397 - Presidential Debate Reaction

397 - Presidential Debate Reaction

Released Saturday, 29th June 2024
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397 - Presidential Debate Reaction

397 - Presidential Debate Reaction

397 - Presidential Debate Reaction

397 - Presidential Debate Reaction

Saturday, 29th June 2024
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dylan

0:02

show, fresh off the heels

0:04

of the first presidential debate of the

0:06

season, perhaps the last. Not

0:10

ideal, not ideal

0:12

performance for Biden. Not

0:15

the worst. By the way, I'm in the

0:17

minority here when I genuinely

0:21

watched it. And I thought

0:24

it could have been worse. I

0:26

know that it wasn't great. I know that

0:29

it was bad. I know that

0:31

it was, but I've just,

0:33

this isn't new. The,

0:36

what's very interesting is that everybody's acting

0:38

like this is something that we've all

0:41

figured out today. Oh

0:44

my God, what happened to him? This

0:46

guy has not looked alive in two

0:48

years. He's barely made

0:50

sense. He had a good state of

0:52

the union. Um, but

0:55

for the most part, he

0:57

looks like he's not in

0:59

his own body. His skin

1:01

is wrapped so tightly around

1:03

his skull that it's

1:06

disturbing. He's incredibly

1:08

advanced in age. His

1:11

voice is very soft. He

1:13

seems to be in hospice. You

1:16

would put a man like this. If you

1:18

went to visit your grandfather in hospice

1:21

and he spoke like this, and

1:24

he said, I love

1:26

you and I love your

1:29

family. That, that would make a lot

1:31

of sense. It would make a lot

1:33

of sense if someone who's about to leave

1:35

the earth, which I believe he is, I believe

1:39

he is. I believe he's almost

1:41

there unless someone intervenes and

1:43

gets this man to, uh,

1:46

you know, a porch, he could maybe eke out

1:48

a few more years, or maybe that's

1:50

when he really dies. Maybe, you know, but

1:54

it's never been great. He's

1:57

a very old, very. He's

2:00

had a rough life. He's

2:03

had a rough life. One of his kids

2:05

died of brain cancer because he spent too much time

2:09

near a burn pit, which I don't even know what that

2:11

is. But that's something in Iraq or I

2:13

don't know what happened. It's

2:16

sad. This is all sad. His first

2:18

wife died because someone hit her with

2:20

a car. Right. She was in a car.

2:22

It was a car accident. And then one of his sons died because

2:24

he got a car accident. Because

2:29

he got brain cancer because he was in a burn pit.

2:32

Something I don't know what it is.

2:34

His other son, who's a crack addict,

2:36

tried to fuck or did fuck that

2:39

other son's wife. Burn

2:41

pit brain cancer son's wife

2:44

got fucked by the one who smokes

2:46

crack. He's

2:49

had a rough go of it. He

2:53

was just, you know, this is a

2:55

guy who said his rise to death.

2:58

He was a senator from Delaware. And

3:00

it sounds like I'm doing an obituary here,

3:02

but I am. He was a senator from Delaware,

3:04

the most corrupt state. When I

3:07

was fucked and I had no money in the beginning

3:09

of comedy, I got a

3:11

credit card from gold key credit. Okay.

3:14

And I went out and I tried to use it and

3:16

it had a $250 limit. And they failed

3:18

to mention that the activation fee was like

3:20

200 something dollars. So

3:23

I tried to use it the first time and it

3:25

got denied. And

3:27

I was like, what? Wait a minute. I just

3:29

got this card. And then I looked and

3:31

it said, yeah, but the activation fee of that card is 200.

3:35

So you have nothing left on

3:37

the fucking card. The companies that

3:40

do that to people,

3:42

people that are eating in a mall, eating

3:45

a, you know, something

3:47

tasty, high in

3:50

sugar, drinking an

3:52

electric blue margarita who are

3:54

about to have their car

3:56

declined. All of those

3:58

companies. are

4:01

headquartered in Delaware. They're

4:03

all criminal enterprises, they

4:06

all evade taxes, and they all

4:08

cook up horrible terms

4:13

for everyone who has one of these desperation

4:16

credit cards. There's

4:19

a whole subprime world of credit

4:22

for people that are truly fucked. You

4:25

know, it's the payday loans and all of that

4:27

stuff. All of that headquartered

4:30

in Delaware, his state. There's nothing

4:32

else going on in Delaware, by the way.

4:34

That's it, a few nice places, but

4:36

that's it. And he's just been this

4:38

Senator from Delaware. And when he had to, he

4:40

got a little racist. When

4:43

he had to, he got out there, he's like, we

4:45

got super predators. We're throwing them

4:48

in, don't worry about it. He

4:51

said Obama was the first clean African-American

4:53

that he'd ever met or something, the

4:55

first articulate black had to run

4:57

for office. Again, these are his words. But

5:02

he was kind of a regular rank

5:04

and file guy who had a, you

5:06

know, who was a Senator, was a

5:08

talented politician. He had a very sad

5:10

kind of terrible life. Other

5:13

than the fact that he was, he didn't seem to

5:15

want this job, and he was on the edge of

5:18

not getting it before they

5:20

completely sandbag Bernie Sanders

5:22

by keeping all these people

5:24

in the race. And then on

5:26

the last primary, totally stole

5:28

kind of Bernie's thunder. And at the

5:31

end, African-American

5:33

voters, older voters propelled

5:35

Biden to grab the

5:38

nomination, and then he became

5:40

the president. But he's been declining

5:42

for a long time. He's

5:45

not, you know, he has moments

5:47

of sharpness. It's amazing about the brain, even

5:50

in his stage of decline. I'm

5:52

not, my son's not a loser. You're a

5:54

loser. There's moments

5:57

of lucidity and

5:59

sharpness. go on the attack, something

6:01

in him is still alive. There's

6:04

some light that hasn't been extinguished.

6:07

And he goes on the attack and then he goes back in.

6:10

Then he recedes back into himself

6:12

and he's confused again. It's

6:14

very interesting to watch. And you could see it

6:17

is abuse. It's been said before. It's not

6:19

something that I'm not breaking any news. It

6:22

is for sure abuse to watch

6:24

him, to watch someone

6:26

get confused and

6:28

a little almost scared his face, his confused,

6:30

doesn't know where he is, what's going on.

6:32

And then he remembers, oh, I'm the president.

6:34

I'm in a debate. Medicare,

6:38

the border. He has a moment. It's lucid. And

6:40

then he goes on the attack and

6:42

some of it for a guy in his condition,

6:45

for a guy that's truly at the

6:47

end of all

6:49

things, not just the

6:51

presidency. He's not just at the

6:53

end of his political career. He's

6:56

at the end of all things.

6:58

Every morning is a surprise to

7:00

him. Every single morning is

7:03

a part for a man at that

7:05

point, that stage of his life. The

7:08

fact that he can stand

7:11

at a debate podium for any length of

7:13

time. Is amazing.

7:16

And all of the people that are freaking out about this. Who've

7:21

who've known about this, who've known every, by

7:23

the way, the Washington Post, the New York

7:25

Times, these are not right wing things. They've

7:28

all written articles going, yeah, he's not really

7:30

present in meetings. He's there, but he's

7:33

not there. He's kind of

7:35

the way he was, you know, the other night,

7:37

like he'll pop up. He'll

7:39

go, well, Ukraine's only too

7:41

much money. And then he

7:43

goes away again. And then they kind of go,

7:45

where is he? Where'd he go? Where is he? They've

7:48

been leaking shit like this for months

7:51

about, I forget the right.

7:53

We're talking about just mainstream

7:55

Democrat institutions, mainstream

7:58

media. have been leaking

8:01

for a while that he is

8:03

not at his prime. And

8:07

then he gets out on stage last night. He

8:09

certainly fumbles. There's certainly

8:12

problems. And now

8:14

everybody's ready to throw him

8:16

in the street. And now the conspiracy is

8:18

was this engineered? Was it designed? Did the

8:20

White House go? We're

8:22

going to put him out. I was just on the phone with Louis

8:24

C.K. and he made a good point. He goes, there was a thing

8:27

in the early 90s, late 80s where a gay guy would

8:30

just who had AIDS was about

8:32

to die would put makeup on for his last party. You

8:34

know what I mean? And is

8:37

that this did the did they trot

8:39

him out to

8:41

feed him to

8:46

the dogs per se? Did they did they bring

8:48

him out to say, let's

8:50

see what happens. We're

8:53

going to make the debate early. We'll make the

8:55

rules pretty tough for him. He'll

8:57

come out. He'll fall

8:59

on his face or not, but he

9:01

did. And then if he

9:04

does now we will all run and go,

9:07

oh my god, this

9:09

man cannot be president. He

9:12

seems confused. We

9:15

I don't know. Now,

9:19

they everyone knew there was nothing

9:21

different about this guy yesterday

9:24

or the day before or

9:26

the day before than the guy that walked

9:28

on the debate stage. He had one good speech at

9:31

the State of the Union where he was still showing

9:34

signs of being very

9:37

old and not getting

9:39

things but nothing nothing like

9:42

this this the format.

9:45

He couldn't handle it. He shouldn't be there.

9:49

Presidents don't do much. I

9:51

can prove it. Ours

9:53

has been dead. He's kind of dead

9:56

and the country stills, you know, I don't

9:59

agree with their farm. policy. I don't agree with a

10:01

lot of things they're doing, but

10:03

the day to day of the country is

10:06

not really run by the president. It's

10:08

run by a lot of different people.

10:11

That's why you have this

10:14

guy who's partially deceased and

10:17

everyone's freaking out going, he can't be the

10:19

president. He actually can't. Actually anyone can. We've

10:21

proven that anyone can be the president. If

10:24

he can be the president, you can be

10:26

the president. And which is, I mean, it's

10:28

a horrible thing to say to the people

10:31

of this country. I couldn't think of a worse thing to

10:34

say is that anyone can grow up to be president.

10:36

It's just like follow your dreams or any

10:38

of that meaningless horse shit that is completely

10:41

bankrupted and destroyed the generation that I came

10:43

from. Meaningless advice backed

10:45

by nothing, which is

10:47

what all of us got. Meaningless

10:49

advice backed by nothing. You can

10:51

be the president, but you kind

10:54

of can. This is the problem.

10:56

Once you've realized that you can be the

10:58

president, you may want to be the president.

11:01

And then that's kind of the end, isn't

11:03

it? That would be the end. When my

11:05

friend Ryan gets the idea in his head

11:08

that he should be the president and he

11:10

walks out of checking people's

11:12

ID at gold's gym and

11:15

begins his political career, we have

11:17

a real problem. You

11:21

had to have a patina of

11:24

something functioning. And

11:26

when you destroy that, people know

11:29

they're being

11:31

lied to. People expect it. People

11:33

were like, Trump lied. They

11:35

don't care. They get it. He

11:38

was dishonest the other night. He broke the

11:40

CNN fact check. No one, what is that?

11:43

What even is

11:45

the CNN fact checker? I'm sure

11:47

Trump lied. I guarantee he lied, but I

11:49

don't even know what the CNN fact

11:52

checker is. I don't know if it's

11:54

a machine. Is it a group of

11:56

people in a room? What the

11:59

fuck is this? CNN fact

12:01

checker. I don't know. Is

12:03

it AI? What is it? Is it

12:05

a, I don't know what

12:07

it is, but everyone kept saying that, that

12:09

he broke the CNN fact checker. Trump

12:14

made more than 30 false claims

12:16

during CNN's presidential debate far more

12:18

than Biden. The problem

12:20

is that Biden was too confused

12:23

to lie. That's

12:25

why he's not gonna win. Of

12:29

course Biden didn't make any false claims. He

12:31

was barely present. Biden

12:33

could have hit Trump with abortion. The big

12:35

vulnerability for the Republicans

12:37

is abortion. Americans by

12:39

their nature are not fundamentalist

12:43

religious psychopaths. They

12:45

don't want their four-year-old kid transitioning,

12:48

but they also don't want an

12:50

eight-week abortion ban. And

12:52

if the Democrats, Biden had hit Trump

12:55

with that and said, and he tried,

12:57

but he was so confused and so out

12:59

of it it didn't really land. The strongest

13:02

issue was abortion. He started talking about the

13:04

Lincoln Riley chick was killed by an illegal

13:06

immigrant, which again is a, is a, is

13:08

a vulnerability for the Democrats, but

13:11

the vulnerability for the Republicans is abortion. Someone

13:13

on that stage and the only one was there was

13:16

Biden, but whoever it was, let's say it was Gavin

13:18

Newsom. Let's say it

13:20

was Gretchen Whitmer, the woman who faked her own

13:22

kidnapping. I'm just saying, I don't know who it's

13:24

gonna be, which is kind of a fun archetype

13:26

of person to be honest. A

13:28

woman who faked her own kidnapping

13:30

because she so wants so badly

13:32

to be, you know, paid

13:35

attention to, but whoever

13:37

was on that stage should have said a

13:40

vote for this man is a vote for an eight-week

13:42

abortion ban, which may or may not be true and

13:44

the Republicans may or may not have

13:46

success passing that. However, a constitutional

13:49

amendment to ban abortion, you got

13:51

to go with what is working.

13:54

White women in the suburbs are swing

13:56

voters. They do not want an abortion

13:59

ban. They do not want

14:01

endless immigration. They do not want defunding

14:03

of police. They want safe communities. They

14:06

want schools. They don't love diversity, equity,

14:08

and inclusion. They don't love critical

14:10

race theory. They don't want gender

14:13

theory in schools for the most part. However,

14:15

they also do not want an eight

14:18

week abortion ban. They probably don't want

14:20

the 10 commandments in schools. I don't

14:22

think they are white people

14:25

who drink wine. Have

14:27

you ever met white people who

14:29

drink wine? I know a lot of white people who

14:31

drink wine. They are not

14:33

by their nature. They

14:36

believe not in nothing. You

14:39

know why? Wine is nice. The

14:43

weather in Southern California is

14:45

nice. Pool and patio types like a few things.

14:48

They're pools and they're patios. They

14:50

don't want people running through their yard

14:53

with, you know, abolishing

14:57

the police signs and eat the rich. They

14:59

also don't want people running through their yard

15:01

with Charlottesville torches talking about

15:03

Jews will not replace us. They

15:06

want another glass

15:08

of wine. That's

15:10

all they want. Those are the

15:13

only swing voters, people who believe in so

15:15

little that they haven't made

15:17

up their mind yet. Women

15:19

who may go to the grocery store today,

15:21

but they may not. Have you ever

15:23

heard a woman say that? Well, I

15:26

might go today, but I don't know

15:28

what could change. What

15:30

could change? Are you

15:32

going to get the cold cuts or not? Well,

15:34

I don't know. We have to see other way.

15:36

The day shapes up. We have to see the

15:38

way the day shapes up. I'm

15:40

a pool and patio type wine drunk

15:42

suburban housewife. I don't believe in much.

15:44

I may go get the cold cuts.

15:47

I may not. You might start tonight

15:49

and you may have food. We

15:51

don't know. Life is meaningless. I

15:53

have nothing except this decision

15:55

of whether I'm going to decide to brave

15:58

the traffic to get the cold cuts. potato

16:00

salad today but I might get it

16:02

tomorrow. The barbecues not till Saturday. Those

16:05

are the types of people they are trying

16:07

to reach the country. It's already been decided.

16:10

He might get some more of the

16:12

black and latino vote. He may get

16:14

some more of the white vote. There

16:17

are independent voters that exist in those

16:19

demographics but none that are statistically significant.

16:21

Nobody swings to the left

16:23

and to the right more than

16:26

the wine drunk suburban mom

16:29

who may go to the grocery store today but I

16:31

may not have got things to do. You know I

16:33

got on the phone with my sister and the day

16:35

just got away from me. The day got away from

16:37

me. These are the

16:39

people you're going for. These

16:41

are the people you're, they're

16:43

not fundamentalists. They don't want

16:46

things to change all that

16:48

much. That's

16:50

why during the last

16:52

Trump presidency things were erratic. They

16:54

were chaotic. Their families

16:57

were fighting. They

16:59

believed in some of the MAGA things and they,

17:02

but again they were like they didn't

17:05

want to be bad people. Their

17:07

families came and there were fights at the

17:10

den. People weren't coming to Christmas and well

17:12

then why did they buy all that china

17:14

then? If people aren't going to come to

17:16

Christmas over politics well then why the hell

17:18

did they learn how to cook and how

17:20

did they entertain? So the thing that these

17:23

women care about the most which is entertaining

17:25

in their fucking houses is

17:27

being jeopardized by how chaotic the entire

17:29

political situation is. Nobody will come to

17:32

this Christmas war. Why the fuck do

17:34

we live in Newport Beach? If we

17:37

can't show up your brother and sister

17:39

from Ohio why even have this house

17:41

in Newport Beach? Why did I learn

17:44

how to make rosemary oil? I don't,

17:46

I took fresh rosemary and I put it

17:49

with oil. I learned how to make rosemary

17:51

oil to make your your wife's feel like

17:53

shit. Your your brother's wife feel like shit

17:56

because she's a public school teacher and she's beat

17:58

cancer twice and who cares? I

18:00

want to show her that I have rosemary oil, and we

18:02

have a house in Newport Beach, but they don't want to

18:04

come this year. They don't want to

18:07

come this year because I posted that

18:09

thing on Facebook about the Guatemalans, and

18:11

now they think it was ripping people

18:13

apart. So these white women, the key

18:15

to the country, the only swing voter,

18:17

the people that are present, you

18:20

know, at these

18:23

pool and patio types, the

18:25

people that go to jewelry parties, the people

18:27

that, when they hear, ooh, it's

18:30

a gated community? People like that,

18:32

those are the swing voters. Those

18:34

are the swing voters. Those are the

18:37

only people that notice when Biden is so bad,

18:39

when he's babbling, when he's foaming at the mouth,

18:42

when he's basically about to fall down.

18:45

Those are the people that come alive. Those

18:48

are the people you have to say, listen,

18:52

you're not going to be able to get an

18:54

abortion, and I'm

18:56

pro-choice. I think people should get abortions. I think they

18:58

should be allowed to get abortions, not late term, not

19:01

at the 11th hour, but

19:04

I do think that women should be able

19:06

to get abortions, and most people in America

19:08

do. Most people in America do.

19:11

I don't think it should be as,

19:13

I don't think it's a celebrated moral

19:15

victory. I don't think it's an accomplishment in

19:18

the same way that I don't view many things as

19:20

accomplishments that our culture views as an accomplishment. I don't

19:22

think coming out of the closet really is an

19:25

accomplishment. I think owning a Bentley is

19:27

an accomplishment. I don't think sucking

19:29

a cock is an accomplishment. It's a nice thing to

19:31

do, but it's

19:33

not necessarily an accomplishment. Surviving

19:38

is an accomplishment, and whatever you have to do

19:40

to survive is an accomplishment. If you want me

19:42

to pat you on the back, you want me

19:45

to cheer you on or applaud for you, you

19:47

got to do something that really impresses me, and

19:50

it's not sucking a cock, and it's not getting

19:52

an abortion. I think you should be able to

19:54

do both of those things. I

19:56

don't think they should be the two central

19:58

points of your personality. but I

20:01

think they shouldn't be illegal and most

20:03

Americans do agree with me in that

20:05

sense and so does Trump.

20:08

Donald Trump is not a fundamentalist

20:10

Christian. He's reinventing himself as one

20:13

because he needs to. In the

20:16

same way that Putin will start

20:18

talking about the Russian Orthodox Church,

20:20

Putin was a KGB agent. Religion

20:22

was literally banned in the

20:24

Soviet Union. He's not any,

20:26

you know, I think religion's

20:28

got a lot of great things about it, but

20:32

there are people that believe that under no

20:34

circumstances, whether it is a rape, whether it

20:36

is incest, and at one point in my

20:38

favorite part of the debate, Joe Biden said,

20:40

do you have the abortion section where he

20:42

goes, this is my favorite part of the

20:44

debate, Biden goes, there are a lot of

20:46

people right now being

20:48

raped by their brothers and sisters

20:50

and it's just ridiculous and

20:53

it's the funniest sentence I've ever heard

20:56

anyone say, like the idea that by the way

20:58

that's happening all the time and

21:00

it's ridiculous. Let's listen

21:03

to this if we have it. Look,

21:06

there's so many young women who have been,

21:08

including a young woman who just was murdered

21:11

and he went to the funeral. Where

21:13

you going? The idea that she

21:15

was murdered by a by an immigrant

21:18

coming in. They talk about that, but

21:20

here's the deal. There's a lot of

21:22

young women to be raped by their by

21:25

their in-laws, by their by their spouses, brothers

21:28

and sisters, by just

21:30

it's just ridiculous. And he goes, there's

21:32

a lot of young women being raped

21:34

by their spouses, by their in-laws, by

21:37

their brothers and sisters, and it's just ridiculous.

21:40

It's just the funniest comment I've ever heard.

21:42

It was a very off-handed, off-side comment. There's

21:44

a lot of people being raped by their

21:46

brothers and sisters and it's just ridiculous. It's

21:48

like, well no, if we have an epidemic

21:50

of brother-sister rape, it's a

21:52

lot more than ridiculous. And

21:54

I would like to know if that is, and by the

21:57

way I'm not saying it's not happening, but

21:59

I'm I think we had to use another word.

22:03

It's like traffic's ridiculous. God, that

22:05

traffic, that was ridiculous. But

22:08

if a brother is impregnating his sister or

22:10

an in-law, and I know it happened, this

22:13

threat, but it's just funny, this is what

22:15

I mean. He's lost a threat. That

22:17

was the opportunity to hit Trump on the

22:19

abortion ban stuff. That was the opportunity. He

22:22

could have done it. He didn't do it.

22:26

He did not do it. So Trump,

22:28

by the way, just remained presidential, didn't really

22:30

go on the attack, didn't have

22:32

to. Didn't shred him. Didn't

22:35

try to, you know, as

22:38

Frank Underwood, as Kevin Spacey said, now

22:41

it's time to guide him to the rocks.

22:44

That's kind of what Trump did. Trump

22:49

basically was pretty

22:51

diplomatic. Pretty

22:55

diplomatic. He did say that one thing. Biden

22:59

was the one kind of taking the

23:02

low blows. My son's not a loser.

23:04

You're a loser. You have the morals of an

23:06

alley cat, which was funny. Now this is a

23:08

line somebody said, Trump being like, Melania was pregnant.

23:10

Let's watch this. For

23:12

doing a whole range of things, of

23:15

having sex with a porn star on the

23:17

night, while your wife

23:19

was pregnant. I mean, what are you

23:21

talking about? Yeah.

23:26

So he did go after Trump in that

23:28

sense, but Trump remained

23:31

a little presidential by just saying,

23:33

hey, they're going after me

23:35

for political reasons. They can't win. They're

23:38

using the courts. I

23:44

was just in, my friend was at Tiffany's getting

23:46

something for his wife. And

23:48

I was just in Tiffany's in LA. And I never

23:50

go, I have horrible fashion sense. And most people know

23:52

that. It's very kind of you.

23:54

Many people have pointed that out. But

23:57

fashion is not a big deal for me. I do not go to

23:59

Rodeo driver. I just get sunglasses there when I'm

24:01

there. If I ever go there, I get sunglasses. And

24:04

I was in Tiffany's for the first time, and I was

24:07

there. And I was trying

24:09

to buy a handbag

24:12

for my house manager

24:14

who manages my properties. She's a very

24:16

difficult woman, but that's what makes

24:19

her great at her job. She is

24:21

formidable and intense. And

24:24

it is that intensity that allows

24:26

her to thrive

24:29

in her current position. So

24:31

I was going to get her a small handbag there. I was

24:33

just in there with my friend who was getting something for his

24:36

wife. I was not there, and I saw a

24:38

small handbag. And I said, can I ship

24:40

this to my house

24:42

manager, to the woman that is managing

24:45

the renovation I have going on, a

24:47

pool that we hope will be ready

24:49

by 4th of July, where I have

24:51

invited my family. I do think, though,

24:53

I got an invite to the

24:55

Kennedy compound. I don't know if that's true or not, but if

24:57

I did, I will walk

24:59

out of my house and leave

25:01

my family to enjoy the full

25:04

range of features of the property.

25:07

I will absolutely leave them to go

25:09

to the Kennedys, of course. I

25:11

don't know if that's happening or not. But

25:15

the guy comes with this nasty surfer

25:17

guy with long hair and

25:20

lanyards on his wrist. What is

25:22

that? If someone you

25:24

know isn't dead, get it off the wrist. What is it?

25:26

And even if they are, enough. He's

25:28

got the lanyard, and he's got rings. And then

25:30

he comes up to me and he goes, if you want us

25:32

to ship this, like that, we're talking to me like that. Spend

25:36

$2,500 on this dumb bag

25:38

for this woman who we love.

25:41

But he goes, if you want us

25:43

to ship this, you've got to fill this out. And

25:45

he hands me a computer. I'd say, no, no, no, I don't work here.

25:48

I wrote her address on a card.

25:50

You fill it out. And

25:53

then they took so long, I had to just leave. Because they literally,

25:56

I said, I'm at a time crunch. I warned them multiple times. I

25:58

had to leave. It'll

26:01

never be popular to say this right now and

26:03

I know people aren't gonna like it and I

26:05

don't care and I don't give a fuck folks

26:07

and I don't care how it looks and I

26:09

don't. I have never seen, I have never

26:11

seen in all my years I've

26:13

been broke, I've had a little more,

26:15

I've had a little less, it's not

26:18

about money, it's not about any of

26:20

it. I have never seen the complete

26:25

disregard for

26:28

people's jobs in

26:31

retail. They

26:34

are nasty, they're vicious,

26:37

they're crazy. They're,

26:40

you walk into a store and

26:43

it doesn't matter who you are, they

26:45

don't care. Meaning

26:47

whether you're buying a lot of shit

26:50

or a little bit you're gonna be

26:52

treated horribly. Why

26:55

is this allowed? This

26:57

is an aside from the debate in our analysis

26:59

but it might tie in, but it might tie

27:01

in. Why are people

27:03

now acting like you've done the

27:06

wrong thing when you walk into their

27:08

store? Because every

27:10

store you walk in now, by

27:12

the way everyone when you walk in the

27:14

store if it's a nice store, the guards

27:16

stand at the door like you're about

27:18

to go in there with a machete. I

27:21

understand there's been crime but there's

27:23

got to be a little bit of a

27:25

happy medium between laissez-faire, come

27:28

in and rape us and let's treat

27:30

every single person who walks in here

27:32

like they're a violent street

27:34

thug criminal, okay?

27:38

And they're looking at me and

27:40

they have this look in their eye and the

27:42

minute and you and some of them are nice. One

27:44

of the ladies who's a

27:46

nice woman, a brain-dead woman, she

27:51

goes where'd you guys come in from? I said oh

27:53

we're in it, we're at Malibu. I love, I like

27:55

Malibu one day I was on the beach and

27:58

I saw a whale and my friend

28:00

said whales don't come this close

28:02

to the shore. And I said

28:04

they do. And it was the

28:06

whale. And I saw a whale. It's

28:09

so relaxing to sit on the beach

28:11

and look at all whale. So

28:14

you run the you have complete brain

28:16

dead, complete brain dead,

28:18

like traumatized, like the people you

28:20

bump into now in any retail

28:22

environment have been like, completely like,

28:25

like MK ultra, like

28:27

repeatedly raped in a room

28:30

and tied to a bed to

28:32

where they have disassociated and they're like, hi,

28:35

are you are you in town

28:37

for work? Or for

28:39

pleasure? Are you and completely

28:42

not in their own body.

28:44

And then you have people that are just

28:46

angry and frustrated that you've walked in

28:49

and they're hostile. If you

28:51

want us to ship this, you have no,

28:53

I don't know. I don't you fill it

28:55

out. Let me pay for it. And let

28:57

me leave. And then you can take all the time you

28:59

want. Just let me pay for it. Let me leave. Why?

29:02

Why? And I understand maybe, maybe

29:04

it's that they're not being paid.

29:08

Maybe it's the people in retail are not being

29:10

paid right now. And my

29:12

heart goes out to them. If that's the case,

29:14

it probably is the case. I

29:17

understand the way corporations abuse

29:20

their employees. I'm not for that.

29:25

Maybe it's because none of these people are in

29:27

unions. Maybe these people are miserable. What

29:34

is Tiffany's pay these people? Probably

29:36

$20 an hour. Shut up. Then

29:40

be good. And be good.

29:42

Then that's not

29:44

a lot. I understand

29:46

you work at Tiffany's you deal with all these

29:48

rich fucks that have all this money and it

29:50

makes you hate them and

29:52

it makes you angry and it fills you with

29:54

rage. But I'm not one

29:56

of those people. I'm just trying to buy a

29:59

small bag. for my house manager,

30:01

who herself likes logos.

30:06

She wants, when

30:08

I bought her her first thing, I get

30:10

gifts for people. I went to

30:12

Dior and I said, the woman showed me a

30:14

pocketbook. I said, this is very classy. She said,

30:16

this is very understated. I said, give me the

30:18

most disgusting thing you have with

30:21

the logo right out on the

30:23

bag. Is that what I got? Do

30:25

you remember what I got for her? This is it, yeah. Do

30:28

you see how disgusting that is? The logo's on

30:30

the bag. I said, she's from Queens. The logo

30:32

must be on the bag. It

30:34

does her no good to have something that people

30:36

don't know what it is. They need to know

30:39

how disgusting it is. So

30:43

this was a nice little Tiffany bag and

30:45

it says, please return to Tiffany's New York.

30:47

It was heinous, heinous, disgusting,

30:50

grotesque. But

30:54

it fit perfectly because the person I was giving

30:56

it to was going to appreciate the logo

31:00

loud in your face. Perfect.

31:06

It was working perfectly until

31:08

the employees just, again,

31:12

I know

31:15

the Scott, I don't know that Scott Sice kid. He's

31:17

a funny guy. And I know he's in that cocaine

31:19

bear movie. He did all these really funny things about

31:22

how everyone that goes into a retail

31:24

environment is some type of monster. And

31:27

like, I get it. And I get that that's

31:29

fashionable. And he's maybe

31:31

not altogether wrong. But at

31:34

the end of the day, everybody

31:36

has the job. I've had jobs I hate. I've

31:40

had jobs I hated. And I

31:42

wasn't graded them. I understand that.

31:44

When I was a tour guide, I

31:47

sat on my tour bus and sometimes I barely

31:49

gave the tour. A Russian woman once punched me in

31:51

the stomach. She walked up and

31:53

she said, I paid for the tour. I said, listen to the tour

31:56

on the headphones. And she punched

31:58

me in the stomach. This very poor Russian. A

32:00

lot of them are poor, and she came in

32:02

February and it was freezing because that's the only

32:04

time they could afford to visit because the prices

32:07

were so low in New York of the

32:09

hotels and the flights. And she

32:11

was there and she was freezing. And

32:13

she was angry and she punched me in the stomach.

32:16

I get it. I get what

32:18

it means to hate your job and to be

32:20

bad at it. I'm not

32:22

claiming any moral superiority here. But

32:26

I'll say this. I

32:29

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32:38

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32:40

you know, I didn't think that

32:42

I deserved more. I

32:45

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32:47

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32:49

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32:54

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32:56

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33:01

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33:03

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33:05

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You want to pop up? We'll pop

42:10

up anywhere. You don't know where we

42:13

happen to be, but there's pop-ups. We'll

42:15

pop right up. Come on in, buy a candle.

42:18

You know what the candle smells like? The store you're

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in. It smells like that. So

42:22

when you're at home, you can smell what

42:25

it feels like to be in Nordstrom's. Don't

42:27

you sit at home and go, I wish

42:29

I was in Nordstrom's, but it's 2 a.m.

42:31

and I'm up eating, I'm binge eating, and

42:33

I'm sitting in my kitchen wondering if I'm

42:35

having gas or a heart attack. Wouldn't it

42:37

be nicer to smell like you're in a

42:40

Nordstrom's? Our entire culture is

42:42

based around the idea that buying things

42:44

makes you happy and it gives your

42:46

life meaning. That's our entire culture. Don't

42:49

yell at me. I didn't do it,

42:51

but that's all it is. So

42:54

why in God's name would we

42:56

not? That should be the religion.

42:58

You should walk into Bergdorf

43:00

Goodman or Tiffany or Louis Vuitton

43:03

and you should get the

43:05

feeling that people have when

43:07

they walk into St. Patrick's Cathedral

43:09

for midnight mass because

43:12

the Savior has been born and the Savior should

43:14

be a decent looking person

43:17

who is your best friend for that hour

43:19

and they should guide you around the store

43:21

and make you feel good while

43:24

you shop. They should not make you

43:26

fill out forms. It's not the DMV.

43:28

It's not immigration. I am a citizen.

43:30

I don't want to fill out forms.

43:32

I want you to guide me through

43:34

this. I want you to get me

43:36

a bag for my house manager. She

43:39

doesn't have a family. Neither do I.

43:41

All we're trying to do here

43:43

is show our appreciation for our friends,

43:45

the people that we've adopted into our

43:47

lives. I

43:50

don't understand why it's not easier.

43:52

I don't understand why the one

43:54

thing that we've shown that we

43:56

can do and we can do well has

43:59

cratered. Pay them more, give

44:01

them drugs, I don't know what to

44:03

do. Let them drink at work. Whatever

44:06

needs to happen here, needs to, we

44:08

need to turn this thing around.

44:11

I'm sick of looking at a

44:13

middle-aged divorcee who

44:15

hates her life and hates me,

44:18

because I look like the fat idiot who

44:20

cheated on her and is

44:22

taking that out on me.

44:24

I don't want it anymore. And I don't

44:27

know, now I understand that tech eats all.

44:31

And the internet has

44:33

eaten everything, and people now just

44:35

buy things. The

44:38

perception that malls have suffered is rooted

44:40

in truth. Many malls and stores have

44:42

closed in recent decades. As

44:45

Aleksandra Lang, an architecture critic, and the author of

44:47

Meet Me By The Fountain, an inside history of

44:50

the mall, explained to me in an email, the

44:53

ebb and flow of retail is much more visible to

44:55

the general public than any other type of business. So

44:58

people pay attention earlier in the down cycle

45:00

of a mall's trajectory. Plus, as Mercer put

45:02

it, it's more dramatic to see a mall

45:04

closing than thriving. Malls

45:09

were starting to go out when I

45:11

was there. But I'm telling you

45:13

right now, the inability

45:16

of these companies to

45:18

pay people or to make

45:20

them excited about their jobs, I don't know how to

45:22

do this. I'm not gonna pretend to be an expert.

45:26

But it's the one thing that we do well

45:28

as a country. Madison

45:30

Avenue, Rodeo Drive, these places

45:32

should be holy. Because

45:35

by the way, it's not only rich people, it's

45:37

the couple from Ohio, they just wanna feel something.

45:42

My friend got his wife's earrings, he wants

45:44

to feel something. This is

45:46

special for him, this is not an everyday

45:48

thing. He's not gonna send his assistant to

45:50

go pick up some earrings for his wife.

45:54

He wants to feel something, make him feel

45:56

like a man. Make him feel

45:58

like a man. Say

46:02

to me, good, isn't this nice you're buying this

46:04

bag for your house manager? Isn't that nice, man,

46:07

I wish I had a boss like you. That's

46:10

what they should have said. She should have turned

46:12

around and said, man, I wish I had a

46:14

boss like you. You're more of a humanitarian people.

46:17

Like you don't exist anymore, sir. I'll

46:20

fill out all this myself. Let me get

46:22

your card. Let me make you pay for

46:24

this. And we'll get it to that woman

46:26

because people like you, sir, you're

46:29

going out there doing good deeds. Let me

46:31

not interrupt and impede your next good deed.

46:34

You're screwed. You after these been visited by

46:36

the ghosts, you're a

46:39

fucking legend, sir. You're a

46:41

fucking look at this legend

46:43

alert. They should have started

46:45

screaming. What about song? What

46:47

if they all broke in

46:49

a song? He's getting his

46:51

house manager a bag. This

46:53

fat man is selfless. This

46:56

fat man is selfless. He

46:58

could spend this on veal

47:01

or, uh, some type of

47:03

baguette, but he's getting his

47:05

house manager a bag, but

47:08

they didn't do it. They were mean to me.

47:11

They were mean to me. The

47:13

people at the Tiffany's on Rodeo

47:15

drive were mean to me because

47:18

I'm fat. And they knew my

47:20

house manager as well as a

47:22

little fat. And they were, they

47:24

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