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My guest do Money Making Conversation Masterclass

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is Ryan Wilson. He is the co founder

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and CEO of The Gathering Spot, a

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private membership network that serves as a hub

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for collaboration and business

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connections for African Americans

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and minority The Gathering Spot opened

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in Atlanta in twenty sixteen and has

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expanded nationally, creating

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the most significant fintech and

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community platform for blacks and minorities

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where they combine collaborating business community

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of over one million people. Please

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welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass, Ryan

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Wilson.

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How you doing Ryan, Well?

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Thanks for having me.

1:01

Tell us about the Gathering Spot twenty

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sixteen. I had to start before that with a

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dream, with an idea who

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pushed an idea and how did it happen?

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So it did start before twenty

1:12

sixteen. I like to say that a lot of times

1:14

folks think that businesses start overnight,

1:17

but our process was truly at night.

1:19

I started writing about TGS in twenty

1:21

thirteen, and my plan growing

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up was to be an attorney. So I was in law school in DC

1:26

and came up with the idea to really

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rethink or reimagine the private

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city club experience. Sent the idea

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to my college roommate and we worked

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for about three years before the first gathering Spart

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opened in March of twenty sixteen.

1:39

Now that sounded really simple,

1:41

Ryan, Okay, you know, y'all,

1:44

I had a great idea and then all of a sudden

1:47

it happened. Because we know it didn't

1:49

happen because people pushed back on great

1:51

ideas, especially when it's not normal,

1:54

especially when it's not a

1:56

part of a community that that experience

1:58

happens. What would the pushbacks and where

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were the obstacles and getting it opened?

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So I actually counted the

2:05

obstacles in the early days, so I thought it was important

2:08

to know just how many of them we were collecting

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our first round of funding required

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three million dollars of capital to be raised,

2:15

and it was ninety seven people

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that told us no in a row before we

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got to our first yes. I at

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the time was twenty two, twenty

2:24

three years old, and

2:26

we just kept going. I mean, the thing that we

2:28

told ourselves during that time period was that

2:31

we really were seeing something that the market

2:33

couldn't see, right, and that honestly there

2:35

was a good thing in the nose that we were

2:37

getting from folks, because they were actually

2:40

indications that we were probably headed

2:42

actually in the right direction because they couldn't

2:44

see what we were trying to accomplish.

2:46

But ninety seven people before

2:49

the first yes, and then after

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that first yes, we're able to move a little bit faster

2:54

and.

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Start the construction process of the first TGS.

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Now the first TGS Atlanta Georgia,

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because you were saying, you said DC earlier

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in your conversation, why Atlanta, Georgia

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was the gathering spot to open it in Atlanta,

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Georgia was the perfect location.

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I think Atlanta is one of the more important cities in the

3:11

country right now. If you look at

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the colleges and universities, if you look at the small

3:15

business community, if you look at the large

3:17

companies that call Atlanta home, and

3:20

then if you look at the creative community. I really

3:22

think that what we export more than anything else

3:24

in the city is our culture. So

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when I thought about a place that I would want to

3:28

be where there would be different people connecting

3:31

with one another, I wanted to be in a city

3:33

where black folks were in leadership

3:36

and leading the city. But

3:38

also we're doing it from a variety of different

3:40

industries. And so I decided to come

3:43

back home. I'm from here, but this

3:46

city is special. Atlanta is

3:49

an incredibly special place, and I

3:51

wanted to be a part of the growth of what I thought

3:53

the city was going to experience.

3:55

And I have degree I know that.

3:56

Steve Harvey and I when we left

3:59

New York and was trying to figure out a place where

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we wanted to set up our businesses, our headquarters,

4:03

and in two thousand and seven we moved to Atlanta

4:06

because we felt that it was just the right environment,

4:09

the right type of African Americans to

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do business with. It was uploading

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mobile As far as cost of living,

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we felt that was in line right there. And

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also since two thousand and something, you've

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seen how the especially with Tyler

4:23

Perry moving his theater down here and the other

4:26

the tremendous growth in the television

4:29

and film and streaming industry in here. In

4:32

twenty sixteen, you said, you

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know, you have to be a you have to kind of be a visionary

4:36

when you start setting up these ideas.

4:39

Was that Did you see that, Brian or

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you just this just happened and you're just excited

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about being a part of being along for the ride.

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I mean, I saw it, but more importantly, I

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felt it. Right when I came back home. I could

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I could feel the energy that was in the city.

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And this is a.

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Big city to a certain extent, that still feels like

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a small town. You can build relationships

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here. So I would come back to Atlanta and

5:04

we would get more done in a couple of days

5:06

in the city, and it felt like we were getting done anywhere

5:08

else we were trying to raise money.

5:10

So I felt

5:12

that energy. I felt the fact

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that.

5:15

People were rooting for you here,

5:17

that they're willing to help you, and that was a part

5:19

of the culture. So it

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made all the sense in the world. And I mean, honestly,

5:24

again, I'm in my early twenties

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at this part of the journey, So

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I didn't have much to be afraid of,

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right it was. It was exciting

5:34

more than anything else, just to be able to have the

5:37

chance to have a chance.

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Well over dayson Roy I'm talking to Rod Wilson, the

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co founder, the CEO of the Gathering Spot

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of private membership network that serves as a

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hub and collaboration for business connections

5:47

for African Americans and minorities.

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Now, I mean it

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takes a lot of confidence.

5:53

I won't say the word arrogance to say

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you're a young guy and say I need three million

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dollars and then go in the room convincing people I

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need this amount of money. Now, what's

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your background to give you that level of

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confidence? And what type of presentation

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did you have to put together to convince

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people that this would work.

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So I had the benefit of my parents were

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entrepreneurs, and so I grew up not wanting to start

6:16

a business at all because I saw that life.

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I saw what my.

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Parents went through to build

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and scale the companies that they

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had started.

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The best advice that I could give folks that.

6:28

Are that are staring at an idea that they have is

6:30

just to know that it isn't random. Right,

6:32

there's something that's really leading you

6:34

to the point of wanting to do whatever

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it is that you want to do. And it's

6:39

important to be a good steward of what I saw is my

6:41

assignment. My mission

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is to connect people. I'm a community builder,

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and look, I don't

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get a chance to do life over from what

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I understand, and so I didn't want to

6:52

have any regrets about not trying.

6:54

And at that point, again, I'm in my twenties, so if

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it didn't work out, my mind it was like, well,

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i'll go back. I'll have plenty of time

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to figure out a plan B. But I

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couldn't live with the what if. And so our

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plan was to just to give it a shot.

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And thankfully, thanks

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to a lot of really, really good people that were helpful

7:14

to us, we were able to get off the ground and

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run.

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Now it's so enlightening.

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I remember, I'm born and raised in Houston, Texas, Okay,

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lived in Chicago for five years, in New York

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for four years, so LA for fifteen

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years, and so I understand the culture of

7:27

this country, especially from the black

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perspective, because I've lived it, I've

7:32

experienced it, and so you've expanded

7:34

this.

7:35

Environment of the gathering spot.

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Now, what are the other two locations or other

7:39

locations that you have of all the locations

7:42

that you are considering and why?

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So we built the second TGS in Washington,

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d C. I met I went to school

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in DC for underground and for law school. Built

7:52

the third one in Los Angeles, and then we have

7:54

something called Connected Cities, where if

7:57

you know anything about the gathering spot, we

7:59

programmed a lot. We do a lot of events, and so

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our mission during the pandemic, when

8:04

we couldn't gather in the way that we traditionally, what

8:06

we're doing was to start to

8:09

build things that you could

8:11

do maybe that weren't necessarily connected

8:13

to the physical locations. So in five

8:15

other cities New York, Chicago, Detroit,

8:17

Houston, and Charlotte, we have what we call Connected

8:20

Cities. And so there are thousands of members

8:22

that are a part of those clubs

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in the cities that I referenced that don't

8:26

have access to a physical space yet, but

8:28

do have access to our programming into the community.

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The goal is to build physical locations

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and all of those markets plus.

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Some Okay, let me do I just want to

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slow it down a little bit, right, you

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know, because I know what the gathering spot

8:41

is. When I read this out, I say a private

8:43

membership network. It serves

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as a hub for collaboration and

8:48

business connections for African Americans, the

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minority. What does that mean

8:52

and how does that membership

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register?

8:56

So we have the best way

8:58

to understand TGS is that we build

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physical spaces where everyone's

9:03

welcome. But we are focused on

9:05

making sure that black folks in particular

9:08

feel celebrated at

9:10

everything at every turn of what we do. Our

9:13

clubs have events space, so we host

9:15

a lot of different events throughout the year.

9:18

We have a restaurant and bar space, and then we have workspace.

9:21

The reason why people join, though, is

9:23

because of the network, because of the community. So

9:26

my job each and every day is to try to figure out

9:28

how to introduce people that ordinarily

9:31

would not have met one another. The youngest

9:33

member is twenty one, the oldest member

9:35

is now ninety one, and so my

9:38

job is to no matter what you do, and

9:41

if you go to a gathering spot, you'll see people wearing

9:43

T shirts sitting next to people who are wearing

9:45

suits, right, and my job is to

9:47

try to figure out where is the common ground

9:50

and where can we build a relationship, hopefully

9:52

for business purposes or honestly for people just

9:54

to meet others that they need to know socially.

9:57

You know, it's really interesting.

9:59

I'm talking to Ryan Wilson and uh,

10:02

you know, I've been to the gathering start

10:04

for events. I've been to gathering spots for

10:06

meetings. It's a certain pride

10:09

that you give young entrepreneurs.

10:11

That's that's that's my biggest takeaway, Ryan,

10:14

is that when I meet young entrepreneurs,

10:16

they say, can you meet me at the gathering spot? You

10:18

know, and our meeting is at a table,

10:21

you know, and probably in the in the in the

10:23

dining area. And

10:25

you know, when you when you walk into the gathering

10:27

spot, ladies and gentlemen, it's you're

10:30

met. It's an amazing

10:32

experience because it's

10:34

beautiful first of all, and you

10:37

walk in and every step of the way

10:39

you felt like you walked you

10:42

walked into a world of professionalism.

10:44

Every step of the way. Soon as you walk into the

10:47

dining area, you know, everybody's

10:50

everybody feel like they're motivated

10:52

to do something unique

10:54

for themselves and special. I guess

10:56

you have to experience that to understand

10:59

what I'm talking about. Because when

11:01

we walk this is not like walking into spaces.

11:03

This is not like walking into we works where

11:06

they do runt out the offices

11:08

and they do run out the desk

11:11

and all that. This is the experience where you

11:13

have people tied with the word

11:15

pride.

11:16

Am I right?

11:16

Then?

11:16

When I say that, Ryan, No, I

11:18

appreciate that. I mean that's our goal.

11:20

Right.

11:20

If I to use another

11:23

reference point, I mean different age group here.

11:25

But if you think about the experience

11:28

that a lot of folks had when they walked into

11:30

their high school cafeteria

11:32

or the cafeteria at college,

11:34

right where everybody was there. It was

11:37

a place where that you could build relationships,

11:39

you could work, you could hang out right, but

11:41

it was family right. It felt it felt warm.

11:44

That is what we are trying to make sure that the

11:46

adults that are members of the club have

11:49

a similar experience. And so people

11:51

are there for different reasons. Again, some folks are there to

11:53

get some work done. Others are there to meet people

11:56

and try to get business deals done. But

11:59

all in all, we want it to be a welcoming

12:01

and warm experience that you know was built for you.

12:05

We have this idea a lot of times that the spaces

12:07

that we move in and out of were built

12:10

for everybody. Well, look, my belief

12:12

is that somebody was thinking about

12:14

somebody when they built whatever it is that you're

12:17

using. I was thinking about

12:19

black folks when we were building the Gathering

12:21

Spot, and so the music that you hear,

12:23

the food that you'll eat, and the people that you'll see

12:26

all go back to this very simple

12:28

idea. We need to have a place where we feel comfortable.

12:30

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Well you know, I, you know, this is the

13:01

fun part by talking to Ryan. I love

13:03

talking to them because you know, I saw in like

13:05

a couple of years it was a big event that I

13:07

tended to hosted over at the Gathering Spot because

13:09

it's also by community and I wanted

13:11

people have emphasized that.

13:13

That's why I've been to like several

13:15

events there. I think the.

13:18

African American Museum had an event there

13:20

where they had a fundraiser there. I went to the event, but

13:22

that, of course, in my most recent event was

13:24

the Big Brother's Big Sister event

13:27

where they were it was engaging

13:29

black men to come to the gathering

13:31

spot and be mentors for

13:34

young young people. And this

13:36

is the type of a home that you've created.

13:40

What makes you so proud about it?

13:42

Ryan, Well,

13:44

I'm grateful more than anything. Right when

13:46

we started this journey, I had no idea that anybody

13:49

was going to come into The first gathering spot is

13:51

twenty five thousands worth feet, right, and

13:53

so that's a lot of space

13:55

to fill up on any given day.

13:57

So to know that from

14:00

the President of the United States, to your favorite

14:02

artists, to the many,

14:05

many figures and leaders throughout town, including

14:07

yourself that have spent time

14:10

at TGS and hosted

14:12

programs talked about the important issues

14:14

that are happening in our community. I'm just

14:16

grateful that folks saw this idea

14:18

that we had in our head and have invested

14:21

their time with us. More

14:23

memories to count. I mean the club in Atlanta,

14:26

we tried to look at it the other day. I think we're like ten

14:29

thousand events in and

14:32

so it's humbling.

14:34

It's amazing, it's about it's

14:37

about changing lives, and that's what I've

14:39

you know, I'm an call him a young man, you know, because

14:42

he started his idea and it's

14:44

important to realize that if you

14:46

have a dream, don't feel

14:48

that you're too young or too old to

14:51

start pursuing it. And he

14:53

started it in his early twenties and he's

14:55

still living it now in his early thirties.

14:58

So the future is bright and future strong. And now

15:00

he's expanded. He's on the show for some other

15:02

things. The Atlanta Business League has

15:04

celebrated their natieth anniversary. Before

15:07

we get into that more detail, I just want

15:09

to wrap my head around one more thing,

15:11

the fintech, which is financial tech

15:14

and the community platforms that are available

15:16

at the gathering spot. When you hear the word

15:18

fintech, a lot being thrown

15:20

around what exactly is that

15:23

and how you

15:25

guys being one of the lynch

15:27

pins are one of the forward

15:29

thinking platforms for that.

15:32

So fintech broadly speaks to this idea

15:35

that there are a new set of companies that are trying

15:37

to provide financial services

15:39

or financial solutions to people. So

15:41

from savings and credit

15:44

to investing. You will see the

15:47

company over time really speaks

15:49

to the entire financial health of our community.

15:52

Why that's important is that at TGS,

15:54

I mentioned all the programs that we've been

15:56

hosting for our entire history. A

15:58

lot of those conversations get back to us talking

16:00

about money, right, but we realized that

16:03

we didn't.

16:03

Actually have the tool.

16:05

We could talk about it, right, but we didn't have the ability

16:08

to bank or help our

16:10

community actually gain access to the tools

16:13

that we were speaking about. We can talk about

16:15

it and host our programs and meet one another, but then

16:17

we also get connected to the right resources

16:20

that again at scale, becomes a really

16:22

powerful thing.

16:24

You know when I bring interviews onto the

16:26

show, and I it

16:28

was a couple of things that happened in my life, you know, like I told

16:30

you, Like I said, Ryan, I was born in Houston, and

16:32

then I moved to New York when I thought I was going to

16:35

be the next Eddie Murphy going to my stand

16:37

up comedy career, and it was just how

16:40

how empowering that city was emotionally

16:42

for me. And then when I moved to LA because you know, you kind

16:44

of grow up and you really realize how much

16:46

history is taught to you about New York. So when you

16:49

get up there, you kind of like walking around going wow, that's

16:51

wow, Wow, Brooklyn Bridge, Wow, Empire State

16:53

Bility. And then when I went to La it

16:55

was the same way. You know, Muscle

16:58

Beach and Uncle

17:00

of Fame and the Chinese Theater. And it's

17:02

becoming the same way with the city of Atlanta.

17:04

There's becoming a lot of landmarks.

17:07

The big events are constantly being

17:09

held here. And when you talk about

17:11

the Atlanta Business League, what is your

17:13

relationship with them and what's the purpose

17:15

of us discussing it on the show today?

17:18

So I have the privilege serving as the new chair of the Atlanta

17:20

Business League, and it's important

17:23

for everyone to know if you are a black owned business

17:26

in Atlanta, you have been impacted

17:28

by the work of the Atlanta Business League. This is our

17:30

ninetieth year as an organization, and

17:32

so my job is in

17:35

that very rich history to continue

17:37

the effort to advocate

17:39

and advance the interests of black owned

17:42

businesses in Atlanta specifically.

17:44

So we've got a great, great

17:47

organization and a great history, but

17:50

also a great current membership

17:52

that is again focused on the

17:54

issues of the day.

17:56

Now when you talk about the congress this purpose, I

17:58

line up our target audience, ke takeaways

18:00

for the attendees. Talk about that because it's

18:02

sponsors Norfolk Southern WCLK,

18:05

and Atlanta AJAC, which

18:07

is a print publication is located

18:09

in the Atlanta, Georgia area. Those

18:12

important sponsors are important.

18:14

You got to mention them, You got to be able to say what

18:16

they do and they serve their purpose. But what

18:18

audience are you really trying to reach?

18:20

So everyone is welcome.

18:21

Keep that, please keep that in mind, right, but our

18:23

focus is everything connected

18:26

to black owned businesses that

18:28

are in Atlanta and the folks that are

18:30

interested in partnering with them. So you will see

18:32

some of the largest companies in town. I thank

18:34

you for mentioning our sponsors,

18:37

but you will see some of the larger organizations in

18:39

talent that are interested in doing business

18:41

with some of the businesses that are

18:43

the members of the league also. Present

18:46

goal of this day is again to talk about

18:48

the important issues that we're seeing. We

18:51

will engage what's happening

18:53

in the market broadly, but then also give very

18:56

practical advice by

18:58

way of of

19:00

panel discussions about what

19:03

black owned businesses in the city can be or

19:05

should be thinking about as they continue to grow and

19:07

scale their companies.

19:08

You know, it's really interesting because and I

19:11

think you can agree with me, Like in twenty

19:13

twenty, you know, the pandemic camp but also

19:15

the unfortunate murder

19:18

of George

19:20

Floyd in the state of

19:22

Minnesota, and there was a huge

19:24

push for diversity, equity inclusion.

19:27

Well, I'm out in the business just like you.

19:29

It feels like that law for

19:31

that push because politics are getting

19:33

involved in it means that you know,

19:36

people trying to say diversity is a bad

19:38

word shouldn't be using it. It's like

19:40

a reverse racism in a sense. Now

19:43

when you talk about black businesses,

19:45

you know, one time they were you know, companies

19:48

were pursuing us, pursuing our opportunities.

19:50

It feels not with a different hustle speed.

19:52

Now am I Am I wrong in saying

19:54

that?

19:55

Brian? Are you seeing something differently than what I'm

19:57

seeing?

19:58

No, I'm not seeing my different look. One

20:00

of my favorite quotes is do you really want to win or look good

20:03

losing? And I think unfortunately

20:05

a lot of times in the diversity, equity and inclusion

20:08

space, it's not always about winning,

20:10

right, It's about looking good. Losing

20:13

that is not in our interest, right, We actually

20:16

have to It's in everybody's interest, no

20:18

matter who you are, that black owned

20:20

businesses grow in scale. We've

20:23

got to continue to see yes them

20:25

be started, right, but also

20:27

watch these companies get to meaningful

20:30

scale. What that means are more employment

20:33

opportunities for folks. That means

20:35

better participation in our communities

20:37

and the ability to be able to spend

20:39

in our community. So look,

20:41

I do agree with you that we are entering a time period

20:43

where it feels like, you

20:46

know, we came saw and conquered as it, you

20:48

know, as we needed to for black honed

20:50

businesses and our our advocacy

20:52

and support of them. Right, We're

20:55

not there yet, and I mean the

20:57

ninety years of the Atlanta Business League tells

20:59

you pretty quickly that we've had a lot to discuss for

21:01

a long time. But uh, we're

21:04

not nowhere near the finish line,

21:06

and it's important to continue to keep a spotlight

21:09

on what is a very important issue.

21:12

I just want to say this, you rhyme, you know, the

21:14

gatherer spot Like I said, we have

21:16

two three physical locations.

21:18

One is in d C.

21:19

Of course, the headquarters is in Atlanta or

21:21

home bases in Atlanta and then Los

21:23

Angeles. Now you over did

21:25

Atlanta Business League, a historic organization

21:29

that has been fighting,

21:31

fighting the fight. And you're a young guy

21:34

man, and I'm so impressed with that. The

21:36

maturity and the responsibility

21:39

cares a certain burden with it. How

21:41

do you allow that to allow you to be

21:43

yourself and continue to understand that

21:46

you can't do it all?

21:48

Look, I look at this as responsibility

21:51

and if you know your history

21:53

right, you know that there were there were good people

21:55

for a long time, uh, fighting

21:57

way harder than what I can

22:00

say that I am on a daily basis,

22:02

I wake up and go to work each day break but

22:05

thanks to their sacrifice and able

22:07

to do it in a context where the work,

22:11

while still difficult, is nowhere

22:13

near What if you again understand

22:16

our history, our ancestors

22:18

face and so I wake up every day

22:21

with that knowledge and knowing that it's

22:23

important to continue to figure out how to keep going

22:26

on with organizations

22:28

like the Atlanta Business League. I would

22:30

not be able to be in business if it were

22:32

not for the Atlanta Business League. I decided to come

22:34

back to Atlanta in my twenties, raise

22:37

money and thought it was possible

22:39

because organizations like the ABL

22:41

has shown it.

22:42

So so.

22:44

We have a responsibility to keep

22:47

all of these efforts going. And

22:49

so I would really appreciate folks

22:51

that are listening to this conversation. Please

22:53

can consider joining the Atlanta Business

22:56

League. Please, we need you engaged

22:58

on trying to figure out how to grow

23:00

and scale our companies. The easy

23:02

way to do that is

23:05

to make sure that you're being intentional with how you spend

23:07

your money. But beyond that, what

23:09

other ways can you probably

23:12

know somebody in business? What other ways can you

23:14

be helpful to be helping that company get to scale.

23:17

So I don't look at that

23:19

with sadness. I look at it as responsibility

23:21

and with optimism and joy that I get

23:24

the opportunity to have an opportunity

23:27

to.

23:27

To even to make an impact. And so

23:30

I'm going to do it.

23:31

With your problem.

23:32

A couple of things I want to mention as we close. Take

23:35

your business to the next level? What's that all about?

23:38

So that's a part of our our effort at the Atlanta

23:40

Business League, and it's true to

23:42

name right. It's an effort that businesses

23:45

can can can join with us. And

23:47

where we get laser focused on growth,

23:49

so number programs at a bl

23:53

but again, please consider joining

23:55

and becoming a member of the organization as you

23:57

As you do, you'll see that we host a number

23:59

of programs throughout the year that will help you

24:02

grow and scale your company.

24:03

He is a leader, a natural leader, still

24:06

a young man, and he's a leader

24:08

when I say that, combined collaborating

24:10

business community of over one million

24:12

people. The CEO and co founder

24:14

of the gathering spot located in like

24:17

you said, Atlanta, DC and

24:19

as well as Los Angeles physical location, as

24:22

well as hotspots and places like Chicago

24:24

and Houston. Again, thank you for coming on my show,

24:26

money Making Conversation Masterclass.

24:28

Ryan.

24:28

I appreciate you having me see you soon.

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