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National Football Head Coach

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been or he's here to speak to me

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about the national team and

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football in general . Now , welcome

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to the podcast , mr

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Sutomo Ogura . Hello

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, nice to meet you , very nice to meet

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you too , coach Ogura . I want to

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say , before we talk about football and everything else

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, how has Singapore been

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for you over the past few

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months ? The culture

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, the people , the food , maybe

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you know how have you adapted

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to Singapore ?

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Yeah , so actually . So I

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like Singapore food very much

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like laksa or like

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bak kut teh . I like it very much

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. People are very kind , so like

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I'm very enjoyed working

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here a few months .

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Is this your first time in Singapore , or you

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come here before ? No , no .

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I come to a few times so I barely

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remember it . 2006

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, so under AFC

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championship under 17 . So

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championship . I'm national coach for assistant

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coach . Under 16 , we play against

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like Haris Haroon , it's like a

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good generation under 16 Singapore team .

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We play against Doro against one

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, right , right , I remember that

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game as well . Yeah , coach

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Ogura , before we talk about Singapore

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and everything right , have you been watching the

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Olympics with the ? Have you been following

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the Olympics with the Japanese team ?

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Yeah , I following but so I

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couldn't see watching the whole game

2:23

. I don't know how to watching but I'm

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watching so only for just digest

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, or I read newspaper or like internet

2:30

, so I cannot whole game

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difficult . I chase

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catch up but it's difficult to watching

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.

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Moose , you gotta help him out . Man Moose , help him out

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with a me watch please . Coach

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Ogura , before we move on , I want to say thank you for being

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here first of all , to be speaking with me , and

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I think it's a great pleasure to have you in . You

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came to Singapore with a

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lot of loads of experience

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with your club football

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in Japan , with the Japan

3:00

national team assistant coach as well . I

3:02

want to ask you this why

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Singapore ?

3:06

yeah , okay . So for me it's

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life is

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challenging for always . So

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, okay , before I

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was assistant coach for

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Verdi . Verdi , it's promotion

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, it's like first division . Then it's

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offer is coming from Singapore , then I want

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yes . Then it's , it's Ophok is coming from Singapore then I want to challenge . Then

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it's like share

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to the Singapore , football is lecture , or

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like how to think about this . I

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want to try to my challenge

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to come in the Singapore .

3:38

Right , right , so you are taking it as a challenge

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for yourself to come to Singapore and to prove

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yourself and , by the way , coach Ogura

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is a former assistant coach of Tokyo Verde and

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, besides being the assistant coach for the Japan

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national team as well , and he was also the sporting director

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of Yokohama Marinos from 2018 to

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2021

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. So you chose Singapore

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as a challenge

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, right ? And was

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there something in your mind already your expectations

4:05

of Singapore football before you come

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to Singapore ?

4:09

Oh , I don't know so much

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information about Singapore , but I

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knew an

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extra play-based coach , a Japanese

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coach in the national team , then

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a few players played

4:24

for SPL

4:26

club , then many Japanese players

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played for Singapore

4:30

Premier League . This is thing I

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know is like SPL , it's

4:34

Singapore information .

4:35

Right , right . So whatever information you came came

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from these Japanese players . I

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want to ask you about this right , do you know

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that you talk about challenging yourself ? Right , you want to challenge yourself

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. Right , do you know that you talk about challenging yourself ? Right , you want to challenge

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yourself in Singapore ? Do you know that there was going

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to be real pressure on

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yourself to achieve

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something in Singapore ? Did you

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know that there was already pressure from , I don't know

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, from the fans , from the

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journalists maybe , and you know , people

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in general about the pressure in Singapore ?

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Yeah , but so and the pressure

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is like . Japan also

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is the same .

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Yeah .

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So the football as well . It's all over

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the world same . It's like I don't know it's

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EPL , it's Bundesliga , it's get

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more pressure . It's more Christian , more

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Christian , all those things . It's more than

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here . I don't know . It's like in the football

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world it's every country .

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It's the same so you've been

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in Singapore for a couple of months already right , a few

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months already . Have you felt the pressure yet ?

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yeah , but so it's like

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pressure , it's like enjoy . So

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if , like , we are changed for

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some energy for like get the pressure , we are

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changed for some energy for like get pleasure , but this is keeping for energy

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, then so we are shared

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to like challenging field

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. It's like sometimes it's a get

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pleasure , but pleasure is enjoy

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.

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It's same like pleasure , right right and

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I understand what you're trying to say , because

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I think in any way , you wanted

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to challenge yourself as well in Singapore and

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I think in any way you wanted to challenge yourself as well in Singapore , and I think it comes

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. The pressure will come from yourself as well , not from people

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outside , and I understand that part . Now

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, what are the goals or

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objectives set out for

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you , coach Ogurath , by the FA

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Like ? What are the targets ?

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Yeah , so it's . My target

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is like Singapore

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, if possible , to like own

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structure . It's like Singapore way . It's

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like Singapore football . I want to

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help , not only me

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, so like assistant coach

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, medical staff , all those things . It's

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like how to properly

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professional way . It's also very important

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. It's like working for attitude

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. All those things then we are

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try to like be

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high ambition or

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like this right , it's also

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I want to provide or

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something . Then I contribute in the

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Singapore football .

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It's like so are

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there any goals that you set

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for yourself ? Coach Ogura , you know , I know

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the FAS has set a couple

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of goals for you , but is there any goals that you

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set for yourself that you want to

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achieve here in Singapore ?

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Yes . So for me it's

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like I don't know

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how many years I stay or not , but

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when I live in

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Singapore , if people

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say it's something to

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put on in the Singapore football , it's

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augurally . But it's something here . I

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don't want it like some people . It

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go away , everything go away . It's

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not good . Then why so I work

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together with local

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coach or local people , together

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with like communication . It's

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like this Because

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if I leave , then somebody come

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, but it's nothing to happen , but

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so something . So put

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on something good legacy

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here to Singapore

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.

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It's a good thing you said that , because I understand

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what you're trying to say . So people at home , you're watching , you're

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listening to this . What coach Ogura

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is saying is he can stay

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here for 2 , 3 , 4 , it doesn't matter . When

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he leaves , something must be left behind a

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legacy , for example and not

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throw everything away

8:21

, whatever that he's worked on , and I think

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that's what he's trying to say . You are also

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overseeing the under-22s , the national team . Are

8:28

you also overseeing the 21s ? Yes

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, so how has that been

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? How is the team so far ?

8:34

yeah , it's now . So we are

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looking for new

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talented player of course it's YL , it's

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like it's new talented player

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, but so I'm looking

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for still . It's another player . Also it's another

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SPL team . It's a very good team . Okay

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, today it's under 21 league , but I'm watching

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the under 21 league , so watching not

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only SPL , so I'm looking

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for some younger , talented players .

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I want to talk about the standards of

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the players in a while , but before that

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, I think you spoke about how

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long you are in Singapore , or whatever . I

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think you're on a two-year contract . I think right

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. Do you think two years is a short

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time ?

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No , a very short time to

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change something yeah , but so we

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, I try to our

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best . It's like how

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many years , how many months , is that

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a matter ? If I stay in here , I

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try to best . So I want to try to

9:32

something , to not wait . So

9:35

if I feel to

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change something , I do to my

9:39

best now , not

9:41

later . It's meaningful like two years , it's a half

9:43

year , it's three years , it doesn't matter . It's

9:46

like time is short , but time

9:48

is long . This is something feeling

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for myself .

9:51

You want to make use of whatever time you have here

9:53

in Singapore , right ? When

9:56

you first came to Singapore , right , and I know you've

9:58

been going to clubs , all

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the SPL clubs in Singapore you know , one by one

10:02

and speaking to coaches and looking at

10:04

the training , what were your first

10:07

impressions of the training

10:09

of the local coaches here in

10:11

Singapore ? What was your impression ?

10:13

So of course it's

10:17

Gavin Lee also , and Na'ali

10:19

also like Marco . It's

10:21

like Pero many

10:24

is a SPL coach . So

10:26

everyone is a good motivation

10:28

in how to training . It's , I think , very good . So

10:31

I think it's a very potential . It's like

10:33

coaching . It's like everyone

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wants to improve

10:37

. Every visit

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to the training session , then

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before game , I talk a little bit to the

10:44

coaches , then the coaches also very

10:47

frankly talking . For me it's very good

10:49

information from them .

10:52

You talk about the coaches . How about the players ? I

10:54

mean , you see them in training and

10:57

the coaches taking them during training sessions with

10:59

the clubs , right ? What were your impressions

11:01

of the players ?

11:02

Yeah , okay . So they are very potential

11:06

players , not only so an

11:08

expert player , it's an overseas player , of course

11:10

. So they have a good

11:12

attitude , good try to making

11:15

new challenges , all those

11:18

things . But sometimes they are mistakes

11:20

, but not mistakes . Mistakes it's every time

11:22

it happens . Football is a mistake , so

11:25

for me it's important if something happens

11:27

to a mistake , it's like recovery power

11:29

. We told it recovery power meaning it's immediately

11:32

quickly transition , all those things . This is a

11:34

habit . So this is in

11:37

the training , in the game , not only national

11:39

team , it's SPL also .

11:40

Same right right . You talk

11:42

about players who are playing overseas . You

11:45

know playing for the national team as well . I

11:49

think the SPL clubs and the standard

11:52

of the league has to be better and

11:55

then it can provide the national team

11:57

with good players . Do you think our

11:59

players need to go ?

12:00

overseas , yeah , but

12:02

it's important , it's okay

12:05

. Overseas is a good experience , it's

12:07

like as a player . So

12:09

important is how many games

12:11

they are joined , so how many

12:13

choose which kind of team

12:15

they are choice . It's very important

12:17

. It's younger players , especially Younger

12:19

players . It's a younger generation . It's very important . It's younger players , especially younger

12:21

players . It's a younger generation . It's they

12:23

play properly

12:25

time in every week . It's

12:28

very important . It's okay . They are play

12:30

. It's like training is very

12:32

properly , a very good attitude

12:34

, all those things . But if weekend they

12:37

cannot join the game , it's

12:39

very difficult for improvement .

12:41

Absolutely . I understand what you're trying

12:43

to say . It's no point training

12:46

every week in

12:48

an overseas league , but then you don't get a chance

12:51

to play as well . Playing time is very important

12:53

, and that's what Coach Ogura is saying

12:55

as well . Coach Ogura

12:57

, I want to ask you this very important question . I hope

12:59

you can be very honest with me .

13:01

Yeah , yeah , I hope so . It

13:04

depends on the question .

13:06

I hope so too . Right , okay , you

13:08

have been here for a couple of months

13:10

, right ? In your opinion

13:12

, what needs to change in

13:15

our football , our mentality

13:17

, our attitude , our the

13:20

physical part , tactical part

13:22

, what is it that we need to change ? Because at the moment

13:24

, we are struggling ? Right , when

13:26

we go and play against , I don't

13:28

know , thailand and all these big , big

13:31

teams , we struggle . Why

13:34

is it ? Why is that so ?

13:36

yeah , it's . I think it's like

13:38

we

13:41

need to approach not

13:43

only players , so we

13:45

also try to the coaches also

13:48

, try to players

13:50

. It's like more

13:53

like challenging is a spirit , then

13:55

our coaches also . It's

13:57

same like players , we are challenging sometimes so we are losing game , or

13:59

like sometimes it's same like player , right , we are challenging sometimes so we are losing game , or like

14:01

sometimes it's not good game , but

14:04

we try to own concept

14:06

Right . So we have also Japan

14:08

. No , it's like Singapore . It's like national

14:11

team has concept , each club has each

14:13

concept . Okay , so it's like not

14:15

only same , but it's different

14:17

concept . It must be . It like

14:19

continue , it's very

14:21

important sometimes , win or loss it's

14:23

, but continue .

14:24

It's like a player , it's getting confidence

14:26

right , then also player , it's

14:29

believing in ourself , right it's more right

14:31

it's very important in national team also are

14:35

you trying to say about the process , as

14:38

in , the players , trusting the process and obviously trusting the process

14:40

and obviously trusting the coach and doing following

14:43

the concept . Is that what you're trying to say ? Yeah

14:45

, right , and

14:47

, but in terms of

14:49

tactical part of things , do

14:52

you think our players are not

14:54

ready sometimes , especially when you go play

14:58

in the national team playing against very good , very

15:00

good teams , very strong , strong teams , right ? Do you think

15:02

we are a little bit weak ?

15:04

Yeah , but it's a feeling

15:07

, it's a play if strong opponent

15:09

if we are skilled . I think there's

15:11

no chance If no skill

15:13

. We challenging , we try . It's

15:15

like , for example , like second half of China

15:18

.

15:18

Yes .

15:18

For like first game they

15:21

are leading , but we are not scared , we

15:23

are go , try , try , try . Then it's okay

15:26

, maybe lucky goal . But they are

15:28

changing rhythm , intangible atmosphere

15:30

, then they are making

15:33

our pace . But if we lose

15:35

a goal , it's continue , it's

15:37

goal in goal , it's no good . This is for

15:39

like , if one goal

15:41

mistake , it's okay , no problem . So we are

15:43

like composure , then it's play normal

15:46

, then our pace

15:48

is coming right , right but this is so like

15:50

experience . It's like okay , it's not

15:52

only mentality , not only physically , it's

15:55

like how to like

15:57

leading the game right this is also very important

15:59

.

15:59

Yes , yes , you're right and I think mentally

16:01

as well . I think it's very important that the players are switched

16:04

on all the time . You

16:06

played in the the qualifiers , right

16:08

? You talk about China , the two games and

16:11

all in your . In your opinion

16:13

, how do you think were the results and

16:15

the performance ? I think it's very important that we talk about the

16:17

performances as well . What do you think about

16:19

the results and the performance in the

16:21

qualifiers so far ?

16:22

yeah , it's okay . So result

16:24

is so . One result is no win

16:26

. This is for responsibility . It's

16:29

to me not only player , it's no coaching

16:31

staff . Result always

16:33

is responsibility . It's like head coach . This

16:35

I understand . Then for me

16:38

it's like

16:40

watching the game for review . This

16:42

is for like next

16:44

call up in the player . It's September . We

16:47

are preparation for always after

16:49

the game . We review , Then preview

16:51

also do so , I

16:53

think , if okay result

16:56

is coming . But so we are

16:58

not losing in our concept . We

17:00

are always the same , but the difference

17:02

may be approached , but its concept is not changing

17:05

.

17:05

Right , right , Can I ask you what is the national

17:07

team's concept under you , under Ogura ?

17:09

Yeah , it's like so for me , for example . I

17:11

say it's like I say

17:13

to always the player it's

17:18

challenge is very important . Challenge is many things , not only the offensive . Offensive

17:21

is challenge . Maybe it's one against one

17:23

, it's like beating , or this is challenge . But

17:25

in the defending also , we are not

17:28

scared to back road , we go to front

17:30

. If possible to go to the front

17:32

, either . Taking ball , it's like straight

17:34

away , we are scoring goal . This is also challenge . We have many

17:37

challenge . It's like a straight way either . Uh , we are scoring goal , right

17:39

, this also challenge , right , we are many challenge

17:41

. It's like this there . But if something mistake

17:43

, immediately we are a transition also

17:46

thing right this also is like uh

17:48

first as possible right , right yeah this

17:50

also challenge right , it's many challenge but

17:52

so , uh , I cannot say it's one

17:54

word , it's , but it's a , but player is challenge

17:56

. Then maybe they are understanding . It's one word , but player is a challenge . Maybe they are understanding

17:58

If this happens , we are winning

18:01

.

18:02

There's too many challenges , right , yeah ? And

18:05

as a coach as well , I

18:07

think it's very difficult to

18:09

obviously stick to a concept and then

18:11

, with the players that you have

18:13

, it's a tough one . I want to ask

18:16

you I like what

18:18

I see , because I do commentary at

18:20

the stadiums and I always see you watching

18:23

games and taking notes of players and

18:25

I think that's great , and I think what

18:28

do you see in players when you pick them

18:30

for the national team ? Is

18:34

it the tactics ? Do you see them

18:36

, whether they are comfortable on the ball ? What is it that you

18:38

look for when you are picking players for the national

18:40

team ? Maybe now for the next tournament

18:42

, maybe yes .

18:45

For example , for me

18:47

it's like maintain , it's like what

18:50

kind of points ? So I was watching , for

18:53

example , opponent , so

18:55

we play . Is I watching focusing

18:57

the team ? They are

18:59

leading the game . So like 3-0

19:01

4-0 . It's easy game how they

19:04

are playing for me

19:06

is very interesting . They are ok 3-4-0

19:08

, no need to chasing ball or

19:10

no need or like hard work

19:12

. For me it's not accept , it's

19:15

like object if they are leading 3-0

19:17

or 4-0 opponent leading . It's mainly

19:19

for like maybe it's a game

19:22

, it's on maybe , but so

19:24

it's international player is

19:26

have to learn how to calling

19:29

, how to courage . If even for

19:31

3-0 or 4-0 opponent

19:33

leading , but still we are fighting

19:35

spirit is showing something courage

19:38

to our college

19:40

. It's very important . It's like this

19:42

is for identity , it's like a

19:44

show in the national team also . For

19:47

me this is point . It's like focusing

19:49

sometimes , for example , yeah , so

19:51

that's just one example .

19:53

Coach Ogura is saying that . I think he looks at the

19:55

attitude of players as well , and one example

19:58

was if the team is leading

20:00

3-0 , you can't relax . I think that's

20:02

what coach Ogura is trying to say you still got

20:04

to work hard , you still got to put on , you got to still press

20:07

high up the pitch , for example . So coach Ogura

20:09

is looking at the

20:12

attitude and the mentality part as well . I

20:15

just want to ask you I just give you you an example right

20:17

On players playing

20:19

for you in the national team , and one example

20:21

was Harris Harris

20:23

Stewart . Harris Stewart , not Harris

20:25

Harun Harris Stewart . He

20:27

was playing as a right back

20:29

right . What was your

20:32

thinking behind that decision

20:34

to play him as a right back ? Because I think when he was playing

20:36

for the Young Lions before last year , he

20:38

was more of a central midfielder . So

20:40

what was in your mind when you look

20:43

at players and playing them in a different position ?

20:45

Yeah , it's a very difficult question Because

20:49

at that moment it's some injured

20:51

player . We cannot nominate for

20:53

a light back . But this is not only

20:56

, not only this reason , because

20:58

he is like normally it's a very

21:00

strong pressure . So our

21:03

game is like our

21:05

right side is an opponent in left

21:07

side . Very , very , very strong player

21:09

is play . We have to play in the

21:11

last , so against play , korean

21:14

play against .

21:15

Thailand who is ?

21:16

one against one is the most stronger , one is like

21:18

he is one of the strong one

21:20

against one . But so one against one is not enough

21:23

. We are play one

21:25

against two . We are covering , challenging

21:27

covering .

21:28

So I want to try , but sometimes good , sometimes

21:30

not good success right , I think I

21:32

get what you said and I think Coach Ogura

21:34

was talking about . We talk about one

21:37

of the best players right On 1v1

21:39

on the left-hand side was Son from Korea and

21:42

he was playing against Harry Stewart . And Coach Ogura was saying

21:44

sometimes there's double teaming , it's two

21:46

against one , and sometimes it works , sometimes

21:48

it doesn't , and obviously when you play against Korea

21:51

, most of the time it doesn't work . Right For

21:54

?

21:54

Singapore . No , no , it's , singapore , it's

21:56

like all over the world .

21:57

It's the same .

21:58

Why he play for Tottenham is regular

22:00

, it's captain , it's like he's

22:03

world class . But so for our

22:05

player it's a good experience . It's

22:07

like not only one against

22:09

one , it's difficult , one against two , it's difficult

22:11

, one against three also possible . Yeah

22:14

, you're right , it's football .

22:16

Yeah , I understand what you're trying to say . Now the

22:21

big one coming up right in is

22:23

it November or December ? The AFF

22:27

November , right ? The AFF tournament at the end

22:29

of the year ? I

22:32

think that you might have problems in

22:34

getting players because

22:36

of the Champions League

22:38

, the Asian Champions League , right ? The players from Lion

22:42

City Sailors and BG

22:44

possibly , right ? How is

22:46

this going to be a challenge for you ? I think it's

22:49

going to be a huge challenge , isn't it ?

22:50

Yeah , but so actually

22:53

it's like not only Singapore

22:55

it's another . It's

22:57

like not only Singapore , it's another , it's Arsenal team . It's like the same situation . It's

23:00

like I think it's national team

23:02

always . National team is always we

23:05

nominate the player . It's best member . This

23:08

is my thinking . Sometimes

23:11

they are missing , they are not coming

23:13

, they are missing . But national team is , if

23:16

we are correct , decided , we correct

23:18

member . This is best member for me .

23:20

Yeah , yeah so you , you're

23:23

right , because the other countries are also facing

23:25

the same problem with the Asian Champions League

23:28

matches

23:30

and and you got to pick the

23:32

best players that is available to you and

23:34

you got to do the job . I know , I think there's no other

23:36

way . And what are your expectations ? Do

23:39

you have a goal for this tournament ?

23:41

Yeah , so every time so say

23:43

it's very

23:45

important . It's like our football , if

23:47

we can do , then it's . I

23:50

don't know if results coming or not

23:52

coming , but so a player is

23:54

like 100% , it's like believing

23:56

in ourselves , then play in our

23:58

football . It's like this , then we can try

24:00

. If it's a member , it's like I

24:03

don't know if it's coming or not , I'm not sure

24:05

, but we can try the preparation from

24:07

September that we can target

24:10

for like a

24:13

good game , for like an FF how

24:15

long are you going to assemble the team for ?

24:17

one month before , or how ? What

24:20

is the time you have with the players to train

24:23

them for the tournament ?

24:25

yeah , but so we have

24:27

from September , october

24:29

, november . It's like FIFA window alright

24:31

, yeah , we have time to the

24:33

FIFA window , but

24:35

so after FIFA window we have time to the FIFA window . So after FIFA window , I don't

24:37

know , it's like how many weeks

24:40

we have preparation .

24:42

Are you going overseas as well ? No , only

24:44

in Singapore .

24:45

Yeah , so planning is now so

24:48

overseas also possible to like home game

24:50

, away game . It's like experience

24:52

, because AFF is a little

24:54

bit different

24:56

regulation for like another competition

24:59

. You're right , yeah , right .

25:01

Coach Shukura , I want to ask you this question and

25:03

I don't know . You can be here for two

25:05

years , you can be here for three years , you can be here four

25:07

years , ten years , it's fine . What

25:10

is success for you at the end of

25:12

your stay here in Singapore ? What do you think is

25:14

success for you ?

25:15

Yeah , it's success . One

25:17

thing is I work together

25:20

. It's like local

25:22

coach , it's like foreigner

25:25

coach . Then I

25:27

work share to the younger

25:29

coach or like younger player . It's

25:32

like improvement it's

25:34

like deployment . Then I told before all the same when I leave then it's like improvement

25:36

, it's like deployment . Then I told before all

25:38

the same , when I leave . Then it's like

25:40

this coach or this player

25:43

growing up . Then a few years

25:45

later it's a target . It's

25:47

like they are good , successful

25:49

. Then it's like a big

25:51

supply in the ASEAN country

25:54

. Singapore are there . For me it's

25:56

a very good target .

25:59

Yeah , just before you go , you spoke about

26:01

the couple of coaches that you worked with before and

26:04

I think at the moment I think Gavin

26:07

is your assistant coach for

26:09

the past few games as well Are

26:11

you planning to maybe take in some other

26:13

coaches to assist , because I

26:16

saw some videos put up by the

26:18

FAS and I thought I saw something

26:20

very good because Gavin was actually

26:22

taking the training and given

26:24

the opportunity to train the players , and I think it's

26:27

a superb opportunity . Is there going to

26:29

be things like that for other coaches as well

26:31

?

26:31

Yeah , okay , so for me it's no problem . So

26:33

like , not only Gavin , so like LCS

26:37

or physical coach also . Last

26:40

, like window is coming , Then

26:42

another SPL coach is coming

26:44

to the help For me it's very lucky to

26:47

work with them . Then not only for

26:49

me , it's like a share for each

26:51

other . I learn from them a

26:54

lot because it's a Singapore mentality

26:56

. The

26:59

SPL is a a player , the player mentality , or like , uh

27:01

, how to environment ? It's uh very

27:04

good for learning from right

27:06

each other yeah maybe so a

27:08

little bit . it's , uh , they can learn from me , but

27:10

a lot of things , so I learn from them

27:12

. Nice , it's meaningful , not only for

27:15

Gabin , for Jebaz . It's

27:17

like another coach is like no

27:19

problem , it's like to work together . They're

27:21

also watching the training is also no problem

27:24

. Yeah , so like you or another

27:26

coach is no problem it's every time

27:28

it's open . Please let him come For

27:30

me it's

27:34

beautiful .

27:35

You know , I think it's this sharing

27:37

culture that I like about you as

27:39

well . You want to share with the coaches , and

27:41

it's no secret , you know you

27:44

can put up any drills , but at the end of the

27:46

day I think you know there's

27:48

no secret the players have got to perform on the pitch

27:50

as well . That's a good one . Coach

27:53

Ogura , before you go , any words

27:55

for the fans , the Singapore fans out

27:57

there , who are rooting for the Singapore

27:59

national team as well . Do you have any words

28:02

for them ?

28:03

yeah . So I'm very appreciate

28:06

to our Singapore Hoop

28:09

of One , because I'm very

28:11

, very , very appreciate . It's a it's play against

28:13

Korean , it's play against China . It's so many's play against

28:15

Korean , it's play against China it's so many fun

28:18

in the stadium incredible

28:20

. It's like atmosphere , all those things . And

28:22

player . It's like hard time

28:24

, so difficult time . Player

28:26

. It's like courage from our supporter

28:28

for me also in the same . I'm

28:30

very surprised . It's like so kind

28:32

of good atmosphere yeah , if possible

28:35

, it's no . So I'm we are no

28:37

give up . We are challenge , challenge , challenge it's

28:39

we are hard work . Then try

28:42

something , so like contribute in

28:44

our football fund in our country

28:46

, then please come to the

28:48

watching the game for AFF also

28:50

it please give me support to us continue

28:54

.

28:55

Koshogura , those were very , very good words

28:57

. Thank you so much for being with me , to

29:00

be here and to answer some questions

29:02

, and I have to say before you

29:04

go , I think your English is not bad . My friend

29:06

.

29:06

Yeah , it's very good . Now

29:08

it's more and more . It's like getting better

29:11

.

29:11

Yeah , nice .

29:12

Thank you very much for meeting . Sometimes

29:14

I met you in the stadium , but

29:16

today it's a talking first time .

29:18

Thank you , thanks so much , and I wish you

29:21

all the best , and the Singapore National Team as well

29:23

, for the coming AFF . And you

29:25

know , it doesn't matter , like I said , how long you are here . I

29:27

wish you all the best and hope we keep in

29:29

touch again .

29:30

Coach Og Thank you so

29:32

much .

29:32

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