

28:43

of the book is fairly neutral right like

28:45

it's got a bit of a Joe Friday Just

28:47

the facts sort of situation in the way

28:49

that it talks about all the things but one

28:51

thing that is a recurring theme and you

28:53

know This book was certainly mostly finished if not

28:55

all the way finished before this trade I

28:57

haven't gotten to where the trade would happen. So

28:59

maybe I'm off there, but The

29:01

things that you're hearing about Luca

29:03

they come up in the

29:05

book. Like the conditioning issues, for

29:07

example, right? Just kind of, you know, him

29:09

coming back and never being ready and not

29:12

being in shape in the ways that they

29:14

have covered for the fact that he hasn't

29:16

been in shape. There's also a

29:18

discussion in the book about just talking

29:20

about Nico in general, about Nico and

29:22

his willingness to make moves that are

29:24

not like a caution to the wind

29:26

sort of thing. Like there, there's signs

29:28

here that you could see some of

29:30

what ultimately happened could, you I would

29:32

not say that you could see it

29:35

coming from the book, but you could

29:37

see the factors that we heard being

29:39

discussed later. Yeah, some of those

29:41

things, um, those kind of

29:43

come up in the book,

29:45

but not playing defense and

29:47

being in poor condition are

29:49

running themes in this book

29:51

about dealing with Luca. And

29:54

so if you're Nico, all you

29:56

got left at this point

29:58

is hoping that the Minnesota Timberwolves

30:00

feast. On luka

30:02

donchich and then at the

30:04

very least somebody maybe just maybe

30:06

could understand what it is

30:08

that you was doing and what

30:10

it is that you were

30:13

talking about except the story comes

30:15

out on Monday morning and

30:17

Sean you read the story, right?

30:20

Yep. Did you have did anything jump

30:22

out to you? No, I

30:24

mean it was just this pretty much the

30:26

reporting that we've all heard I think the

30:28

closed door meeting that happened recently knowing

30:31

Tim McMahon was in that closed door meeting

30:33

and was the one who was asking

30:35

Nico to elaborate on things and didn't get

30:37

any answers was like kind of a

30:39

real but we all knew that he ran

30:41

out that staff and then hired two

30:43

guys but He hired the guy that would

30:45

run the whole thing after he hired

30:48

the guy that will work directly below them

30:50

and these guys can't seem to agree

30:52

on anything. And so now this is this

30:54

has been a season where players have

30:56

felt like they have been brought back from

30:58

injury too soon and you saw that

31:00

we watched that entire team break down. for

31:03

a stretch at the end of the

31:05

year and one of those people being Anthony

31:07

Davis who was coming back off of

31:09

an injury that he seemed to re -aggravate

31:11

and so Nico on one hand makes the

31:13

argument in the piece that the injuries

31:15

that they have dealt with and this is

31:17

from the closed -door meeting but the injuries

31:20

that they've dealt with have been largely

31:22

contact but there have been a lot of

31:24

re -aggravations that have taken place with injuries

31:26

on this team. I say that to

31:28

say that part of why the part of

31:30

the argument behind why getting rid of

31:32

the previous staff The thought was that they

31:35

were too close to Luca, right?

31:37

And there's all been all these things that

31:39

we've seen in time about Luca's relationship with

31:41

the physical, the physical people of the team,

31:43

basically, and whether they had been doing right

31:45

by him, wrong by him, or whatever it

31:47

is, but. The argument that Nico

31:49

Harrison had after that trade, I think, to try

31:51

to help him out is, well look, everybody

31:53

got hurt. How terrible is our luck that everybody

31:56

got hurt? We haven't had a chance to

31:58

see what this team is gonna be because everybody

32:00

got hurt. But if everybody's getting hurt because

32:02

you did a bad job of hiring the team

32:04

that takes care of their bodies, oh buddy,

32:06

you've got to go. Like I

32:08

have never seen a situation where somebody

32:10

has to be fired It doesn't matter

32:12

whether or not he was right about

32:14

the trade because you're not going to

32:16

find out whether or not he was

32:18

right about that trade Probably for years

32:20

now you'll find out he was wrong

32:22

about the trade if the Lakers win

32:24

a championship this year for example, right?

32:26

Like then okay, then it's like oh,

32:29

yeah, I really don't move there, but

32:31

otherwise he was making the long bet And

32:33

another thing that comes up in the book,

32:35

by the way, is different trades that teams made

32:37

about picking up like first round picks from

32:39

the Mavs in like 2030 or stuff like that,

32:42

which is in part a bet that Donchich

32:44

won't play for them anymore. Like people are making

32:46

a lot of very interesting bets about whether

32:48

or not he would be on that team or

32:50

what that would mean for the Mavericks and

32:52

everything else. But the bottom line is, if this

32:54

was a bad long -term move, we're only gonna

32:56

know it in the long term. That's

32:59

it. So he was always playing on

33:01

that delay, which meant that you had to

33:03

have something going for you in the

33:05

short run. And if the word is, your

33:08

strength and conditioning team is

33:10

getting guys hurt, then you

33:12

can't work there anymore after you traded

33:14

Luga. The fans have turned on you. It's

33:16

not certain that the players can trust

33:19

their bodies with you. And, and this is,

33:21

this just happened. Sean, I sent you

33:23

this link. I have not read the story.

33:25

It is at what, D -L -L -S Sports.

33:27

You know what, the websites, they can

33:29

do city sports, but they take all the

33:31

vowels out. All right, so

33:33

anyway, Tim Cato writes for

33:35

them. And this

33:37

is the headline. The

33:40

headline is, Inside

33:42

the Mavericks Nico Harrison Decision.

33:44

which might be more

33:46

complicated than it seems. One

33:49

point that was made about this

33:51

when I saw the link initially,

33:53

Sean, was that

33:55

Jason Kidd, let it

33:57

be said, Jason Kidd

33:59

was so exasperated by the

34:01

trade at one point

34:04

that he skipped out on

34:06

a press conference. Now,

34:08

Sean. Wow. Yes.

34:10

I don't know how much

34:12

you know. about Jason Kidd,

34:14

but Jason Kidd, this ain't

34:16

gonna fall on top of

34:18

him. No, no. And if

34:20

he does, it ain't gonna

34:22

happen to him all by

34:24

himself. So we have reached

34:26

the point of this program

34:28

where Jason Kidd wants people

34:30

to know, hey,

34:33

man, I don't really

34:35

think that this

34:37

is my fault. know

34:42

what I mean? And that's to me

34:44

way more of a reveal than anything in

34:46

the big man story because I mentioned

34:49

to you like Tim Kato has been with

34:51

the mass for over a decade. He's

34:53

actually tapped in and he's got legit sources.

34:55

So this kid reveal is actually the

34:57

biggest thing from that week of reporting of

34:59

whatever that presser, Nico Presser was. Here's

35:02

a quote while kid was understandably frustrated

35:04

this season with the team's injury crisis.

35:06

He also resented the front offices midseason.

35:08

Dodgers trade multiple team and league sources

35:10

say even if he shared some of

35:12

Harrison's frustrations with Dodgers that led to

35:14

his trade of him. So on one

35:16

hand, he's like, yo, yo, I get

35:19

it. But at the same time, I

35:21

was, you know, I was willing to

35:23

kind of work, try to work through

35:25

it. Jason kids like yeah defense wins

35:27

championships. I'm with you, but at what

35:29

cost, you know? Yes. Yes. Like there's

35:31

no winning. There's no way that this

35:33

can turn. I think where Nico

35:36

really, really messed up in this where he was

35:38

just like, I don't worry about the fans.

35:40

My job is to do what's best for the

35:42

Dallas Mavericks. That's not how this game works.

35:44

Like, yes, you are a correct in the macro,

35:46

but you do have to care about the

35:48

fans because they spend money and stuff. Like,

35:51

you can't say that they're

35:53

never coming back around on you.

35:55

And so you have lost

35:57

the fans. Mark Cuban all the

35:59

way out here on his It Wasn't Me

36:01

program, right? So you got to deal with

36:03

that part. And now

36:05

you got Jason Kidd making sure

36:07

that everybody knows that, you

36:09

know, it wasn't him that would

36:11

do that. That means that

36:14

this man, he has nowhere to

36:16

turn, nowhere. You're

36:18

done here. but he ain't going quick

36:20

because then he don't get his money.

36:23

When he and the Mavericks, everybody just got to

36:25

look at each other and just say, hey man,

36:27

it's not going to work, but you got to

36:30

do it. You might as well do it now.

36:32

There's no point in waiting. All you're going to

36:34

do by waiting is make everything way worse. 'all need

36:36

to hurry up and 'all need to go ahead

36:38

and y 'all need to get this done because Luca

36:40

is out here getting cooked. It won't matter. He

36:42

can't play bad enough defense for anybody to understand

36:44

where exactly it is that y 'all was coming

36:46

from. It can't be done. Sean, that story say

36:48

Dirk don't even kick it with them no more.

36:51

Yeah, that was another review like Dirk is pretty

36:53

fed up with the championship and it makes sense

36:55

while he was at Lucas. The

36:57

game the Dallas return and like

37:00

why everyone's like why would Dirk

37:02

be at the Laker game home

37:04

game? They're at the wrong side

37:06

of the guy literally Everybody likes

37:08

it's got a statue everybody likes

37:10

dirt right he gotta say people

37:12

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Emily Brownstein and I'm a reporter

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a story about what's motivating college students

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to pursue Wall Street jobs. I

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wanted to understand what they really want

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out of these careers because breaking into the

44:40

industry is so notoriously difficult and long. I

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also wondered how Gen Z reconciles with some

44:45

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44:47

stories of junior bankers fainting out of

44:49

exhaustion at the desk and in some cases

44:51

even dying. So I surveyed

44:54

150 college students, mostly in

44:56

campus finance clubs, and I interviewed

44:58

about 30 from some top

45:00

universities. Most students want to

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do investment banking right after college as

45:04

their first jobs. A lot of

45:06

them said banking is simply ground zero for every

45:08

other job in finance. It gives them

45:10

the skills and maybe more importantly, the

45:12

connections to move into other parts of the

45:14

industry after a couple of years. And

45:17

in our survey, compensation and exit

45:19

opportunities were the top most important qualities

45:21

in a first job for them. Some

45:25

first -year analysts get paid

45:27

about $110 ,000 in base

45:29

salary alone, not including

45:31

bonuses. They're paid so

45:33

much for a reason though, and that's

45:35

because they're known to work 80,

45:37

90, 100 hour workweek sometimes. We

45:40

asked them to rate their level

45:42

of concern with five topics related to

45:44

a finance career, and long hours

45:46

and high stress had the highest average

45:48

concern ratings. Students

45:50

seem to know what they're signing up for.

45:52

They've heard the horror stories. But

45:54

really interestingly, they're still mostly

45:56

pursuing the jobs anyway. One

45:59

person said they plan to set boundaries, others

46:01

said they think they can handle it,

46:03

and some are actually excited about pulling all

46:05

-nighters, or so they told me. They

46:07

all believe if they work really, really hard

46:09

at a young age, they will be rewarded

46:12

in some way down the line. And

46:14

they're also sort of resigned to their

46:16

fate that if they want this prestigious lucrative

46:18

career in finance, they don't really have

46:20

a choice but to accept it. So

46:22

I thought of her observations. They were

46:24

interesting. But Sean, in the end, I

46:27

came around to why are they doing

46:29

this? The same reason that anybody has

46:31

ever done that God -forsaken job. They

46:33

just want to get paid. Get rich, get

46:36

money, have a good life.

46:39

I've realized now people are like, let

46:42

me work in the trenches until

46:44

I can retire early, which is

46:46

the previous generation's mindset as well.

46:48

And no longer are people doing

46:50

kind of, I guess, cool jobs,

46:52

quote unquote. Well, the problem

46:55

is this, man, it's going to

46:57

be hard to get money doing something

46:59

you like doing. Like I think

47:01

that that era might be over because

47:03

getting money doing just about anything

47:05

or getting enough money to feel like

47:07

you got money is kind of

47:09

going away. Right. And so on this

47:11

one, what is the job? The

47:13

job is making money. Like

47:15

that's what you do. Right. Like I do

47:17

a job that people then in turn

47:19

try to make money off of. OK. Their

47:21

job is literally making money. Right. Why

47:23

do they want to do the job? They

47:25

want to get money. It's funny,

47:27

you know, Chico on the chat says,

47:29

I blame industry on HBO, which is another

47:31

great TV show. And two back to

47:33

back weeks, we have two articles about Gen

47:35

Z trying again to these medical fields.

47:37

The last one was about kind of more

47:40

internal medicine or emergency doctors, which the

47:42

pit describes very really and viscerally industry the

47:44

same way. And it's like, well, they're

47:46

showing these jobs because there's a lot of

47:48

drama and stress around it, you know?

47:50

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But not, not people. These

47:52

are all jobs people have always wanted

47:54

to do because they wanted to. a lot

47:56

of money. Exactly. Plain and simple. All

47:59

right, here's the next one. Hi, I'm

48:01

Faith Hill, and I'm a staff writer for

48:03

The Atlantic. I recently wrote

48:05

a story titled, Grandparents Are Reaching Their

48:07

Limit. I started reporting

48:09

this piece because I kept hearing

48:11

the same complaint that today's grandparents

48:13

are slacking. A lot

48:15

of young parents feel disappointed that their own

48:18

parents aren't helping more with childcare. They

48:20

want to know what happened to a village raising a

48:22

kid. But when I started

48:24

researching, I learned that

48:26

modern grandparenting is actually really involved,

48:29

even more so than it's been for much of this

48:31

country's past. In early

48:33

American history, grandparents tended to

48:35

act as respected authority figures. Eventually,

48:38

the Great Depression pushed more families

48:40

to live in three -generation homes, and older

48:42

adults were often seen as burdens. And

48:45

later, grandparents came to be associated

48:47

with the fun and delightful parts

48:49

of child rearing. None of these

48:51

roles necessarily involved running around changing

48:53

diapers or helping with homework. But

48:56

today, a lot of seniors are acting

48:58

as co -parents. A

49:00

few changes have led here. The

49:03

number of single parents and working

49:05

mothers of young kids has increased, and

49:07

the cost of childcare keeps growing. But

49:10

U .S. federal law still doesn't guarantee

49:12

paid parental leave or paid sick leave. On

49:15

top of that, intensive parenting is now

49:17

the norm. which means more time and

49:19

energy being spent watching kids around the

49:21

clock. Parents are overwhelmed.

49:24

Now grandparents are too. Quality

49:26

time together can be deeply meaningful

49:28

for older adults and their grandkids. But

49:31

even when you love someone, being there for

49:33

them can be an imposition. Many

49:36

grandparents are still in the workforce. Some

49:38

of them are using up their retirement

49:40

savings, providing for their families. And

49:43

the bulk of the work tends to fall

49:45

to grandmothers specifically. American

49:47

society has made progress towards accepting

49:49

that mothers have value beyond their

49:51

caregiving abilities, but that should apply

49:53

to older women as well as younger ones. Maybe

49:56

if a stronger social safety net

49:58

existed, their childcare was more affordable,

50:01

families could be present together in ways that

50:03

aren't all about labor and sacrifice. For

50:06

now, the chances for disappointment are

50:09

high. grandparents don't

50:11

want to raise their grandchildren. They just want

50:13

to hang out with them and don't over

50:15

them and buy them stuff and hug and

50:17

kiss them. You're out here awesome. Y 'all can

50:19

you feed them and stuff, do all this

50:21

stuff while I'm out doing something else? They're

50:23

like, no, that's not, I did that already.

50:25

It's so funny when my wife and I hang

50:28

out with our parents and they're both like,

50:30

well, we're going to babysit when we want to

50:32

or when it's like a two hour three

50:34

hour thing. We're not taking care of your kids.

50:36

We're not, you know, and I think that's

50:38

the norm for more people my age who are

50:40

starting to have kids where their grandparents are

50:42

involved just enough, you know. Right.

50:44

But I mean, there is and I get

50:46

it, like, and I'm only gendering this because

50:48

this is how people talk about it. But

50:51

like, mama got to have a life too.

50:53

Yeah, exactly. Right. Yes. Yes. Yes. That is

50:55

a fair point. But the vast majority of

50:57

that is going to involve this kid. That's

51:00

that's kind of how it like you made

51:02

it. You know, it's like, OK, maybe the grandparents

51:04

could take him to Disney. That but that'll

51:06

buy the parents some time, you know. Yeah.

51:08

And I see that for the grandparents, though,

51:10

being like, hey, hey, hey, hey, you try

51:12

to play in my face right now. I

51:14

didn't realize how many y 'all was out

51:17

here trying to get over on your parents

51:19

like that. I ain't even know. Yeah,

51:21

pretty wild. Um, so

51:23

for this last, if you haven't heard, we

51:25

had a submission, uh, not drop in and it

51:27

kind of works out because if you haven't

51:29

heard for mainly the, the right time audience, this

51:31

will be my last week producing the podcast

51:33

and my last week at the company wave. Uh,

51:35

mainly just wanted to give a shout out

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to you, Beaumont. This has been one of the,

51:39

you know, best career. uh, aspects

51:41

that I've had so far in my professional life,

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working with you and getting to know you

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and even, you know, hanging out with you outside

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been a blast. Shout out to the right time

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audience. They've been really supportive and I just,

51:54

uh, I feel honored to be part of this

51:56

world and you've really built a great one. Thank

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52:00

before I said this when gay moved on

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Chances are if you're good enough to work

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52:32

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52:34

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52:36

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52:54

your impact on what we do here has

52:57

been felt and greatly appreciated. Yeah, I appreciate

52:59

Bo. And I describe for the audience what

53:01

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53:03

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53:05

you see the coaching tree of the former

53:07

producers or co -hosts that have worked with

53:09

you. And it's like everyone's on to doing

53:11

great things. And it's because they came from

53:13

your lineage. So, you know, truly a wonderful

53:15

experience. I appreciate that. And,

53:17

you know, now we just got

53:19

to get a new producer. How

53:22

hard could that be? Uh,

53:29

something I've noticed in the time producing

53:31

this is you might have a problem, a

53:33

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53:35

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53:37

we get fresh stories every time. So,

53:39

uh, let's start with this first one. I'm

53:42

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53:44

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53:46

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53:48

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53:50

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53:52

football team and long story short,

53:54

I didn't make it. But

53:56

I was in practice one

53:58

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54:00

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54:03

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54:05

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54:07

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54:09

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54:11

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54:13

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54:16

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54:18

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54:20

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54:23

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54:25

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54:27

like screw the pooch, but

54:29

much worse. And everybody just started

54:31

laughing all over again, completely

54:33

derailed the film session. But

54:37

the punchline to this story

54:39

is that that coach is now

54:41

the offensive coordinator for the

54:43

New York Jets. Love the

54:45

show, Bo. Been listening since the

54:47

Morning Jones days. Love the show. Hold

54:51

on one second. I'm doing a little

54:53

Googling. Ah,

54:55

that's funny. I love the idea that

54:57

you guys actually had the courage to

54:59

ask, what does that mean? As to

55:01

when I heard the coach say you

55:03

couldn't hit a bullet ass with a

55:06

pineapple, we didn't understand what that meant.

55:08

We just acted like we did. Sometimes

55:10

it's better not to ask, right? To

55:13

keep that myth of that world or

55:15

that phrase. Let's just get it

55:17

out of here. Let's just keep this thing moving. All

55:20

right, here's our next one. Hey,

55:22

what's going on? But we've got a

55:24

quick story for you about a funny thing

55:26

I heard a coach say. So

55:28

this was back in December 2008. We've

55:30

been in high school, had just lost in a playoffs,

55:32

and it was a heavy recruiting season. College

55:34

coaches come in a long, long time. So

55:37

we love who used to be outside in

55:39

these portables, where all the players would just

55:41

huddle up, all the seniors would huddle up,

55:43

and have college coaches come in not all

55:45

the time. And Coach is looking for them,

55:47

and she calls out for them with us

55:49

say, John. Coach calls out for John. John

55:51

isn't in the room. So he tells the

55:53

college football coach that he's probably next door

55:55

on gamblers and all of this. Having a

55:57

big old dice game, going shirts off, money

55:59

passing around, you know the thing. So

56:01

coach goes over there and he calls

56:03

the player, kiss him out. He

56:05

comes on over and comes out with

56:07

a fistful of cash, no shirt on,

56:10

pants sagging, everything. Coach

56:12

says, huh, son, listen, he got

56:14

the hot hand in there. That's the kind of players

56:16

we need on our team. We would love to

56:18

see you wearing the green and gold. And

56:20

I'm just looking at this, like, what

56:22

is going on? Coach offers

56:24

to play on the spot. He

56:27

commits that coach, art

56:29

brows. And that's

56:32

when I learned that college

56:34

coaches don't care nothing about character

56:36

or anything at all for

56:38

show. They just care about, can

56:40

you help me win? Because they want

56:42

to play with a hot hand on a day's

56:44

game. All right, man. Love it.

56:46

So keep doing what you do. Thank you. Yo,

56:51

our brow, she's like, that

56:53

is not, to be fair,

56:55

I give credit in that case to

56:57

our brows for keeping his eye on

56:59

the prize, right? That should not have

57:01

been a disqualify factor, but the spinner

57:03

dance, we need a boy with luck

57:05

like yours. That's

57:08

wild. This

57:10

gives perfect opportunity to look up

57:12

our browser's career across prize

57:14

picks, you know, transform

57:16

and impact on high school

57:18

and college football, built multiple

57:20

dynasties, University of Houston and

57:22

Baylor, revived struggling programs. This

57:24

is all incredible. And, you

57:26

know, a couple of scandals here and

57:28

there, but hearing that voicemail is just

57:30

quite, quite funny. The

57:32

new level of this, that these guys

57:34

are telling us stories about coaches

57:36

we've heard of. Isn't that

57:38

crazy? That's the, that's the timeline we're

57:41

on now. One's the OC for the

57:43

jets. What is our bro? Our

57:45

brails. He said, we need, we go

57:47

need somebody like you with degree to

57:49

go. He called it gambler synonymous, which

57:51

is crazy enough. Right. Like I thought

57:54

that was going to be the story. Absolutely

57:56

insane. And yet, uh, this last one

57:59

is the craziest. So here we go. Hey,

58:01

Bo. Hey, Sean. I coached high

58:03

school football for over a decade and

58:05

our head coach who was a legend

58:07

and our oldest assistant coach who was

58:09

a legend, I could feel your show

58:11

just with things they said. But

58:13

the craziest thing I ever heard a coach

58:15

say, I did not hear directly, it was

58:18

our head coach telling us a college story.

58:20

Everybody remembers that movie, We Are Marshall,

58:22

loved it, celebrated, nobody thinks of the

58:24

other side. My head coach was

58:27

on the Xavier Squad that Marshall famously beat

58:29

from a big conclusion to the movie.

58:31

He said that when they lost and they're

58:33

in the locker room, their head coach

58:35

didn't come in for a little bit. And

58:37

when he finally came in, he looked

58:39

around the room, made sure all their eyes

58:41

were on him and said, I wish

58:44

it had been you, mother, on that plane

58:46

instead. Yeah.

58:48

Wish this whole team was dead. Have

58:51

a good one, both. Sean

58:56

do you have some draft Kings

58:59

picks for the people? I sure do

59:01

Thanks to draft Kings for their

59:03

pick six as you know if you

59:05

put in If any money you

59:07

can get up to $50 of bonus

59:09

cash. Let's start NBA playoff basketball

59:11

game to Pistons nicks. I like Kate

59:14

Cunningham to have more than 27

59:16

and a half points He only scored

59:18

21 in the first game. I

59:20

think he bounces back Kawhi Leonard 24

59:22

a half. We talked about how

59:24

goodies looked I think he has more

59:26

there, Nikol Jokic, the best basketball

59:29

player in the world, 27 .5 points

59:31

against the LA Clippers. And Avisa Zubac

59:33

could be an all NBA player

59:35

this season, 12 .5 rebounds. I'll take

59:37

more. And yes, Bo, I

59:39

know you're still reacting to that

59:41

voicemail. I'm going to ask if

59:43

you can do something I've never asked before. Can

59:46

you play that? Can you play that

59:48

again? Please do. Hey,

59:51

Bo. Hey, Sean. I coached high school

59:53

football for over a decade and our

59:55

head coach, who was a legend and

59:57

our oldest assistant coach, who was a

59:59

legend, I could feel your show just

1:00:01

with things they said. But

1:00:03

the craziest thing I ever heard a coach

1:00:05

say, I did not hear directly, it was

1:00:07

our head coach telling us a college story. Everybody

1:00:10

remembers that movie, We Are Marshall, loved

1:00:12

it, celebrated, nobody thinks of the other

1:00:14

side. My head coach was on

1:00:16

the Xavier Squad that Marshall famously beat

1:00:19

from a big conclusion to the movie. He

1:00:21

said that when they lost and they're

1:00:23

in the locker room, their head coach didn't

1:00:25

come in for a little bit. And

1:00:27

when he finally came in, he looked around

1:00:29

the room, made sure all their eyes

1:00:31

were on him and said, I wish it

1:00:33

had been you mother on that plane

1:00:36

instead. Yeah, wish

1:00:38

this whole team was dead. Have

1:00:41

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