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Hi, thanks for listening to the
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right place. Bad news and good
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news. The bad news is... 91% of all
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of us will get
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a PTSD-inducing traumatic event
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at least once in our
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life. PTSD is the
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top level of trauma,
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okay, where you suffer
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post-traumatic stress disorders, right?
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Good news is, 93%
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would recover within three
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months, 96.7% would recover
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within... six months. These are data
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from the people that were in the
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9-11 attacks. The next person we have
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is Sajinai is one of our favorite people
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and we only got to know him
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about a year ago, but we really
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found love with this man. And the
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reason is because most of us have
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some idea of what the worst experience
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could possibly be. The experience that we
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couldn't come back from or people wouldn't
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come back from and some don't in
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these situations. In fact, some of you
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have heard, you know, you're familiar with
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some of you, I've told you about
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it, but others, if you haven't, I
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just want to give you an example
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and I've heard it before, remind you
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of it. So if I asked you,
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what would be the worst thing you
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could ever happen in life, the number
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one answer in North America for
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people say is if they became
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a quadripleg. And if they asked them,
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what's the best thing that have won
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the lottery? and studies on people
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that have become quadriplegics. And
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the question is, three years after that
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experience, whether you lost the use of
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all your limbs or you won the
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lottery, who is happier? Who is happier? What's
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kind of a setup? You immediately
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go, it must be the quadriplegic.
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Hell no, the quadriplegic. happy,
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what are you thinking of yourself?
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Nor was the person who won
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the lottery. Because what happens is
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our brains adjust. If you don't
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drug the person who went to
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the quadripleg, if they are able
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to mean their natural system, we
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have a natural happiness immune system,
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we adjust. Most people have a
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set point for their happiness
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and they get back to it. It's interesting
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that people, the lottery, now everybody wants something
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from you. You know what it's like when
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you really, how many of how did something
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you wanted to give somebody, and then you
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find out they expect it or demand it,
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and it took away all the joy. Who
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knows what I'm talking about here, right? Well,
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imagine, well, all of a sudden, everybody wants
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something from you who didn't really care before.
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And those people now start to feel jaded and
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angry. And the people who can't move, what's interesting
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about them if they start to move their finger
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this much for the first time, they get over
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the first time, they get overjoyed. They get overjoyed.
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They get overjoyed. Contrast is the
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most powerful tool I know to keep
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you balanced on your happiness. So that's
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why I brought you here, where you'll be
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in total absolute abundance at every level,
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and then we'll take you to a
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portion of India that's 4,000 years old
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where people go to die and who
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are joyous about dying. Because they have
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a different belief than we do. They have
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a completely different belief. They
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believe the body is the t-shirt. You
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burn that t-shirt, they burn bodies all day
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long there, as you'll see, 24 hours a
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day, 365 days a year, and the people
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there are joyous. There's no tears,
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there's no upset. So our beliefs play
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such a role. It's why we say,
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and it's over there on the notes
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again, is that suffering is not in
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the fact, right? It's in our perception of
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the fact. It's our belief about how it's
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supposed to be, how it isn't, that this
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person shouldn't have died. This shouldn't have happened
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this way. My child shouldn't be going through
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this. I shouldn't be having this health problem.
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But you are, and they are. And so that's life.
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And so what it is, is now we got to
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deal with life instead of our perceptions. That's
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how you get out of suffering. And so this man
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is me. It was an engineer, is
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really a genius at what he
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does, but he's also got a
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heart of gold and he experienced
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something none of us would ever
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want to go through, but he's
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turned that around and still demonstrated
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how happiness is not contingent upon
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the environment whatsoever. Please stand up
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and give a big welcome to
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our dear friend, Mo Gawat, give
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it up for him. Thank you.
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I counted 25 hugs so
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far so that this evening
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is great already. I will
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start with a disclaimer. I
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will make mistakes as I
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speak because I actually know
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specifically that when I'm sleep
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deprived or jet-lagged, I am
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both. My speech processor breaks.
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So I will have all
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the right intentions to say
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the right things, but occasionally
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the word peacock, or I
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don't know, whatever will come
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out, okay? So please ignore
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that or highlight it to
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me. I took 18 hours
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to Bresbon and then stayed
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18 hours in Australia and
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then 18 hours back, showered
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and jumped here because I
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absolutely believe this is totally
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worth it. I had... Thank
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you. I love... I love
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Sage and Tony more than
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I can tell you. I
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love a lot of you
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who I met in Mexico.
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Thank you so much for
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the warm welcome again. Today
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I want to talk about
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a slightly different topic, which,
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by the way, what I
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spoke about in Mexico, Tony
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and Sage put on a
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podcast, so please do listen
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to it about happiness. I
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want to talk about stress.
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So, you know, things like
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18 hours and 18 hours
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back, yeah, I do that
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shit. So, but I also
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have, I'm among families, so
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I'll share a little bit.
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This has no doubt been
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the toughest year of my
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life, hands down. January, my
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sister-in-law, who truly is the
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dearest person. She's my sister.
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We were three brothers, and
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she came into my life
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when I was around 15,
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and I truly considered her
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my sister. She was in
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the room with my brother
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who was recovering from a
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very serious cancer. And there
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was a bit of a...
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Anyway, because of the stress,
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she had a cardiac arrest
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and we lost her. All
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of a sudden. And of
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course, as you can imagine,
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the stress on him, even
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though he had recovered his
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cancer, two months later he
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left. And then as the
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stress of them leaving affected
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my mom, two months later
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she left. And I have
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to tell you openly, I
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never expected that losing my
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mom will affect me that
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much. I mean, she was
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84, we had a wonderful
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life together, she was a
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freaking genius, that woman, she
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was a force of nature.
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And for some reason... I
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felt a mega emptiness in my
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life, I really did, which has
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really, if you know my work
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and you know how I practice
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what I preach, I really had
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to stop. Actually, she left right
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before we published the book Unstressable.
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So I had to go and
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be in the tour of the
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book tour, the book, made it
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to number four, so it was
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worthwhile and it comes with a
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very important mission to take a
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million people out of stress every
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year. But then I had to
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retreat. I retreated for 40 days.
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I do that every summer of
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silence. and I reflected
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on a lot of things. I
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have to say to you openly,
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our world is in a lot of
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stress. I mean, you know, I tell
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you my story, but there
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are so many people around
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the world who are today
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in war zones, right, who
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will lose three loved ones in
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a year. right, may even lose
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more. There are so many people
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who are struggling with an economic
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crisis that's crushing a lot of
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people around the world. There are
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so many people, you know, already
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starting to lose their jobs because
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of artificial intelligence or other things.
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You know, it is, it's a
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very stressful time in our life.
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And I will openly tell you,
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even though definitely my
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heart was very badly scarred with
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this year, And even though sometimes
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I feel depleted, I'm not
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stressed. Okay? And I will
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openly tell you that every single
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one can live that way. And,
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you know, it's quite interesting
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that stress is different. Being
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exposed to a stressor is
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different than actually being
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stressed. So I want to
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talk to you very quickly so that
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we have a lot of time for
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questions about a model I call the
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3434. Right? Your three accountabilities,
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the four sources of stress,
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the three reasons we break,
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and the four modalities in
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which we interact with stress. So
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I'll take you through them one
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by one, but very quickly I'll
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tell you that I never intended
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to write on stress. My one
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billion happy mission was about the
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idea of I will write about
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happiness, and then I will write
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about all of the different reasons
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we become unhappy. Right? So my
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second book was called That Little
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Voice in Your Head, which was
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about how your mind fools you
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if you want. I was then
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intending... to write about empowering
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the feminine, which I think is
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one of the biggest reasons for
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cumulative unhappiness in the world, is
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that we have been very unfair
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to the feminine. And I wrote
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the book almost entirely 187 pages
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were written, and then I decided
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to write on stress, because I
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met this wonderful young author from
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the UK, Alice Law, who had
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actually struggled with every possible sample
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of what a stressor could be
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when she was 21. And Alice
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and I are very different. Alice
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is very soft, very nurturing, very
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feminine if you want. And I
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am, as you, some of you
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may know, I'm a brainiac. You
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know, I'm a very serious mass
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geek. Don't be fooled by the
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fact that I can speak full
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sentences. But in all honesty, I
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actually truly truly and honestly see
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the world in numbers, and it's
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really weird. I found a way
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to translate that into English, but
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that's not how I see the
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world at all. And so Alice
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said, let's write about stress, I
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said I need to figure that
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thing out first. I need to
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understand. I'm usually that calm person
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that could be drained, but is
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not stressed. My reputation at Google
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was that I'm the one to
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go to when things are very,
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very, very stressful. But I didn't
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know how I did it. So
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anyway, the first thing I did
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is I said, okay, let me
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understand the mathematics, the algorithm of
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stress. And she said, there isn't
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one, and I said, there must
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be one. And it's actually shocking
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how simple it is. When you
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want to think about stress, the
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easiest place to understand it is
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in physics. Even if you don't
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like physics, you may remember in
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elementary physics that stress on an
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object. was the force applied on
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the object divided by the cross
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section, the area of the cross
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section of the object, right? It's
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not that complicated, you know, and
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here in the Middle East, when
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they taught us that, they said
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that's why the camel doesn't sink
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in... the sand, right? Because the
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camel has very big hooves, the
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one-ton weight is distributed across the
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hooves so it doesn't sink in
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the sand because the stress on
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the sand is not very high.
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I realized later in life that
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this wouldn't have been a very
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valid example in other countries. But
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anyway, we got it, right? So
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the idea is in objects, okay,
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stress is the force divided by
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the square area. In humans, stress
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is the external challenge divided by
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your square area, by your resources,
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your abilities, your skills, your connections,
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right? Which actually is quite interesting.
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So it's mathematical. The stress that
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you feel is... Not just the
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stressor, it's the stressor divided by
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the resources you have to deal
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with it. And it doesn't require
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mass to understand this. You can
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easily understand it because things that
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freaked me out when I was
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20, I managed to deal with
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when I was 30, I dealt
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with with ease in my 40s
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and then in my 50s I
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love about them. Right? And you
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know, Jason, for example, as a
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CEO, the more you become a
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CEO, the more you start to...
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respond to things differently, okay? And
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so on. And so it's actually
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valid, huh? That the more skills,
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the more square area you have,
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the more you become capable of
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dealing with the external stressors. But
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that equation gives you, once you
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have an algorithm, you can easily
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understand how things work, how the
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machine works. But the number one
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thing to underline from that mathematical
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side of it is, you're accountable.
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Listen to that, huh? So while
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the stressors may not always be
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within your control, the square area
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is within your control. You're actually
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accountable, huh? It's not the events
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of your life that stress you.
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It's the way you deal with
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them that does. So
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let's remember that. It's not
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the event of your life
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that stress you, it's the way
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you deal with them, that actually
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turn the challenge into stress.
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The same challenge could be
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taken without the stress. So
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when it comes to accountability,
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I'll start with the first
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three. Which in the book we
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call the three Ls. The three,
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your three accountability, which are three
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Ls, which are three Ls. Learn.
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limit and listen. Okay?
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Learn is very obvious. Learn
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is what is the
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square area. It's the
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denominator of the equation.
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If you grow the
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denominator, your ability to deal
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with the stress increases and
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so your feelings of stress
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decrease. So we're going to
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talk about a lot of
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learning, but the first thing
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to say is... do not
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assume that stress has to
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happen, okay? Assume that if
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you can actually learn the
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skills, you're going to take
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the stress away. Now, let's talk
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about the numerator, right? The number
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of stressors that come into
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your life. And it's quite
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interesting, because when you really
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think about the stressors that
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come into our life, they're not
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all from outside you. Do you
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realize that? So some things
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happen outside you and a
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lot of things happen inside
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you, triggered by things outside
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but they happen inside you.
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Also not all of them are
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big enough to break you. So
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some are major and some are
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minor. So if you can
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imagine a four quadrant chart,
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minor and major stressors. in
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outside and inside you,
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triggering from outside or
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from inside you, you'll
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find four quadrants
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that we term as ton of
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stress, T-O-N-N, okay? T. is major
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stress coming from outside you, which
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is trauma, right? O is major
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stress coming from inside you, which
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is obsession. Obsession are those beliefs,
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those scripts that you tell yourself,
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that you will obsess about for
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years after years after years, and
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that will eventually get you, right?
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The first N is happening from
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within you, but it is... You
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know, a small thing like me
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walking out of the door, looking
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at the window, at the mirror
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and going like little belly. No,
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no little belly, right? And we
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do that all the time. It's
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just those little nagging comments that
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you give yourself all the time.
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None of them will really break
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you, but they're noise. That N
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is called noise. Okay? And then
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finally, there are nuisances. A nuisances
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are stressors that are sub-trauma. They're
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not big enough to break you,
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right? But there are so many
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of them. So many of them,
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starting from your, you know, alarm
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in the morning, jolting you out
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of bed with, you know, with
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a massive noise, all the way
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to a relationship that you need
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to break up from or you
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need to fix or whatever. Okay?
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When you think about T-O-N-N, trauma,
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I'll come back to it and
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talk about it in a minute,
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but trauma is not within our
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control. Right? The others, interestingly, are,
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we are accountable. Okay? Because obsessions
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and nuisances happen within you, there
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are techniques we can remove those.
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And because the noise is actually
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quite easy to limit. Right? So
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remember the three accountabilities were learn,
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limit, and listen. Your accountability is
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called limit. This is actually something
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I'd love for you to do
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before the end of this trip.
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Okay? I'd love you to... Take
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a paper, write down everything that
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stressed you that can come to
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your mind in the last month.
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A comment from a friend, a
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social media post, something happened at
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work, your partner said something, everything.
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Write every one of them down,
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everything, everything that stressed you. Okay?
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And then we're going to limit
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them in one of two techniques.
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Either you're going to scratch them
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out completely and say, this is
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never going to happen in my
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life again. I don't like that
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friend, I'm going to tell them
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I don't want them in my
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life, or social media is killing
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me when it goes beyond 30
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minutes, I'm not going to go
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beyond 30 minutes, and so on.
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Or if it's something you cannot
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change, you're going to reduce its
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intensity. So if you have a
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commute that is 50 minutes going
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and get 50 minutes back every
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day, and you have to take
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that commute, you can either take
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it at a different time, so
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it becomes 30 minutes. Or you
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can take it as 50 minutes,
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but make the best cup of
19:11
coffee and listen to good music.
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And then you're limiting your exposure
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to stress. Now, I'll talk about
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the obsessions and then usances, because
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you can limit those as well,
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especially the noise. Especially the noise.
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To limit the noise is simply
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an observation of, why am I
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talking to myself this way? and
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removing the things that hurt from
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the language that you use. But
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I'll talk about those because they
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come from within us a little
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later in my conversation. So we
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spoke about two of the three
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accountabilities, learn and listen, sorry, learn
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and limit. We spoke about the
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four sources of stress, which are
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the T-O-N-N. Now let's talk about
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the biggest myths about stress, right?
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You heard Tony say a bit
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of stress works for you, a
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lot of it works against you.
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Stress within context is good. stress
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out of context is not right
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now this is really important to
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understand why because everyone here is
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a successful business person right as
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a successful person it means that
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you have you know approached life
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with courage with perseverance and you
20:25
did something which basically means that
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by definition you faced some stressors
20:30
in life okay When you learn
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about how to face those things,
20:35
you normally get that guy on
20:37
the cover of Harvard Business Review,
20:39
striped suit, dark, red tie, people
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perform their best when they're stressed.
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And I usually looked at this
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and I was like, in my
20:49
younger career, I was like, yeah,
20:51
let's stress the hell out of
20:54
them. Right? And then I was
20:56
like, this is actually stupid. I
20:58
actually... Honestly, I believe that people
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perform their best when they are
21:03
in flow, when they're working better
21:06
in teams, when they are taking
21:08
care of their health and well-being,
21:10
when they are creative. I mean,
21:13
of course, if it's Charlie Shapplin,
21:15
remember that movie, when he was
21:17
on the production line and they
21:20
moved the production line faster, right?
21:22
You know, it's basically if your
21:25
people are gears in a machine...
21:27
A little bit of stress increases
21:29
5%. If you are a gear
21:32
in a machine, a little bit
21:34
of stress increases 5%. But if
21:37
the task is anything other than
21:39
being a gear in a machine,
21:41
then stress is definitely not the
21:44
best way you can perform. Now,
21:46
stress is the best way to
21:48
perform within context. And the context
21:51
is the following. The biological machinery
21:53
of stress was a bit like
21:56
the hulk. Did you see the
21:58
movie? Right? Yeah, you get in
22:00
a certain situation that... pumps enough
22:03
cortisole in your blood so that
22:05
you reconfigure the machine theoretically
22:08
to run away from a tiger.
22:11
In the modern world, when
22:13
was the last time you
22:15
were attacked by a tiger? Never,
22:17
right? It's normally an
22:19
email. Correct, right? And
22:22
so the problem is,
22:24
the machinery works. The same
22:26
machinery works, you get cortisole
22:28
in your blood, you're in fight
22:30
or flight mode, right? But
22:33
it's completely out of context.
22:35
The more interesting side of this
22:37
is what I call the 90
22:39
seconds rule. So stress, even when
22:41
it was a tiger, basically happens
22:43
in your amygdala, it's completely unconscious,
22:46
right? You don't even have time
22:48
to think, you jump out of
22:50
your seat, you start to run,
22:52
right? Within 90 seconds, this
22:54
is the work of Gilbalti
22:56
Taylor, one of my favorite
22:58
neuroscientists, within 90 seconds the
23:00
cortisole is flushed out of
23:02
your system completely. And that's
23:05
when you call on your
23:07
prefrontal cortex on your rational
23:09
brain for your rational brain
23:11
to actually suspect if there is a
23:13
tiger or not, if there is a
23:16
threat or not. And then if there
23:18
is, you renew the lease for another
23:20
90 seconds. and another 90 seconds, and
23:22
another 90 seconds. So if you've
23:25
been stressed for the last 90 days,
23:27
you need to start asking yourself how
23:29
many times have you renewed the lease,
23:31
right? And the problem, of course, is
23:34
out of context. When you look back
23:36
at the email with your rational brain,
23:38
the email is still there, right?
23:40
And so we stress ourselves over
23:42
and over again. But I will go
23:45
again and say a bit of stress
23:47
works. I have a presentation on Thursday.
23:49
it's good for me to respond
23:51
to that with a little bit
23:54
of stress so that I perform
23:56
my best, right? However, used
23:58
out of context, stress will
24:00
break you. And it will break
24:02
you in three different ways. One
24:05
is what we spoke about, called
24:07
trauma, capital T trauma, okay? Losing
24:09
a loved one, losing my mom,
24:11
does break me, right? You know,
24:14
being in an accident, being in
24:16
a war zone, whatever. Big, big,
24:18
big events. Trauma is a massive
24:20
amount of stress in a very
24:23
short period of time that exceeds
24:25
your ability as an object if
24:27
you want to carry the load.
24:29
Right? Bad news and good news.
24:32
The bad news is 91% of
24:34
all of us will get a
24:36
PTSD-inducing traumatic event at least once
24:38
in our life. PTSD is the
24:41
top level of trauma. Okay? Where
24:43
you suffer post-traumatic stress disorders. Right?
24:45
Good news is, 93% would recover
24:47
within three months. 96.7% would recover
24:49
within... six months. These are data
24:52
from the people that were in
24:54
the 9-11 attacks. Okay? In the
24:56
9, they were in that zone,
24:58
okay? And 93% recovered within three
25:01
months. What does that mean? It
25:03
means that while trauma will almost
25:05
certainly break you, okay? you'll get
25:07
put back together and for most
25:10
of us we will actually enjoy
25:12
post-traumatic growth. So in an interesting
25:14
way trauma is not the reason
25:16
for the pandemic of stress that
25:19
we have in our lives today.
25:21
The reason are the other two
25:23
breaking points if you want. There
25:25
are other breaking points but these
25:28
I think are the most important.
25:30
One is burnout, okay, and the
25:32
other is what I call the
25:34
anticipation of a threat. Let's talk
25:36
about them quickly. Burnout mathematically, if
25:39
you want, is when the sum
25:41
of all the stressors multiplied by
25:43
the the intensity of each of
25:45
them multiplied by the duration of
25:48
its application multiplied by the frequency
25:50
of its application exceeds your ability
25:52
to carry the load. So it's
25:54
not one big stressor, okay? It's
25:57
a million little stressors and you
25:59
add them all up and then
26:01
if the load is too much
26:03
you break. Okay? Now, again, that
26:06
goes back to your second accountability,
26:08
which is... limit. Remove the stressors
26:10
that you don't need to deal
26:12
with. Okay? Completely within your hands,
26:15
by the way. And as I
26:17
said, when you write that list,
26:19
there will be some big decisions.
26:21
Okay? Jane is annoying you. Jane
26:23
goes. Okay? It's as simple as
26:26
that. Right? Any jains here? No
26:28
jains. Great, right? Pick the right
26:30
name. One. Anyway, I'm very serious,
26:32
huh? So there are big decisions.
26:35
There are decisions that you have
26:37
to make if you want to
26:39
live a stress-free life. Now, the
26:41
second reason we break, by the
26:44
way, when we get to burnout,
26:46
we break because of a very
26:48
unexpected reason. You know, your partner
26:50
wakes up and goes like, hey
26:53
baby, good morning, and you go
26:55
like, don't good morning me, like
26:57
I don't want to hear it.
26:59
Right? Because you're so stressed with
27:02
everything else, it's just that one
27:04
little lost straw. The other one
27:06
is quite interesting. I call it
27:08
the anticipation of a threat. So
27:11
remember, cortisole is pumped into your
27:13
blood because there is a tiger.
27:15
In the modern world, we create
27:17
the tiger in our heads. There
27:19
is going to be a tiger.
27:22
And a tiger means that the
27:24
moment where the tiger shows up...
27:26
is less safe than this moment
27:28
right now. Do you understand that?
27:31
So it's quite interesting, most emotions
27:33
are actually algorithms. as well. There
27:35
is a logic behind them. A
27:37
moment in the future, less safe
27:40
than now, what do you feel?
27:42
You feel fear. And a typical
27:44
human response to fear is, how
27:46
am I going to deal with
27:49
the threat? So if you're afraid
27:51
of something in the future and
27:53
you start to work on the
27:55
threat, you're okay, you're not stressed.
27:58
As a matter of fact, when
28:00
you're working on dealing with the
28:02
threat or the anticipated threat, you're
28:04
engaged and you're probably not feeling
28:06
the stress, you're feeling the energy.
28:09
The other three derivatives of fear
28:11
are what breaks us. One of
28:13
them is worry, the other is
28:15
anxiety, and the third is panic.
28:18
And the reason they break us
28:20
is because we deal with them
28:22
as if they were fear, when
28:24
they're not. We deal with them
28:27
as if we know there is
28:29
a threat. Worry is not that
28:31
I know a moment in the
28:33
future is less safe. Worry is,
28:36
I'm not sure if a moment
28:38
in the future is less safe
28:40
or not. Okay, I'm not sure
28:42
if presidential candidate A or B
28:45
is going to be You know
28:47
chosen and I'm afraid that if
28:49
that one is chosen I'm going
28:51
to be in a bad place
28:53
You know worry is I'm not
28:56
sure if I'm going to lose
28:58
my job or not if I
29:00
lose it I need if I
29:02
know I'm going to act in
29:05
a certain way if I don't
29:07
I need to act in a
29:09
different way Right and the problem
29:11
with worry is when you treat
29:14
it like fear Okay Then you
29:16
take a couple of steps and
29:18
then you tell yourself, ah, there's
29:20
nothing to be afraid of and
29:23
then you take a couple of
29:25
steps back and then, oh my
29:27
god, I'm afraid. So the answer
29:29
to worry is not to treat
29:32
it as fear, not to look
29:34
at the reason that you're afraid.
29:36
The answer to worry is to
29:38
make up your mind. Should I
29:40
freak out or should I chill?
29:43
Right? If you freak out, then
29:45
treat it like fear. If you're
29:47
supposed to chill, then don't even
29:49
look at it, drop it, drop
29:52
it altogether. Anxiety in my view
29:54
is the biggest reason for stress
29:56
in today's world and anxiety is...
29:58
the result not of a threat
30:01
in the future, anxiety is the
30:03
result of you reviewing your own
30:05
capabilities and deciding that I am
30:07
not equipped to deal with the
30:10
threat. Okay? And so the more you
30:12
try to deal with the threat, the
30:14
more you start to get faced
30:16
with the reality that you're not
30:18
qualified, the more anxious you become,
30:20
and so the cycle continues. So
30:22
the worst thing you can do
30:24
when you're anxious is to try
30:26
to solve the problem. When you're
30:29
anxious, you're supposed to work
30:31
on your skills. Or on
30:33
getting somebody who has the skills
30:35
to come and partner with you,
30:38
so that you basically have enough
30:40
skills to attend to the
30:42
threat. If you treat it
30:44
like fear, you're more anxious.
30:46
If you treat it like
30:48
anxiety, you can actually work
30:50
on yourself. Finally, panic is
30:52
the threat is imminent. The closer
30:55
you get to the threat, the more
30:57
you panic. If you're running out
30:59
of time, you panic. And so accordingly,
31:01
again, if you treat it like fear,
31:04
you suddenly get faced with, I'm running
31:06
out of time, I'm not going to
31:08
be able to do this, so you
31:10
get more panicked and so, and the
31:13
cycle continues. When you panic, what you
31:15
need to work on is time.
31:17
cancel other things, give yourself more
31:19
time to deal with this, get
31:21
someone to help you so that
31:23
you can actually have double the
31:26
time, you know, call the person
31:28
that's expecting something from you and
31:30
tell them that you need a
31:32
little bit more time presentation,
31:35
one o'clock instead of 11am.
31:37
Okay? So these are the reasons we
31:39
break. When we then
31:42
are approaching those areas
31:44
in our lives when
31:46
we're supposed to break,
31:48
the last four of
31:50
the model, so remember
31:53
we said three accountabilities
31:55
limit, learn limit listen,
31:57
four sources, a ton of...
32:00
stress, three reasons we break, trauma,
32:02
burnout, and anticipation of a threat.
32:04
And then finally, the last of
32:07
your accountabilities is listen, and listen
32:09
is really the result of how
32:11
stress is manifested in you. Okay?
32:13
And I, I, I, I, I,
32:16
I realize that and it shocked
32:18
us that stress is normally discussed
32:20
as one big topic. I am
32:23
stressed. Okay, but you get stressed
32:25
in four different modalities. Okay? You
32:27
can get mentally stressed, emotionally stressed,
32:30
physically stressed, or spiritually stressed. Okay?
32:32
Each part of you, we as
32:34
humans, are made of a mind,
32:37
heart, body, and soul. Okay? And
32:39
each of them gets stressed differently
32:41
and speaks to you in a
32:44
different language. And if you don't
32:46
respond to it, it stresses you
32:48
back differently. Okay? So let's go
32:51
through them quickly and then open
32:53
for questions. Mind, heart, body and
32:55
soul. Your mind, when you're mentally
32:58
stressed, that's the time when you
33:00
wake up at 4am in the
33:02
morning with rushing thoughts. When you're
33:05
unable to stop thinking about something,
33:07
when you keep trying to solve
33:09
over and over and over, it's
33:12
all happening up here. Okay? Mental
33:14
stress happens for once in a
33:16
reason that I know Tony teaches
33:19
you all the time, so please
33:21
remember it. Okay? I'll say it
33:23
in a more blunt way if
33:26
you want. Your brain has never
33:28
ever ever ever once in your
33:30
life told you the truth. Ever.
33:33
Okay? It tells you what it
33:35
thinks is the truth. Okay? Informed
33:37
by all of its scripts and
33:40
all of its memories and all
33:42
of its assumptions and all of
33:44
the blind spots that it doesn't
33:47
see, it just tells you the
33:49
negative side of the truth more
33:51
often than the positive. Okay? Mental
33:54
stress is all about how to
33:56
remember that the fact that the
33:58
stress is not the fact. The
34:01
way you look at it is
34:03
the fact. And when you really
34:05
think about that, and you leave
34:08
your mental stress, if you don't
34:10
attend to your mind when your
34:12
mind is spinning, what happens is
34:15
that in itself stresses you more,
34:17
so your mind spins more. So
34:19
one very simple view of. of
34:22
mental stress is what we call
34:24
the happiness flow chart, to ask
34:26
yourself if what you're thinking about
34:29
is true, if you can do
34:31
something to fix it, or if
34:33
you can accept it and do
34:36
something to make your life better,
34:38
despite its presence. Emotional stress, once
34:40
again, we feel emotions, we're told
34:43
in the modern world of success
34:45
not to show those emotions, and
34:47
so what happens is we bottle
34:50
them in. Right? Emotions, when they're
34:52
bottled in, they don't go away.
34:54
Did you realize that? Okay? When
34:57
they're bottled in, they shout louder.
34:59
Okay? And then when they shout
35:01
louder, you get more emotional and
35:04
then you shout louder and so
35:06
on. And then one day they
35:08
explode sooner or later. So the
35:11
answer to your emotional stress in
35:13
a one line is, acknowledge your
35:15
emotion and find out what it's
35:18
trying to tell you. If an
35:20
emotion is telling you I am
35:22
worried about my future, that's a
35:25
very good message. Like let's sit
35:27
down and understand why. And if
35:29
there is something that can be
35:32
done about it, we do it.
35:34
If there isn't, then at least
35:36
we acknowledge it and we allow
35:39
ourselves to feel it, because we
35:41
all feel we're only alive when
35:43
we feel. Your body... I think
35:46
that's very clear. Okay? Your body
35:48
is supposed to be your instrument
35:50
that gets reconfigured when you have
35:53
cortis also that you can run
35:55
through the world and achieve. Okay?
35:57
That same body when you stress
36:00
it, it communicates back to you
36:02
in aches and pains. Okay? How
36:04
many of you have aches and
36:07
pains, if you don't mind? Yes.
36:09
And how many of you, like
36:11
I did for... So many years
36:14
told yourself it's normal, I'm traveling
36:16
too much, right? It's not normal
36:18
at all. I will absolutely tell
36:21
you in the last three years.
36:23
So Alice and I wrote different
36:25
chapters and we edited each other's
36:28
work. Alice wrote Physical Stress. I
36:30
read the chapter and I texted
36:32
her as I was editing. I
36:35
said, Alice, are you mocking me?
36:37
Like, are you writing about me?
36:39
Because every single symptom, every single
36:42
behavior was within me. Right? And
36:44
she said, yeah, I've been trying
36:46
to tell you. And I changed
36:49
my habits. And I promise you,
36:51
I'm a different human being. So
36:53
bodies speak in aches and pains.
36:56
When you feel aches and pains,
36:58
stop or the body will kill
37:00
you. And then finally, spiritual stress,
37:03
and then we open for questions.
37:05
Spiritual stress is an acknowledgement, whether
37:07
you're spiritual or religious or not,
37:10
that you're not just made of
37:12
your body. There is a non-physical
37:14
side to you. Call that your
37:17
consciousness, call it your spirit if
37:19
you're religious, call it your purpose
37:21
if you're driven. Whatever that non-physical
37:24
side of you is, it's communicating
37:26
to you through your intuition. It
37:28
gets you the things that your
37:31
mind doesn't sense, doesn't comprehend that
37:33
your emotions might not sense, that
37:35
your body is not even living
37:38
within. And when you're disconnecting from
37:40
that non-physical side of you, it
37:42
gets very stressed. And when it
37:45
gets very stressed, it stresses you
37:47
in terms of really making you
37:49
feel empty. emptiness is the sign
37:52
of spiritual stress. I'm not sure
37:54
where the gentleman that spoke about
37:56
his family becoming wealthier and feeling
37:59
more unhappy. That part of that
38:01
is that this connection, I mean
38:03
there could be many other reasons,
38:06
but it's very common that you
38:08
know our purpose in life is
38:10
not to be. become rich. Becoming
38:13
rich is the method to realize
38:15
our purpose in life. And so
38:17
accordingly, you start to get very,
38:20
very stressed and sometimes unhappy because
38:22
as a result of that disconnection
38:24
between you and the real you
38:27
if you want the non-spiritual side
38:29
of you. I can speak about
38:31
this for a very long time,
38:34
but I think we have enough.
38:36
3434, that's 614, so yeah, we
38:38
spoke quite a lot, so maybe
38:41
questions, yes? Thank you, thank you
38:43
for all your information. About a
38:45
week and a half ago, my
38:48
home was hit with a couple
38:50
of hurricanes and I lost everything.
38:53
My the momenta is
38:56
that you can never
38:58
get back My reaction
39:00
was I was in
39:02
a Days I Would
39:05
stand in front of
39:07
I would I would
39:09
I would I couldn't
39:12
find my clothes to
39:14
put on even though
39:16
they were right in
39:18
front of my shoes
39:21
I had trouble walking
39:23
on the sidewalk. I
39:25
might fall out, I
39:28
kept trying to fall
39:30
off of it. I
39:32
just wasn't really functioning,
39:34
but yet I could,
39:37
I could call power
39:39
companies and I could,
39:41
I could do all
39:44
those things. Since then,
39:46
things have gotten a
39:48
lot better. The days
39:50
is still sort of
39:53
there. I never was
39:55
to the point where
39:57
I just wanted to...
40:00
sob. I just don't
40:02
know how to get
40:04
rid of the days.
40:07
By sobbing? By
40:09
sobbing? By sobbing?
40:11
By sobbing? Oh. No,
40:14
I first of all I
40:16
know how you
40:18
feel. I'm really
40:20
sorry that you
40:22
went through this.
40:25
Loss comes in
40:27
so many different
40:29
ways. loss is not
40:31
just the loss of love,
40:33
I loved one, it's the
40:35
loss of something I'm
40:38
attached to. And trust
40:40
with life is lost
40:42
when life so
40:45
unexpectedly out of
40:47
the blue shows up and
40:49
takes something away. I think
40:52
the reason why the loss
40:54
of a loved one is
40:56
so... painful is because of
40:59
its finality. It's because we
41:01
haven't succeeded in bringing anyone
41:03
back yet. So we suddenly,
41:05
you suddenly go like, that's
41:07
it? So I can't solve
41:09
that problem, I cannot bring
41:11
them back. I will have
41:13
to say though, if I may, you
41:16
have not lost everything. No,
41:18
I have my health and my
41:20
family's health. So no one was
41:22
hurt, which I am so grateful
41:24
and thankful for. And... And
41:27
I know that they're just
41:29
things, but they were my
41:31
child's baby pictures and
41:33
everything that he ever
41:36
made for me and... Yeah, so
41:38
this is going to hurt for
41:40
a very long time.
41:42
May even hurt forever.
41:44
Okay? And that's okay,
41:46
by the way. That's
41:48
absolutely okay. The thing
41:50
that really is very
41:52
unusual about us, is that
41:54
we can... We can choose to
41:57
focus on the pain of
41:59
it. what was lost, but
42:01
not the joy of it,
42:04
what was given. So the
42:06
fact that your child made
42:08
those pictures for you is
42:10
what you're celebrating with that
42:12
picture, okay? So I'll give
42:15
you my own personal example.
42:17
I lost my son when
42:19
he was 21, okay? And
42:21
Ali was everything. I mean,
42:24
he was, to me. Everything.
42:26
And I have the ability
42:28
to observe how my brain
42:30
treats me. And every morning,
42:33
for months on end, I
42:35
would wake up and my
42:37
brain would say Ali died.
42:39
Okay? Ali died is true.
42:42
I can't argue that with
42:44
my brain. Ali is gone.
42:46
It's final. It's not coming
42:48
back. No more hugs, ever,
42:51
by the way. We're not
42:53
going to meet in our
42:55
physical form ever again. But
42:57
think about that. A few
42:59
months in, and by the
43:02
way, it's absolutely the best
43:04
thing you can do to
43:06
grief. Absolutely. Go ahead and
43:08
grief, whatever you lose, because
43:11
emotions, if not expressed, will
43:13
be bottled in, and they
43:15
will either eat us from
43:17
inside or explode eventually. But
43:20
think about this, a few
43:22
months in. When my brain,
43:24
I woke up and my
43:26
brain said Ali died, I
43:29
said, yes, brain, but Ali
43:31
also lived. Ali lived. Ali
43:33
lived. Ali lived is the
43:35
same fabric of the thought.
43:38
It's the same canvas. But
43:40
it's a very different. feeling
43:42
because Ali lived is all
43:44
the jokes we joked, all
43:46
the hugs, all the conversations,
43:49
all the video games, we
43:51
played together, the music, we
43:53
played together. It's the reminder
43:55
that, by the way, we
43:58
never planned for Ali. He
44:00
never did. He was making
44:02
love to my wife. And
44:04
Ali showed up. And oh
44:07
my God, what a freaking
44:09
miracle that boy was. Completely
44:11
didn't deserve it. Completely didn't
44:13
ask for it. As a
44:16
matter of fact, had she
44:18
asked me if we were
44:20
ready to have a baby,
44:22
I would have said no.
44:25
And yet, when he leaves,
44:27
we focus on he left.
44:30
The reality is what
44:32
life actually was doing
44:34
is he came. And
44:36
if you focus your
44:38
life not on the
44:41
fact that those things
44:43
were lost, but those
44:45
things were given to
44:47
start, I think you'd
44:49
see the world very
44:51
differently. I'm
45:02
O, Kent from Los
45:04
Angeles, thank you so
45:06
much. So I really
45:08
resonated with what you
45:10
said. Lost five family
45:12
members and friends in
45:15
the last 60 days.
45:17
Oh my God. So
45:19
my question is, since
45:21
you classify that as
45:23
trauma, and people go
45:25
on to experience post-traumatic
45:28
growth. How do I
45:30
go on to enjoy
45:32
that post-traumatic growth? You
45:34
don't. You don't ever
45:36
make that your objective.
45:38
So... There is a
45:41
logical view of life
45:43
that. view of life
45:45
is that we come
45:47
here, we meet here,
45:49
and it ends here.
45:51
I don't believe that
45:53
to be true. And
45:56
I don't believe that
45:58
to be true, not
46:00
because of my religious
46:02
background, not because of
46:04
my spiritual teaching, but
46:06
because of my very
46:09
deep understanding of quantum
46:11
physics and theory of
46:13
relativity. Let's just simply
46:15
understand that all of
46:17
science tells us that
46:19
the world we live
46:22
in is the big
46:24
bank, followed by expansion,
46:26
followed by Earth, followed
46:28
by life, followed by
46:30
me, and my son
46:32
Ali. Followed by is
46:34
a property of time.
46:37
Okay? But Einstein tells
46:39
us that time doesn't
46:41
exist. that all of
46:43
space and all of
46:45
time has already happened.
46:47
That if you have
46:50
a different vantage point
46:52
of this space-time continuum,
46:54
you could slice it
46:56
differently and see different
46:58
slices of time. True.
47:00
Right? You could look
47:03
at a slice of
47:05
time where my mom
47:07
died, my son died,
47:09
and my son was
47:11
born are at the
47:13
same slice. Complex physics,
47:16
but it's actually very
47:18
true. That means that
47:20
our perception of space
47:22
and time is the
47:24
perception of an observer.
47:26
That your physical avatar
47:28
lives within the space-time
47:31
continuum, but the real
47:33
you lives outside the
47:35
space-time continuum. Okay? The
47:37
real you and the
47:39
real essence of every
47:41
one of the five
47:44
family members. that I
47:46
will not say died,
47:48
but I will say
47:50
left their physical forms
47:52
behind. Right? Quantum physics
47:54
will tell us that
47:57
nothing exists until it's
47:59
absorbed. observed by life?
48:01
Do we know? We all agree
48:03
that? We know that. Experiments
48:06
prove that. And yet physics
48:08
will tell us, cosmology will
48:10
tell us, it was the Big
48:12
Bang theory, a small mass that
48:14
exploded. And over 13.7
48:17
billion years we came here. Life
48:19
is 3 million of those years.
48:22
How can that be? Who observed
48:24
all of that for it to exist?
48:26
Okay? Who observed the
48:29
mass? who observed the
48:31
dust, who observed the
48:33
earth forming, okay, who
48:35
observed all of this,
48:37
life always existed.
48:40
Okay? Life is not
48:42
the opposite of death. Okay?
48:44
Life is the opposite of
48:47
birth. Sorry, death is
48:49
the opposite of birth. Death
48:51
is the opposite of
48:54
birth. Life happens before,
48:56
during and after.
48:59
physical video game, if
49:01
you want, through a portal
49:03
called Birth. We play the
49:05
game, then we leave the
49:07
game through a portal called
49:09
Death. And we are alive before
49:12
it, we are alive during
49:14
it, we are alive after
49:16
it. And if you grief the
49:18
loss of the physical forms
49:21
of those that you love, There's
49:24
nothing you can do to take
49:26
that away. I'm really sorry to
49:28
tell you this. Ali left
49:31
11 years ago. It turns
49:33
my heart apart. When Tony
49:35
played the video at the
49:37
beginning and I saw
49:40
Ali, I teared up. It
49:42
doesn't go away. It never goes
49:44
away. Okay? What is certain,
49:46
however, is that you will be
49:49
where they are sooner or later.
49:51
Okay? That you too will leave
49:53
the avatar behind. Okay? And that
49:55
you too, when you leave the avatar
49:58
behind, will look back at this. and
50:00
say, oh my God, that
50:02
was fun. Okay? Believe it
50:04
or not, 99.3% of those
50:06
who had near-death experiences went
50:08
to the other side and
50:10
said, oh my God, this
50:12
is so cool. This is
50:14
wonderful, right? I had a
50:16
near-death experience myself, okay? And
50:18
I will tell you, I
50:20
was so angry at the
50:22
person that brought me back.
50:24
Okay? I will tell you
50:27
hands down, they are not
50:29
struggling. They're not. We are.
50:31
We are. Okay? We are
50:33
struggling because of losing them.
50:35
And if you ask me,
50:37
there are ways where you
50:39
can live, you can make
50:41
them live. And those ways
50:43
are to actually take their
50:45
essence and make that essence
50:47
continue. Take their stories, take
50:49
the times you lived with
50:51
them. It won't bring them
50:53
back. Okay, so the other
50:55
side of what I was
50:57
talking about Ali died and
50:59
Ali lived I call that
51:01
a joyful thought Okay, the
51:03
other way to think about
51:05
an event like this is
51:07
a useful thought a useful
51:10
thought is what can I
51:12
do with this that makes
51:14
it slightly better? Losing something
51:16
like your home or your
51:18
loved ones is Unfortunately of
51:20
happiness. Okay? And the answer
51:22
to that Jedi Master level
51:24
is what I normally refer
51:26
to as committed acceptance. Okay.
51:28
And committed acceptance is when
51:30
life hits you with something
51:32
you cannot change, by the
51:34
way sooner or later you're
51:36
going to have to accept
51:38
it. Yes. Sooner or later
51:40
you're going to sit down
51:42
one day and say Ali's
51:44
not coming back, right? The
51:46
Jedi Masters of happiness will
51:48
say... If I know that
51:51
I will never be able
51:53
to change it, I might...
51:55
as well accept it right
51:57
now. Okay? But I don't
51:59
want to be here. Last
52:01
hug, I promise you, Ali
52:03
was taller than me, he
52:05
was white-shouldered, he was so
52:07
freaking wise, right? And I
52:09
hugged him before he went
52:11
into the surgery room and
52:13
I will tell you, hands
52:15
down, that was the highlight
52:17
of my life. Top point.
52:19
Okay? Four hours later, we
52:21
lose him, I'm here. Right?
52:23
Yes. There needs to be
52:25
acceptance. And acceptance is, can't
52:27
have him back. can't bring
52:29
my mom back. Done. But
52:31
I don't want to stay
52:34
here. Right. Okay? What I
52:36
want is I've accepted this,
52:38
but I don't want it
52:40
to be my baseline. Right.
52:42
So after acceptance, you need
52:44
to commit. Very simple commitment.
52:46
To do one thing every
52:48
day that makes today a
52:50
little better than yesterday. And
52:52
tomorrow, you know, a little
52:54
better than today. And after
52:56
tomorrow, a little better than
52:58
tomorrow. Tiny. Like, tiny thing.
53:00
But do it every day.
53:02
And most of those things,
53:04
by the way, is to
53:06
make their memory live, their
53:08
essence, their beauty. To forgive
53:10
everything that went wrong. To
53:12
remember everything that went right.
53:14
To talk about them lovingly.
53:17
To sit, I know this
53:19
sounds horrible when I say
53:21
it, but please think about
53:23
it. To sit in gratitude
53:25
that they came. To sit
53:27
in gratitude that they hugged.
53:29
Don't know what to tell
53:31
you I I there is
53:33
no answer to what you're
53:35
going through but It is
53:37
how the design of life
53:39
is you know what you
53:41
said helps and the You
53:43
know putting my dad in
53:45
the ground This is the
53:47
hardest fucking thing I've ever
53:49
had to do in my
53:51
life. I know climb mountains.
53:53
I've started companies. I've written
53:55
books you know I've done
53:57
went through a seven-year divorce
54:00
you know That was the
54:02
hardest thing and putting my
54:04
dad in the ground, I
54:06
didn't want to do it.
54:08
And the only thing that
54:10
got me through it was
54:12
just finding the piece. I
54:14
somehow found the piece in
54:16
myself and I just was
54:18
able to just to do
54:20
it. So I was able
54:22
to go overcome that and
54:24
now maybe that's a path
54:26
for me. And so I
54:28
connect that with the gratitude
54:30
that you said and the
54:32
incremental happiness that you mentioned
54:34
every day, something more. a
54:36
tiny bit more, but also
54:38
a tiny bit that makes
54:40
him happy, that you're doing
54:43
what you're doing in life.
54:45
I don't know what to
54:47
tell you. Any easier questions?
54:49
Can I just, we'll take
54:51
more questions, but can I
54:53
just highlight one thing? Nobody's
54:55
without pain. Look at the
54:57
person next to you. They're
54:59
in pain. which is a
55:01
horrible thing to say from
55:03
one side, but it also
55:05
makes you know that you're
55:07
not alone. Nobody's without pain.
55:09
Okay? From one side, it
55:11
makes you feel you're not
55:13
alone, and from the other
55:15
side, believe it or not,
55:17
it makes you want to
55:19
hug everyone. I mean
55:22
it in every possible way.
55:24
Next time I married the
55:26
love of my life a
55:28
year ago. Okay? And yeah.
55:31
Actually, actually, she said yes
55:33
exactly yesterday. So the thing
55:35
is this. Okay? Through it,
55:37
we went through some interesting
55:40
times. And through the interesting
55:42
times, I wondered in my
55:44
head if she doesn't like
55:46
me that much anymore. Okay,
55:49
and she wondered if I
55:51
didn't like her that much
55:53
anymore Okay, but the truth
55:55
is She was in pain.
55:58
I was in pain Do
56:00
you understand? And once
56:02
we spoke about it, like
56:04
Robert was saying, once we
56:07
spoke about it, once we sat
56:09
down and we said, oh this
56:11
is not about you. I love
56:14
you. This is not about me.
56:16
She loves me. This is about
56:18
what we're going through,
56:20
everything changes. Nobody comes
56:22
to work in the morning
56:25
to annoy everyone. Something going
56:27
on. Right? Yeah, okay
56:29
one more Well, first of all
56:31
God bless you. Thank you so
56:33
much is the copper statements
56:35
spoke deeply to my heart
56:37
I have two questions for
56:39
you two things that I'm
56:41
dealing with Question number one
56:44
attending all this many events
56:46
and I believe in prayer
56:48
prayer every morning. I'm an
56:50
absolutely amazing alignment but I
56:52
come from the country where
56:54
my family is still in
56:56
a communist country. And when
56:58
we talk, it becomes very
57:00
heavy. Especially when I deal,
57:02
try to deal with my brother.
57:04
He's very strong alpha men, seven
57:06
feet. And he's energy over the
57:09
phone. Sometimes it just turns me
57:11
up. It's just so... I don't
57:13
know how to deal with. It
57:15
puts me in very sad state
57:18
and even before I call him.
57:20
I say the incantation, I say
57:22
a prayer, I try to get
57:24
myself in a positive state, create
57:26
the aura around me, but still,
57:29
I don't know how better to
57:31
deal with. Every time he picked
57:33
up the phone, or if
57:35
he calls me, I know
57:37
it's gonna be an avalanche
57:39
of negativity, and it hurts.
57:41
I don't, like, this is
57:43
one question. And a second
57:46
question, in the past
57:48
14 years. In
57:51
the past 14 years, I had
57:53
a dog. I know to somebody,
57:55
it sounds funny, but it was
57:57
pitable and a pet. They're huge
57:59
big boys. he was the
58:01
most loving and protective. He
58:03
passed this year in May.
58:05
I actually had to put
58:08
him down. It was the
58:10
most difficult thing I had
58:12
to deal with. It's the
58:14
love and connection we shared
58:17
was so deep that at
58:19
this point I think I'm
58:21
searching for. I don't know
58:23
where it is. So two
58:26
things. Didn't we say easy
58:28
questions? So I
58:30
wrote, I told you, I
58:32
wrote about love. I wrote,
58:34
I didn't tell you, I
58:36
told you, I wrote about
58:39
the empowerment of the feminine,
58:41
I also wrote about love,
58:43
just speak for the fun
58:45
of it. And I actually
58:47
don't believe love is of
58:49
this world. Love is not
58:51
a physical thing. So if
58:53
anyone doesn't understand how you
58:55
could love a dog or
58:57
a dog could love you
58:59
back, I don't think they
59:02
really understand love. Right? Love
59:04
is not between the physical
59:06
beings, love is between the
59:08
souls manifested in the physical.
59:10
So it's two souls longing
59:12
for each other. Yes. But
59:14
we're not, if you, I
59:16
don't know how to explain
59:18
this without going into a
59:20
bit of spirituality, but please.
59:22
If you, if you, if
59:25
you, if you understand the
59:27
soul journey. You're not supposed
59:29
to be with one soul
59:31
in this life. You're supposed
59:33
to have a journey that
59:35
goes through multiple souls to
59:37
complete you, to enrich you,
59:39
to show you, to reflect
59:41
for you. So I write
59:43
about, when I wrote about
59:45
this in terms of love
59:48
and romance, I usually, when
59:50
someone comes to me crying
59:52
and saying I broke up,
59:54
I say congratulations. That's amazing.
59:56
Right? Because in a very
59:58
interesting way that means it
1:00:00
wasn't working and more interesting.
1:00:02
it means your journey now
1:00:04
begins. Right? Now moving to
1:00:06
love again doesn't mean you
1:00:08
stop loving before. It just
1:00:11
means that this incredible human
1:00:13
need of our souls connecting
1:00:15
should not be blocked because
1:00:17
it connected before. You know
1:00:19
the interesting thing, I understand
1:00:21
this intellectually. But emotionally a
1:00:23
part of me is just
1:00:25
missing. Go to the third
1:00:27
pet shop on the left
1:00:29
from your home. I promise
1:00:32
you, I promise you there
1:00:34
will be someone waiting for
1:00:36
you there. Third on the
1:00:38
left. Okay? Now about your
1:00:40
brother, seven foot, is he
1:00:42
ever going to listen to
1:00:44
this? Because I can't answer
1:00:46
if he does. I get
1:00:48
very scared of seven feet
1:00:50
people. Look, everyone is on
1:00:52
their own journey. Family is
1:00:55
one of the biggest tests
1:00:57
in life. Because we think
1:00:59
that because they're family, they're
1:01:01
supposed to be like us.
1:01:03
Of course they're not. As
1:01:05
a matter of fact, I
1:01:07
think in the design of
1:01:09
the video game, family was
1:01:11
there as an obstacle. It's
1:01:13
like you have to overcome
1:01:15
that thing called family. Now,
1:01:18
the thing, however, is you
1:01:20
remind me of a very
1:01:22
dear friend of mine who
1:01:24
texted me, she's tiny, texted
1:01:26
me one day and said,
1:01:28
I was backing up with
1:01:30
my car and there was
1:01:32
a seven-foot something person behind
1:01:34
me, okay? And so I
1:01:36
almost hit him, but I
1:01:38
stopped. She lives in Lithuania,
1:01:41
okay? And so I came
1:01:43
out of the car to
1:01:45
apologize to him, and he
1:01:47
looked down at me and
1:01:49
shouted in anger for almost
1:01:51
five minutes. Okay? And I
1:01:53
said, oh my God, and
1:01:55
what did you do? And
1:01:57
she said, and then he...
1:01:59
took a breath and I
1:02:01
hugged him, okay? And I said,
1:02:04
please don't shout, okay? And
1:02:06
he cried, okay? And that
1:02:08
story, I wish I can show
1:02:11
you her picture, she's
1:02:13
literally this tall, okay?
1:02:15
And he's seven feet
1:02:17
and she probably hugged
1:02:19
his thigh or something,
1:02:21
right? But she basically,
1:02:23
completely, again, when someone
1:02:26
is shouting, they are in pain.
1:02:29
Okay, and if you can see through
1:02:31
that, you can't fix it. Don't
1:02:33
ever make it your responsibility. Okay,
1:02:35
but just within your heart have
1:02:37
the compassion that he's feeling some
1:02:40
kind of pain. How can I not
1:02:42
overcome what kind of statements, questions,
1:02:44
what can I do in those
1:02:46
moments? Because when it starts... You
1:02:49
want my honest advice? Please. Okay,
1:02:51
I follow a very interesting technique
1:02:53
I call cliches. Okay?
1:02:55
And cliches are, when I
1:02:57
have a difficult relationship with
1:03:00
someone, I remember 10 good
1:03:02
moments we had together. Okay?
1:03:04
And I constantly bring them
1:03:07
up in different linguistic skills that
1:03:09
basically all go back to,
1:03:11
I like you, I love you, I miss
1:03:13
you, I had a wonderful time
1:03:15
with you. Love breaks everyone.
1:03:18
Okay? Sooner or later, he's
1:03:20
gonna look at himself and go
1:03:22
like, why am I doing this?
1:03:24
Okay? By the way, when
1:03:26
he's shouting at you, he's
1:03:28
not shouting at you. He's
1:03:30
shouting at himself, at his life,
1:03:32
at his world. Okay, we have
1:03:34
zero minutes. I don't know when
1:03:37
I'm supposed to go off the
1:03:39
stage, but there was another mic.
1:03:41
Yes. Kick me off the stage
1:03:43
when it's time, okay? Oh,
1:03:45
one more question. Yes. Thank you.
1:03:48
Hi, Mo. Thank you for
1:03:50
doing what you're doing, appreciate
1:03:52
it. My question. is about
1:03:54
loss that is not finite.
1:03:56
I had to mourn my
1:03:58
relationship with my father. sister, it
1:04:00
made me a better version of
1:04:02
myself. We're not going to get
1:04:05
into details, but there's guilt associated
1:04:07
to that. And I'm not exactly
1:04:09
sure what my question is, but
1:04:11
it's around there. Guilt is the,
1:04:14
can I say that with love,
1:04:16
please don't get me wrong. Guilt
1:04:18
is the most stupid emotion we
1:04:20
have. That makes me feel better
1:04:23
actually. Yeah, let me explain why
1:04:25
I say this. Because had you,
1:04:27
if I gave you the same
1:04:29
you that you were when you
1:04:32
did certain things, with the same
1:04:34
information you had then, with the
1:04:36
same circumstances you were put in
1:04:38
then, you would behave exactly the
1:04:41
same way. Okay? It's a very
1:04:43
interesting way when you look at
1:04:45
it algorithmically, that you feel guilt
1:04:47
now because you're different now. But
1:04:50
what you did then, you can't
1:04:52
be blamed for at all. As
1:04:54
a matter of fact, with the
1:04:56
resources you had then, with the
1:04:59
knowledge you had then, with the
1:05:01
situation you've been put in then,
1:05:03
that was the absolute rational thing
1:05:05
to do. So as a matter
1:05:08
of fact, when I feel guilt,
1:05:10
I celebrate my progress. I suddenly
1:05:12
realize I'm interesting. That means I
1:05:14
am a more aware person now.
1:05:17
That means I am a better
1:05:19
person now. That means at least
1:05:21
I recognize I'm able to tell
1:05:23
myself, because a lot of people
1:05:26
don't have that. I'm able to
1:05:28
tell myself that I did something
1:05:30
wrong in the past. Now, if
1:05:32
you feel the guilt and you
1:05:34
can correct it, correct it for
1:05:37
them. If you cannot, correct it
1:05:39
for you, for your heart, and
1:05:41
you correct it for your heart
1:05:43
by saying to yourself over and
1:05:46
over and over and over, I
1:05:48
wish I could do different, but
1:05:50
I did the best I can.
1:05:52
Okay? What can I do now
1:05:55
to make everything? better either for
1:05:57
me for them for them for
1:05:59
those that they love for their
1:06:01
memory for whatever okay but don't
1:06:04
ever get that's I think that's
1:06:06
a general statement when you feel
1:06:08
guilty what what does that mean
1:06:10
like I didn't know better then
1:06:13
is loving them from a far
1:06:15
that's what I've been telling are
1:06:17
they are they still with you
1:06:19
yes they are so this is
1:06:22
what it's not a finite loss
1:06:24
yeah Is loving them from afar
1:06:26
in my mind is better for
1:06:28
everyone? We're all happier for it.
1:06:31
Yes, if that's what you can
1:06:33
do right now. Right now. But
1:06:35
do it good. Like really love
1:06:37
them. Like totally forgive them. Like
1:06:40
honestly, genuinely in your heart. Okay?
1:06:42
Find what you like about them
1:06:44
and make that the center of
1:06:46
your relationship with them. And if
1:06:49
you do that enough, I think
1:06:51
eventually you'll send them a text
1:06:53
message. Okay? Thank you. Let's
1:06:56
give it from Mo
1:06:58
everybody. No, let them
1:07:00
hear you, it's Mo!
1:07:03
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1:07:05
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1:07:07
by Tony Robbins and
1:07:09
his teachings. It's produced
1:07:12
by us, Team Tony.
1:07:14
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