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a cult, a twisted parody
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of the hippie dream, bound
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together by a warped
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philosophy and a charismatic
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messiah wannabe named Charles
4:11
Manson. Their
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ideology was a chaotic
4:16
blend of Gnostic mumbo
4:18
jumbo and half-baked theology.
4:21
Time didn't exist. But
4:24
an evil were meaningless, and
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death was just a doorway
4:28
to cosmic oneness. Everyone
4:32
was both God and
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the devil, all part
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of some grand interconnected universe.
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It was a seductive message, especially
4:43
for lost souls seeking meaning
4:45
in a turbulent era. But
4:49
beneath, the flower-power facade
4:51
lurked a chilling moral
4:53
code. They wouldn't
4:55
harm a spider, but
4:57
they'd slaughter a human without a
5:00
second thought. Life
5:02
was cheap, death was a
5:04
release, a chance to
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merge with the cosmic cookie. One
5:11
from the man on the streets to
5:13
ivory tower psychiatrists wondered where
5:15
in the world this brutal
5:18
violence had come from. These
5:21
weren't backward savages, they were
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kids from ordinary American towns,
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the kind nobody wanted to claim after
5:29
the bloodbath. Manson
5:32
with his hypnotic gaze
5:34
and messianic delusions had
5:37
tapped into the era's anxieties,
5:40
twisting the hippy dream into a nightmare.
5:43
The family with its free love
5:46
and LSD trips became a
5:48
mirror, reflecting the dark side
5:51
of the counterculture. The
5:55
Tate-Lobianco murders weren't just a
5:57
shock, they were a
5:59
betrayal. The Summer
6:02
of Love had curdled, leaving
6:04
a bitter aftertaste. Hippies
6:07
weren't just harmless dropouts anymore.
6:09
They were a threat, capable
6:12
of unspeakable violence. The
6:15
Manson family had ripped the mask
6:17
off the Peace and Love
6:19
facade, revealing the potential for
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chaos lurking beneath. Sure,
6:25
there had been isolated incidents
6:27
of hippie violence before, but
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nothing like this. The Manson
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murders were cold-blooded, calculated,
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and ordered by a madman. The
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motive was murky. The
6:41
body count uncertain. Some
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estimates put it as high as 33.
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This wasn't
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just another crime, it was
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a turning point. A bloody exclamation
6:53
mark on the end of an era.
6:56
By December, with the
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indictment fresh, Time magazine
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was already drawing shaky links
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between hippies and violence. The
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Manson family had become a symbol, a
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warning, a stain on
7:11
the counterculture that wouldn't wash away.
7:14
The dream was over. The
7:17
nightmare had begun. His
7:22
face, a grotesque mask
7:24
of madness, was suddenly
7:26
everywhere. Charles Manson, the
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35-year-old ex-con who
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orchestrated a reign of terror in
7:33
the summer of 1969, became
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the poster boy for a generation's
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darkest fears. Perhaps the
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embodiment of the Dionysian thrill-seeker,
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a man driven by a
7:44
primal lust for chaos. But
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perhaps he was a product of a
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broken system, a victim of neglect
7:51
and abuse who turned his pain into
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a weapon. Or, as
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with so many things, perhaps
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he was a little bit of both. Manson's
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family was a motley crew
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of lost souls, mostly young
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women, drawn to his magnetic
8:09
personality and twisted ideology. They
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numbered anywhere from two to three
8:14
dozen, and most had been under
8:16
his influence for less than two
8:18
years. Yet they
8:20
were willing to do anything he asked, even
8:23
commit unspeakable acts of violence.
8:27
Manson had mastered the art of
8:29
manipulation, cultivating extreme
8:31
compliance from his followers.
8:36
Our short, unassuming man with a
8:38
troubled past managed to rise to
8:40
become such a powerful figure. It's
8:44
an enigma. Born
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to a teenage mother and an
8:50
absent father, Manson's childhood was a
8:53
series of foster homes, reform
8:55
schools, and petty crimes. He
8:58
learned to survive by any
9:00
means necessary, honing his skills
9:02
as a con artist and manipulator.
9:07
He was eight when his mother was released
9:09
from prison. He had been
9:11
in foster care up until then, and
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barely remembered her. They
9:16
spent the next months with
9:18
a succession of unreliable men
9:20
in questionable neighborhoods. Then
9:23
his mother racked up another arrest for
9:25
grand larceny. Eventually, she
9:28
pursued a traveling salesman in
9:30
Indianapolis, marrying him in 1943 and trying
9:34
to cut back on her drinking. Manson,
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not yet nine, was
9:39
already a truant known to steal
9:42
from local shops. Although
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his mother tried to find a nice
9:47
foster home for him, the estate
9:50
decided to send him to the
9:52
Gibault School for Boys, a
9:54
Catholic institution for troubled youth.
9:57
But he ran away. He
9:59
was caught. and returned only
10:01
to escape again. He
10:03
turned to burglary, then more
10:06
serious crimes. At
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thirteen, he was sent to
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the Indiana Boys' School, a
10:12
tougher institution, where he claimed
10:14
he was raped, not once,
10:17
but repeatedly, over and over
10:19
again. He learned to
10:21
feign madness to protect himself, but
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the trauma likely deepened his
10:26
already fractured psyche. Through
10:29
this turmoil, it is likely that
10:32
Manson developed a hatred of
10:34
the quote-unquote all-American family.
10:37
The idyllic idea of the
10:39
nuclear family, living in
10:41
a comfy house with a car,
10:43
a happy housewife, and
10:45
the suit-wearing, pipe-smoking father was
10:48
something Manson could only experience
10:51
as a spectator from outside
10:53
the fence of polite society.
10:57
Manson was a fighter, then
10:59
refused to stay in an institution
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where a rape was not
11:03
only committed by older boys against
11:05
younger boys, but the staff
11:08
was riddled with pedophiles who acted
11:10
as foxes in a hen house,
11:13
abusing vulnerable young boys systematically.
11:16
Eighteen times did Manson run
11:18
away, and eighteen times
11:21
was he brought kicking and
11:23
screaming back to hell. In
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February 1951, 16-year-old Manson
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embarked on another escape,
11:33
this time with two companions. Their
11:36
stolen car crossed state lines,
11:38
a federal offense, and
11:41
the roadblock in Utah abruptly
11:43
ended their journey. Manson
11:45
was sent to the National
11:47
Training School for Boys in Washington
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DC, beginning a long and troubled
11:52
journey through
11:54
the Federal Reformatory System. His
11:58
path led him from the
12:00
National Training School to the
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Natural Bridge Honor Camp, where
12:05
he was caught violently, anally
12:07
raping a young boy. Then
12:10
he was sent to a federal
12:13
reformatory in Virginia, where he kept
12:15
raping young boys. And
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finally to Ohio, where a
12:19
period of good behavior earned
12:22
him early release in 1954, despite
12:25
frequent concerns about
12:27
his antisocial behavior and
12:30
deep-seated trauma. Less
12:33
than a year later, he had a wife
12:35
and a child on the way. Charles
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Manson, surprisingly, was
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a father. He
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held various jobs, but his
12:45
compulsion for stealing cars, some
12:47
of which he drove across
12:49
state lines, persisted. His
12:52
crimes, along with his failure to attend
12:54
a related hearing, resulted
12:56
in a three-year sentence at
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Terminal Island, a federal prison
13:01
in California. Upon
13:03
his release in 1958, his
13:06
wife had filed for divorce, and
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he turned to pimping. The
13:12
following May, he was arrested again
13:14
for forging a government check. This
13:17
led to another ten-year sentence, but
13:20
a judge, swayed by a woman claiming
13:22
to be in love with him, suspended
13:25
the sentence, setting him free.
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Manson was not deterred or
13:32
convinced to follow the straight and narrow
13:34
path, but continued his life
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of crime, pimping, stealing
13:38
cars, and defrauding people.
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The FBI kept a watchful
13:44
eye, hoping to charge
13:46
him under the MAN Act. Although
13:49
that charge never materialized, when
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Manson fled to Mexico with
13:55
another prostitute, he violated his
13:57
probation and his previous ten
13:59
years' divorce. sentence was
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reinstated. Facing
14:04
long imprisonment, Manson turned
14:06
to the guitar and
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explored Scientology. The
14:12
prison staff noted his charisma
14:14
and storytelling ability, along
14:16
with his persistent personality
14:18
problems. He openly
14:20
expressed his musical ambitions
14:23
and closely followed the Beatles' rise to
14:25
fame. When he was
14:27
finally released at age 32, he
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had spent over half his life
14:33
in state custody. He
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expressed a disturbing preference for prison
14:38
life, even requesting to simply
14:40
stay. Even
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though the mainstream, with
14:46
Time magazine being the main
14:48
perpetrator, made Manson into
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something far more sinister than he
14:52
probably was, other smaller
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independent magazines held a different
14:57
view of him. The
15:00
underground press, as it was called,
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had a swell of sympathy for Manson.
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People thought he was innocent, that
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his status as a left-leaning commune
15:10
had been overblown. Tuesday's
15:14
Child, an L.A.
15:16
counterculture paper geared toward
15:18
occultists, named Manson
15:20
their Man of the Year.
15:23
Some didn't even care if he was behind
15:26
the murders. Bernardine
15:28
Dorn, of the communist
15:30
terrorist organization The Weather
15:32
Underground, put it most
15:34
outrageously, and I quote, "...offering
15:37
those rich pigs with their own
15:39
forks and knives, and then
15:41
eating a meal in the same room, far
15:44
out, the weatherman
15:46
dig Charles Manson." It
15:51
did not take long until Manson
15:53
appeared on national television. Cameras
15:56
followed, as bailiffs led
15:58
him to a pretrial hearing. shackled,
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stooped, and glaring. The
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raw footage revealed few traces
16:05
of his fabled charisma. Manson
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brought a rollicking exhibition
16:10
of controlled insanity whenever he
16:13
appeared before the bench. He
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quarreled with a judge, arguing that
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he should be allowed to represent himself. The
16:22
Manson girls, for their part,
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mimicked their leaders' behavior, publicly
16:26
battling the judge and their court-appointed
16:29
defense attorneys at every opportunity, and
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refusing to obey even the
16:34
most fundamental rules of courtroom
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decorum. That
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Manson had been apprehended in Death
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Valley, as abyssal a
16:42
place as any in the United States,
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made him all the more transfixing
16:47
to the public and reporters alike.
16:50
The media played up the
16:53
Rasputin comparison, emphasizing
16:55
his desert wanderer sorcery.
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He was a bearded demonic mokdi,
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wrote one journalist, who led
17:03
a mystical semi-religious hippie drug
17:05
and murder cult. Another
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described him as a bush-haired,
17:10
wild-bearded little man with piercing
17:13
brown eyes, with
17:15
the family being a
17:17
hippie-type roving band. Manson's
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malevolence was seemingly
17:23
inexplicable. Even
17:25
in the doodles that he left behind
17:28
on a courtroom legal pad, psychiatrists
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saw, and I quote, a
17:33
psyche torn asunder by powerful
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thrusts of aggression, guilt, and
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hostility. I
17:49
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24:00
dreamed of rock and roll stardom, but
24:03
ultimately declined. Months
24:06
before the murders, Manson visited the
24:08
house, seeking Melcher, hoping to
24:10
change his mind, but was told
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he had moved. Manson
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resented the dismissive attitude he
24:17
received. Consequently, the
24:19
Cielo Drive House symbolized the
24:21
establishment that had rejected him.
24:25
When he ordered the killings, Susan
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Atkins testified he aimed to
24:30
instill fear in Terry Melcher,
24:33
sending a message to the stars and
24:35
executives who had spurned him. The
24:39
La Bianca house was chosen because
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Manson had once stayed next door.
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Though that house was now empty, it
24:47
did not matter. The
24:49
neighbors, Manson decided, would serve
24:51
as targets. They too,
24:53
regardless of who they were, represented
24:56
the establishments he sought to
24:58
destroy, with helter
25:00
skelter. The
25:04
trial was a spectacle, etching
25:07
itself into history as the longest
25:09
and most expensive in the US
25:11
at that time. But
25:15
the case wasn't as straightforward as one
25:17
might assume. Manson himself
25:19
hadn't physically committed the murders. He
25:22
was absent from the Tate scene entirely,
25:25
and though he had briefly entered
25:27
the La Bianca home, he had
25:29
left before the brutal killings. This
25:32
meant the prosecution's path
25:34
to convicting Manson of
25:37
first-degree murder lay in
25:39
charge of conspiracy. They
25:41
had to prove, beyond a reasonable
25:43
doubt, that Manson's sway
25:45
over his followers was so
25:48
absolute, so insidious, that
25:50
they would carry out his
25:52
orders, even murder, without hesitation.
25:56
It was a complex legal battle, made even
25:58
more of a crime. sidewalk
28:00
vigils. Barefoot and
28:03
belligerent, they sat in
28:05
wide circles, singing songs in praise
28:07
of their leader. The
28:10
women suckled newborns. The
28:12
men laughed and ran their fingers
28:14
through their long unwashed hair. All
28:18
had followed Manson's lead and cut
28:20
excess into their foreheads, distributing
28:23
typewritten statements, explaining that
28:25
the self-mutilation symbolized their
28:28
exing themselves out of
28:30
society. Bugliosi
28:34
called the defendants bloodthirsty
28:36
robots, a pompous phrase,
28:39
but an apt one. It
28:41
captured the unsettling duality of
28:43
the killers. At
28:45
once, animal, an artificial,
28:48
divorced from emotion, and
28:50
yet capable of executing the
28:53
most intimate visceral form of
28:55
murder imaginable. Tex
28:58
Watson would letter him the
29:00
detached, automated ecstasy
29:02
of stabbing, and
29:04
I quote, over and over
29:06
again and again my arm like
29:09
a machine, at one
29:11
with the blade. End
29:14
quote. Susan Atkins
29:16
told a sailmate that plunging
29:18
the knife into Tate's pregnant
29:20
belly was, and I quote,
29:23
like a sexual release, especially
29:25
when you see the blood spurting out.
29:28
It's better than a climax. End
29:31
quote. And
29:33
behind them was Manson, who
29:35
was obsessed with sex, even as
29:37
he described himself in one of
29:40
his songs as the
29:42
mechanical boy. After
29:46
seven grueling months, the first
29:48
phase of the
29:50
trial drew to a close,
29:53
and the jury, after ten days
29:56
of deliberation, arrived at
29:58
unanimous guilty verdict. Now,
30:01
in the second phase, the
30:03
prosecution had to present an
30:05
argument for putting the defendant
30:08
to death. Their
30:10
case and the defense's
30:12
counterarguments led to some
30:15
of the most unnerving testimony yet,
30:17
including a kind of symposium
30:20
on LSD. Not
30:22
as a recreational drug, but as
30:25
an agent of mind control. This
30:28
death penalty phase of the trial
30:31
entertained some of the same questions
30:33
that still causes true crime aficionados
30:35
like me to wander
30:38
so many decades later. Manson's
30:41
alleged brainwashing of his followers
30:43
raises questions about the nature
30:45
of influence and responsibility. The
30:49
extent to which he exerted
30:51
psychological control over them remains
30:54
a subject of debate. If
30:57
such control existed, understanding
30:59
the methods he employed is
31:01
crucial. Furthermore, if
31:04
an individual is genuinely
31:06
under another's psychological sway,
31:09
the issue of accountability for
31:11
their actions becomes
31:13
complex and ethically challenging.
31:18
The courtroom fell into a
31:20
stunned silence as the three
31:23
convicted women, Askins, Cranwinkle and
31:25
Van Houten, took the witness
31:27
stand for the first time. One
31:29
after another, they detailed their
31:31
involvement in the murders, shockingly
31:34
absolving Manson of any
31:36
responsibility and declaring their
31:38
complete lack of remorse. The
31:41
victims' families watched in disbelief
31:44
as the women recounted their loved
31:46
one's final moments with chilling detachment.
31:51
Killing, they explained, was an
31:53
act of love, freeing the
31:55
victim from their physical limitations.
31:58
Susan Haskins almost without blinking
32:00
recalled how Tex Watson had
32:02
instructed her to murder Sharon
32:05
Tate. I quote, He
32:07
looked at her, and he said, Kill her.
32:10
And I killed her. I just
32:12
stabbed her. And she fell. And
32:15
I stabbed her again. I
32:18
don't know how many times I stabbed her.
32:21
When asked if she felt any animosity
32:23
towards Tate or the others, she
32:26
shrugged. Again I quote, I
32:29
didn't know any of them. How could
32:31
I have felt any emotion without knowing them?
32:34
End quote. She knew
32:36
what she was doing was right, she
32:39
added, because it felt good. Patricia
32:43
Krenwinkle claimed to have felt
32:45
nothing while stabbing Abigail Folger
32:47
28 times. I
32:50
quote, What is there to
32:52
describe? It was just there. And
32:55
it's like it was right. It's
32:57
hard to explain. It was just
32:59
a thought. And a thought came
33:01
to be. End quote.
33:04
Leslie Van Houten began her statement
33:07
with a provocative challenge when
33:09
questioned about her role in stabbing
33:11
Rosemary LaBianca 41 times. I
33:14
quote, Sorry is only
33:17
a five-letter word. It
33:19
can't bring back anything. What
33:21
can I feel? It happened. She
33:24
is gone. End quote.
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the women's unrepentant stance, Bugliosi
34:53
faced a difficult task in
34:55
securing the death penalty. This
34:58
argument hinged on a seeming
35:00
contradiction. In the first
35:02
phase of the trial, he
35:04
had portrayed the women as
35:07
brainwashed zombies, completely under Manson's
35:09
control. Now he
35:11
had to prove the opposite, that they
35:14
were equally complicit. Though
35:16
there were automatons, Bugliosi
35:18
argued, slavishly obedient
35:20
to Manson's every command, the
35:23
women still possessed deep down
35:25
inside themselves a quote
35:28
unquote bloodlust that warranted
35:30
the ultimate punishment. And
35:35
with that, we come to
35:37
the end of part two in
35:39
this series covering Charles Manson. Next
35:42
episode continues this expose, so
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