22:00

hey son, you know, it's gonna be okay. She

22:03

didn't have time for that. And

22:06

sometimes she gets upset when I talk about

22:08

my past because it paints her out to

22:10

be not the best mom. If

22:12

I had any kind of mom in that kind of environment, I

22:15

would have never made it. Because she

22:18

forced me, for every reason, she

22:20

forced me to better figure

22:22

this out. Or you're

22:25

gonna be a statistic. And

22:27

this is something that she didn't sit down and tell me. I

22:30

realize this. This is the world that is in

22:32

front of me. And what

22:34

most people do is they see this world and

22:37

they look at it as an excuse to get out of it. Yeah.

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25:13

I started looking at it as

25:16

this is the ultimate training ground

25:19

for the rest of my life. I

25:22

have all these valuable lessons because if you look out

25:24

in the world right now today, it's not

25:26

a nice place, but I'm very prepared

25:28

for it. I'm prepared for

25:30

it. I'm prepared for all the failure coming my way.

25:33

I'm prepared for everything my way. That's

25:36

the biggest lesson that she taught me by not teaching

25:38

me, by never saying it's going

25:40

to be okay. As a matter of fact,

25:42

she told me the exact opposite. Life

25:45

sucks. That's what she knew.

25:48

There was the truth. That was

25:50

her reality. That was her reality. Yeah.

25:52

And so I saw that. And so

25:54

I started at that point in my life. I have a

25:56

lot more failures as you see in that book, but

25:59

I started. down the road of instead of the

26:02

path of least resistance,

26:05

I started choosing the path of most resistance to

26:07

prepare myself for the journey that was coming my

26:10

way. Wow. And most kids don't prepare

26:12

themselves for the most resistance. They wanna get out of

26:14

things. They wanna get out of things. Get off the

26:16

hook. Right. Don't put in the extra

26:18

reps. Right. They want the easiest path to get to

26:20

the top, right? Right, exactly. Huh.

26:23

You know, I look at my

26:26

life as like, and here you talk about like

26:28

really diving into pain and like embracing pain and

26:30

finding, looking for the pain. Right. And

26:32

I think there's like a, there's

26:35

a safe pain and then there's probably an unsafe

26:37

pain. I'm just like jumping off a building and

26:39

you know, whatever and trying to land on 20

26:41

floors or something. It's probably not the safe way

26:44

to do things. But doing 200 miles of endurance

26:47

running is like a different way of pain, looking

26:49

at pain. And

26:52

that's what I've been looking for my whole life is

26:54

like finding the pain. And I talk about like do

26:56

something every day that's painful. Right. And

26:58

that good structure environment. You've been doing that for the last couple

27:00

of years now. It's like you work out every day. You haven't

27:02

missed a day. I've been doing it for the last 20, 20

27:05

years of my life. 20 years? 20 years. 20

27:08

some years. 20 years. 20 some years of my life. 20

27:10

every day you work out. So I

27:12

used to take one day off a week. Uh-huh.

27:15

I used to take one day off a week. For the body

27:17

to recover, right? Makes sense. But that one day off was an

27:19

active recovery day where I would get on

27:22

a trainer and ride for like two hours. Wow. But

27:24

at a zone one heart rate, I

27:27

had a very little heart rate and I replaced the

27:29

carbohydrates in my body while I rode.

27:31

Because the best way to recover for me is

27:34

to do something at a very little heart rate.

27:36

Because therefore your blood's flowing through your body. As

27:39

your blood's flowing through your body, refuel it

27:42

with the nutrients. Because then your blood's flowing,

27:44

the nutrients is going through all your cells

27:46

in your body. All that glycogen is now

27:48

flowing at a little heart rate. So it's

27:50

not burning it, it's refueling it.

27:53

So every Sunday used to be that. And

27:56

it kind of snowballed into as

27:58

human beings. We

28:01

believe, like so many people, before I give them

28:03

a workout plan, let's talk about recovery, everybody

28:06

that hears me speak, they

28:08

wanna go straight to recovery. Work

28:12

out first. Work

28:14

out first before you talk to me about recovery.

28:16

How to recover, yeah. Work out

28:18

first. We are always looking for,

28:21

like whenever I talk to people, people take

28:23

my words and they

28:25

put it in a way to where

28:28

they wanna feel comfortable. This

28:30

guy, they wanna put you in a

28:32

box. They wanna put a

28:34

title on you. No, you're putting a

28:36

title on me to make yourself feel better about

28:39

yourself. If you read

28:41

this book of mine and you see where I came

28:43

from, this person was not built. This

28:48

person was not made by God. This

28:50

person, sorry, this person was built. I

28:53

made this person. I made

28:55

this person by diving into the insecurities that

28:57

life gave me. Because now they're yours.

29:00

They're yours to own. If you're not smart, call

29:03

yourself dumb. It's okay, because

29:06

you are. But take that knowledge

29:08

you put yourself down. If you're fat, call yourself fat. I

29:10

used to be 300 pounds. We

29:14

wanna talk so soft to ourselves. We're looking for

29:16

that recovery day. And

29:18

that recovery day is everything in your life.

29:21

Everything in your life is a recovery day. We're looking for

29:23

it. It's not coming. It's

29:26

not coming. Get over there

29:28

recovery day. And that's the mentality

29:30

I took with me. And what

29:32

happened through that process was all

29:34

the frivolous things of life start

29:37

to float away. I used to tell people lies

29:39

so they would like me. Because

29:41

I was so insecure. When you

29:44

start to build yourself up and

29:46

start to have the one thing that we don't have

29:49

is confidence. Real, authentic

29:51

confidence from hard work. Everything

29:54

else goes away. You no longer look to

29:56

other people for your self-esteem. It's

29:59

a validation for you. You now know.

30:02

I walk in the room now and I know

30:04

that hours and years and decades I

30:07

put into David Goggins. That's

30:09

something it's not on the wall. It's

30:11

not a trophy on the wall. It's not a medal on your neck. It

30:14

is actually a feeling in your heart and people don't

30:16

ever smile. I don't have

30:19

to. Yeah. Yeah I

30:21

do have a look at my face. I'm a

30:23

very focused person but the feeling I have

30:25

in my soul and in my heart. That's

30:27

why I need to smile. I don't

30:29

need to smile. I don't need you

30:31

look at me and say oh my god you look happy

30:33

because half of us aren't happy. We're

30:36

giving you something that we think you

30:38

want to see. I don't do that anymore.

30:41

I don't care how you perceive David Goggins

30:43

because through my journey I figured

30:45

out the one piece I was missing. I

30:48

thought it was cars. I thought it was women.

30:50

I thought it was money. I thought it

30:52

was everything. The one piece I was missing was

30:55

me having the courage to face

30:57

myself. And once

30:59

you do that on a daily basis it's

31:01

not about the running. People's going to be like,

31:03

that's about working out. Where I got my work ethic

31:05

from was

31:07

the hours I had to spend learning

31:10

this. When you

31:12

sit down and you're not smart and

31:14

you have a disability. Yeah. And

31:16

you still want to be at the top of your class. I didn't

31:18

want to just get by. When I

31:21

realized that I can learn through hard

31:23

work and I can beat

31:25

the valedictorian in school but I got put

31:27

in 10 hours more a day than

31:29

he does. You know what kind of strength

31:31

comes from that? When you're sitting down that

31:33

guy that that valedictorian is ready for an

31:36

hour and you know I caught you. I

31:39

caught you and I am dumb

31:42

but I have the work ethic to

31:44

catch you. That's where David Goggins got

31:47

really invented. Yeah. Was at a kitchen

31:49

table with 20 spiral

31:51

notebooks that were empty and

31:53

then three months later. Yeah. They

31:56

were full. And when you can

31:58

go through that I still have them in my storage unit. I

36:00

was. I was no one. I was

36:02

in the sewer. My mom went there. I had nothing. And

36:05

you always feel like you have nothing.

36:07

I had achieved so much. I

36:10

was a Navy SEAL. I had gone through

36:13

Ranger School. I've gone through Delta IV selection

36:15

training. I'd done so much. I

36:17

run 200 miles, pull-up records,

36:20

everything. Learned to

36:22

read and write. Became pretty intelligent. And

36:25

I still was like, man, what is wrong with me? It

36:28

wasn't until I got real sick, and I talked about in

36:30

the last chapter of that book, I got

36:32

real sick. And I was about 38

36:34

years old. I'm

36:38

43 now. And my life got

36:40

real quiet. I went

36:42

from running 200 and 5 miles in 39 hours to

36:45

I couldn't get out of bed. The doctors couldn't

36:48

figure out what was wrong with me. But once

36:50

again, it was the best thing that ever

36:52

happened to me. Was that? In

36:54

that moment when my whole life changed, I

36:56

went from a guy who worked out every day,

36:58

trained every day, to a guy who couldn't

37:01

get out of bed. My life was taken from me. The

37:03

one thing that kept me going was

37:05

my training. Now you didn't have that.

37:07

I didn't have anything. Now you just had to sit alone.

37:09

Alone. And not train. And that's what

37:12

changed me. And that's when I realized I

37:15

hadn't thought, hadn't taken time to

37:17

think about what I'd

37:19

done in my life. You hadn't reflected yet. I

37:21

hadn't reflected. I'd done all these things, but there

37:23

was no finish line. I still

37:26

believe that, but you must have time to reflect.

37:28

I was just going. I finished

37:30

a race of life, and I wouldn't even receive my

37:32

medal. I'd go on. You're like, on to the next.

37:34

I'd get in the car and I'd go. You wouldn't

37:36

even take the medal? Gone. Don't care about it. Like,

37:38

I'm not going to waste an hour sitting around for

37:40

this ceremony. Most people are sitting around, and that's what

37:43

they like. They

37:45

need the ceremony if I accomplish something. I

37:47

haven't done anything. Let's go. Let's go. Let's

37:49

go. I'm just getting started. I'm just getting

37:51

started. That's right. When I started figuring out

37:53

life, that I was leaving

37:55

so much in the tech, I called my 40%

37:57

rule. I was leaving so much in the tech.

40:00

to your insecurities. And

40:02

then when you go back to your insecurities, you then look for

40:04

comfort within those insecurities. And

40:07

we all look for that cookie that your mom

40:09

used to give you when you were sad, when

40:11

you were sick. We look for

40:13

our wife or our husband, we look for comfort.

40:17

It's in those moments, you

40:19

must retrain your mind to

40:22

think differently in hell. I

40:25

wasn't training them to do that. Why

40:28

weren't you training them? I wasn't training my subject because at

40:30

that time I was doing what I

40:32

was told. These guys needed

40:34

to meet a standard. Physical standard. A

40:36

physical standard. The physical

40:38

standard is not what they need to meet.

40:41

It's a mental standard you must meet in

40:43

life. So going back to

40:45

when I was sick, I

40:47

was hitting the physical standards.

40:51

I wasn't meeting the mental

40:54

standard. The mental standard is you must

40:56

know how far you've come. Wow. I

40:59

wasn't, I had come

41:01

8,000 miles from where I started.

41:04

But if you never know that, you're still in

41:07

the $7 a month place. When

41:10

I was sick, I was able to slow it down

41:13

and reflect back on my entire

41:15

life. And in that bed, and

41:18

I thought I was dying because that story

41:20

is long. That sick portion of my life is

41:22

long. I

41:25

didn't care if I died or lived. Because

41:28

I was for the first time in my life happy at

41:31

that peace. Because I reflected back on

41:33

where I started. You said, well, I have come

41:35

a long way. That's right. And no one saved

41:37

me. It wasn't

41:39

like someone came down here and guided

41:41

me through life. When you figure this out on

41:43

your own, the amount

41:45

of pride and dignity and self respect

41:47

you have, that's why I

41:49

walk around the streets with

41:51

a backpack and just like, I

41:53

don't need anything else. You

41:56

figure it out by going inside

41:58

yourself. By... Callison over

42:00

the victims mentality. You're always a

42:03

victim Even if

42:05

you have everything in life until you

42:07

realize what you've achieved You

42:10

have to first realize what you've achieved in

42:12

my mom has accomplished so much in

42:14

her life since my father But

42:17

she hasn't done that one step really she

42:19

doesn't acknowledge it and reflect she continues to

42:21

go back to the dungeon

42:23

of Her past life and live

42:25

in that space and live in that space versus living

42:27

the space that she's in now and reflecting back on

42:30

my god This is what

42:32

I've done with my life so

42:35

have you talked to her about this we talk about all the

42:38

time and You

42:40

have to be willing to go there You

42:42

have to really really go to not not surface. I

42:44

don't I don't live on the surface of anything Yeah

42:46

surface is what got me where I was at. It

42:48

got me from 175 pounds to 300 pounds telling everybody

42:51

I'm good I

42:54

don't I don't give a damn. I'm good. No,

42:57

they're they're hollow words. Mmm

43:00

A lot of us speak in hollow words. I

43:03

used to speak in hollow words I

43:05

don't do it anymore. Everything that comes on mouth has

43:07

substance is real and We

43:10

all have these feelings in our bodies in our minds

43:12

and our souls. I act on mine

43:14

a lot of us who are

43:16

afraid of something we Allow

43:19

our minds to choose the path of least resistance so we

43:21

go a different route I'm

43:23

afraid of something is tell me you must do

43:25

this. You must do that. Yeah,

43:28

you have to go that way and Most

43:30

of us don't understand that mentality We

43:34

go left and we wonder why

43:36

we haven't fulfilled something in our lives is

43:39

because we continue to take the journey that is

43:41

mapped out and how

43:43

I look at is I I talk in

43:45

life like a Lot

43:48

of us in life want to take the four-lane highway That

43:51

has roadmaps and all this other stuff on it, man

43:53

tells you where to go gas stations The

43:56

next 10 miles up you can see a

43:58

McDonald's or Crackle Barrel. Yeah on

50:01

the human mind. There's

50:03

no cap. We cap it

50:05

ourselves. Wow. Is

50:07

there a cap on the human body? That's right. Is

50:10

there one? There, I,

50:15

I don't believe so. Because

50:19

one thing I found out was, I think for

50:21

several years I gave myself a way out. When

50:25

you were 300 pounds or? When I was 300 pounds, when

50:27

I was, all I had taught was 24

50:29

years old. I would climb

50:31

a mountain, I'd fall back down. I'd start climbing,

50:33

I'd fall back down for the first 24 years

50:35

of my life. I

50:38

went to my first Hell Week, my second Hell

50:40

Week, and then my third Hell Week came in

50:42

SEAL training, and the CO, Captain

50:44

Bowen, looked at me. I'm on crutches, I'm

50:46

all jacked up. He says, hey, this

50:49

is your last time you're gonna go through butts. This

50:52

is it. I had

50:54

several stress fractures. I

50:56

had double pneumonia. I was jacked up and he gave

50:58

me a few months to heal. He

51:00

said, this is your last time going through. I shouldn't

51:03

even let you go back through. Wow. I

51:05

started Navy SEAL training with stress

51:07

fractures. Stress

51:10

fractures, not shin splints. That's hard to finish.

51:12

Stress fractures. Starting the hardest training, the hardest

51:14

training in the world with stress fractures. And

51:18

this is when I started to not put

51:20

a cap on the body. If

51:22

the mind is there. Every morning

51:24

I wake up at three, 30 morning, four o'clock

51:26

in the morning, go to my dive cage, go

51:29

in there before anybody saw me, I get

51:31

duct tape. And I would tape from

51:33

my forefoot all the way up to

51:35

the middle of my calf. And I would put

51:38

two black socks on. And so

51:40

I ran not using the pivot. Oh my

51:42

gosh. And I ran my hip flexors. So

51:44

for the first 45 minutes to an hour,

51:47

I was in absolute excruciating

51:49

pain. But what motivated

51:51

me, through that whole

51:53

process, was

51:56

the fact that this

51:58

kid came from the that I'm

52:01

in the hardest training in the world in

52:03

the worst shape of my entire life. What

52:07

if I can graduate amongst these studs? All

52:11

these guys around me are studs. They're

52:15

stallions. They're gladiators in my class.

52:17

They're all healthy. Most of

52:19

them. They're not broken like this. They may have

52:21

some, you know, everybody's sick going through that training.

52:24

But if I can graduate, it

52:27

would change everything for me. If I can

52:29

start the hardest training in the world, broken

52:32

and graduate. So my mind fed

52:34

off of that. You are

52:36

now from the weakest man. You are

52:38

now the hardest man to ever live if you

52:41

can do this. If you

52:43

can do this. Life

52:45

is one big mind game. Yeah. And

52:47

you're playing it with yourself. Is it true? I

52:50

don't care. It

52:52

got me through the hardest training, starting

52:55

out broken. When most

52:57

people quit, I

52:59

had just started. Wow. And

53:01

when you take that mindset and you learn to flip

53:04

that around, that's

53:06

what made me powerful. And

53:09

my body followed. And three

53:11

months later, my stress

53:13

fractures were healed by running on

53:15

them. Calcifying

53:18

it just like. I never

53:20

had them since. I'm 43 years old. Wow.

53:23

I've been 7,000 miles in 2007. Haven't

53:25

had a stress fracture since. And

53:28

I'm not saying to do that. I'm

53:31

just saying that when the mind and the body

53:33

connect and you don't

53:35

give yourself a way out, the

53:37

only way out for me at that time was death. Wow.

53:41

I'm going to be a Navy SEAL. Or

53:44

I'm going to die. Or I'm going to die trying. Yeah. Period.

53:47

And my body said, Roger that. We're

53:51

going to get you through this. So

53:53

when the mind gives it no way

53:55

out, your body says, okay, I believe

53:57

you now. I have to heal. figure

54:00

this out with you. Yes. It's gonna be

54:03

the worst part of your life but we're

54:05

gonna you're gonna survive. We're gonna survive. Wow.

54:07

And as you hear in that hundred mile

54:09

race I did I started figuring out more

54:12

and more and more and more

54:14

about at the other end of

54:16

suffering is a life

54:19

that no one and I'm not talking about go out there

54:21

and kill yourself. Don't take these words

54:23

and flip them and say oh my god

54:25

no. It just

54:27

be uncomfortable. I call it suffering. Don't physically injure

54:29

yourself. Yes. Not saying that. And then be out

54:31

for six months. That's right. That's no good. That's

54:33

no good. I'm not saying I'm not saying do

54:36

what I did. Yeah. I was

54:38

in a spot that life forced me. I

54:41

had a choice. I had a choice to be

54:43

this guy or the guy that's in front of you. I

54:45

had choices. I chose this path.

54:47

And you're still choosing it. I'm still choosing it. You

54:49

can go back to that guy any moment. Because I

54:51

found out. I found out something

54:54

with those stress fractures. I found out

54:56

something through facing all these things. I

54:59

found out a whole nother world which

55:01

is why I walk around with all

55:03

my stuff in a black backpack. Wow. I found

55:06

it a whole nother way. A

55:08

whole nother way of no

55:11

matter how far you get in life you

55:14

have to be able to go back to scratching your

55:16

mind at a moment's

55:18

notice. You can never

55:21

get so far beyond scratch.

55:24

What that means is when you accomplish

55:26

something in life if you want to go back to scratch

55:29

and go back to that seven dollar a month place

55:31

where I once lived and visit that place

55:34

for a long period of time. If

55:36

you were here when you went back to scratch

55:38

you would now be here. Scratch

55:40

is what makes you better. Scratch

55:43

friction. Obstacles create

55:45

growth. There's no friction

55:48

when you're this far up in the game anymore. You

55:50

think there is. That's right. When you achieve so

55:53

much the friction is minor. Because

55:56

why? I'm sore. I'm gonna get a

55:58

massage today. I'm

56:00

hungry, I'm gonna eat today. The refreshment is

56:02

always full. So your comforts

56:05

are now, so your discomfort is

56:07

now very miniscule to your discomfort back

56:09

here in the $7 month place. So

56:12

you have to go back to the total

56:15

discomfort to then raise your

56:17

level of where you're at now.

56:19

I'm not saying stay there and stay there. Visit.

56:22

Visit it. And then you

56:25

raise your level. Take a day trip. That's

56:27

right. Yeah. Always take day trips.

56:29

Don't stay there. That's right. But take a day

56:31

trip. Take a day trip. So when you complete

56:34

some massive obstacle and challenge, whatever

56:36

the adversity that you force upon

56:38

yourself, because these are all curated

56:41

experiences for yourself. Right. That

56:43

you're scratching constantly. What happens now, since this was

56:45

five years ago, you would just leave, you wanna

56:48

take the medal, you would just go onto the

56:50

next. What happens now? Do

56:52

you take a day to reflect, a moment, 10

56:54

minutes, like how does the process work? And then

56:56

how do you get back to visiting the $7,

57:01

place you lived in? Now,

57:03

I don't have to go back and visit it.

57:06

I don't have to think about it. It lives with me now.

57:09

Every day of my damn life, that

57:13

feeling that I had to go back and think about,

57:16

I found a way this habit. How

57:19

did you? It's constantly there. I have a self

57:21

talk. I have a

57:23

self talk, it's called my cookie jar. And

57:26

it's a constant reminder of David Guy. Every

57:28

day of my life, I

57:30

believe in quiet. There's no growth

57:33

outside of quiet. The

57:36

world's too noisy. Your mind

57:38

needs quiet. For you to find who you

57:41

are, people ask, what's my purpose? Why

57:43

am I here? You're not gonna find it

57:45

nowadays, unless you lock yourself in a quiet

57:47

room in your mind, and

57:49

find it. It's too noisy. For

57:52

me, I could be in a busy street

57:54

in New York City, horns honking, and

57:57

I'm walking around with like

57:59

nothing. It's me and

58:01

myself in a quiet spot. And

58:04

when you are constantly reflecting on who

58:06

you are, where you've been, the journey

58:08

you've gone through, the journey you can

58:10

continue going through, the

58:13

feeling's always there. You

58:15

don't allow the world to pull you

58:17

so fast that you forget.

58:20

You don't allow yourself to pull you so fast

58:23

that you forget. It's not about staying in that

58:25

moment. It's about you

58:27

want to get to the point where that feeling follows

58:29

you like breathing. Because

58:33

a part of your life, part of your DNA. But

58:36

it's made, like these calluses on my hands

58:38

right now, they're made. They

58:41

are now all my brain. This is now a part

58:43

of me. It's a

58:45

daily process, a part of me. And

58:47

how I go back to the $7 mother place

58:51

all the time is now I

58:54

go out and I dig fireline. I'm a

58:56

wildland firefighter. I don't need to do it. I'm

58:59

a 43 year old man. I work with 27

59:01

year old kids. I'm a rookie.

59:04

Every day I'm a rookie it feels like. Why

59:07

do you do it? That's why I do it, man. There's

59:10

a story I'm going to tell you about why I do it. So

59:12

I make, I have a good living

59:14

now for me, where I'm at in my life. I

59:18

was out on a fire in Colorado and

59:21

we were digging fireline on this like 50%. It

59:24

was on the side of a dad going mountain.

59:27

And we're trying to keep the fire from moving and

59:29

we're digging this fireline 14 inches, or

59:32

my fault, 18 inches wide, three miles

59:34

long, 12 of us digging.

59:37

And it is the hardest work. You make $12

59:39

an hour. Okay? Nothing.

59:41

You set up your shop. Like when

59:44

you're done digging, you just pretty much lay down and you go to

59:46

sleep and you get up and you dig some more. Really?

59:48

It happens for two weeks long. What are you digging?

59:50

It's like a hole. So you're trying to get down

59:52

to a mineral source. So you try to get down

59:55

to the, to the earth. So, so

59:57

that if that fire is moving, it

59:59

can't. burning dirt. Really? So

1:00:01

you're moving fuels. Got it. So not

1:00:04

only are you digging, you're cutting down

1:00:06

trees. It's hard work. But the moral

1:00:08

of the story is I'm 43. Don't need to

1:00:10

do it at all. This is why I do it.

1:00:12

You're making money. I'm making money. I have

1:00:14

a good life. I don't need to do it.

1:00:18

Everybody's asking why I do it. This is why. This

1:00:21

21 year old kid was out there and

1:00:24

he wanted a pair of running

1:00:26

shoes. So all he wanted was a pair of running shoes. 60,

1:00:31

70, 100 bucks to it, whatever. Easy for us.

1:00:33

Running shoes. He

1:00:35

looked up at the mountain that

1:00:38

we had been on for days digging this fire

1:00:40

line. And he said

1:00:42

that would take me five or six hours of work to buy

1:00:44

those shoes. Said I'm not gonna buy them.

1:00:47

It's the perspective of life. That

1:00:49

perspective of life right there, that

1:00:53

is the value that we lose.

1:00:56

When things start to come so easy in

1:00:58

life, it's

1:01:01

the perspective that 21 year old had and

1:01:03

looked about that mountain and thought, he looked

1:01:05

at his hands, he looked at the amount

1:01:07

of hours of pulling that Pulaski, that tool

1:01:09

and raking that ground and then

1:01:11

cutting those trees and moving them. That hours

1:01:14

of work, he looked at his feet and

1:01:16

said these old shoes would do. It's

1:01:20

that perspective in life that we lose. And

1:01:23

that story that most people may not mean

1:01:25

anything. It's that story

1:01:27

I always wanna have in my life. You

1:01:30

cannot lose perspective of

1:01:33

where you've come in life. Yeah. So

1:01:36

true. We were in Guatemala, was it this year

1:01:38

or last year? Last year. We

1:01:40

were in Guatemala last year. We support a

1:01:42

charity called Pencil and Promise that builds schools

1:01:45

for kids who live in poverty and all

1:01:47

around the world. And every

1:01:49

year I take a trip to

1:01:51

just see where our efforts are being felt and

1:01:54

being made. And

1:01:56

these are the poorest places in Guatemala,

1:01:59

Laos and Ghana. places, they

1:02:01

have nothing. There's no schools, there are

1:02:03

little villages, they live on dirt, huts,

1:02:05

everything, right? And we

1:02:08

go and we build these schools. We actually,

1:02:11

the villages build them themselves, we just fund

1:02:13

the experience and we empower them to do

1:02:15

it so that they take

1:02:17

ownership of it. But I'll

1:02:19

be there for a few days and watch these kids so

1:02:21

happy with just like a pencil. Just

1:02:23

so happy to just like have

1:02:26

their family around and they'll go and they'll

1:02:28

show us their huts and like they're just

1:02:30

so happy to have community. And then I'll

1:02:32

fly back and

1:02:34

go through Beverly Hills right over here and

1:02:36

I'll see like these mansions, I

1:02:39

live right next to it. And

1:02:41

I'm just like, it gives me so much perspective of like,

1:02:44

you don't need to have all these things to

1:02:46

find peace and joy and connection

1:02:49

and intimacy and all these other things that

1:02:51

we want. You don't need these big mansions

1:02:54

and to live in this nice place. I like

1:02:56

living here but it's not like, it's

1:02:59

perspective for me is what keeps me motivated as

1:03:01

well to keep doing the

1:03:03

right things, to keep showing up, to keep working

1:03:06

hard. And I think it's

1:03:08

right, most of us miss that perspective in life.

1:03:10

We get so far away from reality. So far.

1:03:13

And the reality is man, when I was seven

1:03:16

years old, eight years old, all I wanted was

1:03:18

a 99 cent quarter pounder from

1:03:20

parties. I know, right? And that made me

1:03:22

happy as hell. Some curly fries. That's it,

1:03:24

man. That's it. Yeah,

1:03:27

the thing is a lot of us have been conditioned

1:03:30

or some of us grew up with

1:03:32

wealth or grew up with comfort. And so

1:03:34

we're conditioned that way. And we're grew up

1:03:36

expecting now that things should come

1:03:38

a lot easier. Right, that's a damn

1:03:40

shame. And we get frustrated

1:03:43

when we don't get it right. That's

1:03:45

right, quickly. Quickly. Yes. Yeah, and I'm

1:03:47

always talking about delayed gratification. Like the

1:03:49

longer I can wait to receive gratification,

1:03:52

the more fulfilled I am. I'm a person.

1:03:55

So when I got sick, like I did, I

1:03:58

actually had to quit this race called Bad One. Yeah,

1:04:00

135 miles in. Yep, through Death Valley. It was 2014,

1:04:02

I got real real bad. I

1:04:06

pulled out of the race at mile 50. I

1:04:08

went to the emergency room and the

1:04:11

docks were like, you know, we can't find this, we can't find that, we

1:04:13

know what's wrong with you. When I got

1:04:15

in that bed, so this is the crazy thing

1:04:18

about gratification. Long-term. Mm-hmm.

1:04:21

I'm able to watch grass grow by finding out

1:04:23

this. I sat there,

1:04:26

couldn't run a quarter mile, couldn't

1:04:28

get out of bed. The

1:04:30

only thought I had in my mind, I pulled

1:04:33

out of that race. I told myself, I'm

1:04:36

gonna go back to Badwater one day and rent it. I'm

1:04:38

gonna win the race. Haven't

1:04:40

been back since. Haven't

1:04:43

been back since. 2019,

1:04:46

I'm not saying I'm gonna win it. I'm just now

1:04:48

in the shape to go back. Wow. Haven't

1:04:51

won a hundred mile race since 2014. Wow.

1:04:53

Because I've been that sick. I'm

1:04:56

just now. Imagine the gratification I'm gonna

1:04:58

get by getting to the start line of that race.

1:05:01

And what if I can win it? It'd be

1:05:03

pretty sweet. Pretty sweet. Four or five years. Yeah.

1:05:07

I'm having that kind of discipline

1:05:09

that everyday wake up and

1:05:11

having these setbacks where I can't even run a mile.

1:05:13

Wow. But I'm thinking about running 135. I

1:05:17

can't run one mile about

1:05:20

thinking about running 135. And with

1:05:23

that process, guess what happens? Sooner

1:05:26

or later, you can run 10 miles. It

1:05:28

may take a year, but it gives

1:05:30

you more and more hope that it's possible. And

1:05:33

I'm at the point now where guess what? It's

1:05:35

right around the corner. Wow. Most people in

1:05:37

that time frame, in that mindset, I

1:05:41

can't run anymore. It's over. No.

1:05:45

This just could take a little bit longer. You

1:05:47

have to turn the negative into a positive. Mm-hmm.

1:05:49

Because at the end of it all, if you

1:05:52

can sit back and wait, if you

1:05:54

can wait 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12 years, when

1:05:58

you get to that point, when you finish, That's

1:06:01

the feeling for 12 years. That's it. It says it

1:06:03

takes 12 years to get there. That's

1:06:05

what keeps you going is you gotta feel, I

1:06:08

want, I'm doing it for one second.

1:06:11

Mm. Ha ha ha. Years

1:06:14

are paid. For one second. One

1:06:19

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1:06:21

about it. Wow. You cross the finish

1:06:23

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then they're pissed and upset and they keep going

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on to the next because they never reflect back

1:07:21

on what they did. It's not the one second,

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it's the 12 years. Yeah. It's

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the 12 years that

1:07:28

I want. It's not the race, it's

1:07:31

the 12 years why

1:07:34

you did it. It's not the

1:07:36

winning. It's not the winning. It's not what place you got. No.

1:07:39

But most of us focus on, That's right. Oh,

1:07:41

I gotta win this. That's right. If I

1:07:43

don't, I'm gonna be upset. I would achieve all

1:07:45

my athletic goals for years and

1:07:47

then 10 minutes later be the angriest person in

1:07:49

the world. That's right. So angry and frustrated. Nasty

1:07:52

with people. Yep. I've been in

1:07:54

my gratification for years to achieve what I wanted. That's

1:07:56

right. And I never understood that

1:07:58

either. Being a perfectionist. We're

1:20:00

sitting down right now, we're using the hip flexor muscle.

1:20:04

When you're under stress, as I was my whole life,

1:20:06

by being afraid of my father being tight, your

1:20:09

whole body is tight. Then I choose a job like being an A

1:20:11

to C, it's even tighter. And

1:20:13

then I put myself under stress. It's

1:20:15

just tightening, tightening, tightening. It's a vice grip.

1:20:19

And you need healthy blood flow through your body. I

1:20:21

wasn't getting any of that. So I put

1:20:23

so hard in life, people say, oh, because you

1:20:25

ran so much. No. Sorry.

1:20:28

Emotional stress. Yes, emotional stress

1:20:31

made me just tight. So

1:20:33

now, I couldn't sit down here

1:20:35

for 10 seconds. And I was

1:20:37

like, I was wound. What that's done

1:20:40

to me is allow me to be even more open minded. I

1:20:45

stretch out, I get my body linked in

1:20:47

out. It lengthens my mind out, the possibilities

1:20:49

out. I calm myself down. So

1:20:51

during the morning time, I build the armor.

1:20:54

I face the world. Because

1:20:56

now I know there's going to be some disappointments along

1:20:59

the way every day. That's life. But

1:21:02

if you face disappointments already in

1:21:04

victory, the things I can control is I

1:21:07

can control my run. I can control

1:21:09

how my house looks, how my world

1:21:11

is. I can control that. So I've won.

1:21:13

Open my door of life. Life

1:21:15

starts to beat me down. I'm facing it with

1:21:17

the body armor that I created. And

1:21:20

now I'm facing life with the proper

1:21:22

tools. Unlike I

1:21:25

hit this news button. I'm running late. My house

1:21:27

is a mess. My mind is a mess. Now

1:21:30

life's already beat you. So

1:21:32

you open the door and now life hits you and

1:21:34

you're already frustrated. You're already in

1:21:36

that anxiety mode. You're stressed already.

1:21:39

And then life starts to power more on

1:21:41

top of you. You get home, you're exhausted.

1:21:43

And that's how life happens to everyone. You

1:21:47

have to live and win what

1:21:49

you can and build the body

1:21:51

armor. Start callousing the mind so

1:21:53

you're ready for combat outside of

1:21:55

your house. Because that's going to

1:21:57

come. And that's what I realized at a young

1:22:00

age. age. I had no body armor.

1:22:02

I had no callus. So

1:22:05

when life came at me, I ran.

1:22:07

I tucked. I

1:22:09

lived in the fetal position trying to get away

1:22:11

from life. I wasn't

1:22:14

protected. I didn't protect myself. I

1:22:16

had nothing. So I started realizing I

1:22:18

got a form of armor. So

1:22:21

I'm going to have to lie to

1:22:23

you to make you like me. So

1:22:25

I'm not approaching people feeling insecure, saying

1:22:28

I have all these material things I don't have.

1:22:31

When you have that body armor, you

1:22:33

tell people, hey, man, I'm not real smart. But

1:22:36

I try real hard. I'm not

1:22:39

the fat. I won't win this race, man. But I've

1:22:41

been running for the last four years every day. That's

1:22:43

pretty good. Yeah. That's the mentality

1:22:46

that you need to have. Yeah. Look

1:22:48

at people knowing I know you and

1:22:50

everybody else has issues. So

1:22:53

why am I, why

1:22:55

am I worried about how anybody thinks to me?

1:22:57

We're all in the same boat here. Some boats

1:22:59

may be bigger than others, but

1:23:01

we all have problems. So

1:23:05

be it. We're all in the same boat.

1:23:07

Yeah. Some of us are willing to not

1:23:10

lie about it. Yeah. I'm at

1:23:12

that point now where I no longer care. Because why, why

1:23:14

can I go on here and tell people how fucked up

1:23:16

I am? Because I

1:23:18

faced them. The

1:23:20

new one where to define who I am. Yeah. It's

1:23:23

not me. It was me. But I'm controlling

1:23:25

you anymore. Yeah. When

1:23:28

you're training in the morning or training at night

1:23:30

or stretching at night, what are

1:23:32

you visualizing or thinking about? Nothing.

1:23:37

When I'm training in the morning time and it's

1:23:39

a run for an hour and a half in

1:23:41

the gym and sometimes it's longer calisthenics have stuff

1:23:43

or an hour to an hour and a half

1:23:46

is the minimum. Yeah. If I'm

1:23:48

doing like a, like a hundred mile race, it was,

1:23:50

you know, like now I'm starting to build my miles

1:23:52

back up. Come training for a race in January, you

1:23:55

know, that could be two, two and a half, three hours. Then

1:23:58

once I come home from that, it's right in the gym. Hunt

1:26:00

me. You are now

1:26:02

drinking the Kool-Aid. A lot of people write books

1:26:04

on self-help, mental toughness,

1:26:06

all this crap. Half

1:26:09

of them are living up

1:26:11

to that standard. Half

1:26:14

of them are living up to that standard. You

1:26:17

have to be able to practice what you

1:26:19

preach. It has to be what you are.

1:26:22

That's why we feel like, my God, when you speak on stuff,

1:26:24

it's so passionate because you're making me

1:26:26

relive my life. It's

1:26:28

not a comfortable life. This

1:26:30

life was made. This life was earned.

1:26:33

And if people like it, great, if not, so be it. At

1:26:36

nighttime, I think about nothing. When

1:26:39

you're stretching or when you're- Everyone's stretching. That's

1:26:41

my time. That's

1:26:44

my time to sit

1:26:46

back and recharge for tomorrow.

1:26:50

Because why this is not, mental

1:26:52

toughness is not a class. We

1:26:55

had this class that they

1:26:57

designed. Eat

1:26:59

it all from one by that time. Self-talk,

1:27:02

visualization, arousal

1:27:05

control. It's

1:27:07

all great. It's all

1:27:09

great. It has

1:27:11

to be a lifestyle. Yeah. You

1:27:15

work on mental callousing

1:27:18

on a daily basis. Because

1:27:20

your, even though your brain, your mind,

1:27:23

your brain isn't a muscle so much, you

1:27:26

will lose it. You will lose the

1:27:28

ability to suffer in the worst of times if

1:27:31

you come out of it for too long. If

1:27:35

you can lift 315 pounds, and

1:27:38

you stop going to the gym for a month, I

1:27:40

guarantee you won't be able to pick the same weight up again.

1:27:43

All the stories I talked about today, all

1:27:46

the things in that book, if

1:27:48

I went and said, I'm good, I

1:27:54

gained all this knowledge. If

1:27:57

I stop today, the knowledge is

1:27:59

gone. Yeah. I have

1:28:01

to go back deep to retrieve it. I don't want

1:28:03

to go back deep to retrieve it. I

1:28:06

want to be able to call on it now. That's

1:28:08

why I do these things. I know with

1:28:11

not doing them will get me. Right,

1:28:13

right. There's so much

1:28:15

more I want to ask you, but I want to

1:28:18

try to wrap it up here with three final questions.

1:28:21

I didn't even get to any of the questions I had on here

1:28:23

because I'm just so inspired by everything. But

1:28:26

if you guys haven't picked this up yet, you can

1:28:28

pre-order it right now. Again,

1:28:30

can't hurt me. Master your mind

1:28:33

and defy the odds. Make sure you guys get

1:28:35

this book. Get a few copies for friends. Give

1:28:37

them out as gifts. This will be one of the most powerful things

1:28:39

you give to someone. This

1:28:42

is called, actually, I'm curious about, I

1:28:44

asked you about the greatest lesson from your mom,

1:28:46

but I'm curious, what's the greatest lesson your dad

1:28:48

taught you, whether he actually said it or you

1:28:50

observed it? I

1:28:52

observed it. Or what not to

1:28:54

do, or yeah. So I observed it

1:28:57

from my dad. When

1:28:59

I left, I was young. I had

1:29:01

a young man's, a young kid's point of

1:29:03

view on my father. So

1:29:06

when I was 22 at 300 pounds, I

1:29:10

went back to see my dad. Because

1:29:13

I wanted to make sure that what I saw

1:29:15

at eight is

1:29:19

the same, it's my father. I

1:29:22

don't want to not talk to my father. No matter

1:29:24

what he did. I don't know what

1:29:27

I saw, but was it through a young kid's eyes? So

1:29:29

at 22, I went back. And

1:29:32

I was able to examine him as a man,

1:29:37

as a fragile man that I was. But

1:29:39

I was able to examine him. And

1:29:42

through this process, so by this

1:29:44

point in my life, I was examining myself and

1:29:47

realizing I have a whole mess of problems.

1:29:50

Big time. Some were

1:29:53

from him. Some were for people that

1:29:55

bullied me. A lot were for me.

1:29:58

And in knowing how messed up I was, I was I

1:30:01

was able to examine everybody around me I examined

1:30:04

him and I

1:30:08

examined him to know my god the

1:30:10

insecurities that you must have the problems

1:30:12

that you must have inside of you

1:30:14

I Don't want to have those

1:30:16

I Come

1:30:18

from my father I Have

1:30:21

what he has hmm, and

1:30:24

I didn't want to be him I Why

1:30:27

he made fun of me my brother

1:30:30

why he beat the hell out of me my brother my

1:30:32

mom It comes from

1:30:34

a dark place an insecure dark dark

1:30:36

place why he women eyes why he

1:30:38

sold Prostitutes why he ran pro all

1:30:40

this stuff he did a Good

1:30:43

human being doesn't need to

1:30:46

do that a fulfilled human being Doesn't

1:30:49

need to break anyone down all

1:30:51

they do is want to build you up So

1:30:54

anybody you meet That calls

1:30:56

you out of your name that bullies

1:30:58

you that messes you up that that makes you

1:31:00

feel Not

1:31:03

lifted they are dealing

1:31:05

with something deep-rooted Yeah,

1:31:08

you have to have a tough tone with some people

1:31:10

to help them out. There's a difference

1:31:13

you have to be hard I'm hard on people, but

1:31:15

it comes from a good place. Yeah The

1:31:18

biggest lesson he taught me was how not to be

1:31:21

and that's why I had to fix what

1:31:24

I was I because Insecurities

1:31:28

make everybody around you feel like hell, and

1:31:30

that's the one thing I did

1:31:33

not want anyone to feel like That's why I just no

1:31:35

one tons of whites have called me here.

1:31:38

I've been tons of people have hurt me

1:31:40

I Judge no

1:31:42

one because I know where it comes

1:31:44

from Mmm, I know you

1:31:48

I was once you That's

1:31:50

why now the place I'm at You

1:31:53

get a get out of jail free car you need

1:31:55

to help yourself You ain't bullying

1:31:57

me man, right? You're fine. You're I'm good.

1:31:59

Whatever you throw I

1:34:00

get through a process. You rate it, yeah. Yes,

1:34:02

it goes in the rating program. Got it,

1:34:05

powerful. This is

1:34:07

called the three truths. I asked this

1:34:09

question to everyone at the end. It's called the three

1:34:11

truths. Imagine

1:34:15

it is your last day and you

1:34:17

get to pick the day whenever you want. You get to live as

1:34:19

long as you want. You pick the day, but

1:34:21

it's time for your body to go, right? You've

1:34:24

created everything you wanna create. You've

1:34:27

been at 99 percentile of potential for as

1:34:29

long as you can live. You've

1:34:31

done it all. You've checked off the list and

1:34:33

everything that God says that you were supposed

1:34:35

to do. It's happened. Written

1:34:38

the books, everything you wanna do, done. But

1:34:40

for whatever reason, you've gotta take all of

1:34:43

your written word and videos and audio

1:34:45

stuff that's out in the world. You've gotta take it

1:34:47

with you. But you

1:34:49

get to write down on a piece of paper the three

1:34:52

things you know to be true about all of your experiences.

1:34:54

And this is what you would leave behind. The

1:34:56

three lessons or what I like to call

1:34:58

the three truths. What would you

1:35:00

say are your three truths? The first one is you

1:35:03

are your own hero. You

1:35:06

are your own leader. You are your own master. And

1:35:09

that is a big one because we

1:35:12

idolize so many people and

1:35:14

we wanna be them. We

1:35:16

wanna be someone else. And

1:35:19

in doing that, you lose all

1:35:21

the potential of who you are. You

1:35:24

mimic, you be them,

1:35:26

you are them, you become them

1:35:29

and you lose you. And

1:35:32

we look up to so many people in this world who

1:35:34

will let us down. We're humans. I'm

1:35:36

gonna let you down. You're gonna let somebody down.

1:35:39

And you put them on a pedestal, you then lose

1:35:41

time when that person comes up and lets you down.

1:35:45

You must hold yourself accountable and being your own

1:35:47

hero, that's what that does. You

1:35:50

make yourself so totally

1:35:52

accountable for who you are. You

1:35:54

focus on you and only on

1:35:56

you to become the

1:35:58

best person you could be for others. because

1:36:00

we leave a lot on the table, not

1:36:03

searching who we are. And

1:36:05

then therefore you die not knowing

1:36:07

your greatest potential. Right. That's

1:36:11

one. That's one. The

1:36:14

next one I would say is, the

1:36:18

biggest one I would say is never pick

1:36:21

the easy road. Never,

1:36:24

never. And it always goes back to

1:36:26

kind of that, the hero mentality, never

1:36:29

pick the easy road, ever

1:36:31

in your life. That is the

1:36:34

one road that is doom. It

1:36:37

is doom. If you want

1:36:40

something like six minute abs, all these different

1:36:42

things, if you want it so fast, you

1:36:45

may achieve what you wanted, but

1:36:48

you want the permanent fix. The

1:36:51

permanent fix comes from the hard road.

1:36:54

The hard road gives you permanent

1:36:56

results. The

1:36:58

easy road gives you the quick fix.

1:37:01

You will go back to where you started on

1:37:03

the easy route. That

1:37:06

hard route is so permanent that

1:37:09

it ends up callous in you everywhere,

1:37:12

everywhere. Keep a six pack forever.

1:37:14

You keep it. Because you know the work that

1:37:16

goes into it. Yeah. And

1:37:19

the last one is, when you

1:37:21

get to where you want to go

1:37:23

in life, when you finally get there, you finally

1:37:25

reached that point, and

1:37:28

you're there, and you're happy as

1:37:30

hell, realize this, you're

1:37:35

not there yet. When

1:37:38

you get that feeling that you arrived,

1:37:41

be afraid. Be

1:37:44

truly afraid. Because now

1:37:46

you start to do this. Slowly

1:37:49

die. Slowly die. Either

1:37:51

you're getting better or you're getting worse. You're

1:37:53

not staying the same. Yeah. So

1:37:56

when you get to where you think the journey has ended, and

1:37:59

you're sitting back. a

1:42:00

20 some year career, every shot. You can

1:42:02

go back and say, I was here. This

1:42:05

person was in the red shirt there. Greatness

1:42:08

is being so aware of the time

1:42:10

of life and

1:42:14

the second that went by, and you

1:42:16

can recall like it was yesterday. Greatness

1:42:18

is being able to go back there not

1:42:21

making that same mistake again and being

1:42:23

haunted by it. That

1:42:25

is greatness. Mm, David Goggins,

1:42:28

thanks, man. Appreciate you, man. Thank you.

1:42:30

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