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well which is good to see. Yeah

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it is good to see. It is good to

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see. There is a part of me. Is this all

1:04

right? Look to the ceiling and consider. Look

1:07

to the ceiling. Look to the ceiling. There

1:09

is a part of me where I think this is

1:11

all too rotten for a woman to watch. That

1:13

is not to remove agency for

1:15

women, that's not to say they're

1:17

not allowed to enjoy some dirty

1:19

things in life. Sure, sure. There

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are times when you and I

1:23

started defining cuckold, applying it to

1:25

men like Bebo. To tick-tockers. I

1:28

wouldn't want my daughter watching this.

1:30

You know, there's like, I mean,

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there's a rising crop of like

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only fan stars who really use

1:36

social media. Yes. There's the Lily

1:38

Phillips. Right. who we've referenced on

1:40

his podcast before. She's not

1:42

BVoe's girlfriend. No, no. So

1:44

Lily Phillips, she's a very

1:46

posh girl. Right. Who was involved in

1:49

Soho Yacht Club? Did all those. I

1:51

think it's Soho Yacht Club. They're

1:53

the guys who did that video

1:55

around Not downhill carnival of like,

1:57

Timmy, yeah, what are you doing?

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I don't remember that though. Another week,

2:01

another subject, another week. I've just been

2:04

throwing the pill around with pigsy. Oh

2:06

God, that sounds real like asteroid hit

2:08

the air stuff. She's involved with them.

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She's also friends with H.S. Tickey Tocki.

2:12

Okay, who we've talked about? Who we've

2:14

talked about? She went viral a couple

2:17

of weeks ago because she slept with

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a hundred men in a day. In

2:21

a day? and then and call me

2:23

approved but that feels like a lot

2:25

yeah and then and she was like

2:27

I want to do a thousand in

2:30

a day and the really grim thing

2:32

I mean the really grim thing is

2:34

she made this like tick-tock video I

2:36

think we should do a patron special

2:38

what we talk about this maybe not

2:40

she did this video where you know

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she's got a bedroom set up as

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a set up as a set And

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she's like, my name's Lily Phillips and

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I'm going to sleep with 100 men

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today. And here they all are. And

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she doesn't show their faces, but she

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kind of shows them all queued up

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in this cue. And then there's, yeah,

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and I don't know, there's a cue,

3:02

yeah, there's a cue going down the

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corridor of this Airbnb that they've rented.

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And then there's a lot of people

3:09

who commented on that being like. what

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would her parents think and that's how

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i feel when i think about young

3:15

women listening to this podcast he's rather

3:17

than have a cue that what the

3:19

cue around the Airbnb but there's her

3:22

there's Lily Phillips she's an only fan

3:24

star who does the content like that

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then there's another one and I think

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it's real but you can't actually tell

3:30

right And again, this does sound like

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I'm saying all this as a kind

3:35

of like, I just watched this content

3:37

to talk about on the podcast side.

3:39

If you see any of this in

3:41

my history on my laptop, don't you?

3:43

The Metropolitan Police, yeah. I'm doing research

3:45

for the podcast. Yeah, yeah. There's another

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one. Her name's Bonnie. And she's, again,

3:50

an only fan star, but her kind

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of tick-top content. She, she, she kind

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of cues men up outside of a

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flat or a room or whatever she's

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got. And she's got the sort of

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box-pock mite. And she'll go, hi, what's

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your name? And, and blurred face on

4:05

the men. And she'll go, how much

4:07

would you love to spend two minutes

4:09

with me? and he's like, right right

4:11

right that's what I'm here for I've

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queued up I'll sign to the NDA

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I'm really excited for that and she

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goes what would you do to me

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and he's like and it's so cringe

4:22

they because they actually they're really horny

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these men they're like let's just say

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I'll show you in the room and

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then and then they disappear into a

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room together and then she does a

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kind of after into it. Oh right.

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You know, it's quite funny because Sky

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Sports are now saying they're going to

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do this kind of thing. That's a

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new thing. Sky's out there. They want

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to do interviews with players, you know,

4:46

at half time. So that's kind of

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what she's doing. But it is, it

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is so grim and she's had... It

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feels like that kind of stuff's been

4:55

quite normalized quite quick. Again, I'm wary

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of sounding like a prude or like...

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I don't know, but it's just, because

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these kind of things are popping up

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in quite mainstream circles now as well,

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right? Because what they've realised is that

5:08

if they create this kind of shock

5:10

content, they're viral on Twitter. Right. You

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know, people going, wow, this is disgusting.

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Right. That's the kind of like vocal

5:16

quote tweet. right but then also there'll

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be enough like men who are like

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yeah it's disgusting how do I watch

5:23

it? so they really reach for the

5:25

kind of they want to go viral

5:27

they want to shock as much as

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possible because then then more people will

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sign up to the content and like

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she this bonny girl who does the

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kind of you know what would you

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do to me in two minutes right

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there's been clips of that where She'll

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have like two mates who've traveled to

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wherever this is together. Oh, the lads

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know each other. They're pals who've stood

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up in a queue together. And what's

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so funny, there was one I watched

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the other day when it was two

5:55

pals, and it was like, right, me

5:57

first, oh yeah. And what was... So

6:00

funny is that these two guys, they're

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like, they're like, they're dressed for a

6:04

night out, in a way that only

6:06

lads can in a kind of like

6:08

clean pair of rarlin chinos and like

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a penguin polo top. And the best

6:13

thing was, they've got themselves two corrodes

6:15

for the Q. It's

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clearly the middle of the day. It's

6:21

clearly the middle of the day. You

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and your mate have done like an

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away day to London to go and

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sleep with an only fan star, where

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she's gonna interview you before and

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after for Tiktong. And at

6:34

some point you've gone beer

6:36

for the cube. Men are

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fucking class. Men, dudes, dudes,

6:40

rock. Also presumably like. Obviously

6:43

the face is blurred or whatever and the

6:45

voices change. But like... The voices change. The

6:47

voices not change. And it's not blurred enough.

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Yeah. Is that Craig? Yeah, oh God, yeah.

6:51

I mean, and I mean, like again, I

6:53

do have a sort of 10% is this

6:55

real. We didn't know where we're going to

6:57

talk about this. No, no, no. How long

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have we done? Talking about a family. Do

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you reckon it feels too, like

7:03

you say, like you say, it

7:05

feels too specifically specifically engineered engineered.

7:08

Like that scenario you said to like shock

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people. Caught and get quite to it because

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there have been some, I mean there's one

7:14

that's bad where... She'll be like, I

7:16

know if you're wearing a wedding

7:18

ring, are you married? And he'll

7:20

be like, yeah, your face is

7:22

blurred, right? And she's like, yeah,

7:24

I think so, your girlfriend doesn't

7:27

have Twitter, does she? And he's

7:29

like, no, no, no, I don't

7:31

after he's like, that was, yeah,

7:33

I'd love to come and see

7:35

you. Oh, mate, please. The worst

7:37

one. This is like, you're fucking

7:39

trying to put me in a

7:42

depression where you can see this

7:44

happening. but she's on a podcast. I mean

7:46

it's fucking... I think my life is mad

7:48

because I do so many podcasts. Like only

7:50

fans girls are just like, oh right, am

7:52

I shagging today on my podcast and I

7:54

think on podcasting? She has done a podcast

7:56

and again I do feel like these things

7:58

are somewhat manufactured of like... The amount of

8:00

podcast clips that will go viral of

8:02

people on the internet going god-only fans

8:04

go is a Shameless nowadays, right? But

8:06

it's this girl called Bonnie again, and

8:09

she's talking about how she cues men

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up for two minutes with her and

8:13

interviews and interviews them before and after

8:15

and she and she's talking to this

8:17

other girl who's interviewing her and she

8:19

goes Yeah, the madest one was when

8:21

there was a father and son in

8:23

the kids. I've seen this But it's

8:25

she's on quite a famous podcast, isn't

8:27

she? I recognize what I recognize. I

8:29

recognize the the other person on the

8:31

podcast is not like a sex or

8:33

only fans podcast. No, no, I think

8:35

I've seen her interview like famous people.

8:37

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's like a famous

8:39

person. And so that was kind of,

8:41

I remember, yeah, I can't remember if

8:43

someone had tweeted it being like. When

8:45

did it become normal for them to

8:47

be? It's like, I think it's like

8:49

a Spotify original as well, I might

8:51

be wrong. But yeah, that was what,

8:53

do you know what I mean? It's

8:55

like, if you were Spotify and you'd

8:57

be like, all right, are you interviewing

8:59

this week love? And it's like, yeah,

9:01

we've got the woman who queues up.

9:03

And doesn't she say it's like a

9:06

father and son turn up together? Oh

9:08

my God. This is such a thing,

9:10

this happens to often is because I

9:12

shouldn't know this. No. She says that

9:14

the son had a bigger penis but

9:16

the father was better in bed. And

9:18

like you're watching this. And my Twitter

9:20

timeline is quite interesting, right? Because as

9:22

I said before, I'm getting this shit,

9:24

yeah. I'm also, and again, I'm frightened

9:26

by this, but I am getting a

9:28

lot of Tommy Robinson support stuff that

9:30

I think is trying to goad me

9:32

into engagement. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the

9:34

thing is, what will be interesting is,

9:36

I'll see a clip like that, and

9:38

then I'll see some like Tommy Robinson

9:40

support being like, like, Shirei O'L is

9:42

coming, and I wouldn't mind it right

9:44

now. If that would stop this, if

9:46

like very harsh Islamic conservatism would stop

9:48

this happening, I think the truth might

9:50

be somewhere in the middle. Yeah, I'm

9:52

not sure I want Sharia law, but

9:54

I'm not... I don't know if I

9:56

want anyone's head cut off, but if

9:58

this, if I could stop viewing this.

10:00

Yeah, I don't, while I'm eating my

10:03

fucking cornflakes. But this is the thing,

10:05

it's like, I don't know, maybe I'm,

10:07

maybe we are committing some kind of.

10:09

We're maybe we're not being sex positive

10:11

enough? I don't know. Yeah, the thing

10:13

is, I think she should be allowed

10:15

to have as much sex as she

10:17

wants and I hope she can do

10:19

it in a safe way. For God's

10:21

sake, I hope she's testing these fucking

10:23

men. They must be, shortly. I don't

10:25

know. Apparently there was a podcast where

10:27

she was like, now they just wear

10:29

condoms, not enough though. Yeah. I don't

10:31

want to know about. And maybe it's

10:33

an issue with Twitter. I don't know.

10:35

That's why I think that's why you're

10:37

right is that the reason that this

10:39

stuff is becoming present is because Twitter

10:41

specifically is that's what. is the hook

10:43

is if you do something incredibly shocking

10:45

which in this case maybe they aren't

10:47

even doing it maybe they aren't having

10:49

like I reckon it's bollocks and I

10:51

reckon we're the mugs for sitting there

10:53

getting outraged about it and committing 10

10:55

minutes of the start of a podcast

10:57

one day you just also that I

11:00

mean do you know the worst possible

11:02

thing of that is if like I

11:04

know what you're gonna say if one

11:06

of our listeners no okay go on

11:08

what let's here you're worst case scenario

11:10

and I'll tell you get home to

11:12

my flat in East London and I

11:14

start going up the stairs and then

11:16

there's a cue of blokes on the

11:18

stairs and I'm like oh what's going

11:20

on here and then why is there

11:22

a cue blokes outside is there something

11:24

to I know that they're like a

11:26

tradesman doing work yeah I know that

11:28

Nick Nek door mentioned he was going

11:30

to use Airbnb while he was away

11:32

for a couple of weeks what's going

11:34

on in there I don't worry love

11:36

they're all just queuing up to have

11:38

sex with an only fan star Do

11:40

you know the comedian Julian Dean? Yes,

11:42

I do. He's a very funny man.

11:44

Yeah, yeah. I recommend the two vegan

11:46

idiots podcast him and Cardinal. The original

11:48

thing of Lily Phillips being like, I'm

11:50

sleeping with 100 men today, here's all

11:52

their feet outside the area where I'm

11:54

going to shag them all. He quote

11:57

tweeted that being like, this is my...

11:59

My wife, I can't hear what she's

12:01

saying because my airports are broken. Can

12:03

someone please tell me what she's saying?

12:07

My worst case scenario my worst

12:09

case scenario with us committing the

12:11

intro to this point I don't

12:13

know how we've done this No

12:16

my worst case do we want

12:18

to do this my worst case

12:20

scenario and I'm worried that me

12:22

saying this is going to tempt

12:24

it into existence even more is

12:27

that we talk about this some

12:29

dirty curious rotter goes what are

12:31

they on about Bonnie Lily Phillips?

12:33

Huh-huh where's the only fans league

12:36

and then we've probably got some

12:38

stuff The dream! I mean also

12:40

the fucking level of podcast inception.

12:42

A content creator went on a

12:44

podcast to talk about the content

12:47

creators who do podcast about content

12:49

creation found the podcast about the

12:51

content creation spoke about it on

12:53

their podcast and now a load

12:55

of horny rotters are buying their

12:58

fucking only fans. The world is

13:00

broken. Bring on the asteroids. Bring

13:02

on the asteroids. Come see me

13:04

on tour. Don't subscribe to our

13:06

patron if you want more of

13:09

this book. Don't cancel us for

13:11

being not sex positive enough. I'm

13:13

for it. I'm against it. I

13:15

don't care. I just don't want

13:17

to know about this stuff anymore.

13:20

It's making me feel so sad.

13:22

All the women can have all

13:24

the sex they want. Make them

13:26

too whatever they like. Please don't

13:28

tell us about it. I just

13:31

don't make me feel happy imagining

13:33

those people. I think there was

13:35

a game on today, let's go.

13:37

People boast those pictures and they're

13:39

sat on the train and they've

13:42

got all the beers on the

13:44

train and they're like Lily Phillips

13:46

away. A train table full of

13:48

coronas. Yeah, I was going to

13:50

say that they've got paroni and

13:53

potemones crisp. Someone goes, must be

13:55

full of fans. They've got a

13:57

flag, a flat, an England flag,

13:59

like tape. to the train window

14:01

behind them. It's got

14:04

the only, it's got the

14:06

only fan sign. Oh my

14:08

god, that is the most

14:10

horrendous thing in the world.

14:12

It's got lads in the

14:14

queue, flags for like loot

14:17

and town. All doing the

14:19

Bosch sign. Houserie! Houserie!

14:22

She's one. It's

14:26

becoming so normalised we're not that

14:29

far away from it. It's my

14:31

stag do next year and I'm

14:33

fucking terrified where my mates are

14:35

taking me. I guess it's fine I'm for

14:37

it I'm against it I'm whatever you

14:40

want I don't think it's bad to

14:42

talk about it I don't like talking

14:44

about it we're not laughing at them

14:46

we're laughing who cares who cares I

14:48

don't know I just want it all

14:50

to be over and I don't mean

14:52

the podcast I mean all of it

14:54

I want an asteroid to

14:57

hit the earth. The subject of

14:59

this podcast is so

15:01

unrelated to this but

15:03

also so related to

15:06

this. It's true. I'm

15:08

not sure we can

15:10

release this. Can we?

15:12

How long is this? 15

15:15

minutes. God, this is either

15:17

going to be really well

15:19

received or really not well

15:22

received. Do you reckon it

15:24

even makes any sense? Come

15:26

on, we've got to get on

15:28

with this now. Oh my

15:31

God. Ladies and gentlemen, we're

15:33

not talking about... We're never

15:35

going to speak about... This

15:37

is why we don't talk

15:40

about female content, okay? Because

15:42

we come up with things

15:44

like Lily Phillips away. Oh man,

15:46

I don't even know their names.

15:49

This week, we're talking about Big

15:51

AJ and the... No, what are

15:53

they called? This week we're talking

15:55

about... The Rizzla. AJ Bafumo and

15:57

his son Big Justice and their...

16:00

friend the Rizzler boom! I keep

16:02

calling them AJ and the Justice.

16:04

Big Justice and AJ. AJ and

16:06

Big Justice. The Father Sun combo,

16:08

kind of, duo from America who

16:10

do boom. They are, now we've

16:12

sort of spoken about content that

16:14

upsets us in the intro of

16:16

this book. Yes. I, this has

16:18

been one, we. So on our

16:20

patron we allow the top-tier patrons

16:22

to suggest people for us to

16:24

talk about Yes, what we often

16:26

do is we'll sort of take

16:28

all the people they suggest and

16:30

we'll do a little poll and

16:32

say who wants which one and

16:34

all the patrons vote on that

16:36

the 399 is as well and

16:38

we talk about who they with

16:40

this one It was just suggested

16:42

so many times. Yeah, then they

16:44

did a big TV appearance where

16:46

we went, you know, well, let's

16:48

just fucking do it Yeah, I

16:50

try and hide myself For videos

16:52

of Lily Phillips and Bonnie the

16:54

only fans interviewing father-son duos before

16:56

they sleep with them because I

16:58

Find children being I was about

17:00

to say the word forced to

17:02

make content. Yeah By law children

17:04

cannot actually give consent, so I

17:06

think they are being forced Yeah,

17:08

right is it is it is

17:10

always difficult with child labor. I

17:12

find it to know right what

17:14

like like you say No, no,

17:16

no, no, no. The factory full

17:18

of Chinese children love sewing. Yeah,

17:20

yeah, they'd be doing this anyway.

17:22

AJ a big justice in the

17:24

rich love doing videos that make

17:26

their dad a lot of money.

17:28

Yeah, I find this really ugly.

17:30

I don't want to lay into

17:32

them too much because there's bits

17:34

of it I do like actually,

17:36

right? There's bits of the kind

17:38

of thing, I like them as

17:40

guys, I actually think they're good.

17:42

Yeah, yeah, very positive. Yeah, we'll

17:44

get into it. I hate that

17:46

they're kids and and the kind

17:48

of thing I think I'm going

17:50

to try and work and just

17:52

kind of... What I want to

17:54

get across from this episode, that

17:56

boy. Mm. Big Justice. Big Justice.

17:58

Insane name for a boy. Amazing

18:00

name. I was called Faz at

18:02

school. Feral. Feral. I know it

18:04

wasn't really that often used. I

18:06

always wanted a nickname. If I

18:08

was wondering around my Catholic school

18:10

and people were calling me Big

18:12

Justice. Fucking hell. Okay, but here's

18:14

the thing. What I was sort

18:16

of getting to was like, I

18:18

think it's ugly that he's coercing

18:20

the kid into making content and

18:22

using phrases like, do subscribe! You

18:24

know, stuff like that. I'm like,

18:26

wow. We're not sure, like you

18:28

say, it's really difficult to tell

18:30

how much. Okay, yeah. So here's

18:32

the thing, right? It's a big

18:34

guy from Florida, although they speak

18:36

in New Jersey accidents. They are

18:38

from New Jersey, but they live

18:40

in Boca Raton in Florida. That's

18:42

it. Okay, so they're from New

18:44

Jersey. They sound very sopranos. They

18:46

do. They live in Florida. It's

18:48

a big guy dad who apparently

18:50

this is like his fifth or

18:52

sixth attempt at going viral and

18:54

becoming a content creator. Oh dear.

18:56

And he's got the boy involved,

18:58

his son. They also have just

19:00

another boy involved now, which we'll

19:02

get to later, which we'll get

19:05

to later, which we'll get to,

19:07

which feels even we'll, which feels

19:09

even we'll, which feels even we're

19:11

even we're even we're even we're

19:13

even we're even we're. I think

19:15

it's ugly that the kid is

19:17

in this. I think it's weird

19:19

that the kid is in the

19:21

content and I don't think, I

19:23

think the boy knows way too

19:25

much about the riggers of social

19:27

media and he's been completely corrupted.

19:29

And this is, in doing my

19:31

research on AJ and Big Justice,

19:33

which we do, by the way,

19:35

by that you mean reading one

19:37

article on it. It made me

19:39

feel, I thought it was very

19:41

old fashioned, it's very old fashioned,

19:43

and it's a thing that we've

19:45

talked about quite a lot over

19:47

the course of this podcast, which

19:49

is that previously, the way that

19:51

people like this would have been

19:53

introduced into the national consciousness, I

19:55

don't know if you remember someone,

19:57

do you remember Honeyboo Child, do

19:59

you remember her? It was like,

20:01

again, a super viral thing for

20:03

a very short space of time,

20:05

she was on a TV show

20:07

that was about young... beauty queens

20:09

like oh fuck yeah and she

20:11

became very famous it was about

20:13

a it was like a reality

20:15

TV show about these these kind

20:17

of nine ten-year-old girls and their

20:19

moms and dads who would put

20:21

them into beauty pageants and she

20:23

was just one of the cast

20:25

on there but she went very

20:27

viral I couldn't really remember what

20:29

she was about I could just

20:31

remember the name it was like

20:33

about ten years ago yeah but

20:35

like at that time it still

20:37

required exploitative TV company X to

20:39

come in and mediate between the

20:41

audience and the subject and make

20:43

them look bad or make them

20:45

look silly and make them go

20:47

viral on some kind of hideous

20:49

like Channel 5 reality TV show

20:51

for about six months. What's interesting

20:53

about AJ and Big Justices, they've

20:55

done that. to themselves. I mean

20:57

I use this literally every three

20:59

weeks I'll say this phrase but

21:01

it is the porn thing. The

21:03

porn thing. There's no there's no

21:05

nasty producer, no camera, just the

21:07

audience. Lily Phillips is choosing to

21:09

be nasty. Lily Phillips is choosing

21:11

to sleep with a hundred men

21:13

and show us their shoes. Right.

21:15

But yeah and AJ Big Justice

21:17

are unmediated by Endermore or by

21:19

the TV company. They're a slave

21:21

to their own desire for higher

21:23

numbers and higher revenues and higher

21:25

revenues. I didn't know that about

21:27

the dad either either but it.

21:29

make so much sense that it's

21:31

like he's just kind of throwing

21:33

enough tic-tocks at the wall and

21:35

seeing what sticks. Ross McCarthy is

21:37

one of our one of our

21:39

patrons good friend of the podcast

21:41

and yeah he's like I've been

21:43

obsessed with these guys for a

21:45

while the dad has had five

21:47

or six goes at getting this

21:49

big and it's yeah using the

21:51

boy has done it oh wow

21:53

yeah there's there's a couple of

21:55

things For what I will I

21:57

want to start with some positives

21:59

there are things. Should we watch

22:01

a video? Let's actually let's do

22:03

that because this is the video

22:05

that made them go viral and

22:07

you'll recognize it feels like this

22:10

is the speed of internet the

22:12

warp speed of internet culture They're

22:14

using a meme format that You'll

22:16

remember, but already feels like it's 100

22:18

years old. Yeah, I think this is

22:20

only a couple of months ago. It's

22:22

not that long ago, but it already

22:25

feels like it's 100 years old. So

22:27

this is what blew them up. This

22:29

is what blew them up. And interestingly,

22:31

it blew them up. But this

22:33

is AJ and Big Justice in

22:35

Costco. We're Costco, guys. Of course

22:37

we have to try the new

22:40

double chunk chocolate cookie. We're Costco,

22:42

guys. Of course we have to try

22:44

out the furniture. Almost 90 seconds long,

22:46

I think. We're Costco, guys. Of course,

22:48

we work out with the tires. It's

22:50

one of the most boring things I've

22:53

ever seen, I think. We're Costco,

22:55

guys. The delivery is so strange.

22:57

Every TV in the place every time

22:59

we come in. The walks away. Of course

23:01

we get the sample, even though we bought

23:04

the thing the last three times we

23:06

were here. I guarantee you can set

23:08

that lines. We're Costco, guys. Of course

23:10

we cool off in the milk fridge.

23:12

We're Costco guys. I'm still eating

23:14

my chicken bake. Oh, okay, big

23:16

justice. We're Costco, guys. Of course

23:18

we throw paper towels. We're Costco,

23:20

guys. Of course we need 13

23:23

and a half pounds of meat.

23:25

Oh my God. We're Costco, guys. If

23:27

these things are out, we're going to

23:29

throw them. It feels like it's

23:31

never going to end. Let's not

23:33

be any more small ones. I

23:36

think that might do us. So

23:38

that's what made them kind of

23:40

spike and go viral. and like

23:42

you say there's a really

23:44

clear calculating thing there

23:46

they're following a meme

23:48

format yeah the chicken bacon

23:50

the double chock chunk cookie

23:52

that's stuck that's still part

23:54

of their catch raises the

23:57

duck the chock chick chock

23:59

chunk cookie Yeah, they loved that.

24:01

And when I watched it, do you

24:03

know what they really remind me of?

24:05

Stavros Flatley. Fuck yeah! Do you remember

24:08

Stavros? That is the British equivalent. Yeah.

24:10

Yeah. Yeah, okay. Let's, right, okay. Now,

24:12

yes, hang on. You've turned into Mike

24:14

Porky Parry, you agree with them, so

24:17

go. Okay, yeah, sure, yes, yes, yes.

24:19

Yes, yes, bang on, in a few

24:21

ways. First of all, the performative father-son

24:23

duo, I would say a lot sweet

24:26

and with Stavros Flatley. This feels very,

24:28

very, very, very manufactured. Yeah, very American.

24:30

Yeah, and as I say, there's one

24:32

line where we get a sad believer

24:35

though we've eaten a thing a hundred

24:37

times. I guarantee you had to try

24:39

a million times to finish that. Well,

24:42

we're going to watch a video that

24:44

shows that. Let me say some things.

24:46

about these guys, the kind of applies

24:48

to Stavros flatly that I do like

24:51

about them. Do you know there's that

24:53

Drake meme? And it's from the Hotline

24:55

Bling video. Yes. Where it's like, one

24:57

thing, it's like, oh. Get away from

25:00

me? One thing, it's like, yes. Bang

25:02

on, A-OK. So here's one thing I

25:04

think about with those. And it's a

25:06

wider point, but and it's a cultural

25:09

thing, and I'm not sure. Right. Second

25:11

generation immigrant Americans. Right, I see what

25:13

you mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Americans? No,

25:15

no, not really. Second generation immigrant Americans.

25:18

I fucking love those guys and anything

25:20

by the way yeah these guys I

25:22

assume Italian America they doubt they do

25:25

have Italian heritage but I like all

25:27

of them right and any kind of

25:29

second-generation migrant family in America or further

25:31

whatever it is I love it they

25:34

love you right okay these are obviously

25:36

New Jersey move down south so so

25:38

obviously the thing what I get when

25:40

I look at these guys I think

25:43

sopranos right when I when I when

25:45

I watch I think of I think

25:47

of I think of I mean AJ

25:49

the name the name the names right

25:52

there The irony is, the difference in

25:54

the way they behave. I can imagine,

25:56

you know what I think of sometimes

25:58

when I watch these guys, the dad's

26:01

called AJ. If Sopranos wasn't made 20

26:03

years ago in the mid-noughties. If the

26:05

Sopranos was made now in 2024, I

26:08

could genuinely imagine a kind of like

26:10

B-plot Soprano storyline where AJ works for

26:12

Tony, he's quite a good worker, he

26:14

becomes a made man, and then Tony

26:17

finds one of these videos on TikToks

26:19

and finds him and fucking strangers into

26:21

death. There is a hundred percent likelihood

26:23

that in the Sopranos if the Sopranos

26:26

are made today AJ would be doing

26:28

a video around the mansion and be

26:30

going we're Italian-Americans. Of course we'd gather

26:32

gold. Is it Tony Sun? Yeah, yeah,

26:35

and he'd go, what the fuck are

26:37

you doing? I'm making a Tiktok dad,

26:39

you know, I'm fucking a Tiktok, fucking,

26:41

then he goes, he's just fucking Tiktok.

26:44

What's this guy? He became a made

26:46

man last week. He's making fucking ticktocks.

26:48

Pauli walnuts would do his fucking... Pauli

26:51

would be fuming. And they'd kill him.

26:53

Agent, you're taking ticktucks of a criminal

26:55

fucking conspiracy! What the fuck is a

26:57

big justice! You can't call him big

27:00

justice and pat him on the back

27:02

for eating cookies. He needs to fucking

27:04

lose weight! I know. I think that

27:06

that would happen nowadays and an AJ

27:09

and Big Justice are, they've hit on

27:11

this formula of like this kind of

27:13

dead pan, well not dead pan delivery,

27:15

but like robotic delivery of this. I

27:18

think it's very blue pizza. Do you

27:20

know it's funny, I did a, ugh,

27:22

it's a long story. So always the

27:24

way, I try and do a quick

27:27

reference in to add something to tag

27:29

something on. And here we go for

27:31

six minutes, who only fans again is

27:34

it? No, I did, so I do

27:36

voice work sometimes, right? And I did

27:38

a, so there's a toy that kids

27:40

can get nowadays called a Tony box.

27:43

It's essentially a blue tea box. You

27:45

don't have to tell me about Tony

27:47

box. Do you know what it is?

27:49

My nephew's got one and he loves

27:52

it. They're fucking great. It's kind of

27:54

like podcasts for kids. You basically buy

27:56

them this, like big red, it's essentially

27:58

a Bluetooth speaker. And you can buy

28:01

them these figurines of like, kind of

28:03

like stories they would know or TV

28:05

shows. You can get poor patrol ones,

28:07

bluey, frozen, and you pop it on

28:10

top of the speaker and it will

28:12

sort of sound out an episode. It

28:14

would do, it would sort of tell

28:17

a story in the voices and stuff

28:19

like that. So they, I mean, I

28:21

just auditioned to do a voice for

28:23

the box for the box itself. Well

28:26

I think I might be... Still it's

28:28

still in the midst? Yeah, kind of,

28:30

yeah. Okay. Basically, it meant I had

28:32

to do performative kid speak. Right. Right?

28:35

I had to do... Hey guys, today

28:37

it's Tony's joke of the day. Today

28:39

I'm going to be telling you a

28:41

joke about spiders. The crazy thing about

28:44

spiders, they are actually not insects. Do

28:46

you know what they're called guys? They're

28:48

called Arachnids. Right? I do some voice

28:50

ads. I do do a lot of

28:53

adverts. But, like, the funny thing is,

28:55

I was in this, like, you know,

28:57

like, voice studio in Soho. Right. With

29:00

this fucking, I don't mind saying, Nutty

29:02

Produce. Okay. Not gonna get the job

29:04

now, but... Yeah, I'm just thinking that,

29:06

actually. Oh, no, no, I don't care.

29:09

Yeah, she didn't work for two. Yeah,

29:11

she was mad right and she was

29:13

really being like can you give us

29:15

more of a smile on that Jacob?

29:18

And she was basically being like be

29:20

more blue pizza right more and the

29:22

thing is anyone who's got kids will

29:24

know You don't actually talk to kids

29:27

like that right and the more you

29:29

do like like like the whole Hey,

29:31

big justice you want to come get

29:33

a cookie? In reality if you spoke

29:36

to a kid like that it really

29:38

puts them off right I've got a

29:40

mate, I got one mate, I won't

29:43

say it is, but he, when my,

29:45

when my, when my kids were young,

29:47

when they were like sort of two,

29:49

he would talk to them and he

29:52

thought that was the voice to talk

29:54

to children, he'd be like, hey guys,

29:56

how's it going? and he'd go for

29:58

a hug and they'd just be like

30:01

what? Right right right they can sense

30:03

that something's off. Well do you know

30:05

my mate Ollie? Yes now, hmm let's

30:07

talk to him, but Ollie, Ollie can't

30:10

doesn't do any of that. Ollie, Ollie

30:12

literally speaks to children the way he

30:14

speaks to me which is no eye

30:16

contact open with a fist bump. My

30:19

kids love it. Rubbing

30:21

his hands together, oh I can't say,

30:24

they love this bump, they love it.

30:26

Well I think they're really intrigued by

30:28

what's going on, what is that massive

30:31

man behaving like we do? Yeah right.

30:33

The thing is, what I'm getting at

30:35

is the voice that they speak in,

30:38

they are Big Justice, boom! It's like...

30:40

No one kids don't want to talk

30:42

like that. Yeah, and it's funny that

30:44

that translates on TikTok in a way

30:47

because I guess it's like the strangeness

30:49

of it is what people are reacting

30:51

to It's like we talked about yeah

30:54

across the course of this absolutely various

30:56

ways I guess it's the shock or

30:58

the oddness of it that brings people

31:01

in and then keeps them there But

31:03

this kind of oh, this is very

31:05

different to the norm right this American

31:08

act is like very is very is

31:10

very mad, but like you say that

31:12

doesn't come without a price because we've

31:14

then, did they put this video up?

31:17

This is a behind the scenes of

31:19

them making the video. So in this

31:21

video, they're doing another video in Costco,

31:24

but I actually really like that they

31:26

love Costco. That's cool, I rate that.

31:28

That is also a, it's really interesting,

31:31

you mentioned Stavros Flatly as a comparison.

31:33

I use Costco sometimes, I know in

31:35

America it's a lot of like, like,

31:37

You know Italian American families will use

31:40

it, African American families. And even in

31:42

the UK there's a big one up

31:44

in Edmonton. Right. And I only go,

31:47

because my mate Simon, who is like

31:49

Edmonton native and Greek Cypriot family. Yeah.

31:51

His family have just always had Costco

31:54

cards. And it's like other people I

31:56

know who are kind of like indigenous

31:58

Londoners. Like the only people I know

32:01

who've got Costco cards are like indigenous

32:03

London. who parents were born elsewhere, or

32:05

whose parents were born elsewhere. I do

32:07

not know, and tell me if you

32:10

know different to this, I do not

32:12

know one home county's white guy whose

32:14

family have a Costco card. Would you

32:17

agree? My auntie does. My auntie does.

32:19

My auntie does, but there was one

32:21

in Bushy where she lived. So that

32:24

was, I think that

32:26

was a product of

32:28

it. I can definitely

32:31

see that Costco is

32:33

appealing to people that

32:35

work hard and know

32:38

the value of a

32:40

pound note. Which is

32:43

oftentimes, like you say.

32:45

I love Costco as

32:47

a result as do

32:50

AJ and Big Justice

32:52

and I'm glad that

32:55

we... Like you say, I'm

32:57

glad that they're putting forward Costco as

32:59

a thing to be like it's not chicken

33:01

baked so nice It's also a cool place

33:04

to walk around Yeah, do you like

33:06

just quickly say one thing so as we

33:08

talk about it I'm sort of reliving

33:10

that last video in my head Is

33:12

the dad's AJ the dad is AJ the

33:14

son is big justice? He has a physique

33:16

that I can only describe as American

33:19

the dad does yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's

33:21

Hench, but also kind of not fat?

33:23

Yeah, I can't tell what he is. He's

33:25

like, he's just big. I actually, and they're

33:27

whole, they talk a lot about how much

33:30

they like going to the gym. Yeah, they

33:32

do. I actually, and this is like, this

33:34

would have happened, I wouldn't mind looking

33:36

like that feels very like dad, that

33:38

feels very like, dad strong to me.

33:41

Yeah, it's kind of like like, like

33:43

Andrew Mar, I've got long arms. long

33:45

arms and a short body. I like,

33:47

yeah, I don't think I could ever look

33:50

like that. And I'm in no

33:52

shape to criticize anyone's body, but

33:54

like, it's even like Joe Rogan. Yeah.

33:56

You know how Joe Rogan has got

33:58

a four pack? Yes. But that's unbelievable

34:00

when he's got a jumper on. Yeah, it

34:03

just doesn't look quite right, is it? There's

34:05

something like... I think when you've got a

34:07

thick neck, it just, like, it triggers something

34:09

where you're like, oh, is that guy fat

34:11

or is he, like, built? It's difficult to

34:13

tell. Yeah, he definitely strong. But how's his

34:15

heart? I think that's the thing with that

34:17

American physique. It's like, I think you're, I

34:19

suspect you're incredibly strong. But how's your heart?

34:21

I think you're going to have heart problems

34:23

really young. Says the man is currently waiting

34:25

on some scan results for his heart. Who's

34:27

got an electro bong in his bag? I

34:29

think he leaked this. Oh, I see. So

34:31

this is a behind the scenes. And like,

34:33

given what we've just talked about, you know,

34:35

that's like, carry on. But this, I don't

34:37

know, like I say, if they published this

34:39

video, or if it was someone else that

34:41

was there when they were filming. So my

34:43

suspicion, so in this video, they've got some

34:46

guest, God knows who he was. Yeah. And

34:48

I think he leaked this. This is a

34:50

behind the scenes. behind the curtain moment. Oh

34:52

God. So AJ there dad AJ is really

34:54

directing traffic there, isn't he? And there's a

34:56

point where he kind of admonishes the sun

34:58

He doesn't do it very he's not aggressive

35:00

or he's not sure not at all but

35:02

it does just give you the sense even

35:04

though he's not being aggressive and he's not

35:06

shouting at him It's just like This

35:08

kid should be playing

35:10

with his mates. They

35:12

say, yeah, like my

35:14

parental guilt and parental

35:16

guilt is just you.

35:18

One hell of a

35:20

drug. My, my, I

35:22

don't struggle with anything

35:24

as much as I

35:26

struggle with the guilt.

35:29

I feel sometimes about

35:31

parenting and I don't

35:33

think I'm a bad

35:35

parent. I think everyone

35:37

gets things wrong sometimes.

35:39

But like, yeah, I

35:41

watched that the way

35:43

he spoke to his

35:45

son there. There is

35:47

nothing wrong with that

35:49

if that's his son,

35:51

I don't know, behaving

35:53

in a way that's

35:55

somewhat unsafe next to

35:57

a road. Yes. Right.

35:59

If that's his son.

36:01

No, no, no, you

36:03

can't cross there. You've

36:05

got to cross at

36:07

the Pelican crossing. Come

36:09

on, come on, mate.

36:12

No, no, no, seriously,

36:14

seriously, come on. It's

36:16

fine if you're doing

36:18

that in a way

36:20

that, I don't know,

36:22

you have to keep

36:24

him safe if it's

36:26

something to do with

36:28

his schooling. If it's

36:30

a fundamental of looking

36:32

after your kid, then

36:34

there is nothing wrong

36:36

with speaking to a

36:38

child like that. I

36:40

think it's in the

36:42

aid of creating content

36:44

and hoping to go

36:46

viral in a way

36:48

that builds your TikTok

36:50

following. Yes. I think

36:52

that's when that's an

36:55

ugly way to speak

36:57

to a kid. Here's

37:00

the thing that I discovered about

37:02

this family, because I was watching this,

37:04

and the thing that I find

37:06

really ugly with all of it, as

37:08

I say, there's things I like,

37:10

New Jersey accents, telling an American family

37:12

who appreciate a bit of a

37:14

deal at Costco, fuck yeah, chicken bake,

37:16

cookies, course, like all that, all

37:18

good. The boom thing, it's kind of

37:20

Christian, the boom thing. There's a

37:23

real Christian energy to it. Yeah, there's

37:25

a wholesome energy to it. I

37:27

sort of was watching and I was like,

37:29

I've got be honest, I was watching it

37:31

and his son's got braces in some of

37:33

them. And I was

37:36

like, fuck it, you know, there'll be

37:38

times, and we'll watch something in a

37:40

minute, that the son uses words like,

37:42

subscribe to get more content or stuff

37:44

like that, or uses words like, and

37:47

then things like subscribe, like real kind

37:49

of like social media jargon that you

37:51

don't, the eye cringe when I have

37:53

to say Right, right, right. And I

37:55

was like, God, that 14 -year -old is

37:57

as clueless social media as I am.

37:59

Then I did some research some reading that boys

38:02

11 that is and that's when

38:04

I was like oh that's a

38:06

primary school kid yeah that's

38:08

when it's fucked yeah that's when

38:11

I'm like this is actually

38:13

fucked like like so like

38:15

my my daughter was in

38:18

preschool about to start primary

38:20

school reception next year like

38:22

so I go to my you know I drop

38:24

my daughter off at primary

38:27

school every single day And

38:29

it was only when I realized he's

38:31

11 and that's primary school age. I

38:33

was like, imagine if I went to

38:36

the school my daughter goes to and

38:38

I saw like a dad and a

38:40

son doing this on the way in.

38:42

Right. I'd raise it. You'd be weird.

38:44

Weirdly out there. I would seriously raise

38:46

it as I can issue with people.

38:48

I'd be like, no, that's not on.

38:50

I obviously have a thing where like

38:52

I, you know, social media is a big

38:54

part of my job. Initially, I

38:56

was like, I don't want to

38:59

put my kids on there at

39:01

all, and then I was like,

39:03

come on, behave yourself, Jackie, you've

39:05

got like, you know, 30,000 follows

39:07

whatever, like, I don't think I

39:09

need to worry too much, do

39:11

you know what I mean? It's not

39:14

like a fucking Brad pitch, I'll

39:16

protect these kids. And so I

39:18

will put kids, bits of the

39:20

engagement range. Yeah, no way. And

39:23

like, you know, in terms of

39:25

like kids. I think nowadays it's kind

39:27

of just accepted that they are going

39:29

to get on social media. And the

39:32

kind of perceived wisdom is that like, so

39:34

long as you can keep them off of

39:36

a phone and off of all that until

39:38

secondary school, you've done right. the fact that

39:40

this kid is primary school age they've been

39:42

doing this for a while he's a social

39:44

media celebrity he's making the shit yeah he's

39:46

making the content and as you can see

39:48

by the urgency with which his dad is

39:50

like no no come on AJ get it

39:53

yeah it's a job it's a proper that

39:55

is a serious endeavor that they're under yeah yeah

39:57

and it's like it's fucked in the same way as like

39:59

if the dad had the boy I don't

40:01

know like working on site on a

40:03

Saturday at 11 you'd be like come

40:05

on mate yeah yeah yeah yeah it's

40:07

also yeah I think it is because

40:09

it's like the part of his was

40:12

like I'm sure they've made a shit

40:14

load of money out of brand deals

40:16

and whatever what the fuck does that

40:18

mean to the kid well hopefully they've

40:20

put it in some kind of trust

40:22

for him and he shouldn't he's like

40:24

Yeah, they should put it in and

40:26

trust because even things like, okay, we're

40:28

super viral, we'll make loads of money

40:31

now, we can buy a better car.

40:33

That's, he shouldn't understand that. He shouldn't

40:35

know that. A kid that age, there

40:37

should, and I know this isn't funny

40:39

by the way, there should be no

40:41

understanding of there being rewards for content

40:43

and engagement. There should be no, that

40:45

is so fucking day. And do you

40:47

know what I guarantee you'll happen with

40:50

this boy, 18 years old, he won't

40:52

have a social media. Yeah, yeah. I

40:54

pray and hope that that's what happens,

40:56

that what will happen, and I don't

40:58

doubt it would be a rocky road

41:00

with some unhappiness involved, but I hope

41:02

that what happens with the boy is

41:04

he'll get to an age and he'll

41:06

go, fuck this. Yeah, yeah. That's, um...

41:08

Did you know Steve had a madman?

41:11

Yeah. Very funny content creator who's on

41:13

like, he was big on Snapchat and

41:15

he does like filthy fellows and stuff.

41:17

Yeah, yeah, really funny guy, but like

41:19

he's, you know, he's been doing doing

41:21

doing doing doing doing doing doing it

41:23

for ten... maybe more than 10 years.

41:25

So he's got children that have kind

41:27

of grown up with it. And I

41:30

remember like watching one of his videos

41:32

a year or two ago where one

41:34

of his kids who's like a teenager

41:36

now like 16 or so he was

41:38

like, come on you got to do

41:40

your Twitter and Instagram. He was like,

41:42

no, no, I don't want dad. I've

41:44

decided not to. I remember thinking, God,

41:46

that's cool that this girl, he's like

41:49

16. has obviously watched her dad and

41:51

as I say I like Steve O

41:53

Kevin I like him and I respect

41:55

him and I think and I think

41:57

filthy fellows is one of the funniest

41:59

things on YouTube but like she's probably

42:01

seen her dad struggle being a slave

42:03

to the algorithm for years and as

42:05

it was gone wow fuck this and

42:08

and my only hope for big justice.

42:10

I don't know, what's your take? My

42:12

only hope for big justice, it's it,

42:14

geez. Go on, this is heartfelt, this

42:16

week, stick with it. I always think

42:18

I've lost my mind. What am I

42:20

talking about? My only hope for big

42:22

justice. This is sobering. Is that Costco

42:24

bring out a steak baked after him?

42:26

Is he gets out? Yeah. I don't

42:29

know, what's your take? I think that

42:31

this podcast at its best, but it's

42:33

really light-hearted when we're really laughing, when

42:35

we find enjoying it, and even the

42:37

stuff we dislike, we're having a real

42:39

laughter, taking it apart, and with this

42:41

one, with this one, I'm just finding

42:43

it ugly. I do think that, this

42:45

is what I mean by being old-fashioned

42:48

is like, the idea of the child

42:50

star that is exposed to... fame and

42:52

celebrity too young and then has a

42:54

difficult life is a tailor's oldest time.

42:56

It's a tailor's oldest celebrity itself. And

42:58

so the idea that you would seek

43:00

that out for your child is... In

43:02

sanity to me. Do you know, it's

43:04

funny, when you mention that honey boo-boo?

43:07

Yeah. It's quite an American thing. It's

43:09

very American, yeah. I feel like, I

43:11

don't doubt that there are, like, British

43:13

parents who seek out stardom and famous.

43:15

Yeah. Oh, there'll be people trying to

43:17

copy AJ and Big Justice right now.

43:19

British people. I mean, it's so great.

43:21

I guess our equivalent is the lad

43:23

baby family. Are their kids involved? Oh

43:26

yeah, yeah, yeah, big time, big time.

43:28

I mean, there's loads of them, man,

43:30

and I mean, the best ones are

43:32

the ones that fail. Once they're like

43:34

failing to make content with their kids,

43:36

it's funny. But that's the thing, that's

43:38

the thing, my, my view on it

43:40

is like, it's just, it feels like

43:42

the tick-tock version of a really old

43:45

story. And I'm really surprised in a

43:47

way that people have like, like, like,

43:49

like, like, let it carry on. I

43:51

just can't believe that they would encourage

43:53

it or allow it. What can they

43:55

do? I guess they can't do anything.

43:57

But he has got mainstream acceptance, but

43:59

I don't think we're going to watch

44:01

the video because it was too long,

44:03

but they've been on Jimmy Fallon and

44:06

stuff now. The establishment is welcoming, H.A.

44:08

Big Justice. Well, you say they're welcoming.

44:10

The reason I was going to watch

44:12

the Jimmy Fallon video, and I don't

44:14

think we will, because as you say,

44:16

it's just long and bleak and boring,

44:18

and it's... But Jimmy Fallon clearly hates

44:20

them. Yes. Jimmy Fallon clearly has no

44:22

respect for them. Which is a bit,

44:25

fucking rich, going from Jimmy Fallon, who

44:27

has had a succession of viral... I

44:29

can't... How dare they make me talk

44:31

to AJ and Big Justice? I'm an

44:33

artist. Do you ever watch any of

44:35

these American talk show hosts? No, I

44:37

watch clips of stuff every now and

44:39

again, but like, the mad thing is

44:41

that I only realize, obviously it's called

44:44

The Late Show, that they're all called

44:46

The Late Show, or even The Late,

44:48

Late Show. I think Cordon was on

44:50

after Fallon at one point. And I

44:52

think Fallon goes on every night, like

44:54

half 11. Every night? Yeah. It's like

44:56

four or five nights a week, every

44:58

week. This is why they've got our

45:00

baby. It's like the fucking Paul O'Grady

45:03

shows on every day. Yeah, and it's

45:05

on so late, and back in the

45:07

day, that would be like people would

45:09

go to bed after that show. People

45:11

would stay up every night or like

45:13

half midnight to watch. Fucking whoever it

45:15

was, I guess it was Jay Leno

45:17

when we were growing up. It's one

45:19

thing when you and I are like

45:21

befuddled by the Tiktok success of like

45:24

a viral family. We don't understand Jimmy

45:26

Fallon. So there's this TV show, right?

45:28

They'd be on, they call it the

45:30

late show. And it be on late

45:32

at night. Do you know, I'll tell

45:34

you, well, whenever I watch, I hear

45:36

that, I watch some of the shite

45:38

that fucking Cordon does over there. Even,

45:40

like, Jimmy Kimmel? Is that another one?

45:43

Yeah, no, he's been going for ages,

45:45

yeah. See all of this shit. So

45:47

they just have to have a lot

45:49

of content coming through the door. Do

45:51

you know what? It makes me so

45:53

patriotic, glossy floor talk show. Big time.

45:55

Fuck yeah. Parkinson interviewing Muhammad Ali. Wogan.

45:57

Wogan? Yeah. Fuck yeah. Was it Parkinson's

45:59

interview moment? Parkinson's did. And then like

46:02

Jamie T sat on it. He will

46:04

make that, that should not work. We've

46:06

got Tom Hiddleston in, he's unbelievable. He

46:08

is so good at his job. He

46:10

can work a sofa of Idris Elba,

46:12

Loliadafo, and fucking the rock. Yeah. And

46:14

he will make that work. And then

46:16

like Jamie T sat on it. He

46:18

will make that, that should not work.

46:21

We've got Tom Hiddleston in, we've got

46:23

Malala Yassave. and we've got someone out

46:25

of Corrie that's going to do something

46:27

for comic relief and Ramsey's there. I

46:29

mean, you're about to have the best

46:31

night of your life. Yeah, I watched

46:33

it when I was like a kind

46:35

of teenager and I'd say, you know,

46:37

when I say teens, I mean like

46:40

13 or 14, I'd stay up and

46:42

watch Wossi as my mom on a

46:44

Saturday. I think that might be the

46:46

happiest I've ever been on a Saturday

46:48

night and I've taken some chemicals in

46:50

my time. What's that there? And I

46:52

mean, what was great is when you'd

46:54

get you'd get ones where like you

46:56

were excited for Wassie because it's like,

46:58

oh, Wassie's mates with them. Yes. Ramsey,

47:01

Ramsey, Ramsey, they hit it on. Big

47:03

Boy, fuck me, you've been eating well,

47:05

haven't you? Huh? I'll tell you, Nick,

47:07

I mean, well, huh? I'll try to

47:09

get a city, you know, what's, what,

47:11

what, do you think, who would play

47:13

him in? This is remarkable. I don't

47:15

know if there's young people watching this.

47:17

Jonathan Ross was on at 1035 on

47:20

a Friday night every week on the

47:22

BBC for about 15 years. And it

47:24

was so coated. And it was so

47:26

good. And the group of people that

47:28

he would have, his house banned, were

47:30

for homosexual gentlemen. I mean, could we

47:32

just say, it's insane he had a

47:34

house banned? Yes. But he had a

47:36

house banned, and as you say, they

47:39

were for homosexual gentlemen. By the way,

47:41

Jimmy Fallon has the roots as his

47:43

roots as his roots sexual gentlemen. Wossie

47:45

had four homosexual gentlemen who were lovely

47:47

and they played the piano and sang

47:49

and I don't even know if I'm

47:51

allowed to use the word so I'm

47:53

gonna say no I they were caught

47:55

okay can I check that they're active

47:58

I think if they're active you can

48:00

use the word. And I think they

48:02

are still active. You can say a

48:04

band's name. Well, they're still

48:06

going. They called themselves this.

48:08

I think it's really important

48:10

to say that. Yes, you

48:12

can say that. Yes. Well,

48:14

I don't know if I'm... They called

48:17

the... They still going? No, don't

48:19

say it. They called four puffs

48:21

at a piano. How insane is

48:23

that? That is mad to

48:25

me that that was just allowed to

48:27

happen for the best part of 15

48:29

years. I mean, I think they had

48:31

a great time on there. They were

48:33

was his compatres. They were his... They

48:35

started in 2000. They disbanded in 2012,

48:37

however, due to renewed interest in the

48:40

band, they have recently started performing again

48:42

with successful shows at the Leadenhall Building

48:44

in London for the Outward Bound Trust

48:46

and also at the VNA for the

48:48

HIMCTP Awards. So how somehow we've got

48:50

from AJ and Big Justice to where

48:52

the four pubs and a piano was

48:54

still going? That was the best bit

48:56

of British television and it was, do

48:58

you know what was great? There were

49:00

times in the same way that Jimmy

49:02

Fallon didn't like AJ and Big Justice

49:05

and their other friend who... going to

49:07

get what's with me. There was one

49:09

so goated Wossie interview. He interviewed

49:11

Lady Garga right when she

49:13

was just becoming like a thing.

49:16

Yeah she came over when she's

49:18

doing the meat dress and stuff

49:20

like that. I think it was

49:23

just before meat dress but she

49:25

was wearing something insane. Huge, like

49:27

sunglasses on and she was she

49:30

was dressed like a fucking like

49:32

you know there's like... like wind-up

49:34

sort of music boxes kids

49:37

actually. She was dressed like

49:39

a doll from that. And

49:41

she sort of walked on

49:43

stage, barely walked because the

49:45

high heels were so high. And

49:47

she had this weird porcelain teacup

49:50

and a tea and a saucer.

49:52

And she's promoting an album

49:54

and Wossie, my God, he's

49:56

grafting. He's trying to get

49:58

a go in. the album mrs

50:00

cargo you know I've heard of some good tracks on there

50:02

you want to tell us a bit about the album she's

50:04

like it's a great album Okay, so yeah,

50:07

you started in Los Angeles,

50:09

well, and he's fucking, he's doing,

50:11

he's not, and he just about

50:13

manages to, I reckon they graft

50:15

at the edit, but he doesn't

50:17

quite tell her to fuck off,

50:20

she applauds her off, she applauds

50:22

her off, she's back to the

50:24

green room, where, you know, Hoosier,

50:26

a sat leg, and the best,

50:28

I think, I think the next

50:30

week he had like a bit

50:32

of a thing where he was...

50:35

seriously wound up by Gargard. Right.

50:37

Let's say it was jibase, it

50:39

might have been Ramsey, I can't remember

50:41

who was, whoever it was, came on with

50:43

a teacup and sauce. Amazing, that's so good.

50:45

Was he came around the sofa, got it,

50:48

and fucking smashed it on the floor. Those

50:50

were the days. That is goated to you,

50:52

that is class, back to eight, look. What

50:54

was it for Lady Gargard and stuff as

50:56

well, they're coming over, in the, in Fallon,

50:59

Fallon is like in a huge TV show or

51:01

Leno or whatever. There's like a 10-piece house band

51:03

there. There's like lights and smoke machines, whatever. They

51:05

come over here. It's Jonathan Ross with an old

51:07

antique sofa and a band called Four Puffs in

51:09

a Piano. No wonder she was like, what the

51:11

fuck is going on here. But think about what

51:13

it'd be nowadays. If Lady Gargow was released an

51:16

album in 2024 and she had to do a

51:18

sort of like press run in the UK. She

51:20

has to do chicken chicken shop date with that

51:22

fucking shop date with that fucking... Amelia Doldenberg,

51:24

daughter of millionaires, who got knows what they've done with their money over

51:26

the years, sit there and eat. She don't be on the air, she'll

51:28

eat hot wings. That thin versus the internet thing, we took the piss

51:30

out of her, do you ever have that? How long ago was it?

51:32

A couple of years ago, I think he used it as a trailer.

51:34

Oh, well he like clipped it as though he was on the show. Yes, very

51:37

good. At the end he goes. At the end he goes.

51:39

At the end. So what was about chicken shops, chicken shops

51:41

that made, chicken shops that made, did, did, did, did, did,

51:43

did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did,

51:45

did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did,

51:47

did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did,

51:49

did, did, did, did, did, did I remember that now. Oh

51:51

my God. Did that not get any traction? Did that not

51:53

get any heat at the time? I think when you rose

51:55

someone that hard, they can't say anything. It's tough. The heat,

51:57

yeah. Nowadays, if someone came to the UK and did a

51:59

press... it'd be that and then they'll

52:01

have to go and meet old

52:04

Acaster and gamble. Poppin' are so

52:06

bragued! I can't wait for the

52:08

days when Jayda Pinkett Smith's coming

52:10

on screen, wrote to talk about

52:12

AJ a big justice. So, uh,

52:14

beaver, huh? Well, let's get on

52:16

to the next part. Can I

52:18

say with the next part? Yes.

52:20

I've sat here in genuine earnest

52:22

disgust at the monetisation and coaching

52:24

of an 11-year-old being forced to

52:26

make social social social content. So

52:28

what did they did they did

52:30

they do? Uh, everyone. This kid

52:32

is is? I think he's like

52:34

nine, isn't he? He's younger than

52:36

that. Is he actually? Ladies and

52:38

gentlemen, if you've not heard about

52:40

this person before, you're about to

52:43

have a before and after moment.

52:45

There is before your life, and

52:47

there is after your life, when

52:49

you have met the risler. It's

52:51

AJ! Big Justice! And the ris!

52:53

And you don't want to miss

52:55

our stream tomorrow night Wednesday. Again

52:57

lots of blue Peter kind of

52:59

nodding smiling. What are we going

53:01

to talk about? Boom in the

53:03

wild. We got boom of the

53:05

week. We got win the meat

53:07

Rizzle. You're going to try and

53:09

win the meat. You're going to

53:11

win. You're definitely going to win.

53:13

Hey, Rizzle. What did we bring

53:15

in? Some of the best food

53:17

anywhere. Give it. So they are

53:19

begging people to watch a twitch

53:22

stream of them. One thing I

53:24

know is showing up just for

53:26

that, right? So don't forget, it's

53:28

tomorrow night, Wednesday, September 11th, 8

53:30

p.m. Easter, so what's your stream?

53:32

That's what's going on in the

53:34

Twitch channel? That will do for

53:36

that. So they are begging people

53:38

to watch a twitch stream of

53:40

them. Right. One thing I know

53:42

is at the end though, they

53:44

say the twitch stream will be

53:46

happening tomorrow, September the 11th. Yeah.

53:48

I was just waiting for them

53:50

to be like, this is our

53:52

memorial twitch stream for the people

53:54

that died on 9-11. We'll be

53:56

saying whether 9-11 was a boom

53:58

or a doom. No

54:01

boom! Oh God! Again! And the Rizzler,

54:03

if you don't know, Rizzler's doing the

54:05

Rizz face. Oh boy, well let's explain

54:07

the fucking Rizzler. What's the Rizzler? The

54:09

Rizzler is a little chap. Well. They

54:12

went viral on Tik-Tok for being, I

54:14

think, a funny little boy. And then

54:16

he started doing the Rizz face. Now

54:18

can you explain the... There is face

54:20

is basically... I want to check on

54:22

correct with this. Yeah. Riz. What Riz

54:24

means, and this might just be a

54:26

UK thing, but Riz kind of means

54:29

chatting up women. It does. I'm terrified

54:31

that the Riz face means that theoretically,

54:33

that thing that he does where he

54:35

sort of wipes his face and pouts.

54:37

And then he is a shush as

54:39

well. Shush, is that his, him chatting

54:41

someone up, is that what they mean

54:44

when they say he's... because he's like

54:46

nine and he's kind of doing the

54:48

riz face is that isn't it funny

54:50

that like there's no possible way that

54:52

he could actually riz people up but

54:54

he is kind of like the rizzler

54:56

he's got that aura about him the

54:58

rizzler does and I just like it's

55:01

bad enough when you're I think you're

55:03

kind of forcing your son or maybe

55:05

likes it to review steak bake or

55:07

whatever at Costco when you're kind of

55:09

joking because it's kid isn't actually this

55:11

this kid is like chatting up women

55:13

like you say age date that to

55:16

me becomes very very strange at that

55:18

point and the other thing to say

55:20

about this is and you would be

55:22

forgiven for watching it these people are

55:24

not related to each other whatsoever no

55:26

the way they're stood in that shot

55:28

It's like these are my two sons.

55:30

Dad at the back and the eldest

55:33

boy has got his hands around the

55:35

boy. Yeah, as if he's the mum

55:37

or something. Yeah, yeah. This is our

55:39

son, the Rosla. Yeah, yeah. They're not

55:41

related. They're not related to talk. Well,

55:43

again, when I first saw it, I

55:45

was like, oh, that's the other brother.

55:47

And then I was, and then there

55:50

was someone online speculating that it's a

55:52

cousin. They're not related whatsoever. There's an

55:54

incredible thing on Google as well, because

55:56

I Google that to try and work

55:58

out. Again, that's another, like, you know,

56:00

welcome the asteroid, please. How are there?

56:02

So if you Google it, the first

56:05

question is, the like, the kind of

56:07

also suggested question is like, are big

56:09

justice and the rizzler? related. The second

56:11

question when I googled it was, are

56:13

Big Justice and the Rizzler Brothers or

56:15

are they just gang gang? So I

56:17

can confirm that the Rizzler and Big

56:19

Justice, they are not brothers, they are

56:22

just gang gang gang. And the next

56:24

video is... The third question is, is

56:26

this bleaker than Bonnie the Only Fans

56:28

go? Yeah. How far would the asteroid

56:30

need to hit? Great Britain in order

56:32

for us to all never think about

56:34

this again. So we just watch a

56:37

quick video showing this is how the

56:39

Rizzler and AJ joined up kind of

56:41

Avengers style to become. This is how

56:43

they sourced their Rizzler. They sourced the

56:45

Rizzler. I saw a video of him

56:47

and I was like daddy I want

56:49

to meet this kid and they were

56:51

like I love you guys we've been

56:54

watching you. So reach out through the

56:56

video we call immediately and it's like

56:58

it's cool immediately. It was like back

57:00

and forth like it's you guys they're

57:02

like it's you guys like all right

57:04

we're gonna be up in New Jersey

57:06

in June the first thing we're doing

57:08

is coming to you when I'm like

57:11

19 I'm gonna buy a house and

57:13

I'm rizzler when I'm 19 he'll be

57:15

17. So I'll be able to drive

57:17

and we'll both be in school still

57:19

and we'll have this house that we

57:21

could tree mad. You've got the vision!

57:23

What that put me in mind of

57:26

is this is like a kind of

57:28

content arranged marriage almost that they're having

57:30

here. Where it's like the parents are

57:32

like ringing each other up and it's

57:34

very strange. I think the Rizzler's dad

57:36

does content now as well. But like...

57:38

In the same way an old Indian

57:40

family would... Would your daughter like to

57:43

marry myself? Yeah, I think we're just

57:45

like back in the day, like you'd

57:47

have families just reaching out to each

57:49

other and being like, now it's like

57:51

we would like the Rizzler, we would

57:53

like to, the Rizzler and Big Justice

57:55

to meet so that they can stream

57:58

content together. to a house together so

58:00

they can stream together. Yeah, when they're

58:02

19 and then they're 17. I mean,

58:04

I don't want to like rain on

58:06

his parade. I'm not sure how much

58:08

longevity, big judges. Yeah, yeah, real optimism

58:10

that in seven years, time is going

58:12

to be. I mean, yeah, that's a

58:15

real, that's a real, are you going

58:17

to tell the kid that Santa Claus

58:19

isn't real? Are you going to tell

58:21

the boy that he's probably not still

58:23

going to be streaming in eight years?

58:25

Dad, are we going to be making

58:27

this much money from brand deals forever?

58:30

Yes, son, don't worry about it. And

58:32

the two theory will come tonight. Yeah,

58:34

this, this, us reviewing Costco stuff has

58:36

got, yeah, we're going to have a

58:38

career as long as Madonna. It's just

58:40

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

58:42

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

58:44

like, like, like, like, like, like, I

58:47

don't want to, like, like, like, like,

58:49

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

58:51

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

58:53

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

58:55

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

58:57

It's weird. It's weird. It's fucking... As

58:59

soon as I get to New Jersey,

59:01

I'm coming to see. You're coming to

59:04

do what? Meet my kid because you

59:06

want to make videos of your kid

59:08

with my kid. Listen to yourself. Listen

59:10

to yourself. I have to, as soon

59:12

as I get to New Jersey, I

59:14

have to meet you to make some

59:16

videos of your kid with my kid

59:19

to put it on the internet for

59:21

strangers to watch. Listen to yourself. You

59:23

sound like nonsense. It's so fucking weird.

59:25

Stop monetizing your kids. I had a

59:27

thing, yeah. I don't mind saying this.

59:29

During lockdown, right, my little girl was

59:31

born. Now, everyone thinks that their kid

59:33

is gorgeous. Like, I think my little

59:36

girl... I hate, like, after the back

59:38

of what I just said, like, I

59:40

was doing, like, content and stuff, like,

59:42

Joe, okay, there was enough people that

59:44

were like, okay, your kid could be

59:46

in adverts, right? Fucking lockdown, with skin,

59:48

we're struggling. Okay, yeah, maybe my kid

59:51

can be an advert. She's not pulling

59:53

her weight. She's not doing world-class basics.

59:55

But what the fuck am I... Yeah.

59:57

But you're right. What you're saying and

59:59

what you're implying. Oh, like, what, your

1:00:01

kid's not working hard enough? Exactly. Enough

1:00:03

fucking people that I was working at

1:00:05

the time. We're like, yeah, your daughter

1:00:08

could say... so nappies I was like

1:00:10

yeah okay what do I do you

1:00:12

got to get an agent man get

1:00:14

your kid and okay they sent me

1:00:16

the link and it I don't even

1:00:18

want to say but I think it

1:00:20

was it was like this agency called

1:00:23

like pretty little darling oh fucking out

1:00:25

seriously it was called like pretty little

1:00:27

darlings or something like that and you

1:00:29

would think there would be a level

1:00:31

of safeguarding of like phone this number,

1:00:33

you can come to an office and

1:00:35

you can see the clients we represent.

1:00:37

There was fuck all of that, there

1:00:40

was literally, you click on a link

1:00:42

and open a PDF file of the

1:00:44

pretty little darlings who were as young

1:00:46

as my daughter was at the time,

1:00:48

as young as one or two, full

1:00:50

fucking 200 images of all the pretty

1:00:52

little darlings they represent, dressed to the

1:00:54

nines in professional photographs. What the fuck

1:00:57

is going on? So you could select

1:00:59

your pretty little darlings to advertise now?

1:01:01

There's headshots, there's baby headshots. You could

1:01:03

shop for one. You could shop for

1:01:05

the prettiest little darling that pretty little

1:01:07

darlings represents and you could choose a

1:01:09

boy or a girl to sell nappies

1:01:12

or maybe that's not who you are

1:01:14

or maybe you're someone else with different

1:01:16

intentions watching looking on this fucking website.

1:01:18

Maybe you're a PDF file opening the

1:01:20

PDF file. Right and so I was

1:01:22

like, fuck this, we're not doing it.

1:01:24

we're not like my like i'll tell

1:01:26

you something from my childhood cool and

1:01:29

i wasn't a pretty little dog he's

1:01:31

what my childhood was like yeah and

1:01:33

i've had him it's funny that this

1:01:35

is coming up now so i had

1:01:37

a thing well did a gig in

1:01:39

Birmingham and it's a gig that you

1:01:41

know it's like a chain comedy club

1:01:44

where loads of comedians go around and

1:01:46

two comedy club and uh I was

1:01:48

talking to the regular host there and

1:01:50

he was like, he was asking me

1:01:52

about the barber shops and the bar.

1:01:54

I owned my best mate and he

1:01:56

was like it's funny you own those

1:01:58

chocolate and I was like yeah and

1:02:01

he goes yeah it's funny because you

1:02:03

know you've been described as a working

1:02:05

class comedian before and I was like

1:02:07

yeah and he goes yeah we had

1:02:09

this girl a comedian you know someone

1:02:11

we both know right don't say their

1:02:13

name but go on I wouldn't care

1:02:16

she was apparently in this green room

1:02:18

not quite slagging me off but saying

1:02:20

how can Jacob Hawley be a working

1:02:22

class comedian when he owns two barber

1:02:24

shops two barber shops right? For

1:02:26

fundamental misunderstanding of what owning a

1:02:28

business means. I think it's a

1:02:31

fundamental understanding of misunderstanding what working

1:02:33

class means. Like nearly all of

1:02:35

my mates from home are. They

1:02:37

all own their own businesses. Yeah,

1:02:39

whatever. For anyone doubt in my

1:02:41

working class credentials, here's something that

1:02:43

we did when we were younger.

1:02:45

We had dogs, right? We had

1:02:47

sausage dogs. My parents thought we

1:02:49

could make a bit of extra

1:02:51

money if we bred the dog.

1:02:53

Right. Plenty of my Saturday afternoons

1:02:55

were spent driving either around a

1:02:57

heart for two bed for a

1:02:59

year or kent where we spent

1:03:01

our summers right meeting other strange

1:03:03

families who also wanted to monetize

1:03:05

their dogs and I'd be sat

1:03:07

in a living room whilst a

1:03:09

bag was put over a female

1:03:11

dog's head and the owner of

1:03:13

a male dog would be leading

1:03:15

their dog to hump my dog.

1:03:17

There's a hundred dogs in the

1:03:19

queue. My

1:03:27

point is, it was fucking

1:03:29

bleak that I had to

1:03:31

drive around the country whilst

1:03:33

my parents tried to monetise

1:03:36

the dogs. It's fucking bleak

1:03:38

that I had to drive

1:03:40

around the country whilst my

1:03:42

parents tried to monetise the

1:03:44

dogs. It's fucking bleaker that

1:03:46

they're driving around America monetizing

1:03:48

their children. I don't have

1:03:50

much else to say on

1:03:52

that I think that's as

1:03:54

about as something else. So

1:03:57

funny what you just... Dog

1:04:00

podcast when my dog's

1:04:02

like, my dad's saying,

1:04:04

my dad's seen my content

1:04:06

and you know what, he

1:04:09

thinks good for me. I'd

1:04:11

like to fuck a thousand

1:04:13

dogs one day. Two dashons

1:04:15

on the train with two

1:04:18

coronas, flopsie

1:04:20

away. Ladies

1:04:22

and gentlemen, thank you so much

1:04:24

for watching this week. We'll be

1:04:27

back next week when we're talking

1:04:29

to Winona Weiner. But now to

1:04:31

play us out with a new

1:04:34

track from their debut album, it's

1:04:36

the Arctic monkeys with fluorescent and

1:04:38

a lesson.