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Supercross and more. On everybody as

2:50

promised, let's bring in the local

2:53

for this weekend's Foxboro Supercross and

2:55

then and also my friend the

2:57

voice of Supercross, the voice of

2:59

Motor Cross, the voice of Genesee,

3:01

the voice of quad racing, the

3:03

voice of anything that you're paying,

3:05

he's saying, the chase and wagon,

3:07

what's up, Wege? And

3:09

that's right, if you are at the

3:12

race in Foxborough this weekend, you will

3:14

hear it, because I am once again

3:16

filling in in the lurch, which is

3:18

dubbed the wedge wedge for the weekend,

3:20

and you'll hear me, what'd you say?

3:22

Sound like I'm falling off a cliff?

3:24

That's what you're gonna hear. Oh, that

3:26

was great. The opening of that race

3:28

was fantastic. Yeah, we enjoyed ourselves listening

3:31

to that. It was a lot of

3:33

that. So this weekend is just me

3:35

and Haley and I think I'll do

3:37

better but we'll have to ask the

3:39

next person who can be the expert

3:41

at the end of the night and

3:43

tell me how I did. Well I'm

3:45

not going to be there but honestly

3:48

I'm not going because I heard you

3:50

were going to be the lurch announcer

3:52

and I couldn't take you and Justin

3:54

Brayton saying that's a great point. That's

3:56

a great point, Justin. I couldn't handle

3:58

it anymore. I can't help it. I

4:00

mean, look what he's done for Justin

4:02

Cooper. Look what he did. To get

4:04

us, Cooper, best super cross rider in

4:07

the world now. Unbelievable. All right, speaking

4:09

of Foxboro, speaking of locals, former privateer

4:11

hero, he is an avid player, politics

4:13

fantasy over the years, done really well

4:15

at that. He's kind of doing some

4:17

media stuff now. Travis Del Nikki, Nikki,

4:19

what's up, Travis, how are you man?

4:21

What's going on Steve? Thanks for having

4:23

me. No appreciate it. I appreciate you

4:26

coming on weed. You've been using Del

4:28

Nikki more here on the website Yeah,

4:30

so this is hilarious Del Nikki and

4:32

I met at the main event, which

4:34

is a big rate up at MS

4:36

207 track up there The remember the

4:38

guy of some verb like disappeared for

4:40

a while Steve? They just existed they

4:43

just disappeared. Yeah And then they came

4:45

back on the interim Our friend who

4:47

runs the track came to race or

4:49

X and said Did you guys sponsor

4:51

the race or help promote the race,

4:53

I guess I should say, in the

4:55

way verb did. So we did. We

4:57

kind of sucked out a compare to

4:59

verbs. We weren't very good at it.

5:02

But along the way, this dude, Travis

5:04

says, hey, I need a mechanic. The

5:06

race, A class on Saturday. And I'm

5:08

like, oh, I'm fine. And it was

5:10

a disaster as you would expect. And

5:12

we've been friends ever since. Travis, I

5:14

don't think that what year is that.

5:16

What year is that 10 10 years

5:18

ago? 10 years ago? 10 years ago?

5:21

So yeah, getting close to 10 years

5:23

ago. Yeah, so we kept in touch

5:25

ever since it was the racist, NDMs,

5:27

and eventually we're like, let's rip off

5:29

a band, sort of group text with

5:31

him and his real mechanic, Jack, who

5:33

you also know. And it's been going

5:35

on for about a year, and I'm

5:38

like, uh, Travis, would you say that

5:40

you have as many students as I

5:42

do? Like, I work in the industry.

5:44

I feel like 50% of the time,

5:46

you're like, hey, hey, hey, did you're

5:48

like, did you're like, did you hear

5:50

about the ratio, about the ratio. I

5:52

mean I do feel like I get

5:54

a lot of scoops like sometimes me

5:57

and Jack will tell you something and

5:59

you're like you don't even know about

6:01

it I don't know how I guess

6:03

it's just like trolling on like Twitter

6:05

and just like looking at like all

6:07

the media that's out there. That's really

6:09

the only way that I figure stuff

6:11

out for the most part, but I

6:14

don't know. Yeah, somehow I I'm like

6:16

a insider even though I haven't really

6:18

been on the inside. I don't know

6:20

how we pull that off. I know.

6:22

So eventually I was like, maybe you

6:24

could help. I honestly didn't even know

6:26

what left with your writing. Yeah,

6:29

I still like last year I did

6:32

Loretta's and I'll do pretty much the

6:34

same thing I did this year or

6:36

last year this year. I'm gonna do

6:39

Loretta's and Canadian nationals and that's pretty

6:41

much it. But as far as super

6:43

cost or or AMA nationals and stuff

6:46

like that, I don't know. I just

6:48

can't be as committed as I need

6:50

to be to be any bit competitive

6:53

and I definitely can't raise super cost

6:55

without. leaving for months at a time

6:57

because we have no super cross up

7:00

here at all. So that's kind of

7:02

that's kind of where I went once

7:04

I started draining my bank account I

7:06

was like all I got to kind

7:09

of think of a better way to

7:11

do this where I can still raise

7:13

competitive and not. So you've you've got

7:16

you started a podcast you said you

7:18

got a little podcast doing some race

7:20

or X media work too? Yeah, the

7:23

podcast is rough. I wouldn't even really

7:25

consider it a podcast. We talk about

7:27

like all the NSC races and stuff

7:30

like that. Me and a couple of

7:32

my buddies started a few years ago.

7:34

It's it's loose to say the least,

7:37

but occasionally we will do a good

7:39

episode, but occasionally it's not even worth

7:41

listening to, but yeah, we try. Yeah,

7:44

well, listen, you gotta start somewhere, right?

7:46

So, uh... We're just going to jump

7:48

back on here in a second. But

7:51

what is the state of any SC

7:53

these days? Like how are we looking?

7:55

I know Keith Johnson's doing big things

7:57

itself. obviously it's such a history, it's

8:00

an amazing series up there in the

8:02

Northeast, how is it now? It's tough,

8:04

and actually this is basically what we

8:07

talk about on our podcast is just

8:09

how any SC can be better, where

8:11

we're at, and all this, and yeah,

8:14

any SC is basically the same as

8:16

it has been, and in some ways

8:18

that's good, and some ways it's bad,

8:21

because it hasn't really evolved. I think

8:23

the way that it should, I, you

8:25

know, there's, you can go on and

8:28

on about, you know, why there's not

8:30

a John Dowd or a Doug Henry

8:32

or, or even like a Tony LaRousa

8:35

or, you know, some, you know, some,

8:37

yeah, there's none of that, right? Like,

8:39

yeah, like, what's his face, who's the,

8:42

who's the jadee guy and motocross guy,

8:44

he's still kind of ruling. Yeah, canning

8:46

still the guy, right, right, right, right?

8:48

There's, right, right, right, right, right, coming,

8:51

coming up, coming up, coming up from

8:53

him, right, coming up from him? Yeah,

8:55

he got hurt last year, so he

8:58

actually hasn't been racing. He didn't do

9:00

any NSC last year, but he's back

9:02

this year, just last week, and was

9:05

our, was the opener for NSC, and

9:07

he did win, but he didn't dominate.

9:09

Stepick was there, Tyler Stepick, and James

9:12

Harrington, he's, he will be there this

9:14

weekend at Gillette, and he's probably the...

9:16

are top, like chasing the pro stuff

9:19

guy right now. Yeah, and he's had

9:21

some good rides and whatnot, but I

9:23

think it's just tough like not having

9:26

anybody really doing Super Cross. James is

9:28

gonna do Super Cross, but he's just

9:30

started and he's still. like on a

9:33

little bit of a rough program as

9:35

far as not being it to every

9:37

race but other than that like we

9:39

don't really have anybody that's really chasing

9:42

you know the pro scene And we

9:44

definitely don't have guys scoring points every

9:46

weekend and then showing up to race

9:49

any SC on Sunday like KJ and

9:51

those guys used to do back in

9:53

the day. Yeah, think about the lineage

9:56

from like Finkle Day to Joe Joe

9:58

to Doud and Henry and KJ and

10:00

Treadwell and Barton and La Russo and

10:03

so on and so forth, right? Incredible.

10:05

Yeah. All pretty neat stuff. So you

10:07

live in Connecticut, right? Yeah. and then

10:10

is that how far of a drive

10:12

is to all these places is it

10:14

close or what are we what are

10:17

we talking to like south wick and

10:19

stuff like I don't know I don't

10:21

know I know that Connecticut's right above

10:24

New York but like can you race

10:26

New York also where you're at or

10:28

is it all just you're up northern

10:30

part of that or how does that

10:33

encapsulate all of that states yeah I

10:35

could go in race New York I

10:37

did a couple race New York but

10:40

honestly it's kind of weird like NSC,

10:42

guys stay in NSC. I'm open to

10:44

going wherever, but it is, you know,

10:47

where I'm where I'm at. It's for

10:49

most New York races, it's about the

10:51

shortest distance to in it. A New

10:54

York race would be like the longest

10:56

distance race. So it's still a little

10:58

bit more local for me to go

11:01

to NSC. Right, right. But yeah, we

11:03

don't really have as many guys. come

11:05

to any SC as we used to,

11:08

like from New York, New Jersey or

11:10

whatever. It's kind of like any SC

11:12

guys or any SC guys. So that,

11:15

I kind of get frustrated with that.

11:17

You know, I like to race like

11:19

a wide variety of people, but yeah,

11:21

it's just kind of changed over the

11:24

years. Foxborough this weekend and the race

11:26

was obviously there was one in the

11:28

late 80s and then there was one

11:31

in 90. and then I came back

11:33

in like 2017 and then it was

11:35

on an every other year circuit. How

11:38

do you feel the locals think about

11:40

Foxboro Supercross? Like, is it one of

11:42

those, like, so I'll give you an

11:45

example. I'm from Manitoba, Millville's eight hours

11:47

away. Growing up, everyone went to Millville

11:49

to watch, there was no local races

11:52

on that day. you know, everyone went

11:54

to Millville and then I have noticed

11:56

and I've talked to some buddies and

11:59

stuff that it is not as big

12:01

of a draw anymore to go down

12:03

to Millville. So with Foxborough, is it

12:06

still a huge draw for all of

12:08

your friends and all the families that

12:10

you know to go there or is

12:12

it one of those like eh, whatever?

12:15

Yeah, it's definitely a huge draw. Definitely

12:17

most people will go but at the

12:19

same time. there isn't any SC on

12:22

Sunday so it's not like something where

12:24

everything is showing down because we're going

12:26

to Gillette Supercross you know yeah so

12:29

I think for the most part everybody

12:31

you know most people that would go

12:33

to Southwick will go to Gillette but

12:36

I think it's just a little bit

12:38

different because we just don't have as

12:40

many local guys racing Supercross so yeah

12:43

I think that's a to compare it

12:45

to Southwick national I don't think it's

12:47

it's equal to that but as far

12:50

as will people go for sure yeah

12:52

what's the first Southwick you can remember

12:54

going to as a kid 98 98

12:57

so doubt oh the doubt yeah big

12:59

butter yeah and like how there is

13:01

no social media or anything like I

13:03

was a huge MC guy yep and

13:06

I think that was the first round

13:08

that he missed because of his wrist

13:10

yeah he was leading to points broke

13:13

his wrist and go to it went

13:15

high point and then pulled out yeah

13:17

Yeah, and I didn't know about this.

13:20

So I was like all excited to

13:22

go CMC and then he wasn't there

13:24

and I was come strong. Yeah, tough

13:27

go. Like yeah, you have to recycle

13:29

news or who knows how you find

13:31

out, right? Yeah, I mean, I was

13:34

young at the time. So I probably

13:36

wouldn't have even been able to read

13:38

cycle news, but still I was like

13:41

really bummed. But yeah, I think I've

13:43

been pretty much every year. I missed

13:45

one year. I miss the 2011 ones,

13:48

just because I didn't want to go

13:50

out in a hurricane, but yeah, I've

13:52

been every year, race stuff, yeah. Yep.

13:54

Did you make everyone you race or

13:57

did you sometimes not make? modos? I

13:59

made three out of four. Okay, all

14:01

right, so one year you missed it.

14:04

Yeah, yeah. One year I don't know

14:06

what I was doing out there. I

14:08

always found it funny in talking to

14:11

people up there like obviously Doud and

14:13

Henry are friends but they weren't especially

14:15

that type and they had their own

14:18

clicks and their own posses a little

14:20

bit. You were either a Doud guy

14:22

or a Henry guy. Did you always

14:25

find that to be true? I remember

14:27

they had like that close of a

14:29

connection to either one. I don't, I

14:32

mean, I guess I've probably talked to

14:34

Henry more than I have Doughty. So

14:36

I guess if I had to choose,

14:38

I would be a Henry guy, but

14:41

at the same time, like, for me,

14:43

it's not that strong to divide between

14:45

the two. Right, right. I think when

14:48

they were racing, it was a little

14:50

bit from what I gather. I mean,

14:52

nothing, nothing mean or mean- you know

14:55

they weren't that tight you know yeah

14:57

and they were racing competitors with each

14:59

other right so yeah privateers always doing

15:02

well at that Southwick of course over

15:04

the years and yeah hopefully I mean

15:06

Harrington will you make the night show

15:09

he should make a night show right

15:11

he's good enough for that yeah I

15:13

think I'll make the night show yeah

15:16

he just hasn't had as much prep

15:18

as I think he's needed but they

15:20

he actually just invested in him with

15:23

the help of Jimmy D. They got

15:25

a track built in the area. So

15:27

he's been the last couple weeks. So

15:29

I think he'll be a lot more

15:32

prepared. He did do Daytona, but I

15:34

don't think he either. But yeah, he'll

15:36

make the night show and honestly, he's

15:39

definitely a racer. So if he's comfortable

15:41

on the track, especially if it's wet

15:43

a little bit, like it went me

15:46

to me to see him make me.

15:48

I mean, I mean, He's only done

15:50

two super crosses ever, so I guess

15:53

it would be a surprise, but he

15:55

is raped more so than a qualifier.

15:57

So, but yeah, he's a. is I

16:00

believe that only New England are racing

16:02

besides Russell Boucheri who's racing SMX next

16:04

but yeah as far as Dear 450

16:07

it's where New England only really has

16:09

James to cheer for yeah we we

16:11

we were saying that the locals day

16:14

you know because there's such a great

16:16

history of locals right of doing well

16:18

in Supercross and motorcourses it's down to

16:20

one just Harrington right James Harrington right

16:23

now James Harrington areas go through that

16:25

but I feel like New England has

16:27

been the least up and down through

16:30

the years I mean I understand that

16:32

down in Henry Legends and maybe not

16:34

at that level but I feel like

16:37

you know you go through that New

16:39

Mexico group way back in the day

16:41

and then there's just no one. They're

16:44

like it's rare that there's no one

16:46

or one guy in this case. Can

16:48

you point shoot anything in this instance

16:51

or is the racing scene changing in

16:53

some way that leads to that leads

16:55

to that? I was kind of, I

16:58

touched on this with Steve a little

17:00

bit, that that any S.D. and New

17:02

England tracks and racing, like, has not

17:05

changed. Like, it's the exact same at

17:07

the 90s, probably even before that, that

17:09

I'm not as familiar with, but It

17:11

hasn't changed, the tracks haven't changed and

17:14

I just think that we're kind of

17:16

having involved with the sport and honestly

17:18

that's the only real reason that I

17:21

can see, you know, because Southwick is

17:23

the type of track that's always going

17:25

to be the same and our guys,

17:28

but you go to a high point

17:30

or a buds or a red bud

17:32

and the track prep, the track style

17:35

of track. is a lot different than

17:37

it was 20, 30 years ago and

17:39

our tracks I feel are exactly the

17:42

same. Okay, yeah, interesting for sure. Trevor

17:44

Tell Nikki here, Jason Wiggett on the

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18:05

right, let's talk Supercross series a little

18:07

bit here, or do you want to

18:09

start with Silly season, Weage? What's more

18:12

interesting to you right now? Well, I

18:14

think more interesting to the viewers, listeners,

18:16

always, is Silly season. They love this

18:19

stuff, and we're just getting warmed up

18:21

now. We got some, probably, probably, a

18:23

month ago there was nothing, and now

18:26

we definitely have something. Yeah, the Jason

18:28

Anderson News hit too as well and

18:30

he's out for the rest of Supercross

18:33

and I was saying this on the

18:35

Fly Moto 60 show. Del Nikki, what

18:37

a disaster of a Supercar season for

18:40

Kawasaki. Three-third places for Anderson out of

18:42

10 races, let's say, 11 races and

18:44

two races out of O'Hare Prado and

18:47

wow, disaster. Yeah, it's not been what

18:49

they expected at all. I actually just

18:51

wrote in one of the articles that

18:53

I did last week. after Birmingham like

18:56

where he struggled there got taken out

18:58

a couple of times like how the

19:00

seasons kind of falling apart and now

19:03

with all this stuff I kind of

19:05

feel bad because there was actually something

19:07

wrong. Yeah we thought Anderson have some

19:10

epic fades like Daytona was brutal he

19:12

was in the mix and there's drop

19:14

back so now it kind of makes

19:17

a little bit of sense that he's

19:19

dealing with something and obviously the whatever's

19:21

going on with the family issue so

19:24

Yeah, he's obviously not been 100% it

19:26

showed because I don't really look at

19:28

Andrew's like a guy who fades or

19:31

who kind of like just lays over

19:33

you know and that's kind of what

19:35

we've seen. Yeah it's definitely been rough

19:38

like we all know the Sexton is

19:40

talking to Cowie and that could happen

19:42

when you look at their season and

19:44

next year being Prado's learning year again

19:47

now you almost wonder if someone like

19:49

monster who, let's be honest, have, you

19:51

know, a lot of say and things

19:54

like that. You almost wonder if someone

19:56

like Monster is telling Kawasaki like... Just

19:58

make it happen, man. Just make it

20:01

happen. Your program's not been working. Anderson,

20:03

two years ago, Anderson, end of the

20:05

year, you know, seven wins or whatever,

20:08

but you almost wonder if the sexton

20:10

thing will be pushed even more so

20:12

for Cowie to do it, Weech. I

20:15

always think, to be honest with you,

20:17

we pushed even more so for Cowie

20:19

to do it, Weech. I always think,

20:22

to be honest, to be honest, energy

20:24

drinking, right? a ripple, uh, do you

20:26

know it's the Troy Lee designs Ducati

20:29

team and they sell gear? And he's

20:31

a lifetime Fox guy. And everyone I

20:33

said that to was like, pro, I

20:35

never even thought of that. Now, I

20:38

heard they could iron that out and

20:40

I think Troy Lee himself is cool

20:42

enough to be like, I'll let him

20:45

wear Fox gear. For whatever reason, there

20:47

are always obvious ties that people miss

20:49

and everybody goes straight to the energy

20:52

drink every time. Now that's a long

20:54

way to get to get to your

20:56

answer here, which is But I heard

20:59

most of the time energy drinks are

21:01

like, bro, we gave you a ton

21:03

of money. We expect you to win.

21:06

We're not going to give you more

21:08

money to win with. I think this

21:10

is just, we have not won a

21:13

450 race since I think 2022. All

21:15

these corporations have the money. It's just

21:17

where do they want to spend it?

21:20

Where do they want to put it?

21:22

They could spend it on ships, boats,

21:24

motorcycles, cars, cars, whatever. I think they've

21:26

just decided. This is too good an

21:29

opportunity. A guy like this is illable.

21:31

It hasn't been working. We will open

21:33

up the war chest this time or

21:36

maybe we weren't willing to two years

21:38

ago and maybe we won't be willing

21:40

to two years from now. But it's

21:43

just too good a chance and the

21:45

result is too bad. I don't think

21:47

it's too bad. I don't think it's

21:50

a monster thing. I think these are

21:52

huge companies that can spend it in

21:54

300 ways. Tell us. Behind the scenes,

21:57

hey, they want this guy, they don't

21:59

want this guy, they told, they told...

22:01

this manager that like that's happened we

22:04

you've been in these group tests it

22:06

has happened i mean straight up we

22:08

could tell everybody like i believe rock

22:11

tickle the forgotten hm here that it

22:13

gets suspended but i believe that was

22:15

a redball one of them on the

22:17

team more than other guys yeah the

22:20

barsha who was really not barsha had

22:22

a horrible rep at that time now

22:24

he's pretty lovable but anyway yeah it

22:27

happens but i don't think they All

22:29

the time or as much as people

22:31

think. Right. Yeah. I think Maui is

22:34

tired of not winning. They haven't won

22:36

a 450 race in three years. Historically,

22:38

Kaui is always pretty good. They're never

22:41

terrible. And this is borderline terrible at

22:43

this point. Wait, 23 was Anderson's year

22:45

when you went to run? No, 22?

22:48

Was that 22? So, yeah. All of

22:50

23, all of 24 and all of

22:52

25. Yes. So I just think they're

22:55

the, okay, we got to swing to

22:57

the fences here moment. Yeah. And then

22:59

when you look at their lineage before

23:02

that with Tomak and R.V. and Ricky

23:04

and James, right? Like yes, yes. They

23:06

don't have dry spells, usually. No, no.

23:08

I don't know. I still think he

23:11

kind of stays the K.T.M. I'd said

23:13

the Kawasaki thing beginning of the year,

23:15

but I didn't think he would hire,

23:18

he would, he would, he would, he

23:20

would iron out the K. I earn

23:22

out the K. The K. The K.

23:25

The K. The K. The K. I'm

23:28

50 on this, but I

23:30

don't know. I, he's obviously

23:33

better on this year than

23:35

he was last year, like

23:37

by quite a margin, but

23:39

I still don't know if,

23:41

like, just watching him, I

23:44

don't see some of the

23:46

stuff that Honda Honda, and

23:48

maybe he's just like, yeah,

23:50

we... They've given, KTM's given

23:52

him everything that they possibly

23:55

can and he's still. not

23:57

kind of feeling it. So

23:59

I don't know. Maybe the

24:01

change would be good, but

24:03

also changing teams again is

24:06

it's up with that. So

24:08

I don't know what I

24:10

think he should do is

24:12

I don't know. I kind

24:14

of think he should go to

24:17

cow. Honestly. But I don't know.

24:19

It's really tough to say. Yeah.

24:21

Because he is so much better

24:24

this year. You know. Yeah. Yeah.

24:26

Absolutely. I agree. What do you

24:28

think he does. I know. Uh, I

24:30

think a huge factor that we cannot

24:32

figure out right now is, Jake Sam

24:34

has told us over and over, we're

24:36

good. Monotarily, we're good. We're fine. I

24:39

think you and I have heard that

24:41

even the offer they've given him is

24:43

20. It's not like they're like, hey,

24:45

you got to take a pay cut. We're

24:47

running out of cash. But I'd

24:50

still don't get free. But you probably

24:52

want a two or three-year deal

24:54

that you probably need to,

24:56

or three-free your deal. But are

24:58

we good, good, like forever? Like,

25:00

that was a scary moment.

25:02

And Cali, there's no worries

25:04

whatsoever. So I think before that

25:06

gets figured, really can't guess

25:08

where it's going to go. But I'm

25:11

kind of a Travis, I can see

25:13

the Cali thing for a variety of

25:15

reasons. Now, here's the next level

25:17

of speed. If he were to go to

25:19

Kanoi, that's a huge if. I don't

25:22

know if that's a perfect fit. I think

25:24

it's going to require some changes

25:26

on his end. That's just not

25:28

cow for better or for worse. I

25:31

think it's actually better than most

25:33

people realize, but that's big

25:35

change. Yeah, I do like the fact

25:37

that there's some revisionist history with

25:39

RV a little bit talking about

25:41

how he could do these things to the

25:44

bike that he wanted, but then I'm like,

25:46

yeah, but you won four straight Supercross titles

25:48

and then you won. So seems to me

25:50

things were working out, but I don't agree.

25:53

I don't think the rider will ever ever

25:55

ever agree. I hear this all the time

25:57

Steve and we've talked about this in our

25:59

review. don't they just give the riders what

26:02

they want? And I think the teams are

26:04

like, yeah, sometimes the riders what they

26:06

want doesn't actually work. They're not

26:08

engineers. Right. We and the problem.

26:10

Sometimes we're smarter than them. I

26:12

know that sounds horrific, but it's true.

26:14

Yeah. No, I agree. And then I do

26:16

know for a fact that Anderson is talking

26:18

to some other teams, so that leads me

26:21

to think that, you know, the sexton thing

26:23

is closer to happening than not. you know,

26:25

so there is that going on. And then

26:27

if Sexton does that, then who does KTM

26:29

get? Ian Harrison was pretty open with me

26:31

in the interview saying like all the

26:33

other guys are second rate or something, whatever

26:35

the term he used. I was like, oh

26:38

shit. But I mean, he means that in

26:40

this point that there's nobody to challenge Jet

26:42

Lawrence other than Chase Sexton, you know. So

26:44

KTM would have to take a little bit

26:46

of a step back. I think they pick up Justin

26:49

Cooper or they pick up Anderson or whatever, you

26:51

know, you know, you know, you know, you know,

26:53

you know, so. What? Is there any chest?

26:55

Homeaca ends up having a phillip. What? a

27:01

tough

27:03

one.

27:07

It's

27:12

just

27:17

Travis.

27:21

Can you even picture Tomak not

27:24

riding the Yamaha now? Doesn't it

27:26

even seem strange to even think

27:28

about that, don't you? Yeah, I think it

27:30

would be a smart move. I don't think

27:33

it would work out. So, but the way

27:35

that he was riding early in the

27:37

season, like, I really think it was

27:39

as good as maybe we've ever seen

27:41

him. And yeah, he doesn't have many

27:43

results the last couple years, but

27:45

I just don't see how they can

27:48

look at him on the bike. San Diego

27:50

and just what he did

27:52

early in the season and just

27:54

be like, yeah, man, we just

27:56

can't do it. So I don't

27:58

think he should. and I think

28:00

Star should do anything they can to

28:03

keep him because I still think on

28:05

that bike he can win against them.

28:07

Well they definitely I would think if

28:09

you're Star you're like hey we've got

28:12

the Trump car we got a cable

28:14

clutch and he's not going to want

28:16

to go to triumph and breaking a

28:18

new bike and he's not going to

28:21

go to the cottie and breaking a

28:23

new bike and he's not going back

28:25

to Cowi and so I don't know

28:27

I kind of think the... If you're

28:30

Yamaha, you use that option, Del Nikki,

28:32

of knowing that you are the place

28:34

that he kind of wants to go

28:36

to. Yeah. Obviously, Eli's home, he's not

28:39

going to ride for free, but when

28:41

you look, they kind of just have

28:43

to pull out the results sheet and

28:45

be like, look, man, you haven't given

28:48

us a ton of results for the

28:50

last couple of years and we have

28:52

your cable clutch and nobody else does.

28:54

And yeah, I mean, they do have

28:57

some leverage that way. And honestly, just...

28:59

himself I think he needs to kind

29:01

of think about does he think he

29:03

can be on that same level anywhere

29:06

else too because I don't I don't

29:08

see it not this late in his

29:10

his career. It's fascinating we should see

29:12

what he does I'm interested like I

29:15

really don't know I get all sides

29:17

I get Yamaha's side I get Eli's

29:19

side you know I don't know what's

29:21

gonna happen it's great. I am the

29:24

guy that just said that you know

29:26

they can always break open to corporate

29:28

war chess but having to pay Webb

29:30

deacon and tongue in a new deal

29:33

coming I would think and Tomak doesn't

29:35

want to ride for anything less than

29:37

hey I proved I'm the best rider

29:39

right now because San Diego proved it

29:41

I mean that's the kind of money

29:44

I would assume he wants and Webb

29:46

is literally the super cross points leader

29:48

I think that might be more than

29:50

any more chess can cover and I

29:53

guess that's probably the issue it's not

29:55

a back to them saying like we

29:57

don't think you're good anymore although you're

29:59

right Travis they could on a negotiating

30:02

table point to the results are there,

30:04

but that's just what you do. be

30:06

weird, you work for these teams. It's

30:08

got to be so weird for you

30:11

to be their guy on the weekend

30:13

and we're giving you everything we have

30:15

and we're in this together. But oh

30:17

by the way there will be a

30:20

meeting later in the week where we're

30:22

actually telling you that we don't think

30:24

you have as much value as you

30:26

think. It's got to be so weird.

30:29

Yeah, yeah, especially you know when you're

30:31

an all-timer like Eli Tomak, right? But

30:33

I mean McGrath tells the story of

30:35

you know going into Yamaha to renegotiate

30:38

is 2003 deal and Keith McCarty was

30:40

like we don't think you can win

30:42

anymore and he's off the KPM, right?

30:44

Like there are those those moments in

30:47

time. Now McGrath's O2 season was way

30:49

worse than Tomak's 2025 season, you know,

30:51

so yeah, Tomak's proven it, but at

30:53

the end of the day, like if

30:56

you're an alcohol, you could say you

30:58

got us one win and you got

31:00

hurt and you got hurt the year

31:02

before. You know, yeah, I mean, it's

31:05

tough business. It's not wrong. They're not

31:07

wrong. They're right. You know, there's no

31:09

way that Eli and John gave back

31:11

the money, you know, because he was

31:14

out with injury. So, you know, so

31:16

you kind of get it a little

31:18

bit. Yeah, that's what makes this so

31:20

intriguing. There's just so few places to

31:22

go because I just, I think that's

31:25

the point you're making, like, Tomak. Maybe

31:27

we need to reconsider. But two, like,

31:29

you're, tell that school is going to

31:31

win the title. Like, they're going to

31:34

be ready to win that I don't

31:36

have one next year. That's, that's a

31:38

big risk. Yeah, risky for, for, Eli

31:40

and for the teams. Yeah. I mean,

31:43

Steve, everything we've heard about a triumph

31:45

is slow, slow, slow build, right? Yeah,

31:47

I mean, I had someone there in

31:49

the higher ups, tell me, we're not,

31:52

they specifically said, we're not ready for

31:54

Eli and John. Yeah, but

31:56

I think it does get that

31:58

big. I would not be I'm

32:00

not saying it's you said this

32:02

could be the opportunity to fall

32:04

right under his lap. This is

32:06

one in a million that this

32:08

could this could work out for

32:10

us. And I don't think this

32:12

direction they want to go but

32:14

a guy like he let's home

32:16

that's not available. Yeah I mean

32:18

triumph has money so they not

32:20

only don't have the money you

32:22

know and like you said this

32:24

could be the opportunity to fall

32:26

right under his lap. Right. So.

32:28

Wild. Wild to think about. Yeah,

32:30

it's really absolutely crazy. A bit

32:32

of silly seas of stuff going

32:34

on right now, and then you

32:37

have Aaron Plessinger up and Justin

32:39

Cooper up and Roxen up and

32:41

Anderson up and yeah, we're gonna

32:43

get some we are gonna get

32:45

some shifting around For sure Yeah,

32:47

that's that's kind of what makes

32:49

it exciting. I don't know. Maybe

32:51

maybe people secretly almost how we

32:53

deal just have the intrigue of

32:55

it all. Mm-hmm, because it really

32:57

Not only is that me he's

32:59

on a new bike and team

33:01

and how is I gonna go

33:03

but then it means somebody else

33:05

has got a move Anderson's got

33:07

to move somebody's got to go

33:09

pick him Steve do you think

33:11

there's any chance Kay Chan is

33:13

like man? Way to save some

33:15

money we're just going to go

33:17

racing with the Vial and Lessigur.

33:19

And just punks a little bit.

33:21

Wow the Kunins are the wild

33:23

card right they want to come

33:25

over so yeah got to find

33:27

spots for them if that is

33:29

going to be a disaster. But,

33:31

um, I don't know. Um, we'll,

33:33

we'll see. Don't Nicky here, he

33:35

got, well, he's also the only

33:37

guy I know that actually, Steve,

33:39

do you know what he pays

33:41

for JT's patron to listen to

33:43

JT's boss? Del Nicki does? Travis,

33:45

really? Yeah, yeah, five, five dollars

33:47

a month. Listen to JT's talk

33:49

for 20 minutes before the race

33:51

on Saturday. I wouldn't, I wouldn't,

33:53

I wouldn't listen to that guy

33:55

talk for anything, talk for anything.

33:57

Yeah, yeah, I'm sick of it

33:59

as it as it as it

34:01

as it as it as it

34:03

as it is, so. Honestly, the

34:05

only reason I got that was

34:07

when I was leading the Pope

34:09

fantasy. I was like, I cannot

34:11

miss out on any single detail

34:13

of anything going on. I need

34:15

this. Yeah, yeah. It's a good

34:17

point. Well, listen, it got you

34:19

a bike. So, yeah, it did.

34:21

You know, you did win a

34:23

bike in pulp fantasy. That's awesome.

34:25

But, I mean, I think, Travis,

34:27

if you're KTM, we all know,

34:29

Vial has to move up if

34:31

he wins. You've got to wait

34:33

and see what happens, because that's

34:35

kind of your guy. But as

34:37

far as like. The out being

34:39

a KTM's top 450 guy, I

34:41

have no idea how it's going

34:43

to go like that the video

34:45

he posted on him on a

34:47

450 is Probably the first time

34:49

I've ever seen him ride a

34:51

450. So it's really hard to

34:53

say but I mean he seems

34:55

pretty Keen on winning the champions

34:57

worried about that so but yeah,

34:59

that's It's KTM's in a tough

35:01

spot with maybe with the chase

35:03

with the financials with the the

35:05

out maybe moving up like there's

35:07

so many moving pieces for them

35:09

they're they're kind of in a

35:11

weird spot the one thing speaking

35:13

a silly season though the one

35:15

thing weige I have not heard

35:17

and he's told people that there's

35:20

nothing going on is it seems

35:22

like Barcelona's moving on I did

35:24

not know that I mean I

35:26

guess I'm just looking at the

35:28

results I'll give a shout out

35:30

to this guy Chad Reed who

35:32

was on R.C.'s podcast the other

35:34

day. Hold on, I got a

35:36

wave. The great Justin Brayden's walking

35:38

by here in the airport. Totally

35:40

agree with him. Totally agree with

35:42

him. Great point. Jamie. Sounds like,

35:44

hey, you know, I'm disappointing with

35:46

Marsha? He's riding with Plesiger and

35:48

Malcolm all the time. Everybody thought,

35:50

oh, he goes, all the baker,

35:52

he's gonna step up. He's definitely

35:54

been the third guy out of

35:56

those three. Yeah, yeah. And there

35:58

hasn't been a... Somebody asked him

36:00

about contract talks. He's like there

36:02

have been none. We know the

36:04

financial stuff that Travis you just

36:06

pointed out like it's easy to

36:08

see. see them folding gas gas

36:10

and putting everybody on a husk

36:12

of honor or vice versa and

36:14

keeping Malcolm and keeping RJ you

36:16

know so I mean that's easy

36:18

to see like they have been

36:20

big going big for a long

36:22

time now if I'm Ian Harrison

36:24

Del Nikki are you you're secretly

36:26

hoping Vial doesn't win right yeah

36:28

100% yeah It's instead of him,

36:30

so you went either way. Yeah,

36:32

yeah. I had even thought of

36:34

that angle of like, well, the

36:36

other guy that could win, Hemaker's

36:38

still in it, mathematically, but like,

36:40

yeah, if they can draw it

36:42

up, make it be RJ who's

36:44

moving up anyway. RJ is moving

36:46

up anyways, then they got to

36:48

resign VL for more money, full

36:50

time 450 router. He may not

36:52

be ready for it, he's gonna

36:54

make a bunch of money, and

36:56

you're just like, oh no. So,

36:58

so. You know, yeah, it's a

37:00

lot, there's a lot going on

37:02

behind the scenes. Yeah, because even

37:04

if they take Sexton back, which

37:06

they want Sexton back, now they've

37:08

got a free rider for 15,

37:10

and they've got a probably higher

37:12

replacement for Vial, which would probably

37:14

be kittens, which is not going

37:16

to be cheap, and they're probably

37:18

like, great. We just stepped into

37:20

having to spend more money. Yeah.

37:22

I'm not sure that the Husking

37:24

and Gas Gas program that we've

37:26

known is going to be the

37:28

same three years from now five

37:30

or even next year, you know.

37:32

Yeah, no, I agree. I think

37:34

there's, you've got to look at,

37:36

like, I mean, it's just fiscally

37:38

prudent of them to make some

37:40

sort of cuts somewhere, right? Right.

37:42

So you can keep assessing, but

37:44

maybe the barches part is just

37:46

gone. And then I think too,

37:48

if you're going into sex and

37:50

staying or staying, you're worried about

37:52

bike development, like, like, like, I

37:54

heard the next year's bikes are

37:56

the same for obvious reasons and

37:58

the bikes good don't get me

38:01

wrong but are you worried about

38:03

like hey two years from now

38:05

is there new come in? How

38:07

much money are we spending on

38:09

R&D? All that, you know? So,

38:11

I mean, that's a fair point.

38:13

That's what I mean. You need

38:15

some clear, some real assurances that

38:17

it's not going to be different.

38:19

I don't believe his day-to-day has

38:21

been affected by this financial thing

38:23

at all. King is operating as

38:25

always. But you need some real

38:27

assurances that the next two years

38:29

will not change. Which would be

38:31

tough? I think Jay Coop is

38:33

the next guy to get after

38:35

that. When you look at AP

38:37

and Malcolm and Jay Coop, yes,

38:39

Jay Coop doesn't really sell, doesn't

38:41

scream like personality and social media

38:43

following, but I mean, you're just

38:45

trying to win races and I

38:47

think Jay Coop's the next one,

38:49

but what do you think? Tell

38:51

Nikki. Yeah, I actually totally agree.

38:53

I think Jay Coop really doesn't

38:55

get the respect that he deserves.

38:57

Like, there's not a lot of

38:59

guys who can go out there.

39:01

be in the mix to when

39:03

he races or whatever, but just

39:05

that type of speed like, you

39:07

know, a guy like AP, I

39:09

mean, Malcolm can I guess a

39:11

little bit, I want to race,

39:13

but like guys on that level

39:15

don't often show that speed in

39:17

J coop, honestly shows that speed

39:19

almost every weekend. So yeah, he

39:21

hasn't maybe has many podiums or

39:23

whatever to Like, fill the spot

39:25

of a chase section, but at

39:27

the same time, like, the potential's

39:29

there. I honestly, maybe even one

39:31

last weekend, but he was a

39:33

little bit timid about passing coop,

39:35

you know, because with the championship

39:37

and everything, but yeah, I think

39:39

Jacob has the highest potential ceiling

39:41

for sure. We, do you, do

39:43

you hire J coop for results,

39:45

or do you hire AP slash

39:47

Malcolm for social stuff and little

39:49

less results? They're a lot older

39:51

than J coop as well? Yeah,

39:54

this is weird. I'm gonna go

39:56

against what I always say. I've

39:59

just like I'm disagree with people

40:01

on the energy drink thing. I

40:03

also say that teams, they just

40:05

go for results almost always. I've

40:07

talked to so many people through

40:09

the years where they'll have a

40:11

super worker and they're like, oh

40:13

yeah, we don't care about that.

40:15

The all-time being, they go to

40:18

a team saying like, yeah, Kevin

40:20

Wyndham keeps getting a ride because

40:22

he win. And I'm like, yeah,

40:24

but he's Kevin Wyndon. They're like,

40:26

it's all about the result. This

40:28

might be the one time where

40:30

I'm going to go against that

40:32

theory and say, yeah, I don't

40:34

know. I almost feel like it's

40:37

at best a quite, I mean,

40:39

look, right now, Plusiger and Malcolm

40:41

are better than him right now.

40:43

Now, you're banking on his second

40:45

year and he's going to keep

40:47

improving. You're bank on him being

40:49

able to eclipse them, but I

40:51

just think, as you already have

40:53

them, you've already worked with them,

40:56

you've already worked with them, I

40:58

think they like them. to say

41:00

it's worth throwing that all the

41:02

way for the least marketable 450

41:04

guy of all on the hope

41:06

that he's gonna even know the

41:08

guarantee he's gonna be better results

41:10

wise anyway. Don't you do hear

41:12

that? I mean I know you're

41:14

from Connecticut but those are fighting

41:17

words least marketable 450 right now.

41:19

I don't know about that. Well

41:21

I'm just saying compared to the

41:23

guys we're talking about here. I

41:25

don't know about you know bubble

41:27

LC you guys. But compared to,

41:29

compared to Barcelona. Blessinger. The free

41:31

agents we're talking about. Just compare

41:33

them to those guys. Well, Weage,

41:36

right now, he's one point back

41:38

on Malcolm for fourth. So he's

41:40

got more points in Anderson, more

41:42

points in AP, one point back

41:44

on Malcolm, you know, started off

41:46

rough, but it's been better lately.

41:48

Yeah, you're banking on the improvement.

41:50

And look, he's working with the

41:52

great Justin Brack. You know, that's

41:55

a major, major, maybe that's what

41:57

it is. You have to put

41:59

in the put in the deal,

42:01

you have to keep talking to

42:03

keep talking to break. Then this

42:05

guy's the limit. Honestly, I've had

42:07

enough of this. Had enough of

42:09

a brain. A.P. are too well

42:11

loved and they'll just keep it.

42:14

I mean, A.P. is legitimately a

42:16

huge fan following, a legitimate, not,

42:18

not like in pockets, not like,

42:20

oh, hey, this is a, we're

42:22

at an A.P. area. A.P. is

42:24

America. That's his pocket. Like, yeah,

42:26

I don't see enough of a

42:28

payoff. Yeah, I mean, since

42:31

he's turned his season around, yeah,

42:33

I mean, it's tough to argue

42:35

with you, honestly, on that because,

42:37

yeah, Jacob has some speed, but

42:39

actually, Plusinger has more podiums, and

42:42

he's one race, and obviously, yeah,

42:44

like you said, he's America. So,

42:46

but it's tough. I guess Jay

42:48

Coop needs to prove a little

42:50

bit more consistently that he can

42:53

be better than AP, and then

42:55

I guess. I don't know. Me

42:57

personally, I would go Jaycoop just

42:59

because I think the ceilings there,

43:01

but yeah, I get it from

43:03

Markability and all that stuff. The

43:06

last time Jaycoop was on the

43:08

pulp show, Phil was in and

43:10

Phil's just like, why don't you

43:12

do a vlog? Show people your

43:14

personality more. That's great. I mean,

43:17

I just either have it or

43:19

you don't, I think. I don't

43:21

know. Like, to me, you can't

43:23

be fake, you know? You're either

43:25

an outgoinging guy and you know?

43:29

I'm here for his cowboy act.

43:31

That would go hard. Yeah, yeah,

43:33

I love it. That'd be fantastic.

43:35

The one thing about AP, like

43:37

I always, we make jokes about

43:39

cowboys because he's from Ohio and

43:42

he's a cowboy. But like, he

43:44

is a real genuine guy. So

43:46

I'm here for his cowboy act,

43:48

you know. If I usual get

43:50

my tuning up. from him, because

43:52

I'll be, you know, at a

43:54

supercross time zones, whatever. So yeah,

43:56

I don't know how many fans

43:58

are familiar with this, like, probably

44:00

Alslomer, Lewis Brothers' agent. I mean,

44:02

the Seas were planted up. He

44:05

had the next Lewis Brothers, brothers,

44:07

those of the kids. There's been

44:09

this plan in the works for

44:11

years. I don't need to know

44:13

if the American fans know about

44:15

these teenagers or Belgium. Was he's

44:17

the guy? bought a wool pad

44:19

for them to practice on. Myrtle

44:21

did. And according to court documents,

44:23

Myrtle, bottom of Motor Home, with

44:25

Lawrence and Mother. So yeah, these

44:28

guys are coming. And Sasha's pretty,

44:30

Sasha's younger, I'm sorry, smaller, and

44:32

a little younger, I think, and

44:34

a little younger, I think. He's

44:36

the younger twin. Right. So they're

44:38

twins, but he's younger. No, I

44:40

know. He's smaller. I don't quite

44:42

know how to say it. Yes,

44:44

he's like up. Yes. not quite

44:46

developed I guess than Lucas but

44:48

yeah there I mean Lucas Koonin

44:51

is you know he's awesome he's

44:53

great he's one one at every

44:55

level so I'm with you though

44:57

Sasha in France had two horrific

44:59

crashes del Nikki right like and

45:01

that's what he does it was

45:03

unbelievable like how he even got

45:05

up like absolute yard sale two

45:07

days in a row I mean

45:09

and it's happens quite often. Honestly,

45:11

he's, he's, I mean, both of

45:14

them though, they're, they just send

45:16

it. Honestly, they're not scared and

45:18

they want to win, but God,

45:20

Sasha has had some massive crashes.

45:22

Yeah. So I don't know how

45:24

while the Super Cross adaption is

45:26

going to go. There's some people

45:28

over there that are like, it's

45:30

going to be a disaster. But

45:32

I mean, you know, other guys

45:34

come here, they've learned it, you

45:37

know. people have learned super cost

45:39

if they've adapted maybe they're not

45:41

be super cross champions but i

45:43

mean they've gotten certainly great results

45:45

in super cost i mean vial

45:47

is one of them right vial

45:49

didn't grow up racing Supercoss and

45:51

he's a East Coast champion. Now

45:53

the French. I think they might

45:55

only be 18 still. Yeah, or

45:57

something like that. Yeah, that'll, that's

46:00

gonna be really interesting. Yeah. Who's

46:02

24 of us now. This is

46:04

all big difference. Yeah. But anyway,

46:06

it's a it's a factor in

46:08

these silly season things that many

46:10

people probably don't even know about.

46:12

And the dad is just nuts.

46:14

Just nuts. So welcome to that

46:16

too. And I was like, you

46:18

know what, why did I even

46:20

assume he wasn't? Do you have

46:23

two? Look, Daisy and Lawrence, everything

46:25

we've seen seems like a pretty

46:27

normal guy. But, um, did they

46:29

think you have two sons that

46:31

are really good? Probably the odds

46:33

of a dad not being crazy

46:35

are pretty low. Yeah. Yeah, we

46:37

had rassmus, the Neston Huskavarna team

46:39

manager on a couple weeks on

46:41

pulp show. We interviewed him and

46:43

I asked him about the dad

46:45

and dude, he, he, he, you

46:48

probably, you probably, you, you, you,

46:50

you, you, you, you, you, you,

46:52

you, you, you, you, you probably.

46:54

Yeah, I mean, I honestly don't

46:56

have too much of a background

46:58

on that, but yeah, it seems

47:00

like that could also maybe be

47:02

something that is delaying the pawn

47:04

thing. I'm not 100% sure on

47:06

that, but it seems like that

47:08

could be a factor in what's

47:11

kind of why there's so much

47:13

uncertainty on that situation. I would

47:15

roll it out. I would not

47:17

roll it out. Yeah, it's happened

47:19

many times before. And I'm going

47:21

to go to that level. I'm

47:23

going to say it right here,

47:25

Steve. I'm not saying he's psycho,

47:27

but I'm saying there's differences in

47:29

the way Cowie does things and

47:31

others. I just can't picture Howie

47:34

saying cure sex and you're the

47:36

practice who got it. Maybe they

47:38

will. But I just feel like

47:40

Cowie's not the type of team

47:42

that operates that way and that's

47:44

not even specifically that cure, I

47:46

just feel like they don't do

47:48

that. John worked for Eli. You

47:50

know, John at the house, worked

47:52

for your... I guess he's the

47:54

bracket mechanic? Yeah, I guess he

47:57

was. Yeah, kind of. Kind of.

47:59

Yeah, that's a good point, actually.

48:01

But yeah, I mean, look, I

48:03

think if you're, if you're chase,

48:05

you hold all the cards. So

48:07

you say my dad's my mechanic,

48:09

this guy's my race mechanic, here's

48:11

what I, here's where I'm gonna

48:13

ride during the week at Sandbox,

48:15

here's what I'm, you know, all

48:17

of that stuff, right? So, um,

48:20

the one thing. I guess we

48:22

do that big, this, like, this,

48:24

like, Tomach. due to some bike

48:26

issues and some crashes you can't

48:28

ride at sandbox anymore like too

48:30

much stuff is getting out too

48:32

many people are hearing these scenes

48:34

because it's a it's a public

48:36

facility and they made him go

48:38

to Baker's factory where he's not

48:40

on the Baker program but he

48:43

does his own thing so Kaui

48:45

is kind of in that realm

48:47

of kt-m a little bit so

48:49

be interested to see if kaui

48:51

if he goes there is okay

48:53

with the practicing at the sandbox

48:55

with cheers and rocks and rocks

48:57

in and you know probably but

48:59

leave it. Yeah, good point. Yeah,

49:01

he would booth Levi. Yeah, so

49:03

wait. He just got to stumble.

49:06

We just stumbled on something Okay,

49:08

now Levi's not gonna win a

49:10

super cost title this year. So

49:12

who knows Steve? He could make

49:14

your day and he could be

49:16

in the 250 super cost class

49:18

for five more years. Maybe and

49:20

I know you'll be super something

49:22

But I'm sure if you're a

49:24

kitchen last year when he started

49:26

to win. He's probably they get

49:29

like Yeah, this will probably all

49:31

work out. I'll just be a

49:33

cowie 450 450 Yeah, you're right.

49:35

You're right. Yeah, now you would

49:37

think you could have stayed two

49:39

fifties for three four more years

49:41

Yeah, why not go ahead go

49:43

ahead? You know Why would you

49:45

ever want to leave you get

49:47

a national number? You get almost

49:49

as much money You get half

49:52

the Supercross season off You get

49:54

treated like a god. You know,

49:56

why not del Nikki? Why would

49:58

you ever want to leave that

50:00

class? Yeah Squeeze him a winner

50:02

too. You probably end up making

50:04

more honestly. Oh, yeah, this place

50:06

so oh, yeah No, absolutely man.

50:08

I'm telling you it's it's something's

50:10

wrong with our sport, but no

50:12

one seems to care about me

50:14

just me. Everyone else just just

50:17

accepts it, but it's it's ridiculous.

50:19

So what form of motor racing

50:21

or stick-and-ball sport does the minor

50:23

league class benefit you to stay

50:25

there as much as our sport?

50:27

There's just nothing. Nothing whether it's

50:29

motto two, motto one, indie car

50:31

lights. What's the what's the the

50:33

NASCAR one? Yeah, dude. You're trying

50:35

to get out of there. You're

50:37

trying to get out of there.

50:40

Not in our sport. I don't

50:42

want to get out of there.

50:44

I don't want to get out

50:46

of here. I don't ever want

50:48

to get out here. This is

50:50

amazing. I take it back. Pitch

50:52

is in an awesome spot, actually.

50:54

Is it a great spot? Yeah,

50:56

awesome. All right, anything else for

50:58

this? Fly racing Racorex podcast. You

51:00

want to touch him? being the

51:03

250 classic couple more years and

51:05

then Prado's deal would be up

51:07

and then depending on what Prado

51:09

does there there you know if

51:11

I could see that happening but

51:13

yeah I had not calculated the

51:15

oh wait this could be three

51:17

four more years from yeah I

51:19

forgot how this game is usually

51:21

played if you don't win titles

51:23

you're gonna be hanging out So

51:26

maybe the door is not completely

51:28

shut down? No, maybe not. This

51:30

could work out. It could be

51:32

three years or no. Yeah, I

51:34

mean, why not? Yeah, I think

51:36

he is my, I just obsessed

51:38

fan. He's willing to work on

51:40

Saturday morning or Sunday morning, Saturday

51:42

morning, Saturday, Saturday, night. So that's

51:44

why you see his name on

51:46

the site every once in a

51:49

while. I didn't even know you

51:51

could write that well. I just

51:53

knew you had scoops. Your stuff

51:55

takes way less editing as these.

51:57

That is bullshit. That is complete,

51:59

complete bullshit. Absolutely. Fake news. Look

52:01

at him? Yep. My editing this

52:03

week was nothing. I didn't even

52:05

submit a column. We had a

52:07

gopher problem. Gary, the gopher. Well,

52:09

then you did send something in

52:12

after the gopher problem. And Earl

52:14

B. Stella, who works on Thursdays,

52:16

had to edit. I was like,

52:18

welcome back. Yep, there you go.

52:20

Obbs this week. Yeah, I did

52:22

actually, I have gotten burned in

52:24

the comments on one thing. Oh.

52:26

Yeah. Welcome to the big time.

52:28

I wrote, I mentioned metal militia.

52:30

And I accidentally. like the militia

52:32

I felt it like actually how

52:35

it's spelled and I got well

52:37

I apologize technically that should be

52:39

on the editors and yeah and

52:41

you I don't know how do

52:43

we oh man that's terrible I

52:45

really our facts are sophisticated it

52:47

are not the author but oh

52:49

well yeah yeah it's just that's

52:51

a rough start oh If he's

52:53

doing more and more, this is

52:55

just a beginning. This is just

52:58

the beginning. Oh boy. I'm getting

53:00

blown out. Yeah, just, yeah, just

53:02

soak it in, Delnicky, because soon

53:04

it'll be like, yeah, just, you're

53:06

the most horrible human being alive.

53:08

Yeah. So, so, yeah. Get ready

53:10

for that. You're like, the, uh,

53:12

you're like, the Adam of scenes,

53:14

you're low right now, writing stuff

53:16

in our side, like, like, I

53:18

can't wait for him to do

53:21

this. Adam's awesome at this, just

53:23

give it a couple years and

53:25

they're like, boy, this guy's terrible,

53:27

I want someone doing their beginner's

53:29

luck for a while. Yeah, for

53:31

right now, I'm like, I'll take

53:33

like the any sort of comments

53:35

and be like, oh, well, at

53:37

least they read what I wrote,

53:39

you know. Yeah, that's right. That's

53:41

it. Exactly. It's like me. I

53:44

don't read the YouTube comments. I

53:46

just and then I, to me,

53:48

YouTube comments don't exist. It's don't

53:50

exist. Awesome. Well listen Del Nikki,

53:52

thanks for jumping on and good

53:54

stuff. As always keep it up

53:56

and yeah, welcome to the to

53:58

the media world a little bit

54:00

if you If you can stand

54:02

it, I guess. Yeah, you can

54:04

do a podcast this weekend? Yeah,

54:06

Dalnick, you do the pulp cast

54:09

for this weekend. Absolutely. Oh. I

54:11

don't know what I'm doing. I

54:13

don't know how to go in

54:15

there and ask, but I'm going

54:17

to try. Yeah, you're fine. Don't

54:19

worry about it. Yeah. I'll be

54:21

around the large job as soon

54:23

as that check the flag is

54:26

out. We're done. So I can venture

54:28

over there with you. interview Oldenburg

54:30

with an iPhone last Friday. Yeah,

54:33

I know that's it's it's not

54:35

hard man. You can figure it

54:37

out. Yeah. Yep. Awesome. I'm gonna

54:39

do it. I'm also gonna ask

54:41

everybody I interview if they notice

54:43

that Steve wasn't there. Yeah, please do.

54:46

Please do. I bet you they all

54:48

will be super sad. I guarantee

54:50

you. Awesome. Fly Racing

54:52

Racier X podcast Travis

54:54

Del Nikki and V Jason

54:57

Wygant good chat boys and

54:59

enjoy Foxborough Weage. I hope

55:01

it just fucking pours on

55:03

you just pours on you. Just

55:05

pours on you. Yep, exactly. And

55:07

and the check will cash either

55:09

way weeds the check will catch. Yep.

55:12

Getting back to my roots. Is the

55:14

roots pay as I like to say?

55:16

Yeah, there we go. Awesome. Thanks

55:18

Travis Travis, appreciate

55:20

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55:32

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