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1:16

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1:18

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1:20

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1:22

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1:24

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1:26

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1:29

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1:31

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1:33

the world by a monolithic

1:35

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1:37

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1:44

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1:46

to bring about one world socialist

1:48

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1:50

disastrous rise of misplaced power exists.

1:52

It is patterned itself after every

1:55

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1:57

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1:59

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2:01

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2:03

to the state of affairs in which

2:06

they are living, then you have a

2:08

much more easily controllable society than you

2:10

would if you were relying only on

2:13

clubs and firing squads and concentration camps.

2:15

Tools of conquest do not necessarily come

2:17

with bombs and explosions and fallout. There

2:20

are weapons that are simply fights. Some

2:22

prejudices. As you connect the dots between

2:24

different people, organizations, religions, history, suddenly the

2:27

picture starts to form. The kingdom of

2:29

God is within man, not one man,

2:31

nor a group of men. Someone born

2:34

in the United States is not more

2:36

special than someone born in Mexico. Someone

2:38

who is white is not more special

2:40

than someone who is black. They're just

2:43

vehicles for the consciousness to experience. They

2:45

do not want your children to be

2:47

educated. They do not want you to

2:50

think too much. It was learned that

2:52

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2:54

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2:57

witchcraft, magic, the occult, and religion. They're

2:59

reaching to our children, music, television, books,

3:01

prey, no children's existence. How can I

3:04

just do advise that a stamp with

3:06

an official soon? So if you have

3:08

the opportunity to stand next to one

3:10

of these machines, it feels like an

3:13

altar to an alien. The genetic power

3:15

is the most awesome force the planet's

3:17

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3:20

kid that's found his dad's a gun.

3:22

The Army Air Force has announced that

3:24

a flying this is now in the

3:27

possession of the Army. Too many others

3:29

know what's happening out there. And no

3:31

one, no government agency has jurisdiction over

3:34

the truth. Any state, any entity, any

3:36

ideology that fails to recognize the worth,

3:38

the dignity, the rights of man. That

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5:25

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5:27

showing on the screen throughout the

5:29

broadcast tonight. We have a great

5:31

guest coming up. Don Lester, who

5:34

wrote an amazing book, one of

5:36

my favorite books actually, one of

5:38

the harder books to move over

5:40

here to Japan because it's so

5:42

big and heavy, but I had

5:45

to bring it. It is called,

5:47

What Really Makes You Ill? And

5:49

we will speak with Don Lester

5:51

here in a few minutes about

5:54

that book and how it applies

5:56

to what is happening currently, but

5:58

also in the past and also

6:00

what is occurring now that will

6:02

lead us to what will happen

6:05

in the future. And that involves

6:07

a number of different things. narratives

6:09

that begin as officialdom. with alternative

6:11

explanations that then become the mainstream

6:14

narrative. For example, COVID was from

6:16

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6:18

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7:09

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7:11

lab. So now that becomes the

7:14

official narrative, despite the fact that

7:16

ultimately that ignores some critical details,

7:18

like some critical context. And it

7:20

really, you know, we don't discuss

7:22

really important things like the fact

7:25

that whether or not you choose

7:27

to believe in any narrative. It's

7:29

all rooted in something called germ

7:31

theory, which, as I said, we

7:34

will talk about tonight, because it's

7:36

what this book is about. And

7:38

our guest, Don Lester, who you

7:40

can see on screen, I'll bring

7:42

her on here in just a

7:45

moment, here is an article from

7:47

the BBC about the CIA saying

7:49

the lab leak theory is most

7:51

likely the source of the COVID

7:54

outbreak. But there's more to it

7:56

than just that. There's other stories

7:58

that are very similar to this.

8:00

And we can go down a

8:02

long list of things. I won't

8:05

do that for time's sake because

8:07

again we have a guest tonight.

8:09

But you know I think about

8:11

things like RFK. Jr. And the

8:14

switching from certain kinds of seed

8:16

oils to beef tallow, and I've

8:18

said this on the show, doesn't

8:20

really matter if you fry dog

8:23

poop in oil or if you

8:25

fried in beef tallow, it's still

8:27

dog shit and I'm not going

8:29

to eat it. And that's really

8:31

the thing that we're not talking

8:34

about when we discuss this winning.

8:36

winning, we're winning in America by

8:38

frying dog shit in beef towel

8:40

instead of seed oil. And now

8:43

you could say, hey, it's at

8:45

least a step in the right

8:47

direction. And I'd agree with you,

8:49

it's a step in the right

8:51

direction. The problem is, we're about

8:54

50 steps behind most of the

8:56

rest of the world. And it

8:58

concerns me that if we're just

9:00

now taking a step in the

9:03

right direction, relatively speaking, I suppose...

9:05

if we're just now taking a

9:07

step in the right direction, how

9:09

far are we really behind and

9:11

considering why we're about 50 steps

9:14

behind, it makes me question the

9:16

motivation of those who are helping

9:18

us to take that next step

9:20

forward because it's the same type

9:23

of people that have kept us

9:25

50 steps behind the rest of

9:27

the world. So are we really

9:29

taking a step forward? Are we

9:31

taking a step to the side

9:34

or maybe a step backward? It's

9:36

astounding when you... travel a little

9:38

bit. I just one day decided,

9:40

you know what, I'm finally going

9:43

to go to Japan. And I

9:45

have to be honest, the normal

9:47

things in Japan didn't really surprise

9:49

me because I had studied the

9:51

culture, I studied the language, I

9:54

filled more at home in Japan,

9:56

but there are certain things that

9:58

just blow my mind. Like, I

10:00

don't get my bike stolen. You

10:03

can just basically leave your bike

10:05

anywhere people don't steal your bike.

10:07

But the other thing that blew

10:09

my mind was when I read

10:11

the ingredient lists for like soy

10:14

milk or tofu for... example, some

10:16

tofu. It explicitly says these soybeans

10:18

are domestic and they are strictly

10:20

monitored for genetic engineering. And when

10:23

I read that I thought, well

10:25

that's pretty interesting because like 95,

10:27

96% of the soy in the

10:29

US is genetically modified and it

10:31

sprayed heavily with very horrible chemicals.

10:34

And then, you know, I started

10:36

to notice that everything in Japan

10:38

is a little smaller obviously, but

10:40

portion sizes of everything, even like

10:43

some standard cookies in the United

10:45

States. a normal bag of those

10:47

in the US, it's like half

10:49

that size in Japan. So not

10:51

only are you eating things that

10:54

typically, even if they're bad, it's

10:56

going to be a smaller portion,

10:58

but you're also living a lifestyle

11:00

because it's part of the culture

11:03

where the diet is a lot

11:05

healthier in general. And that's not

11:07

just Japan, but this is an

11:09

example I've given you from my

11:11

time spent over here. And so

11:14

then if you think about the

11:16

United States or the West. in

11:18

general. You think about the fact

11:20

that we eat excess amounts of

11:23

the worst possible ingredients, and as

11:25

we're eating excessive amounts of the

11:27

worst possible ingredients, we're telling ourselves

11:29

that we're like the most advanced

11:31

in every form of everything, that

11:34

most technologically advanced, we have all

11:36

this amazing health care, but yet

11:38

we're really far behind in those

11:40

areas. We did a show in

11:43

this last week. We looked at

11:45

the average IQ, we looked at

11:47

the average life expectancy, unmanaged asthma,

11:49

diabetes, things like the heart attack,

11:51

and across the board, it's different

11:54

statistics from different sources. You could

11:56

look at the World Health Organization,

11:58

the World Bank, you could look

12:00

at independent reports, it's hard to

12:03

gauge this exactly. But generally speaking,

12:05

if you look at where the

12:07

United States sits on the chart.

12:09

It's not Good. The US, you

12:11

can see on this chart right

12:14

here, this is just one foundation

12:16

doing a report. The US spends

12:18

the most on health care and

12:20

yet were like way down here

12:23

in some of these key areas.

12:25

Countries like Japan are at the

12:27

very top with a handful of

12:29

other countries that are pretty consistent

12:31

across the board. And then things

12:34

like IQ. IQ in Japan, Singapore.

12:36

I mean, Taiwan, China, there's a

12:38

reason for that. And another thing

12:40

that gets me, and this isn't

12:43

part of the show, but just

12:45

this idea of like you have

12:47

to have a Christian Western culture

12:49

to have these things, obviously that's

12:51

not the case. Something's missing from

12:54

the equation here. It's probably because

12:56

we're about 50 steps back from

12:58

the rest of the world, which

13:00

makes me question that the people

13:03

that are changing this are actually

13:05

helping us to take a step

13:07

forward or if we're actually taking

13:09

a step back or maybe... a

13:11

step to the side. on the

13:14

secret teachings if I can get

13:16

this to work on the phone.

13:18

Sugar soda and the fake food

13:20

companies. We're not eating food. We're

13:23

eating food-like substances. And these companies

13:25

are now, just like the tobacco

13:27

companies were, are flooding them to

13:29

the offices of your state leaders

13:32

and legislatures of the governor. And

13:34

they're telling them he's making a

13:36

big mistake. Now for the record

13:38

the food companies many of the

13:40

major food companies were actually owned

13:43

by the tobacco companies that were

13:45

famous for their propaganda and famous

13:47

for their fraudulent science. The tobacco

13:49

companies bought a lot of these

13:52

companies in the 1990s, used the

13:54

same techniques, some of the same

13:56

chemicals. and then dump them in

13:58

the early 2000s. And these companies

14:00

basically use the same types of

14:03

tactics that the tobacco industry used.

14:05

Same kinds of legal arguments, same

14:07

kinds of propaganda, same kinds of

14:09

chemicals, etc. Tell them that they're

14:12

going to stop writing checks, that

14:14

they're going to run people against

14:16

them, that they're going to destroy

14:18

their political careers. And Governor Morsi

14:20

was telling me that he met

14:23

with the soda companies this week.

14:25

And they said, you need to

14:27

be educated about this. And they

14:29

said, you know, food stamps is

14:32

not a nutrition program. He came

14:34

in with his diet Coke. And

14:36

he said, is there anything nutritious

14:38

in here? And they were like,

14:40

no, of course not. But food

14:43

stamps is not a nutrition program.

14:45

And he said, it's called SNAP,

14:47

supplementary nutrition assistance program is supposed

14:49

to be nutrition. It's not supposed

14:52

to be food-like substances. It's not

14:54

supposed to be food-like substances. It's

14:56

supposed to be nutrition assistance. And

14:58

yet you have these right-wing influencers

15:00

that are literally paid to promote

15:03

soda as a choice, just like

15:05

you have the same arguments when

15:07

the liberals try to ban something.

15:09

Oh, it's the nanny state. It's

15:12

the same argument from the soda

15:14

companies. And the bottom line is

15:16

this. At the core of all

15:18

of this stuff, whether it's COVID

15:20

or it's soda and snap and

15:23

whatnot, seed oils, we're not addressing

15:25

core key issues like germ theory,

15:27

we're not addressing core key issues

15:29

like, hey, it's still food-like substances

15:32

that we're calling fast food. So

15:34

we're going to address that tonight

15:36

on the show with Don Lester.

15:38

Don has written an amazing book,

15:40

it took a very, very long

15:43

time to write this book, what

15:45

really makes you ill. I will

15:47

also show you for those of

15:49

you who are watching her website,

15:52

what really makes you ill, what

15:54

really makes you ill. .com. You

15:56

can see that as well on

15:58

the screen. What really makes you

16:00

ill? Don, thank you for coming

16:03

on The Secret Teachings again. I

16:05

really appreciate you taking the time

16:07

to not only do the show,

16:09

but to do a video show,

16:12

which is relatively new to me.

16:14

Thank you for joining us. Thank

16:16

you. You're more than welcome. Yes,

16:18

it's interesting to be doing this

16:20

by video, because all our other

16:23

conversations on your shows before have

16:25

been... audio only so this is

16:27

interesting experience so no it's it's

16:29

it's always good to to talk

16:32

with your I'm always good yeah

16:34

you too and you make so

16:36

many good points that where would

16:38

you like to start with COVID

16:40

with the food yeah let's talk

16:43

for a moment about the well

16:45

I think the the obvious elephant

16:47

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16:49

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16:52

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to let's replace seed oil with

17:36

beef tallow, but it ignores the

17:38

fact that it's still fake food

17:40

substances. Let's talk a little about

17:43

that you start wherever you think

17:45

is best. Okay,

17:48

well with the COVID, it's

17:50

interesting that that article you

17:52

mentioned that you actually showed

17:55

says more likely again, not.

17:57

definitive. They're not making it

17:59

an absolute statement. So they're

18:02

just saying more likely. And

18:04

it's to get people to

18:06

sway from one side to

18:09

the other. Oh, it's natural

18:11

or it's this. And as

18:13

you say, it keeps people

18:16

away from the underlying issue,

18:18

which is that there's, you

18:20

know, as you're saying about

18:23

with the germ theory, that

18:25

there's... actually never been any

18:27

evidence for the existence of

18:30

pathogenic viruses and that is

18:32

kept well away from these

18:34

arguments and more people are

18:37

becoming aware of that it

18:39

still is not reaching it's

18:41

certainly not reaching the mainstream

18:44

and it's not even reaching

18:46

the large alternative media sources

18:48

so that leaves a big

18:51

question over why they avoiding

18:53

that issue. It's regarded as

18:55

fringe, it's regarded as, you

18:58

know, just conspiracy theories or

19:00

pseudoscience or anything like that.

19:02

And it's, it actually is

19:04

the fundamental issue because there's

19:07

so much that is put

19:09

out on the basis of

19:11

the germ theory being correct.

19:14

And we, you know, we

19:16

can go into one of

19:18

the other articles you shared

19:21

with me about the whole,

19:23

antimicrobial resistance, you know, the

19:25

bacterial resistance. So, you know,

19:28

that's all part of it.

19:30

It's not just viruses. That's

19:32

really all part of the

19:35

issues, you know, we're given,

19:37

well, I mean, they're false

19:39

dichotomates, we're given two sides,

19:42

if you like, of an

19:44

argument where In many cases

19:46

there may be a little

19:49

bit of truth in either

19:51

side which helps to confuse

19:53

people but neither of those

19:56

arguments is is actually fully

19:58

correct. you know, there may

20:00

be something in there, although

20:03

with the COVID part of

20:05

it, you know, Lableek or

20:07

a natural virus, I mean,

20:10

that just, neither side has

20:12

any evidence to support that

20:14

idea. It's all based on

20:17

a base assumption. Yes, and

20:19

that base assumption is unproven,

20:21

and of course they don't

20:24

want that base, that unproven

20:26

assumption. You know, they

20:28

don't want the germ theory

20:30

to be shown to be

20:33

unproven. They don't want that

20:35

to be exposed because there

20:37

is so much riding on

20:40

that being the underlying principle

20:42

behind so much of what's

20:44

being done at the moment,

20:46

which is not just in

20:49

the health industry. It's in

20:51

the food industry. which is

20:53

huge so it's you know

20:55

the whole food industry so

20:58

in things like preservatives you

21:00

know a lot of these

21:02

chemicals are used to you

21:04

know preserve which is to

21:07

kill the so-called germs that

21:09

will break things down so

21:11

that makes everything last longer

21:13

on the shelves but shelf

21:16

life doesn't mean that the

21:18

food like substance is actually

21:20

nutritious so it is a

21:22

really it is a really

21:25

important point the difference between

21:27

a real food which provides

21:29

nutrient, which is, you know,

21:31

nourishment which feeds the body,

21:34

and food like substances, which

21:36

is what the food industry

21:38

pretty much manufactures. So on

21:40

the, and again on the

21:43

beef tallow, of course that's,

21:45

you know, taking out seedards

21:47

and using beef tallow, that...

21:49

that has multiple purposes because

21:52

it also feeds the what

21:54

I call diet wars because

21:56

there are many people who

21:58

say that veganism is of

22:01

the agenda and that's not

22:03

necessarily the reason that there's

22:05

a small element of truth

22:07

in that because it is

22:10

being promoted that you know to you

22:12

know not eat animals or

22:14

something because it's better for

22:16

the planet that's that is

22:19

part of the agenda but

22:21

that's not necessarily the reason

22:24

that a lot of people

22:26

are either vegan or vegetarian.

22:28

beef tallow, it's missing the

22:30

point of what's the origin

22:33

of that tallow. What animals

22:36

has that tallow been taken

22:38

from? How healthy are they?

22:40

Are they just, you know,

22:42

industrial, industrial farms, you

22:45

know, the sort of

22:47

factory farms, caefos, you

22:49

know, that they are just

22:51

atrocious organizations, the

22:53

way they manage. animals.

22:56

The animals are injected,

22:59

they are so-called medicated, and

23:01

again this is also part

23:03

of where the germ theory

23:05

comes in because again vaccines

23:08

are for so-called diseases that

23:10

are supposed to be caused

23:13

by germs and a lot

23:15

of the not just medications

23:17

but also chemicals that they

23:20

use for pesticides to kill,

23:22

you know, whatever pest that

23:25

are are claimed to attack the

23:27

animals and that again you

23:29

know is misleading but of course

23:31

it's using toxic chemicals to

23:33

kill things to preserve something

23:35

so that this is where

23:37

as I say the germ

23:39

theory has many tentacles and

23:41

can I can interject something

23:44

just the idea of you

23:46

know absolutely yeah just from the

23:48

point of view of someone who

23:50

tries to take a neutral stance

23:52

on various hyper political issues.

23:55

A lot of the maha make

23:57

America healthy movement that are very

24:00

opposed to vaccines and totally understand

24:02

me too. They also have this

24:04

trend in the alternative media where

24:06

they believe that these vaccines that

24:08

are MRNA vaccines or filled with

24:11

microchips or whatever they say are

24:13

going to be injected into cattle.

24:15

So then why would you want

24:17

to take beef tallow from or

24:20

get your beef tallow from the

24:22

cattle you're injecting with nanotechnology to

24:24

now fry your French fries? some

24:26

restaurant. It just, most of these

24:29

arguments don't, they're not coherent, they're

24:31

not cohesive, and under any amount

24:33

of scrutiny, just like mainstream narratives,

24:35

they fall apart. But since they

24:38

are alternative, the assumption is, well,

24:40

they must be right, or I'm

24:42

tired of being lied to by

24:44

the government and the media, so

24:47

anybody who says something different, I'll

24:49

just believe them, just believe them,

24:51

even if it's contradictory. Yes,

24:56

absolutely. And that's part of the

24:58

kind of propaganda in a way,

25:00

which is because we know that

25:02

not everything we're told by the

25:05

mainstream is correct, there has, that's

25:07

been turned into everything we're told

25:09

is a lie. So everything that

25:11

the mainstream says is a lie.

25:13

And that is not necessarily correct.

25:16

And that's often used to hide

25:18

some aspects that are true because

25:20

then that discredits people saying everything

25:22

they say is a lie and

25:25

then it can be shown that

25:27

some of the things they're saying

25:29

is some of the things are

25:31

actually true. So it's the these

25:33

whole generalizations that everything is this

25:36

and nothing is that it's it

25:38

requires discernment. It requires a great

25:40

deal of discernment to look. the

25:42

stories to see what is actually

25:45

being said and if there's anything.

25:47

of any truth in that. So

25:49

as you say, you know, the

25:51

alternative by taking the completely opposite

25:53

stance may seem to be putting

25:56

out something that's more appropriate, more

25:58

correct, and yet within their stories

26:00

there's also distractions, misleading information, misinformation,

26:02

and it's not necessarily completely correct

26:05

because they aren't necessarily as independent.

26:07

as we may like to think

26:09

they are. So again, you know,

26:11

who's, who are, you know, who

26:13

are the funders behind so-called alternative

26:16

media, you know, because, and it's

26:18

not just, oh, there's mainstream and

26:20

alternative and nothing else, because there

26:22

are a lot of smaller podcasts

26:24

and radio shows that are putting

26:27

out information that isn't. following either

26:29

the mainstream or the alternative like

26:31

yours, you know, you're critiquing both

26:33

sides, having a look at both

26:36

sides and saying, well, let's step

26:38

back, be discerning and have a

26:40

look at what they're actually saying

26:42

and see what we can glean

26:44

from either side, you know, is

26:47

there some truth anywhere, and what

26:49

can we do about it? And

26:51

again, with these stories, you know,

26:53

these reports. that it's just, you

26:56

know, being replaced by a beef

26:58

towel. And a lot of people

27:00

will say, well, that's, as you

27:02

say, that's a good thing. But

27:04

by itself, it's not enough to

27:07

say, oh, that's a good thing,

27:09

because, like you say, there are

27:11

so many other things that people

27:13

need to look at. What's the

27:16

sauce? And so it could be,

27:18

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of sourcing, that are providing... good

28:02

food, you know, because french fries

28:04

aren't necessarily the worst food that

28:07

you can have, again, depending on

28:09

how they're fried, I suppose. Or

28:11

other foods, you know, if they

28:13

are food as opposed to junk

28:16

food, you know, are they sourcing

28:18

their beef tallow from organic or

28:20

regenerative farms, for example, in which

28:22

case it? may well be a

28:24

healthy eruption. So it's never that

28:27

straightforward or, you know, beef tallow,

28:29

good, seed oils bad. Context matters.

28:31

Further, that layers totally and be

28:33

discerning as to who's putting the

28:36

information, what restaurants they're talking about,

28:38

can you find out the source

28:40

of the tallow that they're using?

28:42

And is it actually food that

28:44

they're cooking in this tallow? Like

28:47

you say, if it's just food

28:49

like substances, then... Does it matter?

28:51

Yeah, I'll give you a really

28:53

good example here too. There's a

28:56

bill in California that passed. California's

28:58

banned over the years a handful

29:00

of food collarings. In the past,

29:02

they've banned one or two, and

29:04

they've just allowed industry to replace

29:07

those food collarings with other food

29:09

collarings, where they've renamed the same

29:11

food collarings. Recently, the FDA has

29:13

banned a red dye. and there's

29:15

a bunch of different red dies.

29:18

They banned one specific red die.

29:20

California as a state... had also

29:22

done the same thing. But while

29:24

we're discussing that, when you go

29:27

read the actual legislation, which I

29:29

did on the show, it's very

29:31

short, it's like a paragraph, and

29:33

it says, it's banned after a

29:35

certain date, but the only thing

29:38

that a company will get in

29:40

trouble for if they continue to

29:42

use it is they will have

29:44

to be sued, which the average

29:47

person is not gonna be able

29:49

to sue, and that the company

29:51

will pay a $10,000 fine for

29:53

the first offense. If they continue

29:55

to do it, they'll pay an

29:58

additional fine if they're sued a

30:00

second time for using that food

30:02

coloring. And so when I covered

30:04

that like a year ago, I

30:07

think it was, I said, well,

30:09

that's just one food coloring. There's

30:11

a whole bunch of food collaring.

30:13

Even if that were a good

30:15

thing, which it apparently isn't when

30:18

you read the legislation, what are

30:20

the other food collaring that they're

30:22

not banning? That's an important piece

30:24

of information. And I think that

30:27

there's There's actually some positive news

30:29

in the state of West Virginia

30:31

where I went to high school.

30:33

One of the sickest states in

30:35

the United States Don, one of

30:38

the most obese, heart disease, heart

30:40

attack, diabetes in the whole country.

30:42

They fight with like Alabama for

30:44

first place. I think it's Alabama.

30:47

But the governor just recently signed,

30:49

this is a positive thing. I

30:51

think overall a positive thing. The

30:53

governor just signed a bill that

30:55

would ban all these food collarings,

30:58

beginning August 1st, 2025. 10 years

31:00

from now, not like one food

31:02

coloring. If the company gets sued,

31:04

they're gonna ban red dye three,

31:07

red dye 40, yellow dye five,

31:09

yellow dye six, blue dye one,

31:11

blue dye two, and green dye

31:13

number three. That's, as far as

31:15

I can tell, that's a positive

31:18

thing. And there's actually more than

31:20

just that happening in West Virginia.

31:22

This is the same governor who

31:24

RFK Jr. was talking about when

31:27

I played that clip. where he

31:29

was talking to the soda companies

31:31

and said, is this soda nutritious?

31:33

It's like, no, of course not.

31:35

And why is it included on

31:38

the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program if

31:40

it's not? And I think that

31:42

this is actually, I don't, I'm

31:44

not saying that I support the

31:47

governor of West Virginia. I don't

31:49

know much else about the guy.

31:51

I have a high school friend

31:53

who keeps up on this stuff

31:55

who lives there who actually sent

31:58

me this. But Governor Morris, he

32:00

seems to be a guy who

32:02

learned and decided, okay, this is

32:04

what we're going to push for

32:07

in West Virginia and it really

32:09

has. much less to do with

32:11

the make America rate movement and

32:13

more so to do with the

32:15

fact that he became friends with

32:18

RFK Jr. and our K Jr.

32:20

showed him these things in the

32:22

same way the actor Woody Harrelson

32:24

actually showed RFK Jr. Kim trails

32:26

and he didn't believe it until

32:29

Woody Harrelson showed RFK Jr. Kim

32:31

trails and he didn't believe it

32:33

until Woody Harrelson showed it to

32:35

him in his own words he

32:38

said. So I want to play

32:40

this very tiny clip. I just

32:42

thought that this was funny. I

32:44

said to Dr. Morris, or Governor

32:46

Morris, the first time I saw

32:49

him, I said, you look like

32:51

you ate Governor Morrissey. I thought

32:53

it was kind of funny. It

32:55

looks like you ate the governor.

32:58

And then he realized, wait, I've

33:00

got problems in RFK Jr. showed

33:02

him and helped him. And now

33:04

West Virginia, like the sickest, probably

33:06

one of the sickest parts of

33:09

planet Earth for industrial countries, is

33:11

now making changes that... are far

33:13

beyond anything the super liberal healthy

33:15

state of California is doing. I

33:18

find that to be a positive

33:20

message. I don't know all the

33:22

context or details, but I find

33:24

that to be a positive message.

33:26

RFK Jr. said, you look like

33:29

you ate the governor. You don't

33:31

look like the governor. He learns

33:33

the lessons, and West Virginia is

33:35

now making changes that if any

33:38

state needs to make them, it's

33:40

definitely West Virginia first, especially growing

33:42

up there. I know firsthand. They

33:44

used to put food collarings in

33:46

pepperoni rolls, which were just bread

33:49

and pepperoni, maybe cheese. They'd be

33:51

food collarings in them and all

33:53

kinds of... It's bad enough for

33:55

you anyway, but my point... is

33:58

there's a positive aspect of even

34:00

more local government where someone because

34:02

they were they were very overweight

34:04

and very unhealthy and they were

34:06

showing how to kind of change

34:09

that and a change was made

34:11

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34:13

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34:15

even the whole Maham movement itself

34:18

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34:20

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34:22

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34:24

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plus terms and conditions apply. It

35:11

is certainly we can use the

35:13

argument that it's a lot better

35:15

than what we had before because

35:17

it's not banning one food die

35:20

by the year 20,000, you know,

35:22

500. It's banning a food dye

35:24

effective almost immediately and a whole

35:26

long list of them and if

35:29

you use them you get in

35:31

big trouble. That's the kind of

35:33

change that we're going to have

35:35

change in my opinion that we

35:37

need to actually see Don. What

35:40

do you think of that? I

35:42

agree that it's good that it's

35:44

not one at a time because

35:46

as you say there are so

35:49

many different food dies. My only

35:51

question would be what are they

35:53

going to be replaced by? Good

35:55

question. Will they be replaced by

35:57

something else? You know, because food

36:00

manufacturers produce foods that require colouring

36:02

because in in the manufacturing process,

36:04

I mean, that's something that's covered

36:06

to quite an extent in what

36:09

really makes you ill. You know,

36:11

the use of various colourings and

36:13

flavourings and all sorts of additives,

36:15

because in the processing of these

36:17

ingredients, not all of which are

36:20

actual food substances, you know, the

36:22

colour, the natural colours are lost.

36:24

So they add these colours to

36:26

make them look like... The real

36:29

food would be so that people

36:31

you know because that's the that's

36:33

the first point of contact for

36:35

a consumer's is what something looks

36:37

like Which is why they they

36:40

spray That's why they spray the

36:42

meats with like or they put

36:44

them under red lights so they

36:46

look more more red more I

36:49

guess full of blood or more

36:51

more alive rather than just rotting

36:53

brown flesh or something like that

36:56

Yes, you know, they they

36:58

almost need those artificial colors

37:01

to help the food to

37:03

help the products again, you

37:05

know, it's because they're not

37:07

high. I call them food

37:09

products, you know, because they're

37:11

manufactured. They're often very little

37:13

real food ingredients. I mean,

37:15

in just happen to remember

37:17

one of the within the

37:20

flavorings industry there's something that

37:22

they produce for the flavor

37:24

of strawberry. Apparently 30 different

37:26

chemicals to make that flavor

37:28

of strawberry and not one

37:30

of them is an actual

37:32

strawberry. So you know this

37:34

you know if you've got

37:36

30 different ingredients to create

37:39

strawberry then you know obviously

37:41

there are a lot of

37:43

different colors. There are other

37:45

colourings that are used, as

37:47

you say, that are used

37:49

elsewhere, so maybe they'll start

37:51

introducing those. I still say

37:53

there may be a question

37:55

mark over them, but it

37:57

does take that state a

38:00

few steps forward by banning,

38:02

as you say, by banning

38:04

a lot of them that

38:06

have been shown to be

38:08

pretty unhealthy, should we say.

38:10

Yes, I want to. I

38:12

mean, they're chemicals, you know,

38:14

they are chemicals that the

38:16

body doesn't recognize as foods

38:19

or whatever, and so that

38:21

the body will respond to

38:23

them. I want to clarify

38:25

something and I can't produce

38:27

yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes,

38:29

and you can go back

38:31

to your comment. I just

38:33

wanted to show people that

38:35

if you're obviously if you're

38:38

watching the video, this is

38:40

a bill, a law that

38:42

takes effect essentially immediately. It

38:44

immediately bans the usage of

38:46

these things in first the

38:48

school nutrition program beginning August

38:50

1st of this year. That's

38:52

really positive. for the overall

38:54

state, they have to remove

38:56

these things as well. And

38:59

then by January 1st of

39:01

2023 years, it's not just

39:03

the dies, but the state's

39:05

also forcing companies to remove

39:07

certain preservatives too. I'll try

39:09

to pronounce this so you

39:11

can see it on the

39:13

screen, butilated hydroxion hydroxinosol, propylene,

39:15

or propylparabin, as well as

39:18

the food coloring. So. It's

39:20

not just the food collarings.

39:22

They're going a step further

39:24

and it's probably because of

39:26

RFK Jr. that they're doing

39:28

this because of the governor's

39:30

relationship with him. I don't

39:32

agree with everything RFK Jr.

39:34

says or his relationship with

39:37

the weird rabbi who sells

39:39

dildos, but I do like

39:41

this and I think that

39:43

this is a positive step

39:45

forward. I'm sorry, Don, go

39:47

back to what you were

39:49

saying. No, I mean, I

39:51

agree that there are steps

39:53

and I wouldn't say. You

39:55

know, that's the thing with

39:58

these ideas that it's absolute

40:00

is he's either. good or

40:02

bad. Well, no, something, some

40:04

things are happening that are

40:06

steps forward, so not to

40:08

knock that at the same

40:10

time, not to accept these

40:12

limited steps as being sufficient

40:14

to say, okay, well, this

40:17

is the start of the

40:19

process. No, all I was

40:21

saying before was about these

40:23

chemicals that the body doesn't

40:25

recognize as food will then

40:27

produce symptoms that are then...

40:30

given a label of some kind

40:32

of disease instead of recognizing that

40:34

this is the body expelling something

40:37

that it doesn't recognize as being

40:39

appropriate for nourishment you know to

40:41

actually nourish the body and it

40:43

says the body says no I

40:46

don't want this and will produce

40:48

various symptoms as I said to

40:50

expel the substance, you know, to

40:52

eliminate it. And so whether it's,

40:55

you know, rashes or some kind

40:57

of vomiting or diarrhoea or whatever,

40:59

some kind of symptom, it's then

41:01

called a disease and not necessarily

41:04

or very rarely connected to the

41:06

food that's been eaten. You know,

41:08

it was, you know, food poisoning

41:10

because there was some bacteria in

41:13

there. Well, no, it's to do

41:15

with these these chemicals. And yes.

41:17

Definitely, there definitely have been for

41:19

a number of years, correlations between,

41:22

well, you know, direct associations between

41:24

the use of these artificial colors

41:26

and hyperactivity. So, yeah, yes, for

41:28

people that... Yes, that's one of

41:31

the major reasons. They're unsafe, they're

41:33

unnecessary. I'm showing right now on

41:35

screen for those of you who

41:37

are just listening. This is Berkeley

41:40

Public Health. You can find... Union

41:42

of Concerned Scientists, major universities, it's

41:44

been well known probably for a

41:46

solid decade, if not more, that

41:49

these food collarings, more so than

41:51

probably even sugar, are what really

41:53

caused the hybrid... and kids. So

41:55

when you joke around about all

41:58

the kids, you're just on a

42:00

bunch of sugar. Well, they're actually

42:02

on a bunch of food collarings

42:04

and a bunch of other really

42:07

bad stuff and probably pumpful of

42:09

vaccines and probably on sugar too.

42:11

But it's the food collarings that

42:13

there's a direct correlative link between.

42:16

I don't know if you can

42:18

be able to hear this, Don,

42:20

because I might have to play

42:22

it on the same channel. But

42:25

there's a great episode of one

42:27

of my favorite TV shows all-time

42:29

Spongebob. That pretty much summarizes what

42:31

we're talking about. Again, I don't

42:34

know if you can hear it,

42:36

but at least you can watch

42:38

it. These are how the crabby

42:40

patties are made. Hamburgers are made

42:43

at the Krusty Krab when Mr.

42:45

Krab sells out and sells out

42:47

to some big corporation. What's going

42:49

on around here? Where's SpongeBob? And

42:52

that right there. is

42:54

your fake food fast in your

42:56

beef tallow. Probably not something you

42:58

want to eat. That is actually

43:00

pretty close to how a lot

43:02

of this food is actually made.

43:05

Anyway, that's one of my favorite

43:07

episodes of Spongebop. But we have

43:09

Don Lester with us. We're at

43:11

about the halfway point of the

43:13

first hour. The book is what

43:15

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43:17

show that again for people who

43:19

are watching the video. If you're

43:22

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43:24

sign up to the secret teachings

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43:37

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43:39

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43:41

Lester as well is in that

43:43

archive. Okay, so Don we've spent

43:45

some time talking about the food

43:47

collarings and the context and the

43:49

perspectives of things like germ theory

43:51

and all of this We can

43:54

kind of transition, I think, into

43:56

the start to transition into the

43:58

second half of tonight's show. There's

44:00

a couple of things I wanted

44:02

to speak with you about. Maybe

44:04

we can save the one about

44:06

assistant. dying for the later part

44:09

of the show. But I do

44:11

want to speak with you about

44:13

a recent thing that you had

44:15

written, I believe it's part of

44:17

your sub stack, about what you

44:19

call it desperation that is setting

44:21

in. And in a nutshell, I'll

44:23

try to summarize just very briefly,

44:26

and then you can take the

44:28

floor. But we see this, like,

44:30

I could probably just type this

44:32

in in real time right now

44:34

and find five or six stories

44:36

about bacteria. viruses, funguses, etc. etc.

44:38

etc. New X found in the

44:41

jungle, new this found in a

44:43

village, new this found in some

44:45

kid playing on the playground, scrap

44:47

their knee, and there's a new

44:49

bacteria, there's a new virus, there's

44:51

a new this, there's new that,

44:53

and it's got a 95% kill

44:55

rate, etc., etc. etc. It's just

44:58

everywhere. And then the other side

45:00

to that is that, well, because

45:02

of climate change, we're going to

45:04

release all these viruses and... A

45:06

lot of people are still debating

45:08

over Fauci and Hotez and oh,

45:10

they're going to release a virus

45:12

from the Wuhan lab a second

45:15

time to stop Trump's administration. And

45:17

I'm just sitting back again thinking

45:19

like you, but again, this is

45:21

all based on a baseline assumption

45:23

that's inherently fundamentally flawed and false.

45:25

So take us through this sub

45:27

stack that you wrote tell us

45:30

where people can read this. It's

45:32

a very good article. You've got

45:34

really good references in there just

45:36

like the book. Tell us a

45:38

little bit about it and what

45:40

this desperation is. Well, my sub-stack

45:42

is dawnlester.com where I've been continuing

45:44

to write articles. I weren't quite

45:47

a few, yeah, well over 100

45:49

by now, I think. That's nearly

45:51

three years ago, I started that.

45:53

So, it's the continual... propaganda

45:55

and that's the point that

45:58

article. literally was there on

46:00

the BBC? Not that I

46:02

follow the BBC, but it's

46:04

a really good source of

46:06

the latest propaganda to just

46:08

get an idea of what's

46:10

being promoted because my purpose

46:12

in my writing is to

46:15

help dispel the myths so

46:17

that people don't fall into

46:19

fear-mongering or fall into unnecessary

46:21

fear. of something that isn't

46:23

true. So the, the art,

46:25

it was at the end

46:27

of March and it's called

46:30

UK draws up new disease

46:32

threat watch list and it

46:34

says the new watch list

46:36

is, there are 24 infectious

46:38

diseases that could post the

46:40

greatest future threat to public

46:42

health. and then it says

46:44

some of viruses with global

46:47

pandemic potential like COVID, while

46:49

others are illnesses that have

46:51

no existing treatments or could

46:53

cause significant harm. So it's

46:55

ramping up the fear of,

46:57

you know, another pandemic, other

46:59

viruses, other illnesses, you know,

47:02

it's this whole global thing

47:04

to justify their control. So

47:06

it's justifying the 2030 agenda.

47:08

And yes, the gender is

47:10

the real world. It's the

47:12

word they use. The 2030

47:14

agenda was published in September

47:16

2015. And I would remember

47:19

reading about it right from

47:21

the very beginning soon after

47:23

it actually came out on

47:25

the UN website. And part

47:27

of it is, yep, transforming

47:29

our world. So the... sustainable

47:31

development goals. There are 17

47:34

of them. Sustainable development goal

47:36

number three is about health.

47:38

And when you look at

47:40

it, it's all about promoting

47:42

medicines. No, it's actually access

47:44

to medicines and vaccines for

47:46

all. So the idea is

47:48

to be, to make us

47:51

feel that, you know, well,

47:53

everyone should have the same

47:55

access as we do to

47:57

these treatments, to these medicines

47:59

and vaccines for health because

48:01

that's what health is all

48:03

about. You know, that we,

48:06

again, the United Nations, obviously,

48:08

it's the WHO. to say

48:10

that, you know, we, you

48:12

know, so well, yeah, children

48:14

don't don't have access or

48:16

missing out on important routine

48:18

immunisation. So it's that kind

48:20

of propaganda because it's... They've

48:23

got to keep the germ

48:25

theory alive, to keep these

48:27

medicines and vaccines on their...

48:29

Yeah, you notice that they

48:31

are not saying anything about

48:33

the food collarings or the

48:35

preservatives or the chemicals or

48:38

the excess amounts of what

48:40

we eat, particularly in the

48:42

Western world, or the excess

48:44

amounts of the worst possible

48:46

things you could eat that

48:48

aren't even technically food. It's

48:50

just making sure that the

48:52

kids have the vaccines, not

48:55

checking on them for the

48:57

other crap that's putting that

48:59

they're putting into their body.

49:01

That's... that they're putting into

49:03

their body. not really the

49:05

concern of the World Health

49:07

Organization or the UN. Yes,

49:10

and it's a misnomer to

49:12

say the World Health Organization,

49:14

they're not about health because

49:16

they're not talking about creating

49:18

health, they're talking about managing

49:20

disease, you know, fighting disease,

49:22

you know, we've got to

49:24

control disease, but that's because

49:27

they don't understand what the

49:29

body is, how it actually

49:31

works and what disease... is

49:33

although there are no actual

49:35

diseases, there are conditions that

49:37

happen within the body that

49:39

are produced as the result

49:42

of what we're exposed to,

49:44

so either the internal environment,

49:46

so that's what we eat,

49:48

what we drink, what we

49:50

breathe in, and what we...

49:52

to in our external environment.

49:54

It's also, it's not just

49:56

physical, it's our, it's our

49:59

belief system, it's our mental

50:01

emotional and spiritual health as

50:03

well that's tied into it.

50:05

And that's how they get

50:07

people into fear, which is

50:09

using a tried and trusted

50:11

method. I mean, you were

50:14

referring to it, you know,

50:16

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50:18

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to the family. Six

51:02

or eight or something like that.

51:04

So I mean, you know, that's

51:07

almost a hundred years ago that

51:09

they've been using this Manipulation of

51:11

the masses Which he's actually talked

51:14

about you know, he talks about

51:16

in that book He gave us

51:18

this the cigarette industry which later

51:21

influenced the food industry. It's the

51:23

same tactics quite literally traced back

51:26

to the 1928 book. Yes Yes

51:28

Yes, exactly and that's the point

51:30

that it it These are tactics

51:33

to control people, control people's behavior

51:35

and habits. Again, it is the

51:37

manipulation of our habits and behaviors.

51:40

So getting people to follow a

51:42

particular trend because, you know, and

51:44

they've been doing so many different

51:47

studies, I mean, not really experiments,

51:49

but different studies of the human,

51:52

human behavior, human psychology, you know,

51:54

with all the Milgram-ash experiments and...

51:56

There's kinds of things I mean

51:59

that. notes of them to try

52:01

and get an idea of how

52:03

we respond in certain circumstances.

52:06

And what is important for

52:08

me to sort of share

52:10

the message is that we aren't

52:12

all the same. We don't

52:14

always respond in exactly the same

52:17

way. And so just because some

52:19

people do, the fact that some

52:21

people don't is good because we're

52:23

not all the same. And that's

52:26

what they want us. to move towards,

52:28

to think that we are all

52:30

the same. And if we're different,

52:32

different, to point to us, point

52:34

us out, you know, those are

52:37

the different ones and call them

52:39

names, and people don't like to

52:41

be different, and so they're more

52:44

likely to follow the hurt, although

52:46

I think that's somewhat changing. More

52:49

people are being prepared, are prepared

52:51

to stand up for what they

52:53

feel is right as we're coming out

52:55

of this fog of... misunderstanding

52:58

and as we're learning, but it

53:01

does take effort to remain discerning

53:03

because we can easily be pulled

53:05

down these different rabbit holes. So

53:07

with the, you know, with that

53:10

article, I mean, for me it

53:12

seemed, the desperation of, they're putting

53:14

out so much propaganda on

53:17

all these different threats and

53:19

these viruses and these illnesses and it's

53:21

like, that seemed to me that, you

53:23

know, is this, you know, is this.

53:26

desperation. You know, that

53:28

they are, that they need to

53:30

convince more people because

53:33

they're aware that more

53:35

and more of us are,

53:37

are, you know, like rejecting

53:39

the narrative. We've learned

53:42

what's going. Yes, well, we've looked

53:44

into it. We're discerning and we're

53:46

saying, well, again rejecting the mainstream

53:49

narrative a lot of people are

53:51

still accepting possibly the alternative narrative

53:53

but there are more more people

53:55

in saying actually no even that

53:58

alternative narrative doesn't go far enough.

54:00

Like you were saying with the

54:02

you know banning one die well

54:04

that's okay but that doesn't go

54:07

far enough because there are lots

54:09

of dies in the food. Or

54:11

like you said what they're going

54:13

to replace it with. So let's

54:16

look at you know the bigger

54:18

picture. Well there is that yes

54:20

asking the questions you know really

54:22

starting to be you know brave

54:25

and courageous and and and ask

54:27

the questions and say well okay

54:29

that's what you say but what

54:32

about... you know what about what

54:34

about I actually have to I

54:36

have a question to ideas of

54:38

accountability yes yes I I've got

54:41

a question I've pointed this out

54:43

for a long time and I've

54:45

always received like a mix of

54:47

hey that's a good point or

54:50

you just deny vaccines okay well

54:52

this has nothing to do with

54:54

vaccines but let's just you have

54:56

this you in plan I just

54:59

showed it to you but if

55:01

you think about these sustainable development

55:03

goals or whether they're health related

55:05

or whatever This is on an

55:08

international level. I mean, there's even

55:10

little tiny, these little UN squares,

55:12

like the Green Square, for example,

55:14

for point number three of the

55:17

17 goals. I've seen them at

55:19

some of the train stations over

55:21

here in Japan. Now, it's not

55:24

really accepted or talked about over

55:26

here like it is in the

55:28

US. I'd say we're probably like

55:30

15, 20 years behind the Western

55:33

world, if not more, because a

55:35

lot of the problems that exist

55:37

over there don't exist over here.

55:39

Now they have a lot of

55:42

heart attacks over here because they

55:44

work themselves to death. They don't

55:46

have a lot of heart attacks

55:48

because of poor diets and lifestyle

55:51

conditions otherwise, which brings me to

55:53

my point. While we're having discussions

55:55

about things like a vaccine or

55:57

things, the virus killed everybody or

56:00

the vaccine killed everybody, I try

56:02

to point things like this out,

56:04

official statistics. Here's heart disease in

56:06

the United States Don. The leading

56:09

cause of death, a true... pandemic

56:11

or whatever you choose to call

56:13

it. It's the leading cause of

56:16

death not only for men but

56:18

for women too and women are

56:20

very quickly catching up with men.

56:22

And one person, they estimate dies

56:25

of heart disease every 33 seconds.

56:27

We're talking hundreds of thousands of

56:29

people to the tune of hundreds

56:31

of billions of dollars that could

56:34

be removed from the equation from

56:36

the equation from the equation from

56:38

the equation of should we have

56:40

universal health care or should we

56:43

have people privately paid for it?

56:45

It's like, well, why don't we

56:47

just address the source of one

56:49

of the major killers in the

56:52

United States and if we were

56:54

able to address the source of

56:56

that, we wouldn't even have to

56:58

have to have a giant chunk

57:01

of this. argument in the first

57:03

place. This is a big problem

57:05

and yet it's just kind of

57:07

ignored. Now there was a guy,

57:10

Herschel Walker, former football player, who

57:12

brought this up about diabetes at

57:14

a debate when he was running

57:17

for the Senate and Georgia. And

57:19

the Republicans, because he was running

57:21

for Republican, Republican spot, both Republicans

57:23

and Democrats, all simultaneously agreed. This

57:26

guy's crazy. He said... Sure, it's

57:28

good to have insulin, but insulin

57:30

doesn't really matter if you're not

57:32

eating right. Everybody booed. Republicans and

57:35

Democrats came together and said, boo!

57:37

You can't tell people to eat,

57:39

right? That's not the cause of

57:41

their problems, which is what makes

57:44

me think when you add in

57:46

all of these other conditions, heart

57:48

disease, cancer. They say COVID, but

57:50

that's of course reclassified, chronic lower

57:53

respiratory disease, Alzheimer's, diabetes. There's a

57:55

litany of reasons why... these are

57:57

leading conditions in the US and

57:59

why the US is really good

58:02

at exporting this elsewhere in the

58:04

world too. But at the root

58:06

core of it all, with all

58:09

the money we spend, with all

58:11

the health care, all the vaccines,

58:13

I mean all of this actually

58:15

kind of disapproves all the mainstream

58:18

and all the alternative explanations for

58:20

anything and everything and it certainly

58:22

disproves the idea that germs at

58:24

a leading cause of death. It's

58:27

not. Even if that theory were

58:29

applicable, it's not germs aren't causing

58:31

the heart disease. They're not causing

58:33

the cancer. They're not causing the

58:36

strokes or the respiratory disease or

58:38

the Alzheimer's. diabetes. We're doing that

58:40

for the most part. It's really

58:42

interesting that when you start looking

58:45

at a lot of these diseases

58:47

they're trying to see if they

58:49

can find infections that are connected

58:51

to, certainly with some cancers. they're

58:54

trying to connect them to various

58:56

germs, should we say, either bacterial

58:58

viruses, which is nonsense as well.

59:01

So they're trying to introduce the

59:03

idea that there are germ causes

59:05

of these, as you say, leading

59:07

causes of death, these conditions. So

59:10

heart disease and cancer are the

59:12

top to... and well there you

59:14

are that that's what I mean

59:16

they're trying to yeah that's completely

59:19

untrue as well now with the

59:21

heart disease and cancer being the

59:23

leading cause of death I would

59:25

like to see that broken down

59:28

between the people who are taking

59:30

air quotes medications and those who

59:32

are not So if, because I

59:34

would say that a lot of

59:37

the complications or the lot of

59:39

the problems are the result of

59:41

people having a condition that is

59:43

then exacerbated by the so-called pharmaceuticals

59:46

they're then given, because a lot

59:48

of people once they get to

59:50

a certain age in this country

59:53

are put on various... I was

59:55

saying about this, it's very hard

59:57

for me to call them medications

59:59

but anyway that's what they called.

1:00:02

I had a conversation, was it

1:00:04

somebody fairly recently, they're talking about

1:00:06

a friend who was I think

1:00:08

she was 70 or something and

1:00:11

she's on statins and she was

1:00:13

asked well why? Well my doctor

1:00:15

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1:00:17

supposed to take them you know

1:00:20

it was good for me or

1:00:22

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you know taking statins and and

1:00:31

it seems to be normal for

1:00:33

people of a certain age to

1:00:35

be recommended to start taking these

1:00:38

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it's, you know, to prevent them

1:00:42

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1:00:44

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1:00:47

anything and there's an awful lot

1:00:49

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1:00:51

are often called side effects, but

1:00:54

that they have their own effects.

1:00:56

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1:00:58

medications because they are not health

1:01:00

promoting. So that's one aspect of

1:01:03

it. And I've always wondered, like

1:01:05

if you're looking at the cancer

1:01:07

deaths here from the CDC at

1:01:09

608, 371 average per year in

1:01:12

the United States, how many of

1:01:14

those are caused by chemotherapy and

1:01:16

radiation? How many of the strokes?

1:01:18

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1:01:21

yeah, exactly, yes. Yes,

1:01:23

how many of those cancer deaths

1:01:25

are people who were taking so-called

1:01:27

medication? What about, you know, the

1:01:30

people with so-called heart disease, had

1:01:32

they been on medication? Now, that's

1:01:34

not to say that's the only

1:01:37

cause, but that's one of the

1:01:39

aspects that's missing from the discussion.

1:01:41

And again, it's... It's not a

1:01:43

question of one thing because that's

1:01:46

the whole thing with the germ

1:01:48

theory. Oh, it's one virus causes

1:01:50

one disease. Well, no, and it's

1:01:53

the same with all health problems.

1:01:55

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1:01:57

factors, you know, different combinations for

1:01:59

different people. depending on their environment,

1:02:02

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1:02:04

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1:02:06

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1:02:09

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1:02:11

they could be a story in

1:02:13

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1:02:15

cancer runs in the family, for

1:02:18

example. And that may make some

1:02:20

people live in fear that they

1:02:22

will get it. And because of

1:02:24

the... placebo noceba effect that can

1:02:27

actually manifest people can manifest these

1:02:29

conditions out simply out of that

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fear as well as the the

1:02:34

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1:02:36

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1:02:38

the other family members who may

1:02:40

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1:02:43

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1:02:45

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1:02:47

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is just butchery. And that's not

1:03:41

proven. Yes, and that's not proven.

1:03:43

You know, the BRCA2 gene that

1:03:45

apparently is supposed to be associated

1:03:47

with breast cancer can be found

1:03:49

in women without hitting and is

1:03:51

sometimes found not. found in women

1:03:53

who have been given the diagnosis

1:03:56

of cancer. You know and there's

1:03:58

that whole which we'll get into

1:04:00

when we talk about assisted dying

1:04:02

with with just being given the

1:04:04

diagnosis the label because people have

1:04:06

all kinds of fears attached to

1:04:08

that particular label you know and

1:04:10

it's given a meaning the authorities

1:04:12

the experts give it a meaning

1:04:15

that we can do you know

1:04:17

we can give you this medication

1:04:19

but it's something you'll have for

1:04:21

the rest of your life you'll

1:04:23

have to take this medicine for

1:04:25

the rest of your life and

1:04:27

of course we know that these

1:04:29

pharmaceuticals have side effects and so

1:04:31

there are other ongoing pharmaceuticals that

1:04:33

need to be taken for the

1:04:36

side effects and then you get

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this this whole vicious cycle of

1:04:40

people being on 10, 15, 20

1:04:42

different... drugs, you know, daily. Yes,

1:04:44

and that's just horrifying. I have

1:04:46

something I want to share with

1:04:48

you. In fact, I could actually

1:04:50

go get it. It's in the

1:04:52

other room, but it's a, it's

1:04:55

like a magazine booklet that my

1:04:57

wife got from the company she

1:04:59

works for. She works for a

1:05:01

big company in travel, and they

1:05:03

send it out, I think, twice

1:05:05

a year, and I couldn't read

1:05:07

most of it, because it was

1:05:09

very complex kanji. But I understood

1:05:11

a little bit and she told

1:05:14

me what it was. She said

1:05:16

this is like our health booklet.

1:05:18

And I said, what's that? She

1:05:20

said, what's our like, you know,

1:05:22

biannual health screening. And she said,

1:05:24

you don't have to go through

1:05:26

the whole screening because I'm talking,

1:05:28

it was, it was a thick

1:05:30

little magazine of all these different

1:05:33

things to check. You just go

1:05:35

through a basic screening. Companies do

1:05:37

it, government wants all residents and

1:05:39

citizens to have like a health

1:05:41

screen. But the bottom line is

1:05:43

this. The solution isn't like, oh,

1:05:45

you have to get a bunch

1:05:47

of drugs and do this. They

1:05:49

send with the magazine, and again,

1:05:51

I could show this to you,

1:05:54

like little pamphlets or paper. on

1:05:56

how to maintain your health. So

1:05:58

yeah, I mean, for the record

1:06:00

too, you know, you might be

1:06:02

able to find something like that

1:06:04

at a doctor's office, hey, eat

1:06:06

more broccoli or something like this.

1:06:08

But they have a whole pamphlet

1:06:10

on onsons. I had never been

1:06:13

to an onsons. I've tried just

1:06:15

basic, you know, hot water therapy

1:06:17

here, and I can tell you

1:06:19

without ever even thinking about it.

1:06:21

It helped my skin, which I've

1:06:23

never had any cream, drug, lotion,

1:06:25

or potion, help my skin, but

1:06:27

a little bit of dip in

1:06:29

that hot water, the onsen water,

1:06:32

skin is like completely different. Like

1:06:34

even her skin, she went to

1:06:36

an onsen for two days, her

1:06:38

skin has been soft for like

1:06:40

two weeks, dry skin clears up.

1:06:42

That's just from like free, onsen

1:06:44

you have to pay for most

1:06:46

of the time, but it's like

1:06:48

free water that you get from

1:06:51

the earth, essentially. And the company

1:06:53

is saying this is, you know,

1:06:55

it's a very classical, traditional Japanese

1:06:57

thing, but this is like one

1:06:59

way to stay healthy. And they

1:07:01

got a whole bunch of other

1:07:03

stuff in this pamphlet too of

1:07:05

like, yeah, the way to eat

1:07:07

and the way to reduce stress.

1:07:10

And sure, you might find that

1:07:12

here or there in the US,

1:07:14

but this has been my big

1:07:16

critique of the Make America Healthy

1:07:18

movement and a lot of the

1:07:20

alternative media is that if you're

1:07:22

going to have this movement to

1:07:24

make America healthy. Not only do

1:07:26

you have to go a step

1:07:28

further than banning a food collaring

1:07:31

by the year 20,000 But you

1:07:33

also have to do something else

1:07:35

you have there has to be

1:07:37

a cultural change and You know

1:07:39

here in Japan. It's not like

1:07:41

people are healthier or in the

1:07:43

Eastern world in general most Asian

1:07:45

countries are a lot healthier in

1:07:47

Asians in the US too. It's

1:07:50

a cultural thing. It's not they're

1:07:52

not healthy because the US too.

1:07:54

That's that's why and you're not

1:07:56

going to change anything in the

1:07:58

United States if there isn't a

1:08:00

cultural shift. And I think that

1:08:02

is a critical, not just the

1:08:04

U.S., but it's a critical point

1:08:06

that is missing from most conversations

1:08:09

about this Don. I don't care

1:08:11

how many agencies RFK Jr. cuts

1:08:13

the core of them out and

1:08:15

redoes them or gets rid of

1:08:17

them or how many vaccine studies

1:08:19

they produce to show vaccines or

1:08:21

poisonous. If you don't change the

1:08:23

cultural aspects of food and the

1:08:25

perceptions of health, all of that

1:08:28

is irrelevant. I

1:08:30

agree. Yes, it has to start

1:08:32

from the root. And the root

1:08:35

is how do we help our

1:08:37

bodies be healthy? And that means

1:08:39

paying attention to everything we put

1:08:41

in it and on it. We

1:08:44

expose ourselves to, we expose our

1:08:46

minds to it. It is a

1:08:48

complete shift. It's not, and that's

1:08:50

why they don't want to change

1:08:53

that because that makes us responsible

1:08:55

for ourselves. and not deferring our

1:08:57

authority to these external agencies because

1:08:59

that's they'll lose control when we

1:09:02

say no I'm going to take

1:09:04

my health into my own hands

1:09:06

thank you very much that's pretty

1:09:08

much I think the bottom line

1:09:11

yes yes because they then lose

1:09:13

control now I am aware of

1:09:15

various people who are promoting that

1:09:17

idea that we take responsibility for

1:09:20

our own actions. Now that does

1:09:22

require people to make a complete

1:09:24

shift in how they approach everything

1:09:26

in their lives. But because the

1:09:29

whole COVID thing was the starting

1:09:31

point, then at least to start

1:09:33

with your health, because there's so

1:09:35

much involved in with that, that

1:09:38

if you can... the more you

1:09:40

can do to take back control

1:09:42

over your own health, look at

1:09:44

what you're eating, drinking exposed to,

1:09:47

then the healthier you are, the

1:09:49

more... able you are to look

1:09:51

at all these other aspects of

1:09:53

life and start taking responsibility in

1:09:56

those areas. By finding out what

1:09:58

really makes you ill? Yes, it

1:10:00

is a big shift and it

1:10:02

is to do what we can,

1:10:05

you know. Sometimes it might take

1:10:07

a few small steps, but sometimes

1:10:09

just those small steps can be

1:10:11

enough, which is to source for

1:10:14

real food and reject processed manufactured

1:10:16

food products, you know, food like

1:10:18

substances. You know, I mean, RFK

1:10:20

on that is correct, you know,

1:10:23

on that particular point, you know,

1:10:25

just say, well, is that real

1:10:27

food? And this is not about,

1:10:29

you know, whether people eat meat

1:10:32

or whatever it's not about the

1:10:34

diet thing. It's actually about a

1:10:36

different approach towards what you're actually

1:10:39

putting in your body. Is this

1:10:41

food that will nourish my body?

1:10:43

So that's the starting point. Is

1:10:45

the water clean? What can we

1:10:48

do to make sure the water

1:10:50

is clean? Because water is actually

1:10:52

incredibly important. We are, you know,

1:10:54

our bodies are water-based and it's

1:10:57

really important that we keep our

1:10:59

bodies hydrated with good clean water.

1:11:01

I'm sorry, go ahead, you're probably

1:11:03

going to reference the experiments of

1:11:06

Masarimoto? Exactly, yes, yes. The water

1:11:08

over here is, for the most

1:11:10

part, extremely clean and no fluoride,

1:11:12

and it's totally different. I'm not

1:11:15

saying it's the best, and there's

1:11:17

all kinds of health problems over

1:11:19

here too, but they're not, it's

1:11:21

not the same as in the

1:11:24

United States, but the water over

1:11:26

here is very, very clean. If

1:11:28

you ever come over here, you've

1:11:30

got to have a glass of

1:11:33

water. It's very good water. Oh,

1:11:35

I definitely would, yes. Yes, it

1:11:37

is the culture as well, you

1:11:39

know, the approach in the attitude.

1:11:42

Whereas, you know, the images that

1:11:44

we see of, you know, Chinese

1:11:46

and Japanese people taking their time

1:11:48

out being outside, doing their different

1:11:51

exercises and the, it's all very

1:11:53

calm and relaxing, whereas everything, if

1:11:55

you like, in America, feels like

1:11:57

it's all rush, rush, rush, Russian

1:12:00

stress. And that is another really

1:12:02

important factor, you know, the stress.

1:12:04

But going back to the Saramoto

1:12:06

experiments that you cannot emphasize that

1:12:09

point strongly enough that it was

1:12:11

clear that the emotion behind the

1:12:13

words given to the water does

1:12:15

change the structure of the water.

1:12:18

And because we are, I think

1:12:20

70% by volume of water, then

1:12:22

we need to think about how

1:12:24

we're talking to ourselves. just the

1:12:27

physical food and water that we're

1:12:29

drinking or the substances we're putting

1:12:31

in and on our body, it's

1:12:33

how we're talking to ourselves. You

1:12:36

know, so it's that mental, mentally

1:12:38

emotional and spiritual aspect of how

1:12:40

we are, how we perceive ourselves,

1:12:42

how we talk to ourselves, how

1:12:45

we allow ourselves to be spoken

1:12:47

to. So taking responsibility has... so

1:12:49

many aspects to it in terms

1:12:51

of empowering ourselves to to think

1:12:54

more highly of ourselves if you

1:12:56

like is that you know self-worth

1:12:58

self-respect and that gives us the

1:13:00

confidence which then speaks more to

1:13:03

how we carry ourselves and then

1:13:05

how we put ourselves across and

1:13:07

that then ripples out to other

1:13:09

people so it is that energetic

1:13:12

aspect as well as the physical

1:13:14

aspect so that's where the Like

1:13:16

you were saying, the cultural change

1:13:18

is not just in, well we

1:13:21

need to just stop eating McDonald's

1:13:23

and eat good food. That's one

1:13:25

part of it. There are many

1:13:27

parts, and as you say, it's

1:13:30

the culture, it's the whole approach

1:13:32

to life. Yes, yes. I want

1:13:34

to give you an example of

1:13:36

this because this is, it bugged

1:13:39

me, and I didn't really want

1:13:41

to do a whole show in

1:13:43

it, but I wanted to reference

1:13:45

it. I did a show a

1:13:48

couple of months ago, and if

1:13:50

I could pull up all the

1:13:52

data, it would take an hour

1:13:54

probably, but you can verify this

1:13:57

yourself by federal data in the

1:13:59

United States. for all the listeners

1:14:01

who want to go look it

1:14:03

up or email me later maybe

1:14:06

I can send it to you.

1:14:08

The bottom line is this, in

1:14:10

the United States, blacks and Hispanics

1:14:12

tend to fare far worse when

1:14:15

it comes to heart disease, diabetes,

1:14:17

they tend to be the the

1:14:19

unhealthiest groups. White people, which is,

1:14:21

I mean it's kind of a

1:14:24

misnomer, what do you consider to

1:14:26

be white, it's kind of a

1:14:28

relatively new invention of a word

1:14:30

or an identification or class, but

1:14:33

white people tend to fare a

1:14:35

little bit better, and a lot

1:14:37

of has to do with diet.

1:14:39

And across the board in the

1:14:42

United States, I think in every

1:14:44

category minus one or two, Asians,

1:14:46

all Asians, it doesn't matter, Japanese,

1:14:48

Chinese, whatever. All Asians are the

1:14:51

healthiest, but Asians also tend to

1:14:53

eat a tremendous amount of rice

1:14:55

and vegetables compared to these other

1:14:57

groups, with the exception of kind

1:15:00

of the bean paradox of Hispanics

1:15:02

of Hispanics. And then if you

1:15:04

look at drug use and alcohol

1:15:06

use. across the board. Asians use

1:15:09

the least amount of drugs and

1:15:11

alcohol. You start to add it

1:15:13

up, less alcohol, less drugs, more

1:15:16

vegetables, more rice, and other sorts

1:15:18

of spiritual practices. And across the

1:15:20

board in the United States, according

1:15:22

to federal data, it shows that

1:15:25

they are the healthiest and live

1:15:27

the longest and look the youngest.

1:15:29

That's not just all they have

1:15:31

good genes. There's a reason for

1:15:34

that, and it's a really obvious

1:15:36

reason that's backed up by federal

1:15:38

data that's totally ignored in most

1:15:40

of these conversations when we're talking

1:15:43

about this on a national level.

1:15:45

And I want to go a

1:15:47

step further. I've listened to, I

1:15:49

mean, I like Alex Jones because

1:15:52

it's entertainment. I can't do it

1:15:54

much anymore because of the hyperpolitical

1:15:56

stuff, Don, I know you feel

1:15:58

the same way, but I watched

1:16:01

this interview that he did with

1:16:03

this woman here, who is, her

1:16:05

name is Mary Flynn, O'Neill, I

1:16:07

guess she's related to the General

1:16:10

Flynn. But in this interview, just

1:16:12

very quick, I'm just gonna bring

1:16:14

this up, in this interview, she

1:16:16

and Alex are talking about Reiki.

1:16:19

and they're talking about things like,

1:16:21

they don't reference Kigong, but something

1:16:23

like Kigong, but Reiki, reflexology, yoga,

1:16:25

things of this nature, which are

1:16:28

considered obviously Eastern practices. And really

1:16:30

if you break down Kigong, because

1:16:32

I've done Kigong, or Chigong, really

1:16:34

it's pronounced Chigong, it's kind of

1:16:37

like working with, if we're talking

1:16:39

about this religiously, which is what

1:16:41

they were, it's kind of like

1:16:43

working with the Holy Spirit. because

1:16:46

you're working with the energy of

1:16:48

the body, you're working with the

1:16:50

spirit, the soul. Now in this

1:16:52

interview, which is super right wing,

1:16:55

super Christian, super mega, super maha,

1:16:57

they're saying things like yoga and

1:16:59

Reiki are of the devil. They're

1:17:01

demonic. Stretching is demonic. What the

1:17:04

hell is this woman talking, which

1:17:06

is what got me really listening

1:17:08

to it. Alex will just kind

1:17:10

of... do anything so I don't

1:17:13

really put it. But there are

1:17:15

people like this woman who say

1:17:17

things like Reiki is demonic, reflexology

1:17:19

is demonic, she didn't say acupuncture,

1:17:22

but acupuncture, pronic breathing, which is

1:17:24

just breathing. So in other words,

1:17:26

proper breathing and stretching is demonic,

1:17:28

which is what made me think,

1:17:31

well, okay. So in my mind,

1:17:33

especially living over here now where

1:17:35

there's like Buddhist temples everywhere in

1:17:37

Shinto shrines, I'm thinking, well. Well,

1:17:40

that makes a lot of sense.

1:17:42

That makes a lot of sense.

1:17:44

Okay, these Christians don't want to

1:17:46

stretch and don't want to breathe,

1:17:49

so that's why 60% of the

1:17:51

country is over. or more, 70%

1:17:53

is overweight, 40% plus is morbidly

1:17:55

obese. And that's why in Buddhist

1:17:58

countries, which put a heavy focus

1:18:00

on praying and cleaning and eating

1:18:02

vegetables, everybody is healthy, for the

1:18:04

most part, minus a few exceptions.

1:18:07

So not only do you not

1:18:09

have to have like Western Christian

1:18:11

values to have that kind of

1:18:13

society. But it seems like the

1:18:16

Christian Western world has lost its

1:18:18

mind to the point that's gone

1:18:20

to the point where if you

1:18:22

stretch, it's the devil. If you

1:18:25

breathe properly, it's the devil. I

1:18:27

don't know if that's just an

1:18:29

isolated thing, but I heard that.

1:18:31

And I was like, whoa, that's

1:18:34

next level. I don't want to

1:18:36

waste a whole show in that,

1:18:38

but I had to mention that

1:18:40

to you. And this is part

1:18:43

of the problem. I'm stunned when

1:18:45

you were saying, you know, they

1:18:47

were talking about it. I thought

1:18:49

you were going to say in

1:18:52

a positive way, so that they're

1:18:54

starting to, you know, put that

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aspect of us, you know, the

1:19:36

sort of the energy of, and

1:19:39

I mean, there's so much to

1:19:41

that. And when you said demonic,

1:19:43

it was, you could see by

1:19:45

expression on my face, I was

1:19:47

horrified. It was like, what? That's

1:19:49

just outrageous. And absolutely untrue. I

1:19:52

mean, there's just no evidence for

1:19:54

that at all. No. You could

1:19:56

say that. And yet how many

1:19:58

millions of people would have seen

1:20:00

that. Oh, tens of. millions and

1:20:03

more later. I mean I conceptually

1:20:05

I understand if you really dug

1:20:07

into it like people that go

1:20:09

into states of like hyperventilating and

1:20:11

trying to like contact spirits and

1:20:13

yeah like you I guess you

1:20:16

could say that that not I

1:20:18

wouldn't say it's demonic but that

1:20:20

could be dangerous more so because

1:20:22

you can You're causing things to

1:20:24

change in the body that you're

1:20:26

not really in full control of

1:20:29

and that I mean that maybe

1:20:31

that causes problems But like if

1:20:33

I go like this in my

1:20:35

chair and Stretch my back because

1:20:37

I've been sitting here for an

1:20:39

hour and 15 minutes That doesn't

1:20:42

mean I worship Asmodius. It just

1:20:44

means I'm going to readjust my

1:20:46

back and my muscles and if

1:20:48

that's the level of health advice

1:20:50

especially from the mega maha movement

1:20:53

Obviously separating RFK junior from that

1:20:55

Quite frankly, the United States is

1:20:57

fucked. Let's put it that way.

1:20:59

Yes, I mean, if that's part

1:21:01

of that movement, then that's, it's

1:21:03

going in two directions at the

1:21:06

same time. Yeah, it's being pulled

1:21:08

apart. It's got some aspects that

1:21:10

seem to be moving in. Yeah,

1:21:12

yeah. So it's, it's, um... going

1:21:14

to confuse a lot of people

1:21:16

because of because of that because

1:21:19

there'll be some people who think

1:21:21

oh this is good you know

1:21:23

they're questioning vaccines they're questioning die

1:21:25

food dies and now they're questioning

1:21:27

Reiki. Yes, go on, they're stretching,

1:21:30

but yes, I mean, they're stretching.

1:21:32

Well, she's not a representative of

1:21:34

Maha, but she's part of that

1:21:36

right-wing, mega-Christian, Trump movement, which, you're

1:21:38

right, has fractured, so that you

1:21:40

have half of it saying, don't

1:21:43

take my soda away. and you

1:21:45

have a president who's a big

1:21:47

fan of soda and a big

1:21:49

fan of McDonald's, and you have

1:21:51

the other half that are, I

1:21:53

think, in good faith trying to

1:21:56

make things better, and people are

1:21:58

celebrating like, yeah, remove red dye

1:22:00

by 2029. It's like, well, Europe

1:22:02

did that decades ago, and most

1:22:04

countries, if at the very least,

1:22:06

if that's a good thing, maybe

1:22:09

don't celebrate because you came in

1:22:11

last place a week after the

1:22:13

race was over. Have some context

1:22:15

that the rest of the world

1:22:17

already doesn't do this so when

1:22:20

you stop stop doing it in

1:22:22

five years You didn't win anything.

1:22:24

Just that bugs me Don Yes,

1:22:26

if they're saying 2029. It's like

1:22:28

no Follow the you know Sorry,

1:22:30

I can't remember West Virginia Morsi

1:22:33

the yeah, yes, do it now

1:22:35

Do it this year. Do it

1:22:37

this year. Yes, do it this

1:22:39

year. Do it this year. Do

1:22:41

it this year. Do it this

1:22:43

year. Yes. Do it this year.

1:22:46

Do it this year. This year.

1:22:48

This year. This year do it

1:22:50

this year do it. This year

1:22:52

do it. This year do it

1:22:54

And even those, you know, that

1:22:57

have, yes, it's a handful of

1:22:59

dies, it's not everything, it's a

1:23:01

start. And this also goes into

1:23:03

the other aspect, which is bringing

1:23:05

in legislation to stop things, rather

1:23:07

than something that could happen much

1:23:10

more quickly, which is, which tends

1:23:12

to be where I focus my

1:23:14

work, which is informing people. So

1:23:16

that they make informed decisions so

1:23:18

that if people stop buying the

1:23:20

foods that have these dies It's

1:23:23

gone. You know those products are

1:23:25

gone Well look at because people

1:23:27

say no we don't want that

1:23:29

That's a great point. I'm gonna

1:23:31

I'm gonna make one observation then

1:23:34

I want to pass it back

1:23:36

to you to continue to go

1:23:38

through your sub stack article and

1:23:40

we'll talk about the assisted death

1:23:42

or assisted suicide wherever they're calling

1:23:44

now. But I think a great

1:23:47

example of that and I interviewed

1:23:49

this woman a long time ago.

1:23:51

I'd love to interview her again.

1:23:53

I don't know her so I

1:23:55

maybe I disagree with her. her

1:23:57

own some things, but the woman

1:24:00

that founded moms across America, she's

1:24:02

a great example of this. The

1:24:04

woman that founded moms across America

1:24:06

is in Honeycutt, she had all

1:24:08

these problems with her kid, she

1:24:10

changed the diet, problems stopped happening

1:24:13

and didn't have to use drugs

1:24:15

or vaccines to do it, so

1:24:17

she realized, oh, oh, we would

1:24:19

lied to. So then she started

1:24:21

kind of a movement, and I'm

1:24:24

not saying I agree with everything.

1:24:26

but it's gotten to the point

1:24:28

now where they've been able to

1:24:30

through lab tests and you can

1:24:32

see the actual lab test if

1:24:34

you want to read them I

1:24:37

could send them to you as

1:24:39

a listener or you done but

1:24:41

they've done little analysis of like

1:24:43

Girl Scout cookies for example and

1:24:45

found that they are overloaded with

1:24:47

heavy metals and glyphosate and it's

1:24:50

basically poison and it should not

1:24:52

be consumed. And a friend of

1:24:54

mine, his name is Mike D,

1:24:56

he was on the show with

1:24:58

me a couple of weeks ago

1:25:01

and we actually did, he found

1:25:03

the old Girl Scout cookie boxes

1:25:05

and we compared the ingredients. And

1:25:07

it's night and day, it's like

1:25:09

looking at US ingredients as opposed

1:25:11

to how even the UK has

1:25:14

stricter guidelines than the US does,

1:25:16

the European Union in general does.

1:25:18

But we looked at them, they're

1:25:20

totally like a peanut butter cookie,

1:25:22

had four or five food dies

1:25:24

in it. just a peanut butter

1:25:27

cookie. So moms across America has

1:25:29

kind of with their movement expose

1:25:31

that. And really, I mean, I'm

1:25:33

not opposed to RFK Jr. making

1:25:35

changes, but my goodness, a mom

1:25:37

who realized her kid was sick

1:25:40

because they were being poisoned has

1:25:42

done more for health than any

1:25:44

government legislation in any state or

1:25:46

in any federal level ever. Case

1:25:48

in point. And that's just one

1:25:51

person. And there's plenty of other

1:25:53

examples like... like that. I mean,

1:25:55

hey, I know because I've had

1:25:57

people email me done. People have

1:25:59

listened to this show and they've

1:26:01

gotten healthier because they've not taken

1:26:04

advice, but they've just gone and

1:26:06

looked at ingredient lists and were

1:26:08

like, why am I eating this?

1:26:10

I never read this before. people

1:26:12

email me I lost weight I

1:26:14

feel better it's like that's amazing

1:26:17

and I didn't have to pass

1:26:19

legislation to do that if you

1:26:21

got to pass legislation to force

1:26:23

people again you're dealing with a

1:26:25

cultural issue that persists that's not

1:26:28

that's not going to change otherwise

1:26:30

no and relying on legislation is

1:26:32

not is definitely not the way

1:26:34

because again this is about taking

1:26:36

responsibility. Yes, I looked at that

1:26:38

article. They were saying that the

1:26:41

peanut butter cookies were one of

1:26:43

the worst. And I know in

1:26:45

the states, or unless that's changed

1:26:47

since I looked at the article

1:26:49

that gave me the information that's

1:26:51

in what really makes you ill,

1:26:54

is that peanuts are grown in

1:26:56

rotation with cotton crops in the

1:26:58

states and they use... a huge

1:27:00

amount of glyphosate and all kinds

1:27:02

of chemicals on the cotton crops

1:27:04

because it's not a food crop.

1:27:07

So when the peanuts are then

1:27:09

grown in the same soil in

1:27:11

that rotation, they will get, you

1:27:13

know, the peanut plant will... uptake

1:27:15

a lot of those chemicals, particularly

1:27:18

glyphosate. And that is more likely

1:27:20

to be the cause of what

1:27:22

is called peanut allergies, not because

1:27:24

it's the peanuts per se, it's

1:27:26

what's in them. So people, I'm

1:27:28

aware, you know, people say, you

1:27:31

know, well, if they eat organic

1:27:33

peanut butter, which means, you know,

1:27:35

it's the peanuts have not been

1:27:37

grown with glyphosate, you know, they've

1:27:39

been grown organically. the problems disappear.

1:27:41

So again, it's looking at ingredients

1:27:44

and it's being discerning, it's understanding

1:27:46

the food industry, it's looking at

1:27:48

what's in these different products and

1:27:50

saying, well, is that actually food?

1:27:52

And you know, some people say,

1:27:55

well, if you can't pronounce it,

1:27:57

why would you eat it? Yes,

1:28:00

and some of the yes,

1:28:02

you know, yeah, I'm just

1:28:04

showing for listeners who heard

1:28:06

just audio only I'm showing

1:28:08

the list of delicious Girl

1:28:11

Scout cookie ingredients and yes,

1:28:13

they have changed some of

1:28:15

these they've made them worse

1:28:17

for the record But some

1:28:19

of these are it just

1:28:21

it makes it's not food.

1:28:23

It's a food like product

1:28:25

Anyway, I think listeners for

1:28:27

the most part know that

1:28:29

if they listen to this

1:28:31

show so if you'd like

1:28:33

to go back to your

1:28:35

article about the diseases and

1:28:37

the links to the idea

1:28:39

of climate change, which is

1:28:41

part of what we were

1:28:43

just discussing, trying to, well

1:28:45

as people say pass the

1:28:47

buck, it's always something else

1:28:49

that's responsible. The virus killed

1:28:51

everybody, the vaccine killed everybody,

1:28:53

it's climate change killing everybody,

1:28:55

or now nothing happens naturally,

1:28:58

it's always a directed energy

1:29:00

weapon. Now it can't be

1:29:02

that companies were negligent or

1:29:04

that arsonist started fires, there's

1:29:06

always some... other thing that's

1:29:08

responsible not that those weapons

1:29:10

don't exist I get it

1:29:12

but it's there's always something

1:29:14

else responsible so let's go

1:29:16

back to your sub stack

1:29:18

article and then I do

1:29:20

want to talk about the

1:29:22

assisted suicide or whatever they're

1:29:24

choosing to call it now

1:29:26

go ahead Don yes the

1:29:28

with the with that article

1:29:30

the they were trying to

1:29:32

make the point the a

1:29:34

second child had died of

1:29:36

measles but they're talking about

1:29:38

a Texas outbreak and they

1:29:40

were saying the the important

1:29:42

point the the school age

1:29:45

child was not vaccinated. So

1:29:47

that's of death, literally as

1:29:49

you've got on the screen,

1:29:51

the school age child was

1:29:53

not vaccinated, had no underlying

1:29:55

health conditions and was in

1:29:57

hospital suffering complications from measles.

1:29:59

Well, I actually looked further

1:30:01

into that and discovered, well,

1:30:03

in fact, a helpful reader

1:30:05

sent me a link where

1:30:07

it was RFK who had

1:30:09

spoken. to, well, attended the

1:30:11

funeral and had spoken to

1:30:13

the family of the girl

1:30:15

who died and he discovered

1:30:17

that she had recovered from

1:30:19

so-called measles and said that

1:30:21

what she'd apparently died from

1:30:23

was a bacteriological infection. So

1:30:25

of course that's keeping the

1:30:27

germ theory alive but saying

1:30:29

well it's not measles, it's

1:30:32

now bacteria. So that again

1:30:34

is misleading because there are

1:30:36

no bacterial infections, it's the

1:30:38

same problem with viruses because

1:30:40

bacteria do exist. So is

1:30:42

just keeping this fear going

1:30:44

for people. So within that

1:30:46

article I did actually go

1:30:48

back to the original or

1:30:50

the foundational paper that is

1:30:52

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1:31:27

virology and really show how

1:31:30

that doesn't prove anything. And

1:31:32

at the same time. That's

1:31:35

the 1954 study, right? That's

1:31:37

the one, yes. Propagation. So

1:31:39

I'm going to read this

1:31:42

for listeners who are just

1:31:44

audio only. Propagation in tissue

1:31:47

cultures of cytopathogenic agents from

1:31:49

patients with It was authored

1:31:51

by John Enders and Thomas

1:31:54

Peebles. You can find it

1:31:56

obviously in your sub stack

1:31:58

or you can read it

1:32:01

on the screen right now

1:32:03

if you're watching video. Go

1:32:06

ahead Don. Yes, so it's

1:32:08

showing that even within that

1:32:10

paper which is used as

1:32:13

the foundational paper for all

1:32:15

subsequent virology studies that they

1:32:18

said that the cytopathic effects,

1:32:20

which is the cell death,

1:32:22

may have been caused by...

1:32:25

other unknown factors. In other

1:32:27

words, it was not definitive

1:32:30

that it was caused by

1:32:32

this virus. And this, to

1:32:34

me, is possibly the reason

1:32:37

why they're trying to push

1:32:39

the measles, because those of

1:32:42

us who are sharing this

1:32:44

information about this foundational paper,

1:32:46

because it's based on measles.

1:32:49

And also Dr. Stefan Lanka.

1:32:51

who won a case in

1:32:54

the German Supreme Court, that

1:32:56

as a result of that

1:32:58

they determined that the papers

1:33:01

that were claimed to prove

1:33:03

that the existence of a

1:33:05

measles virus didn't. And so

1:33:08

that's why I think they're

1:33:10

possibly focusing on measles because

1:33:13

they want to... get people

1:33:15

scared and so disregard all

1:33:17

of the kind of information

1:33:20

that we're sharing about the

1:33:22

measles. Maybe that's why they're

1:33:25

focusing on it. I don't

1:33:27

know. I can't guess what

1:33:29

they're trying to do, but

1:33:32

it certainly sounds like desperation

1:33:34

to get people continuing to

1:33:37

believe in these so-called threats

1:33:39

from infectious diseases, but also

1:33:41

it is promoting the... It's

1:33:44

also promoting the 2030 agenda

1:33:46

and wanting to put this

1:33:49

information out to everybody to

1:33:51

get the to help people

1:33:53

in developing so-called developing countries,

1:33:56

you know, especially within Africa

1:33:58

to get the medicines and

1:34:00

vaccines out there to these

1:34:03

people. Again, it's all promoting

1:34:05

the, as I say, the

1:34:08

2030 agenda. And where they

1:34:10

can, they do try and

1:34:12

make the case that some

1:34:15

of these diseases are likely

1:34:17

to be occurring more frequently

1:34:20

because of the increase in...

1:34:22

climate change, you know, the

1:34:24

worsening of climate change, that's

1:34:27

really pushing that narrative and