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a warning. This

1:12

episode contains difficult subject matter,

1:14

including references to suicide and

1:17

death. Simon

1:22

Simbering was scrolling through his

1:25

social media messages when an

1:27

invitation to connect stopped

1:29

him in his tracks. Simbering

1:51

had been director general

1:53

of the Indonesian mining

1:56

department, a high-profile position.

1:58

During BRIEX, He was involved

2:01

in the negotiation of licenses

2:03

with foreign mining companies. He'd

2:05

been in several BRIACs meetings with De

2:08

Guzman. That was the one,

2:10

can we click on it? Can I

2:12

click? Yeah, okay. Zembirung showed me the

2:14

invite that had dropped into his inbox

2:16

from a geologist based in Malaysia called

2:20

Michael Antonio De Guzman.

2:23

Michael De Guzman, technical analyst

2:26

in Malaysia. Michael

2:30

De Guzman's face was distinctive.

2:33

He had a strong,

2:35

protruding lower jaw coupled

2:37

with a wide chin,

2:39

unmistakable features. Okay, what's

2:41

the original one? Simon

2:43

Zembirung pulls out an old photo

2:45

of De Guzman to compare to

2:48

the profile photo on LinkedIn. This

2:50

one, see? Do you think they look

2:52

similar? I think this is a plastic

2:55

surgery. He looks

2:58

young, De Guzman older, but you

3:00

cannot lie about this. You

3:02

cannot change your... Chin. Yeah,

3:05

chin. It says Mike is a geologist,

3:07

skilled in geological exploration. The same thing.

3:09

Fieldwork such as mapping, sampling, drilling and

3:12

core logging have

3:14

been involved in several exploration

3:16

projects. Did

3:18

you connect? Did you accept? No, not yet, but what

3:21

I'm saying is, looks like

3:23

spy. Who is this guy? After

3:26

speaking with Simon Zembirung, I

3:28

wasted no time messaging the profile he'd shown me. Could

3:34

this be the Michael De Guzman? I'm

3:41

Suzanne Wilton from the BBC World Service

3:43

and CBC. This is the $6 billion

3:45

gold scam, a

3:48

story about the lengths people will go

3:50

to in pursuit of getting rich. This

3:57

is the final episode. Episode

4:00

9 The Exit

4:02

Strategy On

4:06

De Guzman's last trip, his

4:09

wife Jeannie witnessed him carrying

4:11

a suitcase filled with cash.

4:16

From Singapore, Mike brought a lot of money,

4:18

you know. So when Mike

4:21

returned from Canada, there were $350,000 Canadian

4:23

dollars. Mike

4:27

also had a diamond ring, Rolex

4:29

wristwatch and US dollars. I

4:32

said, Pa, leave the money when you

4:34

fly. He replied, I can't

4:36

ma, because this is the office's money.

4:40

All the money was in a suitcase.

4:42

He said, I need to return it

4:44

to the company. Carrying

4:47

so many valuables with him would have

4:49

been enough to make anyone feel paranoid.

4:54

When Mike was about to leave for Canada,

4:56

he was saying, Ma, why

4:58

do I feel like I'm being followed

5:00

by someone? He

5:04

phoned Jeannie several times while

5:06

he was waiting for his

5:09

helicopter to reportedly refuel at

5:11

Samarinda Airport. And

5:13

his final phone call to Jeannie was

5:16

as the helicopter was about to

5:18

take flight. I

5:21

can hear the sound of the helicopter blades. I'm

5:24

boarding first, OK, Ma? Take

5:26

care of big boy. Take care of Paula.

5:30

Big boy and Paula were his kids

5:32

with Jeannie. In the

5:34

event of anything going wrong,

5:36

De Guzman had left clear

5:38

instructions for Jeannie. Mike

5:42

already told me not to be shocked if

5:44

anything happened to him. Don't show

5:46

up. I must be quiet,

5:48

whatever his condition. Mike

5:51

asked me not to go public. Mike

5:53

told me, Ma, if anything

5:56

happens to me, please don't say

5:58

anything. Bring our big

6:00

boy, that's what Mike called Mike

6:02

Jr., bring Paula and

6:04

hide. Whatever news about

6:06

me, whatever my situation is, don't

6:08

come to find me and don't

6:11

talk." Around

6:13

this time, De Guzman apparently rang

6:15

his mother and said, Pray for

6:18

me, mama, they want to kill

6:20

me. It

6:29

turns out De Guzman wasn't

6:31

being paranoid. He was

6:33

being watched, but not for

6:36

the reasons he had feared. I

6:38

was asked if I could put together a surveillance

6:41

program on De Guzman because

6:44

De Guzman and his three

6:46

Philippine colleagues, they flew

6:48

to Toronto for that prospector's convention.

6:53

This is Richard Jacobson,

6:55

a hugely experienced private

6:58

detective. He was put

7:00

in charge of watching De Guzman's

7:02

every move. Jacobson

7:04

was working for Freeport. They

7:07

wanted to make sure De Guzman

7:09

went straight back to Busang after

7:11

the convention in Toronto. As

7:15

an ex-CIA operative, one

7:18

thing Jacobson knew how to do

7:20

was set up a surveillance

7:22

operation. My

7:24

government work, I've seen coups

7:26

and evacuations, but I've

7:29

never seen something as intriguing as this. This

7:33

is the first time Richard has

7:36

shared the details of the operation.

7:39

The surveillance followed a really

7:41

crucial period of time. Those

7:43

last days before De Guzman's fall

7:46

from the helicopter. As

7:49

we know, while John Felderhoff

7:51

was receiving the Prospector of

7:53

the Year award at the

7:56

annual Prospectors and Developers Association

7:58

convention in Toronto, We

10:00

had done all the work all the way

10:02

from Toronto back to Jakarta. So

10:05

I took a weekend off and I

10:07

went to Lombok for the

10:10

weekend. And then

10:12

I get this call saying, return to

10:14

Jakarta immediately. And that's

10:16

when I found out for the first time that he

10:18

had disappeared from the

10:20

helicopter. What was your

10:22

reaction? I mean,

10:24

I was stunned. I was

10:27

shocked. I mean, at that point, when I got

10:29

on the airplane and go back to Jakarta, I didn't know what

10:31

they were, they didn't tell me why. When

10:34

did you find out? When

10:36

I landed, my boss

10:38

at Freeport explained to me what happened. Then

10:41

he asked me to put together a program to

10:44

interrogate the crew chief of the

10:46

helicopter and the pilot, which

10:49

was very interesting because the

10:51

pilot that day was not the normal

10:54

pilot. I was an Indonesian Air

10:56

Force pilot, which is very unusual. The

11:00

normal pilot claimed he was sick that day.

11:03

So why would you have an Indonesian Air

11:05

Force pilot? And

11:07

the flight normally goes straight from Balakpapan

11:09

to the mine site. It

11:12

stopped in Samarindo. And

11:14

I've read stories that it dropped

11:16

a colleague of his off in

11:18

Samarindo. So

11:24

remember that this was Rudy

11:26

Vega, the man who had

11:29

told investigators it was his opinion

11:31

that Tagusman had tried to take his

11:34

own life the night before the flight.

11:37

Just like the other Filipino

11:39

geologists, Vega had shares

11:41

in Brix, but not ones he

11:43

could cash in quickly. If

11:46

he'd been involved in the salting

11:49

of samples, he must have known

11:51

that if Tagusman got to his

11:53

meeting at Busang, the whole scam

11:55

would have been revealed as

11:58

one of the last people. to

12:00

see De Guzman before he seemingly

12:02

fell from the helicopter. Could

12:05

Vega have had some knowledge of

12:07

what was about to happen? Surveillance

12:14

may have been halted, but

12:17

Jacobson had another opportunity to

12:20

find out the truth. The

12:23

crew chief traveling with De Guzman

12:26

was brought in for questioning. And

12:30

we couldn't interrogate the pilot, because he was an

12:32

active duty military officer. But

12:35

the crew chief of

12:37

the other helicopter was Filipino. And

12:40

so we interrogated him. And

12:43

very strange, he said, we picked up some

12:45

cargo in San Miranda. Now,

12:48

he claimed it was

12:50

an ambulance looking like a vehicle. But he

12:52

said, looked like an ambulance. And

12:55

we thought that was very unusual, because

12:57

he's the crew chief. He's the one

12:59

that puts the cargo into the... It's

13:01

a small helicopter. It's just an all-o-wet

13:03

helicopter. And he's

13:05

the one that's supposed to load any cargo.

13:09

We didn't believe him at first. We

13:11

also confirmed it with the flight tower.

13:14

Okay, so this was information that was

13:16

validated as well. It was validated, yeah.

13:20

And again, I've read that he

13:22

had a companion with him that he dropped off

13:24

in San Miranda, but the

13:27

crew chief never told us that. He

13:29

said, we stopped in San Miranda and

13:31

we picked up some cargo. And

13:34

San Miranda was never on that

13:37

chopper's flight plan, normally.

13:40

It was Balakpapa and straight to Busan. But

13:44

that day they stopped in San Miranda and picked up

13:46

some cargo. What do you think

13:48

this cargo was? I

13:50

think it was a body. What? They

13:54

loaded it right from the ambulance-looking

13:57

vehicle into the helicopter.

14:00

But we never were able to confirm it was a body.

14:05

A body? Could D'Guzman

14:07

have taken a body on board

14:10

the helicopter? The

14:12

last piece of his plan to fake his own

14:14

death? There's a medical

14:16

university in San Ramon de la. And

14:21

we went and checked

14:23

the morgue. And we

14:25

asked them, did

14:27

anybody come in here and take a body or buy a body and

14:29

that? And their

14:32

answer was, oh, people come here all the time to get bodies. You

14:35

know, before the students and cadavers and

14:37

that. And so we

14:39

said, you don't remember anything about these

14:41

last three days, somebody coming in? And

14:44

a lot of people came in here again,

14:46

which was a bit suspicious. I mean, you don't

14:49

just walk out of a morgue

14:52

with a body and nobody knows where you're taking

14:54

it and who you are. If

15:00

there was a body on that

15:02

flight, when did it get dropped? And

15:05

more importantly, where did D'Guzman go?

15:09

What happened in those last moments

15:11

on that helicopter? This

15:15

is what Richard Jacobson wanted to find out from the

15:17

crew chief who was on board. He

15:21

remembered everything in excruciating detail. He

15:25

said that Michael D'Guzman was writing letters. Now

15:28

you've been on a helicopter before. It's hard to write a letter on it.

15:32

But he so much detail that he even

15:34

said, I saw him put

15:36

registered stamps on the letters. He

15:40

knew they were registered stamps. Very

15:42

detailed. And

15:45

then he said he wrote

15:47

about four or five letters. He

15:50

didn't tell us, you know, he couldn't see who

15:52

they were addressed to in that. And

15:55

he put them in his carry-on bag. And

15:58

then he took off his Rolex watch. took off his,

16:00

he wore a lot of gold. And

16:02

so then he took off his gold necklace. And he's telling

16:04

us everything in excruciating

16:07

detail. Yet he

16:10

never saw him get up and jump

16:12

out of the helicopter. We said,

16:14

excuse me, the helicopters,

16:16

you know, moving at very

16:18

high speed, you didn't see him get up

16:21

and open the door. Nope, never

16:23

saw it. His story really

16:25

fell apart at that point. I mean, it's

16:27

a small helicopter. You would think you would

16:29

notice somebody standing up and trying to open

16:31

the door, you know, against the

16:34

wind and jumping out. I'm

16:38

not sure he ever got on that helicopter.

16:40

And that's where we dropped the ball because

16:42

we only surveilled him when

16:44

he got on the plane in Jakarta to Balakpapan.

16:47

But the fact that that pilot was

16:49

not the real pilot, that

16:51

he was an Indonesian Air Force officer,

16:55

somebody had to direct him to be on

16:58

that private helicopter. Like

17:00

many others, Jacobson also questioned

17:02

how De Guzman's body was

17:04

found so quickly in the

17:06

thick jungle. The fact that

17:08

they even found a body

17:11

is a miracle. I

17:13

mean, it's rainforest. If

17:16

you fly over from Balakpapan to where Busang

17:18

was, it's triple canopy

17:20

jungle. And I

17:23

just was very suspicious when

17:26

they found the body. How

17:28

do you find a body in triple canopy jungle unless

17:31

you know where to look for it? Jennifer

17:35

Wells' book details that pilot

17:38

allegedly noted the

17:41

GPS coordinates at that moment that

17:43

the door opened. See,

17:46

don't you find that suspicious? The

17:51

crew chief doesn't remember him even jumping out

17:53

of the chopper. So I mean, all of

17:55

a sudden, the pilot noted the GPS. Who

17:58

knows? That's when he jumped out of the helicopter. They

18:01

just knew where to throw the body or

18:04

dump the body. Our

18:07

investigation keeps coming back to that

18:09

body. There

18:19

was something that De Guzman's wife, Jeannie,

18:21

said during our interview, which

18:24

hadn't got focused on before, and

18:26

it could be crucial. When

18:30

the decayed corpse was found,

18:32

it was unrecognizable, but the

18:34

teeth were intact. Mike

18:38

didn't have teeth. His teeth were

18:40

all false. This

18:43

is De Guzman's Indonesian wife,

18:45

Jeannie. The

18:48

only person who knew about his false teeth

18:50

was me and his family in the Philippines.

18:54

Maybe the other wives would not know about

18:56

it because Mike was embarrassed of it and

18:59

Mike only met them recently. When

19:01

he's with me, when he's about to

19:03

eat, he puts his teeth in a

19:05

tissue, both upper and

19:07

lower teeth. He didn't have

19:10

any teeth. Andrew

19:15

Neal from Freeport remembers

19:17

the troubles surrounding the disclosure

19:20

of De Guzman's dental records.

19:23

If those dental records showed De

19:25

Guzman had no teeth, then

19:27

that would have meant the body

19:29

found on the jungle floor could

19:32

not be him. They were

19:34

hounding the dentist in the Philippines, and he

19:36

says, I can't release any

19:38

results yet because I'm waiting on some paperwork

19:40

from the family. He

19:44

was waiting to get paid. Then

19:47

he would say, yeah, these are the dental records of De Guzman.

19:50

Money talks in this country. Just

19:54

about anything can be bought here. There

19:56

was a delay because they kept on saying, we're going to prove

19:58

it through dental records. The

20:02

dental records were never released

20:04

by the family, and the

20:06

dentist has since died. If

20:10

this was all a plan by De

20:12

Guzman to fake his own death, how

20:15

did he pull it all together? Richard

20:19

Jacobson. He would need

20:21

to have somebody in the Indonesian government. Again,

20:24

we don't know who that pilot was. We don't know who

20:26

paid that pilot. To be there that

20:28

day, we don't know why the other pilot, I mean

20:30

he claimed he wasn't feeling well that day, but you

20:34

cancel the flight then. You don't go

20:36

out and get an Indonesian Air Force pilot

20:38

to fly your helicopter. He

20:42

had to have paid some people,

20:45

I mean assuming he did have

20:47

an escape plan. I

20:50

think the most likely escape plan from my perspective would

20:52

have been by sea. No detection.

20:55

Have you ever told this story to anyone? Only

20:58

friends. I

21:01

mean I've never talked about Brix and that.

21:04

These details though, there's been many books

21:06

written about Brix and I've never seen

21:08

these details. Yeah, it's not my nature

21:11

to seek out people, especially

21:14

the media, to talk about this. I

21:16

know the resources are available to find out if

21:18

he's still alive or not, but I mean I'm

21:20

just surprised that nobody's really put an effort into

21:22

it. One

21:26

of the brothers said he wanted to just

21:28

let sleeping dogs lie. About

21:33

a year and a half after de Guzman's

21:35

reported death, the Royal

21:37

Canadian Mounted Police investigating Brix

21:39

flew Jacobson over from Jakarta

21:42

to Manila for an interview.

21:45

I found it very strange. They never asked me

21:47

about what you're asking me about. The

21:49

surveillance we did or the interrogation of

21:51

the… They didn't. It lasted two

21:53

hours and I expected

21:55

they would have asked a lot deeper questions, but

21:58

they were more interested in focusing on… the

22:00

money trail. And what

22:02

happened to his $15 million in shares.

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22:13

Guzman was never a fugitive.

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22:18

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very close to Jenny. How are you? How do you know

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her? that

30:00

De Guzman is still alive, don't you?

30:03

He's in the Cayman Islands. Mansa

30:09

refused to confirm how he knew

30:11

this. But Andrew Neill,

30:14

the metallurgist from Freeport, had

30:16

also heard Geiger's claim. All

30:19

I can do is repeat what he told me, was

30:22

that for a while he was in Copacabana,

30:24

and now he's in the Cayman Islands. Could

30:28

he really be in the Cayman

30:30

Islands? And remember

30:32

that LinkedIn profile Simon Sombirin showed

30:35

me at the start of the

30:37

episode, the one he thought

30:39

was Michael De Guzman? A

30:42

day after I sent a message,

30:44

a reply pinged into my inbox.

30:48

Could he really be about to

30:51

reveal himself after all

30:53

this time? But

30:58

this was not THE Michael

31:01

De Guzman, as

31:06

Sombirin had thought and I had

31:09

hoped, but the son he

31:11

had with Genie, who he affectionately

31:13

called Big Boy. As

31:17

Mike went missing, I got entrusted

31:19

with another Mike. He's really the

31:21

copy version of his dad. From

31:23

his genius thinking, his traits and

31:25

his works is also in geology.

31:28

He's absolutely the copy of his

31:30

dad. A solid copy,

31:33

a solid... Michael

31:37

Jr. was a young baby when

31:39

his dad died. All I

31:41

know about my dad is that he's a geologist.

31:43

That's the main thing. I've played

31:46

around with his reports, basically whatever he

31:48

left behind, at our house

31:50

back in Jakarta, and I

31:52

know he's responsible for some

31:55

of the major minds that he's currently

31:57

producing in Indonesia for the past year.

32:00

20 years. Other than that, I know

32:02

he's a really good family man. Then

32:04

based on the stories, and I guess judging

32:07

my own personal traits, I know he's someone

32:10

that doesn't lie. And then he

32:14

keeps to himself. It's not violent,

32:17

but he's harsh. Like

32:19

he's very direct, he's straightforward. Then

32:23

I guess pretty much that's all I know. Michael

32:30

De Guzman Jr. has no personal

32:32

memories of his dad, but has

32:34

heard stories about him from relatives.

32:37

He not only looks identical

32:39

to a young Michael De

32:41

Guzman, he's developing the same

32:44

career as his dad. Geology.

32:47

When Michael De Guzman Jr. went

32:49

to study geology at university, he

32:52

found that the Brie X story got

32:54

there before him. It just

32:56

surprises me that by the time that I stepped

32:58

into uni, because I'm taking

33:00

geology, turns out that

33:03

one of my friends were

33:05

about the same age. Her

33:08

parents know about my dad, and

33:11

is actually one of the investors who

33:13

invested in Brie X from Australia.

33:16

And then her family is one

33:18

of the family that is affected

33:20

by the whole economical

33:23

breakdown. They didn't really

33:25

bear hatred to my dad

33:28

or me specifically. They just know that

33:31

mining is a dangerous game. I've

33:43

been connected to the Brie X story

33:45

for more than two decades now. And

33:48

I've spent the last couple of

33:50

years traveling across the world to

33:52

Jakarta and Manila, speaking to everyone

33:54

involved in this story. Or at

33:56

least everyone who would agree to

33:58

talk to them. I found

34:01

out a lot, but there are

34:04

still so many questions that remain

34:06

unanswered. If

34:09

I can't speak to Michael De

34:11

Guzman, then perhaps the

34:13

other person who could have

34:15

unlocked this whole thing was

34:17

the man he spent his

34:19

final days with. On

34:22

De Guzman's last night, he

34:25

and Brix metallurgist Rudy Vega

34:27

discussed how they were going

34:29

to present their lab results

34:31

at the crunch meeting in

34:33

Buseng. I would

34:35

love to know what they came up with. Vega

34:39

was meant to be on that

34:41

helicopter ride to Buseng, but

34:43

instead he waved the flight off.

34:47

Why didn't he go with De Guzman

34:49

to the showdown with Freeport? Did

34:52

he have a role in any of this?

34:56

In 1997, when

34:58

the whole Brix thing went down,

35:01

De Guzman's son was too young

35:03

to remember any of his father's

35:05

colleagues. I asked him if, over

35:08

the years, he'd ever heard from any of

35:10

them. I

35:12

actually did back when I was in

35:14

grade four or third grade and

35:16

fourth grade. We were still in

35:18

Palanka. I received a phone call through my

35:20

cell phone. It was just

35:23

recently registered, but I remember

35:25

it was way too early in the morning

35:27

around like 4 or 3 a.m. I

35:30

received the call. It's just the sound of

35:32

an old man. And

35:35

he just said, like, I'm really sorry for what

35:37

I've done to your family. And

35:40

then when I asked who this

35:42

was, I

35:44

heard the name Rudy Vega. But

35:49

what had Rudy Vega done to

35:51

the De Guzman family? What

35:54

was he sorry for? Was

35:56

the person on the other end of the

35:58

line even Rudy Vega? Vega? Or

36:01

was it De Guzman? A

36:05

few years after the call, Vega

36:08

died and with it an opportunity

36:10

to discover the truth. Despite

36:13

the fallout from the $6 billion

36:16

gold scam, Michael

36:18

De Guzman Jr. has buckled

36:20

down and focused his ambition

36:23

into becoming a world-class geologist.

36:27

And as he puts it... Maybe

36:29

I could start my own minds, get

36:31

some investors and again be the better

36:33

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