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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dylan
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show, fresh off the heels
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of the first presidential debate of the
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season, perhaps the last. Not
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ideal, not ideal
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performance for Biden. Not
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the worst. By the way, I'm in the
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minority here when I genuinely
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watched it. And I thought
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it could have been worse. I
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know that it wasn't great. I know that
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it was bad. I know that
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it was, but I've just,
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this isn't new. The,
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what's very interesting is that everybody's acting
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like this is something that we've all
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figured out today. Oh
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my God, what happened to him? This
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guy has not looked alive in two
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years. He's barely made
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sense. He had a good state of
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the union. Um, but
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for the most part, he
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looks like he's not in
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his own body. His skin
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is wrapped so tightly around
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his skull that it's
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disturbing. He's incredibly
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advanced in age. His
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voice is very soft. He
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seems to be in hospice. You
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would put a man like this. If you
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went to visit your grandfather in hospice
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and he spoke like this, and
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he said, I love
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you and I love your
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family. That, that would make a lot
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of sense. It would make a lot
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of sense if someone who's about to leave
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the earth, which I believe he is, I believe
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he is. I believe he's almost
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there unless someone intervenes and
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gets this man to, uh,
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you know, a porch, he could maybe eke out
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a few more years, or maybe that's
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when he really dies. Maybe, you know, but
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it's never been great. He's
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a very old, very. He's
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had a rough life. He's
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had a rough life. One of his kids
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died of brain cancer because he spent too much time
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near a burn pit, which I don't even know what that
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is. But that's something in Iraq or I
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don't know what happened. It's
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sad. This is all sad. His first
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wife died because someone hit her with
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a car. Right. She was in a car.
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It was a car accident. And then one of his sons died because
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he got a car accident. Because
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he got brain cancer because he was in a burn pit.
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Something I don't know what it is.
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His other son, who's a crack addict,
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tried to fuck or did fuck that
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other son's wife. Burn
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pit brain cancer son's wife
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got fucked by the one who smokes
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crack. He's
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had a rough go of it. He
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was just, you know, this is a
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guy who said his rise to death.
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He was a senator from Delaware. And
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it sounds like I'm doing an obituary here,
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but I am. He was a senator from Delaware,
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the most corrupt state. When I
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was fucked and I had no money in the beginning
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of comedy, I got a
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credit card from gold key credit. Okay.
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And I went out and I tried to use it and
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it had a $250 limit. And they failed
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to mention that the activation fee was like
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200 something dollars. So
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I tried to use it the first time and it
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got denied. And
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I was like, what? Wait a minute. I just
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got this card. And then I looked and
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it said, yeah, but the activation fee of that card is 200.
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So you have nothing left on
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the fucking card. The companies that
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do that to people,
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people that are eating in a mall, eating
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a, you know, something
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tasty, high in
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sugar, drinking an
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electric blue margarita who are
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about to have their car
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declined. All of those
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companies. are
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headquartered in Delaware. They're
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all criminal enterprises, they
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all evade taxes, and they all
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cook up horrible terms
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for everyone who has one of these desperation
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credit cards. There's
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a whole subprime world of credit
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for people that are truly fucked. You
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know, it's the payday loans and all of that
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stuff. All of that headquartered
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in Delaware, his state. There's nothing
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else going on in Delaware, by the way.
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That's it, a few nice places, but
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that's it. And he's just been this
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Senator from Delaware. And when he had to, he
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got a little racist. When
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he had to, he got out there, he's like, we
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got super predators. We're throwing them
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in, don't worry about it. He
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said Obama was the first clean African-American
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that he'd ever met or something, the
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first articulate black had to run
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for office. Again, these are his words. But
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he was kind of a regular rank
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and file guy who had a, you
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know, who was a Senator, was a
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talented politician. He had a very sad
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kind of terrible life. Other
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than the fact that he was, he didn't seem to
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want this job, and he was on the edge of
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not getting it before they
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completely sandbag Bernie Sanders
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by keeping all these people
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in the race. And then on
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the last primary, totally stole
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kind of Bernie's thunder. And at the
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end, African-American
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voters, older voters propelled
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Biden to grab the
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nomination, and then he became
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the president. But he's been declining
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for a long time. He's
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not, you know, he has moments
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of sharpness. It's amazing about the brain, even
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in his stage of decline. I'm
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not, my son's not a loser. You're a
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loser. There's moments
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of lucidity and
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sharpness. go on the attack, something
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in him is still alive. There's
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some light that hasn't been extinguished.
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And he goes on the attack and then he goes back in.
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Then he recedes back into himself
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and he's confused again. It's
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very interesting to watch. And you could see it
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is abuse. It's been said before. It's not
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something that I'm not breaking any news. It
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is for sure abuse to watch
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him, to watch someone
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get confused and
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a little almost scared his face, his confused,
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doesn't know where he is, what's going on.
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And then he remembers, oh, I'm the president.
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I'm in a debate. Medicare,
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the border. He has a moment. It's lucid. And
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then he goes on the attack and
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some of it for a guy in his condition,
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for a guy that's truly at the
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end of all
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things, not just the
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presidency. He's not just at the
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end of his political career. He's
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at the end of all things.
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Every morning is a surprise to
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him. Every single morning is
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a part for a man at that
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point, that stage of his life. The
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fact that he can stand
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at a debate podium for any length of
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time. Is amazing.
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And all of the people that are freaking out about this. Who've
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who've known about this, who've known every, by
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the way, the Washington Post, the New York
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Times, these are not right wing things. They've
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all written articles going, yeah, he's not really
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present in meetings. He's there, but he's
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not there. He's kind of
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the way he was, you know, the other night,
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like he'll pop up. He'll
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go, well, Ukraine's only too
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much money. And then he
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goes away again. And then they kind of go,
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where is he? Where'd he go? Where is he? They've
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been leaking shit like this for months
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about, I forget the right.
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We're talking about just mainstream
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Democrat institutions, mainstream
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media. have been leaking
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for a while that he is
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not at his prime. And
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then he gets out on stage last night. He
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certainly fumbles. There's certainly
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problems. And now
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everybody's ready to throw him
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in the street. And now the conspiracy is
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was this engineered? Was it designed? Did the
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White House go? We're
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going to put him out. I was just on the phone with Louis
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C.K. and he made a good point. He goes, there was a thing
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in the early 90s, late 80s where a gay guy would
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just who had AIDS was about
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to die would put makeup on for his last party. You
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know what I mean? And is
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that this did the did they trot
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him out to
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feed him to
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the dogs per se? Did they did they bring
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him out to say, let's
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see what happens. We're
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going to make the debate early. We'll make the
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rules pretty tough for him. He'll
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come out. He'll fall
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on his face or not, but he
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did. And then if he
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does now we will all run and go,
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oh my god, this
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man cannot be president. He
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seems confused. We
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I don't know. Now,
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they everyone knew there was nothing
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different about this guy yesterday
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or the day before or
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the day before than the guy that walked
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on the debate stage. He had one good speech at
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the State of the Union where he was still showing
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signs of being very
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old and not getting
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things but nothing nothing like
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this this the format.
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He couldn't handle it. He shouldn't be there.
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Presidents don't do much. I
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can prove it. Ours
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has been dead. He's kind of dead
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and the country stills, you know, I don't
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agree with their farm. policy. I don't agree with a
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lot of things they're doing, but
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the day to day of the country is
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not really run by the president. It's
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run by a lot of different people.
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That's why you have this
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guy who's partially deceased and
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everyone's freaking out going, he can't be the
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president. He actually can't. Actually anyone can. We've
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proven that anyone can be the president. If
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he can be the president, you can be
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the president. And which is, I mean, it's
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a horrible thing to say to the people
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of this country. I couldn't think of a worse thing to
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say is that anyone can grow up to be president.
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It's just like follow your dreams or any
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of that meaningless horse shit that is completely
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bankrupted and destroyed the generation that I came
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from. Meaningless advice backed
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by nothing, which is
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what all of us got. Meaningless
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advice backed by nothing. You can
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be the president, but you kind
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of can. This is the problem.
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Once you've realized that you can be the
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president, you may want to be the president.
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And then that's kind of the end, isn't
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it? That would be the end. When my
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friend Ryan gets the idea in his head
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that he should be the president and he
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walks out of checking people's
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ID at gold's gym and
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begins his political career, we have
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a real problem. You
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had to have a patina of
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something functioning. And
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when you destroy that, people know
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they're being
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lied to. People expect it. People
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were like, Trump lied. They
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don't care. They get it. He
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was dishonest the other night. He broke the
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CNN fact check. No one, what is that?
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What even is
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the CNN fact checker? I'm sure
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Trump lied. I guarantee he lied, but I
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don't even know what the CNN fact
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checker is. I don't know if it's
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a machine. Is it a group of
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people in a room? What the
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fuck is this? CNN fact
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checker. I don't know. Is
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it AI? What is it? Is it
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a, I don't know what
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it is, but everyone kept saying that, that
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he broke the CNN fact checker. Trump
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made more than 30 false claims
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during CNN's presidential debate far more
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than Biden. The problem
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is that Biden was too confused
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to lie. That's
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why he's not gonna win. Of
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course Biden didn't make any false claims. He
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was barely present. Biden
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could have hit Trump with abortion. The big
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vulnerability for the Republicans
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is abortion. Americans by
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their nature are not fundamentalist
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religious psychopaths. They
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don't want their four-year-old kid transitioning,
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but they also don't want an
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eight-week abortion ban. And
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if the Democrats, Biden had hit Trump
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with that and said, and he tried,
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but he was so confused and so out
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of it it didn't really land. The strongest
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issue was abortion. He started talking about the
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Lincoln Riley chick was killed by an illegal
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immigrant, which again is a, is a, is
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a vulnerability for the Democrats, but
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the vulnerability for the Republicans is abortion. Someone
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on that stage and the only one was there was
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Biden, but whoever it was, let's say it was Gavin
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Newsom. Let's say it
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was Gretchen Whitmer, the woman who faked her own
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kidnapping. I'm just saying, I don't know who it's
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gonna be, which is kind of a fun archetype
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of person to be honest. A
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woman who faked her own kidnapping
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because she so wants so badly
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to be, you know, paid
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attention to, but whoever
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was on that stage should have said a
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vote for this man is a vote for an eight-week
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abortion ban, which may or may not be true and
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the Republicans may or may not have
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success passing that. However, a constitutional
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amendment to ban abortion, you got
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to go with what is working.
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White women in the suburbs are swing
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voters. They do not want an abortion
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ban. They do not want
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endless immigration. They do not want defunding
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of police. They want safe communities. They
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want schools. They don't love diversity, equity,
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and inclusion. They don't love critical
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race theory. They don't want gender
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theory in schools for the most part. However,
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they also do not want an eight
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week abortion ban. They probably don't want
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the 10 commandments in schools. I don't
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think they are white people
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who drink wine. Have
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you ever met white people who
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drink wine? I know a lot of white people who
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drink wine. They are not
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by their nature. They
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believe not in nothing. You
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know why? Wine is nice. The
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weather in Southern California is
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nice. Pool and patio types like a few things.
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They're pools and they're patios. They
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don't want people running through their yard
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with, you know, abolishing
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the police signs and eat the rich. They
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also don't want people running through their yard
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with Charlottesville torches talking about
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Jews will not replace us. They
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want another glass
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of wine. That's
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all they want. Those are the
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only swing voters, people who believe in so
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little that they haven't made
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up their mind yet. Women
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who may go to the grocery store today,
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but they may not. Have you ever
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heard a woman say that? Well, I
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might go today, but I don't know
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what could change. What
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could change? Are you
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going to get the cold cuts or not? Well,
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I don't know. We have to see other way.
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The day shapes up. We have to see the
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way the day shapes up. I'm
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a pool and patio type wine drunk
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suburban housewife. I don't believe in much.
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I may go get the cold cuts.
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I may not. You might start tonight
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and you may have food. We
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don't know. Life is meaningless. I
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have nothing except this decision
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of whether I'm going to decide to brave
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the traffic to get the cold cuts. potato
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salad today but I might get it
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tomorrow. The barbecues not till Saturday. Those
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are the types of people they are trying
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to reach the country. It's already been decided.
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He might get some more of the
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black and latino vote. He may get
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some more of the white vote. There
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are independent voters that exist in those
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demographics but none that are statistically significant.
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Nobody swings to the left
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and to the right more than
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the wine drunk suburban mom
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who may go to the grocery store today but I
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may not have got things to do. You know I
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got on the phone with my sister and the day
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just got away from me. The day got away from
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me. These are the
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people you're going for. These
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are the people you're, they're
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not fundamentalists. They don't want
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things to change all that
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much. That's
16:50
why during the last
16:52
Trump presidency things were erratic. They
16:54
were chaotic. Their families
16:57
were fighting. They
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believed in some of the MAGA things and they,
17:02
but again they were like they didn't
17:05
want to be bad people. Their
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families came and there were fights at the
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den. People weren't coming to Christmas and well
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then why did they buy all that china
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then? If people aren't going to come to
17:16
Christmas over politics well then why the hell
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did they learn how to cook and how
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did they entertain? So the thing that these
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women care about the most which is entertaining
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in their fucking houses is
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being jeopardized by how chaotic the entire
17:29
political situation is. Nobody will come to
17:32
this Christmas war. Why the fuck do
17:34
we live in Newport Beach? If we
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can't show up your brother and sister
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from Ohio why even have this house
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in Newport Beach? Why did I learn
17:44
how to make rosemary oil? I don't,
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I took fresh rosemary and I put it
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with oil. I learned how to make rosemary
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oil to make your your wife's feel like
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shit. Your your brother's wife feel like shit
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because she's a public school teacher and she's beat
17:58
cancer twice and who cares? I
18:00
want to show her that I have rosemary oil, and we
18:02
have a house in Newport Beach, but they don't want to
18:04
come this year. They don't want to
18:07
come this year because I posted that
18:09
thing on Facebook about the Guatemalans, and
18:11
now they think it was ripping people
18:13
apart. So these white women, the key
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to the country, the only swing voter,
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the people that are present, you
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know, at these
18:23
pool and patio types, the
18:25
people that go to jewelry parties, the people
18:27
that, when they hear, ooh, it's
18:30
a gated community? People like that,
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those are the swing voters. Those
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are the swing voters. Those are the
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only people that notice when Biden is so bad,
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when he's babbling, when he's foaming at the mouth,
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when he's basically about to fall down.
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Those are the people that come alive. Those
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are the people you have to say, listen,
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you're not going to be able to get an
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abortion, and I'm
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pro-choice. I think people should get abortions. I think they
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should be allowed to get abortions, not late term, not
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at the 11th hour, but
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I do think that women should be able
19:06
to get abortions, and most people in America
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do. Most people in America do.
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I don't think it should be as,
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I don't think it's a celebrated moral
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victory. I don't think it's an accomplishment in
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the same way that I don't view many things as
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accomplishments that our culture views as an accomplishment. I don't
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think coming out of the closet really is an
19:25
accomplishment. I think owning a Bentley is
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an accomplishment. I don't think sucking
19:29
a cock is an accomplishment. It's a nice thing to
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do, but it's
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not necessarily an accomplishment. Surviving
19:38
is an accomplishment, and whatever you have to do
19:40
to survive is an accomplishment. If you want me
19:42
to pat you on the back, you want me
19:45
to cheer you on or applaud for you, you
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got to do something that really impresses me, and
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it's not sucking a cock, and it's not getting
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an abortion. I think you should be able to
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do both of those things. I
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don't think they should be the two central
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points of your personality. but I
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think they shouldn't be illegal and most
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Americans do agree with me in that
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sense and so does Trump.
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Donald Trump is not a fundamentalist
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Christian. He's reinventing himself as one
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because he needs to. In the
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same way that Putin will start
20:18
talking about the Russian Orthodox Church,
20:20
Putin was a KGB agent. Religion
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was literally banned in the
20:24
Soviet Union. He's not any,
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you know, I think religion's
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got a lot of great things about it, but
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there are people that believe that under no
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circumstances, whether it is a rape, whether it
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is incest, and at one point in my
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favorite part of the debate, Joe Biden said,
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do you have the abortion section where he
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goes, this is my favorite part of the
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debate, Biden goes, there are a lot of
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people right now being
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raped by their brothers and sisters
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and it's just ridiculous and
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it's the funniest sentence I've ever heard
20:56
anyone say, like the idea that by the way
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that's happening all the time and
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it's ridiculous. Let's listen
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to this if we have it. Look,
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there's so many young women who have been,
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including a young woman who just was murdered
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and he went to the funeral. Where
21:13
you going? The idea that she
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was murdered by a by an immigrant
21:18
coming in. They talk about that, but
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here's the deal. There's a lot of
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young women to be raped by their by
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their in-laws, by their by their spouses, brothers
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and sisters, by just
21:30
it's just ridiculous. And he goes, there's
21:32
a lot of young women being raped
21:34
by their spouses, by their in-laws, by
21:37
their brothers and sisters, and it's just ridiculous.
21:40
It's just the funniest comment I've ever heard.
21:42
It was a very off-handed, off-side comment. There's
21:44
a lot of people being raped by their
21:46
brothers and sisters and it's just ridiculous. It's
21:48
like, well no, if we have an epidemic
21:50
of brother-sister rape, it's a
21:52
lot more than ridiculous. And
21:54
I would like to know if that is, and by the
21:57
way I'm not saying it's not happening, but
21:59
I'm I think we had to use another word.
22:03
It's like traffic's ridiculous. God, that
22:05
traffic, that was ridiculous. But
22:08
if a brother is impregnating his sister or
22:10
an in-law, and I know it happened, this
22:13
threat, but it's just funny, this is what
22:15
I mean. He's lost a threat. That
22:17
was the opportunity to hit Trump on the
22:19
abortion ban stuff. That was the opportunity. He
22:22
could have done it. He didn't do it.
22:26
He did not do it. So Trump,
22:28
by the way, just remained presidential, didn't really
22:30
go on the attack, didn't have
22:32
to. Didn't shred him. Didn't
22:35
try to, you know, as
22:38
Frank Underwood, as Kevin Spacey said, now
22:41
it's time to guide him to the rocks.
22:44
That's kind of what Trump did. Trump
22:49
basically was pretty
22:51
diplomatic. Pretty
22:55
diplomatic. He did say that one thing. Biden
22:59
was the one kind of taking the
23:02
low blows. My son's not a loser.
23:04
You're a loser. You have the morals of an
23:06
alley cat, which was funny. Now this is a
23:08
line somebody said, Trump being like, Melania was pregnant.
23:10
Let's watch this. For
23:12
doing a whole range of things, of
23:15
having sex with a porn star on the
23:17
night, while your wife
23:19
was pregnant. I mean, what are you
23:21
talking about? Yeah.
23:26
So he did go after Trump in that
23:28
sense, but Trump remained
23:31
a little presidential by just saying,
23:33
hey, they're going after me
23:35
for political reasons. They can't win. They're
23:38
using the courts. I
23:44
was just in, my friend was at Tiffany's getting
23:46
something for his wife. And
23:48
I was just in Tiffany's in LA. And I never
23:50
go, I have horrible fashion sense. And most people know
23:52
that. It's very kind of you.
23:54
Many people have pointed that out. But
23:57
fashion is not a big deal for me. I do not go to
23:59
Rodeo driver. I just get sunglasses there when I'm
24:01
there. If I ever go there, I get sunglasses. And
24:04
I was in Tiffany's for the first time, and I was
24:07
there. And I was trying
24:09
to buy a handbag
24:12
for my house manager
24:14
who manages my properties. She's a very
24:16
difficult woman, but that's what makes
24:19
her great at her job. She is
24:21
formidable and intense. And
24:24
it is that intensity that allows
24:26
her to thrive
24:29
in her current position. So
24:31
I was going to get her a small handbag there. I was
24:33
just in there with my friend who was getting something for his
24:36
wife. I was not there, and I saw a
24:38
small handbag. And I said, can I ship
24:40
this to my house
24:42
manager, to the woman that is managing
24:45
the renovation I have going on, a
24:47
pool that we hope will be ready
24:49
by 4th of July, where I have
24:51
invited my family. I do think, though,
24:53
I got an invite to the
24:55
Kennedy compound. I don't know if that's true or not, but if
24:57
I did, I will walk
24:59
out of my house and leave
25:01
my family to enjoy the full
25:04
range of features of the property.
25:07
I will absolutely leave them to go
25:09
to the Kennedys, of course. I
25:11
don't know if that's happening or not. But
25:15
the guy comes with this nasty surfer
25:17
guy with long hair and
25:20
lanyards on his wrist. What is
25:22
that? If someone you
25:24
know isn't dead, get it off the wrist. What is it?
25:26
And even if they are, enough. He's
25:28
got the lanyard, and he's got rings. And then
25:30
he comes up to me and he goes, if you want us
25:32
to ship this, like that, we're talking to me like that. Spend
25:36
$2,500 on this dumb bag
25:38
for this woman who we love.
25:41
But he goes, if you want us
25:43
to ship this, you've got to fill this out. And
25:45
he hands me a computer. I'd say, no, no, no, I don't work here.
25:48
I wrote her address on a card.
25:50
You fill it out. And
25:53
then they took so long, I had to just leave. Because they literally,
25:56
I said, I'm at a time crunch. I warned them multiple times. I
25:58
had to leave. It'll
26:01
never be popular to say this right now and
26:03
I know people aren't gonna like it and I
26:05
don't care and I don't give a fuck folks
26:07
and I don't care how it looks and I
26:09
don't. I have never seen, I have never
26:11
seen in all my years I've
26:13
been broke, I've had a little more,
26:15
I've had a little less, it's not
26:18
about money, it's not about any of
26:20
it. I have never seen the complete
26:25
disregard for
26:28
people's jobs in
26:31
retail. They
26:34
are nasty, they're vicious,
26:37
they're crazy. They're,
26:40
you walk into a store and
26:43
it doesn't matter who you are, they
26:45
don't care. Meaning
26:47
whether you're buying a lot of shit
26:50
or a little bit you're gonna be
26:52
treated horribly. Why
26:55
is this allowed? This
26:57
is an aside from the debate in our analysis
26:59
but it might tie in, but it might tie
27:01
in. Why are people
27:03
now acting like you've done the
27:06
wrong thing when you walk into their
27:08
store? Because every
27:10
store you walk in now, by
27:12
the way everyone when you walk in the
27:14
store if it's a nice store, the guards
27:16
stand at the door like you're about
27:18
to go in there with a machete. I
27:21
understand there's been crime but there's
27:23
got to be a little bit of a
27:25
happy medium between laissez-faire, come
27:28
in and rape us and let's treat
27:30
every single person who walks in here
27:32
like they're a violent street
27:34
thug criminal, okay?
27:38
And they're looking at me and
27:40
they have this look in their eye and the
27:42
minute and you and some of them are nice. One
27:44
of the ladies who's a
27:46
nice woman, a brain-dead woman, she
27:51
goes where'd you guys come in from? I said oh
27:53
we're in it, we're at Malibu. I love, I like
27:55
Malibu one day I was on the beach and
27:58
I saw a whale and my friend
28:00
said whales don't come this close
28:02
to the shore. And I said
28:04
they do. And it was the
28:06
whale. And I saw a whale. It's
28:09
so relaxing to sit on the beach
28:11
and look at all whale. So
28:14
you run the you have complete brain
28:16
dead, complete brain dead,
28:18
like traumatized, like the people you
28:20
bump into now in any retail
28:22
environment have been like, completely like,
28:25
like MK ultra, like
28:27
repeatedly raped in a room
28:30
and tied to a bed to
28:32
where they have disassociated and they're like, hi,
28:35
are you are you in town
28:37
for work? Or for
28:39
pleasure? Are you and completely
28:42
not in their own body.
28:44
And then you have people that are just
28:46
angry and frustrated that you've walked in
28:49
and they're hostile. If you
28:51
want us to ship this, you have no,
28:53
I don't know. I don't you fill it
28:55
out. Let me pay for it. And let
28:57
me leave. And then you can take all the time you
28:59
want. Just let me pay for it. Let me leave. Why?
29:02
Why? And I understand maybe, maybe
29:04
it's that they're not being paid.
29:08
Maybe it's the people in retail are not being
29:10
paid right now. And my
29:12
heart goes out to them. If that's the case,
29:14
it probably is the case. I
29:17
understand the way corporations abuse
29:20
their employees. I'm not for that.
29:25
Maybe it's because none of these people are in
29:27
unions. Maybe these people are miserable. What
29:34
is Tiffany's pay these people? Probably
29:36
$20 an hour. Shut up. Then
29:40
be good. And be good.
29:42
Then that's not
29:44
a lot. I understand
29:46
you work at Tiffany's you deal with all these
29:48
rich fucks that have all this money and it
29:50
makes you hate them and
29:52
it makes you angry and it fills you with
29:54
rage. But I'm not one
29:56
of those people. I'm just trying to buy a
29:59
small bag. for my house manager,
30:01
who herself likes logos.
30:06
She wants, when
30:08
I bought her her first thing, I get
30:10
gifts for people. I went to
30:12
Dior and I said, the woman showed me a
30:14
pocketbook. I said, this is very classy. She said,
30:16
this is very understated. I said, give me the
30:18
most disgusting thing you have with
30:21
the logo right out on the
30:23
bag. Is that what I got? Do
30:25
you remember what I got for her? This is it, yeah. Do
30:28
you see how disgusting that is? The logo's on
30:30
the bag. I said, she's from Queens. The logo
30:32
must be on the bag. It
30:34
does her no good to have something that people
30:36
don't know what it is. They need to know
30:39
how disgusting it is. So
30:43
this was a nice little Tiffany bag and
30:45
it says, please return to Tiffany's New York.
30:47
It was heinous, heinous, disgusting,
30:50
grotesque. But
30:54
it fit perfectly because the person I was giving
30:56
it to was going to appreciate the logo
31:00
loud in your face. Perfect.
31:06
It was working perfectly until
31:08
the employees just, again,
31:12
I know
31:15
the Scott, I don't know that Scott Sice kid. He's
31:17
a funny guy. And I know he's in that cocaine
31:19
bear movie. He did all these really funny things about
31:22
how everyone that goes into a retail
31:24
environment is some type of monster. And
31:27
like, I get it. And I get that that's
31:29
fashionable. And he's maybe
31:31
not altogether wrong. But at
31:34
the end of the day, everybody
31:36
has the job. I've had jobs I hate. I've
31:40
had jobs I hated. And I
31:42
wasn't graded them. I understand that.
31:44
When I was a tour guide, I
31:47
sat on my tour bus and sometimes I barely
31:49
gave the tour. A Russian woman once punched me in
31:51
the stomach. She walked up and
31:53
she said, I paid for the tour. I said, listen to the tour
31:56
on the headphones. And she punched
31:58
me in the stomach. This very poor Russian. A
32:00
lot of them are poor, and she came in
32:02
February and it was freezing because that's the only
32:04
time they could afford to visit because the prices
32:07
were so low in New York of the
32:09
hotels and the flights. And she
32:11
was there and she was freezing. And
32:13
she was angry and she punched me in the stomach.
32:16
I get it. I get what
32:18
it means to hate your job and to be
32:20
bad at it. I'm not
32:22
claiming any moral superiority here. But
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I'll say this. I
32:29
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32:38
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32:40
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32:42
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32:45
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32:47
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32:49
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32:54
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32:56
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32:59
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33:01
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33:03
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33:05
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in. It smells like that. So
42:22
when you're at home, you can smell what
42:25
it feels like to be in Nordstrom's. Don't
42:27
you sit at home and go, I wish
42:29
I was in Nordstrom's, but it's 2 a.m.
42:31
and I'm up eating, I'm binge eating, and
42:33
I'm sitting in my kitchen wondering if I'm
42:35
having gas or a heart attack. Wouldn't it
42:37
be nicer to smell like you're in a
42:40
Nordstrom's? Our entire culture is
42:42
based around the idea that buying things
42:44
makes you happy and it gives your
42:46
life meaning. That's our entire culture. Don't
42:49
yell at me. I didn't do it,
42:51
but that's all it is. So
42:54
why in God's name would we
42:56
not? That should be the religion.
42:58
You should walk into Bergdorf
43:00
Goodman or Tiffany or Louis Vuitton
43:03
and you should get the
43:05
feeling that people have when
43:07
they walk into St. Patrick's Cathedral
43:09
for midnight mass because
43:12
the Savior has been born and the Savior should
43:14
be a decent looking person
43:17
who is your best friend for that hour
43:19
and they should guide you around the store
43:21
and make you feel good while
43:24
you shop. They should not make you
43:26
fill out forms. It's not the DMV.
43:28
It's not immigration. I am a citizen.
43:30
I don't want to fill out forms.
43:32
I want you to guide me through
43:34
this. I want you to get me
43:36
a bag for my house manager. She
43:39
doesn't have a family. Neither do I.
43:41
All we're trying to do here
43:43
is show our appreciation for our friends,
43:45
the people that we've adopted into our
43:47
lives. I
43:50
don't understand why it's not easier.
43:52
I don't understand why the one
43:54
thing that we've shown that we
43:56
can do and we can do well has
43:59
cratered. Pay them more, give
44:01
them drugs, I don't know what to
44:03
do. Let them drink at work. Whatever
44:06
needs to happen here, needs to, we
44:08
need to turn this thing around.
44:11
I'm sick of looking at a
44:13
middle-aged divorcee who
44:15
hates her life and hates me,
44:18
because I look like the fat idiot who
44:20
cheated on her and is
44:22
taking that out on me.
44:24
I don't want it anymore. And I don't
44:27
know, now I understand that tech eats all.
44:31
And the internet has
44:33
eaten everything, and people now just
44:35
buy things. The
44:38
perception that malls have suffered is rooted
44:40
in truth. Many malls and stores have
44:42
closed in recent decades. As
44:45
Aleksandra Lang, an architecture critic, and the author of
44:47
Meet Me By The Fountain, an inside history of
44:50
the mall, explained to me in an email, the
44:53
ebb and flow of retail is much more visible to
44:55
the general public than any other type of business. So
44:58
people pay attention earlier in the down cycle
45:00
of a mall's trajectory. Plus, as Mercer put
45:02
it, it's more dramatic to see a mall
45:04
closing than thriving. Malls
45:09
were starting to go out when I
45:11
was there. But I'm telling you
45:13
right now, the inability
45:16
of these companies to
45:18
pay people or to make
45:20
them excited about their jobs, I don't know how to
45:22
do this. I'm not gonna pretend to be an expert.
45:26
But it's the one thing that we do well
45:28
as a country. Madison
45:30
Avenue, Rodeo Drive, these places
45:32
should be holy. Because
45:35
by the way, it's not only rich people, it's
45:37
the couple from Ohio, they just wanna feel something.
45:42
My friend got his wife's earrings, he wants
45:44
to feel something. This is
45:46
special for him, this is not an everyday
45:48
thing. He's not gonna send his assistant to
45:50
go pick up some earrings for his wife.
45:54
He wants to feel something, make him feel
45:56
like a man. Make him feel
45:58
like a man. Say
46:02
to me, good, isn't this nice you're buying this
46:04
bag for your house manager? Isn't that nice, man,
46:07
I wish I had a boss like you. That's
46:10
what they should have said. She should have turned
46:12
around and said, man, I wish I had a
46:14
boss like you. You're more of a humanitarian people.
46:17
Like you don't exist anymore, sir. I'll
46:20
fill out all this myself. Let me get
46:22
your card. Let me make you pay for
46:24
this. And we'll get it to that woman
46:26
because people like you, sir, you're
46:29
going out there doing good deeds. Let me
46:31
not interrupt and impede your next good deed.
46:34
You're screwed. You after these been visited by
46:36
the ghosts, you're a
46:39
fucking legend, sir. You're a
46:41
fucking look at this legend
46:43
alert. They should have started
46:45
screaming. What about song? What
46:47
if they all broke in
46:49
a song? He's getting his
46:51
house manager a bag. This
46:53
fat man is selfless. This
46:56
fat man is selfless. He
46:58
could spend this on veal
47:01
or, uh, some type of
47:03
baguette, but he's getting his
47:05
house manager a bag, but
47:08
they didn't do it. They were mean to me.
47:11
They were mean to me. The
47:13
people at the Tiffany's on Rodeo
47:15
drive were mean to me because
47:18
I'm fat. And they knew my
47:20
house manager as well as a
47:22
little fat. And they were, they
47:24
were racist against me for that.
47:28
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