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how to tell better stories. If you
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do not do this, you will fall
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behind because you're going to fall into
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the information trap. There's so much information
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out there already. You're going to get
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lost in it because you're just regurgitating
2:45
all the same things. There's no new
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information. There really isn't. It's how you wrap that
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information, how you put a bow on it, how
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you present it. This is why in Japan,
2:53
when you go to Japan, everything they
2:55
do is neatly packaged because they want
2:57
to increase the experience that you have
2:59
and customer service and all that kind
3:01
of stuff. I mean, they represent that
3:03
so, so well. I mean, they go
3:05
a little overboard with work ethic and
3:07
those kinds of things, especially, you know,
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I recently read an article that people
3:11
who work in the anime industry there
3:13
are working like 70, 80 hours a
3:15
week, which is not okay, but as far as
3:17
the culture of giving. That's what we
3:20
do as entrepreneurs, as creators. We
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are in the business of giving.
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And if you're just giving the
3:26
same old information, it's not going
3:28
to feel like a gift. It
3:30
was Ryan Trahan, a young and
3:32
really popular YouTubeer who once said
3:34
in an interview that he treats
3:37
his videos like a gift to his audience.
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And I love that because when you
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think about it that way, you wouldn't
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just like... Scrap something together if you
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truly wanted to give somebody a gift you
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think about it you present it you wrap
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it in a nice bow and You offer
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it. It's Japanese culture. It's good
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creator culture. My dogs agree. They just
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barked because my wife walked in the door
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and I implore I beg you, you learn how
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to tell story. And that's exactly
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what I'm going to teach you how
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to do today. Now, learning story just
4:07
isn't going to happen overnight. However, there
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are some frameworks, there are some ideas,
4:12
there are some principles that I want
4:14
you to think about, and again, speaking
4:16
about it in a sense of a
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creator online, a brand, a business, somebody
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wanting to connect with somebody before, some
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movements, some actions, some transaction, whatever it
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might be. There's many different kinds of
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stories. Fiction and nonfiction books that
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each have story in it. There
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are fiction and nonfiction movies, television
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shows, screen plays, poems, etc. We're
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talking about the online creator space,
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but a lot of these principles
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are the same throughout and then I'll have
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some tips for you as well. This is
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a window of some of the stuff that
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I talked about in a recent workshop inside
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of the SPI community because when there are
4:52
hot topics we want to bring people on
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and many times it's myself to come on
4:56
and teach certain things that are happening. I
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did a workshop about AI when that was
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coming on and so this is one of
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the benefits of being in the SPI community
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is getting access immediately to things
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like that when we see things like that
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when we see patterns like that. Knowing how
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to tell a good story is the most
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powerful skill that anyone can learn. As AI is
5:15
here, as more and more information gets
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uploaded into the internet and force-fed to
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everybody, it's those stories that you tell
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that are really going to connect with
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people. So that's number one. It's a
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way to connect with people with more
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than just information. Number two,
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it transforms information into
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relatable experiences. And if
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you're selling anything, maybe even selling a
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call to action like a click. to join your
5:39
email list or to even just think
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about an idea when you shape that
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information into a story that's relatable when
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a person has an experience through your
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experience that you're telling or somebody
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else's whose story you're telling. It
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becomes something that grabs attention and
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it becomes something that helps a
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person go deeper with you, that relatable
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experience. If you've been on Instagram or
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Tik, and shorts and you've seen a
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lot of short form video, you'll notice
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that a lot of the videos that
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have popped off and have done really
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really well, or even ones that you
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stick around and watch, are ones that
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begin with a story. I was at
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the grocery store and this woman came
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up to me. Now you need to
6:19
know what happens, right? Versus, here are
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the top five reasons why you need
6:23
to start a podcast, which again,
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I've been sharing that kind of
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information for years. And see, I've
6:30
captured your attention again. And you'll have
6:32
to go back into the archives to
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find that story. I might tell it
6:36
on stage again at some point as
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far as how that came to be.
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Now stories can take concepts
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that are complex and make
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them accessible and memorable for
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people. And that last part's
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really important. Stories are things that
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we remember, and it's also things that
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we then share. Both positive stories
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and dramatic and negative stories.
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Those ones with consequence, those
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ones with drama, those are
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the things that seem to capture a lot
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of people's attention. Hence, a lot of
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the drama that we love to watch as
7:08
just human beings and just following
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other people's lives and the drama
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that they go through. It's unfortunately
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something that we as humans are
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interested in more than really anything.
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I'm not saying. Just bring drama
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to bring drama. There's enough drama
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in the world already, but when
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you can include dramatic ups and
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downs in the stories that you're
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telling, you're more dramatically able to
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make connections, create something memorable,
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create something shareable. Stories inspire
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action. These are the things that
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get people to click, to buy,
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to change, to transform. Stories
7:45
can communicate your values. without explicitly stating
7:47
them, right? When you tell a story
7:49
about an interaction that you've had, you
7:51
are through that story sharing the kind
7:53
of person that you are one way
7:55
or another versus, hey guys, these are
7:57
the three things you'll love about me.
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I am honest, I am trustworthy,
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and I will, whatever. Like that
8:03
just comes across as kind of
8:06
arrogant versus here's the story and
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here's how I handled it. And
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then finally, stories help you stand
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out. Just, that's it. They help you stand
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out. So I'm gonna give you a framework
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and this is very much. mirroring a
8:19
lot of frameworks that are out there.
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It's my own take on it. The
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hero's journey, as maybe you've heard it
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before, a transformation of somebody in some
8:27
way, shape, or form. That's what we're
8:29
gonna go over here. But I have
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a specific way that I like to
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approach this when I'm creating content, when
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I'm telling story, and especially when I
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am. for example, on a podcast and
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trying to share information, or when I'm
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on an interview and I want to,
8:43
you know, present myself in a way
8:45
that's memorable. I don't just share facts.
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I wrap those facts inside of stories that
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are relatable. So it all starts with the
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normal life and this is going to be
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a circle that takes back to the beginning,
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but in a different sort of way. And
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it starts with the normal life. So for
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me, many of you know my story of
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how I became an entrepreneur of
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how I became. Right that was the
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normal life for me. I was
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on my way to becoming an
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architect. I had just gotten a
9:13
promotion I had just proposed and
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things were great until they weren't
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and this is where a trigger Happens
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right a lot of times in these
9:22
heroes journeys you see sort of just
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like scene one scene two scene three
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or act two act four kind of
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thing I have specific things that happen
9:30
or actions moments that then take
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a person from one stage or one
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act to the next and this first
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one from the normal life there is
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a trigger some trigger event that
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starts this whole thing off and for
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me my trigger event from the
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normal life was I got laid off
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that completely swept the rug under
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me and allowed me to not even know
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where I was going next because I had
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this plan and all of a sudden it
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was gone from there we have the normal
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life then a trigger event or
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action or moment that then
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takes us to, well, what do we
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want now? What do I desire?
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What is the challenge that you're
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now facing? And for me, I was
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just lost. I needed to make
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money and I had no plan
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B. This is what I wanted.
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I needed to make money, but
10:21
and I wanted to have this
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family and I lost my job.
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Then... attention point needs to come into play. So this event
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happened and you're now in this situation, we need to amplify what is happening
10:29
here in some way, shape, or form. So again, in my story, and by
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the way, I've told the story many times, I used to tell my story
10:33
in a very, I used to tell my story in a very light way.
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Yeah, I used to be an architect and then I became an entrepreneur
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and I started my business online. That's exactly how it happened. And
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unfortunately, when I told it was told it that I told it
10:42
that way, and you're now, and you're now, and you're now, and
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you're now, and you're now, and you're now, and you're now, and
10:46
you're now, and you're now, and you're now, and you're now, and
10:48
you're now, and you're now, and you're now, and you're now, and
10:50
you're now, and you're now, and you're now, and you're now, and
10:52
you're now, with how this all happened rather
10:54
I just wanted to help people and
10:56
answer more questions but the truth is
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when I discovered that when you go
11:01
deeper in these stories create connection that
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the deeper I went the more intriguing
11:05
I became the more authoritative I became
11:08
the more trustworthy I became and the
11:10
more relatable I became and this was
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on my own blog and then later
11:14
my podcast and of course on other
11:16
podcast too so although I've been interviewed
11:19
hundreds of times before a lot of
11:21
interviewers Say Pat I know you're probably
11:23
tired of telling your story. I say
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no, I am not at all tired of telling
11:27
my story for two reasons. Number one, I
11:30
know it's going to be the thing that
11:32
connects me to your audience who has probably
11:34
never heard my story before. So that's really
11:36
important for me. I don't brush over that.
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And number two, every time I tell my
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story, I can get better. I can refine
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it. I can go deeper. I can understand
11:45
more about it and what makes people want
11:47
to then work with me or invest in
11:50
my programs and my programs and such.
11:52
So going back to where we
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were, the normal life, I was an
11:56
architect, trigger moment,
11:58
I had gotten laid off. where I
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am now as a result of that
12:02
trigger I was lost I didn't have
12:05
a job I didn't have any money
12:07
coming in and I really just
12:09
wanted to survive and then the
12:11
amplification of that the
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tension point this amplifies and
12:16
shows the reader the listener
12:18
the viewer just how bad
12:20
things are and for me I found
12:22
that this thing that I could
12:24
then share that would highlight this
12:26
was I moved back in with
12:28
my parents life was moving backwards.
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That's the tension point, the
12:33
amplification of the challenge. Now
12:35
I didn't, again, I didn't know
12:37
this framework. I had sort of
12:39
discovered this and learned it and
12:42
have adopted a lot of other
12:44
people's styles into my own, but
12:46
when I randomly was interviewed on
12:49
a podcast several years ago, I
12:51
remember mentioning that I had
12:53
moved back in with my parents
12:55
and I remember a visceral sort
12:57
of like... from the interviewer like
12:59
I heard an audible gasp and
13:01
that was my signal that oh my
13:03
gosh this actually like made an impact
13:06
when I said this again I was just
13:08
learning as I was going but when I
13:10
said you know I moved back in my parents
13:12
really oh my gosh what was that like
13:14
I leaned into that from that
13:16
point forward and it makes sense right
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that is like the opposite direction of
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where I wanted to go in normal
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life normal life this thriving
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career climbing the corporate ladder
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And after getting laid off, moving
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back in with my parents, that
13:31
was like not just climbing down
13:33
the ladder, that was like digging a
13:35
hole, right? So again, telling that story
13:37
in a way that leans into those
13:40
things. Next is then a discovery.
13:42
This is a moment of hope, a
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glimpse of some other world that I
13:46
didn't know about before and for me.
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The discovery was the world
13:50
of online business. And many of you
13:52
again have heard the story before. I
13:54
found a podcast called Internet Business Mastery
13:56
hosted by Sterling and Jay. I listened
13:58
to one particular episode. about a person
14:01
named Cornelius who was helping
14:03
people pass the PM exam,
14:05
the project management exam. And
14:07
that was my discovery in
14:10
that aha moment as some people might
14:12
call it, right? Now does that mean
14:14
I'm a success right after that? No,
14:16
you have to go from discovery
14:19
to self doubt in some way. So
14:21
again, when you're telling the story, you
14:23
see this glimpse of hope, but then
14:25
all of a sudden it gets pulled
14:27
away or like it's. thrown in the water
14:30
and you lose it again, right? You're so close,
14:32
but then you get pulled back to where you
14:34
are now feeling a lot of tension, right? So
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for me, after discovering the world of online
14:38
business and getting excited about it, and
14:40
again, learning how to tell the story
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about what that excitement is like, I
14:44
dreamt about making sales online, I had
14:46
that bug in my stomach that we
14:48
all feel when you're excited about something,
14:50
it's all I could think about, I
14:52
was reading, I was reading, I was
14:55
reading, to multiple podcast, and I built
14:57
my own website. But then the impostor
14:59
syndrome kept holding of me back. I
15:01
kept doubting whether or not I could
15:04
actually serve this audience of architects that
15:06
I wanted to serve with this exam website.
15:08
I didn't believe I was qualified.
15:10
In fact, I was finding proof that
15:12
I was not qualified to teach. I barely
15:15
passed. And I kept saying that to myself,
15:17
like, I'm a fraud. I can't teach this
15:19
stuff. I never went to business school.
15:21
I was looking for every excuse in
15:23
the book again. These things that
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I'm saying now, I've learned
15:28
over time, are things that
15:30
can connect with an audience
15:33
because this self-doubt is relatable,
15:35
right? This is the most
15:37
important part, because the self-doubt,
15:40
the obstacles that are in
15:42
the way, or were in the
15:44
way for you, or whoever's
15:47
story that you're telling through.
15:49
So my self-doubt was
15:51
kicking in, for sure. And then
15:53
comes the transformation.
15:55
You get through something, you slay
15:58
a dragon metaphorically. And
16:00
something happens and Eureka, a
16:02
moment. And that moment for me was
16:04
when I launched my e-book and I
16:06
finally started to generate revenue. And
16:09
I've leaned into that moment,
16:11
right? You lean into it in
16:13
that transformational moment. What happened
16:16
exactly? Well, and again, in the
16:18
beginning, I was just like, yeah, I
16:20
launched the book and I started to
16:22
make money. Cool. But how impactful is to
16:24
tell a story in that way and
16:26
just get right to the end versus
16:29
describing. in detail what happened, how
16:31
you were feeling at the
16:33
time, and using relatable visuals,
16:35
even if you're just speaking
16:37
about this story, using relatable
16:39
visuals, right? Like when I
16:41
say that I got an
16:43
email, I opened my email
16:45
at 8 a.m. in the
16:47
morning, and I saw the email
16:49
subject line. You have just
16:51
got paid 18 dollars and 18
16:53
cents from PayPal. I opened the
16:55
email and I see the dollar
16:57
figure there. I couldn't believe it.
17:00
I log in. I forget my
17:02
password and as soon as I log
17:04
in, I see there is money there that
17:06
was not there the night before. I
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did it. I couldn't believe it.
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And then more sales started
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pouring in and more and more
17:15
emails. You see what I'm talking about
17:18
here? There's pacing involved,
17:20
there's intonation, there's dynamics,
17:22
there's painting pictures and
17:24
visuals, and this is
17:26
all stuff that can only
17:28
come with practice. Practice, practice,
17:31
practice. And remember, I've gone
17:33
on hundreds of podcasts and
17:36
have told the story multiple
17:38
times. So I in a way know exactly
17:40
what words to say. Which parts
17:43
of this event can I pull
17:45
out and visualize for people? And...
17:47
Create that emotional connection because that's
17:49
what you want you want an
17:52
emotional response in some way shape or
17:54
form During the tension and the self-doubt
17:56
parts You want that tension to go. Oh
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gosh. I feel that with because I felt
18:00
that too. And then when you get
18:03
into the transformation, you share what
18:05
life is now like after
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slaying those metaphorical dragons or
18:09
getting over those obstacles and
18:12
self-doubt and giving people who
18:14
are now listening to this
18:16
story a beam of hope, something that
18:18
they can look forward to now.
18:20
And when you share this transformation in
18:22
this story, in this way, people want
18:24
to now go on the same journey
18:27
as you. And they'll use the same
18:29
tools. They'll want to learn from you.
18:31
They'll want to go to the same guide or
18:33
go through the same path. Now we're not quite
18:35
done yet. Because after the transformation,
18:37
you now have what I like to call
18:40
the ultimate test. Because it's one thing to
18:42
just have either a flash in the pan
18:44
or have a moment where, okay, cool,
18:46
I made a sale. But when you have a
18:48
test. that then defines that you are now
18:50
in a new place, a new world, that
18:52
there is a new normal coming, then that
18:55
kind of seals the deal. This is
18:57
like the climax of the story. The
18:59
climax of the story was not, in
19:02
fact, my first sale. It was the
19:04
fact that my boss called me back, and
19:06
this is a true story. My boss
19:08
called me back, I started making sales,
19:10
my boss who let me go, called
19:12
me back, and he said, Pat, I want
19:14
to offer you a job back. The
19:16
economy is coming back. I have an
19:19
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19:21
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19:23
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19:25
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19:27
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19:29
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19:31
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19:33
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19:35
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19:38
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19:46
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19:52
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19:55
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19:57
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19:59
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20:01
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20:03
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20:05
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20:07
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20:09
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20:11
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20:14
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20:16
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20:18
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20:20
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20:28
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20:31
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20:33
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20:35
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20:37
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slash. smart passive. When I did this
22:02
workshop in the SPI community, somebody
22:04
had made a really smart comment
22:06
and they said, this mimics a
22:08
sales page, this mimics the journey
22:10
that you take an audience on.
22:12
When you meet them, you share
22:14
with them the things that you've
22:16
gone through that relate to them,
22:18
and you share the transformations that
22:20
they can go through, thanks to
22:22
your help, thanks to your product,
22:24
or whatever it might be. So
22:26
this sequence, yes, is the hero's
22:28
journey, but in a content creator
22:30
sort of style, right, pulling out
22:32
that trigger, what was that moment
22:34
like, pulling out the tension for
22:37
me again, remember, the moving back
22:39
in with my parents, that just
22:41
like plus one, how bad things
22:43
were going for me, the self-doubt,
22:45
the obstacles, you call those things
22:47
out, right? In your sales pages,
22:49
you should know what those obstacles
22:51
are, and then you rebuttal them,
22:53
you refute them, you have counters
22:55
to each of them. and
22:57
the transformation, the ultimate test, and boom.
22:59
We've got a new life now. And
23:02
we've taken this framework and put it
23:04
into the Pokemon space. If you've seen
23:06
any of my videos, the long form
23:09
videos on Deep Pocket Monster, you will
23:11
see, and if you follow along now,
23:13
this is what I love about this.
23:15
When you learn these frameworks, it's like,
23:18
you see a new shade of light.
23:20
And the reason why I say it
23:22
like that is I remember when I
23:24
went to architecture school, I remember sitting
23:27
in drawing class and people were drawing
23:29
things and the teacher told us like,
23:31
it's not what you draw, it's how
23:34
you place what you draw that makes
23:36
it come to life. And so he
23:38
would draw the shadows of the figures
23:40
that we drew. And in real time
23:43
we would see these things just like
23:45
pop out of the page because of
23:47
the shadows underneath. and the way the
23:49
light bounced off of these things. So
23:52
forever from that point forward, when I
23:54
look at something, like I'm looking around
23:56
my room right now, I'm seeing my
23:59
door, but not just the door, the
24:01
shaft. that the door frame makes that
24:03
outline it on one side because the
24:05
lights coming from the other side and
24:08
how the light gradients across it. And
24:10
so I'd be able to now recreate
24:12
this in a more drawing kind of
24:14
way. It's the same thing when you
24:17
learn how to tell story. When you
24:19
watch movies now, when you read books,
24:21
when you see TED Talks, when you
24:24
watch a Pokemon YouTube video from Deep
24:26
Pocket Monster, you will see these stories
24:28
come into play. How? Well. I'll give
24:30
you an example. We had a video
24:33
series called Collect Every Gangar Ever. Gangar
24:35
is a poison slash ghost type Pokemon
24:37
and it's really popular so we decided
24:40
okay we're gonna find all of them
24:42
and there are like 70 to 80
24:44
of them in English. The Japanese collection
24:46
challenges this year actually 2025. The 2024
24:49
one was just English only. And our
24:51
first video came out and it was
24:53
34 minutes long. And after four months,
24:55
it had 4.4 million views. Two months
24:58
later, we came out with the second
25:00
part where we finished it off, and
25:02
that was a one hour and 13-minute
25:05
video, which now has 4.5 million views.
25:07
They've accounted for over 70,000 subscribers total,
25:09
just from one arc, one series, one
25:11
story that we're telling. Now on the
25:14
surface, it might seem like, okay, well,
25:16
it's just a dude collecting Pokemon cards,
25:18
but no, it goes way deeper than
25:20
that. And I'll tell you why. Because
25:23
let's go through the framework again in
25:25
the world of Pokemon and collecting every
25:27
Gangar ever. And again, we put this
25:30
in this framework to make it sticky,
25:32
to make it relatable, and to bring
25:34
something more than just like, oh, a
25:36
dude's collecting Pokemon cards. How do we
25:39
make this relatable to anybody whether they
25:41
collect Pokemon or not? So here is
25:43
the normal life in this video series,
25:45
this two video series of collecting every
25:48
Gangar ever. The normal life was I
25:50
have a perfectly organized complete Pokemon collection.
25:52
So in the videos if you you'll
25:55
see that there are close-ups of my
25:57
shelves that have my binders perfectly aligned.
25:59
I get all the same binders for
26:01
all my complete collections. I have perfectly
26:04
dusted frames of cards. I have my
26:06
neatly organized sealed collection. Everything is perfect.
26:08
Everything is filled. And that's how we
26:11
set it up in the beginning. But
26:13
now there's a trigger. I purchase a
26:15
collection. And there is a gangar collection
26:17
that's incomplete. Now I have this collection
26:20
that I purchased with this awesome gangar
26:22
collection that is 20% finished. And it's
26:24
just like bothering me. It's like a
26:26
thorn in my side. To enhance that
26:29
in the visuals, it was placed in
26:31
the binder that it was purchased in,
26:33
which is kind of old, dilapidated, ugly,
26:36
peeling. If you open this binder, it's
26:38
like the pages are kind of like
26:40
orangey because it's like 20 years old.
26:42
and there are the gangards there, but
26:45
there's so many cards missing from this
26:47
collection that it just irks me. I
26:49
speak to a little bit of perfectionism
26:51
in here, something that we can all
26:54
relate to, things being complete, things being
26:56
perfect, right? Then the challenge, the watch,
26:58
of course, is this whole in my
27:01
collection that I now need to fill.
27:03
I must catch them all, and that's
27:05
the Pokemon phrase, gotta catch them all,
27:07
right? And now there's tension, because as
27:10
I go to try to try to
27:12
try to complete this collection, keeps growing
27:14
because I keep discovering that there's more
27:16
and this little board that I created
27:19
to organize them all neatly in a
27:21
perfect grid. I have to add more
27:23
slots which then remove the symmetry and
27:26
just make it all messy and I
27:28
have to battle internally with that. Yes,
27:30
these things are in fact a part
27:32
of the story, but it's done through
27:35
the actions that I take, the voiceovers
27:37
that I include. I'm not like telling
27:39
people during the story. Okay, now I'm
27:41
in the tension part. No, we show
27:44
it. We demonstrate it. and then I
27:46
have a discovery. The discovery being that
27:48
in order to progress, I have to
27:51
get a little messy. There is... literally
27:53
no way for me to finish a
27:55
perfect collection unless I get a little
27:57
messy. And then there's self-doubt. There's a
28:00
struggle with perfectionism. Me continuing to go
28:02
back to try to rearrange my binder
28:04
and to rearrange this board that I'm
28:07
using to organize and it's just taking
28:09
so much time and I'm saying so
28:11
much time and I'm saying no to
28:13
certain people just because their cards aren't
28:16
perfect and it's really me. There's a
28:18
point in a moment. where I start
28:20
to let go of the idea of
28:22
things having to be perfect. And I
28:25
start to embrace the fact that, yeah,
28:27
trying to be perfect was in fact
28:29
holding me back from collecting all these
28:32
amazing cards to help me get forward
28:34
in my collection goal. And then the
28:36
ultimate test was at the end when
28:38
I had all the cards. I had
28:41
this perfect binder sort of sitting since
28:43
the beginning that was ready to fit
28:45
into a slot in my binder shelf.
28:47
It was a purple binder. Pokemon is
28:50
purple. I had this binder ready for
28:52
it and at the very end when
28:54
I collected all of them, spoil alert,
28:57
I decided that you know what, I'm
28:59
not gonna put them perfectly into my
29:01
binder. I have this messy little board
29:03
that I collected them on with stickers
29:06
and other things that people included over
29:08
time in messy handwriting and stuff and
29:10
you know what, I'm gonna put that
29:12
in a frame instead. And I framed
29:15
it. I have a frame, it's like
29:17
a 48 by 30 board that is
29:19
now framed, messy, to in fact. the
29:22
imperfection and to celebrate the imbalance and
29:24
everything to celebrate how messy the journey
29:26
was but also remember all those moments
29:28
that happened to get to the point
29:31
of completion and how joyful that was
29:33
despite it not going the way that
29:35
I thought it was going to right
29:38
I've learned that it doesn't have to
29:40
be in perfect order for me to
29:42
be fulfilled and that is a new
29:44
life for me and so as you
29:47
can see we're getting deep in this
29:49
story but then you get comments like
29:51
this I'm gonna read a few of
29:53
them for you Why am I watching
29:56
this? I don't even play Pokemon or
29:58
collect like anything, L-O-L. This is a
30:00
comment on that series. Another comment, I
30:03
don't... I don't even collect Pokemon cards,
30:05
but this is so entertaining. I watched
30:07
the full one hour of it. And
30:09
here's one more I'll read for you.
30:12
This story about Hunting for Gangars had
30:14
me hooked from the very beginning, and
30:16
I don't even know much about Pokemon
30:18
cards. I really enjoyed how each trade,
30:21
success, and failures were portrayed. The searches
30:23
on eBay and the marketplace added so
30:25
much to the journey. I didn't realize
30:28
how much I enjoyed challenges of completing
30:30
collections until I watched these videos. Millions
30:32
of people have seen this story. Many,
30:34
and I would probably guess most of
30:37
them, don't really care for Gangar or
30:39
Pokemon even, yet we're glued to the
30:41
screen. This is why we have a
30:43
45-minute watch time, why we've generated tens
30:46
of thousands of dollars from this particular
30:48
series alone in ad revenue and have
30:50
collected many, many more new subscribers. It's
30:53
pretty incredible. Now to finish
30:55
up here, I want to tell you
30:57
about four types of stories that you
30:59
can think about right I want you
31:01
to really focus on your origin story
31:04
That's what I hope that you'll focus
31:06
on but I wanted to share some
31:08
other kinds of stories with you that
31:10
you can draw out and some sort
31:12
of quick tips about them Because there's
31:15
millions of stories you can tell but
31:17
as a creator in a creator trying
31:19
to connect with an audience and engage
31:21
with an audience I want to share
31:23
with you four types of stories and
31:26
I've already told you the first one
31:28
and I've In fact, they're exactly the
31:30
same. But the way that you approach
31:32
them and like how you tell the
31:34
parts of the story differ depending on
31:37
the type of story. So story number
31:39
one is the origin story. You have
31:41
to nail that. And if you do
31:43
believe that you don't have a great
31:45
transformational moment to tell these stories, like
31:48
I would actually argue against you for
31:50
that. Because the truth is we all
31:52
have stories. And it might be as
31:54
simple as just a little challenge during
31:56
the day while you were in traffic.
31:59
That could be a story. It doesn't
32:01
have to be something traumatic or dramatic.
32:03
However, you might have to go back
32:05
into your past to find something that
32:07
is relatable and useful for you and
32:10
your purpose of... showing up online. So,
32:12
origin stories, next let's talk about your
32:14
obstacle stories. So an obstacle story demonstrates
32:16
your resilience, right? This is the purpose
32:18
of this, your problem solving abilities while
32:21
creating trust through being vulnerable really, like
32:23
an obstacle that you've gone through, you're
32:25
sharing the insights and your emotions and
32:27
your thoughts behind it, which again, connect
32:29
with your audience, and it shows them
32:32
that you understand their challenges because you've
32:34
overcome similar ones yourself. So here's some
32:36
questions to guide you through the obstacle
32:38
stories. Number one, what is the biggest
32:40
challenge you've overcome professionally? Think about that.
32:43
What's the biggest challenge you've overcome professionally?
32:45
When did you face a seemingly impossible
32:47
situation and prevail? Again, it could be
32:49
a work thing, it could be an
32:51
at-home thing. These are just all things
32:54
to help you get ideas and start
32:56
writing things down for stories that you
32:58
can draw and go deeper with later.
33:00
What mistake taught you the most valuable
33:02
lesson? Oftentimes, our obstacles are our own
33:05
fault, which can be great to share
33:07
because we can show, hey, we're not
33:09
perfect, but we're able to figure our
33:11
way out of things. And when did
33:13
you have to pivot or change direction
33:16
dramatically? We've got obstacle stories, the things
33:18
that are in the way. and how
33:20
things once were before, the obstacle that
33:22
is now in its place. And again,
33:24
a lot of these things will overlap
33:27
with each other, right? Like my obstacle
33:29
of getting laid off. That is an
33:31
obstacle, but that also happens to be
33:33
my origin story. But there are obstacles
33:35
that I've overcome and have faced, like
33:38
my $15,000 software, horror story where I
33:40
tried to complete a software and it
33:42
didn't work out. That's an obstacle, and
33:44
I learned a lot from that. The
33:46
bigger lesson coming out of that. I
33:49
lost. And that is always rung true
33:51
with every project I've worked on if
33:53
it was just for the money alone.
33:55
And that's the primary reason for doing
33:57
something. It's always been something that hasn't
34:00
worked out. An obstacle story for me
34:02
getting on stage. frightened to death to
34:04
get on stage, but sharing that moment
34:06
at FinCon in Schaumburg, Illinois in 2011.
34:08
Fourteen years ago, my first talk on
34:11
stage, and now 300 some odd stages
34:13
later, I believe I'm a pretty good
34:15
world-class speaker. I've been paid mid-five figures
34:17
to speak and have gotten really good
34:19
results and good reviews, so I will
34:21
say that to be true. Next, vision
34:24
stories. are ones that inspire action by
34:26
planting a seed or a picture of
34:28
a better future, right? Inviting your audience
34:30
to join you on a journey of
34:32
dreaming, of possibility, of rather than just
34:35
simply like consuming your product, like what
34:37
does the future look like and then
34:39
how does your product, your story, your
34:41
blog, your podcast, your videos, how does
34:43
that fit into this bigger vision that
34:46
you have? So what future are you
34:48
working to create? The more you can
34:50
let people in on where you want
34:52
to go, the more likely people who
34:54
are all about that will want to
34:57
come along for the ride. What transformation
34:59
do you hope to bring to your
35:01
industry? How do you want things to
35:03
change? It is authoritative to say, hey,
35:05
things aren't the way they should be.
35:08
They should be like this, and this
35:10
is what we're working toward. What problem
35:12
are you uniquely positioned to solve? What
35:14
unique advantages do you have? Your unfair
35:16
advantage that you can bring into this
35:19
space and how this relates to the
35:21
vision that you are bringing people along
35:23
for the ride for? And how has
35:25
your vision evolved over time? And finally,
35:27
insight stories. So we had your origin
35:30
story, obstacle story, vision story, and now
35:32
insight stories. Insight stories. Transform your lessons
35:34
that you've learned into universal wisdom that
35:36
offers immediate value to your audience, right?
35:38
Positioning you as a guide rather than
35:41
just a success story. So this is
35:43
where you can step forward and say,
35:45
hey, this is what I've learned and
35:47
how I now see the world. I've
35:49
created my own version of a hero's
35:52
journey and added my own spin into
35:54
it for entrepreneurs, for creators. That's sharing
35:56
some insights. some lessons learned, curating all
35:58
the noise that's out there. And trust
36:00
me, there's so much noise. That is
36:03
of value to people, to curate all
36:05
the noise out there and say, hey,
36:07
this is how you can look at
36:09
this. This is a framework for you.
36:11
This is a structure on how you
36:14
can approach this thing. So here's some
36:16
questions to help you. What's a counterintuitive
36:18
lesson you've learned? And that's a great
36:20
one because it directly relates to my
36:22
book, coming out in June, lean learning.
36:25
But the truth is, you need to
36:27
learn less. That's why the subtitle is
36:29
How to Achieve More by Learning Less.
36:31
Pretty cool, right? It immediately positions me
36:33
as somebody who has something to say,
36:36
right? Not just like regurgitating what everybody
36:38
else is saying, but something counterintuitive that
36:40
I've learned over time that's helped me
36:42
get to where I'm at today. When
36:44
did you have an aha moment that
36:47
changed your perspective? that others might not
36:49
understand. So a lot of you have
36:51
heard me say, serve first, or your
36:53
earnings, or byproduct of how well you
36:55
serve your audience. These are all phrases
36:58
and quotes that I've created myself. I
37:00
remember sitting down and saying, here are
37:02
my values, okay, I can write paragraphs
37:04
about my values and what I believe
37:06
in, but how can I paraphrase this?
37:09
How can I turn it into something
37:11
memorable? How can I say what I
37:13
want to say in just a moment?
37:15
Instead of a few pages I didn't
37:17
have chat gPT back then, but you
37:20
could use chat gPT for something like
37:22
that I like to say all kinds
37:24
of things like you got to be
37:26
cringe before they binge That is a
37:28
response to people who are just afraid
37:31
to get up there and post their
37:33
videos or post their podcast episodes, and
37:35
I again that just was something I
37:37
sat down. I was like, I need
37:39
something clever for me to share these
37:42
values that I believe in as a
37:44
creator. And that is, you've got to
37:46
be, as John Lee Dumas says, a
37:48
disaster before you become the master. That's
37:50
his. I don't even know if that's
37:53
his. He's the one. shared it with
37:55
me, so I created my own and
37:57
in my own style and something I
37:59
have lived through and believe in. You
38:01
got to be cringe before they binge,
38:04
right? And so that's a phrase, but
38:06
diving into the story I could tell
38:08
of course a story about how cringe
38:10
my first pieces of content were and
38:12
if you've been on any of my
38:15
podcast webinars, you know this because I've
38:17
played my first episode for you. And
38:19
that is absolutely cringe. But then I've
38:21
shared some insight as a result of
38:23
that. Remember, transformation. Here was life before.
38:26
It was sucky. I was bad at
38:28
this and look at where we are
38:30
now. So that's how I transition into
38:32
the new world now, which is 80
38:34
plus million downloads, several podcast episodes, world-class
38:37
interviewer, etc. The last thing I want
38:39
to share with you is the idea
38:41
of building a story bank. And that
38:43
is I want you to start a
38:45
collection of stories that you may or
38:48
may not use. However you choose to
38:50
organize that, whether it's just your notepad
38:52
on your iPhone or Android, or maybe
38:54
it's a literal notepad that you keep
38:56
in your pocket, whatever. Things that happen
38:59
every day can be turned into a
39:01
story that you could share in any
39:03
way. And that rhymes. But whether it's
39:05
a 60-second short or real or tick-talk.
39:07
or a two hour long podcast episode
39:10
about an event that happened, or a
39:12
realization that you've had, whether it's an
39:14
origin story, a obstacle story, a vision
39:16
story, or an insight story. These are
39:18
things that, they're happening every day. And
39:21
like a dream, you have to write
39:23
them down, or else you're just gonna
39:25
forget them. So write these things down,
39:27
and whatever system you use to organize
39:29
that, do it. I learn that from
39:32
Ramit Seti. I've learned this from and
39:34
seen it in action from Stu McLaren.
39:36
I've also seen Ali Abdal do the
39:38
same thing and I do the same
39:40
thing too. So all that to say,
39:43
please story, learn it, live it, get
39:45
better at it, practice it. And if
39:47
there's one call to action, it's think
39:49
about your origin story today and start
39:51
to refine that. And the next time
39:54
you have a chance, record yourself or
39:56
record a video or go on a
39:58
podcast and tell that story and do
40:00
it in that framework. And I promise
40:02
you, and do it in that framework.
40:05
And I promise you, you're going to
40:07
make a bigger impact as a result
40:09
of that. Thank you so much for
40:11
listening and I appreciate you all the
40:13
best. If you're listening to this right
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now, I know something about you. You
40:18
have a dream. A dream to start
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Maybe you felt stuck in your 9-5,
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deep down, you just know it's time
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way, let me tell you something. You
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41:13
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