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known traveler, travel expert

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and industry leader and host the award winning

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travel show Traveling with Danella.

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She has held senior position at major travel

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companies including Hilton Worldwide,

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Carnival Corporation, and Norwegian

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Cruise Line holdings. Originally

1:46

from South Louisiana, she describes describes

1:50

herself as a travel enthusiasts all this

1:52

wildlife wine lover. Her

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mission is to inspire people to travel, experience

1:56

different cultures, and embrace our

1:59

shared humanity. Please welcome to the Money

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2:03

Rashad. How are you doing, Danella?

2:06

I am wonderful.

2:07

Rashaan, Hello, Hello, Hello,

2:10

I got all that senior level positions

2:12

that made you try. Why why should

2:14

somebody I'm mess you off the problem? Why should somebody

2:17

travel? What is the what are the benefits

2:19

of traveling?

2:21

Oh my god. The number one benefit to

2:24

travel is breaking down cultural

2:26

barriers, you know, just getting

2:29

out of the same old, same old. Because when

2:31

you get out and you start to travel, and whether

2:33

you're going to different states or different countries,

2:36

you start to interact with other people, it

2:39

opens your mind to a whole

2:41

different level, a different world of possibility.

2:44

That's why people should travel, so they can

2:46

get out of the same own, same

2:49

own right and experience

2:51

new things that help develop them

2:53

into better human beings.

2:55

Well, you know, I like you because I'm a person.

2:58

You know, I get caught up in the world, afraid

3:00

to lead the work, I might miss out on something.

3:02

So that travel, I'm

3:05

assuming can take that stress away or and

3:07

that's why you advise it, or just a new

3:09

experience is what you're advising.

3:13

I'm just saying, I'm advising

3:15

it as an experience, okay,

3:18

just to make us better human

3:20

beings. Because the more you get

3:22

out and you meet people from different

3:24

backgrounds and different cultures,

3:27

then it's going to help you evolve as a person.

3:30

It's going to open your mindset where you're not going

3:32

to be limited. So travel

3:35

allows you to do that. You

3:38

know, my first trip was

3:40

international Trips. Was in nineteen

3:43

ninety five, right, and I was a student

3:46

at Southern University and I went

3:48

to study abroad in Haurrari,

3:50

Zimbabwe. And man, let

3:53

me tell you, I had no idea

3:55

what I was about to experience

3:57

and go into. I knew that I

4:00

had been studying about Africa. I loved

4:02

Africa and at the time there was a new

4:04

president. His name was Nelson Mandela.

4:07

And while I couldn't get to South Africa

4:09

to the through the program, the program did

4:11

take me to neighboring Zimbobway and

4:14

I wanted to go, you know. And

4:17

uh, it was that moment that

4:19

really changed my life

4:22

when I stepped outside of Louisiana

4:25

where I grew up. Because I say, even though

4:27

I grew up in the capital city Baton Rouge,

4:29

my mom and my dad were from a small country

4:32

town called Apolusus, Louisiana. And

4:34

I remember when I went home and I announced Mom

4:37

that I would go and study abroad in Zimbabwe.

4:39

Mom said, I don't want you going to Zimbabwe.

4:43

Because they didn't know there was stereotypes.

4:45

I'm sure was like throwing fear

4:47

in them. My daughter going to Africa. What what

4:49

the lions and tigers and all

4:52

these elephants, and I'm

4:54

sure that, I'm sure that's what would put them

4:56

in that state, the stereotypes and the lack

4:58

of knowledge. And that's what you're talking a whut telling

5:01

me why travel is important because we need

5:03

to educate each other and share

5:05

the reality stories. Now I'm gonna ask

5:07

you this, because you're black and African

5:09

American and traveling for

5:12

you, did you run into stereotypes

5:14

so perceptions that people have about people

5:17

of color.

5:19

I mean, sure you run into some. You

5:24

know, when I went to live

5:26

in Europe, I'll never forget. So

5:28

I went to work for three years as an

5:30

expat in Brussels, Belgium,

5:33

and I remember, in the process

5:36

of looking even for an apartment, I

5:39

had brought along a friend who was a black Arab

5:41

girl because she spoke several languages and

5:44

they spoke French, they spoke Flemish.

5:47

But I brought her along to kind of help me translate

5:50

to get my apartment. And we

5:52

were having some difficulties and

5:54

she told me, she said, Danella, I'm

5:57

black and I'm Arab. I got two strikes

5:59

to go school. Okay, said you at least black

6:01

America she said, just talking English,

6:04

they believe Americans got money. You'll you'll

6:06

get the part.

6:11

I mean, lad, But that's that's you had to ride

6:13

the stereotype. She said. Look, I'm

6:15

really gonna hold you back now. You need

6:17

to ride with the black and American and

6:19

you're gonna be away for this translation

6:22

get translated a lot better in your situation than

6:24

me actually translating it correctly. That's

6:27

that's but that's what we deal with. That's what I've experienced.

6:29

I've experienced places I've went. You

6:31

know, I would tell my family and I tell my

6:33

friends if when I went to Paris, France,

6:36

if I had to do it all over again, you know,

6:39

I'd have graduated from college and went straight to

6:41

France because it was just sort of the culture

6:43

was just so eye opening for me. And hey, I might

6:45

have because I because when it was being French for

6:48

French, you know, the language of French was

6:50

being offered to me.

6:51

Uh.

6:52

In high school, I thought, why would I knew

6:55

France. I would never go to front why would I need to learn

6:57

French? And so now I realized that, you

7:00

know, my lack of knowledge, my lack of

7:02

travel, really didn't let

7:04

me understand the I could go there

7:06

and it probably be the most comfortable place

7:08

I would ever visit in my life was Paris,

7:11

friends exactly.

7:13

And I'll tell you Rashaan that you

7:15

know, when I went to study in Zimbabwe

7:17

and I came back to so I studied abroad.

7:19

It was through a program with Syracuse, but

7:22

I was a student at Southern right

7:25

and I was in Zimbabwe.

7:27

The first couple of friends I met were from Atlanta,

7:29

you know. They all went to Spelman, you know, wow,

7:32

And we just had this amazing

7:35

experience of living abroad. But

7:38

I'll never forget when I came back

7:40

and I started interviewing for a job,

7:43

and through the course of my career, as I interviewed

7:45

for jobs. Now, my degree was in broadcast

7:48

journalism, right, the

7:50

important interview And I'm thinking people

7:52

are going to ask me about my knowledge, my experience.

7:55

They look at my resume and see

7:57

that I lived in Africa. Has

8:00

my career involved that I lived in Europe.

8:02

All of a sudden, they didn't care about my qualifications

8:05

for the job. They wanted to hear about Africa and

8:07

they wanted to hear about Europe. And it

8:09

was those experiences that

8:12

made me an intriguing, interesting

8:14

person who they also knew, didn't

8:17

mind change and would take risks right,

8:19

and that's what got me those jobs.

8:21

Wow, now you have a very popular show,

8:23

Danella Colle Traveling with Danello. Tell

8:25

us about that show, and then we're gonna get into the history

8:28

of how that show came about. But let's first

8:30

tell us about what is Traveling with Danella.

8:34

So Traveling with Danella is

8:36

a weekly television travel

8:39

series and it actually airs in Atlanta

8:42

on Sundays at twelve

8:44

thirty and also five thirty

8:46

pm the twelve thirty pm

8:49

in the afternoons five thirty pm on Sundays

8:51

on WATL And

8:54

I take our viewers all around

8:57

the world with me, you know, interacting

8:59

in the different cultures, meeting these people

9:02

and of different diverse backgrounds and

9:04

personalities and trying the food.

9:06

So I'm kind of like your travel guys

9:09

that go you know, goes

9:11

and takes you along on these experiences with me,

9:14

so that when you're ready to travel, when you're ready

9:16

to book your trip, you already know where

9:18

to go, you know, and what to do, and

9:21

you can feel safe and since're in doing it.

9:23

So I'm the one that goes in, checks

9:25

it out and lets you know what it's all about,

9:28

so that then you can then go forward

9:30

and experience it as well.

9:32

That's really amazing that you allow us

9:34

to an entry point because

9:36

a lot of places that we consider you

9:38

kind of like kind of like going and be that like

9:41

the scout going and scout the area, scout

9:43

the good places to eat, the hotels to stay

9:45

in, and maybe even the benefits of

9:47

the tickets to buy and places to stay.

9:49

But it didn't start out like that. You was

9:52

a very very successful senior

9:55

executive. So I want to I want people

9:57

to hear what traveling with Danella is. We know

9:59

that now tell us about your life as a senior

10:01

executive.

10:04

So I had the pleasure of having

10:06

an amazing career working

10:08

in the travel industry. So I worked for some of the

10:10

billion dollar brands. I worked for

10:13

Hilton Worldwide, I worked for Norwegian

10:15

Cruise Line, and I worked for Carnival Corporations,

10:18

right, And it's

10:21

interesting, you know, my career has been

10:23

a combination of television, but then it evolved

10:25

into travel because of my love for travel

10:28

and really, you know, working at that

10:30

level, I had one dream. I love

10:32

working in the travel industry. And I looked forward

10:35

to retiring from the travel industry.

10:38

But in twenty twenty,

10:41

right, I'll never forget. It was March thirteen,

10:43

twenty twenty, and we were

10:45

notified that the cruise industry as

10:47

a whole that we were going to have to take a voluntary

10:50

pause because of COVID. At nineteen,

10:53

you know, there weren't vaccinations, and we really didn't

10:55

know what this thing was, but we knew

10:57

that we were going to have to shut down operations.

11:00

And originally we thought a week, two weeks,

11:02

then we thought it was going to be a month. Then all of

11:04

a sudden, the harsh reality of country

11:07

shutting down, borders closing, the world

11:09

is closing. You know, we couldn't even go

11:11

to church. You remember with KVID nineteen, right.

11:16

And some people were trapped on cruise ships,

11:18

if I remember correctly, right, they

11:21

were.

11:22

We had to get passengers in some cases

11:24

from Asia, from South America,

11:26

really from all over the world. That's a whole

11:29

nother story in itself to tell you what we had to

11:31

do to get passengers back home.

11:34

But we had to shook completely

11:36

shut down global operations, and for

11:38

over a year we had no passengers

11:41

on cruise ships. During that time,

11:43

I was leading a team of over forty people.

11:45

I had a team that worked at the headquarters,

11:48

at the corporate headquarters, and I had a team that

11:50

worked on board those ships. And I

11:52

had to lay off all of those people. And

11:55

then no sooner than I laid them off, my

11:57

boss came in and he laid me off. And

12:00

as I started feeling sorry for myself, he said,

12:02

don't feel sorry for yourself, because I lost my job

12:05

too.

12:05

Wow. Wow, Wow.

12:07

The whole industry just was just just

12:10

shut down.

12:10

Financially, we shut down, we

12:13

shut down. And during

12:15

that time of lockdown, you

12:18

know, I was just trying to figure out what's next, What do I

12:20

want to do that's next? You know, I started sipping

12:22

and painting, and then you know, my friend said, I was

12:24

sipping more than I was painting, So I had to do

12:26

something else.

12:31

You don't want to be a drunk painter. That don't want

12:33

to be a drunk painter.

12:34

Right, exactly,

12:37

exactly. So I got a call from

12:39

a friend who had launched a streaming television

12:41

station, who knew me from days when

12:44

you know, I used to do some television things. He

12:46

was like, look, I got a new streaming station. I need

12:49

some content. Why don't you produce a show just

12:51

like that?

12:51

Okay, now let's slow this down. Now, somebody just

12:54

gonna call you up. Okay, you were there

12:56

sipping and trying to paint in

12:58

a state of shy. We're in the middle of COVID

13:01

and you can't you don't have a job, and

13:04

so somebody calls you with

13:06

an opportunity. See this. I always

13:08

just slowed it down because so many people at this point

13:11

in life, when they in a state

13:13

of confusion and state of darkness, they have no

13:15

path, the way to success, no

13:18

plan of action. But that call

13:20

came to you. When that call came

13:23

to you, what was your plan of action?

13:25

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13:54

You know, when the call came

13:56

to me, I always knew I wanted to get back onto

13:58

television. I always knew I wanted to produce

14:02

and host my old travel

14:04

television show. So I was like, wow,

14:07

you know, the opportunity is here now. When he

14:09

originally called I really didn't, you know. I

14:11

was like, I gotta think about this, because I'll even

14:13

go about doing this. And I'll tell you the defining

14:16

moment for SHN. It was COVID nineteen.

14:18

It's two o'clock in the morning. I ain't got no job,

14:20

so I'm watching TV and Kelly

14:24

Clarkson comes on and she's doing

14:27

her show remotely.

14:28

You know.

14:28

It's kind of like that ghool stream format

14:31

that everybody was doing during COVID, right,

14:33

and I swear to god, it looked like she

14:35

had rolled out of bed and she needed a brush

14:37

to her hair. But

14:41

she does her show, and I'm

14:43

like, man, it looks like

14:46

she's doing that show from home possibly

14:48

or wherever. But there weren't studio audiences

14:51

during Kobe and right right right,

14:53

and then I can produce this show right

14:55

from home. So I just decided,

14:58

you know what, We're gonna produce this show and do this travel

15:00

show. And then I called this guy

15:02

who through the years, you know, who

15:04

I admired, I respected, and

15:06

I was like, well, even if I do the show, what am I gonna

15:09

call it? And I had all these little quirky,

15:12

you know names, because I was like, Noah, he'll

15:14

he'll he'll tell me, he'll advise me best.

15:17

So I called this guy, good friend of

15:19

mine named Rashawan Nick Dun the

15:26

kind of like, yeah, I want to do a travel show, but

15:28

I don't know what to call it. You know, here are a few

15:31

ideas, and he said, probably traveling

15:33

with Danella. All right, I gotta go.

15:39

I wasn't that up fro. I didn't say it that

15:41

quick, did I?

15:43

You said it that click you're on the phone,

15:46

and that was this show. I was like, okay, so

15:49

I guess we're gonna call it Traveling with Danella.

15:51

Welcome back to money making conversations. Hosting

15:55

an award winning show called

15:57

Traveler with Danella. She just told everybody

15:59

how she got them. She called me and

16:01

then I just said, call it traveling with Dnnell. I gotta

16:03

go by. And it's led to her

16:06

traveling all over this world. In the

16:08

middle of COVID, she pursued a dream and

16:11

I, you know the thing about

16:13

it, When people call me, I don't

16:15

just say things off the top of my head. I

16:18

see the talent, and she knows that. I always

16:20

saw her not being a corporate exec

16:23

I always saw her being on television

16:25

doing things, traveling. She was traveling anyway,

16:27

and even as a senior executive, she

16:30

was a great She always spoke at events.

16:32

She always got awards. If they needed somebody

16:34

to receive the award, they always sent Danella to receive

16:36

the award. And so so

16:39

when she called me, it was like, why

16:42

are you almost not saying why you bothered

16:44

me when the obvious is the obvious. I'm

16:47

a marketing and branding person. Your name

16:49

is Danella. That's a fantastic name.

16:51

You're traveling. Call it traveling

16:53

with Danella. And guess what it is? Stuck And

16:56

she's been traveling every since, correct,

17:00

that is it?

17:01

Traveling all over the world. And Rashan, I'll

17:03

tell you another funny story.

17:06

Now, this was around nineteen ninety

17:08

nine, two thousand, so

17:11

I had been living and working in Europe and

17:13

I came back to the States and

17:17

you and Steve Harvey were doing his

17:19

radio show and you guys

17:21

had auditions for the Angels

17:24

right in.

17:25

Los Angeles and Los Angeles he

17:28

was a co host. If we called them an Angels they were co

17:30

hosts that we had on the shows, three of them.

17:33

There you go. So I actually auditioned

17:36

to be an angel that

17:39

I don't remember.

17:40

I would tell you that right now. I don't remember that.

17:43

Years later, what was funny, So

17:46

as Steve is interviewing me

17:48

live on the radio to be an angel,

17:50

you know, he's asking me, well, you know

17:53

about my background, what have I been doing? And

17:55

you know, I had been working in travel.

17:58

I'd been a little disconnected from television

18:00

and radio, but I still had experience and background

18:02

in it. And you know, he asked

18:05

me to tell him about some of my travels and I remember

18:07

telling him I had just come back from the south of

18:09

France, right and had been at the French

18:11

grown Frie And you

18:13

know, she was like, oh my god, you.

18:15

Know you kind of bulls right

18:18

right, right right right.

18:22

My life, this is my experience. Well,

18:24

needless to say, I had a great time on the radio

18:27

with him that day. You know, I got a chance to

18:29

share a little bit about me. But lo

18:31

and beho, you guys did not pick me,

18:34

No.

18:34

We did not.

18:34

We did not pick you. We was picked Shirley

18:37

Nadka and get

18:39

the car lesson. She's gonna be mad that I forgot her last

18:41

name, but it was three Lazy. If we picked they were off

18:43

in the LA area though, so I understand

18:45

why they were selected. And Shirley was like the

18:47

Veteran Boys. And she's still

18:49

on the radio show with Steve Harvey today Shirley

18:52

Strawberry and doing the Strawberry Letters, which has now

18:54

become famous and part of pop

18:56

pop culture. But you know, the thing

18:58

about it is that that's interesting. I don't

19:00

remember that in nineteen ninety, but I

19:03

know exactly the timeline that

19:05

you were talking about because we changed

19:07

so many lives with that morning show, Steve Harry Morning

19:09

Show. But now you're changing lives with traveling

19:11

with Danella. And the thing about it is that you

19:13

said that you started this travel

19:16

show in the middle of COVID, but you started

19:18

traveling to different countries doing

19:21

COVID doing your show. Correct, we

19:23

did?

19:24

We did?

19:24

How did you pull that off?

19:25

Because well, because I was

19:28

already known in the industry,

19:30

because I was an executive. As borders

19:32

started opening, I started getting

19:35

calls from you know, different heads

19:37

of tourism from different countries saying, Danela,

19:40

come bring your film crew. Let people know they

19:42

can travel to the virgin Is and they can

19:44

come to Jamaica. They can come all these places.

19:47

So I said, oh my God, and borders are open

19:49

and we can travel, then let me get the film

19:51

crew together. We're doing more than this zoom streaming

19:54

show. You know, we're going to we're hitting

19:56

the road and we're going to broadcast television.

19:58

Right.

19:59

So first Miami WSSL

20:01

came to the table. They wanted to show weekly.

20:03

Then the show went to Seattle NBC King

20:06

King five and calm to the show. Then

20:08

you know, now, like I said, we're on two times

20:11

on Sundays on WATL in Atlanta

20:14

at twelve thirty and six thirty, and we're

20:16

in forty different cities weekly.

20:19

But yes, when those borders open,

20:21

we started getting those calls and Rashaan.

20:24

Since twenty twenty, we are now filming

20:26

season eight. We have filmed over

20:29

fifty different shows. That's

20:31

how much we've been going. So we

20:34

have been in the space shows, we've been in Tahiti,

20:36

we have me oh my god,

20:39

all over Europe, all over the Caribbean.

20:42

This upcoming season, as we're filming,

20:44

we're getting ready to go to South

20:47

Korea. We're gonna be filming Niagara

20:49

Falls in Canada soon we

20:51

are you know.

20:53

You know, it's so inspiring because

20:56

this was not your you know, you'd ready

20:58

to retire as a senior executive.

21:01

That was your your pathway, you

21:03

know, even though you had the talent, you had

21:05

the ability and the dream of doing that. If

21:08

this COVID situation would not have

21:10

happened. And we know it was not a

21:13

happy thing that happened for anybody. Your

21:16

career as an award winning

21:18

TV host, a travel a

21:21

person who's been vetted as an expert in

21:23

the industry, now hosting the show to talk

21:25

about the various places that an individual

21:27

like me can travel to, would have never

21:29

happened.

21:30

Correct, that's correct,

21:32

That's correct. The best thing that ever

21:34

happened to me was COVID nineteen because

21:38

it allowed me to release myself

21:41

of the corporate shackles to voluntarily

21:43

or involuntarily it happens, right,

21:46

and I found myself. You know,

21:48

I became an entrepreneur. I wasn't expecting

21:50

to become an entrepreneur.

21:52

You know.

21:52

In addition to starting the television show, we

21:54

launched our you know, production company, Sort

21:56

Entertainment and Media. And here

21:59

I am reducing my own shows.

22:01

I have a business partner, Don Wiggins, who you

22:03

also know from the days of radio, who's

22:06

also a legend in his own right. And

22:10

I never imagine being an entrepreneur,

22:12

but I wish I would have did it years

22:14

and years ago.

22:16

Because you always had the spirit, the independent

22:19

thought process. So stepping out of

22:21

the box, and that's what the entrepreneur does. They step

22:23

out of the box and they realized that for

22:25

that our week is traditional. But

22:27

that doesn't mean that I'm a traditional thinking

22:29

person. But you do a quote that I see

22:31

a lot on your Instagram, your TikTok

22:34

accounts, is it look back

22:37

on your life and say, thank God I

22:39

had the courage to go. What does

22:41

that mean?

22:42

Yes, that simply means,

22:44

like I told you, Even when I came home

22:47

and told my mom, I've been accepted

22:49

in the Study Abroad program to go study

22:52

in Zimbabwe in nineteen ninety

22:54

five, you know, and mom was

22:56

like, what the heck and why would you want

22:59

to go to Africa? Like he said, there were so many

23:01

stereotypes around that, and

23:03

my mom had so much fear of me

23:06

going. But I said, mom, you know,

23:08

said I don't want you to go to Zimbabwe, I

23:10

said, Mom is Zimbabe Wade and I'm

23:12

going, you

23:14

know. And you know, I look

23:16

back on my life and I say, thank God

23:19

I had the courage to go, you

23:21

know. And then when the next opportunity came

23:23

years later, and now it was to go

23:25

and live in Brussels, Belgium and help launch

23:27

a travel company there, you know, living as

23:29

an expat living in a Flemish speaking

23:32

community first, then going to a French speaking

23:34

community and barely seeing,

23:36

you know, any other black people to

23:38

only of the black people were Africans that

23:40

I met in the community, but certainly actually

23:43

the one American friend that I met who became

23:46

my best friend and she is still my

23:48

best friends till today was a Clark Atlanta

23:50

University, and I met her in Brussels,

23:53

Belgium as well.

23:55

But you just could not get away

23:57

from I

24:00

cannot the spell Atlantic

24:02

and you would clock Atlanta University where we broadcast

24:05

our show every Tuesday, and Atlanta

24:07

is on the campus WCLK, it's

24:10

home station that we broadcast from. And then

24:13

you, of course you went to Southern University.

24:15

But as we wrap up the show, I want to ask

24:17

you this, why is cruising

24:19

so popular? Oh

24:23

my god.

24:23

Cruising is just so popular because

24:26

for me, cruising is easy. I

24:28

love it because you know, you

24:30

get on the ship, you unpack once it becomes

24:32

your home for the week or the period that you're on the

24:34

ship, and I love waking

24:37

up in the mornings and opening those curtains from

24:39

my balcony and I'm in a different destination.

24:41

I am in a different place. You

24:43

know, cruising can take you all around the

24:46

world. It's something that you kind of have to

24:48

settle into because people who cruise one

24:50

time two times you might not get the hang of

24:52

it. But by your third, four or fifth time, and

24:54

you kind of settle in and you start to

24:57

love it. And there's something I really

24:59

amaze myself about with Shawn. You know,

25:01

I worked for some of the big cruise lines, but

25:04

once I started doing the show, we started filming

25:06

river cruising some of the smaller

25:08

cruise lines, and man, I fell in love

25:11

with river cruising. And that's one of my

25:13

favorite ways to see Europe on

25:15

a river cruise because you know, we pull

25:18

into whether it's Amsterdam or Paris,

25:20

and man, you're able to just step off that street onto

25:22

the sidewalk and keep it moving.

25:24

Wow.

25:24

So I just love it.

25:26

Wow. Well, you know, like I said, you know for

25:29

industry, because I've read many articles how to

25:32

the cruise industry is exploding, and you

25:34

know, people launching bigger

25:37

and bigger ships. You see them on TV all

25:39

the time. People swinging off decks.

25:41

They can they can, they can play golf, play

25:44

basketball, they can do They got many

25:46

circus performers on these It's

25:49

really an amazing experience now. But

25:52

the bottom line is seeing your life has become

25:54

an amazing, an amazing experience, watching

25:56

you go from a person

25:58

I auditioned for the Steve Harvey

26:01

Morning show Angels on nineteen ninety

26:03

nine and two thousand to now hosting

26:05

the award winning show called Traveling

26:08

with Danella. Congratulations, thank you for taking

26:10

the time to come on on my show. But more important than you, understand

26:13

the value of being an entrepreneur.

26:16

Thank you so much, Rashaan, I appreciate

26:19

you always.

26:20

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26:22

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26:24

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